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REGIONAL INTERGOVERNMENTAL MEETING
City of Port Townsend, Port of Port Townsend
Jefferson County PUD #1, and Jefferson County Commissioners
TUESDAY, JUNE 7, 2005
Olympic Room - Waterman & Katz Building
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Catharine Robinson at 10:03 a.m.
The following representatives were present:
City of Port Townsend Council members: Michelle Sandoval and Catharine
Robinson
Port Commissioners: Bob Sokol and Herb Beck
PUD Commissioners: M. Kelly Hays and Wayne King
Jefferson County Commissioners: Phil Johnson, Pat Rodgers, and David
Sullivan (via speaker phone)
Not present: Geoff Masci (City); Conrad Pirner (Port); Dana Roberts (PUD)
Staff present: City Manager David Timmons, County General Services Director
Alan Sartin, and Port Director Larry Crockett
ANNOUNCEMENTS
There were no announcements
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the February 1, 2005 meeting were approved unanimously.
DISCUSSION OF TOPICS
Port of Port Townsend
Upcominq relocation of Port's Administration/Accountinq Offices in Point Hudson
Materials were distributed regarding the Port topics.
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Mr. Beck stated the project will cost about $300,000. Mr. Sokol noted that the
Port will occupy about a third of the building and the rest may be rented as office
space.
Mr. Crockett added that there is a workshop scheduled with the architect
tomorrow; the Port will be its own general contractor, which will allow them to use
more local labor.
u.s. Customs in Port Townsend
The Commissioners distributed a letter which will be mailed to U.S. Customs and
Border Protection, requesting a permanent customs agent for Port Townsend.
The previous agent retired and since then, agents are available only from the
Port Angeles office on call. If someone at the Port has a guest coming in from
Canada, they must wait until an agent shows up. The days and hours agents
are available vary now from week to week. Mr. Crockett stated this also holds
up the local private ferry run to Victoria.
Those in attendance expressed support for the request, and Mayor Robinson
stated she would have city staff draft a letter of support for possible Council
approval on June 20.
Airport Update
Mr. Sokol referred to the update which was provided. He noted the FAA is
providing about $800,000 from the FAA for major taxiway construction.
Additional stormwater runoff retention and treatment will be required, which will
cost about $150,000 and this has delayed the bid process. The PUD is ,
partnering with the Port to cover fire flow. He added that there is incredible
demand for hangars. The Aero Museum has started grading and is waiting for a
determination on septic capacity; a Northwest fixed-based operator is waiting to
build a new structure but the septic capacity is a problem. The Spruce Goose
wants to serve dinner four nights a week and that adds considerably to the
industrial waste that must be processed. The Port is also working with the FAA
to get instrument approach system so that planes could come in lower.
Mr. Crockett stated that construction is scheduled to start in July and there will be
much traffic coming and going from the site. Because contractors are building
their own hangars, they don't have to pay prevailing wage.
Mr. Sokol stated that typically a fixed base operator will operate air taxi service,
provide a conference room and lounge for pilots, provide flying lessons, and
other amenities. The proposed FBO currently does not want to do the air taxi
but that is a possibility in the future. The Port wants to continue to run fuel at the
airport.
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Mr. King and Mr. Kelly commented on the concept of rain gardens, which are
being used successfully in Bellingham. Runoff from parking lots goes into a
planting strip, then percolates through rather than overflowing into the storm
sewer.
Mr. Crockett noted the FAA discourages ponds near runways because of the
attraction to waterfowl.
PUBLIC UTILITY DISTICT #1
Peterson Lake
Mr. King stated that the PUD plans to buy Peterson Lake, a pristine privately
owned 243 acre property and lake, which could provide an additional water
storage reservoir and could provide stream augmentation for low flow periods.
If the PUD is successful, the property will remain one parcel, which cannot be
subdivided or sold and no development or public access will be allowed. In that
case, the lake would be fenced and a caretaker hired.
Mr. King noted that the tribes are very supportive and other partners will include
RC&D and Port Gamble.
He said that appraisals should be completed soon; a letter of intent has been
offered, and once the appraisals are done, the PUD will try to make the purchase
at appraised value as quickly as possible. At this point, Mr. Peterson is
indicating his desire to sell to the PUD.
Once the lake is owned by the PUD, grant funding will be pursued.
CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND
Countv-wide p/anninq policies and economic development
Ms. Sandoval stated this item is a carryover from the Joint Growth Management
Committee and was proposed for general discussion; however it may be better to
wait and bring forward after the decision about the land analysis, She suggested
discussing the CWPP as there hasn't been a lot of time focused on that issue.
There has been discussion of the potential support of the land analysis as the
subcommittee level; now we are at a point where that group needs to get back
together since the Port has decided not to go forward with funding for a land use
inventory. Comments on the CWPP will be brought forward to the next Joint
Growth Management Committee meeting.
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Mr. Rodgers asked if the City is still interested in pursuing a land analysis. He
noted the County Commissioners have voted to support in the amount of
$25,000 and that the land bank could be a beneficiary but more important is the
study itself and the analysis.
Ms. Robinson asked what the benefit to city taxpayers would be to spend money
on a county-wide land survey.
Mr. Rodgers stated that he believes there is a need so start to see the County
and City as one whole economic unit and work together to best serve the needs
of the residents. He sees the land inventory project as a fundamental piece of
knowledge necessary to achieve that objective.
Ms. Sandoval stated that the inventory is not necessarily as valuable to the City
as the City knows what its inventory is and what its infrastructure is; the City's
primary need now is to do an analysis of the City's infrastructure needs. She
stated she supports the goals of economic development, but these can better
accomplished by putting funding toward infrastructure improvements and studies
that will help us analyze those needs and locations.
Mr. Rodgers stated he applauds the city's development and planned
infrastructure improvements; however there must be a larger plan and the study
is fundamentally important to seeing how various projects are integrated into that
plan. He asks that everyone think in broader perspective which is larger than a
project level.
Ms. Robinson said there may be some other areas within economic development
that the EDC might help the city with that have a greater priority for us than a
countywide land assessment; we need to invest on the ground. She added that
the Councilmembers represent the city and not residents countywide.
Ms. Sandoval said there were many studies done which were paid for with joint
funds (BIRFUS, Sommers, etc.) and it would be good for EDC to build on that in
terms of the impact of changing demographics. We must be practical about
where we put our dollars.
Mr. Sokol said he would like to see the city's information and analysis; with a
land bank, you could help businesses in knowing when they can go forward and
whether their project can be accommodated in the city or needs to go into the
county. Information must be brought together to a group like this or the EDC
infrastructure committee but the bottom line is we must decide the best place to
put this money.
Mr. Timmons said he is supportive of the benefit of land analysis; the foundation
is there, but the problem is we are not evaluating some of the other attributes
critical to economic development - some of this is demographics which drive the
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needs for particular labor forces like health care related service programs-
where will they come from and who will train them, and where will they live?
Private industry is responding to the demographic shift; clues are there in the
BIRFUS study. We must meet the full spectrum of needs so that we know how
to adopt the land analysis to what the needs are. He stated the City is going to
emphasize infrastructure needs as a key part of economic development; he also
noted the City does not have $25,000 of discretionary funding in the current
budget.
Mr. Rodgers stated that he hears a good argument for a market study and that
we must have different ideas of what a business inventory is. He said that a land
inventory includes determining what is the market, what is the demand, and how
does the available land match that.
Tamer Kirac, EDC Director, stated he is here as staff representing EDC and said
that EDC would like to have a board member at the table. He stated there is a
need in the community for economic development and we cannot look at this in a
narrow sense. Economic development occurs interactively; many people work in
the city but live in the county. The study planned by the EDC includes a
cosUbenefit analysis, land inventory is not the entire assignment, and in fact
represents no more than 10-12% of the resources in the study, The study
identifies alternative development and the cosUbenefit associated with each. The
county has fallen behind in wages and salaries and this will result in replacing the
indigenous population with retirees.
Ms. Sandoval stated that if the SOQ had something in it about the market we
could have discussion - there is something missing here because there was
nothing said except regarding the focus on the land bank which then was
switched and changed. There was very little cosUbenefit to the City since it is the
Urban Growth Area and have had studies much broader than providing jobs. We
need affordable housing but can't do it if we don't have the infrastructure. She
stated she would like to make an agreement to start to land bank now for
affordable housing because it doesn't matter what we do if we can't have anyone
afford to live here. When money is scarce, we need to go to basics. She
reiterated that we were not aware of a market portion of the analysis.
Mr. Rodgers left the meeting at 11 :26 am.
Ms. Robinson stated that she also has never heard about the market portion so
there has been some miscommunication about the project.
Mr. Johnson agreed that the SOQ was based toward the land bank; the County
is sitting in a position to move forward, and noted that the Port has not committed
to funding the project either and that has been a disappointment to the County.
JEFFERSON COUNTY
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Coordination Between Citv and Countv of Land Use issues
Land Use Assessment Proiect
It was noted that these issues had been discussed in the previous discussion;
also that the coordination issue was suggested by Mr. Rodgers who was no
longer present.
Zero Tolerance Policv (related to improper conduct bv members of the public)
Mr. Johnson noted that there have been incidents toward County staff involving
both weapons and verbal abuse.
Ms. Robinson asked if the BOCC has adopted a policy regarding inappropriate
language. Mr. Johnson said that staff is working on it.
Mr. Sokol stated people are frustrated by the process. Mr. Johnson said that for
the most part staff is very helpful and courteous and that the process is much
faster here than in most of the areas of the country people are moving from. Ms.
Sandoval stated that permits are more easily acquired here but some customers
simply like to beat the system if they can and beat up on staff in the process.
Mr. Crockett said even if people are frustrated it does not authorize them to
swear or threaten staff. He has heard people said it is worse in Jefferson
County than anywhere else.
Ms. Robinson stated that if elected officials speak to each other disrespectfully
and citizens see it, they think it's okay. She believes the elected bear some
responsibility in our interactions and it is important for us to support our staffs.
Mr. Timmons stated that is a cultural tolerance for abuse and disrespect here;
baby boomers don't want to go into public service because of the bashing of
government by government officials; it is heightened here because of the
isolation and the closed community. He stated we are seeing it a lot within the
City. When the people see an elected official show disrespect or contempt for
the staff either publicly or in private, it becomes more accepted within the
community. Behaviors occur here that are just no accepted other placed.
Mr. Johnson stated that elected officials must support their employees. Ms.
Sandoval stated elected officials must support each other; they should be
comrades even if they disagree. They need to engage with citizens and see
both sides of the issue; although only one decision can be made, other
viewpoints must be seen.
Regarding formula store regulations, Mr. Sullivan asked that the city keep the
county informed about the issue.
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NEXT MEETING
The next meeting was set for Tuesday, September 13, at 10 a.m. at the PUD.
The PUD will notify other entities of their requirements for the deadline for
agenda items.
Mr. Kirac again stated the EDC would like a seat at the table. Ms. Robinson'
stated that this group is elected officials, not non-profit agencies; if there are EDC
issues to be addressed, he can come to any of the four represented bodies and
ask that they add the item to the agenda.
ADJOURN
The meeting was adjourned at 11 :58 a.m.
Minutes submitted by
Pam Kolacy
City Clerk
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