HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:38:26 going to break down barriers. improve communication. Board of Health meeting, I would say, too, we
09:38:33 We did approve our bylaws, updated our bylaws
09:38:40 To expand the scope of the board is required by house bill 1152 last year, and feel like we landed on a good set of of changes. We didn't have a lot of changing to do because
we were already one of the
09:38:53 more diverse boards of health in the State. But glad we got through that piece of work.
09:39:01 Freddy Morning had a meeting with John morrow from the City.
09:39:05 He's been very helpful in scoping out and planning the meeting with the usda world development.
09:39:12 Same with meeting with Jefferson healthcare on that same topic.
09:39:18 Oh, Had a meeting on Friday with the maritime Washington National heritage area.
09:39:24 We completed and approved the management plan for the heritage area.
09:39:30 So it has to go to Dc. now to Department of Interior, and go through a number of other approval processes.
09:39:36 But exciting. That was 2 years of hard work getting that finished and trying to be as inclusive as possible, and pretty massive changes from where we started to where it ended
up in terms of promotion of tourism and instead right
09:39:50 sizing that and also what we call decolonizing our maritime stories that you know me think about in the last 2 years that we did a lot of this work.
09:40:01 You know a lot of attention being given to who stories are we telling?
09:40:06 And how are we grappling with the history of maritime Washington?
09:40:10 So change the lens of that quite a bit Let's see, ended my week playing basketball with olympic neighbors out of the courthouse.
09:40:23 Ports here, and that was really great. so that organization works with development only to disabled youth and adults.
09:40:32 And was the highlight of my week getting to play basketball with those folks and just incredible to see people who are so skilled that working with popular with integrity.
09:40:45 And I was really inspired. It was really heart warming.
09:40:47 I tried to get to the chimicum exhibit on Saturday, which I there's only one more opportunity at the end of May to see it. but I couldn't tear myself out of the garden it was
too.
09:40:59 Nice a day on Saturday to leave in the middle of the day, so i'll make myself go in May and i'm sorry I haven't seen it yet.
09:41:06 It sounds pretty incredible. Oh, that was my week and realizing that we didn't give each other updates last week about before. So , i'm gonna just update you guys in a few categories
of work that i'm
09:41:22 doing, cause it's span both weeks one thing I Don't think I've had a chance to mention is as part of my role on being the chair of the behavioral health advisory committee.
09:41:32 We are distributing a supplemental grant round to all of our vendors, including the school districts, which gets $7,000, an additional funding for each school district for school
based mental health.
09:41:45 So just so, you know. So you can in your conversations with your school district colleagues say what's figured that excess revenue still working on Trailhead Park met with
09:42:01 Brian tracer out there to confirm that the ingress, egress.
09:42:06 Assumptions that we were making were correct, and they are.
09:42:11 And yeah, another work party is being scheduled or organized out there by that country horseman under the the keen eyes of our Jeff Chapman, so grateful for his partnership
out there And then also, working with some other
09:42:24 landowners to get some more fire mitigation.
09:42:31 Fire breaks in place, and the like I've been working a lot coming out of our letter to Dnr.
09:42:40 The Board of Natural Resources about Fever Valley sorts we have a workshop scheduled for the sixteenth of May for us, and in preparation for that I've been working with dnr
and other partners to
09:42:58 understand a number of implications that we need to explore and discuss, but those include working with the junior taxing district.
09:43:07 So far i've just worked with the gymicum school district, doing a deep dive on understanding the implications of both that timber sale and past timber sales on the school, district,
and so also working with
09:43:21 treasure praeta, and to get a sense of of that that revenue flow over time.
09:43:28 So, looking back about 10 years, and understanding how funds from State Force Trust lands have affected various junior taxing districts in the county, so we'll be able to present
that information.
09:43:42 Are you talking to the junior taxing districts too, about how they use that revenue, how they budget that Yeah.
09:43:55 And so far that's what I was saying with school, Bill Rick I. I.
09:43:56 Kind of went down the route hole with Tim from school district so far, but I need to reach out to Portland decided I was just going to look at the taxing districts affected
by Beaver Valley source, because what i'm our
09:44:02 understanding now is, If I looked at a many timber sales, it would be a full time job but also in in doing the analysis with stacy of the revenue implications of that timber
sale, it goes a lot
09:44:16 farther than just school and fire districts. so also needing to talk to Monty about the impact on the roads.
09:44:24 And so what i've decided is to look at the top 5 potential revenue earners from that timber sale and have conversations with each of them.
09:44:32 So so far I've gotten through one but general fun is probably one of the top ones, too.
09:44:40 So general fund road. schools schools fire, and then I don't know what the there's There's a bunch There are a bunch I I haven't sorted done the sort yet.
09:44:54 I I did think it was interesting. Hearing about President Biden's visit to Seattle . on Friday that the piece of legislation they signed was about .
09:45:05 Incorporating carbon calculations in Federal lands management. Oh, wait! We're working on a carbon calculus .
09:45:16 We're gonna use our . So anyway. that's That's a lot of the work, and then I am.
09:45:25 I see we're at 9 45 i'll just say that Angus Brodie is taking a break for some health issues.
09:45:30 So Dwayne Emans is standing in for him for the time being, and they'll be working more closely with him going forward.
09:45:37 And so that's about a quarter of my update for you guys.
09:45:42 But we need to invite our beloved Dr.
09:45:45 Barry over, and our beloved willie benson he's there, and I just wanna say that we're hoping to end this update a little bit early because we have an important update from the
auditor and mark about the
09:45:58 audit findings. Well, thank you so much for having me.
09:46:04 That should be very possible. we don't have a a ton to go over today.
09:46:09 So, looking at the covid 19 situation nationally we're containing continuing to see cases rise cases are up 50% in the last 2 weeks in the nation as a whole, led primarily by
the northeast but we're
09:46:22 seeing case rises across the country. Hospitalizations are roughly stable.
09:46:28 At this point deaths are continuing to down trend.
09:46:31 Those are a leader finding, but we are continuing to see over 300 people in the United States die every day which is much down from our peak, but so much higher than anything
we've ever seen from a standard influenza season in our
09:46:45 country just over 990,000 Americans have lost their lives due to COVID-19 in Washington State.
09:46:53 We are also seeing cases rise, led primarily by the west end of the State.
09:46:57 At this point That's been the trend that we've been seeing with the Omaha crown variant.
09:47:03 It's tended to start on the west side and then spread to the East Side, and so we're seeing you know Seattle King County pierce County stomach county area really leading we're
seeing case rates
09:47:14 upwards of 400 in those regions. in Jefferson County.
09:47:19 We are unfortunately also seeing our case. rates. rise similar to What we're seeing upon the water. So in Jefferson County our current total diagnosed cases is 3,398.
09:47:32 That puts our case rate at 357 per 100,000.
09:47:35 So certainly well within the high risk range, where we recommend masking in indoor spaces.
09:47:41 Our percent positivity is also rising it's up to 9%.
09:47:44 So we do think this is a genuine rising cases that we are catching.
09:47:48 We currently have no one hospitalized for COVID-19.
09:47:51 We did have someone hospitalized for the end of last week, but they have already discharged as of today.
09:47:58 That person was unvaccinated, but blessedly hospitalized for a relatively short period of time.
09:48:02 We've had no additional deaths. in our county so the death tool from COVID-19 stands at 28 in Jefferson County, in neighboring Cloudland County.
09:48:11 I haven't gotten the total numbers yet today. but our case rate as a Friday was 139 per 1,000, and we, as we've discussed before we do think there's a bit of a case ascertainment
difference between
09:48:21 the counties because of the really excellent reporting of home testing that we're getting in Jefferson.
09:48:27 But we have seeing more reporting in Cleveland County as well in Jefferson.
09:48:33 About 70 to 90% of our cases reported our home antigen tests in Cloudland County about 30%.
09:48:37 Our home antigen test at this point our percent positivity in cloud is a little lower, though it's 5%
09:48:44 And so we do think that Jefferson currently is actually experiencing a little more transmission than we're seeing in cloud and consistent with kind of a lot of things are starting
in the I 5 quarter and then, moving West So we
09:48:55 anticipate that we're likely to see that level of transmission in cloud, too.
09:49:00 But just a little bit later, currently where we're seeing cases we do have 2 small clusters in our schools, both numbering 3 cases each.
09:49:07 Related to largely unmasking in classroom settings we're working very closely with the schools in those settings those requiring things like frequent testing masking for the
kids in the exposed classrooms and so far
09:49:20 we haven't seen any further spread within the school system beyond that most trace. initially to family exposures, or, in one case, a birthday party exposure that then kind
of trickled over into the classroom setting we
09:49:36 do have one long term care facility affected in Jefferson County now, and one in Cloudham County, as well. So far we've not seen any severe disease related to those outbreaks.
09:49:47 We've been able to get a hold of them relatively quickly and start treatment on the exposed residents, who are all well vaccinated and boosted.
09:49:53 So we are hopeful that we're not going to see severe disease out of those outbreaks, and we'll be able to control them sooner rather than later.
09:50:01 So at this point we are in the high transmission risk categories.
09:50:05 We do recommend masking in indoor settings as we've discussed on this program before the primary trigger.
09:50:11 To move to mandatory masking would be if we saw a rise in severe disease, in hospitalsization and death.
09:50:17 And so far we are not seeing that we're not seeing that here we're also not seeing it yet in other parts of the United States.
09:50:23 We're watching that very closely we have seen the drop in hospitalization.
09:50:27 We were seeing before plateau, which can sometimes come before a rise in other parts of the country.
09:50:31 But we've not seen that yet. and so that's really the data point that we're watching most closely. And so with that that is my updates for today. any questions from our commissioners
any questions I don't i don't either.
09:50:55 we're we're getting good at this Well, I have one, and it's just to maybe this spell bonfire rumors.
09:50:59 But So my sound member of my family was reported that she was talking with some local doctors who reported that that effectiveness of the booster on the current variance is
only 6 to 8 weeks.
09:51:16 Hmm! I check that with you. Get Dr. Barry sure.
09:51:19 So whenever you talk about effectiveness, it really matters effectiveness against what so effectiveness against severe disease, hospitals and death has continued to be excellent.
09:51:32 And that's last month and months many of us received our booster.
09:51:35 Many months ago, and we're. still seeing excellent protection against that what they're probably talking about more there is the additional beneficial effect of a fourth dose.
09:51:45 The second booster at preventing any disease at all.
09:51:47 What we do see in those cases is the fourth dose of the second booster does decrease your risk of any disease, any Covid disease at all.
09:51:57 For actually about 4 weeks, so that even shorter period of time
09:52:01 But it doesn't dramatically change the prevention against severe disease.
09:52:05 Beyond that 4 weeks, and so that's why we haven't pushed the fourth booster that much but your current booster, the one you're working with is still providing excellent protection
against everything else, and so a lot of it
09:52:15 really just comes down. To what kind of effectiveness are we shooting?
09:52:19 For what kind of effectiveness are we discussing?
09:52:23 And I would say at this point the vaccines that we have available, can't prevent all infection.
09:52:27 They cannot make it so that it's 100% you don't get Covid.
09:52:30 They all still reduce your risk of getting code and they dramatically reduce your risk of getting very sick and dying from Covid.
09:52:37 And that's really the primary thing we need them to do so that we can transition Covid to the kind of milder andemic virus that we're all hoping it will become the way we do
that is
09:52:47 by getting back needed. The virus won't do it for us but getting vaccinated gets us much closer.
09:52:54 Great good clarification, thank you thank you and that I should say, that's something you'll often see in headlines, too, is so.
09:53:02 If you ever see something, say something about vaccine effect on this.
09:53:06 Always make sure you look for the next line. which is against what if it's against all disease. ever.
09:53:11 Yeah, they do still decrease your risk of that but they don't make it 0.
09:53:17 But against severe disease, the really bad thing we need to prevent.
09:53:19 Very, very good against that so Dr. gray if that's the case. then you know, for those of us who haven't contracted Covid.
09:53:31 Well, I guess we don't know the the length of immunity that a previous case provides you know, is, is is this kind of the where we're in the question of should there be a mask
mandate again because
09:53:42 if indeed we're not seeing severe disease increase How much should we be, you know, actively working to prevent it.
09:53:54 You know there are people who have said everybody's gonna get it eventually just get it.
09:53:57 And what what's the the current response to that so we do actually know a lot about the immunity provided from prior infection.
09:54:06 And what we're seeing is prevention against severe disease and so prevention against getting infected at all from prior infection.
09:54:14 Last about 90 days prevention against severe disease actually doesn't last that much longer.
09:54:18 So we're seeing prevention against severe disease last a period of months, and then fade.
09:54:23 If you don't go on to get vaccinated from a prior infection.
09:54:27 And so for those who have gotten intoected with covid have not gotten vaccinated, yet it's really important to get vaccinated, so that you can have that persistent immunity.
one of the you know many
09:54:38 destructive myths that we hear right now is that getting covid once provides you lifetime immunity. And that's just not true what we are seeing when we look at databases of
hospitalization and death from
09:54:50 Covid. we're seeing it and reinfected people, and in relatively high rates, when you get beyond that 90 day threshold.
09:54:57 So it really matters to get backinated if you've had a prior section.
09:55:00 If you've had a breakthrough infection on top of getting vaccinated.
09:55:05 You are pretty well protected that's basically the equivalent of 4 doses, and you get kind of a broader immune response.
09:55:11 But I don't recommend anyone kind of go out in search of getting covid primary reason for that is we, even though you're vaccinated and posted it's not it's never a 100% that
09:55:23 you're that everything's going to be fine if you get Covid.
09:55:27 And most importantly, you you almost none of us I don't think any of us can make sure we don't affect other people.
09:55:34 Because we can transmit before we have symptoms we can transmit. when we have mild symptoms.
09:55:39 We all are around a lot of people, and so they risk from contracting.
09:55:43 Covid yourself is prematurely giving it to someone else who would die.
09:55:48 And we don't want to do that and I think it is important to remember.
09:55:50 We still have people in our community who cannot fully respond to their vaccine.
09:55:54 We have a Muno suppressed people and they walk up on this.
09:55:56 They live with us. They're our neighbors and we have small children who have not yet been vaccinated, and the highest risk of hospitalization and death in kids is kids under
5 who have not yet had the opportunity to get backinated,
09:56:09 and so I think this idea that like oh, well we're all vaccinated.
09:56:12 Now often forgets 2 key components of our community that we do still need to thank you, and i'm really playing devils at advocate. I I suspected that I I appreciate the opportunity
to talk about it because I get these
09:56:26 questions, too, and I I understand where they come from you know You'll see newspaper articles about how like mixed immunity is the way to go, and so I definitely have had you
know responsible intelligent folks asked me like should I just get
09:56:38 Covid, and if you really could get it, and not give it to anyone else, You live in a full bubble and somehow get Covid then, maybe.
09:56:46 But that's just not how it works you always infect other people, and some of those people can get very sick and die.
09:56:53 Thank you all right. Well, I know you guys. are at a time crunch. So i'll go ahead and move forward with kptz questions if we don't have any others. So one person asked an interesting
question. that Now that we're
09:57:08 in the high risk. stage can, I or the Health Department require a business supposed to sign that?
09:57:15 Says Masks strongly recommended and we can. Yeah, we can require that.
09:57:20 My problem is to do so by communication first, rather than requiring. And I think what this question really highlights is that, now is a good time for us to do a direct outreach
to our business community make sure They have
09:57:32 access to signs that say mass strongly recommended, and have education on where our current case status is. For those of us who listen to this program who follow this very closely.
09:57:43 It can be surprising that anyone in our community doesn't know we're in the high risk category.
09:57:48 But many people don't and so I think that just really highlights the communication need on our end.
09:57:53 Just make that outreach. make sure our businesses have those signs.
09:57:56 Encourage them to post them, so that all of our community knows that right now in Jefferson County we really recommend you put on a mask in any indoor setting that you go. So
that will be one of our to do this week is
09:58:09 really focus on that work. One person says a friend of mine got Covid last weekend at a local busy bar, he said, as soon as he tests negative, he is going back to the same place,
because having Covid makes him
09:58:22 immune for 4 months. Is that true? Can you get infected?
09:58:26 After just having had Covid so a little bit of a twist on Commissioner Dean's question.
09:58:31 But I think it's. important. to acknowledge so when we talk about indoor spaces, some indoor spaces are riskier than others.
09:58:37 And so if you're talking about tight quarter shoulder to shoulder with other unmassed people, that's a pretty high risk space, if you don't have a lot of airflow in that space.
09:58:48 As well. So that certainly is a place where Covid 19 can transmit. well.
09:58:51 If you contract covid 19 it's really important to isolate for 10 days after your symptoms started, or after your positive test, if you had no symptoms, because you can transmit
that virus to others if
09:59:05 you choose to leave isolation early, which is 5 days or later, after your symptoms started, it's really important to get a test first, make sure you're truly negative.
09:59:14 And then you do still need to mask in indoor settings for that full 10 days.
09:59:18 So say, if this if this friend wanted to go back to a bar where they plan on taking their mask off, they really need to wait until after 10 days.
09:59:26 30% of us are still contagious at day 6 and so it's really important that you not walk into a crowded bar and spread Covid among others.
09:59:37 It is true that your risk of contracting kovat is much lower after that 10 day range for up to 90 days after you've had Covid.
09:59:45 We are saying that it is unlikely that you will get reinfected in 90 days.
09:59:49 It is not 0, though, we certainly, if we had multiple cases here where people contracted Covid again after 30 days after their initial symptom onset started. So it can happen.
10:00:01 But it is less likely, so that 90 day window is pretty safe it's not 4 months, though 90 days.
10:00:07 And then after that you can definitely get Covid again.
10:00:09 So if you haven't gotten back needed please go forward and get vaccinated as well, so that you can have that longstanding immunity to protect yourself and your neighbors This
one says if you just had Covid and
10:00:22 finally testing negative, but still have symptoms. Can you infect others?
10:00:29 So great question. This is one that I do come across.
10:00:32 It is very common after a viral illness to cough for a while many of us get it's called post viral cough, where you'll cough for a couple of weeks after your virus has resolved
and it
10:00:44 can be concerning to your neighbors to see someone coughing in an indoor space.
10:00:49 You are not contagious. After 10 days after having having Covid so go.
10:00:54 From the first day you had symptoms add 10 days to that After that you're not spreading covid to others.
10:01:00 So it is safe to leave isolation after 10 days, even if you have some persistent symptoms.
10:01:05 As long as everything's improving, we do want to see your symptoms getting better, you know, fevers resolved cough getting better.
10:01:12 All those symptoms improving, and then you can leave isolation.
10:01:16 That is okay. The one caveat to that is those who are immunosuppressed.
10:01:21 Their isolation is actually 20 days, because we do see prolonged chatting a viable virus in that popular.
10:01:28 Otherwise it is okay and not uncommon to have a persistent cough or some persistent shortness of breath after Covid as well.
10:01:36 This person had a challenging experience, trying to find vaccinations for a a child under 12.
10:01:42 So a kid 5 to 11, and so I think they bring up a really good point.
10:01:45 That it's important to talk about that not all pharmacies maximize small children.
10:01:52 It takes a special qualification to vaccinate little kids and you can imagine why it's a little bit more complex to vaccinate a very small child.
10:01:59 So so try area pharmacy actually does not vaccinate kids under 12.
10:02:04 The only place in Jefferson County that vaccinates kids just for a vaccination, not for a clinic appointment, is actually Jefferson County.
10:02:11 Public health. and we are more than happy to vaccinate any kid under 12 in this county.
10:02:17 So please give us a call. We do prefer to have an appointment for kids in that age range.
10:02:22 We have a very small staff. we're often doing multiple jobs, and so we want to make sure that we can plan for those visits.
10:02:27 But if you give us a call we will get you in.
10:02:29 We really prioritize vaccination of small children because we know that's an area where it's difficult, and our numbers are low.
10:02:36 So the call we'll make sure and take care of you then, Jefferson. healthcare of course, is vaccinating small children, but they do it in appointment.
10:02:43 So when You're well, child, visits things like that otherwise ride aid, and Walmart in Kalam County, also vaccinate kids, and Omc.
10:02:53 In Cloud County. Also, backs make kids so if you need a particular day.
10:02:56 That's not a day that we offer at Jefferson County public health.
10:03:00 That can be another option. but yes, unfortunately the pharmacies in Jefferson often are not are not vaccinating.
10:03:08 Small children. but we do so come on to Jefferson County Public health, and if we see a big demand for this in a part of the county that's far away, See?
10:03:18 Demand, you know. well seen down in Britain. we are always happy to bring vaccine down there.
10:03:22 We're happy to make sure that happens and Dr. barry just to clarify when you say small children, you're talking between 5 and 12.
10:03:28 Yes, between 5 and 12 I mean we've vaccinated everybody but it's the 5 to 11 set that are not vaccinated.
10:03:36 In most pharmacies in Jefferson County.
10:03:39 Thank you for the clarification. One person asked me to define high quality masks, So I have been saying, I recommend you wear a high quality mask in indoor settings.
10:03:50 So a good reminder. High quality mask includes a Km.
10:03:54 95, Okay. f 94, or an n-* Those are really your highest quality masks in indoor settings, and particularly when you're talking lots of people in an indoor setting You know groups,
of 1020 or
10:04:05 more where you're kind of all close together that's really where you need that highest quality mask I recommend finding the one that fits your face.
10:04:12 The best that you're gonna feel comfortable keeping on for a prolonged period of time for me that's a K. in 95.
10:04:21 I could wear that all day. for some people it's a K. F*.
10:04:23 Try out, see what makes the most sense for you surgical masks also provide good protection, not quite as good as a kan 95 or kf 94.
10:04:31 But if either those don't feel good on your face and you don't feel comfortable maintaining them as surgical mask is a really good option, or certainly in smaller group settings
like like the commissioner's chambers at the
10:04:44 moment. a surgical mass can be a really good option that you have small groups of people.
10:04:48 But if that's same space had 50 people in it i'd recommend stepping up the quality of your mask, and having a higher quality mask, remember that all masks protect the people
around you but the higher quality mass protect you
10:05:03 I risk yourself, or if you're in a crowded indoor space, I would definitely recommend things like a bus where a high quality mask Gan, 95, and 95 or Kf.
10:05:13 94. let's see this person says when Dr.
10:05:19 Mayor Barry recommends masks indoors. Does that include one on ones with friends in their homes, who, I know, are completely vaccinated and boosted.
10:05:27 So good clarification. Everything is a spectrum of risk.
10:05:31 Your highest risk is very crowded. in our spaces with people you don't know because you don't know the vaccination status of those people.
10:05:39 Some of them are probably not vaccinated, and so planning for those kind of spaces is very different than how you plan for meeting your friends.
10:05:47 I meet indoors with a small group of friends. once a week. We We formed a pod a year ago, and so we still see each other indoors unmassed.
10:05:57 We feel very comfortable. I know that they're vaccinated and boosted.
10:05:59 I know their safety, how they navigate the world so I feel comfortable with them, and I know they're not gonna come see me if they've got the sniffles.
10:06:07 We all have that understanding You don't have that understanding in a crowded bar with 30 people?
10:06:12 You don't know and so that risk profile is very different.
10:06:16 So it's one on one with a friend that you know you feel confident they're not gonna expose you to things.
10:06:22 I think that's a reasonable time to unmask in an indoor setting.
10:06:24 The only carry out there is, if either of you is very high risk for one reason or another.
10:06:31 If you have a significant immuno suppression, if you are very elderly, have multiple chronic comorbidities.
10:06:37 It might be reasonable to time to try an antigen test first before you go unmassed in an indoor setting.
10:06:43 So that's another way that you can make sure and kind of add that layer protection for the highest risk folks in our community.
10:06:50 Or you can keep mess on that's another option too. and there's certainly some in our community who, just if they're indoors, want to have a mask on if other people are around
that's totally
10:06:59 reasonable, too, just depends on what is going to make you the most comfortable in that interaction.
10:07:05 This one says, I am fully vaccinated had one booster, and i'm more than happy to wear a mask for indoor events.
10:07:13 Is it safe for me to do that, knowing that most people will not be masked and may not be vaccinated.
10:07:20 Things like music, concerts, dances, church movie theaters.
10:07:24 And I would say, if you are vaccinated and boosted, we're in a high quality mask.
10:07:29 Okay. F. 94 kan 95 or N*.
10:07:32 Yes, actually, I think that's a very safe thing to do because you have good protection.
10:07:35 You have 2 really important layers of protection for yourself.
10:07:40 So I think that's a very reasonable thing to do what I wouldn't do is go into an unmassed space with just a cloth mask on cause that's not providing you enough protection when
everybody else is
10:07:50 unmassed around you, but I think that is a very reasonable thing to do.
10:07:54 All of us have to navigate our own risk, calculus.
10:07:57 So if you have high risk conditions, if it makes you nervous if you're not gonna enjoy that experience, then maybe not as much.
10:08:04 But for myself I always remind folks I have spent a lot of time with people with covid coughing in my face for the last 2 years, and I don't get Covid cause I wear a high quality
mask and I wear it
10:08:14 Well, so that really will make a big difference if it's got a good fit to your face.
10:08:20 If you wear it consistently, you should do just fine.
10:08:26 This one said this, one asks basically whether or not we recommend eating indoors when case rates are high, and I think that it depends a lot on your personal risk.
10:08:35 Profile and there is profile of the space that you're entering.
10:08:40 Not all restaurants have the same level of risk. So I compare say, a small restaurant that has really good ventilation.
10:08:48 You happen to know that all the staff are vaccinated and boosted, and they still wear mass and indoor settings, and you've got maybe 10 tables and good ventilation That's a
much lower risk than say
10:08:58 a packed bar with like 80 people, shoulder to shoulder and no ventilation.
10:09:04 You can just feel that the air is stagnant.
10:09:06 In that space there are different levels of risks for indoor areas. but if you're high risk, if you've got if you're immunosuppressed, if you've got multiple underlying conditions,
now, I think would be a good
10:09:15 time to start leaning into a little bit more of outdoor eating.
10:09:19 We've got a lot of outdoor seating in our space until we see our case rates dip backload.
10:09:24 I think that's a good option it's trying to get warmer.
10:09:27 There are a lot of restaurants that have really looked at.
10:09:28 How make their outdoor seating comfortable?
10:09:32 But look at the risk. Profile the space that you're going into last, and lots of people packed indoors very close unmassed gonna be one of your highest for spaces.
10:09:42 Small restaurant. Good ventilation and you know that they follow all the other covid protocols that's going to be a little bit safer if you're choosing the go indoors for indoor
10:09:50 dining Then just a little bit more we're almost done
10:09:59 This person says i'm 78 I have been double vaccinated, and boosted.
10:10:02 I unfortunately tested positive for Covid. using a home test.
10:10:07 On April sixth I was able to start a 5 day. Co.
10:10:10 Course of Paxlova. The next day the medication decreased my symptoms.
10:10:13 After the first dose which it does I think it's a common thing.
10:10:18 People don't know yet taking the meds the pax little bit really dramatically reduces your symptoms.
10:10:24 And so it really does make a huge difference for those who are high.
10:10:27 Risk. Let's see this person says does this covid infection count as a booster.
10:10:34 If so, can I plan on waiting on my second booster?
10:10:38 And I would say, yes. So basically a recent infection, with covid if you're already vaccinated, does confer immunity similar to having an additional vaccine So I don't think
you need to jump on getting an additional
10:10:49 booster right now. i'm sorry you got infected I'm glad it sounds like you got mads right away, and that you're doing well now, and that's really what we hope for.
10:10:58 Folks. So if you are high risk, and you unfortunately get infected if you're over 65, or if you have any underlying conditions, we have medication for you, and we want to make
sure that you get it it's really really
10:11:07 important, especially for these high risk. Folks to make sure that you don't develop any severe disease and while being vaccinated and boosted really reduce that risk.
10:11:17 We want to make sense sure that you're going to be okay.
10:11:21 We also see that the medication decreases symptoms, and it decreases your likelihood of infecting others, and actually decreases your viral load during the time that you're
taking it So all of those things
10:11:29 together are part of why we want to make sure you have access to treatment.
10:11:35 One other person had asked. I think I probably missed it higher up on the questions.
10:11:39 If you have mild symptoms, does it make sense to get treated?
10:11:43 So say you're vaccinated and boosted you're 82 does it make sense to get treated, even if you don't feel very Ill and the answer is Yes, generally severe disease from covid
10:11:55 19 doesn't start until day 7 or later. and you have to start your treatment before day 5 for it to work.
10:12:01 So even if your symptoms Aren't Severe if You're in a high risk, category call in, we want to make sure and get you started on treatment in Jefferson County, that's calling
the Jefferson
10:12:11 nurses hotline to access. that treatment Jefferson healthcare is working really hard to meet that need, and they have had a lot of demand in the last couple of weeks, as case
rates have come up.
10:12:21 But they've done a great job making sure that all of our citizens have access to that treatment. qualify.
10:12:28 So do give them a call if you live in Jefferson county in Cloudland County. The primary place that you want to call is your own primary care, provider.
10:12:34 If you don't have a primary care provider you can call one of our walking clinics to talk about getting evaluated.
10:12:39 So with that. That is all the Kptz questions I have.
10:12:44 Did that spur any additional questions from our commissioners not for me no very thorough right.
10:12:53 I'm wondering if Willie Bully has anything he wants to add today, Is he with us?
10:12:58 Yeah, I just had one very brief item and that's that we did outreach to our grocery stores, our libraries, etc.
10:13:05 As part of our program to make high quality masks available for free demand remains pretty low and their stock remains high.
10:13:14 Every place that we reached out to had an abundant amount of kan, 95, or in 95.
10:13:20 However, what we found was that the demand for n 95 with the ear loops as opposed to the full headloop was much higher.
10:13:30 I'm. So the ear loop models were already all picked over and completely sold out, so to speak.
10:13:36 Well, they had, you know, mostly an abundant amount of the headloop model.
10:13:40 So we're gonna try to get a few of the more comfortable earloop models out there.
10:13:44 Animal. but in the meantime I just wanted to note that for folks who want a free, high quality mask.
10:13:51 You may have to go with the slightly less desirable slightly less comfortable model.
10:13:55 So i'm apologies for that that's mostly what we have on hand.
10:13:58 We're gonna try to get some ear loops out and available to everyone, since those are i'm just slightly more comfortable to to wear for a long period of time between wearing
an n-* on every little bit of comfort i'm just gonna
10:14:11 make a big difference in your ability to keep that on and stay comfortable in it. So
10:14:15 That's really it from us just wanted to make that clarification that we've seen some of that feedback.
10:14:19 We're gonna try to get some of the desired models out there.
10:14:22 But no, no promises since we do have to get this from the State, and we do have so many of the full headband models.
10:14:30 So. that's it from us Barring any questions from the Commissioners.
10:14:34 Any questions, for will you guys just a comment that I think both Heidi and I talked to Jefferson.
10:14:39 Transit. That, of course, are going to a recommendation of masks instead of a requirement that they reach out because they were.
10:14:45 They're running out of masks and often have been a place that goes through a lot of masks as one of the last places that had required it.
10:14:51 So they were thinking that they only had a week's worth of masks for recommended masking of of passengers.
10:14:58 So told them to reach out to you. Yeah, sounds good.
10:15:01 We can definitely supply them with quite a bit so i'll make sure to reach out.
10:15:06 Thanks, Thanks, Willie, Thanks. Dr. Barry We appreciate you guys being here. we're gonna end. we're gonna end our covid update early, and we're gonna have an important update
on our audit findings
10:15:19 I noticed that the 3 finance ladies marched in together.
10:15:25 So. I think Mark's gonna t this one up though.
10:15:32 Yes, Commissioner, is an hour. Could you promote me to panelists?
10:15:35 Please care,
10:15:44 And this this agenda item was at because we've all been getting a ton of questions regarding in response to the newspaper article.
10:15:53 And you know, self-generated questions. So we appreciate you guys digging into this and providing a response that hopefully will call the tide of questions we've been getting.
10:16:07 So I have a spreadsheet i'll share in just a minute.
10:16:10 But I I just want everyone to know that i'm speaking this morning as a certified public accountant, and what I'm attempting to do this morning is to add some perspective so
the audit report there were some big
10:16:24 numbers in that report, and I think the public was a gas that some of this 113 million.
10:16:33 But I think some context, And, sir, some perspective is warranted here.
10:16:39 And so what i'm going to try to do is explain not make excuses.
10:16:45 But before I proceed I I want to heat but the Bucket load of praise on our staff. our treasurer, Stacy Praeta, our auditor, Roseanne Carroll, and at the time are chief accountant
judy
10:16:56 shepherd. they're outstanding folks Well, educated, talented, hardworking.
10:17:04 And Yeah, I just can't say enough good things about so and I would just say we all know this about 3 of you.
10:17:13 We all value the 3 of you and We just want this clarity so that we can get on with the good work that we all have to do.
10:17:23 No, thank you, Commissioner. so I will share my screen now, and hopefully it will be visible.
10:17:31 Great. so there's a about a 2 year lag between. when an audit report comes out in the year that was audited.
10:17:38 So the audio report we're talking about today I think was released in March this year, but it reported on 2020, and so I think it useful to go back to 2,020 and look at the
audit environment that existed
10:17:52 Okay, during 2020, the most significant of which is the Covid 19 pandemic. I think.
10:18:00 January, February is when we entered into that pandemic, and that had a pretty serious impact on virtually every county operation.
10:18:09 We moved to remote work. We had people that were out and quarantined, and so on, and and that had an impact on what is already very austere staffing.
10:18:22 Our treasurer's. office for example. I think It has had 5 ftes in 2020 down Clark County, where I spent 16 and a half years.
10:18:34 They had 3 people managing their debt investments and that's all they did. we have 5 people in the treasures office receiving checks, monitoring debt and investments, and doing
all the things that the much larger
10:18:47 offices do in counties like King and Peers, and Clark and Spokane, and Snowage.
10:18:54 The same thing goes for our auditors office. chief accountant.
10:18:59 And then I think maybe one person helping Judy put together the financial statements and the annual report.
10:19:06 We also have We had relatively high staff turnover, and when positions were vacated we had difficulty finding replacements, and I think Stacy lost 2 or 3 people in the span
of 10 months for example, and so that
10:19:21 makes things more difficult. add. on top of that we were implementing a number of sophisticated and significant software programs.
10:19:33 Munist most particularly because what that did is it allowed us to go from 2 different systems?
10:19:38 The as 400 and gems, and merge into one.
10:19:43 Well, that Burger occurred on June first 21, and so you know we may. we may see some of the conditions that existed in 2020 repeat in 2,021 during that 5 month, period although
staff's working very hard
10:19:57 to prevent that. Then another part of the environment is if you dig into the rules about government accounting.
10:20:07 They're exceedingly complex in addition to that guidance is always shifting, and I I use 2 terms up there.
10:20:17 That that explain a condition that exists, and I saw it.
10:20:21 Clark County. I see it here. I call hiding the ball removing the goalposts, and i'll explain in a subsequent tab here what I mean by that essentially It means that you did something
one way and it was
10:20:33 fine, and then some guidance comes out that you you don't know about until after you publish your report, and then you get a finding, and I think we have 2 cases of that that
we'll talk about in just a moment sorry might as
10:20:47 well use my map
10:20:53 Okay, So we had one finding where we overstated fashion investments by $803,066.
10:21:04 When I talk about perspective or context, this is an important an important tab.
10:21:09 So 803,000 sounds like a huge number, and if I had 803,000 in cash, I really like that.
10:21:18 But you have to look at it in context, and and so is it is 803,000 material or not.
10:21:25 And what we mean by material is here's the definition on the on auditing standards.
10:21:32 Board they didn't click Miss statements emissions that are considered, or are considered to be material.
10:21:37 If there is a substantial likelihood that individually are in the aggregate, they would influence the judgment made by a reasonable user based on the financial statements.
10:21:46 So if we were a private firm and we were listed on the New York Stock Exchange.
10:21:52 If we had misstatement, center financial statements that might influence an investor, reduce something that maybe he or she might not want to do.
10:22:01 If those statements were correct. but we're a local government and nobody invests and counties or cities.
10:22:07 So we have a misstatement here. but let's look at whether it's material or not.
10:22:16 So 145 million with a overstatement of 803 that's point 5 5% as a Cpa.
10:22:22 I tell you that's not material and that's over a 100 different funds or more, and so when people see 803,000, they might say Wow, that's a lot.
10:22:35 But when you look at the blue versus the little red Sliver, it really is a small amount given the totality of what's invested in managed by that office, and Mark can you speak
to what what actually happened with that 803
10:22:53 1,000. it's not like it went missing
10:23:02 But you know this this finding it doesn't there's no fraud.
10:23:07 There's no mouth reasons there's a simple not a simple but they're they're complex reasons why that 803,000 exists and staff is working every day to make that number shrink
or and disappear
10:23:22 altogether. and yeah, I don't want to interrupt the flow I don't want to interrupt the flow.
10:23:35 I just want to say the difference between cash and reported on the annual report.
10:23:40 We're balancing the cache daily the deposits, the activity at the bank and the receipts and the expenditures.
10:23:50 Those are all balanced. it's as it flows to the reporting. So I just wanna make sure that it's very clear that 800,000 is not missing cash.
10:24:00 Okay, Thank you. Okay. So that's one of the items and i'm not going to address every single little
10:24:09 The thing that the State Auditor reported reported on I'm.
10:24:12 I'm focusing on what I believe to be the larger ones that are most significant.
10:24:17 So here I mentioned hiding the ball or moving the goal post.
10:24:23 And here are the 2 examples that I I just want to highlight 113 million in any cash and investment balances.
10:24:29 Were this classified, they should have been classified as investment trust, and not custodial.
10:24:37 And essentially an analogy is that we, we said they were blue when they were actually purple.
10:24:43 Not red, not yellow. Very little practical effect to that miss.
10:24:49 Misclassification. And so the hiding the ball part is that these accounts were listed as custodial in our 2019 financial statements.
10:24:58 Based on guidance we received from the Sao and April of 2020.
10:25:03 Seo had no issue with these accounts big listed as custodial on our 2019 financial statements, and we did not have a finding in 2019 in May 2021.
10:25:16 We reported these accounts as custodial. Again, in our 2,020 financial statements.
10:25:21 In December we were informed that no that's wrong.
10:25:26 You should have called them Investment Trust accounts.
10:25:29 And then you can see, when the Sao guidance was promulgated in the Barn Cash Manual, it was December fifteenth.
10:25:35 Well after we turned in our statements. The second example is, and the beginning cash and investments were overstated, because county did not report prior to your adjustments
that later identified as necessary.
10:25:49 Well Prior Sao Guy, who was to correct these misstatements in the year they were found, not as prior period adjustments.
10:25:56 So 2 balls They were both hidden we didn't find them handsome finding, can you?
10:26:02 I'm sorry mark so the on december 9 2221.
10:26:05 We were informed the room is classified, but there was no guidance from Sao until after that fact.
10:26:11 Correct online. They actually told us on December ninth.
10:26:18 One way to do it, and then the next day they send another email.
10:26:22 It was different. sorry you should probably. Well, you restate that at the microphone
10:26:29 We actually met with them virtually December ninth, and they said it should be one way.
10:26:35 External pool custodial and the next day they send an email and said, But wait there's this other thing, and it was a different one again.
10:26:43 So all the way up through december ninth if we follow the the seo's guidance.
10:26:48 It was wrong. No, thank you. Okay. And the last thing I would like to share just for perspective.
10:27:01 In 2021, which would have been audit for the year 39, 14 to 39.
10:27:09 Washington County said 16 findings between them. and We didn't have a finding ourselves 2022 auditing the year 2,02013 of 39 Washington counties had 19 findings between them,
and can county head for Those
10:27:25 Peers County had 2 very large counties, with robust staffing.
10:27:31 So here's an example of a finding from pierce county.
10:27:35 They had 2 findings. they misstated they overstated. It's fight fiduciary fund liability balanced by 1 point almost 1 point, 2 billion, which cause their prior period adjustment
to be understated by almost
10:27:52 1.3 billion with the B. the effect of these errors etc.
10:27:58 Understated its net position by 1 point. 1, 4, 6 billion.
10:28:02 Now does. Does Pierce County have incompetent people running their finances?
10:28:08 I would say not. but the conditions that i've already explained hiding the ball and changing guidance and exceedingly complex rules, sometimes leads to findings.
10:28:17 Of this sort and that's what we have here and so Is it good that we have overstated or understated things, though it's not but does it mean that we're not well managed no it
doesn't
10:28:31 and so barring any questions from the Board, I think that the presentation I wanted to make this morning.
10:28:39 Thank you, Mark. Does anyone have questions for Mark or Stacey, Judy or Roseanne?
10:28:48 Thanks. thanks. This is very eliminating yeah it's helpful I mean, I I think what's interesting is that like this is why we have audits actually is to have another set of independent
eyes?
10:29:03 On things, and like so many things being weaponized these days, the very system we have in place to catch errors which happen with humans and happen with technology.
10:29:13 That's why the audit exists and so instead of it being seen as male seasons.
10:29:19 It is it's like no this is what this is for to to catch errors, and so that we're all responsible with with the public funds.
10:29:26 We're interested with right and I and I might add that in Clark County.
10:29:30 We had an internal audit capability. We had 4 full time employees that would room around the county and would do performance auditing and compliance and accountability.
10:29:40 Audits inside the county, and pearson king i'm sure you have that capability.
10:29:46 But yet they had this 1 point: 2 billion dollars. misfortune.
10:29:51 I would give my it to have that capability here but we're small rural county.
10:29:57 We've received money from the State because we're distressed rural county, and I think we do an amazing job because of these 3 people, and also the thing that really strikes
me in this report this morning is the rule changing the the
10:30:14 doing things under one set of rules and then the rules being changed after you followed the rules that you were given to do the work.
10:30:26 So. That rule changing piece is, what's really striking to me is that it Can there not be a little more advanced notice when rules are changing instead of after the fact?
10:30:34 Notice, and as people getting onited, we try to act with grace and so we understand they're doing the best they can. And it was not until there was some extreme frustration
on this issue that I went back and pulled the emails
10:30:54 and I have emails from 2020 discussing this and determining the the very thing that caused the 113 million.
10:31:04 And I had very clear decision of what it should be classified as.
10:31:08 And then again in 2020 one, after we support. Before we submitted again I went through it again.
10:31:18 And so this was not just an ignorance, and not knowing the issue existed.
10:31:22 It was for a lot of effort by a lot of our county team, including prosecuting attorney, the State Treasurer's office.
10:31:32 To get to this. and so you know, we appreciate the work.
10:31:36 The Sao does. They also are working under difficult conditions. and We're just trying to get to the right answers.
10:31:44 I think my the lesson learned for me in this is just that when we have a finding, it would be really great to have a response.
10:31:54 Prepare a response as quickly as possible because in the absence of that.
10:31:57 That's where you get suspicion and you know we were getting a lot of concern targeted towards us, and like I. I don't.
10:32:04 I'm not gonna speak to this because I don't understand it, and I don't want to misstate anything.
10:32:08 I trust my team and but just the the more we can be prepared to respond.
10:32:15 Where those allegations come up, I think, would be really helpful to maintaining trust with the public.
10:32:22 Roseanne. Okay, more people go back to. I think it was the last slide that talked about the 113 million
10:32:38 , up at the top. Oh, this one. Yeah. keep going.
10:32:45 No, not that way about the misclassified Okay, So I hope that everyone, if they take nothing away from this, they take the word misclassified and say it was misclassified.
10:33:05 It's not missing the money is there okay?
10:33:11 And then the other thing is to take into consideration is when we filed the 2,020, and report on May the end of May in 2,021, and if you can see the dates that we kept the
10:33:29 misclassification dialogue going until we got to the right answer.
10:33:32 I mean, we just kept pounding until we got to the right answer, and sometimes it takes a long time, and as I noticed during Covid that because the audit was being done off site
there was lag time it takes time for people
10:33:46 to check their email. Then they gotta go find the answer and sometime.
10:33:50 That's the email to somebody else So everything was like really long.
10:33:54 So. anyway, I just wanted to make sure. everybody took that into consideration.
10:34:00 Thank you guys, we really appreciate the light you're shining on this issue.
10:34:05 The whole sunshine thing right I know we have another time stamped.
10:34:12 Item at 1030. So if there's nothing else on this side then we can move on to the next one maybe just for the public's benefit.
10:34:24 That you know. kind of How does this get cleared up what's the the resolution with the state
10:34:39 So the resolution is, their report is final, and that we did correct everything.
10:34:45 Except for that $800,000 and we're continuing to work on.
10:34:51 We're working on a report, for 2021 and so we use everything we know and try to incorporate it in the next one like Mark said, We still have the issue of 2 separate systems
January through may of
10:35:04 2021, and so we're working on it I wish I had more time.
10:35:14 Thanks, Stacy. Thank you guys,
10:35:23 Okay, good further information feel like I understand a lot more than I did before.
10:35:33 Thanks, Mark So the next item on our agenda is a discussion and potential action regarding the request to vacate Ricky Beach.
10:35:44 Drive right away by Russell Trask of Termination point properties, and will be joined by Monty.
10:35:49 I believe, and we did get public testimony about this first thing this morning as well,
10:36:04 , Okay, and i'm not sure who's going to brief us on this item.
10:36:13 Okay. Well, there was my conclusion, thinking this was Rocky Beach Road.
10:36:19 So thanks for clearing that up Rocky Beach drive.
10:36:21 This is actually Ricky Beach drive yeah Yup. I had not heard of this. I'm not.
10:36:32 I had not heard of Ricky beach drive cause it's not really rude.
10:36:36 It's more of a path. so monty what what do you have for us on this item.
10:36:42 While you're ready. I see? Does it looks like Kate team might have stepped out.
10:36:46 Or are we going here? she said. she'd be right back so I think we can get it going?
10:36:52 If you'd like I could hang on a sec just
10:37:00 Share my screen.
10:37:12 There you go that's ricky beach drive would you
10:37:29 Well, said, were you able to review the memo and the materials I mean, how much do you want me to go into this?
10:37:38 I guess the the first thing I should say is this is not a hearing.
10:37:40 This is actually, the recommendation is that you guys remains to the hearing examiner, so that there could be a hearing on this matter.
10:37:50 So really what we're asking, for today, is a pretty you know. it's just a to to put this back into the format where there could be a hearing, and everyone's viewpoints on this
issue could be
10:38:06 understood, So that, we because when it comes to road vacations the hearing examiner does the hearings for those? and then the hearing examiner's recommendation is brought to
the board for the board's, final consideration on
10:38:22 whether to vacate or not. they cater road The issue with Ricky Beach tribe, which is off of Shine Road down by the canal bridge is there was a here and conducted in 2,001
10:38:34 so 21 years ago. on this matter the hearing examiner said it could be vacated, but that some conditions would need to be met.
10:38:44 Those conditions were worked on intermittently over that time period.
10:38:48 But in our opinion, never satisfactorily met.
10:38:56 And then the proponent, as more recently, decided to put some effort into this issue again, and has provided some documents that might satisfy the conditions which were essentially
to create new easements to replace the public road right
10:39:16 away that would be vacated. since it's been 21 years, and there are still many people interested in this issue.
10:39:26 You've seen information sent to you in the last few days.
10:39:31 From plaid owners there, many supporting this action, some refusing to sign the document that was sent to you.
10:39:40 It just seems appropriate that this matter, given the length of time and lack of unanimous you know.
10:39:53 Take on the issue should go back to the hearing examiner in 2,001.
10:39:59 The hearing. Examiner knew this was going to be potentially a tricky issue, and said, Hey, if there's still difficulty working on these conditions, bring it back to the hearing
examiner.
10:40:12 So the hearing examiner can take another Look at this so I mean that's the short run down there.
10:40:17 You know the road is what it is it's closed it's been close since 1997 due to landslide activity.
10:40:26 Right where that pavement ends. in the picture there is where the plans slide.
10:40:32 Scarp runs through this The land below there is on a slow, moving, deep, seated, unstable land mass that creeps during wet years.
10:40:47 You know the trees are all crooked down there because the land moves so it's not land that's ever going to be developed with houses.
10:40:57 There's been several geotechnical reports done by the landowner commissioned by the landowner.
10:41:05 That support developing land up on the uplands portion above.
10:41:13 Where this picture is taken from that are, you know, not on the landslide, but have reiterated that this is not an appropriate place to build homes.
10:41:22 So I believe the desired use down there is to for for recreation.
10:41:30 You know, either walk or drive, perhaps, if permits, can be obtained to revitalize this road down here, and then you can walk from the road to the beach across, probably owned
by the homeowners Association the the
10:41:48 road itself does not provide direct access to the shoreline for the public otherwise we wouldn't even be talking about a road vacation, because you can't vacate roads that go
to water, but that's the
10:42:02 That's the summary there again. a public works recommendation is just that the Board rightand this to the hearing examiner a hearing be held, any new information or recent information
that way can come to light through hearing and then this time unlike
10:42:20 20 years ago. the hearing examiners decision recommendation, I should say, will be brought to the Board, and I would suggest at that time the Board would make its intent clear
about whether they would support vacating this road or not and give a time
10:42:39 limit of a year or less to meet any conditions and finalize this because we can't have this drag on a year after year after year.
10:42:49 So Anyway, that's what I have to say about this do you have any questions for me?
10:42:57 I have one question, Monty. Thanks for the breakdown.
10:43:01 The analysis in the and the gender request was really clear as Well, there's talk about just putting a a gate across, you know, with access for the landowners that the county
would own.
10:43:13 Can you talk about that idea, and how it's been received by the the landowners or the petitioner?
10:43:19 We have talk to the petitioners attorneys about that possibility, and they told us that they went back and discussed that with the actual property owner and came back with the
response that they still wanted to pursue
10:43:35 this road vacation issue to its conclusion you know it's, but I think there is a a way that a gate today could be installed and access be provided.
10:43:55 Just to plaid owners you know we it's very unusual to gate off public right away.
10:44:04 But when the public is not paying to maintain a road public resources aren't being spent and then the public's not allowed access, you could see what the problem with that might
be but if that's not the case and the public's not
10:44:22 spending money, and this road doesn't provide access to tied lands or publicly available land.
10:44:30 The only thing you can go down this road and do is trespass.
10:44:35 Then there has to be a way because there's extenuating circumstances here that being the landslide as to why the county is not maintaining this road anymore.
10:44:46 We have the same thing in a few other places in the county where you know we don't want people going down roads like this and dumping garbage and and installing a gate so that
that can't happen
10:44:59 it seems like a reasonable thing to do while still allowing the landowner or the plaid owners access.
10:45:07 The you know, and like you know, foot access is one thing it's still unclear.
10:45:15 If the major property on down there is going to try to restore this road to vehicular access and build something like a recreational parking area down there.
10:45:27 I think the permitting on something like that could get pretty challenging.
10:45:31 Given the landslide, and the shoreline issues but that's neither here nor there today.
10:45:37 Yeah. But is it advisable to allow people to drive down on no big, unstable landmass?
10:45:49 Well, this isn't the kind of landslide that's going to let go and kill people.
10:45:54 This is a very slow you know piece of land that moves a little bit, you know, during the wet years, so maybe it's possible.
10:46:06 But again, I'm not here to discuss future plans and what kind of permitting that might require.
10:46:12 But again i've seen counties that have had a situation where they issued permits to use that own risk.
10:46:22 Type stuff. But again, if it's not a maintenance county road.
10:46:28 There may not be any liability for the county it's just right away.
10:46:32 The people. The Cloud owners can use and we're not maintaining the road there.
10:46:37 So I short answer is there's there's probably a way to get there without a road vacation.
10:46:45 Monty, Where on the road is the that landslide you're showing in the photo, and sorry if I missed this.
10:46:52 Yeah, you know, like there's a good lidar image in the packet that I sent you that you can clearly see the unstable, you know land mass, and where it kind of cuts across the
road it's, hard to
10:47:08 see in this photo, but it's essentially just past the end of the pavement.
10:47:13 Here is where the the the head scarp of that landslide is so everything below this picture is on the landslide that red dash line is the Okay, great Thank you.
10:47:40 , I guess you know public works to be, you know.
10:47:46 To be fair, has never been opposed to the concept of vacating the road, and we're still here simpleing the applicants.
10:47:57 The petitioners attempts to pursue this but road vacations are never, you know, guaranteed, and particularly when there's different opinions about it, and not unanimous support.
10:48:12 They they always get a little bit more difficult. because the counties at some point left with a choice of you know, deciding who who gets their way, and who doesn't.
10:48:28 And again, the best place for all of these differing opinions to be heard is at an actual hearing, where everyone's notified officially.
10:48:38 Again about this issue, and has an official means of commenting on it before asking the Board to make its final decision.
10:48:52 Now you have the full authority to make a final decision at any time on this, whether to vacate it or not.
10:48:59 He's been you've seen the hearing examiner's recommendation from 21 years ago.
10:49:06 But i'm guessing. that you've probably agree that allowing people to testified through an official hearing might be the better way to go at this point.
10:49:23 I mean. yeah, i'll say we had. some public comments on this and that letter from many you know, many of the residents, but not all of the residents, and if there was consensus
20 years later, I might have
10:49:34 a different answer. but you know, without consensus, I I see no reason not to accept staff recommendation.
10:49:42 I guess I mean, I think having a hearing, and and, you know, holding that option which will be a lower cost option to to gate it, too, I think, is is very expansive of public
work.
10:49:55 So I appreciate that option. I think that option still on the table.
10:49:58 But but would it be if it went to the hearing examiner?
10:50:01 Maybe not. Yeah, I mean, I think that's kind of outside of his purview right?
10:50:09 Eventually, so we could still I think I don't Monty. Can you answer that question If we go to the if the petitioner does choose to go to the hearing, have a hearing with the
hearing examiner could we still have
10:50:21 the option to gate it. If, they are unable to, you know, get conditions that they can work with from the hearing zoom.
10:50:31 I believe so. Again, the hearing examiner only makes recommendations, findings, conclusions, and recommendations.
10:50:39 The what happens on a county road with county right right away is ultimately the Board of County Commissioners authority and decision, and there's no law that says you can't
you know install a gate if there's reasons
10:50:56 that you know the board and believes that it's in the public's best interest, and perhaps we could ask the hearing examiner to consider that too.
10:51:06 In the scope. yeah i'm inclined also to to have a, you know, part of the reason that county commissions remained things to hearing examiners to ensure that we're not politicizing
10:51:23 issues that it's going to a fair and highly informed person to make that decision.
10:51:29 So. I am happy to support that option and you know. I think, that the the lens that I will eventually see this through is kind of how do we ensure both that we're not creating
an attractive new sense
10:51:48 one way or another. you know whether that's allowing the going ahead with the vacation, the right of way And you know, having activity in an area that is not perhaps not not
safe, and that ultimately other folks could access or even if
10:52:06 we did the gates that there are many places where there's a gate, and no access, and it still becomes a place for nefarious activity or dumping
10:52:16 And then also, just you know, kind of what what kind of development might we be opening this area up to?
10:52:23 And I hear there's a lot of uncertainty there Monty, because of the permitting and a delicate area.
10:52:29 I assume a lot of this would still fall under shoreline jurisdiction.
10:52:33 It's a little hard to tell the scale here but presumably it would, and therefore you know high level of protection around these properties.
10:52:41 So that those are my concerns
10:52:47 And just letting folks know that this is not a hearing and we'll not be taking testimony on this item during this time period.
10:52:56 So sorry for that. But yeah, I mean I guess you know this is part of a process, so that we'll get back in front of the board.
10:53:06 You know, with with all the information. So this is not intended to delay stall.
10:53:18 Whatever a decision on this this is this: is the path to a final decision on this road vacation.
10:53:24 Issue It's not going to be still hanging out there another 20 years from now about Well, what what's up with the ricky beach.
10:53:34 Drive right away. there's they'll be this this matter is in my opinion, is going to be resolved before the end of this year.
10:53:43 One way or the other, making sure the petitioner satisfied all the conditions within a shorter time period.
10:53:54 In this 2 decades that we've had before is there a way we can make that request to the hearing examiner that there's time limits on the conditions or or yeah, and that's the
way road vacations are
10:54:05 handled today. it's unusual to have one with this many conditions or these kind of conditions.
10:54:13 But typically there. there are some conditions on road vacations, and a time limit is established.
10:54:24 So what happens is after the hearing examiner now the hearing examiner's findings, conclusions, and recommendations are brought to the Board within.
10:54:31 Let's say, 30 days of the hearing and the board then gives its tentative decision, approval, or you know approval conditioned on that conditions being Matt within, say, 6 or
12 months, or it's outright denial of the
10:54:49 vacation. If that's the way it goes but not this well, let's go out and see if you can meet conditions, and when you find, do then we'll take it to the board so that's how it
would be
10:55:02 handled the day and that's what we'll do here The main condition again is there is a is that when a road is vacated, the the right away goes away so you know there has to be
a way for the lot owners
10:55:18 to then have access. There is a lot owner off to the left of this property last 57, who has remained opposed to this road vacation, and as late as last week called to verbally
express their opposition to this road vacation so one of
10:55:32 the conditions is that they be granted and easement across the property together to their property.
10:55:42 And you know there's a disagreement let's say about whether that property owner has to accept the easement or not, or whether it just has to be granted the the property in our
said I don't
10:56:01 want an easement. I want public right away. to my property so that's the main I would say probably the the the the top issue there is is that disagreement, but you'll notice
on that recent set of signatures that
10:56:18 was sent to the board late last week. or even maybe it was this morning that several other property owners in the plaid also said they weren't interested in signing that for
various reasons.
10:56:31 So again, all of this can be fleshed out.
10:56:35 You know, in a hearing better. So it sounds like there was support for moving forward with sending this to the hearing exam.
10:56:47 Or does someone want to make a motion i'll i'll move this we remand this matter of the vacation of of Ricky.
10:56:55 What is it? drive to the to the hearing Examiner.
10:57:03 For a new here, and I will second all in favor.
10:57:09 Bye, bye, Thank you, Monte, for being here and providing the background and and staff recommendation on this. you bet.
10:57:17 Thank you.
10:57:23 Okay, So we have more time for briefing on my hair with my crazy glasses. cool.
10:57:34 So sorry everybody for them. Well, pair do let's see
10:57:43 I could continue. I think we left off, and I was less than a quarter of the way through.
10:57:48 I think well see, I have my notes
10:58:04 Okay, So I think I had gotten through giving you guys an update on Trailhead Park, and also on progress towards the May sixteenth workshop on the Beaver Valley sorts timber
sale.
10:58:22 And the aftermath of the letter we sent to the Board of Natural Resources, and their delay of that timber sale.
10:58:31 So other categories of work i've been working with Kara at the straight ern, or having our first in person, straight ear and meeting on May sixth are I think it's basic that
i've had never met
10:58:46 any of these people so other than on zoom so i'm looking forward to that.
10:58:51 And it's also the day for certifying the election, which is taking place, I believe tomorrow the school quilts in school bond, so I will be in 2 places at once, somehow.
10:59:03 But is it certify? end of the electionless when it comes to mind?
10:59:08 But but then it's the certification that comes it's a couple of weeks later, though let's see.
10:59:25 I finished my leadership Academy last week, and got my very official certificate and Mike, my tiny but my cohort has decided to continue meeting once a month, and so we're gonna
meet every first Friday for
10:59:40 lunch, and excited to keep those relationships alive. I was able to attend the chatemakum portrait dedication at the chimicum schools the week before last, and super well attended
events beautiful
10:59:56 ceremony and display of these photographs that were taken by Brian Goodman, and supported by an illustrious group of local photographers.
11:00:11 And wonderful kind of a dedication ceremony and appreciation of everyone who's involved in putting that together, including the chemical school superintendent and the school
board and members of the Timikum
11:00:24 tribal family, and anyway, was a beautiful ceremony, and we all did the Board of Health Meeting.
11:00:35 That was last week the week before, anyway. spend some time with Mark last week talking about
11:00:44 Where are we at with our Arpa commitments, and where are we at?
11:00:50 With capital needs for the county, and trying to make sense of those 2 big juicy lists of of priorities.
11:00:57 So we'll be looking at that later this afternoon. thank you to mark for all your work on those lists, and working with staff to kind of clarify some of the items that weren't
really nailed down So
11:01:12 that feels good. been a little bit of community foundation activity at board meetings.
11:01:20 And then I also. We all attended the event they had last week at.
11:01:25 Thank you event for their contributors first In-person event they've had in a long while as well, and just reflecting that you know they did the whole Covid fund, and no one
had really seen each other for that whole
11:01:37 time. So it was pretty neat event, because everyone was like, Wow!
11:01:41 Here we are together. Look what we did as a community so super grateful for that group of folks who are on the board instead of the community foundation, and they're leaving
the way. and a number of other important issues in our community right
11:01:56 now. so we had our empowered teams coalition meeting for chimicum.
11:02:06 I met with Cindy Brooks then the relatively new director of the Edc.
11:02:13 And I feel like she's a great shot in the arm for that organization.
11:02:17 And I look forward to supporting her as as the years unfold in front of us.
11:02:23 She seems like a wonderful smart kind of she's got good insights, and is applying them already.
11:02:34 And I appreciate her honesty and commitment to the work already.
11:02:43 And then, at the end of last week I started my role as a Shoreline Hearings board member, i'm an alternate for wasack, grave soul and and it was a we had our orientation for
new new members, and
11:02:59 alternates, and it was pretty amazing to see some of the folks have been on the shoreline hearings board for over a decade, Rob Gilder being one of them kids have County Commissioner,
11:03:10 And it's clear to me that it's a totally different role than being a commissioner, and it I think it will be a a good experience.
11:03:20 I did ask the question, How often did the alternatives get called on?
11:03:23 And They said that actually what they do in a case comes up. is they kind of put it out to the team and the commissioners and alternates amongst themselves.
11:03:33 Kind of say, who can make the commitment of time and who does it make the most sense for like if it Wasn't Jefferson County issue.
11:03:39 It probably wouldn't make sense for it to be me or if it was a kid's app county issue wouldn't make sense for it to be robbed.
11:03:45 So it's more of a in the role of a judge and an impartial judge.
11:03:52 And anyway, appreciated the overview and have a whole new set of what chapters of the wax and the Rcws to learn now.
11:04:02 But i'm looking forward to digging in on that so be good to have a local expert I think I don't know The name.
11:04:14 One talk about the tax tax blues breakfast, do we?
11:04:19 , yeah, we went. I went to that. That was great, and I tried to get there early enough to meet the road crew, but they were kind of on their way out, and I got there before
7 , yeah But it was fun to that
11:04:31 is, Julie said, you'll see all their tracks and all their press were lined up out front, and they'll have their own best son, and .
11:04:39 Anyway, I appreciate that appreciation of the county team, and was thinking as I left there. We should do more of that.
11:04:46 But I don't know feel like those kinds of joint activities that we do together are super valuable.
11:04:56 And anyway, appreciate all the good work of our road crew.
11:05:01 And breakfast was awesome. so let's see that's I think that's it.
11:05:09 And then just a number of one off meetings with concern.
11:05:11 Neighbors and residents on specific issues out in district 2, and I find I'm surprised about how much time those consume of my time, and how much I really get impatient aligned
to see resolution, of issues, and
11:05:29 realizing these things take time, and one issue that I think i've talked about a number of times is the in the Price Street, where County has a bunch of right away, and there's
also some abandoned trailers and
11:05:47 some garbage being left, and we've had us now had a survey done of the right, and it turns out that a lot of the abandoned stuff and the garbage is actually in our county right
away so I know
11:06:01 that Mike Dawson is working with solid waste to get some of that removed.
11:06:07 It didn't look like anyone was living in the at the trailer that was down there for the last couple of months.
11:06:11 So just a lot of a lot of work for our staff from these these situations that kind of drag on for decades.
11:06:22 Yeah, it's really it's been surveyed before. but the survey stakes have been pulled out, and so they had to be served again, and i'm like, well let's get the work done Now
11:06:29 so the Survey doesn't have to be redone again. so. Anyway, I've asked Mark a couple of times for little chunks of funding potentially to help with these projects.
11:06:42 But so far we haven't needed to deploy any but those are generally small amounts for survey support or public works.
11:06:54 A truck might need a truck to come pick up stuff anyway, so grateful of everyone who works across their
11:07:01 Their line and towards collaboration on solving issues with each other for the residents of our county cause.
11:07:09 Public health and safety, screams loud loud and clear in those moments when I'm, standing at the edge of these impromptu garbage dumps and see kids running down the street next
to him and just concern
11:07:23 over the health and safety of our community. so I think that's it for me looking back.
11:07:35 Does anyone want to talk about what They're doing this week Hello, Mark has anything he wants to report?
11:07:41 Sorry, Mark. yeah, I can talk about last week. did a fair amount of staff work.
11:07:47 Got to work on that. A contract amendment for holy cap.
11:07:51 The 500,000 the chicken d forestry a contract for this morning, and I've dusted off the Rp.
11:07:59 For courthouse security. I gotta get that on the street here.
11:08:03 Cause the Ppc. we that we had a 5 year run for them, and the fifth year, and at the end of 2022.
11:08:16 So we need to to reissue that So I attended some of the unus human capital management. training.
11:08:27 It looks like We've got a superb trainer currently very effective training and staff are starting to look more upbeat about the one. January 2023 go live for human capital.
management.
11:08:42 So That's very encouraging attended that Pudd port and city coordination meeting on the poplar project on Sims way.
11:08:54 Yeah, yeah, that's That's a tough one for them had a courthouse it a meeting with with staff in the courthouse, and then Poly policy management group and noon.
11:09:10 On the 20 first That was a busy one I met with Judy Rosanne and Stacy to talk about the audit, the result of which was the discussion we had this morning.
11:09:21 Met with it, staff and Sarah. and We we fine tune. the database technician job description, and we'll be putting that out for a recruitment here very shortly.
11:09:36 Then, of course, with commissioner Brotherton the Caswell Brown meeting, and then I met with Roseanne on the Grand administrator position.
11:09:45 We're negotiating with a fellow We had 2 candidates fellow from Canada up into Yukon Territory, quite promising.
11:09:54 We offered this. He came back with this and so we're He lives here now, for me.
11:10:07 He has a place I can't go wow, he lives here.
11:10:08 Now he lives here now, , yeah so I think we're gonna successfully conclude that negotiation here shortly.
11:10:12 And then Heidi and I met on agenda prep.
11:10:17 And then, of course, I went to dermatology at the hospital, being 65 and sun damage.
11:10:25 That's a good move. met with jeffrey criter from Trinity.
11:10:29 United Methodist Church. I think you remember that you gave 20,000 to a very worthy project at that church.
11:10:35 They have more work to do, and they want to apply for Cdbg Grant, but they need a sponsor.
11:10:43 And so Judy Shepherd and I met with him i'll be bringing that to you.
11:10:48 The deadline for applying is one june. but I need formal approval from the board. so i'll bring an agenda request to you, giving the authority to what apply for that grant and
that 20,000 was used for
11:11:01 childcare Correct? Yeah. And then I I first time went to Coolard Tie.
11:11:10 It was quite excellent with Brent, and so a lunch meeting
11:11:15 And then I had a meeting with renee tally from central services and Judy shepherd we're We're having to parse out financial duties because the Central services Director job
has finance duties
11:11:28 in it that are going to judy and so we're sorting that out, so that we can go to Profman and get the recruitment.
11:11:35 For Central Services Director underway right That's been nice so that was my week.
11:11:44 And so mark on the Central Services director with less financial duties.
11:11:47 Do you think that that will take on some of the capital planning that we're going to talk about this afternoon?
11:11:54 Most definitely, and and property management great. yeah, cause we have 300 parcels, many of which. why do we own them shouldn't?
11:12:02 We try to get those parcels back on the tax roles.
11:12:06 Great large body work there. we're so glad you're here, Mark Glad to be here.
11:12:17 Just to look ahead. Yeah. Okay. okay. Tomorrow, like I said, I meet with the Cohen from the Planning commission.
11:12:25 Continue our conversation about how to work effectively together.
11:12:33 Have a meeting later that day with Brent Butler.
11:12:36 We have a very promising sending intern from the U.
11:12:42 Dub a graduate student, but to graduate very interested in rural land use and economic development.
11:12:48 So yeah previously, Brent said, Oh, I don't think we have the capacity to take on an intern.
11:12:52 But then, seeing her interest so strong it's a worth pursuing so discuss that let's see pretends and empower teams coalition meeting tomorrow afternoon.
11:13:07 We'll have budget committee meeting on Wednesday morning.
11:13:14 And with the Housing Fund Board Wednesday afternoon forward to that Thursday.
11:13:23 All day we have the director from usda world development here.
11:13:28 It's gonna be a very busy day during the tour every project that anybody wants funding forever from real development, which is a massive program.
11:13:37 So yeah, we're trying to trying to focus, on projects that are in the pipeline that have a better chance of getting funded that are going to be seeking funding.
11:13:45 But everybody everybody wants a little, you know. opportunity to to show her their project. So it's it's gonna be a long and busy day.
11:13:57 Hi! We have the county coordination meeting we cancelled the one week before last.
11:14:08 Just we didn't have much to discuss so we'll plan to do that.
11:14:11 Then Mayor Dexter from Per Angels will be here.
11:14:14 So plan to see her for lunch on Friday afternoon, and then have an event. Friday afternoon with the
11:14:21 Group I mentioned was is interested in the fort warden campus.
11:14:32 Environmental connection just a couple of things.
11:14:38 I wanted to mention one i'm not sure if you've heard. but it sounds like our earmark request for the sewer was very well received by kilmer's office right one of the highest
so yeah and that's specifically to try to focus on some of
11:14:52 the housing affordable housing projects, and really based on affordability. for housing.
11:14:59 So yeah, very exciting that it seems to have scored very high.
11:15:03 And then wanted to let you know that i'm in the process of trying to get a a training at least one, maybe 2 training scheduled here for Government government tribal relations
for public sector employees the
11:15:22 Governor's office of treble affairs has a training program, and I asked.
11:15:29 Just a couple of our department directors if they had staff that would benefit from that.
11:15:30 And they said, yes, there's a huge appetite so we might end up doing a couple of them, and probably wanna get some advice from home sucker as to whether we could attend that
together or not so yeah, so i'm
11:15:45 guessing both of you might be interested great so we'll.
11:15:50 I'll keep working on that Stay tuned think that's that's my week.
11:15:57 Did you have anything from 2 weeks ago you wanted to show?
11:16:05 I think I let's see did I talk about the conference. conference was a It was workforce Development Conference, National Conference, and can't remember last week.
11:16:18 It was a little disappointing. in a number of ways.
11:16:21 The you know. Covid was really raging there in Dc.
11:16:24 At the time. and there are almost no mitigations in place at the conference.
11:16:30 So I was I was less like Yeah, I didn't participate as fully, because, you know i'd walk into a teeny meeting room in a hotel basement, and nobody has masks on just like no
no can't do
11:16:43 it. So that was a little little frustrating but yeah, you know, last year I've done this this works this conference many times, and last year was the one year that was it was
truly interesting because they we're
11:17:00 willing to address, like, you know, that was the beginning of the workforce.
11:17:07 Really kind of the start of the great resignation and and this this year it was just back to the same old like.
11:17:16 You know we we just need you know accelerators to train people in high tech, and you know we just we have such an odd economy here.
11:17:21 We don't fit into some of the normal trends you know we we have a hard time, you know.
11:17:28 They're talking about programs like having microsoft. come and best 2 million dollars and workforce development.
11:17:34 And yeah, we just don't see that here and it doesn't mean we can't. but we we don't fit the metrics for a lot of that kind of programming I did have a good workshop with
11:17:43 our was hosted by Washington to Washington workforce boards, and it was specifically on how to make hospitality.
11:17:50 A more viable you know. Have there be a pipeline so that it is not a dead end to just low age jobs. and the head of the National Restaurant Association was taking part in that,
too, and that was that was
11:18:05 helpful because it was washing based in Washington. It was and Washington State examples.
11:18:11 It was more applicable. So there would be some follow up to that, and I would love to, you know. loop in for warden or other.
11:18:19 Our you know tourism, coordinating council, or something to to talk more about.
11:18:23 How, you know. Are there certifications like, How do you get folks from entry level, working their way through a professional ladder to living wage jobs and hopefully stay here,
too.
11:18:37 So that that was a highlight the actually just since we've been sitting here meeting.
11:18:43 I got an email from one of the senators staffers who said good thing we didn't meet that we cause I did have Covid.
11:18:50 So there's a lot of that. Yeah, we did another virtual meeting with somebody with Covid.
11:18:54 So it was that was definitely affecting our my ability to be effective.
11:19:02 There, but did have a great meeting with our lobbyist Crystal Lb in Dc.
11:19:08 We did a virtual meeting with kilmer's new legislative director, heather painter who i'd never met before.
11:19:18 And that went quite well. I think I did report on that last week.
11:19:23 Just that, you know, she said. Wow! you actually make sewers.
11:19:26 Sounds really interesting. So perhaps that helped with our our earmark.
11:19:33 Request. and then I I mentioned that spent a fair amount of time on getting a another earmark requesting of the last minute Senator Murray's office with Jefferson healthcare
on childcare so free time any
11:19:45 free time was spent frantically working on that application, but got that in the nick of time.
11:19:55 And I had a couple of the meetings. I had to attend to the time and Action Committee and Leadership Council meeting for the pages on partnership, while I was there, but largely
in conference mode and a just as a
11:20:07 reminder to this is there's very little county funds go into this trip.
11:20:12 That is something that the workforce board pays for which is Federal funds that are administered through Kitset County.
11:20:21 So It's that's not a large expense to the county, and we we get some benefit from continually, you know, every time I'm there pending the pavement on the sewer and I don't
11:20:31 know in theory we're starting to see that payoff so that's interesting.
11:20:35 Yeah, tell us. Tell us just one fun thing you did while you were there because we don't get to go fun thing
11:20:44 Any museums or any I did I also went to the museum of the American Indian.
11:20:48 Which I've been to before this morning, on the Mall and there is an exhibit right there for a year of Preston single Terry's glass art and he lived in Portuguese for many years
his
11:21:01 gallery is in Pioneer Square. now. yeah.
11:21:06 It was really great to see It was one of the creation myths.
11:21:11 He's clinket this creation myth of raven stealing from the the box of light and really beautiful installation.
11:21:20 And So that was that was inspiring. But with
11:21:24 My flight was cancelled coming home, so ended up having to fly on the day early. so I couldn't find home a day late.
11:21:32 So trip was cut short the the time built in for fun got axe some. That's okay.
11:21:40 But it was. It was 70 degrees and beautiful and it's Such a walkable city, and you know any free time was out walking the streets of beautiful start building, since trees and
bloom and warm weather.
11:21:53 And that was that was a treat. Great exhibit.
11:21:56 Yes, I think I had gone over my week a little bit the April tenth, through sixteenth. but i'll just reiterate quickly, and the left one quarterly meeting.
11:22:06 We had that's you know the old pensions that cover healthcare for the through the duration of life, for law enforcement and firefighters.
11:22:15 But we only have a couple of folks left on that, so we approve work when it comes up, and none came up, and we had the tourism coordinating Council, as we know you know, tourism.
11:22:27 Still big, you know people are are I think revenge traveling, you know.
11:22:32 I'm gonna make up for these last couple of years so let's go and gain lusters.
11:22:37 And I have my the quilting and powered teams coalition, and and this way, wednesday I we're doing a naming committee, because there's some thought that we're not being inclusive
by
11:22:48 calling it the will see an empowered teams coalition, because we serve the brilliant school district, which is a feeder feeder school into, You know It's K.
11:22:57 Through 8 down there, so it feeds into the quilting school district.
11:23:01 But I know we'll we'll talk about that this Wednesday.
11:23:04 Have Francine Yeah.
11:23:12 Right the quillen couple lots of meetings with the residents, and we had Orca and my first finance meeting at work very strong finances there as the vice chair I attend I
11:23:20 I share the the Finance Committee, now agenda, planning for our Board of Health.
11:23:24 This past week we already talked about, and I went to the South Bay Club Association, first in-person meeting to give a little presentation of the state of the county, and then
also met the with the drainage district the port level
11:23:37 of grated system continuing to navigate some of the challenges about.
11:23:42 You know new developments that are in the map of the drainage district, but are having some, you know, earlier stormwater issues than plan.
11:23:50 So just kind of. but they're doing a great job flushing that out and really appreciate the work of you know.
11:23:55 Yeah, Dean and Gary and Mike, who who took up took up that mantle and are really doing this proud.
11:24:05 I attended the Prtpo for kate's I was, you know, there, black.
11:24:11 The The administrator was great and kind of bringing me up to speed, and you know I kept a pretty.
11:24:16 Get my nose down a little bit and listen. but the good conversations there can I can.
11:24:20 I for a second to say thank you for covering for me, and I I think it the reminded me that whenever we cover for each other we need to clarify if it's a voting position or just
11:24:33 sitting in, and that's something I I failed to do there, and I think it caused some confusion.
11:24:36 So I apologize. but just as a reminder that we all need to think like Oh, , you know if i'm if you're gonna cover for me, I should be prepared to say like are you just listening
in or is
11:24:46 who's the alternate, you know sorry about that. And that reminds me, we still have work to do, because our your alternate.
11:24:53 Your second alternative is Monty. right now. second alternate is someone who no longer works with us.
11:24:58 But who is there in another capacity? And it was also helpful.
11:25:02 So we do need to update who the and I think having a Commissioner and the county engineer is. Probably we did do that.
11:25:10 We did update it and correct it as just like that great great and that was pretty much all the 2 weeks ago. this coming week tomorrow.
11:25:17 I'm you know i'll do some email and stuff but i'm pretty off personal life, we have a lot of old chicken.
11:25:23 So It's chicken calling day tomorrow and then the naming call the naming committee of the the Quilting Empower Teams Coalition on Wednesday as well as the housing
11:25:34 fun board on Thursday. We have the the Jeff Com meeting kind of push facing to give them in that tour about the the proclamation we signed a couple weeks ago, and in physical
that I want to give them.
11:25:46 We have a special meeting of the swack solid waste advisory committee, and if we had a a snapshot with the last meeting, so it's kind of a makeup meeting and then Friday
11:26:00 i'm gonna go look at the anyway site for another potential Vnr sale.
11:26:06 So walking that property on Friday so really a fairly fairly like week on the calendar so far, but they usually end up filling pretty full great.
11:26:21 Well, one thing I would mention to you guys on boards and committees.
11:26:23 Julie and I took a scan of those, and I think this is our agenda for later this afternoon.
11:26:28 But I just wanna plant the scene that we're all gonna need to find a system representative for the pift board.
11:26:41 Turning over their role to somebody else so and pencil housing authority. I've I've recommended a few.
11:26:49 I actually recommended all the folks that had applied to the Housing Fund Board, and so connected them with those people.
11:26:54 So , So yeah, we want Jefferson County representation on on Peninsula housing authority that . district 2 as well. Peninsula housing authority because of the apartments There
, The other thing on
11:27:12 swack is, was glad to see my foot, my recycling flyer, and my utility bill this week.
11:27:18 So that was good. Yeah, the new, the new recycling rules and guidance are in, and everybody's power and water power water bills this week, can you understand the
11:27:31 You said that the pretensing collection will be different, even though all that comes to our transfer station also. No, what I said is, we recently started group side service
in South Korea.
11:27:44 I live, and we are served by Clown County. They, the you know.
11:27:48 The same company comes to us from Clown County. So we have a different and makeup of our recycling, and we do in port towns, and which is coast of ours, and and and that the
transportation, Okay, So
11:28:00 when we when we communicate about it it's i'm sorry I mean it still will be by far most users.
11:28:09 Any drop off. Any drop off will change all of port towns, and will be the new one , and then other than that you should contact the company that you contract with, which is
usually I guess
11:28:36 Olympic disposal. Olympic disposal is is Yes, Yeah. Right?
11:28:37 Dm. disposal I think yeah yeah there's so many names, But they will take depending on where you are. They'll take your recycling to different counties.
11:28:41 So like Are you still with Dm. Murray's Okay, it's gonna be hard to communicate.
11:28:49 If you get curbside, you should check with your I mean that's that's the easiest communication.
11:28:53 Just double double check, and I would also say that throwing away plastic that is ostensibly recyclable.
11:29:03 But ends up corrupting the recycling is probably not a bad policy, so i'll i'll get a little bit of clarity on that or i'll ask the question at least to swack, this week.
11:29:13 But I would say it's it's never a bad idea to restrict to those ones, and 2 is bottles and jugs and lids are not recyclable.
11:29:23 The mouth is smaller than the body of the bottle or Jug.
11:29:29 Those are recyclable that's it So I told my husband cause I have to be clear you know.
11:29:36 Do you think we could get a a map from a Dm.
11:29:40 Of where? . yeah, which service I think that's a great idea they have.
11:29:46 They have represent representation at sweat so i'll make sure to ask that great Thank you.
11:29:54 I'm sorry no i'm meaning to ask like this, and we can only do it here.
11:29:55 It's an important discussion. So this week I have finance committee meeting tomorrow morning.
11:30:02 First thing with Stacy and others, and then I am really focusing on as many of as much of my May sixteenth workshop prep as I can over the next couple of days, just teeing up
conversations that I need
11:30:19 to have with junior taxing districts, and some were working with some folks.
11:30:25 I'm doing a carbon assessment of that timber stand, and just trying to understand all the variables.
11:30:32 So. I have a list from it's my wake up in the middle of the night thing right now is
11:30:38 The list of different data that I wanna be able to share with you guys.
11:30:43 Then it's it's a mounting list so I need to focus on that.
11:30:47 So I may just work from home tomorrow, and potentially Wednesday, too, and just focus on that.
11:30:54 But always available. because Kate gave me the good tip before I was even a commissioner.
11:31:02 If you ever need to get studying done or concentrated work done, That's that's a good time to work at home at your desk in the door close Hmm.
11:31:13 So that might work for me, cause i've not been having much luck fitting it in between other things.
11:31:17 Have a community foundation Grant review session tomorrow. I'm gonna join the Usda Director's tour for lunch on Thursday at Ben River will be fun to meet her.
11:31:35 She's a well regarded former county commissioner from just across the water here.
11:31:41 So i've met her in that role a couple of times. But whenever I talk to anyone on with the island they miss her solely in that role, and it will be fun to see her in this new
role.
11:31:53 Trustland transfer advocates meeting tomorrow. Mark and I will do it, or Thursday.
11:32:02 Sorry, Mark and I will do agenda prep. on Thursday.
11:32:06 I am going to go to the Price Street and help mask with some tree planting.
11:32:12 Thursday afternoon, early evening. where the timber touch was happening.
11:32:19 Nask is gonna put some trees in, and then another area, Jason, to that to stabilize the slope where it actually could slide into the salmon spawning red.
11:32:28 There. Friday. I have the coordinate community response.
11:32:38 Team meeting with Ymca. with tanya Barnett.
11:32:42 I don't know if you're planning on going to that Greg, I think I've i've been so not present that she doesn't even okay so I think I've been going so that's
11:32:51 fine, and then I have a trust line transfer work group meeting on Friday, and my my meeting invite here.
11:33:02 Singing is protein makes me sad because i'm not sure he's gonna be with us. I don't know how we're gonna transition that leadership on that work group so .
11:33:10 But he may he's he's doing a light load so maybe he's gonna keep the work group. I don't know.
11:33:16 I hope so. And then Friday afternoon, early evening i'm going to the play, the same field farm play spring play at the Grange.
11:33:27 I'm also gonna attend the grange. is reinstituting its monthly meetings, and i'm gonna attend that on Wednesday evening
11:33:36 And then I noticed, just as we were meeting this morning, that I have some chimicum drainage improvement district work to do, so that quest to re and activate the timicum drainage
district is still moving forward and I think
11:33:52 I have a major role in it as it's defined so trying to understand what that is, and how it can be a productive partner for Conservation District and the landowners in the drainage
district will be part of my
11:34:07 work going forward cool. Do we have budget meeting on wednesday, I don't have it on my calendar and I didn't have today's noon meeting on my calendar so I double booked with
11:34:20 wasack today. I almost did
11:34:33 Oh, okay, Well, i'll be there. does she just send it , responsive.
11:34:54 Okay, so that's fine going forward then? am I going forward? Report anything else, Mark?
11:35:00 What do you have this week? Did you already well you're doing that mark?
11:35:15 Quick question. Do we anticipate people attending in person today?
11:35:20 And over the new hour, the quarterly elected it says, virtual, Okay, But yeah. So we don't have to reconfigure the room.
11:35:32 Okay, thank you. Yeah. So let's see yeah finance committee meeting tomorrow.
11:35:41 18 meeting in the afternoon tomorrow. Budget Committee on Wednesday. housing Fun board on Wednesday afternoon, Thursday.
11:35:54 Jeopcom admin board agenda prep. with Heidi Thursday afternoon.
11:36:04 Covid Coordination on Friday. and then of course that Fort Warden event at at 3 o'clock.
11:36:16 That's it for me
11:36:24 So. is there anything else we wanna do this morning? anyone have anything that's been needing some time on the calendar?
11:36:34 Wow! luxury here I did notice couple of things.
11:36:45 Just for our planning We don't have a meeting on may thirtieth.
11:36:47 It's a fifth Monday unless we were to decide otherwise.
11:36:51 And then if you saw that email from Sarah about the June team, so also June the twentieth of 2, so that would be moved to the 20 first.
11:36:59 So in honor of juneeenth, celebrated on the twentieth this year,
11:37:08 And I'm gonna try and take much of that last week in May first week of June.
11:37:15 That time for him off, because it has a show opening in Edison on the fourth, and usually that's an all-consuming 4 day thing.
11:37:26 And so I think the only thing i'm gonna try and intend that week is the Library meeting on Wednesday
11:37:36 So that's gonna be my break hmm
11:37:46 Any other calendar coordination. We want to do
11:37:55 Hmm just shouted down a note for myself it's his West End, and I have no idea what it's referring to.
11:38:01 I just did it a minute ago i'm thinking of
11:38:12 I'm thinking it's time for accounting trip ,
11:38:30 No, and I and we could break a little bit early and have lunch.
11:38:35 It's a little hard to eat lunch. here at the dance, together with asking I think i'll probably attend the the noon time for my I wouldn't mind prepping it in my my
11:38:49 meal. Yes, maybe perhaps not a shareable meal I Yeah, I know I brought ram and like .
11:39:00 Made Ramen. I think it's gonna be a mess camera off.
11:39:07 Yeah, I forgot that we were having that quarterly elected so I didn't.
11:39:10 I didn't bring along we okay Well, Then let's let's recess until 1 30.
11:39:22 No, no, no, cause we're gonna the the part of the meeting is Is this meeting
11:39:33 And then our quarterly elected and directors meeting goes from noon to one, and then we'll receive recess at one till 1 30, and then we'll reconvene for our commissioner's meeting
at 1 30 sounds
12:01:31 I just started having audio right now. Okay,
12:01:50 So I know we have a light agenda today, because there was interest in having more of a round table.
12:01:56 So I think there was one item on the Agenda mark that you added, I'm not sure if Sarah's covering this, but health insurance premium holiday for Uscw.
12:02:08 And exempt employees. No need to reconvene so somebody's got a mute av capture.
12:02:22 Oh, that might be me. I was gonna say I think it's you Mark. Sorry I go.
12:02:28 I get here with someone chewing i'm just kidding That was me, too.
12:02:32 Yeah, so i'll turn it over to sarah she's got some decent news. We he still has to reconvene this session.
12:02:42 Thank you. calling us back to order we're reconvening for quarterly elected and directors on meeting.
12:02:53 Okay, Now we'll turn it over to sarah to talk about our health insurance premium holiday.
12:03:00 So good afternoon. to everybody on this beautiful Monday and spring.
12:03:08 This topic is the health insurance premium for Ufcw.
12:03:14 And exempt employees. So to give you a little background on what this is.
12:03:21 Sound health and wellness. Trust, is the insurer for medical provided to our employees who are in the Ufcw.
12:03:30 Barkening unit as well as to exempt employees, and in the most recent Ufcw contract that was adopted in 2,021.
12:03:44 There are inclusion in the language The A medical premium would be waved for all employees covered in sound health or through sound health.
12:03:59 And so what does this mean? What this means is that employees who receive insurance through sound health will have a waiver to their medical premium, which the waiver began
in March, and is anticipated to last through December
12:04:17 30, first, 2,023, that is, borrowing any change from trust.
12:04:28 So if we were notified by the trust, there was a change.
12:04:33 Then the premium would begin again. So you may ask in your employees may ask, Well, how much will I save?
12:04:42 So the calculation is a little bit complicated. employees have both a weekly and a monthly premium.
12:04:50 The weekly premium is dependent on how many Saturdays there are in the month, and the overall monthly premium is dependent on what plan you have.
12:05:01 So if you're an individual person you may pay less than a person in their spouse and or a person, and their family, however, in general and it employee, one employee is anticipated
to save approximately $1,700 over
12:05:23 this time period. so it's quite a significant Savings to our employees covered under the the Ufcw.
12:05:33 Bargaining agreement, and to those exempt employees who also receive their insurance through some health.
12:05:43 And so the the waiver was anticipated. It did begin with the
12:05:54 With that becoming obvious in somebody's april fifth hey?
12:06:02 However, because the county had been in negotiations for more information from Zenith administrators who administrator administrate the health plan.
12:06:12 We weren't yet clear on what was happening with the weekly premium.
12:06:18 So, while employees did not have the 15% taken out for their monthly, they still paid their weekly premium.
12:06:26 So in May, employees are going to get a separate check that will return or refund that weekly premium.
12:06:37 So it gets more confusing, and if if you or your staff have specific questions, please feel free to call me or call payroll
12:06:54 Does anyone have any questions about that, Sarah? What what is the weekly premium?
12:07:00 And how's how's that different so the weekly premium it's I. I don't know why in sound health there's both a weekly and a monthly premium and that weekly premium
12:07:15 is dependent, as I said, on how many Saturdays there are in a month.
12:07:24 And let me see what that here
12:07:35 I think the I. This is Veronica. I think the difference between the weekly and the monthly.
12:07:40 The weekly is for the family coverage, and the monthly is for the individual or the full.
12:07:49 But that's just my so the weekly premium charge.
12:07:54 It's $9 a week for individual coverage $23 for family.
12:08:00 But the employee pays 15% of that so paying that total amount.
12:08:06 So it'd be if it's for an individual 9 if there was 4 Saturdays in the month.
12:08:12 They'd be paying 15% of $36.
12:08:16 Thank you for that my understanding yes, No, it it won't be significant.
12:08:27 But it will true up what we're supposed to do and so it's really a quite a benefit to many of our employees.
12:08:39 Sure. So did you have a question? I did. I was wondering. just so.
12:08:48 Did you say it started in March of this year? and it runs to December of 2023, okay, So it'll go all next year. Yeah.
12:08:59 Okay, thank you. Yeah. And that's for Ufcw. covered employees, and for the extent, thanks, you, Sarah, do you understand the name like the underlying cause of this apparently
from what I've heard from Bob
12:09:18 Ron, who is our expert in these matters? Is that sound health and wellness?
12:09:24 And you have ccw is the union that represents thousands of employees who work in grocery stores who tend to be younger and healthy, and so apparently based on that and the good
management they're extending
12:09:48 this benefit to their employees
12:09:57 Cool. Yeah, Any other questions questions for Sarah on this one or anyone have anything else to add?
12:10:07 I think is relieved of having to pay a share also. So that's that's good is good you're really quiet, Mark.
12:10:18 It's that I went into settings and but I suppose I can speak up better.
12:10:29 No, you're really quiet. Okay, Well, let's move around table and I'll try to figure out how to any shows you being stick
12:10:46 So and I suggest a a process thing with the round table.
12:10:50 Could could somebody start and then pass it to somebody else so that We don't get stuck staring at the zoom screen for very long?
12:10:59 Yeah, I can't hear you mark Oh, jeff jeff's gonna start off awesome.
12:11:07 I think again. We used to have round tables with these meetings.
12:11:11 Of course it was great to meet in person, because we'd be down there and steal each other's cookies. well, literally cookies, because they'd bring cookies to these, but it was
great.
12:11:21 I was, it was my opportunity to hear from what all the other offices were doing and I really enjoyed that, and it'll be great when we can do that again in person.
12:11:31 But today's just as good so i'll start off my office is
12:11:36 I. Last year I was really worried. What would happen in 2,020?
12:11:39 2, because I had 3 major senior staff retirements going into a market.
12:11:46 That was real estate market that was going up about 10 to 15%.
12:11:50 So here I am in 2022. I have 3 relatively new employees.
12:11:55 2 are still trainees valuing property the market is going up by 25%.
12:12:03 And it's just nuts I mean I just heard the other day that people were going around and Cape George knocking on doors, saying, Do you want to sell your house.
12:12:11 I'll give you whatever you want and i'll give you a cash.
12:12:14 There's a lot of people with money coming here that wanna live here, and the money is not what's holding them back.
12:12:22 So if so, here we are valuing. I have to value every property every year.
12:12:28 1 6 of the county. We, my new appraises are inspecting and thanks.
12:12:32 Goodness, they're turning out to be very competent people in our learning very quickly, but that still leaves me with the other 5 6 of the county that I have to start applying
2025% across the boarding increases and I
12:12:46 know very well some of those properties aren't going up by 2025%.
12:12:51 But that's the only that's the way the law reads, and that's what I have to do i'll mitigate it as best I can But But But it is gonna be not crazy I mean i'm
12:13:02 gonna have a lot of people going. You gotta be kidding me when they get notices.
12:13:05 Later this year i'll do what I can i'll try to reach those folks that are in pro not going up that really aren't going up by 25%.
12:13:16 But the cross. the board increases are doing that. and my!
12:13:21 My new appraises will have to be veteran and praises by the end of the year to handle the appeals and the counter questions that come up with that.
12:13:29 So it's going to be a very very crazy year for valuing a property.
12:13:35 And the other thing, too, is that things I think that are our values are i'm going.
12:13:38 This is nuts I got this property. on i'm going from 300,000 to $700,000 doubling the value, and I know It's not worth 700,000.
12:13:46 Well, it's selling for 1.4 million so we still got these bidding wars going on it's going to be unbelievable to county residents.
12:13:57 What's really going on there hopefully there's a point at which it'll stop it'll go back to normal logical processes.
12:14:02 But i'm very thankful for my staff and i'm i'm thankful for the veterans one the staff who have been stick who are still with me, and and the fact that we we manage to get some
good new
12:14:13 hires. Thank you,
12:14:21 Can you pass it to someone else. Okay, sure, i'll pass it to Ruth.
12:14:28 The clerks office persists we, we are very fortunate to not have lost.
12:14:35 I should knock on wood. not have lost any of our experience, staff, and many, many years.
12:14:41 So we are status quo. we chip away very slowly at the Blake project.
12:14:49 Just because no orders are coming to us right now, and we no longer initiate them.
12:14:55 So a spontaneous started to receive reimbursement for the refunds that were paid out.
12:15:01 And you know. Not a lot of news. oh, actually wrong.
12:15:05 Lots of news. i'm sorry forgot about houseville 1818 18 was this thing that basically changed the numbers.
12:15:13 The the written out numbers to digital numbers and we weren't watching it With the very last moment it got an amendment, and the legislature has taken away all of the funding
for collection developers in the future the local
12:15:27 level. So i'm talking with James about ending our memorandum of understanding with the Doc.
12:15:34 And giving collections back to the deals. So stay tuned on that, Roseanne, would you like to go next
12:15:46 Mozanne you're muted roseanne Oh, there you go
12:15:53 You can't hear you
12:15:58 Because then we can't hear you and we can't see you
12:16:04 What's your hand is that
12:16:15 I mean Ruth, you're muted now true so would somebody else like to be called on while Roseanne fixes her audio.
12:16:23 Hi, Jo, you go ahead Thanks. things are going well out here at the sheriff's office, just like a couple of things to touch on.
12:16:31 We had our body cam programs and full swing now seems to be working well.
12:16:37 We're starting to get some public microsoft request for video footage, which is proving daunting
12:16:46 There's you often you have to not only redact the big video, but the audio as well.
12:16:52 So you can imagine it's not something you like do both at the same time.
12:16:57 So anyway, our navigator program is still going, and just keeps my opinion getting better every day, becoming more integrated with
12:17:07 The fire department, getting on board with the library to be able to call just just becoming more of a part of everything.
12:17:17 The city called the other day for our navigator on the radio because they needed help with a call.
12:17:23 And It was cool to hear Steven answer up on the radio and say he was in route down to the pier where a woman was having a problem.
12:17:33 So that that's working really well we're we like all the rest of us.
12:17:38 We're having problems with hiring and we did hire a person for the jail the other day he started lives on Widby Island, but is also put a put a some money down on a house and
swim, so
12:17:54 So now we're only down 4 in the jail but and then we're interviewing this week, too, for our front office.
12:18:01 One of those people would be the person that would either be the video redactor or or replace someone that's already here.
12:18:12 That'll be doing that one thing, I wanted to bring up about hiring and I don't know I don't know if we've talked about this much, but starting to hear a little friction from
the troops.
12:18:24 But kits have now is for a lateral deputy.
12:18:27 They're given a $25,000 bonus and for the people that are there.
12:18:32 If they signed a state for 2 years they're giving them $10,000.
12:18:36 So now there's bonuses to keep people to stay in
12:18:41 Wow! To me it seems like that should be illegal or something.
12:18:43 I mean it really doesn't make it fair for the other agencies that that don't have that kind of money.
12:18:52 So you know, as hard as it. is it's making it even harder now to to to find people so, and and to you know, depending on we have we we have one right now.
12:19:06 That's going through the background. process for kids out it it's. he's only been here a couple of years, but and he lives in kids app So you know we we did try to spread out
a little where people could live to try to make
12:19:19 it a little more appealing to work here. but Anyway, it whether that's going to become an an actual challenge in the future, or do just the way that to pay off your employees
extra.
12:19:33 To stay so anyway. another thing I wanted to add and and I i'm not sure if I should. but I will.
12:19:42 We're we're in the at the we're in negotiation with the contract with the city to provide law enforcement service in the evening.
12:19:52 So for at least for a couple of months because they're really down on their people.
12:19:56 So more to come on that. but just wanted to put that out there.
12:20:03 So I and I don't know if anyone has any questions for me that's all I have.
12:20:08 And it's no question. Oh, go ahead, jeff Joe is there any way that kids have.
12:20:14 County will pay our employees some extra money so they don't move to Kits up county.
12:20:19 I didn't think of it from that angle Yeah, Maybe the State will start putting out some grants to keep your employees.
12:20:28 So anyway. i'll go ahead and i'll i'll pick on Stacey.
12:20:36 I'll get here working on getting ready for annual report items and just daily continued implementation with munice and taxes are due Monday.
12:20:48 Please make sure if you own property and your mortgage company doesn't pay it, that you do
12:20:58 Yeah, it was available revenues for 2020.
12:21:07 2 are now greater than expenses in the general fund so That's great.
12:21:12 Yes, Yup, thank you, Mark. Yes, And so we have our Finance Committee meeting tomorrow morning.
12:21:21 With Heidi as the chair of the Commissioners and Auditor Roseanne and Mark and some others.
12:21:28 And then we have the Budget Committee meeting Wednesday.
12:21:30 So we'll look forward to diving into the figures so if any questions otherwise.
12:21:37 I. I refer to this as our first super bowl of the year.
12:21:42 The second one is Halloween, October 30 first.
12:21:45 So the 2 tax days, hey? days! Do we need to get a walk on the calendar that'd be great, thank Thank you.
12:21:55 Yes, Joe Staffing is going. Do you? Are you up to fall now or no?
12:22:02 I i'm joking that I am helping the community at large by offering jobs, and then they go back to where they're working now, and they when they say they're gonna leave they get
promotions and raises so I
12:22:19 am helping people out there. we're not necessarily getting people the in our office.
12:22:24 But I do have the one position for for closer avoidance.
12:22:29 You know you're looking at $23 an hour and I have another position to open up.
12:22:37 That is similar to, you know. other positions in the county, like the Health Department, who might know has had trouble finding someone for that level.
12:22:46 So I need to get that out there. but i'm also not optimistic, just because those those same types of positions are are currently open and not finding people.
12:22:57 Well, just like, I said, We have some interviews this week.
12:23:01 We have 2 people to interview for 2 jobs, so yeah and great I do want to get going on.
12:23:07 Indeed, i'm hearing from other people that really wear their finding success is getting on.
12:23:14 Indeed, and reaching out to people who fit certain qualification but i've also heard that because the jobs when they uploaded their they show the date we posted it so if mine's
in you know a long time ago,
12:23:32 that they're never seeing them as new jobs opening even though they were just posted to.
12:23:38 Indeed. so you know the challenges of knowing how it gets presented, and how we could hopefully get some spotlight on those areas where people are looking, but might not go
far enough back to find us
12:24:00 So. thank you. Oh, So Do we have any volunteers, or oh, oh,
12:24:09 Veronica on to you thanks so i'll just share that we're in the same boat as everyone Else's you know.
12:24:18 We have 6 jobs posted right now. on our county website.
12:24:25 With 2 more positions that are going to be vacant here shortly.
12:24:31 And we're struggling you know we are getting a few applicants right now.
12:24:37 Our applications right now for one of our environmental health specialist positions.
12:24:43 But the others. were just not get we're not getting any so we're we are concerned, especially with our nursing positions.
12:24:52 You know we just I don't know it's the times have changed so we're hopeful but
12:25:01 We don't know what we're gonna do if we don't get our nurses in so so anyway. and then we have a nutritionist position that will be vacant here here in June this
12:25:13 person's been with us for many years. and we have worked with Sarah and Bob Braun, and we will actually be contracting that position now, instead of having it be part of the
bargaining unit which is very common
12:25:28 statewide and other Oh, j's and and then Linda Atkins will be going out this fall.
12:25:37 So, and Susan photos out at the end of this month.
12:25:42 So we have some long time employees, who are retiring now with more to come
12:25:53 Veronica, If you have to contract for hire a contract employee, Does that, do you?
12:25:58 Worry about pay equity, or or is it something where you figure out the total cost for county employee?
12:26:06 And then I put that in there, plus probably a kicker, for I mean, does it work?
12:26:12 Okay, to have contact employees. Well, we you know we've done that before.
12:26:17 And so yeah, we'll be making it as equitable as possible.
12:26:23 You know, looking at the what the Union employees been making and you know also the benefit.
12:26:29 You know them not getting benefits, and so on. So yeah, we we do.
12:26:33 We do look at all of that
12:26:38 Or the con? Can you? Can you just get a contracted employee, or are they hard to find, too?
12:26:44 Or do you know? Well, it can be just as challenging ?
12:26:51 Especially with this being so specialized. you know being a nutritionist.
12:26:57 So we'll see how it goes
12:27:04 Rozanne we can't hear you you're muted
12:27:10 No. no, I had to call in on my phone We can't hear you. Roseanne Roseanne.
12:27:19 You can dial in on the phone without leaving the meeting, just by clicking up on the mute button and clicking.
12:27:23 Join by phone audio and it'll tell you a phone number it'll just move your audio over to your phone
12:27:35 It's strange though with it
12:27:44 I'll just put the plug in that sometimes it does it, even though we know our computers well.
12:27:50 I think the fact that we bounce around from different platforms just confuses our systems is somebody else.
12:28:00 Somebody else wanna go while Roseanne's figuring out her computer rent, or Monty or
12:28:06 Okay, I can. I can take off , so and the DCD, we still continue to have record numbers of of applications.
12:28:19 And I think what Jeff alluded to and people going door to door, and Kate George is the crux of the problem is that there isn't enough inventory.
12:28:30 So raw land is being developed, and and they come to us once they get a parcel to develop.
12:28:34 So we're seeing that that increase in in permit activity that has been sustained year over year.
12:28:44 We've been having records and meaning essentially 2,020 was a record which was only passed by surpassed by 2021, and and the record is likely to continue because of that we
have a sort of
12:29:03 a crisis situation in our front desk because we've lost one of our team members resigned and so we haven't enough trained staff to handle the front desk.
12:29:17 So so we're trying to pull staff from planning but there's some concerns about the them not being able to complete their work, given their other responsibilities and the cams,
and so we're trying to
12:29:35 juggle that that's probably our biggest problem right now and it that is really that front.
12:29:44 And so juries jodies up at the front office right now. i'm going to go up and help because of this crisis in just not having that. and going to what Sheriff Noel, said we're
12:29:57 getting staff for getting offers from other governments the front staff person who's been with us the longest.
12:30:05 It's been the ports reached out to her with job offers twice now
12:30:09 And so we're trying to to keep that a float.
12:30:16 That would be a major concern on the good news. wanna Make sure we have some good news to end with.
12:30:21 Is that we have we're able to save the fcat Grant.
12:30:27 We had no responses for the fcap, so we had to combine little quill and big quill, remove the implementation.
12:30:38 Sort of similar. I saw that. there was that approval.
12:30:44 That moni's team put in 50% above the engineers estimate, and then they reduce the scope.
12:30:50 So we did essentially the same thing. We reduce the scope
12:30:56 By removing the duck of bush relocation and put put that money into the rest of the budget, and we were able to get one of the best firms in the in the State.
12:31:05 Esa to do that work. so we're really Lucky we do have a firm, and so little Quill will have its first comprehensive flood hazard management plan. hey?
12:31:17 Brent. Now, could you say what the acronym is in English?
12:31:23 Some people. Yeah. So that is well, it means the flood control assistance account program.
12:31:28 But what that does is it creates our comprehensive flood, hazard management plan for the little and big quill rivers, and so that that looks at is well where the bottlenecks
were the homes that are likely be damaged or
12:31:42 destroyed. and what can we do to prevent that? And they put a list of suggested options forward.
12:31:51 And so We had also in this grant plan to implement some of the recommendations that came out of another plan for the duck of Bush.
12:32:03 But we didn't have enough money to do both in this grant So that's why we're just going to get a comprehensive plan for both the little and big quill.
12:32:10 We also are. I have to finish and post today the measurement equivalent residential units.
12:32:19 For the port headlock. the excuse me for Brennan, and or we should even shouldn't even call it Brennan, because it's really the point harbor master planned resort so I want
to make sure that i'm using
12:32:33 the proper term and That's the term that we're using in the term of our pleasant harbor master plan resort, and the port Ludlow. Looking at ensuring that we have a consultant
retained in response to the
12:32:46 concern that we heard about transparency and process
12:32:54 And then at last item, I wanted to share with you is Oh, and and in that line we also have the sea level Rise, Grant going out.
12:33:04 We'll sure have rfps coming in on that we have a public hearing.
12:33:07 This on May the Fourth on the homeless housing ordinance.
12:33:13 And Greg. Thank you for helping on that press release. We got that out.
12:33:16 Just got that to the leader this morning. the lot of record.
12:33:21 That Commissioner Dean. Kate. Thank you for providing comment.
12:33:25 Assistant came to the planning commission we need to make it a little more understandable for the community.
12:33:33 I'm still realizing that a lot of people don't understand what growth management means that when we that and so we need to explain that in this outreach what is growth management
people don't seem to really understand that and
12:33:48 then we have 4 major projects that are going forward right now.
12:33:54 Maristone in and that is excavation.
12:34:01 Do. We also have another project that we didn't think would be controversial, but has turned out to be that's the promona woods.
12:34:08 I believe heidi's been fielding a lot of telephone calls on that project, and that's a 24 bed.
12:34:15 Tourist resort type of retreat center, and then
12:34:23 And I think that really pretty much covers it for for our apart for our department. We're we're we've got a We got a really new team member which i'm excited to have She was
a firefighter and she's
12:34:35 got went to planning school, and so we have a new member of the team, Emily Lemura.
12:34:42 So she just joined us in the last 2 weeks and congratulations.
12:34:48 Thank you. I think rosanne's on by phone so, Rozanne, you wanna you wanna go now
12:35:06 Still can't hear you she was unmuted and She's muted again.
12:35:10 Star 6 to unmute Roseanne
12:35:19 Or 6. Is that what she presses? Yeah, there she is.
12:35:22 Can you hear me now? Yeah, and go? Okay, You guys are seeing it in my picture.
12:35:29 There keeps you being upset like there's an interruption to this, See it, or am I the only one seeing it?
12:35:38 Okay, on. my picture. if you watch it you'll see a flash every now like something something's weird, anyway. Okay, So I totally unplug the speakers from my computer and i'm
on my phone what I wanted to let you
12:35:52 know is we got in the new tabulators for elections we're using the old ones.
12:35:59 So for the A April 20 sixth election, which is in progress right now, will be the girl. The ladies will be training on those new tabulators at the end of this month.
12:36:10 The Grant Administrator. Open position we have. we are still in negotiation with the person that was our number.
12:36:22 One selection through the interview process so we don't have a hard no, yet.
12:36:26 So that looks good. and as usual and from what i'm hearing from everyone else the firing I still have a open position in for accounts payable.
12:36:40 That's been open since january not getting I haven't got one application for that I haven't checked today, though, so they're might be one and I Guess that's about it unless
anybody has any questions
12:36:55 I think there was some discussion about the weekly contributions for Uscw.
12:37:00 Just as I got on I ended up getting on at 5 after 12.
12:37:07 So did Was there any questions for us in payroll or anything from that I don't think I see your flash.
12:37:18 You are like a very slow, slow strobe light there so I do see it.
12:37:25 I don't understand what it is i'm I don't know feel like i'm in a different time zone of some sort.
12:37:31 I don't know. Well, we can hear you we can hear you just fine.
12:37:36 Okay, so does anybody have any questions on the supplemental weekly contribution or any of that?
12:37:45 I think it was just Sarah said it would be a separate check, or will it be the direct deposit, or will it?
12:37:54 Okay, So how that will roll out on the May fifth payroll?
12:38:01 Anyone. The supplementally supplemental weekly contribution was sent to the trust.
12:38:06 They received the full they should have received But we were in the process of processing the April the march hours in April, and didn't get guidance till 7 days after we processed
cable.
12:38:20 So what will happen is those people that do pre tax before their medical is taken out.
12:38:28 They will see an adjustment on their either live check or their notice of deposit for their direct deposit.
12:38:37 Those that have post tax will receive a separate check without a adjustment out of accounts payable, and that will be put in, dated 5 5, and put in the mail directly to them.
12:38:54 Thank you. So I know. mendy's here and Brian, and also, Monty, do any of you want to go any updates? Mendy, at last.
12:39:08 Are you on mute? Thank you. Nice to see everyone today.
12:39:13 Just record. Things are going quite well in district court as far as the court calendars are going to schedule.
12:39:20 We've we've resumed all trials of both just recorded.
12:39:25 Superior court, and that's going fairly well although we haven't had one in some time, However, we are very low staffed right now.
12:39:33 I think that that's common dame then several of the departments, and so that has presented quite a few challenges.
12:39:41 But we're hopeful to have some new people on board soon
12:39:48 Does anyone have any questions for myself or for Brian?
12:39:55 How's it going? transitioning to in person we currently Are a hybrid system still, where we have zoom available?
12:40:06 And that's likely to continue although we're encouraging people to common person, and we still have about half and half so about how people are coming in person and half our
appearing over zoom. one of the purposes of continuing
12:40:18 with the hybrid system is so that people who live either out of the county or Weston can come and access the court, and have, you know, be able to see myself in a in a really
good way.
12:40:34 It used to be that all of those hearings were done over the phone and the phone was extremely unreliable, and it's also helped improve access to interpreters and that sort of
thing.
12:40:43 So I I don't anticipate the zoom process going away anytime soon, right in the ends got a question on on jurors.
12:40:54 Is, Is it jurors going to be are they going to be vetted at the front door, or are they going to be on first floor, or just just now that you're having live trials again?
12:41:04 So how it has gone in the past couple of trials is that someone will be done at the the front door just asking some basic questions about how people are feeling, and unless
someone is indicating that they have coded symptoms
12:41:20 are allowed in the building. and we We are still social distancing, so like in District Court, we are either using the superior court to hold our board year, which is where
most the biggest concentration of jurors.
12:41:37 Happen, or we are holding 2 panels one in the morning, and one in the afternoon, and I know that superior court is also splitting their panels and having more than one panel
so that way we're not having you know 60
12:41:48 people come all at once. Thank you.
12:41:56 Any other question. Oh, Heidi, no, I was just gonna say the same thing.
12:42:00 You just send any other questions. Alright, thank you. Anyone next Monty James Monty, I see you gazing out the window.
12:42:16 Are you unmuted? Can you hear me not having computer problems?
12:42:20 That's great. sure lots going on in public works some nice projects going on cedar avenue lighted sidewalk.
12:42:31 If you dream through there That's coming along pretty Well, kind of bridge going on out on Thorndyke Road.
12:42:39 To restore fish passage on Thorndy Creek, a bridge going on out on Tower Creek, on the Upper Hoe road, with the Federal highways, and I think the board just awarded the jump
12:42:51 playground project. So that'll be starting this summer so Jefferson.
12:42:57 Universal movement playground at H. J. carroll park it's about a 1 million plus dollar playground.
12:43:04 And should be the only facility of its kind within at least an an hour Drive in any direction.
12:43:14 Of course the road crew is busy. as we get into summer construction and chip seal season, and all that, and solid waste is still processing.
12:43:28 Large volumes of recycling and solid waste materials out there.
12:43:34 And Parks is very busy, all of our campgrounds, which are seeing record use and parks as well.
12:43:43 And we do have pretty good staffing in parks. For the first time.
12:43:50 In a long time a position was added, and we were able to fill it. We were not able to fill the clerk higher position, but we have
12:43:59 An additional full-time person working with Molene Andre, and a half time person, Well, full time But seasonal, I should say, which is great to keep up with the demand of parks
also.
12:44:13 Was great to see matt tyler partner with the sheriff's office to start kind of a new program, where, on the weekends some share of step it easily be making regular visits to
the campgrounds which
12:44:28 were funding that. but it's in lieu of having dedicated park rangers we don't have any.
12:44:37 But the camp grounds where we have a lot of the issues, and so really appreciate that Joe.
12:44:45 Great to see your team and our team working together on that so yeah, I'm sorry that it just couldn't be part of patrol.
12:44:53 But yeah, we just don't have the people yeah I know Yeah, it's being done as a what before after shift kind of overtime thing. But again, just having that regular presence there
on the busy days and having your people get to know
12:45:10 the the camp ground seems a little bit better, and having the direct phone numbers for our staff to contact each other's, you know.
12:45:18 Really great and I know you have a part. Range your background.
12:45:24 So you understand the kind of issues that we we deal with there.
12:45:30 So trying to work my way back into the parks. eventually
12:45:42 Correct. thank you. And Matt has been picking his way through some of those projects.
12:45:53 Trying to remember rerout the bathroom at Hj. Carroll.
12:46:00 We got bids for resurfacing the basketball courts at Hj.
12:46:04 Carroll, working on a part of the fence Restoration at Memorial Field.
12:46:12 What through some other things I know i'm forgetting Mark, But he's working his way.
12:46:21 We have the field, the annual field treatments, you know, for deep time, iteration and top dressing.
12:46:28 Oh, the big one was a company that redid the irrigation system at
12:46:33 Hj. Carol Park, which was they did it for less than our Sdk.
12:46:40 And did great work, so that'll really improve the irrigation patterns out there, and probably the water use efficiency a little bit as well.
12:46:50 So yeah, that was great to get that work done in the sewer.
12:46:58 Working on that. almost full time with my 2 I can't really call him retired engineers .
12:47:05 They're not retired, they're they're once retired, but now they're working Dave Peterson and Bob Wheeler.
12:47:10 Pretty steady on the sewer. We We expect to be constructing the first portion of that.
12:47:20 By early to mid next year so we're we're nearly done with the design work on the sewer treatment plant, and we're still in the permitting process. Now, and hope to be letting
some some
12:47:36 of those contracts in a not too distant future so That's that's the public works update thanks Mondi, who has J.
12:47:52 James, Sarah, Sorry your hands up!
12:47:56 Oh, you're muted great thank you just a couple of things, I I I hear, and i've been hearing the challenge about hiring folks right now, and how kind of depleting that can be
for the folks who work in
12:48:15 your offices as well as the supervisors and just to encourage you to continue just speaking to your folks about that, because one thing about emotions we know is that if we're
able to express how we feel then we can actually
12:48:33 feel welcomed. the way we are, and then it actually helps us to focus on our work.
12:48:40 And and it is hard to hire people because we do tend to pay less.
12:48:47 Then, jurisdictions around us. And I think that something that is in our favor, and that we really need to talk up is our culture here and to imagine what our culture is. and
the values that we that are important to
12:49:02 Jefferson County, as an employer and the work that we do and the community support.
12:49:12 One important reason, if not, the top reason that employees stay with the company is for the values that the company holds, as well as the respect that employees feel when they
work for a company.
12:49:27 And so the money can go down to the fourth or fifth or sixth level of what is most important to people.
12:49:38 And so when just even among people outside or employees, I encourage you all to talk up the values of what it is to work for Jefferson County, and what values we uphold, and
if you want to talk about with me that with me
12:49:58 i'm happy to do that. that is really important to me as a employee of Jefferson County, and is someone who supports you all in the work that you do as well as supporting our
employees and just one more
12:50:14 thing is, you all know I sometimes partner with Mr. Rogers, on a comment or quote for the day and today, just to keep in mind something that he he said.
12:50:32 And I I think that imagining this is contributing to a workplace, and how we interact with our staff as well as our customers.
12:50:43 He said, that sometimes all it takes is one kind word to nourish another person.
12:50:50 Think of the ripple effect that can be created one kind empathetic word has a wonderful way of turning into many.
12:51:01 So I'm here for you all you have any questions or want to talk values.
12:51:04 Thank you, Sarah. We appreciate you big time. Stacy.
12:51:11 Your hand went up. yeah, administrative professionals week is this week, and Wednesday is the day.
12:51:20 So. please don't make the mistake I made my first year here, where I thought that only meant receptionist in secretaries.
12:51:29 It does also mean everybody who is keeping the the county going, whether they are your financial people or your office office managers.
12:51:40 It's really a broad range of people and and piggybacking on Sarah's comments, you know.
12:51:48 We all can use any just appreciation wherever you can get it.
12:51:54 So I wanted to make sure no one forgot
12:52:00 Thanks for the reminder. Stacy. I see somebody on the attendee list with their hands up.
12:52:06 We I think it's who was it we're not taking public comment in this.
12:52:15 Okay, yeah, we should close out with a report from our distinguished prosecuting attorney, Mr.
12:52:22 Kennedy. Hi sorry for signing on late today, so got a couple of projects we're working on right now, one that's not going to be popular with anybody as we are working to tackle
traffic
12:52:38 infractions. This is a subject matter which has been neglected by the office, for probably well over decade, maybe longer.
12:52:49 And so we're trying to get on top of that and get that process fixed.
12:52:55 We are also making our fire prone property out in chimicom.
12:53:03 A a priority which we are working with. DCD.
12:53:07 And environmental public health on. Thank you Guys for your cooperation on that.
12:53:12 I think it's very important that we finally do something about that.
12:53:20 Other things on the radar are you know i'm still working with kids up county.
12:53:27 They provide our autopsy services and i'm working on strengthening that relationship with them, because a lot of the other rural counties are getting completely frozen out of
the ability to even conduct any forensic examinations after
12:53:43 death. they don't I simply have anyone to do it particularly in Eastern Washington, So that's a relationship that i'm very grateful for want to keep it going and we might be
working with them even more closely
12:53:57 as regionalization sets in, or whatever route this county chooses to take in the coming years.
12:54:04 When the coroner's office basically gets phased out other than that, things are pretty normal right now, still working on a bunch of cases.
12:54:17 And yeah, otherwise everything's going pretty good awesome Ruth, I see your hand up.
12:54:24 I wanted to ask James, what do you mean regionalization sets in?
12:54:31 Oh, so there's a variety of different models that are being looked at with sort of the future of forensic services.
12:54:42 And or forensic i'll talk to you services and one is regionalization, where basically one county will sort of be the hub and smaller counties will be the spokes, and we'll send
their
12:54:57 We'll send individuals to to those counties for for examination.
12:55:03 Other can I mean that's that's one model right so for us it's Kits app and kids.
12:55:09 That may also be providing services to Mason and Cloudland or other counties. I know column right now currently uses Thurston, which is but further, and I think Kits app is
kind of maxed out right now.
12:55:19 So I wanna make sure I maintain that good relationship with them because if they just said, Hey, we're not doing business with you anymore. we would be in a in a real tough
spot a lot of counties.
12:55:30 We're using King County for that same service and late last year King County said we're not taking anyone anymore.
12:55:39 So well that's not quite that I think what they said is they'll take up to something like 4 out of county ones total a week or a month.
12:55:52 But that's not very much considering all the counties that we're feeding into that. So that's one possible model.
12:56:00 You another possible model would be, you know. everyone just go out and hire their medical examiner.
12:56:04 But of course that would be really expensive and right well it's not practical.
12:56:08 And you're right there aren't any so yeah Nobody Nobody is graduating from medical school with those credentials anymore.
12:56:16 So they're having a hard time replacing when they retire right.
12:56:20 That's exactly right. And so I think that yeah so and and we in the State of Washington, lost our State anthropologist, Kathy Taylor.
12:56:36 I think it was last year, and I sit on the forensic Investigators Council, and we're trying to find someone to place her.
12:56:48 But there's only like I think a 135 people in the United States of America with those credentials.
12:56:55 And so it's it's quite a challenge but she was someone who was incredibly valuable.
12:57:01 A very, you know, rare set of expertise. She would be the person where you find bones out in the woods.
12:57:06 You send her a picture with your phone and she'd be like human or not human, you know she would let you know.
12:57:12 So being able to find someone to fill those shoes is, you know, extremely difficult.
12:57:17 Thanks, and I see your hand up. I was curious, cause this has been a lot of discussion about not only crime, but suicides increase increase in during the pandemic.
12:57:36 Have you witnessed any of that. you know I I don't think that there has necessarily been an increase in suicide.
12:57:50 Not that that that i've readily seen although I could certainly dive into the data and log.
12:57:58 But the thing is is that we're kind of prone to that demographically.
12:58:04 Anyway. I think we've always been kind of high because we have a lot of elderly people who live by themselves, and and our typical suicide is usually someone who fits into that
category.
12:58:18 Or you get people who elderly live by themselves. and decides time and drink themselves to death. Right?
12:58:24 That's not necessarily going to be counted as a suicide, but it would be a de facto suicide.
12:58:31 You have you know other people who are younger. that we'll see who have a drug addiction, who kill themselves, and it's going to be counted as a suicide.
12:58:43 But you know drugs definitely played a role and so there's when you get down to the nitty gritty of it. they're you know, they're often you know multi-factors to playing into
it and how
12:58:58 you count it is you know there's a little bit of discretion.
12:59:03 There. But you know, at the end of the day you know you might find other people who have addictions, and they decide to kill themselves by intentionally overdosing right that
will not be counted as a suicide typically
12:59:19 It'll just be counted as an accidental death but we are trying to get more specific, and and how we track these numbers now.
12:59:31 To to get a better idea. So when we have someone who commits suicide that we basically are counting as a suicide.
12:59:40 Now we're trying to make a note of it when we find drugs or drug paraphernalia present at the scene.
12:59:44 So, even if that wasn't the immediate cause that might be you know a separate attendant cause
12:59:51 Okay, I don't wanna leave it Leave on this gloomy note. So that's my job.
12:59:57 Come on, I know, but I just wanna encourage everybody i've i've been going out on walks every so often.
13:00:06 Just taking a walk, and I really encourage people when you see the sun out, and you've got 20Â min.
13:00:12 Just get out and take a walk and just get some fresh air and get get some movement going, because we all sit, and our computers too much.
13:00:23 Sit in our chairs too much, and I think it will help our mental health and our community.
13:00:27 If we're all out getting the pressure and getting some activity as much as possible.
13:00:33 So whenever you can prioritize yourself, or if you need if you need a a friend to support you, call me, and i'll support you in getting out taking a walk, because it's really
really important.
13:00:46 And we all have to take care of ourselves and each other.
13:00:51 Because it is trying. I mean it will. The demo today was people having a hard time filling out their teams, and I know that means that people are taking on 10 or 20% more work.
13:01:02 And you know it's, we're all here because we believe in service to our community, and don't forget that you're part of your own community, and you need to take care of yourself.
13:01:15 So I just wanna leave on a positive note the sends out.
13:01:19 I appreciate you all, and I look I really enjoy when I get to collaborate with the each of you, and hope we get to do a lot of good collaborative projects in the coming year.
13:01:29 And I see Ruth has your hand up. I have a public service announcement to close out, and is not negative.
13:01:35 I am currently digging up my many many dahlias and dividing them, and I could start a farm.
13:01:43 But I don't want to I want to share my daily tubers with you.
13:01:45 If you or anybody, you know what needs them. I got a nice variety, and I plenty of them so definitely awesome. Yeah.
13:01:56 Before we leave. I want to ask Jeff. How do we do today, Jeff, with the roundtable?
13:01:58 You like that here. Yes, I did. I actually learned a great deal from everyone, and I appreciate that.
13:02:06 And it's nice to know that we're all kind of in the same boat on employment issues, and and and when you hire employees they're new. right? So they still need a certain amount
of time to get used to
13:02:16 working here, and I find that's about 20 years and really. you. You we have to think about keeping the employees once we get them, so that they other people don't other counties.
13:02:27 Don't steal them anyway. you have any black values
13:02:34 I'm just I don't have black but my daughter does I can get you on.
13:02:39 Thank you, and I'm. still working on that apple Orchard Joe still working on Plan B for the orchard.
13:02:49 So. , hey? Thanks, everyone, Or do you go longer than that?
13:02:55 This is my first sharing this in July, everyone oh, for recess, since all 1 30, when the Commissioners will reconvene. Right?
13:03:13 Thank you.
13:31:34 Okay, , Okay, up to zoom you were just in it , Okay, So it's 1 31, and i'm gonna call us back to order for afternoon session.
13:31:51 We are immediately going to go into executive session with our Oh, I need the description.
13:32:02 I know It's a long wait I have it right here, you're going into executive session with county administrator, chief, civil deputy, prosecuting attorney public records, administrator,
deputy, director, of
13:32:13 public health and 2 web maintenance, digital communication specialists regarding potential litigation.
13:32:21 Exemption is outlined in the Open Public Meetings Act, Rcw.
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14:03:33 I'm just gonna extend this to 2
14:03:49 So I don't have it because we need to leave the apple for the
14:03:57 Can we just use our speaker captured us not to miss.
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14:04:17 Okay, And
14:04:27 It looks like we're on av capture and back on zoom.
14:04:32 I am out of executive session, having those readers, Jason, Civil Deputy, Prosecuting Attorney, public records, Administrator that may direct public health.
14:04:43 My fellow commissioners, and we are going to extend until 2 30.
14:04:51 So we are coming out at 2, o 3 let's do a 4 out, 2, o 3, and we're extending until 2, 30,
14:32:05 So I'm coming out of executive session
14:32:16 Coming out of executive session. The county administrator, chief, civil deputy, prosecuting attorney, public records, administrator, deputy, director of Public health, regarding
potential litigation exemption is outlined in
14:32:29 the open public meeting. Jack, Rcw. 42, 32, 32 32, 32, 35
14:46:54 Testing 1, 2 testing. So i'm gonna we're coming out of executive session with our County administrator, Chief Civil deputy, prosecuting attorney, public records, administrator,
and deputy,
14:47:10 Director of Public Health. We will not be taking any action, and we will not be extending, recording, and progress
14:47:24 Thank you, everyone. So we are moving on to discussion and potential action regarding a letter of support for Jefferson County, Pud.
14:47:37 Who is applying for State Funding to expand gigabit fiber connections to businesses and port towns, and extending to fort from Fort Warden to Glen Cove. That's exciting It's
14:47:51 huge. Do we have a letter
14:47:59 I'm glad that you picked this up I totally missed when I sent this last week, so I looked at it over the weekend.
14:48:08 This is a low interest. loan and that you know commercial symmetrical gigabit creates so much opportunity for our businesses.
14:48:18 It's it's huge yeah seems like a no brainer i'm happy to support this and so I could make a motion that we approve, and sign a letter supporting the puds application for low
interest funding
14:48:36 businesses. i'll second Oh, third all in favor bye, bye, I think they needed this today we're gonna get it to to will O'donnell thank you
14:49:00 , yeah,
14:49:05 Okay, , , yeah, it is ,
14:49:23 Great. we do have that other support letter request that was my West End note that I forgot about.
14:49:32 I think i'm just that one too, who is that something we can get out of the way now.
14:49:39 Yes, I could find it sure i'll let it actually get in that zoom.
14:49:48 I'm not there. Oh, great we'll get there you might not upgrade
14:50:06 , Okay, we're just
14:50:07 Okay, we're just looking for a letter if you're out there in Zoom World wondering what we're doing that we are going to consider
14:50:27 That one i'll sign now is the beauty letter i'll sign
14:50:44 Letter is here and signed: Okay, Any left finding the other letter case?
14:50:54 Yeah. Nope: So This is a request from
14:51:13 Yeah. So the new owners of the allen mill on the West End it's Spencer forest products are submitting a grant to the usda.
14:51:26 Can be program name between 2 is the partnerships for climate smart commodities.
14:51:35 They're large grants. and it did a little bit of vetting on this just because we know very little about the project.
14:51:43 But I did speak with Rod, Flex in forks and asked if if there's anything we should be aware of that, the project is at all controversial, and he said there's you know they they
don't have a
14:51:54 lot of kind of detail. He has not heard a lot of detail.
14:52:01 But you know certainly want to be supportive of the effort to get mill back up and running.
14:52:10 And this talks about potential for 150 employees.
14:52:12 So concerned, because the letter has almost no detail and it you know I don't think we wanna send it as is.
14:52:21 It's very nonspecific about program and you know I don't want to just likely hand over a letter from anything they're doing. But and it is make Biocharge I saw that word I know
14:52:41 whether. yeah, I still don't understand exactly yeah so I think it is a little vague still.
14:52:42 But yes, I mean given that I think it's pretty highly unlikely that they'll get funded.
14:52:45 But I don't wanna you know you know then losing potential funding.
14:52:52 It's do pretty darn soon I did look at the Grant program, she called the woman called, who was helping them coordinate.
14:53:01 This Grant the middle and I was in the middle of something, and I We started talking about it in case that she wanted to check with Rod Fleck.
14:53:10 So, she continued, all that following up with them but this was the very general letter that they forwarded us, or most of it, and I don't know if we could get them to be more
specific.
14:53:23 Well, I think even if we just made it more specific in saying, you know that this is for usda funding for this particular program.
14:53:33 , yeah, so that it wouldn't be yeah so it could be used for other purposes of better knowledge.
14:53:41 Otherwise i'm comfortable. with that It's Funny, because the email actually has more, you know information like start hiring of 150 plus employees.
14:53:53 It is a a nonprofit of the nonprofit accelerator, Llc.
14:53:59 That we heard from originally. it's like they've hired a consultant to help with that the grant writing although such a poorly written letter of support and worries me a little
bit too.
14:54:18 So I think we if we wanted. to add some of that language about the what Grant program they're applying for and maybe some language that we're let's just talk about it lately.
14:54:39 So. if we were to send this letter, would we we all want to sign it.
14:54:45 Sure since we're talking about it and it's Great's district
14:54:57 And just love to know where they are you know I don't know the folks about the allen right.
14:55:07 Yeah, it's
14:55:22 There's an article about it in the Peninsula Daily News about
14:55:31 I'm sorry. can you tell me the timeline one more time.
14:55:33 Is this something we could finish this week and get out next week.
14:55:37 Let me see if I still the page up, and I did.
14:55:39 I looked up for this Grant and I asked her that question on the phone.
14:55:44 She seemed thrilled that we would be considering it as soon as did today.
14:55:49 Here it goes. partnerships, requirement, smart commodities.
14:55:55 Friday, May 6. Okay, So could do next week.
14:56:01 Next Monday. Yeah. take some more time to learn more about it.
14:56:07 I mean, Yeah, we found out about it on Friday, so I I felt glad to get rod. i'm one round of vetting
14:56:18 Yes, we have put it off a week, Okay, so.
14:56:23 And you know I want more bioterror out there right?
14:56:27 Great. Greg, do you wanna follow up with them, or Kate?
14:56:30 Do you wanna follow up with them, or who wants to carry the football?
14:56:34 So a better letter either way. yeah you're You've already been talking with him.
14:56:49 Just I only talked to Rod and Then there was a funny communication leaving message for me on heidi's phone , Unclear.
14:56:58 Yeah. Why, I would. I could take it the next leg if you want.
14:57:03 Okay, , have some more contacts out there, too, like talking about the the Senate Bill, 59, 61. and things that you know.
14:57:11 We're supposed to look for this kind of opportunity
14:57:28 Over 2 emails, some information for you to follow up on. Great.
14:57:31 Thank you.
14:57:39 Okay, So the next thing on our agenda is to continue our workshop on county infrastructure and capital needs. i'm sorry regarding the letter.
14:57:52 Greg will be working on it. Are you gonna be at the end of the meeting, or next But we're listed as an agenda item mixer if we wanna yep Okay, 150 jobs in the West End sounds
good to
14:58:11 me. yeah, a lot of under employed people out there.
14:58:22 So Mark, are you gonna share screen for that? , I need to be promoted again
14:58:45 Give me a second here
14:58:47 Give me a second hand
14:58:56 Okay, Looks like I need to shrink that thing just a little
14:59:10 Okay, Commissioner, this is, and I wasn't here I I left for the interview.
14:59:17 For the planning manager, and so Howidi did a download with with me on this and
14:59:25 She suggested that we added 2 columns existing funding i'm sorry funding secured in the funding gap which essentially would take the estimated cost subtract out to secured funding
which would then tell us
14:59:37 what the gap is. And so and I did that because anecdotally, I knew from talking with public works that some of these projects were completely funded.
14:59:48 And then there were these compelling notes and a right hand column that said, 274,000 needed, So that made me think. Wow!
14:59:58 That's 3.8 million dollars project with 274,000 needed.
15:00:03 That's a compelling lift for us in terms of capital needs.
15:00:10 And then i'm kind of Curious I was researching something else last week and someone said, Well, it's in Kitzap County's capital facilities plan.
15:00:22 Do we have that, you know, of a capital is is that , required to Nope.
15:00:27 It's part of the comprehensive
15:00:33 Couldn't necessarily. see how all of these things applied to that So yeah, what's in the capital facilities plan is not an executable plan?
15:00:42 It doesn't have a list of specific projects like like this list does and and quite honestly that this was a take off your skull. cap big big, you know what no matter how crazy
it might sound what are the needs
15:00:59 of we have, and so I think this is a pretty good list.
15:01:06 Remember, my calendar is just me.
15:01:11 But then part of the reason we did this was to prepare for Icg.
15:01:15 And so we need to figure out how we're gonna present this on the nineteenth, and I shared a a preliminary version of this with John Morrow a month ago.
15:01:26 I think 3 weeks, and I think Kate your your notion was that we don't want to march down the infrastructure for funding road separately and without having coordinated our our
project lists and so where there can be
15:01:47 collaboration and teamwork, and the best example of that I can think of is the ev charging stations we're Jefferson Transit might have a couple.
15:01:57 We might have a couple city hall, Tv libraries, and and wherever else. and you know, maybe we submit a community.
15:02:09 Request for Dv. charging station funding but many of these are county specific.
15:02:17 They're located outside city limits and there's really no nexus to the other governments, although I would like to at least consider applying for ev charging stations for our
own facilities too, with the Federal
15:02:35 funding available as well. Consolidated Community. Ask I just.
15:02:42 I think that different. but you know we do serve the public.
15:02:48 I think public facilities are a really good place for treasures to be like community centers, you know, benefit both public and employees, and you know amenity for employees
and not that we need to pay for that that.
15:03:03 Can be I mean apparently gifting is a pretty Oftentimes electric treasures don't meet the threshold for gifting, because it's relatively cheap for the way they are used but
15:03:17 it is something I would like us to keep on the list, anyway.
15:03:23 So do we still have the more comprehensive list from last week that had This is just public works.
15:03:28 Is that right? Yeah, I can't show the whole thing still on there great.
15:03:39 So my question for the Icg meeting is, how can we share a collapse and aspirational collaborative list?
15:03:51 Do we Do we look at this and say these 5 projects would be priorities for collaboration, or how do we best?
15:03:59 Utilize and take advantage of the Icg Forum around Capital.
15:04:09 Yeah, I mean, I think it would be great if we could agree on a format.
15:04:15 For coming up with projects that each jurisdiction uses the same format, so that we're kind of comparing apples to apples.
15:04:25 Whether that's a spreadsheet like this or modified and then maybe kind of categorized into maybe synced up with the categories of Federal funding available, or i'm just like
how to
15:04:41 crosswalk them. I think is the question and so maybe having a a shared form. in in specific categories would be would be useful.
15:04:55 And see where there's overlap and what would it be a goal for us to get that form done.
15:04:59 In short order and get it out to people, so that they bring completed forms to the Icg.
15:05:05 And then we shuffle them together. sure well, i'd be happy to at this format satisfactory.
15:05:19 I could share it with with There and John and and Kevin.
15:05:23 We still have too many projects. We still have too many projects on this to take to the meeting.
15:05:27 I assume right. I mean, like a lot of these are funded.
15:05:29 But do we want to talk about covert replacement at the Icg.
15:05:32 Meeting more more than saying We have a lot of funded over replacements.
15:05:36 I mean that's not really we don't have an ask we don't have a need.
15:05:40 They're gonna happen. it's good to just like Maybe these are the projects we have in the pipeline that people can look at.
15:05:45 But we don't need to talk. about the you know a co-work replacement for too long that we don't need any partnership on right great question.
15:05:55 Well, well, I do think, having an idea of each other's priorities and timing like.
15:06:01 So we're hoping Jefferson healthcare shows up. So, knowing that they're looking at you, know , well a a building replacement which very well could be going to the voters for
a large amount of money you'd be getting that kind
15:06:14 of mapped out of sequence in the process, I think, would be helpful schools.
15:06:21 Same thing. Make some sense of where they're if there are big asks
15:06:30 So there's tax asks we had bonds and and levies.
15:06:34 That's one thing that that does make a lot of sense So maybe that's a good one of the areas where, like what are we maybe gonna take in front of the public I think that makes
a lot of sense to communicate
15:06:43 with our partners, and then, like you know we could use the categories and ija, which there's what?
15:06:54 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 1011, 12 maybe 15 programs.
15:07:03 I could try to identify. Are they going after particular funding sources in Ija?
15:07:20 So it would require some homework on their part but that's good we'll hold ourselves to the same
15:07:32 Have we seen a sample of of the form that we liked for this kind of activity?
15:07:43 No, I don't think we've done anything that organize I mean, I suppose it's a little bit similar to the cares funding , process.
15:07:51 We went through
15:08:01 Oh, so many different. We get 2 fine grains here, like the you know.
15:08:10 So under each of the categories, and ija different grant programs that are that's probably getting too specific.
15:08:20 Let me go back to the the sort ofable spreadsheet, you know, something I want to do before Thursday, when you sda is here to, you know.
15:08:30 See what Usda programs are in Ija and so we can pinpoint a little more specifically seeking funding.
15:08:45 For I mean our are we competing with? Maybe the city is the only one that might be going for these funds right?
15:08:57 Which one , section transferation, maybe. Yeah.
15:09:12 I just have not spent enough time with it to see which programs are getting beat up in it.
15:09:17 But I would guess that, you know
15:09:22 Evans vista. I could see the city might be i'm fine for some of these, and you know keep in mind.
15:09:32 It is a 40 year program, so doesn't have to be something that's like shovel ready today,
15:09:44 Public transportation. if there's a whole ports and waterways, section
15:09:58 But it makes sense. So what might you go through? I I I j a 4.
15:10:04 What might you go to the voters for Hmm so I'm.
15:10:09 I'd be happy to work with Mark on creating that form and open to input on what we wanna include for the sake of crosswalking.
15:10:22 Yeah, if you get 5 down, let me on. and happy to help.
15:10:27 Yeah, send the draft through Mark and I mean, I wonder if it if we could create a form that feeds into a Google Google form that feeds into a Google sheet or something.
15:10:42 Or whatever format, but so that we could get a have a list ready for Icg.
15:10:49 Meeting,
15:10:54 Yeah, at least can't be and paste we all have working from the same. Yeah, at least, if we're collecting the same categories of information from folks and i'm gonna mention
this last week, But there's
15:11:06 there's a lot of frustration in dc that It's really only the transportation projects that have been had the Nophos published funding opportunities and had done real writing
for new programs and so there's still a lot
15:11:19 of uncertainty about who's eligible for what that's mostly in the new programs.
15:11:28 So things like electrification of transit you know there they haven't been necessarily Federal programs before, so they're still doing the rule, writing , So there's there's
some uncertainty.
15:11:41 But Oh, you know, a lot of it is the same programs.
15:11:47 I think they say about half the 3 quarters of the funding is going through programs that already exist.
15:11:52 It depends like transportation is largely existing programs they're just getting more money for them.
15:11:59 So in reviewing those, though we may also consequently find some
15:12:07 Some of these larger funding gap items, you might find funding opportunities for infrastructure or solid waste or i'm.
15:12:18 Looking at the bit the big balances yup so I can't , structure for recycling reduce reuse, recycle education outreach goals.
15:12:36 Jeff: comm communications, expansion potentially. Okay.
15:12:47 Homeless, housing,
15:12:54 Public works, facility,
15:13:00 Yeah, and it but so it's interesting like the solid waste infrastructure for recycling Grant.
15:13:05 Only it can only go to States States or try it, or Territories.
15:13:11 But yeah. So that's an example where that would be distributed through ecology.
15:13:22 So whether they're going to regret like get a big grant and right Yeah.
15:13:30 And it's as cooperative agreements and or grants so like that's one where it's not clear time of this rating it wasn't clear if it was going to go based on formula
15:13:40 funds to states. or be competitive that's the kind of thing that's frustrating when it's not hemured out yet.
15:13:47 But then the reduce re user cycling, education and outreach grants do go directly to local governments.
15:13:55 Well could go to States or local government
15:14:02 Great. would you try talking? I want to see if the owl does its top.
15:14:07 Sure I always have something to say. Oh, it's not turning to you it's weird.
15:14:22 You in a moment
15:14:23 Yeah, Okay, Kate, Kate: Yeah, I think kate is a Tv.
15:14:28 I'm honored. Okay, so so do we have we have a little bit of a plan for Icg.
15:14:35 Prep. with the form and getting stuff into the form. Yeah. and Markley, run that idea by the administrators tomorrow.
15:14:44 Yeah, I need a little more clarity on which you mean by form.
15:14:49 So I think we Wanna trying to have some consistency in how we're organizing the information to present at the Icg meeting, and so certainly open to input from the administrators,
too, on what would be useful information to gather and
15:15:06 in what format but the end result of trying to have us each working from the same documents, you know, separately.
15:15:16 But then they could be merged to collect that information.
15:15:20 You know some of the same you know, funding. So what funding sources will be going after?
15:15:28 When would there be potentially an ask to the public?
15:15:35 Is there a need for partnership? Okay, how about we get our hitch together the next day or 2?
15:15:43 Yeah, we gotta move on this pretty swiftly I'm, i'm glad we got an early start.
15:15:47 Yeah, I mean a lot of the categories are in from up information are the ones that you've collected on this matrix, right?
15:15:56 And so it might be just more like adding a project description.
15:16:12 Okay.
15:16:13 Okay, So i'll look for time. kate yeah Okay, This is one where I wish we could be in a meeting together.
15:16:22 , I love doing this kind of stuff. Okay, So is there anything specifically that we want to look at on the spreadsheet mark just took down?
15:16:36 I really appreciate you as those cons, and filling them in, and having the conversations with staff and
15:16:49 Are there any questions from either of you Kate or Greg about this list that we worked on last week together?
15:17:02 I don't think so. I mean it seems like the first first draft is something that will get a lot of work, you know, especially with the News Central Services director. I mean,
this is like this is kind of a big part of their work plan
15:17:13 right it is. There is also a new bipartisan infrastructure, law, rural playbook, which is helpful because it calls out specifically programs your mark for rural communities.
15:17:33 That'll be handy so we can connect program a lot of stuff.
15:17:40 We are digital equity grants. Hmm. I mean, do you need some of this to walk around with on Thursday?
15:17:51 I do need to so brush up my knowledge and you know what's getting updated and luckily our lobbyists send stuff like this.
15:18:02 This rural playbook just got published, and she sent it to us.
15:18:07 So. yeah, I will do my homework in the in Usda in particular. So at some point because we do have some capital funding right now we should crosswalk the funding available with
this list.
15:18:31 And talk about. we already prioritized for example, the community center upgrades and Brendan import towns in those are long overdue needs.
15:18:41 And it's important to take care of and take care of what you've got first.
15:18:45 But I think I forget what you said the capital funding available that we have was right now, Mark. but it seemed that reviewing again this list against the funding available
on seeing if there was anything else that we wanted to
15:19:04 prioritize funding out of our own capital fund would be a meaningful exercise, and then also to look at the
15:19:16 No Arpa list, because we realized we have less money than we thought.
15:19:22 Once once Mark tuned up that list. And yeah, there it is.
15:19:31 Okay,
15:19:40 So with both tranches of arpa we're already down to 262
15:19:49 And and then the revenue sharing money is kind of up in the air right now.
15:19:53 So the only specific thing we've allocated that for is the Mason Street Project and headlock But I feel i'm i'm hesitant to be allocating that funding until we know it's how
15:20:05 much how much it is, and when we can expect to get it and that's you to be a point of discussion back in Dc.
15:20:11 Right now. not a burden of hand and then there's the capital funds, and the as reflected on the previous spreadsheet. The Brennan and port towns and community centers are here
15:20:34 I think it's a bit of a policy question here?
15:20:36 Too, of How do we want to? Basically, How much of our capital funds are we comfortable expending?
15:20:50 How much do we want to hold over his reserve and you know that's somewhat related to
15:21:00 If we plan on there being excess revenues this year with sales tax still being really high.
15:21:07 But, you know, would that be? Would we be potentially moving some reserve excess revenues from general fund to capital also?
15:21:15 Yeah, I think I think that'll be unlikely because of the commitments we made to the workforce , and the new positions.
15:21:22 The board added right so revenues are looking robust.
15:21:26 But we'll have to wait until your end to see how how we look.
15:21:31 Okay, Will you remind me of our reserve?
15:21:40 We need 15%. 15? Yes, yeah used to be 10 plus a revenue stableization. reserve, which was a calculated amount.
15:21:53 And I think I can't recall when 2,019, we eliminated the revenue stabilization reserve, and then up the 10% to 15, and then anything in excess of that needs to go
15:22:08 roll into capital or to a fun dedicated to cushioning
15:22:18 That negative economic impacts and i've been talking to to staff about commingling general funding capital, and and I think we've come to the conclusion that it it might be
good to bifurcated those 2 sources of
15:22:31 funding for clarity's sake but no we haven't matured our thinking on that, and that would be a decision for the board right?
15:22:44 So would that mean reintroducing a revenue stabilization fund?
15:22:47 No, no, no, that was a calculated number. that was part of the general phone.
15:22:51 This would be we'd have to come up with a novel title for the fund.
15:22:58 But that would be part of the discussion that we'd we'd have with the Board if we seriously contemplated doing that.
15:23:06 So then we, because we still want to be designating a certain amount for capital, we have re for capital.
15:23:13 Are you saying? totally disconnect general fund from capital Funds in in the Capital Improvement Fund that originated in the general Fund, and then pull those out and put in
in a separate Fund, the Name of which we'd have to
15:23:31 decide just the thought at this point. what what's the purpose of that flexibility.
15:23:41 Well just clarity. so we you know don't don't inadvertently spend this money on that or general fund money on something else.
15:23:54 General fund. money has been put into the capital fund, I think.
15:24:02 10 years ago for 4 years in a row substantial general fund amounts were put in into capital.
15:24:07 But we could continue the way we are, but it would just be more elegant and and simpler to have those 2 funding sources separate.
15:24:19 And do we have a a policy regarding the
15:24:24 What we maintain in the capital fund funds. You mean a fun balance.
15:24:32 I would have to look up the resolution because we have a recommended fund balance for each of our 50 plus funds, and I can't remember I think it might be 10% or
15:24:44 I could look it up here real quick, just thinking how much we wanna be thinking about burning through some of the the I don't wanna say excess funds, but they you know pretty
sizable.
15:24:58 Amount we have in in capital. It felt to me like there was a couple of projects where significant Grant funds had been raised in public works, was saying, We need 274,000 more,
and we need 300,000 more those
15:25:11 felt like we should. Just those are low hanging fruit, I think, for funding, because they leverage millions of dollars in grant funding and freeze up some Arpa for other projects.
15:25:21 Then right? And those are capital. Yeah, the the 2 you mentioned our projects eligible. Yeah.
15:25:29 Right there. There are capital eligible projects Yeah, and they're not on the Arpalist currently or in this capital West. No, they're not on that.
15:25:40 So that pages capitalist
15:25:47 Remind me that was a trail and a road center road I think needed 300,000 earlier Is that a commitment we want to make Now I mean, those are that's pretty low hanging fruit?
15:26:05 So the capital fund Oh, interesting. The recommended reserve for the Capital Improvement Fund is 50% of the annual debt service expense which currently so 50% of 0.
15:26:25 So that's not a good reserve, requirement or we're in a really good position.
15:26:34 I mean, yeah, the center road and the ott, I mean, do we Wanna make that?
15:26:40 We can use both capital funds for both of those that 574,000 those were the ones that were marked in red.
15:26:48 On the other capital worksheet mark so we talked to Eric and Monty about last week. my switch screens.
15:27:02 It doesn't yeah, right Yes, yeah. the 2 74 and the 300?
15:27:08 Yeah, those feel like they should just go on the list somewhere. right? And then I asked, Moni is that a 22 or 23?
15:27:15 And he said, neither. maybe 24. But then he came back and said, the 300 for the Center Road capital preservation project.
15:27:26 23, and so
15:27:37 So that would be an addition here
15:27:51 My mouse, when I use my mouth
15:28:25 There,
15:28:35 The same thing that seemed pretty acute on the Public Works List
15:28:39 The same thing that seemed pretty acute on the public works list was the roads office for where you know second 30 grand and renting a building per year.
15:28:51 Right now,
15:28:52 It's medium, even according to them. but it just
15:28:57 There you go the big, big crew out there. Hmm!
15:29:09 And now it's with that amount 5 I think
15:29:22 So then we're not putting the 2 74 for the Ott, and there
15:29:32 I guess, even according to their list, that's a 3 to 5 year project.
15:29:43 It seems, even though we don't have a it's it's hard to get your arm around all the county projects, you know.
15:29:49 I mean they they just have so much overlap between the Law and Justice Center versus Rehab.
15:29:53 On this building, and it's just it's such a big I don't know Is that something that we should maybe hire a consultant for rather than I mean I guess it depends on what we can
find yeah some counties have hired
15:30:07 consulting firms to help with putting together a capital facilities. plan. I actually got a copy of Benton counties, and they spent like 300,000 on it, having prepared for them.
15:30:18 And and it's it's a very pretty project product.
15:30:24 Yeah, I mean, functional is more important than pretty to me.
15:30:27 Right just maybe I don't know the next quarterly I don't know.
15:30:35 I don't know what the process is for to get this all sued out and prioritized, and I a you know, a ranked list of where we're gonna focus our energies.
15:30:50 First and second and third, right and we've we've sort of done it here, Sarah, and dipitously.
15:30:54 You know I've been here 5 years coming june and the 2 commute centers again at the top of the list right then.
15:31:01 We've done nothing and yeah, glad, they're not we're gonna do something, and what that does, and thank goodness that the debt has been retired, because now we have some flexibility.
15:31:13 But once we get beyond those 2, then we can seriously consider a bond to do something significant.
15:31:27 Either. A public works facility kind of like they have in Mason County.
15:31:30 Which would if public works could move to a central facility and hadlock.
15:31:36 Then DCD. could move across the parking lot.
15:31:39 Public health could then expand solve their problem long term But then, of course, we have this building that's held together by gravity, and either need to retrofit it so that
it's a safe facility and we did just
15:31:55 get invited again to apply for the historic courthouse program.
15:31:59 I know those are smaller. Yeah, Yeah, the issue with that is they typically require a dollar for dollar match.
15:32:09 And if you recall when we got the last grant and the boiler, the the courthouse boiler was our match, and so if if we were to apply for another grant, then we need another entry
in the capital
15:32:20 funds list for the match. Yeah.
15:32:30 , the capital funds right now, though like I I think it's worth thinking about.
15:32:37 If we have a another bite to take in in this building.
15:32:44 Oh, do you another bite? Yeah, to take it upgrading this building?
15:32:54 , well took to seek funding, for because we had, we do have the match right now.
15:33:00 Yeah. And and my plan is to work with Matt to get a another grant.
15:33:05 Application in and Chris more is great to work with.
15:33:12 Yeah, but they do come in pretty, you know, especially right now.
15:33:18 Reit is source of capital. funds so I don't think it's like we're gonna deplete this, and it won't be re you know it it's been robust for a little while and
15:33:35 with price, inflation plus rising interest rates on mortgages.
15:33:39 It's possible that some of our people coming from California or elsewhere that have d pockets, and some of them might be priced out of the market and we might see a tapering
off and re re revenue I I
15:33:55 don't know it's potential doesn't sound like it from Brands Report this morning people doorbelling and the Federal reserve branches is predicting you know one third chance of
a
15:34:18 recession in the next 12 months. then cost of energy.
15:34:23 I. I read this morning that coal demand is surging like never before and then all the call produced in companies or countries are trying to ramp up production because of Russian
oil not being available, which is going to blow a hole
15:34:38 in the climate. , So yeah, there's some trends that are not really looking very good at the moment.
15:34:48 I'm going back to the list. I just want to ask looking at the community centers.
15:34:53 Is there anything at the triary community center that needs to work?
15:34:57 Try area community center it's, in much better shape I know that we when I got here Tom Walker was, I think, that refurbished the floor, and they also completely redid the commercial
kitchen and so
15:35:15 I think that the triary is good for a good while, and then Gardner is really quite a nice facility.
15:35:22 And that group does a really good job maintaining it.
15:35:28 And question is in good shape, too, except for that back building.
15:35:31 Quill scenes in pretty good shape, too. right and I'm: So glad that we the sorted out the food pink question, Yeah, Yeah.
15:35:38 Or they sorted it out right, though that back building you know once it's has a potential utility is something else. but it's not good for much.
15:35:47 But storage right now, right
15:35:58 Something that like when the feds raise the interest rate.
15:36:03 Does that also affect bonding and our cost of borrowing ripples through the economy. Yeah, yeah. So we missed the boat on the lowest.
15:36:12 We we missed the boat on the lowest price of money.
15:36:17 But yeah, I as an individual, I did not miss out. I got 2 and a quarter on the refi
15:36:24 But the the market tends to so a quarter percent increase in the prime rate. frequently generates a larger proportional increase in credit card rates.
15:36:37 Carlone rates more the joints
15:36:40 So where does municipal debt fall? In relation to that?
15:36:48 We might have been able to get 3 and a half before I think we're probably looking at 5 and I think they're going to be 2 more rate increases this year, I mean cause there's
talk the only way.
15:37:00 To kill the inflation is to have a recession right it's the only tool really in the tool.
15:37:05 I mean, does that mean that we should strike while the iron is still signed?
15:37:12 Kind of warm I don't believe we're gonna see rates drop in the next 3 to 5 years.
15:37:20 So if we know rates. are going I mean It's a strategy, I we would have to consult with Stacy and see what she thinks.
15:37:30 But I I think we can say for certain that interest rates are gonna continue to go up, and we have no debt right now.
15:37:40 But we don't know what direction we want to go. so it's interesting like you're talking more about it.
15:37:46 The public works facility than justice facility, I mean, I I dream about a building on the 6 parcels up at the port towns and business park.
15:37:59 And I can see the 2 tone brick and I can see the landscaping, and the nice we would not need a retention facility for storm water, because we'll pipe it down the hill
15:38:13 But when they did the sub area plan for Renaire the consultant free of charge, did a little conceptual site Plan for county facility, and a very nice building would fit there.
15:38:27 And I get to say, Okay, but plenty of parking, plenty of ev charging stations.
15:38:40 If you started the sentence, if I were to
15:38:43 If you started the sentence, if I were just going to choose you would. But you didn't finish you would you the long justice center.
15:38:48 Would be your top capital priority. Yes, now, if the public works is gonna need, well, the shop, the job at least and and what we would have to do, and it might be worth hiring.
15:39:03 An architect to help us with this thinking would We want to move every single activity out of this building into a into a new building.
15:39:16 I don't think we would want to take all the Castle Hill folks and the folks in this building and put them in one, because that would make the price of the the building unaffordable
15:39:29 But a 3 I don't know we have 40,000 square feet in this building.
15:39:33 And we're bursting at the seam, and and renting other offices right now, but it's not very efficiently used.
15:39:39 40,000 plus square feet. No, in in in the space here is not ideally subdivided.
15:39:46 I mean your offices are little cracker box things you you know.
15:39:50 I've got this big one, so anybody want one I want a lot of real chambers that's what I really some of the details inside or not all that great, but from from a utility point
of view, it's a great
15:40:13 facility. very large chambers, a training room next to it, with 2 sets of double doors that can be opened in the event.
15:40:22 You have an extra large crowd There was a cafe on the first floor.
15:40:26 There was a locker room for people who bike to work to take showers
15:40:33 The parking structure right next to it. yeah, I mean.
15:40:36 And and then Mason County. No. Benton County just built a new county building that could serve as a model for what we might do here.
15:40:53 So let's think about it. is we could call it the the Dean Brotherton eisenhower bad luck.
15:41:05 Don't you have to dive No There Well, there was a the what was it?
15:41:12 The clerk. Regional wastewater district they built a pump station on I 5, and they named it after one of their commissioners. Yeah, I I don't think we need that.
15:41:27 No, but I I do. I mean when I start going down this rabbit hole, I come back again and again to like this building like this feels like the the 100 million dollar question what
to do with this building and I I don't even
15:41:45 care I mean it's a beautiful building I respect it's integrity.
15:41:50 But what on earth would become of this building that's the natural place thing to happen
15:42:12 Yeah, I i'd be fine. stay input here wouldn't be any closer to my house.
15:42:16 But did you say superior Court would be a nice chamber, well, I mean we could.
15:42:21 We could move the prosecuting attorney juvenile, and the 2 courts out, and the civil deputies
15:42:31 Stretch our legs, and you could have a turret.
15:42:33 You could have but then we still have to think about I don't.
15:42:46 The jail is is structurally sound but it's pretty it's gonna be pretty darn outdated sand.
15:42:53 I mean, I think there's a number of upgrades that are going to be needed there.
15:42:55 Public workshop. Yeah. The jail was built in the old style.
15:43:01 The new style is direct supervision where you you're in with the inmates.
15:43:07 And yeah, that jail needs to work yeah and of course, the Eoc and the 9 1 one call center.
15:43:16 They're jammed into what 1,800 square feet ridiculous!
15:43:22 They need another 1,500 to 2,000. And we actually did a you know, the simple engineering study with a consultant.
15:43:29 And We were going to expand 2,500 square feet, and and then scaled it back to 1,500 which would meet their needs for probably 2 decades.
15:43:40 It seems like we should do an assessment of like credit.
15:43:43 What's most critical right, and so if if you know with the if we could obtain funding through the mechanisms that are out there.
15:44:07 Then we could do the expansion How but I don't think the county can afford it on its own
15:44:14 Could Jeff come go in a new law and justice center in town, and there's no reason that it or is it having approximate to the sheriff's office.
15:44:21 Well, they'd have to have that communications tower and i'm not sure that we would wanna , on on a on a campus housing a new county building but I think that might be an increment
15:44:37 use. Hmm! Is it is it possible to secure financing for a number of different buildings?
15:44:48 If we said we're gonna you know build a new justice center and upgrade 3 buildings and roll it into one capital improvement plan.
15:45:03 But one debt mechanism. we could design a debt package that would allow us to do that.
15:45:12 I I heard it mentioned this morning. Size sizeic retrofitting for this building is that been cost whatever?
15:45:20 Not for a while, but it was i'm sorry I didn't hear that seismic retrofitting for this building
15:45:37 Right. They did the clock tower, and I think that was 2 and a half to 3 million, all by itself.
15:45:43 The rest of the building. 10 years ago I think it was estimated that it would cost 20 million, and then, of course, would Would you alter the historic look and feel of the building?
15:45:56 The clock tower was modified. and dah!
15:46:03 What is it that the historic preservation people gave the green light for that?
15:46:07 I imagine they would give the green light, for other work especially if it would keep the courthouse from collapsing in the event of the Cascadia event, and maybe even a retrofit
wouldn't save it from that
15:46:21 but you know, if we had a 7 or a 6 you know maybe maybe the the building could survive.
15:46:27 But that's still without hvac you know it was like electrical systems that are right Really, old you know it's it's really hard to know how much money to put into this building.
15:46:42 But if we don't, who will exactly cost a couple 100,000 a year. And who's gonna step up to pay that gets really overwhelming I love this?
15:47:12 Building I like it, too. I don't know it's pretty, but it is not very functional and we can't even put things on the walls.
15:47:29 I just hope the big one signals too, is that it's coming.
15:47:35 We we can all get into heidi's office get into Heidi's office. We should speaking of which we did this in the Maritime center, and I know I mentioned that to you we should have
15:47:54 evacuation drills. Yeah, And we should have a mustering point, and we should have I did right.
15:48:00 Organize that for the maritime center. so i'm happy to help work with Willie, or do whatever.
15:48:04 But
15:48:13 Yeah, yeah. we were asking for that, Pre Covid, and then we had our mass shooting back training active shooter training Hmm.
15:48:26 Throw stuff at the shooter? It's my takeaway surprise me? You You're right. Hmm.
15:48:34 Okay, Well, what else do we wanna we're not gonna finish this today?
15:48:39 Well, so I mean we just everyone take a look at this list I mean we're kind of out of arpa funds.
15:48:46 Well, especially that entry right there, which one mill road project that is what we're not the Pv drive in that that wasn't that's happened. Yeah, we committed that I was a
to help them with grant match to get a what 9 and a
15:49:08 half 1 million dollar Grant Yup, they did maybe the child child care, but they're still going for it right?
15:49:15 Yeah, that to Jefferson help So, Greg: that amount from Mill Road is not with any additional funds in it.
15:49:23 Yeah, that is correct. We are still, too. And so operating, You know the project is on.
15:49:31 Hold right now until we get the you know at least 374,000, and really for some operations, another $500,000 for that project.
15:49:39 It's pretty critical. i'm i'm gonna bring it up at the house and fund board on Wednesday, and that's that's just because of the the revenue sharing dollars being so imperiled
right
15:49:55 Now, I don't know where we would get that money yeah. there's 2,200 counties, I believe, is the revenue sharing count that's a pretty big constituency.
15:50:11 And every State probably has a wassack like we do.
15:50:16 And Nico, all fighting to preserve this you're still feeling optimistic.
15:50:20 It sounds like, yeah, I mean I just do not like committing to anything until you're so you're certain right that's prudent.
15:50:32 I mean the 500, if we we've committed but we'll have at least that right.
15:50:37 I mean that's that's that seems to say well if they cut it in half. Yeah, we'll have at least the 500 and as much of maybe as 2 million I don't know do you have any sense of
the timing of when
15:50:51 they're gonna make that decision is it the end of the year
15:51:02 No, I mean it's in stalemate right now. So , 30 September is the end of the Federal fiscal year.
15:51:09 So we should know by then. And yeah, and the the good news is is that no action means that we get it.
15:51:17 So you know it is law, and so there has to be a pretty drastic effort.
15:51:24 And There's not enough support for i'm the trouble is the 2 camps, the Democrats fighting for more covid funding, and the Republicans fighting for immigration reform They there
isn't really a
15:51:39 champion for the revenue sharing they're They're each holding it hostage with a different issue in the Senate.
15:51:46 Well, Senate actually voted. I think they already approved the callback.
15:51:51 So but you know so if it's kind of a it's it's being used as a pond this funding
15:52:06 But good news being because they're so dysfunctional and can't get anything done that no news you know, is good news, because it will just remain in and then we'll have to be
spent by the end of the fiscal
15:52:13 year,
15:52:19 Which is all that's also playing into the democrats willingness to use this as a bargaining chip because they want Covid and to ukraine funding so it's not great for us
15:52:33 except that if they can't agree to anything then the default is that we get the funding right? I don't.
15:52:44 I don't often hope for you know deadlocks and assumption. but maybe that's how i'm rooting right now.
15:52:51 Can you help me understand the arba amounts here, which which amount. So in Arpa, the second Tranche, expected July 2022 you have the 3 million and then funds
15:53:07 committed headlock sewer, 750,002, account for the uncommitted 2,021 funds. Correct I mean if you look at the red number up above figuring out what to
15:53:25 do with this money. A lot of counties are having difficulty with that. not here.
15:53:30 No, and you've been very very proactive and and we know that we know that Tranche is coming, and I I guess it'll be in July.
15:53:41 Yeah. yeah. it was just I had this sense that Bloomberg, looking at this last.
15:53:48 I was like. No, we got to like look at this. but with the fine-toothed comb, you know . So that's American.
15:53:59 I did last week. True up Well, we could use that 262, and make a big dent on on causal brown monkey, and with this sheet I put 1 8 in there for mill road and then we went to
15:54:16 a minus, you know, 37,000 down below , And then Heidi consulted with Kate.
15:54:23 Kate said they take out that 300 because we haven't committed yet.
15:54:25 So that's the only reason we have the 2 62 at the bottom.
15:54:31 Well, I mean you don't have something else to use it will have that money.
15:54:35 We need it. It would start the project again if we could get this.
15:54:38 We could also take, you know, commit a chunk of capital funds to the headlock sewer instead of our phone.
15:54:48 Oh, right I mean, if we could get, you know, 400 that would turn everything on again.
15:55:00 They just finish phase 2 A. So when when is it gonna stop?
15:55:05 Though. Yeah, what is what can we stop we've spent what if we do that we'll have spent 2 million of our funds on it. and then is that enough?
15:55:13 That's enough to get phase 2 a and they're looking for Housing Trust Fund.
15:55:17 Another other fun. . for any future development. they that's what Yeah, that's what all the cap is presented to us, and that's that's the plan.
15:55:29 So yeah, that would be the end of the infrastructure environment from us.
15:55:33 There's operations they think they can get some funds for operations and shift stuff around.
15:55:38 But if they're not moving to permanent support of housing for years, which is what I think will happen it's I don't i'm not sure if there's operation funds are actually realistic,
so but you
15:55:47 know we have other revenue streams you know our normal you know, recording fees and everything that we have rfps for already.
15:55:56 So they'll they'll look for it you know 400 would finish phase 2 a
15:56:29 And capital funds could be used for the sewer right? that's not a problem.
15:56:33 , Oh, yeah,
15:56:39 Do you guys think about that?
15:56:43 I don't know I would love to see us putting more money into other segments of housing
15:56:52 Which will be an ask from the city, too. They're really wanting a commitment on Evans Vista.
15:56:57 I gave my commandment to my well it's in revenue sharing, and it's down and then funding candidates category.
15:57:09 Yeah, I mean right. And I I think the reason we had funding candidates was because we didn't know when or how much we were going to receive.
15:57:22 But we actually have a contract now. with Yeah, have a chat for Mason Street, No, no, I was.
15:57:30 That's Is that why evans vista is not up there?
15:57:38 Because we don't have a contact with them yet or they don't even know what it's for at this point, I mean, we you know we supportive of it and I think that this is like a a
gesture.
15:57:49 That we wanted to work, but I I don't know what the money would go to right now.
15:57:55 It's not the acute need , that we have
15:58:08 The road maintenance trailer is for the shop to replace the rented one.
15:58:12 It's to buy the one they're renting and so I mean they can keep running it 30,000 a year.
15:58:22 Yeah, can that be a capital project? Can the road maintenance trailer be capital?
15:58:30 They could. but they have, you know, in the you know, capitalist, like building an actual facility there, I think, would be an ideal long trip solution. right? So do you.
15:58:39 Maybe you know, 3 years of the rent renting the trailer would be cheaper than if we are going to be able to, you know.
15:58:46 Put them in a permanent building, cause that it sounds pretty substandard as a long term operations for the road.
15:58:54 The road crew 6 and a half, 6 and a half 1 million.
15:59:06 Yeah,
15:59:24 And then there's always the desire to save something because there's the things we don't know about. yet right I mean in capital, and you know, there's probably gonna be emergent
needs believe in art But we have till
15:59:38 26. just send it So we know that there will always be needs.
15:59:47 Yeah,
16:00:04 Please remind me, Mark, in the capital funds transferred to Cnr.
16:00:11 Oh, that's construction and renovation okay is that for community centers!
16:00:18 That that will fund the upfront work. Okay, so is everything.
16:00:25 In the first time. So far those amounts not the child care yet.
16:00:38 The 378 to the Pda.
16:00:42 We send that to them the 500 we sent to Edc the 343 for premium pay, I think, was Payton January, the 30,000 or 2 public health was transferred So so we have
16:00:59 some cash flow. flexibility with the broadband match for Pd and for the headlock sewer, because they're invoicing us as they spend the money That's true the broadband match.
16:01:15 As well. just I'm concerned, because our over over committed 2,021 funds are over 2 million dollars.
16:01:23 We get the other one in July yeah it's it's soon and with sewer being flexible
16:01:37 Yeah, So the 500 for mill road we haven't that We just added, We haven't spent that we haven't spent the bulk of the 1,000,150 for hadlock.
16:01:46 We've spent none of the 2 90 for jefferson healthcare, and we've spent none of the 7 50 for pud
16:01:59 So 7, 50 plus 500 plus I don't know how much we've sent to havelock sewer. but I I think we have 800,000 left there, so by the time, Joe, I get here.
16:02:11 We get the second tranche we'll be fine
16:02:23 It's just a lot of these activities needed to know that the funds were committed so that they could move ahead
16:02:36 But if we were to to throw more money at Mill Road, would that put us in a cash flow, find? or could we do a A Funds transfer to cover temporarily some time to spend the money?
and then?
16:02:58 Get invoiced. I mean then what then we'll get invoice, and then we'll have some time before we have to pay the invoice.
16:03:05 Yeah, I mean it's a month from construction once we say give the green light.
16:03:09 They don't have the green light right now so the amount we were talking about last, for that was 300,000.
16:03:15 But then today said 3, 74, and then he said, 5, I said, 3, 3, 74 was always the the number.
16:03:22 I said there's there's gonna be an you know there's gonna be soon an operational shortfall that, you know, if we can just get the infrastructure and I think we can cover that
they've got other you
16:03:33 know they're taking grants They can they're shifting things around with shelter operations and things.
16:03:40 So yeah, it's the the number for the hard numbers to finish the bid is 3 74 3, 75, 3, 74, and change.
16:03:48 So are they not able to do much with the 500,000 suite committed?
16:03:54 Well, they can't like that won't pay for electrical to each site.
16:04:02 So it would mean that. and once you move people down there because this is this: you know this 374 allows them to open up 26 more spots right?
16:04:11 You can't move them down there and then start excavating for the electrical to the spots until we know after you move people down, or it's gonna cost a huge amount to move them
back, and then and then excavate
16:04:20 so they can't really proceed until they have that 3 7Â min
16:04:33 If we could do that, then we could, I mean right now.
16:04:37 My plan is to top 50 $90 but you know there's. There was a real push from the from lots of folks last year to come up with the process before we start allocating more money
through 59 and So it's gonna be a little
16:04:53 bit of a that's gonna be a hard ask this is a much easier ask, cause I mean it does benefit. you know the city as much as it benefits the county right?
16:05:05 I mean, this is the integer population that we mitigate the impacts.
16:05:12 From having them on the street throughout the city as well.
16:05:15 So, but if we could get that project going, it would. it would take a a load off my shoulders.
16:05:25 Well given that that it hasn't just for fun meeting is Wednesday.
16:05:32 Could we wait till after that discussion, and see how that goes?
16:05:38 You know I would really love to be leveraging other other funds as much as possible with these you know.
16:05:46 And if 1,590 can be used for that, and then we have a few 100,000 to put towards something that's gonna you know.
16:05:54 Yeah, I mean it's an ideal use of *, *.
16:06:00 It's very qualifies, you know you have to use 60% of those funds for you know, very, very low, income. And for people with, you know, substance use stores mental health issues
so it absolutely.
16:06:12 Qualifies i'm just kind of afraid of the perception that you know we're doing a second trance to only cap without a competitive process, which is what everyone that's a big
reason we had the
16:06:24 affordable housing task force in the first place. well we can try, and you know It's part of the challenge with workforce housing is that there's there's so few funding sources.
.
16:06:41 Yeah, 50 90 can't be used. right. so if we can use this, for you know. Yeah, i'm. i'm happy with that revisit it next week.
16:06:49 , Okay, that sounds like I could pass forward. Yep.
16:06:52 I can get behind that the housing team for us. So since I feel like
16:07:03 I just felt like I hadn't, I I really appreciate Mark doing this, doubling down on this because it there's more we committed to more stuff.
16:07:16 And sure enough, Okay, so is there anything else on? sounds like revenue sharing?
16:07:21 We might know more by the fourth quarter and when's the session over there.
16:07:30 So probably probably the fiscal year. So September thirtieth.
16:07:34 Yeah. Okay, Ping crystal again and to see if She's heard anything, cause I think, for now we should hold off on committing anything else to that category, although we could
still you know the the
16:07:54 proposal would still have us getting 1 million plus per year.
16:08:06 So I know it just i've seen things change so Yeah, that's a they could call back more if it does, .
16:08:16 Become a marketing chip. Yeah, you need immigration and right?
16:08:26 Okay, so are there any more priority capital projects on the other list?
16:08:32 Mark that we should consider adding to the I think we should Pat.
16:08:38 Okay, yeah, Community center, I mean there's a lot on here already.
16:08:43 Okay, great, I don't. Are we done with this this item for today sounds good.
16:08:53 The only thing like on our agenda are kind of standard standing agenda, and the items covid 19, which I think we got our update from Dr.
16:09:05 Barry and this morning I don't know if you have anything else you wanna add it's just it's been so quiet on the county front.
16:09:14 Internal to the organization, like we just have not Yeah, the saying I I when we canceled the Covid coordination meeting a week and a half ago.
16:09:25 I spent so much time like writing an email to all the directors elected. And yeah, just put like a ton of effort into it, to be sure, like checking with Dr.
16:09:34 Barry multiple times like, Is this the right wording? and and literally did not hear one response back: Okay, people are done.
16:09:42 Yeah, So he goes to all levels. Yeah, so so I don't I don't.
16:09:50 I can't think of anything pressing I mean it seems kind of status quo at this point.
16:09:55 It's weird that case rates can be so high but it's not affecting.
16:09:59 I've not heard of county staff out sick hospitalization rates are low, really low.
16:10:09 And yeah, so nope, Nothing on Covid front for me.
16:10:15 So I think I mentioned this morning on the boards and committees.
16:10:18 They can see that we're gonna have 3 all the the pip citizens.
16:10:23 So it's an opportunity to recruit a fresh yeah from each of our districts.
16:10:32 How long have they been serving some a long time, I think, , Yeah, I think maybe we pointed them when we read no cause Joe Johnson was district one.
16:10:42 So the district. One is the newest and then the other 2 have been.
16:10:46 They've done the 2 rounds Now, I I wasn't involved with the pit board right away.
16:10:56 When I got here. I think Philip pulled me in I don't know 2019, Yeah.
16:11:04 But it had been inactive, until 5 years ago Yeah, So do you think that there's any reason to have like an at least an annual meeting, I mean i've heard that sometimes it's gone
years without a meeting
16:11:17 And so, Justin, just to keep the group kind of formed.
16:11:22 Yeah one, especially since they're funding the edc that's an important check in Point and to get project updates because we've had things stay on there for long long time.
16:11:35 And then end up falling off and never get used and Then it's like, Okay, we just tied up $200,000 for 10 years.
16:11:43 Something could have been done with that money we've only got 2 projects now, and one of them is in a state of animation.
16:11:50 But suspended animation,
16:12:00 Yeah, everybody wants to talk about that. i'm like no not my problem.
16:12:01 Yeah, yeah, Eric, tape and nailed it. At the last meeting he said that we went to the pipboard and asked for money for this project.
16:12:09 That you know we hadn't done the outreach on So at least there's there's an admission that more public outreach probably should have occurred and on on that front I had a good
conversation with cindy brooks from edc She was
16:12:27 a little concerned. There were 3 documents that she was kind of trying to abide to with slightly different reporting requirements, and so I came back and made a little spreadsheet
for and sent it back, and I said Well, one of these
16:12:35 documents sup receives the other one. so one you don't have to pay attention to.
16:12:40 So I think we got her some clarity and
16:12:46 Yeah. So okay, and I can't remember there were a couple of other vacancies coming up, and I I just wrote a note about the piff board because I felt like that was the most pressing
one.
16:13:00 I think there's a vacancy pdf yeah on the website.
16:13:10 Oh, you're right okay, sorry about my screen so Climate Action Committee has a vacancy that's right left retirement noxious weed.
16:13:25 Oh, i'm i'm waiting for I gotta get 10 letters from people in my district which is mostly on the West End.
16:13:30 So I'm slowly getting it, but everyone just says as long as they don't spray my roadway.
16:13:40 3 of 10 3 of 10 i'll get on we'll just go to the community center on food bank day, and just say, here sign is it's only it's only part of It's kind of like Leland and then
mostly on the West end right i'm just
16:13:55 a carve out of It's a weird district I I thought it was until until recently I thought it was just the West End alright.
16:14:07 We have Anna and Matt or advertising for develop d bad development, and as advertising for one vacancy there and then.
16:14:15 That's working on the parks and wrecked but I think that's district one gate.
16:14:22 This is approved. Oh, yeah, yeah I think you're right?
16:14:31 And then I think the planning commission upcoming vacancies are what we extended.
16:14:37 I think it was Lorna Smith and crystalline Chris Llewellen that we extended in the July.
16:14:46 And so Cynthia is coming to talk to you I don't know about about her seat. but we need to start planning for those one.
16:14:59 I hate an even numbered board can't we just get 2 can't we?
16:15:03 We can add, we, we can add a tribal. And another citizen.
16:15:07 Rep: Can we a user of public health? I think that would be better better to have more diversity than well, those are required.
16:15:17 No one will. I mean, Yeah, yeah, I don't know if I have either, We're losing, too.
16:15:27 Dennis and Shela Well, no those positions won't exist any longer.
16:15:39 We have to . balance the 3 categories Hmm: Okay, , miscellaneous items.
16:15:57 Does anyone have any miscellaneous items as if we've just been politely waiting? Yeah, our pizza.
16:16:06 It's in the so for feature agenda items I am working on, as you know, on the May sixteenth workshop on Fever Valley sorts, and have a invited someone from Dnr to be with us
16:16:20 and we'll awesome right nowory or katherine cause she's doing some of the carbon analysis for us.
16:16:29 So and then potentially school district and fire district.
16:16:38 But there's also Jeff had some really good insight about some of the other implications to other junior taxing districts are actually some of the the financial capacity that
was represented in historic Dnr timber
16:16:54 sales has been back filled by levies and bonds for schools and fire, but not so much for other things like the library, So i'm going to talk to camera and 76 grand for the library
16:17:10 but I don't know so so I am asking each of these junior taxing districts.
16:17:15 How have they in the past been planning for inconsistent funding for these timber sales?
16:17:22 Because some some districts like quilting and quoting fire have had more consistent revenue.
16:17:27 But there's more timber harvest happening but others have had very inconsistent like construct could stretch 4 or 5 years before the timber sale, and so I don't rely on it because
that's so
16:17:41 unpredictable. How is he been there a long time?
16:17:47 So how is he planned or or utilized or you know thanked that inconsistent revenue to the school district?
16:17:55 So there's a lot of interesting micro conversations within these conversations, for example, 2,016 in 2,016.
16:18:08 The school chemical school district actually started getting revenue from the timber sales.
16:18:14 Prior to that at Ospi they would offset the revenue.
16:18:16 Coming to the to the school districts and and reduce their ospi allocation, so that wasn't even that was it wasn't even a factor 6 years ago.
16:18:29 And so i'm wondering what other kinds of see changes there are out there, because, you know, Chimney comes like we don't even really rely on that funding.
16:18:40 Well, I have a timber county's caucus on May eleventh before our workshop.
16:18:46 So if you you know, be great to you know interface with someone you're working with to get that information so I can represent, because I have.
16:18:52 I have a feeling our letter will come up as a timber counties.
16:19:00 , , my computer just died.
16:19:01 I forget. Well well, good timing right? Yes, surely I mean should be done.
16:19:07 But hey, Mark, do you mind opening up the agenda planner for next week?
16:19:13 I'm considering training, virtually next week but if There's anything that I well be good to know what's on the agenda to help make that decision, because it's not so fun to
join virtually
16:19:30 Is that San Diego? Maybe you want exactly calling from Tijuana.
16:19:40 What could go wrong
16:19:49 The window makes a big difference on It what's it that now 5 months almost outdoors it's in the high sixes before I open the window.
16:20:01 It's been on the 5 ever since I mean it's that high 6 isn't still fine right
16:20:18 Oh, there it is right here
16:20:31 Okay, Kate, out in Dc. next week. Executives? Hmm.
16:20:36 That next week, on May second environmental health hearing notice, proclamation, proclamation.
16:20:47 So that's always see. Okay, So not a heavy lift next week not a big workshop.
16:20:54 Yeah, not currently Okay, what's the environmental health Do We have to do something for the drinking water program.