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HomeMy WebLinkAbout038I e E E +i;i .P 9 : o z!L @ @ =c ozoo tru 5 1_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 l-l_ L2 1_3 L4 L5 1_6 L7 r_8 19 2A 2L 22 23 24 25t l_ CPrqLnof - c+q - N115 AcS ]EFFERSON COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT 62]- SHERIDAN STREET PORT TOWNSEND, wASHINGTON 98368 BRTNNoN MASTER eLANNED RESoRT (r.rpn) scoPrNG ueerunc for SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENT IMPACT STATEMENT (SEIS) wednesday, october 28, 2009 5 p.m. Brinnon school Gym, 46 schoolhouse Road, Brinnon, washington NO\/ I 6 200e Reported by valerie nllard, ccR olympic Court Report'ing Services (360) 732-4600 I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 l_0 LL t2 l-3 L4 l_5 L6 L7 l_8 1-9 2o 2A 22 23 24 25 I E o t,. o ozUc @ 6 2Eo ozo6 EU 5 2 INDEX rntroductions, background & Process Applicant' s Presentation public comments cl os'i ng Page 3 3 1_6 28 o t I EI E 3;. .P .P 8 o ozUI @ @ =tro ozo6 GU t_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 t_0 l-l_ t2 r-3 L4 L5 l_6 L7 18 r_9 20 2t 22 23 24 25I 3 BRTNNON, WASHTNGTON; WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2009 5:00 p. m. --ooooo-- MR. SCALF: Good evening. It's six o'clock. Let's get started. r'd like to welcome you. My name is Al scalf from refferson county. r'm the director of community oevelopment. staff here tonight with us is Stacie Hoskins, who's the planning manager. She's the SEPA responsible official, so she is actual'ly the author of the Brinnon Master Plan AUDIENCE MEMBER: Al , I'ln recordi ng you, but I'm not recording you because the ovo is playing. r'm so sorry. MR. SCALF: Phillies, one; Yankees, zero. end oavid wayne lohnson from the :efferson county Department of community oeve-lopment. He is the project p-lanner. so we have three county people here. r hope you've looked at the agenda and the handouts and s'igned yourse'lf up. we appreciate you attending this. rhis is for environmental review of the ptaster planned Resort, so tonight's discussion is what we call "scoping." we are interested in your environmental concerns about the 'impacts associated with the proposal for a Master planned Resort at slack point. so to get started tonight, we're going to let the proponent, Mr. Garth Mann, speak to t L 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 l_0 l_L L2 L3 L4 t-5 16 t7 18 l_9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 I E E i.i d o ozU @ @ =E ozo @ trU 5 t 4 you and introduce this project. Garth, please come forward. MR. MANN: xe11o, everybody. r feel like we're ll old friends because r've done this this is about lto. 18 or 20. so r'm going to do it a little differently this time, because we're going to talk about what people rea'l'ly understand or don't understand about what we're proposing. so first of all, could r have just a show of hands, please, as to peop'le that really feel that they understand qu'ite clearly what it is that pleasant xarbor rqarina and colf Resort is all about. lust how many really fee'l they understand? rhat's quite a few. How many feel they're not quite sure? Okay. So we're going to do that. what we're go'ing to do is introduce the topic of pleasant xarbor trlarina and colf Resort, what it's all about and how it's going to be developed, and some of the plans and the designs that we've incorporated. there is, as t mentioned, a number of meetings that we've been involved in. we've been involved in meetings with the planning Commission, with the soard of county commissioner meetitrgS, meetings with the representatives from :efferson county, meetings w'ith the school , meetings w'ith :efferson Trans'it, meetings w'ith various different community groups, and meetings on a lega1 level on four different occasions. we've had the opportunity to go to court four times and, probably, another I o EI tI I I o ozU l @ o =o ozo @ dU I I L 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 r-0 l_l_ L2 1_3 L4 l_5 1_6 L7 L8 r_9 2A 2L 22 23 24 25 5 one or two, so we certainly have been involved and getting to know a lot of people in the community and letting them understand what it is that we're all about. we're going to show you just a really quick video presentation so that you can get a strong feeljng about what we're about and how "green" we are in terms of protecting the environment, because if there's one thjng that statesman really is admiring about this commun'ity, it's the fact that we can do something that will enhance development that will set standards around the world for qua-lity environmental i ssues i n the ecosystem. so we' re go'i ng to tal k to you about that tonight because r think that's probably the genesis of any objections that people might have. obviously, all of you are here wanting to promote your community. Your community has to grow, it has to deve'lop, and that means you have to retain young people in order to create jobs. rf all the young people leave the commun'ity, obviously, a community dies because reti rees can't sustain a community for long. So we really are looking at building a community, keeping them strong and vital and replacing some tiles that may fa'll on your head tonight and things of that nature, but, rea11y, the 'important thing is protecting the environment and making sure that it gets proper'ly explained. oiane rullman, if you're here r'm just going to I o l_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 r_0 11 L2 l_3 L4 1-5 l_6 L7 r_8 L9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 E d c;.; e o ozUo @ @ EoL ozoo trU I t 6 stay quiet, and r'm going to 1et you just watch this five- or six-minute DVD. rt exp'lains it better than r ever could. rt will show you all of the work that we've done in terms of finding ways of protect'ing the environment, some of the new technologies that r'll talk about tonight. (rhe video was shown.) MR. MANN: the goard of County Commissioners set, -in lanuary of 2008, the criteria that had to be met. nnd so our mandate has been to develop the property, develop the lands, and work within the confines of the various conditions that were required by the Board of county commissioners. what you see in the back of the room represents the addressing of those issues and the minor changes that reflect the original, what we call "FErs" stage. so what we've done is declined the amount of intensification in terms of impervious areas. we've been able to find ways of breaking it down from 70 percent down to roughly 13 or even LZ percent of imperv'ious areas. end we found other ways of preserving one of the kettles and various things that if you read the conditions that were 'imposed on uS, you wi'l'l find that we have been able to satisfy a1l of that within the supp'lemental environmental Impact statement, so from that perspective I'm going to ask anyone i f they have any questi ons , r ' I'l qui ck'ly gi ve you an I I 1_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 1_0 1_l_ L2 l_3 L4 l_5 l_6 L7 r_8 l_9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 q q. B B o ozUc @ o EoI ozoo GU I 7 answer; other than that, w€'re available afterwards to address any questions you might have. other than that, Al, if there's space, r guess r'll sit down. Any questions? r have cop'ies of this DVD that you saw. Anyone that wants a copy, just see me afterwards. rt's something that you can watch in bed at night. rhank you. MR. SCALF: fhank you, Garth. Let's turn to staff, David Wayne Johnson, project Planner, to give a staff report. MR. JoHNsoN: rt's more like a staff update. well, good even'ing, everybody. rhanks for coming tonight. r was thinking here today how many planners there have been on this project, and actually r've been the fourth one. ectua11y, r was the planner who conducted the preapplication conference in January 2006. So we're coming up on four years that this project has been in the works and, needless to say, it's long project and it will continue to be so. so one of the things r want to talk about tonight is the permitting process, where we are right now and where we're go'ing to go and what we need to do to get there; another thing is what do we hope to accomp'l'ish by this meeting tonight; and, fina'|1y, how to keep informed and up to date about the process and deve'lopments during the process. t would like to make sure that everybody that came I I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 l_0 l_l- L2 l_3 L4 15 r_6 L7 L8 1_9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 E EE p I3 : d o ozUc @ 6 =EoLozoo EUo 5 t 8 in signed the sign-in sheet. That's 'important for me to get you on a list so r can keep you up to date and informed. Rlso, if you'd like to testify, we use that sheet to identify you. rf you don't get called during the time period, you can raise your hand at the end of that and still testi fy. nnd so first, when you came 'in and there's still some up there at the s'ign-'in table r had a little handout. we call these "buckets." rt's basical1y the project phases. rf you look at th'is, on the left-hand side is phase 1-. rhat's already been completed. nnd that's the Programmatic EIS SEPA enalysis and the Comprehensive plan Amendments that established the Brinnon Master planned Resort boundary, so that's been done. that was created through an ordinance that the soard of county commissioners passed and adopted in January of 2008. Garth referred to the 30 conditions that they imposed on the resort. one of those conditions was that every project level development after that point would require a eroject tevel environmental Impact statement, so that's the stage we are now. rf you look at phase 2 through 5, it says "project-level sEpA sErs." so we have one more Ers to go, rnvi ronmenta'l rmpact statement. So we' re at the beg-i nni ng stages of that, and scoping is the first part of that. r've got a little arrow that points down the page to show this is I L 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 L0 l_l_ L2 13 L4 l_5 1_6 L7 1_8 r.9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 o E 8 c3i; I I 8 09 o ozUL @ 6 =Eo ozo @ EUo 5 9 where we are today. Part of phase 2 is also the oevelopment Agreement that the developer will sign with the county -- basica'|1y, the commissioners and oeve'lopment negulations. rf you turn over onto the other side of that sheet, it will give you some detail on what those are. rhe regulations include zones, bulk and dimension, setbacks, impervious surfaces, uses, and development standards. the Development Agreement is memorandums with understanding with other agencies, like the school here, the fi re d'istrict, and so forth. easical-ly, you can just refer to that list on that. so the first step in phase 2 is to complete the supplemental rnvironmental rmpact statement. once we get that done, that's going to carry forth through every phase of the rest of the development. so another way you can think about these two Ers's is the Programmatic, the big picture, the 30,000-foot view of the project. we've already done that, it's been finalized; but the detail is in the eroject tevel, which is the supplemental Ers that we're beginn'ing right now. So that's an important one because that's the specific detail that we need to know on what they're p-lann'ing to do and how the environmental impacts will be mitigated for what they're planning to do. so this is an 'important part of this. xow does that process work? well, what we started with was some technical reports. we reviewed those and gaveI I l- 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 l_l_ L2 l_3 L4 l_5 L6 L7 18 L9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 I E q i B; o ozU4 @ @ o ozoo trU 5 I L0 comments back to the applicant. rhe applicant is hired as a consultant to write the Ers, but there are other consultants, the technical people, who produce those reports. rhe scoping that we're here tonight to do is to look at the scope of the environmenta'l 'impact, so that's why your input is important as well as the other agenc'ies who are reviewing this. we need to have yourinput, to have ideas, and to help us to define what that scope is so that we can write a really good Ers. so that's what we're hop'ing to get tonight from you, is ideas and test'imony on that. once we have that, we'll take those comments and we'll produce a draft Ers. rhat draft will be released to the pubfic, you'l1 be able to read it, and you will be able to comment on that. so that's your second opportunity to comment on this project. once we get those comments, we'l1 produce a final Ers, and that will then be fonvarded to the elanning commission, along with the draft oevelopment Agreement and draft Regu'lations, and they will work on that. rhey wtll al so hol d a publ i c hearing, and that's another opportun'i ty for you to speak to the planning commission, because they're go'ing to be working on the actual oevelopment Agreement and negu'lations, along with the Ers. so the Ers identifies the environmenta'l impacts and that are go'ing to have an influence over the oevelopment Agreements and the I I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1-0 l_t_ L2 r-3 L4 l_5 r_6 L7 1_8 l_9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 E t!3 o oz @ @ EoI ozoo Eu 5 I Ll_ Development Regulations. so once the planning commission gets that, they have thei r pubf i c heari ng. rhey' 'l 1 del i be rate on that , and they will make a recommendation to the eoard of county commissioners which alternative and which version of the oevelopment Agreement and Regulations they want to see approved. At that po'int, the soard of county commissioners can either accept their recommendation or they can decide to hol d thei r own pub-l i c heari ng; once aga'i n, another opportunity for you to comment. so that's basically the process for phase 2. r know it's comp'licated, but that's the system we have to work under and the code that's wri tten . Rnd then you can see that once phase 2 is completed, the next step after that is epp'lications for oevelopment Permits, that would be clearing and grad'ing. there's going to be a lot of that excavation and cutting and filling of the site. rhat would be forest practice; they're going to take a lot of trees down for this. rhey''|1 need a permit for that. then we go on to ehase 4; that's where we divide the property into zones and lots. end the final step is the euilding permits phase. so that gives you an idea of where we are in the process and what's coming up. So, as r said, tonight we're going to take your testimony during the public comment per-iod. we want to t l_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 l_0 l_l_ L2 13 L4 l_5 l_6 L7 18 r_9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 I E o q t I I I o ozUI @ 6 o ozo6 tu 5 I L2 focus on the environmental elements because this is all about environmental impacts: rhat would be air, water, wildlife. rhis is not about economic development. we're not interested yet in this process. rt's not about financial feasibi'lity, whether or not we have enough money to build this or not. So we're just going to focus on the environmental elements, your concerns, your ideas about how we can build this out with the least environmentaf impact poss'i bl e. part of th'is, too, is developing from those tomments. xopefully, we'11 get enough of them that we can develop another alternative, which is required under the SEPA law. r'm go'ing to read to you right out of the SEeA code, which is wac L97.LL.440(5)(b), "Reasonable alternatives shall include actions that could feasibly attain or approxirmate a proposal's objectives, but at a lowering environmental cost or decreased level of environmental degradation." so we want to have at least three alternatives. nopefully tonight, we will be able to develop another one and then that will go into the final EIS. so today begins the comment period. rt's going to be 30 days. rf you don't comment tonight, we will accept written comments through November 30, so you can di rect those to me. rhe other part of my job is to keep you I I E q;;; I o ozUI @ o =EoIozoo trU 5 1_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 l_l_ L2 13 L4 1-5 1_6 L7 L8 L9 20 2L 22 23 24 25I 13 informed on the process, So r'm available for that. r have a list now of a lot of people who are interested in this project. rt's an e-mail list. rf you want to get on that list and you're not on'it now, make sure r get your e-dress. you can do that through our web site, which is also another place to check for information. r have a page set up for this project, and you can go there first. rf you don't get your questions answered, you can e-mail me through the web site and r will respond. so r guess that's all r real'ly have to say. r'm going to turn it over to Al for the public comment section of the evening. take it away, Al. MS. HOSKINS: r'm Stacie Xoskins. r'm the planning manager, and r'm the sEPA responsible official. r just wanted to expand a little bit on some of the th'ings that oavid said today. lust for the purpose of the meeting today, r di d want to I et you know that 'if you' re not comfortable coming up and speaking in front of everyone, the court reporter will be available for a period of time after the meeting closes so that you can just one-on-one provide comment, but, of course, you can provide it written through the comment period. rhe other thing r wanted to mention, just to explain perhaps for some people that may not know, a oevelopment Agreement is an agreement between the applicant and the eoard of county commissioners, the county, to freeze I t l_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 t_0 l-l_ L2 l-3 L4 1_5 r_6 L7 r-8 L9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 EI IIa : o ozuL @ o =GoIo 'o6 Eu I I L4 the rules for a period of time so that the project can be built without chang'ing rules that might make it impossible to build what they started. so that's really what a oevelopment Agreement is. r did want to list out the elements of the environment that are in wRc, washington edministrative code, L97.LL.444. rhere's the natural environment and the built environment. rn the natural environment we have earth, which includes geology, soil, topography, unique phys'ica1 features, erosion/enlargement of land area; air, which include air quality, odor, climate; water, surface water movement/quanti ty/qua1ity, runoff absorpt'ion, floods, groundwater movement/quantity/quality, and public water supplies. rt includes plants and animals, which includes habitat for and numbers or diversity of species of plants, fish, and other wildlife, unique species, fish or wildlife migration routes; energy and natural resources, amount requi redlrate of use/efficiency, source/availability, nonrenewabl e resources, conservati on and renewabl e resources, and scenic resources. rn the built environment, we have environmental health, noise, r'isk of explosion, releases or potential releases to the environment affecting public health, such as toxic or hazardous materials. we have land and shoreline use. and in that category is relationship to ex'ist'ing land t 1_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 l-0 1_l_ L2 l-3 L4 15 l_6 L7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 t EI q at B I 9 o ozUc @ @ =Eo ozo @ Eu 5 15 use plans and to estimated population, housing, light and 91are, aesthetics, recreation, historic and cultural preservation, agricultural crops. enother element in the built environment is transportation. rt includes transportation systems, veh'icular traffic, waterborne, rail, and ai r traffic, park'ing, movement/circu'lation of peop-le or goods, and traffic hazards. end the last element of the built environment is public services and utilities, fire, police, schools, parks or other recreational facilities, maintenance, communications, water/storm water, sewer/solid waste, and other governmental services or utilities. Lastly, r did want to underscore that we will not be deliberating any time tonight. we really will be just accepting your comments. we do have a court reporter transcribing that, So we will be looking at these issues as we go forvrard in our environmental reviews. so if you do want to get home to get to the game you're perfectly we'lcome to leave at your leisure, but we hope you will find this fascinating and stay with us. rhank you. MR. SCALF: Thank you, Stacie. rhank you, oavid wayne. As you can see, ultimately the consultant work comes through the county. the county is the final decision-maker and issues the Ers through the sEpA responsible official. rhe public hearing is now open regarding the Brinnon Master planned Report supplement environmentalI I t l_ 2 3 E t q;;i o ozur @ o =eou ozo6 EU 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 L2 l_3 L4 l-5 L6 L7 1_8 L9 20 2L 22 23 24 25I r_6 Impact Statement. rhis is a scoping meeting. rhis is a 'lega1 process. rhere will not be a formal decision through the environmental review. rhey will be examining the envi ronmental impacts associated with the proposal. soth oral and written comments are allowed. rhe floor is now open to the pubf ic. rhe SEPA respons'ible official will hear public comments on the environmental issues on1y. Your testimony is being recorded, therefore, when you speak, begin by stating your name and address, and speak slowly and clearly for the court reporter. each person will be allowed to speak for three minutes. we will start with the names listed on the sign-'in sheet and after that, anyone else who hasn't already spoken and you'd like to give public comment and we didn't call upon you. so, your patience is enjoyed and we'd invite you to the pod-ium. our first person would be? Ms. HosKrNs: :anice and xal nichards? MS. RTCHARDS: we'll pass. Ms. HosKrNS: wendell stroud? MR. srRouD: rs it good luck to be first? MS. HOSKINS: YCS. MR. STROUD: Thank you for this opportunity. My name is wendell stroud, 1208 East E street in tacoma 9842L. t'm with Radon Boats in Tacoma. we were pleased to be selected by statesman corporation to rebuild the marina and t l_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1_0 l_l_ L2 13 L4 15 1_6 t7 l_8 1_9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 o E 33] o ozud @ o =Eo ozo trUa 5 L7 have accomplished part of that, certainly w'ith the he-lp of oon and oiane in management. My contribution to this meeting is really just a first-hand experience with statesman and Garth and their extreme seriousness in bring'ing a project in the most environmentally sensitive just a good project to the community. we're primarily involved in the enlargement part, but r wanted to also say to you that this marina has been examined by the state Department of ttatural Resources and is being used as an example of the type of marina construction they want used throughout Puget sound at the waterfront. so we're proud of that and r think statesman's also proud of that. This just recently happened in their examination. r know that this reconstruction project is one of my persona'l prides and joy because it was done so well and so sensitive to the details that were required by the ownersh'ip. So my message s'imp1y is that my belief is that statesman has had experience in doing great environmenta-l projects and are extremely sensitive to the community and espec'ia11y the environment. rhank you very much. MS. HOSKINS: GENE TATT? MR. FARR: Good evening. I'm Gene Farr, 570 McMinn Road in port rownsend. Although r live up in port Townsend, r'Jn concerned about everything that's going on in lefferson County here. I must say that everything I've seenI I l" 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 l_l_ L2 l_3 L4 l_5 r.6 L7 t-8 L9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 t E g,i B o ozUc @ o =eo ozoo EU l-8 about this development, it looks like these people are on the proper track to ensure that the environment is adequately protected. rn fact, r've even heard that they're cleaning up runoff issues and septic tank issues in the area here that are really detrimental to the environment. r see this whole development as a net plus for the environment here. r recommend that you consider it very seriously, and if some people have some minor d'isagreements, we'd real-ly need to take those into account with all the p'luses that this development brings to this area here. r encourage you to go forward with the development. rhank you. MS. HOSKINS: KATCN TATT? MS. FARR: I'll pass. MS . HosKrNS : rel i c'i ty ch ri stensen . MS. CHRISTENSEN: I'm sorry. f didn't mean to check that. MS. HosKrNs: ran ucrall? MR. McFALL: we1I, as you know, r've been MR. scALF: Name and address, ran? MR. MCFALL: Sorry. Ian ucrall, Brinnon. MR. SCALF: Thank you. MR. McFALL: rs that close enough? MR. scALF: eddress? MR. McFALL: Box 507, Brinnon, 98320. r'd basically like to second what was just said. r think hav'ingI I I l_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 l_l_ !2 l_3 t4 L5 16 L7 r-8 l_9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 E !i iii 9 9 8I o ozUr @ o =Eo ozoocU I I l_9 had a lot of time to really look at what this project's all about, r see one of the most significant environmental developments that r've ever seen in the state of washington. rhe whole water system, and all of the th'ings that they've done to bring this project to where it is, r think it's state of the art. Every little piece of it has actually been proven on a water system that we know works elsewhere. we've got sewer systems that we know work elsewhere. what these guys have managed to do is put it all together in one package, and r think you have to look at it that way. each of these things has already been proven, and all we're trying to do here on this piece of property is bring them all together. r think the eng'ineering people have done an incredib'le job of doing that. and, of course, you a'lready know that as far as economic development this is one of the greatest things that could happen to the county. So even though there will be there's bound to be:- minor object'ions from the environmenta'l point of v'iew, you have to look at the overall picture, and it's got to be a p1us. rhank you. MS. HOSKINS:lohn tlcfay? r'll pass, but r'd like to afterMR. MCKAY: everybody has spoken. MS. HOSKINS: MS. LEWIS: rhank you. garbara Moore lewis? r don't know if this is three minutes I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 L0 l_1_ L2 l_3 L4 l_5 16 L7 r_8 L9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 I E q E t3I o ozBo @ 6 Eouozo @ EU 20 or not, but you can stop me. thank you for the opportunity to speak. MR. scALF: Name and address, p'lease. MS. LEwrs: garbara Moore Lewis, Box 303, Brinnon, washington. earlier today you talked about technical reports that you've reviewed to get to tonight, and I want to talk about one of them and make some comments on it. Subsurface Group, LLc, has prepared a document titled "water supp'ly and Groundwater rmpact analysis." rhe document is dated November 20, 2008 and was date-stamped into the :efferson county Department of Community oevelopment on npril 1, 2009. rhis document was sent for comments to state and local agenc'ies, tribes, and interest groups on June 30, 2008 after an internal review by oCo. Comments were due to oavid lohnson, luly L7, 2009. waterworks consultants submitted comments on behalf of the Brinnon Group at that time. waterworks consultants pointed out significant gaps in the information needed to assess the glack point hydrogeologic system. My remarks are based on the recommendations of watenvorks consultants. what r would say here is that it's rea11y, r think, difficult for citizens to comment on your process when the documents you're using are not being made pubf ic. this was not made public in the usual way, and it was an extremely helpful document, and r think everyone here shouldI I L 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 L0 1-l_ L2 1-3 1,4 l_5 r_6 L7 18 1_9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 t E etI I I : o ozUc @ o eo ozo6 E @ 5 2L read it. rhe summary of recommendations for additional testing, to better understand the hydrogeologic response to the proposed water supply management scheme and its relative'ly sensitive groundwater environment, each of the components of the hydro-cyc'le should be more accurately quantified. rn addition, the aquifer properties must be better defined to design a supply system that does not overstress the aquifer. rhe followjng tests are recommended in order to gather that information: equifer properties/aquifer testing, pump tests should be conducted for a minimum of 72 hours in any wells that might be proposed for water supply purposes -- American campground well, pleasant rides coop well, sam eoling water system, elack point water company, and tt't2. pump tests should be conducted for long enough to generate a measurable drawdown in at least two monitoring wells in the vicin'ity. eumping rate at the pleasant rides coop well should include the 300 ga'llons per minute for existing water rights plus the proposed new withdrawal. Pump testi ng at 1,nt2 shoul d i ncl ude i nstal I ati on of a monitoring well at a location that is as close as existing wells are to the eastern shoreline in line with the t*v2 well. chloride testing of water pumped from the aqu'iferI t t_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 l_0 l_l_ L2 1_3 L4 l_5 L6 L7 l-8 r-9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 t E qi Ba o ozUd @ @ 2Eo ozoo EU 5 I 22 should be done when the uw2 is pump tested. Pump testing at the pleasant rides coop well should include monitoring to water level drawdown and for chloride at the other slack point water company we-|1s, the gabare well, the Tutor we'l'l , and the other Pleasant Harbor beach tract owners wells. seawater intrusion, chloride content in groundwater should be determined in samples collected from wells pumped adjacent to the marine shoreline over the duration of the pump test. At a minimum, one sample should be collected prior to initiation of pumping, another after at least LZ hours of pump'ing, and a third shortly before pump'ing is stopped. More samples provide more confidence in the data collected and the interpretations derived from that data. chloride concentrations between L00 and 200 milligrams per liter indicate wells at moderate risk for seawater intrusion. MS. HosKrNS: garbara? MS. LEWIS: YCS. MS. HOSKINS: You're going to have to -- MS. LEwIS: Okay. I will submit this, and I'm go'ing to submit it by e-mail because there are a number of attachments to it. But you really do need to do much more testing there to know the impact. r have never seen the definition of the amount of water that's available for all of us. r have not seen the definition of the part I l_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 I 10 1l_ L2 L3 L4 l_5 l-6 L7 r.8 1_9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 I E E q 3ii I o o ozUC @ @ =Eo o 6 @ trU 5 I 23 everything that is available that statesman is going to use that respects my water rights. rhank you. MS. HOSKTNS: Thank YoU, garbara. :ohn Rdams? MR. ADAMS: Thanks, Stacie. My name is :ohn edams. r'm the oosewalf ips farm manager. one of the cool things about my job is we get to be the strong advocates of water quality, and in that role r'll be speaking today. we have four key areas that we'd like to have considered by the sErs. Because of the probab'le risk of this project, the demographics, and the uses specific to the project, we believe that they are very worth be'ing deliberated over. tlumber one is septic influences, mainly the gray water from the watershed. rhis is a really neat process, that we're using the gray water, but you don't complete'ly remove hormones, antibiotics, and medicines. end also, we're talking about water del'ivery. aerial delivery of the solution onto it, which is a really neat idea, but we don't completely understand the processes of aerially delivering this water onto the golf course, the accumulation of chemicals phosphorous, n'itrogen onto a steep slope that's perched over a sensitive body of water. we feel like it's deserving of a really good deliberate look and analysis of potential impacts. this one seems odd at first when r ask it, but it makes sense. we'd like to have a rigorous look at the Pet I l_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 L0 l-l- L2 r_3 L4 1_5 r_6 L7 1_8 r_9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 I E o '3! o ozuI @ @ =Eou ozo @ EU t 24 waste program. over the last few'years, we've found that pet waste actually has a very high vector for fecal coliform contamination of the water. For example, one stool from a moderate size dog a retriever, 1ab, whatever -- has enough fecal coliform to contaminate about 100 by l-00 square-foot area of shellfish beds, wh'ich g'ives maybe 1,000 servings of food, gives l-,000 peop'le a really miserable three days. nnd when you look at some of the demographics of peop'le that will be using this area, a Pet waste Program would be a really key component to managing some of the water problem issues. rhe storm water runoff issue is be'ing looked at by statesman corporation, and it's going to get a deliberate look. easica'|1y, we're talking about a lot of vehicles in an intense area. A lot of polyaromatic hydrocarbons, again, right over on top of that sloping substrate or sloping surface terrain adjacent to an existing body of water. And, fina'|1y, we are really asking for an objective assessment of risk to the entire area of inputs and outputs. r bring this up ma'in1y because the initial Ers did a really good job of address'ing risks immediately around pleasant ttarbor, but it really got gray and ambiguous when it talked about that 2,000-meter section contiguous to ouckabush and that was very, very alarming. rt's just a black hole of risk that wasn't there. rhank you very much. I L 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 r.0 1_1 L2 l_3 L4 l_5 r-6 L7 L8 l_9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 t E q.i; o ozUc @ @ =tro ozo @ cu 5 I 25 MS. HosKrNS: Ross Anderson? MR. ANDERSoN : r di dn' t s-i gn up to testi fy. MS. HosKrNS: t-isa :ohnston? MS. IoHNSToN: My name is tisa Johnston, and my address is through the trees, right there. r don't have anything prepared, but r will say that since we're focusing on the environment, ily two main concerns are water and traffi c. rhe last few years have been a lot drier than normal -- we11, normal, r don't knoyu, but it just seems to be getting drier every year. r'm just concerned that trying to use rainwater filling up kettles, r don't know if that's go'ing to be enough to run the resort. r know they have other issues too with water, but r'm concerned about water. r'm concerned about traffic. rf you drive up the canal in the summertime, it's busy already. r mean, there's people coming out a'l'l the time, which is great; but if you add that many more homes, that many more places to stay, that many more cars coming up the Canal , we're go'ing to be having more accidents, and that's just one of my concerns. r have a lot of other issues too, but those are my envi ronmental issues MS. HOSKINS: rhank you. oale :ohnson? AUDTENcE MEMBER: He left. MS. HOSKINS: Paul Loreazen? I I E q]] B .9 o ozUL @ a Eo ozo @ EU @ l_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1l_ L2 r_3 L4 l_5 r_6 L7 1_8 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25t 26 MR. LoREAZEN: My wife and r came here about four years ago -- MR. SCALF: MR. envi ronment. MR. MR. Lane, Brinnon. Name and address? LoREAZEN: -- because we loved the scALF: Name and add ress , p'l ease . LoREAZEN: paul Loreazen, 652 valley view MR. SCALF: Thank you. MR. LoREAZEN: we love the area. we came here because of the environment. r've been, r think, to every presentation the Statesman group has given regarding th'is development and have been qu'ite impressed. r think they're doing very well, and r have no reason to think that they won't proceed in the way they've described. My concern is that there will be development here, there will be more people com'ing, and r have no reason to think that they will take the same care of the envi ronment that the statesman group has described. r think that that, for me, is the most compelling reason to support this group, MS. HOSKINS: Thank you. I don't have anyone else that has checked "Yes," so r'll open it up. rf you'd like to speak, raise your hand and we'Il get to you one at a time. MR. McKAy: My name is :ohn McKay, and r've lived I l_ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 l_0 L1_ L2 L3 L4 15 l_6 L7 r_8 l_9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 t E ,I I ? o gzUe @ o =Eo ozoo trU 5 27 here for about 36 years. MR. scALF: can r have an address, please? MR. McKAY: 7l- arinnon Lane. MR. SCALF: Thank you. MR. MCKAY. I'm sorry, I'm new to the process. I know this has been go'ing on for about four years and r'm not acquainted. My question is on the public's participation, because the public has to trust has a public trust to the officials that oversee development. rhey are professionals, and all of this is being carefu'lly monitored and there's gu'idelines to be followed. so it's a little bit confus'ing to me as to why the public has to be so involved with this process. r mean, it's interesting to fo11ow, and r see great benefits. There's some th'ings that are kind of questionable about traffic, in a genera'l way. r see the development of this area of great asset to the people who live here. rhere's already zoning restrictions, so r don't think overpopulation is going to be a problem. So that's why r'm mostly curious, as to why the public is be'ing so involved. rhank you. MS. HOSKINS: rhank you. would anyone else like to speak? Come on up, George? MR. SICKEL: George Sickel, p.O. Box 228, Brinnon, washi ngton. r'd I i ke to speak 'i n support of thi s project.I I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 r-0 1_1 L2 13 L4 15 16 L7 l-8 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 I q : I 6II: o gzUil @ =EoL ozo6tU I 28 rt's one thing to promise things in the future as to what's going to be done, e'ither that being our county commissioners, our DcD staff, or project builders; but if we look back on what they've already done for us here in the Brinnon community, they've put more than a million dollars into marina improvements. They've replaced the gas dock, which you a1l knew had sunk two or three years ago, they replaced that. They've replaced the pump-out station, all new electrical in the main docks. They're safer now. there was a lot of pollution going into pleasant xarbor before. those have been mitigated. rhere was an invasive species, the runicate, that lvere growing on the docks. those docks are now gone. I think it's just really great. It shows the commitment that this project developer has put into making this really happen and helping out the Brinnon community. rhank you. Ms. HosKrNs: Anyone else? (eudience applause.) MR. scALF: No clapping, please. MS. HOSKINS: Is there anyone else that would like to speak? All right. MR. SCALF: Thank you very much for your comments. oavid wayne, do you have any staff comments, anything in cl os'i ng? MR. IOHNSON: I do notI e I 1- 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1_0 LL L2 13 L4 15 L6 L7 r_8 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 E E q I!i o .9 o ozuc @ o =Eouozoo EU 5 I 29 MR. scALF: stacie, anything in clos'ing? Ms. HOSKTNS: r'd just really like to thank you all for taking time out of your busy schedules to come this evening. we do appreciate your input, and we will consider those comments during our environmental review. please do prov-ide written comments 'if you have something else to say. MR. SCALF: This public meeting is now closed. we thank you for your attendance and look fonvard to participat'ion from you in the future. Goodn'ight. (rhe meeting was adjourned at 7 p.m.)