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From: Chief Herbst [bobh@brinnonfire. org]
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 8:53 AM
To: David W. Johnson -,'Don Coleman'
Cc: Stacie Hoskins; Al Scalf; VMorrisCS@aol.com; Commissioner Garrison; Commissioner
Smith; FF/EMT-B K. McEdwards
Subject: RE: healthcare MOU
David/Don
Given that in urban areas, where I believe that all 3 BOCC members came from, EMS service
is provided by a private ambulance company. Such as AMR in Seattle. That experience may be where
that separation came from.
Given that EMS falls under the Brinnon. Fl) jurisdiction a separate MOU or MOA is not
needed. Especially given that you would have to have one with every hospital within 150 miles.
Since a patient can and is transported by air or ground to the facility that can provide the definitive
level of care, they need.
This situation is already covered under General Responsibilities Section 1, sub section 1.2, of
draft number 6, of the MOU between the .Resort and the Brinnon FD.
f^ire Chief Bob Herbst
EMT -Intermediate
Brinnon fire I)epartrnent
WW W.brinnonfire.org
Phone: 360-796-4450
Cell: 360-301-3439
From: David W. Johnson[maiIto: dwjohnson@co.jefferson.wa.us]
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 8:38 AM
To: Don Coleman
Cc: Chief Herbst; Stacie Hoskins; Al Scalf; VMorrisCS@aol.com
Subject: RE: healthcare MOU
M.
Good question.
The BoCC condition #c states, "The project developer will be required to negotiate memoranda of understanding
(MOU) or memoranda of agreement (MOA) to provide needed support for the Brinnon school, fire district,
Emergency Medical Services (EMS), housing, police, public health, parks and recreation, and transit prior to
approval of the development agreement."
Emergency medical services (abbreviated to the initialism "EMS" in some countries) are type of
emergency service dedicated to providing out-of-hospital acute medical care and/or transport to
definitive care, to patients with illnesses and injuries which the patient, or the medical practitioner,
believes constitutes a medical emergency. The use of the term emergency medical services may refer
solely to the pre -hospital element of the care, or be part of an integrated system of care, including the
main care provider, such as a hospital.
Emergency medical services may also be locally known as: first aid squad, emergency squad,t3J rescue
sguad,t't ambulance squad,L1 ambulance service,U ambulance corps L71 or life squad?J
The goal of most emergency medical services is to either provide treatment to those in need of urgent
medical care, with the goal of satisfactorily treating the presenting conditions, or arranging for timely
removal of theatp ient to the next point of definitive care. This is most likely an emergency department
at a hospital or another place where physicians are available. The term emergency medical service
evolved to reflect a change from a simple system of ambulances providing only transportation, to a
system in which actual medical care is given on scene and during transport.
My understanding of this is that the Brinnon Fire District is an EMS provider and would be the first responder to
a medical emergency at the Resort. I don't believe we're talking about hospitals here, just emergency medical
treatment and/or transport to another location where adequate care can be provided. Therefore, it seems
reasonable to assume that the condition for an EMS MOU could be folded into the MOU with the Fire District.
Any thoughts, Bob, Al, Stacie?
From: Don Coleman [mailto:don@pleasantharbormarina.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 3:21 PM
To: David W. Johnson
Cc: VMorrisCS@aol.com
Subject: FW: healthcare MOU
Hi Mr. Johnson,
Regarding Health Care MOD's, I talked to Bob Apple the CEO of Mason General Hospital. He does
not understand why we need an agreement with them. His comment is the agreement needs to be with
transport agency or the local EMS service. I tried to explain that it came up in prior comments that local
EMS sometimes transports to Mason General and Jefferson County has asked for the agreement. He
will want to see some reference that specifies an agreement is needed with Mason General Hospital.
Can you give me the specifics of how/why Jefferson County requires this agreement with Mason
General Hospital? Or will it be sufficient to get a statement from Mason General Hospital that they do
not see the need for or require an agreement?
The only place I know of that mentions Mason General Hospital is the FEIS item 3.5.3 page 3-60. If
this is the only reference to Mason General Hospital and an agreement is required I will send the
reference to Mr. Apple and continue to work on an agreement acceptable to them.
Thanks for your help. I hope you have a Great Christmas Holiday!
don
Don Coleman
Pleasant Harbor Marina
Maintenance and Security supervisor
don@pleasantharbormarina.com
Cell: 206-714-1482
From: VMorrisCS@aol.com [mailto:VMorrisCS@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 2:00 PM
To: don@pleasantharbormarina.com
Subject: Re: healthcare MOU
In a message dated 12/22/2010 11:38:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, don@pleasantharbormarina.com writes:
The only place I know of that mentions Mason General Hospital is the FEIS item 3.5.3 page 3-
60. If this is the only reference to Mason General Hospital and an agreement is required I will
send the reference to Mr. Apple and continue to work on an agreement acceptable to them.
I am not aware of anything else. I was not involved with the project at the time the FEIS was prepared and the
County Commissioners wrote their conditions of approval. You could check with David Wayne Johnson to see if
he can offer any additional clarification.
Vicki
Vicki Morris Consulting Services
7732 18th Avenue NE
Seattle, WA 98115-4426
206.522.8057
FAX: 206.523.4648
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