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Mo-chi Lindblad
From:Greg Ballard
Sent:Thursday, August 28, 2025 2:05 PM
To:bblack@ejfr.org
Cc:Mo-chi Lindblad
Subject:Request for EJFR comment for the Mason Street 138 unit lot subdivision (SUB 2025-00012)
Attachments:MSN-Water_08262025.pdf; MSN-EMS_AT_Pumper.pdf; MSN-EMS_150Hose.pdf; MSN-
EMS_AT_Aerial.pdf; 2025 08 06 Mason Street Hearing Fire Marshal exhibit dated Aug 6.pdf
Hello Chief Black, DCD is processing the Mason Street Neighborhood project (SUB 2025-00012).
While we have received a comment from the Fire Marshal (last attachment). However, the Hearing Examiner has also
requested a formal written response from your agency regarding fire safety and protection.
The applicant has submitted the four attached documents for your review, which we believe were previously examined
during the pre-application process.
To ensure your input is included in the record for the Hearing Examiner’s consideration, DCD would appreciate receiving
your written comments by September 19, 2025. Please note that the continued hearing is tentatively scheduled for
September 26, 2025.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
If you have any questions or comments please contact me.
Thanks
Greg Ballard
Jefferson County DCD
Development Code Administrator
gballard@co.jefferson.wa.us
(360) 379-4454
From: Mo-chi Lindblad <MLindblad@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2025 1:44 PM
To: Greg Ballard <GBallard@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: FW: Request for Fire Safety Diagrams and Analysis Package
Please review. Can you send an email to EJFR afterwards?
From: Bob Collins <Bob@habitatejc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2025 1:35 PM
To: Mo-chi Lindblad <MLindblad@co.jefferson.wa.us>; Phil Cecere <PCecere@co.jefferson.wa.us>; Brian Tracer
<BTracer@co.jefferson.wa.us>; Eric Kuzma <EKuzma@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Cc: Tim Pula <tim@capexadvisory.com>; Darren Sandeno <dsandeno@parametrix.com>; Zac Garrard
<zgarrard@parametrix.com>; Julie Miles <julie@habitatejc.org>; Ellen Malmon <ellen@schemataworkshop.com>; Ye
CA received 09/16/25
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Sun <ye@schemataworkshop.com>
Subject: FW: Request for Fire Safety Diagrams and Analysis Package
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Team,
Attached are some updated exhibits or “ to be” exhibits in response to the Hearing and status meeting recently held.
There will be an additional memo and response addressing WSDOT work coming.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
From: Zac Garrard <ZGarrard@parametrix.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2025 3:14 PM
To: Tim Pula <tim@capexadvisory.com>; Bob Collins <Bob@habitatejc.org>; Julie Miles <julie@habitatejc.org>; Ellen
Malmon <ellen@schemataworkshop.com>
Cc: Darren Sandeno <dsandeno@parametrix.com>; Ye Sun <ye@schemataworkshop.com>
Subject: RE: Request for Fire Safety Diagrams and Analysis Package
Afternoon all,
Please find the attached figures:
Fire turning movement – Pumper
Fire turning movement - Aerial
150’ Hose length evaluation
Water composite
Let us know if there’s anything else needed.
Zac Garrard, EIT
Community Building
503-416-6850 | direct
From: Tim Pula <tim@capexadvisory.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2025 12:06 PM
To: Zac Garrard <ZGarrard@parametrix.com>; Bob Collins <Bob@habitatejc.org>; Julie Miles <julie@habitatejc.org>;
Ellen Malmon <ellen@schemataworkshop.com>
Cc: Darren Sandeno <DSandeno@parametrix.com>; Ye Sun <ye@schemataworkshop.com>
Subject: Re: Request for Fire Safety Diagrams and Analysis Package
CA received 09/16/25
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Zac – I’m with you that each color represents a different access route. But I thought we talked about a legend/key that
would explain what the colors relate to. Something like -
Access Route #1 – (Show Block of Red)
Access Route #2 – (Show Block of Green)
Etc.
Now I was driving during the meeting so perhaps we decided this wasn’t needed and I missed it.
I’ll defer to Bob or Julie.
______________________________________________
Tim Pula
Senior Advisor
443-463-2757 | tim@capexadvisory.com | www.capexadvisory.com
From: Zac Garrard <ZGarrard@parametrix.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2025 at 2:42 PM
To: Tim Pula <tim@capexadvisory.com>, Bob Collins <Bob@habitatejc.org>, Julie Miles
<julie@habitatejc.org>, Ellen Malmon <ellen@schemataworkshop.com>
Cc: Darren Sandeno <DSandeno@parametrix.com>, Ye Sun <ye@schemataworkshop.com>
Subject: RE: Request for Fire Safety Diagrams and Analysis Package
Morning Tim,
The different colors are used to distinguish the turning movement analysis for feasible routes throughout the site. Each
route is labeled with a call out. We are presenting only “passing” routes to show ingress/egress options from Mason
Street and Cedar Avenue. There are some “passing” iterations that are not included due to redundancy, but ultimately
we want to show there are feasible emergency access routes from every entrance to the site.
Zac Garrard, EIT
Community Building
503-416-6850 | direct
CA received 09/16/25
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From: Tim Pula <tim@capexadvisory.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2025 10:26 AM
To: Zac Garrard <ZGarrard@parametrix.com>; Bob Collins <Bob@habitatejc.org>; Julie Miles <julie@habitatejc.org>;
Ellen Malmon <ellen@schemataworkshop.com>
Cc: Darren Sandeno <DSandeno@parametrix.com>; Ye Sun <ye@schemataworkshop.com>
Subject: Re: Request for Fire Safety Diagrams and Analysis Package
Darren & Zac – During last week’s meeting I think we talked about adding a legend or key to the turning movement
diagrams to explain what the different colors mean. I think this is important to add, particularly given that both diagrams
use red and green, and someone could assume that the red indicates a path that doesn’t work while green indicates one
that does.
Bob & Julie – I think the turning movement diagrams can be difficult for some people to read and understand if they
don’t have much experience with them. Someone suggested last week that EJFR doesn’t deal with these diagrams very
often. It might help them and in turn help us to meet with them and walk through the diagram with them. Thoughts?
Tim
______________________________________________
Tim Pula
Senior Advisor
443-463-2757 | tim@capexadvisory.com | www.capexadvisory.com
From: Zac Garrard <ZGarrard@parametrix.com>
Date: Monday, August 25, 2025 at 7:59 PM
To: Bob Collins <Bob@habitatejc.org>, Julie Miles <julie@habitatejc.org>, Tim Pula
<tim@capexadvisory.com>, Ellen Malmon <ellen@schemataworkshop.com>
Cc: Darren Sandeno <DSandeno@parametrix.com>, Ye Sun <ye@schemataworkshop.com>
Subject: RE: Request for Fire Safety Diagrams and Analysis Package
Good evening Bob,
Please find the updated fire safety figures attached for your review. These figures do include the revised site plan layout
by Schemata.
Let us know if there are any follow up questions.
Zac Garrard, EIT
Community Building
CA received 09/16/25
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503-416-6850 | direct
From: Bob Collins <Bob@habitatejc.org>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2025 10:26 AM
To: Zac Garrard <ZGarrard@parametrix.com>; Julie Miles <julie@habitatejc.org>; Tim Pula <tim@capexadvisory.com>;
Ellen Malmon <ellen@schemataworkshop.com>
Cc: Darren Sandeno <DSandeno@parametrix.com>; Ye Sun <ye@schemataworkshop.com>
Subject: RE: Request for Fire Safety Diagrams and Analysis Package
For the purposes of communicating to the County and Examiner…that should be fine. To be clear, I am thinking you are
saying there is a level of work if we are revising via CAD that will delay a timely response. Correct?
From: Zac Garrard <ZGarrard@parametrix.com>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2025 10:19 AM
To: Bob Collins <Bob@habitatejc.org>; Julie Miles <julie@habitatejc.org>; Tim Pula <tim@capexadvisory.com>; Ellen
Malmon <ellen@schemataworkshop.com>
Cc: Darren Sandeno <dsandeno@parametrix.com>; Ye Sun <ye@schemataworkshop.com>
Subject: RE: Request for Fire Safety Diagrams and Analysis Package
Morning Bob,
We can update the figures based on your feedback on the previous site plan if that’s sufficient to resubmit to the
County. However, if we want to include the updated site plan, we’ll need a CAD background from Schemata before
finalizing the fire figures.
Please advise on how you’d like us to proceed.
Zac Garrard, EIT
Community Building
503-416-6850 | direct
From: Bob Collins <Bob@habitatejc.org>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2025 2:13 PM
To: Mo-chi Lindblad <MLindblad@co.jefferson.wa.us>; Julie Miles <julie@habitatejc.org>; Tim Pula
<tim@capexadvisory.com>
Cc: Darren Sandeno <DSandeno@parametrix.com>; Zac Garrard <ZGarrard@parametrix.com>
Subject: RE: Request for Fire Safety Diagrams and Analysis Package
CA received 09/16/25
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Mo-chi,
We have the materials and will forward them to you Monday.
From: Mo-chi Lindblad <MLindblad@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2025 1:43 PM
To: Bob Collins <Bob@habitatejc.org>; Julie Miles <julie@habitatejc.org>; Tim Pula <tim@capexadvisory.com>
Subject: Request for Fire Safety Diagrams and Analysis Package
Good afternoon,
During one of the pre-application meetings, it was noted that Parametrix would be preparing a package of diagrams and
analyses related to fire safety. This package was expected to include:
A turning analysis for the access road
A diagram illustrating hose length and coverage
A conceptual hydrant location plan
Could you please provide this package, along with any other relevant materials? DCD is planning to send a follow-up
email to East Jefferson Fire Rescue (EJFR) by end of business on Monday, August 25, 2025, requesting a written response
to address the concerns raised by the Hearing Examiner.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Mo-chi Lindblad
Jefferson County
Department of Community Development
mlindblad@co.jefferson.wa.us
(360) 316-1602
CA received 09/16/25
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Mission Statement
To preserve and enhance the quality of life in Jefferson County by promoting a vibrant
economy, sound communities and a healthy environment.
Jefferson County Community Development
Office of the Building Official
Office of the Fire Marshal
Phil Cecere
621 Sheridan St • Port Townsend WA 98368
Desk: 360.379.4461 https: co.jefferson.wa.us/1687
August 6, 2025
Tom Erlichman
Jefferson County Hearing Examiner
1820 Jefferson St
Port Townsend, WA.98368
It is my understanding that the previous exhibit comments provided from my office was
found insufficient and denied. In light of this, I am taking advantage of the alternative to
testifying at a future hearing and providing written comments as I plan on being out of
office and feel it improper to delay this hearing any further.
The Mason street proposal has been meticulously thought out and input has been
provided by this office through numerous, well attended meetings. I, myself representing
the Fire Marshal and the Building Official duties for Jefferson County, as well as East
Jefferson Fire Rescue has had ample reviews of the various portions and revisions of
this project.
Fire flow analysis has been discussed with the applicant and the water purveyor
Jafferson PUD#1. The proposed use of the majority of the structures as residential four
unit townhomes, less than three stories and less than 5,000 sq ft cumulative per
structure falls under the threshold for residential automatic sprinklers. The proposed
congregate buildings and the required fire protection and life safety system
requirements are deferred until permit application submission and reivew. Preliminary
proposed water availability via 8” mains will accommodate all hydrant locations, with
hydrant flow data to be verified prior to building permit issuance.
All emergency access is appropriate, with comments only as to the viability of the road
construction of the wagon track style road being discussed as to the durability to
withstand #75,000 water tankers. Location of the access road and access through the
parking areas is found to be appropriate including turning radii analysis and hydrant
placement produced by Parametrix and provided by the applicant. Addressing is
deferred to a future process at the time of building application submittal.This is
consistent with DCD practices, preliminary input has been provided by JeffCom
dispatch for consistency with addressing compatibility.
Phil Cecere, Jefferson County Fire Marshal, Building Official
CA received 09/16/25
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