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09:20:28 This Grant could, could, you know, partially address the the worst?
09:20:34 The worst case is a failing septic system but i'm that I will.
09:20:39 That's why I was particularly glad to see it felt very kind of current current to me.
09:20:46 I was glad to see that we're support on and support, giving our planning commissioners a stipend for their their work.
09:20:53 A lot of them have been sitting on the planning commission for many years, and their experience would be very difficult to replace.
09:21:01 So I think, compensating for them for a little bit for the time that they spend as a good move on the part of DCD.
09:21:09 And i'll lastly I would just say i'm at this is a personal note, but i'm really sad to see how Bb.
09:21:15 Leave the library board. how's been on the library board since I was working with a library on the capital campaign to remodel the library, and I really enjoyed working with
him back then and work closely with them, and appreciated his commitment
09:21:29 to the library and long service. so sad to see you go.
09:21:35 How, but glad you're gonna get some of your time back
09:21:41 So those were the few things I noticed On consent. Kate, I say, your hang your finger!
09:21:44 Go up. Yeah, just a couple of more things the this type in for the planning commission.
09:21:50 I'm also glad to see that we're moving forward with that. that is a movement across the State, and in both state and local governments to try to compensate people for their
time.
09:22:02 A little bit, in hopes that we can get more diversity on those boards, so that it's not just folks with a lot of extra time and resources that can serve but instead given a
greater diversity of lived experience on
09:22:13 volunteer boards. So i'm glad that we're doing that.
09:22:16 And then also just wanted to point out I think every year I'm. i'm surprised to see and I think it's okay continues to increase how much we are paying to lease other space for
county offices and the just drives home
09:22:31 again that we need to be doing that long term capital planning for the county for our own operations.
09:22:38 And so re re re re-inspired to be thinking about that plan, for you know whether it's administrative offices or or justice facility.
09:22:49 How how do we think about the future of county operations and where we're going to house people and what's the most financially and responsible direction to head yeah great
having anything you want to add them Okay, well do I have
09:23:09 a motion to pass the consent. Agenda
09:23:16 I'll second all in favor bye bye none of those passes unanimously.
09:23:26 Bunch of good work there. Okay, So it is 9, 23.
09:23:31 Does anybody up? I see a hand going up so 7Â min for public comment
09:23:45 Good morning, Mr. Tears you can unmute yourself. and you'll have 3Â min for public comment morning.
09:23:55 Thank you. chair iisenhower for the way that you have honored the extension of the the public comment period here.
09:24:04 You know to go to go all the way to 9 30 that's something that hadn't been done in the past, and I I think it's really helpful that that you do that some people don't arrive
on
09:24:15 time some of us aren't quite ready to make our comments at 9 o'clock in the morning.
09:24:21 I did want to. I I have a request for Commissioner Brotherton.
09:24:25 When you get to reporting on your your past week's activities, I was unfortunately on it to attend the solid waste committee meeting because I had a conflicting appointment
with another committee.
09:24:39 But I would like to hear what was discussed at that at that meeting.
09:24:44 With respect to the changes that are being made to the recycling program.
09:24:47 One of the the big issues i've been having here is There's a lack of information about what is and what is not being changed.
09:24:57 I mean all the focus has been on plastics and rightly So I mean, that's a big issue and a big big change.
09:25:05 But there are other changes that are being made apparently to what is going to be acceptable for recycling that haven't been documented.
09:25:13 The So, for example, under mixed paper flyer says if you don't see it on this flyer.
09:25:19 It can't be recycled. Well, there are other things like egg curtains, for example, or other uses of compressed paper pulp that are perfectly recyclable, just as recyclable as
newspaper or any other kind of
09:25:32 mixed paper, but they aren't on the flyer so you know what are we?
09:25:37 What are we to take from that? the other one that that kind of bothers me is metal.
09:25:43 It'll Kansas. all It says well aluminum is one of the most valuable and most recyclable materials on the planet. but it's but like aluminum pipelines Nope not on
09:25:57 the list, and, in fact, if you dig way down deep somewhere in the solid waste documents, it says, no you, you can't.
09:26:05 We don't take aluminum foil anymore.
09:26:08 Well, that's that's darn shame there ought to be a way to do that, because it's very valuable product, you know everything that goes to the Landfill We're paying for it and
you know
09:26:20 Murray is profiting from that. I wonder why they have a seat on the solid waste committee.
09:26:27 Seems like a conflict of interest in any case. the fact that that a lot of these changes have not been documented, that the official staff report from solid waste says that
the only changes quote unquote are to the plastics
09:26:38 recycling where we're reverting to 2015 practices.
09:26:43 That that's simply not not accurate there are other changes that are going on like for example, the cores from toilet paper and other rolled paper products.
09:26:53 Those should be recyclable. But now the new video from Mr.
09:26:59 Brotherson says that apparently they're not don't see documentation for that, anyway.
09:27:04 I really would like to have a a clearer explanation, and maybe a little report on what happened at that meeting.
09:27:09 Thanks very much. Thank you, Mr. Karsh. Anybody else on the attendee list wishing to make public comment.
09:27:19 Good would love to hear from more members of our community if there's anyone who has anything they'd like to share.
09:27:26 If not, we will move on to I guess we could take care of proclamations.
09:27:37 We have little over 15Â min. I just say, as soon as I get to my report I will respond to Mr.
09:27:45 Tears in detail. yeah, I think we I think it'd be great to figure no my and on my agenda the proclamations aren't linked. so see I need to find a different version of the agenda
if someone
09:28:01 else wants to lead us off on the proclamations.
09:28:05 I have to find
09:28:11 No, I don't have it if someone's here for help me.
09:28:14 They can raise their hands
09:28:24 If there's anyone from nami that would like to to say anything before we look at the mental health awareness month proclamation, please raise your hand, and we'll bring you
over
09:28:36 National alliance for mental illness is Nami not seeing anybody
09:28:47 And I can't open the proclamation for somebody i'll say a little something about it while we wait for that.
09:28:55 You know this is in my lifetime. never been a more critical issue than it is right now, with everyone dealing with our whole worldview being shaken up for the last couple of
years experienced it in my household you
09:29:09 know, being aware of the issues that are going on and destigmatizing mental health issues is is critical work, and something that we all only to pay attention to.
09:29:22 So I I think there's been a lot of good work, and on destigmatizing this, and especially some of them, are rural areas where you know not talking about an issue has been kind
of the the norm.
09:29:34 And I think that it just everyone's detriment when that happened, so acknowledging issues that are going on working through problems dealing with trauma and addressing issues
is is really critical.
09:29:45 And non. His work is great, and this is an easy proclamation to support. agreed.
09:29:51 Would anyone like I? I was able to open the proclamation.
09:29:55 Would anyone like to kick us off with reading the proclamation I'm.
09:29:58 Happy to start If okay, here I go proclamation, whereas mental health is essential to everyone's overall health and well-being.
09:30:11 And whereas all Americans face challenges in life that can impact their mental health, especially during a pandemic.
09:30:20 And whereas prevention is an effective way to reduce the burden of mental health conditions, and whereas there are practical tools that all people can use to improve their mental
health and increased resiliency, and whereas mental health conditions are
09:30:35 real and prevalent in our nation; and whereas, with effective treatment, those individuals with mental health conditions can recover and lead full productive lives, and whereas
each business, school, government, agency, healthcare provider organization, and citizens share the burden
09:30:54 of mental health problems, and has a responsibility to promote mental wellness and support.
09:30:59 Prevention and treatment efforts. Now, therefore, we, the Board of County Commissioners, do hereby proclaim May 2022 as Mental Health Awareness month in Jefferson County, Washington
as the Board of County Commissioners We also
09:31:13 call upon the citizens, government agencies, public and private institutions, businesses and schools in Jefferson County, Washington, to commit our community to increasing awareness
and understanding of mental health.
09:31:26 The steps are citizens can take to protect their mental health and the need for appropriate and accessible services for all people with mental health conditions, and I think
it's great that Patrick has now joined us and maybe he can make
09:31:38 some comments. Now that we've just read our proclamation declaring this month is mental health awareness month.
09:31:45 Patrick. Yes, thank you, Madam chairman, you You got to this a little bit earlier than that I anticipated.
09:31:51 But nevertheless, thank you for for the proclamation.
09:31:53 Just a word about proclamations. You issue many of them on behalf of the citizens of Jefferson County and the County Commission, and every one of them are important, and in
no less than this proclamation about mental health
09:32:06 awareness month commissioner, Brother Tun, and the proclamation itself, in the comments from all of you, have emphasized the importance of awareness.
09:32:16 We know that stigma is a major barrier to people seeking treatment for mental illness.
09:32:22 It imposes a dramatic burden on them as well as on their family members.
09:32:27 And so anything that we can do, including proclamations and and bringing mental illness to the attention of the public is extremely important.
09:32:35 So, even though this is one of many proclamations that you issue, it's extraordinarily important, and it does make a difference.
09:32:42 And Nami in the entire community that works with people who have a mental illness and their families, is deeply appreciative of the good work that the County Commission does
on behalf of the citizens of Jefferson County So Thank you for this proclamation.
09:32:54 And thank you for your support and good work. Thank you, Patrick, and we are very grateful for you and your leadership of that organization locally.
09:33:05 Critical role in our community. Thank you. If I could. Heidi.
09:33:13 Yeah. I just wanted to say thank you to Patrick, and all the you know.
09:33:19 Enormous on a volunteer effort that goes in on nami's part, and also just call out the many, many organizations within our community that are really committed to trauma, informed
care and other approaches of service
09:33:31 providing that that really take mental health into consideration and in the the 5 or 6 years I've been in this role.
09:33:38 I have seen that increase dramatically where where many of our service providers start with as a starting point consideration of mental health.
09:33:53 And I think we have learned a lot in the last number of years, especially in the past couple of years, just how important that is, and i'm i'm proud of our community, continues
to double down on that effort
09:34:07 Anything else anyone wants to add. I would be happy to move that we approve the proclamation proclaiming.
09:34:13 May 2022 as mental health, awareness month a second, all in favor aye passes unanimously.
09:34:23 So be it. thank you, Patrick, for joining us this morning. looks like apple is here to talk about.
09:34:35 Are celebrating nurses proclaiming the week of May sixth, the twelfth, as nurses week and apple.
09:34:45 Do you wanna t this up you know I don't have the proclamation in front of me.
09:34:49 Do you all Have It Yeah, is that something that you'll read aloud, .
09:34:59 Also make comments after we read it I think that's best appreciated.
09:35:01 Okay, I'm happy to start and I would just start by saying that
09:35:06 I was surprised when I read this proclamation to learn that registered nurses are the largest healthcare profession in the United States, and I was surprised, and then, conversely,
not surprised, because members of my close friends and family serve in
09:35:22 that role in our community, and also across the water in Seattle. in Harvard View and the trauma trauma.
09:35:32 What's it called the critical care you know I have a friend who's a nurse on the in the kind of the hardest I I I credit her with being in the hardest department of Harvard
view because They deal with
09:35:42 the people come in with really complex issues. So I think all the nurses in our community and the communities in Washington State.
09:35:51 Deserve us to take many moments, recognizing them and sharing gratitude for them.
09:35:58 Not just this week, but every week, and so we are just gonna mark that with a proclamation, and i'll just start proclamation, whereas nearly 3.8 million registered nurses in
the United States
09:36:14 comprise our Nation's largest healthcare profession, and whereas the registered nursing profession is a bedrock supporting health, and Jefferson County, through jefferson healthcare
local medical providers, long term
09:36:27 and short-term care facilities, and the Jefferson County Public Health Department, and whereas Jefferson County public health nurses are the first line of disease, prevention,
and epidemiology, contact tracing disease tracking while
09:36:40 working with the local medical providers to assure testing and treatments for citizens with communicable diseases.
09:36:48 And whereas throughout history, then nursing profession has played major roles in in stepping into times of crisis, and providing care and innovation that is saved, lives, and
reduced suffering.
09:37:01 And whereas, just as in previous disease outbreaks, nurses across the globe have been stepping up to combat the deadly spread of COVID-19 a fairly long global outbreak that
has produced staggering numbers
09:37:10 of cases and deaths; and whereas from providing direct care to effective hospitalized patients to leading full-scale public health operations, nurses are front and center, working
around the clock to protect the health and well-being of
09:37:25 patients and the public at large; and whereas every year May 6 is celebrated as national Nurses day; and whereas May twelfth, 2,022 marks, the 200 and second birth anniversary
of florence
09:37:39 Nightingale, the Founder of Mercy. Modern nursing.
09:37:44 Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Jefferson County Commissioners to hereby proclaim May 6 through Twelfth as nurses week in Jefferson County, and ask all residents of
this community to join us in honoring our
09:37:55 health care heroes, the registered nurses who care for the public and show our appreciation.
09:38:00 Not just during this week, but at every opportunity throughout the year I i'll move that we adopt past this proclamation a second all in favor.
09:38:16 Hi! great apple! Would you like to make any comments?
09:38:22 I would thank you so much. on the coat tails of Patrick from Nami.
09:38:28 I really appreciate all of the proclamations that you make as a board in honoring
09:38:33 The incredible work that people do in our community to help keep this a a safe and healthy place to live nurses week is really meaningful to me.
09:38:43 To my staff here at Jackson County public health I too, am a nurse.
09:38:48 And it's a great sacrifice It also is a huge part of the healthcare profession, as was noted in the proclamation.
09:38:55 I think that nurses are are known in our communities, but also unsung heroes often.
09:39:03 We do work, you know, tireless shifts. We provide for the community from whole health, perspective to disease, permission to caring for the the families of sick, patients, etc.
09:39:17 The the wits, The bandwidth of a nurse in terms of what they can do is extraordinary.
09:39:24 I also want to make a shout out to the families of nurses, and know that, especially during the pandemic, there's been a great amount of dedication and commitment to helping
your loved ones you work in
09:39:36 the nursing profession do the good work that they do, and it is
09:39:42 It is such a valuable cornerstone of our community of any community.
09:39:45 So my appreciation is extended to the nurse, Jefferson.
09:39:47 Healthcare. Our colleagues there. Obviously our staff here at Jefferson County Public health.
09:39:55 And we really appreciate that the county recognizes that this profession is so meaningful and a tenant of our community.
09:40:01 So thank you very much. Thanks for being the nurse Apple
09:40:09 Okay, I don't I think we have another proclamation to consider.
09:40:12 But for this afternoon, after an agenda item that we have
09:40:19 So it's 9 40. We have 5Â min until our weekly update with Dr.
09:40:24 Barry and Willie vince I think that's enough time to do any calendaring anyone.
09:40:35 Have have it like a problem for recycling. Okay?
09:40:39 So Mr. Cheersh, made some comments about the the new educational materials and the new changes, and i'll.
09:40:48 I'll admit that even at the swack meeting there was still some confusion, and and Laura Tucker. our education specials, unfortunately, was not at the swack meeting. So some
of the things were not exactly resolved some things
09:41:00 that were talked about were, you know, metal lids which Mr.
09:41:04 Cheers called out specifically, You know and first i'll go to something that did come up with the meeting, that we are one of the 2 counties in the State that still separate
their recycling recycling is a commodity
09:41:19 you get, you know, paid for it by the time, and ours is some of the most valuable ref cycling.
09:41:25 So to the to the extent that our recycling needs to come in first thing in the morning or last thing at night, to the mirth.
09:41:33 The what is that? I forget what they that acronym stands for merchandise merchandise material material material materials material because it would it would get diluted by by
other people's
09:41:53 non separated recycling it's the contract with scoochum requires that we have a full time staff Now with Job. it is to go down around and make sure that recycling you know to
our drop-off facilities
09:42:06 and implore Ensure people are doing it right and that's that's a big problem.
09:42:13 When people want to recycle something, and aluminum foil, as an example often is contaminated by food which contaminates a lot more than just that aluminum foil that is recycled
I
09:42:22 assume that pi tens. I don't know the rationale behind that, but usually contamination is the reason that something is not added to the list.
09:42:30 I know that we've been trying to make the communication clear. so hence the the the little red red sentence at the bottom. It says if it's not on this list. then it's not recyclable
and I
09:42:45 you know we Don't we did not get a clear answer about like paper tubes toilet paper and paper towel tubes. Because Laura was not there.
09:42:51 And that's why i've gotten the information from for that the video that we made that explicitly sent wasn't recyclable.
09:42:58 So we'll still find out about that 8 cartons I think should be recyclable.
09:43:01 But they often are contaminated with broken eggbits and everything.
09:43:05 So i'll find out about that so I don't have all the answers right now.
09:43:10 Happy to get more. lives in specifically, if they are off of the can are often too small, and they'll fall through the gears and cause the whole line to be shut down, and they
often end up as projectiles and create
09:43:26 health and safety issues for the workers as Well, so that's why lives are not recyclable, but a little tip that came up with the meeting is, if you don't completely remove the
lid when you're opening a
09:43:37 10 can Then that is recyclable so just don't fully take off your lids from your 10 cans, and recycle the whole thing.
09:43:46 If it does come off inadvertently, then it becomes a health and safety issue.
09:43:49 So throw that away we we're not talking about plastics right now.
09:43:54 I think the the changes there are fairly clear but that's something that we're going for is clarity, because there's contamination reduces the value and if the value of our
recycling goes down then the
09:44:09 tipping fees go up so there's a direct correlation in the cost of our services.
09:44:14 Recycling costs money in the county and so it's a balance that that staff works out with with swacks. recommendation.
09:44:24 An advisement to to to balance the most effective recycling program with the rest of our solid waste issues.
09:44:34 So I will look more into some of the You know things like 8 cartons, and and such that are not explicitly listed, recycle, and and have a rationale for that.
09:44:45 But I think that's the long and the short of it. And I also said I would ask, based on statements I had made before about curbside recycling, and my belief that there was different
programs depending on
09:44:59 basically where you were in the county, because when I ran a business and Discovery Bay, I know that our commercial recycling was taken to Clown County, and so had a different
matrix of what was recyclable I heard from
09:45:14 waste management. good thing there at the meeting. that all residential curbside recycling, and Jefferson County does go through Jefferson Counties transfer station.
09:45:24 So all residential recycling is picked up at your curve is the same matrix that we are going over right now for the changes in Jefferson counties recycling.
09:45:33 If someone recycles something that is not recyclable.
09:45:36 I asked, What happens and it still goes through is just we get less money for it.
09:45:42 So it is not a binary end result, but something that we are trying to improve our the value that we get, and the the effectiveness of our recycling stream.
09:45:57 So, while it is kind of intuitive to throw away things that have recycling value, we are looking at the commodity value and the the overall efficiency of recyclability.
09:46:08 But there are still some commercial properties, you know, near the the border of the the county, the county line that might go to 2 to Clown County recycling.
09:46:19 I believe so do check your your contract with your cripside recycler.
09:46:24 If you're a commercial thank you gray Well, it looks like It's 9 46.
09:46:30 So I imagine that hope hoping there's Dr. barry and probably the little events, too, or in the attendee list.
09:46:40 Good morning, Dr. Barry Good morning. Nice to see you guys I've been tracking the meter. Looks like we're going up a little bit, so I'm looking forward to your report this morning.
09:46:51 We are i'm sure everybody else is too so i'll be quiet now, so so.
09:46:57 Yes, we are seeing cases continue to rise nationwide. cases are up 50% in the last 2 weeks in the United States as a whole.
09:47:07 Really across the country at this point led by the northeast but also we're seeing quite a significant rise in the west coast, and throughout the country to varying degrees.
09:47:16 We know that these case rises are in particular a dramatic undercount, because in the vast majority of the country they don't count home antigen tests in those totals and based
on our own studies here.
09:47:26 Home mansion tests are about 70% of our positive cases that we're getting in Jefferson County.
09:47:32 So we know that looking at the case, counts at the country at state level as a whole, you want to really dramatically increase them. Washington State believes that they're capturing
about 16% of the positive cases that are out there in their
09:47:45 case counts right now. Hospitalizations are unfortunately starting to rise at this point as well, particularly in the northeast.
09:47:55 But we're also trying to see that in Washington state as well in King County and Snowhovish County.
09:48:00 Now the degree of rice is small right now and we are still, seeing that the number of people hospitalized for Covid 19 is lower than it has been in much of the pandemic.
09:48:09 But that's a concerning trend from our end so part of my work this week will be to speak to my colleagues in King and Snohomish County.
09:48:20 To get a little bit more detail on what they're seeing in their hospitals there, and particularly who is getting hospitalized.
09:48:26 Because that will have implications for our response here, and how we can prevent that from happening in our region as well.
09:48:34 Deaths are thankfully continuing to decrease at this point.
09:48:36 But we are still losing about 320 Americans a day to COVID-19, which is much lower than a peak, but so much higher than we've ever seen from influenza at least since the early
1,900 in Washington as
09:48:50 we discussed in the beginning. we are seeing case rates and Hospitalsations rise particularly on the west side of the State that we're starting to see that move into the east
side of the State, as well consists in what with what we've seen
09:49:04 in prior omicron variance transmission in Jefferson County.
09:49:09 We have at this point have diagnosed 3,489 cases of Covid 19.
09:49:13 That puts our case rate at 419 per 1,000 with a 9% positivity.
09:49:19 We do have 2 of our residents currently hospitalized for a total of 122 hospitalizations.
09:49:25 In this response thankfully. We have had no additional depths, so we have lost 28 of our citizens to COVID-19 in neighboring Clown County case.
09:49:34 Rates and hospitalizations are also rising as well.
09:49:37 We have diagnosed 11,406 cases of Covid 19 for a case rate of 287 per 100,000 with a 5% positivity.
09:49:47 We have one person currently hosted in Klam County for a total of 365 hospitalizations.
09:49:53 And thankfully. We have also had no additional deaths at this time for a total of 111 deaths in Cloudland County.
09:50:00 So at this point I would say, both counties are in the high risk transmission zone.
09:50:05 We are above 200 cases per 100,000, so we do strongly recommend masking in indoor settings.
09:50:10 I think that transition back is going to take a little bit of time.
09:50:15 Many, many people in our community got the message that covid 19 was over when a lot of the restrictions went away.
09:50:22 And so I think it's gonna take a little time to get everybody on board with masking in indoor settings again.
09:50:26 But I do think it's a really good idea to do So we're seeing quite a bit of covid 19 transmission, and given that we're starting to see hospitalizations rise in some of our
neighboring
09:50:36 jurisdictions. I think it is appropriate for us to be cautious here as well.
09:50:41 The best thing we can do to prevent a serious rise in Covid.
09:50:45 19 cases in our region is to get vaccinated and boosted.
09:50:48 Our most recent hospitalization is a person who was vaccinated but not boosted and elderly, and so we do still have some folks in our community who haven't gotten that booster.
09:50:57 And if you have it, it's really critical to do so especially if you're over 65, but really any of us should get that booster. So we're up to date on our vaccinations we recommend
masking in indoor
09:51:08 settings and getting tested, right away if you're sick at all, especially if you're vaccinated your early symptoms might be quite mild, and might feel quite a bit like a cold
So it's really important to get
09:51:18 tested right away And if you are positive and high risk so if you have underlying conditions, if you're over 65, it's really really important to get treatment right away.
09:51:27 And actually all of our Kptz questions were about treatment.
09:51:31 So we can dig into a little bit more of the nitty gritty about getting treated.
09:51:35 We have been treating a lot of folks in Jefferson County in recent weeks, just because we have such a high case rate, and so many of our residents are elderly.
09:51:45 So we wanna make sure people get access to that treatment quickly and The best way to do so is to get tested early, so that we know that you're positive sooner rather than later
and can move you through.
09:51:53 The treatment process as efficiently as possible so with that I'm Happy to take any questions from our commissioners.
09:52:04 Do you have any Kate or Greg for Dr. Barry?
09:52:08 , kate so i've been doing a fair amount of testing lately, because I've been traveling, and you know I have a tickle in my throat, or you know, just trying to be cautious.
09:52:20 And are. Are we generally finding that one test is enough home test to ensure that we don't have something? Or is it the kind of thing you want to do over a 2 or 3 day period
to ensure that she really safe so
09:52:34 great question, How do we do? Testing Given that so many of us are testing at home without kind of the advice of a medical provider.
09:52:43 If you so, if you just have kind of a mild symptom, and it goes away and you test and it's negative.
09:52:48 That's good enough, but and certainly if you're testing just because you've traveled, and you don't have any symptoms.
09:52:54 A single cast should be enough for you. but if you are sick especially if you're vaccinated.
09:52:59 We know that your symptoms tend to start very early, and sometimes even before your viral load has caught up enough to get to turn positive on a test.
09:53:09 So, especially for our fully vaccinated folks. but really for anyone.
09:53:11 If you get sick and you take a test right that first day that you have symptoms, and it's negative.
09:53:16 But those symptoms persist. Take another test the next day because we have seen people turn positive 24 to 48Â h later, especially if you're vaccinated because your viral loads
are low, which is good, your low viral load makes you less likely
09:53:28 to transmit to other people less likely to get so there's symptoms.
09:53:32 But you could still turn positive. Later, so if you're sick you've got flu-like symptoms like I did a couple of weeks ago.
09:53:37 Take more than one test I tested 3 days in a row. Just to be sure it was all negative. but that's we have ample supply of antigen tests right now. and So if you're still sick
a couple of
09:53:48 days later, definitely Still, stay home whenever you're symptomatic and take a test again.
09:53:53 The next day. Thank you for that, and following up on that Dr.
09:53:58 Barry there's still you can sign up for free test to be delivered to you at home.
09:54:10 Yeah, we still have free tests here. So we have tests at Jefferson County Public health. We have tests at the libraries.
09:54:11 You can still get them sent to you directly from the State, and they come pretty fast within a few days, so you can go to the say, Yes, Covid test, and you can get additional
testing supplies every month.
09:54:18 So make sure that you have some at home for when you're sick.
09:54:22 We keep a few around here because we get viruses with small people around.
09:54:28 So it's just good to have some in your house with a lot of options for how to get them, and I recommend not waiting until you get sick to get some, but actually getting a few
that you can just have in your medicine
09:54:37 cabinet, for when those sicknesses, arise we also still have them at the fire houses in South County, and particularly if you are symptomatic, to call ahead, if you're going
to be going to a firehouse, please
09:54:50 don't just walk in to get tested for covid 19.
09:54:53 We don't want to spread covid 19 and the fire houses do call ahead same thing with our libraries.
09:54:59 You can come without an appointment. but they do ask you to go to their outdoor window not walk through the library.
09:55:04 If you're symptom and i've been in the library and heard people calling the information desk at the library.
09:55:10 And so if you have questions you can call the library and ask and i'll help you with the whole process. Yeah, there's lots of tests available, and they're also available at
pharmacies, and they're not too expensive So if
09:55:20 you have capacity to pay for tests that's another good place to get them.
09:55:25 So most of our pharmacies have over the counter home of Covid tests that you can take out.
09:55:31 So I have a question, I because I got a text message today from the Department of Health, saying that I am now eligible for a booster, and I know we've been talking checking
in on boosters for the last few
09:55:45 weeks. Is there any updated guidance that you have about boosters and ages?
09:55:49 I'm 51 I don't I kind of feel I feel fine right now.
09:55:55 You know I have. I have my first booster, so I have 2 2 shots in a booster.
09:56:01 Still feeling fine writing with that. But I did get this text, and I was like, Huh!
09:56:04 Maybe I should ask Dr. Barry Alright, so i'd see the most critical is to get that first booster.
09:56:11 And I think that's really the most important thing is to make sure that we've gotten our boosters the really the first booster.
09:56:17 The second booster. Still, not a lot of compelling evidence that people who are young, healthy don't have a lot of underlying conditions need an additional booster.
09:56:28 I think it would be reasonable if you are you know 75 and up, and you have underlying conditions to consider getting that fourth booster just as a safety precaution, because
we're starting to see those
09:56:38 hospitalizations rise in other parts of the country we haven't been able to drill down yet into exactly what's driving that hospitalization rise.
09:56:46 We should have a lot more data on that by next week, because that really just started this weekend.
09:56:52 So I think it's reasonable to wait as we did in that.
09:56:55 But if you're high risk so if you've got multiple underlying conditions, say you're 75 and up, and you've got heart failure, copd all those significant conditions that can really
set you back for covid
09:57:04 19, I think now would be a good time to consider getting that forth dose.
09:57:09 It's important to remember that we do have them available in a lot of places.
09:57:12 We have them at Jefferson. Public health We also have forth those boosters at the large number of our major pharmacies. So any of them that are giving vaccinations do also get
forth doses So there's a
09:57:23 lot of places to get them in town if you want to get a fourth dose.
09:57:27 But for someone who say 51 and healthy who doesn't have any significant, you know, immunosuppression. not a lot of evidence for a an additional booster at this point.
09:57:38 It's not going to hurt you not clear that it's gonna make a lot of difference, either.
09:57:41 I mean, what will make The biggest difference is masking in indoor settings.
09:57:45 And if you get sick, getting tested and treated right away, great, Thank you.
09:57:52 Can I ask a global question? reading about the surge in South Africa, And you know, sub variants every day.
09:57:59 B. A. 4 V. A. 5, I mean our model is kind of breaking right now. I feel like I.
09:58:05 It's like things that were we we thought we understood about the epidemiological curves and everything are not true anymore.
09:58:13 Can you talk a little to that? I would say, look.
09:58:18 Having looked a lot at those curves, nothing i'm seeing in the world right now is actually all that supporting whenever we see reductions in in mitigations and mask wearing
things like that we do see a research in some cases so i'm not
09:58:35 very surprised to see those numbers. and certainly there is a lot of kind of subvariant analysis going on right now.
09:58:43 We've got veryations on ba 2 which I think is just, adds a one layer of confusion for the public.
09:58:49 I would say right now what we're seeing worldwide is all, Macron.
09:58:53 It's just variations. on omegaron and we're so far, not seeing particularly more severe very in this this version of Omicron, but certainly it's highly highly transmissible.
09:59:05 And so I would expect that I would expect to see a surgeon cases.
09:59:09 I think the key a detail that we are seeing worldwide is that with Covid 19 we aren't able to get that persistent immunity from any possible infection.
09:59:22 We are able to get that from vaccination, we also are able to get it from prior infection.
09:59:27 You can get covid again, if you've had if you've had Covid in the past you can get it.
09:59:32 If you've been vaccinated, both of those things reduce your risk of getting it again, and most importantly dramatically reduce your risk of getting severe disease, and that
we're seeing play out But there are still enough of us in
09:59:43 the world in the United States in Jefferson County, who have not had Covid, and who have not been vaccinated against Covid or not, received a booster against Covid.
09:59:51 And that's really where we're seeing the severe disease so far, hopefully, that helps answer some of those questions.
09:59:59 I'd see our models. This is about what I would expect okay.
10:00:05 And then 1 one other global question that's just about communication strategies, and, you know, encouraging folks to get back vaccinated.
10:00:12 And I was really kind of stunned to see the vaccination rate in Brazil.
10:00:16 You know where they have their leader, their president, kind of arguing against vaccinations.
10:00:21 And yet their vaccination rate is so much higher than ours, because they, you know, believe they have a right to get vaccinated, and the trust, you know the trust with the government
agencies is different.
10:00:32 And i'm wondering is there anything we've learned from this that might help us in improve our communication strategy to try to get more folks vaccinated.
10:00:40 Yeah, I think we all. we are always looking at ways to better communicate the need for vaccination.
10:00:47 And I think, in the United States, in particular it's been a bit of an uphill battle for a wide variety of reasons so most specifically kind of very focused misinformation campaign
that is effective and the availability
10:01:01 of of access to Media that can send confusing messages.
10:01:07 I think that can be that's been a big challenge for us and I think we're still figuring out how to get past that.
10:01:13 I would say, in the global South as a whole, we often see more acceptability of vaccinations, because many people in those communities have experienced infectious diseases in
their day-to-day life in a way that we often have
10:01:27 it. In the United States we we don't see tuberculos tuberculosis outbreaks or malaria outbreaks as often as many of our neighbors in the global South and so I think
10:01:37 in many parts of the world. they have a very recent experience of getting very sick from an infectious disease, or a friend of theirs getting sick or dying, and that recent
experience helps People understand how critical vaccines.
10:01:52 Are, I think, in the United States we have been to some extent of victim of our own success in that most of us don't have a recent experience with severe infectious diseases,
and so it can be easy to forget how
10:02:04 dangerous they can be but they certainly can covid certainly can and I do think there's still more work we can do on communications to help make sure that people have access
to the best information and I think there's
10:02:18 a lot of work we need to do generally on improving trust in and access to our healthcare system.
10:02:25 I think that, that has also limited our success in the United States.
10:02:29 Having had this kind of privatized healthcare system that many people have had struggle accessing in their life, that also has limited trust in our work related to code.
10:02:41 Thank you, and I just like to remind folks who are in the attendees list.
10:02:48 I've seen the hand go up a couple of times that we don't take public comments during this session.
10:02:56 The way you get your questions in for consideration by Dr.
10:02:58 Barry or Willie Beth are to send them to Kptz the week before this meeting.
10:03:04 So thank you for being here in your interests but we just don't have the time to respond to everyone's questions and comments in our short time here with with these 2 wonderful
human beings so number of questions sent to kptz
10:03:23 last week. So yeah, and I would say we really welcome questions.
10:03:28 I think this is a really good forum to answer those questions, so please do.
10:03:31 If you have questions that you want to have answered, send them to Kptz.
10:03:35 I believe the deadline is Thursday before and Then we'll make sure and answer them on air. here.
10:03:41 Just a couple of questions today, particularly around treatment. So just a good time to dig into a little bit of what treatment looks like.
10:03:50 So if you test positive for Covid 19, including on a home antigen test, if you were high risk for severe disease, which means, if you are over 65, or if you have any underlying
conditions, regardless of your
10:04:00 vaccination status. You are eligible for treatment.
10:04:03 For Covid 19, and we do recommend accessing that treatment.
10:04:07 If you are others, well have no underlying conditions and you're under 65.
10:04:12 We don't generally treat for covid 19 at this point but the treatments are available for everybody over 65.
10:04:20 Everybody who's high risk for severe disease the most common treatment that you'll see is paxlovid which is an oral medication.
10:04:27 It's a 5 day course of medication you have to start that within 5 days of your symptom onset in order for it to be effective, and sooner is better than later.
10:04:36 So That's why, it's so so important to get tested sooner rather than later, and then to start your medications in Jefferson County.
10:04:43 The way to do that is to contact the jefferson healthcare covid hotline, the the covid nurse hotline, and they'll help you through the process of getting that prescription.
10:04:53 The medication does have some country indications, because it does have something.
10:05:00 Interactions with some medications. So you'll need to do kind of a telehealth visit with them to figure out whether or not it's a good medication for you if it's not generally
the next thing that we recommend is an
10:05:08 Iv monochromeal antibody which is called Beb Tilover map, and you have to get that within 7 days of symptom onset.
10:05:16 We do have both of those here. One of the folks who wrote in said that they had a friend who tested positive and was told that at that time we didn't have any medication.
10:05:26 Any of the packslovid medication in Jefferson County proper, and that they were gonna have to drive to Squim to get some.
10:05:33 We do generally have the medication here, but we've been using a lot of it lately, because so many of us are over 65, and we've had high case rates and so intermittently.
10:05:42 We have seen it run out at our pharmacies, and then your nearest option is going to be in Squim.
10:05:47 I know they have it safe way, right it and Walmart and so your provider can send it over there.
10:05:54 We are going to work to get some back in house in Jefferson County, but we've just been using a lot of it.
10:06:00 And so we need our pharmacies to order a little bit more, and we'll be working on that this week.
10:06:04 So you may experience, depending on when you call in, that you may have to go to swim to get your medications.
10:06:09 I apologize for that. Just a challenge of getting enough medication to Jefferson County from the State at the moment.
10:06:15 But we're going to be working. on that this week we do have monoclonal antibodies in Jefferson County at Jefferson healthcare.
10:06:23 But that's an iv medication. so It's a little bit more complex to administer.
10:06:26 But the Jefferson healthcare folks can help you through it.
10:06:29 I do wanna acknowledge that that is a big workload for our Jefferson healthcare folks.
10:06:35 We are not seeing a hospitalization search, but we are seeing a big surgeon demand for their primary care.
10:06:41 Clinics, particularly around covid treatment so you may experience when you call them their top line that you have to leave a message.
10:06:49 Know that that's because they are working with someone else who has covid right now.
10:06:53 But they will get to you and they're moving as fast as they can so do leave a message Leave a detailed message, and they'll get back to you as soon as possible.
10:07:00 Don't hang up and call back cause that makes the kind of throws a wrench in the system, so just leave a message.
10:07:07 They will call you back as soon as They Possibly can we're also going to be working this week on getting them some support from the State to try to help offload that workload,
because it is a it's a big lift for them right?
10:07:17 Now we do want you get treated, though if you have high risk conditions.
10:07:21 We'll make sure that you get access to that this next question was about.
10:07:25 If there's any evidence that receiving treatment for covid with the medication tax, lovid could reduce one's risk of getting long.
10:07:34 Covid, I would say. studies are ongoing for that right now.
10:07:36 We know that getting treated reduces your risk of severe disease.
10:07:40 We also know that, having severe disease increases your risk of long Covid, so it would make sense for getting treatment to reduce your risk of long covid.
10:07:50 But we just don't have the data in yet. to know that. but that's those studies are ongoing at this point.
10:07:56 We do have some case reports of people who actually had Long Covid, who started treatment for Paxlovan, saying their symptoms improved after they started treatment.
10:08:04 So there's some interesting data starting to come in to about long Covid, and how we could reduce its risk?
10:08:13 But the most important thing is if your high risk get treated cause you're less likely to get severe disease, and I suspect we'll find out that it decreases your risk of long
Covid as well but we just haven't
10:08:22 seen that. So with that that's all of the questions I got from Kptz?
10:08:29 Did that spur any other questions from our Commissioner? Okay. great.
10:08:34 Any other questions. Nope. Thank you, really. Do you have any updates for us this week?
10:08:40 No no updates from me this week. I guess the only thing would be that we i'm gonna conducting our response after action, and we have just 2 days left in the first phase of that
which is a survey We've sent around
10:08:53 to all of our partners involved in the response. So
10:08:58 Just a little bit under 48Â h to complete that survey to our partners.
10:09:02 If you haven't already. then we'll be moving to the next phase, where we have some more focused conversations around individual response areas.
10:09:11 So. that's really it for me we are our little concerned about the fact that we're conducting an after action. survey.
10:09:20 Well case counts continue to rise. but I think that the great work that public health is done, the great work that everything healthcare has done, making it kind of a core part
of their mission now being able to handle these surges and handle the you
10:09:32 know needs from the so the kudos to them we're gonna continue on with our after action review since the emergency operations person hasn't spun back up quite yet.
10:09:45 But we do remain global to help out on if and when needed.
10:09:51 Otherwise we're gonna the next base here in a couple of days, and i'll be back once that's complete to
10:09:55 Talk about our improvement plan. Thank you, Willie. Actually, can I ask one more question?
10:10:02 Yeah, just for Dr. Barry. a quick clarification about the indoor spaces and the recommendations.
10:10:08 I know we're not probably going to mandates anytime soon, certainly not until hospitalizations death increase.
10:10:13 But but today you weren't really talking indoors spaces in indoor masking and public spaces, you really talked about masking and indoor spaces. so would you talk about even
in you know private groups, if you're if you're
10:10:27 gathering in a group. Is there a size that you think that it it becomes starts becoming wise to?
10:10:34 Put mass on. Could you just drill into that a little bit more?
10:10:36 What your recommendation is. Yeah, no, thank you for that clarifying question.
10:10:41 So I do recommend masking in indoor spaces the virus doesn't care whether it's a public space or not.
10:10:48 But it's anytime you have a large group and so basically I would say 10 or up is kind of my cutoff for that.
10:10:54 If you have 10 or more people in an indoor space I would recommend wearing a mask in that space, and certainly, if you're in an indoor space, with people you don't know.
10:11:03 So that's where the public part comes in if you're in indoor space with folks You don't know you don't know their vaccination status You don't even know if they might come if
they had
10:11:09 a little bit of symptoms that's a space where it's a really good idea to wear a mask.
10:11:14 But if you're in a private setting, I think a small dinner party is reasonable.
10:11:20 But if you're gonna start having an indoor party with 10 or more people regardless of their vaccination status, I would recommend wearing a mask in a setting like that that's
kind of a rough cutoff that
10:11:30 I use the only other kind of factory to consider. There is the risks of the people involved.
10:11:36 So if I were visiting you know 92 year old, Grandmother, i'd wear a mask if I went to see her, even if it was just the 2 of us unless I had tested before I came and So
10:11:48 that's another good time where you could use an antigen test.
10:11:52 If you're visiting a very high risk family member I would. and you want to take a mask off. You want to have lunch or tea, then go ahead and take a test before you go in.
10:12:01 There. Then you know that you're not gonna get anybody infected. Similarly, if I were visiting a long-term care facility right now, I would certainly wear a mask.
10:12:09 When I did that if I were visiting a family member where I wanted to take off my mask because we were going to share a meal. For example, I would test before I went into a long
term care facility.
10:12:21 We have started to see long term care facilities affected lately.
10:12:24 So far the clusters are relatively small and one of the most common ways.
10:12:29 It's coming in right now is visitors because before it was staff.
10:12:34 Now that we're having visitation again, the most common way we're seeing it come in and visitors.
10:12:38 So if you're visiting a high risk family member in a high risk space definitely, be sure you keep that high quality mask on, or if you're gonna be taking it off test before
you go and certainly don't go if
10:12:48 you've had any symptoms or a recent exposure. thank you, and then we're just one quick follow up.
10:12:55 What if you're in a room, with that's public but only has less than 10% of the capacity filled like we are right now with no members of the public and only people that we work
with on a regular basis i'm happy
10:13:10 to keep my mask on. But should I? should I? sure?
10:13:13 I think there's a lot of things to weigh and it's it's hard to pick apart all the scenarios, but i'd say if you're indoors with folks and especially if you don't
10:13:23 know the vaccination status of the folks There or if you have unb vaccinated folks in that room.
10:13:29 That'd be another reason to consider masking in those settings and I think, especially as public officials.
10:13:37 I think it's also just so important to demonstrate mask wearing because people really do look to us about whether or not they should wear a mask.
10:13:45 And I think particularly at this moment, there's a lot of confusion about what you should do.
10:13:48 And so, being clear about that now is a good time to wear a mask.
10:13:52 I think modeling is also a good reason to mask in those setting great.
10:13:56 Thank you. Thank you. Okay, But i'm still gonna wear my shark mask totally fine.
10:14:03 And I think that's another place where you could factor that in if it's a smaller group you might be able to wear a stylish non k and 95 mask for example in those kind of settings
But if you're in
10:14:16 a crowded space with a lot of people you don't know i'd scale up the quality of that map.
10:14:21 Thank you, Dr. Barry. Thank you. Any other questions for Dr.
10:14:28 Barrier, Willie, before we end our covid update for this week.
10:14:32 Thank you guys appreciate. you Okay, so it's 1014 to be 15, I think.
10:14:47 And we have briefing next on our agenda.
10:14:53 Do we want to do some briefing? Sure. Who wants to start this week, Mark?
10:15:00 Do you wanna start it this week? All right. My mine will be relatively brief.
10:15:08 We had a number of cancellations last week. so course on Monday with the Board all day tuesday Finance Committee meeting.
10:15:19 We're intrepid treasury ran us through investments and debt.
10:15:27 Wednesday we had Budget Committee meeting.
10:15:33 Yeah. on Tuesday we we scrubbed the at meeting, cause John Morrow was unavailable.
10:15:40 Later. on Wednesday we had the housing fund board meeting and I I guess, Greg, you're gonna have a special meeting coming up. I'm focusing on 50 90 and I did share that revenue
and expense numbers with
10:15:53 you. Thank you. Thursday was light met with Highid and we went over the workshop list, and and i'm gonna have an update for the board here pretty quickly.
10:16:05 I got suggested days from Brent on a variety of housing topics, and then I just need to hear from Willie, and then i'll we'll actually get some things scheduled and i'll share
the
10:16:16 worksheet with with the board and covid coordination was cancelled on on Friday, just like policy management group, because there weren't too many subjects to discuss
10:16:33 And then I sat in on the the Youtube Channel video for Fort Warden and the the joint and a climate effort between Japan and this country that will involve a 100 interns or so
all housed at fort ward and
10:16:50 focused on climate. I I think that's just a tremendous initiative that I I think will infuse some financial health into that into the Pda.
10:17:00 So that was my week
10:17:06 Frank, Kate. Oh, I I can finish So I already talked a lot about swack.
10:17:11 Sorry I went a little long. One other thing I want to point out is that the numbers on recyclable items are not really the issue anymore for plastics. so what it's not ones
or twos or threes or for it's really
10:17:24 bottles and jugs opening smaller than the base. So I keep telling my husband and yeah, so we But you know they're still gonna send the stuff they get in is just what is the
rate that they get how effective is
10:17:38 that. So it's it's kind of we gotta look at it at a commodity level.
10:17:41 Fairly like week last week, though. we had budget committee, and I had a question on that, where if it's not av capture, where can people go back and and review public meetings?
10:17:53 The question for Caroline, I guess at av capture. but like budget is not how you capture it's going to be different, I think, for every committee.
10:18:06 Yeah. So for our housing fund board our our board of help that's on av capture. with the other meetings.
10:18:12 You know they're not required to do video meetings and minutes?
10:18:17 Are the official records. Not every community will have video or audio options.
10:18:23 So it's not recorded and most of the zoom meetings are just Aren't recorded as a practice.
10:18:30 It's again depends on I I always record and I when I coach other people.
10:18:36 I have then report, but I tell them it's not required but it is convenient right?
10:18:42 Just so. the Board knows opma, I think. June ninth.
10:18:47 Some changes to the opma are going to become effective.
10:18:51 And Mr. Tom Tears should send in a couple of very detailed emails on that subject, and i'm working with Mr. hunsucker, and we're going to make a presentation to the board on
those changes just to make sure that
10:19:04 we're we're in compliance i'm working on a document for guidance on all the works for how they run their meetings, and i'll be working with them to incorporate those new changes
into those
10:19:16 guys great Thank you. let's see big meeting was the Housing Fund Board meeting our first fully formed housing funds board meeting.
10:19:31 Kate was there as well. We had a presentation from only cap about the cosm of Brown village, and and the need for funding.
10:19:41 We didn't make an official ask, since I really did not provide enough information to feel like we were justified in making that ask
10:19:49 But it was really productive. We said a special meeting for this Friday at 2 30 to consider that.
10:19:55 And We also set our committees and and populated them with with 3 members of the each, each of the committees with, or task forces, with with 3 members from the Housing Fund
Board.
10:20:07 I thought it was really productive we're going to use the same kind of application, basically, and and request I think, for all of the committees to members of the public as
well.
10:20:18 So once those applications get out we'll we'll distribute them as widely as we can.
10:20:24 I will say that after the Housing Fund Board meeting, I reached out to all of our housing providers to see if anyone else had any projects that would qualify for 50 90 that
were on the ground now and only one
10:20:38 1 One organization did so. Bayside will make a presentation at our Housing Fund Board meeting as well about a project they're working on.
10:20:46 They could use $1590 right right now. let's see met with virtually with Bonnie Hillary about the the letter for the Spencer mail.
10:20:58 Formerly the Allen Mill on the West End, and their their grant application, and it would very well had a good conversation.
10:21:07 And we do have a letter on our our agenda later.
10:21:10 Today. Now I can dive into that a little bit more.
10:21:15 And then on Friday had, as has been mentioned, a nice walk through the the penny wise unit, 7 with Catherine Copis and and marrying Ryan and others.
10:21:28 Delightful day I did take my drone some of those and so I can measure how tall trees were, and managed to get up through the canopy and back down without destroying it.
10:21:36 And some of the trees were, you know, over a 100 feet tall.
10:21:40 Or whatever that's worth. But that was a great way to spend Friday, and then spend a lot of time working on housing fun board stuff to get both the get going on the 50 90 request
and also on the house America
10:21:57 which we'll look at a little bit later. as well today. So a couple of things on the agenda from those meetings, and then I was in penny wise too long, and I didn't make it up
to the new
10:22:07 Jefferson County sheriff, deputies swearing and but missed that on Friday afternoon, and that was my week.
10:22:16 Great Kate, do you Wanna do a look back? Sure. Yeah.
10:22:22 Busy week last week. let's see spend a fair amount of time with department of community development on a number of projects.
10:22:32 One is which we are considering getting an and and Brenton are able to outside outline some projects that we might be able to use an intern for so more on that soon we'll be
meeting with her hopefully in the next week or
10:22:44 so to discuss have been powered teams coalition meeting. and that that was interesting.
10:22:53 I'm not sure if each of you have seen this research and you're empowered teams coalition meetings, but the we're talking about the the benefit of of universal interventions
for team substance use
10:23:06 prevention versus really targeted and it was pretty compelling coming out of the University of Washington.
10:23:12 And just to see see the benefit of reaching entire populations of youth versus just targeting those that are considered at risk.
10:23:21 Wednesday spent much of the day preparing for the visit we had on Thursday.
10:23:28 The Usda see that way too late making a powerpoint presentation, but it's good to kind of up update and refresh the data.
10:23:37 We have around economic conditions. here in the county and Oh, my share those with you at some point.
10:23:45 If you're interested. we did have budget committee meeting on Wednesday morning, and be you know I think it's really tricky to try to read the tea leaves right now what what
the economy is doing and how we should
10:23:56 be thinking about planning, for vegetating in the future of the county, and just pretty much every day.
10:24:04 Last week. the Academy seem to be setting the current message.
10:24:07 So uncertain time for sure agree has a fun.
10:24:12 Board was productive, and look forward to continuing the conversation.
10:24:16 On the 1590 funds on Friday. So Thursday spent the whole day with the State director of Usda Role development, and 2 of her staff.
10:24:27 She bought buffer program director for community facilities program, and also her housing director for the State.
10:24:35 And we looked at and talked about probably 12 different projects. many more.
10:24:41 If you consider, for example, a Qv. did a presentation on the work that they've been doing, is that it falls under the rural utility service.
10:24:49 Part of usda and and got a lot of great feedback on kind of which which projects that we're thinking about county wide, and not just within accounting government, but our partner
organizations to what is you know
10:25:04 compelling to usda what's calls within their priorities more likely to get funded.
10:25:09 So i'll work on kind of collecting that information and It should inform the the discussion that we have leading up to the Icg.
10:25:20 Meeting, and then also at the Icg meeting. But was that great day?
10:25:23 I think all of the partners. so objection healthcare the city, the number of our own departments.
10:25:31 Pd wse wasn't able to attend after all a habitat for humanity.
10:25:37 Everybody seems to appreciate the opportunity to meet Stranger Price Johnson.
10:25:43 Was really gratifying I I have done you know it doesn't of these visits, probably over the years with different funders, and so nice having somebody who comes from county government
and she just gets it, you know it's like you
10:25:56 don't have to explain gm may she understands the challenges of of infrastructure, and so I feel like they really appreciate all the work that we're doing.
10:26:08 They were impressed that we have so many projects up and going, and are really trying to be savvy and position ourselves for funding.
10:26:15 So a lot of time and effort from many people. and I think it was well worth it.
10:26:22 And hopefully will result in some more funding opportunities.
10:26:28 Mostly had to recover from that a friday. but did have lunch with Mayor dexter from Los Angeles, and good to hear what's going on there.
10:26:38 Many similar challenges, and then to attend the event that Mark mentioned with Fort Warden and a large academic and political consortium that is, hoping to have a pretty large
footprint at Fort warden But
10:26:54 uncertainty as to how exactly that will unfold. But cool to see a little old Jefferson County beyond the map, that the Japanese ambassadors house and Manhattan.
10:27:05 So yeah making an impression. so that's it i'm in San Diego at the National Planners conference, although I am not attending.
10:27:17 But it's nice to be here with brent butler and great to to see inspiration and ideas floating around, and look forward to what he brings back from this event.
10:27:29 Awesome and thanks for all your work with Usda.
10:27:33 Last week I appreciated being able to sit in on one session and meet
10:27:37 How i'm in person. price johnson have the new director. So I too, feel like we're we're really lucky to have someone like her in that role.
10:27:47 Especially from where we sit and county government. so but I know it was a lot of work on your partner.
10:27:53 I appreciate that, Kate. Thanks for who jumping in the new more last week.
10:28:03 Let's see, I can do mine I attended find the Finance Committee meeting in the Budget Committee meeting, and then, grateful for all of our leaders on those on the Finance front
in Jefferson, County both
10:28:21 treasurer, praeta, and our finance manager, Judy Shepherd.
10:28:28 I just really appreciate their knowledge and ability to answer almost any question, not only with good anecdotal historic references, but also with data.
10:28:39 So super grateful for our team on that front, and enjoy being part of those conversations.
10:28:47 Have been doing a lot of work in preparation for May sixteenth.
10:28:53 Timber, denr timber workshop focused on our and response the letter we sent to Dnr about the Beaver Valley sorts, timber sale that came up last month, and also again great for
treasure
10:29:08 praeta for helping me collect and understand years worth of data on junior taxing district revenues.
10:29:16 And I think we have good information that shines a light on exactly exactly how much has gone to, exactly where over the last 5 years.
10:29:27 And then also what the potential impact of fever value source would be on the taxing district.
10:29:30 But in addition to that we're we're building out a team that will be part of that workshop that can talk about carbon sequences, carbon sequestration, and also selective harvest
i'm working
10:29:46 with Mallory on some scenarios around selective harvest.
10:29:50 If we were to do timber a different way, or timber harvest a different way.
10:29:54 Then have been done in the past. How can that benefit?
10:29:58 The economy of junior taxing districts in Jefferson County over time.
10:30:03 So a lot of a big deep dive right now but it's feels feels like i've got my hands and head around it.
10:30:12 Also have a meeting with a number of conservationists around the trustland transfer work.
10:30:21 Group. process that we've been in for the last almost a year now, and we're we're coming through the phase.
10:30:28 2 of the work group. Well, and we've had a kind of a a car full of conservation is riding along, auditing all of our meetings, asking good questions.
10:30:38 So. I feel like that's been a productive collaboration there.
10:30:43 I mentioned earlier the tree planting in iron dale at Price Street, with Nos last Thursday, and was great to get out and get some trees in the ground where the timber stuff's
been happening.
10:30:57 I mean. but you see these big big trees. down stolen trees, and then we're putting in these tiny cedars, and we're like, Go little cedar.
10:31:07 Go, but great to do the work great to get out and be on the ground.
10:31:14 We took trees down and brought bags and bags of garbage out.
10:31:18 People just dump garbage over the bank there. so
10:31:24 I know that Mike Dawson with environmental public health. Clean water is working on removing a trailer and some vehicles and a shed that are sitting in the right of way the
county right of way.
10:31:38 And have been for I don't know how long so we're just trying to get back to a clean slate there.
10:31:43 But it's it's gonna take some time and doing for sure attended the coordinated community response quarterly meeting in that group is made up of navigators and prosecutors office
and kind of people on
10:32:03 the front lines of helping with mental health. issues. and behavioral health issues in the county, both from the legal side and also from the healthcare side, and it's a it's
a good collaborative group.
10:32:24 It's an interesting intersection, and I appreciate the conversations that happen there.
10:32:30 Steve Steven, our new navigator, relatively new navigator, the sheriff's office was able to meet for the first time, and as part of that group, and really appreciate hearing
the work that he's doing
10:32:44 bringing a different set of skills to the sheriff's office, and as he becomes more part of the team, there, I'm hearing him talk about you know them becoming more comfortable,
relying on his skills and deploying them in
10:32:58 situations where where they're the best best tool in the toolbox. and that's that's kind of the dream of the navigator program.
10:33:05 So it's great to see it the river meeting the road with that in the county
10:33:14 And then I had my Dnr Trust land transfer work group meeting on Friday for a few hours with the phase 2 work group, and we were at this At this session.
10:33:29 We were talking about the prioritization process for future trustland transfer projects, and it's always interesting when you you know.
10:33:39 Say this is the topic we're gonna talk about this week but the the way the conversation on folds and so it's it's through the lens of prioritization that we can unpack kind
of the types of
10:33:50 criteria that we want all trust line transfer projects to be looked at in the future and just to remind folks trust land transfer is a project that, or a program that's used
by the department of natural resources to get
10:34:10 underperforming underperforming assets out of the trust base so they can be underperforming because they're Alpine.
10:34:19 They're rocky rocky ridges outside I think Mount Sighs a good example over in King County of a early trustland transfer project that was largely alpine and not much timber up
in those higher
10:34:34 elevations, and then also underperforming, can be regulatory.
10:34:42 Regular regulatory constraints on the piece of property so it could be shoreline shoreline habitat.
10:34:47 That's I I think debbie here in Jefferson County is a great example where we've protected dozens and dozens and dozens of acres of shoreline that wouldn't be
10:34:57 harvestable because it's steep and on the on the shore, and there's state regulations restricting harvest in those areas.
10:35:07 So there's all kinds of variables that can make an asset a Dnr trust asset underperforming, but it's anything from the physical geography to regulatory considerations and so
it's interesting
10:35:21 to look at things like the prioritization criteria, and have conversations about all of those kind of external factors that are considered when considering one of these projects.
10:35:35 The work group's gonna be working through another few meetings through June, I think.
10:35:42 And then in the summer we're, hoping to put together our pilot of projects that will test the new program that we've redesigned over the last year.
10:35:51 So it's pretty exciting I can kind of see the light at the end of the tunnel.
10:35:55 But you know a lot of work ahead. too and lastly my sheriff's apple orchard orchard moving project has hit some speed bumps so i'm hopeful that we'll pull out a solution at
the
10:36:11 last minute. but some of the resources we thought might come to bear have not.
10:36:19 And so we're There's a farmer in beaver Valley, named Steve Dowdell, who I've become friends with, and who is willing to be the home farm for this these these trees that soon
to be
10:36:30 orphaned, and we just need an i'm gonna say this out loud on a on a commission meeting.
10:36:34 We need a couple of excavators. I got a dump trailer donated for use last week, but if anyone has a line on a couple of excavators we would appreciate it.
10:36:44 And There are 11 apple and pair trees that are about 50 years old at the sheriff's office that need to be moved before the sheriff.
10:36:54 Builds a covered area for their votes, which is a good thing to do to take care of the boats, but we just the interest in moving those trees.
10:37:06 So anyone's out there with an excavator listening, give me a call my county cell phone, 3 6 o 3 o 1 0, 0, 6, one.
10:37:17 And and that that was my last week. yeah.
10:37:23 So it's 10. There it is 37 Do we want to look ahead.
10:37:30 What do we want to do next? Team. We have a kind of a light, lightish agenda this morning, so we will likely end early this morning.
10:37:40 So we could look ahead for the week and then break until I know that a couple of us at least, will be on the wasack meeting at noon.
10:37:50 But we can break until 1 30 and we have a few items this afternoon. but it's probably going to be a short afternoon as well, which is great, cause I have a huge long list of
things so do you guys, it it would be
10:38:05 helpful if we could look ahead because I I realize that i'm not gonna be here next Monday.
10:38:13 So just always good to kind of outline if there's anything we need to do today, since we won't have a full board present next week.
10:38:21 But course you can do lots of business, just the 2 of you.
10:38:24 But I will be in meetings in Dc. and not able to even joined virtually.
10:38:30 Okay, Well, Mark, do you wanna start with looking forward at your calendar mark?
10:38:37 Oh, sorry email flash alright tomorrow senior management team meeting with my leaders and risk management at 1030 and 18 and 2, and then behavioral health advisory board meeting
in the afternoon.
10:38:57 And there's a topic of interest there and that has to do with the therapeutic courts.
10:38:59 And related funding so that'll be an interesting meeting
10:39:09 On Wednesday i'm gonna meet with judy Shepherd.
10:39:14 Similar to when the first arbor report was due.
10:39:20 My account was temporarily suspended for 2 weeks so I was not able to log in to submit the report.
10:39:28 But there's a grace period so no negative consequences for that.
10:39:32 But we'll get that report submitted on wednesday
10:39:39 Jocom, 901 special board meeting this week.
10:39:43 On Thursday they had to cancel a meeting last week because they didn't have the agenda posted.
10:39:48 That was unfortunate. but we'll recover on Thursday agenda, planning with Heidi on Thursday.
10:39:58 And then the houseing fun board on Friday afternoon.
10:40:02 Hopefully, 50 90 funds will come up with a some sort of coherent approach to using those funds.
10:40:11 Specifically, I guess, Greg, as it relates to casual Brown, and the immediate question is, we want to come up with a process as well.
10:40:18 So both are you equally important. And And besides, behind the scenes of November work that's my week.
10:40:30 Great Kate. do you want to go? since? Sure. Yeah.
10:40:41 So fairly standard week this week. let's see if a few calls tomorrow, but nothing too significant from that.
10:40:50 Then let's see planning for the legislative steering committee. retreat, which is next week.
10:40:57 I'll be got half a week at the legislative steering committee retreats where we start laying out an agenda for the next legislative session.
10:41:04 So so fair amount planning for that. also the Transit Advisory group meeting tomorrow.
10:41:12 I plan to attend the food co-op, fiftieth anniversary birthday party, which I imagine one or 2 of you might also be attending and just be celebrating, not discussing any county
business.
10:41:25 Let's see Thursday morning have a Edc. board meeting Economic Council a monthly check in with our lobbyist in Dc.
10:41:38 Generally talking about sewer funding, but great resource for all.
10:41:44 Infrastructure package funding so It's good timing as we plan the Icg meeting.
10:41:52 Let's see you gonna meet with John morrow and so yeah, go ahead.
10:41:56 Did you happen to see the spreadsheet I shared earlier this morning? Thank you.
10:42:01 Yep: Yeah, for our discussion this afternoon. Yeah. yeah thank you I'm gonna meet with John Morrow.
10:42:11 And someone from the Pba on Thursday afternoon.
10:42:15 Friday. let's see I am doing the chamber cafe on climate change, which Greg I I hope you got word I
10:42:25 So talking about what the county is thinking about in terms of climate change.
10:42:30 And the business community should know about our our efforts.
10:42:34 There. see, you have special meeting for the housing fund Board.
10:42:41 Oh! and also another meeting on Fort Warden.
10:42:44 On Friday midday. I think that is that's my week, and then the following week, i've gone the whole week.
10:42:55 The first 3 days, the week in Dc. and then back fly back early on Thursday morning to attend to Thursday, Friday, Lsc.
10:43:07 Retreat, so I probably won't be in the office at all that week which is unusual.
10:43:12 That will be available by phone or email and but not in attendance on Monday.
10:43:22 Well, I didn't know that was an option now I know Occasionally there are conflicting things that we can't can't overcome, and this is this: is one of them it's a trembling in
in
10:43:36 with the Puget Sound partnership. a very small delegation going to the computer some day on the hill.
10:43:42 Meeting with the entire Congressional delegation of Washington State, and also all the Federal agencies that fund that work and
10:43:52 It's a really great opportunity. i'm i'm honored that the partnership asks me to attend, and it's really valuable to have local government county government in particular at
the table for those discussions so it's
10:44:07 so. I I, you know, generally do everything I can to avoid missing a Monday meeting.
10:44:12 But was just to important an opportunity to pass up yeah no it's awesome.
10:44:20 My week is jam packed let's see so i'm meeting with the Shalan County Commission way.
10:44:31 So Ashland County Commissioner tomorrow, and the housing solutions network to learn about the short-term rental ordinance that they put in place recently.
10:44:42 Housing solutions. networks had a lot of interest in that strategy, and it's something that I've you know, knew that Shellan was doing.
10:44:51 And I think that also now Island or San Juan County, is also done.
10:44:54 So meeting with with Commissioner Boogert from Shalan County to learn more about that.
10:45:01 I'm gonna attend the farewell party for our transit leaders tomorrow.
10:45:07 And then yes, there's a behavioral health advisory committee meeting tomorrow, where we are considering some supplemental funding that came into the committee through the tax
1 10 to 1% tax and a an additional request we've gotten from
10:45:26 therapeutic courts which based on the briefing that we had earlier.
10:45:32 It makes a lot of sense that we can consider funding this work so we'll be talking about that tomorrow.
10:45:39 I might be able to attend a habitat if He's Jefferson County Board meeting regarding the Mason Street project tomorrow afternoon.
10:45:47 If I can break away from behavioral health advisory committee and time.
10:45:51 So billing that's feeling a little juggling Then in the evening tomorrow, the Marine Jefferson County Marine Resources Committee meeting their monthly meeting.
10:46:04 Doing it a lot more. prep. work for the May sixteenth workshop on Beaver Valley source and dnr timber sales.
10:46:15 Working with both Mallory and Catherine on, and Mary Jean on timber harvest.
10:46:26 Alternatives, and also a carbon potential carbon market. alternatives are raising revenue for County junior taxing districts.
10:46:38 But that that feels like you know it's it's a brave new world, and i'm happy to be marching into it.
10:46:46 But it's i'm also i've just got connected to a a leader in the carbon market.
10:46:52 Kind of the the emerging carbon markets and i'm going to speak with him.
10:46:56 This week about his ideas. He just received a big grant to do a bunch of on the ground carbon work, and he developed something called the Carbon Land Trust, and he lives in
Toledo, Washington.
10:47:12 So, anyway, looking forward to having a conversation with him about his project and how he sees mobilizing resources to local communities from sale of carbon offset.
10:47:28 And let's see transit finance committee as vice Chair of the Transit Board.
10:47:30 I attend the finance committee meeting. so always look forward to meeting with Sarah, who I think this might be her last meeting as our finance lead.
10:47:42 So. I also have the co-op fiftieth celebration on my calendar.
10:47:49 I've been a member with my family since I was 10 years old.
10:47:52 So 40 years. So most of the co-op's life and look forward to celebrating with my fellow members.
10:47:57 My mom has a very low number, but not in the double or single or double digits.
10:48:03 I was gonna ask what your number is. My number is not not notable, but hers is so.
10:48:12 And then I being chair of the boredom on the pre-cvassing board regarding the recent photo on the quilting school bond, which I was disappointed to see failed appears to have
10:48:25 failed pretty pretty significantly, more significantly than last time.
10:48:30 So we'll be doing our precamacy board meeting, and then
10:48:37 Later that day the Jefferson County cohort of the Olympic discovery trail meets and I've been attending those meetings as opposed to the full ot board meetings because I feel
like they're
10:48:48 more German to our geography. on Friday we have our first in my time as a commissioner.
10:48:56 Straight Ern Quarterly meeting at the Red Cedar Hall on the Jamestown.
10:49:03 Tribes, land and I I have like 3 meetings that are happening overlapping with that.
10:49:10 So i'm trying to figure out how i'm gonna attend that meeting, because one thing I have to do is get back and certify that unfortunate school bond vote at one o'clock.
10:49:25 So. I think i'm just gonna leave the straight ear in meeting early.
10:49:30 So that's my week. but it just feels really juggling, and like i'll just be moving around all week.
10:49:41 Yeah, it's interesting we we could like multitask more being all virtual and going back in person makes it a little harder with travel time and stuff.
10:49:51 So i'm and i'm trying to figure that out my schedule these days, too.
10:49:55 Yeah. and I promised tamales for the first in-person straight err in meeting.
10:49:59 So I also have to make t Molly and then there to cook the tamales.
10:50:04 So. anyway. It's. but that's that's a first World problem for sure, it's a high bar.
10:50:11 I bar your setting Commissioner I'm ha well it's it's something that John Campbell and I were talking about when he was still the coordin I'm holding true to it because I mentioned
it out loud at
10:50:21 a couple of straight the year in meetings, so hoping John will make an appearance for this.
10:50:27 But that's that's what I know that's happening this week.
10:50:32 I'm sure there'll be a bunch of stuff that gets added, because it seems to be the theme
10:50:39 Is there anything that any of us have said or heard that we need to coordinate on, or anything that anyone needs coverage, for in the next I haven't gone yet.
10:50:50 But I am happy to. yeah, I I can maybe help you a little bit.
10:50:55 Let let's see I would love to make tomorrow with you. but I I probably don't want to go to the straight year end meeting, but I probably I could do the canvassing for you.
10:51:05 If you want , you know it's i'm not happy with the the outcome, either.
10:51:09 But I do have time on Friday, I couldn't remember exactly what time the pre- canvassing meeting was pre-campusings at 1230 on Thursday, and then canvassing is one on
10:51:21 Friday,
10:51:32 So you can keep the tomorrow as well as making them right.
10:51:33 Well, I can say for the whole meeting that that'd be great, thanks Greg.
10:51:37 Happy to do that. tomorrow I am headed to Los Angeles to spend a little time at the Port Angels head.
10:51:44 Start and keep working on a video i'm making for holy cap kind of profiling some of our great staff there, and some of the programs people often don't know the the breadth of
the programs at olycap and on my way
10:51:55 back. i'll stop by the the jefferson transit farewell party before coming to the second quill scene.
10:52:02 Empowered teams Coalition naming work group.
10:52:04 The first one I missed, but it sounds like it was they would just like to add Brandon to the name, just to be reflective of the the both communities that that that coalition
serves ticking the the
10:52:18 consultant from the office of urban and farm worker housing Corby to to an in-person tour of casual brown Tuesday afternoon.
10:52:27 And then there's a meeting with dCD following that virtual meeting on Wednesday.
10:52:33 I will also be attending the fiftieth birthday celebration at the fair grounds, talking no work just celebrating the good work the co-op does on Thursday.
10:52:43 Oh, and something I I next time when the jeff con meeting was canceled because it wasn't noticed appropriately, I think the agenda wasn't publicized I took that opportunity
to go take a tour of jeff comm for the
10:52:55 first time looking through everything, the server room and all that stuff, and really understand kind of the capital needs.
10:53:01 As we get into capital plan. and Jeff con is definitely, you know, squeezing into spaces where they're kind of popping into different places, and and and really getting them
a little bit closer, would be great though as a former
10:53:13 it, Guy, I know sometimes it's a to double edged sword to be right next to the the the folks that you support but they're out in a leaky portable right Now then, but I have
the
10:53:26 Olympic Area Agency on aging at the same time.
10:53:29 So I will leave Jeff kong and mark's capable hands this Thursday the rescheduled special meeting, making up for that.
10:53:38 I will be at an in-person port level of village council meeting at the Beach Club on Thursday afternoon on Friday I have Jay Bat, and then the house American office hours or
monthly hours are Friday at 11
10:53:52 and I will plan on going to that. since we probably are going to sign up proclamation and really officially join that, so i'll try to join that I Guess Thursday.
10:54:03 I'll be doing pre-canvassing for Heidi and Friday I will do the canvassing. I'm.
10:54:08 A signature expert. So it's what am I favorite jobs, and then we have the special meeting of the Housing Fund Board.
10:54:17 And then on Saturday i'll be attending a memorial for her back.
10:54:21 Quilsting patriarch, who passed away recently.
10:54:25 And contributed a lot to the community, You know.
10:54:30 Marina down there is named after him, and and, you know, lifelong fire firefighter, volunteer firefighter, and fire Commissioner, and really contributed a lot to the communities
of of Quilst and Brennan So Go and
10:54:41 honor his service on on Saturday with the rest quilting, and that is that's my week feels like a flurry of activity for all of us.
10:54:55 Anything else Anyone wants to talk about the meeting coverage or any emerging thoughts.
10:55:03 All I need to have this cover to that cover. Nope.
10:55:05 Sounds like Greg got me covered that's awesome happy
10:55:13 I will let Quinn. Yeah, please, have her forward on the invites If there's nothing else now, we could break until 1 30.
10:55:23 Kate and I. Are you playing on to New York today? Nope.
10:55:28 So I think, Kate and I will be attending waossack at noon.
10:55:31 Yeah, it's the the director of ecology is joining us.
10:55:36 And then we will have a little break for lunch and be back together at 1 30.
10:55:44 Okay, recess us until 1, 30,
13:30:08 Okay, I have to click into that
13:30:27 Hey,
13:30:34 Good afternoon, everybody. We are gonna have re convene call back into order.
13:30:42 Our meeting May Second Meeting of the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners.
13:30:47 Myself and Commissioner Brothersen are here in the Chambers, with County Administrator Mark Macaulay, and clerk of the Board. Carolyn Galloway, and Commissioner Dean is joining
us
13:30:59 remotely from the sunny beach of Southern California.
13:31:04 Anyway. anyway. i'm not currently at the beach it's just that.
13:31:13 It's been raining here today, kate i'm imagining sunshine.
13:31:17 I'll be on the study beach this evening excellent
13:31:24 So we are gonna get back to our agenda and it looks like we're gonna have a fairly light agenda this afternoon.
13:31:35 Few letters to consider So I think greg your teed up for the first letter and second letter and then we're gonna add and then I have another letter I would like to walk on to
the agenda, after those
13:31:52 2 regarding the addition of 8 acres to the Deba Bay Natural area.
13:31:58 Preserve that I can share on the screen, and then we will get on.
13:32:01 Let her head and get out if we all are good with sending that that was requested by M.
13:32:07 The Department of National resources. and then we're gonna do some more work on our county infrastructure, and capital needs so great.
13:32:16 You want to start us off with the grant for partnership for climate smart commodities?
13:32:23 Yes, and I see there is a typo at the last sentence.
13:32:26 But missing a period and a 4 instead of an E.
13:32:30 So I did talk to Bonnie hillary from the the group that's helping the spencer mill, you know formally the our Spencer forest products that is reopening the allen Mill on the
west end south of
13:32:45 forks in Jefferson County, the and i'm I I think it's great, you know it's a usda grant that as Kate described last time, and they want to use the timber waste to to create
13:33:00 biochar I think there's some maybe some spy issues with the availability of the big biochar kilns that that capture you know the energy and all that.
13:33:11 So the timing of it will be still a question.
13:33:15 But I think it's I I love to see this kind of forward step from from temper.
13:33:23 Cut companies forestry companies looking to biochar so i'm satisfy that this would be a good grant application to support, you know.
13:33:35 Talking to this to Bonnie they don't usually work with for profit corporations.
13:33:41 But it's rare that that for profit corporations are making this sort of climate resilience steps.
13:33:48 So they were really excited to work with them it's gonna go to a
13:33:53 A lot of its a relationship with a black farmer's cooperative that's going to do the soil, testing and and the other things that are talked in here with the biochar and demonstrate
13:34:06 It's used for agriculture so really what Spencer will be doing is creating biochar with what would otherwise be burned or thrown away, or just
13:34:16 Not be used in a in a proactive way. So
13:34:20 I think we should sign the letter with those 2 typos in any others that I didn't see.
13:34:24 Well with those type was corrected, and I I also, I think I spoke with Bonnie first when she called about the idea of us.
13:34:33 Sending a letter support for this funding, and she was talking with me about the economic development, and I kind of wish this letter had at least another sense in it, talking
about the jobs, because she shared a fairly large estimate of the number of
13:34:48 jobs that would be created, and that would be a huge economic boon for the West End.
13:34:54 So I, Mike, suggests we put in, and rather than just, not only in the number of people that will be employed, but an estimated 150 people.
13:35:12 What this Grant is about I don't think right i'm happy to put it in there.
13:35:15 If you want. Well, since there's a couple of edits, anyway, I I worry a little bit that if there are metrics that they are reporting in their grant application.
13:35:26 If we vary from that, that it could represent some you know.
13:35:32 Kind of question as to what version and So did we get any confirmation from Bonn.
13:35:39 That talking point. Well, that was the number she told me when she originally called so. That was the number she used with me as well. but I don't know if that's in the Grant
or you know I not verified well it sounds like
13:35:52 that's consistently what they're going for you know Sometimes you have to demonstrate the you're gonna meet so many jobs, and so I would hate to to hold them.
13:36:00 You know, in a position of having to answer to a a different number than they might be or the language could be something like over a 100 family. family wage Jobs in the West
Western Peninsula, or West Jefferson County.
13:36:14 I mean that's feels like a sure so on the second paragraph, maybe
13:36:22 Just change the second sentence to include, Yeah. So not only in the number of people, it will be an employee at the sawmill, estimated it a 150
13:36:44 Is it 1 50, just a sawmill? or is that the whole?
13:36:47 I mean the whole spectrum of, because it says but through the employment of people through the creation and use of biochar right? So the the use of bioterror is not the the
like spencer forest products
13:37:01 isn't going to be doing much past selling the Biochar.
13:37:04 They have a market for the biochar already and that will add to economic development elsewhere.
13:37:09 But I didn't hear that number qualified so just the sawmill, I think, is the 150 number.
13:37:15 So it could be the end of that sentence. We believe the belle out of the Samo will assist in the economic economic development of our county through the creation of over a 100
family wage jobs. or something.
13:37:29 But we should put it before the creation use a biochar, because that's we don't have that number employed at the sawmill Not only the 150 people that will be employed at the
13:37:40 sawmill,
13:37:44 Sure, not only in the roughly 150 people.
13:37:48 How with that Yeah, give or take. Yep: that just feels important to me.
13:38:01 But super supportive of sending this letter me too i'm happy to make a motion to support excuse me to sign and send the letter as amended today.
13:38:15 I'll second all in favor bye setting that letter with edits to Julie.
13:38:24 Thank you. Okay. So the next item on our agenda is discussion and potential action regarding the proclamation to join house in America and a letter of support for that effort.
I think this is you again Greg this is me.
13:38:47 Again. I think we talked about this before and i'm not even I've sent a similar letter just myself, saying, Hey, i'll participate. but we unfortunately ran out of time at our
last housing fund board meeting to really figure
13:39:00 out how we're going to coordinate between the city and in the county.
13:39:05 But asylum is taking this the same letter and proclamation back to the
13:39:12 The city as well. and this is really it's about metrics and and demonstrating how the relief dollars that we've had are are going to helping folks exit homelessness and get
into permanent housing so the
13:39:25 43 units that I talk about. There are the seventh haven, but we also, of course, have have more.
13:39:34 These are just the only ones that we can quantify at this time, but we've got other projects causal brown village doesn't quite qualify since that's not permanent housing and
the base sides project at the port
13:39:49 headlock motel that we're going to learn more about at the at the the housing fund board special meeting on Friday We'll address some more.
13:39:58 I'm not sure how many are going to be helped exactly. I think every unit will be turned into permanent supportive housing.
13:40:03 So. This is a low ball number but it it gets us in the into the program, and it's really there's a spreadsheet that i'll be working on this week with other members of the housing
fund.
13:40:15 Board to flesh it out and then it's really about communication and quantification with hud sounds good
13:40:27 Any questions about this Kate
13:40:32 No no, it looks good to me well i'm i'm happy to make a motion that we sign and send this letter regarding the ha a Federal initiative known as House America to Honorable Marsha
fudge Secretary of the
13:40:52 housing, the department of housing and urban development.
13:40:57 I will second all in favor. I get to meet Secretary Fudge last year in Dc.
13:41:09 She's awesome we were sending a letter to her.
13:41:14 So, as part of this, there was a proclamation attached.
13:41:17 Do we want to adopt and read that proclamation?
13:41:23 Now. Okay, who wants to start i'll start where at Jefferson County is committed to ensuring that all residents have a safe and affordable place to live, and whereas homelessness
continues to impact hundreds of our residents
13:41:40 and a lack of housing remains a barrier to the health, safety, well-being, employment, and education of these individuals and families; and whereas more than 580,000 people
on a given night, were experiencing homelessness in America,
13:41:56 when the Covid 19 pandemic began and had to endure the Covid 19 pandemic without the safety and protection of a stable home, while the homelessness crisis has been further impacted
and or
13:42:07 exacerbated during and due to the Covid 19 pandemic.
13:42:12 And whereas the most effective approach to solving homelessness is the housing first approach which entails identifying and assisting households, experiencing homelessness to
obtain permanent housing quickly without treatment or so
13:42:24 variety preconditions, and with few to no, no barriers through housing, counseling, and navigation, assistance, tailored levels of rental, assistance and or wraparound supported
services as needed and
13:42:36 whereas the American Rescue Plan provides communities with significant new resources to address homeless homelessness, including 70,000 emergency housing abouters and 5 billion
in grants through the home investment partnerships program and 300 and
13:42:51 50 billion in State and local recovery. funds through the Department of Treasury.
13:42:58 And whereas How's America is a partnership between the United States Department of Housing and Urban development, Hud, the United States Interagency Council on homelessness
Us Ich States and communities to respond with urgency to address
13:43:12 the crisis of homelessness. and whereas through House America, Hud, Secretary Marsha L. Fudge calls on state and local leaders to set and achieve ambitious goals for rehousing
households, currently experiencing
13:43:24 homelessness, and developing new, supportive and affordable housing units, whereas Jefferson County is committed to working with Hud and us.
13:43:34 Ich to use American rescue, plan resources, and other other Federal State and local resources to make progress towards ending homelessness.
13:43:43 Now, therefore, the Jefferson County Board of County Commissioners do hereby announce and proclaim to all citizens, that, as of May, the sixth, 2022, Jefferson County proudly
joints House America and
13:43:55 pledges to respond with urgency to homelessness in our community by setting and achieving ambitious rehousing and housing creations, will reclaim.
13:44:03 The second day of May, 2,022
13:44:08 I will move to adapt to the proclamation as Red, i'll second all in favor bye bye. Okay,
13:44:22 So the next item is the letter that I would like to walk onto the agenda.
13:44:29 I can share it. let's, see and this request let's see came from See here, we go share this letter came from the Department of Natural Resources for this request. so as described
in this letter the natural areas program which is a program within
13:45:07 Dnr. is applying for an rco grant to add to the existing Deba Bay natural area preserve.
13:45:16 That's the natural It's the preserved portion of the natural resource conservation area which is referred to all together as the natural area around David Bay.
13:45:27 And as you can see this is an exciting acquisition, because it adds 809 feet of naturally functioning shore, not shoreline, which also includes 662 feet of streams to the
13:45:41 natural area. So It's a it's a high value habitat area. and i'll give you just give you a chance to read it. Heidi, where are these parcels and who are they owned by i'm sorry
I
13:46:00 don't find the map
13:46:36 In here,
13:46:50 Sorry I'm not the tech wizard of the family here, but getting there
13:47:10 That might not be the best share
13:47:23 So can you see that where the orange dots are Oh, one that's that Sorry it's not bigger.
13:47:33 They're private landowners? but obviously they're they're willing sellers. and can you see where those can you see where those are?
13:47:45 Right on the shoreline
13:47:53 And they're relatively small acquisitions of totaling 8 acres within the existing natural area.
13:48:07 Preserved boundary,
13:48:08 Is that southern white zoom Dan I'm not sure.
13:48:14 Behind a person is that say, broad spit so it's just
13:48:23 And do we know if they're residential currently or the , there are, There is a abandoned recreational trailer on one that will be removed.
13:48:36 But they're both empty other than that zoned residential, presumably.
13:48:45 Yeah, i'm sure they are
13:48:57 It's it's always so interesting to to consider these because it's you know we the the implications of of taking more, you know.
13:49:11 Residential off of our tax roles is that it does shift very minute amounts.
13:49:16 The the the text levy to be split among fewer parcels.
13:49:22 Then And but I definitely see the value in these kind of landscape scale restoration efforts, and Debbie is especially unique and pristine environment.
13:49:35 Where it makes sense to to really focus conservation efforts.
13:49:40 So i'm i'm willing to support this and but you know I think it's a conversation we have to continually have. we have it in in many different formats timber.
13:49:53 1 one thing that was reminded to me about this, and reviewing all the junior taxing district information recently is Stacy also shared a summary of the pilts, and so these parcels
as part of natural areas will make them
13:50:05 eligible for pill payments to the county so we'll increase the payment and lieu of taxes that come, which is only a portion of the total tax, amount.
13:50:14 But still a payment that will come from these parcels.
13:50:22 Oh, good!
13:50:26 So back to the letter
13:50:38 So. yeah, it's just I mean the letter just talks about the values.
13:50:42 In the natural area, and then also of these parcels.
13:50:48 And then I just also a supportive of the Jefferson County, Sherland master program by contributing to known that loss of shoreline ecological functions.
13:50:58 So we'll conserve more ecological functioning feet of our shorelines, which is always a good thing when we can gain on that front.
13:51:10 And, as I mentioned, there will be a small recreational trailer removed from one of the parcels
13:51:27 Any questions from you greg I i'm sorry I I wasn't paying attention a little bit, but you said they're not zone for real residential.
13:51:38 Their zone forest practice. I think they're probably our zone residential.
13:51:41 But but not practical.
13:51:55 Yeah, let's see I don't know How I could get that answer as quickly as we need it.
13:52:03 But i'm happy to research that and I think they need this letter this week, though how does it have parcel numbers or addresses no addresses?
13:52:16 But i'm gonna look
13:52:22 Since we have time this afternoon
13:52:41 Seeing the battle that happened for some raw land adjacent to my property this last week.
13:52:46 I know that any place that one could build a house if there's, you know, just fed by roads and everything
13:53:09 Just passing elixir
13:53:19 Think you'd probably come at those from lindsey Hill road.
13:53:22 Yeah. , yeah. yeah. other side of the tail first down , zoomed out too much ,
13:53:54 Yeah,
13:53:58 Yeah, those all look to be those all those all look to be residential lots.
13:54:05 I can. Here, let me share this screen.
13:54:16 So it's somewhere somewhere in here
13:54:25 But I don't have the parcel numbers well got a large parcel in the center at the bottom belongs to Jefferson County, and then the one immediately above it is owned by a private
land over and then there's
13:54:41 Dnr: so that might be it the one you have your cursor on
13:54:50 Ask him,
13:54:57 Yeah, look at that bunch of Dnr. no relation, no relation
13:55:17 Let's see
13:55:41 And I will say these are the types of parcels that are our tribal partners are saying.
13:55:46 We have to. We have to stop the death by a 1,000 cuts of putting.
13:55:50 Dozen development along the shoreline. the the their inevitably impacts that are cumulative.
13:55:58 So with given that there are willing sellers like this is like I said.
13:56:08 The the fact that it's part of the larger kind of conservation effort where we're actually having an impact on a landscape scale which we see in debate.
13:56:17 I that for me overcomes my my concerns about the yeah tax roles well, and that they can only work with willing.
13:56:30 So salaries right? Yeah, cause they've been adding to the preservice properties can become available over time.
13:56:41 Yeah, yeah, I mean interesting, my my biggest web Well, my I've spent a fair amount of time in this area.
13:56:50 And i'd say the like what I would love to see is as we're dedicating more and more of the Syria's financial preserve that that we you know kind of clarify the access for
13:57:05 recreation. with dnr it's it's kind of a patchwork right now, and that's because there are still these private in holdings but and and I also recognize that we don't
13:57:18 want to encourage a ton of recreation in this very pristine area.
13:57:21 But it's very unclear I think for a lot of folks kind of what is the the the public benefit to recreation?
13:57:30 In in this area. so I don't even understand that then should Well, 1 one big benefit to any conservation on the shoreline is preservation of selfish habitat. right?
13:57:45 And that's an economic benefit to the local residents into the entire county.
13:57:51 And then this, when this preserve expansion was proposed, it was overwhelmingly supported.
13:57:59 I mean there were the the quill seen. School gymnasium was full. when the original Davea Bay Natural area preserve expansion.
13:58:09 Proposal was brought forward by the department of natural resources so there's been one standing broad community support for protecting these important shoreline habitat areas
in this area.
13:58:27 And this is a relatively small addition that they've been working on for a while, or small in holdings right.
13:58:36 There's in the in the meeting of other protected areas
13:58:47 So? Is there interest in sending this letter? or do you want me to get more information?
13:58:57 Or how are you guys feeling? mixed feelings, you know, support it, support the concepts.
13:59:07 But
13:59:10 Hey? taking a buildable lot off the impact of a single family residence is not the same as a clear cut, you know.
13:59:20 Love to know which parcels we're talking about and you say the timeline is this week, because I mean to be an army meeting is tomorrow, right?
13:59:31 It's not to be our though no rco when I asked when I asked Tim, he said, this week
14:00:01 I'm happy to support it, but also happy to wait until get some clarification.
14:00:08 Greg's concerns. yeah I would defer to you great!
14:00:11 This is your district. so i'm happy to follow up they have a grant deadline of time.
14:00:19 But I bet you that the public comments period for that grant proposal starts after the grant is submitted.
14:00:28 So i'm happy to get more information and bring this back next week.
14:00:34 Sure I guess I I hate to hold it up and I I don't have a a philosophical man.
14:00:39 I've got a small philosophical objection basically not not not knowing if it's already on a road fed with power and everything.
14:00:46 I guess you know, I think both goals could be had achieved without without necessarily taking it off.
14:00:55 The the tax roles
14:01:00 Okay, i'm So can you explain that Okay, Well, I I mean I think you know a single family residence wouldn't necessarily be a huge impact.
14:01:12 So if it's already served by infrastructure if there's a road going past it, and electrical you know access. i'm i'm hesitant to take it off you know the the open market for
for this since
14:01:26 most of I mean the ecological benefit you know the impacts of a single family residents.
14:01:32 Aren't necessarily very very high
14:01:37 Okay, Thank you.
14:01:42 Okay, so I will. I will get more specifics and bring this back for next week.
14:01:48 Thank you. Yeah, Okay, stop share. So I think yup i've done that the last I item on our agenda for this afternoon is continued workshop regarding county infrastructure and capital
needs and kate and mark you
14:02:11 guys are listed here. Okay, Carolyn, Can you make any panelists?
14:02:16 Please,
14:02:26 I'm not not to my knowledge, Mark but Did you invite anyone else to participate in this workshop.
14:02:31 Did you invite anyone else? Okay, So that spreadsheet, you see?
14:02:52 Man, let me get rid of that little
14:02:58 There we go!
14:03:16 Okay, So I Commissioners, I apologize for not having this ready for you a week ago.
14:03:22 Kate, and I met last week to further review the spreadsheet, and Kate came up with some improvements that she wanted made, and i'll just go over those quickly, so she wanted
a project name obviously and that column
14:03:39 didn't change much Oh, wait a minute go ahead
14:03:49 Oh, hang on So this I I got this from monty and after I sent it to him, and there there's a project description call, and let me see if if it's hidden, or something
14:04:35 Mark, are you I had the freeze pains on so that when you scrolled across the project named Didn't disappear.
14:04:43 I think that's probably what it is but okay no thank you yeah, I scrolled left, and there's the description.
14:04:49 So. So if you yeah, you could you could go to view and unfreeze the pains, and then that won't happen.
14:04:58 Okay. alright. yeah. I I had I had wrapped all this text
14:05:17 Okay. So the improvements. we added a description column and then over here.
14:05:23 We tried to identify whether or not the projects are eligible for iija funds, and and this is my work, and I have to tell you that the document I was looking at was 454 pages
14:05:40 along, and they have big funding categories, and then under each they have 60 more.
14:05:46 And so so this this could use some additional refinement.
14:05:52 , and I think all the way up until we actually apply for funds.
14:05:54 We're going to be getting additional clarity a lot of the funding sources in the guidance document from from President Biden.
14:06:04 Says to be determined when the funds are going to be available, and how they be they'll be made available.
14:06:10 But I I did the best I could do in identifying, whether or not projects are eligible.
14:06:15 And then I I listed the program. I thought applied to the project, and so
14:06:24 It. It appears as though a number of these projects are are eligible for for funding and
14:06:34 And then Kate also wanted rather than an urgency column.
14:06:38 She thought we should prioritize these and monty has done that, and I still need to do that with some of the projects that I've got on this list.
14:06:51 Since it's possible that we could get some funding for some of these I haven't identified, you know.
14:07:04 Resilience funding is sort of a nebulous category and it so I think we're gonna have to contact people up the chain at the State, and maybe at the Federal Government to try
to get a little more clarity on
14:07:15 what can be funded by resilience funding they talk about community resiliency, and to me that means a lot of things like having a county administration building that doesn't
collapse and the the event of our
14:07:28 earthquake. I didn't tell you about the a little pieces of plaster falling in my office today.
14:07:42 So. so, Kate. would you like to chime in here since the changes were mostly yours? Yeah.
14:07:50 So. just as a reminder that you know why we are creating this list.
14:07:55 I think there's there's 2 2 versions of this that's
14:08:00 We're gonna want to walk away with so one I think this this level of planning is just helpful for us to have a visual of what our needs are, and to be on the lookout for funding
But then also the
14:08:15 for the Icg. meeting. which is now in less than 3 weeks.
14:08:21 We want to gather information in a consistent format with the public sector partners that we're inviting for that conversation.
14:08:32 So. you know I think this is off to a good start.
14:08:35 I think this is probably more than we want to share with the Icg.
14:08:40 Need to identify the scope of that conversation a little bit further.
14:08:44 Whether that's each jurisdiction bringing maybe their top 5 capital projects, or perhaps it's more multi-partner, or projects that benefit the whole community or multiple organizations.
14:09:01 I don't know I I just know that like we probably don't need this level of detail from every jurisdiction.
14:09:06 There's a lot of internal just county operations that that we're not gonna need to bring that meeting. So I think this we'd still need to pair this down a little bit.
14:09:15 But none of that work is is for not because it's really helpful for our own internal planning.
14:09:22 So. I think we really need to figure out how we want to structure the Icg meeting. Heidi.
14:09:29 You'll be sharing that and we need to be sending out invites and you know kind of setting some clear expectations with everyone. we're inviting what information we're hoping
to bring just so you know I have
14:09:42 heard from both the city and the port, and to have told them to expect a homework assignment to come prepared to the meeting.
14:09:52 So I have been communicating with them, and I know that Mark has as well.
14:09:56 So we should figure out exactly what we want them to come to.
14:10:00 The meeting with in terms of being ready to have a conversation about what collaborative opportunities exist.
14:10:07 Yup yup right we've got looks like 25 different line items here, and if we're to trim this down do we want to make that this afternoon's work to highlight the the half a dozen
14:10:25 or so that we might want to take to the meeting on the nineteenth.
14:10:35 I think that would be good is this is this: I Ija List, a subset of the full list, which I see is another worksheet at the bottom.
14:10:36 There Is there a larger list? Yeah, kind of the old one where this is just without Iaj.
14:10:45 Oh, this is the old, the original. Yeah. Yeah. When Kate said she wanted to, she wanted to combine some categories and whatnot. And so
14:10:53 So this is Yeah. but the goal the goal on the 20 is is to to work out to make sure that we're doing complementary, not competitive.
14:11:04 Iga with requests, right? well identify those project areas where collaboration makes sense, and for them to be aware of of the sewer and headlock.
14:11:15 For example, who's involved with that other than the pudd because they're gonna operate it when it's constructive right now the port in the city yeah So
14:11:26 But ev charging stations. there's a lot of funding for that, and we can go in and ask for ev charging station monies for county facilities.
14:11:35 But you know, we might need a couple of those at the at the library, at the Transit center, and at the Pud site and at various other locations, and that might be one where we
submit a joint proposal for the
14:11:52 community as a whole, rather than having the city do one the port do one and so on.
14:12:03 Yeah. So hey, Mark and I have had a number of conversations about this, and we just love input from Heidi and Greg and and Monty about how how we could get the most benefit
out of bringing this conversation to our other
14:12:18 partners. you know it could be that we, you know, Say, kind of choose 5 what was it like?
14:12:27 Community based projects, and then 5 internal operations projects or There's different ways of of slicing the pie.
14:12:36 But you know there's some things that are just kind of standard what we do, and we know they're gonna need a lot of funding, and we might go after funding for it.
14:12:45 But it's you know county roads that's that's clearly our our work.
14:12:51 And i'm not sure we need to bring that to the group.
14:12:57 Important, so they may be monty of course So I guess I I would I i'm curious if you have opinions on how we can structure it to get the most out of that conversation.
14:13:10 , oh, go ahead, I just, I I agree with what you just said, Kate, and you know things like the capital pavement pro preservation project, and probably the fish passage barrier
removal.
14:13:21 And the cover replacement. I mean, these are things that are critical.
14:13:24 None of our partners are going to be at the table that's kind of county works, and and maybe the things also that are, you know, one step away like the I don't know if we're
ready to make a pitch about a new
14:13:36 county building, you know or even if that's the option if we're if we're really pursuing the chord, how seismic retro fit. So I guess you know looking at this priority list
too, you know the port
14:13:50 headlocks, who are, of course, and the I think the ott is kind of a
14:13:57 I raises above the kind of normal maintenance of our of our road infrastructure.
14:14:05 Well, I mean maybe thinking about it through the lens of the community, that it benefits like solid waste facility, solid waste facilities benefit all the residents of Jefferson
County, including those that live in the city
14:14:18 and the ott as well. I mean maybe thinking through these with that lens side in terms of what projects to bring to that Icg meeting
14:14:33 Right, and you know some projects like like this one 40 million for bridges.
14:14:39 Who Who else has a bridge that needs to be replaced?
14:14:43 And and so you know we can pursue that and it's whether it's part of the icg process or not.
14:14:50 Then, and so you know, if we want to bring 6 or 8 projects to the meeting on the nineteenth you know.
14:15:00 Which of those do we want to bring? Well, should we just go through the entire list and consider each one, I mean, a lot of them will be easy to say no.
14:15:10 And if you will be easy to say yes, I I I would support that approach, and it's not that we want to remove it.
14:15:23 Any of these it just what are, what are we bringing forward on the nineteenth?
14:15:27 So the whole list has a lot of benefit. Okay, of course.
14:15:31 Of course. yeah, like the sewer. I mean, we have partners there.
14:15:35 So i'd say the store should be one on the list. Yeah, I really think those top 4 are really community benefit priorities.
14:15:44 Yeah, I can't highlight anything if I
14:15:52 Top 4 those So those are go. I agree and I think down at the bottom of the list, you know, eb charging stations, homeless housing.
14:16:06 These are both the work. something we're working on already with some of these other partners
14:16:13 So
14:16:19 This is not elegant i'm just doing this quickly you know it's helpful
14:16:28 I mean there's 6 the the one thing I think isn't included here, which I think will come up on the nineteenth.
14:16:44 Is the idea of more joints recreation, planning and facilities.
14:16:51 : Yeah. including aquatic center, you know, potentially Mpv discussion.
14:17:01 Missile Park district coming up again in the future and you know those aren't really capital asks at this point.
14:17:09 But maybe a placeholder, for what would you call that coordinated recreation?
14:17:16 Facilities or something, you know, because that could include school districts that could include community centers, you know.
14:17:25 But none of this is is figured out by any means. but I do kind of want to put a placeholder for Okay, if you recall back when the Ymca.
14:17:36 Was heavily engaged in trying to create community support. for the facility like you're describing.
14:17:44 I I believe that we talked about that being an asset in the event of a disaster, that it would be a congregate space, and that it it could be a logistical hub.
14:17:54 It could serve the community in more ways, Just more than having basketball cords or a swimming pool.
14:18:02 Yup is that is that the concept you're thinking about.
14:18:11 So I think that kinda and I should say Jefferson healthcare also is still interested in the the Wellness center concept.
14:18:18 So So I would say, maybe wellness and
14:18:29 Yeah, I like the community. Well, this recreation facilities
14:18:42 Yeah, recreation includes aquatic. Huh: Yeah.
14:18:53 How's that? Maybe facilities, like I don't know that we're necessarily talking about 1 one capitol billing, I mean could end up being that But and you know it's this is really
a much more of a
14:19:07 planning feasibility phase so rather than a center you Want to say facilities, because I think It's part of a bigger conversation that might end up being in a form of an Mpv.
conversation.
14:19:21 I just I don't I that sounds hmm saying a center I think, immediately takes us back to Oh, my gosh, and we building a you know, way too expensive pool, and we're not.
14:19:31 We're not there yet. Wherever well I think that I think at the Icg. If we don't have any more detail on this, at least I think we'll have a robust discussion about this because
I think there's a there
14:19:44 is a need for this in the community. Yeah. And I was really pleased to hear last week that Jefferson healthcare is still wanting to be a part of that conversation.
14:19:52 So. Okay, so i'll highlight that and even though we don't have any.
14:19:57 I i'll do research to see if maybe that resiliency funding could apply here as Well,
14:20:09 Are there any other large capital projects that any of you have been involved in conversations about over the last, even since before I was here?
14:20:23 I mean i've heard the aquatic center various versions of that conversation for probably 15 years.
14:20:30 But i'd be interested in your thoughts too, monty if you have that's about this direction that we're going.
14:20:39 I'm trying to find a subset. of these projects to take to our I see G meeting, and if there are any that you feel like should be prioritized for that.
14:20:50 Well, can you explain to me really quickly what the the goal of the Icg meeting is?
14:20:59 I mean what What are you trying to do I mean you're working with these other agents around here?
14:21:05 To try to what divvy up some money or decide who's gonna apply for certain monies, or or or or give other people some of the counties money, or what's the what's the goal here?
14:21:20 I think it's that that oftentimes if you're pursuing a large project, if you can exhibit broad community support.
14:21:29 So say you know the city of the county, and the port would go forward for ott funding or something.
14:21:36 You know it a bigger co coalition can garner more and more support.
14:21:43 So just finding the subset of these projects that would benefit from a larger coalition.
14:21:51 Not not to take any of these off the list, but to find where that would be.
14:21:56 A good strategy to have a broader support coalition form.
14:22:01 Yeah, and i'm just a h you know reinforced with Commissioner Eisenhower.
14:22:06 Just said money that nothing's to stop you from applying for a bridge, money or culver removal and replacement money.
14:22:14 Cause I mean, you can tell their big dollars available for a variety of programs.
14:22:20 Well, yeah, and I I understand that. I mean we we just got awarded 5 million dollars for one of our bridges through.
14:22:29 You know the Federal bridge Rip replacement program and and some of these others.
14:22:33 I I just didn't know if we were talking about revenue sharing money or arpa money here, or if it's more, what Commissioner Eisenhower was was referring to Well, if I could jump
in
14:22:45 for Sec, too, Monty, I think. this is also situational awareness.
14:22:48 You know a lot of people were for example taken by surprise when the hospital's big project ended up on the front page of the leader, and you know it wasn't an awareness of
and you know the the how much of that was
14:23:01 accurate is debatable but the you know I think having the and we're talking about inviting transit and school districts, and you know some of the the folks who aren't always
at the table but to be
14:23:14 able to talk about major capital projects that are going to be happening in in the you know, 5 or 10 year timeframe is is really helpful in in part.
14:23:24 If there are voter initiatives to going going to the voters for bond initiatives that that's the kind of thing that we should be in much better communication about.
14:23:36 So that we're not surprised, and I don't know that we'll get to that place on the nineteenth. but that we start having that conversation of hey?
14:23:43 Let's be strategic here about our our capital needs and requests.
14:23:46 , Okay, Well, I get that. And I think, yeah, clearly, you have to narrow the list down to the kinds of projects that you you guys are are talking about.
14:23:57 I mean I you know we have a couple of those not so exciting.
14:24:03 You know road projects and stuff that we're still looking to get some match for which is reflected in this spreadsheet.
14:24:12 But that's certainly not something that would need to be brought up to that strategic level at an Icg meeting.
14:24:19 That's an Internal county discussion about whether the county can use some of its revenue sharing money for the center road overlay for match, or the Olympic discovery trail
there.
14:24:33 But the kind of goals that you're looking at Yeah, I agree, you know, narrow it down the you know the sewer.
14:24:38 Obviously the the trail. solid waste facilities.
14:24:46 Those those make sense. you know. Obviously there have been a lot of agencies involved in trying to address the the homeless issue.
14:24:55 I mean. So that seems like a sort of a an issue that touches everyone in some way.
14:25:06 You know. So I mean i'm i'm fine with with the way you guys have, or thinking about this that's great, I mean, I think you know the city.
14:25:17 It's up to the city port transit to to talk about their own.
14:25:20 You know. projects, of course, but obviously the city has some the waterline.
14:25:27 They've been talking about quite a bit and that could have some overlap with the Olympic discovery trail, which could be a nice collaboration there in the future.
14:25:41 For part of that we're already working with transit through the distribution of the surface transportation block grant fund.
14:25:50 Some. they have a electric bus funded partially through some of the distribution of those funds that we manage.
14:25:59 The port may want to talk about the relocation or the addition of a new spur on the Larry Scott trail to get around the board and over to the Oh, the
14:26:12 You know the park and ride there The transit facility.
14:26:17 Next to safe ways, so that that could be city, county port.
14:26:22 Kind of project so other than that, you know. I guess you know, waiting here what what some of these other agencies are gonna bring up.
14:26:34 But I think our list is pretty good here the priorities you you've established or good here's a couple of comments one no 3 comments one month i'm i'm wondering if you could
kind of be
14:26:49 in the wings for us on the nineteenth 5 Pm. meeting.
14:26:54 But it would be really good to be able to call on your expertise.
14:26:59 One that we haven't talked about that that is on the list in some form is which I think has a lot of community benefit is Jeff, calm. You know whether that's we do know that
the the jail is going
14:27:16 to need some work at some point so you know kind of what is the I don't know if that's you know, just to center in chords, or you know that's something that has a lot of cross
jurisdiction
14:27:26 on impacts. So and then I think we have to talk about all of these in the context of the also the internal county operations needs, which is going to have to include likely
a new building.
14:27:42 Whether that's Justice center, whether the public works whether that's administration, or some combination of the above like, I think we wanna talk about that you know just
that that we can highlight these community benefit projects.
14:27:57 But, you know, we're gonna also be planning for pretty Major.
14:28:01 Capital outlay for our own internal operations, too.
14:28:07 I I agree with Jeff Comma. I neglected that one but 100% that is, across jurisdictional and important.
14:28:12 And and really an acute need and also I mean about the planning.
14:28:17 We're so early in it I mean do we just say we're getting into capital planning because we're we're outgoing facilities.
14:28:24 We need to do something, but we don't know what it is is that what you're saying?
14:28:31 Yeah, I mean, you know, I think the risk of something like this presenting these projects is you create the expectation that you can.
14:28:38 Before you you you're gonna make some progress on them and you know I I would love that if we could, because there are largely, you know, shared priorities throughout the community.
14:28:52 But you know the reality is that we are only gonna get so much funding, and we have really unsexy needs to.
14:29:00 So I maybe it's just part of how we structure the conversation to manage expectations.
14:29:05 That we we care a lot about these things, and we we hope that the i ija, which apparently is now the bil, the bipartisan infrastructure law.
14:29:16 They change the name again. that just that it has to be within the context of our our larger capital needs within the county.
14:29:30 Yeah, I think it's the way you frame the conversation as it is that's tidy's job.
14:29:42 So do I. highlight jumpcom I think so I mean it's certainly city.
14:29:49 It involves fire throughout the county. It is your first time.
14:29:56 , Yeah. Yeah. And And yeah, I think emergency operations.
14:30:08 I like, if we could even even beef up that kind of you know.
14:30:12 Talk about the importance of this for resilience.
14:30:14 Okay, of any, all sorts of natural disaster. you know we're really relatively unprepared.
14:30:23 Transfer facilities. We could roll in facility backup power, you know, if we had an emergency.
14:30:33 Resilience or response line. In this list we could have multiple projects in that line
14:30:48 Seismic retrofit are the courthouse , , I think if you apply, though it's project specific, I don't think you can say we got 6 things.
14:30:59 Give us this much money for 86 things. Yeah.
14:31:09 So then would we also want to call out some of the that context of our internal needs to which are all the other things on the list. Right?
14:31:23 Yeah. but I think prioritizing, especially the big ticket items.
14:31:29 Yeah, let's say, you guys already taken a crack at that, with your priority priority prioritization that was to the right on this sheet.
14:31:50 There was yeah, their priority like I said monty prioritized all of his.
14:31:57 And I haven't done that with all of the projects I put on there, you know, for me a new county building or seismically retrofitting.
14:32:04 This would be priority number one. but I don't have 35 million right, and and so given funding realities
14:32:15 A lesser priority project might flip to the top because it's affordable right. Were there sources of funding that you saw in that 480 page document for something like a county
facility now resiliency is the best fit
14:32:31 but I like I said earlier, I I don't know exactly I mean having having a accounting government building. survive an earthquake to me is a resilience.
14:32:42 Move. Yeah. be very difficult for us to serve our community.
14:32:47 If this building cease to exist. Yeah. And and the reason is, I think this is part of why it has to be part of the conversation.
14:32:58 Is that that we would likely we'd be taking on debt, probably in the the form of bonding. not not public check.
14:33:11 That would gender require a public vote. but you know we have a lot of that capacity, and would be bonding for something like that.
14:33:21 So again it's just part of part of all of these decisions we make but that would my guess is that we would be funding for that, and not there's not a lot of funding available
for maybe portions of that
14:33:35 project could get funded through through grants, but for the most part.
14:33:40 That's internal debt you take on
14:33:46 So I mean i'd be happy to keep it as broad as new new County Building, Tbd.
14:33:54 Which could be, you know justice. public works comma administer administrative. just as a placeholder, and that's how it's listed here.
14:34:10 Oh, great, Thank Thank you. And , *, * New county building , All right.
14:34:19 There is log justice, administrative. You want that highlighted also
14:34:32 I don't know how do we wanna categorize these.
14:34:35 So we're gonna have to ask our partners to do the same thing.
14:34:37 So whether that's community benefit projects versus internal operations or internal capital needs
14:34:54 Feel free to help me out here, guys, and just wing it cell one A with a
14:35:08 You know a table that describes yellow, as shared priorities oranges county priorities, although I don't think we wanna share this whole list with our partners in the public,
not because it's any of It is private just because
14:35:24 it's it's more information than they need like I Think we want to create a shorter subset of the . for the process of organizing the list for us.
14:35:37 Come up, and then we can send them the subset that our our perceived share priorities.
14:35:45 And we should also describe what we would like them to do.
14:35:49 Similar listing of shared priorities priorities that they have that they believe that they would share with all of their ict partners.
14:35:59 Is that what we're asking them to do in advance of the nineteenth?
14:36:03 I think we would ask them to fill out the same form with their projects, and see where there's Overlap without looking at ours.
14:36:12 We could send them ours as an example. Yeah, the subset Yeah.
14:36:19 Exactly , the subset being those highlighted But I think, too, it'd be good like I said I think it's really important that we also talk about the other the internal needs and
and you know even if that's just
14:36:32 a running through a hey? we're going to need a new county building, and expect to be using some of our debt capacity for that in the next 10 years.
14:36:43 And you know we estimate that that would cost around 35 million.
14:36:47 So do we want to spend some time now identifying the highest county priorities that we would wanna share with them in the of that meeting other than the county building?
14:37:02 I thought that's what we were doing so that's the next step in our process today.
14:37:11 I didn't understand that I thought we were talking about kind of framing our presentation.
14:37:20 We have lots of internal county needs and there's some plan a lot of planning that we have to do about facilities.
14:37:26 Whether That's you know a long justice center, or a new dedicated public works, facility or seismically retrofitting the county courthouse.
14:37:36 But these are the the needs that are our community kind of these are the ones we're going to present today.
14:37:42 So just you frame the conversation. this with a preamble and but i'm happy to also go through and kind of prioritize the the county ones that are not on this list I mean poet
works.
14:37:54 You know we have the tip already. We kind of go through that list a lot, and those are on there. And you know, knowing the the sound room preservation program and the the funding
that they need to for match is is important and I mean we could talk
14:38:07 about that right now, if we want but well the tip I think has 40 lines on it.
14:38:13 Yeah, I don't think they're gonna be adding 40 lines to this, or maybe we do.
14:38:18 But it would be put one line that's priority transportation projects identified in the tip with a subtotal of those priority projects.
14:38:29 I mean, do we want to do? We want that as one of our in another color county priorities?
14:38:37 Seems like we would, for the icg meeting yeah if we're gonna show them a subset of our internal county priorities.
14:38:51 I guess. i'm saying I don't think we should show them the subset. I think we should just preamble it, and then show them the highlighted ones that we've talked about today.
so we're showing them you know 6 to 8
14:38:53 items. Once we show them start showing them 15 things, they become right.
14:38:59 We also have a set of internal county specific priorities, or whatever not to debate right.
14:39:08 Because you don't want this to become unwieldy and you know, if we have 50 projects, then I think we hit the unwieldy threshold.
14:39:17 No, I'm fine with just sharing the 6 or 8 that we identify as shared priorities and and introducing the fact that we have another lists much longer list of county priorities
that we're pursuing
14:39:33 funding for. but that we see these is the highest priority.
14:39:38 Collaborative opportunities. Yeah, I still think we would wanna call out a new building, though I mean, like that's The point of this kind of collaboration is that we know what
what everybody's up to and you know that's going
14:39:52 to be a pretty major lifts, and so I guess I would like to at least include the new county building.
14:40:01 Not that there's gonna be a lot of overlap with our partners, but just that it's It will be a massive undertaking.
14:40:12 Make it make it a slightly different color, cause it's it's not a shared priority.
14:40:19 It's. our it's one of our top priorities perfect and I might include, add public works in the description as a an option.
14:40:29 Oh, what now include in the description public works as one of the options for a new building.
14:40:37 So we figure where you just made it blue, and it says description.
14:40:46 Just put Lon Justice Comma, public works and or administrative offices.
14:40:57 I think if you have 3 items there, long justice, administration, and public works would come.
14:41:04 Third: okay, Well,
14:41:15 It's also probably the most affordable one so it might become the more global one.
14:41:20 Well in law just the same public works are both administrative offices.
14:41:26 So it's potentially right are you just talking about your office Mark Administrator's office.
14:41:34 Yeah. when I think administration, I think auditor treasure recessor things with that sort, community development, public works.
14:41:42 That's I said in county government with public works and to me they're unique.
14:41:48 But drive by the public works facility in Mason County, and I can see why Moni is excited about the prospect of having a facility like that.
14:41:59 Well, and I might also add that it provides room for expansion for health.
14:42:09 And DCD we were to move out of here but the initial thought was just not necessarily for the folks up here in this office, but really for the road crew they're operating out
of a portable that we're currently
14:42:22 running for $30,000 a year. right now, without a bathroom.
14:42:30 So we've been talking about how something like that might be a phased project, but design overall, so that could be phased in over time.
14:42:43 But that's all a lot different discussion. but i'll just leave it at that near 4 corners the the way that they expanded that, and you know it was multi-phase correct.
14:43:01 But you could take a bite now, and another bite 5 years from now, well, and I really love to have the county have a a larger footprint in that Headlock urban growth area to
that's part of it I mean if public works were all consolidated there it would help our
14:43:19 operation be more cohesive and efficient, but it would also be closer to our customers as well.
14:43:26 It was interesting to hear that Usda perhaps provides loans for those kinds of strip in that cutting infrastructure when we met with them last week, Kate, as well as solid waste
facilities again, but you
14:43:39 know lower interest loans with longer payback terms would could be attractive.
14:43:46 40 years, 2 and a half percent. Yeah, to not have to bond that's that's both the cost savings and a lot of effort today.
14:44:03 20 years from now. Seems like a pretty good deal, and then 2 and a half percent, of course, is pretty good, too, for the interest.
14:44:14 Yeah, if it stays there right right well it'll go up but you know it'll be less than bond bonding.
14:44:20 So just another place to look when we're talking about borrowing money, we put that in the potential funding sources.
14:44:30 Mark, Usda, Rd
14:44:37 For this category Here new building certainly seems like prioritizing at least the planning and preliminary design work on some of these projects.
14:44:49 Whether it's law and justice, public works or whatever is within the capacity of the county to fund prioritize seeking funding.
14:45:04 For so at least there's a a good plan going forward
14:45:12 I saw Eric turn on his camera. I wondered if he had something one to add.
14:45:18 Eric, did you have something you want to add? No, I just started saying capital projects and Tip and I just started to make myself available.
14:45:23 Okay, Thank you.
14:45:33 So if we I mean, we can probably pretty quickly wrap up the Icg portion of this discussion.
14:45:41 But if we share with them this subset of projects in yellow, and as an example of large projects, the county is pursuing independently the project in blue, and ask them to return
their priorities in a similar format so that we can
14:46:01 shuffle, shuffled the deck together.
14:46:03 Eventually, and our work together. that seems like the homework that we're asking for correct just to recap.
14:46:13 Okay, agreed, and to be prepared to speak to to their projects.
14:46:19 And you know I think we're gonna have to set up the strict time frame on that.
14:46:25 Once we know how many other a public sector partners are coming.
14:46:30 We can start looking at a timeline but we're gonna have to be prepared to go through these pretty quickly as a bit of a laundry list. and then look at where there's overlap
for for their discussion in that
14:46:40 meeting. Okay, So, to be clear, I i'll copy this over and i'll organize it So that yellow projects are the top.
14:46:49 Then the blue, and then the ones that are not highlighted below that as internal we we want to keep the list fairly simple. So that's still we still have a list of those.
14:46:59 But I think for Icg. We don't want to bring a list with 25 things on.
14:47:03 Okay, is that what you guys are thinking? yeah yeah that's true.
14:47:10 I think what I just tried to say
14:47:22 So in terms of This being like version for our discussion about capital and infrastructure needs.
14:47:31 Is there any thing other than the Icg agenda that we wanna bite off today to discuss targeting?
14:47:41 Is. This is Gene, and 2523,
14:47:47 Charging is missing. A G and cell B. 23 mark.
14:47:51 Do. I I've made a note of a couple of typos This will be spell checked repeatedly before I share with anybody.
14:48:03 I I think and if you're trying to move away from the Icg.
14:48:08 Entirely discussion. But it would be good to figure out
14:48:14 Who who is inviting community partners and just maybe come to some agreement on the the wording of that.
14:48:26 . school districts transit Jefferson healthcare.
14:48:34 I think it'd be good to to you know clear language.
14:48:40 And ask going out to them and i'm i'm happy to do the first draft of that, and run it by
14:48:48 This group. But if anyone else it feels especially motivated to do that fine, it's not i'm not sure whose role that is entirely.
14:48:58 But, Kate, are you thinking like a memorandum, a a letter inviting them to participate?
14:49:06 Okay, Okay, no. I think that would be great, Kate, if you would take a first crack at that.
14:49:11 , yeah, and if you share with me i'll i'll run it by Greg and Heidi.
14:49:17 So are we gonna give each organization the time to talk about their project.
14:49:22 Is that like the the partner organizations, too? Yeah, I think just a quick run through, though.
14:49:29 Okay, and a lot more information will be in the spreadsheet for us to digest.
14:49:34 But yeah, like. so we'll wanna decide on you know when do we want these them?
14:49:39 This list back from everybody. Are we gonna try and get that in advance of the meeting so that it can be published with the agenda?
14:49:47 You know, just logistics like that that would need to be part of that invitation.
14:49:51 So how far in advance does the agenda need to go out?
14:49:55 Is it 2 weeks. I don't I don't know how far in advance.
14:50:02 It's it's been went through or 4 days for they're noticed already, Right? Yeah, I cg agenda.
14:50:10 We tried to notify people in 2 weeks, and I guess with an agenda, so that, all the different agencies, and about media information on the meeting.
14:50:20 For affecting that agenda. yeah the the last I Well, there's a template going around for the agenda and we're working with Angel and heidi on that So the agenda could just
14:50:37 list in discussion of capital priorities, and then we could add this list, compiled from all of the attendees later to the agenda.
14:50:44 So we can finalize the agenda, and the bulk of the meeting will be this discussion of capital priorities.
14:50:53 Right, and so what we've agreed on here today.
14:50:57 I need to make the changes very quickly. and I can i'll share this with Aaron Kevin, and John tomorrow during the at meeting.
14:51:06 But i'll also have to run it by the 3 of you or at least, Kate, to make sure that that i've comply with your wishes.
14:51:23 No, I think you should run it by all of us and I Don't I don't. I think if you want to show them a preliminary version of it tomorrow. but I was just saying to Carolyn as well
this
14:51:25 can be added for the agenda later doesn't need to go out with the initial
14:51:38 Come up with something that's only has 3 columns at least, at least.
14:51:51 John and Erin. I have discuss that with attachments should be added later.
14:51:59 But the agenda We just kind of like getting out there.
14:52:02 So we're there on the agenda so We're gonna have all 4 of the municipal partners that we're always at Icg with for school districts from East Jefferson transit the hospital
So we're talking at
14:52:15 least 10 groups. Is that right? Is there anyone I missing the table so broadly.
14:52:26 So that's the first I heard of it yeah well i'd i'd invite kate to elaborate on that a little bit.
14:52:31 I i'm not so sure that that we want the school districts in the hospital and the library, or whoever else we invite to to go through this through.
14:52:40 I thought this was principally for now the Icg. members. Yeah, tell us more about that thinking, Kate. cause the first we've heard of it. Oh, I I've been talking about it all
along with this.
14:52:51 I the for this icg meeting but I mean there's a couple of ways about it.
14:52:58 The you know, I do think it would be beneficial to have the school districts if they're interested, and they very well might not be, and would decide not to come.
14:53:07 But they might be they they often express a desire to have more collaboration.
14:53:12 And and we don't have any formal ways that are our public entities do interact So also they have a an effort of for the force districts.
14:53:29 Also do a monthly get together, so we could ask if they wanted to have one representative speak to all of the talk for all of the districts.
14:53:38 That would be one way to minimize that. But I also just think that not everybody will choose to come.
14:53:44 And and this could be the the first of you know.
14:53:48 A longer conversation. I don't know that we're gonna you know.
14:53:54 Agree on community priorities in one meeting, but I think setting the table starting.
14:53:59 That conversation has a lot of value it's just good to hear that thinking and feel free to push back.
14:54:08 That's you know this has been my just my brainstorm for a while.
14:54:13 So happy to to have input I mean I think one school district representative, you know, if they can, they can all be there to answer questions or anything.
14:54:22 I'm just looking at you know, 10 municipal peers times 10Â min, you know. we're not gonna do anything else.
14:54:29 But listen to a quick pitch, and not have any time to discuss.
14:54:31 I guess I feel like we might need a framework, you know.
14:54:35 Maybe if we had the spreadsheet, the data from people before then, you know, we could spend more time talking about plugging into a framework.
14:54:50 Maybe we need to have some architecture to facilitate the conversation, I guess, is what i'm saying.
14:54:53 I'm just afraid it'll just be a vomiting of information and nothing else with, I mean the hospital transit.
14:54:59 We're not library fire, fire you know 5 fire districts.
14:55:06 It gets pretty unlikely pretty quick. but if we can make a framework where we can manage it.
14:55:16 I don't know I don't have a solution? just questions, I mean, do we start with the conversation of the core Icg partners and and make the one of the outcomes being a and a second
meeting.
14:55:29 I mean, it feels like a lot to get done on one meeting and have meaningful outcomes, or or have a discussion of shared priorities, You know, if people are just presenting their
top 3 to 4 projects.
14:55:46 And then you know that's 10Â min and if it's 10 groups like Greg said that's almost 2Â h, or we really hold people to a a shorter time frame and you know literally like have
a timer like you
14:56:04 know. Okay. 4 or 5Â min that's It one idea I had was to have each partner have one or 2 slides that they had up while they were presenting though.
14:56:20 That And then each slide had a 2Â min script or something, you know, in terms of conveying the information effectively.
14:56:29 Yeah, you don't want 10 different people running this different slide shows, though. .
14:56:44 I think I always understood that where we were going with this I Still, don't quite understand how we're going to get there.
14:56:55 Monty's having trouble hearing us who is monty Eric?
14:57:01 Are you having trouble hearing us? No,
14:57:09 You don't have to even capture going do you want to go on with this.
14:57:13 I still don't quite understand. so yeah sounds like you have maybe capture going.
14:57:19 You must have started or something cause I didn't have it it wasn't a problem for the first half of the meeting, and all of a sudden I started having 2 meetings running at the
same time.
14:57:29 So i'll try to figure it out it must be a capture.
14:57:32 Yeah, so it's in a browser window monty So it seems like one of the big questions here is is, If how many people are, how many people for how much time you know are are making
presentations, and what's the
14:58:09 goal at the end. What kind of I mean? are we working towards a list of community priorities which is laudable, and you know we'll help with with funding asks.
14:58:20 But how how do we get there? Maybe I mean maybe the first step is is starting to work on that, and getting this spreadsheet worked out and distributed with invitations.
14:58:30 You know we're still working out how we're gonna manage the meeting.
14:58:33 But we'd love you know your top 5 priorities or something slotted into this spreadsheet when we have those, and know who can attend will build the agenda to you know next week.
14:58:45 I guess, to to plan the meeting I mean it's gonna have to be a an iron clad agenda I think , Okay, So I have to be.
14:58:56 I have to wear My! what are they called brass knuckles?
14:59:03 So So when I came into this meeting I was thinking I was there thinking more about collaboration, and how we would work with the city, the Pd.
14:59:15 And the port to collaborate on priorities but now i'm having to reframe my understanding of the meeting and kind of the scope of the conversation.
14:59:23 So it's a more general conversation we're not actually trying to make progress towards collaborative priorities in this meeting.
14:59:30 We're trying to hear what people people's priorities are is what I'm hearing out of this conversation today, or maybe it's both.
14:59:39 Maybe the first hour is let's hear from all the partners and the second hour is is talking about collaborative opportunities. So everybody gets 5Â min in the first hour. I think
that's the most you can give Yeah, Yeah, and then you
14:59:53 know. So We're gonna hear some overlap probably you know the let's say the city and the board folks talked about ev charging stations.
15:00:00 You know, then, that goes into a list of like, Okay, these are the collaborative projects.
15:00:05 We've identified similar funding sources let's you know. maybe create a working group that's gonna advance that initiative.
15:00:14 Another. I think something i'll be looking for is what are projects that are going to be potentially going to the public for for funding for bonding ballot measures.
15:00:26 Let's get those on a list and and start thinking about timing of those and sequence signals appropriately.
15:00:36 Yeah, I think
15:00:37 Yeah, I think that that where we overlap will will be pretty obvious and rise to the surface.
15:00:45 And and we'll have an opportunity to talk about Then kind of next steps, or who's gonna spearheads different projects.
15:00:53 So we could spend the first hour doing partner presentations. 10 people can do 5Â min each with a little slop in there and then 10 people, organizations, and then the second
hour could be just half an hour discussion of potential collaborations and
15:01:12 then the the next half hour can be a discussion of funding strategies which would be public, which would be these.
15:01:19 Grant sources. I mean like having a a column on that will is go for a public vote on this spreadsheet.
15:01:26 You know we can pack a lot of data into the spreadsheet, so we don't have if we have one thing that everyone is looking at it.
15:01:34 Can we can get a lot we can start from a more informed place.
15:01:36 Yeah, and I think that's that would be really valuable understanding.
15:01:39 You know what bonds are people planning where though maybe there's, some organizations that are reluctant.
15:01:45 So , Yeah. Hmm: Okay, So we can put those 2 3 categories of conversation in the agenda, the first hour being the partner.
15:02:00 Presentations 5Â min each. we'll just hold that that space. Now for that.
15:02:07 The second item being a discussion of collap potentials for cloud collaboration, and then the third item being a discussion of funding strategies of the collaborative.
15:02:22 Yeah. or also, if some an entity is going to pursue a bond like 4 towns in school district, or you know
15:02:43 And those 3 categories of information can go on the agenda.
15:02:49 But we don't have to put time stamps on them necessarily. When we send out the initial agenda, we can just say these are.
15:02:57 These will be the 3 things we cover in that 2Â h.
15:02:59 Block. Yeah. and how much time each each partner gets, I think, will be dictated by how many people accept the invitation and how much time we have available.
15:03:10 Yeah, and how many elected officials open their mouse That's that Now, cat hurting question, Okay, I don't know.
15:03:25 Do we need Monty and Eric here, I feel like we're precious minutes, or as we talk about structure and communic communication with our partners. I don't know if these guys, what
do we I mean do we wanna talk about
15:03:39 that the list that's not highlighted at all while we have our , , subject matter X.
15:03:44 Here, I put in the invitation to to our our peers who we want to invite.
15:03:56 But yeah, I don't know if we want to talk about other capital stuff.
15:03:59 All. we have, Monte There,
15:04:04 So, Monty, you've already taken a crack at prioritizing the projects.
15:04:11 Yeah, I did it's it's kind of hard to prioritize things.
15:04:17 It's already been discussed, but you know comparing apples and oranges.
15:04:23 Just not easy plus a lot of you know. priorities depend on funding availability, cost of the project, and so many other things.
15:04:30 But in general I I tried to put him in some sort of priority because I heard that was what great.
15:04:39 Well, I guess I had a question on about what monte you said earlier.
15:04:43 About capital planning, and I guess I just want to understand timing, and it does feel like giving a central services.
15:04:49 Director is step one, and then really putting as monty talked about some some capital dollars into capital planning for the whole county is like the basic work plan for that
central services director when they are here.
15:05:06 And i'm wondering if that's an accurate summation, and the next steps for not not the public works.
15:05:12 Ones here like fisbashes or you know this there's But i'm talking about county buildings, and you know, jail expansion.
15:05:18 That kind of stuff that is, is, I would say, that should be in the preview of the Central Service and director to direct that work.
15:05:28 , Yeah, I I agree with that
15:05:37 Then we're done
15:05:44 Yeah, I think it's it's helpful just to have have done this work and have it all in one place.
15:05:49 But you know I think the it's a really deep dive to to take this to the next level.
15:05:57 And that we not gonna really start on that without a Central services director.
15:06:02 I mean public works possible to go our own way but I don't think that we necessarily should, because again the the like the idea of public works moving that plays into what
health and DCD.
15:06:18 Are doing, and also the facility location is shared with err, and which is Central Services Department.
15:06:28 So I mean, while some, maybe some work could be done on that.
15:06:32 What is public works? What ideas do we have? I mean, I do think it has to be done in concert with the facilities and central services kind of central services.
15:06:43 Director. Yeah, if if we didn't collaborate on that it could turn out to be some standard or not as efficient, otherwise correct.
15:06:58 But some of the projects
15:06:59 But some of the projects that are priority projects on the list.
15:07:02 Public works is already pursuing, has has secured or is pursuing funding for independently, and I don't know if we wanna mark those in any way.
15:07:14 But I know a lot of those road projects Look there's 5.7 million secured, you know.
15:07:21 So well, you know, like solid waste is a facility. but solid waste is, I mean that's facility is, you know, never been operated as part of central services. facilities.
15:07:37 Department, you know. I mean that's kind of its own its own entity there, although we've asked for and not a commitment from from yeah, you got it, Mark, and the Board for money.
15:07:49 Does Kickstarter. Our planning process then That's typically the case money, I believe I know in Clark County.
15:07:59 We We contracted with Columbia resources, which was a private firm, and they ran R.
15:08:04 3 transfers stations down there. and so, as Central general Services director, I had nothing to do with that.
15:08:12 And the same condition exists here. well ours is not privately owned.
15:08:16 It's it's ours and but the but the funding, you know, is, you know, the it comes from the users primarily. so.
15:08:24 It's it's just a totally different animal like you say, yeah, and you and you see that there is 2 275 million for recycling infrastructure I don't know why they that limited
it to
15:08:39 to recycling, and not to the the full scope of you know, dealing with ways, I think recycling kind of a issue.
15:08:50 Does your after China stop taking it and there's all these private, primarily private sector providers that have a material recovery facilities that they're rapidly trying to
build or upgrade to handle the
15:09:03 recycling stream from domestically. since shipping, all that stuff overseas is not happening anymore.
15:09:13 So that issue is very much in forefront of the Biden administration right now.
15:09:26 So so that's probably a lot of that money may go to some of those material recovery facility operators.
15:09:37 Those Murphs I mean we'll look at that for sure ourselves.
15:09:40 To see if there's anything there for for a transfer station like ours, that's a Federal program, and it's only got 275 million in it designated for recycling It Seems like those
15:09:54 are gonna go to more larger regional, you know, operators like King County.
15:10:01 And so how much count you know it'd be luck well, a lot of these programs like the raise grants as well, I mean, you know, when they talked about funding rural They're still
not talking about rural in terms,
15:10:17 of Jefferson counting they're talking about major major projects that happen to be in rural areas for transportation infrastructure that have multiple partners involved.
15:10:33 And and they're regionally significant exactly mark yeah
15:10:44 I guess I had one of the question going back to the list, have we?
15:10:48 Or I forgot if we already found dollars for the the 2 2 bits of red online, 5 and line 8 about the Ott and the capital Pavement Preservation Project to match those grants.
15:11:02 Well, I I asked Monty if he needed those funds in 2,223, and he said no.
15:11:06 And then he came back, and I believe, said the 274. Is that right? money?
15:11:10 That you like in 2,023? Or was it the 300?
15:11:16 It was the 300 but we can also push those projects if it works better for the funding cash, flow stream.
15:11:27 I mean 24 would be acceptable for either those as well.
15:11:34 Yeah. And you know, given the most recent economic news with negative Gdp: growth.
15:11:40 You know we can pencil it in for 23, but we have to pay attention between now and then to.
15:11:46 I can economic factors. It will impact our revenue streams.
15:11:51 But we did talk about the Federal revenue sharing arca going to both of those at that I know that's uncertain.
15:11:58 But it's it's very much in line with you know, leveraging other funds and you know.
15:12:05 So I think I thought we we wrote both of those into the our best spreadsheet.
15:12:12 We did. But then we took them out. Okay, because of the timing.
15:12:17 Yeah, just you might wanna put a placeholder in there for them, just to be clear to you.
15:12:25 Talking about the recent arpa spreadsheet or the previous one recent.
15:12:32 Well, wasn't there some concern that the revenue sharing wasn't going through as strongly as originally thought as well.
15:12:39 Yeah, it might only be like 55% of what they what they appropriated.
15:12:46 But we you know we don't know but I think We wanna go to keep that on the list of possibilities.
15:12:53 You know the the leveraging leveraging piece is really important to me for those funds.
15:13:06 So yeah, i've heard where we can contribute and it leverages significant resources into the county seems like a huge priority for use of those funds that are allocated to us,
and we know there will be revenue.
15:13:25 Sharing money. but it we don't know how how little how how much, if we will be climbed back so, and the only thing other thing we have on the list right now is the support for
the Evans.
15:13:36 Vista property right now, which is, and the hadlock Mason Street project.
15:13:43 I was reban sharing too,
15:13:49 That was actually the only one that was on the confirmed funding list in there and below that there's a list of 4 to 6 projects, including Evans vista, that are candidates for
that funding
15:14:06 Right that's right. Okay. Anything else we want to talk about on this item
15:14:19 I mean Well, once are we imagining that our new Grant coordinator is going to coordinate all this pursuit of funding?
15:14:28 I don't know. I know public works has already been doing a lot of grant writing, and yeah, public works is well schooled and submitted grant applications.
15:14:39 So I I imagine they might wanna do that themselves. It depends on the on the projects, you know.
15:14:49 Trail sidewalk multi model that would fall under public works.
15:14:54 But others that wouldn't so it depends I think
15:15:06 Well, I feel like we have a good sense of the agenda for the ICD meeting, so we can update that and get that out. and we've got a good start on our our county projects that
we imagine being
15:15:18 collaborative projects. And then we have our one example of a project the county would pursue on its own.
15:15:25 Is there anything else we need to do to get ready for the Icg meeting?
15:15:32 Could we benefit from looking at this just from our internal county team?
15:15:36 This list, and see if there's any more information that can we can add to it.
15:15:41 Now, I mean, I feel like Mark started this list. Then I spent a bunch of time with him working on it.
15:15:48 Now Kate spent a bunch of time I don't know what the next step is with this list other than the Icg.
15:15:54 Meeting, and I think in advance of that I will be digging a little more into the infrastructure handbook and
15:16:06 No There's there's a lot of detailed information about what is going to be passed through to states what's going to be competitive?
15:16:13 What's prioritized for rural you know so maybe just being a little.
15:16:18 I think we could flush this out with more detail that doesn't necessarily need to be in the icg spreadsheet.
15:16:25 We create that? Just so we have some more information at our fingertips to be making decisions about what's feasible to consider taking on what's worth applying for.
15:16:35 What's not you know like you said heidi if it's a small amount for a nationally competitive program.
15:16:41 That's you know not like to if we're not like we to score high.
15:16:46 Then it's not something we need to consider
15:16:53 Okay, is there anything else mark that you want from us today?
15:17:05 Okay, So beyond this agenda item, is there anything else that we want to talk about for the good of the order?
15:17:14 Our standing agenda items. I think monty and Eric if you'd like the rest of your day. back.
15:17:20 You can have it. Thank thank you so much for being here.
15:17:28 Thanks, guys. Yeah, thanks. Monty. dirt. So there are standing agenda items are covid, miscellaneous items, calendar coordination.
15:17:38 There was one item I wanted to ask greg about on that and then future agenda items and i'm Covid.
15:17:45 I'm just I you know her hearing allison's update this morning, and then just thinking about the numbers going up.
15:17:55 Are we? How can we network with other counties to find out what they're doing in terms of cases being on the rise in their counties?
15:18:05 Are people putting any more of their precautions back in place that you've heard of Gregory or Mark I I think the wheel is gone until until people start really getting sick
I think the will is going i'd be happy if
15:18:24 we want to go back to virtual meetings until we get back to moderate.
15:18:28 I I wouldn't mind that that's a fine threshold to to do.
15:18:33 I don't mind I mean I like being in person with y'all. I I don't mind being virtually that we're usually in the same building.
15:18:39 I I know we we haven't we haven't excluded any of the we don't have a public here with us, and haven't but 2 or 3, so we could it would be easy to go back to virtual if that
15:18:49 would be the pleasure of the board. I don't know mark Do you have a recommendation.
15:18:55 I kind of like this. I mean i'm 10 feet from you and 15 feet from you, and you know 12 feet from Carolyn.
15:19:03 I don't know what the public thinks but I can you know I'm Flexible.
15:19:08 I can do either mark, do we? have any idea of if we're seeing cases rise within county employees or at at county offices, and or where the public interacts with?
15:19:26 Us I have not heard of anything. Yeah, so it's I mean I I do.
15:19:35 I do think that without without hearing that there's a problem, i'm a little reluctant to to implement any mitigations right now.
15:19:47 And not that you wait until it becomes, you know, a raging fire.
15:19:52 But it just seems like the the protections we put in place in termsally. seems to be working. Yeah.
15:19:57 And then Dr. Barry talked about the therapeutics that if you start taking them within a number of days of symptom, onset, that it dramatically reduces a severity of whatever
symptoms you you
15:20:13 demonstrate. so, and I think greg you're right that fatigue. it's just overtaken people, and they're done.
15:20:24 Lot of them are done. Of course the fact that we have nobody in the room I mean.
15:20:30 I think there's been the silver lining is that accessibility has been increased by the virtual meeting, and the hybrid continues so you know, we're holding on to the the positive
part and and but but
15:20:41 still able to have more natural conversations when we're in the same room.
15:20:46 Yeah more spontaneous. I did hear from Kara about the Straddarion meeting, and she and I are the only 2 confirmed to attend in person.
15:21:05 Yeah straight, straight, straight the straight ern lao a meeting on Friday. was gonna be our first in person meeting, and a long time.
15:21:08 So. but I think she's trying to grapple with if anyone else is thinking they're gonna show up so my panels.
15:21:18 Yes, so anyway, just you know. I just I I feel like we should check in about it every week, cause , with cases rising.
15:21:26 And it just It's a real thing you know and let's get Dr.
15:21:33 Barry make a recommendation to us we'd certainly want to take that very seriously.
15:21:39 But I have not heard that level of concern from her yet. and you know, perhaps, if we're starting to see an uptick in hospitalizations that will change. but i'm just not sure
the the data, supports it even
15:21:52 though, of course, you know cases rising seems to but that's a you know this is part of the endemic phase.
15:21:59 Right like cases can rise with so long as we're not seeing your disease. that's like becoming closer to something like the cold or flu, which we manage right?
15:22:13 Okay, it's good to check in though I think it should be a regular check.
15:22:16 Yeah. on here. And are you? Are you still doing the policy management group?
15:22:23 Mark and Kate. Yes, we we haven't for a few weeks.
15:22:28 But again, just not really items to discuss you know it it is alarming how much case it's been up.
15:22:35 But it hasn't triggered a need to you know.
15:22:39 Consider any policy considerations at this point. So a bit of a holding pattern.
15:22:47 Okay, I think it's funny that we have an item called most miscellaneous items.
15:22:54 Does anyone have any miscellaneous items? Oh, I have one calendar thing.
15:23:02 Okay,
15:23:07 I believe, is only in person in Tacoma, at least, I have not seen a virtual invite.
15:23:14 I could potentially both go I have meetings before and after it'll be a challenge to be there in person unless I had some place I could go do another meeting.
15:23:27 You know i've i'm i'm just wondering how we should represent there.
15:23:33 Alright, that's the 11 not this coming week but the following week, so we don't have to answer this right now.
15:23:38 But do you have a preference? and I think i'm just always added like express interest in it, as a backup.
15:23:50 So I am available to go, and I have a gap a small game where I could drive there and back.
15:24:03 But we can play it by ear you can see how you're Calendar shakes out over the next. Okay, and i'm happy to step in.
15:24:14 Sounds good. i'll i'll plan on it and keep in with great Yeah, I think all it seems like cause I get those emails, too.
15:24:25 So I wonder if they they tend to just keep all the commissioners on the caucus included.
15:24:32 But not just the representative. that would make sense
15:24:41 Okay, any other calendar items that we didn't cover this morning, or just count.
15:24:48 We're gonna be done early today. any future agenda items other than Ict.
15:24:56 That we want to cover today. anything that anyone wants to bring on to the agenda I know marked talk this morning about workshops, and he and I have looked at and kind of checked
in with you guys about the priority
15:25:07 workshops. So he's gonna take another pass at that list, and I think I had a couple of pieces of homework from that list.
15:25:16 As well. but we just like to get I mean the only one I'm focused on right now is may sixteenth and then be reality sorts Follow up workshop.
15:25:29 Big one. I will say that I did hear from Dnr that if we were to want to I maybe I already said this out loud in one of these meetings, but if we were to want to request reconvenience
2 things one they would want to know by the
15:25:42 first of June ideally. so. they stopped working on that timber sale and 2.
15:25:49 They are interested in being compensated for any sale prep work they've done in the past for that timber sale, and apparently there was a timber sale called silent alder.
15:26:00 That was done about 10 years ago, near Gibbs Lake, where the county did compensate Dnr.
15:26:07 For some of its prep work for that timber sale I haven't gotten a sense of how much that was yet. but I think the timber sale just yesterday, so that will be part of the discussion
and so far a drew
15:26:28 and Gordon from D. and I will be joining us for the workshop.
15:26:32 In addition to Mallory and Stacy, Stacy Pry to Mallory, our forester, and Catherine Copis, the ecologist, and Mary Jean Ryan. she's been helping with a lot of the
15:26:47 carbon assessment work, and Mallory and I are working on some sustainable harvest scenarios that if the county was to request reconvenience, what would our sustainable harvest
program look
15:27:02 for look like for that those kinds of units, because in that, in the spirit of generating revenue for the junior taxing districts.
15:27:13 And my first look at the just potential distribution in junior taxing districts.
15:27:19 It does impact some junior tax taxing districts quite significantly.
15:27:23 And is it interesting also, that stacey did a 5 year look back, And you know it's pretty spotty like there'll be these big landslides of funding that come into one junior taxing,
district but not much to any of
15:27:37 the others, or it just really depends on where those trees are.
15:27:42 And the different ratios that are defined by the different junior taxing district scenarios where you reach out to the junior taxing districts impacted by the Beaver Valley
source.
15:27:55 I have been working with the school that Shimmingham school district a lot and bread black is now back from
15:28:03 His vacation, and i'm meeting with him on thursday to start the Fire District conversation, cause they oversee Port leto, and I want to start with him, and then see where we
go from there.
15:28:14 So. Yes, but also a lot of the funding comes to the county.
15:28:18 Yeah, roads. Yeah, and I don't know how we've dealt with that.
15:28:25 Those windfalls of revenue in the past for roads just by maybe just put it in the roads account.
15:28:30 But i'm imagining that's what monty's going to say when I when i'm going i'm going to ask him.
15:28:35 But but
15:28:41 Yeah libraries and other ones that I think the third biggest during Jackson district.
15:28:50 So on the that's my work on workshops right now. but I know that mark's got a number that he's working on and
15:28:57 So we'll have more information probably next week .
15:29:00 About works a schedule of workshops yeah Yeah, I heard from Willie today. I just kind of incorporate what I got from Brent Willie into the into the spreadsheet and i'll share
that with the
15:29:10 board quickly awesome. I mean another thing that this is a big, bigger conversation, I think, but is strategic planning.
15:29:21 There's you know we had that I was I was in my lazy girl chair with my leg broken.
15:29:26 When we did that meeting that all day meeting with all the department heads. So I'm just wondering if there's any appetite for doing countywide strategic planning and if I don't
know in your time here
15:29:42 Gregor. Kate, if you undertaken any kind of strategic planning or Nova counties who had successful strategic planning processes, I mean, I can ask Wazack.
15:29:53 But it was on the work plan last year, and and brought brought over to this year, I mean, I can't plan.
15:30:03 But you know, you and I had talked about doing that in conjunction with the 20 2425 budget, , cycle to try to synchronize the strategic plan with budget priorities , so
15:30:19 in a dance of that that would be good to Yep and do an Rfp.
15:30:21 And maybe get a consultant in to help with that So I don't know what you guys think of that that idea, but it seems like it makes sense to have the strategic plan aligned.
15:30:35 With a budget setting process. Yeah, we did The last one we did, I think, was 2017 and it was I think it was helpful.
15:30:45 I got the elected injectors on the same page.
15:30:49 I think right now. we're being driven much more. by project work. which is great because that in 2,017 it was all conceptual. So we didn't have any funding, and now we actually
have some funding,
15:31:00 and are getting projects done and and then it feels a little harder because we're kind of mid you know midstream with with some projects.
15:31:10 So. I I think it's valuable the yeah, we are.
15:31:18 I think of how how we might phase the timing.
15:31:21 I agree. Budget is an important part of that but i'm just thinking, you know.
15:31:25 So we know we have a few year horizon now, if funding available from the Federal Government.
15:31:32 So this the planning we're doing with the icg is is somewhat strategic planning.
15:31:37 Loosely or at large yeah it's it's funny timing, because we have this we have funding coming, and we also have a ton of economic uncertainty.
15:31:47 So. so it's a little hard hard to set strategy given those 2 competing factors .
15:31:59 Give some thought to it, maybe coming out of the Icg meeting, we can move back on this topic, and because it seems like some, you know, once we know what our shared priorities
are, or you know, have a path to getting to share priorities it might
15:32:14 be good to think about. Then how what's our planning process for implementing those shared priorities.
15:32:20 Yup, and that might looks something like a strategic planning process.
15:32:27 Yeah, Good:
15:32:34 Well, I don't have anything else that was my miscellaneous agenda.
15:32:39 I know there was a meaty one, Caroline.
15:32:45 You got anything made me think of us. I don't. I think we can check out this meeting for the .
15:32:51 Okay, i'm wondering if I but I I have often have trouble sharing my screen.
15:32:59 Darn it, I'm on Miam personal laptop. Just gonna see if I could share that just quickly. walk through the data I collected for the Usda meeting last week. You know.
15:33:14 Shares, Grant, the bottom of your zoom screen I do. But there's some like plugin thing or something on the with a new laptop, and for some reason it will not it doesn't it just
pulls
15:33:26 up if I hit share screen and give you the email email to me.
15:33:33 And I could share. Yeah, should we do that sounds good .
15:33:37 Okay, I mean it's none of it is earth shattering It's just
15:33:41 I think I don't know I always appreciate having all current data in one place.
15:33:48 And it won't be current for long so might as well share it while we have it
15:34:00 Greg. it's gonna send to you and it's coming from my personal email account.
15:34:05 Okay, you see it. So maybe you don't recognize
15:34:21 Refreshment, and it's it is kind of a big documents,
15:34:42 On your joke while we wait. Yes, of course time flies like an arrow.
15:34:49 Fruit flies like a banana
15:34:58 That's pretty bad greg
15:35:05 Gotcha. but it was The delay was enough.
15:35:09 Hold on i'm getting feedback it's the volume lot Again, the door partly cracks
15:35:26 Yeah, I mean it. It can be closed it's only open and crack!
15:35:34 I'm gonna share my screen, Maybe that's a vote for virtual meetings again.
15:35:42 They got used to it. that's the that we don't wanna alright. can you see that alright Let me find the Oh, my other screens are covering the presentation thing here over there,
Alright, there, We go
15:36:02 alright, then go into the next one. So we will email this.
15:36:12 Well, I guess greatly. You email us to me. Thank you.
15:36:17 So you know, can amount surprisingly rural areas.
15:36:21 This is. these are the very current unemployment numbers.
15:36:23 Rural areas, still experiencing higher unemployment on the left there than the I. 5 corridor.
15:36:31 And I think the interesting data on the right is that we're seeing, and we're now in a multi-month trend.
15:36:42 And and it has continued into 2022 of unemployment increasing in Jefferson County.
15:36:47 So. not not headed in the right direction. I can I?
15:36:53 You explain that a little bit, because each each each year would start again at the beginning, right?
15:36:59 So at the end of 21 it was way down below 6 and then it's starting to creep up again.
15:37:07 Is that correct? What are the years I can't ? I can't read the years that was the call the 2,019 Okay, I'm sorry i'm not sure what you're what you're asking me
15:37:22 to explain Oh, i'm just you know I I take the blue line to the to the far right, and then I go back over to Green, and it does look like it.
15:37:36 Jibes. i'm just it was an optical solution I think, Yeah, yeah,
15:37:46 So you know I i'm not gonna draw any conclusions, but just a good good to be aware that we're seeing a an increase in that unemployment.
15:37:57 Next slide. you know, just across the board we're about 20% lower and wages median income population growth.
15:38:10 Absolutely 1 20% lower in population growth. So basically not not seeing a lot of the kind of advancements that other parts of the State are seeing terms of wages.
15:38:26 And you know, of course, change in population, resulting in ability of revenues to increase for county government as well.
15:38:36 So I included that one. So what we know, you know, oldest county in the State, and then we are having very few babies.
15:38:49 Here are we the lowest birth birth rate, count by county.
15:38:55 You find in this data set? if that was you know if these were the lowest counties.
15:39:02 It's a funny they they pick the like they they they take your county demographic.
15:39:09 It's in city data it's called it's just one sorting tool for our census data, and actually it compiles a number of different data sources.
15:39:19 But it it ranks it but it doesn't tell you if that means it is the lowest or not i'm sure it's somewhere in that, you know, if you really got into the data.
15:39:29 Set. but I couldn't tell but it is you know the counties that we are comparable to in many ways made all of our neighboring counties.
15:39:36 The state the Us. you know we are significantly lower than all of them.
15:39:43 And this doesn't necessarily mean born at the hospital since I believe they shut down.
15:39:51 That will be gym facility, right
15:39:58 But they're they're experiencing a massive drop
15:40:02 But no, this is all births of our residents
15:40:09 But we're seeing you know steady population growth nothing significant looks like that.
15:40:15 Alright,
15:40:18 That trend lines that goes to 2020 so that trend line is is increasing maybe a little bit.
15:40:27 A little bit faster these days. Actually, I think 2020 is the a gray line that you see coming down vertically, and then 2021.
15:40:36 Is that that little section to the right of the the gray line.
15:40:41 So you know maybe soon to say if that's much of an increase here.
15:40:45 We average about 1% a year. But so even though you know so that that migration is is
15:40:52 It's it's in migration that is creating that population growth when we should be seeing a lot in population being both the oldest population, and having very few births replaced
them so so it's we know that
15:41:05 it's retirees moving here and again, compared to all of our neighboring counties, and the State and the Us.
15:41:17 The highest, you know, very high percentage of households with retirement income.
15:41:24 So here's housing costs this is port towns and data last month, Median home pride support town's end 557,000 you know.
15:41:38 Steady, steep increase. since 20, early 2021, and then rental cost for a one bedroom again.
15:41:47 This is port towns and data. was over $1,500 a month for one bedroom.
15:41:54 Those custody increasing. these are. This is slightly older data on the left here.
15:42:01 Home homelessness increased by 80%. from 2,006 to 2015 that I couldn't find that data updated anywhere. but i'm sure it exists somewhere.
15:42:16 And then this is relatively reset. Yeah, yeah. in Western Washington, 6% of our our Jefferson County population under 1818 years of age.
15:42:35 Living in poverty. And then the income inequality growing pretty rapidly at this is this only goes to 2020.
15:42:46 Is that Federal Reserve Bank economic data? They have a rate that
15:42:55 All jurisdictions are can be comparative.
15:42:57 You know, lowest income earners to highest income earners.
15:43:02 And ours is steadily on the rise, as we know.
15:43:08 So just then featured some of the projects We're working on you got a little headshot there, Greg
15:43:22 Some. This is really just calling out the partnerships that we're trying to to create for
15:43:31 You know our our commitment to increasing the health and vitality, both economically and environmentally and socially their partner jurisdictions.
15:43:41 So that was all That's great good data thanks for for sharing that. sure.
15:43:46 Yeah, I'm. depressed all of a sudden bad note to leave on?
15:43:56 Did you read the analysis in the New York Times this weekend about the spread of inequality with home ownership and Renter Richards?
15:44:06 It, I mean if you have any home you've got a like Some people are getting, you know, developing generational wealth.
15:44:13 That haven't had it before but the the gap between renters and any home ownership is spreading much quicker, cause is that that one slide that you showed with the rental increase
in port towns and you know I think
15:44:26 that's happening everywhere, as the supply of the housing supply is so far behind the demand.
15:44:33 It's just yeah it's it's a real frustrating situation right now. and I don't know what to do about it.
15:44:41 Yeah. if you buy home, you you sort of freeze your rent payment I mean, because you got a 30 year mortgage.
15:44:48 You your payment stays the same the entire 30 years, whereas rental continue to go up right, and you're not pouring your rent into someone else's bank account but just the valuation
increase in
15:45:01 the last couple of years has been huge
15:45:11 Well, that is not a cherry note but reality what's real Well, is there anything else that we wanna discuss today?
15:45:27 I'm not hearing any buddy champion at the bit, so I will adjourn our meeting at 345 for May second, 2022 of the Jefferson county board of commissioners and