HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:06:09 work with you on what we can do. Thank you very much.
09:06:13 Bye. Thanks. thank you for your comments barbara i'll just say I felt my quick my entire time as a commissioner has been rushed every every Monday, every agenda item.
09:06:23 So I I respect your input and comments and we'll dig into that later.
09:06:30 Today. Is there anybody else who would like to make an a public comment at this time?
09:06:35 At the beginning of the meeting. if so use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen, or no eyes, or you can press Star 9 on the phone.
09:06:46 I see there's one phone number there so is there anyone else wishing to make public comment.
09:06:54 Okay, we will leave public comment open until 9 30 as we've come to do so.
09:07:03 If there's something that comes to you over the next 20Â min or so, please just raise your hand, and we'll we'll bring you over for public comment.
09:07:12 And then we'll make another call for public comment at the end of this time period.
09:07:18 Let's see. is there anything do we want to address Consent now, or we, and we also have a proclamation. Greg.
09:07:29 I saw your hand. Yeah, I just can't respond to the public comment, we and we we got a couple of written comments kind of to the same tune.
09:07:38 I've been corresponding with 50 santaug who I think, reached out to all of us originally.
09:07:41 I I think. they're i'm not sure i'm i'm going back and analyzing what came out of the planning commission, and then what we had I always like to see a red line, version.
09:07:51 But there was substantial changes, of course, to it. I think that I mean we really did have some urgency and getting it done before the other ordinance ended.
09:08:00 And I think there might be some process improvements that we should look at, so I guess I hear you
09:08:07 We're looking at it, and you know nothing that we have done cannot be modified.
09:08:10 Nothing cannot be modified without another public hearing. so we'll keep working to get it right.
09:08:18 And I i'm i'm concerned that maybe there were some some bigger changes that that we weren't aware of. that happened.
09:08:24 So hear your concerns address, looking at them right now. Great thanks, Greg.
09:08:29 I was that being the least close commissioner to this issue. I was reading and following and tracking, and I felt like I heard some big changes that were made, and I was like,
well have that happen.
09:08:43 So yeah, very interested to hear what comes and be part of it going forward.
09:08:51 Is there anyone on the line now I see if you'd be other people joined us who would like to make public comment this morning?
09:09:01 Carolyn, I see. Vicky raised her hand.
09:09:05 Bring it over as a panelist
09:09:11 Good morning, vicki you'll have you'll need to unmute, and you'll have 3Â min for public comment.
09:09:18 You're still muted, though
09:09:25 Okay, I should be on now. So thank you great for your consideration of the thinking that's been going on in our response to it.
09:09:35 And I join you today not to thank you, Commissioner, but to ask you what went wrong for over 2 years.
09:09:43 I, along with a good many community members, worked hard to engage in the writing of a temporary housing facilities.
09:09:51 Ordinance that we could be proud of last Monday at the point Hearing of the organ, we were shot both by the outcome and the hearing crosses today.
09:10:05 I'm here to talk to you about the process a detailed response with our substantive objections.
09:10:11 The to the ordinances past will be delivered.
09:10:15 Zoom. My understanding of the primary purpose of a public hearing is to obtain public testimony where comments from the public before significant decisions are made.
09:10:26 However, it is impossible to make informed comments when access to the documents without access to the documents being discussed.
09:10:37 I can assure you that if we have been able to recently access the draft ordinance to be voted on before the meeting started, there would have been detailed objections via others
what we thought we were commenting on was the
09:10:52 draft available for the May 23 workshop.
09:10:55 One significant question regarding the process is why the numerous changes in the final draft were made at the proverbial last moment, and we're not available at the bay.
09:11:09 Twenty-third voc workshop. Many of the new requirements in the final draft are entirely unreasonable in scope, and have never been publicly done.
09:11:19 It that's there is no public record of the need for these additional requirements, or any discussion of their impact on costs or effective service delivery.
09:11:32 Another significant process issue, resulting in at best of the very poor outcome, was the time pressure to pass the on There also appears to be substantial confusion about when
the public is allowed to comment during the hearing themselves and how to
09:11:51 process written comments. i'm not here today to question or judge anyone's intent.
09:11:56 I'm here to shine a lot on process with States made in passing in an ordinance that, in my opinion, serves our public interests on a vital issue.
09:12:11 Safety and secure housing for all. I am sure that you would agree that the outcomes are only as good as the process.
09:12:19 I would also remark that good process good governments by building the Public's trust in our elected officials and the county administrator staff.
09:12:32 Okay, i'm some i'm asking you to review the process of passing the temporary housing pidelos via organs, and determined that better outcomes could have been achieved including
facilitating public
09:12:47 engagement. Thank you for your comments. Vicki.
09:12:52 Is there anybody else on the line this morning who would like to make a public comment?
09:12:58 If so, you can use the raise hand button at the bottom of the zoom screen. And I think that one caller is our staff.
09:13:06 So not gonna talk about the phone option. Anybody wanting to make a public comment this morning.
09:13:13 Okay, great. Do you want to respond to that one? now? Sure. you know.
09:13:19 Thank you. Thank you, Vicki, and you know getting a process right is is a, you know, ongoing work.
09:13:25 You know it's never perfect, so we can always improve I would push back a little.
09:13:29 I think the the proposed ordinance was available.
09:13:33 I know ricky. had some trouble accessing it but it's the same places that all of our our files are, and we can make more links.
09:13:40 But you know whether you went through agendas and minutes or or videos of of meetings, you would get to that agenda item with the with the live links, the fact that it didn't
adequately show the
09:13:52 differences between the the planning commission draft and and the current one, I think, is a problem.
09:14:00 And I think there are reasons sometimes for you know, Staff, to make changes based on a workshop with us, or after the planning commission.
09:14:08 But after the planning commission, hearing the I guess the and it's it's judgment where where that balance where that balance is.
09:14:18 Whether it was an appropriate editing before that the public hearing.
09:14:23 I'm not sure what the questions about the access to deliberations.
09:14:27 I mean that public hearing usually is input from the from the public, and then we deliberate, and then we don't normally take.
09:14:35 Input again. I think the urgency, as I said before, of having to get that past pushed it through, and maybe we would have taken a little bit more time to discuss the differences.
09:14:46 But you know. We'll just keep keep working on it till we're gonna write always, always looking for feedback on how our processes can improve.
09:14:55 Thanks, Greg, and I saw that Kate had her hand up, and then she disappeared again.
09:14:58 So maybe she's having spotty cell phone connections this morning.
09:15:03 So when she comes back we'll give her time to comment,
09:15:13 Okay, so it sounds like there's some Oh, there she is Kate, Would you like to comment?
09:15:23 We see your hand race you're gonna need to unmute
09:15:31 Looks like you're on mute a can you hear me mail. right?
09:15:40 Yeah, Yeah. I just wanna say I I really appreciate the
09:15:42 The,
09:15:47 Can't remind folks that you know there. are a lot of different stakeholders that we listen to, and we don't let any one sense of interest our ordinances. so i'm i'm trying that
folks feel
09:15:58 that all of their input was not incorporated. But I feel like we went to great lengths and spent hours and hours last week, taking into consideration the the very concerns that
were brought up.
09:16:10 So understand and have that this is a good safe process that we go through as we try to strike a balance for a lot of different interests and needs.
09:16:21 And I think we did a pretty good job of that so really appreciate people's input and and hope that they feel heard ordinance to be portrayed as having been done summarily.
09:16:36 A lot of work went into a lot of consideration and I think it's a good piece of work that that has to balance a lot of critical information.
09:16:44 Thanks, Kate. Okay. So i'm not seeing any other hands raised in the zoom room.
09:16:52 So maybe we move on to consent. agenda. Is there anything that you wanna call out on the consent Agenda Greg or Kate?
09:17:03 I I am thrilled to see public health moving forward with 8 90.
09:17:11 All the old headlock road which is an issue that's been ongoing for decades, but there's some actual, some tangible steps being undertaken now.
09:17:19 And It's a That's a property adjacent to Timingham Creek and has been they're in the waters of Timicum Creek for decades so looking forward to seeing that process move
09:17:29 forward and some resolution to a long. thorn in my personal side, because it's right in my neighborhood, and I've heard a lot about it over the decades.
09:17:38 So appreciate environmental public health taking that on, And there are a number of other great items on the consent agenda.
09:17:48 Kate. you want to add something. Yeah, I just wanna play it's real to see both jump, and some people feel free moving forward.
09:17:57 Since then on our docket for a long time, and sounds like they are selling, you know, under construction.
09:18:04 Great was public works. One thing that this can send a agenda reminds me, is a lot of these projects.
09:18:10 Take time, and we hear about oh, some take a very long time but to get them to to proper resolution, I mean it takes a lot of steps and work and communication with the community.
09:18:23 And so i'm appreciative, of all of the effort of our staff just keeping the the train on the track and moving these things forward because it takes such kind of steady, consistent
focus and super appreciative of our team.
09:18:41 Okay, So do I have a motion to adopt the consent.
09:18:45 Agenda , I just echo complete streets, you know.
09:18:46 Lovely to see a moving forward I know there's been a lot of challenges.
09:18:49 That project actually is more than a decade old. So to see it inch it alone.
09:18:55 Yeah, but i'm i'm happy to move that we approve and adopt the consent agenda as presented today, and i'll second that I wasn't sorry you were second it moved and seconded all
09:19:08 in favor. Alright, hi! aye, great thanks, Kate.
09:19:16 Okay, so let's see it's 9 19 i'll put another call out for public comment is there anybody on the line right now.
09:19:26 Who would like to make public comment if so use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen, and we'll leave public comment open till 9 30.
09:19:35 But just making another call there. looks like we could address our proclamation.
09:19:43 It looks like there's a couple of guests that we need to bring over I don't see.
09:19:53 Oh, there's someone with Jeff co have their hand raise so bring them over.
09:19:56 That's probably okay
09:20:07 Good morning, John. you'll need to unmute good morning. Good morning!
09:20:15 And then who do you know who is identified as Jeff Co-erc?
09:20:18 Oh, that would probably be dick killman there he is right there below Okay, you'll need to unmute Dick So we're.
09:20:27 We're so thrilled that you guys could be with us today to recognize June twentieth as amateur radio day.
09:20:36 And does one. Do you want to t this proclamation up?
09:20:40 I think I could explain that the field date is a nationwide, actually North American event 24Â h long, where amateur operators can either operate from home or they operate portable
or mobile using emergency power to
09:20:57 for mercy, preparedness, and for this year Jefferson County.
09:21:02 I'm sure you a club covid affected and so forth.
09:21:06 We're mostly operating from our homes this year however, even though it's less teamwork.
09:21:11 It's actually better to simulate a quick emergency response, because when the disaster happens, we're at home.
09:21:18 So it's sort of a double-edged so and for those of you that Aren't really aware Amazon radio really provides an emergency messaging conduit or voice data.
09:21:29 And email. We don't need local cellular We don't need Internet not required for our communication.
09:21:36 24 by 7, availability for local, regional, and global community connections to outside the disaster area, to ask for help and so forth.
09:21:45 So in Jefferson County we have a group that's called Vcom, which is volunteer emergency communicators.
09:21:53 We report to the department of emergency. management and we're more than amateur radio.
09:21:59 So we're frs We're gmrs or Cb.
09:22:02 Where Wi-fi were anything form of communications, they can get the message through so amateur radio.
09:22:08 It has a little moniker, which is when all else fails.
09:22:13 And I know that recently you guys help with the race to Alaska.
09:22:17 Right, There was exciting time with some of the boats overturning.
09:22:24 And : Yeah. Thankful for your service. on that front.
09:22:27 First boat finished yesterday. so it's exciting anyway.
09:22:33 Well, so we have a proclam, John. Do you want to add anything just that?
09:22:39 The Department of Emergency management through its logistics.
09:22:42 Section supports and and believes in very strongly the Vcom.
09:22:48 And the other amateur radio people that are in in our community.
09:22:52 We have about 600 and somewhat in the East Jefferson County area, so we have quite a few assets there, and we believe that those assets are extremely important to the survivability
of our community because of their ability to communicate with
09:23:11 outside agencies that could provide some help if needed.
09:23:16 When we can't do it ourselves here in the local area. and we just helped with a thing called Thunder Run this past weekend on the eighteenth, where private pilots through the
dart program brought food in from
09:23:36 all kinds of places to the airport and we we're a a significant asset in the communication systems there, so that people knew when airplanes were landing, and when they were
going to be taking off and what they had and then the
09:23:53 food was delivered to the food banks in the area, so the communications really help things.
09:24:01 To be a little bit smoother, and we have other other things coming up that are gonna be very interesting, too, and we support them
09:24:12 And their efforts to support us. Thank you. Yeah, like the kinetic sculpture race.
09:24:17 Intentional chaos. Well, we appreciate your service, and we have a proclamation in front of us.
09:24:26 Kate or Greg to one. You want to start the proclamation, Kate.
09:24:29 Are you gonna participate? it's probably better if I just listen in, because my the little bit of background noise here Okay, I I can start great proclamation whereas Jefferson
County Washington has more than 650
09:24:45 licensed amateur radio operators who have demonstrated their value and public assistance by providing emergency radio communications.
09:24:53 And whereas these amateur radio operators donate their services free of charge to the county in the interest of of the citizens of the county as well as the world.
09:25:04 And whereas these Amateur radio operators are on alert for any emergency, local or worldwide and practice their communication skills during the American Radio Relay League incorporated
field day exercise and whereas the
09:25:18 year's amateur radio Field Day will take place on June 20, fifth, and 2620, 22, and for this year the participating amateur radio operators will primarily be operating from
their home or
09:25:31 mobile stations for the exercise and contests. Now, therefore, Jefferson County Board of Commissioners hereby proclaim the week of June twentieth 22 as amateur radio week in
recognition of this important emergency,
09:25:46 preparedness, exercise and cut call upon all sales to pay appropriate tribute to the amateur radio operators of our county.
09:25:55 Thanks, you guys, anyone wanna add anything I I love what was doug's line, for when all else fails.
09:26:04 Yeah, that's great, really appreciate the service that that that all all the amateur cam operator and all the different tech operators bring really build the resilience of our
county.
09:26:16 Have a great weekend. you guys, Okay, Kate wants to add some something.
09:26:21 Yeah. Well, we will need to make a motion to approve the proclamation, but also just wanna say that to feel day.
09:26:27 We could take part in that, and we'll never forget contacting the International Space Station.
09:26:33 So appreciate the good work and know the value of it and I'm.
09:26:37 Happy to make a motion to approve the calculation of Gran. I'll second all in favor bye I passes unanimously.
09:26:47 Have a great weekend, you guys. Thank you. Thank you.
09:26:51 Yeah. have a great time
09:26:57 Okay, Well, we have. We still have a few minutes. Is there anybody from the public on the attendee list who would like to make public comments this morning?
09:27:09 We have a few more minutes of our public comment period. If so, use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen.
09:27:19 Not seeing any other hands, go up
09:27:26 Some normally talking to people being quiet this morning. Okay?
09:27:33 So let's see. So our I just win our mind folks that our covid update this week will be at 10 o'clock.
09:27:45 Our scheduling was a little bit different than normal weeks, because we're doing this on a tuesday. so Dr.
09:27:51 Barry and Willie Vince will be joining us at 10 Am.
09:27:54 This morning, so we have a little bit more time in advance of our covid update.
09:28:01 Do we want to do some look calendaring, looking back, briefing, and interest?
09:28:09 Kate, and telling us where you are, where you going? Sure, Yeah, anyway.
09:28:16 So terribly, too. I messed up and scheduling travel today before we have this unusual Touesday meeting on our calendar.
09:28:23 So I am through these joining some meetings this week.
09:28:31 Virtually not a lot to report for the coming week. I did want to see if we, in fact, had anyone available to lead our pride Proclamation?
09:28:41 Saturday at the tide festival sometime.
09:28:45 I also know that public health is going to be there. I wonder if we could have someone from public health.
09:28:48 Read it. If none of the commissioners are available I won't be here, this weekend great will you be
09:29:09 Okay, or if you want me to handle it, he the other way.
09:29:10 Just an idea that they're going to be there and maybe they would be willing to read that for us.
09:29:16 Yeah, no, I can do it. Ryan. Stay on vacation.
09:29:22 Paid as much as you can. thank you It's hard now, with virtual meetings. it's really hard to just take a vacation.
09:29:29 Okay. Yeah, no. i'll follow up with them at noon, when we have a little break.
09:29:36 About that. So anything that people want to report from last week, sure and go to last week, let's see.
09:29:48 Yeah. tourism coordinating council on Tuesday.
09:29:58 Try and lived through a hybrid meeting that I went to my car for and did as a virtual meeting.
09:30:08 And you know it's I I trying to think of of an easy way to distill it.
09:30:13 You know tourism is is going gangbusters and the impacts of tourism are as well i'll i'll leave it at that.
09:30:23 On Wednesday went to meet with some of the the neighbors at the gardener boat ramp, and also had a meeting with the port director about the gardener boat ramp, and the ongoing
issues with the I believe it's an
09:30:41 amical resolution to the other. no shooting area application that we had, and in Gardener the property owners of the like, the one property and question that ended up on the
final suggested map is very against the the concept of a no shooting area just on
09:31:01 their property. So, working with them, also working with the community members about, you know, parking at the Yeah. W.
09:31:10 Dfw property there, and and reaching out this week to W. Dfw.
09:31:16 The ports and public works just to kind of see what we can do about the upcoming Fourth of July impacts that that they've reported the last couple of years.
09:31:26 You know, maybe just new signage to make it very clear that there's no overnight parking.
09:31:33 I don't know parking past desk and everything but that that progress is ongoing and slow.
09:31:40 But that ongoing I think everyone's in favor of the ramp at this point, realizing that the others option is just removing the ramp.
09:31:51 There is an idea being floated and i'm gonna reach out some of the property owners about.
09:31:55 Maybe shifting the ramp down to the middle of that straightaway which would make it a lot safer, is the kind of the perpendicular vehicles Loading boats into the water are just
are at
09:32:06 the right at the bottom of kind of a blind hill so ongoing conversations there.
09:32:15 Simon Hendrix, moving well of course there's material costs creep, and everything but still well within the contingencies.
09:32:24 And we have a some final artists for the 2 areas that we're going to have public art on it.
09:32:30 We're going to have a open house on July thirtieth from 4 to 6 Pm.
09:32:35 At the Holy Cap conference room all are welcome there we've got narrowed it down to 6 artists and we'll have proposals from these 6 artists for these 2 public areas.
09:32:46 Take public input and then the the the 4 judges will make the final determination based on the input from the public.
09:32:54 So that's exciting I just started getting the the proposals yesterday, and it's really exciting to see a splash creativity, you know, on the outside of the of this affordable
housing complex it's going
09:33:07 out so really excited about that. hold the cap meeting from last week to to tour both the casual Brown and and Seventh Haven.
09:33:17 Was pushed off from last week, due to some little little Covid and some critical people.
09:33:26 But moving on this week, and let's see met the was that the developers meeting for casual brown on Thursday, and it's going along Well, They are getting ready to talk for that
rapid re housing some of the rapid
09:33:41 rehousing dollars from commerce that's just been the Rfp.
09:33:44 Has been opened up. We have all had the board of health meeting together, aren't some some great public health heroes not all that we could, but it was really it was very nice.
09:33:58 Did, of course, on Friday had a couple of meetings and the big the big ones.
09:34:06 So the quill scene stopped by the quill scene into school party that they come in for quilting throws every year.
09:34:14 And then I joined the second half of the the tour of the of the trust land transfer, and and they bought a natural area with them. some luminaries.
09:34:23 Everyone from I don't know if Heidi wants to go into this more.
09:34:26 But you know Bill Bill Taylor and Mike Chapman, Steve Darringer, and and
09:34:32 Duane and Hillary, France, and had had a great time walking in the woods that I often say that's my favorite way to spend a work Day is is walking in the woods with people I
enjoy chewing over deep ideas
09:34:43 so continuing to educate myself on that, I did get that one spreadsheet hiding from timber school that I wanted to share.
09:34:50 Maybe when when Kate back next week, they can, I can share that one.
09:34:54 But those were those were the high points last week
09:35:04 I'm muted sorry. great kate do you wanna do some briefing from your last week.
09:35:13 Yeah, sure. let's see and then it's how it does in the background.
09:35:16 Nice So we started on your finance committee for the Economic Development Council, and you know I think it's given this morning before.
09:35:27 They're definitely thank you struggling to complete the work tending and the hunting they had.
09:35:35 So I think It's gonna be some potential revisiting of the highway agreements or or funding options for stay tuned for more.
09:35:43 There are trying to do good work, and really get the organization I think that's an on track for better I am saying and I think it's important that we support that work.
09:35:55 But The Finance Committee is kind of tasked with finding a more sustainable model financially.
09:36:02 See the to have expansion subcommittee met, which I use department as well, and sounds like we're on track.
09:36:10 We are taking effort for the 2 new Board of Health Positions and really encourage folks to take our website by the public health or the main point website for information.
09:36:21 There, and if you saw the chamber put out a nice email for us.
09:36:26 Hosting. A few exists community, and one of the Board of Health Positions can be for colors that are regulated by environmental public health.
09:36:40 Great to share that email with some Board of Health and Actory Advisory Committee.
09:36:48 So
09:36:53 Had to have Climate action committee meeting and considering putting a new community door. So the last time we had a broad community goal that was in early 2,000, and we would
like to change it to align with the ipcc recommendations
09:37:13 and the so stay tuned for that we should that soon.
09:37:21 We met with the recruiter for Jefferson chances to the general manager position that set up.
09:37:30 So i'm looking forward to working with greg kaufman on finding a new general manager, we finding some some additional applicants.
09:37:39 Had a meeting with John Moro, just talked about a number of things with the city, also with the hospital, and kind of regularly check in
09:37:49 There's one Development Council executive board. Matt we are narrowing in on a strategic plan.
09:37:55 Yeah, it'd be important to support there is. We are trying to kind of figure out who our audience is, and many of them say, you know, even our shallow board members don't understand
what the Nodc.
09:38:08 Does and made me think. I wonder, How do you guys know what the Noddc does do?
09:38:11 Need to do a better job of communicating, so I might invite Karen and see the value of an Abc.
09:38:19 To,
09:38:24 Yeah wasn't able to send much of the regional transportation planning need because it seems like unfortunately, with the Council's covid coordination meeting.
09:38:35 That i'll get a report from monthly on what happened there.
09:38:39 Covid coordination. was good that's a very Drndist Ethel Wasn't able to department directors, really appreciated hearing directly from her.
09:38:49 It's a very little concern or I mean it's reasonable little concern about the in presentations.
09:38:56 We've seen that seem to be handling that pretty well dependent and also very little about the new policy that we put in place for the eleventh century policy stuff.
09:39:11 Strange states that we're eating even though it's shifting a lot.
09:39:15 It seems like. Can you think of it? hey? Any questions for Kate Gregor? Mark?
09:39:24 Nope. hmm, mark, do you wanna well last week you were live and large, so oh, you're muted for some reason, maybe volume volume up
09:39:42 What's the secret, Gregg speakers i'm sorry for which marks marks unmuted.
09:39:50 But he's still mute click, on the the little up arrow by the mute, and see what your audio input is there, Mark?
09:40:00 Maybe your need to go to microphone array. Probably no
09:40:13 Well, well, Mark works on his sound, so you can come off mute and tell us about his vacation last week.
09:40:23 I can do my briefing for the last week yeah we can't hear you yet, Mark, and i'm gonna do mine.
09:40:31 So let's see I attended the human service collaborator roundtable.
09:40:37 That's organized by tanya Barnett from the Ymca.
09:40:41 In this in partnership with Jen King Fisher from the Community Foundation, and I really appreciate that kind of a large Round Table of community service providers and public
agencies, and hearing updates from them this month we
09:40:57 focused on Jefferson County, public health, and all the services they provide the community.
09:41:03 And it was. It was very enlightening, because we heard about everything they do for the community, and in 1 one meeting, and that was wonderful!
09:41:12 And a lot of great conversation and questions came out of that
09:41:16 As Kate mentioned, we had the Board of Health Expansion subcommittee and our focus.
09:41:20 There was really promoting the vacancies. and
09:41:24 I would just say that for me i've gotten the Most conversation going about those vacancies on Facebook by sharing sharing a Facebook post about the vacancies on the Board of
Health had a long conversation with the timeline constituent
09:41:39 pondering how to get more locals involved in civics.
09:41:45 And you know she was asking me questions like how could we have a city council for Chicago and i'm like, Well, you're we're an unincorporated area, and you know I think having
community conversations
09:41:56 or getting more engagement. the grange, and having maybe a curated set of conversations that's hosted by the Grange, or something like that might work.
09:42:07 But you know she's discovering a Lot of people don't understand how planning happens.
09:42:11 Why, you know why Chicago is a Lambered instead of a urban growth area, and it's a lot of history and Gma and trying to cause I feel like Christy is trying to brief people on
civics for the
09:42:27 last 40 years, and in East Jefferson county and I think she's feeling like she needs some support in that.
09:42:34 So she and I talked talk brainstorm some ideas. but I think it'll be a long ongoing conversation.
09:42:44 I met with Chinka Fabrani Sorba from Dnr.
09:42:50 About the Dnr carbon project and it was great to just have someone on one time with her to ask questions and get a better sense of kind of the trajectory of the carbon project,
and i've been saying that I feel
09:43:02 like. Maybe we're we need a a long game on this front, and our short game might need to be to let some of these timber sales go.
09:43:12 The operated on and not not the there ares to lead but they're being it's being treated or or spoken about that way right now, and I think i'm getting a better sense of the
trajectory and kind
09:43:26 of the timeline, and it feels like this considerations. of alternatives, like the carbon project, are longer term considerations for the county, especially since we don't really
have a phone street program.
09:43:39 We have Mallory on contract for a little bit of time but we don't really have the capacity to run a forestry program right now, and I think we need to do a lot of planning around
that so anyway, it was a great
09:43:53 conversation conversation with Jenka and I might propose that we put on the agenda for next week, or the week after a part, 2 workshop on all things timber sale, cause we've
all been learning a
09:44:08 lot over the last month, and I think some of our constituents are frustrated that are learning is going slowly, and others wish that we would learn would learn faster and more.
09:44:19 But but I think that just kind of debriefing each other on what we've been learning.
09:44:25 I know that I heard heard mentioned that kate had gotten some data from Dnr. and I.
09:44:30 I feel like we just need to share all these learnings with each other.
09:44:34 So put a pin in that for a future agenda. item.
09:44:39 Greg: Yeah, I'm just I I think that's great. I you know i'll also point out we got a letter from the fire chiefs.
09:44:45 Of course, this this week. that I think we all read but just acknowledge that for for their benefit that we're. We are reading that in process, man, and I think it would be
great to have another conversation yeah, next it's
09:44:58 Monday afternoon, maybe
09:45:09 So an analogous or or parallel track.
09:45:13 Is this all this trust land transferred dnr trust land transfer program work.
09:45:17 I've been doing for the last year and a half and Greg mentioned the the field tour we did on Friday in the Day Bay Area.
09:45:25 There's a project proposal for a property called devil's link to be protected using the trust land transfer mechanism in the next legislative session.
09:45:37 Hopefully. it will be part of the pilot project. The list of pilot projects that comes out of the trust land transfer work, Group
09:45:47 There been a number of projects for exactly that have been proposed over the last few biennia that have not yet been funded.
09:45:53 So there was a tour of Deba Bay on Friday and there was also a tour of Eglon and Kitzab with Senator Ralph's and Commissioner Rob Gilder and Then
09:46:10 there's another workshop being planned for the East Side is side of the State.
09:46:17 I Mark, I see your hand up i'm gonna call on you after i'm done.
09:46:20 Okay, And I see your phone is there, too. So can you hear me now?
09:46:26 Yeah, we can hear you great Okay, i'm I I don't know what's wrong with my computer.
09:46:31 But i'll get it fixed and then let's see.
09:46:40 Agenda, planning with Monty for this week i'm grateful for Monte Cristo, and up to be acting county administrator.
09:46:48 Well, Mark got a little bit of a break which was which is i'm sure awesome.
09:46:51 He's gonna tell us about that and then community Foundation Board meeting Board of Health meeting with all of you.
09:47:01 And then the field tour we've talked about and i'll saw this restate gratefulness for Bill Taylor Taylor, selfish for learning his time. and his boat to to Schlep, all of us
around
09:47:13 Dabb Bay for that day, and then serving as lunch at the shellfish hatchery.
09:47:19 So It was a wonderful day in dave on bay and I'm surprised you didn't mention the eagles Greg.
09:47:26 We saw a 100 eagles that we're all feeding on midshipmen.
09:47:31 Fish under the rocks at the I think I figure at the end.
09:47:36 The the point at the end of Quil scene is called.
09:47:37 Do you remember what that ? priorit point? But it was it was stunning, it was.
09:47:45 It was really one of It's gonna be in one of my top.
09:47:49 5 memories in Jefferson County, and I lived here for 40 years.
09:47:52 So beautiful piece of nature down there in cocaine, and David Bay, and and I look forward to taking care of it with all of you for the rest of my life here.
09:48:05 So that was my last week, and Mark has gotten his
09:48:09 His voice working. Do you wanna say anything about last week, Mark?
09:48:15 Or yeah, and that was sort of a mixed bag.
09:48:20 On Monday we went to Ctac and picked up my daughter and her 4 children and
09:48:24 Yeah, added to Pipe Lake and Maple Valley.
09:48:32 And I I spent actually, from Saturday until yesterday at the lake.
09:48:38 The downside was the weather wasn't very good cold temperatures. We couldn't swim because the water's still too cold.
09:48:45 But but it was really great playing with my grandkids.
09:48:50 And seeing my daughter I hadn't seen her for 40 years so
09:48:55 They'll be here until the fifth of august which is great.
09:49:00 And so I look forward to 3 day weekends until the fifth of August, and I thank you Commissioners for allowing me to to take every Friday off for the next 6 weeks or so.
09:49:12 Yeah. So it was Yeah, Phil. Micah. Great. glad to hear it.
09:49:20 And Carolyn reminded me to remind everyone that public comment is close and close.
09:49:25 For about 20Â min, but we were just talking away, and I forgot to close public comment.
09:49:30 So we appreciate everyone being here this morning. yeah i'm gonna be taking Friday off this week, too.
09:49:37 So I show in the schedule valley is closing this weekend.
09:49:41 So we're going up for the last hurrah and Then I will be back to more than full time.
09:49:48 Commissioner girl. Okay. So I think that's good for looking back, Does anyone have any questions about what anyone shared this morning, or have anything additional that's come
up through the conversation?
09:50:00 They want to bring up nope well so maybe let's take a little break until Maybe i'll i'll come back in like 8Â min.
09:50:14 And we'll get dr barry and willie bence and get our covid update and our covid update will be a little bit shorter this week.
09:50:21 We'll just go till 1030 because we have a hearing at 1030 about a cape, George.
09:50:28 No shooting area, and then a bid opening at 1130.
09:50:32 Regarding the transfer station pit scale replacement project.
09:50:36 So we will recess until 10 o'clock.
09:59:31 I'll go ahead and start av capture great
09:59:49 In town. Okay, and it calls back to order at 10 o'clock correct.
09:59:56 I'll call us back to order Now so that we are running when Dr.
10:00:02 Barry joins us it's 10 o'clock on my clock, but 9, 58 on the other one.
10:00:13 We see her there. She had another meeting till 10. so I see Willie Vince, though.
10:00:20 Yeah, can bring Willie over and i'm sure she'll be here shortly
10:00:36 Good morning. Good morning, Willie. hey? Good morning! Do we wanna start with your update this morning?
10:00:43 Since Dr. Barry might be a couple of minutes. Devine.
10:00:49 Any updates to sharon nothing on the covid front
10:00:55 We've actually removed one of our mask collection locations out front of public health.
10:00:59 I'm gonna masks are still available to grocery stores, local businesses.
10:01:03 Anyone who wants them. But we've seen a pretty extreme down tick in demand for masking.
10:01:10 So at this point in time the vast majority of our covid operations here in deem have have ceased but we remain ready to support public health.
10:01:19 We're working on our after action review of our response right now, and will actually be with the board later next month. present.
10:01:28 Some of our findings. I I did want to. Well, we have time.
10:01:32 Talk a little bit about on some of the work we did last week.
10:01:36 In the the disaster preparedness field last week was a cascade or rising a large statewide tabletop exercise to prepare for a large cascadia catastrophic earthquake that focused
on critical
10:01:52 transportation routes, as well as like mass care and sheltering.
10:01:55 How we take care of folks afterwards. and we also had an exercise on Saturday.
10:02:01 Utilizing Dart The Disaster Air Response Team of Group A private volunteer pilot Fluent food from airports like Los Angeles, Bellingham, Renton, Walla Walla with about a dozen
coming into
10:02:15 Jefferson County, and then it was an exercise where we used our our amateur radio, our Vcom operators to communicate the private volunteer pilot to bring donated food in, and
then we ended up donating about 3,400
10:02:28 pounds of food that was flown In using these private volunteer pilots to the Jefferson County Food Bank.
10:02:34 I'm missed to to simulate a post disaster scenario.
10:02:37 Where are regular modes of transportation, are unavailable to us, and these private volunteer pilots.
10:02:44 Ostensibly being our only lifeline to the outside world.
10:02:48 So a lot of good practice for us last week. starting to prepare for the next major disaster.
10:02:55 Most of what we learned. we actually already knew that we are pretty severely underprepared for a major Cascadia earthquake.
10:03:04 That we do really need folks at an individual level to take charge of their own preparedness.
10:03:10 Work Talk to your families, talk to your neighbors i'm.
10:03:15 Start building up your disaster because stadium earthquake gonna be catastrophic.
10:03:18 It's gonna be potentially in the worst disaster in us history.
10:03:22 It's gonna hit us i'm pretty hard here so some good lessons learned for us last week.
10:03:27 But another call to action for our citizens to take their own personal preparedness seriously.
10:03:32 Last thing I wanted to say, as we are going to start seeing some warm weather this weekend.
10:03:38 Nothing like we saw in the heat film last June.
10:03:42 But we should start creeping up into the seventys.
10:03:45 I wanted to call folks attention to the national weather service as a heat risk index. i'm that i'd encourage folks to look at It's what we'll be using as one of the trigger
points for when we start to look at
10:03:58 severe weather shelters like cooling centers. Unfortunately, this weekends weather is just in the yellow category, which means a slightly elevated risk.
10:04:09 But but nothing too severe. but I know that's been a a question that's come up to the commissioners, and and to me, through these briefings i'm a number of times so we should
start seeing some warming
10:04:20 this weekend I'm thankfully, nothing too severe but for folks who are concerned about that definitely check out the heat risk map on the national weather team.
10:04:29 I'm not barring any questions that into my report really i'm just curious.
10:04:35 I mean you said £3,400 of food.
10:04:38 By the volunteer pilots. How how much food would we need to in Jefferson County with the population of over 30,000?
10:04:48 How much food would we need for a week? Do you have you?
10:04:51 Have you figured that out. i'm not in terms. of I I don't have that off top of my head.
10:04:57 We did have one of our staff a while back. ha! ha!
10:05:02 Have those calculations, so I can dig those up and report back on that But need this to say it's quite a bit
10:05:07 And so these single engine aircraft that we can get in, and part of the benefits of that post disaster is obviously they can land at our airport, and but in a pinch there are
stretches highway there are open fields
10:05:19 that they would potentially be able to bland and deliver food into cut off community.
10:05:25 But they can carry carry anywhere from 250 to £500 each.
10:05:30 But that equals a lot of trips out in the back end.
10:05:36 Never mind in a post disaster. Scenario worth fuel is going to be extremely limited.
10:05:40 So this is a really valuable lifeline for us but it's not the end.
10:05:44 All be all answer We have worked on other things like working with the Navy to Survey beach heads that they would be able to use to to land on, to deliver critical supplies.
10:05:56 In but they are going to be 3 weeks to a month before they actually come into service.
10:06:01 Jefferson County, just given that if you're going to go to the larger population areas.
10:06:04 First. So we have a few resources that we are working on
10:06:09 But again they're gonna be a long way out it's gonna take a lot of work to get them in.
10:06:13 So we really look at folks to take personal responsibility. build your own emergency.
10:06:19 I see Kate has her hand up okay you're muted
10:06:30 Commissioner . Yup. Yup, we can hear you now.
10:06:35 Yeah, Willie. just want to say i've been some time looking at resources on your website.
10:06:41 I recently bought a a van a very funky, Yeah.
10:06:48 And a great opportunity to think about camping. supplies as emergency preparedness supplies. And I've gotten much more organized, and through through looking at some of the
resources when you send your website discovered that things like we charge more power banks have gotten way cheaper with solar panels and
10:07:05 So I appreciate the work that you're doing and want to put in a plug for sense to get organized, and you know it's a few bins of camping gears and quickly become an emergency
preparedness
10:07:14 kit lower. Yeah, that's a a phenomenal point and also really great news.
10:07:21 I'm i'm glad to hear you're doing some some work, and that's a great way to think about disaster.
10:07:27 Preparedness, camping in a in a in a very basic sense.
10:07:33 That you you lack modern amenities like after an earthquake.
10:07:36 You might lack running water in your home you're not going to be able to run to the grocery store.
10:07:42 You may have to shelter in place and so it's gonna be more or less just like camping on, you know, cooking on a small propane stove.
10:07:51 Eating those you know. backpacker type foods that you know, used to add hot water to but have a long shelf life, etc. So i'm a little bit less of an intimidating way to think
10:08:00 about preparing for a catastrophic emergency it's just another form of camping.
10:08:06 So i'm Glad to hear you're doing that work and
10:08:09 Okay, Good. good plug for that kind of paradigm that way, I think in thanks for the update, Willie, we really appreciate all the work you you and your team do.
10:08:18 Good morning, Dr. Barry, and we have until 1030. Okay, you have a hearing at 1030.
10:08:25 So the floor is yours, my dear. Alright. Well, I will do my best to be efficient.
10:08:31 Update on the Covid front. So nationally we are seeing that cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are largely plateauing.
10:08:40 So at very high rates of cases but our deaths are on the lower end than they have been. But we're still losing a little over 300 Americans every day, due to Covid 19 in Washington
State we're seeing
10:08:51 a very similar trend. Cases and hospitalizations in facts are also largely plateauing.
10:08:59 In Jefferson County we have largely seen a plateau, but we have seen what we think will be a relatively limited bump.
10:09:04 This week, in case rates do primarily to end of school year gatherings, where a lot of private gatherings related to the end of the school year, and we saw some case, some outbreaks
related to that so our
10:09:18 total number of cases is 4,567.
10:09:22 Our case rate is 979 so quite high right now that we do think that will come back down with a 14% positivity.
10:09:30 We have one person currently hospitalized for COVID-19 for a total of 133 hospitalizations and 30 deaths due to this virus.
10:09:39 No new deaths today the person in the hospital is doing quite well, and is on track to discharge today and Clown County.
10:09:46 I haven't received the numbers yet this morning, but as a Friday our case rate for clleam was 657, and we had one person in the hospital as well.
10:09:55 So overall, where we are continuing to see this trend where case rates are very, very high, but we're not seeing a spike in severe disease here, which is very hopeful, and as
we've discussed on this call
10:10:05 before, really, I think, does signal a transition in things. and our response to this virus.
10:10:12 So we are moving to a more management stage, where we really in our department primarily focus a lot of our work on managing transmission in high risk settings. So we're still
working a lot on outbreak control in long-term
10:10:24 care facilities, jails, prisons working closely with the schools, but we don't do as much outbreak control in the general community.
10:10:31 When you see this high rate of transmission along with that transition in phase this next week, we're going to be to be transitioning our data, reporting as well.
10:10:42 So starting next week. we're going to be moving away from a daily case rate update, or a daily case up update to a weekly one.
10:10:49 So if you go to our website, and there is certainly a a big group of our of our community who watch every day.
10:10:57 For those numbers updates. We are going to be transitioning to a weekly update going forward.
10:11:04 The main reasons for that, are that it really takes a lot of staff time to make that daily number update.
10:11:11 It really takes a lot of the time of our nursing staff, and we do think that at this point in the response a weekly update will be enough to inform the public to make decisions
around their safety, and we're hoping to pull
10:11:23 our nurses into some additional work some of the work that we've had the shelf during the covid 19 pandemic.
10:11:30 Other important public health work, including, pulling them into some pediatric vaccination.
10:11:37 And, so to to speak, to that one very good piece of news, especially as a parent of a very small child.
10:11:44 Is that this last week the pediatric kovat 19 vaccine for kids 6 months to 5 years was approved, and those vaccines are just starting to be shipped to our community.
10:11:56 Now the first doses are arriving this week in the Jefferson County.
10:12:00 So a little bit about the pediatric vaccine.
10:12:04 So this is the vaccine approved for kids 6 months to 5 years, which is the only group of kids in our community that have not yet had the opportunity to get vaccinated.
10:12:12 Looking at the Fda discussion of the data around these vaccines. there are 2 approved formulations.
10:12:20 One is the moderna formulation, which is a two-do series.
10:12:23 One is the Pfizer formulation. That is a 3, though series. A common question I get from parents who are watching this closely is which one should I get, I would say, whichever
one your pediatricians office has or your
10:12:35 family doctor or the Public Health Department has it's which everyone you can get some parents might be interested in going for the Moderna, because it's a 2 dough series.
10:12:45 I would caution that I think it is very likely to become a 3 dose series in time, just like the other vaccines have.
10:12:52 So I I wouldn't let hang your hat on the 2 versus 3 doses, because we could very well see a booster required for the Moderna series, so they're likely to both be 3 do series
in the end a little bit
10:13:04 about the data on me. So the what they saw in the trials for both of these vaccines is that children in this age group had neutralizing antibody levels equivalent to those seen
in older populations and this is pretty
10:13:19 standard for how we study efficacy of vaccines in children. it's something called immuno bridging.
10:13:26 So because thankfully severe outcomes are relatively rare in small children, and these trials tend to be smaller.
10:13:32 We look a lot at their antibody levels, and if we see equivalent antibody levels to those seen in older populations, we determine that they are likely to be as efficacious in
preventing severe disease in those populations we
10:13:45 also saw in the real world outcomes that they were efficacious and preventing severe disease.
10:13:52 So we are very hopeful that these will go a long way to reduce severe disease in spell.
10:13:56 Children many parents like we have some questions about whether or not they need to vaccinate their kids who are under 5.
10:14:05 I think the public discussion around COVID-19 and children has often focused on the fact that severe outcomes are less common in this population than in our older populations,
and that is true.
10:14:19 But unfortunately, severe outcomes are still much more common than we would like to see.
10:14:23 Over 400 children in this age group under 5 have died due to Covid 19, and the majority of those were actually in the last year.
10:14:33 So it wasn't in 2,020 It was really recessive spike in pediatric hospitalization and death in the Omaha cron wave and the primary age group that drove that spike was
10:14:43 kids under 5 who didn't have access to the vaccine yet.
10:14:48 So it is this virus. Well, thankfully, it is less commonly severe in this age group.
10:14:53 It stand still can be quite severe and we don't want that to happen, especially when we have an available safe and effective vaccine.
10:15:02 To prevent that one. one data point that I think commonly gets talked about.
10:15:07 So we talk about how many kids have died due. to covid 19 in this age group, and unfortunately I hear I hear conversation that well, 400 doesn't sound like that. many, and I
would say to me 400 children dead is a lot
10:15:23 I think if we can prevent the deaths of 400 kids that's very much worthwhile.
10:15:28 I think It's also important to know that thankfully children do not often die in this age range, and so COVID-19 in 2020.
10:15:38 One was the fifth leading cause of death. in children 0 to 5, and so it's a it's a big driver of mortality right now, and that's something we Now, have a vaccine that we can
prevent so I
10:15:49 would strongly recommend that families move forward with getting their kids vaccinated.
10:15:54 In this age group. I can tell you that I certainly plan on getting my daughter back vaccinated as soon as possible for those who are interested in getting vaccinated.
10:16:03 I wanna acknowledge that many of us have been waiting for this for a long time, and so you might many of us really want to get this done right now.
10:16:13 I would say the vaccines are just starting to come into our community.
10:16:16 How to access the vaccine So there's 2 primary places where you can get your kitto vaccinated if they're under 5.
10:16:23 One is at Jefferson Healthcare, and one is the Jefferson County.
10:16:26 Public health. so you can check on either of our websites, or you can call the Covid hotline to go ahead and get your kiddo scheduled.
10:16:34 I would say we are likely to see vaccination starting at Jefferson healthcare next week. Probably not.
10:16:39 This week. so hang tight, just a little bit starting next week we should be able to get your kido vaccinated and at Jefferson's public health.
10:16:49 We should be starting either next week or potentially the week after. But we'll get some more updates on the website shortly.
10:16:55 The biggest challenge in factating this age population is that it does require specialized skill.
10:17:02 Many of our volunteers who vaccinated before. only work with adults. vaccinating infants is a special skill, but not everybody has.
10:17:12 And so, especially as our healthcare system continues to be strained under the weight of the last couple years. finding staff to vaccinate very small children is the biggest
limitation right now. but we will be vaccinating in
10:17:24 Jefferson. Public health and we'll be putting out a press release later this week, for how to access that will also, likely see something similar out of Jefferson healthcare.
10:17:34 But those are 2 sites to vaccinate i'd say, hang type this week, starting next week.
10:17:39 Give us a call, and we'll help get you on the schedule one of our one of our questioners asked.
10:17:46 A little bit of was was focused on vaccines, and particularly about evaluating the risks and benefits of vaccines.
10:17:53 In this population. So we dug into a little bit about the risks due to Covid 19, and I think parents understandably especially given.
10:18:03 Some of the coverage are often a little nervous about the possible risks of the vaccine. so I wanted to go over a little bit of what we've seen so far in the trials related
to this age range so the most
10:18:12 common side effect is. kids who gotten this vaccine in the trials was pain in their arm.
10:18:18 The next most common side effect. after that was a fever.
10:18:21 Fevers after vaccinations, especially in small children are pretty common and they're generally very well treated by pediatric Tylenol, or so or pediatric iprofen depending
10:18:32 on the age of the child, but generally pediatric acida benefit, or Tylenol is going to be your best your best treatment available.
10:18:40 So as a mom whose daughter gets back vaccines.
10:18:43 I make sure that I have some Thailand all around in case she gets a fever afterwards, and she needs to be treated.
10:18:50 Not all fevers need to be treated but a fever over 104 does, and many kids feel more comfortable if their fever comes down.
10:18:57 So if your kids uncomfortable, they have a fever taking a little. Tylenol.
10:19:03 Getting them well hydrated is usually all you need to do and that's really what we saw predominantly in these trials.
10:19:09 Very small children in very rare instances, regardless of the cause.
10:19:14 When they get a fever, sometimes can actually get a seizure. It's called a february seizure.
10:19:18 It can be caused by viruses, but it can also be caused by fevers that come from vaccine.
10:19:23 That was seen a couple of times in the trials that's that is something that happens sometimes in small children when they get a virus, or when they get a high fever due to a
vaccine the best treatment for
10:19:34 that is, if your kiddo has a high fever over one o 4, he said. Go ahead and treat them with Tylenol.
10:19:40 Certainly, if you ever saw a cashier in a small child, you should call contact your medical provider for assistance.
10:19:45 But we have not seen actually that the virus cut that the the vaccine caused that.
10:19:51 It's just something that can rarely happen in smell children when they get a fever.
10:19:55 And we see it sometimes in kids who have colds as well, so weighing the risks and benefits of these vaccines.
10:20:00 One of the things that we are watching for is myo carditis.
10:20:04 That is something that we saw in vaccines for older children.
10:20:08 That is not something that we saw in any of the trials for the children under 5.
10:20:13 That is thankfully a very rare outcome that showed up in some of the vaccines for older kids, and so we would not necessarily have seen it in the trials at this point.
10:20:24 But looking at the children of the next age group up.
10:20:27 So kids 5 to 11. we've given over 19 million doses of the vaccine in this country for kids 5 to 11, and there were 20 cases of myo carditis in that age. group.
10:20:40 The vast majority of those were very mild, and resolved on their own.
10:20:45 There have been no deaths due to the vaccine in that age group.
10:20:49 Compare that to the number of children that we lost due to Covid 19, or who had severe myocarditis due to their Covid 19.
10:20:56 The the risk benefit ratio is very, very clear.
10:21:00 Getting the vaccine is much, much safer than getting Covid 19 in this age group.
10:21:06 The other common question that I often get from parents is well.
10:21:10 My kid had Covid 19 already in the last couple of years, because there wasn't a vaccine available.
10:21:16 As we discussed on this. on this call, mine is in that category.
10:21:21 So parents often ask, should they get maxated if their kid already had Covid?
10:21:25 And the answer is, Yes. So with all macron and with the variance that we're seeing right now, we're not seeing very good protection against severe disease from just prior infection,
without vaccination, so vaccination remains critical
10:21:39 for preventing those most severe outcomes in small children.
10:21:44 Even if they had covid. So, even though my daughter relatively recently recovered from her covid.
10:21:49 We're gonna get her vaccinated. because I don't want her to have severe disease due to covid.
10:21:53 I don't want her to get it hospitalized I don't want her to die.
10:21:56 The other things that we're working hard to prevent are 2 other pretty negative outcomes related to Covid. actually 3.
10:22:04 So one is Myo carditis. My outcarditis is dramatically more common, due to covid infection than it is to the vaccine and the myopheritis that comes from Covid is much
10:22:13 more severe than the rare outcome we sometimes see with the vaccine. we tend to see permanent disability.
10:22:20 When people get my outcomes from covid versus those who get my apprentice from the vaccine tend to recover entirely on their own, and go back to a totally normal life, the other
thing we're working to prevent is
10:22:31 multi-system inflammatory disease so that's a rare outcome.
10:22:35 We've seen in small children from covid where they get this diffuse inflammatory response throughout their body.
10:22:40 They get a terrible rash and and failure of multiple organs that's a rare outcome from Covid.
10:22:46 And we've seen that the risk of it is tremendous reduced in those who have been vaccinated.
10:22:51 So we're really hopeful that we can prevent that outcome with getting, and the other big thing that we wanna prevent is long, Covid.
10:22:59 Unfortunately, we do see long covid in small children who are recovering from their covid infections.
10:23:05 We see persistent cough, persistent shortness of breath, brain fog, trouble, concentrating, and actually persistent depression.
10:23:11 After Covid 19 infection and so getting backinated, has shown efficacy at reducing the risk of long Covid as well.
10:23:19 So those are all the reasons that come together. for way. it's a really good idea to get your young child backs needed, and why we plan to do so in my family as well.
10:23:27 And so with that i'm happy to take any questions from the Commissioners
10:23:36 I'm on mute Gregor kate do you have any questions for Dr.
10:23:40 Barry this morning. Oh, great, great digging in for the
10:23:44 Exciting new opportunities for, you know, vaccinations for young kids.
10:23:49 So thanks for breaking it down. So logically kate do you have any questions?
10:23:56 See you're unmuted believe it or not
10:24:02 Great. Well, my only one I had one question about i'm. i'm getting a lot of questions about the you know that we're still on this high. , high risk category.
10:24:14 But we feel if people are feeling like we're in a different phase with Covid when are we gonna talk about kind of adjusting our side bars, if you will, for this more kind of
normal or in as you have
10:24:32 called the endemic phase of of the pandemic So you mean like kind of adjusting the risk.
10:24:40 Dial Is there an idea of doing that or other communities doing that?
10:24:43 It's certainly something we're talking about? about? you know where what is the what is the appropriate rate of, for instance, even just monitor cases in this next phase?
10:24:54 And I do think there will come a time really probably in the next couple of months, where we'll transition to a different kind of surveillance when it comes to covid 19 cases
right now.
10:25:02 We still try to count them all the best we can and we will likely transition away from that in the coming months to looking at what's called sentinel surveillance where we're
looking at a certain pocket of
10:25:15 labs throughout the State, and in the county that we monitor as opposed to trying to account all cases. So I think that is probably the time where we'll transition away from
things you know, or transition the risk dial into responding
10:25:29 to the sentinel surveillance system, I would say as an individual, if you are vaccinated, boosted
10:25:36 And you have a functioning immune system. covid 19 is unlikely to lead to severe outcomes for you.
10:25:42 And so it's reasonable to start practicing safety differently if you're in that group.
10:25:47 If you're unvaccated, Unfortunately covid 19 can still be quite severe.
10:25:51 And if you are vaccinated, but you have immunosuppression, if you're a cancer patient, it can still be quite severe.
10:25:58 And so when we have this much transmission in the community, certainly if you're in any of those high risk groups, I strongly recommend wearing a high quality mask when you're
out and about and I still wear a mask in indoor
10:26:09 settings, even though i'm vaccinated and boosted so that I can protect them.
10:26:12 Those high risk folks, those vulnerable folks in our community. and I think that's still a good idea. right Now, I don't know if we'll always be at this higher rate of transmission.
10:26:21 I do think it will come down but I also think in the coming months.
10:26:25 We'll transition to surveillance differently and we'll we'll talk some more about changing the rest when that happens. right.
10:26:31 Thanks, Dr. Barry. I think I've left you a total of 5Â min for kptz questions that you haven't already addressed. I think we can do it.
10:26:45 We don't have too many 1 one was talking about kind of accessibility of health officers in the pandemic and kind of all of us have handled it differently of how we've tried
to be
10:26:49 accessible to the public. I do wanna acknowledge that many of us have depending on the county and depending on how well funded their public health system is have very different
number of hours that they have a health.
10:27:01 Office there. So some of our counties actually only have a health officer for like 5Â h a week.
10:27:05 And so they're not able to accomplish the same things.
10:27:09 And I wanna acknowledge that throughout the pandemic I have not been able to respond to every individual email I get.
10:27:17 Unfortunately we get so many but I think things like this program are very helpful.
10:27:22 As a place where people could raise questions, and we can answer them for the benefit of the whole public.
10:27:29 Often when I get lots of emails they're all about the same thing. And so I I really want to thank K.
10:27:33 Ptz for giving us this forum, where we can answer those questions in a book.
10:27:38 What way that reaches the public as a whole. So I I really appreciate this form, and the Commissioners for giving us this forum as well.
10:27:49 And you and you Dr. barry I mean you've been so consistent and such a resource for the community.
10:27:55 I just you can thank us, but we really need to thank you. Thank you.
10:27:58 I appreciate it, and I want to thank the folks who keep sending us questions because it's really helpful. It affects how we manage our communications and also can affect programs
So I have definitely gotten more than one question that has helped shape the way
10:28:11 that we deliver services. so keep them coming it's really helpful
10:28:16 Another one that is about this person. says we've heard that once you get Covid it's very unusual to get it again for 90 days.
10:28:24 Is that correct? And how do we know that that's the case And it is correct.
10:28:28 You are unlikely to get covid again within 90 days after prior infection.
10:28:33 It's not impossible we have seen reinfections as short as 30 days after a prior infection that was most common from delta to omicron.
10:28:41 But we do still occasionally see it now it's much less common. the way that we know that it's we actually do monitor our cases. so we keep track of who they are, and if they
get symptoms again, and test again, then
10:28:53 we find out about reinfections, and we link them back up in our system?
10:28:56 If it's within 90 days and you have new symptoms if it's within 30 days, you really don't need to retest if it's within 90 days in that 30 to 90 day window and you have new
10:29:06 illness Symptoms with do recommend you test, but with an antigen test the Pcr.
10:29:12 Tests will continue to be positive from your prior infection you won't be able to distinguish, but an antigen test will become negative, and then positive.
10:29:19 Again. So if more than 30 days have a lapse and you've got new symptoms in your positive on an antigen test again, you're probably infected again, though that's uncommon.
10:29:30 So generally that 90 day window is pretty solid. After 90 days we see a dramatic spike in re-entions.
10:29:35 And so just a prior infection alone is not enough to protect you.
10:29:38 After 90 days, which is why it's so important to move forward with getting vaccinated.
10:29:42 If you haven't already this next person asks about exactly that about a prolonged pcr hostivity, you can test positive for months.
10:29:54 The longest i've seen in our jurisdiction was 4 months after a prior infection.
10:29:58 So we don't recommend, continued pcr testing antigen tests can also continue to test positive. but for a shorter period of time up to about 2 weeks, and so after day 10 you
don't have to keep testing if you
10:30:12 will generally will end. Your isolation. if it's 10 days after your symptom onset, and if you're fever free, and your symptoms are improving, you can go ahead and leave isolation
If you have any
10:30:20 persistent symptoms and you're at all concerned wearing a mask when you're around others in indoor settings should be enough to prevent any ongoing transmission, and let me
just double check Oh,
10:30:33 one last quick question, and then we'll get you to your hearing
10:30:37 So this person said that vaccine people are less likely to be contagious when they don't have symptoms, and that's true.
10:30:43 We talked about that last time this person's best whether or not that's also true about people who have had a prior infection, and I would say yes, in that 90 day window, but
not as clear beyond that 90 day window so if people were
10:30:56 infected well over a year ago. we see their antibody levels drop, and they're they can still be pre symptomatically shedding.
10:31:04 So it's really primarily vaccinated folks that we're not seeing that pre symptomatic transmission.
10:31:08 And now I think it's 1030 in time for your hearing. So thank you so much for the time really appreciate it.
10:31:14 Thank you, Dr. Barry. Thank you willie for being with us this morning , we're all gonna go There's gonna be a run on camping meals in the community.
10:31:24 Watch out for those buckets at costco they're gonna fly off the shelves.
10:31:26 Okay, Good: Thank you guys. Okay. So I think we now have a hearing on the Cape George.
10:31:39 No shooting area, so i'm early in my years as a commissioner, and early with hearings.
10:31:46 But I think i've got this down i'm gonna welcome everyone to a public hearing regarding establishing a Cape Jude Cape George.
10:31:59 No shooting area under Chapter 8 that 50 of the Jefferson County code.
10:32:02 I'm the public hearing do we wanna do we wanna do a briefing on this right.
10:32:11 I see Philip there, so we're gonna do a little bit of a briefing, and then we will open the hearing.
10:32:20 Philip, are you prepared to do a short briefing on this?
10:32:25 Oh, you're at what can't hear you either correct how's that?
10:32:38 Okay. So
10:32:45 So just to remind folks this is a follow up to a session that we had a couple of weeks ago.
10:32:52 This is the hearing about the Cape George. No shooting area at our previous session.
10:32:57 We decided that we would move forward with this option for this. no shooting area.
10:33:02 So right; and this is the presentation from that session.
10:33:09 May seventeenth. i'm not going to go through all of it, because it a lot of it has to do with choices you could make, and you made the choice to have the hearing.
10:33:19 So we're on that path I think there's really 2 slides that are important for for these purposes.
10:33:26 And i'll show this to you now first and i'm gonna
10:33:30 I'm gonna start with slide 7 which is the limitations on what you can do.
10:33:41 There's rcw 9.4 1.2 9 0, which pramps local, where firearms regulation.
10:33:49 And then there's an exception in 9.4 1.300 subsection, 3 that's carried over into the code.
10:34:00 Our code at Jcc. 8.5 0 point 0, 5 0 subsection one. And if there's a likely a reasonable likelihood of jeopardy to humans, domestic animals or property, then you can have a
local regulation of
10:34:19 firearms and then in jcc 8.5 0 point 0, 5, 0 subsection, 2 and subsection 3 there has to be a definable threat to public health safety or the general welfare.
10:34:36 So they're 2 and 3 are somewhat related but slightly different and I think this mostly impacts the scope of the of the no shooting area that you're considering today.
10:34:53 And then I wanna show slide 15 which I've highlighted this time, and it was in black before.
10:35:05 Now it's in blue but you get to determine as commissioners.
10:35:11 The final boundaries for the No shooting area so that's the important.
10:35:19 Those are the 2 important considerations I think for you for the hearing today, and then, I think it's useful to talk about the the proposed ordinance itself.
10:35:32 I'd probably have to reshare this so give me a second here
10:35:41 Okay, So can you see the Can you see the ordinance?
10:35:46 , okay. So i'm gonna just start with the the the the make it a little smaller.
10:35:58 So attachment a to the ordinance it shows the the area that's proposed for this cape charge no shooting area, and this area was developed through the petition itself, or the
smaller of the 2 Cape
10:36:23 George, no shooting areas. We had a workshop on this where we where you took public comments.
10:36:32 And this is the Gis version made much prettier in purple.
10:36:40 That shows the area where we ended up at the after the workshop.
10:36:47 And then the ordinance itself was posted with the agenda.
10:36:51 Today, and I just have it up here in case we need to look at the details.
10:36:56 But the guts of it really are are that you have a no shirting area that's defined by the boundaries, and in section one A one B.
10:37:15 And it literally that's if you if you were to you know draw it.
10:37:20 That's where you'd end up on the on the map
10:37:24 And then, secondly, the map that we that we already talked about and that's and that's discussed in subsection.
10:37:30 2 So you're really taught and then if there's some difference between the meets and bounds that's this list that we talked about where you used to draw the area.
10:37:42 And the map. then the then the meets and bounds controls So that's really all you know aside from citing the authority for the ordinance in an 8 and chapter 8.5 0 of our code
that's really
10:37:59 all the ordinance does it. It defines the limits of the Kate George.
10:38:05 No shooting area, great
10:38:12 I saw that Kate had her hand up so can hear your name.
10:38:20 Yes, we can hear. you Okay, let's have been the way i'm gonna move connectivity here in a minute. and i'm not sure if the the Board participates taking action today.
10:38:32 If so, I will miss it. So I I did want to just take an opportunity to say that public comment at the workshop we held and received some testimony via email already.
10:38:46 You know I i'm left something worth it to come up as a surprise today.
10:38:50 I just want you to know. Generally I I support but smaller.
10:38:53 You know, shooting area boundary and apologize for for missing the hearing.
10:38:59 Look forward to hearing what you Thanks, Kate. Great! Did you have everything you want, Dad?
10:39:08 I you know I just love to have a process. question. if we are. If we are gonna leave lose Kate here, and she's not gonna be able to deliberate with us. I mean, do you want to
consider maybe setting some
10:39:17 guidelines first. that will, you know, have the here and close the hearing.
10:39:21 But complete our deliberations next week i'm not sure if there's a time if there's a reason to complete it today when we don't have for participants and I think that that's
a that's allowable
10:39:33 right, right, Philip, to have to have the hearing today and make our final decision next week, and I think that's what we should move forward with.
10:39:44 So if there's no other yeah if there's no other comments or questions right now.
10:39:53 Let's open our hearing to hear from folks who might have input on this
10:39:58 So we welcome everyone to this public hearing regarding creation of a Cape George.
10:40:06 No shooting area under chapter 850 of the Jefferson County code.
10:40:09 This public hearing is now open. If you have joined via the phone and was to provide testimony, please stand the lie line, and we will provide an opportunity to speak after
folks who are on zoom If you need to call in the Pr the
10:40:27 phone number is listed at the top of today's agenda as your elected officials.
10:40:34 We want to hear your public testimony and input on this issue.
10:40:37 It will help inform our deliberations and decisions I'll now open the hearing to listen to your testimony.
10:40:45 I see folks are raising your hands so if you're here on zoom.
10:40:49 You can join You can make comments using the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen, and if you're on the phone you can press star 9 on the phone to be brought
over and when we bring you over you'll have
10:41:02 3Â min for public testimony, and we will need to know your name and your address, because this is a formal hearing of the Board of County Commissioners.
10:41:15 So Carolyn, can we start bringing people over Oh, you're muted.
10:41:26 Sorry I guess I was muted You'll have to I'll bring over John Dwyer and Harvey Stone.
10:41:30 You'll have to accept the promotion of panelists So if you're there on the zoom on the attendee list in zoom, please, and you wish to make public comments today.
10:41:42 Please raise. Use the raise hand button at the bottom of the screen, and we'll bring you over in the order that your hands go up, and if, as common is made you decide to make
you wanna make testimony.
10:41:54 Just use that raise hand button, thanks John dwyer we'll hear from you first.
10:41:59 Still need to unmute and you'll have 3Â min for public.
10:42:06 Thank the Commissioners very much for what they've done, and outlining exactly what the boundaries were for the snowshoot zone again.
10:42:13 My Name's John dwar I live at 3 61 South Palmer drive you're in Cape George.
10:42:20 I'm a member of the board of trustees here and I would applaud approval of this no shoot zone.
10:42:28 It just adds one more layer of safety to the community, and I think that that at this point in time is and again, I would appreciate a boat for the positive while i'm moving,
forward thank you very
10:42:45 much thanks for your comments, Mr. dwyer harvey stone you're unmuted, and you'll have 3Â min for public comment.
10:42:56 Great. Thank you. I want to support the No shooting zone, and and is wide of a shoot.
10:43:03 No shooting zone, as we could get and I thought a lot about this, since the last hearing, and one of the things I noticed was when I enter Cape George from the highway to come
to my house.
10:43:15 It's about a half a mile from the entrance to my house, and there's I think, 4 20 mile an hour posted signs.
10:43:25 One of them is digital, and the other are 3 street signs.
10:43:30 Within a half a mile, and that's to alert us to the danger of people driving fast around here.
10:43:39 I know we don't need 4 signs why not just have no signs or just one sign.
10:43:44 But we're conscious of the dangers from driving to residents, and I want to use that analogous analogously with the same thing with shooting.
10:43:56 The more awareness we have of the danger, and of course the no shooting would, no shooting ordinance would do that or help to do that.
10:44:03 The more likely will avoid any of The jeopardy that is, seems to be the the lynch pin of the way.
10:44:13 The ordinance. The way the law is written now, which is does.
10:44:16 It? Would it produce jeopardy to haunt to people, or to animals or property?
10:44:22 Right and and there's. 2 kinds of jeopardy one is somebody could be hit by a bullet right just as somebody could hit be hit by a car.
10:44:30 But there's also a psychological or emotional jeopardy that if people are hearing gunshots just as if they're seeing or hearing speeding cars has an impact on people, it is
a kind of jeopardy for people to live
10:44:45 with, and I for one, and I think that probably a good majority of folks in Cape George do not want to have that adder.
10:44:53 Jeopardy is enough jeopardy in life.
10:44:55 So I just want to make that analogy and and see if that makes sense to you.
10:45:00 It's just a different kind of safety, that We want so thank you Thank you for your comments, Mr.
10:45:08 Stone. Is there anybody else on the attendee list who's with us today Who would like to make in person comment regarding the Cape George?
10:45:20 Proposed Cape Charge. No shooting area. I see. Chris Easter Day has her hand up.
10:45:28 Yeah, the except the promotion of panelists.
10:45:35 And and then oh, Jan was there. But then not Chris.
10:45:41 Chris. Okay, Looks like she might have accepted Jane.
10:45:45 It. It appears that you raised your hand a couple of times.
10:45:49 Jane Ludwig, have you want to be brought over to make comment.
10:45:52 Please use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen, and we'll bring you over.
10:45:58 Okay, I think i'm here now, you're here. you have 3Â min, Okay, i'm gonna do my video.
10:46:05 Yes, I'm also on the board of trustees Cape George and this
10:46:12 No shooting area was started, and petitions by the many members in the community.
10:46:17 I will say that was an I was a overwhelming response.
10:46:21 To not have to have a no shooting area in here.
10:46:25 Colony community. And that was right, proceeded by an incident that actually had a gunfire in the middle of the night, and which was very disturbing to people.
10:46:38 And so this is not just wanting to have a new shooting area.
10:46:40 This is wanting to have a no shooting area, because we actually had someone in the community.
10:46:45 You discharge a firearm, so I am a 100% for
10:46:50 Allowing a notion area, and I I urge you to consider putting this as a permanent I mean junction.
10:46:59 Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate your comments. and It looks like Jane is with us Now, Jane, you're gonna need to understand and that
10:47:09 There you go. You have 3Â min for comment. good morning.
10:47:12 My name is Jane Ludwig, and I live at 1 30 South Polymer in Kate George, and I am also a member of the board of trustees here at Cape George. and I will not take my 3Â min.
10:47:24 But I will just like to say I support what has been said previously, and I think it's very important for our safety and security here in this area to have the the no shoot or
ordinance.
10:47:37 And I thank you very much for your time. And looking at this issue and support this initiative, 100%.
10:47:44 Thank you. Thanks for your comments. and if there's anybody else on the attendee list.
10:47:50 You would like to make comment on the proposed Cape George.
10:47:54 No shooting area, you can do so by using the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen.
10:48:01 And I would just like to add my thanks to Kevin Hitchcock for tuning up the maps for us, and doing all the legal descriptions for the stone shooting area, very grateful for
his
10:48:12 technical prowess. Is there anybody else last call for public testimony on the proposed Cape George?
10:48:25 No shooting area, not seeing any additional hands go up.
10:48:33 Kate, is that a new kate dean hand up you're gonna have to unmute to let me know if that's Okay, do you have something?
10:48:46 Yeah, I think we just wanna tell folks that if they were we did get a petition last week from the Jolie Way neighborhood seeking a no shooting area, and so
10:49:02 That petition process. time has to with your number so so we're going to consider that in a few weeks or look at that one next step for that.
10:49:12 But to learn, functionality will not be included. Yeah, I think we felt like that was a geographically distinct area, and would need its own process.
10:49:25 We will move forward with that. Okay? So I already did last call.
10:49:32 Is there any itchy finger out there that wants to make a comment?
10:49:35 Okay, not hearing it. so. The public hearing is now closed, and we have already said at the beginning of this hearing that we would deliberate next week as part of our regular
agenda, so that Commissioner Dean could be with us.
10:49:53 But I saw your finger, Greg and I I would I I feel like I.
10:49:58 We can deliberate a little bit this week, since we still have Kate as well just maybe make the final conclusion when we fully have her next week.
10:50:05 But I think honoring the testimony and the work that's gone into it by by giving our our initial feedback would be worthwhile today.
10:50:14 We'll go you can go right ahead if you want I mean I can't sure.
10:50:18 Yeah happy to You know I appreciate everyone testifying and the work that's gone into this
10:50:24 I think that this this is the smaller area. that we're considering today is is a very reasonable geography for a no shooting area, and obviously we have the I've no no one against
it today.
10:50:37 I think, in our earlier workshop we had one or 2 people.
10:50:42 A significant minority, I think, there's a demonstrated, you know, risk to to property and and and people in in the kind of the inciting incidence in this and just looking at
the density of the
10:50:54 neighborhood. It seems like a real, a reasonable a reasonable step, and one that the community, as to all the evidence we have overwhelmingly support.
10:51:04 So I can't see any reason for not supporting this no shooting area.
10:51:09 Just in the colony. geography as as presented today.
10:51:13 Yeah. and I agree with that. I mean all the written comment we received since that session on May seventeenth has been in support of the nose shooting area.
10:51:22 And addition to the verbal comment we received today, and much of the verbal or comment we received at that May seventeenth session.
10:51:32 So overwhelmingness support for the snow shooting area.
10:51:38 And Kate, I see your hand up. Yeah, I just want to reiterate, too.
10:51:42 But the The smaller geography we're looking at is important because we did have concerns in the tribe in the workshop, including the public lands in the larger scope.
10:51:55 So I also feel very good about proceeding with the smaller area like that.
10:52:03 It meets the threshold for Yeah. So we will table this issue to make a decision next week.
10:52:13 But overwhelming support for this this smaller nose shooting area.
10:52:21 Great refer to harvey's analog about gun safety and and car safety, and I think that's a great way to look at it.
10:52:28 It's not exactly, and I I don't think it's an exact map for no shooting areas which would prevent cars, I guess.
10:52:33 But I I just I really like that metaphor for gun safety.
10:52:40 As as we move forward on a national, and and you know, wherever the conversation is about gun safety, I think, comparing it to cars and what how we have made cars so much safer
is a great way to proceed.
10:52:51 So I just want to call that out I thought he was gonna propose using those signs to put to put in no shooting area sign underneath the speed limit sign which I don't know if
that's possible.
10:53:02 About Monty want to. We can ask monty use those signposts.
10:53:06 They're on the right hand side though and that's not a no shooting zone as you're going to Cape George from you know. not when you're in the colony Okay, so close
10:53:18 to hearing. I think we'll move on from this Agenda item, unless there's anything else.
10:53:25 Philip Mark, do you have anything you want to add? Okay, Thank you.
10:53:32 Thank you for your your work on this, Philip, and we should have sent one of those donuts down to Kevin before they left the building.
10:53:42 Appreciate all the effort. Okay. So our next agenda item that has a time.
10:53:52 Next to it is the transfer station pit scale replacement bid opening at 1130.
10:53:58 But Maybe we could use this time for calendaring.
10:54:03 Looking forward, and just see if anyone has any conflicts or needs any support.
10:54:11 And then next week, in terms of their calendar I think we've already talked about needing to find support from our public health colleagues for reading the proclamation at the
pride of event on saturday cause We
10:54:27 all have longstanding previous conflicting engagements.
10:54:33 So and I like to call saturday heidi's day, and so I only plan things on saturday other than county commissioner duties.
10:54:40 So they get gobbled up, unfortunately for other, because I would love to be at the pride event.
10:54:48 So who wants to start with their calendar for the next week?
10:54:54 I can go first, How does are we Oh, if we lost Kate?
10:54:58 No, she's still there
10:55:05 Yeah, Kate, you wanna go, thank you sure that'd be great and mine will be a place.
10:55:10 Send time to the invitation. Well, I will not be doing this this afternoon.
10:55:19 I'm gonna jump up here and some point and I will not be at transit meeting up.
10:55:23 I just send this for example, items on each other today.
10:55:28 Tomorrow. I will be joining the housing funds for meetings, and also have a you know, for each citizen.
10:55:38 And planes trains an automobile grade i'm on a plane right now.
10:55:44 I'll be on a train tomorrow during having
10:55:53 No, I actually might not that we had a an agenda notice from agenda for Nodc on like
10:56:06 Yeah, really fun. Wait for me. So it was quick and i'm we're about to take off, so i'm probably gonna drop off here in a second, hey?
10:56:15 We'll have a great break kate get as much rest as you can, and have as much fun as you can
10:56:26 . Yeah. let's see of course yeah Let's see, of course, great to be able to celebrate juneteenth yesterday.
10:56:36 I will be joining at the we have a Jefferson Transit Authority Board Meeting a special meeting.
10:56:43 I'll i'll miss a a long scheduled causal brown second meeting with DCD to do that tomorrow.
10:56:53 Housing Fund Board is is the big one really in important meeting, you know.
10:57:00 We had our our first resignation so we'll be considering applicants to to round out that board again, as well as some some of the smaller committee assignments.
10:57:09 We'll see hopefully, we got some applicants for those got a great presentation from Peggy kind of about the housing continuum.
10:57:17 Just kind of the look at Why, you know. Why is it the county or the city building?
10:57:20 More workforce housing and some great charts that break that down a little bit.
10:57:25 The challenge of the problem. And why are you working with other stakeholders and the nonprofit and and faith based and community role is is so critical to move the needle on
other runs of the housing continuum on
10:57:39 Thursday i'll go to the jeff com meeting if we all met Stacy fairly recently, and then from there we'll be driving out to the West End and making one connection that I have
a variety of activities
10:57:58 plans. i'm gonna try to visit the the whole bucket house, the new veterans house and forks and and and make some tribal connections out there on the West End.
10:58:08 Really, I try to go down to the the quick clear clearwater school, and then floating the ho river with some of the folks that aren't necessarily on board, with some of the whole
resiliency project this design elements and then trying
10:58:24 to understand what the impacts of some of these, you know.
10:58:26 Engineered log jams to protect that side channel at the Linda cot project that we're we got a present presented on recently.
10:58:33 What are the I don't wanna say downstream effects, though the pond kind of just was sitting there waiting for me.
10:58:39 But what are the impacts that people that use the the river recreation on so floating the river.
10:58:46 And then gonna meet with commissioner peach who've been talking a lot about with the the timber issues going on, and he's as well as being on the important natural resources.
10:58:59 He's got a lot of experience with it so I really value value his his insight, and then on on Saturday is the whole Re.
10:59:10 River Valley. Resiliency Summertime Potlook.
10:59:13 Second Potlock kind of meeting with those landowners.
10:59:16 It was at the Fletcher farm last time I think it's at the the public workshop on right right at where that where the that side channel is overtaking, and that is pretty much
my week
10:59:34 No, no complex. You need coverage for I mean i've got some interviews.
10:59:40 I'm not gonna make it to j bat if someone wants to go to Jay Bat.
10:59:44 That's on Friday, but it's not really critical it's the general meeting.
10:59:50 So I I think we can just let that one go.
10:59:52 And then I did I say July first for the open house for Arts olycap public part before I might say June thirtieth, but it's next the following Friday July.
11:00:03 Okay, first from 4 Pm. to 6 Pm. So I got a note from Carolyn that Mark was trying to say something.
11:00:12 Mark, Did you have something you wanted to add? No, I just asked Carolyn.
11:00:17 I wanted to be unmuted. So when my turn comes up I can actually let's see you transit i'm sharing the transit meeting this afternoon.
11:00:29 We're we're running that show with the skeleton crew as Greg just note noted he had to miss an important meeting to meet the make the quorum for transit.
11:00:37 So has a packed agenda this afternoon and it's a short meeting, so we'll be growing fast.
11:00:45 Working with some of our team on a Central Services Director recruitment.
11:00:51 Their strategy this week to replace Mark macaulay who's replaced himself as County Edward vacated Central Services Director to become our permanent county administrator.
11:01:04 So we need to refill that position. I have a number of constituent meetings this week.
11:01:10 I have a trustland transfer Provider work group meeting.
11:01:14 Our last one of the phase 2 work group is this week i'm going to tour the Beaver Valley sorts timber sale with my Cronin, who was the Dnr forester for 3 or 4 decades in
11:01:28 Jefferson County, i'm attending a Trustland transfer constituent work group meeting as well.
11:01:39 There's been a parallel to our proviso work group. There's been a set of constituents working to understand the changes that the Proviso work group is proposing and I am presenting
at the
11:01:55 democratic meeting on all these forestry conversations we're having on Thursday and i'm i'm feeling like i'm gonna be a little bit of a disappointment. because I I feel like
we have a lot of questions, and we have
11:02:08 now have a lot more answers, and We haven't really had a chance to talk with each other.
11:02:14 So I don't know it'll just be you know what we've learned so far, and what we've done so far.
11:02:20 And then letting them know that there's there's much work ahead, and maybe if they're interested they can tune in next Monday, when we have this on our agenda and then I will
be out of the area
11:02:32 on Friday and the weekend and we'll be bringing home whatever sculpture is is left after the weekend, and I don't think we'll be going anywhere for a while after that so I don't
have
11:02:46 any conflicts this week, although I can't do anything on Friday or Saturday, or Sunday.
11:02:52 How about you, Mark, now, that you're back in the saddle What is your week?
11:02:56 Look like. Well, it's good to be a short one again.
11:03:03 Of course you know Monday was the holiday and i'm off off Friday.
11:03:09 So. tomorrow You mentioned already a meeting with Proffman to talk about the Central services.
11:03:16 Director position. so we can get that process started i've got a policy management group meeting on my on my calendar.
11:03:24 I've got to verify. that that's actually happening and then i'll be listening in on the housing fund board meeting because of the I mean. That's a heavy duty meeting deciding
hopefully what to do
11:03:37 with 1590 monies. and then I think the 18 meeting will be scheduled at 4 o'clock tomorrow. Thursday.
11:03:51 Chel combined 1 one and then Heidi.
11:03:54 I see on my calendar that you have check in and agenda prep. with Monty.
11:04:00 But i'm here for that I know I I changed it last week, and I tried to change it back. and I don't know I i'm working on that.
11:04:07 It's it's our standing calendar item that I changed from Montie last week.
11:04:11 So okay, alright. so i'll do that with you on on per se.
11:04:16 Yeah, and that's it sounds good and it looks like the weather's gonna be good.
11:04:22 This weekend I have sunny and a little warmer, so good for the river, good for the the slew and the gadget good for Mark's weekend on the lake.
11:04:34 Hopefully, although, as he reminded me, this this some more that that's a large body of water that will not be warm yet.
11:04:42 So. Okay. Well, that's looking forward for us is there anything else we want to cover before our 1130 bid opening Now,
11:04:59 Hmm. Oh, since we're we're without gate now. you know i'd be happy to to wait until 1130 for that bit.
11:05:07 It's got a little bit better? Okay, so let's resource, recess, until like 1128, and come back for the bit opening.
11:31:04 Almost got baby. mine was but it's off now
11:31:28 There might turn it off again
11:31:35 Al, did you get a donut delivery awesome?
11:31:42 I was like, Take those to public works, please. So did the guy who brought them.
11:31:49 He wanted to make sure you got one. Okay, I will.
11:31:58 Calls back into order still got a av caption going in the background.
11:32:05 I don't carolyn do you I don't hear anymore.
11:32:12 Oh, i'm running av capture, but i'm not playing it back.
11:32:15 It. It was mine. Oh, okay, okay, good. With that all the versions of av capture that we had running off now, except for the one that needs to be running and calling us back
into order, and we have one item on our agenda one more
11:32:33 item marriage into this morning, and that's a bit opening regarding the transfer gay station pit scale replacement project.
11:32:42 And we have this steam solid waste director al karen's with us to tell us a little more about this project.
11:32:50 Happy to thank you. So the pit scales are located underneath where the trailers are stage, where we push garbage into it off of the tipping floor their original equipment installed
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11:33:05 93, you probably achieve the highest return on investment.
11:33:09 You could from that type of equipment, does take quite a bit of abuse.
11:33:14 Presently the scales are we're challenged with calibrating them parts or unavailable
11:33:23 And so it's time to replace them significant investment in the infrastructure out there.
11:33:29 But a necessary one. so we published a bid and we're about to open the 3 that we received today.
11:33:44 No further ado that's good Sorry i'm Sorry this been opening was extended from an original date.
11:33:53 That's correct. We pushed it back a week and a day
11:33:59 Yeah. it was originally listed as June thirteenth.
11:34:05 And what is the engineer estimate? Do you have an estimate on this project?
11:34:13 2, 57, 5, 11 Thanks. Sorry i'm eating a cookie Okay,
11:34:27 Without further ado, first bid is submitted from Fairbank Scales
11:34:38 What's their location airbanks is Woodland, Washington
11:34:52 Right on. I 5
11:35:02 But here we go.
11:35:13 Airbanks did not complete the table 4, which was lowest, responsive bid amount, that amount being the construction contract cost and the total of 5 years of maintenance and
service.
11:35:28 They did submit to bids and see if I can.
11:35:37 Quickly. Fine a little bit them out there
11:35:45 Looks like i'll have to do some further analysis on this in order to get total bin amount for the 2 bits, since they didn't use the bid package form to submit the pricing on
that Okay,
11:36:04 Next up is unitech corporation out of Tuck Willow Washington.
11:36:11 It was a munite tech unitech it's u n I T.
11:36:16 E. C. Alright, thank you,
11:36:31 And the total on is $279,542 and 71 cents.
11:36:40 That's 2, 7, 9, 5, 4, 2 7 one thank you
11:36:53 Next is, and they are out of kent Washington I'm. Sorry can you say that again? Micelli Measurement Group Micelli is spelled Mi C. h E. L.
11:37:09 L. I measurement group that's correct i'm sorry did you say the location Ken, Thank you
11:37:42 200
11:37:43 $268,117 and 31 cents. that's 2, 6, 8, 1, 1, 7, 31 correct.
11:37:55 So we just need to figure out what that fairbanks number is that's correct.
11:38:01 And i'll speak with carolyn about that as soon as I figure out what the contract amounts are for that.
11:38:10 Okay, So we'll we'll put a bit summation together.
11:38:16 We'll get that posted shortly we expect probably have a contract for the board's consideration in 2 to 3 weeks.
11:38:25 Okay, great, and I was assuming you would need to do some analysis on the various bids, just just like every other set of envelopes.
11:38:32 I've seen you open so that's great okay one question .
11:38:37 I did. I just wanna make sure. I I I know as we, you know, begin a capital planning endeavor.
11:38:45 This is for the scales as they are today.
11:38:48 So just one laying in one line out is what we're bidding for just replacement for the the time being.
11:38:53 That's correct. No reconfiguration of the of the transfer station.
11:39:00 We'll continue to bat trailers, and we will extend the forward scales out, so that we can capture the full weight of the trailer as well.
11:39:10 Gotcha. And now these are not the schales that we, as customers, drive across.
11:39:13 These are the scales in the we don't have 2 sets of scales yet.
11:39:19 That's that's a still a gleam in Alzheimer's eye.
11:39:30 Okay, So these are the scales that I drive across when I no, they're they're in the in the pit.
11:39:37 So they're below the shoot yeah the scales that you drive across at the scale house are are different different type of scales. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I was trying to clarify.
11:39:40 These are These are not the scales we all drive across.
11:39:42 Only on Saturday, when we we we we hope to not have to replace those scales until we've figured out.
11:39:49 You know the the the site and the configuration for a new transfer station.
11:39:55 Great thanks for that clarification , awesome. Okay?
11:39:59 Well, we look forward to the update. Yeah. Okay.
11:40:09 1140, and there's nothing left at our agenda until a executive session at one.
11:40:18 Oh, 1 30 correct, 1 30, so
11:40:24 Is there anything this illustrates little gaggle of folks wants to talk about?
11:40:32 Or should we just recess until 1 30, and come back for executive session?
11:40:38 Sounds good. We'll come back into public session and then go into the exact . .
13:30:58 Philip just sent a new link
13:31:10 Philip just sent a new link. Philip just sent a newly the executive session just to let you guys know.
13:31:20 Okay, welcome back, folks. I will call this meeting of the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners back to order and hope.
13:31:29 Everyone had a good lunch break. we are gonna be immediately going into executive session with our county administrator, chief, civil deputy, prosecuting attorney code, component
coordinator, an environmental health water
13:31:44 quality manager regarding potential litigation. Exemption is outlined in the open click meetings.
13:31:49 Act. Rcw. 42 does 110 parentheses one parentheses.
13:31:56 I, we're gonna go into executive session now at 1, 31, and come out at 2 o one.
14:04:00 We'd be excited then nope
14:04:14 Okay, It looks like we're live we are coming out of executive session with the county administrator, chief, civil deputy, prosecuting, attorney code, compliance, coordinator
and environmental health water quality,
14:04:25 manager regarding potential litigation. Exemption is outlined in the open Public meetings.
14:04:30 Act. Rcw. 42, 3,110 parentheses, one Parentheses I.
14:04:37 And we will not be extending. Okay, Mark has to accept my promotion to panelists.
14:04:46 But he's here