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JEFFERSON COUNTY
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
621 SHERIDAN STREET
PORT TOWNSEND, WASHINGTON 98368
BRINNON MASTER PLANNED RESORT (MPR)
SCOPING MEETING for
SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENT IMPACT STATEMENT (SEIS)
Wednesday, October 28, 2009
5 p.m.
Brinnon school Gym, 46 schoolhouse Road,
Brinnon, Washington
NOV 16 2009
Reported by Valerie Allard, CCR
Olympic Court Reporting Services
(360)732-4600
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introductions, background & Process
Applicant's Presentation
Public comments
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BRINNON, WASHINGTON; WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2009
5:00 P.M.
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MR. SCALE: Good evening. It's six o'clock.
Let's get started. I'd like to welcome you. My name is
Al scalf from Jefferson County. I'm the director of
community Development. Staff here tonight with us is Stacie
Hoskins, who's the planning manager. she's the SEPA
responsible official, so she is actually the author of the
Brinnon Master Plan -
AUDIENCE MEMBER: Al, I'm recording you, but I'm
not recording you because the DVD is playing. I'm so sorry.
MR. SCALE: Phillies, one; Yankees, zero.
And David Wayne Johnson from the Jefferson county
Department of community Development. He is the project
planner. So we have three county people here. I hope
you've looked at the agenda and the handouts and signed
yourself up. we appreciate you attending this.
This is for environmental review of the Master
Planned Resort, so tonight's discussion is what we call
"scoping." we are interested in your environmental concerns
about the impacts associated with the proposal for a Master
Planned Resort at Black Point. So to get started tonight,
we're going to let the proponent, Mr. Garth Mann, speak to
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you and introduce this project. Garth, please come forward.
MR. MANN: Hello, everybody. I feel like we're 11
old friends because I've done this -- this is about No. 18
or 20. So I'm going to do it a little differently this
time, because we're going to talk about what people really
understand or don't understand about what we're proposing.
so first of all, could I have just a show of hands, please,
as to people that really feel that they understand quite
clearly what it is that Pleasant Harbor Marina and Golf
Resort is all about. Just how many really feel they
understand? That's quite a few. How many feel they're not
quite sure? okay. so we're going to do that. what we're
going to do is introduce the topic of Pleasant Harbor Marina
and Golf Resort, what it's all about and how it's going to
be developed, and some of the plans and the designs that
we've incorporated.
There is, as I mentioned, a number of meetings
that we've been involved in. we've been involved in
meetings with the Planning Commission, with the Board of
County Commissioner meetings, meetings with the
representatives from Jefferson County, meetings with the
school, meetings with Jefferson Transit, meetings with
various different community groups, and meetings on a legal
level on four different occasions. we've had the
opportunity to go to court four times and, probably, another
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you and introduce this project. Garth, please come forward.
MR. MANN: Hello, everybody. I feel like we're 11
old friends because I've done this -- this is about No. 18
or 20. So I'm going to do it a little differently this
time, because we're going to talk about what people really
understand or don't understand about what we're proposing.
so first of all, could I have just a show of hands, please,
as to people that really feel that they understand quite
clearly what it is that Pleasant Harbor Marina and Golf
Resort is all about. Just how many really feel they
understand? That's quite a few. How many feel they're not
quite sure? okay. so we're going to do that. what we're
going to do is introduce the topic of Pleasant Harbor Marina
and Golf Resort, what it's all about and how it's going to
be developed, and some of the plans and the designs that
we've incorporated.
There is, as I mentioned, a number of meetings
that we've been involved in. we've been involved in
meetings with the Planning Commission, with the Board of
County Commissioner meetings, meetings with the
representatives from Jefferson County, meetings with the
school, meetings with Jefferson Transit, meetings with
various different community groups, and meetings on a legal
level on four different occasions. we've had the
opportunity to go to court four times and, probably, another
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one or two. so we certainly have been involved and getting
to know a lot of people in the community and letting them
understand what it is that we're all about.
we're going to show you just a really quick video
presentation so that you can get a strong feeling about what
we're about and how "green" we are in terms of protecting
the environment, because if there's one thing that statesman
really is admiring about this community, it's the fact that
we can do something that will enhance development that will
set standards around the world for quality environmental
issues in the ecosystem. so we're going to talk to you
about that tonight because I think that's probably the
genesis of any objections that people might have.
obviously, all of you are here wanting to promote
your community. Your community has to grow, it has to
develop, and that means you have to retain young people in
order to create jobs. if all the young people leave the
community, obviously, a community dies because retirees
can't sustain a community for long. so we really are
looking at building a community, keeping them strong and
vital -- and replacing some tiles that may fall on your head
tonight -- and things of that nature, but, really, the
important thing is protecting the environment and making
sure that it gets properly explained.
Diane Kullman, if you're here -- I'm just going to
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stay quiet, and I'm going to let you just watch this five -
or six -minute ovo. It explains it better than I ever could.
It will show you all of the work that we've done in terms of
finding ways of protecting the environment, some of the new
technologies that I'll talk about tonight.
(The video was shown.)
MR. MANN: The Board of county commissioners set,
in January of 2008, the criteria that had to be met. And so
our mandate has been to develop the property, develop the
lands, and work within the confines of the various
conditions that were required by the Board of county
commissioners. what you see in the back of the room
represents the addressing of those issues and the minor
changes that reflect the original, what we call "FEIS"
stage.
so what we've done is declined the amount of
intensification in terms of impervious areas. we've been
able to find ways of breaking it down from 70 percent down
to roughly 13 or even 12 percent of impervious areas. And
we found other ways of preserving one of the kettles and
various things that if you read the conditions that were
imposed on us, you will find that we have been able to
satisfy all of that within the supplemental Environmental
Impact statement. So from that perspective I'm going to ask
anyone if they have any questions, I'll quickly give you an
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address any questions you might have. other than that, Al,
if there's space, I guess I'll sit down. Any questions? i
have copies of this DVD that you saw. Anyone that wants a
copy, just see me afterwards. it's something that you can
Thank you.
MR. SCALF: Thank you, Garth.
Let's turn to staff, David wayne Johnson, Project
Planner, to give a staff report.
MR. JOHNSON: it's more like a staff update.
well, good evening, everybody. Thanks for coming tonight.
I was thinking here today how many planners there have been
on this project, and actually I've been the fourth one.
Actually, i was the planner who conducted the preapplication
conference in January 2006. So we're coming up on four
years that this project has been in the works and, needless
to say, it's long project and it will continue to be so.
So one of the things i want to talk about tonight
is the permitting process, where we are right now and where
we're going to go and what we need to do to get there;
another thing is what do we hope to accomplish by this
meeting tonight; and, finally, how to keep informed and up
to date about the process and developments during the
process.
I would like to make sure that everybody that came
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in signed the sign -in sheet. That's important for me to get
you on a.list so I can keep you up to date and informed.
Also, if you'd like to testify, we use that sheet to
identify you. If you don't get called during the time
period, you can raise your hand at the end of that and still
testify.
And so first, when you came in -- and there's
still some up thereat the sign -in table -- I had a little
handout. we call these "buckets." it's basically the
project phases. if you look at this, on the left-hand side
is Phase 1. That's already been completed. And that's the
Programmatic EIS SEPA Analysis and the comprehensive Plan
Amendments that established the Brinnon Master Planned
Resort boundary, so that's been done. That was created
through an ordinance that the Board of county commissioners
passed and adopted in January of 2008. Garth referred to
the 30 conditions that they imposed on the resort. one of
those conditions was that every project level development
after that point would require a Project Level Environmental
Impact Statement, so that's the stage we are now.
If you look at Phase 2 through 5, it says
"Project -level SEPA SEIS." So we have one more EIS to go,
Environmental Impact Statement. So we're at the beginning
stages of that, and scoping is the first part of that. I've
got a little arrow that points down the page to show this is
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where we are today. Part of Phase 2 is also the Development
Agreement that the developer will sign with the county --
basically, the commissioners -- and Development Regulations.
(surfaces, uses, and development standards. The Development
Agreement is memorandums with understanding with other
agencies, like the school here, the fire district, and so
forth. Basically, you can just refer to that list on that.
so the first step in Phase 2 is to complete the
supplemental Environmental Impact Statement. once we get
that done, that's going to carry forth through every phase
of the rest of the development. so another way you can
think about these two EIs's is the Programmatic, the big
picture, the 30,000 -foot view of the project. we've already
done that, it's been finalized; but the detail is in the
Project Level, which is the supplemental EIS that we're
beginning right now. so that's an important one because
that's the specific detail that we need to know on what
they're planning to do and how the environmental impacts
will be mitigated for what they're planning to do. so this
is an important part of this.
How does that process work? well, what we started
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comments back to the applicant. The applicant is hired as a
consultant to write the EIS, but there are other
consultants, the technical people, who produce those
reports. The scoping that we're here tonight to do is to
look at the scope of the environmental impact, so that's why
your input is important as well as the other agencies who
are reviewing this. we need to have your input, to have
ideas, and to help us to define what that scope is so that
we can write a really good EIS. So that's what we're hoping
to get tonight from you, is ideas and testimony on that.
once we have that, we'll take those comments and we'll
produce a draft EIS. That draft will be released to the
public, you'll be able to read it, and you will be able to
comment on that. So that's your second opportunity to
comment on this project.
once we get those comments, we'll produce a final
EIS, and that will then be forwarded to the Planning
commission, along with the draft Development Agreement and
draft Regulations, and they will work on that. They will
also hold a public hearing, and that's another opportunity
for you to speak to the Planning commission, because they're
going to be working on the actual Development Agreement and
Regulations, along with the EIS. so the EIS identifies the
environmental impacts and that are going to have an
influence over the Development Agreements and the
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comments back to the applicant. The applicant is hired as a
consultant to write the EIS, but there are other
consultants, the technical people, who produce those
reports. The scoping that we're here tonight to do is to
look at the scope of the environmental impact, so that's why
your input is important as well as the other agencies who
are reviewing this. we need to have your input, to have
ideas, and to help us to define what that scope is so that
we can write a really good EIS. So that's what we're hoping
to get tonight from you, is ideas and testimony on that.
once we have that, we'll take those comments and we'll
produce a draft EIS. That draft will be released to the
public, you'll be able to read it, and you will be able to
comment on that. So that's your second opportunity to
comment on this project.
once we get those comments, we'll produce a final
EIS, and that will then be forwarded to the Planning
commission, along with the draft Development Agreement and
draft Regulations, and they will work on that. They will
also hold a public hearing, and that's another opportunity
for you to speak to the Planning commission, because they're
going to be working on the actual Development Agreement and
Regulations, along with the EIS. so the EIS identifies the
environmental impacts and that are going to have an
influence over the Development Agreements and the
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Development Regulations.
so once the Planning commission gets that, they
have their public hearing. They'll deliberate on that, and
they will make a recommendation to the Board of county
commissioners which alternative and which version of the
Development Agreement and Regulations they want to see
approved. At that point, the Board of county commissioners
can either accept their recommendation or they can decide to
hold their own public hearing; once again, another
opportunity for you to comment. so that's basically the
(process for Phase 2. z know it's complicated, but that's
the system we have to work under and the code that's
written.
And then you can see that once Phase 2 is
completed, the next step after that is Applications for
Development Permits, that would be clearing and grading.
There's going to be a lot of that excavation and cutting and
filling of the site. That would be forest practice; they're
going to take a lot of trees down for this. They'll need a
permit for that. Then we go on to Phase 4; that's where we
divide the property into zones and lots. And the final step
is the Building Permits phase. so that gives you an idea of
where we are in the process and what's coming up.
so, as t said, tonight we're going to take your
testimony during the public comment period. we want to
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focus on the environmental elements because this is all
about environmental impacts: That would be air, water,
wildlife. This is not about economic development. we're
not interested yet in this process. it's not about
financial feasibility, whether or not we have enough money
to build this or not. So we're just going to focus on the
environmental elements, your concerns, your ideas about how
we can build this out with the least environmental impact
possible.
Part of this, too, is developing from those
Comments. Hopefully, we'll get enough of them that we can
develop another alternative, which is required under the
SEPA law. I'm going to read to you right out of the SEPA
Code, which is WAC 197.11.440(5)(b), "Reasonable
alternatives shall include actions that could feasibly
attain or approximate a proposal's objectives, but at a
lowering environmental cost or decreased level of
environmental degradation." So we want to have at least
three alternatives. Hopefully tonight, we will be able to
develop another one and then that will go into the final
EIS.
So today begins the comment period. it's going to
be 30 days. If you don't comment tonight, we will accept
written comments through November 30, so you can direct
those to me. The other part of my job is to keep you
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informed on the process, so I'm available for that. I have
a list now of a lot of people who are interested in this
project. It's an e-mail list. If you want to get on that
list and you're not on it now, make sure 19et your e -dress.
You can do that through our web site, which is also another
place to check for information. I have a page set up for
this project, and you can go there first. If you don't get
your questions answered, you can me through the web
site and I will respond. so I guess that's all I really
have to say. I'm going to turn it over to Al for the public
comment section of the evening. Take it away, Al.
MS. HOSKINS: I'm Stacie Hoskins. I'm the
planning manager, and I'm the SEPA responsible official. I
just wanted to expand a little bit on some of the things
that David said today. gust for the purpose of the meeting
today, I di& want to let you know that if you're not
comfortable coming up and speaking in front of everyone, the
court reporter will be available for a period of time after
the meeting closes so that you can just one-on-one provide
comment, but, of course, you can provide it written through
the comment period.
The other thing I wanted to mention, just to
explain perhaps for some people that may not know, a
Development Agreement is an agreement between the applicant
and the Board of County Commissioners, the County, to freeze
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1197.11.444. There's the natural environment and the built
which includes geology, soil, topography, unique physical
features, erosion/enlargement of land area; air, which
include air quality, odor, climate; water, surface water
movement/quantity/quality, runoff absorption, floods,
groundwater movement/quantity/quality, and public water
supplies. it includes plants and animals, which includes
habitat for and numbers or diversity of species of plants,
fish, and other wildlife, unique species, fish or wildlife
migration routes; energy and natural resources, amount
required/rate of use/efficiency, source/availability,
(nonrenewable resources, conservation and renewable
(resources, and scenic resources.
In the built environment, we have environmental
health, noise, risk of explosion, releases or potential
releases to the environment affecting public health, such as
toxic or hazardous materials. we have land and shoreline
use. And in that category is relationship to existing land
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use plans and to estimated population, housing, light and
glare, aesthetics, recreation, historic and cultural
preservation, agricultural crops. Another element in the
built environment is transportation. it includes
transportation systems, vehicular traffic, waterborne, rail,
and air traffic, parking, movement/circulation of people or
goods, and traffic hazards. And the last element of the
lbuilt environment is public services and utilities, fire,
police, schools, parks or other recreational facilities,
Lastly, i did want to underscore that we will not
we really will be just
accepting your comments. we do have a court reporter
transcribing that, so we will be looking at these issues as
we go forward in our environmental reviews. so if you do
want to get home to get to the game you're perfectly welcome
to leave at your leisure, but we hope you will find this
fascinating and stay with us. Thank you.
MR. SCAtF: Thank you, Stacie. Thank you, David
Wayne. As you can see, ultimately the consultant work comes
through the county. The county is the final decision -maker
and issues the EIS through the SEPA responsible official.
The public hearing is now open regarding the
Brinnon Master Planned Report Supplement Environmental
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Impact Statement. This is a scoping meeting. This is a
legal process. There will not be a formal decision through
the environmental review. They will be examining the
environmental impacts associated with the proposal. Both
oral and written comments are allowed. The floor is now
open to the public. The SEPA responsible official will hear
public comments on the environmental issues only. Your
testimony is being recorded, therefore, when you speak,
begin by stating your name and address, and speak slowly and
clearly for the court reporter. Each person will be allowed
to speak for three minutes. we will start with the names
listed on the sign -in sheet and after that, anyone else who
hasn't already spoken and you'd like to give public comment
and we didn't call upon you. so, your patience is enjoyed
and we'd invite you to the podium. our first person would
be?
MS. HOSKINS: Janice and Hal Richards?
MS. RICHARDS: we'll pass.
MS. HOSKINS: Wendell Stroud?
MR. STROUD: Is it good luck to be first?
MS. HOSKINS: Yes.
MR. STROUD: Thank you for this opportunity. My
name is Wendell Stroud, 1208 East E Street in Tacoma 98421.
I'm with Radon Boats in Tacoma. we were pleased to be
selected by statesman Corporation to rebuild the marina and
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Impact Statement. This is a scoping meeting. This is a
legal process. There will not be a formal decision through
the environmental review. They will be examining the
environmental impacts associated with the proposal. Both
oral and written comments are allowed. The floor is now
open to the public. The SEPA responsible official will hear
public comments on the environmental issues only. Your
testimony is being recorded, therefore, when you speak,
begin by stating your name and address, and speak slowly and
clearly for the court reporter. Each person will be allowed
to speak for three minutes. we will start with the names
listed on the sign -in sheet and after that, anyone else who
hasn't already spoken and you'd like to give public comment
and we didn't call upon you. so, your patience is enjoyed
and we'd invite you to the podium. our first person would
be?
MS. HOSKINS: Janice and Hal Richards?
MS. RICHARDS: we'll pass.
MS. HOSKINS: Wendell Stroud?
MR. STROUD: Is it good luck to be first?
MS. HOSKINS: Yes.
MR. STROUD: Thank you for this opportunity. My
name is Wendell Stroud, 1208 East E Street in Tacoma 98421.
I'm with Radon Boats in Tacoma. we were pleased to be
selected by statesman Corporation to rebuild the marina and
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Don and Diane in management. My contribution to this
meeting is really just a first-hand experience with
statesman and Garth and their extreme seriousness in
bringing a project in the most environmentally sensitive --
just a good project to the community.
we're primarily involved in the enlargement part,
1but I wanted to also say to you that this marina has been
examined by the state Department of Natural Resources and is
being used as an example of the type of marina construction
they want used throughout Puget sound at the waterfront. so
we're proud of that and I think statesman's also proud of
that. This just recently happened in their examination. I
know that this reconstruction project is one of my personal
prides and joy because it was doneso well and so sensitive
to the details that were required by the ownership. so my
message simply is that my belief is that statesman has had
experience in doing great environmental projects and are
extremely sensitive to the community and especially the
(environment. Thank you very much.
MS. HOSKINS: Gene Farr?
MR. FARR: Good evening. I'm Gene Farr, 570
McMinn Road in Port Townsend. Although I live up in Port
Townsend, I'm concerned about everything that's going on in
Jefferson county here. I must say that everything I've seen
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M.,
about this development, it looks like these people are on
the proper track to ensure that the environment is
adequately protected. in fact, I've even heard that they're
cleaning up runoff issues and septic tank issues in the area
here that are really detrimental to the environment. I see
this whole development as a net plus for the environment
here. I recommend that you consider it very seriously, and
if some people have some minor disagreements, we'd really
need to take those into account with all the pluses that
this development brings to this area here. I encourage you
to go forward with the development. Thank you.
MS. HOSKINS: Karen Farr?
MS. FARR: I'll pass.
MS. HOSKINS: Felicity Christensen.
MS. CHRISTENSEN: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to
Icheck that.
MS. HOSKINS: Ian McFall?
MR. MCFALL: well, as you know, I've been --
MR. SCALF: Name and address, Ian?
MR. MCFALL: Sorry. Ian McFall, Brinnon.
MR. SCALF: Thank you.
MR. MCFALL: Is that close enough?
MR. SCALF: Address?
MR. MCFALL: Box 507, Brinnon, 98320. -I'd
basically like to second what was just said. I think having
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had a lot of time to really look at what this project's all
about, I see one of the most significant environmental
developments that I've ever seen in the state of Washington.
The whole water system, and all of the things that they've
done to bring this project to where it is, I think it's
state of the art. Every little piece of it has actually
been proven on a water system that we know works elsewhere.
we've got sewer systems that we know work elsewhere.
what these guys have managed to do is put it all
together in one package, and I think you have to look at it
that way. Each of these things has already been proven, and
all we're trying to do here on this piece of property is
bring them all together. I think the engineering people
have done an incredible job of doing that. And, of course,
you already know that as far as economic development this is
one of the greatest things that could happen to the county.
so even though there will be -- there's bound to be ;- minor
objections from the environmental point of view, you have to
look at the overall picture, and it's got to be a plus.
Thank you.
MS. HOSKINS: john McKay?
MR. MCKAY: I'll pass, but I'd like to after
everybody has spoken.
MS. HOSKINS: Thank you. Barbara Moore Lewis?
MS. LEWIS: I don't know if this is three minutes
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jor not, but you can stop me. Thank you for the opportunity
(to speak.
MR. SCALE: Name and address, please.
MS. LEWIS: Barbara Moore Lewis, Box 303, Brinnon,
Washington. Earlier today you talked about technical
reports that you've reviewed to get to tonight, and I want
to talk about one of them and make some comments on it.
subsurface Group, LLC, has prepared a document titled "water
Supply and Groundwater Impact Analysis." The document is
dated November 20, 2008 and was date-stamped into the
Jefferson county Department of Community Development on
April 1, 2009. This document was sent for comments to state
and local agencies, tribes, and interest groups on June 30,
2008 after an internal review by DCD. comments were due to
David Johnson, July 17, 2009. waterworks Consultants
submitted comments on behalf of the Brinnon Group at that
time. waterworks Consultants pointed out significant gaps
in the information needed to assess the Black Point
hydrogeologic system. My remarks are based on the
recommendations of waterworks Consultants.
what I would say here is that it's really, I
think, difficult for citizens to comment on your process
when the documents you're using are not being made public.
This was not made public in the usual way, and it was an
extremely helpful document, and I think everyone here should
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The summary of recommendations for additional
testing, to better understand the hydrogeologic response to
the proposed water supply management scheme and its
relatively sensitive groundwater environment, each of the
components of the hydro -cycle should be more accurately
quantified. In addition, the aquifer properties must be
better defined to design a supply system that does not
overstress the aquifer. The following tests are recommended
in order to gather that information: Aquifer
properties/aquifer testing, pump tests should be conducted
for a minimum of 72 hours in any wells that might be
proposed for water supply purposes -- American campground
well, Pleasant Tides coop well, Sam Boling water system,
Black Point water company, and Mw2.
Pump tests should be conducted for long enough to
generate a measurable drawdown in at least two monitoring
wells in the vicinity. Pumping rate at the Pleasant Tides
coop well should include the 300 gallons per minute for
existing water rights plus the proposed new withdrawal.
Pump testing at Mw2 should include installation of a
monitoring well at a location that is as close as existing
wells are to the eastern shoreline in line with the Mw2
well.
chloride testing of water pumped from the aquifer
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should be done when the Mw2 is pump tested. Pump testing at
the Pleasant Tides coop well should include monitoring to
water level drawdown and for chloride at the other Black
Point water company wells, the Babare well, the Tutor well,
and the other Pleasant Harbor beach tract owners wells.
seawater intrusion, chloride content in
groundwater should be determined in samples collected from
wells pumped adjacent to the marine shoreline over the
duration of the pump test. At a minimum, one sample should
be collected prior to initiation of pumping, another after
at least 12 hours of pumping, and a third shortly before
pumping is stopped. more samples provide more confidence in
the data collected and.the interpretations derived from that
data. chloride concentrations between 100 and 200
milligrams per liter indicate wel 1 s at moderate risk for
seawater intrusion.
MS. HOSKINS: Barbara?
MS. LEWIS: Yes.
MS. HOSKINS: You're going to have to --
MS. LEWIS: Okay. I will submit this, and I'm
going to submit it by e-mail because there are a number of
attachments to it. But you really do need to do much more
testing there to know the impact. I have never seen the
definition of the amount of water that's available for all
of us. I have not seen the definition of the part --
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should be done when the Mw2 is pump tested. Pump testing at
the Pleasant Tides coop well should include monitoring to
water level drawdown and for chloride at the other Black
Point water company wells, the Babare well, the Tutor well,
and the other Pleasant Harbor beach tract owners wells.
seawater intrusion, chloride content in
groundwater should be determined in samples collected from
wells pumped adjacent to the marine shoreline over the
duration of the pump test. At a minimum, one sample should
be collected prior to initiation of pumping, another after
at least 12 hours of pumping, and a third shortly before
pumping is stopped. more samples provide more confidence in
the data collected and.the interpretations derived from that
data. chloride concentrations between 100 and 200
milligrams per liter indicate wel 1 s at moderate risk for
seawater intrusion.
MS. HOSKINS: Barbara?
MS. LEWIS: Yes.
MS. HOSKINS: You're going to have to --
MS. LEWIS: Okay. I will submit this, and I'm
going to submit it by e-mail because there are a number of
attachments to it. But you really do need to do much more
testing there to know the impact. I have never seen the
definition of the amount of water that's available for all
of us. I have not seen the definition of the part --
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John Adams?
MR. ADAMS: Thanks, Stacie. My name is John
Adams. I'm the Dosewallips farm manager. one of the cool
things about my job is we get to be the strong advocates of
water quality, and in that role I'll be speaking today. we
have four key areas that we'd like to have considered by the
SEIS. Because of the probable risk of this project, the
demographics, and the uses specific to the project, we
believe that they are very worth being deliberated over.
Number one is septic influences, mainly the gray
water from the watershed. This is a really neat process,
that we're using the gray water, but you don't completely
remove hormones, antibiotics, and medicines. And also,
we're talking about water delivery. Aerial delivery of the
solution onto it, which is a really neat idea, but we don't
completely understand the processes of aerially delivering
this water onto the golf course, the accumulation of
chemicals -- phosphorous, nitrogen -- onto a steep slope
that's perched over a sensitive body of water. we feel like
it's deserving of a really good deliberate look and analysis
of potential impacts.
This one seems odd at first when I ask it, but it
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contamination of the water. For example, one stool from a
moderate size dog -- a retriever, lab, whatever -- has
enough fecal coliform to contaminate about 100 by 100
square -foot area of shellfish beds, which gives maybe 1,000
servings of food, gives 1,000 people a really miserable
three days. And when you look at some of the demographics
of people that will be using this area, a Pet waste Program
Iwould be a really key component to managing some of the
water problem issues
The storm water runoff issue is being looked at by
an intense area. A lot of polyaromatic hydrocarbons, again,
right over on top of that sloping substrate or sloping
surface terrain adjacent to an existing body of water.
And, finally, we are really asking for an
objective assessment of risk to the entire area of inputs
and outputs. z bring this up mainly because the initial EIS
did a really good job of addressing risks immediately around
Pleasant Harbor, but it really got gray and ambiguous when
it talked about that 2,000 -meter section contiguous to
Duckabush and that was very, very alarming. it's just a
black hole of risk that wasn't there. Thank you very much.
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MS. HOSKINS: Ross Anderson?
MR. ANDERSON: I didn't sign up to testify.
MS. HOSKINS: Lisa Johnston?
MS. JOHNSTON: My name is Lisa Johnston, and my
address is through the trees, right there. I don't have
anything prepared, but I will say that since we're focusing
on the environment, my two main concerns are water and
traffic.
The last few years have been a lot drier than
normal -- well, normal, I don't know, but it just seems to
be getting drier every year. I'm just concerned that trying
to use rainwater filling up kettles, I don't know if that's
going to be enough to run the resort. I know they have
other issues too with water, but I'm concerned about water.
I'm concerned about traffic. If you drive up the
canal in the summertime, it's busy already. I mean, there's
people coming out all the time, which is great; but if you
add that many more homes, that many more places to stay,
that many more cars coming up the canal, we're going to be
having more accidents, and that's just one of my concerns.
I have a lot of other issues too, but those are my
environmental issues.
MS. HOSKINS: Thank you. Dale Johnson?
AUDIENCE MEMBER: He left.
MS. HOSKINS: Paul Loreazen?
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MS. HOSKINS: Ross Anderson?
MR. ANDERSON: I didn't sign up to testify.
MS. HOSKINS: Lisa Johnston?
MS. JOHNSTON: My name is Lisa Johnston, and my
address is through the trees, right there. I don't have
anything prepared, but I will say that since we're focusing
on the environment, my two main concerns are water and
traffic.
The last few years have been a lot drier than
normal -- well, normal, I don't know, but it just seems to
be getting drier every year. I'm just concerned that trying
to use rainwater filling up kettles, I don't know if that's
going to be enough to run the resort. I know they have
other issues too with water, but I'm concerned about water.
I'm concerned about traffic. If you drive up the
canal in the summertime, it's busy already. I mean, there's
people coming out all the time, which is great; but if you
add that many more homes, that many more places to stay,
that many more cars coming up the canal, we're going to be
having more accidents, and that's just one of my concerns.
I have a lot of other issues too, but those are my
environmental issues.
MS. HOSKINS: Thank you. Dale Johnson?
AUDIENCE MEMBER: He left.
MS. HOSKINS: Paul Loreazen?
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MR. LOREAZEN: My wife and I came here about four
years ago --
MR. SCALF: Name and address?
MR. LOREAZEN: -- because we loved the
environment.
MR. SCARF: Name and address, please.
MR. LOREAZEN: Paul Loreazen, 652 valley view
Lane, Brinnon.
MR. SCALF: Thank you.
MR. LOREAZEN: we love the area. we came here
because of the environment. I've been, I think, to every
presentation the Statesman group has given regarding this
development and have been quite impressed. z think they're
doing very well, and I have no reason to think that they
won't proceed in the way they've described. My concern is
that there will be development here, there will be more
people coming, and I have no reason to think that they will
take the same care of the environment that the statesman
group has described. I think that that, for me, is the most
compelling reason to support this group.
MS. HOSKINS: Thank you. I don't have anyone else
that has checked "Yes," so I'll open it up. If you'd like
to speak, raise your hand and we'll get to you one at a
time.
MR. MCKAY: My name is John McKay, and I've lived
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here for about 36 years.
MR. SCALE: Can I have an address, please?
MR. McKAY: 71 Brinnon Lane.
MR. SCALF: Thank you.
MR. MCKAY. I'm sorry, I'm new to the process. I
know this has been going on for about four years and I'm not
acquainted. My question is on the public's participation,
because the public has to trust -- has a public trust to the
officials that oversee development. They are professionals,
and all of this is being carefully monitored and there's
guidelines to be followed. so it's a little bit confusing
to me as to why the public has to be so involved with this
process.
I mean, it's interesting to follow, and I see
great benefits. There's some things that are kind of
questionable about traffic, in a general way. I see the
development of this area of great asset to the people who
live here . There's already zoning restrictions, so I don't
think overpopulation is going to be a problem. So that's
why I'm mostly curious, as to why the public is being so
involved. Thank you.
MS. HOSKINS: Thank you. would anyone else like
to speak? Come on up, George?
MR. SICKEL: George Sickel, P.O. Box 228, Brinnon,
Washington. I'd like to speak in support of this project.
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It's one thing to promise things in the future as to what's
going to be done, either that being our county
commissioners, our DCD staff, or project builders; but if we
look back on what they've already done for us here in the
Brinnon community, they've put more than a million dollars
into marina improvements. They've replaced the gas dock,
which you all knew had sunk two or three years ago, they
replaced that. They've replaced the pump -out station, all
new electrical in the main docks. They're safer now. There
was a lot of pollution going into Pleasant Harbor before.
Those have been mitigated. There was an invasive species,
the Tunicate, that were growing on the docks. Those docks
are now gone. I think it's just really great. It shows the
commitment that this project developer has put into making
this really happen and helping out the Brinnon community.
Thank you.
MS. HOSKINS: Anyone else?
(Audience applause.)
MR. SCALF: No clapping, please.
MS. HOSKINS: is there anyone else that would like
to speak? All right.
MR. SCALF: Thank you very much for your comments.
David wayne, do you have any staff comments, anything in
closing?
MR. JOHNSON: I do not.
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MR. SCALF: Stacie, anything in closing?
MS. HOSKINS: I'd just really like to thank you
all for taking time out of your busy schedules to come this
evening. we do appreciate your input, and we will consider
those comments during our environmental review. please do
provide written comments if you have something else to say.
MR. SCALE: This public meeting is now closed. we
(thank you for your attendance and look forward to
participation from you in the future. Goodnight.
(The meeting was adjourned at 7 p.m.)