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MINUTES
WEEK OF MARCH 7, 1994
Chairman Robert Hinton called the meeting to order in the presence of Commissioners
Glen Huntingford and Richard Wojt.
COMMISSIONERS' BRIEFING SESSION
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Commissioner Wojt moved to approve the
minutes of February 14, and 28, 1994 as presented. Commissioner Wojt seconded the motion
which carried by a unanimous vote.
Discussion of County Departments Purchasin2 Locallv: Commissioner Huntingford
explained that he went to a Chamber of Commerce meeting where there was discussion of how to
encourage County departments to purchase locally. He suggested that this be discussed with the
Elected Officials at the next Management Team meeting.
GMA Update: Public Works Director Gary Rowe reported that there is a meeting
tomorrow morning with the consultants for the capital facilities plan and a meeting on Tuesday at
7:00 p.m. between the Planning Commission and the Chairmen of the various community planning
committees. Commissioner Huntingford introduced Kent Anderson who has been hired as the
Current Planning Supervisor to work at the Permit Center.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD: The majority of the discussion centered around the
final draft of the Critical Areas Ordinance, the need for the County to hold another public hearing
on it before adoption, and the need for the public to be better informed about the impact of this
ordinance on land use.
APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA: Commissioner
Wojt moved to approve and adopt the consent agenda as presented. Commissioner Huntingford
seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote.
1. Sign Letter of Support for Expansion of Local Calling Area; State Utilities and Transportation
Commission
2. Approve and Sign Grant Application; 1994 Emergency Shelter Grants Program; To be
administered by the Clallam Jefferson Community Action Council; State Department of
Community Development, Housing Division
3. HEARING NOTICES re: Appeal of Final Mitigation Determination of Non-Significance;
Creekside Long Plat LP05-92 and Ironwood Long Plat LP06-92; Public Hearings set for March
21, 1994 at 2:00 p.m.
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THE CONSENT AGENDA ": Continued
4. RESOLUTION NO. 22A-94 re: Establishing an H. J. Carroll Park Advisory Committee
5. AGREEMENT No. LA-1416, Supplement #3 re: Chimacum Road Improvement Project
CR0953; Acquisition of Right-of-Way; State Department of Transportation
6. RESOLUTION NO. 23-94: Hearing Notice; Petition to Establish County Roads; Boardwalk
Place and St. James Place; Hearing Set for March 28, 1994 at 11:15 a.m.
7. Certification of Road Levy Expenditures; 1993 Budget Year; County Road Administration
Board
8. Accept Resignation; Gardiner Community Center Advisory Board; Barbara Harrison
9. Appointment to Gardiner Community Center Advisory Board; Unexpired Three Year Term
(Term expires 09/27/96); Joyce Minty
10. Appointment to Port Townsend Community Center Building Advisory Board; New Two Year
Term (Term expires 03/07/96) Irene Alexander
11. Appointments to the Larry Scott Memorial Park Citizen Advisory Committee: All Terms to
Expire at the End of the Project.
Person:
Kate Spear
Greg Bennett
Heidi Schmidt
Judy French-Scott
Gene Seton
Paul Boyer
Bill Perk a
Alma Taylor
Ben Andrews
Lowell Jons
Paul Harder
Kathy Verras
Kathy Campbell
Mercedes Young
Representing:
Jefferson County Parks Advisory Board
Jeff. Co. Transportation Planning Advisory Board
South Discovery Road Property Owner
North Discovery Road Property Owner
Glen Cove Property Owner
Business
Realtors
Citizen-at- Large
Citizen-at-L1rge
Bicyclist
Pedestrians
Citizen-at-Large and Physically Challenged
Equestrians
Ci tizen-at- LargeIYouth
BUSINESS FROM COUNTY DEPARTMENTS
PLANNING DEPARTMENT
Discussion of Final Draft Critical Areas O."dinance: Chairman Hinton asked if
either of the Board members wanted to make any recommendation on this ordinance after hearing
all of the comments during the public comment period regarding the need for another public
hearing before adoption.
Mark Huth, Prosecuting Attorney, reported that the changes directed by the Board have been made
to the document and now the Board needs to give direction on how they wish to proceed.
Commissioner Wojt asked about the comments made during the morning public comment period?
Mark Huth reported that the public hearing has been held on this document and the comment
period is closed, so any comments made this morning can not be used as a basis for any decision
on this document.
Chairman Hinton stated that he has concerns regarding the change in the ordinance which added
building permits as a triggering permit and he feels that another public hearing should be
scheduled for this final draft. Commissioner Huntingford stated that the changes to the draft were
made as a result of public testimony.
Commissioner Huntingford moved to set one more public hearing on this final draft ordinance. He
added that he would like people to make comments that are to the point about specific items in
this ordinance. Prosecuting Attorney Mark Huth reported that the ordinance will have to be
published again for this hearing. Commissioner Wojt seconded the motion.
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Commissioner Huntingford suggested that the ordinance be adopted which would allow a review
of how these things work and then the changes needed could be made during the update of the
Comprehensive Plan.
Chairman Hinton called for a vote on the motion. Chairman Hinton and Commissioner Hun-
tingford voted for the motion. Commissioner Wojt voted against the motion. The motion carried.
Review of Development Code Draft Environmental Impact Statement: Mark Huth
stated that there is concern that the Planning Commission is reviewing the draft EIS without
direction from the Board. James Holland has drafted a letter for the Board to send to the Plann-
ing Commission thanking them for their work and notifying them that they are not required to
review this document.
Dick Broders, Planning Commission member, reported that the Planning Commission was told that
they should review the EIS. They did look at it at their last meeting, and determined that they
feel it is inadequate. He explained that they will not be doing any further review of it. The
Board concurred that the draft letter not be sent to the Planning Commission.
Appeal Request; Petition for Redesi2nation of Property ZCP7-93; Thomas Hansen:
Chairman Hinton asked Mark Huth why the Planning Department would recommend that this
appeal not be scheduled. The Prosecuting Attorney feels that this request for an appeal hearing
should be granted.
Commissioner Wojt moved to set a public hearing on this appeal for Tuesday March 22, 1994 at
9:00 a.m. Commissioner Huntingford seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote.
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
CONTRACT re: Desi2n and Build Solid Waste Transfer Station; R02nlins Inc.
and K.P.G.. Inc.: Public Works Director Gary Rowe reported that the final cost of this contract
is $555,000.00. The estimated time schedule is for a ground breaking in May with the building
to be finished about September.
Commissioner Huntingford moved to approve the contract with Rognlins, Inc. and K.P.G., Inc. as
submitted. Commissioner W ojt seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote.
Lease A2reement. Amendment; Additional space at the Federal Buildin2 (post
Office) for Public Works Department; U.S. Postal Service: Gary Rowe reported that additional
space has become available at the Post Office building and since more employees have been
added to the staff housed there, they are asking that the lease amendment be approved.
Commissioner Huntingford moved to approve the Lease Agreement amendment with the U.S.
Postal Service for additional space in the Federal building. Commissioner Wojt seconded the
motion which carried by a unanimous vote.
From 11:45 a.m. to Noon the Board met in Executive Session with Prosecuting
Attorney Mark Huth regarding potential litigation.
Letter to City of Port Townsend re: Concerns About the Interim Urban Growth
Areas Ordinance: Commissioner Wojt moved to have a letter drafted to the City asking them to
outline, in writing, their concerns with the IUGA Ordinance and invite them to meet with County
staff and/or Commissioners to discuss these concerns. Commissioner Huntingford seconded the
motion which carried by a unanimous vote.
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HEARING re: Intention to Renew Lease of County Property; Property located
near Jefferson County Transfer Station; For the Purposes of a Firin2 Ran2e Facility:
Chairman Hinton opened the public hearing for comments regarding the County's intention to
renew the lease of County property located near the Jefferson County Transfer Station for use as a
firing range.
Mike Moug, President of the Sportsmen's Club, stated that the Sportsmen's Club has been in
existence since 1964. The Club provides a safe shooting environment for the citizens of the
County. Training programs are provided for young people, such as Hunter Safety, education and
firearms safety program. The Club provides a service to the citizens of the County.
Neil Bergstrom, 250 Jansen Road, Nordland, said that he has been a member of the Sportsmen's
Club for several years. He reported that this excellent facility is well maintained and well run.
He urged the Board to extend the lease for the Sportsmen's Club.
Pamela Cole, Secretary/Treasurer of the Sportsmen's Club, stated that she feels that if this lease is
not renewed, there won't be any control of where people practice firing their guns. The gun
safety programs they offer are good programs.
James Davis, 1431 Sherman, stated that he has been a member of the club since 1967. Over the
years this club has been built up to be an on-going organization. If there isn't a firing range
available, gravel pits and private property will be used more and more for target practice. Over
the years many residents have contributed money and time to the club and everything on the site
has been done by volunteers.
Julie Dalzell, said that she has been a member of the Sportsmen's Club for about three years.
She uses the archery range. Archery is a family activity and it attracts people from out of town
who then spend money here.
John McKeeshan, Nordland, stated that he, his wife and son, utilize the range. It is a good
facility and they would like to see it maintained.
Doug Kurata, 71 Woodman Road, said that he has been a member of the club for 10 plus years
and supports what the other members have said. He added that this is a volunteer organization
that does a lot of a work to maintain this facility. There are a lot of members of the Club. It is
a safe shooting area that is policed by the members of the club. He urged the Board to continue
the lease.
Dick Hill, 1409 Monroe, stated that he appreciates this facility because he has two young boys
that he has been able to send to the firearms instruction programs put on by the Club.
Kimberlv Torres, 321 Dennis Boulevard, said that she and her husband joined the Club last year.
They feel the gun club is a safe, clean environment for this activity. There is a great deal of
mutual respect for members when they are there. They are glad this facility is here and they
hope it stays.
Dean Crawford, 91 Walker Way, stated that there was recently an incident of people shooting
guns in an unauthorized area and they hit a fire station located on Thorndyke Road. That kind of
activity will continue if there is no firing range for people to use. Good gun safety is important.
He added that whenever he has been to the firing range the gate has been locked behind the
members because they have good safety habits. There is no other place to go if this lease isn't
renewed.
Bill Grant 201 Brighton, Hadlock, stated that he uses the range for archery. The next closest
range is in Port Angeles. The alternative to shooting at the range is putting up bales in back
yards, which can be hazardous. He strongly urged that the range be allowed to continue.
Richard Hill stated that he grew up in the Club and it is a safe place to go. He uses the range
for archery now. He feels it is a safe atmosphere.
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Gene Woods, 2935 Gise Street, this is an excellent place for the kids to go out and learn to shot
in a controlled environment. It is a lot better than learning by shooting up insulators and cattle.
It would be inviting kids to go shoot wherever they get the urge to, if this lease isn't renewed.
Howard Armstrong, 1529 Sherman, stated that the Club has tried to be a good neighbor to the
people out there. If they have notified the club of an activity the club has rescheduled shoots and
practice times to accommodate those activities. There have been some problems on the range out
there, but the Club has tried to handle them and maintain a safety facility for everyone.
Hearing no further public testimony, the Chairman closed the hearing.
CommissionerWojt asked what brought this matter to the attention of the Board? Mark Huth
explained that the previous lease expired and in order to renew it, a public hearing is required.
Commissioner Wojt moved that a lease for the maximum term allowed be negotiated with the
Sportsmen's Club to include a clause that the lease be opened every five years for fee negotia-
tions. Commissioner Huntingford seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. The
Prosecuting Attorney will negotiate with the Sportsmen's Club.
Discussion re: Policy on Approval of Septic Tank Permits in the Flood Plain:
Environmental Health Director Larry Fay reported that septic systems in Jefferson County are
regulated under County Ordinance No. 2-77 (On-site Sewage Systems) and, by reference, Chapter
246.272 of the Washington Administrative Code (the design standards for septic systems.) The
County ordinance is primarily administrative. The regulations do not specifically address the
placement of septic systems in flood control areas, but it does require (under WAC 246.272.90)
that a septic system that is going to serve a structure in a flood control zone area must have a
flood control zone permit before the on-site sewage permit can be issued. The Jefferson County
Ordinance requires issuance of a flood plain certificate if the site is within the 100 year flood
plain. The Flood Plain certificate spells out certain mitigative conditions so that the flow of flood
waters are not interfered with and damage to structures built within the flood plain are minimized.
Section 5.20 (3) part b (sewage disposal systems) says "On-site waste disposal systems shall be
located to avoid impairment to them and contamination from them during flooding." The nature
of septic tanks and drain field systems are such that when they are inundated with water they don't
function. When they are inundated there is significant probability of contamination. He stated
that he doesn't know how any system could be conditioned to meet that standard. Mter
reviewing all of this information, the Health Board concurred that a policy statement be drafted to
address these concerns. He added that the policy statement, when drafted, would be to define the
procedures a property owner could take if they disagree with the maps which identify flood plains.
Chairman Hinton asked if the policy has been drafted yet? Larry Fay reported that it has not
been drafted yet. Chairman Hinton asked the status of permitting septic systems in the flood
plain? Larry Fay answered that if an application for a septic system in a mapped flood plain was
submitted right now it would have to go through the flood plain certificate procedure, and it
would be reviewed under the standards in the County's ordinance.
Prosecuting Attorney Mark Huth reported that RCW 86.16.041 subsection 2a says that the State
Department of Ecology could disapprove the County's Ordinance if it didn't restrict land use
within designated flood ways, including the prohibition of construction or reconstruction of
residential structures. The local jurisdiction submits its Flood Plain Ordinance to the State
Department of Ecology for approval. In order to amend the ordinance, the amended ordinance
would have to be reviewed and approved by the DOE.
Chairman Hinton asked how other counties handle this? Larry Fay reported that he hasn't
canvassed many other Counties, but in the few he has talked with there is diversity. Most of the
restrictions imposed on on-site septic systems have been tied to the floodway as opposed to the
100 year flood plain. Their standards aren't as restrictive in the flood plain as they are in the
floodway. He feels that a realistic approach to regulating septic systems in flood zones, for the
protection of the public health and safety, is to look at the impacts from the flooding. In areas
that are considered "frequently flooded" it would make sense to be fairly restrictive in what would
be allowed. Areas that are flooded less frequently, may not have that major an impact from an
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on-site septic system. Any change in approach, such as this, would require an amendment to the
Flood Management Ordinance.
Chairman Hinton asked if a septic system can be designed and engineered to be used in the flood
plain? Larry Fay answered that in order for a septic system to work the soil is used as part of
the treatment process. If order to get effective treatment, unsaturated soils are needed. During a
period of flooding or a high water table associated with flooding, the level of treatment is not
maintained. A watertight septic tank could be designed to prevent infiltration or leakage during a
flood. Conceivably manholes and risers could be built over the access compartments of a septic
tank to bring them above flood stage. The discussion continued regarding the difference between
the floodway and the flood plain.
Dave Phinizy stated that the Federal Insurance Rate Maps (FIRM) were the beginning of this
process which is an attempt to limit the federal government insurance program's exposure from
continuous losses over and over again in the same place. The program requires that the bottom
floor of a home be one foot above the level of the 100 year flood plain.
Chairman Hinton asked if anyone has any concerns about this policy?
Herb Beck reported that his property is in the flood plain. Floods have a very short life. The
flood comes, flashes by and recedes. He stated that he would be concerned about the length of
time that the septic system was flooded.
David Newman asked if the Health Department is not issuing any septic permits in flood plain
areas? Larry Fay reported that the problem is that the County Ordinance requires that a septic
tank permit in a flood area requires the issuance of a Flood Area Certificate. The Flood Area
Certificate references a section which requires that certain conditions be met which he feels cannot
be met by an on-site sewage system. Mr. Newman asked if there has ever been any water wells
contaminated in flood areas? Larry Fay reported that he is not aware of any water testing done
during a flood.
Mari Phillips asked how long the County ordinance and State regulations have been in place?
The County ordinance has been in place since 1989 and the State regulations since 1987. She
then asked what she would have to comply with if she applied for a septic system permit in a
flood plain? Mark Huth reported that if the property was in a flood hazard area (County
ordinance identifies that as the flood plain), she would have to comply with the Flood Plain
Management Ordinance as well as the State WAC. This is the problem right now, because the
way the Flood Plain Management Ordinance is written, a septic system cannot be installed that
would meet the requirements of the County's ordinance.
Carol Goodwin, Brinnon, said that it is clear that the Flood Plain Ordinance would stop most
people in Brinnon from getting a building permit. She asked what has to be changed to make a
workable situation? Mark Huth reported that the ordinance would have to be rewritten and
adopted by the Board of Commissioners and then by the State Department of Ecology.
The discussion continued regarding how this problem was discovered, what the County is trying to
do to assure the protection of the public health and still allow people to build on their property,
and what can be done to change the regulations.
Chairman Hinton asked if it would be a "taking" if a parcel of property is not granted approval
for a septic system, when other parcels around it were approved, because of this change in policy
by the County? Mark Huth reported that this would not be a "taking," legally because unless a
completed application has been submitted, it is not vested. The question that remains to be
answered is what exactly is required to fulfill the federal regulations. That may not mean that all
septic systems would be denied in the 100 year flood plain.
Dave Phinizy pointed out that the bigger issue for the County, is the protection of the charter
from FEMA which allows the purchase of FEMA Flood Insurance by County residents. If that
charter is lost, and there is some type of catastrophic event, the federal government would not be
obliged to provide emergency federal aid. The County has an obligation to meet the minimum
standards set forth by the federal government.
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Jack Westerman, Assessor, stated that whatever is done, when the maps are corrected, a system
needs to be set up to flag the affected parcels in an area being regulated so that County
Departments know that the parcel is affected.
Jim Olsen stated that Section 5.4 (Alternatives) in the current Flood Plain Ordinance allows that
protective measures in any structure in a flood hazard zone that vary from those described, must
be certified for adequacy by a registered professional engineer or architect. The ordinance should
be reviewed and altered to allow the Health Department to approve alternatives if they are
certified by a competent professional.
Byron Swigart stated that his comments are based on Page 10 of the County's ordinance. The
first item on page 10 infers that there are alternative methods of flood proofing. Second, the
utilities sections talks about new and replacement utilities. This could impact many people with
existing systems, if the criteria is applied the same as for a new installation. There are several
places on this page which talk about minimize or eliminate. Which is it? There is a lot of
difference between minimize and eliminate. In one place it refers to sewage systems and another
place it refers disposal systems. Is there a difference? If this ordinance was adopted 10 years
ago and never enforced, he questioned if it is legally enforceable now. He recommended that the
ordinance be reviewed and rewritten.
David Phinizy added that the FIRM maps are not accurate in many cases because they were
presented as a baseline to work from. To allow for the inaccuracy in the maps, the federal
government allows the applicant to supply the data to prove whether his property is or isn't in the
flood plain through a process call a Letter of Map Amendment (LOMA.)
Larry Fay suggested that because Section 5.4 of the Flood Plain Ordinance states that the Board
of Commissioners is the appeal body for questions, that appeals be made on a case by case basis
until the ordinance can be amended to address these issues better. The Board members concurred
that the appeal procedure be used on a case by case basis as suggested. Larry Fay will work
with the on-site septic system designers and engineers and interested residents to look at the issues
and how to address them in an updated ordinance. The state and federal guidelines will also be
reviewed for ways to update the County's ordinance.
Dave Phinizy reported that the FEMA office in Bellevue has a group of advisors that are willing
come out and help the County update the ordinance to meet the regulations.
The meeting was recessed at the end of the business day and reconvened on Tuesday
morning with all three Commissioners present to meet with consultants for presentations on capital
facilities plans. They then met in Executive Session with Prosecuting Attorney Mark Huth
regarding potential litigation. In the afternoon the Board attended a strategy meeting with
Community Services, Public Works, and Health Departments to review the County's Flood Plain
Ordinance.
MEETING ADJOURNED
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