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MINUTES
WEEK OF OCTOBER 24, 1988
The meeting was called to order by Chairman B. G. Brown.
Commissioner George C. Brown was present. . Commissioner Larry W. Dennison was
absent due to illness.
BUSINESS FROM COUNTY DEPARTMENTS
PUBLIC WORKS
CONTRACT re: Purchase of Brush Bandit Brush ChiPDer; Utility
Eauipment, Inc.: Commissioner George Brown moved to approve the contract
wi th Utility Equipment, Inc. for the purchase of one Brush Bandit brush
chipper as the bid was awarded. Chairman B. G. Brown seconded the motion
which carried by a unanimous vote.
CONTRACT re: Courthouse Renovation; Tollshark Construction,
Chimacum: Property Manager, Carter Breskin, explained that all of the
paYments to Tollshark Construction on this contract will be placed in an
escrow account at the request of their bonding company. Commissioner George
Brown moved to approve the contract with Tollshark Construction for the
renovation of the Courthouse, as the bid was awarded. Chairman B. G. Brown
seconded the motion. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Establishment of Names for Private RoadS: Fulton Way, Freeman Lane,
Molenda Lane, Blaze Trail, Faaer Bill Road, Nelson Place and Carli Court:
Public Works Director Gary Rowe explained that these roads are all part of
a development just off of Highway 101 on the west side of Discovery Bay.
Commissioner George Brown moved to approve and sign Resolution No. 100-88
establishing the following names for private roads: Fulton Way, Freeman
Lane, Molenda Lane, Blaze Trail, Fager Hill Road, Nelson Place and Carli
Court. Chairman B. G. Brown seconded the motion. The motion carried by a
unanimous vote.
Establishment of Names for Pr:J.vate Roads; Dietz Drive and Smith
Lane: (See also minutes of July 25, 1988) The Fire District reviewed the
petitions submitted for these private road names and recommends that instead
of three names, this road be given two names: the first part of the road
would be named Dietz Drive and the last section of the road would be Smith
Lane. Commissioner George Brown moved to approve and sign Resolution No.
101-88 establishing names for private roads in the County as Dietz Drive and
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Smith Lane. Chairman B. G. Brown seconded the motion which carried by a
unanimous vote.
HEARIllG NOTrCE re: A'Dolication for Franchise, Rondelav Meadows
water SVstem: Commissioner George Brown moved to approve and sign Resolution
No. 102-88 setting the public hearing for the application for franchise for
the Rondelay Meadows Water System for November 21, 1988 at 10:30 a.m..
Chairman B. G. Brown seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote.
Cal~for B:J.ds: ODe Hew Fla'tbeb Truck: Commissioner George Brown
moved to call for bids for one new flatbed truck and set the bid opening date
for November 21, 1988 at 11:00 a.m.. Chairman B. G. Brown seconded the
motion. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
SR20/Airvort CUt-off Road Intersection: Gary Rowe read a memo
regarding improvements at the SR20/Airport CUtoff Road Intersection. The
State Department of Transportation has prepared a plan for improvements of
this intersection. Construction is planned for next spring unless right-of-
way acquisition causes a delay. The County is being requested to participate
in the cost of the improvements to the intersection which are estimated to
be $329,100.00. The County's share would be $131,640.00 (40% of the cost).
The County's share of the cost for this improvement is based on the traffic
count, Gary Rowe reported. After discussion of the intersection plans
Commissioner George Brown moved to direct the Public Works Department to
draft a letter of support for this project for the Board to sign. chairman
B. G. Brown seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote.
Al)pointment of Members to the Solid waste Advisory Committee:
Chairman B. G. Brown read a letter from Charles O'Conner, Chairman of the
solid Waste Advisory Committee, regarding appointments of members. Commis-
sioner George Brown moved to re-appoint Brent Shirley, Agness Walker, Mark
McCrary, and Fred Apstein each to another two year term. Ken Radon, and Al
Giersch were each appointed to serve three year terms. Chairman B. G. Brown
seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote. An advertisement will
be placed in the paper to find someone interested in filling the remaining
vacancy on this Committee.
Deoartment Memo re: AJ)oointments to the Parks Board: Chairman B.
G. Brown read a Memo from Carter Breskin, Property Manager asking that the
Board appoint Rick Tollefson, Scott Kilmer, Kevin Burke and Larry Scott to
four of the seven positions on the Parks Board. Commissioner George Brown
moved to appoint Rick Tollefson, Scott Kilmer, Kevin Burke and Larry Scott
to each serve a two year term on the Parks Board. Chairman B. G. Brown
seconded the motion which carried by a unanimous vote.
The Board suggested that the Public Works Department advertise for people to
fill the other three positions On this Board.
Aanes Walker and Randv Aldrich. Olvmoic Disposal re: Haulina
Garhaae: Mr. Randy Aldrich, Olympic Disposal, stated that they are concerned
about the County hauling the garbage containers from the transfers stations
to the landfill. The State has determined that this is illegal, Mr. Aldrich
added. They would like to come to an agreement with the County without
having to go to Court, to have the County stop hauling garbage that olympic
Disposal has a permit to haul. When the drop box sites were first installed
around the County, Olympic Disposal hauled the garbage to the landfill. Then
the County purchased their own truck and began hauling them.
Chairman B. G. Brown asked if Mr. Aldrich has a proposal to present to the
County? Mr. Aldrich stated that he does not have a proposal to present right
now, but their main interest is to get back into hauling those boxes and have
the County stop hauling them.
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The County needs to see a proposal from Olympic Disposal on this matter,
Chairman B. G. Brown stated, before a determination can be made on the best
way for the County to proceed. The Board suggested that Olympic Disposal
develop a proposal and submit it to the Public Works Department, who will
then discuss it with them further.
PLAHHIHG ARD BUILDING DBPARTMERT
State Environmental PolicY Act Review; Inner Harbor Villaae
Subdivision, :Inner Harbor of Port Ludlow BaY: PODe Resources, ADolicant: (See
also Minutes of October 3, and 17, 1988) Associate Planner, Jim Pearson
presented a Memo from the Planning Department that summarizes the comments
that have been received from various agencies on the mitigated determination
of non-significance that was issued for this project. He then reviewed the
Memo for the Board as well as proposed additions to the mitigative measures
which were developed as a result of the comments received.
The additional mitigative measures being recommended are:
#11 The construction of docks, piers and floats may only be
permitted on Lots 34, 35 and 36. No docks, piers or
floats shall be permitted on Lots 1 through 33. And the
placement of mooring buoys in the Inner Harbor ,shall not
be permitted.
#12 Removal of vegetation seaward of the plat setback line
shall be minimized.
#13 Shore defense work shall only be constructed of rock rip
rap and shall conform to the ordinary high water mark.
Rip rap shall have a slope of one foot vertical to two
feet horizontal.
Chairman B. G. Brown asked if the first 10 mitigative measures will stay the
same as listed in the original checklist? Mr. Pearson reported that they
would stay the same.
Chairman B. G. Brown then asked for comments from interested members of the
audience.
Ann Quantock: Mrs. Quantock stated that the letter submitted to the Board
by Harper Owes, dated October 14, 1988, raises a couple of questions in her
mind, particularly about the Inner Harbor flushing. There is about three
times the organic carbon in this area, than is found in the North Bay storm
water outfall. Mrs. Quantock stated that it is believed that this is caused
by vegetation which has drifted into the Inner Harbor and has not been
flushed back out again. The outfall from the storm water control system will
be directed at this area which does not appear to flush as well as other
areas of the Bay.
Table I in this letter, indicates that the Inner Harbor area fails a
transparency test now, by being right at three meters, Mrs. Quantock added.
There is confusion about the turbidity issue. She noted that the turbidity
information in the Harper Owes letter, may refer to a nitrogen and turbidity
rating, not a turbidity rating in and of itself. This confusion should be
addressed further.
The nitrogen levels, Mrs. Quantock continued, in Port Ludlow Bay and in the
Inner Harbor have not been addressed. I'm sure Dr. Harper would say that
this is a summertime problem and' that he is addressing the impacts from
winter runoff . I am a little disturbed by the split of winter summer
conditions in that bay.
Ann Hamilton: Mrs. Hamilton stated that she understands that the storm water
system will have a holding pond which will be located near her property.
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Mrs. Hamilton then read a letter regarding her concerns for a lagoon in this
area.
Ramp Harvey: Mr. Harvey stated that he lives in Port Ludlow and for the past
three and a half years has been personally involved in the preservation of
the Inner Harbor for use by boaters. The Inter Club Association has accepted
the challenge to acquire this property to preserve it, through the help of
the State Parks and Recreation commission. There have been all kinds of
charges to existing scientific data with respect to water quality made by the
Protect Ludlow Bay Committee. Mr. Harvey added that he doesn't think there
is any documentation from this Committee with respect to supporting their
position on the possible degradation of the water quality in the area.
With respect to the use of the Inner Harbor, Mr. Harvey noted, that if the
land is acquired for preservation the County will receive a plan for that
preservation. There will be no public access to the area from the land side.
The prohibition of docks that is suggested as a mitigative measure is just
fine. The boaters are going to continue to use the Bay, especially over the
4th of July, Labor Day, and the New Year's Christmas week activities. Mr.
Harvey concluded by saying that this harbor will continue to be used as it
has been used for many years, regardless of what is done by Jefferson County
or the State of Washington or the federal government. He suggested that
anyone who wants to protect the Bay should work with the boaters to try and
lessen the damage to the water. Mr. Harvey added that he does not think the
Board should change their stand on this project.
Dr. Martv Harper, Harper Owes: Marty Harper then addressed the comments
about the table included in his October 14, 1988 letter to the Board. The
comment was made that the total organic carbon as listed in the table of
existing conditions of sediments in the bay, indicates conclusively that
there is poor flushing in the Inner Harbor. Mr. Harper stated that he feels
that is a very liberal interpretation. It indicates to him that there is a
large organic source of carbon around that Bay. There are trees down to the
shoreline around the entire bay. There is a lot of shoreline in the Inner
Harbor relative to the water body, than the rest of the Bay and that's where
you'd expect that source of carbon.
David Goldsmith asked Dr. Harper to address the exchange of water in this
area? Dr. Harper explained that the flushing rate in that bay is on the
order of one volumes exchange of water each day. This is comparable to the
rest of the Bay. The flushing rate may be 30% of the water per day. The
main basin of the puget Sound has a 1% flushing rate per day, which is poor.
Dr. Harper then addressed Mrs. Quantock's comment that the table indicates
a transparency of three meters. The table indicates standard/criteria. A
standard is a standard set by the WAC (Washington Administrative Code) while
criteria is a number or value that is a goal that you would like to achieve
and is commonly accepted in the water quality profession. The present 1988
WAC has no standard for transparency. The three meters is a criterion or
goal. There is a turbidity standard of 6 NTU. The new law states that the
turbidity shall not exceed 6 NTU over background when background turbidity
is 60 NTU or less. When the background is less that 6 NTU (the background
in this area is 3 NTU) there is not anything stated with regard to an
allowable increase. Dr. Harper continued that because of the questions that
were raised at the last meeting about the impact of Ludlow Creek and of
different type of storms, he checked further into the turbidity standards.
Wi th regard to Mrs. Quantock' s comments regardi'ng nitrogen, Dr. Harper
reported that there is no nitrogen standard. The impact must be assessed
from the increases in nitrogen and phosphorus and how they relate to algae
and in turn how that relates to transparency. Mr. Harper predicted that
there will be significant increases in nutrients, however, even if this
increase occurs the algae, which affect transparency and turbidity, will not
respond to the increase. Algae growth is limited by light and water
temperature and that is why they will not respond to this increase.
DavidCunninQham: David cunningham addressed Mrs. Hamilton's concerns about
the use of a swale for a storm water runoff detention pond and for the lagoon
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in the area. He stated that what Mrs. Hamilton indicated as a storm
detention pond will not be used for that purpose at all.
The changes made to the environmental checklist as outlined by Mr. Pearson
and prompted by the comments received, are all accurate, David Cunningham
stated, and they are willing to accept all three and to strengthen the last
one. He added that if you go down and look at the lagoon Mrs. Hamilton
referred to you will find that the only natural place left on the entire
lagoon is the property owned by Pope Resources.
Pope Resources has never had a proposal to allow docks, piers, or anything
of that sort on the inside of the salt marsh. Pope's intention in that salt
marsh is to keep it natural and leave it natural, which is more than anyone
else in that area has done.
Mrs. Hamilton: Mrs. Hamilton asked Mr. Cunningham how the problem of
liability will be addressed when the tidelands are deeded to the Homeowners
Association? Pope Resources, Mr. Cunningham advised, can place a restrictive
covenant on the deed which would prohibit the Homeowners Association from
removing the rip rap.
Ramp Harvey: Mr. Harvey requested that the County Commissioners undertake
without to much more delay, an inspection and analysis of every septic tank
around this lagoon and every septic tank on the South shore of Ludlow Bay.
Mr. Harvey noted that he has heard so much about water quality from the
people who live over there that it '.s high time that somebody takes the bull
by the horns and finds out who is polluting the Bay. Every septic system
should be analyzed and inspected and I'm sure you will find many that are
doing what they are designed to do and are not polluting the Bay. I'm also
sure that you are very likely to find some that are very much polluting the
Bay and the lagoon that Mrs. Hamilton is so concerned about.
Chairman B. G. Brown responded that this is a subject that the County will
have to tackle in the future.
Ann Quantock: In 1985 the Protect Ludlow Bay Committee did ask the County
Health Department to review septic tanks along Ludlow Bay Road and pointed
out some specific instances that were thought to be possible problems. Randy
Durant did make an inspection along there and did shut down one well and that
was it. She then asked Dr. Harper about the increased nitrogen levels in the
Bay from the sewage treatment plant and Ludlow Creek. Dr. Harper stated that
an increase of 23% in nitrogen was indicated in the draft water quality study
done for the sewage treatment plant. That level was not quoted in the final
study. In the summertime the storm water runoff increases in nitrogen would
be much lower than the figures given. In the winter, nitrogen will increase
by 13% in the worst case.
Commissioner George Brown moved to added the three mitigative measures as
presented and recommended by the Planning Department. Chairman B. G. Brown
seconded the motion. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
3EFFERSON COUNTY
BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
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B.G. Brown, Chairman
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Larry .. ennison, Member
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George C. rown, Member
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