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HomeMy WebLinkAboutM020287 ~. " District No. 1 Commissioner: District No. 2 Commissioner: District No. 3 Commissioner: LarryW. Dennison, B.G. Brown, Member George C. Brown, Member 1 , , Chairman' , , 1 , , , - ~ ~ ~ - - - .. - ~.,. - .. - - -, _I -, -, l1li1 -I &, -, -, -, ~, !Iii' JEFFERSON COUlfTY BOARD 01' COMMISSIOlfERS Clerk of the Board: Public Works Director: 3erdine C.Bragg Gary A. Rowe MINUTES Week of February 2, 1987 Chairman Larry W. Dennison called the meeting to order in the presence of Commissioner George C. Brown and Commissioner B.G. Brown. Glen Bellerud. Chairman. 3efferson County Centennial Committee re: Awards for the County Flaa Desian contest: Chairman Dennison introduced and congratulated Peter Allen, first and second prize winner and Marjorie Illman, runner up prize .winner of the County Flag Design Contest. Marjorie Illman was presented a check for $35.00 and Peter Allen was presented a check for $185.00. ADDlicatioDS for Assistance from the Soldiers I and Sailors' Relief Fund: Commissioner B.G. Brown moved to approve the following applications for assistance from the Soldiers' and Sailorsf Relief Fund: Michael Fecho $50.00; Kenneth Boyd $393.47; Charles 3ackson $100.00; Brinnon VFW #10706 $240.00 for hall rent; and Carl W. Mathis $50.00. Extension of Rearina re: Desianatina 3efferson County as a "Nuclear WeaDODS Pree Zone": Commissioner George Brown moved that the Hearing being February 2, 1987 be continued until Monday February 9, 1987 at 7:00 p.m. .at the Chimacum School Auditorium and that meeting be continued until Tuesday February 17, 1987 at 7:00p.m. in the Quilcene School Cafeteria. Commissioner B.G. Brown seconded the motion. Mary Gaboury. Auditor re: Personnel Matter: Executive Session: The Board then met with Auditor Mary Gaboury in Executive Session to discuss a personnel matter. BUS lOSS PROM COUNTY DBPARTMEIfTS PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AGREEMENT. Consultinare:Preliminary Enaineerina- Groundwater Monitorina at the 3efferson County Landfill: Sweet. Edwards and Associates: Public Works Director, Gary Rowe, reported that the Prosecuting Attorney reviewed this Agreement with Sweet Edwards and Associates and made one change that-the consultant has also agreed to and initialed. The total estimated contract price is $95,000.00. Discussion ensued regarding the work that Sweet, Edwards and Associa.tes of Kelso would be doing for the County. Commissioner B.G. Brown moved VOL 13 rAGE ~U 351 .....If.. ..~., L' 2:.7'}:~':""iC~ ;.. f-; '_i -~ "'t-.; , ,7; '.3J .: -. ,.~- i. ~':;~ ',,:~ '; . .;.;. " !.J.:~ .:~:, ~ ~ :1:":; ~'-, , ': r~l'ft, ','L II: 8;;L~ ft!l-:i' .f. j so". 1.: . ~'::}fi~~;-,O~~ --.. ~ ' ~ ' . , , "- :,. ~ . C ,'7: , c' :~,~ .J! -~ ~.r :") 'i "e: .fir!. 1 .. 1:.: ~.<'" .v- l':'ll r:~ r- j ,~-1 ~., :; ff! ~ ~~ :;;i ._. ,. -.- F !l... ;'j' : 4"; ,::,: ':. ", '... . ~-~ ..,:.::, ; " .'~ ._~ '.- .-.... CJ(-:~' /T'('i. " ~V:~ .j ~'~1- ';:).i "::-c .~ :::~ ~;.:,"l . t Ji':f.i.;, ,'-', ',~ t ~-'~\: _: ~.~ ,','/1 ~4 "; .r :;, \:~ rlei!~ 2(11.;_- ,-~' :-.C'; ....;., '~~ .::.-: -(_C C' '.;-; ~,~. .,,'.~ ".;,..J': i,: ~;,' '. r ~,: :. I . ,'; ~ -~'" ~.;.,;,_...- _J J. ~ .- ~.:: Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of February 2, 1987 Page: 2 Public Works Business - Continued: to approve and sign the Agreement with Sweet, Edwards and Associates. as changed by the Prosecuting Attorney. Commissioner George Brown seconded the motion. A representative of Sweet, Edwards & Associates will make a presentation to the Board regarding their work on February 19, 1986 at 2:00 p.m. Bid Call re: One (1) Late Model. 8 to 10 Yard Dump Truck and for One (1) Cab and Chassis for an 8 to 10 yard Dump Truck: The call for bids for the following items was approveqand the bid opening date set for February 23, 1987 at 2:00 p.m. by motion of Commissioner B.G. Brown, seconded by Commissioner George Brown: One (1) Late model 8 to 10 cubic yard dump truck One (1) new cab and chassis for an 8 to 10 cubic yard dump truck. CONTRACT re: Provide Heatina Fuel for the Chimacum and Ouilcene Schools: Oil Heat of Port Anaeles: The contract for providing heating fuel for the Chimacum and Quilcene Schools was approved, as awarded on 3anuary 20, 1987, by motion of Commissioner B.G. Brown, seconded by Commissioner George Brown. CONTRACT re: Provide Propane for the County for 1987; Buckeye Gas Products Co.. Port Anaeles: The contract for providing propane to the County during 1987 was approved, as awarded on 3anuary 5, 1987, by motion of Commissioner B.G. Brown, seconded by Commissioner George Brown. CONTRACT re: Provide Unleaded and Reaular Gasoline to various County Aaencies and Diesel to the Transit for 1987; Harper Oil Company of Port Townsend: Commissioner B~G. Brown moved to approve and sign the contract with Harper Oil Company of Port Townsend to provide Unleaded and Regular Gasoline for various County agencies and Diesel Fuel to 3efferson Transit for 1987 as awarded on 3anuary 5, 1987. Commissioner George Brown seconded the motion. CONTRACT re: Provide I'uel for the Clearwater Shop; West Wholesale. Forks: Commissioner B.G. Brown moved to approve the contract with West Wholesale of Forks to provide fuel for the Clearwater Shop, as awarded on 3anuary5, 1987. Commissioner George Brown seconded the motion. Purchase of Photocopy Machines for the Cooperative Extension Office: Commissioner B.G. Brown moved to approve the purchase of a Sharp SF8620 Copy Machine for $3,160.00 for the Cooperative Extension Office after the quotes are posted and the three day posting period has expired. Commissioner George Brown seconded the motion. AGREEMENT re: Rodaers Street. Bridae Removal: Washinaton State Department of Transportation: After reviewing the Agreement with the State Department of Transportation for the Rodgers .Street Bridge Removal Project, Commissioner B.G. Brown moved to approve it as submitted. Commissioner George Brown seconded the motion. The Chairman also signed the Statement that no utility relocation or adjustments are required for the project. Purchase Reauisitions: Gary Rowe presented three purchase requisitions for the Board's consideration: A One (1) ton truek for Public Works signing activities. Public Works Business (Continued): VOl 13 fAGE or .0 352 Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of February 2, 1987 Page: 3 An S10 Pick up to being used for inspection and engineering activities. A Light Utility Vehicle - to be used by Road Maintenance Supervisor Commissioner B.G. Brown moved to delay action on these requisitions until a later date. Commissioner George Brown seconded the motion. PLANNING DBPARTMENT Declaration of Sianificance: Seattle Yacht Club: Associate Planner, Bob Duffy reported that a letter was received from Reid, Middleton & Associates, Inc. who represent the Seattle Yacht Club regarding a proposed outstation on Port Ludlow Bay. The Seattle Yacht Club has agreed to prepare an Environmental Impact Statement. Before that process can begin the Board needs to issue an Determination of Significance and request for comments on scoping the EIS. Herb Carpenter of Reid, Middleton & Associates, Inc. was present to answer the Board's questions. The Yacht Club's application will be submitted after the EIS process has begun so that it can reflect the information provided by that process in an effort to minimize the environmental impacts anticipated by the project. Commissioner B.G. Brown asked how it can be determined that a project will have any environmental impact if an application outlining the project has not be submitted? Planning Director David Goldsmith explained that the letter of intent received from Reid, Middleton << Associates, Inc. outlines the proposed project and includes a proposed site plan for the development. Mr. Carpenter stated that this project had been reviewed previously and a Determination of Significance was issued, after which the application was withdrawn. The project that will now be presented is essentially the same, possibly a little larger, which leads to the conclusion that an Environmental Impact Statement will be required for it as well. The scoping process is an opportunity to discuss the project before the application is made, so that the Yacht Club can get input from the neighbors as well as State and local agencies regarding the proposal, in an effort to know and make the necessary compromises before the application is submitted. The objective of this request by the Yacht Club is to be as open about this project as possible so that the application can include elements that will have the best chance of being approved. Chairman Dennison reminded Mr. Carpenter even though this process is the reverse of the usual method, there is still the possibility that the project that is developed could be rejected. Commissioner B.G. Brown moved to issue a Determination of Significance and Request for Comments on Scope of an.EIS for the Seattle Yacht Club for a small scale moorage facility known as an "outstation" on the southern shore of Port Ludlow Bay. Commissioner George Brown seconded the motion. Kala SQ'uare Buildina Permit: This planned unit development on Rhody Drive at Prospect Avenue was previously approved by the Board, David Goldsmith, Planning Director, reported. The building permit has been held, hOWever, for two reasons: 1) Issuance of the sewage disposal permit and 2) Approval of a public water supply. The sewage disposal permit has now been approved and issued, but the water supply, which must be public, still has to be developed. The water supply engineering plans and specifications have been submitted into the State DSHS for review, which is anticipated will take another month. The project proponents would like the bUilding permit to be issued so. that they can start work with the understanding that the building can not be occupied until the water system is approved and developed. Planning Business (Continued): 'JOt 13 f~GE,"~ 0353 " Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week o.f February 2, 1987 Page: 4 The Planning Department recommends and Commissioner B.G. Brown moved that the building permit be issued with a condition and written agreement that the Certificate of Occupancy for the building will not be issued until the public water supply system is complete and approved and the sewage disposal system is installed and approved. Commissioner George Brown seconded the motion. Water Quality Grants: A notice was received, David Goldsmith reported, that the Department of Ecology has grant money available to counties from the Clean Water Act. These fund can be used for continuation of existing projects. This funding requires a 50% match from the County. 3anet Welch and Bill Banks have developed and suggested three projects that could use these funds: 1) Lease the tidelands at Donovan Creek for a five year period to prove that this wetland is a major contributor to the pollution loading in Quilcene Bay, 2) Continue on with the sanitation repair and education program, and 3) A feasibility study on developing a community drainfield for the residences in QUilcene near the Rodgers Street Bridge. Chairman Dennison directed the Planning Department to advise the State that it is the consensus of the Board that it is in the best interest of the County and the State to continue the Quilcene Bay Project (sanitation repair and education program). Request for Leave of Absence: Penny Henderson: Commissioner B.G. Brown moved to approve the Leave of Absence as requested by Penny Henderson and approved by Planning Director David Goldsmith. Commissioner George Brown seconded the motion. HEALTH DEPARTMENT CONTRACT re: Professional Services; Laurinda Lanza: Commissioner B.G. Brown moved to approve the contract for professional nursing services with Laurinda Lanza. Commissioner George Brown seconded the motion. HOMAN SERVICES CONTRACT #87-10-01 re: Personal Services; Mental Health Counsellor; Robert Richardson: The personal service contract for Robert Richardson to provide mental health counselling services for the Human Services Department was approved by motion of Commissioner B.G. Brown. seconded by Commissioner George Brown. SHERIFF AGREEMENT re: Maintenance: 911 Equipment: A.T.& T.: The maintenance agreement for the 911 equipment at the 3ail with A.T. & T. was approved by motion of Commissioner B.G.Brown, seconded by Commissioner George Brown. * * * 3efferson County Historical Society Request for First Quarter Allocation of Hotel/Motel Tax Fund: Commissioner B.G. Brown moved to approve the payment of the first quarter allocation of Hotel/Motel Tax Funds to the 3efferson County Historical Society as requested. Commissioner George Brown seconded the motion. IJOl 13 rA~ ~ ~0354 . . Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of February 2, 1987 Page: 5 Appointment to. the Brinnon Senior Center Governing Board: Commissioner B.G. Brown moved to appoint Bob Clark to an unexpired term on the Brinnon Senior Center Governing Board. Commissioner George Brown seconded the motion. Mr. Clark will fill the unexpired term of Isabel Armstrong which will expire on April 15, 1988. The meeting was recessed until 7:00 p.m. after the Board discussed mapping with Assessor .lack Westerman and Planning Director David Goldsmith. The meeting reconvened with all Board members in attendance. . HEARING re: Proposed Resolution'Designating 3efferson'Countv as a "Nuclear WeapOns Free Zone". Approximately 100 interested area residents were present to hear the testimony presented to the Board regarding the proposed Resolution to designate 3efferson County as a "Nuclear Weapons Free Zone". Chairman Dennison introduced the Board members to those present and thanked them for attending the hearing. He then explained that the purpose of this hearing is to take public comment on the,proposed resolution. The issue, the Chairman continued, as it. relates to Indian Island or any place is 3efferson County is with respect to the storage, transportation and keeping of nuclear weapons. The issue is not whether there will be an expansion project for Indian Island. The principle reason for passage of this resolution is to make a statement to the areas Congressional representatives and the other members of Congress about the County's feelings regarding nuclear weapons storage here. The bottom line issue is, the Chairman stated, do you, as an individual, want nuclear weapons stored in 3efferson County? The Chairman then read the proposed resolution. Chairman Dennison then announced that the Board, in their morning meeting, voted to extend this hearing for two more weeks so that testimony can be taken in Chimacum (Monday February 9, 1987 at 7:00 p.m., Chimacum School Auditorium) and Quilcene (Tuesday February 17, 1987 at 7:00 p.m., QUilcene School Cafeteria). The Resolution will be voted on by the Board during their normal Board meeting the week of February 23, 1987. The Chairman then opened the hearing and called on the first speaker (The following is a sYnopsis of the comments made by each speaker): Douwe Rienstra: (In favor) Mr. Rienstra stated that he is a General Practitioner and belongs to a group called Physicians for Social Responsibility. liThe destruction in nuclear weapons is incredible. When you talk nuclear weapons you can only talk prevention, you can1t talk cure or treatment. We have enough problems here in terms of unemployment, drug abuse, lack of opportunity, and violence among people. We're foolish if we feel that the problems we have including the Ruskies can be solved in Washington D.C., they can1t.1f Rebecca Bloom:. (Opposed) Ms. Bloom stated that she has lived through every war including 1917 and 1918 and she admires the way our armed forces have taken care of us and she would like to see it continue. IIIf we don't have enough (weapons) to protect puget Sound they will get through. There are Russian nuclear submarines off the coast out here and we need Whidbey Island and any kind of defense that the u.S. Government wants to put out here to defend us. Those aren't put here to do any damage to the area, they are here so that the armed forces will have something to fight with and we will never have another Viet Nam." 3im Worthinaton: (In favor) Mr. Worthington stated his support for the Resolution. "Nuclear weapons are dangerous to local populations even when they are simply being handled or maintained. The risk to populations should be minimized and the expansion proposed for Indian Island does not appear to be in that spirit.1I VOL 13 fAGE (:n 355 " Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of February 2, 1987 Page: 6 Chuck Russell: (Opposed) "Nuclear weapon proliferation, nuclear disarmament and world peace were all stated as the reasons behind this resolution by the Committee for a Nuclear Free 3efferson County," Mr. Russell stated. "These are real issues and there is more to this resolution than what is on the face of it. These issues are not within the scope of County government. These gentleman are elected to administer County government which is a very large, complex business" and Mr. Russell stated "they should get on with it." Dee DuMont: (In favor) (See written statement). .lames W. Davis: (Opposed) Mr. Davis said that his concern is and will remain our national defense. "The oath of citizenship requires that: 1) You are required toserV'e in the Armed Forces in time of need, and 2) You will defend it from all enemies within and without. This is the basis for citizenship in the Uni.ted States. The reason for the number of weapons there are, is the balance of power, which is the only thing that deters war. You can not ignore the fact that the Russians are not going to get rid of theirs (nuclear weapons) until we have the necessary treaty which will insure absolute, one on one, destruction of nuclear missiles. The fear of nuclear weapons has been played upon totally by our press, particularly locally. They have not done anything but support the so called activist of Port Townsend." Mr. Davis asked that this be put on a referendum vote. Andv Thurston: (In favor) "Storage of nuclear weapons in this area is incompatible with the nature of the area," Mr. Thurston stated, "and incompatible. with the quality of economic development that we have potential for here. Port Townsend and 3effersonCounty is a special place for recreation for many people. Our economic growth in the future here is dependent upon the quality of the image that is projected out into the economic strata of the State and the tourist industry. Two bottom line economic questions are: 1) On the local level, are we willing to trade short term economic gains, and they are questionable gains, for our real wealth, which i.s the quality of character that we have here in Port Townsend and 2) On the global level, if we can risk nuclear war, we can certainly risk a negotiated mutual disarmament." 30hn Reel): (Opposed) "A federal military reservation is being discussed which in itself is not a part of 3efferson County. The local County and State governments have to be especially invited by the federal government to exercise their authority on any violation occurring on this reservation. Ingress and egress to this military reservation must be granted at all times through the federal authorities and their agents. It appears moot to discuss this matter at this time." Mr. Reep as~ed if it is proper for 3efferson County to be a pacifist dominated stronghold in order to get our elected officials attention in Congress? "If you (the County Commissioners) desire to be lobbyists, resign and register as a lobbyist. Don't continue to draw a salary as a 3efferson County Commissioner." Mr. Reep concluded by asking the Board to terminate this proposal at their earliest convenience. 30hn Ramont: (In favor) (See written statement). Charles O'Connor: (Opposed) Mr. O'Connor stated that he does not understand Commissioner Dennison's thinking when he says that this resolution has nothing to do with Indian Island. "You are probably premature to be even discussing this at this point. I am opposed to the resolution, which doesn't mean .I am for or against nuclear weapons, because I think. its' inappropriate. I question whether or not a resolution or an ordinance or a referendum has any legal meaning other than an opportunity for the citizens of this community to make a politicCll statement. I'm speaking solely in terms of the irrelevancy of solving this with a res.olution." ~VOl '1'3 LaN'!!': --0' . . . rM''-~,. 356 Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of February 2, 1987 Page: 7 Tom .lay: (In favor) "I'm against storage of nuclear weapons on Indian Island because I think it will wreck our economy. If you look at the money earned here that's derived from local resources such as logging, fishing or boat building, etc. it is from community making industries. They provides jobs which bind us all together. On the. contrary government money comes in and its' kind of like a solvent. We become a part of a military welfare economy, and that's a big danger if we allow nuclear weapons to come into our economy. We should keep our economy a local, basically a resource based economy becausethatfs th.e hope for the long term. We should reject the storage of weapons on Indian Island, if for no other reason, than we are proud and we don't want them here because we are self sufficient." Ray Ros:rers: (Opposed) In the resolution it says "other peaceful uses" and the whole idea of nuclear weapons, Mr. Rogers stated, is to maintain a peaceful world. liThe news media has picked up this story and has built it into an issue. Fear beyond reason. We're all afraid of nuclear power. When you're fearful you either run or you fight. We can disenfranchise the power of nuclear weapons. We need to put the genie back in the bottle and this can be done if we keep an open mind and hold our theories back until the government has time to advance its' program.1I Denise Fradin: (In favor) IIIn a recent movie it was brought out that FDA would not insure any of the homes near (three to twelve miles away) the Rock Flats facility in Colora.do because of the levels of plutonium leaking out from the plant.1I The school teacher in her child's class, Ms. Fradin reported, took a vote on the proposed resolution and 39 children voted in favor of the resolution, and five children voted against it. Ms. Fradin stated IIwe should listen to our children." Al Boucher: (Opposed) See written statement. Mr. Boucher asked why nothing w~s said about time limits for speakers in the advertisement for the meeting? After discussion of this point, Mr. Boucher decided to read as much of his written statement as possible in the time allotted. Ben Shaine: (In favor) Mr. Shaine addressed the following: 1) IIResolution itself: The resolution is reasonable, locally compelling and intellectually honest. It is particularly, politically effective. II 2) liThe dangers associated with nuclear weapons in the County: With regard to safety - we have learned from various accidents in our history, such as t:he Challenger incident, that we can't trust technology. The dangers are too great and the local impacts are too great for us to consider nuclear weapons storage within the County unless we feel there is no alternative" . 3) "Economic point: Mr. Shaine stated that his job is not locally bound which is true.. of quite a few people in this County and will be increasingly true in the future. He is here largely because of the quality of life and quality of the environment here. Why is it that the Navy would consider it incompatible to have nuclear weapons in population centers down the sound but acceptable up here in Jefferson County?" Lvle Tinker: (Opposed) Mr. Tinker stated that he choose to live in 3efferson County. He is against nuclear weapons and would like to see a unilateral reduction program, because a number of countries have nuclear weapons beside Russia. "This resolution is a little too late because in the waters of Jefferson County right now you have nuclear submarines loaded with nuclear weapons that are doing maneuvers." Mr. Tinker thinks the resolution is a little late and he urged the Commissioners Brown to vote no. Todd Oestreich: (In favor) Mr. Oestreich stated that he finds it distressing that this issue has polarized people in this V!'L 13 r~r,~ ~ il' 357 . , Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of February 2, 1987 Page: 8 community. He would like to see this come to a vote of the people. Bob Sokol: (Opposed) "There are so many issues. here that are not all delineated. II He as.ked how many people had actually seen a nuclear weapon? (A few people raised their hands). "I've spent a lot of time transporting nuclear weapons in the military. There are a lot of things that are called nuclear incidents such as: A caster that needed to be replaced, a ~rayed cable that needed to be replaced and a lightening strike on an airplane that had nuclear weapons on board. These were all called nuclear i.ncidents and didn't have anything to do with the nuclear part of the weapon. Nuclear spills are from nuclear reactors that have. an on-going nuclear reaction. With a nuclear weapon pains are taken to be sure that you don't have one. . The physics of the weapon itself when it's in storage is such that it can't explode." FrankD'Amore: (In. favor) Mr. D'Amore thanked the Board for having this hearing. "It has been his experience in this area that both the City Council and the County Commissioners have used a resolution like this as a statement. From my point of view as someone who has been acutely interested.in maintaining one of our most valuable resources, the marine environment in this county, I hope that the Board has the same feeling and that they recognize the economic value of the marine environment. The Navy has a history of serious problems with their landfill on the north end of Indian Island. The effect of the increased activity on the base is something that is really worth looking into with respect to its impact on the environment." Bill Bennett: (Opposed) uIndian Island has been there since 1939. Nuclear bombs are not going to go off because they need a detonator. Indian Island has been there all this time and all of a sudden, with the suggestion of Mr. Dennison here, hate and discontent has been created among the citizens of the County. Why do you want to do this Mr. Dennison? You people should be helping the Navy not hindering them. '.L'hey're for our country. This meeting shouldn't have been called tonight. What you really should do is solicit the silent majority and inform them of what's really going on and what's happened in the past.1I Frederick 1) 2) 3) Tuso:(In Favor) Mr. Tuso stated three points: IIMost everything I was going to say has already been said. II IIThere has been discussion about this resolution dealing with the water - that's State and Federal water. Our ordinance has nothing to do with submarines in Brinnon. None of the submarines that are in the locks, in Trident, ever carry live warheads. II flI personally worked in radiation - there is no such thing as a safe weapon, anywhere. This resolution is important to the children. the future and the economics of this county.1I Duane Davis: (In Favor) Mr. Davis stated that he wanted to reassure the Board that "there are people here who really feel that you are doing your job by being here and I commend them for being here and a part of this process. Nuclear policy has developed in a vacuum of silence over the years and its' very important that people make their feelings known. It starts here at the local level and its' not out of the question to say that its not within our power to speak our piece about it and let our representatives know how we feel.1I Bvron Swiaart:. (Neutral) IIAll sides of the issue have been pretty well covered. II Garv Novak: (In favor) UEvery home owners insurance policy in the United States has a nuclear exclusion.1I Mr. Novak then read from the City of Port Townsend Insurance policy regarding nuclear exclusion. IIBig business, the insurance industry, the capital VOL lu~ tA(:ri!. - '0" '3~C r.. ,.~ ~.' dO '. Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Week of February 2, 1987 Page: 9 system. itself does not trust the storage and handling of nuclear weapons. If they don't trust it, I don't trust it." Lee Lewis: (In favor) As the mother of six and grandmother of seven, Mrs. Lewis recommended t.o the Council to consider an issue of perception. "This County's economy is resource based. The perception of a threat to that resource, will limit people who might improve the economic situation by building processing plants or harvesting the materials that will make a job that will keep your kids at home. They will notwsnt to come, because they have to sell their stuff to other people who perceive contamination as a real threat. You need to protect this County's economic base from the perception that this area is contaminated." Michele D. Lewis: (In Favor) Mrs. Lewis stated liMy son Christopher. twelve years old, came home from school today talking about the issue before us. Both sides were presented to him and his class. It was his conclusion that if a bomb from Russia was fired, he would rather be close to a base fired upon. His reason being that he would no longer exist. No $uffering involved. It saddens my heart deeply that my son has to live in that kind of a reality. I say no nuclear weapons here or anywhere. We are one world and I pray, one united people." Nancv Milholland: (In Favor) "There is so much secrecy involved .in the nuclear industry and so much ignorance.1I Mrs. Milholland read from an article from the Philadelphia Inquirer regarding the storage of nuclear waste. "By passing this resolution we can take responsibility and say we're not going to accept nuclear weapons which generate this waste. We must, as people, deal with this problem and the problems created by creating nuclear weapons.1I Rick Dennison: (In Favor) "This meeting is democracy. If we relegate our freedom to speak to Washington D.C., we lose those freedoms, because this is where it starts. As far as the economy goes, the military does not hire people off the streets to work at maximum security operations. If there is an explosion, whether it's a nuclear explosion or not, it's going to be on the ground and it will cause a lot more devastation on the ground than it's going to cause in the air. If it costs this County more economically to have those people here than they put back in, we loose. Indian Island as a nuclear storage facility is not going to be the Indian Island that is there today. It may have been here since 1932, but it's going to be different -- because that is maximum security. The first nuclear explosion is the last one, because we won't be here. The silent majority is a myth. If a majority is silent then nobody talks for them, because how do you know what they say if they're silent?" Doua Milholland: (In favor) "As a nation, it isa critical matter that the people speak, in terms of nuclear weapons, whether we want our County as.whole to continue to develop more and more of these weapons, continue to have to find places to store them, etc. I'm tired of living in a nuclear age where every time I turn around I'm wondering when is it going to happen. I don't feel defended by nuclear weapons any more. I don't feel like the people in Washington D.C. are looking out for my interest when. they decide to do things like scrape the SALT II Treaty and produce more nuclear bombs. Asking our Commissioners to go on record in opposition to another base, and having more places to store more weapons, ean make a difference, because right now there is a balance of power going on in Washington D.C.. The people have to speak if we're going to have a future." Bob DeWeese: (In Favor) (See written statement) Edna Anderson: (In Favor) Vice President and Conservation Chairman, Admiralty Audubon Society. "The thing that bothers us (The Society) is the way an accident might be handled." She is in \lOL 13 rAG~ 1~:0 359 . . Commissionersf Meeting Minutes: Week of February 2, 1987 Page: 10 favor of the resolution, personally and speaking as Vice Chairman of the Audobon Society. Dianne Thompson: (In Favor) "Even though some people have stated that it would be hard to have a nuclear accident, accidents can happen. I can't help but believe that there cannot be an accident over there. We have to make some priorities here some time. I also can't believe that if we write a resolution more properly that. the Navy, will open their hearts to us a bit more. If this doesn't do it, it's not going to get done'." Kathrink 3enks: (In Favor) Ms. 3enks thanked all of the people who collected all of the signatures on the petitions. "2,400 people in this County is a very large number of people and I think that does express the view of the majority, or at least a plurality. To that end, it might be a good idea to preclude any kind of opposition, if we put it on some sort of referendum basis so the whole county could have their say." Sheila Moir: (In Favor) "I'm scared. I'm tired of' looking at newspapers and wondering what I can eat because of things like the Chernobyl disaster. And, I do not want to look at Indian Island and wonder whether something is going to go up over there." 30hn Mar: (In Favor) Mr. Mar stated that he is a seasonal fisherman who lives in Sitka Alaska. I first started to come to Port Townsend in 1979 and like the area, but if I am going to keep coming back here will be determined by the action taken by the County on this resolution." Larry Lawson: (In Favor) Mr. Lawson stated that he would like to see this resolution be stronger. He would like to see it become an ordinance which would give the' County legal hold. "This issue appears to have two facets: 1) Nuclear issue: Even the people who are in favor of the balance of power being maintained through nuclear weapons are against the deploYment of those weapons, and 2) The federal governmentfs response to the will of the people: it appears that the majority of the people in the County will be in opposition to the federal government's agent in this County, the Navy, who wants to expand here. It's going to be very costly to oppose the Navy. Is it possible to make this a referendum?" (The Chairman advised that he does not have an answer to this question or the question of the County passing an ordinance). Mr. Lawson added that he would like to have the Commissioners consider what options will give the citizens of this County the most advantage judicially, if they're ignored politically. Bob McGuinness: (In Favor) "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in a final sense the theft from those who hunger and are not fed. Those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone, its spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of scientists, the house of its children. This is not a way of life. Under a cloud of war it is humanity handing ,itself on a cross of iron." "This is a quote from Dwight David Eise:lJ,hower, former President and a five star General." "I'm sick and tired of the arms race,"Mr. McGuinness stated. "The arms race can only be stopped by the United States. If Congress can't stop it, its up to State and local governments to make a statement." Steve 30hnson: (In Favor) "The oY$;ter.producing potential of puget Sound and Hood Canal is immense. It's like something that hasn't e~enbegun to be realized yet. How would transportation of nuclear weapons be accomplished if they are to be stored at Indian Island? We should start thinking about having a nuclear free planet by the year 2000. It's a goal that could be considered in a future resolution." Ann Forest: (In Favor) lilt's obvious that nuclear weapons are not any form of protection at all from anything. They are totally VOL 13 r~r,~ : ~. 0 360 . .'" Commissioners' Meeting Minutes: Wee~ of February 2, 1987 Page: 11 hazardous and lethal and they can kill us all and the planet that we live. If we as a people say do not protect us, perhaps we'll spend our time and energy learning how to resolve our differences with other people by talking together. We have to exist together and let's do it ina nice way. not this way.1I Susan Secott: (In Favor) "Being citizens and taxpayers, we either have to help to build weapons or we have to break the law, and this doesn't give me any choic~ as a person. This meeting is a chance to express our opinion. I would be proud to be part of a County and a town that tOOk th~ time and energy to send a real clear message. I would like to see a vote too." Lisa Inman: (In Favor) Many good things have been said and she urged the Commissioners to support this resolution. lilt is very valid that the Commissioners consider a resolution which is, in effect, a political statement. Ifm proud that it's being considered and would like the message to go farther than Port Townsend. Many of us have created jobs in this town in important, community ,oriented ways that support the community ,and I think therefs lots of ways that jobs can be made here." Wayne Blier: (In Favor) "I'm one of the .few people in this town who has benefited from the Indian Island build up, I work at the Counselling Center. Over the years studies have been done that as~ed teenagers if they think they'll live to be old and they say fNo' they'll all be killed in a nuclear war. There's a lot of talk about drugs. Drug use comes from a feeling powerlessness and rigid family assistance too.' The best thing we could do for adolescent drug abuse is stop nuclear war, stop nuclear buildup." Michael List: (In Favor) One of the things that Mr. List stated he has been thinking about lately is what could be done with $60 million. liThe Navy can drop $60 million on weapons storage and we can not as a community spend a little money on literacy and recreation. The two aren't correlated in that respect, but it is such a contradiction that the government is willing to spend sO much money on annihilation and destruction of life and so little on the resources of human endeavor. II Bruce Marsten: (In Favor) Mr. Marsten said that he came here from Baltimore Maryland because this community reminded him of where he grew up. liThe. area we have in Port Townsend is quite unique. Nuclear buildup is going to create jobs here but it also will destroy what we have. There are several other issues on the OlYmPic Peninsula in addition to this one - what is going to happen to our National Forest and the Golf Course? We have to get together as a community and safeguard every flower, and every tree. II Chairman Dennison thanked everyone for coming to the hearing and invited them to attend the.hearing~n Chimacum next week. A decision will not be made on this resolution until after the meeting in Quilcene. J .\. a"'- '# < .. .~ ,\ :~~:~ . ~ - --::--. .~ ~.~-: -- , .., .~jr ~ . ;;<. ." 'I!I .:; . -.." IJOl . ~. - 13 f'M;~~: = 0361