HomeMy WebLinkAboutstamped_033 Emails within CountyFrom:Shannen Cartmel
To:Phil Cecere
Subject:RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
Date:Monday, June 7, 2021 7:24:02 AM
Attachments:image001.png
Did you get a chance to answer these questions?
Respectfully,
Shannen Cartmel
Lead Associate Planner
Jefferson County Community Development
scartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us
360-379-4454
EFFECTIVE TUESDAY 7/1/2021 DCD WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. M-Th 9:00-12:00 1:00-4:30
DCD will maintain limited customer interaction and recommends scheduling an appointment to meet with staff. DCD will
no longer be accepting building applications by drop off or mail, you must schedule an appointment with front staff to
submit. A mask and social distancing is required.
Please visit our website https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/dcd to see how we can best serve you during this time.
Email: dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us
Phone: 360-379-4450
Mail: 621 Sheridan St.; Port Townsend, WA 98368
From: Shannen Cartmel
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 8:50 PM
To: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>; John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Cc: Phil Cecere <PCecere@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
Tori,
Sounds great. Our new plans examiner has been assigned to review these questions! I have cc’d him on this email. Once he
spends the time researching, we will send over an invoice to account for the review time.
I am here if you have any questions throughout this process and I will do my best to get you timely and accurate answers.
I hope you have a good night.
Respectfully,
Shannen Cartmel
Lead Associate Planner
Jefferson County Community Development
scartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us
360-379-4454
EFFECTIVE TUESDAY 6/1/2021 DCD WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. M-Th 9:00-12:00 1:00-4:30
DCD will maintain limited customer interaction and recommends scheduling an appointment to meet with staff. DCD will
no longer be accepting building applications by drop off or mail, you must schedule an appointment with front staff to
submit. A mask and social distancing is required.
Please visit our website https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/dcd to see how we can best serve you during this time.
Email: dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us
Phone: 360-379-4450
Exhibit 33 - Page 1 of 26
Mail: 621 Sheridan St.; Port Townsend, WA 98368
From: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 12:30 PM
To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>; John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
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Hi Shannen, We approve hourly charges to answer these important building code questions. Thank you for flagging that for us. Also, I want to let you know that we are so pleased to be working with you on this project. You have already providedus so much information that we feel comforted knowing that we are covering all bases. Best regards, Tori Masterson, Architect
HOEDEMAKER PFEIFFER LLC
6113 13th Avenue South, Seattle, Washington 98108
206.545.8434 c.206.354.2619
www.hoedemakerpfeiffer.com
From: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 3:40 PM
To: John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Cc: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
John,
I have forwarded these on to the plans examiner. I will let you know when I hear back. These questions may take substantial
time and hourly charge to answer.
Respectfully,
Shannen Cartmel
Lead Associate Planner
Jefferson County Community Development
scartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us
360-379-4454
EFFECTIVE TUESDAY 6/1/2021 DCD WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. M-Th 9:00-4:30
DCD will maintain limited customer interaction and recommends scheduling an appointment to meet with staff. DCD will
no longer be accepting building applications by drop off or mail, you must schedule an appointment with front staff to
submit. A mask and social distancing is required.
Please visit our website https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/dcd to see how we can best serve you during this time.
Email: dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us
Phone: 360-379-4450
Mail: 621 Sheridan St.; Port Townsend, WA 98368
From: John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 1:43 PM
Exhibit 33 - Page 2 of 26
To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Cc: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
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Hi Shannen, Thanks for sending that report over. We are still waiting for some answers about accessibility and building code. Ihave extracted out the relevant sheets from the diagrams we referenced in our meeting and have reattached themhere. I have also listed our questions below. These questions will have a big impact on our plans moving forward sowe would love to have a firm understanding of what will be required of us.
a. What triggers updates to code?
i. Doors – IBC requires 32” clear opening. Do all doors need to be upgraded to meet code? Whatchanges trigger this requirement to be met in existing buildings/spaces?
1. Door clearances
2. In non-designated ADA accessible units, do doors need to adhere to push/pull clearances?
ii. Are non-conforming stairs (cabin 1) grandfathered in?
1. What renovations would trigger stairs to be upgraded to meet code?
iii. Head height
1. IBC requires 7’-6” min head height; IEBC requires 7’-0” min head height for new habitablespace
a. new bedrooms under existing roofs
b. proposed shower (cabin 10)
Thanks!John Sampson
HOEDEMAKER PFEIFFER LLC
6113 13th Avenue South, Seattle, Washington 98108
206.545.8434 c. 509.551.6647
www.hoedemakerpfeiffer.com
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From: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 11:36 AM
To: John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Cc: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
John,
Please see the attached document. I apologize for not sending it!
Respectfully,
Shannen Cartmel
Lead Associate Planner
Jefferson County Community Development
scartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us
360-379-4454
EFFECTIVE TUESDAY 6/1/2021 DCD WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. M-Th 9:00-4:30
DCD will maintain limited customer interaction and recommends scheduling an appointment to meet with staff. DCD will
no longer be accepting building applications by drop off or mail, you must schedule an appointment with front staff to
Exhibit 33 - Page 3 of 26
submit. A mask and social distancing is required.
Please visit our website https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/dcd to see how we can best serve you during this time.
Email: dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us
Phone: 360-379-4450
Mail: 621 Sheridan St.; Port Townsend, WA 98368
From: John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 11:11 AM
To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Cc: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
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Hi Shannen, Just wanted to follow up and see if you are able to send that final report over to us. Thanks! John Sampson
HOEDEMAKER PFEIFFER LLC
6113 13th Avenue South, Seattle, Washington 98108
206.545.8434 c. 509.551.6647
www.hoedemakerpfeiffer.com
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From: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 4:21 PM
To: John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Cc: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
John,
The DAHP (archaeological zones are protected, so you can’t access them. Below is a screenshot of the highlights without a
legend. The print of the seismic hazard is attached. I will be editing the notes and providing a final copy this week.
Exhibit 33 - Page 4 of 26
Respectfully,
Shannen Cartmel
Lead Associate Planner
Jefferson County Community Development
scartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us
360-379-4454
From: John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 3:39 PM
To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Cc: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Subject: Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
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Hi Shannen, Thanks again for taking the time on Thursday to discuss the project and our permitting needs. Can you send us themaps that show the archaeological zone and the seismic hazard zone? We haven’t been able to find those layers on theGIS. Thanks!John Sampson
HOEDEMAKER PFEIFFER LLC
6113 13th Avenue South, Seattle, Washington 98108
206.545.8434 c. 509.551.6647
www.hoedemakerpfeiffer.com
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From:David W. Johnson
To:Shannen Cartmel
Subject:RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
Date:Friday, July 2, 2021 9:32:49 AM
Thanks!
From: Shannen Cartmel
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 9:00 AM
To: David W. Johnson <djohnson@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
Thank you. The pre-app notes are in G under PRE2021-00010 if you want the fees have already been
calculated. This is a multi-permit process and will have an SDP and a ZON.
Respectfully,
Shannen Cartmel
Lead Associate Planner
Jefferson County Community Development
scartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us
360-379-4454
EFFECTIVE TUESDAY 7/1/2021 DCD WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. M-Th 9:00-12:00 1:00-4:30
DCD will maintain limited customer interaction and recommends scheduling an appointment to
meet with staff. DCD will no longer be accepting building applications by drop off or mail, you
must schedule an appointment with front staff to submit. A mask and social distancing is
required.
Please visit our website https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/dcd to see how we can best serve you
during this time.
Email: dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us
Phone: 360-379-4450
Mail: 621 Sheridan St.; Port Townsend, WA 98368
From: David W. Johnson
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 8:57 AM
To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Cc: john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com; tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
Correct. Email their application materials directly to me. We will let them know if we need anything
Exhibit 33 - Page 7 of 26
else, and I will invoice them for the fees.
From: Shannen Cartmel
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 8:53 AM
To: David W. Johnson <djohnson@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: FW: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
For land use submittals, you don’t need a meeting still correct? They have already completed a pre-
app. This is a case I know I would be taking on, it was assigned to me by Austin.
From: John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 2:45 PM
To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Cc: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>; David W. Johnson
<djohnson@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
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Hi Shannen, In anticipation of our permit submittals, do we need to set up a meeting with the county or dowe simply email the applications and supporting documents? Thanks,John Sampson John Sampson
HOEDEMAKER PFEIFFER LLC
6113 13th Avenue South, Seattle, Washington 98108
206.545.8434 c. 509.551.6647
www.hoedemakerpfeiffer.com
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From: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 7:44 AM
To: John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Cc: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>; andrew nordstrom
<andrewlnordstrom@gmail.com>; David W. Johnson <djohnson@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
Exhibit 33 - Page 8 of 26
Good morning John,
Please see the answers below.
1. One application is preferable.
2. Once the application is noticed to the public, this would be the time to have the community
members comment. This comment period is for support, concerns, and other comments.
They can also take part in the public hearing and make comments during the hearing if
desired. No particular format is required, just make sure the case numbers (that will be
assigned at the date of application) are included in each letter. These can be submitted via
email or written letter.
3. The permitting pathway depends on the required location of the trenches and different
utilities. If the move is waterward it would be a shoreline variance, if the move is lateral or
landward it would be a shoreline discretionary conditional use. It is possible, that this
application might not be exempt from a shoreline substantial development permit (SSDP) as
well. The SSDP would be a decision by the Jefferson County Hearing Examiner. The variance
would also be the preliminary decision by the Jefferson County Hearing Examiner and then
forwarded to the Department of Ecology (ECY) for final approval. The shoreline conditional
use permit would likely be a preliminary decision by the UDC Administrator, however, it has a
chance to be kicked to hearing, and then final approval by ECY. This process can be combined
with the zoning approvals as well, this part of the decision would just go to ECY for final
approval. But we can bring the entire proposal under one notice and one hearing if desired.
The timeline would likely be the same as discussed in pre-app. At minimum 6 months but more likely
closer to a year. The only exception is that beyond this, you would need to wait for ECY decision and
appeal periods for the shoreline projects.
I would also like to make note that the shoreline code is going through a periodic update that should
be adopted within the next few months. This might change some of the processes, but I doubt it will
substantially change the general path forward, but I will make sure to keep you informed as you go
through the process.
Respectfully,
Shannen Cartmel
Lead Associate Planner
Jefferson County Community Development
scartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us
360-379-4454
EFFECTIVE TUESDAY 7/1/2021 DCD WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. M-Th 9:00-12:00 1:00-4:30
DCD will maintain limited customer interaction and recommends scheduling an appointment to
meet with staff. DCD will no longer be accepting building applications by drop off or mail, you
must schedule an appointment with front staff to submit. A mask and social distancing is
required.
Exhibit 33 - Page 9 of 26
Please visit our website https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/dcd to see how we can best serve you
during this time.
Email: dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us
Phone: 360-379-4450
Mail: 621 Sheridan St.; Port Townsend, WA 98368
From: John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 6:24 PM
To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Cc: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>; andrew nordstrom
<andrewlnordstrom@gmail.com>
Subject: Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
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Hi Shannen, As we dig further into our permitting pathways, we have come up with a few questions weare looking for some guidance on.
1. The variance application asks from which standards we are asking for a variance –
would the county prefer we combine all variances we are requesting into one
application or separate each variance request into its own application?
2. Andy has been interacting with neighbors and the general community more and more
since he purchased the property and has been garnering a great deal of community
support around the project. What is the process to include letters of support from
community members in the permitting process? Should these be included at the time
of conditional use permit submittal or is there a more appropriate time? Is there an
appropriate format/form that these letters should take?
3. What is the appropriate pathway for permitting approval for trenching within the
shoreline buffer? We are required to decommission the wells that currently provide
water and connect the site to county water supplies. We are also connecting all cabins
to a new septic system that is capable of handling the site’s capacity. This is all
required work and will obviously require trenching to accomplish. We are unclear
what permitting pathway this approval needs to take and the timeframe around it.
Thanks!John Sampson
HOEDEMAKER PFEIFFER LLC
6113 13th Avenue South, Seattle, Washington 98108
206.545.8434 c. 509.551.6647
www.hoedemakerpfeiffer.com
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Exhibit 33 - Page 10 of 26
From:David W. Johnson
To:Shannen Cartmel
Cc:David W. Johnson
Subject:RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
Date:Monday, August 9, 2021 2:24:46 PM
Attachments:image001.png
Shannen,
Would you be willing to setup this case? It’s so complex that I think it make the most sense for you to do it. The
documents are here:
The MLA# is MLA21-00080. Once fees are in, invoice the applicant.
Let me know if you need help with this.
Thanks!
From: Shannen Cartmel
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 9:00 AM
To: David W. Johnson <djohnson@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
Thank you. The pre-app notes are in G under PRE2021-00010 if you want the fees have already been calculated. This is a
multi-permit process and will have an SDP and a ZON.
Respectfully,
Shannen Cartmel
Lead Associate Planner
Jefferson County Community Development
scartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us
360-379-4454
EFFECTIVE TUESDAY 7/1/2021 DCD WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. M-Th 9:00-12:00 1:00-4:30
DCD will maintain limited customer interaction and recommends scheduling an appointment to meet with staff.
DCD will no longer be accepting building applications by drop off or mail, you must schedule an appointment with
front staff to submit. A mask and social distancing is required.
Please visit our website https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/dcd to see how we can best serve you during this time.
Email: dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us
Phone: 360-379-4450
Mail: 621 Sheridan St.; Port Townsend, WA 98368
Exhibit 33 - Page 11 of 26
From: David W. Johnson
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 8:57 AM
To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Cc: john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com; tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
Correct. Email their application materials directly to me. We will let them know if we need anything else, and I will invoice
them for the fees.
From: Shannen Cartmel
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 8:53 AM
To: David W. Johnson <djohnson@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: FW: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
For land use submittals, you don’t need a meeting still correct? They have already completed a pre-app. This is a case I
know I would be taking on, it was assigned to me by Austin.
From: John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 2:45 PM
To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Cc: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>; David W. Johnson <djohnson@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
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Hi Shannen, In anticipation of our permit submittals, do we need to set up a meeting with the county or do we simply emailthe applications and supporting documents? Thanks,John Sampson John Sampson
HOEDEMAKER PFEIFFER LLC
6113 13th Avenue South, Seattle, Washington 98108
206.545.8434 c. 509.551.6647
www.hoedemakerpfeiffer.com
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From: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 7:44 AM
To: John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Cc: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>; andrew nordstrom <andrewlnordstrom@gmail.com>; David W.
Johnson <djohnson@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: RE: [External] Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
Good morning John,
Please see the answers below.
Exhibit 33 - Page 12 of 26
1. One application is preferable.
2. Once the application is noticed to the public, this would be the time to have the community members comment.
This comment period is for support, concerns, and other comments. They can also take part in the public hearing
and make comments during the hearing if desired. No particular format is required, just make sure the case
numbers (that will be assigned at the date of application) are included in each letter. These can be submitted via
email or written letter.
3. The permitting pathway depends on the required location of the trenches and different utilities. If the move is
waterward it would be a shoreline variance, if the move is lateral or landward it would be a shoreline discretionary
conditional use. It is possible, that this application might not be exempt from a shoreline substantial development
permit (SSDP) as well. The SSDP would be a decision by the Jefferson County Hearing Examiner. The variance would
also be the preliminary decision by the Jefferson County Hearing Examiner and then forwarded to the Department
of Ecology (ECY) for final approval. The shoreline conditional use permit would likely be a preliminary decision by
the UDC Administrator, however, it has a chance to be kicked to hearing, and then final approval by ECY. This
process can be combined with the zoning approvals as well, this part of the decision would just go to ECY for final
approval. But we can bring the entire proposal under one notice and one hearing if desired.
The timeline would likely be the same as discussed in pre-app. At minimum 6 months but more likely closer to a year. The
only exception is that beyond this, you would need to wait for ECY decision and appeal periods for the shoreline projects.
I would also like to make note that the shoreline code is going through a periodic update that should be adopted within
the next few months. This might change some of the processes, but I doubt it will substantially change the general path
forward, but I will make sure to keep you informed as you go through the process.
Respectfully,
Shannen Cartmel
Lead Associate Planner
Jefferson County Community Development
scartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us
360-379-4454
EFFECTIVE TUESDAY 7/1/2021 DCD WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. M-Th 9:00-12:00 1:00-4:30
DCD will maintain limited customer interaction and recommends scheduling an appointment to meet with staff.
DCD will no longer be accepting building applications by drop off or mail, you must schedule an appointment with
front staff to submit. A mask and social distancing is required.
Please visit our website https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/dcd to see how we can best serve you during this time.
Email: dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us
Phone: 360-379-4450
Mail: 621 Sheridan St.; Port Townsend, WA 98368
From: John Sampson <john@Hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 6:24 PM
To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Cc: Tori Masterson <tori@hoedemakerpfeiffer.com>; andrew nordstrom <andrewlnordstrom@gmail.com>
Subject: Marrowstone Inn - PRE2021-00010
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Hi Shannen, As we dig further into our permitting pathways, we have come up with a few questions we are looking for someguidance on.
Exhibit 33 - Page 13 of 26
1. The variance application asks from which standards we are asking for a variance – would the county prefer
we combine all variances we are requesting into one application or separate each variance request into its
own application?
2. Andy has been interacting with neighbors and the general community more and more since he purchased
the property and has been garnering a great deal of community support around the project. What is the
process to include letters of support from community members in the permitting process? Should these be
included at the time of conditional use permit submittal or is there a more appropriate time? Is there an
appropriate format/form that these letters should take?
3. What is the appropriate pathway for permitting approval for trenching within the shoreline buffer? We are
required to decommission the wells that currently provide water and connect the site to county water
supplies. We are also connecting all cabins to a new septic system that is capable of handling the site’s
capacity. This is all required work and will obviously require trenching to accomplish. We are unclear
what permitting pathway this approval needs to take and the timeframe around it.
Thanks!John Sampson
HOEDEMAKER PFEIFFER LLC
6113 13th Avenue South, Seattle, Washington 98108
206.545.8434 c. 509.551.6647
www.hoedemakerpfeiffer.com
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Exhibit 33 - Page 14 of 26
From:Helena Smith
To:Shannen Cartmel
Subject:FW: Sent from JC Community Development
Date:Monday, September 27, 2021 1:16:23 PM
Attachments:1397_001.pdf
Hi Shannen,
I think this public comment is for MLA21-00080. Please let me know if I should direct it elsewhere.
Thanks,
Helena
-----Original Message-----
From: Amanda Hunt
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 1:10 PM
To: Helena Smith <HSmith@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: FW: Sent from JC Community Development
Hi Helena,
I don’t think this scan was meant for me. Thanks!
Best,
Amanda H.
Amanda Hunt
Assistant Planner
ahunt@co.jefferson.wa.us
-----Original Message-----
From: CanonCopier
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 12:00 PM
To: Amanda Hunt <AHunt@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: Sent from JC Community Development
See the attachment.
Exhibit 33 - Page 15 of 26
From:DCD Front Staff
To:Shannen Cartmel
Subject:FW: MLA21-00080
Date:Thursday, October 7, 2021 9:58:57 AM
Attachments:MLA21-00080.Canterbury.docx
Hello Shannen,
We received a public comment about the Marrowstone Inn. Here it is for the project records.
From: Jackie Canterbury <jackie.canterbury@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 9:06 AM
To: DCD Front Staff <dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: MLA21-00080
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Please accept these comments. Thank-you
--
Dr. Jackie Canterbury
1640 E. Marrowstone Rd.
Nordland, Washington
98358
jackie.canterbury@gmail.com
307-763-1953
Exhibit 33 - Page 16 of 26
From:DCD Front Staff
To:Shannen Cartmel
Subject:RE: MLA21-00080
Date:Thursday, October 7, 2021 10:04:48 AM
Hi Shannen,
I have a follow-up question. We received a public comment in the office mail. It is in your inbox. I
also scanned it. Is there a folder in MLA21-00080 where I can save the scan?
Thank you,
Helena
From: DCD Front Staff
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 9:59 AM
To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: FW: MLA21-00080
Hello Shannen,
We received a public comment about the Marrowstone Inn. Here it is for the project records.
From: Jackie Canterbury <jackie.canterbury@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 9:06 AM
To: DCD Front Staff <dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: MLA21-00080
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opening attachments or clicking links, especially from unknown senders.
Please accept these comments. Thank-you
--
Dr. Jackie Canterbury
1640 E. Marrowstone Rd.
Nordland, Washington
98358
jackie.canterbury@gmail.com
307-763-1953
Exhibit 33 - Page 17 of 26
From:DCD Front Staff
To:Hope Borsato
Cc:Shannen Cartmel
Subject:RE: Can you direct me to where I might respond to a current permit in process
Date:Friday, October 8, 2021 9:28:13 AM
Good morning Ms. Borsato,
Thank you for commenting on the Marrowstone Inn project. Your comment has been added to the case file and will
be considered when reviewing the project.
Thank you,
Jefferson County
Dept. of Community Development
dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us
360-379-4450
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front staff to submit. A mask and social distancing is required.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Hope Borsato <hopeborsato@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 8:56 AM
To: DCD Front Staff <dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: Can you direct me to where I might respond to a current permit in process
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Hello.
Perhaps you could forward this to the correct department.
I am a resident of Marrowstone Island and would like to comment on the proposal of the Marrowstone Inn property.
I do feel that traffic and the road angle at the intersection needs to be addressed. Coming down the hill on Robbins
Road in a south direction, the corner is difficult to travel due to the dip in the right side of the road and how it is
banked. One must go out in the other lane ( oncoming traffic) in order to drive more than 5 mph. Looking into the
engineering if the current roadway is of concern even without more traffic in the future.
Thank you for addressing this concern.
Hope Borsato
Exhibit 33 - Page 18 of 26
872 East Marrowstone Rd
369.301.1350
Exhibit 33 - Page 19 of 26
From:Helena Smith
To:Shannen Cartmel
Subject:MLA21-00080 Public Comments Spreadsheet
Date:Friday, October 15, 2021 12:20:24 PM
Attachments:image001.png
Good afternoon Shannen,
The Public Comments folder for MLA21-00080 now includes an Excel spreadsheet with the
commenters’ names, addresses, and a summary of their comments. Here’s the file location:
G:\PermitCenter\2-Permits\MLA\MLA21-00080\Public Comments
I hope this is useful. Please let me know if I should format anything differently, or change the
amount of detail in the comment summary.
Best wishes,
Helena Smith, MPP
Planning Technican
Jefferson County Community Development
621 Sheridan St., Port Townsend, WA 98368
Mon-Thurs 9am - 4:30pm, closed from 12-1
Ph: 360-379-4484
http://www.co.jefferson.wa.us
DCD will maintain limited customer interaction and recommends scheduling an appointment to
meet with staff. DCD will no longer be accepting building applications by drop off or mail, you
must schedule an appointment with front staff to submit. A mask and social distancing is
required.
Please visit our website https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/dcd to see how we can best serve you
during this time.
Email: dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us
Phone: 360-379-4450
Mail: 621 Sheridan St.; Port Townsend, WA 98368
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Exhibit 33 - Page 20 of 26
From:Linda Atkins
To:Shannen Cartmel
Subject:MLA21-00080, ZON2021-00049, Marrowstone Inn
Date:Monday, October 25, 2021 12:18:59 PM
Shannen,
I would like to meet about the status and processing for this application. I see they have applied for
a variance re the density of use and ‘existing cabins’. What would be a good time for you? I could do
a goto meeting Tuesday any time and I am in the office Wed – Fri. I have time Thursday and Friday
afternoon.
I have a septic permit for review but don’t want to get ahead of things with any comments I have.
Thanks.
Linda Atkins, RS
Environmental Health Specialist 3
Jefferson County Environmental Public Health
360-385-9444
latkins@co.jefferson.wa.us
www.jeffersoncountypublichealth.org
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appointments. We thank you for your cooperation, and kindly ask that if you are sick, please refrain from scheduling an
appointment or cancel your existing one.
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Exhibit 33 - Page 21 of 26
From:Amanda Hunt
To:Shannen Cartmel
Subject:CRAB Mobility
Date:Wednesday, November 3, 2021 10:50:21 AM
Attachments:RE MLA21-00066 Pomona Woods LLC Notice of Application with SEPA Review.msg
*See SEPA Comments PDF in the attached email for an example of the Public Works Crab Mobility
Traffic Analysis*
Quick summary of previous phone call with John Fleming:
ITE: Appropriate for NEW transportation projects and road designs.
CRAB Mobility: Used to determine if proposed ADT (Average Daily Trips) will change the level
of service provided by the road. Public Works will review the road capacity of existing
structures.
John Fleming has been completing traffic review of projects for approximately 5 years.
Thanks!
Amanda Hunt
Assistant Planner
Jefferson County Community Development
Phone (Desk): 360-379-4458
Monday-Friday 8AM-4PM
ahunt@co.jefferson.wa.us
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DCD will maintain limited customer interaction and recommends scheduling an appointment to
meet with staff. DCD will no longer be accepting building applications by drop off or mail, you
must schedule an appointment with front staff to submit. A mask and social distancing is
required.
Please visit our website https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/dcd to see how we can best serve you
during this time.
Email: dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us
Phone: 360-379-4450
Mail: 621 Sheridan St.; Port Townsend, WA 98368
Exhibit 33 - Page 22 of 26
From:Helena Smith
To:Shannen Cartmel
Subject:RE: Info for Hearing Examiner Info
Date:Tuesday, February 15, 2022 12:52:59 PM
Attachments:image001.png
Hi Shannen,
Is there anyone other than the people listed in Tidemark who should be contacted about scheduling
this hearing? For example, is there a legal team I should contact? Was this case reviewed by other
county employees who will attend?
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
H Smith, MPP
Planning Technician
Jefferson County Community Development
Ph: 360-379-4484
DCD will maintain limited customer interaction and recommends scheduling an appointment to meet
with staff. DCD will no longer be accepting building applications by drop off or mail, you must
schedule an appointment with front staff to submit. A mask and social distancing is required.
Please visit our website https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/dcd to see how we can best serve you
during this time.
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From: Shannen Cartmel
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 2:30 PM
To: Helena Smith <HSmith@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: RE: Info for Hearing Examiner Info
MLA21-00080
(information is not ready) – this is a request to place hold this hearing via direction from Brent
Marrowstone Inn
Andrew Nordstrom “Extend Yourself LLC”
1420 5th Ave STE 4200
Seattle, WA 98101
April
Exhibit 33 - Page 23 of 26
Likely one hearing date
Respectfully,
Shannen Cartmel
Lead Associate Planner
Jefferson County Community Development
scartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us
360-379-4454
From: Helena Smith
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 1:11 PM
To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: Info for Hearing Examiner Info
Hi Shannen,
Thanks for telling me your applicants are ready to see the Hearing Examiner. Here’s the info I need:
MLA number
Documents for the Examiner (application, finding, appeal, etc.)
Applicant and their counsel’s names and contact info
Estimate of how long the hearing will last (do you expect multiple days of hearings, a pre-
hearing conference?)
Preferred month
Thanks for your time.
Best wishes,
Helena Smith, MPP
Planning Technician
Jefferson County Community Development
621 Sheridan St., Port Townsend, WA 98368
Mon-Thurs 9am - 4:30pm, closed from 12-1
Ph: 360-379-4484
http://www.co.jefferson.wa.us
DCD will maintain limited customer interaction and recommends scheduling an appointment to
meet with staff. DCD will no longer be accepting building applications by drop off or mail, you
must schedule an appointment with front staff to submit. A mask and social distancing is
required.
Please visit our website https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/dcd to see how we can best serve you
during this time.
Exhibit 33 - Page 24 of 26
Email: dcd@co.jefferson.wa.us
Phone: 360-379-4450
Mail: 621 Sheridan St.; Port Townsend, WA 98368
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Exhibit 33 - Page 25 of 26
From:Shannen Cartmel
To:Helena Smith
Subject:emails
Date:Monday, May 9, 2022 3:19:34 PM
Attachments:Re Marrowstone Inn Staff Report Draft.msg
Re Please publish notice of rescheduled hearing once in May 11 2022 paper.msg
Re Please publish notice of rescheduled hearing once in May 11 2022 paper.msg
Re Please publish notice of rescheduled hearing once in May 11 2022 paper.msg
Re Please publish notice of rescheduled hearing once in May 11 2022 paper.msg
Re MLA21-00080 Marrowstone Inn Staff Report _BBeditsv2.msg
MLA21-00080 Marrowstone Inn Staff Report _BBeditsv2.msg
Re Please publish notice of rescheduled hearing once in May 11 2022 paper.msg
RE Marrowstone Inn Hearing Reschedule.msg
RE External Marrowstone Inn Hearing Reschedule.msg
update - draft response.msg
Re Marrowstone Inn Hearing Reschedule.msg
FW WSRB Building Code Effectiveness Grading.msg
FW WSRB Building Code Effectiveness Grading.msg
comments - Marrowstone Inn.msg
RE Marrowstone Inn Hearing Reschedule.msg
Re Marrowstone Inn Hearing Reschedule.msg
Marrowstone Inn Hearing Reschedule.msg
Re Marrowstone Inn Hearing Reschedule.msg
UPDATE to Hearing Examiner Website.msg
Re SEPA Check In.msg
SEPA Check In.msg
RE Quick revision to Appendix E proposed expansions.msg
Re Please publish notice of rescheduled hearing in April 13 2022 paper.msg
Re MLA21-00080 Notice of Public Hearing Posting.msg
RE External MLA21-00080 Notice of Public Hearing Posting.msg
RE Traffic Review.msg
RE hearing.msg
RE hearing.msg
RE hearing.msg
RE External Scheduling Public Hearing for MLA21-00080 Marrowstone Inn Proposal.msg
RE External Scheduling Public Hearing for MLA21-00080 Marrowstone Inn Proposal.msg
RE emails.msg
RE Traffic Review.msg
Re Please Publish MLA21-00080 Notice of Hearing on April 6 2022.msg
Exhibit 33 - Page 26 of 26