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Home My WebLink AboutM021985 s .:;:'} -~I".:.lI:U.'l_J:tIlWJl)IID1I:""~')~."lInlll8f"J~'B.""'J~~f8;'~" District No. 1 Commissioner: District No. 2 Commissioner: District No. 3 Commissioner: Clerk of the Board: Public Works Director: Larry W. Dennison, Member B.G. Brown, Member John L. Pitts, Chairman Jerdine C. Bragg Brian L. Shelton ! MjE' IS! U ']},:ffil S Week of February 19, 1985 The meeting was called to order at 10:12 a.m. by Chairman John L~ Pitts. Commissioner B.G. Brown and Commissioner Larry W. Denni- son were both present. Proposed Moratorium on the Aerial Application of Herbicides in Eastern Jefferson County: 39 interest County residents were present in the Commissioner's Chambers when Chairman Pitts introduced the first item of business on the agenda. Chairman Pitts: The first order of business on our agenda this morning is the Proposed Moratorium on the Aerial Application of Herbicides in Eastern Jefferson County. We received a petition last summer, some 1,350 signatures in regards to an Ordinance which provides for a five year moratorium on the aerial application of herbicides in Eastern Jefferson County and in consulting our Prosecuting Attorney, the Prose- cutor gave us a decision that our charge in dealing with this question could be made on the basis of a public health issue. We set up a series of public meetings to discuss the pros and cons of this and Mr. Tom, Jay and Mr. Ken Hillman were appointed to be the representatives of the: two positions and to provide for us, information that they felt was imP9rtant, supporting a moratorium or denying a moratorium. Over that period of time we have received volumes of written information plus several hours of oral presentation made by presenters on bqth sides. Right now I'd like to compliment both Tom and Ken for the work that; they've done in preparing the information and the people that they have contacted and brought here. I'd also like to thank the public for their very con- scientious effort in making this a, this emotional issue a very non-emotion- al issue and trying to look at the information that has been made avail- able in an objective manner. I feel that first we must address this petition, that has b~en given to us, and I would like to have a motion in regards to an Ordinance which pro- vides for a 5 year moratorium on the aerial application of all herbicides in EasternJefferson County. I would like to know what your pleasure is in regard to this. I Commissioner Brown: Well, I guess that I feel that the petition that was presented to us is not in the form that we'would be able to adopt as an Ordinance anyway. We would have to de elop the wording and go through the ordinance adoption procedure if, in fact, that was our, wishes. So, as far as dealing with the moratorium, or the petition that was submitted to us with the signatures, I would move that we deny the petition to declare a moratorium as written. Commissioner Dennison: I second that. Chairman Pitts: It's been moved and seconde that the ordinance, or the petition that was submitted to us in regards to aerial application pf all herbicides in Eastern Jefferson County was not an appropriate, ~xcuse me, that the petition not .be dealt with as a ordinance and therefore should not be used as the basis of any ordin nce as far as aerial spraying. All in favor of that motion say aye. Commisisoner Dennison and Brown: Aye. VOl i1 fhGE fJ:'~570 I Minutes, Week of February 19, 1985 Page 2: Chairman Pitts: Let the record show th to not deal with this petition as it ap Jefferson County. was three votes to zero to all herbicides in Eastern Commissioner Dennison: Mr. Chairman I ould like to make a statement it I might,on this particular issue tha will lead to a motion that I would like to make? And what I will do is read a written statement that I have made and I would assume that we can have some discussion after I have finished. Chairman Pitts: Go right ahead. Commissioner Dennison: We may exercise our legal authority to regulate the use ot herbicides in this county only if we find a reasonable doubt as to their safety. We are not charged with proving either safety or hazard -- only whether it is reasonable to doubt their safety. No one will deny that certain people have greater sensitivities to parti- cular chemical substances, including herbicides. We can safely assume some peoplets sensitivity to exposure can be a health risk. Certainly there is no evidence to the contrary. There is general agreement that there may be adverse affects resulting from the synergistic reaction of chemicals in herbicides with certain drugs in certain individuals. It is only reasonable to assume the chem- ical intrusion is responsible for that reaction, since it is both invol- untary and un-prescribed as is the case with medication. There is no conclusive evidence currently available that proves herbicides are safe. Without proof of safety there is reason to doubt safety. EPA is currently requiring new tests and data protocols for re-register- ing hundreds of pesticides including 2,4-D. That information is not yet available and without it we cannot reasonably assume the herbicides being tested are safe. We've heard a great deal of testimony from a great many qualified and credentialed witnesses on both sides of this issue, unfortunately for the lay person these experts did not agree. This gives reason to doubt the safety of the chemicals. Even if you choose to believe neither side. Only if you believe Dr. Dost and the spray proponents does it relieve us of any doubt. Certainly holes can be found in both arguments. So what are we left with? I submit we are left with doubt. Statistical site studies, such as the Olympic Peninsula Spontaneous Abortion Study, and the Ashford Study on reproductive effects, do not prove anything but statistical relationships. They have no validity as cause and effect studies because they provide no actual testing of subjects. I feel we have no business imposing any level of health risk on the public regardless of the statistics. If we are going to ask people to bare such a risk we should indeed ask them. The Washington Supreme Co of pesticides specificall and persons engaged in it and damages which result Mr. Ghairman, if Dr. Shea Cour!t of Washington have I do! not think we would b Sinc~ the EPA re-registra Case! Analysis of herbicid I would move that we draf secuiting Attorney that wo appl~cation of herbicides stud~es will allow us to the aerial spraying of he rt apparently adopted the rule that spraying including 2,4-D, is an extra hazardous activity are strictly liable for foreseeable injuries ithout regard to how careful they are. er and Riethel, as well as the EPA and Supreme eason to doubt the safety of these chemicals, unreasonable if we questioned their safety. ion tests and the U.S. Forest Service Worst s effects on humans is due within two years, an Ordinance at a later date with our Pro- ld impose a two year moratorium on the aerial in Jefferson County. After two years the new eassess the health related risks involved in bicides. VOL 11 rkG~ tr. ;-. __~, I~ , :_~ , ' Minutes, Week of February ~:,9, 19~5 Page 3: I , : Chairman Pitts: Do I have !a secpnd? Commissioner Brown: Well ~or tht purpose of diScussion".. I'll second the motion, and that's not Ito sa that I will vote in favor, but I'll second it for purpose of d~scuss'on. ! ChaiYman Pitts: Do you haJ.e a sr,atement you'd like to J..ake, in that regard, B.G.? In regard td this, the discussion of this motion? i ! ! ' I Commissioner Brown: I did~'t bother to write down any lengthy statement. But, I guess that my conclusions that I have been able to draw from the information that we've got~en fr mboth sides, is the e~perts, as Larry's pointed out, they don't agree. And, I think that one of the things that I learned f,rom one of the 8eoplel that, Dr. Reithel to be exact, pointed out was the fact that ~f yqu're$oing to have valid information and valid pape~s, that you have to have the strictest contrdl and also that has to be ~uPticated by a ~ersonlwho's a.qualified J?ersdn c;lso. I guess as I poured tl:1trough a large amount of th~s, and I w~ll adm~t that I did not look at every piece of !inforration that's been.presented to us in full depth,' bt:l.t I could not' find' anything that would lead me to the con- clusion that ~here are, thelre is sufficient evidence to Icreate a doubt in my mind ,that we are cre~ting health hazard with the 2,4-D if it's applied by the label and wijth qu lified people. I think that along the way I did lea'lfn that there iare c ses where that there hc~.ve been abuses and oversprays and these types 0 things that have happened, that I be- lieve that lif iwe can come tjO a b tter control of that in our area, that I would like tj:o see that. iBut,i' guess that I feel that from my personal viewpoint t.ha~ I don't fee~ that 1._ I have the evidence bef,ore me t.hat I could point my finger to that I feel is conclusive and strong enough to substantia~e a position Ito declare the moratoriu , for any length of time. i I : I fO make another sta ement Larry? Are , , , , Chairman Pi,tts: Would you 11ike you, would yot;l like to... ' : ! i Commissioner ~ennison: No, II' II : ! ait. , Chairman Piitta: O.K. In, ifirst of all I think tha what we have done here is we hate reviewed thie que tion of 2,4-D, not of herbicides in this meeting process that we hav dealt with. We h ve touched upon another herbiqide, Glyphosalte, which is also know a Roundup, asa trade name. And thctt in order tal address a, the question, what we have been given has been given the quiestioh of 2,4-D, and tha is 'what we have studied and tqat's what 95'% of t~e informa~ion that we hc;d has related to. There ha~ been a tremerdouslamount wr~tten and stud~es done on 2,4-D and 2:,4~5-T, which ha~e, uf until 1978 or 197 , I ,cannot recall, were used lin unison or mixed togfther as a defolian_. Certainly the question o,fi. 2~4,5-T and 2,31.,7,8-'CDD which is commo ly 'K.nown as Dioxin or the Diopc,in i. that is extre~ely oxic, and has been shOwn. to be carcino- genic, is ~' gl1'eat question.1 And~ I don't think the e's lanybody in this room that f:.ee1s that to re~ove t1f1at Dioxin was not he a.ppropriate thing to do. ,: I I " I ii' We have tol go Iback and loo~ at t~e work with 2,4-D nd the research that's been done alnd ithe best papelr tha was presented to s, was the paper and the authoJt sat here andl discissed it with us, ,b Dr.' Shearer. Going back and re.. .,.ad.il,ng Dr. Shearei,r's M tro Report again, fter I read it a year ago, and:then going a~d fin ing the new, the eferences that she made, I cahnoU find that thiere i a substantial or: th-r;eat used at the concentrati'on$ and the doselS tha . are being used and appx;oved by the labeling proc~dure,to human! heal h. Could not find this to be the case. There is qu'es~ions about whlether the information th t has been used or the informaticm that has belen lo ked at in the past:, is 'adequate. And whether we 'shquld are should not do more testing. cer;tainly feel that anything that :we're using ip our society, that we ~ e exposing ourselves to should constantly be under question of whether t is is or is not the appropriate: tlling to do. And, as the tests and apt> ratus and technology emerges that 4110ws us to plrobe more and more deepl , I 'think we should continue to'dd that. I do Iseparate these two, 2,4':'" and 2,4,5-T, and in separating them and loo~ing at the literature on 2,4~D, I do not find ; , Vllt · ,.~' .~~~ 57'S :!,m iri:;~ "~ .~~ , i .-". ;i)::' Minutes, ~eekiof February 19, 1985 Page 4: ' I Chairman Bitts, continued: that there is a significant qealth ri~k if this chem~caliis used in the prescribed method. Now, th~t seems to be the questi,.:on "that we've gotten to here. Is it being used in the prescribed method? We h~ve a State law and we supposedly have mechanisms b)f which ~e can regula~e and administer that State law. One of ~he mechanisms ~s the Depart~ent of Natural Resources. I feel that it',s important and not only i.mpoytant" but impe':t'ative that these laws as pt'escribed; as Larry hasstalj-ed, that people do not be oversprayed. Whether it's in- dividuals; or I whether it's some private individual's alder. They have the right notito have that imposed upon them. How do we get to a point where we c'an, I either eliminate or come as close as we possibly can to eliminating t~is kind of chemical trespass? ' I I I guess if you take the position that all things in whatever concentra- tions are badJ you're never going to get to a position of compromise. Or if you take the position that we have the right to dQ something and to hell wiith the public, since the law is that way, we're never going to get to a c~mpromise.Some people do not feel that there is a icom- promise that'~ appropriate in this particular situation and I respect that positionj As I see the information that has been given to me presently, ri~ht now, r feel that there are areas that ~e can, in fact, make adjustme~ts to what has been done in t+hepast and prove, and hope- fully mitigat~ what might be done in the future. I Certainly thi~ is not an easy decision, certainly when ] see these children sitting out h~re, and know that I have a child of my owri, there's always that questioniin anybody's mind, whatever we use and however we're deal- ing with our ~ociety. I think that we have to respect that. I think that we have to look to that, the informat+ion that I have been given, with the best I means that I have available to me, I cannot find, 4arry, that there is ja reasonable doubt and therefore I cannot support your motion. I would like to deal with that mot+ion right now and then after that motion d~scuss possibilities for strat+egies or ways to sit down with both sides of this issue and hopefully develop something that the citizens who Signed this petition, who are obviously coricerned, and the people who ar~ by law given the right to use this can wqrk with ~o make a situation better and hopefully educate both sides as to what is being done now and ~hat should be done if there are reasons for that to be done. Larry.! Commissioner ~ennison: Well, first of all I'd like to say that my motion does not ask for a ban of any herbicide. I simply wishjto regulate the method by which it is applied. And, I think that that leads to the assump- tion that thejherbiGides are applied as pet' the law and ,according to their labels. I And, I don't think that we can say that ~f we forego the only option 4hat we have available to us to be involved in the regulation at the local ~evel, and that's the reason that I've made the motion that I've mad~, is that presumption of safety is based upon, apparently is based uponian assumption that the chemicals are applied according to the law anq as per their labels. And, X simply don't feel that we can make that ,assumption. B.G. , Commissioner $rown: Well, I think Larry's ,correct that all of oUr assumptions, ~hat the amounts that the public is exposed to are Qased on the labels land the application. And, that is protected by law. Now, if in fact the law is being broken, they are not properly mixed and applied at th~ rate that the label says, then there arerecourse~ that we have to ef~ect that part of the law. ' ! I know that in the past that all the complaints that ~ been lodged with peoples personal involvement with this, I would say probably if not all, most!all of those have not been satisfactorily followed ,up according to what I've heard from people tnat have told me their ex- periences, witlh being oversprayed or havin~ their water tested at a reasonable, ir). a reasonable length of time ,and these kinds of things. ~ i.. VOL )' 1 ]J, ip\~f , '~"f.-- .s......C' . J "il'U' l1' .."'., I I I Minutes, Weiei of February 19, 1985 Page 5: Commissi t at we see that believe had the had comi that in ner Brown (Continued): Now if there's a better mechanism to, ani, eve op to e p t at situation, I think that that, that I asl 4 area that we can try to deal better with. Because I hat ~here has been people that feel that they just have not inn qf follow-up nor the kind of response that they felt they g u der the law in their protection. , So, but I believe that ts~ ~ is, a different story becaus~ that is covered by law. 'I ' Dennison: What recourse would we have if those, we don't :atory authority outside of that narrow window of the health I I I Commissioner ~rown: The health issue but the application according to tea e an la so the method of spraying and the over spraying, is a, there are lafs on the book that regulate how that's done and how it's to be dealt! ith through the Department of ,Agriculture and like I say I think that ~t's most peoples feeling in the County that have had a problem with ~histhat they have not had good response from that avenue. Which is as, ihave looked into the situation about the only recourse that anyone: ~s if they feel they've, are agreived by an overspray. And I have ~ :agreed that that type of mechanism and the type of responses that they've tieeni able to obtain in the past has not been good. But, that's not t lsay that we don't have some avenues that we might be able to pursue t~ tt could make that better. ' , I , Commissione~ ~ennison: But they ar n't legal avenues, right? I Chairman Pit &: Well, the Forest P actices Act in the State of Wasnington is a legal a'~nue, these are laws. , , Commissioner Dennison: But, the on y, as I understand the law, the only aut or~ty we ave un er that law is as it ~elates to health, and not as it relat~ Ito the law. Because e're preempted from dealing with regulation p 1f se, that's what the orest Practices Act was set up to do. We're pte-empted from any acti n other than that which relates to public heal~fu~ i ! I : Chairman Pitt~: ~ell, if we have a speciffc probl~m with either a plot of lanCi qr a citizen who feels hat they have ~een oversprayed, there are me hanisms by which that an be addressed'l There are mechanisms I feel by th i Board, of County Commi sioners, in re~CIirds to the applicants of those, o'f 4he helicopter, as far as licensing ar~ this type of thing, and I cannot ~peak specifically to hat, what I would like to do is get on with finp 4g out what those area are irt which ~J can deal with this and find out what in fact is the in raction and if I there is an infraction how we can ij ~l W~.'th that infractitn to elimi,.natelit. Now, ~ennison: And I guess.lmy question is! re we willing to :e 0 , t e only thing hat corqesto mi d is vigilante, be- 4inly don't have any, don't be1ievel~e have any, legal Iterms of regulation. II Chairman Pit' Well, I guess that s your belief tHen you read, and guess t~er is, any kind of an ord nance or any ki~d of a. law, there's a wide rang~l*etweenthe law written on paper and.~~f~rcement of. that law and how: fQU e?C. ecute that law a. nd what ~, 'm.say~. 1;1g ~s that if J_t isn't being execu't q and., is being violated then w..e ShOUI~. jfindout where it is being vi~ 4ted and do the appropriate things th~q need to be done as far as sarbpling or testing or restriction of lifensing of helicopters or whatever: i~ happens to be in order to resolve tp~t problem. But, I think, I. r, ~~IIY, be.lieve that since the ch..arg..e tha, the County has in regards to htcl.lth, if that is not a substantial, 01:- 'Icannot be substan- tiated, then. I.~ believe what we have to do i.s, we hf~e to find out in fact, I'm going off on a tangent so I'm going to ha~e to proceed with that. I be:,lt~,.ve t.. ha. t.. there a. re ar, e as Where,., we. ca. nl ij.!mprove and mitigate the situatip ~ I believe that can happen, ifbothi ~ides want it to happen. Th'e ~'s a question on both sides on how m4qh it is happening. And, I thin~1 ~hat that, there lies a problem in i tsellf, so. Is there any furtherl ~:iLscussion with this? . , I .1~ l~' I :, ~:. -- 5714,' VOL ' r~GE' U' ~ ~, 11,"'; Minutes, Week of Febtuary 19, 1985 j Page 6: I Chairman Pitt$ (cont~nUed): We~have a motion of th floor to, I'd like to see if thi$ is correct Larry~ to impose a two ye r moratorium based on a public h~althhazard, for t~e use of all herbiFI ~des in Jefferson County, or Ea~t Jeff~rson County? I ! I' I I' , Commissioner Denniso$: Based on, let me restate m~motion. Steve JamanB~rbe: E1cuse me, ii this absolutely c~Jsed? ~, Chairman Pitt~: Yes it is. !I I I I Steve Jaman Barbe: Because during some of the' dther meetings, I was sick. I Chairman Pitt~:Thi~ is not a public hearing. Commissioner benn.is.ot It migh~ be helpful to eXPilJin that there, there's no action that we cam take on a* ordinance today i~lwe decide to enact an ordinance, land th~n it will have to be 4rafted ~rl.d it will have to go through a r! hole p'lj1blic proce~s at some point th~~e will be a public hearing in wh]chthete would bel public input. 1,.1 ~'.' Steve Jaman Barbe: ! I So there'$ no de~'sion going to be made today?, ' Commissioner D, enniSO~: There will simply be a dec~I!'. lion as regards the health risk. 1 I I , I Steve Jaman Barbe: - Well, I Lm a Viet Na. m v. eteran and there's a hell of a health risk, and if you gurs can't see it, I ~1n't know, you know, you better ta~k to t,e DistrictlAttorney about whalt.happens to this County for a cplas,s acction suit. i This end of the Up.~ted States has the highest concentratio+ of Viet N~m veterans ofanywr~re in the United States. I'veialreadr given my ~ss for this countrY'I" and you're killing me '" , I . I I I I I, I ' I ' , ' Chairman Pitt$: I d~n't wantt~ interrupt ,you bud qhis is not a public hearing and it I allc!>w you to speak I would havetbJallow everyone. I'! ' Commissioner bennisoi: I'll re$tate my motioJ:!l' I!. elieve that there is substantial re.as01:~ to doubt the safety. 0, f herbiF~des that are currently being aerially applied, I would I move that we draftl 4n ordinance with our Prosecuting Attorney that w?uld impose a two ye~r mortatorium on the aerial aPflication of herbifidesin Jefferson F~unty. Chairman Pitt: I have a question about that. Itl" my feeling as I went t roug , is process that ~f I found that ther was a health risk associated with 2,4~D which is what we have beenap~ed to look at, that it would not pe appropriate to tmpose an aerial bantOr moratorium, but it would be appropriate to ban this stuff altogeth~. Because, if there's someone out there using this stuff and it is a heail ,h risk, what difference does it make ~hether he is spraying it off.or,she ~J spraying it off the back of altruck, a back pacl;<: or an aerial'appl~dation? !. I II Commissioner ~ennison: I see t~e issue as being s~milar to the issue of smoking. you have a right tf smoke.. 1 I Chairman Pitt~ : That answers my question but I doh "It feel that if its a health hazard that it should be used. I I I I Commissioner hennison: What I'in saying is. that s!m~lhng is a health hazard and YO't,1 ha..ve a right to vse it but YOU,. do.n..' !,l:"r,.lh ave a right to impose it on 9thers. !I' , I ! ' I I . I ' ' ii' Chairman Pitts: Well, that's n~t the case.for DiojXiln, that's not the case for 2,4,~-T. If it is a h~alth hazard, I bel~4ve that it should be .. & --~--- ';'11-" 578 . .l~) . . Minutesi, Week of February 19, 1985 Page 7: i Commissioner Dennison: And basically my state~ent 's that I believe I there i~ reason t;o doubt the safety of the. chemiicail. And I'm not ' statingi! that tt is a health hazard, because I dbn' ~ have t~e information to makei, that $tatement. But, I also don'thavethe ~ format~on to make I the statement I that it is safe. And so, my'stademep is that I believ~ there i' sufftcientreason to doubt the sa~ety!of ~ ese herbicides. Chairma~ Pitt~: So it is two year moratorium balsedl n a public health' need to,' ban aJ,l herbicides, aerially applied her I bif' des in Jefferson County. ' . , I I Commissioner :Oennlson: I , i All in favor of that motion saiY ay . That's correct. I i Chairman Pitt~...:.. , I Commissioner ~ennison: Aye. Chairman PittJ: Opposed? , i Commissioner :Brown: ,Aye. , I Chairman Pitt~: Aye. The record should show trat here is one vote in tavor ot t~e motion and two votes opposed. ~o 9 dered. I would like to proceed witth this in trying to develop some ~ayl hich we can addre~s this problem qf aerial spray trespass or oversprat on people in this' County.. I'd like to ask for, I would like right: no since there are, ! the people that are sitting here are part of this, 0/ ole discuss to ad~ journ, not th~ Board, but adjourn with me, and I'di like- is there so~e- one here from ,Crown Zellerbach? Right there, the p rson from Crown I Zellerbach, ~person from Pope and Talbot, the per~ ,n from the Department of Natural ReEfources. I would like to ask ,Tom P"ayi nd a colleague ofl Tom's to sit down. with me for the next hour or so,lif it takes: more tilme than that, th~t's fine, if it takes less time t~anithat, then that's! fine, tq sit qown, and list or identify those ar~as!n both sides, thert I can come baqk to this Board and express the n~ed$ and the desires o~ both sides, wltat can or can not be done, sothep w$ can proceed as a i Board to take Iwhatever measures are necessary. ! No~, I don't know what kind of autho~ity you have in representing your] cor orations, what I'd like to do is Isee if we can :cind some common grpun~here, at which we can make this Iwork. If you're amenable to that, ~ d if my Board is amenable to ~hat, I'd like for me to adjourn and ~it down and do this. I . i : Commissioner ~rown: Are you recessing themeetfnglthe for now.. Chairman PittJ: No, I'm not recessing themeet~ng~ I a turning the meeting over to you to proceed with the meetingl bUr I ill go into vacate with tJils group presently and sit down wtLthithe Tom? , I' '. , , , , ' I I Commissioner ~rown: Okay. , I Tom Jay: Yea,1 I'~ like to just suggest that itlwo~ld be, in terms ofa discussion inithe, meeting, I think the setup isl fi*e, b t I would also like li~e it ~o be possible to have one or ,two 6th~ me bers of our coalition thete to witness it. To be there in ~hat se se, they wouldn't be spokes peoRle but they would be witnesses ana lit i... that the state- ment that Ste~e Barbe Jaman made, I think that he'$ fairly upset. He couldn'~ stick around right now, but I think th~t ay f ture meetings that the Viet INam vets ought to be represented ~n t at 'they ought to at least be P4rty to it, they ought to be there! tolsee hat's coming off because tHey feel they're the most at risk. I lit in it would be important to ~nclude them at least into the, th~nklt at they can stay co,?stantly in~ormed as to what's happening.' I fhin, th t' s an important th~ng. I · I ' i I ! Chairman PittJ: I do not feel that this imprompt' gro, that we're meeting with this ~or~ing, is going to be any kind of oh-~oi g! roup. I do feel that there ne~ds to be some sort of on-going grpu. The composition , of that has ndt yet been discussed or decided op. t, I do feel that we need to si~ doWn and itemize those areaswhicp. 0 Ire concerned ab04t I I I VOl 1 i~Gf ~- 8nJ- ~ ~ " : 'I.~p ,., II Minutes, Week of February 19, 1985 Page 8: Chairman Pitt$ (Gontinued):and those are~s which t e 'ndustr~ and DNR and mitig<itteeither immediately or doWn the roa. And, I'ld like to get started on it now because we are approac ing th spray iseason. . I can say tha~ fr,om my position and the Board's pos' ti n we are not and cannot, ever $ince I've been here and longbefo e t at, have deen people who've had, w~o have been in a great deall of distre s nd conqerned about the fact that I they've either been overspr~yed 0 th Y elt th~t their water has beer!1 'sprayed. We need to come to some so t f conc1;usions on what can be d<J>neand what is available an~ how we ig t proc~ed from there if this lis, in fact, a problem, and fhat's wha I'd like Ito do, so. i I i . i Tom Jay: WellJ Ith~nk we're willing to m~ke th t e t and Jne last thing I thinklI would, I would like to haye whateve presenqatives of the press ~ttend that meeting today. I i I Chairman Pitts: I would prefer that that not b th To~. I I Chairman Pitt$: Froj my own, as a facilitator, nd ;::f::Y:he~:~:: ~::..U:e there, I would li~e.. to sit can't discussithis t ing out of the sightlof th pr let's say. Iithink 1hat's very appropriate at his bring in the kind of emotionalism that we~ve be n t have done so tery ef ectively. I'm tryin$ to g t t problem if we ,can, a d I do not want to U$e this co mittee or !this pro- cess as a lev~r from either side to use~at. I th'nk this i~formation will in fact become ublic as it proceed Ito th'sB ar . It h~s to be- come public. I Tha,t 's my personal prefere fe and if ou do not ichose tq attend based qn that, then that's certai ~y you ch ic. I tqinkthat would, and well1 hav to approach it in Idiffe ent wa . I ' I I' I , Tom Jay: From my o. point of view, I'l latten I'll attend under protest becaul$e L think one of the parts bf thi Ie proces~ that has been the most I import nt is the fact that ~t's a public educat~on process. And this infoimation that we're going to, 'I' whate er ap ens in ithis meeting is going to b~ inform tional to the publi , as w II, ec use thfY have a right to kn6w and nticipate. If we I t~e it in he proces~ that you're speaki*g of we're going to wind u I but he ublics no~ going to know proba~ly really for two or three reeks, tha doesn't give them a whole lot o~ time to anticipate. So, ~at' s y c ncern. i , , I Chairman PittJ: Do, have any new inf t',matio not Ilbeen' presented ovet the. I six months? , I , , I iin te IIB 0 at may lor may ~entat ves t isl~ke in- 0be c nve to the ipublic. , ' , Chairman PittJ: I will defer this to my ~oard e can may~e come to some conce-ry,sus. I personally feel th tI wo ld lik~ to si~ down initially and I put those things on paper swe, s yu see them,as the forest industty sees them and discuss th ~.: I on't t ink I'~ keeping anything and my inte t . s not to keep an thing rom. the Board,1 from the Press or the public. T at's not my inte t. Bu, as we often Itime know, one side or the othe; 0 both sides can ~tt,her ry r, try, y~s is the correct proceq.ur. e., to u e the press in sqrpe way or not: er. J1 do not i think that inlthis p rt cular case where Iwe're tart in to try! to build some sort of a. way tom nage the situatiqn; tha th t' s a pro~uctive thing at this Ipoirtt. I would ask B.G. a~~Larr ..l (oman a~kingt0. speak) just ~ secon I want to ask my B9~rd fi stefqre, (wqman ,trYing to interject: I I just a Marian would YOl..t1 pleas sir down. I I II i Marian Meacham: I will not sit down becJ~se I eli ve that ydu're ge4ting into very dif:tticult'leg I ground here on Itq.e ter of open meetings. And, I... I I I I would Tom Jay: Con~tantly new information, bu not be talked I about lith the timber repr formation forlthe pu lic and that ought VOl 1: f~:' ~ i I ~~-- ~ J : ,t;. ,I-,I..~ Minutes, Week, of February 19, 1985 Page 9: ! I I Ch . p' I, I a~rman~tts: That s why I've asked t'rt people. Okay ~ I ! i II MarianMe~cha~: Alright have you consult'~lyour Pro ec tor? I really feel extremel! un.easy. about this becauselth..ere. a.re on.. standing cases involvinghav ngat least the 'press pres$ht at meet'n~of this kind. There canr~ot : e secret meetings where th~re are dec' si ' ns, processes going. And,r,. 'm '...just, I fee. I very uneasrl a,bout it. I think you're getting in very difficult ground. II Chairman Pitt~:There are no decisions ~~at ' not a decisio~ making meeting. What I wq)uld like t groups down, Ifhat have an opposing view tib'a p oble ,0 like to have,:hOs.e two groups discuss thils. L t me as certainly 'I h,. '. ve no question that you woi.!ld.. wq.. t to. b e not an open meting. It does not consti hte a ope m are not at le.tst two of us here. Is tha. n."ot correl,.t? Unidentified~erson: That's correct, SUJf' Chairman Pitt$: Now, I have no intent i I keeping t is it some little bit of information. I do .1' t thi k t at Now, if my. Bo.~rd feels that there is a p~fblem with th comply with their wishes, but ah.. I , I ,I , 1 Commissioner '.~enn. ison: I'd like to say ~~at gi en we hope to ao40mplish anything by that mathod Iwou have a mediatqr, because I don't believe Ithat, in a have such an~motionally charged issue, ~~~t yo 're to effectiveLy mediate. II I I' Ii Chairman Pitt~: I'm not, that's not everilmy intent toay, Larry. My intent is notlto r;tediateat all. My intdft is to p down concerns on Qne s~de ,of the paper and con~erns n a ot of the paper. What ,dan 'be done on one side of ~he pap r a d hat can be done on the other. I That is my pure intent on Ithis t, ingan, I have no intent on tryin~ to,.~ediate ..or com~ t.o any. kind~l~f. cO,n lusions or sugges. t that any way 1S doqe. I would l~ke to f~nd 0 t ,what can be done and what is requested,: Ibut I would certainly bow ~ that and ,we can set this up and have some Ineutral person, if you likd I ,do t at to collect this infor- mation. B..G"ldo you have an opinion? II ' I Commissioner '~rown:Well, I guess that d~ .the urf~ce that I didn't see that it WqS going to be a problem an~II don't kow hat Tom's problem, but I don't kqowwhat Marian's problem iSllin th t appro ch to .it. Because I think that ..tte' re all been around enoug~ I to k.n w t at . in alot of situations things can be I ironed out and compromise qan be ccoplished if we can keep everyone. I sitting at a table talkingl..bout pecic ic prob.lems and looking for s~pecific solutions to that specific problem. And I guess I see that: a;~ a good approach to this. It Ith:f..n that n w, I guess, since that Tom's reaction in representing I their group h s an objection to that, then II think that that in itselfilwouid set a b d tone for the meeting. 'i illl I Commissioner ~ennison: I agree. ! II i I i I : Commissioner ~rown: So, I guess that my Itecomm come to us.wi~h.a better idea of how to ~,ndl~ group' s stq.ndpo~nt. Then we'll run that .1J!.dea i b atives and see w~o fhat that approach sUilts the I guess thcflt ,~ d~dn t, ah.. II Chairman Pitt~: One of my concerns is t~~t w~' the spray sea~on for 1985. I felt that i~' we co cess by not h4ving to act as intermediaries o~ .1 I ,I ; I. I ith these made. This is is sit two ay. I would the press, there, this is eting, when there secret or keeping that's the case. t, I'll certainly he situation, if d suggest that you si tuation where yot;l going to be able would be to tion from their ies represent- t go from that. e rapidly approaching ld accelerate this pro- third, on a triangle' VOl 1 x, -,.,... - t~ .'..- _ . ~esl. ti'lG~ I I I I I I I Minut,es, Week 1II1 of February 19, 198.5 Ii Page 10: Chairman.., Pit.t~: ,..th.at we. could si~ dm'liD 4...ls a g oup table, theni1=might get us further alon$1 in It is i But, cer'tainly there seems to be some c01]1perni ,ere, do that,' so what I would ask, and. ,Tom haSI lefit the' provide us wi~h some sort of a formatth.~ yo~ woul and we will lpok .at that format and see ttE itl' 80m deal with and I try to establish some line$1 of ic mmun com~ortable w~th. Is that adequate or a~[P. rop~ ate . . . . , I. . II' Marian Meacha~: I believe that all side$1 nee~.. situation because as we have learned in tthi Ic decision,s are i not in a, it's a po~nt of tba If ndam then procedur~ becomes extremely Lmportan~. ~ d, I your feeling, I you know, we would all lik41 t Is t d and haggle, it lout, however, I have. been *~a ir., cer law late'ly which I would say, just, I hav~ he unea : I . :' we are clear, I I think even among our attq\t-n y:s, as procedure. ,.wou td b,e. ..in this kind O,.f situa..~!ti nl,. we'r cult ground. lAnd, I think it would be m~ h b~ ter as you suggest. I'm stating now my pers~la P siti our, any orgaJp,ization. If we had a clea#1 p olt col s to be dope., ttmeis pressing true, but w~1 m g'h be ,il if we have cltarprocedure in the Ibeginn~pg y U.kn1w, Chairman Pitt$: I guess, Mariam, Imy int~ht w~s to ry to get those questions that are on both sides down.. '11 i 'III Marian Meacha~: I undertand your 'intent.~ I , '. I .i I i Chairman Pitt~: ,and, instead oftrying'!toapticip and form1-1late I. protocol? try to find out ~., ra I ~.. '. ose ::::e:.. c:::r. O:O.:Yf ::' ::s ::n::~l~f a;.::: ).1 ~ I::... e~s ta and I underst*nd your feelings, the sugg~~t.on was that we mi.g. htI. tur.n to a m. ediator. If yo~, It rp to. a then, in a serilse, is your witness. You sl~e wh t.I secret meetin~s or anything that can be dbn tr ed a well, puts a ~loud not only upon y,ou, it I~i I, put a , II Chairman Pitt~: I guess unfortunately aql t of legal dots land commas and whatever, dol d be done, and tf one side of the other doe$ contend to do I that and because I don't t1i~n lems if $omeone goes in arrl approaches thelt:>o is a disfldvantage. So I'm not going to ~ft Mariam Meacharh:Well, I, essentially wh~t I believ(.: unttl we have this probl!em of #pa maybe I'm maktng problems where there .ar~tl' I'm.not,:poin~ing out a really serious t#fP to see o'\J.r Cortlmissioners put in asituatilpn cedural groun~s. .11 I ," Chairman Pitt$: It's been suggested, Tomlth list of conce~ns and that list be forward~d that to the irjldustry to let them addressltt is a tremendm!Ls amountof1:irrelost in ,this t~pe and take.. an. d. ~p on.taneous informa tL,on thati.~' g cedure, but c$rtainly I would feel, that ~ by doingl that I then that's what should bel 0 , I. . II Commissioner ~ennison: I would like to s~g tha the idea of a I mediation and if so I woul<ilb happy the Univ~rsitx of Washington and Office qf Envi see if there ~s some way to work sbmethi4g1 u~. Chairman' Pitt$: B. G..1... do you have any cqrm nts or...? Commissipner $rown: Nothing is simple a1~m rr I gu ss. ,I I II , II ! VOL talk across a iate season. on't want it to , is that you b comfortable with th'ng that we can ca, ion that you feel or do you feel that's a much better ere policy I division, erstand exactly around the table reports of case eeling that unless hat acceptable' I on very diffi- ave it set out: without consulting o how this was' s farther ahead, those questions tions are and ' our intent for instance iator, a mediator ? These days . secret meetingr ud on us. ere these.sorts an and cannot , not and do not to solve prob- what they feel hat risk eithe'lt. 'tn tryi ~ccept a y, b door he of bein o get at is th~t, protocol is, 'm not sure thqt I would not want a sailable on pr6- do is direct a hen we can forward here personally e as far as give is type of pro- re comfortable e any ah... th sides consider et in touch with I Mediation to .~ 1" [!"~ rAv. .. nl=~5B2 ..' I I I I I I I I II Chairman Pitts: Never was. I! ! ,I i. I . II Commissi9ner Brown: It used to seem that I way a way. I guess that I can, I just fJel that if we don't do som~thing irly simple, you know, and I can seelthat what Larry's suggesti~~ is:g ting i to somewhat a ~omplex S.., it. uati. i<;n, I, don't know what the .I~. vai1-a i'lity of mediators i, s ..... ~n these' situJt~ons and I don't know howlthat: t y woul be able to con- vey to us wha~ their feelings was to do s!~metl;1i . Anything that that mediatorwoulq. do would not be binding on!our,B rd of Commissioners, nor woulditifqne of us, if John would ha~$ we~t, that uldn't have been binding on ou~ Board either, as long as t~ereli just 0 e of us. I guess that I ~ee that if we really don't]try to it do' and knock out some things i~ a short period of time he~~, we e goin to be going through anoth~r year of spraying as we h~te in e past. And I have not liked tha~ situation at all because, ltt i~ t fun or anybody. It's not f~n for tqe people that are overspra~~d and heir f ustrations that they find as ~hey try to solve their pro~iem th ugh th legal channels being the DePcrrt ent of Agriculture and t!l~ose It es of t ings, why it makes a bad situation all the way around and as I they come Ulstrated why . they turn,' t. 0 ~s for. help and we have been.llreal.'l hard p essed to do a whole lot of Ej.nyt ing that was very prod~, ~tive' the sort period of time that they fete t. was satisfactory. S '.'~ I gu s that with the season approaching u~ as fast as it is, and I kQw w~a MadBri~ talking about, as far as, yot). get into these legalitieslc!md so orth a d if we all si.t back trYi. ng' tq co er our seats from the ~.!Iegal is ndpoin and not really get up front ~here and try and get sometning *t east t at we think is going to I. beb~tter to get us through thislll spra. y eason etter this year than we have ~n t e past, if we're going to acc plish hat I think that that it's got Ito be a fairly simple mech~*ism'a not b too complicated or I see'us j'4st ending up as we have in!the pa years with frustrated people running around wanting help durin~ltheis aying season and not being able to Ifi d the kind of answers t~tt tl;1e want. Commissi6ner Den ison: Having dealt wit~lmedia 'on in he past, I feel i e ~t .S pel1 aps t e simplest solutionithat~ e only thing it super- imposes is a 4isi terested party to servellas ~a 'cally witness. '. ! II! J Chairman 1 Pitts: Tom. II , Tom Jay:! I sJggest ah, I think if we coJ11 d h~v a five minute recess and the coalitiion could just have a chancl tolt k am on themselves, that we might Ibe able' to come up with so~.thing 1hat we could work out today and we ~ight be able to have this ~~eti~g 'f we, 't's kind of hard to get a, we're a consensus organization I~nd we on't, an't fire off and one perso~ or, another person speak f~T us~ 0 if w have a chance to get t6geth~r a dtalk, possibly we co~1d wQr out so e kind of thing that we felt oomfortable with and we cou14 get ck to ou in five or . ten minute es.. and a.. c. ould arrange this meel~ing 1.0 some s rt of level and do that today'! Because I think that Bro~ie'~ int is well taken, that at least. the ~nformationand the dialogue'l'l oug~t 0 be s arted so people can,so that tije position can be clearly ~efin~d. I thi k that's an im- portant first I step. i I '. I ' II ' Chairman'P~tt~: That's certainly my intel+t and you recess an~co e back and tell you,b~~ause can go througl1 alot of legal gesticulatiol~s a~d to do nothing imore than eat up time. An~~ myli solution toda)f, intent is to find and!1[:o wti see as th.e prqble s. Okay, so you wand I to fa ten minutes bljea? Phil? II Phil Andrus: Ican I as just one questiodt III Chairman Pitts: Yes]1 Phil Andrus: IJOh,. if the timber industJt pe9P do no object could the press be <tt t is meting, would you slTil~ 10 ect? II i I Chairman Pitt~-.:. Let ask the timber iIljcilustty 'f they object. The timber industly does t object. II . i i ! I I : I ! II ! I Minutes, Week of February 19, 1985 page 11: would think rocedu ent is out w a fiv be happy to have hat we are, we es that are going not to find a at both sides minute break, i1 -=~-s83 flCE 19, 1985 Chairma ormati policy Mike an for any people or the this in this Bo and I f to say certain never w gathere from an I, and I'm not sure that s ... I I think you're missing the ppint. : : I i : .. the that's the poi~t at all,beE Be I don't think, o ereally objects. Somttim~s in these kinds of sit- , e trying to hammer outla m~chanism to solve a problem, i h fewer number of peopte apd some 0 the things will t are said there, I think more 'can be accomplished. o'ng to be there we might aslwell do it right here , I I : I , Pitts: W .'ve had a ten minutes tecess, Tom ha e you come to o cGnclusion or any kind of decision on what you might like hOr' tou'd like to proceed with t~is?1 . ' I : I , . . Ye., Iwet lked it over and we'veldec:;i.dedthat we would concede s i s~e i h the understanding th~t afterwards the press might que tions f people after the meetingl, but during the meeting: s s o~ld n t be there. We feel like We would like to have the of: h~ ca ition present but onlylonelspokespe son for the, ol1e pok slpe p e for the coalition. !nd that we might confer with of ~U1 c a ition during the thing I if ~omething ~ame.up and we h v~, e wouldn't be four or five people tal ~ng ~t would be wo 'e~rese tati~es. And.that the $eeting wou~d basically be con- an I x<(ha g of ~nformat~on betwee~ thl= two s~des. Pi~tJ: T at's all this meeting is a~out is a exchange of in- n. I I 0 'see us making any decisions or maki g any kind of r a~y1thi g- like that and as far as th~ press is concerned, for for ~orte, I'm not excluding or ~sking for yo to be excludeq oth~rlre s n than- to try to set a climate in that room, that an I eel r e and are not guarded ~y wpat they' e saying one way the and i certainly is not the intert to exclude the press from orm tion., Because as soon as I btingithis information back to rd hat in ormation is public inf~rmation. I ave no reservations el h~t, I never did have any res~rva~ions abo t anybody who wants om~ h!ng. Whatever you choose, that's your in ividual right and y y ut 0 business what you say 1::0 the press or not, so that' s a ~nt My intent is to get: som~ information collected and anf t(:ha . what I'd like to do w~th this. Are there any questions of y~u ee? I : ~ I i ~ro John, I don't know if yoh, if you felt that you would ng on t y ng to set up some kind I of ~ mechanism that would help gh h~ s r y season or not, but +'d l~ke to see at least approach stifmiwhil you're at that meetin~. ~ecause I feel that we, we're ne d I soe kind of a mechanism to I han~:lle situations where people I a gtie e . by whatever the situationlbe, duri g the spray season. I ; I ! I : rry do you have any sp~ciftc comments or.. Then will do now is there'~lan 11:30 meeting and there's meeting and I'd ask that Ilbe excus d from those two eet with this group. .t'velarranged to have the third om, in this building m~de ~vailable until one or two . So, if you want to~ll ~it down, just sit down on paper, then we canlgo from ther. Marian'Z , I ' ttwo , so I understand what B.G. is talking . You would like to s~e t4e participants here, now ginnings of some kind ~f procedure. A grievance pro- o are concerned about ~nju~y or abo t some injury from that really... I I I n: Well, as you know Matianl, I'm sur re people that have fett aggri'eved nd they have felt frustrat~d as the situations and I would like to see that you're familiar y aerial spraying have tried to re- us try to make Tom Jay t e pre of have the pre members or two members wouldn' one or sidered Chairma a, t also a meeting floor c I think and put ----~--- - HIOL 11 f;4~ if' ~ ,584 -1 Mike Marti a ternoon who are at something th~t we can more, that we anner than we've v ryone tries ~o, usion as to how that s that we, I'd s if we try to s n on top of us , I'd like to see e us some kind of t has been in the Minutes, W ek of Page 13: a very c nstructive suggestion e us and especially r real courtesy and t that you're here, h a good audience. a time this the people our agenda for will, and when inly invite you~ be this aft t our agenda. d very hopefully 'II be here this h se folks from n erence room and vices Contract o missioner Brown the motion installation ,I tv~ 11 i~!; r~'--S~5 c: . .. I Minutes, pagei14: Busi ess f 0 Depattment. Mr. breen of the tern what I to c i The sound Davi~Gol the E & E I load~r. itself pro runs I at a dardris t Burm~, wal the tOise Mr. reen is ttat he site which be a~le to for f-vari I The flanni on March 6 indu$trial Gold$mith act cbn the D. I. ~sc'f1ss~on are tnvolv as w~ll as stattd tha be sc;>me de impo!ed by necersary Rach~l Nat had teceiv aske~that the l:i1ours The IhiPpe 109. gl' n.g co long way t Mr. . ar I n sChejule. Comm~ssion requ~sted to,alperma for *he mu the rttotion , , , Coyl~,Peni teas ~n Depaftment proptrties repo ted, the letter of Nqn-Sig Shor~line Shorlline t e acanc and ,he ap advi~ed. th in b~fore I I I Departments - Plannin ! , Department I exactly was making tee mpst noise a per operation, because he really ha e in compliance with ~he noise standa taken at the propert~ bolundaries, P rted, and when the noise ~evel was ,m s site, there was no ~ruck activity onitor measures cumul~tiv~ noise, bu the most noise because it is a dies The key to being in Fomp~iance with noire from getting toi the' propertyb thing that will direc~ th~ noise upw property boundaries roulf help acco , I' at the reason that th~y h~d requeste othing that can be done a~ their p~e cost effective, espectally when th~y permanent site withif thi" 30 days ,t , , ion will review thelnewi site Mr.G a determination on th~ir request tq he airport to includei their adjacent Once that determinatihn i~ made the Commission's recommenaatibn on March I ! ssibile alternatives ~nd the conting ncies that ee ing a permanent site for ~ chipper 0 eration followed, si n of ways to buffer tpe sbund. Comm ssioner Dennison dd'ls and Mr. Green need to understandt at there could th~ir operation because ~f the short, 30 day time frame the v ri~nce and the time needtd tp work thro gh all of the oncer s ~nd permits for approv1 I of the new site. anson, A~lsistant Planner, note~ tha.t in thec mplaints she d bo t ~he noise at the temporary! site, the omplainants had if a ar~ance was granted thatithei possibilit of limiting f pe at~on be addressed. I qUire~ a half hOjlr warm up ~ime!in and the ct r. s listart coming in at 7 :()O al.m. becaus.e they hav.e a av I. i A rundown period is ~lsoi required i the evening~ ut Ihe would be willing tf' work out a better operating I I , , I en isq~ moved to approve th~ variance for 30 days as & E E1pterprises, while theylareiimplementi g their move locatillion, and that the houts of operation be scheduled. co verience of ~11 partiesl crmmissioner Brown seconded , I su a ro~ierties re: Extension ~f c9mment peri d: Letters from to tat~ Department 0 is eres,lepartment 0 Game and. of ,Ecolo~W were received regardling! the Coyle Peninsula pr ject dUI ring the extended cOrPment period, Da id Goldsmith ow ver t:.lle.re were. no, new areas I,Of tonc.ern no.ted in any of . th t oul~ require that the is+uan~e of the Determination if' ca ce 'Ibe changed. The project 'o/'i11 now go efore the om issiom for their review. I,' ", Ii ' I , , . I I o issio vacancy: One applic.tio~ has been received for o t e ,ore ~ne Commission. I The i vacancy has been advert~sed Ii ants .'X.. ll..st be from. the Marro.wsto1;le Island area. The Boar.,d t ~ey wOi l~ like.to wait to see if anotherap lication comes ol ~ng an~ ~nterv~ews. I I I , I I the site nIt any idea ds. anning Director nitored at ther than the the chipper I motor and the noise stan- undaries. ' rd or corral plish this. the variance ently rented are hoping to ey requested een mentioned, xtend the property, David oard will 11, 1985. I I , ~ ". ~~>>I.. ~f ;._..:i.-l- ~ .j... ~ , " _~_" 586 19, 1985 Beverly l'son secon e to locate an , Dickgie$er: t e mott:lon off-pre$ise I i I , , , I Commission r Brown mol ed to deny Mrs. Beverly f' sign within the Tri-Arra I reconvene e8 the Board 1- d a ttendedl ' * * * George Yount's person~l chance to keep it in tact, c uld i pose system servi~g the ~lympic Pe insula which cou~d s of industrles that may loca e here in the ne~t otecting the railro~d right-of-way ow, may bel b.UY- transportation.! I : ently known, Mr. Yo~nt ~oted ~n response to COjm,iS- Y, but one option w9uld!be to make an offer to the of ,ver a ten year es is considering the a~quisi ion of that section t Angeles City limifs. ! i , in that Pier 27 in Seattle ad in Se~ttle, coul~ be! conde the rail. road cease~ to I. .exi s t tive sites in Seattte that co termination would have to be th . t I I ese Sl es. I I I I d George Yount woula like the n w if this is a proj~ct that s u d like assistance ftom the Co etto save the railroa# at' least ai a Ie through State an~ Feaeral ti n of prope~ties and assetb. I ' t a~ they would like tolhav~ more n 'n1ication of support. I George Y te ndication of approxtmat~ cost e rd at that time. I : I ! f Bills: I The! billsi,for I ' prove Of payment y ea nce of ofkice!' equip nison secon e. t e Office Eqpipm~nt fo I 587 <l..-l ~. Minufes, Week of Pagel 16: $1,4l8.50 worth prep ration of a Olym,ic Peninsul Notice that Budgets in I Funds have INotice the I nomination 1 Board for Rental the VFW Ha as Commissioner Den I I ' Employ The tequest 0 on t*e motion of I I A' I P o~n Wayn~ Bleier was Serv~ces Departm Prof,ssional by Dennfson. Mr. B I MEETiNG ADJOURNE I I I I I I SEAL I ATTEtT: I I II February 19, 985 fin-kind ser to the PDA, for the de overall econ mic developmen~ plan for as ,outlined 'n the Agreement. , , I issioner Brownimoved and approve and sitgn thefol Port Townsend ~eader: elopment aTIid he Norther1 ommissioneJ owing Public he. County from the anagement fqr I " JEFFERSON GOUNTY BO.ARD OF Ci.:MM1. SSI.O~S ~ J' h L P' ; , 'Ch'l on. ~tts, a~r an i J tVOL 11 f t 588 ~__~_._.._.,_._.J