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SPECIAL INTERGOVERNMENTAL MEETING
CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND
JEFFERSON COUNTY
PUBLIC UTILITY DISTRICT #1 OF JEFFERSON COUNTY
PORT OF PORT TOWNSEND
JUNE 22, 2000
DRAFT
I. CALL TO ORDER
A special intergovernmental meeting was held on Thursday, June 22, 2000 at 12:00 noon in the PUD Offices,
Port Hadlock, Washington. PUD Commissioner Tittemess served as Chair. This being the first meeting, there
were no minutes to approve nor reports from standing or special committees. Present at the meeting were:
City of Port Townsend Councilmembers GeoffMasci and Joe Finnie
Jefferson County Commissioners Dan Harpole, Glen Huntingford, and Richard Wojt
Public Utility District #1 Commissioners Bob Krutenat and Dan Tittemess
Port of Port Townsend Commissioners Bob Sokol, Herb Beck, and Conrad Pirner
u. DEVELOPMENT OF PROCEDURES/ ACTION ITEMS
Representatives reviewed the Memorandum of Understanding between the City of Port Townsend, Jefferson
County, PUD#1 of Jefferson County, and the Port of Port Townsend. There was a request to modify Item 5
related to staff participation in the meetings and Item 6 related to public testimony.
A. Item 5 - Staff Participation in the Meetings.
This item states that "No staff will participate in these meetings, however the hosting government will
provide for taking minutes of the meeting. " Although it was understood and supported that the purpose of
this meeting is for a discussion among elected officials, it was suggested that the language be revised to
reflect that staff participation is limited to answering questions as directed by elected officials.
Commissioner Harpole agreed to take responsibility for creating a draft with this recommended revision
and presenting it to the other entities. For this meeting, representatives agreed that it would be appropriate
to access staff for questions.
B. Item 6 - Public Testimony.
This item states "Public testimony will not be pennitted. It is the responsibility of the participating
governments to subject agenda items to the public process, if necessary; prior to placing them on the
agenda of the Council." It was recommended that there be a limited public comment period at the
beginning to allow the public an opportunity to bring information to electeds prior to discussion as well as
at the end of the agenda for additional comments. Public testimony is important to ensuring that elected
officials hear from the public. There was agreement to establish a meeting format with brief public
comment periods (limited to 3 minutes each speaker) at the beginning and end of the agenda.
There was discussion about whether it is important for participants to have the authority to take action should
they reach agreement. There was general consensus that, although this meeting can be a forum for good
discussions and support of each other, each entity would make decisions as dictated by their own processes.
There was agreement that this council is a discussion body only and although there may be agreements in
principle, there would be no formal actions taken at this meeting.
There was discussion of other items in the Memorandum of Understanding as follows:
C. Item 2 -- Responsibility for hosting meetings.
It was understood that the hosting government would chair the meeting. It was requested that the next
meeting be scheduled as soon as three months ahead to avoid scheduling conflicts. The Port of Port
Townsend agreed to host the next meeting and establish a meeting, date possibly the 2nd Thursday in
October.
D. Item 4 - Agenda.
It was suggested that a shorter period be listed for submission of agenda items instead of the stated 45
days. Following discussion, there was agreement to revise the language to reflect that "The agenda items
shall be submitted to the hosting government twenty-one days prior to the meeting, .... "
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E. Item 5 -- Staff participation in the meetings (continuation).
There was agreement that the language would be changed to read "Staff will not participate in the round
table discussion during these meetings. However, staff is considered an important resource for the
participants and can be called upon as needed. " The hosting government will provide for taking minutes
of the meeting.
F. Item 7 - Distribution of Minutes (new item).
It was recommended that a new item be added stating that The hosting government will provide for the
distribution of minutes to participants following the meeting.
It was recommended this document be revised and distributed for review prior to the next meeting.
Ill. DISCUSSION TOPICS
A. Port/PUD Topic: Airport Fire Flow Project - Status
Several airport construction projects were approved under the condition of providing fIre flow. The
County has indicated that permits would be difficult to obtain until there is ftre flow compliance. In an
effort to comply, the Port, the City and the PUD have been working to resolve whether the City or the
POO has jurisdiction in serving this area. The PUD has done preliminary engineering and submitted a
project report to the DOH regarding the water system and the PUD has obtained a DOT permit for
crossing the airport cutoff road. The PUD has requested a Public Works Trust Fund loan to assist in the
construction of a 250,000 gallon water tank and installation of approximately 6,000 feet of 8~10 in. mains.
Provided the loan is approved as anticipated, the likely construction start will be May 2001. Although a
two-year extension was requested in May 1999, the County granted only one-year. No formal request was
submitted for granting the original extension of June 2001. Now that the policy struggle between the PUD
and City has been resolved, the goal is to get funding and move on with the project. If the loan is not
approved, the PUD and Port have a funding agreement and construction will continue.
The County recommended that the Pert request, through the County Administrator, a one-year extension
on the project. They clarifted that an issue that remains unchanged is that until there is a sub-area plan for
the airport, development is reserved to airport-related activity.
The POO asked if the City would be interested in transferring customers and the portion of the water
system at the Snagstad Road serving line area at the airport to the POO under equitable circumstances. If
these are transferred to the PUD, the booster pump will no longer be necessary. Councilmember Masci
noted the request.
There was a discussion of the infrastructure funding resulting from the 6094 legislation. The County is
holding an eight tenths percent rebate on sales tax. The funds were intended to help provide infrastructure
to help fuel rural economic growth. The County agreed to ask County Administrator Charles Saddler to
begin the process of getting the appropriate parties at the table for discussion. The RCW spells out what
entities are to be involved
B. City Topic: Recreation for Children in Jefferson County
Councilmember Allen Frank, who was not present at the meeting, requested this item be added to the
agenda. -
County comments were that there is also a strong and growing community interest in an aquatic center as
well as interest by the YMCA in coming to Jefferson County to provide recreational activities. It is
expected that in order to support an aquatic center, a population base of 20,000 is needed and would need
to include all East Jefferson County in a Park and Recreation service area. A feasibility study would
include siting to serve this broader community. The last two surveys by the City and County indicated the
public wanted hiking and walking trails among other recreational activities. The County is embarking on a
master nonmotorized trails plan and a group of residents is nearing agreement with DNR and ORM for a
possible trail from Anderson to Gibbs Lake.
The Port commented that the boat ramps provide for'recreational activity, such as the youth sailing
program and there is a lot of beach activity in Quilcene. The Port does have attractive property, owned by
the citizens of the County, at Kah Tai Lagoon that is in controversy currently about a skateboard park.
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That property is zoned for recreational activities, is centrally located, and is on the transit route. The
restroom on Larry Scott Trail at the west end of the boat haven is close to being complete.
City comments were that the City's Park and Recreation Committee is working on both skateboard and
aquatic center ideas. The Parks and Recreation summit will flesh out the wants and needs. Affording our
needs will precede affording our wants.
City and County representatives recognized the need to discuss creating a mechanism for a sustainable
funding source, such as a taxing district or recreational service area. They also expressed an interest in
scheduling the Parks and Recreation Summit. The intent of the summit is to include all parties providing
recreation activities and begin to look at efficiency gains and new funding strategies.
C. County Topic: Public Comment During Meeting
For today's meeting, there is a public comment period at the end of the meeting. Included in follow up
agendas will be public comment periods scheduled at the beginning and at the end of the meeting.
D. PUD Topic: Support for PUD Power Authority
The PUD briefed their Resolution No. 2000-002, outlining the process of placing a question on the
November ballot requesting authority to retail electricity. The question to be placed before the voters is
whether the PUD shall construct or acquire facilities for the generation, transmission, or distribution of
electrical power. Their desire is to fulfill their mandate to supply cost-based utility service to people of the
County. Cost-based or market-based power can be obtained from Bonneville Power Authority (or other
sources depending on Bonneville's purchasing azT3l1gements) and retailed to people of the County. They
want the opportunity to explore some needs and benefits of distributed generation in the rural communities
in Eastern Jefferson County. The PUD is also interested in the operating electrical facilities on the Indian
Island Naval Facility.
In order to begin exploring the possibilities, electrical authority is needed. They requested that the County,
City and Port provide resolutions of support and include the PUD in any franchise discussions with the
current electrical provider. The PUD would need to be given a franchise authority to use the infrastructure
and wholesale power. The text of the resolution is part ofRCW 54, a copy of which was distributed. They
have engaged a contractor to study the issue of infrastructure. They suggested the County review the
Comp plan to ensure that the PUD is included as a potential utility supplier of electricity. They described
the difference between investor-owned utilities (IODs) and public power. The PUDs represent a market
threat to other utility suppliers in the County.
The County agreed to follow up on considering a resolution and will look into and provide feedback on the
Compo Plan question.
Commissioner Wojtjoined the meeting at 1:30 PM.
E. Port Topic: Comprehensive Scheme of Harbor Improvements (Information Item)
The purpose of this topic is to give notice of the process of updating this plan. Because the Port has
facilities in the City and County, the Comprehensive Scheme touches all agencies and has implications for
the Joint Growth Management Committee. The Comprehensive Scheme has been in existence since the
Port began in 1926 and was last updated in 1982. There are many references in the document that need
updating, such as references to the railroad transfer span which the City now owns and the rail line from
the Mill which is now the Larry Scott Trail. What was once envisioned is now to a large extent a reality,
with usage exceeding projections. The scheme talks about improving the ability to haul out larger vessels
and refers to a marina expansion which is remarkably similar to the plan the Port is looking at with the
Corps of Engineers. The public process may result in additional changes. Other areas to be addressed in
this scheme include an update of the airport master plan originally created in 1994 (not a sub~area plan)
and the Port regaining management control of Point Hudson.
Break at 1:40 PM
Returned at 2:00 PM. City Councilmember Finnie joined the meeting.
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F. County Topic: UGA Status in Glen Cove and Tri-Area
The County outlined their latest thoughts concerning the designating of UGA status for the Tri-Area and
Glen Cove. The County Commissioners no longer believe that these two issues should be addressed
simultaneously. The Tri~Area UGA issue is developing at a faster rate and should be addressed without
waiting for Glen Cove to develop the same level of maturity. Both communities have issues that will
impact the County, City and PUD. When the BOCC gave direction to staff that these are going toward
UGA, the Commissioners realized the need to do sub-area plans and nine parameters around resolving the
community issues. It became apparent that the Tri-Area had more pressing issues than Glen Cove. The
light industrial manufacturing is a particular concern that the County has been made aware of through
:frustrated citizens trying to develop business opportunities. It seems the most appropriate venue for this
topic is the Joint Growth Management Steering Committee. The County recommends focusing limited
resources on the Tri Area, while opening up the tight line boundary northward, including about 75 acres
for light industrial and manufacturing. Then follow with a limited strategy in Glen Cove. They clarified
that there have been no modifications to the Comp Plan regarding the designations of the Tri Area or Glen
Cove. A public hearing process is needed to modify the Comprehensive Plan to expand the tight line
boundary because of the existing utility infrastructure.
There was a question about the status of the Glen Cove, Tri-Area study. The County responded that of the
six components in the original scope agreed to through the Joint Growth Management Steering
Committee, the majority of steps one through five were completed. Part of the conclusion was that there .
are somewhere between 200 and 300 additional acres needed for commercial development. The Board
discussed alternative scenarios and agreed that the Tri Area is looking and developing like an Urban
Growth Area. The City lobbied the County and said they wanted a closer look at Glen Cove as a future
urban growth area. Still to be addressed in a sub"area planning process for the Tri-Area are how to address
the traveled ways, the corridors, issues of getting and getting rid of water, and the capital facilities
element.
The County indicated that if the Joint Growth Management Steering Committee partners agree with this
concept, the County can initiate a Compo Plan amendment toward that direction. The County is under a big
workload to get the Unified Development Code (UDC) done this year. Following that work will be efforts
on SB 5019 which says that if a manufacturing business wants to come in, by law they must first look in
the UGA. If the UGA does not have room, they can request zoning somewhere in the county to plot down
a light industrial manufacturing campus. This bill requires that a public strategy be adopted.
There was a question about what is being done for South County. The County reported that the Brinnon
sub-area plan is underway and the entire plan from Walker mountain south is scheduled to be completed
within 14 months. Until the Quilcene community gets together with the PUD to get a water system, there
is not much the County can do. The PUD commented that through negotiations the forest service may
become more amenable to working with the PUD and allowing them to develop a small system in the
downtown core area.
G, City Topic: Joint Growth Capital Facilities Planning
The City has decided to add a fifth standing committee called the Capital Facilities Committee. The intent
is to assess the current value of all of the City's real estate holdings. A filter process would determine the
mandated and most appropriate uses of the facilities, including selling the asset, with the monies going
into the City's general fund. In support of this, the Council passed a surplus property ordinance and are
now authorized to determine a course of action on these assets. Through this prework, the City will be
better able to predict their needs and reenter dialogue with the County on joint facilities.
The County commented that they signed a joint resolution with the City. They also prepared a scope of
work for the City to consider using the County's contracted consultant to bring together the City's
information and needs description similar to the County's. They asked if the contract will be brought up
for consideration again and how long they will need to wait.
The City responded that the vote against the proposal spurred the creation of the capital facilities plan
because the Council needed some data. There is interest in revisiting the consultant proposal. The Capital
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Facilities Committee will also provide the County Administrator a schedule of the topics that come before
the monthly capital facilities discussion.
H. Port Topic: JCIA Noise Overlay Ordinance
The Port reviewed the history of two policies that deal specifically with the airport: an airport overlay
zone and the noise overlay zone. The County Commissioners Resolution 71-98 committed to creating this
zone within 120 days of Compo Plan adoption. The original draft was fraught with problems. The
ordinance was rewritten after a Port workshop identified problems. It is the Port's understanding that
because the Planning Commission recommended the redraft be put on hold until adoption of the Glen
Cove Tri~Area study, the second draft did not make it to the Planning Commission. The Port would like to
bring out the draft ordinance with a revised plan to address as many of the objections as possible. The Port
would also like to address the misunderstanding that this zone is just for new, buildable lots. It would be
for any property that changes hands. They distributed a brochure detailing its good neighbor policy (noise
abatement procedure). The Port feels it has done all it can do.
The County asked if notice to title is the best approach and whether the County could adopt a noise
abatement ordinance and reference the area. The County is often accused of stepping in and trying to
notice every community conflict and many feel that conditioning the title devalues property.
The Port said the airport by definition is an essential public facility. The noise overlay district is intended
to establish an area within which property owners will be informed of potential noise impacts associated
with normal flight and ground operations at JClA. It does not have to be notice to title although it may be
more effective. The Port read an article about Washington leading the way in addressing aviation noise
concern, requiring public entities that own or operate airports to make provisions for the airports in the
Comprehensive Plan to discourage incompatible land use around them. The program has stopped the
dangerous trend of Washington losing one airport per year.
The County agreed to bring the draft up for review.
I. PUD Topic: Eastern Jefferson County Telecommunications
At a recent EDC meeting, the PUD raised the concern that Bonneville Power has not advanced fiber optic
cable to Jefferson County. Northwest Open Access Network (NOA Net) will meet in Portland, OR on June
27-2Sth, where it is expected that more information will be available. Jefferson and Clallam County POO
staff are near agreement on asking NOA Net to site two points of presence on the north Olympic Peninsula
and the EDC agreed to forward a grant request from the POO. The PUD wants next to discuss assistance
ITom the 0.8% infrastructure money for cost abatement during construction. The PUD believes this cable
will provide economic growth opportunities with low environmental and visual impact.
The County announced that a telecommunications inventory is underway to identify gaps in available
services and infrastructure. It is hoped that once the gaps are identified that part of the 0.8% infrastructure
money might go to fill the gaps.
The City was supportive of beginning negotiations today for stringing cable and to begin making
legislative changes in community development to allow certain uses in residential zones.
The PUD said they will be petitioning for a point of presence with or without the grant. They are also
given serious consideration to entering into a purchase agreement for fiber optic cable.
J. City Topic: Sleep Parking Issues (Information Item)
This topic came through the Transit Authority where they were addressing citizen needs relative to sleep
parking (peoples whose homes are on wheels). Some residents Jive on land as people live on the ocean --
they live in campers or vans and have a mobile lifestyle. They work, shop and are citizens of our area.
There are not many provisions if any throughout our region for those folks to be able to sleep park.
Camping facilities are often cost prohibitive. This topic is introduced for information and to begin
dialogue. As the gap widens between the rich and people of lesser means, there may be more people
choosing this lifestyle. The response may be as simple as providing an inventory of facilities that have
adjacent sanitary facilities and a solid waste disposal facility.
The Port commented that they currently have daytime parking problems and have had serious problems
with people living up on their boats in the boatyard. Conf1icts have arisen with the people who work
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during the day in the boatyard and there are vandalism problems to the public restroom facilities. They
differentiated between people who live in the boatyard and "liveaboards" in the marina who pay fees for
their slip and comply with rules and regulations. The Port would prefer providing an economic base where
jobs are available so people can afford to live somewhere rather than in their cars. They also believe that
for many people, such as those in the boatyard it is a lifestyle choice.
There was discussion about whether another jurisdiction has taken action on this issue. Questions were
regarding enforcement, sanitary and public health issues, and insurance concerns. A comment was made
that although some may choose it as a lifestyle, increasingly there are people that are going to be forced
into this situation.
IV. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
Michelle Sandoval:
She believes that it had been discussed that the appropriate time to address the noise overlay zone was
once the sub-area or master plan for the airport was put forward. The references to the Tri-Area/Glen Cove
sub-area plan were for other than airport uses. Once the Tri-Area/Glen Cove study was complete, it was
expected that information would be available on how many acres were needed for additional light
industrial, etc. Commissioner Sokol noted that the County sent a letter to the Port Commission dated
March 18, 1999 concurring with the Planning Commission that the noise overlay zone should be
postponed until both the Glen Cove Tri-Area study and the aÎIport master plan have been developed. The
Port is moving forward with the airport sub~area plan, but no timeline has been established.
Related to car parking, an obvious issue no one mentioned is the lack of affordable housing.
If the infrastructure goes in for the high-tech industries, she believes what comes under question is how
much infrastructure and how much light industrial area is going to be needed. If we are going to put
money into Glen Cove infrastructure then we may want to spend the money on the fiber optics that will
provide the higher wage jobs and a cleaner sort of industry. And yet, they may be placed other places and
not in Glen Cove.
Nancy Dorgan:
Related to Kah Tai, she asked everyone to consider how easy it is not to develop something. Discussed
today were, what she would consider to be, incompatible uses for that beautiful space. She urged people to
leave the area alone and let it give the people ofthe County what it is already.
Guy Rudolph:
Although he is pleased the County is fmally going to be doing the sub-area plan for the Tri Area, he is
about ready to tell the government to leave them alone and stay the heck out of the area. This has been
discussed since 1994 when the City appealed the Compo Plan for the interim UGA. The opportunity to
build a real community has gone by the wayside. There is not a great deal of help in State funding for
studies. It is increasingly hard to become a new city and that is what the UGA is -~ a city controlled by the
County.
Pat Rodgers:
The 200-300 acres that you talked about that might be necessary for future commercial and light industrial
development are numbers from the notorious Trottier report and are incorrect. Even if you were to take the
200-300 acres, those are descriptive, not prescriptive. The concept is that you absolutely need to set aside
that many acres minimum. He advised taking a hard look at 200-~00" acres.
Mark Beaufait:
He thinks this meeting is a good start for getting issues out on the table. One important thing is to pay
attention to the lead times because a lot of the issues get back to the inftastructure tax which means the
process for appropriating that should be drafted now. Get started now on multi-input component.
Janet Folliard:
She explained she is the one who approached the transit about park sleeping. The attitudes expressed today
are typical - making jokes and making light of it - treating these people like third-class citizens. The
attitude is totally out of line. Hundreds of people in this county live out of their vehicles and we need a
piece of land put aside so that people have a safe place to go and park. Lifestyle or otherwise, it does not
matter. There is no affordable housing here. There is a woman in her 70s that lives on her retirement out of
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a station wagon and you make jokes about it. Santa Cruz, California recognized the need for this and has
set aside land for sleep parking.
Michelle Sandoval:
In regard to the PUD vote about power, she asked if information will be available to the public prior to the
vote. She is confused because the resolution talked about the right to begin to research it, but the actual
vote is for the right to proceed to do it. The PUD responded that the vote is for the authority to plan and
develop. The fIrst step in planning is study, but it is authority for all of it. There will be a booth at the
County Fair with some demonstrations and information.
Guy Rudolph:
He read a draft article he is going to publish as follows: It is not a secret there is a disenchantment with
the political system. There is very little public confidence in our political system. Local public officials are
better at maintaining institutions of government than they are at building communities. Our political
system has come to the point of disregarding the capabilities, talents and intelligence of everyday citizens.
Public officials would do a lot better if they viewed citizens as having an important role in helping them do
their jobs. Remember that they the government do take an oath of office to represent. He sees that
government has put the Tri Area in a place where every time we have tried to bring something forward to
them, they have stuffed the law up our nose in the community. We have tried to come in and discuss these
things and haven't gotten anywhere. You want to expand Glen Cove and not put the commercial area back
where it was back in the 1990s for the Tri Area. You cannot do one and not do the other one. You are just
moving further away from us. And the same way with the water system.
V. UNFINISHED BUSINESSINEW BUSINESS
Commissioner Sokol thanked the PUD for hosting the meeting. He feels it was a good forum for discussing
issues.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 3:30 p.m. The next meeting will be scheduled by the Port of Port Townsend and is
tentatively scheduled for the 2nd Thursday in October.
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JUL 1 2 2000
MEMO FOR SEE DISTRIBUTION
JEFFERSON COUNTY
SUBJECT: Minutes for the June 22, 2000 Intergovenunental Meeting BOARD OFCOMMtSSIONERS
1. The purpose of this memo is to forward the minutes of the 22 June 2000
Intergovernmental meeting held at the PUD#l of Jefferson County's Office.
2. Please distribute the inclosed minutes to your elected officers. They should review the
minutes and be prepared to present any changes at the next meeting. We will not attempt
to change the minutes prior to the meeting as that would require a never-ending iterative
cycle of changing and reissuing draft minutes.
3. According to the minutes the Port of Port Townsend will sponsor the next event, which is
tentatively scheduled for the 2nd Thursday in October.
4. Joanna Sanders took the minutes for us. She also does the minutes for the WUCC, and
any other PUD sponsored function requiring official minutes. If you wish to take
advantage of her services, you should coordinate with her early. She can be reached at
3792877, fax 3854928 or sanders@wavpt.com
5. Michelle Sandoval asked to receive a copy ofthe minutes and Mark Beaufait asked to
receive notice of future meetings. Because the minutes have not yet been approved, I did
not send a copy to Michelle, but that would not preclude anyone else fTom doing so.
6. POC this memo is Jim Parker, 385-5800
Distribution
City Manager
County Administrator
Port General Manager
PUD Commissioners
SPECIAL INTERGOVERNMENTAL MEETING
CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND
JEFFERSON COUNTY
PUBLIC UTILITY DISTRICT #1 OF JEFFERSON COUNTY
PORT OF PORT TOWNSEND
JUNE 22, 2000
GUEST SIGN IN SHEET:
Larry Crockett, Port of Port Townsend (385-0656)
John Watts, Port Townsend City Attorney (379-5048)
Michelle Sandoval, 686 Roosevelt St., Port Townsend, W A 98368 (385-9344)
Nancy Dorgan, Citizen Port Townsend (385-9287)
Philip L. Watness, Peninsula Daily News (385-2335)
Guy Rudolph, Tn-Area Community Club, PO Box 454 Chimacum, W A 98325 (385-3338)
Pat Rodgers, Brinnon (796-3022)
Charles Saddler, Jefferson County (385-9158)
Al Scalf, Jefferson County (379-4493)
Kate Jenks, Citizen, Port Townsend (385~4026)
Janet Folliard, Citizen Port Townsend
Mark Beaufait, 914 Washington #6, Port Townsend, WA 98368 (Please send meeting notices)