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Home My WebLink AboutRR-16 Twana Way Road ImprovementsFrom: rrathvon@gmail.com <rrathvon@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2023 8:14 AM To: MicOliver@mac.com; 'John DiMaggio' <dimaggiojohn17@gmail.com>; shawnbennett@yahoo.com; bglomset@comcast.net; 'Nils Glomset' <nglomset@gmail.com>; 'Dee Dee Hawley' <deedeehawley@yahoo.com>; adleorocks@yahoo.com; Paul@kooimanphoto.com; starphanie@gmail.com; 'Marilyn Walker' <ptatermwwalker@gmail.com>; 'Scott Serna' <mogul33@msn.com>; karlvonbargen@yahoo.com; 'Sam Hawley' <shawley11@juno.com> Subject: Twana Way Neighbors, Attached for your information is the document relating to possible improvements for Twana Way that we walked through a several Sundays ago at Marilyn’s home. As an overview, this document describes 2 examples that illustrate the range of possible road repairs and improvements, which are referred to as the Higher Cost Option and the Lower Cost Option. Each of these examples are based on proposals from two experienced road builders: Shold Excavating and Stewart Excavating, respectively. The scope and cost vary significantly, which is largely attributable to the amount of sculpting, grading, compacting and tonnage of rock/gravel. The proposed work in each example would occur on the easement over those properties that comprise what is known as the “Dabob View Tracts”. No work is proposed on that portion of Twana Way that crosses over the Rathvon or Hawley properties. The Lower Cost Option represents what Stewart Excavating suggested as the work needed to provide reasonable access for service and emergency vehicles. This example does not involve: (i) removing trees; (ii) “slicing” corners to lessen a turn radius; or (iii) laying stone/gravel for the entire road. In addition, this Option does not include additional work for the first corner (which I have referred to as the “Oliver corner”) that would likely be required if the rock border on the outside portion of that corner is not moved more to the outside. Mark Stewart (Stewart Excavating) has walked the road on three separate occasions. In addition to myself, Karl Von Bargen, Nils Glomset and Paul Kooiman participated in one or more of these walks. I encourage you to reach out to get each of their perspectives of Stewart’s recommendations. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Rich CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16 Twana Way Road Improvements October 2023 CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16 Agenda 1.Overview 2.Considerations for improving Twana Way •Emergency •Service vehicles •Longer term benefits 3.Scope and cost •3(a) Lower cost option example •3(b) Higher cost option example 4.Apportionment –factors for consideration 5.Summary, questions and discussion 2 CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16 1. Overview •Twana Way has served Twana community for ~50 years (along with Toandoes Road) •Twana Way serves 10* private parcels and 5** DNR tracts •Twana Way consists of a 60’ recorded easement over 8 of these parcels (5 private and 3 DNR tracts) •Much of the road surface is about ~8’ to 9’ wide (as compared to Toandoes of ~9’ to 11’ wide); but there are several spots that are more narrow (~7’ to 7-1/2’) [note: approx. dimensions] •See Map on following page •Twana Way community has seen changes over the years •8 homes have been built along Twana Way between late 1970’s through ~2015 (3 during the 1970’s, 3 during the 1990’s and 2 since 2005) •There are now 2 full time residents •Permitting is in process for the expansion of an existing home and for the construction of a new home •Electronic gate was added at top of Toandoes for security to manage road access •Various issues with Twana Way, past and present •Normal wear and tear •Steepness requires water diversion, which is currently managed by water bars (the “berms” or “speed bumps”) and, in some cases, shallow trenches in front of the berms •Erosion occurs annually, usually caused by rain and road use •Repairs to date have mostly been done by individuals (especially Nils Glomset), which consists of building up the berms along with digging out the shallow trenches, filling in holes and/or adding gravel, etc.3 CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16 McGregor, Kooiman Bennett Walker Oliver TrustVon Bargen DNR DNR DNR DNR Serna DNR DNR Grady DNR DNR Twana Way Parcel ownership and easement DNR Rathvon Dabob Hideaway Glomset Dabob Paradise 4 CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16 2. Considerations for improving Twana Way •Emergency vehicles (fire and health care) •Official guidelines of Quilcene Fire District #2 •20’ minimum width clearance, with 12’ minimum “all weather” road surface and 4’ shoulder/sloped landscaped sides •6” minimum ballast or gravel base with minimum 2” compacted crushed surface material •Compacted to a load capacity of 75,000 pounds •2% crowned slope at centerline •Other guidelines provided relating to slope gradients, turn outs, and brush height for visibility •According to QFD #2, minutes count in a fire or health care emergency •Service vehicles •Propane delivery – no longer providing service •Other service vehicles (e.g., appliance delivery or maintenance) generally refuse to traverse Twana Way •Benefits •Provide safer and more easily traveled surface •Provide access for service and emergency vehicles •Depending on the scope of improvements, periodic road maintenance may be reduced •A more formalized road improvement and maintenance plan could be an enhancement to property values 5 CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16 3. Scope and cost •Range of possible scope and cost depends on extent of improvements and desired result •To manage drainage: water bars/diverters, ditches and/or culverts •To repair erosion: •For inward slanting road surface, especially around corners that typically slants inward towards the upside bank: build-up lower portion of road surface with compacted rock/gravel, and/or widen the outside edge •For the “wagon wheel” tracks and center hump: grade and/or fill in with compacted rock/gravel •To lessen the sharpness of some of the turns: cut the inside corner and/or widen the outside of the turn •To widen selected areas that are narrow, or have become more narrow (usually caused by encroachment of trees and/or sluffing of the upside bank): widen outside edge of road, contour bank and/or remove trees •To provide a more even and durable surface: scope and cost varies by grading, scaping, contouring, number of layers of type of stone and/or gravel, amount (tonnage) of each stone and/or gravel, and level of effort to compact the surface Note: widening of the road as a general matter was not considered •Cost range: •Ranges between $25,000 / $30,000 (Lower Cost Option) and $60,000 or more (Higher Cost Option) •Difference is attributable to different work scope and extent of specified improvements •Each Option is only an example based on scope specified; scope can be modified, which will change the cost •All proposed improvements are within the recorded easement •Other considerations •DNR participation •Utility / electric line and easement •Impact of anticipate construction on road conditions •Timing of improvements (relative to season and/or anticipated construction)6 CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16 3(a). Lower Cost Option example •Fixing most of corners without shaving the bank on the inside of the turns (with one possible exception) •Widening the outside of most turns; possibly shaving the inside of 1 of the turns •Leveling the inside dip of road surface for most corners by filling and compacting with stone •Removing the “wagon wheel” tracks by scraping center and/or filling in the ruts with compacted stone •Widening a couple of very narrow spots by clearing the outside edge •Keeping and adding water bars/accompanying “ditches” for drainage and erosion control •Finish much of the road surface with compacted gravel (up to 300 Tons) •See map Note: (i) widening of the road as a general matter was not considered; (ii) no culverts are proposed; and (iii) tree removal is not included 7 CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16 Walker Oliver TrustVon Bargen DNR DNR DNR DNR Serna DNR DNR Grady DNR DNR Twana Way improvements Lower Cost Option example DNR Corners where the outside portion would be widened Trees and/or stumps that may impede road width Corners that dip to the inside requiring a road surface solution Corners where the inside portion may need to be widened Rathvon Glomset Bennett Dabob Hideaway Dabob Paradise McGregor, Kooiman 8 CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16 3(b). Higher Cost Option example •Fixing most of corners, and “straightening out” some of the corners •Widening the outside of the turns, and shaving the inside of 3 or 4 turns •Leveling the inside dip in road by filling with compacted stone •Removing or grinding down 3 to 4 trees or trunks •Removing the “wagon wheel” tracks by scraping center and/or filling in the rut with compacted stone •Widening several narrow spots generally by clearing the outside edge •Contouring and sculpting the outside and inside edges of the roadway where feasible, thus making the road feel wider •Providing turnouts in logical spots along the road •Keeping and adding water bars/accompanying “ditches” for drainage and erosion control •Finish most of the road surface with significant quantities of rock and gravel [850 Tons] •See map Note: (i) widening of the road as a general matter was not considered; and (ii) no culverts are proposed 9 CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16 Walker Oliver TrustVon Bargen DNR DNR DNR DNR Serna DNR DNR Grady DNR DNR Twana Way improvements Higher Cost Option example DNR Corners that dip to the inside requiring a road surface solution Corners where the outside portion would be widened Trees and/or stumps that may impede road width Corners where the inside portion may need to be widened Possible turn-out Rathvon Glomset Bennett ~7.6’ ~6.7’~6.7’ Dabob Hideaway Dabob Paradise McGregor, Kooiman 10 CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16 4. Apportionment •Views of apportionment – factors to consider •Base on view that an improved road impacts all properties equally - similar to Toandoes Road apportionment •Base on volume / intensity used by property owner (e.g., year-rounder, vacationer, landowner only) - similar to Toandoes Road apportionment •Base on length of road used by property owner (e.g., the more road used, the more paid by that owner) •Other factors [?] •There are 10* property owners (excluding DNR) •Each property owner’s share will depend on scope and how apportionment issues are resolved •Other considerations •In order to provide access by construction vehicles, if road alterations are required outside of agreed- upon road improvement scope, then this cost should be borne by constructor •If road is damaged by construction, any damages should be repaired by the constructor 11 CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16 5. Summary, questions and discussion •Summary •Questions •Discussion 12 CA received 08/15/25 EXHIBIT RR16