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HomeMy WebLinkAboutM052217 - w/Hearing Comments re: Establishing Two (2) Ocean Grove No Shooting Areas in the Vicinity of Beckett Point in Jefferson County (0002)District No. 1 Commissioner: Kate Dean District No. 2 Commissioner: David W. Sullivan District No. 3 Commissioner: Kathleen Kier County Administrator: Philip Morley Clerk of the Board: Erin Lundgren MINUTES Week of May 22, 2017 Madam Chair Kathleen Kler called the meeting to order at the appointed time in the presence of Commissioner David Sullivan and Commissioner Kate Dean. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD: The following is a summary of comments made by individuals in attendance at the meeting and reflect their personal opinions: • An individual stated: 1) Global Warming is real and is accelerating and gave examples; and 2) Supplemental vitamins can prolong your life; • An individual urged the Commissioners to consider the individuals who live in the proposed No - Shoot area and how they are impacted; • An individual stated: 1) Shrimp Fest is May 27-28, 2017 in Brinnon; and 2) The Jefferson County Library received a new roof, and he asked when is the Brinnon Community Center going to receive a new roof?; • An individual stated: 1) He noticed only one electric vehicle in the Rhododendron Parade and suggested ways to increase electric vehicle participation; 2) He hopes the Jefferson County website will be easier to navigate; 3) He would like to receive an update regarding the County moving to online meetings; and 4) Voiced his concern regarding a potential Housing Levy being put on the ballot and asked for a lot more public discussion before the decision is made; • Two individuals commented on the types of vehicles used during the Rhododendron parade; and • An individual noted that United Good Neighbors and other groups are focusing on Jefferson County's housing issue. APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA: Madam Chair Kler noted a correction to Consent Item No. 13 re: Payment of Warrants and Vouchers. The amount is listed as $72,662.07 when it should read $572,662.07. Commissioner Sullivan moved to approve all the items on the Consent Agenda with the correction to Item No. 13 as noted. Commissioner Dean seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. 1. AGREEMENT re: Water Monitoring, Agriculture Surveys and Public Outreach Projects in Strait Priority Areas; In the Amount of $30,000; Jefferson County Public Health; Jefferson County Conservation District 2. AGREEMENT re: Conservation Futures Fund Acquisition Project for Midori Farm Conservation Easement; In the Amount of $94,626; Jefferson County Public Health; Jefferson Land Trust 3. AGREEMENT NO. 1563-42479, Amendment No. 4 re: Excellence in Preventions Strategies Program; An Additional Amount of $8,000 for a Total of $222,500; Jefferson County Public Health; Washington State Department of Social and Health Services Page 1 Commissioners Meeting Minutes of May 22, 2017 4. AGREEMENT NO. C17112, Amendment No. 11 re: 2015-2017 Consolidated Contracts; An Additional Amount of $57,486 for a Total of $1,200,150; Jefferson County Public Works; Washington State Department of Health 5. AGREEMENT re: Property Use for HIV Case Management for Jefferson County Residents; "In - Kind" Services Valued at $128.62/per Month in 2017 with an Increase of 3% Each Year After; Jefferson County Public Health; Kitsap Public Health District 6. AGREEMENT re: Youth Tobacco and Vapor Prevention Activities; In the Amount of $7,000; Jefferson County Public Health; United General District #304 of Skagit County 7. AGREEMENT, Interlocal re: Establish Funding for a 1.0 FTE Executive Director and a.25 FTE Epidemiologist for the Community Health Improvement Plan (CHIP); In the Amount of $87,500 (County's Portion); Jefferson County Public Health; City of Port Townsend and Jefferson Healthcare 8. AGREEMENT re: Partnership Agreement to Work Collaboratively to Determine the Next Steps for a Combined YMCA/Mountain View Commons Community Recovery Center; No Dollar Amount; Jefferson County Commissioners; Port Townsend School District #50; City of Port Townsend; Jefferson County Public Hospital District #2; and the Olympic Peninsula YMCA 9. AGREEMENT re: Griffith Point Road Guardrail Replacement; In the Amount of $17,669.64; Jefferson County Public Works; Peterson Brothers, Inc. 10. AGREEMENT re: Undi Bypass Road Guardrail Installment; In the Amount of $35,558.10; Jefferson County Public Works; Peterson Brothers, Inc. 11. AGREEMENT, Loan No. PC12-951-052, Amendment No. C re: Port Hadlock Wastewater Sewer System Project; No Dollar Amount, Extension of Time Only; Jefferson County Public Works; Public Works Trust Fund Board, Washington State Department of Commerce 12. ORGANIZATIONAL CHART re: 2017 Public Works Staffing Schedule 13. Payment of Jefferson County Vouchers/Warrants Dated May 17, 2017 Totaling $572,662.07 (as corrected) 14. Payment of Jefferson County A/P Warrants Done by Payroll Dated May 6, 2017 Totaling $126,330.57 EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION of SERVICE, Dennis Bates, Solid Waste Operations Coordination: Public Works Director/County Engineer Monte Reinders recognized recently retired Solid Waste Operations Coordinator Dennis Bates for his 39 years of service to Jefferson County. He stated that Mr. Bates started working for the County in 1978, back when the Solid Waste Transfer Station was called the landfill. He commented that Mr. Bates was a great person to work with and always responded when he was on call and noted his commitment to the facility and the entire operation. Public Works staff purchased a plaque and Madam Chair Kler presented it to Mr. Bates. APPROVAL of MINUTES: Commissioner Sullivan moved to approve the March 27, 2017 Regular Meeting Minutes as presented. Commissioner Dean seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. Page 2 Commissioners Meeting Minutes of May 22, 2017 BID OPENING re: Rick Tollefson Memorial Trail, Phase I Project, CRI 815, County Road No. 850100, Federal Aid Project No. STPR-2016(018): Public Works Engineering Services Manager Erik Kuzma and Engineer John Wayand were present for the bid opening. Commissioner Sullivan stated that this portion of trail connects with the Safe Routes to School crossing and is part of a vision for an interior trail system and he is glad that it is coming to fruition. The Engineer's estimate for the project is $653,414.04. Mr. Wayand read aloud the following five bids: BIDDER BID AMOUNT Shold Excavating, Inc. $557,319.00 Interwest Construction, Inc. $720,420.00 Orion Marine Group $851,070.00 Nordland Construction $753,933.75 IO Environmental and Infrastructure, Inc. $679,247.11 Staff will review bids and submit a recommendation for bid award to the Board at a future date. The meeting was recessed at 9:50 a.m. and reconvened at 9:59 a.m. with all three Commissioners present. HEARING re: Ordinance Establishing the Ocean Grove No Shoot Areas: On April 10, 2015 pursuant to Jefferson County Code 8.50.050(1)(a), a petition was submitted to the Board of County Commissioners (BOCC) by residents of the Ocean Grove area located in voting Precinct #105. The petition asked the Commissioners to establish a no shooting area concurrent with the plats of Ocean Grove Estates and Ocean Grove No. 2 located southeast of Beckett Point. The County Auditor, upon reviewing the petition, certified it met the requirement of having at least 20 valid signatures from eligible electors within the one area including Ocean Grove Estates and Ocean Grove No. 2. The County Auditor also found there were insufficient signatures from eligible electors within Ocean Grove No. 3 to meet the petition requirements of JCC 8.50.050(1)(a). On April 3, 2017, pursuant to JCC 8.50.050(1)(b), the Board of County Commissioners passed a Motion to consider a no shooting area in Ocean Grove No. 3. Pursuant to State law RCW 9.41.300 and County Code Chapter 8.50 the County can restrict the discharge of firearms where there is a reasonable likelihood that humans, domestic animals, or property may be jeopardized. A map, legal description and draft ordinance that would establish the proposed Ocean Grove No Shooting Areas was made available online April 19, 2017. To promote active participation of residents and interested tribes, the hearing notice was published in the Port Townsend Leader on April 19 and 26, 2017. A letter to invite input from Treaty Tribes and neighboring tribes was mailed on April 19, 2017. Page 3 Commissioners Meeting Minutes of May 22, 2017 Madam Chair Kler opened the hearing for public testimony. Ec" Dan Nasman; Cape George Road, Port Townsend: He stated that he is the manager of the Ocean Grove Homeowner's Association (HOA) and has been compiling some of the materials that the Commissioners have received. He purchased property in Ocean Grove 29 years ago and moved to Ocean Grove in 1996 when he had a home constructed there. At that time it was a sparsely -built area. Now there are 80 homes and most people live on double lots. 75% of the available parcels have been built and have families. The concern of shooting came to his attention a few years ago. He stated that even though the Commissioners have the information in their file, he will explain the situation that represents what precipitated all of this. He read from a statement of neighbors who could not attend the hearing. "There seems to be no reason to allow shooting in a residential area such as ours. There are families with children and many people with dogs and cats. Many of us walk the area. One example regarding the shooting of firearms in our neighborhood occurred when our neighbor, who has a child, and ourselves heard shots quite close to our house. My husband went to investigate and found a man shooting a handgun into a bank of a vacant lot..." Mr. Nasman explained that the lot is not vacant, it's just an extended lot to their property. "...directly below our house. Essentially aiming in the direction of our houses. When my husband asked him to stop, the man did quit at that time, but insisted that he had a right to shoot his gun off around here. We did call the Sheriff s Office but were told that we lived in an area that allowed people to shoot their firearms. Since there is a gun range in Jefferson County, there seems to be no logical reason to allow random shooting in a residential neighborhood such as ours." Mr. Nasman stated that letter was a very succinct trigger that then brought the community to sign a petition. Even though it takes only 20 petition signatures to certify, they received about 60, which is about 80% of the owners who signed. It is important to acknowledge that this has no bearing on ownership of firearms. Possession of firearms can be used to protect property and life which is an important consideration. Alice Lane; Cape George Road, Port Townsend: She stated that she finds it extremely alarming to hear gunshots so close to her home. There are a lot of trees between here and where the gunshots are coming from. To be sure, she is not sure which lot they are coming from. She pointed to a map where she lived. She stated it is frightening and it seems unnecessary to have that kind of disruption to the peace and quiet of your living environment. She urged the Commissioners to please help them put a stop to this. Allan Cooper; Beckett Point Road, Port Townsend: He urged the Commissioners to include Ocean Grove No. 3 in their decisions. He stated there are fewer people living there, but they also live in close proximity to one another. There are many trees and they would never know which direction the gunshots were coming from. There are children living in their neighborhood as well. Howard Andreasen; Port Townsend: He stated that he is in favor of the Commissioners dropping this entire issue. There is no reason for it. Whatever happened in the past has ceased happening and is never going to happen again. He pointed to an area on the map which is designated Washington State Department of Natural Resources (DNR) land and totals 147 acres. The Department of Fish and Wildlife (DFW) and DNR both state that the public can hunt in there, and he has hunted in there in the past. The discharge of firearms in there would only happen during hunting season. Whatever noise people would hear going off, would only happen during the approved hunting season. This could also be extended to turkey season. There is no shooting going on in there now and there hasn't been for a very long time. Page 4 Commissioners Meeting Minutes of May 22, 2017 This is nothing more than a whole lot of to do for nothing. It has ceased and it is over and done with and that's it. He appreciates the Commissioners' time. Madam Chair Kler asked County Administrator Philip Morley to show on the map where the DNR property is. He showed on the map where DNR property lays adjacent to Ocean Grove Estates and Ocean Grove No. 2. Madam Chair Kler asked for confirmation that the DNR land is not to be included in the proposed No Shooting Zone? County Administrator Morley confirmed that it is not. He added that today the Commissioners received a letter from the Point No Point Treaty Council specifically requesting that the No Shooting Area not include open public lands such as the DNR lands. Commissioner Dean noted so as to preserve their hunting rights. Commissioner Sullivan added that he appreciates a comment made by the Point No Point Treaty Council who expressed a willingness to work with local property owners if there are issues. Mr. Andreasen stated he thought that DNR owned land on one side of Cape George Road, but that a private individual owned on the other side of the road. County Administrator Morley clarified that DNR owned both sides of the road. Patricia Swain; Swanson Avenue, Port Townsend: She stated she has lived in the area for nine years and it has not been many years since they have heard gunshots. She has heard gunshots within the last couple of years. There are a lot of neighbors who walk their dogs around the subdivision and she sees no reason at all to have firearms going off in a residential area. She does not have an opinion on the hunting area if it is safe and away from people, but she does not think that it should be done in a subdivision that is inhabited by families, dogs, cats and deer. Jim Sundeen; Combs Street, Port Townsend: He stated that he has lived in Ocean Grove Estates for 23 years. There was never any problem with shooting for the first 10-15 years he lived there. There has been a change in the neighborhood in terms of the number of people who have moved in. He thinks there is an hyperbole in terms of how frightening and how often the shooting occurred. It was one or two sets of neighbors who were shooting. The disturbing part was that it was done for target practice or just shooting for the fun of it and it was repeated shooting. Bang, bang, bang, bang as opposed to one shot at a deer or something like that out in the fields. For him, that was the disturbing part of it, to be just shooting in the neighborhood for the fun of it, or just to get good with a gun. Since we are not including the areas where people hunt in this exclusion, he can't see any reason why they can't exclude their neighborhood with people in it. Thank you. Rick Nelson; Combs Place, Port Townsend: He showed on a map where he owns five acres. He stated he has owned the property since 1987 and has shot legally and responsibly on that property since 1987. During those 30 years, not one person from the Ocean Grove community has talked to him about his shooting range, or has had the Sheriff's Office contact him. In 1987 you could walk outside your door and not hear dogs barking 24 hours a day, seven days a week, which is not the case today. Commissioner Dean stated she appreciated receiving Mr. Nelson's email. She asked him to clarify that his property is outside the proposed No Shoot Zone? Mr. Nelson replied that it is outside of the area. Janice Layman; Combs Street, Port Townsend: She stated she moved here three years ago and is one of the people who complained about the shooting to Ocean Grove HOA Manager Dan Nasman. She walks along Combs Street, and can hear her neighbor Mr. Nelson shooting while she's walking her dog. She described the sound as bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. She was out on Thanksgiving morning one time and the gunshots were all over and it was the first time she had heard it. She is from a different state Page 5 Commissioners Meeting Minutes of May 22, 2017 where she lived in a less rural area where there were no guns. She is not afraid of guns and grew up with hunters. She thinks people should hunt, but when she is walking her dog along Combs and her neighbor is shooting target practice and she didn't know where it was coming from, it scared her enough to go home. She didn't know what was happening or where it was coming from. In her assigned neighborhood, if you don't shoot, it's pretty loud when you are walking. For people that are used to guns and shoot it's probably not scary, but it's scary to some of us. Thanks. Arlene Sudol, Myrtle Street, Port Townsend: She stated that her property is adjacent to the woods and she does not know who owns it. She hears shooting all the time and it makes her feel uncomfortable because she doesn't feel safe. Hearing no further comments, Madam Chair Kler closed the hearing. County Administrator Morley noted that the Commissioners have the opportunity to review both written and oral testimony both for and against the proposed No Shooting Area. Commissioner Sullivan confirmed with the Deputy Clerk of the Board that there were no new emails received on the issue. Madam Chair Kler stated that she lives next to Washington State Department of Natural Resources (DNR) land and has had individuals shooting near her residence. She said she understands the fear of not knowing which direction the bullets are coming from and asked if Mr. Nelson could speak as to where his berms are and explain how he conducts his target practice? Mr. Nelson stated that he shoots approximately six times per year, when his grandsons are visiting. He noted that he does not sustain gunfire for more than 30 minutes at a time and that he has not had one misfire in 30 years. He explained that he shoots away from the community greenbelt and into a berm that has a metal plate. He added that he bought the property with the intention of shooting there. When he does shoot, he puts a barrier up that says "Live fire occurring" and then proceeds to shoot behind his house. He read hearing comments which stated that the area is quiet. He does not agree with those comments, noting that dogs bark in that area 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and he does not appreciate that noise. County Administrator Morley stated that a No Shoot Area cannot be designated for noise control. The purpose of a No Shoot Area is to establish there is a need to protect humans, property and animals. Commissioner Sullivan stated that the discharge of firearms noise came up during the hearing on the Noise Ordinance. By State law, you cannot regulate discharge of firearms noise. He noted that Jefferson County is bound by State law and there are also laws about reckless endangerment that do apply to areas outside of no shoot areas. No Shoot Areas addresses boundaries, but do not address neighbor problems. He urged the community to stay in contact with one another and be sensitive to each other. He suggested that if a neighbor has a special event coming up, they could notify their neighbors in advance. This proposed No Shoot Area will not solve every problem if it is adopted, but it will remove the threat from this community. He added that it makes sense not to allow shooting in the area. Commissioner Dean thanked everyone for attending the hearing. She noted that she has read a lot of input from residents in the area and the majority support a No Shoot Area and only two are opposed, and one of those is Mr. Nelson who lives outside the proposed No Shoot Area. Tribal input is important to her, and their right to hunt is critical. She is satisfied knowing that public lands are not a part of the proposed No Shoot Area. Residents in the area are concerned about the noise nuisance of firearm Page 6 Commissioners Meeting Minutes of May 22, 2017 discharge, but she noted that this noise issue has a component of physical threat. She added that residents may still hear gunfire in their community, but it should be some assurance knowing that it is not allowed in close proximity to their homes. Commissioner Sullivan moved to adopt ORDINANCE -NO. 01-0522-17 re: Establishment of Ocean Grove No Shooting Areas. Commissioner Dean seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. The meeting was recessed at 10:38 a.m. and reconvened at 10:46 a.m. with all three Commissioners present. COMMISSIONERS BRIEFING SESSION. The Commissioners reported on their meeting schedules, calendar coordination and miscellaneous items. Calendar Coordination: Below is a list of the upcoming meetings and events the Commissioners will be attending in the near future: • Administrative Staff luncheon • Port Townsend Senior High School Symposium • Security Services Northwest meeting • Climate Action Committee meeting • Homeward Bound meeting • Pleasant Harbor Master Planned Resort site visit • Solid Waste Advisory Committee meeting • Legislative Steering Committee (LSC) teleconference • Central Services Director interviews • Olympic Consortium Board meeting Miscellaneous Items: • Port Ludlow Village Voice; new editor • LSC Letter re: Ballot boxes The meeting was recessed at 11:51 a.m. and reconvened at 1:32 p.m. with all three Commissioners present. COUNTYADMINISTR,4TOR BRIEFING SESSION: County Administrator Philip Morley reviewed the following with the Board. Calendar Coordination — Continued: • Energy Luncheon Miscellaneous Items — Continued: • Parade marches Page 7 Commissioners Meeting Minutes of May 22, 2017 • County Administrator's review; Commissioners agreed they need to start the process • Washington Counties Risk Pool (WCRP); County Administrator Morley briefed the Board on a recent annual visit by Jill Lowe of WCRP • Brinnon Community Center/Hotel; many things are in need of repair/replacement • Tri -Area Community Center and OlyCAP funding • Potential Housing Levy • AV Capture All; update on progress • Website design; update on progress • Social Media; looking into creating policy, retaining information and workload • Jefferson County Facebook page; the County Administrator reviewed the page, not owned or operated by Jefferson County, to see if changes he requested had been made • Ocean Grove No Shoot Area; debriefing • BoomFest; staff requesting update • Letter received re: DNR alternatives; Marbeled Murrelet and sustainable harvest • Unfunded mandates; Commissioners discussed sending a coordinated letter to newspapers regarding the 1% cap creating stress on counties NOTICE OFADJOURNMENT: Commissioner Sullivan moved to adjourn the meeting at 3:03 p.m. until the next regular meeting or special meeting as properly noticed. Commissioner Dean seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. P ATTEST: Old, Ae- ICarolyn ry, CMC -7, Deputy Clerk of the Board JEFFERSON COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS q k Kathleen Kler, Chair �XCcrd-��I Leh � David Sullivan, Member Kate ean, Member Page 8 30""" �y � �� HNINGRECORD From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Dear County Commissioners, Nancy Craig <nancycraig7@gmail.com> Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:17 AM jeffbocc Daniel Nasman Support for no -shooting zone in Ocean Grove I am writing to support the designation of a no -shooting zone for my neighborhood of Ocean Grove. Due to my work schedule I am unable to attend the upcoming public meeting and discussion on May 22, 2017. I purchased my home at 182 Huntingford Street in May 2016, too late to have signed the original petition although I would have done so without hesitation. Ocean Grove is a quiet neighborhood where many people walk daily along our streets and community owned green spaces. Unlike many rural area neighborhoods, and thanks to our HOA Manager and Board, many owners in Ocean Grove know one another through multiple annual gatherings and meetings. It's a beautiful (and did I say quiet?) neighborhood and it would be shame if shooting a gun were an accepted way of life in Ocean Grove. I ask that you vote in support of a no -shooting zone in Ocean Grove for the safety and peace of mind of our residents. Thank you, Nancy Craig, RN 182 Huntingford St. Port Townsend, WA 98368 Registered voter, Jefferson County, WA Sent from my iPad JOHN C O N S I D I NING RECORD �i May 2, 2017 RE: Consideration of 'No Firing zone' for Ocean Grove M►` 0, "ui.U,,�7 L To Whom it may Concern: My wife and I have been Ocean Grove residents since 1994, and since that time have seen a vast amount of neighborhood growth. More and more, the sounds of near -by gunfire alarm us. We no longer live in a rural area. This is a thriving neighborhood with many children and pets often outdoors with their parents. We MUST have a 'no fire zone' for our mutual protection. It is severely overdue. Please protect our families. Thank you in advance, Jahn & Astrid Considine 5200 Cape George Rd. Port Townsend, WA 98368 5200 Cape George Rd., PortTownsend, WA 98368 phone: (360) 379-8789 fax: (360) 379-9026 c-Pf '-*1)-7 jeffbocc From: Stephanie Morrell <stephmorrellpt@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:04 AM To: jeffbocc Subject: Public comment re: Ocean Grove As owners of undeveloped Lots 10 and 11 in Ocean Grove, we are in support of the proposed no shooting zones in the Ocean Grove neighborhood. Stephanie and Sid Morrell r..'� ` J.2 HEARING From: George Esquiro <ptstjohn@msn.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:39 PM To: jeffbocc Subject: Ocean Grove No Shooting Zone I support a no shooting zone in our neighborhood. I understand that having a no shooting there would not interfere with my right to use a firearm to protect my family or property. I think it is wise to not allow target practice or recreational shooting anywhere there is a dense population such as our neighborhood. Thank you for your time and consideration of this matter. Sincerely, George Esquiro Ocean Grove Association Sent from my Whone <<.�``` HEARING From: Joe Gondar <joegondar@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:32 AM To: jeffbocc Subject: Ocean Grove no -shooting zone TO; Board of Commissioners, Jefferson County, WA I'm a resident of Ocean Grove and strongly support the proposal to make the Ocean Grove neighborhood a no -shooting zone. Joseph Gondar 162 Becker Street Port Townsend WA 1 "�`�,,,� HEARING zcm, .Keo« From: Wanda Synnestvedt <wandasynn@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:15 AM To: jeffbocc Subject: No Shooting Designation for Ocean Grove There seems to be no reason to allow shooting in a residential area such as ours. There are families with children and many people with dogs and cats. Many of us walk the area. One example regarding the shooting of firearms in our neighborhood occurred when our neighbor (who has a child) and ourselves heard shots quite close to our houses. My husband went to investigate and found a man shooting a hand gun into the bank of a vacant lot directly below our house. Essentially aiming in the direction of our houses. When my husband asked him to stop, the man did quit - at that time - but insisted that he had a right to shoot his gun off "around here". We did call the Sheriffs office but were told that we lived in an area that allowed people to shoot their firearms. Since there is a gun range in Jefferson County there seems to be no logical reason to allow random shooting in a residential neighborhood such as ours. Sincerely, Wanda Synnestvedt Re: Ocean Grove: Email to Commissioners re No Shooting Designation 1 message Wanda Synnestvedt <wandasynn@gmail.com> To: Daniel Nasman <dnasman @outlook.com> Hi Dan, Greg and I are both unable to come to the Thanks for getting this going. Fri, May 19, 2017 at 8:14 AM copy of the email that i am sending. There seems to be no reason to allow she s ours. There are families with children and many people with dogs and cats. Many o One example regarding the shooting of fii rred when our neighbor (who has a child) and ourselves heard shots quite close to our t—uauo. way iivauanu went to investigate and found a man shooting a hand gun into the bank of a vacant lot directly below our house. Essentially aiming in the direction of our houses. When my husband asked him to stop, the man did quit - at that time - but insisted that he had a right to shoot his gun off "around here". We did call the Sheriff's office but were told that we lived in an area that allowed people to shoot their firearms. Since there is a gun range in Jefferson County there seems to be no logical reason to allow random shooting in a residential neighborhood such as ours. Sincerely, Wanda Synnestvedt (Quoted text hidden] CGI �C'D 6 -1q -j1 HEARING RECORD jeffbocc *From: R K <rickathy37@msn.com> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:24 PM To: jeffbocc Subject: Ocean Grove No -Shooting Zone • Dear County Commissioners, My name is Rick Nelson and I live at 31 Combs Place, a 5 -acre parcel adjacent to/bordering on Ocean Grove. I've lived in the Ocean Grove area and have owned property in the Ocean Grove Community since 1987. One of the reasons I bought property in the county is so that I could shoot on my own property. I have shot responsibly and legally on this property since 1987. I am opposed to the no -shooting zone being proposed for the Ocean Grove community. Respectfully, Rick Nelson 1 HEARING RECORD 01 From: Beth <bethhutmacher@live.com> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:54 PM To: jeffbocc Subject: No Shooting Zones for Ocean Grove Neighborhood Commissioners, As a 16 -year resident of Ocean Grove neighborhood I strongly support our Association's petition to establish no - shooting areas in the plats of Ocean Grove Estates. I heard the backyard shooting in 2014 that precipitated this petition, and I recall the fear I felt. The gunfire was unsettlingly close, just down the hill from my home. I had no idea that anyone could even fire a gun in a neighborhood. We are not the old west. If someone wants to practice firing their gun it seems reasonable to think they should do that at an established range and not in this quiet neighborhood of 80 homes. Neighborhoods are for people, not for guns, and I ask the commissioners to do the right thing and preserve the peace, quiet and safety of this neighborhood. Thank you, Beth Hutmacher 162 Becker St. .Port Townsend, WA 98368 360-385-7977 • 1 .,f,oc< HEARING RECOR *From: Tim Cullinan <tcullinan@pnptc.org> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:16 PM To: jeffbocc Subject: Ocean Grove no shooting areas; Tribal comments Attachments: Ocean Grove no shooting areas 05_19_2017.docx The Point No Point Treaty Council submits the attached letter for the record of public comment regarding the proposed Jefferson County ordinance to establish the Ocean Grove No Shooting Areas. Tim Cullinan Wildlife Program Manager Point No Point Treaty Council 19472 Powder Hill Place NE, Suite 210 Poulsbo, WA 98370 360-731-8674 tcullinan@pnptc.org Pi 1 L May 19, 2017 Point No Point Treaty Council Port Gamble S'Klallam • Jamestown S'Klallam Jefferson County Board of County Commissioners P.O. Box 1220 Port Townsend, WA 98368 RE: Proposed Establishment of Ocean Grove No Shooting Areas in Jefferson County Dear Commissioners, The Point No Point Treaty Council (PNPTC) is writing in response to your request for comments on your proposal to establish two no shooting areas in the Ocean Grove subdivisions near Discovery Bay, in Jefferson County. We appreciate your effort to solicit Tribal input on the proposal. The PNPTC is a natural resource management organization formed in 1974 to serve the Port Gamble S'Klallam and Jamestown S'Klallam Tribes to fulfill the requirements placed upon them by the U.S. Supreme Court in U.S. v. Washington (the "Boldt Decision"). The Treaty Council assists these Tribes in protecting and exercising their rights reserved in the 1855 Treaty of Point No Point, and implements goals set by member Tribes for resource conservation, management, and the protection of Treaty Rights. The Point No Point Treaty Council neither supports nor opposes the proposed establishment of the Ocean Grove no Shooting Areas. Following consultation with our member Tribes, we hold a neutral position, provided that the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners limits the extent of the no shooting areas to the boundaries depicted in Attachment A of the draft ordinance, posted at httn://www.co.iefferson.wa.us/PDF/OceanGroveNoShootinvOrd/DraftOrdinance.ndf. We are opposed, however, to any expansion of the no shooting areas into nearby public lands, particularly into the state forest trust lands north and east of the parcels outlined in the draft ordinance. In the 1855 Treaty of Point No Point the S'Klallam Tribes reserved their pre-existing right to hunt and gather on open and unclaimed land. North and east of the proposed no shooting areas is a 240 -acre parcel of state land managed by the Washington Department of Natural Resources (DNR) (Figure 1). That parcel fits the definition of "open and unclaimed land." Any attempt to restrict hunting by the S'Klallam Tribes in that parcel runs the risk of violating their treaty rights to hunt. Consequently, we oppose any action to expand the no shooting zones into the nearby DNR -managed state land. S'Klallam hunters are regulated under the hunting ordinances and annual hunting regulations of . their respective Tribes. Both the Jamestown S'Klallam and Port Gamble S'Klallam Tribes have ordinances designed to protect public safety during the hunting season. For example, both Tribes 9 prohibit shooting from, across, or along public roads, or shooting from a vehicle. Hunting is restricted to daylight hours only. Furthermore, each Tribe has the authority to close any area to hunting at any time. If there are public safety concerns regarding S'Klallam hunting on open and unclaimed lands in close proximity to populated areas, we are willing to work with local homeowners' associations and with Jefferson County to address those concerns and to adopt measures to ensure public safety. We prefer to regulate the timing, location, and scope of hunting under Tribal regulations, rather than under civil ordinances that may impinge on Treaty rights. Thank you for your invitation to comment on this proposed ordinance. Sincerely, Timothy P. Cullinan Wildlife Program Manager Cc: Scott Chitwood, Josh Wisniewski Figure 1. Location of proposed no shooting areas and nearby state land •From: Sent: r: 9 -ax` "",5 HEARING RECORD DAVID NELSON <jaid88@msn.com> Saturday, May 20, 2017 7:48 AM To: jeffbocc Subject: Shooting in Ocean Grove We are in support of not shooting in the community. David & Janet Nelson HFAPINr,. CF •From: Sean Stehura <seanfromnature@hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:36 AM To: jeffbocc Subject: Ocean Grove No Shoot Zone L • I am a board member of the Ocean Grove Community. I support the No Shoot Zone for Ocean Grove. Please approve our petition. Thank You Sean Stehura 12 Becker St Port Townsend, Wa. 1 Worn: Sent: To: Subject: County Commissioners, HEARING RECORD Aaron McComas <aaron_mccomas@yahoo.com> Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:04 PM jeffbocc Ocean Grove proposed no shooting zone concerns I will be unable to attend the meeting on Monday, May 22nd, but wanted to express my concern about the proposed no shooting zone(s) in the Ocean Grove community. My main concern isn't that Ocean Grove become a no shooting zone, but how this could negatively impact my own 10+ acre parcel adjacent to Ocean Grove #2, and the 5 acre lots that are across from Kruse Street to the east. My concern is that on those significantly larger lots, even with a 15' high dirt berm and being heavily forested, that any discharge of a firearm will not satisfy the residents of neighboring Ocean Grove because of the inherent noise. As such, I would like to hear some assurances that this is not primarily a noise / nuisance complaint and concern but is truly about firearm safety and that the safe and legal use of firearms on the adjacent, larger lots will not be impinged upon should this no shooting zone be created at Ocean Grove. *Respectfully, Aaron McComas 363 Chase Road 0 HEARING RECORD 1 From: Lon Zimmerman <zimco@gci.net> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 10:02 PM To: Daniel Nasman Cc: jeffbocc Subject: Re: Ocean Grove: Email to Commissioners re No Shooting Designation HI DAN, JOAN AND I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING. • WE DO HOWEVER WISH TO VOICE OUR OPINION THAT THERE SHOULD BE A NO SHOOTING ZONE THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, NO FIREARMS SHOULD BE DISHCHARGED ANYWHERE NEAR A RESIDENTIAL AREA. ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS WHEN HIKING THE TRAIL DOWN TO THE OCEAN, I HAVE HEARD GUN SHOTS COMING FROM ABOVE. IT IS FRIGHTENING TO IMAGINE WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN. MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN AND PETS HIKE THE TRAIL AT ALL TIMES, NO ONE SHOULD BE SHOOTING ANYWHERE IN THE VICINITY OF PEOPLE HIKING THAT TRAIL. THANKYOU LON ZIMMERMAN 40 COMBS STREET PORT TOWNSEND ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Nasman" <dnasman@outlook.com> To: "Daniel Nasman" <dnasman@outlook.com> Cc: Sent: Fri, 19 May 2017 02:08:29 +0000 Subject: Ocean Grove: Email to Commissioners re No Shooting Designation To Ocean Grove Resident Owners I'm hopeful that we can get a good turnout for the hearing on our No Shooting designation for Ocean Grove. If you can't make it to the hearing on Monday, May 22nd at 10 AM in the County Courthouse consider sending an email statement for the record. It should be sent to jeffbocc@co.jefferson.wa.us (clicking on the address should open an addressed email on your computer). Others have already done so. Send me a copy, if you will, for the record so that I can refer to the content on Monday. 1 -You can read the information that Philip Morley, county administrator, sent to the commissioners setting the hearing here 0 Thanks for your interest. Dan Sent from Mail for Windows 10 • 0 HEARING RECORD leffbocc From: Noreen Parks <noreen.parks@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 12:12 PM To: jeffbocc Cc: Dan Nasman; Sean; Tom Lemmons Subject: OCEAN GROVE NO -SHOOTING ZONE I am an Ocean Grove community member, writing to urge that the no -shooting zone ( NSZ) be declared for our community. I will be out of town tomorrow and unable to attend the hearing I appreciate that the sheriff's department kept records of reported gunfire in our area. I had called on a number of occasions a few years ago, but was told that without the NSZ, there was nothing the authorities could do. If I had known that data was being collected, I would have called far more often, for I have been bothered by gunfire frequently. A great deal of this gunshot disturbance originates from a location below Combs St., where an OG property owner and resident has a target practice area. His activity has alarmed folks who walk the Ocean Grove bluff trail as well as the residents living in the blocks above his house. We know who the perpetrator is, but it's not clear from the map posted on your website this shooting area is included. If there is gunfire beyond the designated boundary, due ,whether to a OG community member, will this be covered by the ban? And/or, can you adjust the boundary to cover this area? Our little community is relatively quiet and peaceful, so gun noise is startling and upsetting. We have military veterans living here and others who have been exposed to gun -inflicted crime, even murders. We want to live in peace without gun noise nearby. Thank you for your efforts on this issue. Sincerely, Noreen Parks 52 Becker St. 379-4007 • 1 Cc -C,> - 1'effbocc ' *From: Alla Cooper <allancoope@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 5:38 PM To: jeffbocc Subject: Ocean Grove Residents Dear Sir - Please do not allow hunters to shoot their guns in our neighborhoods. We are peace loving citizens who treasure the quiet and solitude of our beautiful woods. Thank you! - Allan Cooper & Richard Cooper, 370 Beckett Point Road P.T. • is HEARING RECORD *From: Cha /dace Mangold <candacecm@msn.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:52 AM To: Chris Mangold; Daniel Nasman;jeffbocc Subject: Re: No shooting designation for Ocean Grove Hello, I'm writing in support of the no shooting designation for the Ocean Grove Estates. We reside at 112 Swanson Avenue within the Ocean Grove community. We moved here a year ago and have experienced the gunfire noise at various times. Saturday night at 9 p.m. it went on for over an hour making it very difficult to get my two toddlers to remain sleeping peacefully. The Ocean Grove community is far too densely populated to allow for shooting on personal property. We used to reside in Seabeck where shooting was a daily occurrence. While most people were conscientious about it, others were not. It got to the point where stray bullets were hitting homes and injuring residents. I don't want to see this happen within Ocean Grove. My husband, Christopher Mangold, and I stand in support of the no shooting designation for Ocean Grove. Please contact me with any questions. Warm regards, Candace and Christopher Mangold 206-755-4008 112 Swanson Avenue, Port Townsend 98368 • c<it's�cr. i�� 5.�2I1 e1,,a , HEARNG RECORD From: Evan Harrison <evanharrison@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 9:18 AM To: Daniel Nasman; jeffbocc Subject: Re: Ocean Grove: Email to Commissioners re No Shooting Designation To Whom it May Concern, I am writing on behalf of a request for community input to be heard today, regarding a proposed no -shooting zone established in the Ocean Grove Neighborhood. Since I am unable to attend, please let this letter serve as my statement in my absence. I absolutely support such an ordinance as proposed, since my household I feel is moderately affected. For instance, there have been days throughout this past year, where we have heard nearby firearms reports (shooting,) as if the shooter empties out magazine after magazine of ammunition for an hour or two, every other day it seems. If we wanted to live next to a designated shooting area, we would have moved closer to the established shooting range! It is preposterous to have our idyllic peaceful community disrupted by the sharp "pop pop pop / bang bang bang" noises occurring year round. It does not make any sense at all to have such target practice permissible and occurring in such close proximity to our neighborhood community. Not only is the noise disruptive, but so is now the "wondering," and questioning for our own personal safety when hiking the Ocean Grove bluff recreation trail, discussing always about our perceived safety, and about the fear of any potential stray bullets. Please add our household to the names in support of an ordinance preventing home target shooting practice ranges in our peaceful neighborhood. Thank you, and Sincerely, Evan & I-Kwoan Harrison, 270 Beckett Point Road Port Townsend WA On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Daniel Nasman <dnasmanAoutlook.com> wrote: To Ocean Grove Resident Owners I'm hopeful that we can get a good turnout for the hearing on our No Shooting designation for Ocean Grove. If you can't make it to the hearing on Monday, May 22nd at 10 AM in the County Courthouse consider sending an email statement for the record. It should be sent to jeffboccAco.iefferson.wa.us (clicking on the address should open an addressed email on your computer). Others have already done so. Send me a copy, if you will, for the record so that I can refer to the content on Monday. You can read the information that Philip Morley, county administrator, sent to the commissioners setting the hearing here Thanks for your interest. Dan Sent from Mail for Windows 10 CC' .c�Ir,�5 as � j efeocc ro,�tL , HEARING RECORD From: Michael Burchard <burchard51@gmai1.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 9:52 AM To: jeffbocc Subject: No Shooting Zone Greeting Jefferson Co. Commissioner's, Since I'll be unable to attend this morning hearing on the Ocean Groves no shooting zone proposal, I would like to make a comment on about expanding the the no shooting zone further south down Cape George road all the way to Discovery Bay Golf course area. We have a piece of property on Lane de Chantal that we are trying to sell and the next door neighbor has a personal shooting area on the other side of our fence. It's a problem on several levels, he's shooting at steel plated targets, not into a dirt bank. Bottom line for us and most of the other neighbors is that this seems to be somewhat of a problem being that firing at steel pate's, leads to a lot of ricocheting bullets. Because of more people moving in to the area and if your going to make a no shooting zone it would be nice to see it expanded further south down Cape George road. That way you won't have to revisit this problem later on. Thank you for your time, Michael Burchard burchard5l@gmail.com