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Home My WebLink AboutExhibit 22 Stamped 022 MLA18-00099 Staff Emails1 Shannen Cartmel From:Patty Charnas Sent:Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:04 PM To:John Fleming Cc:Emma Bolin; Shannen Cartmel; Donna Frostholm; Eric Kuzma Subject:RE: Thacker - Resubmittal As the DCD Director and designated stormwater administrator and Unified Development Code administrator, I already made a decision to support the project, as proposed. The revised stormwater plan does not change this decision. Please discontinue to debate this project as we will not bill the customer for opinions. Thank you very much for your attention to this matter. Patty Charnas - Director Jefferson County Department of Community Development 621 Sheridan Street, Port Townsend, WA 98368 Phone 360-379-4493 ~ Fax 360-379-4451 pcharnas@co.jefferson.wa.us From: Shannen Cartmel Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:46 AM To: Patty Charnas Cc: Emma Bolin Subject: FW: Thacker - Resubmittal From: Donna Frostholm <DFrostholm@co.jefferson.wa.us> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:30 AM To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us> Cc: John Fleming <JFleming@co.jefferson.wa.us> Subject: FW: Thacker - Resubmittal Shannen, Just as a follow up to the email below… Since the incorrect buffer width was put on the off-site wetland, you will need to request a revised site plan showing a 110-foot wetland buffer. Once the correct buffer width is shown for the off-site wetland to the east, an administrative wetland buffer reduction report or a CASP will be needed. Let me know if you have any questions. Donna From: Donna Frostholm Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:25 AM To: John Fleming <JFleming@co.jefferson.wa.us> Exhibit 22 - Page 1 of 7 2 Cc: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us> Subject: RE: Thacker - Resubmittal Hi John, You are correct – the wrong buffer table and number of points were used to get to an 80-foot wetland buffer. Based on the wetland rating form, the buffer should be 110 feet. Based on a brief glance at the information submitted in the 2019 ELS non-wetland report, I need to state: (1) I disagree that the on-site wet area is non-wetland and (2) I disagree with the extent of the off-site wetlands, as shown on the figures in that report. Based on a previous site visit I made earlier in the year, the distance of these two wetlands from the Thacker property and the size of the wetlands are not correctly shown on the ELS figures. Therefore, the off-site wetland ratings and buffer widths may or may not be correct. I realize there may be nothing you can do about this since the final decision to call the onsite wet area non-wetland was made by the DCD Director. However, the ELS information was referenced by Cleaver to prepare his stormwater report and may mean that an incorrect assessment of drainage assessment was made. Regards, Donna Frostholm, PWS Associate Planner/Wetlands Specialist Jefferson County DCD From: John Fleming Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 3:43 PM To: Donna Frostholm <DFrostholm@co.jefferson.wa.us> Cc: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us> Subject: FW: Thacker - Resubmittal Hi Donna: Please see the 2 attached .jpg files regarding the following questions: The attached revised wetland report (page 38 of a 96 page stormwater plan, and page 4 of the revised wetland report) states that a Category 3 wetland with Habitat value of 7 points has an 80 feet buffer to moderate impact land uses like SFR’s. I checked the JCC on the UDC link from DCD website, and see in Table 18.22.330(2) that the buffer to a delineated Cat 3 wetland with H=5 to 7 points is 110 feet. 1) Can you please confirm that the code that I am reading is the current version? 2) Can you please confirm the width of a buffer to the above situation (from a Cat 3 wetland, H=7, to an SFR development)? Thank you! John From: John Fleming Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 3:14 PM To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us> Subject: FW: Thacker - Resubmittal Hi Shannen: Exhibit 22 - Page 2 of 7 3 Just an FYI that today I received the attached revised stormwater plan from Jared Thacker’s engineer. I will continue the review after JPUD. Thank you, John From: Ron Cleaver Jr <rondcleaverjr@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 2:42 PM To: John Fleming <JFleming@co.jefferson.wa.us> Cc: Thacker, Jared M CIV PSNS&IMF, Code 1000 <jared.thacker@navy.mil> Subject: Thacker - Resubmittal Hi John, Please accept the attachments that have incorporated critical area information from a report prepared by Ecological Land Services and the revisions you requested. Thanks, Ron Exhibit 22 - Page 3 of 7 1 Shannen Cartmel From:John Fleming Sent:Friday, May 10, 2019 3:00 PM To:Shannen Cartmel Cc:Susan Porto Subject:RE: Thacker MLA18-00099 Attachments:BMP T5.30 -65% replant -pond to east.pdf Hi Shannen: I have resumed my review of the pending stormwater site plan. I communicated with the stormwater system designer, Ron Cleaver PE. I am waiting for his response to some questions / request for clarifications. In the mean-time, fyi, it appears that just to the east of the subject parcel, there is a pond, as shown on the attached 2005 aerial. I do not know if it is attached to a fish bearing stream, or its applicable buffer / setback to proposed developments. Thank you, John John Fleming PE Engineer III Jefferson County Public Works 623 Sheridan St Port Townsend, WA 98368 360-385-9217 jfleming@co.jefferson.wa.us All e-mail sent to this address has been received by the Jefferson County e-mail system and is therefore subject to the Public Records Act, a state law found at RCW 42.56. Under the Public Records law the County must release this e-mail and its contents to any person who asks to obtain a copy (or for inspection) of this e- mail unless it is also exempt from production to the requester according to state law, including RCW 42.56 and other state laws. From: Shannen Cartmel Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 10:57 AM To: John Fleming Subject: Thacker MLA18-00099 Hi John, Please resume your review of the Thacker stormwater plans. It has been decided by our director and county leadership that Jefferson County is accepting the Non-Wetland Determination for the parcel. Thank you, Exhibit 22 - Page 4 of 7 2 Shannen Cartmel Jefferson County Community Development Assistant Planner 621 Sheridan St., Port Townsend, WA 98368 Mon-Thurs 9am - 4:30pm, closed from 12-1 Ph: 360-379-4454 Fax: 360-379-4451 scartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us http://www.co.jefferson.wa.us Exhibit 22 - Page 5 of 7 1 Shannen Cartmel From:Donna Frostholm Sent:Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:30 AM To:Shannen Cartmel Cc:John Fleming Subject:FW: Thacker - Resubmittal Shannen, Just as a follow up to the email below… Since the incorrect buffer width was put on the off-site wetland, you will need to request a revised site plan showing a 110-foot wetland buffer. Once the correct buffer width is shown for the off-site wetland to the east, an administrative wetland buffer reduction report or a CASP will be needed. Let me know if you have any questions. Donna From: Donna Frostholm Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:25 AM To: John Fleming Cc: Shannen Cartmel Subject: RE: Thacker - Resubmittal Hi John, You are correct – the wrong buffer table and number of points were used to get to an 80-foot wetland buffer. Based on the wetland rating form, the buffer should be 110 feet. Based on a brief glance at the information submitted in the 2019 ELS non-wetland report, I need to state: (1) I disagree that the on-site wet area is non-wetland and (2) I disagree with the extent of the off-site wetlands, as shown on the figures in that report. Based on a previous site visit I made earlier in the year, the distance of these two wetlands from the Thacker property and the size of the wetlands are not correctly shown on the ELS figures. Therefore, the off-site wetland ratings and buffer widths may or may not be correct. I realize there may be nothing you can do about this since the final decision to call the onsite wet area non-wetland was made by the DCD Director. However, the ELS information was referenced by Cleaver to prepare his stormwater report and may mean that an incorrect assessment of drainage assessment was made. Regards, Donna Frostholm, PWS Associate Planner/Wetlands Specialist Jefferson County DCD From: John Fleming Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 3:43 PM To: Donna Frostholm <DFrostholm@co.jefferson.wa.us> Cc: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us> Subject: FW: Thacker - Resubmittal Exhibit 22 - Page 6 of 7 2 Hi Donna: Please see the 2 attached .jpg files regarding the following questions: The attached revised wetland report (page 38 of a 96 page stormwater plan, and page 4 of the revised wetland report) states that a Category 3 wetland with Habitat value of 7 points has an 80 feet buffer to moderate impact land uses like SFR’s. I checked the JCC on the UDC link from DCD website, and see in Table 18.22.330(2) that the buffer to a delineated Cat 3 wetland with H=5 to 7 points is 110 feet. 1) Can you please confirm that the code that I am reading is the current version? 2) Can you please confirm the width of a buffer to the above situation (from a Cat 3 wetland, H=7, to an SFR development)? Thank you! John From: John Fleming Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 3:14 PM To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us> Subject: FW: Thacker - Resubmittal Hi Shannen: Just an FYI that today I received the attached revised stormwater plan from Jared Thacker’s engineer. I will continue the review after JPUD. Thank you, John From: Ron Cleaver Jr <rondcleaverjr@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 2:42 PM To: John Fleming <JFleming@co.jefferson.wa.us> Cc: Thacker, Jared M CIV PSNS&IMF, Code 1000 <jared.thacker@navy.mil> Subject: Thacker - Resubmittal Hi John, Please accept the attachments that have incorporated critical area information from a report prepared by Ecological Land Services and the revisions you requested. Thanks, Ron Exhibit 22 - Page 7 of 7