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M I NUT E S
WEEK OF AUGUST 14, 1989
The meeting was called to order by Chairman George C. Brown in the
presence of Commissioner B. G. Brown and Commissioner Larry W. Dennison.
Ella Sandvia, Human Services Administrator re: Grant Application
for Fundina re: Community Mobilization Aaainst Substance Abuse= Department
of Community Development: Ella Sandvig discussed the details of this grant
application for $26,684.00. Part of the grant requires 25 percent matching
funds. Mayor Brent Shirley offered to match $3,000.00 from the City Budget.
Ella Sandvig is requesting that the County also consider matching $3,000.00
from the 1990 Budget. The grant funds would be available in October but the
County funding wouldn I t be needed until 1990. Ella wants the Board to
authorize her to apply for the grant and to match $3,000.00 in 1990.
Part of the grant would enable the Department to hire a community liaison
person that would be attached to the 3efferson County Sheriff's Office. This
person would go out into the communities within the county to help organize
groups and encourage them to continue. The liaison would be interconnecting
the agencies that are working with drug and alcohol abuse to standardize
information and coordinate training. Ella Sandvig reported that Mel is eager
to have a community liaison and that Bob Hinton agreed that the police could
share in the training. The liaison would be considered a staff person with
the responsibilities of working with the schools, organizing space, putting
out flyers and other duties.
Commissioner B. G. Brown moved to authorize Ella Sandvig to apply for
Community Mobilization Funds, and to consider matching funds in the amount
of $3,000.00 from the 1990 Budget. Commissioner Dennison seconded the motion
which passed by unanimous vote.
Public Notice re: Chanae in Commissioners. Meetina Date: AUQUst 28,
1989 to be Re-scheduled to Tuesday, AUQUst 29, 1989: Commissioner Dennison
moved to approve the public notice for the change in the Commissioners I
Meeting date. Commissioner B. G. Brown seconded the motion which passed by
unanimous vote.
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PUBLIC WORKS
BEARING re: Peti tion to Vacate County Road Riaht-Of-way RV0818:
A Portion of Irondale Street in Morissey I s Addition. Hadlock: Cindy Nordbera.
Petitioner: Petitioner, Cindy Nordberg was present as well as Gary Rowe,
Public Works Director and Eileen Simon, Administrative secretary. Eileen
Simon reported that the re~~est is to vacate Irondale Street lying between
Lot 1 of Block 2 and Lot 15 of Block 1 in the Plat of Morissey's Addition to
Hadlock. The right-of-way the Nordbergs would like vacated is 125 feet long
and 60 feet wide and it is about 5 miles south of the Port Townsend city
limits. The reason the vacation is requested is to allow more space between
the existing road and the Nordberg1s home. She reviewed the findings, and
agency responses. The Assessor figured compensation for the vacated area at
$1,315.00.
Testimony from adjacent and nearby property owners was reviewed and Eileen
Simon reported that testimony was also received from Ruth Helper who favors
the vacation and would like the entire street vacated due to its being
dangerous, and from June Hunsaker who favors the vacation and would prefer
that all of the street be vacated so that it could be barricaded.
The Planning Commission recommends that the vacation request be denied, and
that the Board of County Commissioners study the feasibility of moving the
road into its correct alignment.
Commissioner George Brown opened the Hearing and asked for comments for or
against the proposed vacation.
Cindy Nordberg: Ms. Nordberg stated that she spoke with the Water Department
and they said that they planned on coming onto the main at Morissey Avenue,
not Blanche. They said that if they did come off the main on Morissey Avenue
and put in a fire hydrant there would be no problem. She noted that everyone
turns around in her driveway and that if the County wanted to put the road
in right, it would be very close to her house. At the time the road was
built there wasn't a setback. There isn't any way to move the road over
because if they did then some property owners would have to give up part of
their land to the right-of-way. It is a 60 foot wide road right-of-way. She
stated that there isn't any reason why the dead end couldn1t be vacated and
turned into private property as the adjacent property owners would like to
have the land. As far as the Transportation Study, she said that she
couldn't see why or how that would have anything to do with the vacation.
She sees no reason why the road would have to be there. She plans to put in
her own water line and fire hydrant as there are too many people on the
present water line.
Commissioner Dennison responded to Cindy Nordberg1s question about what the
Transportation study had to do with the requested vacation. He said that the
County is trying to look at things with the next ten or fifteen years in
mind, not just the present situation. The Transportation Study helps to
insure that the County does not shut off any options that may be regretted
in the future. He pointed out that if the road were vacated and then it
turned out that the County needed the street for transportation, the County
would have to buy the land back.
Eileen Simon recapped the rationale for the recommendation to deny the
request for vacation and Gary Rowe stated that the transportation study is
in next year's Budget. Hearing no further comment, Chairman George Brown
closed the hearing.
Commissioner Dennison moved to deny the road vacation as recommended by the
Planning Commission. Commissioner B. G. Brown seconded the motion which
passed unanimously.
BEARING re: Petition to Vacate County Road Riaht-Of-wav RV0814:
Peabody Way in Trails End Homesite. Shine: Arthur I'ields. Petitioner: The
petitioners, Mr. and Mrs. Arthur Fields, were present. Eileen Simon reviewed
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the petition to vacate Peabody Way. Peabody Way adjoins Lots 1 and 11 of
Block 5 and Lot 16 of Block 3 in the plat of Trail's End Homesite. The
request is to vacate approximately 170 feet of 60 foot width. The area is
about 20 miles south of the Port Townsend city limits. The principal
petitioner is requesting the road vacation to allow barricading the road.
This would prevent further erosion and sliding due to the use of dirt bikes
and four-wheel drive vehicles in the area.
Findings, agency responses, and testimony recei ved were reviewed. Puget
Power received a signed easement from the property owner and they request
that this easement be a condition of approval as it enables them to maintain
service and maintenance in the area. The Assessor's Department determined
the compensation for the requested vacation at $1,950.00.
The Planning Commission recommends that the vacation request be approved as
proposed with the conditions that a trail easement and an easement for
utilities be reserved.
Chairman George C. Brown opened the hearing and asked for testimony for or
against the proposed vacation.
Arthur Fields, the principal petitioner, stated that his primary concern is
the unstable condi tionof the land and slides caused by dirt bikers. He also
stated concern over confrontation with the bikers. He stated he understood
that the Thornes wanted to walk on Peabody Way and that he did not consider
that a problem. He reviewed where his property was and pointed out that some
of the terrain is so rough that he doubted people could walk it. He stated
that the smiths would get 15 feet of the vacated road and he would get 15
feet and that he sees nothing wrong with taking 10 feet out of the middle of
this and putting in a barricade that allows pedestrians and blocks dirt
bikers. He was shown the design of this type of fence by a county road
employee.
Charles Thorne verified that the Board received his letter written on August
8, 1989. One of his concerns is the permanency of a road vacation. He
stated that he preferred a different solution and questioned the barricade
as being adequate to solve the problem. He proposed a "road closed" sign be
posted instead of vacating the road.
Gary Rowe informed Mr. Thorne that the road can be closed and restricted to
specific uses such as pedestrian traffic. He stated that the Board can close
a road and restrict the use by access and that Peabody Way is impassable as
it is.
Charles Thorne said that he would like to protect the future for roads being
opened if the County should see fit to do so.
Commissioner B. G. Brown asked about the topography of the area and if the
slope was 30 to 40 percent?
Gary Rowe responded that the slope is 30 to 40 percent and that at one time
the road was cut through, but due to erosion the road became basically
impassable. The road wasn't very good 20 years ago, or whenever the plat was
completed. He stated that the corner of Peabody and Thorndyke Road is is the
only portion of the road that is flat. He said that it wouldn't be a good
location for a road and that if a road were put in it would be difficult to
maintain. He noted that constructing a path through Peabody Way would not
be difficult to accomplish or maintain.
Scott Kilmer, Transportation Planner, who has inspected the . site, stated that
the grade is well over 30 to 40 percent and that you probably couldn't access
anything through Peabody Way other than a trail.
Commissioner B. G. Brown asked if it would ever be feasible to build a road
on the site? Scott Kilmer replied "Notr.
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During further discussion it was determined that building a road on Peabody
Way in the future is not a reasonable expectation. Gary Rowe informed the
Board that it is not the only way to accesS all the parcels. There is access
to the lower side from Southpoint Road and to the upper side from Thorndyke
Road.
Marjorie Thorne said she wanted to be able to park her car, as she's been
doing, to get to the trees on her property and to check to see if there is
any erosion. She hasn't seen any erosion since she's owned the property in
1915. She stated that currently the Fields have given her verbal permission
to park, although it is public access and she shouldn't re~~ire the Fields'
permission. There isnl~ any other place to park, with such close access, to
her upland property. She would like assurance that she may continue to park
in this area. She has further access on South Beach Drive.
Arthur Fields commented that the area Mrs. Thorne is referring to is the area
they are concerned about eroding away as his garage is very close to it. He
also stated that he has no objections to parking in the area.
There being no further testi~ony, Chairman George C. Brown closed the
hearing. Commissioner Dennison moved to approve the petition to vacate
Peabody Way with trail and utility easements as recommended by the Planning
Commission. Commissioner B. G. Brown seconded the motion which carried by
a unanimous vote.
Marjorie Thorne asked about her parking needs and clarification as to what
the vacation means.
Commissioner Dennison explained the County rights in rights-of-way
determinations ~ The Peabody Way right-of-way was for transportation purposes
not parking. It was given as a potential road, but since it's unnecessary
to keep the land as a road the land goes back on the tax rolls. Commissioner
Dennison stated that the land was not originally meant for a parking lot and
that such use would have to be by agreement with the owners. It was
suggested that Marjorie Thorne work out a written agreement with the Fields
or the Smiths for her parking. It was clarified that the right-of-way will
be considered a pedestrian right-of-way.
Discussion and Recommendation re: Gardiner Beach Road: Fourteen
residents from Gardiner Beach Road were present when Gary Rowe presented
information on the road and projected overlays of the alternatives possible
for solving the traffic problems. He stated that the problems revolve around
sightseeing or "tourist" traffic. The main problem is caused by increased
traff ic going down the road the wrong way. Gardiner Beach Road was
designated as a one way road in 1981 from the boat ramp up to Rondelay Road
where it joins with Gardiner Beach Road. He explained that only a portion
of Gardiner Beach Road is one way and that all the other roads in the area
are two way streets. The one-way section of the road wasn't widened in 1979
or 1980 because it would have required acquisition of right-of-way. The
alternative was to make it a one-way street. Now Gary Bandy's Trollhaven
Farm has caused an increase in traffic going the wrong direction. It was
noted that residents have also been known to go the wrong way. He suggested
two temporary improvements:
1) To sign Gardiner Beach Road to direct traffic for Mr. Bandy's Farm onto
Rondelay Road which would decrease the traffic on Gardiner Beach Road.
The stop sign could be relocated to stop traffic at the intersection
where Rondelay meets with Gardiner Beach Road. The one-way signs could
be moved down to a developed parking area where traffic could turn
around. There would be a left turn lane into the parking area which is
off the road. The one-way designation would begin after the parking
lot.
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2) To sign the traffic to Bandy1s farm onto Rondelay Road and to post
"LOCAL TRAFFIC ONLY" signs past Bandy's residence to the boat launch.
The road could revert to two-way traffic which would support local
traffic, although it's not considered wide enough to carry a large
volume of traffic.
Gary Rowe reported that signing the road but not widening it is immediately
proposed. It was noted that it is hard to enforce one-way traffic and that
the local residents find it an inconvenience. If the two-way traffic were
returned to that section of the road it was noted that visibility is poor.
The reason the road was originally closed off was cited as "the existing
roadway has a narrow width" with "poor site distance due to numerous
obstructions along the roadway edge." The best option agreed upon by local
residents and the Board was based on public hearing and was the least costly
to the County of all the options considered. Physically the road hasn't been
altered since that time, although an intersection on the westerly end of the
road has been improved slightly. After further discussion Chairman George
Brown requested commen~s from the Gardiner Beach Road residents.
Beecher Snipes said that he has to go 1 1/10 mile out of his way to use
Gardiner Beach Road asa one-way. It is a big inconvenience to him. He said
that it is nine feet on one side of the road and six feet on the other side
to the fences which could be used to widen the road if necessary. He watched
the traffic over the weekend and he saw two cars going the wrong direction,
one a delivery vehicle and one a local resident. He said he's never seen the
one-way traffic enforced. Portions of the road off Highway 101 are narrower
than the one-way portion of Gardiner Beach Road and Rondelay road is about
the same width. He recommends that Gardiner Beach Road be made a two-way
road with a sign "LOCAL RESIDENTS ONLY" until it can be widened to a proper
road, as it will need to be done eventually due to growth in the area.
Gary Bandy stated that the traffic problems are minor. Most of the tourists
come from NACO West, the recreational vehicle park on Highway 101. Those
attracted to Trollhaven drive slowly. He said that he has not advertised. or
given any encouragement to visitors. The problem will increase with growth,
such as the Mitsubishi development. He suggested that something be done now
to alleviate the problem. His solution would be to widen the road to a two-
way, which it used to be. Being a major property owner in the area he would
be willing to donate property or to do anything he can to "appease the
complaints of the minority of the neighbors" and look forward to solving the'
problem as it's only g?ing to get worse.
Gertrude Snipes suggested that the County take advantage of the philosophy
of planning for the future now, which Commissioner Dennison had mentioned in
regard to a petition to vacate. She explained that the east end of Gardiner
is designated as commercial and when the Mitsubishi development is finished
the traffic will come down Gardiner Beach Road from the west and go into the
commercial area that will develop as a result of Mitsubishi. She noted that
the road off of Highway 101 is treacherous and that it should be straightened
out. She reminded the Board that in 1981 Gary Bandy, Richard Howe, and Mr.
and Mrs. Snipes wrote to the Board stating that they didn1t want Gardiner
Beach Road one-way. As none of them were able to be present they thought
their letters would be given some consideration. She stated that if they had
been 1 istened to, this mess wi th Gardiner Beach Road would never have
happened. She feels that money should have been spent straightening out the
road and not allowing property owners to develop their land to the point that
it is now.
Jim Rueter does not feel that widening Gardiner Beach Road would improve it
as it is quiet and scenic. He thinks a one-way is sensible as the road isn't
wide enough for two-way traffic.
Jim Marner stated that after looking at the alternatives and assessing the
problem he feels that :there are two attractions, the "Bandy operation" and
the boat ramp. Part of, the problem he sees is the increasing traffic and the
potential accidents due to a blind spot on Gardiner Beach Road. He suggested
that the County isolate the boat ramp and the Bandy operation by putting up
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a blockade and splitting the traffic so that the tourists go where they want
to go and the boat people go where they want to go. Gary Rowe noted that a
blockade would not take into consideration emergency vehicle access. 3im
Warner explained possible methods of access if a blockade were placed after
the Bandy property.
Mrs. Snipes asked where the cul-de-sacs would be located for turn arounds and
if Mr. Warner was willing to donate land for such a use. She pointed out
that most cul-de-sacs ~ave good, wide roads.
Lou Madau pointed out that it is the local residents who do not obey the
signs. The tourists ,tend to stop. He questioned why the County would
consider moving the stop sign from his driveway to the property across the
road. He stated that accidents happened at the stop sign where it is now
when people neglect to stop. He was a victim of a hit and run at this point.
The road is hazardous. and should be changed. He feels a sign directing
people to Bandy's Trollhaven was a good idea and changing the name of
Rondelay to Troll Road might be an advantage. As far as'keeping Gardiner
Beach Road a one-way, with the advent of Mitsubishi and the residential
building going on in conjunction with the services needed, a two-way road
will be required. He stated that the idea of a barrier across the road
wouldn't last for more than a week or two and it would be difficult for mail
delivery.
Commissioner Dennison reminded the residents that these are temporary
improvements that are under consideration and that Gardiner Beach Road should
be widened in the future. He noted that the road will have to be put on the
six year road plan before it can be improved.
Lou Madau noted that as a taxpayer he doesn't want to see the County sued and
also pointed out that there are deep ditches that need fixing. He reminded
the County that during the Fishing Derby there are large boats going down the
road and he has pulled a few out of the ditches in the past.
Mrs. Snipes asked what, the reasoning was behind leaving the blind spot on
Gardiner Beach Road so narrow? She also commented on the previous names of
Gardiner Beach Road stating that the Board ought to do what is proper in that
respect.
Gary Rowe informed her that there were objections raised by property owners
on widening the road between the boat ramp and Rondelay road. At that time
the solution was to ma~e it one-way.
Philip Zerr, Chairman of the Fire Commissioners in District #5, stated that
he received a letter from Scott Kilmer requesting the Fire Commissioners I
input. The Fire Department would require access, they do need a through
street as they need to get to the properties from both directions. They
couldn't go along with ~ barricade as they only have two hydrants in the area
they have to be able to get in any way they can.
Scott Merrell stated that he goes the wrong way on Gardiner Beach Road
because it isn't practical to drive an extra 1,000 feet, opposed to driving
100 feet from the one-way sign, just to get to his driveway. He would like
to see the road revert back to a two-way road whether it is widened or not.
There is increased tension in the neighborhood with calls to the Sheriff, and
tourists going the wrong way. He said that he'd like a "multi-directional
thoroughfare" and that .the road wouldn't have to be widened if it were posted
"LOCAL TRAFFIC ONLY" with a lower speed limit. This would also mean that
property owners would not be inconvenienced, and property owners at the end
of the road would not 10se any of their land.
Ruth Henshaw stated that the whole concern now is the tremendous amount of
traffic and the one-way street. Most of the people who go the wrong way say
that they didn't see the sign or that someone told them to go that way. Now
that there is a tourist attraction in a residential community there are a lot
of new conditions. She feels it should be the way it is now with restric-
tions that only local residents could use the road as a two-way. She thinks
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routing the sightseeing traffic up Rondelay Road would be a good idea. She
feels that consideration should be given to the people that live there now.
She suggested that since Mr. Bandy offered property, he could donate it to
help build a road or extend the present one.
Wayne King agreed with 3im Warner's suggestion to put up a barrier. He felt
that property could qe donated for a turn around. He stated that the
emergency vehicles would find it closer to go by way of Rondelay Road than
Gardiner Beach Road. Right now his driveway is used as a turn around. He
gave Gary Rowe a 15 minute video of "86 cars in two hours" using the Gardiner
Beach Road.
Gary Bandy stated that putting a barricade up would only serve the interests
of a minority of three property owners, not the majority. He said that he
agreed with Mr. Merrell and the rest of the neighbors that the road should
revert back to a two-way road and he's willing to donate land for that.
Mayne King corrected Mr. Bandy by stating that it was six households, not
three. .
Mrs. Movius commented on the traffic dangers to the children of the area
because of the locals, buses, and tourist traffic.
3im Heuter said that it is a rare occurrence for 82 cars to go by in two
hours although it is possible. He stated that he's concerned about his
children on the road but he considers the road safe. He agrees that-blocking
the road, from a safety standpoint, is a bad idea.
Commissioner Dennison moved to table action until a meeting to
viable solution could be arranged with the Public Works
Commissioner.B. G. Brown seconded the motion which passed by
vote.
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BID OPEBINGSre: CRe738 Construction: Oak Bav /I"laaler Intersection
ImDrovements: At the appointed time, Gary Rowe opened the bid received from
Lakeside Industries for $263,665.61. The Engineer1s Estimate was
$237,213.55. Commissioner Dennison moved to have the Public Works Department
review the bid for accuracy and make a recommendation to the Board.
Commissioner B. G. Brown seconded the motion which carried by unanimous vote.
Closina a Portion of Glen Cove Road Between SR20 and Otto Street:
Gary Rowe reported that the closure of a portion of Glen Cove Road would be
in conjunction with planned improvements to Otto Street from Frederick Avenue
north to where the intersection of the platted right-of-way is called
Lawrence Street. The street has to be closed in order to construct the
improvements. The recommendations through the transportation plan have been
to block this section of road. There is access through Otto Street. The
Department of Transportation would also like to see this road closed.
Workshops have been held on this closure.
Gary Rowe recommended that since the Board, by statute, has the authority to
close a road by resol~tion, that this be done. After further discussion
Commissioner Dennison moved to approve RESOLUTION NO. 69-89 authorizing the
closure of a portion of Glen Cove Road; Commissioner B. G. Brown seconded
the motion which carried unanimously.
Claim For Damaaes: Robin Louise Bauf No. C-03-89: Commissioner
B. G. Brown moved to approve this claim for damage to a vehicle, and
Commissioner Larry Dennison seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
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SOLID WASTE
Recruest From Quilcene Communi tv Fair for Free Garbaae DulnDina for
Saturdav August 26. 1989: Gary Rowe presented the request for free garbage
dumping in preparation for the Quilcene Community Fair. He noted that
community organizations have been allowed free dumping at the landfill, but
not at the drop box sites due to the cost of hauling a drop box, unless the
organization makes their own arrangements for hauling the drop box to the
dl~p. There has also been the understanding that the materials put in the
drop box are from public areas or rights-of-way. After further discussion
it was determined that.Mrs. Phillips be contacted and that the conditions for
the request be drafted along with tonnage and other conditions before a
decision is made.
FACILITIES MANAGEMENT
Farm Home Administration (FmBA) re: Port Townsend Communi tv Center =
Grant for a Total of Seven Hundred Eighty-Nine Thousand Dollars: Commissioner
B. G. Brown moved to approve RESOLUTION NO. 10-89 for authorizing and
providing for the incurrence of indebtedness for the purpose of providing a
portion of the cost of acquiring, constructing, enlarging, improving, and/or
extending the Community Center facility. Commissioner Dennison seconded the
motion with passed unanimously.
Letter from. Board of County Commissioners to FmBA Requesting a
Lower Interest Rate: After discussion with Gary Rowe Commissioner B. G. Brown
moved to sign and send the letter to FmHA re~~esting a lower interest rate
and Commissioner Larry Dennison seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
PLAlflfING AlID BUILDING
Review of Comments Received on. SEPA Review: Shoreline Permit:
Discoverv Bav. 3acobson Brothers. Inc.: Planning Director, David Goldsmith,
was present to review. the comments on the Jacobson Brothers' experimental
cable laying operation in Discovery Bay. He reported that when the
application for exemption was first received the State Department of Ecology
(DOE), Water Quality section, was contacted as it was thought that this would
be a water quality issue. The Department of Ecology indicated that this was
not the kind of operation that would require any kind of water quality
review. Planning countered this by saying that they felt it did require a
water quality review and they'd pursue it through the SEPA Review process,
which was done. Since then, the Department of Ecology sent a letter to
Planning dated August 8, 1989 in which they said they will be doing water
quality monitoring. In the interim the J'acobson Brothers were re~~ired to
do sediment analysis against the same parameters required for mechanical clam
harvesting as both operations have similarities. The standards are now
applied statewide. There are two places wi thin Discovery Bay which would not
have met the standards if the J'acobson Brothers had decided to pursue the
Shoreline Permit, however, the J'acobson Brothers withdrew their proposal.
PreliminarvSubdivision: BishoD Acres: Hadlock. West of Intersec-
tion of Cedar & Mason Streets: Loren BishoD. ADDlicant: Greg Waddell, the
Property Designer and .two interested neighborhood residents, Art Hultin and
Mrs. Thatcher, were present. Assistant Planner, J'erry Smith, presented the
proposal to develop a thirty-nine lot residential subdivision on about
sixteen acres which are located in Hadlock, west of the intersection of Cedar
and Mason Streets. F9ur of the lots are intended for duplex construction
with an average size of 25.525 square feet. The single family lot sizes
range from 1,120 to 12,500 square feet. Power, water, telephone and refuse
collection would be served to all lots and a common open space area would be
owned by all the lot owners. The lots would each be granted a drainfield
easement in this open space.
The Planning Commission reviewed the proposal, Agency comments were received,
and conditions were set. Concerns were expressed by Arthur Hul tin and Arnold
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Sweat on traffic impact, buffers between the planned subdivision and Woodland
Acres, manufactured home placement, restrictive covenants for the exolusion
of mobile homes, minimum lot size of 12,500 square feet, and a greenbelt
perimeter buffer. The Planning Commission made additions and corrections to
the conditions and 'concluded that the preliminary plat of Bishop Acres
subdivision meets the requirements for preliminary plat approval and is
consistent with the provisions of the Jefferson County Comprehensive Plan.
The Commission recommended that the Board of Commissioners approve the
proposal.
Commissioner Dennison questioned the minimum lot size of 12,500 square feet?
David Goldsmith said that this requirement is for on-site sewage, processed
sewage, and community water systems. In this case off-site sewage is
proposed for a portion of the development, which is what the greenbelt area
is for.
Greg Waddell reported that there were 14 interior lots that were below the
12,500 square foot minimum lot size and that there was enough open space
reserved for all 14 of these lots to be used as a drainfield. He added that,
based on the way the plat reads, the definition of lot size goes to the
centerline of the street. Taking this into account, these interior lots
probably exceed 14,000 to 15,000 square feet. He also stated that if you
take the gross area of the interior and divide it by 14 lots you come up with
12,498 square feet, which is two feet short of the required 12,500 per lot,
even with the open space. He described the reasons for creating this design
and noted that drainfield easements have been done in California.
David Goldsmith noted that the ten percent open space and the densi ty
requirements are met by this project. Further discussion was held regarding
buffers, traffic impact, soils and setbacks.
Art Hultin informed the Board that he's contacted residents of Woodland Acres
and that there are concerns about traffic impact, especially in regard to
small children. He also had concerns about the greenbelt barrier as there
used to be one, but it was cut down. He noted that they are attractive but
they don't keep people off the property.
Commissioner Dennison informed Mr. Hultin that the County is not bound to
insure that people keep off of private property as that is an individual
concern.
Mrs. Thatcher pointed out that when you come from Irondale Road onto
Fitchberg street you cannot make a turn without going into the other lane as
the turn is too sharp. If there is anyone parked on the end of Fitchberg the
turn is really substandard.
Commissioner B. G. Brown said that there may be a need to look at the traffio
in the area and determine what the development could do to Woodland Acres.
Commissioner B. G. Brown moved to approve the preliminary plat of Bishop
Acres with the conditions as proposed and recommended by the Planning
Commission. Commissioner Larry Dennison seconded the motion which passed by
a unanimous vote.
Final Zerr Short Plat: Zerr Short ;Plat: Gardiner. Fronting on Hwy
101 & Old Gardiner Road: Phillip Zerrf Applicant: The applicant, Philip Zerr
was present. Assistant Planner, Jerry Smith reviewed this application and
pointed out that Public Works, and the Board of Health have approved it and
that the Zerr Short Plat is ready for final approval. Commissioner B. G.
Brown moved to approve the Final Zerr Short Plat, and Commissioner Dennison
seconded the motion which passed by a unanimous vote.
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HUMAN SERVICES
Appointment of Mental Heal th Professionals: Human Services:
Commissioner Larry Dennison moved to approve RESOLUTION NO. 71-89 appointing
Mental Health Professionals. Commissioner B. G. Brown seconded the motion
which passed unanimously.
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The Board recessed at the end of the business day and reconvened on August
16, 1989 with Chairman George Brown, Commissioner B. G. Brown, and
Commissioner Larry W. Dennison present.
Guy McMinds. OUinaul t Indian Nation f Planning and Building
Department f and Prosecuting Attorney re: Yakima v. Brendale: Affectinq the
Riqpts of Zoninq Powers: Those present for the meeting were Tribal Councilman
Guy R. McMinds, Office of Reservation Attorney Richard ReiCh, Reservation
Planning Director Rich Wells, Reservation Attorney Amy Crewdson, Jefferson
County Planning and Building Director David Goldsmith, Assistant Planner
Jerry Smith, and Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Mark Huth.
A letter was sent by the Quinault Indian Nation on August 3, 1989 in which
it is explained that in the past Jefferson county took the position that the
Quinaul t Nation possessed exclusive authority to regulate the use of non-
Indian owned fee land within the Quinault Reservation. In Sechrist v .
Ouinault Indian Nation the United States District Court upheld this decision.
In the recent Supreme Court decision, Brendale v. Confederated Tribes and
Bands of the Yakima Indian Reservation, they held that the Yakima Nation lost
its authority to regulate land use on non-Indian owned fee land in the open
area portion of the reservation. The Yakima Reservation retained its rights
over the remaining portions of reservation land. Differences between the
Quinault Indian Nation and the Yakima Indian Reservation were pointed out ~nd
the position of Jefferson County after Brendalev. Yakima was sought.
Guy McMinds informed the Board that the Quinaults are hoping that there isn't
a stampede of applications to Jefferson County as a result of the Brendale
decision as the Yakima Reservation has an entirely different set of facts
than those of the Quinault Reservation. Alternatives for the County and the
Tribe as they relate to the Brendale decision as well as the alternatives for
the individual property owners are in question. He noted that the Quinault
view is that there should be no change as a result of the Brendale decision.
The reasons for this position are as follows:
1) The Congress of the United States stated in its' legislation that it
would like to see the tribe regain entire control of the reservation.
2) There has been a "substantial agreement of the minds between the chiefs
of the various nations in washington state and the Governor of the State
of Washington in the Centennial Accord".
3) The Tribe has made major progress in dealing with land owners on the
reservation.
4) The Quinaults believe there has been substantial and important
litigation which has been settled and has been specific to the
Quinaults.
5) The Quinault Indian Nation has been enforcing zoning ordinances within
the boundaries of the reservation.
6) The Quinault Indian Nation has substantial control on the use of the
ocean property through its ownership of the beach which makes the
property in effect have value, as if it had the beach value added to
it.
7) Land owners are using the system set up by the Quinaul ts to process
applications for permits.
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A discussion was held on the al ternati ve responses , ~nterpretations and
reactions possible as the result of Brendale v. Yakima and various planning
issues. Those present expressed the need to have a coop~rative approach to
the issue in the future as it is in the best interestslof all the parties
involved. Since part of the reservation is in Grays Hatbor it was decided
that a workshop should be held with Grays Harbor County~ Jefferson county,
and the Quinault Indian Nation Tribal Government to cons~der views, options,
and future policy. Guy McMinds will report to the Tribal ICouncil and arrange
a work group. I
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The Board recessed at the end of the meeting and recontened on August 17,
1989 with. GhairIDan George Brown, Commissioner B. G. Browp, and
Commissioner Larry W. Dennison present. I
. INTERAGENCY AGREEMENT re: Payment of Costs in P:rjopoSed Manke LlnnhAr
Company Land Exchange. Gibbs Lake: stat.e Department ofl~atural Resources:
commissioner Larry Dennison moved to approve and sign ,of the Interagency
Agreement wi th the Department of Natural Resources fbr the purpose of
providing payment for costs associated with the proposed! land exchange with
Manke Lumber Company. Commissioner !
B. G. Brown seconded the motion which passed by a unanimous vote.
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