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HomeMy WebLinkAboutM061289 11 . . , ~~a ~ \b____.._8 q , M I NUT E S WEEK OF 3UNE l2, 1989 The meeting was called to order by Chairman George C. Brown in the presence of Commissioner B. G. Brown and Commissioner Larry W. Dennison. BUSINESS FROM OOUNTY DEPARTMENTS PUBLIC WORKS Bid OoeninG re: For StripinG Various Countv Roads and Other Work as Described in Contract Documents: Public Works Director, Gary Rowe, opened and read the bids received for striping various County Roads as follows: BIDDERS BID TOTALS Apply-A-Line, Inc. Pacific Select Contractors, Seattle $ 77,533.90 100,916.53 Commissioner B. G. Brown moved to have the Public Works Department check the bids for accuracy and make a recommendation for bid award that is to the best advantage of the County. Commissioner Dennison seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. AGREEMENT re: PreliminarvEnGineerinG for CRe579. CReell. CReel2. CRe8l3: parametrix ConsultinG EnGineers: This contract is for preliminary engineering on four County road projects, Gary Rowe reported. Two sections of Beaver Valley Road and two sections of Oak Bay Road. Gary Rowe then reviewed the estimated cost for each project covered by this contract. Each project is separated into three separate tasks. Commissioner B. G. Brown moved to approve the agreement with ParametrixConsulting Engineers as presented and to have the Chairman sign the agreement. Commissioner Dennison seconded the motion. The motion carried by a unanimous vote. CONTRACT re: Point Whitnev Road/Bee Mill Road CRe528: Seton Con- struction: This contract was awarded previously, Gary Rowe reported. Commissioner B. G. Brown moved to approve the contract with Seton Construction for construction of the Point Whitney/Bee Mill Road. Commis- sioner Dennison seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. \It'j' 'V \,\1_ 15 l~,\)- 00 2900 . . Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of ,June 12, 1989 Page: 2 CONTRACT re: Purchase of Horizontal Baler Packaae: Weverhaeuser: Commissioner B. G. Brown moved to approve the contract with Weyerhaeuser for the purchase of a horizontal baler per bid awarded previously. Commissioner Dennison seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. Reauest the Name of Port Hadlock be Used in Future Sians. MaDS and Other Official Documents: TrlArea Business Club of East Jefferson County: Gary Rowe read the letter from the President of the Tri Area Business Club of East ,Jefferson County requesting that the name of Port Hadlock be restored to Hadlock for use in signs, official documents and maps. Gary Rowe reported that the Board has the authority to change County geographic names by adopting a resolution to that effect. Meetings have been held with business representatives from the Hadlock, Tri Area, and Port Ludlow communities, Gary Rowe further reported, and the Board will have to make some decisions regarding sign designations off of State Highway 104. The original plat for Hadlock says "Port Hadlock". Commis- sioner B. G. Brown stated that he feels that public input is needed on this issue before any action is taken. There are many people that live in Hadlock that are not in business and this would mean that their addresses would have to be changed. The Board concurred that a public meeting be held on this request. Gary Rowe will make the arrangement for a public meeting. Memorandum re: Petition for County Maintenance of South SandY Shore ~: A petition was received from property owners along a portion of the south Sandy Shore Road located from State Highway 104 to the Dabob Coyle Road, asking that the County do more maintenance on the road, Gary Rowe reported. The records were researched and it was found that this section of road was never established as a County road. The adjacent property owners will have to maintain this road. The Board directed the Public Works Department to advise the petitioners of this information. FACILITIES MANAGEMDT Parks Board Recommendation: Gibbs Lake and Bruce Marsten re: Gibbs Lake Issue: Bruce Marsten reported that last week a television news story was done with Scott Miller of King 5 News. It was stated in that report that Mr. Manke is looking at a possible land trade and if that doesn't happen the timber would be harvested from the property and the land subdivided and sold. This conversion was not stated in the Forest Practices application to the State Department of Natural Resources. Mr. Marsten reported further that he has not had any success getting any information about the sale from the Boy Scouts in Seattle or Texas. Discussion ensued regarding the. actions of the Boy Scouts with regard the Gibbs Lake land and the land they own in the City of Port Townsend. Gary Rowe reported that he has contacted the State Department of Natural Resources and Manke about the possibility of a land trade, but nothing has happened yet. Carter Breskin read a letter from the Parks Advisory Board which recommends that the County purchase the Gibbs Lake property for a park. Rick Tollefson, Chairman of the Parks Advisory Board was present to answer any questions from the Board. The Parks Board would I ike to discuss the opt ions for the purchase of this land, Rick Tollefson stated. The Board will meet with the Parks Advisory Board at a later date regarding this issue. Environmental Review: Port Townsend Communitv Center Project: Carter Breskin reported that the State Department of Community Development changed the category of this project and all that is necessary is approval of a categorical exemption. The reason that the project is exempt is "that the facility or improvement replaces or upgrades existing facilities or improvements with only minimal change in use, size, capacity or location, . VOL 15 fAG~ 00 2901 Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of June 12, 1989 Page: 3 Carter Breskin added." Commissioner B. G. Brown moved to find that the Port Townsend Community Center project is categorically exempted from the National Environmental Policy Act. Commissioner Dennison seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. Discussion of Parkina at Brinnon Senior.. Center: There are 48 parking spaces required for this building, Carter Breskin reported, but meeting this requirement is impossible with the motel sign that is currently in the middle of the parking lot. A parking plan can be developed with the sign, but this will not be the most efficient use of the space. Commissioner B. G. Brown stated that the removal of the sign would have to be discussed with the Brinnon Seniors of Brinnon who operate the Senior Center. ADDroval of Bill for EmerG'encv Repair of South Auartment at Brinnon Senior Center: The total bill was for repairing the south apartment of the Brinnon Senior Center building was $9,110.13, Carter Breskin reported. Commissioner Dennison moved to approve the bill for the remodel of the Br innon Senior Center apartment as presented. Commiss ioner B. G. Brown seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous. vote. PLANNDfG AND BU'ILDING Request for BuildinG' Setback Variance: 80 Pattison Street. Hadlock: William J. Kremnetz (See also Minutes of Mav 22. 1989): Mr. William Kremnetz was present when Planning and Building Department Director, David Goldsmith, reported that the Board tabled action on this request on May 22, 1989 so that more information could be provided regarding the need for this setback variance. The request is to locate a 12 x 16 foot shed within 4 1/2 feet of the edge of the Pattison Street right-of-way. A fifteen and one half foot variance is being requested. Mr. Kremnetz does not know exactly where his septic systemdrainfield is located on his property. William Kremnetz stated that he would like to have this shed at the end of his house so that he can put his wood in it and also so that it would connect with his porch. Mrs. King, a neighboring resident, noted that she and her neighbor feel that Mr. Kremnetz should not mind removing a couple of trees to place this shed on the other side of the house. She suggested that he could turn the shed 90 degrees in the proposed location. which would not require as much of a setback variance. Discussion ensued regarding the placement of the shed in another location on the property. Mr. Kremnetz stated that as far as he could tell there is no record of where the drainfield is located on this property. David Goldsmith stated that the Health Department permit states that the septic tank is located beside the house. . The criteria for granting variances were then discussed. The hardship criteria for granting a variance states that the hardship must be created by the constraints of the property , not by something that Mr. Kremnetz has done, David Goldsmith reported. Commissioner Dennison stated that he doesn't see that there is anything on the property that limits the placement of the shed on this property to the location for which Mr. Kremnetz is seeking the variance. There are still alternatives available. Commissioner B. G. Brown stated that he feels this request does not meet the variance criteria. Commissioner Dennison moved to deny the variance based on the fact that it doesn't meet the hardship criteria. Commissioner B. G. Brown seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. Statement of Concurrence/Nonconcurrence for the OUilcene/Dabob Action Plan: Pat Rubida was present when David Goldsmith explained that all agencies who have any commitment to carry out an action requirement of the Watershed Action Plan have received this statement of concurrence or nonconcurrence with the Quilcene/Dabob Action Plan. ~ Val 15 rA['~ CO 2902 . ' . . Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of ,June 12, 1989 Page: 4 Pat Rubida explained that the action requirements are directly out of the Action Plan approved by the Board. He then reviewed each action requirement for the Board. Action Item #10: The County shall give a tax incentive to landowners that voluntarily maintain a primary stream side buffer. The Conservation District shall assist with the Development of farm plans for buffer maintenance. Time line: December 1989. Action Item #11: The County shall amend Open Space Tax Program to include site specific measure for the control of erosion and the protection of the riparian zones and water quality. Pat Rubida explained that to receive an Open Space Timber designation the applicant will have to include a riparian zone management plan as well as a timber management plan. This is only for timber land less than 20 acres in size, David Goldsmith explained. Time line December 1989. Action Item #17: A SEPA review of forest land conversions for tracts five acres or larger shall be required by the County. This is currently set up, David Goldsmith reported, to allow the County to review the impact of conversion of forest lands to other uses. Time line: Ongoing Action Item #29: The Watershed Management Committee shall designate the Quilcene/Dabob watershed as environmentally impor- tant. This would mean, David Goldsmith, explained that projects in the area would have to meet the water quality objectives of the plan. Time line ,June 1989 Action Item #30: Water Quality Guidelines as set forth by the Hood Canal Coordinating Council be adopted that pertain to agricultural waste management. These guidelines would be incorporated into the SEPA rules, David Goldsmi th added. The Board asked that a workshop on these guidelines be arranged. Time line March 1990. Commissioner Dennison moved to table action on this document until ,June 19, 1989. Commissioner B. G. Brown seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. Shoreline Substantial Development Permit #87-000l: Outstation and Related UDland Facilities: Ludlow Bav: Seattle Yacht Club: Twelve interested area residents were present when Assistant Planner, 3im Pearson, reviewed the staff findings on this project. The project is to develop an outstation and related shoreside facilities on the southern shore of Ludlow I Bay adjoining South Bay Lane. A clubhouse and six parking stalls and an qn-site sewage disposal system would be constructed on the upland portion ofjthe site with an upland deck and pier, a 40 foot ramp and a fingered floating dock fixed to pilings. The dock is intended to serve 20 boats. This pro~osal is being reviewed under the previous addition of the Shoreline Management Master Program. I i The Board issued a Determination of Significance in February! of 1987. An Environmental Impact Statement was scoped and a draft state~ent issued in August 1988. A final EIS was issued in February 1989. The EIS analyzed the I impacts of four alternative actions: 1) No action, 2) small~r facility at the proposed site, 3) leased moorage at the existing AdmlraltyjResort Marina and 4) Development of a permanent outstation at the AdmiraltyiResort Marina or on an adjacent site. The EIS points out that environmen~al impacts to water quality are not substantially different for any of the!alternatives, ,Jim Pearson reported. ' The suggested conditions and Shoreline Commission recommend~tion for the project were then reviewed by .Jim Pearson. The Shoreline Commission recommends that the project be denied. The Chairman then as~ed for public comment on this proposal. ! I i . VOL 15 rAC~ GO 2903 Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of .June 12, 1989 Page: 5 Peter Buck, Attorney for the Applicant: Peter Buck asked the Board to look at the proposal as it came before them and was modified. There was an EIS done which resulted in information and identified issues. TheMeydenbauer Bay Yacht Club, which is an unregulated facility, should not be compared to this proposal which has gone through a rigorous process to address the impacts that were identified. The Seattle Yacht Club has made an attempt to deal with the water quality issue and have agreed to put in a pu.mpout facility. The Club has gone further in trying to be a good neighbor to make the facility available to the Meydenbauer Yacht Club members and the public. We ask that you look at a broader interest. Herb Carpenter, Desianer of the Project: I looKed at other Seattle Yacht Club outstations and found that they are good neighbors. The project brought before you satisfies the Shoreline program. We have tried to deal with the neighborhood group and the Protect Ludlow Bay Committee. Commissioner Dennison asked about the conclusion that the alternatives were not feasible. Mr. Carpenter stated that the alternatives regarding the Admiralty Marina would be difficult to do because they do not want to enter into long term agreements at their marina. The purpose in having those slips is for the Port Ludlow landowners. There is one piece of undeveloped property, which would be very hard to develop this project on. This is a reasonable alternative and physically the site is as good as you're going to get. C. Montaomerv ,Johnson, Protect Ludlow Bav Committee: Mr. .Johnson read testimony into the record and submitted a written copy to the Board with an additional six page letter. Bob Mitchell: Mr. Mitchell stated that he lives in the South Bay area and is Chairman of the South Bay Community Council. He presented petitions with signatures of over 200 residents, property owners and taxpayers, which state "We the residents and property owners of the Port Ludlow community, hereby peti tion our Board of County Commissioners to deny Seattle yacht Club I s Application to site a marina/outstation on the tip of Ludlow Point. Such a facili ty is incompatible with the residential neighborhood where it is proposed and, is contrary to water quality efforts in the Bay." Allen Stookey: Mr. Mitchell said it all. Leonard Pedersen: Mr. Pedersen stated that he lives approximately 150 feet east in the second house away from the proposed development. The EIS is full of flaws. With 1,600 boats in the Seattle Yacht Club, this dock was designed for twenty, 40 foot boats. These are good sized boats. This leaves approximately 1,580 boats waiting offshore for an open slot at the dock. Robert Beckman: Robert Beckman stated that he is the adjacent property owner to the east of the proposed site. I bought the property knowing that we would have this hearing to determine if this facility would be there. He has had meetings with the Seattle Yacht Club representatives between hearings, to discuss proposed changes to the dock. I went to Gig Harbor, the facility there is no larger than any residential dock in the Gig Harbor area. There is no upland facility at Gig Harbor. The EIS procedure, the proponents and staff are working together to make this project work. Mr. Beckman then read his testimony to the Shoreline Commission as well as "a letter to the Board. Tom Hanson: Resident of Bellevue representing Ron and Rose Towery the new owners of the property immediately to the west of the Meydenbauer Yacht Club. Mr. Hanson .presented a 14 minute video tape of the activity at the Meyden- bauer Yacht Club over the Memorial Day weekend. He urged the Board to accept the recommendation of Shoreline Commission and deny this project. Dr. Robert Simpson, Chairman of the Port Ludlow Committee of the Seattle Yacht Club: Dr. Simpson stated that as far as the pollution problems caused by the boats in the Bay, all of the members have children and grandchildren who swim off the docks. As far as leasing (moorage) space at Port Ludlow (Marina), they have been invited to leave the Port Ludlow property as soon as possible. As far as the other property for this project, it would neces- : VOL 15 rAGE 00 2904 Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of 3une 12, 1989 Page: 6 si tate rafting. neighbors. Never at any of their outstations have they been bad Commissioner Dennison asked about the sections of the Shoreline Plan with which the Shoreline Commission found this project was incompatible? .Jim Pearson advised that the sections were cited by Shoreline Commission member Phil Andrus (see findings) before the additional finding was made. ,Jim Pearson noted the following sections incompatible with this project: Section 1.20 - Purposes; 4.101 Aquatic Designation; 4.202 Secondary Uses; 4.30 Shoreline of State-Wide Significance; and 5.110 Marinas. Commissioner B. G. Brown moved that based on the findings of fact and the recommendation of the Shoreline Commission that the Shoreline Permit for the Seattle Yacht Club be denied. Commissioner Dennison seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. * * * ReQUest for FundinG: ..Jefferson/Clallam Counties BiG Brother/BiG Sister PrOGram: The Board discussed this request for funding to initiate a chapter of the Big Brother/Big Sister organization for Clallam and .Jefferson Counties. A contract for services would have to be developed for this type of funding. After discussion of the reT~est, the Board concurred that a letter be sent advising that this request will be considered in the 1990 budget. Approval of BillinG from Emolovee Relations Services: Commissioner B. G. Brown moved to approve the payment to Employee Relations Services for the monthly bill submitted. Commissioner Dennison seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. OUt of State Travel Request: Cpmmissioner B. G. Brown moved to approve the out of state travel request submitted by the Sheriff's Department for extradition of a prisoner. Commissioner Dennison seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. CONTRACT #2200-73555 re: Advance Loan Agreement for FundinG of Mental Health. Alcoholism. DruG Abuse. Developmental Disabilities and AginG PrOGrams: Washinaton State Department of Social and Real th Services: Commissioner Dennison moved to approve the advance loan agreement for funding from the State Department of Social and Health Services for the Human Services Department programs. Commissioner B. G. Brown seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. The meeting recessed at 5:20 p.m. and reconvened at the Brinnon Senior Center at 7:30 p.m. with all Board members present for the following public hearing. BEARING re: Proposed Development Code Ordinance: Brinnon Senior Center: Thirty-nine interested County residents were present when Chairman George Brown called the meeting to order. David Goldsmith reviewed the process that the proposed development code has undergone to this point. The Chairman then opened the hearing for public testimony. Dan Titterness: Dan Titterness stated that he is a member of the Planning Commission, but explained that he was not involved in the drafting of this document. I have read this document. This document has flexibility and he feels it is needed. After hearing the comments at the meeting Quilcene he still feels that we need this document. Development needs to be directed, so that we end up with something attractive in this County. I took a few minutes to talk with David Goldsmith regarding what would happen if a major ~ VOL 15 rAGE 002905 Com issioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of June 12, 1989 Page: 7 mon.y mogul came to ,Jefferson County and wanted to start building, and he did 't necessarily want to build the way our County development plan is laid out. David Goldsmith felt that we would have a 50/50 chance of having it done the way it should be done or however the money mogul wanted to building it. If we adopted this ordinance, David Goldsmith feels that the chances would be 95% or better of being able to have things go in an organized, coo dinated manner. Ric rd "Luck II Thornton: Richard Thornton stated that he doesn't know where the last fellow came from, but I want to know where he lives. (Mr. Titter- ness stated he lives in Port Townsend, within walking distance of the Cou thouse). I want to show that it takes about six weeks to get something don down here and it takes you guys nothing because you don't even have to liv to this law. It's so crazy that people don't know what they are doing. This is dirty rotten, no good job. If we allow this, I think we're crazy. ,Johnston: stan ,Johnston stated that he has lived in the area for a long and works in real estate. This puts a burden on people that you don't eve understand. The cost of permit process is going up and up. The plan tal s about strip development. Businesses can't even develop here. This ordinance allows them to enforce the re~~lationsof the Comprehensive Plan wit fines if necessary, whatever they need to do. This is giving your rig ts away. There is too much regulation already. There should be perfor- mance standards to comply with, and once you comply with them and if it makes sense, put it through. There has to be guidelines in both ways. It is too restrictive. It gives your rights away to the government. We need to talk abo t our community plan first. They already have us in our permit process in being able to build or not build. I'm opposed to this ordinance. Sam I'm that they're trying to take your rights away. this ordinance. Bill Duesin: Bill Duessing stated that he works at ,Johnston Realty in Br i non and has lived here for 30 years. He is against the ordinance. You' e got to live here to know what IS going on here. The plan is too restrictive and we're losing our rights. The Planning Department should be out there trying to help us not hang us. People pay a lot of taxes to sup ort your department. Barb ra Fisk: Barbara Fisk stated that she hasn't had a chance to read the new di tion of the plan. We were told once that there's a lot of good in the plan and there bad with it, and we have to accept the bad. I disagree, we don't have to accept bad laws and bad rules and regulations. If there is good, let keep the good, but let's take out what is undesirable here. I've bee involved in the County process for 10 years and I've gone to public meetings where people have been put down and told to shut up, etc. This plan will, I feel, put a huge club in the hands of the County Commissioners and Davi Goldsmith because I've watched them in action. I'm so opposed to the Comprehensive Plan because I've taken part in public hearings and watched the way the public's been treated. I've watched the Commissioners sit up there and you know you're not being listened to. We neve hear about what's going on in this County because the newspaper won't print it. We write letters and they're ignored. 's a new term everyone should be familiar with - Executive Decision. executive decision is made there is no more appeal. The County and the are using water quality to take away your rights on your private lands. ve enough laws on the books now. We need the people that are making and menting the laws to uphold them themselves, and not look for every through things that make them happy. Our County better start listening to the people in this County. They of being treated like the only intelligent life is in Port M. . Anderson: M. L. (Morey) Anderson stated that he is a landowner in Brin on and Quilcene and he has spent the last couple of days reading this (the proposed development code). He wondered how much this (code) cost to the County in manpower and time and planning people hired to put all this I VOl 15 ~AG~ 00 2906 .' ,0 Co issioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of ,June 12, 1989 Page: 8 I found that if I had a complaint I'd talk with the Commissioners and ~sually they could straighten it out. The only time I've had to go to ommissioners, was since there was a planning department. I ha e problems seeing a need for all of this. I don't have to talk too long abo t how I oppose this, because others already have talked about it. I don't see where we need this at all. Mr. Worth stated that he lives in Quilcene and does handYman work around town. This comprehensive plan opposes the free enterprise system and I think we should vote on the system, countywide. Wa H sheesh Ulsumu Etmunu Pete Norman: I just recently purchased property north of Quilcene. This proposed ordinance will take my property away. I this outfit because I just recently moved up from Oregon. The people will end up like the people in Antelope if they accept this proposal. Ed Boling stated that he has lived here on and off since he was bor. The bottom line in this whole thing is violations. On page 9.1 which says "any person, firm, company or cprporation that violates the provisions of t is ordinance and its' amendments or permits such violations or otherwise fail to comply with the procedures~ requirements or conditions established her .in, is subject to corrective actions. In addition any building, sign, use, or structure hereafter constructed, altered, enlarged; converted, moved or hanged. " This means you can't change anything in your whole place without being in violation of the Planning Department. Does that mean the color or your house, how about your yard work? Also the violations remedies part is not here, and it wasn't deleted or anything. Is there a page that has 't been put in here yet, like a $1,000 a day fine? Bill Duesin: Bill Duesing stated that he had a sale of a house down here and a man added nine feet on to his house and they said that if he was going to dd this on the house it would have to have it "perked" again. We were' sup osed to meet at the Johnston Realty Office at 2:00 p.m. and you and Mr. Dennison went to the property and looked at the property first and then came to 'he office. This has to do with attitude. Mr. Dennison said he went down on the beach and saw a little bit of water sweating out there and he tol my client he wouldn't eat any of the oysters there. The guy walked out and I lost the sale. 30hnston: Mr. ,Johnston stated that the community plan is supposed to precedence, and all of a sudden the County says here is an optimum e in your plan. The business area was moved up the Duckabush to the ge dump area. David Goldsmith added that the Brinnon Community Plan precedence over the County Comprehensive plan. There was a discussion of t e Comprehensive Plan map for Brinnon. Mr. Johnston continued by st'ating that the County fathers should make decisions on our proposals and the environmental standards should be used, but if you can meet all the standards then you should be able to do it. Mr. Boling asked to address RCW 36.70. All this is, is a law the County to do this. We were ,told last week that this was a had this. You don't even have to have a Planning Department. Norman: Pete Norman stated that he has only been at one meeting, the t Quilcene last week. I bought Peak's Antiques, north of Quilcene. If ve my business for a six month period of time; I can't open that again business. If I want to sell it, I must sell it as a residence, not as iness. Fred rick Tuso: My name's Frederick Tuso. I've sat through several of these meetings and I've worked for Planning Commission's in California and that's part of the reason why I left. I own 28 acres, a piece of property surr unded the National Forest and State property. It was an original home tead. This property has been paying taxes for over 110 years, even before Washington statehood. I have a lot of plans for this property, many of w ich I have not the money or energy to perform before this code goes into effe.t. I, as almost everyone else in this room, am by nature non conform- ing. That is the primary reason why we are in Brinnon and ,Jefferson County '.VOl 15 rAG~ '002907 Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of .June 12, 1989 Page: 9 in the first place. My buildings are unique, federally patented, roof wall systems. My buildings and my life remain as I envision. Live your vision. I have already spent 18 years invested in this property and must continue, as my sons will, building my buildings for me. Our developing our lands as we deem appropriate. You can't even tell me what resource production means, which is the classification someone decided for my property. I must voice my opposition against this ordinance in totality, as not to incriminate myself and my offspring. David Boone: My name is David Boone and I live here in Brinnon. I have a small business that I started in my home. I'm opposed to this plan because under this plan I can't grow. I can't employ more than two non-fami 1 y employees. We're tucked up in the woods and probably 99% of the people in this community don't even know we're there. We operate very quietly. It's a mail order business. I was told by Rachel (Nathanson, former Planning Department employee) that businesses like that are what the County wants to encourage, but you're not encouraging it by limiting it to two employees. That's why I'm opposed to it. Barbara Fisk: Barbara Fish asked what the next process is after all these hearings have been completed? Is this the process that this kind of decision is up to you people sitting at that table right now? Is it going to go the way of everything else and you are going to make your decision despite what you have heard tonight? Chairman Brown stated that he hopes some of the pertinent comments will be incorporated into the document. Andy Thurston asked if there will be a hearing after the Board makes the changes they want to the document, so that people can voice their opinion on it? An unidentified man asked if there was any way to delay action on this document? Chairman Brown responded that comments will be accepted on the document until .June 30. Stan .Johnston: Stan ,Johnston asked if the County can accept or reject this ordinance in total by your vote? Chairman Brown indicated that it could be rejected. Many Unidentified People: Why wasn't there better advertisement of these hearings? What about the part time people that own waterfront and a lot of stuff here, who aren't here to speak for themselves. Why can't we vote on it? Do we have any recourse or is this it? Can't it go to a referendum? Port Townsend shouldn't have anything to say about what's going on out here. We're the ones that have made this County what it is. What will it take for us to have one more voice before this is done. Fat Smitty: r'm from Discovery Bay. Planning and water quality. Basically what this is, isa government bureaucracy to squeeze the tax dollar out of you. In 1985 this marvelous Committee spent $180,312.00 to help us. In 1986 $214,054.00, in 1987 $225,800. They're leading us down the rosey pass to righteousness. In 1988 its going to $325,502.00. God knows what its going to be in 1989. We haven't even got police protection in ,Jefferson County in the early mornings and they can justify spending this kind of money on the implementing ordinance. People have to be crazy to want to pass this implementing ordinance. Several Unidentified people: We never did get an answer whether you guys are going to pass this ordinance or not after hearing all these comments, and if you do is there anything we can do to stop it? Are you listening to us? Commissioner B. G. Brown stated that the Commissioners have to listen to everybody. How were the first two meetings, in favor or against this ordinance? The only people in favor of this are people that are not in business. Regardless of the people in Port Townsend that want to stunt the growth, you are going to have to have growth somewhere. The little outlying communities need growth to sustain themselves. Port Townsend is so much against growth. It doesn't make any sense to put law upon law on the people. T Vel 15 rAG~ 00 2908 . .,."" ,i " <'~. Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of .June 12, 1989 Page: 10 the more laws we have the more things we have to pay for. trying to encourage growth not depress it. You should be Jeff Monroe: .Jeff Monroe stated that he has Monroe House Moving in Quilcene and that he is totally against this ordinance. It will drive business out of this county. Recently House Bill 2070 passed which will increase the number of houses moved in this State by 500% in the next two years. I have an expansion plan for my acre of land .in Quilcene which is bordered by six residential houses, but my new expansion can be shut down by three signa- tures, if this ordinance passes. Why should I spend $50,000 on a new expansion when I can be shut out with just three signatures. There's no way. I cannot stay in Jefferson County if this passes. Daryl Moealina: Daryl Moegling stated that there's been a lot of money spent, a lot of tax dollars spent and a lot of controversy and unfortunately it hasn't been written up in the paper as well as another side or another point of view has. There are a lot of people in this County,. there' sa sleeping giant in ,Jefferson County and maybe we have Port Townsend to thank for i tjust starting to wake up. While we . haven 't been to the County offices, or the public library, because we haven't been involved. I'm glad to see that you're involved. If nothing else our community plan, which we just started, is bringing the community together. I'm against this document and do not want it passed. Concerning your plan here in Brinnonand the addendum that came with the plan. Something for Quilcene and Brinnon to think about is 2,000 square foot per business. We're going to get caught later on. The biggest problem in this plan is five years down the road. There is a lot of in home activity and its' going to require more than two people. The more I read this draft the more I can pick it apart. I think we have to throw it out and start over. The Planning Commission is not a good represen- tation of the County. I hope that the Commissioners take the time to back up and take a big breath on this. I think we're going to be better Commis- sioners, and Planners and we' 11 have a better comm1.mi ty. Dan Titterness: Dan Titterness stated that obviously everyone here cares. My only point tonight is what if? Is it going to happen the way it should? We can't enforce what we want. We can't enforce it, unless we have this ordinance. Murray Perley: Murray Perley asked where comments should be sent - the Planning Department or the Board of Commissioners. The Board advised that comments should be sent to the County Commissioners. Andy Thurston: Doesn't the County have some control over someone coming in with a development? David Goldsmith responded that the County does to a certain degree. It's a question of location. You have a community plan here. Luckv Thornton: Mr. Thornton asked if the State has laws on planning and development and whatnot. David Goldsmith responded that there are laws on Shorelines and there is the Building Code. Mr. Thornton stated that everything the County passes is beyond the State code. Darvl Moealina: Daryl Moegling stated that he understands that there is a threshold on SEPA (State Environmental Policy Act) which is built so that different departments in Counties or the State can run things through SEPA. SEPA has become a whipping post in some cities and c01.tnties. It is my understanding that if you get a bUilding permit in ,Jefferson County then you can reach a SEPA threshold. After a determination of significance or non- significance is made you can be run through a whole system. 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