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Jefferson CountyPlanning Commission
PORT T®WNBEND, WA91F#!NGTON 98368
MINUTES OF AUGUST 20, 1975
SPECIAL MEETING, "HERMITAGE" EVALUATION
I. OPENING'BUSINESS
Chairman Norris Short called the meeting to order at 7;35 p.m.
Members present were Eva Taylor, Ed Wainwright, finis Stevens, Chet Dalgleish,
and Fred Houghton.
.Chairman Short declared ac orw of five members. On advice of couns-el, Fred
Houghton excused himself frorn•the meeting. His direct concern with the pro-
posed project makes him ineligable from recommendations and discussions under
the Planning Enabling Act.
David.Cunningham, Director of the Planning Department, was present.
Guests were ATV--Consul.tant Roger Lov-itt, Hermitage Developer Robert Newgard,
Hermitage Planner Regnar Kearton, Hermitage Attorney Charles Mertel and•Para-
Attorney Barbara Nordeen. Several residents cif the Coyle Peninsula were ►resent.
Reading, and approval of minutes were dispensed until the next regular meeting.
II. ALL TERRAIN VEHICLE PLAN
Roger Lovitt, Consultant for the County in developing the ATV Plan, introduced
himself. He stated he would be contacting the members of the Planning Commis-
sion individually to get ideas and information.on placement of trails and use
determination. After contacting eAch -member, Mr. Lovitt noted that he would
again meet with the Commission in less than a month to present his recommenda-
tions that will be given to the County Commissioners.
III. HERMITAGE CAMPER CLUB
Director of Planning David Cunningham noted that a synopsis of the oral testi-
mony was sent to each member. A synopsis of the written testimony was passed
out at this time.
Mr. Cunningham gave a brief summary of each,response'to the comMents'on the.
Draft' .E. I-3. (The. responses were made by topic and .are- attached hereto,
-being 'a part of the official .minutes.) 'In association with topic 7, ,Traffic
and Roads,"Mr. Cunningham gave some camparitable road cpunts with the Coyle
Road. These were the Fort Flagler State Park -Road, with 4W cars per day,,
and the Chimacum-Center Valley Road, with 900 cars per day: ;
Mr. Cunningham noted, any comments made regardipg.the inadequacy of the
Final E.L.S. must be made within 60 days from the date of -decision .made -by
the,County.
A question was brought forth on whether the'Final E.I.S. should be sen't'to ,
all the reci-pients of the Draft. Mrs: Cunningham noted the cost would be
approximately $90. Chairman Short believed they should.not.be sent because
of the'cost factor. Ed Wainwright suggested that a notice be put in the
Lpaper stating -the availability of the Final E.I.S. which could be picked up at
the Jefferson County Planning Department. This suggestion met approval -by the_
Commission.
Continuation of the project evaluation sheet, Mich was discussed in -part at
the August 6th meeting, began with number 10, Refuse Handling.
NUffiber 1.0, Refuse Handling: Chairman Short questioned -the Developer's respon-
sibility. Mr. Newgard replied, the Developer's will be responsible for the
pick up'and delivery of refuse to the disposal Cite, as guaranteed in"the con-
tract agreement.
'Number 11, Corporate Membership, responsibiliti,!s and conditions; Chairman
Short questioned the Developer, what guarantee is there to the members that all.
conditions -of the,agreement are met? Mr. Newgard stated the developmen" s, set
up phase"by. phase. When the 1st membership is i;old,of Phase I then all- condi-
tions will be met for the phase under the bonded'bid.-
Number'12, Financial Responsibility: It was.no-ed by Mr. Cunningham this aspect
of the Camping Club Ordinance was essentially a matter for the County Co issioners =
and not for the Planning Commission. ,
At this time Chet Dalgieish questioned Mr. Newg rd on a tax request "brought before
the Board of Equalization. He stated that the Developer's asked the Board,,
approximately one year ago, to reduce the�tax valuation on a parcel, adjoining the
lake and -a few months later asked for the property to be put back on the -tax -roll
at -full value due to receiving funds from banking institutions. Mr. Newgard-
replied that it was correct they asked for alax reduction based -on the inequities
of the .assessment. The..parcels were assessed on a whole rather than individually.
Mr. Aewgard stated that the Corporation did not ask the assessor for full va-lua-
Lion to benefit themselves in the method of borrowing money.
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Mr. Dalgleish questioned what appeared
Mr. Newgard regarding deeded ownership
noted that a portion of the property is
only a $4,500 balance is remaining, and
ability to complete aquisition, and the
in the hands of the Corporation.
o be conflicting statements.made by
r title .of the property. Mr. Newgard
encumbered, and as to-aquisition,
that the Corporation has the financial
ensuing title in fee simple will be
Number 13: Limitations on the Sale and Use of Camp`7Sites: PlanningzDirector
Dave Cunningham noted the wording of the Camping Club Ordinance states the
Board of County Commissioners, may at its.sole.descretion, upon considering
a development plan, permit up to 300% memberships of the total -number of sites
prior to the sale of the first membership.
Chairman Short was in question about guests of members.. W, Cunningham noted
the Ordinance goes on to say subletting a site shall be permitted, but multi-
pTe occupancy -in any campsite is prohibited. r.
Mr. Newgard noted that his Corporation would not have control over.the number
of people at one unit or single campsite, only that a trailer, -or .RV - one
in number - it allowed in each campsite. Mr. Newgard noted further that the
Corporation hopes to maintain control of guest numbers through -the By -Laws in
that (1) guest fees will be -charged and (2),members must pre -notify the manager
for accomodation reservations.
Eva Taylor stated at this time the question is not whether the project conforms
to the Comprehensive Plan and the Camper Club Ordinance but if the Coyle is
a desireable.place for such a development and whether the County should accept
the financial responsibility.
Chet Dalgleish noted eventhough the Developert may -comply with.all regulations
it is not desireable to this area of the County to have a Camper Club. Mr.
Dalgleish made a motion that the Jefferson County Planning Commission deny the
application for the Hermitage Camper Club at Fisherman Harbor in Jefferson County
and that this landsite be better suited for subdivision into 2 to b acre lots.
Motion seconded by Eva Taylor,
Ed Wainwtf§ht noted the motion should not state what should be done with the
property.
Mr. Dalgleish rephased his motion to say'that the Jefferson County Planning
Commission deny the application for the Hermitage Camper Club at Fisherman Harbor
in Jefferson County.
Discussion ensued on whether the motion is a legal motion. It was noted by both
Mr. Cunningham and Chairman Short that the findings of both the Comprehensive
Plan and the Camping Club Ordinance should be made in the motion.
Chet Dalgleish withdrew the motion. Eva'Taylor withdrew her second.
Upon Chet Dalgleish`s dismissal from the meeting the quorum was disabled. The
meeting would.continue the next week.
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IV. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting Was adjourned at 9z50. p.m.
V. NEXT MEETING
The next meeting is scheduled for August.27, 1975.
Respectfully Submitted, _
Laura Southmayd
Planning -Department Secretary
and Action Secretary for the--Commiss-lon
NOTE: This meeting was tape recorded and and.is on file with the Jefferson
County Planning Department.
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t v.-xrt .vary 'BY TOPIC 'TO CaftM'.CS CN DRA'F"T
1. -Solid Waste: The Coyle drop -box refuse disposal station is now an
element of the Jefferson County Solid Waste Manay-a.. t Plan .which is already
funded. The drop -box is scheduled for installation in approximately March
of 1976. It will be capable of 30 cubic yards of storage at 1,200 pounds.
of compacted solid waste per cubic yard, which equals 18 tons at full
capacity. Vftz one container becomes filled it will be hauled away and
replaced with an empty container so there always will be space available.
The quantity of refuse disposed at dictates how often the contall= is
replaced. Ninety tons per month is the estimated maximum tonnage of solid
waste to be generated by this project and such would cause five container
exchanges per month.
The drop -boxes would be coin -operated. mince, apk= tely 25% of tire
cost of operation and maintenance would be A c..ov4,_. ,-d U" -user-fees. nm
remaining cost of operation would be born by County Taxpayers at large.
Five container exchanges per month generated by the proposed development
would cost County taxpayers roughly $3750 per year.
2. law Eazforcerat: A conversatico with the Jefferson County Sheriff, Mr.
Robert Hanson, revealed the following: The bm existing clubs in
Jefferson County have had for all intents and purposes no impact cn the depart-
ment. The deputies make routine calls and that is all and historicalxy
prrblems that arise are usually quelled by the proprietors or managers. It
was explained to Sheriff Hanson that this development will be different in that
it is a destination type project but he could not foresee that an additional
deputy would be required, even in that distant future by reason of this project.
If this added requ7.a.=,.=.L were to develop it would be an additional expense to
the county of approximately $14,000 annually. A more realistic expense for the
present situation Vv► . to be to project 20 additional calls annually by the
-present deputy in that area who lives near the 'intersecUm of the Coyle-OAlcene
Road. Each call would be an additional expense to the county of approximately
$32.00 involving 3 hours travel time, 40 miles of travel and minimal expended
equipment. If 20 additional calls became a reality this would be an ackliticmal
expense to the .county of $640 annually.
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3. Vandalism &Trespass: In a discussion with William E. Howard, Jefferson;
Oxmty Prosecuting Attorney, it was determisied that only a very small portico
of actual vandalism and trespass cases ever get to his office. A case would
have to involve over $25 value and possibly more than $250 before he wild
becom involved. Most cases are handled by parents and juvenile trout. The
concerns he could see were destroying signs, breaking fences, picking berries
on private N.-� Ly or young people who would leave the site and omm to town
to have a few beers etc. might become involved in some trouble... It was -deter-
mined that it would be impossible to project a mmnetary expense to Jeff
County due to this aspect of the inpact of this population increase.
it was suggested that registration of the out -of -county .,.ACLc;,.o vehicle
license nuflOers, addresses, etc. with the sheriff `s dep. Um,,f: might be a
deterrent or an aid an pursuing minor infractions. Also, close c�cafiio�
and'eooperaticn,with the project management would be an aid.
4. Overspill: it can. reasonably be expected that properqcgmers in close
Proximity to the riuk&,ocd project will be the recipients of certain "overspill"
problem. The will most likely be from (a) those tourist-..4...O
who are not of the club and who find themselves unable to gain entry for
overnight a,"A-, Aaticns, (b) guests and friends of club and M club
u, themselves who find .the need to "explore" and :engage in activities
beyond those provided on the project site.
The cost of overspill can be more accurately analized by itemizing possible
mitigating measures: 1. The entire perimeter of the project could be fenced
with the exception of public bead areas. This would be a�w4vAlmtely 18,000
feet of fencing' at a cost of $135,000. 2. The project wild be foxed only
along areas where it Lll�..cic..._ private t.�u ,. t,, near roads and accesses. - This
would mean'roughly 2,000 feet of fencing at a cost of $15,000. 3. Signs quid
be posted every 100 feet along private property and at each private road within
one mile. This would be approximately 150 signs at a cost of $2,250. 4. Gates
could be erected at private roads near the project. The costofsuch a measure
would be roughly $55 per gate, plus $15 per each sign armed. 5. Beach areas
and private tidelands could be posted, however, physical restraints such asfends
would be costly- (approximately $7.50 per lineal foot) and j c&U=, i aracti cal.
Although difficult to quantify, additional overspill costs will be incurred
due to try -cutting, brush picking, shellfish gathering, and. vandalism..
5. Membership 'and - Sales: The Hermitage Club will be a social organization
(Washington nonprofit w. •"�al.ion) , the .►=&.c..s of which will be the owners
of the 1,100 sites at the development. As each site will be sold, 3times
there will be 3,300 ... ►,Lc.L. at. time of coaplete development. Each will
pay $60 per year to the developer as maintenaxice dues. 7he developer will
own and maintain all of the roads, utilities and recreational facilities within
the development.
6. population Dei-city: Gross overall maximm density is 3.5 sites per acre,
or 12.25 people per acre.
With. 311 acres in the project, we must subtract the roads, �+.►�.� vial
buildings, pot-ds, and comTan-use areas. nn maxismzm net 'population density is,
therefore, 29 people per acre. pages 67 and 68 of the Envi �..,.,...i.al. ?gaact
Statement outline population densities at various occupancy rates over a
typical, year..
7. Traffic and Roads: The County roads in the near vicinity of the project are
surfaced with oil and gravel rolled to cMYpress layers to forma sealed surface.
According to Mr. Glen Bagley of Jefferson County Engineers Office, these roads,
to the intersection of Zelatchet and Hazel Point Roads# conform with A.A.S.H.O.
H2O loading and State of Washington standards thus the intense traffic of canper
vehicles would not cause untimely deterioration. The road from Zelatchet and
Hazel Point Reads to the development gate will require upgrading. The developer
proposes to improve the county road from his northeast ty line to the
Project gate only.
The traffic -count on the Coyle Road.near the Zelatchet Point intersection
was 50 cars per day in 1972 and 33 cars per clay in 1974. it can reasonably be
c.i ., ad that the traffic generated by the camping club would be in close rela-
tions .. (
hiP to the occuPaancy�}rates outlined on pages 67 and 68 of the Em i,.%A .Lal
StGa .L.• That is:
- Fourth of July, Labor Day and Memorial Day weekerxs (7 days/year) , 1,100 cars -
Per day;
`- 13 Sumer Weekends (26 days/year), 825 cars per day
- 14 Sun wx Weeks (70 days/year) , 440 cars per day
- 37 Off -Season Weekends (74 days/year), 165 cars per day
- 38 Off-season Weeks (188 days/year), 110 cars per day
These approximations do not include guest traffic,, normal local residence
traffic, or miscellaneous short -trip "excursion" traffic by club members during
emir stay at the facility.
8. Take Dredging: As discussed on page 56 of the' draft ErML-u-Asuca- ,al Imlaact
Statement, any dredging of the lake would be by clamshell and the spoil would
be trucked to an old gravel pit or open area for stock piling and drying out.
Later it would probably be used as fill dirt where needed under controlled
cmnditicns. It a z the water is badly silted and the bottoms are muck.
The anticipated yardage material to be dredged of the Lake is 1000 yards. The
lake Presently is alike and has no fish in it, but does have frogs, water
dogs and numerous other water animals and insects. It may become necessary to
install supplemental purification equipment to aeriate the lake water or provide
same flushing by tidal action with salt water from. Hood Canal.. There is. an
existing culvert connecting this lake to Hood Canal.; however, it :is presently r
Plugged.
9. Shellfish Deduction: It is quite likely that the impact of the number of
people to be present on the site, along with the pW31ic who gain- access to the
beach by boat would quickly deplete the shellfish available. This has been the
history of the State Parks on hood Canal and other state parks with beads..
This could be mitigated by strict controls. The limits of shellfish to be taken
are set by Washington State agencies. The number of oysters available could be
increased by planting, by providing ideal conditions.for spat, by seeding and by
star fish control. Fisherman Harbor is a suitable body of water for raising .. - -
oyster spat but presently there,is nothing but mud along the shores thus nothing
for them to attach to. During field investigation, a fallen tree in the water was
found to be wvt_-L-_d with spat. 7dLV..Vvt =A&L of such oomiditicsns would have to be
accomplished by the Washington State Fisheries Department or with their super-
vision and aivval. Noadditional public access is intended to be provided with
this developrrnnt.
10. . Drainage: Area not on Plate 110, Sheet 30 of the draft Eazvi.j.%au.:L..al.
Impact Statement: The area along the east border of the lying
between the county road and Fisherman Harbor and more particularly the site of
"Boat Launch, Park and She].ter% This was not fully designed at time of the '
draft envi._"u►=4,La1 impact statement. Specific use of the area is still oontinr=
gent an the granting of a shorelines development permit. The normal run-off
Pattern slopes easterly from the county road toward the West banks of FioI'b_-&uzux
Harbor. New construction will not change this pattern, except that runoff'
concentration will increase as the project develops. Storm waters framn paved
areas and roads and inprovemnents Will be collected and directed to holding ponds
acting as storage areas to impound faster run-off oomicentration. Outlets, at '
each pond will be so designed as to control out -flow from ponds into Fisherman
Harbor at or below present run-off rates. Catch basins will be provided to
trap oil pollutants.
11. Boating: The recreational vehicles by which people would arrive at their
site would include mobile traalers, ,V,-., hauled on pickup trucks, foldout
camping trailers, some self-camtained panel units ("Winnebag" type) and soma
site occupants could be expected to tent. Members could trailer boats or
transport them on cartops, A., rough figure by Washi.ngon State Parks. and
Recreation states that 1 of every 3 families in the Puget Sound area owns a
boat of some type including prams, canoes and yachts. It is therefore possible
that at. maximum Occupancy, the of the camping club could generate .366 _
boats. This would be in addition to other boats in the area due to the Omn-chill
Lies dock, transient boaters in Fisherman's Harbor, and guests of Club
AU=dJr_LO. Similar statistics state that most boat owners use their boats 3 or 4
times annually. It is not the intention of the developer to Pry parking,
storage facilities or moorage for a great number of boats, rather the intention
is to provide 35 parking places for boat trailers at the launch site and
for approximately 20 boats. Trailers and boats could be parked in a dead storage
fenced area to be constructed by the developer and leased to A single
width boat ramp win be provided with an allotted turn around time of 10 to 15
minutes; the maximum number of boats capable of being launched per- lour would
be 5 or 6. With the facilities provided, • the -difficulty of navigation to and
from Fisherman Harbor at low water, and the present boat ramp and moorage at. Coyle,
the developer is anticipating that boat usage will be aotdmatically di,�eouraged
through inconvenience. To alleviate the reed fora great number of boats by
individual owners at the project and in navigating to .and from a launching and
mooring facility Within Fisherman Harbor, the club manatrzu,=,.l could arrange to
offer charters for sightseeing trips, salmon or bottom fishing. Also, they
could arrange to rent or offer for hire a number of ski boats. All of these
Larger type craft that could ac=nodate larger numbers of people. could be moored
elsewhere on Hood Canal and be scheduled to appear at predetermined times. To
accomplish this a float type dock would need to be anchored in Hood Canal near the
entrance of Fisherman Harbor or near the present lodge.
12. Scheduling 'of Sites: The program for the three .muLc.L., of each of the
sites Is most easily explained by stating that a three year calendar will. :be
set up on a weekly basis such that the "A" (red card) will get the week of the .
Fourth of July 1976. The "B" (blue card) will get the week of the Fourth of
July 1977. The "C" (yellow card) will get the week of the. Fourth of July 1978.
Other identical weeks for the three years will be scheduled four the three owners.
One person could own both a red and yellow card and get bgo thirds of the
Prescribed time. Also, during some more desirable meths 2 weeks stays will be
scheduled,for each color instead of the normal single week. Other arrangements
may be made the three owners of the site -membership, and different site
swaps can be arranged with different owners through the management scheduling
d-t.mL l ,#-- &*'L. All arrangements must be scheduled in advance with the sohed Aing
department and 10 sites will be reserved on a.visltors basis for promotion and
sales.
13. Fisherman Harbor: The Harbor is discussed in the draft ersvi�",,.s=.Laa1 impact
statement on pages 44 to 49, 52 and 53, 55 to 58 and 69. Ube dredging ,.
in Fisherman Harbor would be done to elongate the basin already existing at the
Coyle eom mity club and boat ramp facility Mich is presently minus
10'-0' MUM. .The dredging would be acoarplished by clamshell and the dredge spoil
would be trucked from the site to an open area for stock piling ; ng drying out and
future use for fill. The entire dredging would be approximately 8,000 yards. The
boat ramp would be per preliminary plans on file in the Jefferson County Planners
office. Flushing of Fisherman Harbor: MAs was mentioned in the EnvL A..�,..al.
Impact Statement as a tentative problem because of the "bath tub" shape of the
harbor bottom which gives great for the induction of any additional pollu-
tants. There are three small stream drainfng into Fisherman Harbor. There is no
evidence of anadromous fish in these streams at this t1m however long time resi-
dents say that 30 years ago there were salmon runs in these streams. Tie absence
Of fish appears to be from general depletion of salmm runs as is witnessed
,,throughout the State rather than from local pollution or local adverse cxxrditions.
The Washington State Fisheries env3r0MMtal coordinator has stated that Fisherntian
Harbor is used as a nursery area by juvenile chum and pink salmon and sampling has
been done for the past 11 years to predict future runs of these adult salmon. .
Also numerous other species of fish such as perch, cod, dogfish etc. frequently
visit Fisherman Harbor because of the lame number of small marine organisms and
spawn. A suggestion was posed by the Washingtonn-State Fisheries Department that
dredging a basin closer to the outlet of Fisherman Harbor would cause less
impact or short-term effect as well as long-term (silting and flushing).
7hi.s has recently been investigated and remains a possibility but it would
require reopening an old logging road along the west bank of Fisherman Harbor
and developing the parking and boat ramp at the beach inside the small .spit
that partially closes the Harbor. Large numnbers of boats could .cause great'
inpact on the fish pcpulation of this body of water, however, if the boats
were restricted to the Harbor entrance area the impact could conceivably be
14. Public Expenditures: It has been suggested that some estimation of dal
County expenditures should be calculated for the V,.yk&,bed project if it is
developed.
The following County expenditures include:
- Schools - $8,800 annually
- Law - $640 annually using existing r.� �. url ; $14,000 arm iaUy if.
a new, full-time deputy bevoes necessary.
- Road Maintenance - ($1400/mile/year'-is present oomtywide average)
- Miscellaneous Expenses such as Assessor's, Treasurer's, and Auditor's services
State R93j�dituress •include:
— State Game Protector services
- State Fisheries Patrol
- Department of Natural Resources - possible fire fighting
15. Hunting: The Washington State Game Department has expressed the opinion that
the deer population on Tbandos Peninsula is as high as most anywhere in the* State
and this may be an attraction to some comer site owners which will cause some addi-
tional impact on the game and ty upon which hunting is allowed. fiver,'
this is a difficult area to hunt as the uoclerbrush is thick and most roads. are
graven up, washed out or abandoned. The trees are mostly coniferous and do not
lose their leaves in fall or winter. It rains regularly in hunting season and the
wind blows daily. Men on site observations were made during hunting season many
: = NjvY- Ues were posted "No Hunting". one would conclude that the reason the deer
population is high is because of the above factors - the good browse and mild
weather conditions and difficult hunting in the area.
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