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Home My WebLink Aboutstamped_038 Emails with Public Works - TrafficFrom:John Fleming To:Shannen Cartmel Subject:FW: GoToMeeting Invitation - Traffic Impact Studies/ CRAB Mobility Discussion Date:Thursday, November 4, 2021 10:58:22 AM Attachments:Stubbed Attachments.htm This message's contents have been archived by the Barracuda Message Archiver. JC Ordinance 04 0702 07.pdf (2.4M) JC Ordinance 08 0710 06 Attachment - Chapter 18 30 Development Stds.pdf (179.8K) JC Ordinance 08 0710 06.pdf (224.1K) Traffic Impact Analysis Checklist.pdf (125.6K) Hi Shannen: Regarding the “Traffic Impact Studies/ CRAB Mobility Discussion” Topics of Discussion: 1. When are Traffic Impact Analysis Reports required? The attached checklist is PW’s guide for when to request a TIA. Please see the first section “Traffic Impact Analysis (TIA) Required?” with thresholds for 5 characteristics checked. 2. When is CRAB Mobility analysis appropriate to be the only traffic analysis completed for a project? When the above TIA checklist’s 5 characteristics are below the thresholds given. 3. Safety vs Road Service Issues 4. Non-motorized transportation LOS 5. Transportation Section of Comprehensive Plan Relevant JCC chapter 18.30.020 (5) General Development Standards: (5) All land use activities shall be served by appropriate transportation facilities. Transportation facilities shall be adequate to meet the level of service standards adopted in the Jefferson County Comprehensive Plan and the appropriate design standards referenced in JCC 18.30.080(1)(a). If transportation facilities would become inadequate, the applicant shall be required to provide necessary improvements and/or implement alternative measures such as transportation demand management (TDM), project phasing, or other measures acceptable to Jefferson County that will maintain the adopted level of service standards and meet design standards. If transportation facilities are not adequate, Jefferson County shall not approve the proposed development. Transportation facilities shall be deemed adequate if necessary improvements are planned and designated funding is secured in the Jefferson County Six-Year Transportation Improvement Program. [Ord. 4-07 § 2; Ord. 8-06 § 1] I have attached the BOCC ordinances that helped shape the current Jefferson County Code, so you can see when “Level of Service “ made it into the code, as a threshold for acceptability for traffic on roads. Exhibit 38 - Page 1 of 6 Thank you, John -----Original Appointment----- From: John Fleming Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 3:33 PM To: Amanda Hunt Subject: Accepted: GoToMeeting Invitation - Traffic Impact Studies/ CRAB Mobility Discussion When: Monday, November 8, 2021 1:30 PM-2:00 PM (UTC-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada). Where: GTM Hi Amanda: I am assuming this is in response to the email I have sent you on 1. October 1, 2021 at 10:01 am regarding SEPA comments 2. October 21, 2021 at 3:30 pm regarding CRAB etc. 3. October 26, 2021 at 12:07 pm regarding pre-app comments for traffic If so, then I believe I am informed enough to participate in the meeting. If not, do you want to send more information to clarify what I will be contributing to the meeting? Thank you, John Exhibit 38 - Page 2 of 6 From:John Fleming To:Shannen Cartmel Subject:FW: Traffic Impact Study: Marrowstone Inn Date:Thursday, November 4, 2021 12:56:45 PM Attachments:Stubbed Attachments.htm This message's contents have been archived by the Barracuda Message Archiver. Jefferson Comp Plan 12-2018 Appendix C Transportation Tech Doc.pdf (4.0M) Traffic Impact Analysis 2021.pdf (125.6K) Hi Shannen: Applicant Andrew Nordstrom sent me this message, without copy to you. I have attached information that DCD can share with applicants regarding TIAs. Public Works does not make recommendations to applicants regarding who to hire for consulting engineering. Thank you, John All e-mail sent to this address has been received by the Jefferson County e-mail system and is therefore subject to the Public Records Act, a state law found at RCW 42.56. From: andrew nordstrom <andrewlnordstrom@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 11:49 AM To: John Fleming <JFleming@co.jefferson.wa.us> Subject: Traffic Impact Study: Marrowstone Inn ALERT: BE CAUTIOUS This email originated outside the organization. Do not open attachments or click on links if you are not expecting them. Dear John Fleming, Hope your having a good day. My name is Andy and I am the owner/operator of Marrowstone Inn located at 10 Beach Drive, Nordland WA. Our public comment period resulted in a couple requests for a traffic impact analysis (TIA). The next steps for the project is to have a TIA prepared. Exhibit 38 - Page 3 of 6 I am sure you are quite busy at the moment but wanted to reach out to you for further insight. Are there any third party engineers that the county recommends and preferred format of TIA? Thank you for your time and consideration. Regards, Andy Nordstrom Exhibit 38 - Page 4 of 6 From:John Fleming To:Brent Butler Cc:Amanda Hunt; Shannen Cartmel Subject:Traffic Impact Studies/ CRAB Mobility Discussion Date:Monday, November 8, 2021 2:47:25 PM Attachments:Stubbed Attachments.htm This message's contents have been archived by the Barracuda Message Archiver. JC Ordinance 04 0702 07.pdf (2.4M) JC Ordinance 08 0710 06 Attachment - Chapter 18 30 Development Stds.pdf (179.8K) JC Ordinance 08 0710 06.pdf (224.1K) Jefferson Comp Plan 12-2018 Appendix C Transportation Tech Doc.pdf (4.0M) Traffic Impact Analysis Checklist.pdf (125.6K) Hi Brent: Good to meet with you, Shannen and Amanda today. Please see below and attached for items I have shared with them recently. Sincerely, John Fleming PE Public Works Development Review Engineer ODT Project Manager 360-301-6563 cell 360-385-9217 desk 360-385-9160 main From: John Fleming Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 10:58 AM To: Shannen Cartmel <SCartmel@co.jefferson.wa.us> Subject: FW: GoToMeeting Invitation - Traffic Impact Studies/ CRAB Mobility Discussion Hi Shannen: Regarding the “Traffic Impact Studies/ CRAB Mobility Discussion” Topics of Discussion: 1. When are Traffic Impact Analysis Reports required? The attached checklist is PW’s guide for when to request a TIA. Please see the first section “Traffic Impact Analysis (TIA) Required?” with thresholds for 5 characteristics checked. 2. When is CRAB Mobility analysis appropriate to be the only traffic analysis completed for a project? When the above TIA checklist’s 5 characteristics are below the thresholds given. Exhibit 38 - Page 5 of 6 3. Safety vs Road Service Issues 4. Non-motorized transportation LOS 5. Transportation Section of Comprehensive Plan Relevant JCC chapter 18.30.020 (5) General Development Standards: (5) All land use activities shall be served by appropriate transportation facilities. Transportation facilities shall be adequate to meet the level of service standards adopted in the Jefferson County Comprehensive Plan and the appropriate design standards referenced in JCC 18.30.080(1)(a). If transportation facilities would become inadequate, the applicant shall be required to provide necessary improvements and/or implement alternative measures such as transportation demand management (TDM), project phasing, or other measures acceptable to Jefferson County that will maintain the adopted level of service standards and meet design standards. If transportation facilities are not adequate, Jefferson County shall not approve the proposed development. Transportation facilities shall be deemed adequate if necessary improvements are planned and designated funding is secured in the Jefferson County Six-Year Transportation Improvement Program. [Ord. 4-07 § 2; Ord. 8-06 § 1] I have attached the BOCC ordinances that helped shape the current Jefferson County Code, so you can see when “Level of Service “ made it into the code, as a threshold for acceptability for traffic on roads. Thank you, John -----Original Appointment----- From: John Fleming Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 3:33 PM To: Amanda Hunt Subject: Accepted: GoToMeeting Invitation - Traffic Impact Studies/ CRAB Mobility Discussion When: Monday, November 8, 2021 1:30 PM-2:00 PM (UTC-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada). Where: GTM Hi Amanda: I am assuming this is in response to the email I have sent you on 1. October 1, 2021 at 10:01 am regarding SEPA comments 2. October 21, 2021 at 3:30 pm regarding CRAB etc. 3. October 26, 2021 at 12:07 pm regarding pre-app comments for traffic If so, then I believe I am informed enough to participate in the meeting. If not, do you want to send more information to clarify what I will be contributing to the meeting? Thank you, John Exhibit 38 - Page 6 of 6