HomeMy WebLinkAbout143Session Report - Standard 2017-08-14 13.58 BOCC 081417
BOCC August 14, 2017 afternoon
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8/14/2017 Other Superior Court
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1:58:26 PM Session Started
1:58:34 PM reconvene
Note: Clerk, Superior in the superior court room. These notes may contain spelling/factual
errors.
1:58:53 PM BRIEFING - Project Update and Status Report on Plesant Harbor Master Planned Resort
Note: Clerk, Superior Matt Sircerly, Tom GIske, David Sullivan, Kathleen Kler, Kate Dean,
Lorna Smith, Cynthia Koan, Mark Evans. Philip Morley, Phil
hunsucker, patty charnas, michelle farfan all present. Patty Charnas
- Director of DCD. Passed out copies of the slideshow. Over view of
the Pleasant Harbor MPR. Brief overview of proposed project,
history, detailed overview of two key elements of MPR designation,
dev agreement; purpose and item it contains as well as the dev
regulations. When we scheduled this briefing, we anticipated to
circulate the first public draft, it is unavailalbe for this briefing.
Because she is still relatively new director with the county, invites
morley to add where he believes good points need to be made.
Physical location shown on a map. Supports residential and some
commercial. She is going off of the power point presentation and
handout. Morley 2:14 explained Environmental Impact Statement.
Commissioners make informed decisions based on EIS, it is the env'l
disclosure statement that helps make those decisions. Kler - how
long was this open for public comment? Patty - an adequate amount
over the years. About 100 comments commenting on impacts, and
quality of life. She went on to explain the project process slide 12.
Correction to slide 12, should say 2016 consultations with PGST and
County. PGST Port Gamble Skallam Tribe. Forwarded to bocc in july
of last year, which voiced concerns about process and project as a
whole. Tribal consultations included 3 staff level meetings re: dev
agreement.. tribal consultations continue, and are still ongoing. 2
key public documents set forth mandates on developing and
operating the MPR. Ordinance 02-01128-08 and FSEIS. 2:28.. end of
slideshow. Morley - in the slide re: finalizing the dev agreement -
finalizing a proposal of a dev agreement, subject to review and
public comment. Allowing for a significant amount of time between
setting of meeting to time hearing is - about 60 days. Allows for -
makes sure there is adequate time, public, all interested parties...
and staff proposed revisions to those regulations. And consult with
tribe so that consultation could be entered into the hearing record...
so if there is general public input and tribal input.. if there are
refinements the board wishes to make to the PC dev ? 2:31. Mark
Evans? - Is there to be a formal signed agreement with the tribe?
Morley - in 1989, the tribes within wa state met with gov office and
agencies and mapped out the process for govt to govt consultation,
tribes as independent nations and state of washington as a
subsidiary of the united states. Now we are talking at the county
level.. we have ? that process. It requires county to make an earnest
effort to communicate, look for opportunities to come to consensus,
but it does not require to reach agreement. It respects the fact that
parties may disagree. They retain legal rights. If tribe felt their
treaty rights were? , they could resort to legal action. PHil - looking
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at the govt to govt guidelines can be found by googling, it is the
method they will use. Tom - last letter from tribe seems to show a
great deal of frustration, the process is progressing, open and in a
constructive way... if you read the letter, there are issues in that
process, how are those being addressed? Sullivan - i'm scheduling
further meetings with the tribe and jeromy sullivan. I was the author
of many of those conditions of the dev regs? If you look at the
record, those conditions went beyond what the tribe was asking for
at that time. Some people look at tribal rights different today than
they did 10 years ago. Their concerns are our concerns as well. ...
2;36 once everything is right, it will come forward. He hopes it will
happen fairly soon. Cynthia - hope there is another meeting when
staff is ready, a joint meeting with PC would be appropriate. ONe of
many concerns of PC, is the regs - which are adopted first - just as
zoning regs adopted prior to building house... felt the regs that
2:37:53 PM continued
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Note: Clerk, Superior cover the MPR, and the agreement ? that. ANother piece is to think
of hte regs independent of the developer. WHat would be
appropriate on that land, regardless of who the developer is. We
kept that in laser sharp focus when we were developing the regs.
THe idea that the dev agreement could be more specific about what
THIS development could do. THe pC had a session last week august
2 where morley and charnas came and talked about the
development and what we would hear today, its still pretty vague.
Important to know the details. Morley - When we set this meeting in
the beginning of august, we thought it would be riper, cant control
all actions of all parties. Fully intent for second briefing when we
have all the documents, if it convenient with the PC to hold meeting
at the sane time. THe tribe may be frustrated because at the
technical level when we first met, there has been quite a bit of
time.. .. taken some time to address tribal concerns. Tom -
discussions with tribe continue, theyre active, while no agreement is
required, their ? are continued to be addressed 2:42. Morley -
balancing act with the rights of the tribe and the rights of the
developer under the law. Lorna - what are the developers rights?
Morley - cannot speak to that without? Lorna - the approval process
never really spelled out for us...what comes with the more specific
requirement and footprint? 2:44 we never saw what was
submitted... missed what she was talking about. patty - the
ordinance that approved the dev of land for the mpr, are you asking
how it began? Lorna - almost like a residential dev permit
approval...?Patty - happened as a supplement... lorna - we have an
eis that says...? check audio for more discussion. Sullivan - there is a
lot of history here. Its important to keep respect tribal rights,
applicant and neighbors rights too. We have a good record of doing
it. Trying to find that sweet spot where we can reach
consensus.THanked the PC for attending. Appreciates the work PC
has done. ...mark - talking about the tribe... giske - contention
between bocc and PC. they have spent more time on this.
...concerns are with the property. Confident we will end up with
something that is good for the county...may be up to 10 years.
Lorna - change conditions need revisiting... water quality in disco
bay... conditions have changed which require them to revisit. A lot
has changed in 10 years. ...sullivan - really think theres a positive
outcome we all working towards. ,,,3:18 most of the PC members
here, is that because of working schedules or conflicts? Patty - 2
said they couldn't attend. Giske - we have a quorum, on a work day.
Morley - looking for a similar timeframe if we reconvene. Audience
may want clarification about kettles... statesman group had
previously said they would save kettles and turn them over to the
tribe, but now they said they are reverting to previous plan...and
use as an artificial runoff... people are really interested in those
kettles. Morley - cant do that today, discussions with developer is
still ongoing. ...3:25 cynthia - large concern, deadline of june 30 of
2018 for the comp plan... schedule, both the DCD, and BOCC, is jam
packed. It is hard to imagine how to do something else on top of
that, it is a big concern. Lorna - after this briefing, the public
deserves and would appreciate some written communication update.
KLer - since this was a powerpoint, can be held upwhere... Patty -
they will upload the powerpoint slides.
3:28:40 PM Adjourned
Note: Clerk, Superior Commissioner Sullivan moved to adjourn. Dean second, unanimous.
3:28:55 PM Session Paused
3:32:56 PM Session Ended
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