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Amanda Hunt
From:DCD Front Staff
Sent:Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:44 PM
To:Amanda Hunt
Subject:FW: Proposed "Retreat" on 20 acres off of Oak Bay Road at milepost three
Public Comment
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From: John Ammeter <jammeter@cablespeed.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 12:20 PM
To: DCD Front Staff <dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: Proposed "Retreat" on 20 acres off of Oak Bay Road at milepost three
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I live on Skywater Drive less than 1/2 mile south of the proposed retreat. My understanding is the property is in two
parcels. One zoned one house per 20 acres and the other parcel zoned for one house per 5 acres. My own community
is zoned one house per 5 acres. This is zoning that provides us with comfortable size lots and privacy.
To allow a large commercial retreat this close to my own community is not desired by me or several of my immediate
neighbors. Increased traffic on Oak Bay Road would be detrimental to safety. I often find bicyclists riding on the side of
the road. There is only about 6 inches from the fogline available for bikes to travel. This, of course, means they are in
the roadway and the increased traffic can only cause more accidents or near accidents.
I am opposed to any commercial use of that property.
John Ammeter
423 Skywater Drive
Port Hadlock, WA 98339
206‐914‐4602
*Exhibit O*
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Amanda Hunt
From:Peter P <pkpobr@gmail.com>
Sent:Monday, September 20, 2021 2:48 PM
To:Amanda Hunt
Cc:Peter Petrakos
Subject:MLA21-00066
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Dear Ms. Hunt,
I am writing this to express my concerns over MLA‐00066. I am just amazed at how fast this was posted and the short
lack of time to allow everyone to express their concerns and there seem to be quite many of them.
My name is Peter Petrakos. I live two parcels over from the proposed project. I don’t understand how something like
that retreat can even be considered. Most of us here on the hill are retired and bought our properties and have
developed them according to the zoning.
How can a person come in and build such a place and request zoning changes? It just baffles me.
One of my biggest concerns is the tranquility of the area. But the biggest concern is water and runoff concerns.
With the climate change and the drier summers where will the extra water come for the 30 some people? I’m sure most
of us on the hill all pull our water from the same aquifer. A development like that seems to me would put a big dent on
water up here.
And what about all the run off from the rain? I know that there is concerns about that on both sides of Oak Bay Rd.
In my opinion there has to be more studies on just water and runoff issues.
I also think the deadline at the end of the month needs to be extended to allow more information on the impact to our
little area here.
Thank you for your time.
Regards,
Peter Petrakos
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Amanda Hunt
From:defossma@aol.com
Sent:Monday, September 20, 2021 5:48 PM
To:Amanda Hunt
Subject:Proposed retreat on 20 acres near mile 3 marker on Oak Bay Road
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Hello: My husband and I have lived on Skywater Drive for 15 years. I would like to express our major reservations about
the proposed "yoga retreat" off Oak Bay Road between Skywater Drive and Eagle Ridge Drive. Traffic is the most obvious
impact, and this will start with the necessary logging, followed by a fairly large construction project, before the actual
proposed usage of the property even begins. Another serious concern is water; where will the water needed for this facility
come from? Water is already an issue in Washington, and it will only get worse, especially here in the rain shadow of the
Olympics.
Another serious concern is the viability of this business proposal. As described, it is a pretty narrow offering, and it will be
competing with other venues in the area that can offer additional amenities. If this business fails, what will happen to the
developed property? It will obviously not revert to forest. History suggests that it will then pass to some other business that
we neighbors did not assent to.
Finally, this is a business proposal for a rural residential area. It will not have a waterside presence that might make it
more attractive and appropriate for its proposed use. Neither will it be on a "mountaintop" that might also make sense for
this kind of development.
At the very least, we feel that the comment period needs to be extended so that all interested parties have a chance to
understand the proposal and make their concerns known.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely
Edward and Mary Anne Desfosses
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Amanda Hunt
From:susan bishop <suzzymbishop@gmail.com>
Sent:Monday, September 20, 2021 8:03 PM
To:Amanda Hunt
Subject:Opposition to proposed Pomona Woods LLC Development
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Hello Ms Hunt.
I am very concerned about the proposed Pomona Woods LLC development for a retreat off of Oak Bay. My concerns are:
‐ The proposal includes 43+k new impervious surface area on only a 25 acre site. The additional impervious surface will
cause associated run‐off with potential slope destabilization depending on the logging,
‐ The development includes 24 rooms which will increase traffic not only in the immediate area but cumulatively,
particularly if the retreat hosts events that is open to attendees beyond those staying there. We cannot get out of our
driveway some weekends because of traffic getting off the Peninsula. Attendees are likely to explore the area adding
more traffic beyond just going to the retreat initially. Cycling is popular in the area and the roads are becoming
dangerous given the lack of shoulders. This will add to that.
‐ It is inconsistent and potentially disruptive with the primary residential zoning use in the area (see conditional use
permit criteria).
‐ The impact on water use and availability. We received a notice this summer regarding potential rationing given the low
water available with the lack of rain. The climate change that will be increasingly the case and I am concerned about
additional impact on water availability particularly from something that is designed to serve primarily those outside the
community.
There are two similar locations already available for similar use off Oak Bay Rd.: the Port Ludlow Resort, and the Old
Alcohol Plant, which has waterfront gardens, a vegetable garden, restaurant, and meeting. These are locations with
amenities nearby. I support businesses like that proposed when they are sited appropriately and fit with the community.
The proposed development does not meet those criteria.
I would like to attend the Zoom hearing on the proposal I understand is scheduled for October 1. Would you send the
logistics on how to join?
Regards,
Susan Bishop
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Amanda Hunt
From:Terri Ross <terri40love@yahoo.com>
Sent:Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:41 AM
To:Amanda Hunt
Subject:Pomona Woods Project
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Hello Amanda, I would like to register a concern regarding the Pomona Woods LLC project. I live
across the street from this.
The following are my concerns.
1. This is not a residential project. We are not zoned for commercial
2. The water run off from Oak Bay Road already comes down my property if they cut more trees it
will be worse.
3. Water usage and septic for 24 rooms/showers & a kitchen will impact our wells/ground water.
We have no public water.
4. No benefit to the community, except devalue our properties if you rezone to commercial
5. More traffic coming on to Oak Bay Road
There are plenty places to have events in Port Townsend ‐ Fort Flagler, Fort Warden etc. What
happens if this venture fails and someone else comes in and changes the rules?
Why is the SEPA determination only Non ‐Significance? There are wet‐lands on that property..
Please reconsider this project. I would like to be notified of the zoom meeting.
Thank you for your consideration on this matter. Any questions please call.
Terri Ross
2971 Oak Bay Road
Port Hadlock, WA 98339
(360) 301‐3737
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Amanda Hunt
From:Amanda Hunt
Sent:Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:52 AM
To:Amanda Hunt
Subject:FW: MLA21-00066 1
Amanda Hunt
Assistant Planner
ahunt@co.jefferson.wa.us
From: Robert Kaufmann <rgk2@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:46 AM
To: Amanda Hunt <AHunt@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: MLA21‐00066
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Dear Ms. Hunt,
I am attaching an email message I sent yesterday to Commissioner Eisenhour regarding MLA21‐00066. I would
appreciate your comments.
Sincerely,
Robert Kaufman
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September 20, 2021
TO:
Heidi Eisenhour - County Commissioner
Jefferson County - District 2
RE:
Jefferson County Public Notice of Type III Land Use
Application and Pending SEPA Determination MLA21-00066
Applicant - Pomona Woods LLC
Dear Commissioner,
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I am writing to you to express my strong objections to the proposed land use by Pomona Woods LLC as outlined under
application MLA-00066.
There may have been a time when any purchase of “deep forest” land in Jefferson County might have served varied
purposes but, that time has passed for this specific area. I am sure I speak for many of my neighbors who feel as I do. This
is a settled, residential area now and not for commercial purposes. We have all come here to retire or simply live
peacefully and without any commercial distractions.
Here, in no specific order, are a few of my objections and concerns:
- Negative impact to the existing aquifer that currently sustains residences
- Increased traffic on Oak Bay Road which is already a problem
- Constant flow of strangers with no vested interest in our area
- There are already existing venues suited for the purposes outlined by Pomona Woods
- Commercial signage
- Potential business failure with an unacceptable repurpose of assets
Thank you for your consideration. I would appreciate your comments.
Sincerely,
Robert Kaufmann
3162 Oak Bay Road
Port Hadlock, WA 98339
360 437-4125
rgk2@sbcglobal.net
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Amanda Hunt
From:Chris Malan <cjmalan@gmail.com>
Sent:Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:36 PM
To:Amanda Hunt
Cc:Terri
Subject:Comments and Request for Notice Regarding Public Notice of Type III Land Use Application and
Pending SEPA Determination MLA21-00066
Attachments:Comment and Request for Notice.odt
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Amanda: Attached please find the referenced Comments and Request for Notice. Please include these
comments in the record of proceedings for this application.
Thank you.
Chris
Chris and Laurie Malan
3135 Oak Bay Road
Port Hadlock, WA 98339
cjmalan@gmail.com
801-541-0303
Amanda Hunt, Project Planner
Jefferson County Department of Community Development
Development Review Division
621 Sheridan Street
Port Townsend, WA 98368
Re: Comments and Request for Notice Regarding
Public Notice of Type III Land Use Application and Pending SEPA
Determination
MLA21-00066
Dear Ms. Hunt:
Please consider this letter to be our comments and request for notice in the
referenced matter. We have a number of concerns with the proposed development
and request that the Department and Division carefully consider these matters and
include them in the formal record of proceedings.
First, we object to the use of the optional Determination of Non-Significance
(DNS) process of SEPA for the proposed development. Among other impacts, the
proposal would create 43,607 square feet of new impervious surface. Applicant’s
SEPA Environmental Checklist, Custom Soil Resource Report and Geotechnical
Report do not reference or include an analysis of the known instability and land
subsidence issues in the vicinity of the proposed development along Oak Bay Road
and Old Oak Bay Road. The failure to conduct a full SEPA review in an area of
known geologic issues is improper.
Additionally, adjacent and downgradient property owners are concerned
with the impact of more than an acre of impervious surface within the proposed
development and the unknown impacts on their properties. These issues and
associated environmental impacts should be thoroughly analyzed pursuant to a full
SEPA review.
Amanda Hunt
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Next, we oppose the application for a conditional use permit to allow a
prohibited use of the subject property within our residentially zoned neighborhood.
Neighbors of the proposed conference center have a significant interest in
preserving the residential quality of our neighborhood. Commercial developments
of the nature proposed by Applicant will irreparably and irreversibly change the
residential quality of our neighborhood. We respectfully request that the
application for a conditional use permit be denied.
Given the known and unknown long term impacts of the proposed
development, we urge the SEPA Official to reconsider the decision to use the DNS
process and to conduct a plenary environmental review of the proposed
development under SEPA. We further request that the Development Review
Division deny the land use application and conditional use permit for this
development.
Sincerely,
Chris J. Malan
Laurie J. Malan
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Amanda Hunt
From:Ron Standley <ron.standley12@gmail.com>
Sent:Friday, September 24, 2021 11:10 AM
To:Amanda Hunt
Subject:Pending Pomona Woods Proposal MLA21-00066
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Hello Amanda.
Thank you for soliciting public comments on the proposed Pomona
Woods Community improvements, MLA21‐00066.
My wife and I reside at 2388 Oak Bay Road. We're concerned about
traffic impacts that would surely result if this project is permitted. As you
know, the current speed limit on Oak Bay Road is 50 MPH. Our primary
concern is the increased traffic that would occur as the seven staff
members commute twice‐daily to and from this proposed site. In
addition, the proposed 'commercial' kitchen would require several fresh
grocery deliveries each week, likely by truck. This increased traffic risk is
above and beyond the level of traffic generated by the many anticipated
guests arriving, touring the area, then leaving for their respective homes.
Our driveway entrance connects to Oak Bay Road near the top of a hill. In
the year we've lived here, we've had several close calls where other
drivers have come close to hitting us. In one instance, a 'triggered'
individual went so far as to pass us in a designated no‐passing zone. We
proceeded northbound and observed that individual then pass another
vehicle on a blind curve. We watched as a southbound Jefferson County
Sheriff executed a u‐turn to pursue and stop that pickup truck in front of
the animal hospital.
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One way to mitigate these traffic safety risks would be to widen Oak Bay
Road for an adequate distance in advance of their driveway entrance.
The additional space would permit a center turning lane for slowing
northbound resort traffic, providing safe space to wait for an opportunity
to turn left into their driveway, while allowing other northbound vehicles
to continue safely. Further, additional width would be needed to allow
for a right‐turn‐only lane for south‐bound resort traffic to enter their
driveway safely while allowing other southbound traffic to continue
unimpeded. The developer must willingly pay for these, and any
additional expenses. As a taxpayer, I would resent being asked to
contribute to the cost of ‐ any ‐ mitigating solutions.
Additional concerns we have discussed involve increased water usage.
Guests and staff would require water. The proposed 'commercial' kitchen
will greatly increase water consumption as taps in this environment are
nearly always running wide open while food is prepped. Some
commercial kitchens use power‐washing techniques to maintain health
standards. Subsequent fresh water flow would impact the proposed
septic system, requiring increased capacity. We've recently had a visit
from a representative from Jefferson County Health Department who
was investigating the increased bacterial load being released into Oak
Bay and the resulting toxic algae bloom. That impact involved only a few
homes whose septic fields might empty into a nearby creek. Now,
imagine the resulting impact of the guests and staff of this proposed
resort.
Also of concern is future zoning changes once a commercial enterprise is
permitted in an existing Rural Residential community? We purchased an
existing home in this residential area which we found very pleasant. If the
proposed resort negatively changes the community, we may decide to
move again, denying Jefferson County our tax dollars.
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Lastly, the large amount of forested area that would be removed to allow
for structural foundation, impervious‐surfaced roads and parking is going
to have a much larger impact than that which 4‐5 private residences
would have. The resulting paved square footage would have a negative
impact on rain runoff/drainage, potentially increasing downslope soil
saturation which creates risk of soil liquefaction in an earthquake
scenario, increasing landslide exposure. Another consideration is denying
existing tree roots the water needed for continuing forest health.
I trust each of our concerns will be considered as your staff contemplates
this decision.
Ron and Pam Standley
2388 Oak Bay Road
Port Hadlock‐Irondale, WA 98339
720‐939‐4790
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Amanda Hunt
From:Bradley Offutt <boffutt01@icloud.com>
Sent:Monday, September 27, 2021 10:27 PM
To:Amanda Hunt
Subject:The proposed Retreat Center on Oak Bay Road
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Ms. Hunt, I know you’re receiving lots of input on this proposed development, so I’ll keep it short.
As near as I can tell from the information available, this proposed development will be a positive change as our county
grows and seeks expanded business possibilities. I have read what the owner is proposing and have read many, many
objections from folks who oppose this change. I believe it would be a good thing for Jefferson County and that many of
the objections are ill conceived.
Thank you,
Bradley Offutt
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Amanda Hunt
From:Jan Quick <janquick@msn.com>
Sent:Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:05 PM
To:Amanda Hunt
Subject:Re: The Conditional Use Permit for Retreat Center on Oak Bay RD.
Attachments:2021-9-27 Pomona Woods letter .pdf
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We are sending this to you as we were informed that you are involved in the permit process on this property.
Thank you for the opportunity to weigh in on the future of our community.
Attached are our comments on the proposed development and the main reasons that we believe this development
should not be approved.
Jan & Dave Quick
3186 Oak Bay Rd
Port Hadlock, WA
360‐774‐1464
To the Jefferson County Dept of Community Development, Development Review Division:
Re: Parcels #921183008 & 921183002 Conditional Use Permit for a Small-Scale Tourist Recreation Use
Retreat Center on Oak Bay Road
We are submitting our comments on the proposed development of this property By Pomona woods LLC.
We have been property owners at 3186 Oak Bay since 2004 and have lived on our property for the last
12 years. We are six parcels to the south of the proposed development.
Our experience building and living here over the last decade gives us some concerns about the proposed
Pomona Woods Retreat Center and its potential impact to the area.
Our primary concern is the continued availability of adequate potable water for the existing wells on
properties near this proposed development.
Our house, like many on the west side of Oak Bay, is sited high on the ridge closer to the western end of
the property which borders commercial forests. The proposed Pomona Woods structures would be
similarly sited on its parcel. We share a 204 ft. deep well with the neighbors south of us. The well head is
located on their parcel, the pumphouse/storage tanks on ours. The well serves four people in total over
ten acres. During the wet season, the well pump draws enough water to fill our reserve tanks and keep
up with normal usage. In the drier summer months, the volume typically slows down but has been
adequate until recent years.
Over the last several years, we’ve experienced repeated water shortages in the summer months when
the pump cannot pull enough water to keep our tanks filled. We must constantly monitor our water
usage and sometimes cut back on garden watering, laundry or showers and other normal use to allow
our system to recharge. We have water saving appliances, low flow toilets and always let lawn our areas
go dormant. We use water conservation methods for our vegetable gardens and landscape plants. The
drought of this summer was especially challenging, and we have heard from others in the area that their
wells are also stressed in the summer months.
The proposed retreat center will likely be most active precisely at the time of year when our local wells
are already most stressed. Surely the proposed commercial kitchen, large vegetable garden, and up to
30 guests needing showers, bathrooms, and clean bed linens has the potential to over burden the local
aquifer even more. What happens if this project is built, and our wells begin to fail? Is there any
recourse for established properties if they become unlivable for lack of water?
A second issue is the petition to change the zoning of these parcels to allow for commercial use in a
residential area.
Currently the east parcel is zoned RR1:5 and steep heavily wooded west parcel is zoned RR1:20. As we
understand it, that would be allow for one residence on each property, consistent with what exists in
the surrounding area. Changing the zoning to allow for commercial use in a residential area seems an
arbitrary choice that benefits only the landowner wishing to turn this property into a commercial
venture. It would serve groups of people mainly from outside the community who can afford to rent the
whole facility, but not the general community it resides in. What real benefit does this project bring to
our community? Does it loosen the zoning codes to allow a cascade of non-residential uses outside the
Urban Growth Areas?
A third problem is the potential for increased disruption and traffic on Oak Bay Road and noise
coming from the construction and operation of the facility.
During the construction, there will likely be periodic obstruction to traffic along Oak Bay Road. Until the
road is built, trailers hauling large equipment will need to off-loaded at the edge of Oak Bay Rd. To clear
the way for the driveway, logging and brush cutting will add more noise and traffic. Installing a septic
system to accommodate a 30- guest building will mean more digging, trenching and re-grading than
would a typical home sized system. Trucks delivering building materials, construction workers’ vehicles,
and the noise of construction will bring months of early morning noise to the close-in neighbors,
possibly much longer due to the scale and complexity of this building project.
To operate the retreat facility, there will be inevitable traffic of retreat attendees, employees and
delivery trucks coming and going from the property. Once established, there may be light pollution
coming from guests' windows, the parking areas and outdoor lights. The driveway may need more
outdoor lighting for visitors who don’t know the terrain, than for a homeowner who drives it regularly. If
the retreat center operates year-round, the driveway will need regular maintenance to keep it clear of
leaves, fallen trees, branches and snow. A gravel road will need regrading periodically to deal with
erosion, runoff and subsidence as the roadbed ages or is scaped too thin by a snowplow. (We know this
from 7 years of living on a long, steep gravel road in a previous home.)
During retreat events, it is likely that outdoor noise will reach the nearby neighbors. Even if the proposal
states that no outdoor amplification will be allowed, do we have any assurance that this promise will
always be enforced? People away from home tend to be noisy outdoors and people in groups even
more so. And sounds carry surprisingly well along this slope. Sometimes from our house, we hear the
High School band practicing outdoors several miles over the ridge in Chimacum.
Like many of our neighbors, we chose our rural properties for the potential of privacy and quiet. Other
than lawn mowers, chainsaws after a storm, or occasional outdoor gatherings, we enjoy a fair amount of
quiet. We pay for that in the labor of upkeep on our properties and in the taxes we contribute to
support our communities. We want to have a strong community, but also to enjoy the rural lives we’ve
built here. What happens if the current business model of Pomona Woods fails and the owner decides
on a more raucous recreational business? What happens if the property is sold? Is a new owner free to
run any kind of commercial venue on the property? Is this the best use of our rural land?
Thank you for listening. We hope that you will take these concerns into consideration to make the best
decision for our community, one that preserves the residential rural nature for all of us who already call
it home. Please call us if you have questions about these comments. 360-774-1464
Jan and Dave Quick
3186 Oak Bay Rd.
Port Hadlock, WA
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Amanda Hunt
From:D. Beaton <DFBeaton-AGTA@msn.com>
Sent:Wednesday, September 29, 2021 3:29 PM
To:Amanda Hunt; David W. Johnson
Cc:#Long-Range Planning
Subject:Request to extend comment period, Case # ZON2021-00040
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Re: Conditional Use Permit for Parcel 921183008 & 921183002, Oak Bay Rd, Port Hadlock
Dear Ms. Hunt, Mr. Johnson, and the Jefferson County Dept of Community Development,
Upon investigation I see that inquiries and meetings about an exceptional use to this land have occurred with
the DCD since October 2020, from the previous owner and the present owner. An 8" x 11" notice (only facing
south) was posted on September 15, 2021, on the side of Oak Bay Road in a 50 mph zone, with no area to pull
over. There were also notices in the Legal Column in the subsequent Port Townsend Leader. Given the scope
and extent of exception to current land use of this project, that is not a good faith effort to communicate with
the public and the affected property owners.
Fifteen days is also an inadequate time frame for notification and comments. I request that the comment
period, set to end on September 30, 2021, be extended, so that affected property owners will have the
opportunity to investigate the proposal and its history, as well as the applicable land use code and zoning.
I also understand that the nature of the application requires a mandatory Public Hearing as indicated in
18.15.040, Table 3‐1, Category of Use C (Jefferson County Title 18 of the Unified Development Code, Article I).
Please keep me informed of all developments, announcements, meetings, hearings, etc. concerning this
proposal.
Thank you for your consideration,
Donna Beaton
PO Box 1335
Port Hadlock WA 98339
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Amanda Hunt
From:Deisy Bach <deisyishiking@gmail.com>
Sent:Wednesday, September 29, 2021 3:32 PM
To:Amanda Hunt
Subject:MLA21-00066 Comments and Request for Notice Regarding Public Notice of Type III Land Use
Application and Pending SEPA Determination
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Dear Ms. Hunt:
This letter is in response to the Notice Regarding Public Notice of Type III Land Use Application and Pending
SEPA Determination MLA21‐00066. My husband and I have a several concerns about the proposal and
request that my comments and concerns be made part of the formal recorded proceedings.
First, we oppose the use of a conditional use permit. Our neighborhood, including the property in question is
zoned for residential use. When we bought our property in 1999, we chose this location because it was quiet,
with no immediate businesses nearby. According to our research at the time, the zoning laws limited the
growth in the area. We considered Port Ludlow, and Port Townsend, but they were too busy for our plans. To
allow a business or retreat would change the dynamics of the area and could negatively influence the property
values. Commercial developments of the nature proposed by Applicant will irreparably and irreversibly
change the residential quality of our neighborhood. We would therefore like to request a public opinion
period specifically on the CUP. We also ask that you deny the conditional use permit.
We respectfully request that a full Determination of Non‐Significance under SEPA be required. Oak Bay Rd
has many issues which were not addressed by the various reports submitted. We have unstable soil which
causes runoffs weakening the headlands. Several properties along Oak Bay have had losses of land due to
these run off. In addition, there are many homes on wells, and they are already experiencing a shortage of
water in the well. The addition of a well, feeding 35+ guests would have a huge impact on the residents. We
also have no idea what wildlife may be present in a 120‐year‐old forest. We may be disturbing or destroying
endangered species habitat.
In summary, we request that a full Determination of Non‐Significance under SEPA be required and that the
conditional use permit be denied, or at minimum include a public opinion period.
‐‐
Sincerely,
Deisy Bach
925.785.3137
deisyishiking@gmail.com
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Amanda Hunt
From:ray ammeter <ray.ammeter@hotmail.com>
Sent:Wednesday, September 29, 2021 3:51 PM
To:Amanda Hunt
Subject:Oak Bay Retreat
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Amanda,
The main concern I have is the amount of water this retreat will consume. The property owner downslope has already
experienced water shortages. My water comes from a well as all others along Oak Bay Rd South of Yarr rd. We should all
be worried about the water table and salt water intrusion. This very dry summer is an indication of our future weather
to come. In past summers we used to have rain for a few days and then sunny for a day or two. Now we are
experiencing weeks of sunny warm days, then a day or two of rain.
Being a resident on Oak Bay Rd since 1979 I agree with others, this is not a good location for a commercial
development.
Please do not make an exception to our zoning for this development.
Sincerely,
Ray Ammeter
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Amanda Hunt
From:Brent Butler
Sent:Thursday, September 30, 2021 10:52 AM
To:bertl@cablespeed.com
Cc:Amanda Hunt
Subject:RE: Opposition to the proposed MLA21-000066 Pomona Woods LLC project on Oak Bay Road, Port
Hadlock
Attachments:2021-9-27 Pomona Woods letter .pdf; CONCERNED CITIZENS-Pomona Woods LLC-09-29-2021.pdf
Dear Bert Loomis:
Please be aware that public comment should be sent to the assigned planner, AHunt@co.jefferson.wa.us who
is cc’d this message or sent regular mail postage prepaid to the Community Development Department, 621
Sheridan Street, Port Townsend, WA 9836 prior to the close of the public comment period. I’ve also attached a
direct link to the application materials
https://test.co.jefferson.wa.us/WebLinkExternal/0/doc/2690354/Page1.aspx and include links to guidance
below.
How to Effectively Comment
https://www.seattle.gov/sdci/permits/comment‐on‐a‐project
https://wasco2040.com/2020/06/24/how‐to‐provide‐comment‐on‐land‐use‐matters/
The general public has two times to provide comment on this project. First, the public can submit comment
during the open public comment period before the staff report is written. Second, the public can provide
comment at the public hearing. In advance of the public hearing, staff analysis, conclusions and
recommendations contained in the staff report and accompanying attachments are available.
Warm regards,
Brent
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Brent Butler, Director
Jefferson County
Community Development Department
621 Sheridan Street,
Port Townsend, Washington 98368
https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/586/Public‐Notices
Permit
Number MLA21-000066
Applicant Pomona Woods LLC
Postal
District
Port Hadlock
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Parcel
Number
921183008 & 921183002
Project
Description
CONDITONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN SMALL-SCALE TOURIST RECREATION
USE RETREAT CENTER - Pomona Woods LLC proposes to construct a
commercial, small-scale tourist retreat center (“Pomona Woods”) along Oak Bay
Road in Port Hadlock, Washington. The Pomona Woods Retreat Center would
accommodate guest reservations for group activities such as yoga retreats,
business group retreats, and corporate or not-for-profit strategic planning. Rooms
would not be reserved for individual guests. The 7,355 square foot Pomona Woods
Retreat Center proposes twenty-four rooms, a commercial kitchen to serve guests
three meals a day, and would accommodate a maximum of thirty-five guests and
seven employees. A caretaker residence (for two on-site caretakers), septic
system, parking lot, lawn area, two access roads, and one entrance sign are also
proposed to serve the retreat center. The proposal would create 43,607 square feet
of new impervious surface. All work would be conducted on a vacant, heavily
forested property. There is a Coastal Saltwater Intrusion Protection Zone located on
the property. No other critical areas are located on the property. The applicant has
submitted a SEPA Environmental Checklist, Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan,
Custom Soil Resource Report, and Geotechnical Report in conjunction with the
Conditional Use (Type III) Permit application. The proposal is subject to review
under the State Environmental Policy Act (SEPA).
Notice Date September 15th, 2021
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Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 7:01 PM
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Subject: Opposition to the proposed MLA21‐000066 Pomona Woods LLC project on Oak Bay Road, Port Hadlock
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All,
I am vehemently opposed to the Pomona Woods LLC Development, for the reasons
outlined in the attached documents.
This kind of development should be located within a Master Planned Resort [MPR] like
Port Ludlow. It has the zoning and infrastructure in place [water & sewer] to
accommodate a project of this size.
To consider a Conditional Use Permit for a project of this size, in rural Port Hadlock, defies
zoning logic.
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I will be following this application very closely.
Bert Loomis
235 Edgewood Dr.
Port Ludlow, WA 98365
bertl@cablespeed.com
360-437-0901
To the Jefferson County Dept of Community Development, Development Review Division:
Re: Parcels #921183008 & 921183002 Conditional Use Permit for a Small-Scale Tourist Recreation Use
Retreat Center on Oak Bay Road
We are submitting our comments on the proposed development of this property By Pomona woods LLC.
We have been property owners at 3186 Oak Bay since 2004 and have lived on our property for the last
12 years. We are six parcels to the south of the proposed development.
Our experience building and living here over the last decade gives us some concerns about the proposed
Pomona Woods Retreat Center and its potential impact to the area.
Our primary concern is the continued availability of adequate potable water for the existing wells on
properties near this proposed development.
Our house, like many on the west side of Oak Bay, is sited high on the ridge closer to the western end of
the property which borders commercial forests. The proposed Pomona Woods structures would be
similarly sited on its parcel. We share a 204 ft. deep well with the neighbors south of us. The well head is
located on their parcel, the pumphouse/storage tanks on ours. The well serves four people in total over
ten acres. During the wet season, the well pump draws enough water to fill our reserve tanks and keep
up with normal usage. In the drier summer months, the volume typically slows down but has been
adequate until recent years.
Over the last several years, we’ve experienced repeated water shortages in the summer months when
the pump cannot pull enough water to keep our tanks filled. We must constantly monitor our water
usage and sometimes cut back on garden watering, laundry or showers and other normal use to allow
our system to recharge. We have water saving appliances, low flow toilets and always let lawn our areas
go dormant. We use water conservation methods for our vegetable gardens and landscape plants. The
drought of this summer was especially challenging, and we have heard from others in the area that their
wells are also stressed in the summer months.
The proposed retreat center will likely be most active precisely at the time of year when our local wells
are already most stressed. Surely the proposed commercial kitchen, large vegetable garden, and up to
30 guests needing showers, bathrooms, and clean bed linens has the potential to over burden the local
aquifer even more. What happens if this project is built, and our wells begin to fail? Is there any
recourse for established properties if they become unlivable for lack of water?
A second issue is the petition to change the zoning of these parcels to allow for commercial use in a
residential area.
Currently the east parcel is zoned RR1:5 and steep heavily wooded west parcel is zoned RR1:20. As we
understand it, that would be allow for one residence on each property, consistent with what exists in
the surrounding area. Changing the zoning to allow for commercial use in a residential area seems an
arbitrary choice that benefits only the landowner wishing to turn this property into a commercial
venture. It would serve groups of people mainly from outside the community who can afford to rent the
whole facility, but not the general community it resides in. What real benefit does this project bring to
our community? Does it loosen the zoning codes to allow a cascade of non-residential uses outside the
Urban Growth Areas?
A third problem is the potential for increased disruption and traffic on Oak Bay Road and noise
coming from the construction and operation of the facility.
During the construction, there will likely be periodic obstruction to traffic along Oak Bay Road. Until the
road is built, trailers hauling large equipment will need to off-loaded at the edge of Oak Bay Rd. To clear
the way for the driveway, logging and brush cutting will add more noise and traffic. Installing a septic
system to accommodate a 30- guest building will mean more digging, trenching and re-grading than
would a typical home sized system. Trucks delivering building materials, construction workers’ vehicles,
and the noise of construction will bring months of early morning noise to the close-in neighbors,
possibly much longer due to the scale and complexity of this building project.
To operate the retreat facility, there will be inevitable traffic of retreat attendees, employees and
delivery trucks coming and going from the property. Once established, there may be light pollution
coming from guests' windows, the parking areas and outdoor lights. The driveway may need more
outdoor lighting for visitors who don’t know the terrain, than for a homeowner who drives it regularly. If
the retreat center operates year-round, the driveway will need regular maintenance to keep it clear of
leaves, fallen trees, branches and snow. A gravel road will need regrading periodically to deal with
erosion, runoff and subsidence as the roadbed ages or is scaped too thin by a snowplow. (We know this
from 7 years of living on a long, steep gravel road in a previous home.)
During retreat events, it is likely that outdoor noise will reach the nearby neighbors. Even if the proposal
states that no outdoor amplification will be allowed, do we have any assurance that this promise will
always be enforced? People away from home tend to be noisy outdoors and people in groups even
more so. And sounds carry surprisingly well along this slope. Sometimes from our house, we hear the
High School band practicing outdoors several miles over the ridge in Chimacum.
Like many of our neighbors, we chose our rural properties for the potential of privacy and quiet. Other
than lawn mowers, chainsaws after a storm, or occasional outdoor gatherings, we enjoy a fair amount of
quiet. We pay for that in the labor of upkeep on our properties and in the taxes we contribute to
support our communities. We want to have a strong community, but also to enjoy the rural lives we’ve
built here. What happens if the current business model of Pomona Woods fails and the owner decides
on a more raucous recreational business? What happens if the property is sold? Is a new owner free to
run any kind of commercial venue on the property? Is this the best use of our rural land?
Thank you for listening. We hope that you will take these concerns into consideration to make the best
decision for our community, one that preserves the residential rural nature for all of us who already call
it home. Please call us if you have questions about these comments. 360-774-1464
Jan and Dave Quick
3186 Oak Bay Rd.
Port Hadlock, WA
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CONCERNED CITIZENS
PERMIT NUMBER: MLA21-000066
APPLICANT: POMONA WOODS LLC
POSTAL DISTRICT: PORT HADLOCK
PARCEL NUMBERS: 921183008 AND 921183002
PROJECT DESCRIPTION and PERMIT APPLICATION TYPE:
Conditional Use Permit (CUP) Type III permit application for a small-scale
tourist recreation use retreat center.
SEPA Environmental Review: The optional Determination of Non-
Significance (DNS) process of SEPA, Washington Administrative Code
(WAC) 197-11-355 is being used.
CITIZENS CONCERNS AND OBJECTIONS
• The DNS process of SEPA is not sufficient for a development of this
size and the impact on the neighboring areas along Oak Bay Road
and Old Oak Bay Road
• The DNS process is not adequate, the review of geologic and custom
soil resource reports does not address or reference or analysis the
known instability and land subsidence issues
• How does a development of this size and impact become a
consideration for approval in an Urban Growth Area?
• How does the size of this project qualify in a designated Urban
Growth Area?
• Objection of rezoning to commercial zoning in a residential zoned
neighborhood
• An additional Conference Center is not needed or necessary in our
community, there are 5 existing Conference Centers in an
approximately 15-mile radius
• The additional water usage depleting the water aquafer will add to the
already existing drought concerns. Several residents in this close
proximity are experiencing shortage of water in their wells and dry
wells.
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• The existing significant logging of trees in the area of this project
presents for landslides, the additional removal of trees for this project
supports the strong possibility of landslides and impacts the safety of
our residential neighborhood
• Water runoff and drainage
• Adequate supply of potable water, this neighborhood have been
experiencing water shortages. This property is not on public water or
sewer, with projected draught danger increasing year to year, where
will the water come from?
• Pumping of water in a coastal freshwater well can substantially
increase the risk of salt water intrusion.
• Wetlands, blueline streams
• Old growth trees
• Logging on Rainier Land directly behind this development and to the
north of this development, this increases the destruction to the
currently healthy ecosystem
• The proposed location of the parking lot is in an environmentally
sensitive area
• Ingress and egress
• Increased traffic, burglary, and accidents, sound and light in
residential neighborhoods on Oak Bay Road
• Impact on wildlife due to loss of habitat includes, but is not limited to,
spotted owls, eagles, bears, deer, Canadian Geese, California
Wolverine, Olympic Torrent, Salamander, Van Dykes salamander, big
eared bats, frogs, and the western toad
• Pollution from the increase of traffic in a residential neighborhood, air
quality, noise pollution, as well as facility light pollution and run off
• Health concerns regarding Covid and the new virus from bring people
in our retirement community from other states and cities
• Decline in property values
• What happens to the neighborhood area if the Conference
Center/Retreat fails?
The above mentioned are valid concerns and impacts to our residential
neighborhood, we all purchased our homes with the promise of a
beautifully wooded forest residential zoned area, this project has an
extreme impact on our resident investments
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In light of the existing economy, there are a lot of empty buildings, where
businesses have failed during this difficult time. There are numerous
existing studios and facilities trying to recover business and need rentals
like this new facility is planning to provide. One more same or like facility to
compete for business will only put the existing businesses in a financial
jeopardy. W need to support our existing neighboring studios, fort
communities, and arts facilities and businesses to keep them solvent.
If this organization proposing this commercial development in our quiet,
wooded residential neighborhood feels strongly about helping humanity
with a retreat, they should sponsor or provide financial support to those
struggling with the existing facilities in our community.
The listed concerns and objections and the DNS not providing a sufficient
report to cover all of our concerns, We request an Environmental Impact
Report be prepared as a resolution to our concerns
We also request that no exception be made to the rezoning of Oak
Bay Road to a commercial zone and that the Planning Commission
reject the Conditional Use Permit
SEE ATTACHED SIGNATURES OF CONCERNED CITIZENS IN
OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL ZONED TOURIST
RECREATION USE RETREAT CENTER
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Amanda Hunt
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Sent:Thursday, September 30, 2021 11:29 AM
To:Kate Dean; Heidi Eisenhour; Greg Brotherton; Amanda Hunt
Subject:07- BUILDING PLANS.pdf
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I request that you open these plans and take a hard look. Ann Burkhart is planning on constructing a commercial
driveway inches from my property, on a heavily eroded piece of land. There will be constant noise, light pollution and a
total loss of privacy, not to mention the risk of land loss and polluted runoff.She is clearly acting in a purely self serving
way without any regards to existing land use or her neighbors. The sheer size of this development, the impervious
surfaces, the glass exterior, the placement of her driveway and parking lot are clear indications that she has no intention
of trying to assimilate into the existing environment. Instead, she is willing to destroy the quiet, peaceful RURAL living
we all have a right to expect. Would you want this monstrosity in an old growth forest next to you??? It definitely is NOT
in nature with intended land use for this rural NEIGHBORHOOD!
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Amanda Hunt
From:D. Beaton <dfbeaton-agta@msn.com>
Sent:Thursday, September 30, 2021 1:48 PM
To:Amanda Hunt
Cc:#Long-Range Planning; David W. Johnson
Subject:Conditional Use Permit for Parcel 921183008 & 921183002, Oak Bay Rd, Port Hadlock; Case #
ZON2021-00040
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To Ms. Hunt and the Jefferson County Dept. Of Community Development:
After doing some research of the case and reading the property owners’ argument for approval, the area is not Zoned
for that type of improvement – the area considered for this purported retreat is Zoned RR‐20, which means to allow
ONLY development of rural residential dwellings of One Unit per 20 Acres of land. See excerpt from the Jefferson CDO
Zoning Code ‐
(c) Rural Residential 1 Unit/20 Acres (RR 1:20). The purpose of this district is to provide a buffer in areas
adjacent to UGAs (Urban Growth Areas) and designated forest and agricultural lands of long‐term commercial
significance, as well as protecting areas identified as possessing area‐wide environmental features which
constrain development such as shoreline areas or areas of steep and unstable slopes. The district also protects
land from premature conversion to higher residential densities prior to an established need.
It is clear that the new property owners are enchanted by character of the area that has been protected and preserved
by current zoning, but in the self‐interest of the proposed development and change of land use, will begin the process of
destroying that character.
The physical ramifications of having a 30 residential room building, along with a larger capacity for day use and dining
are well beyond the RR20 and RR5 designations for the neighborhood. The septic system, while physically possible with
technology, will go well beyond what is expected for a Rural Residential area. The water retrieval & use will far exceed
what is expected in RR20 which is also in a sensitive Saltwater Intrusion Protection Zone. Increased traffic and noise, the
loss of contiguous pathways allowed for native flora and fauna, are just a few of the other outsized impacts of this
proposal.
In addition, the nature of having a transient population negatively impacts the character and value of the area.
Transients (tourists, short term renters, students, etc) who are not invested in a community do not have a positive
impact on the community or character of an area. Many urban planning studies support this.
Though the proposal describes a business geared to gentle spiritual yogis, carpooling, noise restrictions, and users
staying on property, none of that can be guaranteed. If a developed property exists that is able to house, feed, and
accommodate the waste needs of 30+ residents, there is a high probability that it will end up being something else if the
current intended use fails. This does not imply that the current property owner is being deceptive in the request for a
conditional use permit.
This development proposal is suited for areas zoned as Rural Commercial, NOT Rural Residential.
As a resident within a half‐mile of this property, I oppose the Conditional Use Permit, and I oppose any change in the
zoning of the referenced properties.
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Please keep me informed of the public hearing.
Thank you for your consideration,
Donna Beaton
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Amanda Hunt
From:GOODWIN, ROSS (DNR) <ROSS.GOODWIN@dnr.wa.gov>
Sent:Thursday, September 16, 2021 3:55 PM
To:Amanda Hunt
Cc:ALLISON, TED (DNR)
Subject:DNR Comment MLA21-00066 Pomona Woods LLC
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Good afternoon Amanda,
I would like to comment on the proposed Pomona Woods LLC development off Oak Bay Road in Jefferson County
(parcels 921183008 and 002). I have read the SEPA Checklist and other associated documents and it appears the project
will be constructing approximately 1800 feet of road and clearing areas for buildings and parking on an existing forested
vacant parcel.
It appears given the length of road and the amount of clearing, that an approved Class IV‐General Forest Practice
Application/Notification (FPA/N) will most likely be needed for this activity. The applicant should contact Olympic
Region Forest Practice staff to see what will be required. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Regards,
Ross Goodwin
Forest Practice Forester
Olympic Region
Washington State Department of Natural Resources
360‐460‐0900
ross.goodwin@dnr.wa.gov
STATE OF WASHINGTON
DEPARTMENT OF ECOLOGY
PO Box 47775 Olympia, Washington 98504-7775 (360) 407-6300
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September 30, 2021 Amanda Hunt, Project Planner Jefferson County Community Development Department 621 Sheridan Street Port Townsend, WA 98368 Dear Amanda Hunt: Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the optional determination of nonsignificance/notice of application for the Ponoma Woods Retreat Center Project (MLA21-00066) as proposed by Pomona Woods LLC. The Department of Ecology (Ecology) reviewed the environmental checklist and has the following comment(s): SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT: Derek Rockett (360) 407-6287 All grading and filling of land must utilize only clean fill. All other materials may be considered solid waste and permit approval may be required from the local jurisdictional health department prior to filling. All removed debris resulting from this project must be disposed of at an approved site. Contact the local jurisdictional health department for proper management of these materials. WATER QUALITY/WATERSHED RESOURCES UNIT: Jessica Eakens (360) 407-0246 Erosion control measures must be in place prior to any clearing, grading, or construction. These control measures must be effective to prevent stormwater runoff from carrying soil and other pollutants into surface water or stormdrains that lead to waters of the state. Sand, silt, clay particles, and soil will damage aquatic habitat and are considered to be pollutants. Any discharge of sediment-laden runoff or other pollutants to waters of the state is in violation of Chapter 90.48 RCW, Water Pollution Control, and WAC 173-201A, Water Quality Standards for Surface Waters of the State of Washington, and is subject to enforcement action. Construction Stormwater General Permit: The following construction activities require coverage under the Construction Stormwater General Permit: 1. Clearing, grading and/or excavation that results in the disturbance of one or more acres and discharges stormwater to surface waters of the State; and
Amanda Hunt September 30, 2021 Page 2 2. Clearing, grading and/or excavation on sites smaller than one acre that are part of a larger common plan of development or sale, if the common plan of development or sale will ultimately disturb one acre or more and discharge stormwater to surface waters of the State. a) This includes forest practices (including, but not limited to, class IV conversions) that are part of a construction activity that will result in the disturbance of one or more acres, and discharge to surface waters of the State; and 3. Any size construction activity discharging stormwater to waters of the State that Ecology: a) Determines to be a significant contributor of pollutants to waters of the State of Washington. b) Reasonably expects to cause a violation of any water quality standard. If there are known soil/ground water contaminants present on-site, additional information (including, but not limited to: temporary erosion and sediment control plans; stormwater pollution prevention plan; list of known contaminants with concentrations and depths found; a site map depicting the sample location(s); and additional studies/reports regarding contaminant(s)) will be required to be submitted. For additional information on contaminated construction sites, please contact Carol Serdar at Carol.Serdar@ecy.wa.gov, or by phone at (360) 742-9751. Additionally, sites that discharge to segments of waterbodies listed as impaired by the State of Washington under Section 303(d) of the Clean Water Act for turbidity, fine sediment, high pH, or phosphorous, or to waterbodies covered by a TMDL may need to meet additional sampling and record keeping requirements. See condition S8 of the Construction Stormwater General Permit for a description of these requirements. To see if your site discharges to a TMDL or 303(d)-listed waterbody, use Ecology’s Water Quality Atlas at: https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/waterqualityatlas/StartPage.aspx. The applicant may apply online or obtain an application from Ecology's website at: http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/wq/stormwater/construction/ - Application. Construction site operators must apply for a permit at least 60 days prior to discharging stormwater from construction activities and must submit it on or before the date of the first public notice. Ecology’s comments are based upon information provided by the lead agency. As such, they may not constitute an exhaustive list of the various authorizations that must be obtained or legal requirements that must be fulfilled in order to carry out the proposed action. If you have any questions or would like to respond to these comments, please contact the appropriate reviewing staff listed above. Department of Ecology Southwest Regional Office (GMP:202105004) cc: Derek Rockett, SWM Jessica Eakens, WQ