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HomeMy WebLinkAboutM040280 COMMUNICABLE PUBLIC HEALTH HOME VITAL ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DISEASE CONTROL NURSING NURSING STAT;STICS HEALTH EDUCATION i r _„4A S, ? .9.a"- ' "°" %V -!4: - 3 . . JEFFERSON COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT s E-yO 802 SHERIDAN PORT TOWNSEND,WASH.98368 C206)385-0722 `,..41411 BOARD OF HEALTH MEETING ,M8{4: . HEALTH DEPARTMENT CONFERENCE ROOM BOARD MEMBERS: STAFF MEMBERS: B. G. Brown, Member Randall M. Durant, R.S. A. M. O'Meara, Chairman Phyllis Bee, P.H.N. Carroll M.: Mercer, Member Joseph Fischnaller, M.D. Gael Stuart, Administrator MINUTES ' • ' APRIL 2, 1980 9:30 a.m. Meeting called to order by Chairman A. M. O'Meara with all Board members present. Dr. Fischnaller was unable to attend. 1 MINUTES: • The minutes of March 5, 1980 were approved by motion of Commissioner Brown, seconded by Commissioner Mercer. Unanimous. CORRESPONDENCE: None. OLD BUSINESS: 1. Roy Robeck and Pam Coulter appeared regarding an on-site sewage disposal permit for Forest Hills Stables, Swansonville. Mr. Robeck brought to the Board pictures of the area, soil samples from the perc holes previously denied by the Health Department, and reports from the soils engineer and the engineer that designed the system. Mr. Robeck told the Board that the property was purchased in 1976 with intent to develop a restaurant. Mr. Robeck told the Board that because of the denials not allowing them to pro- ceed with their plans they have lost their tax shelter on the property. Mr. Robeck explained the turn of events that has lead him to appeal the denials (attachment #1). Durant will review all the new information submitted by Robeck today and report back to the Board. NEW BUSINESS: 1. Calmar A. McCune appeared to request a variance from Section 4, Sub- Section 4-la (attachment #2). Mr. McCune proposes a pre-wrapped ice cream business to be located at 100 Tyler Street, Port Townsend. Due to the limited extent of this business, the Health Department recommends granting the variance. Commissioner Brown moved to grant the variance for Mr. McCune's business as recommended by the Health Department, Commissioner Mercer seconded the motion. Unanimous. Durant also discussed with the Board this section in the Ordinance that requires toilets. He feels this is not in the realm of the Health Depart- ment but of''the city or county building ordinance. 2. Malpractice insurance for Dr. Fischnaller is now Jefferson County's sole obligation now that Dr. Fischnaller is no longer with Clallam County. Jef- ferson County will prorate and refund that portion .of insurance Clallam County has already paid. 3. Occupational Therapist Contract between Mrs. Harriet Fish and Jefferson County Health Department_. Mrs. Fish shall act as an Occupational Therapist conducting services for patients eligible for Medicare and Medicaid upon 4 referral from physicians or other eligible referring professionals. Commis- sioner Brown moved to approve the contract subject to the Prosecuting Attorney's review and approval. Commissioner Mercer seconded the motion. Unanimous. Minutes for the Health Board Meeting April 2, 1980 Page 2 3. The Board discussed the upcoming meeting on On-Site Sewage Disposal. The meeting will be held on May 2, 1980 and if available it will be held at the hospital conference room. The Board reviewed the proposed agenda submitted by Randy Durant. REPORTS: 1. Public Health Nurse; Phyllis Bee a) Report on Nursing services. Mrs. Bee advised the Board that there is not a report at this time because all the information is in Olympia for programming on the state computer. Mrs. Bee and Gael Stuart explained the advantageous of using the state computer for accountability on the cost of each activity. b) Charleta Handly has been accepted into the Masters Program on Public Health at the U.W. Dennelle McClanahan will be filling in for Ms. Handly. 2. Environmental Health; Randy Durant a) Activities Report (attachment #3) b) Durant reported on the On-Site Sewage Conference he attended at the U.W. It was basically an update of what is going on in the field of on-site sewage today and the possible alternatives being used in other states. Meeting adjourned. Next scheduled meeting - May 7, 1980 is { Health Board Meeting April 2, 1980 attac}ment #1 Chariman O'Meara - Roy Robeck, On-Site Sewage Disposal, Swansonville, Port Ludlow. Did this come through your Randy? Randy Durant - I don't have anythin on it, except that we looked at the site previously and that it was denied on several occasions. I think Roy has a, he told me he had a new plan he was going to submit. Roy Robeck - These are pictures of the stables to give you an idea what. Commissioner Brown - I haven't seen any stable yet, 5 pictures and there's no stable yet. " Roy Robeck - That's showing you the land, showing there's no houses that we're going to jeapordize anybodys health. Commissioner Brown - I'm familar with it. I've been there lots of times. Roy Robeck - Site Plan of the area., That's one of our perc holes, dry. Chairman O'Meara<- What's this road here? 1 Ray Robeck - That's the road behind. Chairman O'Meara - By Mrs. Swanson, in that way by the Swanson's Commissioner Brown - Yes Bud, behind the stable. Roy Robeck - In 1976 we purchased the stables which was an existing commercial facility. The reasons we purchased it, we did want to have a restaurant. The small panebode building next to the large barn was being used at the time, It was built in 1967 for serving groups, serving public. It had a commercial range, it had a stainless steel 2 hole sink which was, I guess it was legal at that time. It does have 2 restrooms. It has the well and the spetic tank in and it was a tax shelter for us because we can purchase it as a corporation. In 1977 we started improving the facilities, we put in carpet, dance floor. To get some capital we initiated the horseback rides again. In 1978 we had the horseback rides for the last year because we had enough capital for opening in 1979. We then rented out space in the arena for a boat shop to continue to give us capital. In our efforts to upgrade the facilities we were told we-had to uncover the septic tank, which we did, and found out it's 64 feet from the well. Which as that time was OK, it only had to be 50 feet, now it has to be 100 feet. Chairman O'Meara - Wait a minute, let me ask a.question. Is that the septic tank or the drainfield? • Roy Robeck - Septic tank. Chairman O'Meara - Septic tank. How far was the drainfield? Roy Robeck - It's probably another 10 - 15 feet beyond that. So we brought a backhoe up, dug some perc holes near the existing drainfield and those soils were found to be unsuitable. So I brought a friend of mine up who has worked for the Health Depart- ment in Washington D.C., who suggested an area that we try. We tried that area, Larry Anderson came out, he looked at them and said, upon leaving, it looks like you're in business. Then we got our denial. The letter emphasized that it would be approved for a single family residents. We have 8.5 acres. So we called the Health Department to find out why, and they said, Larry said, that we had no reserve area. So we got another backhoe up there, we dug holes in the reserve area. I called Gael Stuart, at that time he referred me back to Randy. On March 26, 1979 Randy came out and denied the hole because Larry had just transferred, and he stated, well we don't have any water in the holes except for one, which is outside the area where we want to put the system in. He stated that we had a severe to very slow permiablity and the topography in low wet areas (?) useage. That's why I brought the pictures in, to show you what the topography is like. It's gently rolling. There was no actual perc test done at this time so I don't know how the Health Department could say that -1- , • 1-A we had severe to very slow permiability. So I asked what I could do, can I hire an engineer? Yes I can, but it still has to be approved by the Health Department, fine. Can I appeal to Olympia? Yes, but the Health Department here still has to approve it, that's fine. So I decided to try an engineer. Came to the Health Department, they gave me an approved engineers list. The reason they're approved is they evidently know the area. OK, so July 1979 a system was designed After discussion, the engineer's discussion with the Health Department. So I was surprised to find out on August 14th our system was denied. In September we contacted Dr. Fischnaller who referred me back and fourth to Randy. He and Randy came out and denied it. I called Olympia, they will help only at the request of the Health Department, they referred me back to Randy. In December we lost our (?) tax shelter status because we had a boat shop up there, we didn't have any active business, we were just renting space. December 1979 we hired our second engineer, this one was a soils engineer. On December 26th we dug more pert holes. Now, December of last year I understand we had around 8 to 10 inches of rain, it was one of the rainyest months we had. None of my pert holes up there hold water except one, and that's the one that's outside the area. Now I brought soil samples from all 17 perc holes that I have up there now. The one with the red tag is the one that's in the area that I won't be using. None of those holes hald water, there's not a bit of water in any of those as of yesterday. We had an actual soils analysis made. A sive analysis was made of the soil by Testing South- west, Inc. and my letter from the engineer says the soil in the area of the drain- field is of sufficient quality to provide optimum filtration for (?) removals. The The soil depth is more than adequate to maintain the requested seperation between (?) bottom and impervious layers for seasonal highwater. He's also given you a breakdown of what types of soils in each hole that we've dug; The holes are indicated on the system here 1,2,3, and our reserve area. This is a copy of the real estate appraisal in 1967 to show you the size of the panabode building we want to use. And I'm sure you already have copies of my denials and my letters. This is also the first engineer's design, which was denied. I had a bacteria analysis done on the water. That came out good. Here's a copy of the chemical analysis done on the water. Chairman O'Meara - How is the water up there? Roy Robeck - There's iron in-it. It'll have to be filtered. It smells kind of sulfery too when it's been sitting a long time. But that's rot inconsistant with the water in the area. What I'd like to know is, one, I'd like approval on the system based on my 2 engineer's reports. Both engineers feel it can be done. If the system can't be expanded, we're not trying to jeapordize anybodys health thats why we've gone to all this trouble to have this system expanded, Can we use the existing facility, if this isn't approved, for continuing to serve groups as it was originally intended to do. Can we cater from the stables, to continue the commercial operation up there? I don't want to put homes in the 8.5 acres. I think we've shown by the pictures, by the engineer report, that we do have the sufficient area we're not jeapordizing any- bodys health. We are willing if the system does fail, which has already been stated in those letters, we're willing to work with the Health Department, close it down if necessary. We have other alternatives if this doesn't work. Pam Coulter - This was our purpose, was the restaurant and it was just a minimum service. It's not a harbor master. Roy Robeck - We're too far out of the area to have breakfast, possibly lunches in the summer to catch the overflow from the Harbor Master and a dinner house. That's all we're asking. Chairman O'Meara - Randy have you gone over all these engineer's reports. Randy Durant - No I haven't. I did the first one. Chairman O'Meara - Well I think that we should probably, I wish D . Fischnaller was here -2- _ 1-B so he could run over this too. But I think that we should take all this reports and give it to Dr. Fischnaller and Randy and have them run through that again. And give us an answer on it. Roy Robeck - That's why we had the soils engineer do it this time because he did an actual analysis of the soil. Sent it to a professional laboratory to have a sive analysis, showing particle sizes. You are welcome to keep the samples of my 17 pert holes. Chairman O'Meara - Are those samples all marked from where they came from? Roy Robeck - No. They come from the entire area. They're all pretty much the same. None of those holes up there are holding water. Chairman O'Meara - Except the one with the red in it. What's that, a low area or some- thing? Roy Robeck - That's back here by this tree. Commissioner Brown - Can you fine in this picture Roy Robeck - It's right begind this house here, up by these trees. Back coroner of this building. You're welcome to have your own tests done on the soils. These soils by the way, these we're taken from the top of the monds next to the pert holes. So when the backhoe reached the bottem portion these soils were from the bottem must portions of my holes. Chairman O'Meara - Has anybody been out to look at those since they've been dug? Randy Durant - Looked at them several times. Roy Robeck - We dug holes in December of this year. The final holes for this other engineer. By the time Dr. Fischnaller came out to look those had been open for about 9 months. They have a tendency to dry out, they didn't look as good. We didn't hire another backhoe to come up there again. We thought 4 times, 4 different backhoes should be plenty. Randy Durant - September 20, 1979 was the date Doctor and I were there last. Commissioner Mercer - This letter that you wrote to Chuck Mclearnsberry is August, were they proposing full fill drainfield? Because a full fill drainfield is not an approved method to an on-site sewage system. Randy Durant - Yes. The pipe was above ground. It was kind of in between a mound and a fill. Roy Robeck - Another problem we're having is when asked if me could have a catering operation there's nothing in this County showing a track record of catering operations. So consequently we don't have anything we can base it on. Pam Coulter - Water flow and useage. Roy Robeck - So consequently we can't get an answer. Commissioner Mercer - Did you'have a regular soils engineer do this? Roy Robeck - Yes sir. Commissioner Mercer - Chuck is an engineer but not a soils engineer. Roy Robeck - But he's on your approval list. Randy Durant - Any licensed engineer can lay out septice tank and drainfield. Commissioner Mercer - But not for the soil test. Chairman O'Meara - Before he lays out this drainfield shouldn't the soils man look at the soils first to see where the area should be layed out? Randy Durant - That would be a good idea but most don't, Chairman O'Meara - I don't know if any of you were at the meeting at Fort Warden when this man from Pearce County came up to give, he does all the soil tests in Pearce County, not all but alot of it. He said they have a test of the soil, he's the engineer that designs it, then he has a soils man that comes in and they bring soil back to test it to see where they're going to put the drainfield. That seemed to me -3- ry l_c if they design a drainfield first then look at the soil afte-ward then they're putting the cart ahead of the horse. It seems like it„ Why design a drainfield that might not fit the area where the soils are, Pam Coulter - We're just tearing how process, what we're suppose to dn. When it was denied that's when we started calling in all the experts to give us advise on what we should be doing, The last thing was the soil analysis to make sure that it would filter. Gael Stuart - You want to get it in operation for this summer? Roy Robeck - It certainly would he nice, we've already lost our tax shelter on it. No sense delaying it another year, Chairman O'Meara - Like I say,, Pir Fischnaller how long do you think before he will be here? I think we should get together with him and have him go ever this whole works, all of us, with the new information we have. Gael Stuart - We can call him today. 1 don't think that he's going to be hampered that much. I think he'll be available almost immeaditly. Pam Coulter - We've learned alet doing this. One thing people in our position, that aren't aware of all the things that go into this. When something is denied if there are alternative systems that can be used. I know the Health Department can't officially go in and say will you can use this system but if they can make known to people the process of people to reach to have this done it would probably save somebody else a tax shelter. Commissioner Mercer - The last meeting that Roy was here those things all came out. In fact I'm sure Randy gave him a letter of who to contact and the number of alternatives that. Randy Durant - Everything that we were aware of. 4 Commissioner Mercer - Ard it was also brought up that maybe the best move to see that you had a necular soils engineer if you didn't like the results that you get locally, because Commissioner Brown - This was cut of Olympia, is that right? Roy Robeck - That's correct. Commissioner Brow - Yes. Environmental specialists. Chairmen C'meara - Well I think then we'll let it.go but if we can, get hold of Dr. Fischnaller later on this week or you can talk with him to for sure go over this. find then we can cot tooether on it, Randy Durant - I would prepare for 'nu past documentation that has occured also and evaluate this material. Chairman C'weera - :t sounds like with the new information and the soil samples See? Stuart - think that in view of the matter of the timing, for instance, as far as Fonest .Stables is concerr is sould be brought to, rather than waiting for an- other Health Department meeting, it should be brought to the Commissioners immediatly :or decision. ? - siner merner - „lust 7istering tr, it, Randy, do you think there's all the infor- me:ior, necessary now, :t looks to me that they've gone to err awlful lot of work and evoeme,e tn orovide -ant - : don't krv7w, Id have to look at it. It looks like there's alot more irfonmation there now then there was before. -A- ,� rru r ANAMIAMMIIMMINIArr�Irrre.rrl� e e , • +"�'.'"— COMMUNICABLE PUBLIC HEALTH HOME VITAL ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DISEASE CONTROL NURSING NURSING STATISTICS HEALTH EDFIGATIOR ...kp, , • attachment #2 /. ' JEFFERSON COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT ] 802 Nezik SHERIDAN PORT TOWNSEND,WASH.98368 (208)3lSit722 .. . _ ,. To: Jefferson County Board of Health i From: Randall M. Durant, R.S. Re: Variance Request from Section 4, Sub-Section 4 - lA, By Cal McCune For a Pre-wrapped Ice Cream Business to be located at 100 Tyler Street I Section 4 - lA of Jefferson County Ordinance 2-77, Food Ordinance - "All food service establishments, other than temporary establishments that are constructed or extensively reconstructed after the effective date of this ordinance shall have toilet and hand washing facilities for each sex which are available to the public and which are available without passing through a food processing or storage area." Due to the limited extent of this business, it is similar to an indoor "popsicle stand" in my opinion, I would recommend the variance be granted. A number of years ago, prior to the Olympic Health District being split into two departments, there was a discussion regarding this particular section by the Olympic Health District Board of Health as to its merits. However, it was not resolved at that time whether it should be removed from the ordinance. As I recall this was the opinion of the Jefferson County members of the Board of Health. You may wish to consider removing this from the ordinance or amendment in the near future as we are continu- ally having new establishments proposed and this seems to be creating a hardship in most cases. I feel the requirement for public restrooms should be a requirement, not of the health department but of city or county build- ing ordinances. The Health Department's responsibility as per the State Board of Health Regs is to require restrooms for employees only. • • 2-4 �• Jefferson County Health Department 802 Sheridan Port Townsend, Washington 98368 Attention: Merilee L. Blaine March 25, 1980. Re: Pre-wrapped Ice Cream Business Gentlemen, An application for health permit from your office is submitted with this letter. The project is one to attempt to operate a pre-wrap ice cream and yogurt sales counter at 100 Tyler, Port Townsend, during the tourist season. I have no idea whether the project may succeed, but if it does, I would contemplate using the earnings to construct two suitable bathrooms at the location. I would rather not take limited space and build two bathrooms now that might not be used should the business fail. Presently it is hard to determine the number of tourists who will be feeding their faces in Port Townsend and, so, I would like to proceed cautiously by building a counter in the entry way to the building behind the Lighthouse Cafe and selling over that counter pre-wrapped ice cream and yogurt. These items are presently for sale at The Grocery Store. The items to be sold are made elsewhere, contain no preservatives and are fairly healthy. A rough sketch of the proposed layout is also enclosed. I-hope your office and that of the county commissioners will allow a variance, perhaps, to be reviewed one year hence, from Ordinance 2-78, Section IV, Sub.sec. 4.1.a. Vary truly yours, Calmar A. McCune 2-B FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT APPLICATION FOR PERMIT Jefferson County Health Department 802 Sheridan Port Townsend WA 98368 385-0722 p ,mf Establishment: Beach Ice Cream Date 3/26/80 Mailing Address: 100 Tyler, Port Townsend, Washington Phone 385 1624 Location: Adjoining beach at•100 Tyler, Port Townsend, Washington Name and Address of Person, or Persons, having an interest in Establishment. 100 Tyler, Port Townsend, Wa Calmar A. McCune 98368 Permit No. Name of Manager: Calmar A. McCune Permit Fee TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT Restaurant Nov.Profit Organization Private Club Drive In Ice Cream Parlor Temporary Cocktail Lounge Fraternal Organization Itinerant Tavern Meat/Fish Market Mobile Fountain Other Mostly non-sit down counter sales of pre-wrapped ice cream ana yogurt. Dining Room Seating Capacity Tavern/Lounge Seating Capacity Banquet Room Seating Capacity Drive-In Parking Spaces ******ant***** APPROVAL OF PLANS IS NECESSARY BEFORE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT TO OPERATE. PLEASE ATTACH PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS TO THIS RA APPLICATION.I *********MOBILE*********�`******** ***********TEMPORY**************ITINFIANT p� Location • Dates Of Operation 1 tail 01Q, Foods To Be Served Location of nearest toilet facilities you have permission to use Any employees can use facility in building about 25 feet away, but request is made REMARKS: for variance from Section IV, sub section I .l.a. because of ' space limitation in premises ano due to sales being mostly light snack and not a heavy meal. 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Attended 2 day conference- 3rd Northwest On-site Waste Water Disposal Short Course at the University of Washington. Met with Cape George Club president and began Cape George sewage survey. Eight lots surveyed to date. Spent 11 days on Court case against County which was dismissed. Followup evaluation of preliminary plat, Division 7, Kale Point, and evaluation of new condominium proposals. Other field work: Food Complaints Water Other Finals Followup Total 13 4 4 25 10 38 94 Contacts: Office, Telephone calls, Plan review Sanitarians: 595 Telephone and office Secretaries: 123 Telephone 34 Office contacts 157 Total for secretaries 752 Total for secretaries and sanitarians Total contacts for year to date: 2,112 (Does not include field contacts or food handler tests) Food Handler Permits: March-29 81 Year to date Sewage disposal system repairs to date, 1980 - 3 • 0 00 1 fi �� 0 `� 3-A it Q N tAONOs.—OsC In tO •-+ a'Q tnLntotOhOettoM 1a v id i^ay... 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Cl 4 i 3 B ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TOTALS January thru March, 1980 1979 1980 15.00 {79) Septic.Tank and Drainfield $2,661.00 (89) 2,245.00 f1 , $1,710.00 (139) Site Evaluations 445..50 fl long: 9 short} $ 380.00 (2 long,7 short) Flatting 25.00 (1 restaurant) f $ 553.50 (21 restaurant) 00 (0 grocery) Food Establishments 105.00 (6 grocery) 170.00 (85) 162.00 (81) Food Handler Permits 3QO.OQ (10) 575.00 (19) 5,300.50 Installers, gapers $6,154.50 642 s l - j k COMMUNICABLE PUBLIC HEALTH HOME 'VITAL ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DtSEASE CONTROL NURSING NURSING STA.STICS HEALTH EDUCATION ,. ,. t. ®.�.. �_ T___._....._.�_�. __ f ' JEFFERSON COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT 4444 802 SHERIDAN PORT TOWNSEND,WASH.98368 (206)385.0722 BOARD OF HEALTH MEETING AGENDA g April 2, 1980 9:30 a.m. Health Department Conference Room 4 Approval of minutes of previous meeting 5 Correspondence y P Old Business A. Roy Robeck: On-site sewage disposal - Swansonville, Port Ludlow/7 B. General Discussion of on-going problems - Dr. Fischnaller i �- A C. Other old business New Business A. vDr. Fischnaller - Malpractice insurance- B. Occupational Therapist Contract - Home Health' C. /Schedule County Meeting on on-site sewage disposal D. Other new business Reports A.`"Public Health Nurse - Going on computer. B.-'Environmental Health C. Public Health Officer D. Administrator The next regular meeting will be May 7, 1980