HomeMy WebLinkAboutM092401Distrid No. 1 Commissioner: Dan Tilterness County Administrator: Charles Saddler
Distrid No. 2 Commissioner: Glen Huntingford Deputy County Administrator: David Goldsmith
Distrid No. 3 Commissioner: Richard Wojt Deputy County Administrator: Gary Rowe
Clerk of the Board: Lorna Delaney
MINUTES
Week of September 24, 2001
The Chairman called the meeting to order at the appointed time. Commissioner Richard Wojt
and Commissioner Dan Titterness were both present.
CO UNTY ADMINISTRATOR BRIEFING SESSION: County Administrator Charles
Saddler advised that a NIMDA virus shut down the County computer system for 2 days. Information
Services staff is trying to find out how the virus came into the County. There was notice of the virus and
precautions were taken for the e-mail system, but the virus came in through an "html" document. No data
was lost, but the virus hit the system hard. There will be policy changes to deal with computer viruses and
how to handle recovery. The current emphasis is to determine how the virus entered the County system and
to make sure our policies are updated to deal with this type of event in the future.
Commissioner Wojt asked about the procedures in the Blue Book for establishing sub-area planning
committees. People interested in being on the committee can respond to a newspaper advertisement or
attend the first meeting and ask to be put on committee. Commissioner Titterness said that the Blue Book
indicates that people who attend the first meeting need to be able to make a commitment to be part of the
committee. Discussion continued about the rules in the Blue Book and how the first meeting will be handled.
Commissioner Titterness advised that the Board needs to give the Planning Commission clear direction
regarding their review of the Brinnon Sub-Area Plan. He feels the Planning Commission needs to review the
plan and make suggestions for language changes or ask for more information, but that they should not
remand anything back to the Sub-Area Planning Group. Tom McNerny, Chair of the Planning Commission,
advised that they have 3 meetings scheduled to review the Brinnon Sub-Area Plan. The Planning
Commission will send recommendations back to the Sub-Area Planning Group only at the Board's request.
Discussion ensued about the e-mail communication between Planning Commission members and if this type
of correspondence is part of the public record.
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PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD: The only comments made were regarding Planning
Commission hearings and how to handle questions from the public or the Planning Commission members in
that format.
APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA: Commissioner Wojt
moved to adopt and approve all of the items on the Consent Agenda as presented. Commissioner Titterness
seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote.
1. RESOLUTION NO. 79-01 re: Adopting the Cost Allocation Plan for Fiscal Years 2001 and 2002
2. RESOLUTION NO. 80-01 re: Notice of Intention to Sell Surplus County Property
3. AGREEMENT 01-02 re: School Nurse Corps Programs in Jefferson County Public Schools;
Jefferson County Health and Human Services; Olympic Educational Services District #114 (OESD)
4. CALL FOR BIDS re: South Discovery Road/R.R. Bridge Overcrossing Replacement, CS1176; Bids
Accepted until 10:00 a.m., Monday, October 22, 2001 and opened and read publicly shortly
thereafter in the County Commissioners' Chambers
5. QUIT CLAIM DEED re: Right-of-Way Acquisition for Larry Scott Trail; Vacated Lillian Street;
Jefferson County Public Works; Sharon McKenzie
6. Request for Waiver of County Transfer Station Tipping Fee for Volunteers Participating in an
Organized Clean-up of a Specific Site in Dabob Bay, October 20 or 21,2001; Washington State
Department of Natural Resources
7. Appoint Person to Serve a Three (3) Year Term on the Substance Abuse Services Advisory Board;
Term Expire 9/24/04; Jerome Schnell
HEARING re: Proposed Ordinance Repealing and Replacing the Jefferson County Road
Vacation Ordinances No. 07-0809-99, No. 01-0102-96, and No. 06-0615-92: Will Butterfield, Public
Works, advised that a workshop was conducted on September 4, 2001 with the Board, the Department of
Community Development, Public Works, and the Prosecuting Attorney to evaluate the Class C right-of-way
vacation process. Following the workshop, the Board directed that this hearing be advertised. The proposed
ordinance includes the elimination of a vacation process for Class C rights-of-way and the clarification of
compensation for Class A and B right-of-way vacations. The Public Works Department is recommending the
elimination of the Class C right-of-way vacation process and, for the Class A and B vacations, that the
petitioner, at their own expense, obtain an objective fair market appraisal of the land they want vacated. Will
Butterfield explained that Class C rights-of-way occur in plats that were approved before 1904 when the
right-of-way was not opened for use within 5 years of plat approval. The public right to use these rights-of-
way was extinguished by law. This ordinance will eliminate any County process for vacation of Class C
rights-of-way. David Alvarez, Deputy Prosecuting Attorney, reiterated that this ordinance only pertains to
the County's rights regarding Class C rights-of-way. Individual rights are not affected by this change in the
ordinance.
Guy Rudolph pointed out that there are several plats in the Tri Area approved before 1904. He asked what
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will happen to these roads if the ordinance is passed? Chairman Huntingford answered that, in the current
process, the County endeavored to bring property owners together to discuss the issues. The law says that
the County has no interest in these rights-of-way if they were not opened in the specified time frame.
Individuals have easement rights, but the County doesn't.
David Alvarez advised that the landowners in these plats have the right to ingress and egress to their
property, but the County doesn't have any right to open a public road in the plat. Private easements are still
applicable, as well as established private roads.
Gordon Papritz asked if anyone can close a road? David Alvarez advised that this statute has been in effect
since 1889.
The conversation turned to the roads in Glen Cove. Commissioner Titterness explained that the developer, in
the case of Fredericks Street, developed the road right-of-way to a certain standard and then the County took
over.
Commissioner Wojt added that the plat still exists and there are private roads in the plat. Kala Point is the
same type of plat. County Administrator Charles Saddler explained how the situation is the same for these
old plats.
David Alvarez advised that the process the County had for "statutory vacations" (Class C rights-of-way) has
led to litigation. People had the misconception that, when they went through the statutory vacation process,
they had clear title to the right-of-way adjacent to their property, which is not the case.
Commissioner Titterness pointed out that the intent of this ordinance amendment is to clarify the legislation
and make it more accurately represent what has really happened. Charles Saddler added that in the past the
County went on record (made a public declaration) by the Class C process which said that the County has no
interest in a particular section of right-of-way. There are other processes to make a private road into a public
road.
The Chairman opened the public hearing.
Russell Trask, said there is a problem with this type of vacation in the Glen Cove area and asked what
process is available to get the County involved in taking control of one of the roads? Julian Street is partially
paved and he can't find when it was paved, who paved it, and why it was never paved the length of the entire
road.
Will Butterfield explained that property owners can petition the County to make a private road into a County
road. The petitioner is required to provide the deeds to the right-of-way and the roadway needs to be built to
County road standards. At that point it can be turned over to the County to maintain.
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Russell Trask asked why the petitioner has to be the person to obtain easements from adjacent property
owners and pay to bring the road up to County standards? There are already water and power easements on
Julian Street, but no one wants to develop them until it is a County road. Circumstances have changed in the
County over the past 100 years because of the pattern of development and a law from 1889 doesn't make
sense any longer.
Commissioner Wojt noted that in Kala Point or Port Ludlow, there are several plats with private roads. The
owner of the subdivision has the right to decide if those roads will be private when a plat is developed. If the
owner wants a road to be a County road, there is a process for giving the road to the County.
Bud Hay, Glen Cove, asked why the deeds don't show that the property owner owns the right-of-way if it
was never opened and it reverted back to them? It seems that by default the County would own the roads.
Dave Kleman, asked how people will be kept from building in the rights-of-way if the County has no control
over them? A permit is required to build a road on private property, but if a property owner wants to build a
road on a statutorily vacated right-of-way, a permit isn't required. Commissioner Wojt reiterated that these
right-of-ways exist as private roads in a private plat. The property owners in the plat have a right to use the
road. The County has no rights involving the road.
Dave Kleman asked if these statutorily vacated rights-of-way can be monitored so that they will meet some
kind of road standards if they are developed in the future? He asked why another ordinance is being
proposed when the County hasn't had any interest or rights regarding these rights-of-way for many years?
David Alvarez answered that the ordinance is to clarify that the County has no interest in statutorily vacated
rights-of-way. Commissioner Titterness stated that a statutorily vacated right-of-way is a private road just
like a driveway except there may be more than one owner. Dave Kleman noted that a property owners needs
to get a permit to build a driveway.
Bud Hay, asked if property owners adjacent to statutorily vacated rights-of-way pay taxes on undeveloped
roads? Charles Saddler explained that property owners in a plat don't own the rights-of-way. The right of
way is shown on the plat. The Assessor's Office has advised that lots and statutorily vacated rights-of-way
are identified on plat maps. Commissioner Titterness said that the value of a lot includes the rights-of-way
even though it is not part of the legal description. The right-of-way belongs to the plat.
Richard Coulter, explained that there is a right-of-way he would like vacated on his property, can he still do
it? Chairman Huntingford explained that this ordinance amendment only changes the "statutory vacation"
(Class C) process in the previous ordinance and the vacation process for Class A and B road vacations are
still allowed.
Michael Regan, asked if this ordinance will affect the Class A and B road vacation process? Will Butterfield
replied that the Class A and B road vacation processes are not affected. David Alvarez added that the only
plats affected were platted before 1904.
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Bud Hay, repeated his question for Assessor Jack Westerman who also attended this hearing. If the statutory
rights-of-way are not removed from a plat, and adjoining property owners are not paying taxes on those
rights-of-way, wouldn't the County be the property owner?
Jack Westerman, Assessor, explained that the sale of a lot establishes its value. The lot is sold as is and if the
right-of-way is developed, it is reflected in the value of the lot. The plat survey map indicates that the streets
and alleys are dedicated to the public and taxes are not paid on them. In some cases, legal descriptions were
changed for properties adjacent to statutorily vacated rights-of-way and the value was added to the adjacent
lot. The title companies may not have picked up the statutory vacations in their reports. Jack Westerman
added that it isn't that the County wants to do this, the Legislature and the Courts have said these rights-of-
way are automatically vacated.
David Alvarez stated that the fact that the "public" right is extinguished doesn't mean that the private owners
don't have an easement. The County has no right to give the property to anyone.
Dave Kleman, asked the difference between a Class A, B, and C vacation. David Alvarez stated that a Class
A vacation has been improved, the Class B vacation hasn't been improved, and a Class C vacation only
applies in older plats before 1904. He asked what he has to do to vacate a statutorily vacated right-of-way?
Will Butterfield explained that if this ordinance goes forward the County wouldn't have any say about the
right-of-way. The property owner can go for a quiet title through Superior Court, which is an involved
process, but is much more certain because an Order from a Superior Court Judge confirming quiet title
would be good "against the world."
The Chair closed the hearing.
Commissioner Titterness moved to adopt ORDINANCE NO. 05-0924-01 repealing and replacing the
Jefferson County Road Vacation Ordinances No. 07-0809-99, No. 01-0102-96, and No. 06-0615-92.
Commissioner Wojt seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote.
The Board interviewed Karen Sickel who is interested in serving on the Jefferson County
Noxious Weed Control Board Representing District #5 from 11:00-11:14 a.m.
Appointment to Jefferson County Noxious Weed Control Board: Commissioner Titterness
moved to appoint Karen Sickel to the Jefferson County Noxious Weed Control Board to represent Weed
Board District No. 5. Her term will expire on September 24, 2005. Commissioner Wojt seconded the
motion which carried by a unanimous vote.
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DISCUSSION re: Selection of the Tri Area Planning Group: Associate Planner Randy
Kline explained that the deadline for applications was September 14. Fifteen applications were received
before the deadline and 5 more came in after the 14th. Three of the people who submitted late letters had
spoken to staff or the Commissioners about their interest in the committee before the deadline. Staff plans to
schedule a meeting on October 2 to brief the applicants about the time commitment for the group. Staff can
accommodate 20 people on the committee, if necessary.
Commissioner Wojt stated that the Blue Book indicates that people who attend the first meeting and show an
interest in being on the committee can also be considered. Randy Kline suggested that if that happens and
there are too many people, the people at the meeting will need to make a recommendation to the Board on
what to do.
Commissioner Titterness expressed concern about the Blue Book specifying a maximum of 15 members.
His feelings are that the appointment of the members will have to be worked out the first meeting. Chairman
Huntingford, as the 2nd District Commissioner, will open the meeting to begin the process, but it is ultimately
up to the people in attendance to determine the membership of the committee. Chairman Huntingford added
that he wants to see a wide variety of representatives (residents, business owners, people with children in
school) on the committee.
The Board agreed that 15 members is sufficient for a good working group. They stressed the importance of
an open process with other people being able to participate.
A1 Scalf stated that Mark Personius is the consultant and Randy Kline is the lead planner on the project.
Other staff will help as needed. Randy Kline explained that at the meeting on October 2, he has 3 goals in
mind:
· To bring the participants up to speed on what has occurred and the expectations of the committee.
· To establish some ground rules on how the meeting will be governed.
· To come away with a list of 15 members.
Tom McNerny, Brinnon Sub-Area Planning Group, suggested that a professional or staff member needs to be
at the meetings to take minutes. Taping the meetings is also helpful. The Board agreed that the meetings be
taped and summary minutes be done.
HEARING re: Amending Traffic Ordinance No. 11-1214-98 Regulating Speed Limits:
Scott Kilmer, Public Works, reported that all 3 of these speed limit changes are proposed to raise speed limits
at the request of the public: 1) Thorndyke Road up to Bridgehaven Community; 2) Teal Lake Road from the
Port Ludlow Development to the development on south end of the road and; 3) Summerville Road, a small
local access road, to make it 25 mph which is the same speed as other roads in the area.
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The 85th percentile speed is one of the criteria reviewed to determine if the speed limit change is warranted.
1) Thorndyke Road - the 85th percentile is 49 mph and the recommendation is to raise the speed
limit to 40 mph from the currently posted speed of 30 mph.
2) Teal Lake Road - the current speed is 25 mph, with the 85th percentile speed of 36.4 mph.
The current roadway width of 25 feet meets the criteria for 35 mph. There are two curves on
this road that would require warning signs. The Public Works Department recommends
increasing the speed to 35 mph and installing warning signs.
3) Summerville Road - the 85th percentile is 26 mph. One curve needs a warning sign and the
recommendation is to increase the speed limit from 20 mph to 25 mph for entire length.
The Sheriff's Office has reviewed the suggested changes and indicated they are fine. No other comments
were received.
The Chair opened the public hearing. Hearing no comments for or against the proposed ordinance
amendment, Commissioner Titterness moved to approve ORDINANCE NO. 06-0924-01 amending Traffic
Ordinance No. 11-1214-98 regulating speed limits. Commissioner Wojt seconded the motion which carried
by a unanimous vote.
Central Services re: Financial Condition Report and Budget Forecast: Deputy County
Administrator Gary Rowe, reviewed a report on the financial condition of the County based on criteria
issued by the ICMA {,International City/County Management Association.) Approximately 30 indicators
were used to assess the overall health of the County. The County is in fairly good financial condition and
doesn't have a lot of debt. He then reviewed a revenue and expenditure forecast.
The meeting was recessed at the end of the scheduled business and reconvened each day for
the preliminary budget meetings per the attached scheduled. All three Board members were present for these
meetings.
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PRELIMINARY BUDGET ROUNDTABLES
SEPTEMBER 2001
Various Locations
REVISED: SEPTEMBER 24, 2001
Tuesday: September 25, 2001
(First Floor Conference Room)
2:00 p.m. Treasurer (45 min.)
3:00 p.m. District Court (Y2 hr.)
3:30 p,m, Juvenile & Family Court Services
Juvenile Detention
4:00 p.m. Weed Control Board
(At WSU) (1 hr.)
Wednesday: September 26, 2001
9:00 a.m. Cooperative Extension
(At WSU)(1 Y2 Hfs)
10:45 a.m. Sheriff (At Sheriff's Office)
1:00 p.m.
(At DCD)
(2 hrs.)
Community Development
Administration
Permit Coordination
Development/Review
Building Division
Long Range Planning
Planning Commission
3:15 p.m.
(BOCC
Chambers)
Co. Administrator/Commissioners
Veterans Relief
Operating Transfers
Non-Departmental
Board of Equalization
Civil Service Commission
3:45 p.m. Assessor
4:00 p.m. Clerk
(1 hr.)
Superior Court
Law Library
Thursday: September 27, 2001
9:00 a.m. Health & Human Services
(At Health Dept,) Substance Abuse
(3 hrs.) Developmental Disabilities
Friday:
8:30 a.m.
(BOCC
Chambers)
(4 Hrs.)
September 28, 2001
Public Works
Cnty Pks. Improvement Fund
Parks & Recreation
H.J. Carroll Park
Brinnon and Quilcene
Flood Control
Flood/Stormwater
Special Projects
County Roads
Solid Waste
2:00 p.m. Community Services
(1 hr.) Public Safety
3:00 p.m.
Auditor
Auditor's O & M
Elections
3:15 a.m. Animal Services
(At Health Dept.)
Monday:
11:30 a.m.
(BOCC
Chambers)
October 1, 2001
Prosecuting Attorney
Coroner
Crime Victims Services
Drug Fund
1:30 p.m.
(3 ¥2 hrs.)
(bOCC
Chambers)
Central Services
Equipment Rental
Information Services
IDMS
Facilities Management
County Building
Construction and Renovation
Capital Improvement
Brinnon Facility
Distressed Co. Public Facilities
Conservation Futures
* Shows Department time confirmed October 3, 2001