HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:01:38 But yeah, it looks great. I mean just to see money breaking a sweat out of gone yeah, yeah, 1 one shovel's worth for the photo
09:01:55 Somebody's got maybe not got it. Okay, Well, on my phone, which I realize most people go by cell phone time these days.
09:02:08 It says 9 o'clock, I hear the times dinging upstairs.
09:02:14 So I will call this April fifteenth, 22, or August.
09:02:18 Sorry. August fifteenth, 2022 meeting of the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners to order.
09:02:27 Good morning, everyone. it's been a active week. in our community and out in the world with the county fair and all the stuff going on the why and
09:02:42 So, anyway, Kate, you have something you wanna comment on Yeah. I just wanted to to talk a little bit about the Y Ymca. situations.
09:02:49 It's been such a hot topic in my district and I know a lot of people care deeply about it.
09:02:54 Just one to express my support for the Ymca.
09:02:59 In following State law and the city, and supporting the Ymca.
09:03:02 Following the State law, and and expressed my support for the Trans.
09:03:06 Community. it's it's sad to see a local issue become so blown up in the far right wing media and stirring the pot across the country on this issue.
09:03:17 You know I raised my kids at that pool they learned to swim there, and I think it's great that they have a a diversity of staff there, and I couldn't care less what what gender
as a person has that's
09:03:31 teaching my kids to swim, or even taking them into the bathroom.
09:03:35 On the changing room. So I just I think it's really a non issue.
09:03:40 And when I express my support for the Ymca.
09:03:43 And the city really upholding those rights that are guaranteed by our State, and really glad to live in a State that guarantees those rights absolutely.
09:03:52 Well said I was gonna say something, too, but you said it so much more eloquently.
09:03:56 Yeah, I'm: just wondering if we we wanna if we can do anything else to to help is really they have reached out to one of the leaders in the the trans community, and asked if
there's any way we can support and they said
09:04:09 they'd get back to me if there is so I just I mean it's really disturbing to to know how much hate mail our colleagues at the city are getting from across the country it's
09:04:22 just, you know, really unfair, and my my heart is with everyone affected by this absolutely well.
09:04:35 And I also mentioned the fair. It was nice to have the fare up and running again.
09:04:38 This this last weekend, after a couple of years of very different fairgrounds.
09:04:45 So I I went out and and joined the fun on Saturday afternoon, and was glad to get my wrapping paper from the poor towns and paper mill and also to go to the book mobile.
09:04:58 I remember as a kid going to the book mobile when it came to my neighborhood, and it's just this this thing for me.
09:05:05 I love going in the book, Mobile the Fair. so, anyway, checked out some books and Greg and other people, and their boots have a lot of great conversations.
09:05:19 Anyway, it was just great to see the fair happen happening again.
09:05:23 Yeah, I I was there all weekend and loved it.
09:05:27 Love that it it existed again, you know, and it was back in full force, you know not as many chickens and ducks or no chickens and ducks.
09:05:35 This animal. But yeah, great to see the campground filled with, you know, forest enthusiasm from all over the State.
09:05:43 Yeah. just just loved it. 4 H. warm the cockles of my heart.
09:05:49 And one of the conversations I had at the fair they said how many people show up on Monday morning, and I realized that people who join us as attendees can't see the list of
who's with us so this morning we have about
09:06:01 50 folks from the community. It looks like who joined us.
09:06:06 So that seems about kind of middle of the road bigger than sound weeks, smaller than other weeks.
09:06:13 So maybe that's good. this is a good bell weather for what the trend is Anyway, that was one of my fair conversations, and we don't know as well who are just watching on av
capture.
09:06:24 We don't have those numbers anymore right anything else anyone wants to bring up for the go to the order.
09:06:35 Okay, So, as we do every Monday morning, we are happy to see the members of our community who get up early to join us.
09:06:45 Are there someone calling? not silent that and if anyone has anything that they wanna make public comment about this morning, we'd be happy to hear, and you can use the raise
hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen is anything
09:07:02 that you wanna talk about that's on our agenda for today or something.
09:07:06 You wanna comment on is going on in the community feel free to raise your hand using that raise hand.
09:07:16 Button on your zoom screen and we'll bring you over for a public comment.
09:07:19 See some of the names on the attendee list I can't believe all these people are being quiet.
09:07:27 Yeah, this is a second week in a row. It seems that people are quiet.
09:07:36 No, no, not seeing any hands go up. Well, we can leave public comment open till 9, 30, and maybe do some briefing from last week.
09:07:49 Are we good? let's do consent do you want to consent. first.
09:07:53 Okay, let's go consent out of the way and then we'll do some briefing, and anything that anyone wants to call out from the consent agenda this week.
09:08:04 Lots of good stuff again. I had a question about one thing and it's really just process.
09:08:13 I was confused. Let me see like i'm fine which one was the oh number 2. Is it look like more vhac funds to to supplement the gabby gateway to freedom the the
09:08:38 jail services. Yeah, Yeah. gateway freedom. And I was just curious.
09:08:44 It seemed like it. wasn't a bhacc request right i'm i'm happy to do it i'm fully supportive of it.
09:08:50 I just am curious how it came in front of us, and a public health is it?
09:08:56 Staff is making recommendations for vhs h ac phones i'm thinking this might be the that additional allocations that we gave to organizations, and maybe this one just hadn't
been given yet that's I can check with
09:09:15 apple on this one. Yeah, what number is that great number?
09:09:19 What
09:09:26 Hmm.
09:09:32 But other than that, just lots of great stuff, you know. great to see engineering contract for the little closing bridge, and and that we have a contractor for the DCD.
09:09:42 Shoreline sea level rise so yeah just that's a good work.
09:09:48 I'm really glad to see a contract with andrea Kunson for counseling, and the school clinics really wonderful that we have a provider there.
09:09:58 And also wanted to call out just also glad that that we are able.
09:10:05 I think we're we're lucky that we're able to do substance. use evaluation for just about anyone who who wants it in the jail.
09:10:13 I don't know is it done regardless if folks wanted or not in the jail, I think it's part of the intake.
09:10:20 Yeah, but I mean, you know without willing participation i'm not sure how effective it is.
09:10:24 Right. Yeah. There was something else just we we mentioned a little bit the jump playgrounds, another contract amendment there, but really great to see that get started.
09:10:39 And so volunteer level into your participation last week i'm Sorry to miss that.
09:10:43 Grateful that Mallory is re-upping her parks and recognizery.
09:10:48 Boards role she's been serving for a long time on that role in in that role.
09:10:53 So grateful for that, and looks like a new appointment.
09:10:57 Good stuff, pretty worked, I don't know what a preceptor is.
09:11:02 It was great that we're getting students from Baylor working in public health nursing.
09:11:08 But you know what a preceptor is. preceptor services.
09:11:13 Hmm! vocabulary challenge I Look through the contract, but I still don't understand me, too.
09:11:20 I assumed it was that some sort of oversight for testing curriculum kind of thing that I didn't.
09:11:28 I didn't actually Google. It that's fine I did notice on that that numbered item number 2.
09:11:33 That the recommendation seems to be a holdover from a previous contract, mark.
09:11:38 So you might wanna the recommendation on item 2 on the consent refers to Jumping mouse and mental health services for young children. And so I think it's a leftover from a previous
document.
09:11:51 And you're gonna wanna update that for the discover or gateway to freedom.
09:11:58 Right. Yeah. Okay. Yep. But i'm almost positive that those were the additional amounts that we were able to grant out to each provider.
09:12:09 And this probably just took a little longer to get the contract together.
09:12:13 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I don't need anyone That's that totally .
09:12:19 And one other thing is we gotta get going on our capital plan.
09:12:22 We gotta stop leasing that portable let's get a real one in there, right?
09:12:27 Well, we're gonna have a workshop on capitol and Arpa again here very shortly and there have been some changes.
09:12:36 Some of the items that the board approved for for capital expenditures, and 2223.
09:12:45 We've made it we've we've backed off of a 2023 expenditure.
09:12:51 And so there's capacity in the capital fund to buy that building.
09:12:54 So i'm gonna I talked to money at lunchtime today, and discuss that with him
09:13:04 I think in 3 and a half years will have bought the building by paying this much in rent.
09:13:11 Oh, is it? Is it a least goodbye I I like I said.
09:13:15 I've got a but you know what you could do you could pull that item and
09:13:22 I could have a discussion with money, and then you could approve it.
09:13:24 Later in the day. Sure, yeah. number 9 yep Well, i'm happy to move that we minus item number 9 which I like to pull.
09:13:37 I move to approve and adopt the consent agenda i'll. second, i'll just add put that change to item number 2: right?
09:13:50 Yeah, the recommendation will move, modify that. so that it comports with the subject of the agenda request.
09:13:57 Okay, just as governor's. there though right we don't need to amend Yeah, all in favor.
09:14:04 Hi: Okay. passes unanimously with the mentioned modifications.
09:14:14 And yeah, number Number 9 i'll come back to you after a bit.
09:14:19 Okay, I So Let's go back to public comment I see that Julia Cochrane has joined us and has her hand up.
09:14:26 And for the benefit of the gentleman, and talk to me at the county fair.
09:14:30 There are about 20 folks from the public who joined us this morning, so we will bring Julia over, and here comments from her.
09:14:43 Good morning, Julia. You'll need to unmute
09:14:50 The only Okay, Hi! You have 3Â min for comments.
09:14:56 Good morning. I parked for 21Â h so i'm a bit of ex exhausted 2 things.
09:15:11 One thing is is that thank you so much for Kate for your comments, and for all of you, and supporting her comments.
09:15:18 I I am very stressed about what's Going to happen downtown tonight, and I view it as a proxy war. that this is, has to do with the national agenda has literally nothing to do
with us nothing City Council can do is
09:15:31 to going to change reality. the wise not couldn't change reality and i'm glad for that.
09:15:41 And I also wanted to thank you for the change in administration at the Fair Grounds.
09:15:46 It was such a pledger to work with Toby and Dan.
09:15:50 I think, Mc. Henry, I may be saying it wrong. but I very, very much enjoyed working with them, and it was so nice to to be on the fair grounds, and to feel welcome, because
I have not felt welcome for like a decade
09:16:04 so. So yay, Thank you, guys, Thanks Julia anyone else who's with us this morning?
09:16:15 He would like to make a public comment you can Do so by using the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen.
09:16:21 Nobody's on the phone. So i'm not gonna give that instruction.
09:16:26 Anyone else who's with us of the 20 folks who are with us this morning have anything that they wanna comment on, or question they might have, or something they wanna share right
You have something i'll reply to julie as comment while we see if
09:16:46 anyone else would like to contribute something. you know. Yeah, we remain allies to the to the trans community and to to all people.
09:16:55 So yeah, absolutely, we are here, and I just create where credit is due.
09:17:00 You know, we really had nothing to do with with Danny becoming the the fair manager.
09:17:03 I agree. it was a a great, very welcoming fair, and and happy to have all, and Toby assisting is great. But
09:17:14 The fair board hired him, and he he took the position so credit work credit to do.
09:17:20 But I'm really really happy to to be moving forward with that group.
09:17:23 Yeah, I hear that doing roller skating sometimes. Yeah. has anyone went and witnessed that?
09:17:34 Nope. found my skates the other day anyone else.
09:17:43 Anyone else with us wanna make a public comment. if that will leave public comment open till 9 30, and maybe do some briefing.
09:17:53 Does anyone wanna get you on My tells what you did last week?
09:17:58 Sure. Yep. So we were here all day. Monday, of course.
09:18:04 Then Tuesday it had a Economic Development Council of Finance Committee meeting and really trying to narrow in on number of important policies.
09:18:14 And so that that's ongoing work had a climate action committee meeting Monday afternoon, or excuse me Tuesday afternoon.
09:18:26 And we'll be Plan We are planning a outreach events to present the forestry work that a subcommittee of the Climate Action Committee did which was presented to us by city jane
a few months ago.
09:18:40 so that will be good to the public and appreciate their
09:18:48 The willingness desire to ensure that it is the workshop is helpful to our process, as we navigate stuff with dnr, and not doesn't raise any
09:18:58 How goes our expectations around that process that they they understand the need to keep that pretty separate. And
09:19:04 So working on that, and that was it. I had a short week.
09:19:08 I went to Shannon County and did a lot of hiking and camping and sitting in cool rivers and really appreciate it.
09:19:15 But being in another county, it's so funny in this job You know everywhere you travel, that you look at the world differently.
09:19:21 You look at their infrastructure, and who you know, who maintains this?
09:19:25 And how do they fund that? So, especially another rural county, with a lot of recreation?
09:19:29 And beautiful natural area. it's always fun to to be a visitor and not have responsibility for all those things short week.
09:19:40 But Glad to be back in the saddle today. Glad you got out there out in the world.
09:19:51 Shall I go Yeah, alright with you guys on Monday on Tuesday Met with the tourism coordinating council, And you know what's going gangbusters talks a lot about you know road
closures
09:20:06 and then the chip seal It happened on 101, and just like kind of the impacts throughout you know they're doing a lot of chip ceiling over on the West End.
09:20:14 They're Claylock right now as well so it's. it's amazing how far that ripples the quilting Brennan and power teams had a summer meeting instead of a September meeting since
09:20:24 we often don't have educators able to come in the September meeting, as they're all clamoring back to school.
09:20:30 So just kind of taking stock and and evaluating the the programs coming up.
09:20:35 But it's it's going Great with the the funding Opportunities Committee of the Housing Fund Board.
09:20:42 The first meeting of that committee we had Michael Michael Mark from our our new advance administrator calm and just kind of talk about capacity, and you know, kind of met with
him really and looking for a path there's
09:20:57 not a real mandate for this group other than to kind of keep our eyes open.
09:21:02 Great to work with with Bob Davis our newest member who has a lot of experience, being the director of that is no homage.
09:21:09 Housing, housing authority, and I guess know how much. Hey?
09:21:13 How's the authority? and Then also on Wednesday. Met with the community conversation committee, and getting ready for the Icg meeting this week?
09:21:24 Just kind of talking about housing fun board and and also that I was going to basically take the county spot to talk about county efforts in in the housing arena and included
that housing fun boards kind of in that in that
09:21:41 group. So i'll be working on a on a presentation today and tomorrow. see!
09:21:49 On Wednesday had a Jeff Comm special meeting to discuss a hiring and retention, incentives mou.
09:22:01 That the that staff had presented. We went through it, made a few changes and are are sending that back to the to the marketing unit to see if they will accept it.
09:22:12 But it basically accepted their basic tenants of the $6,000 hiring bonus for like full time and retention was that was a retention attention and hiring with the same But Yeah.
retention.
09:22:29 Attention and centers. We just change the the time to send back to the boarding unit that they have to actually stay.
09:22:37 So did that orca was you know pretty clean air It hasn't been a horrible forest fire year in Washington yet.
09:22:46 There's lots that are going right now, but lots of people I talked to are are leaving Washington to go fight forest fires and Alaska and Arizona, and and everywhere else working
on the the the Developer meeting
09:23:03 with 7 Haven. we'll have a little we talk mostly about chip which we'll be talking about later today.
09:23:07 Have the agenda planning meeting for the the Board of Health, and then I also, on Friday, met with one of our new Board of Health members, just to kind of give a a soft onboarding
Both of our new Board of health members are going
09:23:22 to be attending the training in spokane for new board of health numbers, so they will probably be our our resource to get the most up-to-date information.
09:23:32 So i'm really excited about that really excited talking to aj and kind of just I mean not about any particular agendas or anything just learning about her making sure that that
she felt welcome and and welcome, to contribute as
09:23:47 much or as little whenever she wanted. So I think it was a really positive conversation. on Thursday.
09:23:54 We had the the clean water district meeting, and always always very educational.
09:24:01 There good meeting, and now my and everything missed. Of course, the behavioral Health Consortium meeting.
09:24:09 Oh, on on Wednesday evening we also had the the regular meeting of of the Oak Cap Board.
09:24:16 Still you know, staffing issues going on. But we are ramping up the first guaranteed basic income programs.
09:24:26 Did I tell you about about that? All the folks have been stolen?
09:24:29 But there was stolen selected it's been made to say
09:24:34 There was a an anonymous donor that wanted to create a guarantee basic income program.
09:24:39 So. so we have, you know. I think $200,000 for a year of you know. it's kind of a sliding scale based on how big the family is, But so they're going through client lists and
selecting those members
09:24:52 now, and the program is starting to ramp up. People are very excited about it. And and you know we've heard I've read a lot about some some really positive impacts, you know,
almost like the child tax credit you know, just people
09:25:06 need this this money for for food security, and for for wind security.
09:25:11 So excited about that, and question about that great Well, will that program be be tracking kind of outcomes from it. Yeah, No, that's part of it.
09:25:24 And it is Jefferson and Cloudland County is an olycap program.
09:25:27 So both 2 county program, but yeah there there's their following up, and i'll i'll open back reports so it's a week, so we can share that information thank you
09:25:41 And then Friday most of Friday as I said I did a couple of things, but and missed one conversation because I was at the fair all day had to bring my hot spot down.
09:25:50 I don't think they've put that verizon tower that we have a contract for up yet, because there's no verizon service down there that actually Commissioners verizon terminated
its
09:26:03 arrangement with Celco, the one that we were negotiating with and so the fairground cell tower effort.
09:26:13 Is now, dormant yeah it's it's a wasteland for verizon users out there.
09:26:18 So I brought my team a lot, but on day, too, it it was fine, but so Mr.
09:26:24 Call, and was at the fair all day Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, so I am a little a little peek at today myself.
09:26:31 But it was great great weekend and and love just seeing people, and I don't know in the greasy food.
09:26:38 Banana leaf was down there. Have to have good food all weekend.
09:26:41 So love it, do you? kiss any babies you know I I gave some high fives debate because I thought about kissing one baby, and I just I don't think I have flies anymore.
09:26:54 Hey? Well, i'm gonna make a last call for public comments.
09:26:59 Before telling you what I did last week if I had time not We'll wait till later.
09:27:05 Is there anybody with us who would like to make a public comment this morning?
09:27:10 If so, you can use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom.
09:27:15 Screen. No one's on the phone no unidentified person is on the phone, so I don't see any hands going up. so i'll just briefly tell you what happened in my world last week.
09:27:31 On Monday I went out to fort warden and did a walk around with the port towns and school of the Arts to hear about their plans for what's gonna happen out there. when the kind
of new structure is put
09:27:46 in place, and they actually occupy more buildings. with potters, ceramics, and jewelry, studio and ceramics, and just really exciting to see kind of the arts.
09:27:59 Really embracing the some of the new facilities at Fort Warden, and I think it'll be a great arts incubator for the region, and drop drawn nationally.
09:28:11 I imagine. and then Tuesday I know what the constituent from Marstone Island, and then spend a big chunk of the day, and not just.
09:28:22 We coordinate our interviews. This is a role that was recently vacated, and it's a very important role in our community.
09:28:29 It's the person who kind of keeps his eyes on the ground and mobilizes volunteers to get out and remove annoxious weeds from all parts of Jefferson County.
09:28:40 And so we were excited to get that position refilled, and we had some great applicants, and did for interviews last week.
09:28:49 I had a meeting with Chief Black about various fire issues, but mostly talking about community wildfire planning and kind of the beginnings of mobilizing in partnership with
each Jefferson fire and rescue around community
09:29:06 wildfire Planning Wednesday evening I had an Olympic discovery.
09:29:12 Trail peninsula trails. coalition board meeting that's their big penanceal wide board meeting, and then I think we're gonna hear from them.
09:29:20 I think It's later today. So get you guys an update, and next week I will be doing the ian's ride out on this Bruce.
09:29:30 This Bruce rail section with marty, gay and powered wheelchairs.
09:29:34 I said, Marty, you should come with me. So Marty and I are gonna do that together.
09:29:39 Super excited about that next Friday, cool. Yeah, I did it last year, and it was great awesome.
09:29:48 Trustland transfer worker. We wrapped up the pilot project.
09:29:52 The rankings last week, and our project devils Lake came in Number 2 on our list of, I think, 11 projects first was Eglon and Kitzap Forest, and then Devil's Lakes very narrowly
being defeated
09:30:06 by Edwin. So we'll be very hopeful that we can get those projects funded.
09:30:11 I think the total we're still waiting for dnr to put out a total number for that list.
09:30:17 But I think it'll be in the 20,000,020 to 30 million.
09:30:23 I don't know a smaller a smaller trust Then transfer asked than has been funded in the past.
09:30:32 We had the per cop dug lunch on Thursday, which is fine.
09:30:38 Mark, and I did agenda prep. Friday I started my Encumbered Lands working group meetings had a kickoff meeting on Friday with commissioners from Scamania with kayakum Pacific
09:30:53 counties and anyway. Very interesting conversation and we'll have a number of additional meetings over the next month to try and get to a place of a solution with the encumbered
lands issue.
09:31:10 But it's it's a big hairy issue and you know there's the whole lands encumbered by spotted out restrictions, lands, and covered my marble moulette restrictions, Jefferson
09:31:21 county is more on the marble Murat side. A number of those counties are on the spotted outside.
09:31:26 And where did those 2 meet? Where do those 2 conversations meet?
09:31:30 And that was a big part of our initial discussion.
09:31:37 Friday evening. I This is the fun thing. I attended the the farm dinner at the end at Port Lava, which was great.
09:31:45 It was spring rain farms night to be featured and it was just fun to go ahead.
09:31:50 I haven't been out to dinner in a long time like really out to dinner, so I have courses and lots of spring rain farm ingredients, and was the flip side of my Sundays, which
have been working in the ballard
09:32:03 farmers market with spring rain. So field up on Friday, empty the tank on Sunday.
09:32:10 In the middle of that is sampling some time at the fair, and it was it was really heartwarming to see the fair in action, and I was fun that the avian flu had emptied out the
the
09:32:24 poultry barn. I always love looking at all the chickens.
09:32:27 But Anyway, that was the it was a It was worth it tonight to not have the chickens.
09:32:33 The hog is made up for him. So And then yeah, yesterday was Boward all day.
09:32:40 So that was my last week. i'm gonna make one final call for public comments.
09:32:48 Last call folks Anyone with us who would like to make a comment this morning.
09:32:57 Raise your hand, using the raise hand button at the bottom of the zoom screen.
09:33:00 If not, i'm gonna i'm gonna close public comment i'm, closing public comment.
09:33:05 So we have about 10Â min until We're joined by Dr.
09:33:09 Barry and Willie Bens doing. We wanna look forward unless Mark has anything to report from last week.
09:33:22 A lot of internal administrative meetings with staff and whatnot.
09:33:26 That with Judy Shepherd we're working on a policy for the Board regarding financial assistance to special revenue funds to help protect the general fund and to only transfer
to those funds what they
09:33:40 need not fixed amounts that they keeping fund balance at the end of the year.
09:33:47 Had a 18 meeting at Point Hudson with with Aaron Kevin and John
09:33:59 That was Tuesday. Then a Jeff come 9, 1 one meeting to consider retention and hiring bonuses; then a courthouse, it meeting with with with Dj. Dennick and staff, from the courthouse,
had a meeting
09:34:14 with Philip pennsylvania to Talk about the torque claim that we've got the 3 million dollar one met with Bridget Greg on the wc extension Budget and and then met with
09:34:29 Brent Butler. In the afternoon following that Thursday I attended the CEO breakfast with Cindy Brooks, with Edc and Heidi.
09:34:39 This was the same sort of thing with the arts dead.
09:34:43 Fort Warden and North Wind Arts. We had a presentation, and then a tour.
09:34:48 We walked from building the building. I think 14 or 17 buildings total, so quite division.
09:34:57 They. they anticipate a 600% increase in volume students and and otherwise.
09:35:04 And a fair number of them coming from outside the the region.
09:35:09 And so i'm, very encouraged by that and then I sat in on the casual brown meeting, and Mr.
09:35:19 Huntsucker was in on that, and we were talking about the the least document and and that that's coming together.
09:35:25 And then I had lunch with David Timmons at the old whiskey Mill to get an update on pda activities.
09:35:32 Things are moving along there. I think they're doing some deck consolidation, cause he they were having a little bit of difficulty, I think meeting one dead obligation.
09:35:44 And so the bank was very flexible and they I think they've combined a number of those with the same interest rate, and and so on.
09:35:52 That that provides them a little more breathing room met with Heidi.
09:35:58 Then to go over agenda prep. for today. and Then Friday was wide open, and I was able to do some work that I've had stacked up for a while.
09:36:07 So good week. awesome. Who wants to take a look forward on their calendar, Kate?
09:36:15 You want to kick us off? Sure. Yeah, we have a busy week.
09:36:19 We can number of things we're probably all doing together to today.
09:36:26 We'll have meeting over the lunch hour
09:36:29 The Association of Counties, and then or to Health, is setting 8.
09:36:35 Get together this evening to bid farewell to too long standing health members.
09:36:41 So looking forward to that. we will not be discussing any Board of health business, assured Tomorrow let's see.
09:36:50 Meeting with Mark and Brent Butler with Grannicus.
09:36:56 The folks we've been talking about about short term rental potential service provider. and get a better idea of what they have to offer before bringing potentially a proposal
to you to consider Let's see we have a meeting
09:37:12 with an Olympic Development Council to discuss the.
09:37:16 It was energy summit, and There's been just increasing opportunity with the Pacific National Lab P.
09:37:22 Tell and swim. If you saw the cover of the Pdn yesterday showed the
09:37:27 Under Secretary of Energy, was out there with members of Congress, including Congressman Kilmer.
09:37:32 This weekend or end of last week the tell is just really, really, right now they're getting a lot of Federal funding, and they want to do local work for the first time.
09:37:42 So they are sponsoring this energy resilience summit this fall to the planning meeting for that Transit Authority Board meeting Tuesday afternoon.
09:37:54 That of us now coordinating council, briefing with the Executive director in advance of our meeting.
09:38:01 Tomorrow afternoon, then Wednesday meeting. Oh, if you have chats yet to meet Kilmer, it has a new local staff person.
09:38:10 So Mary Jane Robbins was finally replaced. So hey, Shawn is her name.
09:38:16 Be meeting with her on Wednesday morning. for the first time that i'm just meeting in the public helps equity for speed inclusion training.
09:38:29 That's a 10 week I believe commitment so that is also Wednesday morning.
09:38:38 Been going to kilmer's town hall on climate change to coma.
09:38:44 Look forward to hearing how he envisions the the new Inflation Reduction Act.
09:38:50 Coming to play here in Washington, State for meeting Council meeting Good afternoon, and then meeting with call me, do you see?
09:39:01 On some legislative issues in advance of a North Olympic legislative alliance meeting.
09:39:07 So it's a busy week, Wednesday. so is that one So that was Wednesday, Thursday.
09:39:11 Okay. Meeting with the legislative Steering Committee of the Association of Counties just the the co-chairs are meeting to discuss our retreat.
09:39:22 We retreat in September, where we will finalize our legislative agenda North Olympic Development Council Executive Board meeting Thursday morning.
09:39:31 Use advisory board meeting interesting I wonder if that's still happening in Laurie's absence.
09:39:38 We'll see about that that we have board of health meeting on Thursday.
09:39:44 Encourage you to to take a look at the resolution That's what I worked out with.
09:39:51 Ended up getting some really great input both from Dr. Barry and from Junior Fo.
09:39:56 At Jefferson. health care. Jefferson healthcare will be joining us for a resolution on abortion as a reproductive, basically productive and human rights.
09:40:05 And welcome support from the public on that important topic.
09:40:12 Then we have the Intergovernmental collaborative meeting outdoors under the tenth at 20Â s in San Juan, discussing housing with our Icg.
09:40:22 Partners, city ports and pud public is welcome at that.
09:40:26 Looking forward to that. I do have to duck out so a little bit to attend the School Board meeting.
09:40:29 To speak in support of the Child Care Center that the district is considering building up at the pretends in high school and some vacant lands, that they have something important
meeting there.
09:40:41 Friday meeting with Hillary, France Commissioner Public Lands.
09:40:46 Then have a pencil, regional transportation planning organization meeting that our deficit county coordination meeting covid coordination meeting.
09:40:57 So, mark you, and I need to get our heads together on an agenda for that meeting.
09:41:03 Friday Saturday. We'll be attending with James Tom medical assistance clinic opening and then Sunday meeting with the Mayor of Port Angeles. so busy week ahead.
09:41:16 This is one of those weeks that i'm not sure how we do it great, sure you can't be everywhere.
09:41:27 So I will today I'm afraid i'm gonna miss the the going away party. i'll have to catch up with them separately, but I do have a Northwood Canal chamber meeting where we are
voting on whether to merge with the
09:41:39 Jefferson County. chamber We have an mou it's been approved by the Jefferson County Chambers board last week, and there's you know, as these things do renewed interest in preserving
the
09:41:51 Northwood canal chamber so it's gonna be a lively meeting for sure.
09:41:55 Tomorrow I am take joining bnr for the tour throughout Clown County, not the experimental force, but the other one, and i'll be there all day.
09:42:07 And then on Wednesday meeting with the Constituent, then I will also be with
09:42:13 Kate at the Town Hall. The climate action. One with the Kilmer
09:42:19 At noon, and then I will be having dinner with Kisher, Franz and some other folks.
09:42:24 Wednesday evening, then Thursday, Gary Gance the number 3.
09:42:33 The field director of the Washington State had will be joining us for a tour of housing facilities around Jefferson County.
09:42:38 Peter's place pass place seventh even then causal Brown and and a couple of other places that i'm still kind of waiting for final details on, and then the board of health, meeting
looking forward to that and with our our new
09:42:55 members, and then the Icg meeting and I do encourage the public to attend that under the tenth at 20Â s in San Juan, as Kate said, because I think there's a lot of time to sit
down and really have
09:43:06 small groups, with, you know, not just us but all sorts of you know the city and all sorts of other housing providers, and I think it's going to be a really fruitful conversation.
09:43:15 I hope Friday. I have House America at 11, and the general meeting, and then A.
09:43:22 J. Batch and general meeting all hands meeting Friday morning, and that's my week.
09:43:29 Okay, let's see if I can do it in 3Â min. county picnic on on saturday.
09:43:35 Okay, so I will not be attending washack today, because we have the election pre-cvassing board meeting at 1230 today.
09:43:49 And then I will be joining for the Board of Health.
09:43:51 Farewell this evening. as well, Smiley, my dog. and then tomorrow morning I have a special L Tech meeting.
09:44:00 I have a meeting with the Constituent on forestry issues.
09:44:04 I have the election certification meeting. I have the Jefferson Transit Board meeting with you guys.
09:44:10 I have a meeting on Jefferson county's forestry program, and I have a meeting about the habitat housing project import headlock with farmers in chimicum all day.
09:44:22 Wednesday I will be attending the olympic experimental forest section of the Board of National Resources meeting for the whole day with them.
09:44:30 I'm gonna get in the band with them Thursday.
09:44:34 I have a meeting with the Edc. to talk about some work that we're doing in collaboration with the Community Foundation and the Ec.
09:44:41 I have a Community Foundation Board meeting. I have a trustland transfer Advocates Group meeting.
09:44:47 I have agenda prep. with Mark. I have the Board of Health, and I have the Icg with you guys.
09:44:54 Hi. I am also meeting with Commissioner franz in the morning and Squim and I have an encumbered lands working group meeting in the afternoon, so I'm not sure which end will
be up all week, but it'll be
09:45:08 a i'll be a blurred well i'll be a blur this week, and it looks like we're coming up.
09:45:14 We're screaming up to well 9 44.
09:45:16 So i'm gonna with my hand to our friends at Kptz and Tom turn on the airwaves and get ready for our update with Dr.
09:45:27 Barry and I see that we updated the name of our weekly community update to the Covid 19 monkey pox and emergency management updates.
09:45:39 So monkey Pox has mpv yeah yeah, it's kind of and then caroline we need to bring willie over as well. and then it looks like it's still 9 44 so i'm not
09:45:53 sure if we're. on the airwaves yet. but we'll just this whole phone time versus computer time thing throws me off every week. so it looks like we're at 9 45.
09:46:12 So let's start with Dr. Mary this week What's what's the word on the street? Dr.
09:46:20 Barry. Hi there, Thank you so much for having me i'm gonna try calling in.
09:46:25 In addition to being on video and hopes. that we don't have any more blip-outs.
09:46:28 This week. So a little bit of good news on the Covid 19 front.
09:46:33 We are continuing to see cases down trend at the national level.
09:46:36 So down 17% nationwide in the last 2 weeks.
09:46:41 Hospitalizations are starting to down trend as well, so that 3% down at the national level deaths, unfortunately, are continuing to rise.
09:46:50 They are a lagging indicator but it is concerning to see that number continue to go up.
09:46:55 We're losing just under 500 Americans a day due to in Washington State cases and hospitalizations are following a similar trend to what we're seeing nationwide.
09:47:07 So we are seeing those down training and actually our hospitalizations are going down a little bit faster than what we're seeing at the nation's.
09:47:15 We thankfully, are seeing our deaths remain stable at the Washington State levels.
09:47:20 We're not seeing significant rights in Jefferson county Kate rates are down trending.
09:47:28 So we are down to we are have diagnosed 5,435 cases of Covid 19.
09:47:33 That puts us at a case rate of 457 per 100,000 and a percent positivity of 14%.
09:47:42 Both of those are down which is hopeful and suggest that our case ascertainment rate is getting a little bit higher. I still probably put it closer to 40%, and we can talk about
we got a good Kptc question about how We figure
09:47:52 that out, so we can talk a little bit about where those numbers come from.
09:48:00 We have 3 individuals currently hospitalized for Covid 19, which is up a bit.
09:48:03 One of those is still the person who was hospitalized for severe disease.
09:48:07 A couple of weeks ago. and that does take quite some time when people are that severe.
09:48:13 The other 2 are folks who were already very ill from other things.
09:48:16 But a recent infection with covid 19 kind of pushed them over the edge To need hospitalization.
09:48:21 However, we anticipate they'll make a full recovery We have no new depths to report, which puts us Column County is not reporting numbers today.
09:48:33 The person who does our numbers is taking a well well earned vacation, but she will be back tomorrow, so we'll be updating calm county's numbers on the website tomorrow.
09:48:43 But as a Friday we were suing a similar downturn in case, and no additional
09:48:51 So couple a couple of details on Covid 19. you might have seen the Cdc.
09:48:56 Came out with new new guidelines around covid 19 management.
09:49:00 They've gotten a a wide variety of responses nationwide, but I actually do think that they are reasonable.
09:49:07 They primarily move away from the emphasis on contact tracing of.
09:49:14 If you've been exposed isolating and quarantining and I think that is appropriate because of the sheer amount of covid 19 that's circulating in our community and nationwide
contact tracing
09:49:25 just doesn't do as much for you as it used to What does work well? is the other tools that we know work for Covid 19.
09:49:35 Yeah, testing. So if you getting tested right away, and we do still require that people isolate if they are positive.
09:49:42 For Covid 19, and wearing a high quality mask when you're in indoor settings and high quality ventilation.
09:49:51 As we focus on those 3 tools that we know work really well, we can still control transmission of Kovat 19 and prevent disease. and, of course, as far as preventing severe disease
goes, the most important thing is being up to date on your
09:50:04 vaccine. So if we all use those tools, I think we can still do quite well.
09:50:10 Really the Cdc guidance was deemphasizing.
09:50:13 Contact tracing which I think is appropriate. Update on Mtv.
09:50:18 Thank you, Commissioner Brotherton, for acknowledging the change in nomenclature.
09:50:22 So we This was previously called Monkey Pox.
09:50:25 As we discussed. Monkey Pox is a very problematic name for a wide variety of reasons. So the name has changed to Mpv.
09:50:34 We have diagnosed 265 cases of Pv.
09:50:37 In Washington. at this point over 11,000 nationwide so so far the Washington State outbreak is smaller than some of the other outbreaks we're seeing in other parts of we are
grateful to King county public
09:50:50 health, who really has jumped on that quite quickly and We're hopeful that we'll reduce the size of the outbreak in Washington. we're also thankful to the Washington State Department,
of Public health, which scaled
09:51:00 up with called orthopox virus testing sooner than just about anywhere else.
09:51:04 We've been doing broader testing for mpv in Washington State.
09:51:10 We still have a long way to go, though genius is the primary vaccine for Mtv.
09:51:17 And we don't yet have an allocation available in Jefferson County.
09:51:20 We haven't been allotted any We thankfully have not diagnosed any Mpv cases in Jefferson County, and we have not had any high risk.
09:51:29 Contacts that are Jefferson County residents documented.
09:51:31 Yet We have seen high risk contracts in Kalam County, however, and so, partly because of that, and partly because of our population differences.
09:51:39 Column County has been allocated some genius vaccine not that much.
09:51:43 We've been allocated 20 doses which with the new updated way of of giving the vaccine could actually translate to closer to a 100 doses of the vaccine, and so we will start
09:51:56 administering genius in County, starting this week later this week.
09:52:03 Currently, the vast majority of cases are in gay and bisexual men and other men, and transgender individuals who have sex with.
09:52:11 We are seeing that primarily mpv spreads through close skin to skin contact, and particularly bear skin to skin contact, which is part of why we're seeing that predominantly.
we're seeing this transmitted through sex it's not
09:52:23 exclusively. We have seen there were a couple of very large dance parties in Europe that spread Mtv skin to skin, and we have seen transmission within households.
09:52:33 So per children of people who have Npv and that's due to hugging and holding your own children, which is entirely When we start vaccinating in Kalam County, we are going to
be vaccinating
09:52:46 people within this group, so priority, vaccination for gay and bisexual men and other men and transgender individuals who have sex with men.
09:52:54 She'll have Another risk factor and so that's primarily if you've had multiple or anonymous sex partners in the last 3 months.
09:53:01 If you've addended up that house or a circuit party or or group sex event. that puts you at high risk for empty.
09:53:09 So we'll be vaccinating that group as Well, if you've had an spi in the last year.
09:53:14 Or if you've experienced homelessness or incarceration in the last 3 months, or if you belong to historically marginalized racial minority, and you are gay, bisexual or another
man or transgender, person who has sex
09:53:25 with men. All of those things could qualify You for a vaccine here at Columb County Resident, and sorry for my Jefferson County residents that i'm going into so much detail.
09:53:34 But I know that there are Clown county residents who listen to this show.
09:53:37 So if you meet those criteria, give us a call at Clown County Public health, which is 3, 6, 0, 4, 1, 7, 2, 2, 7 4 for Jefferson County residents.
09:53:48 As soon as we get vaccine we will be following that same prioritization scheme, and we can access vaccine for those who are known to have had an exposure to Mpd so as a partner
of yours
09:54:00 was recently diagnosed with Mpb. Give us a college.
09:54:02 Everything. Public health will get you some vaccine if you for instance, went to a circuit party, and you found out that people there had Mpv.
09:54:11 Give us the call. We'll get you some vaccine we can. We can transmit vaccine throughout, or to transfer vaccine throughout the State.
09:54:19 So that we can vaccinate high risk individuals get a distribution. And so with that, i'm happy to take any questions from our commissioners.
09:54:31 Any questions. you guys Now maybe thought I had one but I can't remember i'm happy that there was some good questions i'm happy to move start with that yeah i'm i'm looking
forward to the astcertainment
09:54:45 question, because i'm i'm shocked how many people I know are still getting diagnosed with covid, and that our rate continues to drop.
09:54:53 So i'm curious to hear about that and I think last week, we stated the intention of wanting to dig more into the idea of us meeting in person again, and would like to continue
that conversation.
09:55:06 Maybe after the Kpd Z. questions to see where we're at, and that sure.
09:55:15 So digging into the numbers around case as entertainment rate to start out.
09:55:20 So keep that entertainment rate. unlike some of the other numbers.
09:55:22 That we report is a somewhat more complicated number to come to It's many of the other numbers that we talk you through really basically are algebra.
09:55:31 It's things like percent positivity, things like that case entertainment rate is a bit more complex.
09:55:36 So it's based on modeling out of the institute for health metrics and evaluation out of the University of Washington.
09:55:43 But that modeling involves a couple different things. so one is looking at the case fatality rate.
09:55:50 So we don't expect the case fatality rate for for Covid to have changed significantly for unvaccinated individuals.
09:55:58 And so, when we see an increase in death for example, at the national level without an increase in cases that suggests that we're missing is a larger number of cases.
09:56:09 So it involves case fatality rate. It also involves the percent productivity which is one of the numbers that we were.
09:56:16 It also involves the percent of our tests that are being reported as home tests, and it includes, the the bias that we are likely to see more severe cases.
09:56:28 So when we know the case fatality rate, we know the percent of cases severe, based on a vaccination percentage of a region, And we know percent positivity and the percent of
tests being reported home tests we can
09:56:40 combine all those numbers into a computer modeling system and figure out our case of, so that all the same, I can't give you a specific equation that will get you there.
09:56:52 But you can see how we, how we adjust that number.
09:56:55 Looking forward. And so when I look at it at a Jefferson town perspective, a lot of what i'm looking at is our percent positivity. and if we're seeing a higher or lower percentage
of our tax so that gives us
09:57:09 an idea of how many of those cases would if we saw a significant spike in hospitalizations or deaths, and we weren't seeing a spike in our cases that would suggest either we
have a more severe variant where we're
09:57:24 missing more cases and thankfully. we're not seeing that so That's how we get to that number We go free.
09:57:32 Other questions around case numbers. So one question was about our our sewer monitoring.
09:57:39 So we have been monitoring montering wastewater in Port Townsend for Kovat.
09:57:46 19. it's exclusively import towns and because it does need a sewer system. so the majority of our residents are on separate. but we can look at port towns and residents, and
How covid 19 rates are affected.
09:57:59 there. we can't get a your day to day number of case Rates sewer systems.
09:58:06 But we can get trajectory we've been getting data. back from the sewer system since early July, and since that time we've actually seen a very significant reduction in positive
cases. So we've seen a 75% reduction
09:58:20 in the sheer amount of covid 19 that we're seeing in our sewers.
09:58:24 Now that's only about a month of data and we do like to see a little bit more when it comes to it, because other things can affect that data.
09:58:31 For instance, if there was a large festival in port, towns, and lots of people came in and then used the sewer system that but we are seeing really a consistent trend down since
July, when we see festival, numbers we usually
09:58:44 see a rapid space. We don't see that in our numbers so that all gives me increased confidence that we actually are seeing a reduction in case and not just in our so thank you
Kptz listeners for digging into the details there I
09:59:01 appreciate. one other kpt. Z. listener pointed out an error in last week's conversation, and so I want to thank them for that.
09:59:09 And chair. When I spoke about Eve you shelled.
09:59:13 I called it on an infusion, but it's actually an injection.
09:59:16 The difference there is an infusion requires an Iv.
09:59:19 And injection is just a shot. Now the Abbott shot is a little bit different than your standard vaccine.
09:59:24 It's higher volume, so it's a glutial shot, ie.
09:59:27 You would get the shot in your buttocks and it's 2 shots.
09:59:32 So it's a little bit more intense than a standard vaccine.
09:59:33 But not an Id. and that also makes it available in more places in more clinics where people wouldn't normally get.
09:59:42 Id thank you for catching that. this person also asked whether or not there is any discussion of expanding every shelled access for pregnant individuals.
09:59:51 Because because of their immuno compromise status in pregnancy.
09:59:57 Pregnancy is an immune modulatory event, so it affects your immune systems of the to respond to all kinds of illnesses.
10:00:05 It also tends to affect people who have underlying auto immunity as well, because a lot of changes happen in your body when you're pregnant right now, every child is not approved
for pregnant individuals who don't
10:00:16 have another immunosuppressing but I think it's a really reasonable question, unlikely.
10:00:22 We'll see more investigations. Another space where There is some investigation going on right now is additional boosters in price.
10:00:33 We know that getting boosted in your third trimester actually protection to your baby against covid 19 right now.
10:00:41 We haven't approved a third trimester booster for pregnant individuals, but it's I think it's a very reasonable move.
10:00:48 We do that with protest so you get it tedac your third trimester, and that's exclusively to protect and so I think it's a really reasonable thing we could do but it's not yet
10:00:59 approved hopefully. we'll see approval on that couple of other questions on the topic of wastewater.
10:01:08 Someone taught brought up a very good question, which is that
10:01:13 Right now we are seeing polio in New York. The way that that was diagnosed was that the there was an individual who actually suffered paralysis from Yeah.
10:01:21 And before that time we considered polio eradicated in the United States.
10:01:28 And now we are seeing positive polio in ways water samples from upstate New York.
10:01:32 And actually New York City and the New York city suburbs suggesting that there are actually hundreds of cases. of Yeah,
10:01:42 Many people don't know especially if you didn't live through it.
10:01:45 But we all remember we remember the news stories about kids and iron lungs from polio.
10:01:51 And I think many of us have gotten the misimpression that everyone who got polio was paralyzed.
10:01:56 But that's it was actually a lot more like covid 19 in that the vast majority of people who got polio felt like they had a cold.
10:02:05 But some people about Polio were paralyzed, very, very similar to the situation we saw with Covid 19, except for back then they had iron lungs.
10:02:14 Instead of analytics. So we are very concerned about seeing pool overturn in New York.
10:02:21 And one thing we learned from kovat 19 viruses don't stay in one state, their areas.
10:02:29 Currently we Aren't doing wastewater sampling for polio here. that would likely have to be coordinated at the Cdc.
10:02:35 Level, but i'm very hopeful that the Cdc will use our existing wastewater sampling infrastructure to do sampling in multiple parts of the United States.
10:02:44 So we can get an indication very early when polio shows up somewhere.
10:02:50 But before we even know for sure that we have it here, I would strongly recommend that everyone make sure you're up to date on your polio vaccinationio is a standard part of
the childhood immunization series.
10:03:01 So if you got your standard immunizations you are vaccinated against polio, it's a high, highly effective vaccine.
10:03:07 And so we're really only seeing symptomatic polio and people who are on vaccinated.
10:03:13 But many parents who were utilizing a different vaccination schedule kind of a slower vaccination schedule or picking and choosing vaccines. One of the ones they often picked
not to get was actually polio
10:03:24 because because we didn't have circulating and so that has changed.
10:03:29 There will be polio the rest of the country so now. it's a really good time to get your kids back.
10:03:44 Last question that I see is that one last question about second boosters.
10:03:51 So, and we've discussed on this program we strongly recommend a second booster or fluoridoses of the vaccine for anyone.
10:03:59 65 over, or anyone who is a mute of suppressed.
10:04:03 It is approved for any one of 50 we're still not seeing a significant change in severe disease for people 50 enough who don't otherwise have an immunosuppressing cause
10:04:18 But it's a very reasonable thing to do to go ahead and get that booster.
10:04:21 We're just not strongly recommending it for that 50 to 5 crowd, because we don't yet have the data that it's needed.
10:04:27 But it's not a bad idea to get it's very reasonable to get this person had spoken to a friend who works at Jefferson healthcare, who said that it would get them an additional
120 days against covid
10:04:38 19. Unfortunately, we're really seeing that it actually only gets you about 4 weeks of additional protection against Covid.
10:04:45 19. So if you have a, you know, big trip plan a big family gathering some kind of high risk exposure plan in the next 4 weeks.
10:04:56 I think getting a booster makes sense in that kind.
10:04:59 We do anticipate that we're likely to see the Omnacron specific come up in mid-october.
10:05:08 And so we The one thing I would recommend against is getting an additional booster.
10:05:12 If you're in that 50 to 60 after say mid September, we do like at least a month between boosters. And so we don't want you to end up having to delay your own accounts. so between
Now.
10:05:25 and mid-september reasonable to get an additional booster not strongly recommended.
10:05:29 If you're under 60. but for everyone else we recommend 3 doses, and then 4 doses.
10:05:33 If so, with that I'm happy to take any additional questions that might have come up as we talked through that, or pass it to.
10:05:46 Yes, Christianity. Yeah, i'm curious the I saw that the Uk.
10:05:52 Had approved the first moderate booster that had that macron components. I won't know the right word for it.
10:06:00 And do do you anticipate that when that some version of that becomes available in the Us.
10:06:07 That it will be limited to that above 65 age range.
10:06:12 Or just, do you anticipate that being more widely available?
10:06:15 Hwise I anticipate that when we get the omocrine booster, it's likely to be approved for a broader set spectrum of society.
10:06:24 But it will be a new a new formulation of the vaccine.
10:06:26 So I anticipate that just like all the other new formulations, It'll be, in short, supply in the beginning and so prioritize to 60. But as soon as we get adequate supplies anticipate
that we're likely
10:06:38 to see broader vaccination, because we would like to reduce symptomatic disease.
10:06:45 Are more likely to do this
10:06:49 Any other questions, Greg do you Have any questions no so last week we started talking about the idea of hybrid meetings, and said that we would revisit it this week. and I
don't know if anyone's had any
10:07:08 further conversations over the last week, or I know the city has been doing hybrid meetings for quite some time.
10:07:16 I know there's there's been interest amongst us in considering doing hybrid meetings again.
10:07:23 I've heard some from some members of the public that they would like that to happen again.
10:07:28 So so I just would open it up for discussion. Do we wanna consider?
10:07:34 Is it a Would it be a tenth and then to our policy?
10:07:40 I'm not sure it would be 12 actually Okay, I i'm fine with with going back, and probably mask.
10:07:52 Which I think is what Dr. Barry recommended last week.
10:07:55 And you know, maybe we wanna give it a couple of weeks just to give ourselves to the public some time to adjust to that.
10:08:04 So maybe after our, we do not have a meeting on August 20, ninth, the fifth Monday, and we did not have a Tuesday meeting those weeks, either.
10:08:15 So maybe we could consider after the alright Labor Day weekends.
10:08:23 That will be a Tuesday, I think that sounds like a reasonable time frame. I I guess i'm also wondering if the the meter on public health.
10:08:36 Is that still an accurate meter? Do you think I mean?
10:08:37 Are we redefining what high and moderate is i'm happy to come back and mouse too.
10:08:46 It's something we're we are always assessing right now.
10:08:52 Really the primary measure of that meter is the probability that someone in any room has covid, and that hasn't changed When we see this high rate of transmission, the probability
is that if you're in a large
10:09:03 group endorse. Somebody has covid which is actually a big part of why we're moving away from contact tracing and to kind of more universal precautions, because if you're in
the habit of going to the
10:09:14 grocery store on. math you're getting exposed to cook and so contact tracing doesn't make sense masking does so right now we're still planning on keeping it whenever we do move
to a truly sentinel surveillance
10:09:26 system. That's probably the time where Okay, thank you for that clarification or deeper dive. and i'm I think, the plan that Kate outline seems really reasonable.
10:09:39 Come back Tuesday after Labor Day with masks on.
10:09:44 Sounds good to me. So we need to update the policy, and we would need to do that in the next week to adopt it next week.
10:09:51 Next Monday, when we do have a meeting the kate I know you've been been doing yeoman's work on updating the policies when you'd be interested in taking that on doing the thirteenth
update
10:10:05 up to the policy or Yeah. Yeah, work with fun sector.
10:10:10 And Dr. Barry and Mark on that. Okay, that would be great.
10:10:16 That sounds good to me. Sounds like something to look forward to on the horizon
10:10:26 Temporary county policy. thanks I was stuck on 10 for some reason.
10:10:35 But i'm not too glad it's not the thirteenth I'm a little bit superstitious as long as we don't do it on a Friday it'd be fine okay that sounds like a
10:10:45 good plan. Thank you. everyone, Willie. How much corn has been ordered for the All county picnic.
10:10:55 So far we have enough for 500 bags which have a couple of years.
10:10:58 Of corn in them each. I think we're approaching. Well, 400 folks have signed up, but we're expecting a little bit of a surge as we get ready for the old county picnic on
10:11:09 Saturday. as a reminder to folks that's 11 to 4.
10:11:12 Hj. Carroll Park. i'm going to the production alliance website.
10:11:17 If you want to see what the the speakers program is we have a number of speakers to talk about various emergency preparedness subjects, It's also not too late.
10:11:27 Sign your organized and prep neighborhood up and get free.
10:11:29 Morning. so we look forward to seeing folks there. just the I have no no Covid report from emergency management.
10:11:37 But will I have my slip box I wanna do I address one thing that has been I'm.
10:11:43 Somewhat of a knock on wood, quiet or wildfire season thus far. I'm.
10:11:46 Here in Washington. according to the Northwest Interagency Coordination Center, which covers Washington and Oregon.
10:11:54 This time last year we've had we had had 86 large fires in the region which had burned a little under 1.5 million acres.
10:12:04 This year we've only seen 21 large fires for a little over a 100,000 acres.
10:12:09 So it has been much improved on the, you know, very much due to differences in the climate.
10:12:14 Year over year; also the great work of those in the fire service, but also because folks are taking personal actions, preventing the spread of wildfire things like using an
ashtray, not parking in long grass and obeying the the rules of the burn
10:12:31 band. However, as we move later, later in the summer, things will continue to dry out.
10:12:36 I think folks have. I certainly noticed this weekend more and more brown as opposed to green as we were out in the so.
10:12:46 For those of you who are curious about wildfire risk want to learn more about?
10:12:48 Maybe building a go kit in preparation for evacuating in case of a wildfire.
10:12:54 Want to learn more about other hazards. in the area y'all County picnic is a great place to come ask those kind of questions, Learn more about it.
10:13:03 I will be giving a presentation on kind of the general hazard profile here in Jefferson County, but we will have East Jeff, chief on Brett Black, joining us specifically about
Wildfire. preparedness.
10:13:14 I'm keppy coupling here with our department will be talking about how to build a go kit and an evacuation kit in case you do need to head out during an emergency.
10:13:25 All that kind of fun stuff. so really want to see folks out there.
10:13:27 We have a lot of good information to share. At least we believe so.
10:13:31 And a lot of good partners who are helping us to do it.
10:13:33 So no report from me just looking forward to seeing folks.
10:13:38 H. J. Carl on Saturday. so we can help better prepare for the the next major emergency, and they'll be able to see the jump playground in progress.
10:13:48 Exactly. Yeah, yeah. it's awesome thank you willie Thanks Dr.
10:13:54 Barry Any other questions for either of these 2 today.
10:14:00 Nope, i'll i'll see you san antonio William Willie. i'm sorry I will not be attending on Saturday, and it's a total bummer for me because I was I've been
10:14:08 to the virtual hall counting picnics. but I am actually having a picnic or party in my yard.
10:14:14 So I will not be serving corn because it's a lot of people.
10:14:21 So we'll see you next year. yeah thanks everyone So we are 15Â min ahead of our next time to agenda item.
10:14:37 Oh, actually we don't have a 10 in this one but I don't know if you can just roll into our next agenda item.
10:14:46 If Philip is with us and ready do you know mark I know I you guys handwriting, and we can roll right into it.
10:14:55 I don't know if anybody needs a break between you know prior to this or after this one
10:15:06 Give everyone time for transition. Kate, I do not need one. but I i'd love to bring up one quick item well, or we can.
10:15:15 We can see if if Mr. Hunsecker is ready, ready when you are Okay.
10:15:21 I I could I just do a quick because we were talking about the situation with the city and Ymca.
10:15:29 This morning. It looks like city council is considering a a information tonight, and supportive.
10:15:34 Transgender people, and I wonder if we want to consider something this afternoon? we could.
10:15:40 We could use their language and and pass something similar in support of their efforts.
10:15:47 And I could work on that over the lunch break if that's a bit of interest, sure.
10:15:51 Okay, great. Add another plate to your spinning plates Kate. Thank you.
10:15:55 That's. fine. and we could walk that on and i'll just have to have public comments in order to take action on that great.
10:16:05 Okay over to Philip and Mark to talk about the opioid settlement.
10:16:11 This is. this is a big, big moment, Right? Yeah. I know you said.
10:16:18 Turn it over to Mark and Philip but but this is his wall, so i'm gonna defer to Philip Alright, Can everyone see my screen?
10:16:27 Yup. Okay, so let me put it in presentation mode.
10:16:34 There we go. So we're here to talk today about the the 3 opioid distributors settlement and the allocation agreement that we are have been working on with the State of Washington
related to its case against these
10:16:52 distributors and I was putting this presentation together. and really you know that we haven't really talked about what's going on globally in the opioid case.
10:17:03 Or why we're even in it, and so I wanna do a little bit of background on that, so that everybody can follow along with where things are?
10:17:11 Because this is really just a very small piece of the opioid litigation.
10:17:17 It's it's a lot of money overall and a lot of money gonna be to distributed to local governments if all the conditions are met. 215 million dollars will go to local governments
under this deal But it's
10:17:32 only a small piece, so let's talk for a minute about why we got in this case to begin with in 2,016, according to the Cdc.
10:17:50 85 opioid prescriptions for every 100 residents in Jefferson County were written from 2,012 to 2,016 at least 15 Jefferson county residents died
10:18:05 from opioid overdoses, and that's a rate that was higher than the rate generally in the State.
10:18:12 They get a survey of screen school age. children. and 9% of not a twelfth graders in Jefferson County reported misusing someone else's prescription.
10:18:26 So to to deal with this crisis. it had direct impact on county resources, public health, juvenile jail.
10:18:35 The sheriff's office courts and the prosecuting attorney's office.
10:18:41 The pharmaceutical industry drove the crisis.
10:18:46 They did a bunch of advertising and other, and employed other strategies to minimize the dangers of opioids, and between 1999 and 2,010 sales of opioids
10:19:04 quadrupled in the country the percentage of people who took painkillers stronger than Morphine jump from 17% to 37% in the same period, and 289 million
10:19:19 prescriptions for opioids were written in 2016 alone.
10:19:25 That's one. for nearly every person in the country whoa the opioid manufacturers use these kind of techniques false groups saying, you know if you're getting you know
10:19:46 that's really was an addiction even though you was feeling like addiction.
10:19:50 They used falsehoods like pseudo addiction to to convince, adoption patients to use opioids, and as a result, local governments, including our county needs funds for creating
and maintaining services to
10:20:11 help individuals affected by opioid and heroin addiction.
10:20:15 And, by the way, hair heroin addiction often follows opioid addiction.
10:20:22 In the same people. also do we deal with increased costs of responding to the to opioid overduces that includes emergency responders and drug clinic costs.
10:20:34 And then the cost of imprisoning people who are addicted to open opioids.
10:20:39 This is a very big cost, and has been for our jail and then there's some cost for worker productivity. So I've got the the box there up again about our impacts on our county
over on the on the far
10:20:53 side. Okay, So let's talk about the opioid litigation, because it's multi-faceted.
10:21:00 And there's a lot of cases going on across the country who are the defense?
10:21:07 First you have the manufacturers and here's a list of the man manufacturers.
10:21:15 And then you have the distributors, and the largest of the distributors are the ones that this settlement is about.
10:21:23 And they account for about 85 to 90% of revenues from drug distribution in the country, and that. And then you put a number to it in 2,000, and 15.
10:21:36 That was 378 point, 4 billion dollars.
10:21:38 All of these distributors have paying paid fines and other penalties for failing to prevent a diversion of opioids.
10:21:49 We hired the Keller Roberts firm in 2,008 to represent us, and the opioid litigation.
10:21:55 When we hired them they'd already filed cases for at least the the the counties, and other entities listed in the box.
10:22:05 We hired them on a contingent fee basis which had which means we weren't gonna pay them until there was recovery.
10:22:14 There was a sliding scale formula for contingent fees.
10:22:19 In that case it was capped and and then it. they get a greater that's been modified for this settlement, and talk about that in amendments.
10:22:28 But they have done a tremendous amount of good work on behalf of their clients, including the county.
10:22:37 For these years, and have not been paid one cent yet.
10:22:40 This is the first time they will. They will get paid including you know heavy participation in the and the Multi district litigation that we'll talk about in a minute.
10:22:54 Okay, So generally, there's 2 types of cases that have been filed against defendants.
10:23:00 Those that are filed have been filed by states usually that's been in stake, or are there been a number of Ho!
10:23:07 How 5 profile cases, including the one that was Father in Washington that's now pending in King County Superior Court.
10:23:16 So so you can kind of track the difference in the cases I got.
10:23:20 The low goes up for where things are and then there's cases filed in Federal court.
10:23:26 By cities, counties, tribal authorities, and individuals all over the country.
10:23:32 Ours case was filed, and the United States just record for the Western District of Washington.
10:23:39 There's a process in Federal courts for grouping cases together called the Multi District district litigation process, and that process there were so many of these cases that
that the Federal courts designated Judge
10:24:01 de Dan Pollster, of the Us. District Court from the northern district of Ohio.
10:24:06 To handle all of these cases in a multi district litigation case.
10:24:11 And there's at least 2,500 cases being handled by Judge Bolster.
10:24:18 And then you have the the bankruptcy that are that are going on. These These manufacturerices were driven by all the litigation and and the notion that if they had to keep paying
for all the litigation
10:24:32 maybe there wouldn't be any money left to pay People At least that was the argument, and bankruptcies are very powerful for relieving people of of debts bankruptcy.
10:24:46 Judges have a tremendous amount of power to to fashion results.
10:24:52 And so you have these 2 manufacturers Purdue and and Malin right?
10:24:57 Who plans and reorganization. The Purdue Pharma plan of reorganization was first filed in 2,009.
10:25:09 And it put all of produce assets and 4 point, 2, 5 billion funded by the Sackler family who owned Purdue Pharma into into that settlement.
10:25:21 There are a lot of objections to it mainly that the Bankruptcy Court didn't have the power to force States to settle, and then in March of this year there was a a a settlement
where the
10:25:42 sacrifice agreed to increase its contribution for to at least 5.5 billion up to 6 billion 20 States have objected to the new settlement because it includes a 2 point a a 20
I I'm.
10:25:58 Sorry. a 277 million dollar payment exclusively to states that negotiated the deal.
10:26:04 So stay tuned for that and then
10:26:10 There was a a resolution with balance right in 2022, and all the States the District of Columbia, Puerto, Rico, and the Federal Government reached a 233 a 1 million dollar
10:26:22 national settlement with us subsidiary. It used to be called quest for pharmaceuticals.
10:26:31 And this is an Irish company. the the main company. so it's it's been approved by the bankruptcy court it, but because it's an irish company.
10:26:41 There are some requirements under Irish law that have to be satisfied.
10:26:47 So it's currently penning approval in the irish courts. we've actually been involved in filing non-objections to the plan and the irish courts and the bankruptcy courts and
we opted out of
10:27:02 the Purdue the produce settlement in the in the pre-k.
10:27:08 So those are going eventually. they will they're likely to be a source of funds for opioid abatement.
10:27:18 Okay, So a little bit about the the mdl It was filed in September 20 September 20 fifth, 2,017 that's Judge Poster of the United States report
10:27:34 for the northern district of Ohio and here's a little bit about the process, and how he's been handling the case first.
10:27:43 He told everybody out of the box that he wants to have a global settlement to resolve all the cases, and so he's got everybody working toward that on the plaintiff side, including
including other He appointed a plaintiff's, executive committee, to
10:27:59 work on settlements. Keller Roberck. Our lawyers are on that committee.
10:28:06 And he set about using a technique for for that's used often for types of issues where you've got a lot of cases that involve the same issues called what the bellwether trials
and i've got an explanation for what
10:28:21 That means in gray there. but basically you try to pick cases to try so that they resolve issues that are outstanding for a large group of cases.
10:28:35 And in that way use the results of either the trials or the settlements to try to reach a global settlement.
10:28:43 Because typically, in these cases, you have parties on on opposite sides that don't agree on some issues.
10:28:50 So you try to get the issues resolved in that in the Mdl.
10:28:54 All of the discovery on all of these cases is done in the Mdl.
10:28:59 Itself. so Judge Poster controls discovery in all the cases.
10:29:05 To get to to figure out what should be the bell bell weather trials.
10:29:09 One of the things that Judge Pollster has required is a an information.
10:29:17 A set of information that all the the the plaintiffs are required to fill out.
10:29:23 Basically the basics of what their claims about we've done that. And we're about to mend it again in this litigation.
10:29:31 But he's try to minimize the amount of discovery except in bellwether cases.
10:29:35 So So our involvement in the cases
10:29:41 Is that actually fairly limited? Not so for Keller Roberts, who, along with all the other law firms that are working on on this work together on all the cases and shared resources
that are in the
10:29:59 mdl and then, when discovery is complete, Judge Pollster sends the cases back to their home districts for trial.
10:30:07 That has happened with 4 or 5 cases, so far and then he's picked 3 ohio cases for bellwether trials, and and I think one has been maybe 2 have been completed, and I think the
same one is
10:30:25 pending results of a decision. so that's kind of what's going on in the Mdl.
10:30:34 Could I ask a question on that? it? just it.
10:30:37 It kind of is counterintuitive to me that Judge Polster is sending cases back to their home districts before he tries the bellwether cases.
10:30:45 I mean I thought the idea is you describe it explain where I'm.
10:30:49 I'm misconstrued yeah so let me clarify.
10:30:54 But all the cases that are in the Mdl.
10:30:55 When discoveries complete, Judge Pollster will send them to their home districts about 3 Ohio cases.
10:31:04 He is the home district, so that's Why, he's keeping those cases so there could be different determinations from all these different trials.
10:31:14 Just really, Bell. weathers the discovery kind of yes, and it's also management of the cases for purposes of settlement.
10:31:22 So you try to manage them all as as one. Try to figure out ways to get that.
10:31:26 Get the you know, settlement and discovery issues resolve and that's that's how we got the original 3 distributors and J and J.
10:31:37 Settlement was through that process with the it's executive committee and the 3 manufacturers and Jj.
10:31:45 Working on Settlements was through that process. it's how we came to agreement on what our share it is was all through the Mdl.
10:31:53 Process and negotiations. great, so it's a very powerful way of trying to, trying to minimize the amount of effort.
10:32:02 That's required to resolve a very large number of cases and the benefits of that are that you know folks aren't spending money on lawyers.
10:32:11 They're trying to figure out how to spend more money on resolution.
10:32:16 That's very important for manufacturers but of course, they all have insurance companies out there behind them, too, that are heavily involved in this, trying to get to a place
where these cases can settle and relieve can
10:32:29 be had for opioid abatement. Any other questions on the process?
10:32:37 Okay, So where do these cases visitors? They They intersect like like our case that we're talking about today.
10:32:48 When you have a settlement that's That'll involve the participation of parties to the Mdl.
10:32:57 And that that is, that is obtained by another like usually that's a state.
10:33:03 And so this is a way for us to to obtain an allocation of monies that are obtained by the state and litigation.
10:33:15 And what we end up giving up for that is our rights. to to claims against these these distributors.
10:33:20 So there's a trade-off for doing it this way, and the the States try to get as much money as they possibly can.
10:33:31 And and then the manufacturers or distributors will require participation of the local governments at a certain level in order for those numbers to be maintained.
10:33:44 So when we start talking about our individual deal there'll be a little bit of a discussion about that, and that's pretty important questions about that.
10:33:54 So far. So let's talk about the settlement that the original settlement was reached on July 20 first of last year.
10:34:05 And so you see where the national prescription, opa litigation. Mdl.
10:34:11 Plan is executive committee that I talked about a minute ago several State attorneys, General and the 4 major defendants, including the 3 distributors, were talking about the
day and Jay reach the settlement and our Ag
10:34:28 Buffer Ferguson on behalf of Sage Washington, decided not to participate.
10:34:33 Figuring that he could. He was getting ready for trial and these other folks weren't, and he would get more if you want to try it.
10:34:44 There's the the 8 piece story on It and he was originally asking for 38 billion.
10:34:51 We got a little bit less than that, I would say, and
10:34:56 He has a a press release. that explains what he was doing in a minute.
10:34:59 I'll show you and then, so here's this press release the total payment to Washington is 518 million the the distributed amount, though for for various reasons, including paying
the States lawyers, and other things, is
10:35:19 about 430 million up to 430 plus 1 million.
10:35:23 So. what he decided was that Judge Bob, Ferguson decided, Is that, you know?
10:35:35 He got 40 he got much more 46 million more than you would have gotten before trial.
10:35:44 But he didn't want to risk losing the total amount and this was a good point to basically stop.
10:35:51 So what do we gain from litigating?
10:35:53 Was 46 million dollars. Okay, so it's important that this settlement does not settle claims against any manufacturer.
10:36:06 So, even though the national settlement also included J. and J.
10:36:08 The one we were that this does not include J. and J.
10:36:12 And it doesn't include claims against any other distributors currently that includes Walmart Walgreens and ride aid.
10:36:22 I put a little clip there from Law *, which is potentially a a a legal blog that keeps track of cases from November 20 third and showing where Cbs Walmart Walgreens were
10:36:43 all found liable in cases involving Ohio high counties as distributors.
10:36:51 Okay, So when we we had been negotiating with well, that's the the local governments in Washington have been negotiating with the Ag to try to come to some form of mo for participation
in
10:37:10 okay is that were settled by the State of Washington, and we started working on that.
10:37:18 I think about 2 years ago, and he the ag wasn't very interested in that.
10:37:25 And and in part he wasn't interested because he didn't want to send a signal to the folks he was litigating with that he wasn't serious about trying the cases.
10:37:39 He thought that would be a sign of weakness when the 3 distributors settlement was an announced, and usually they're announced as agreements in principle.
10:37:52 And then it takes some time to document everything. you got serious.
10:38:00 Bob Ferguson got serious about working on allocation and the one washed canal you.
10:38:06 So we got some indications of what would be necessary in the Mou, and our lawyers started negotiating and the agreement, and eventually it was presented to the board accounting
commissioners and the board.
10:38:24 Approved it in April of this year. and
10:38:32 So these are the key thing key things from the Mo one.
10:38:37 It was for approved purposes only and those are in exhibit a of the Mou.
10:38:42 It's it's all opioid abatement essentially is what it's all for.
10:38:50 And then it will. The allocation was based upon the negotiation class methodology from the Mdl.
10:38:57 That we also agreed to participate in in in the Mdl.
10:39:05 And then the that methodology has our share there. a little over well, about point 4, 5% and and every participant in the Mdl.
10:39:22 Has a share allocated to it. the
10:39:27 The animal you essentially arrange for distribution of kla I'm.
10:39:34 Jefferson and Kissap Counties funds through saltage, behavioral health organization.
10:39:40 We had a discussion about that before the the The boarding county commissioners approved the settlement.
10:39:47 And it maxed out with contingent fee due to the lawyers at 15%.
10:39:56 It's all. Yes, yeah. I just want to make one small correction.
10:40:01 I saw it in the attachment. to the project but we're. Now this, after integrated manage care, we are the salish behavioral health administrative service organization.
10:40:09 Okay, ph dash Aso: So we should probably change that.
10:40:14 Okay. Well, I appreciate that. Who would know better than you on this call?
10:40:21 I think you're the chair right are you still the chair.
10:40:23 Okay, appreciate that and it's also subject to the common benefit tax and the mail.
10:40:33 In other words, we're we have to pay our share of the cost of the Mdl.
10:40:38 Litigation that's essentially what that that's is meant to me.
10:40:43 Okay, now we're at the allocation agreement and and General Ferguson had promised that 50% would go to local governments and yay.
10:41:04 He lived up to his promise. here are the key terms of the of the allocation agreement.
10:41:12 The maximum possible amount is 430,249,000 249,000 706.
10:41:25 That's $9 and 2 cents okay it's a mouthful for me to see as you can say see
10:41:34 And then, essentially, we get treated as if we were to the global settlement.
10:41:42 The national settlement with 3 distributors that settlement had an 18 year payout because we are joining about a year late.
10:41:50 Ours is a 17 year payout only our first year as a double payout.
10:41:56 So, Cap, that catches us up with everybody else who were in the deal.
10:42:01 It's slightly cheaper. The abatement programs that were in Exhibit a of the Mou.
10:42:11 To those that are in exhibit 4 of the allocation agreement. There's just minor changes, and we and it authorizes local governments to opt out of the mou for other settlements.
10:42:24 If they want to for me. I see no reason to do that.
10:42:30 It. That mou helped us to get where we are today with with General Ferguson.
10:42:39 So I think we're gonna want it for future deals Okay, 3 conditions.
10:42:45 This brings us back to what I was talking about earlier when when in manufacturers or distributors have settlements with a State government, they don't want to be litigating
the same issues with
10:43:01 subdivisions. so the settlements usually have a provision like this, like in A.
10:43:08 You have to reach a certain level. How participation to you know, to get that a level of money and typical.
10:43:19 What happens if this doesn't happen then the money gets renegotiated
10:43:23 We have to have 100% participation by the litigating local governments that's us in order for this to work, and 90% of the non litigating what they call primary subdivisions
those are the
10:43:41 ones. I think that have over 10,000 in in population so for the counties.
10:43:47 That's what that meeting with lostack is for today and It's really directed to the non litigating primary subdivision counties to try to bring them along to get the money they
all have some
10:44:01 regional healthcare provider, by which they will receive benefits just like us.
10:44:10 So there's an advantage to everyone participating because everyone will get benefits from this.
10:44:19 There's a requirement, that that the consent judgment and stipulation of dismissal have to be proved approved by the court.
10:44:29 And then there has to be satisfaction in the state subdivision agreement in exhibit o of the global settlement.
10:44:39 I don't see either of those 2 later conditions being an issue questions. So far you're gonna get more into the total break the math of the settlement right?
10:44:50 I mean, I just kind of in your math in my head, and happy to wait to talk about that until you get that is coming. Okay.
10:44:58 So how does this work? we have the one Washington Mou.
10:45:05 Between the local governments that that we that the boarding county commissioners improved on April fifth.
10:45:12 Now we have the allocation agreement which needs to be approved.
10:45:16 Now and then, there's a release also that releases the distributors from a liability from Jefferson County.
10:45:24 That's what's called the subdivision settlement participation form, and that's part and parcel of the allocation agreement.
10:45:32 The the subjection, settlement, participation, form is a form that comes from the global settlement.
10:45:38 So it just locks us into the global to the national or global settlement.
10:45:44 Okay here's the money. So I just rounded it off to 430 million it it could be a little more than that.
10:45:56 But one half to local government. So that's 215 million the attorneys fees is 15%.
10:46:05 So that takes you down to 182 $1,750,000.
10:46:13 There's our share roughly point 4 5% and That's our allocated number for this settlement $800,231 and 86 cents.
10:46:30 So my question is, then, this is over 18 years right so it's like a $100,000.
10:46:35 The first year, and nearly 50 for the subsequent 16 years.
10:46:38 Yes, and in as the behavioral health administrative service organization devi is the out, I can't remember the the language of the mou.
10:46:49 But does that that piece have to go to jefferson county I mean it's, or is it thrown into the coffers to be distributed?
10:46:58 I I Guess they can't remember it's it's to be distributed by by the baby your health organization, according to you know.
10:47:08 It's it's distribution or how it wants to distribute it in the best way.
10:47:13 Got it, I would say chances are pretty good that it would be they'll be joined programs that'll be put together.
10:47:20 That's my gas This doesn't tell you but is important that there's also a an amount set aside for funding the administration of the of the regional organizations that's separate
from
10:47:37 this separate from this trunk of money yes, so it's like the Bhasa will also get some administrative costs from Yeah, and they're always gonna be administrative costs for new
administering
10:47:51 this kind of stuff. So to come out of this okay, so from role now.
10:48:08 We are recommending, along with Killer, where Brock, that you approve and sign the allocation agreement, and that you prove and sign the subdivision participation form, so that
we can access the funds that are coming to
10:48:23 the county, or that would come to the county pursuit to this agreement, and also help satisfy the 100% requirement in the settlement That will.
10:48:33 That will make all the money available to local governments within the State of Washington.
10:48:42 And you know, while this is a relatively small amount in the context of the overall settlement, you know the amount for Jefferson County.
10:48:53 This structure likely paves the way for other agreements in the future.
10:49:00 So It's I think it's really important for for those purposes it might get tweaked a little bit, as demo you was in the Alexandria agreement.
10:49:11 But at least there's a structure now and it's getting the structure together Took us a couple of years.
10:49:17 So that's a big deal. Okay? questions about this so far .
10:49:25 Philip, I have. I have one, and gonna put my naivete about legal matters on my sleeve.
10:49:34 But i'm you know I I in in describing this subdivision participation form to us.
10:49:41 You are just talking about how we're releasing you know ourselves from future.
10:49:50 I guess it's related to this one agreement right we're releasing ourselves from future questions or disagreements relative to this one agreement.
10:50:02 But but you have also heard you mentioned in other sessions that there will be more more lawsuits or more settlements on the horizon.
10:50:12 I I know you guys are doing a really great job at this, but I just got I had this like niggly minute of like.
10:50:20 Oh, let's just make sure that we're not releasing ourselves from future settlements which i'm sure or not, because $50,000 a year does not sound like much to address what is
a massive problem in our in our community
10:50:36 and in communities all around us it. just it's I know It's a huge settlement, but it just feels it's Anna.
10:50:46 When you look at this list of manufacturers just feels, Yeah, So we're we're not releasing any of these drug manufacturers.
10:50:58 Okay, we're only releasing these 3 distributors. and we're not releasing any other distributors.
10:51:11 Okay, I just I think I just need to hear you say that again.
10:51:14 Sorry and we're not releasing any other distributors so we're not releasing any manufacturer, and we're not releasing any of these other distributors.
10:51:25 This settlement is tailored to the 3 major distributors.
10:51:33 Thank you, I just no good question. It it's important and you know our lawyers had poured over the language.
10:51:41 In fact, I don't know how many lawyers have poured over the language, and approved it.
10:51:47 Probably hundreds of lawyers. to be sure that it's limited to these 3 manufacturers
10:51:57 Okay. so. that's our recommendation any other questions are you looking for a motion today.
10:52:07 I am and i'll i'll take one up right now
10:52:12 But before we do that you have any other questions, and and I and have a reminder there.
10:52:18 But we probably should do public comment or we to the motion.
10:52:23 So do I have any other commands. Questions from commissioners.
10:52:26 I have one other i'm not sure if it's semi question, semiconduct, and that's just I mean the opioid epidemic has shifted in recent years, and while I think the the
10:52:39 insighting instance is certainly addressed by these distributors.
10:52:44 Now you have a fit in all issue that is so much deadlier, you know, instantly and and randomly, that harm reduction is even more important.
10:52:53 And I just want to make sure that that these funds can be used for all site for all, to all types of opioid abatement.
10:53:02 So the the list is then exhibit exhibit, for to the allocation agreement.
10:53:14 And I can tell you where that is I I admit I didn't come through every page of that. that.
10:53:22 It was long. Okay, so this is where it is.
10:53:30 So if you look at the agenda request it's start it's
10:53:36 It starts on page 93. Okay, i'll check it out thank you, Yup, you bet!
10:53:42 Hey? Have a comment on the question. thanks bill it's great to see this come together.
10:53:49 It's been a long road. certainly been tracking it through the association accounts for the last 6 years.
10:53:57 And probably probably started before then. So glad to be near the finish line on this one.
10:54:02 My question is actually more for Greg. which is do you feel like we're gonna have the ability of the
10:54:11 Sbajaso. Am I getting it right? Is it 6 letters?
10:54:16 To to really identify how those Funds are going to be best deployed in Jefferson County, where we have some local authority over how those get spent.
10:54:27 I'm a little worried about them getting pooled and getting spread out, and you know, not being seen kind of put to use here in Jefferson County.
10:54:34 So just curious. you know, looking at at at past programs like this.
10:54:41 They'll probably do an rfp that goes out to all all 3 counties, and looking at like the real navigator program as an example, the pre law enforcement diversion program.
10:54:49 They kept. They work really hard to make sure that there was appropriate balancing programs in each county, because these services often don't really go across borders.
10:55:01 They're really for the residents. so I you know I will certainly advocate, and i'm confident that they'll find that numerous applicants we have multiple applicants for the for
the real navigator
10:55:11 program, and I mean, you know the the players and in our you know Dvh.
10:55:18 And believe in recovery, and there's others that are working on it, and, you know, believe in recoveries. no new mobile system.
10:55:24 There's lots of yeah. So it is truly on how the the Rfp.
10:55:28 Is structured. but i'm confident that the vh so administration will make sure that it's distributed equitably through the 3 counties.
10:55:36 If that is a dollar to dollar you know is if every you know $48,000, or whatever a year it's supposed to come here comes here.
10:55:45 I will have i'll get more information and bring it back to us great.
10:55:50 Yeah, I just find, like, you know, one of our other boards with the same geography, for example.
10:55:55 They only advertise. They're only required to advertise their rfps in
10:56:02 One newspaper, which is in kitz county and so our local providers don't see that, and often, you know, don't even know.
10:56:10 To apply so would just be great to be sure we're watching that this is gonna be deployed.
10:56:13 Look like, Yeah, Well, I mean you guys, have all seen Julian crown the clinical director come to many different groups, and and she's she knows all the players and and and they
make sure that everyone's involved
10:56:32 Any other questions. You guys just appreciate it's great news yeah, thanks for all of your work on this presentation and the years of work going into this, Philip.
10:56:46 I know that you and everyone on the team has been working, contributing to this work. I have.
10:56:53 One question is that a Philip Hun sucker photo there? I like it.
10:56:55 Got the it's it's not it's.
10:57:05 It's my it's my courtroom graphic
10:57:12 Well, mostly seeing an executive session
10:57:18 Okay, I don't think there's any more questions Philip public comment.
10:57:26 Yeah, so we're gonna open this item up for public comments.
10:57:34 If there's anybody with us who is has joined on the attendee list, and was just to make a public comment on this agenda item.
10:57:46 Please reuse your raise hand, but use the raise hand.
10:57:49 Bend at the bottom of your zoom screen or nope no one's on the phone.
10:57:54 So can I make one more comment? Yeah.
10:57:59 Just as I think about kate's question about distribution I couldn't see the challenge being since this is, you know, less than a staff member set aside other things.
10:58:10 It could look different the way it's gonna have to be kind of a supplement to a program here, where you know, with kids out of 10 times the size and potentially 500,000 a year.
10:58:21 They could Nick can set up any new program and i'm not sure if that's possible, with our with our share.
10:58:30 Well, we'll keep in mind that these other counties are likely to be participating too.
10:58:34 Right, so you know. So this will be so you'll have put money from cloud.
10:58:41 I'm in kit sap going there as well right okay.
10:58:47 So before we open this up for Jean Ball to make a public comment, I would just make one more call for public comment on this agenda item, which is opioid litigation.
10:58:56 Allocation agreement between the State and local governments for 430 million dollar State settlement with 3 large distributors.
10:59:04 And I think if you were watching the presentation, you saw that the Jefferson County allocation is anticipated to be around 7,607 800.
10:59:19 Okay, Jean Ball is here to give a comment. Great Gene, You have 3Â min for comment.
10:59:25 Good morning, Commissioners. what a herculean task!
10:59:30 Oh, my God! I wonder! and my apologies if I missed it because I was reeling from Dr.
10:59:38 Barry's report of polio and furiously texting some people to check on their vaccination status.
10:59:44 But I wonder if there is any sense of what Jefferson County has paid out in services due to opioid issues.
10:59:55 Because it, it sure seems like a a payment settlement of roughly $50,000 a year for a mere 18 years might not be sufficient to cover our expenses.
11:00:08 That that seems perhaps woefully inadequate. yet so at the same time it is better than nothing.
11:00:13 And I wonder what the opportunity or likelihood of going after the manufacturer.
11:00:19 In addition to the distributors, might be in in future endeavors.
11:00:25 Thank you very much. Alright, I got Tom Tears, Tommy, have 3Â min for public comment.
11:00:37 Thank you. have to agree with jane ball. This seems like a pretty inadequate amount of money to deal with the problem, and I know that you all know that
11:00:51 It's the best we can do given that we're a very small group at the end of a very long chain of litigants.
11:01:00 But you know, is there anybody in this county who hasn't been personally affected by this crisis?
11:01:07 Who hasn't lost a family member or one removed I'm not talking.
11:01:10 Kevin bacon, i'm talking about really close You know this is It's a horrible situation that you know we are in as a country, and the fact that our justice system has failed
us here.
11:01:26 Is the biggest disappointment from my perspective about the outcome of this.
11:01:31 The sacklers aren't in jail until that happens there is no justice, no amount of money is going to solve this problem.
11:01:41 As long as rich people get to walk away and just say no i'll write a check that's got to stop because otherwise it's just rich person's law versus the rest of us.
11:01:52 So you know, when the lawyers go in, and talk about these settlements they settle, they shouldn't be they should be prosecuting period hard line, and you know, unless and until
they do that not much is gonna change so that's the
11:02:08 bad news Bye. Thank you for your comment. I can respond if it would be helpful.
11:02:21 Oh, go ahead hiding. I just wanna make another call.
11:02:25 If anyone is interested in making a public comment on this agenda. Item, please use your raise hand, button at the bottom of your zoom screen.
11:02:31 And we'll respond to the first couple of few comments we received, and I think Philip is going to start us up.
11:02:41 So we are suing all the manufacturers, and we are suing all the other distributors in the multi district, and those claims are in the multi district litigation.
11:02:52 They, like most civil cases, are likely to settle probably 95 or 97% of civil cases settle they're about getting money.
11:03:03 That's what civil cases are about. and we get injected relief In some of these cases, too, which is also helpful.
11:03:13 The standard for proving a civil case is typically preponderance of the of the evidence, which is more likely than not when you talk about a criminal case, the standard for
or of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt that it is
11:03:28 a much more stringent standard, very difficult to prove criminal cases.
11:03:35 This is not about the criminal case, or any criminal case about any of these defendants.
11:03:41 This is about maximizing our recoveries. to deal with this problem
11:03:47 So, Philip, can you can answer the question. I think there's going to be any justice in this?
11:03:56 You mean, Are the sackers going to jail?
11:03:59 Well, I I don't know I mean is There going to be a come up, and more than a and you know a a dribble of of a company's profits per year.
11:04:08 I mean? Yeah, is it gonna change the game Well, I mean I think when you're talking about purdue Pharma? that's gonna be a huge smacking in terms of you know what gets what gets
put into the final resolution of
11:04:23 this they're talking about putting all the assets of perdue farmer into this.
11:04:28 So I think that's you know that's a big deal whether it's enough for justice I mean all the people that have died very hard for me to say that's justice yeah I agree
11:04:47 Did we see any other hands go up? Nope: anyone. Wanna Wanna respond to the question about Jefferson County costs or future.
11:04:59 You know the the prospect of future cases. I saw his hand up.
11:05:05 Yeah, you know, certainly deferred to public health, who has done much of the response on this to date as well as Jefferson.
11:05:12 Healthcare. it It probably be hard to parse those costs.
11:05:17 You know some of them are within normal operations of public health and summer.
11:05:24 Have been extraordinary grant funding so what I won't. I won't even attempt to make a guess at that.
11:05:29 But I just wanna say I appreciate Mr. Tears bringing this back to the very personal issue that it is.
11:05:37 And he's right I mean I have lost I've lost 2 friends in In recent years, you know, even since we have known the risks associated with opioids.
11:05:45 Here in Jefferson County so it's it's very real
11:05:48 It is tragic and heartbreaking, and
11:05:51 So just wanna I I I was remiss in in real remembering how personal this is for so many people in our community. and
11:06:00 So, thank you. and the days of recreational drug. use are over just for anyone on the line that is in indulging in that any line of powder can kill you at this point.
11:06:14 So it's. the game has changed and it's horrible and I don't know if in your in the Chicago empower teams coalition I mean it's just hearing hearing kids talk about through through
reporting through
11:06:30 the counselors. But talking about using these kinds of drugs it's just really troubling
11:06:37 I'm sure it comes up in your power teams coalitions as well
11:06:46 Anyone wanna talk about the prospect of future cases, I mean.
11:06:52 Philip talked a little bit about that, but I know that it seems like the manufacturer.
11:06:57 Cases could be huge, and probably take many more years than this to unwind.
11:07:04 But now there's a Roadmap right I mean that's what I heard Phillips say, so I don't know if you want to respond to that Philip.
11:07:11 So there have been cases tried against manufacturers already.
11:07:18 Most of those have been State cases, and the few Mdl.
11:07:23 Federal cases that have involved manufacturers with with results.
11:07:28 And but I expect you know there's likely to be some sort of settlement or settlements going forward with the manufacturers that it's just to and when you consider the number
of cases that are out
11:07:44 there it's just a much more. efficient. way. to get the money been spending it on lawyers you know, to try all these cases, and you know like it or not.
11:07:57 There's a limited amount of resources that The companies have you know their insurance resources are limited, their assets are limited.
11:08:05 They you know you probably couldn't fully compensate everybody who's been who's been heard in this crisis.
11:08:14 So to me. it's about you know getting as much as we can to help with the problem.
11:08:21 And that's you know that's sometimes unsatisfying.
11:08:23 But, as Jean said it's, better than nothing yeah one last call for public comment on this item anybody on the line that wishes to make a public comment on this conversation.
we've been having about the opioid settlement raise
11:08:44 your hand now, or i'm gonna close public comment on this item say any other hands go up.
11:08:53 So i'm a closing public comment on this item and I think somebody was raising their hand to make a motion.
11:09:01 Yeah, I'm: Happy to make to move that the board of Jefferson County Commissioners prove the allocation agreement between the State of Washington and the Washington local governments
for the distribution of settlement funds in the State of Washington
11:09:13 settlement with the Mars source. Bergen, Poor Cardinal Health, Inc.
11:09:18 And Mccasten, Corp for opioid abatement, including the subdivision settlement, participation form.
11:09:25 Go ahead to second up all in favor. aye, passes unanimously.
11:09:33 Thank you. Commissioners appreciate it. Thank you. A great presentation.
11:09:43 Phil: Okay. Oh, Kitok, So we are moving on to the next item on our agenda, which is a briefing on a potential application for connecting housing to the infrastructure program.
11:10:03 And I just wanted to let you all know that Mark. Let me know that public works is in terms of consent.
11:10:11 Agenda number 9. public works is interested in continuing to lease the portable until capital planning can happen.
11:10:19 So can someone make a motion that we at adopt a consent Agenda number 9 because we pulled it.
11:10:29 Move to approve number 9 on the consent agenda second, all in favor.
11:10:33 Sorry. Lisa way, Monty Okay, Anything else, Philip.
11:10:42 Sorry. Oh, he has to be demoted. So I moved him to attendee.
11:10:46 Okay, Okay, I just i'm still sitting there and I thought he might have something bad.
11:10:51 Good morning, Kathy. good morning commissioners. okay so I'm: Assuming that one or both of you are gonna brief us on this issue.
11:11:03 Well, i'll introduce the subject, and then cathy and give the more informed briefing.
11:11:08 But this is it's a slightly complicated little 3 card Monty that's been really endorsed as an idea by the Department of Commerce to you know not not make the not kick off prevailing
wage from
11:11:23 residential in the commercial, I believe. but Kathy can trying more light on that.
11:11:30 But holy cap is coming to us with a request to kind of be a proxy for this application for the chip fund chip grant to pay for some of the soft costs.
11:11:43 Around infrastructure, and then, if we loan them as the government, the money, then we can avoid that prevailing wage.
11:11:50 Jump for the person and and then it will just be a physically neutral pass through, as it probably is.
11:12:00 Going to be a forgiven loan but They'll pay it back if it has to be paid back.
11:12:07 Cathy, would I get right? pretty much everything you just said Yeah, i'm not the technical person for this that would actually have been.
11:12:19 Philipa but this came about as a way being able to bring more funds into the seventh Haven construction because of acceleration of Some of the costs, because lumber prices and
such
11:12:37 moly cap is already used. 400, about $465,000 worth of developer fees.
11:12:45 To mitigate some of those acceleration in cost.
11:12:51 But where, you know, we still have a bit to go and so we're looking at other ways of being able to make this work
11:12:57 The Chip Orient is actually a newer version of a grant that was told to us from commerce and the legislators back in 2,019.
11:13:12 How we could we capture some of those infrastructure costs because they're they're they're extraordinary costs.
11:13:20 And it's you know it's gonna be less than a $150,000.
11:13:25 But you know it. it helps in mitigating some of the
11:13:30 The change order costs that's still gonna happen until the end of the the completion of 7 pay. then going through the county does help with not having to pay prevailing wage
which would kind of it wouldn't
11:13:49 make any sense. if we had to pay prevailing wage, because then our cost would be the same.
11:13:53 It would be no So that is the way of being able to save that.
11:13:57 And it's just basically a pass through so yeah that's It's It's a new grant.
11:14:06 So I haven't gone through all the verbiage of the grant or the bill itself.
11:14:09 So i'm not all that's knowledgeable about it, as Greg likes to think I am.
11:14:14 But I could answer any questions, I think. could I ask what?
11:14:20 Just one clarifying thing. I believe you know ally and Olycap is doing the application.
11:14:25 It's not like this is gonna be a big hit on count of Staff.
11:14:28 It's really just the sponsoring alone they ask me acting as the fiscal agent. Is that right?
11:14:33 And then the grant, I mean, and then making the loan based on that That is correct.
11:14:39 So. Philip, has already taken a look at this and Michael Marx has already taken a look at this, and it's It's pretty straightforward.
11:14:54 Yeah, I think the only thing is we'll need some budget authority that will take care of in the third quarter, revenue and expense.
11:15:06 So. the one question I have is, you know, is there any other project or entity?
11:15:13 The county might be asked to support for this category of grant funding that we know of.
11:15:25 In the next 2 weeks Yep I know a lot of people who wait till the last minute, so there would be nothing to prevent us from doing the same thing with another organization, though
I think it's very likely I don't think any
11:15:40 other organization is poised for this infrastructure.
11:15:44 Grant at this point. Okay, i've not heard of any It seems like a no brainer you know happy to to support. this.
11:15:56 Sounds like the administrative burden. Would that be great?
11:16:00 Should we get awarded and any little bit that helps get this project across the finish line and make up for some of the inflationary increases.
11:16:10 Costs would be great. Someone like to make a motion then there's public comment on Oh, sorry!
11:16:24 Is there anyone wishing to make public comments on application for connect for the connecting housing to infrastructure program by the county to be used by Olycap for the Seventh
even, Project, which is currently underway anybody wishing
11:16:41 to make public comment on this grant. Application
11:16:49 Not seeing any hands again. go up. I am gonna do last call here last call for public comment on this item.
11:16:59 Okay closing public comment on this item. So this was just a meant to be a briefing.
11:17:09 Do. We need to. No, we need to take action i'm i'm happy to to move that Jefferson County applies for that.
11:17:16 The connecting housing to infrastructure program grant program as presented in this briefing and passes any award through to Holy cap as a loan, and I'm happy to second something
for once and it was nice to hear
11:17:33 Michael mark's name mentioned twice today our new grant coordinator, and glad to see he's clicking in action all in favor.
11:17:48 Hi! hi! thank you, Kathy, for being here. Oh, thank you so much.
11:17:54 Thank you.
11:17:58 Okay, It's some anyone have anything They wanted to add now for discussion, or we did. K.
11:18:09 We did briefing and calendaring. Kate: Yeah.
11:18:13 Just a quick question. Madam Chair. if we are to consider a proclamation this afternoon supporting transgender people.
11:18:21 Could we schedule that at a certain time, so that if someone wishes to accept that preclamation, we have a timeframe.
11:18:31 We could do it right at 1 30 at the beginning, because it would be, I I assume it would be fairly quick.
11:18:37 Yup and and then move into our workshop. Okay. great.
11:18:41 Thank you. Okay. Anything else for afternoon planning or hanging Chads.
11:18:50 Hmm: Nope: Okay. Well, it's 1118 we will recess until 1 30.
11:19:00 That'll give Kate some time to work on proclamation and i'll see you all at 1 30.
11:19:08 Very good with that with a pre-cvassing board.
13:31:42 1, 29
13:31:50 We can't see more alright
13:32:08 See, Caroline, will you please bring over Beau, the Eu from the attendees list?
13:32:09 Alright Okay, we it's 1 30 so i'll call us back into order, and we have 2 workshops scheduled for this afternoon.
13:32:19 Both prior to those 2 workshops, we're going to consider a proclamation and a support of our transgender friends and neighbors in our community.
13:32:30 So i'm gonna let Commissioner dean t up this agenda item, and then we will have a public comment period after the reading of the proclamation.
13:32:41 Great thank you, and I want to welcome both all grin who's joined us here today.
13:32:46 He's a facilitator with jefferson county transgender support and
13:32:52 So we took a proclamation of the city, is going to be considering this evening, and worked with bow to craft, a a preclamation for us to consider and we we at all times which
to express our support to the
13:33:05 trans community, but especially right now with we have a lot of attention, both a little bit locally and a lot nationally on a an issue that happened at the Ymca.
13:33:18 Locally and I don't even want to give it a lot of oxygen.
13:33:21 Because it's and it's a very hurtful situation. I don't mean to be little it at all.
13:33:27 But The fact is, the Ymca. is following State law in allowing people to use the facilities that they most identify with, and we support that and I am very saddened that trans
people in our community are being threatened and
13:33:42 treated poorly, and as well, that the staff at the Ymca.
13:33:46 And our colleagues at the city are being subjected to.
13:33:51 Just terrific violence unkind language so I think it's important that we express our support to the trans community to the Ymca.
13:34:04 And the city as they navigate. this I key issue.
13:34:07 So it was something we could read the proclamation, and then let both have a few words.
13:34:10 Yeah, and when then, we'll do public comment too, thank you.
13:34:17 Who wants to kick it off. Go for it. Heidi Proclamation.
13:34:21 Whereas Washington State law protects the rights of transgender people to be free from discrimination, and to enjoy all privileges and protections granted to all people, including
full enjoyment of public accommodations, employment and
13:34:35 participation in all aspects of civil life; and whereas Jefferson County Board of Commissioners supports our colleagues at the city of Port Townsend and the Ymca.
13:34:47 Of Jefferson County in upholding State law, and denounces the harmful rhetoric and misrepresentations of our community that have been directed towards these valued institutions,
and the diversity of people they
13:34:57 employ and serve. and whereas the Williams Institute at the Uca.
13:35:04 School of law found study, found that transgender people 16 and over are 4 times more likely to be crime.
13:35:09 Victims than cisgender people; and whereas half of all transgender people are sexually abused or assaulted during their lifetimes, according to the Us.
13:35:19 Department of Justice, and whereas Pbs News Hour reported that 2,021 was the deadliest year for transgender people with a record number of transgender murder victims, and whereas
the FBI reported that hate crimes against
13:35:34 transgender and gender non-conforming people increased 587% between 2,013 and 2,019.
13:35:43 And whereas may transgender people, raise children, have grandchildren, and are the center of loving families.
13:35:50 And whereas Jefferson County celebrates and honors the presence of transgender people and the myriad editions they make to the fabric of our communities.
13:35:58 Now, therefore, the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners does hereby proclaim the Jefferson County.
13:36:04 Values our transgender residents and visitors, and urges all people to be respectful, welcoming, and kind to all people, regardless of gender identity.
13:36:12 We further proclaimed the discrimination and prejudice in any form, particularly against transgender.
13:36:17 People are unwelcome, and have no place in Jefferson County.
13:36:22 We'll claim this fifteenth day of august 2022 thanks.
13:36:28 Greg and Kate and beau. Would you like to make some comments sure?
13:36:33 Just to say that this has been, and incredibly stressful.
13:36:40 And concerning a couple of weeks for both the trans community as well as the community of the Y.
13:36:49 The families that go to the Y who have lost childcare because of the situation as well as the threats against our city staff.
13:36:57 And that it's pretty beautiful to be in a community that so firmly stands on the side of trans rights, and stands on the side of translies.
13:37:10 It's really it's not moving to me and I know it's moving to many folks in the trans community that are city and our county now are proclaiming so clearly that this is unacceptable
behavior and that
13:37:26 Trans folks are really valuable members of our community. I particularly work with a lot of young people, and this has been really, really hard on our kids and us, and young
adults who want this space to feel welcoming and right now, feel really
13:37:42 unsafe. And so I think anything that we can do to help our young people feel safe in this community, and like they're truly valued.
13:37:48 Good use of our time thank you Bob so we're gonna open up for public comments just to see if there's anyone else who would like to comment on this agenda.
13:38:01 Item as we do with everything we talk about. we appreciate hearing from members of our community who have perspectives on issues that we discuss.
13:38:10 So. So if you're interested in making a public comment on this proclamation, which we just read in support of our transgender, Friends and neighbors, please raise your hand
now by using the raise hand button.
13:38:23 At the bottom of the zoom screen. See anyone on the phone other than our staff number.
13:38:28 So. Is there anybody with us who would like to make public comment on this proclamation?
13:38:36 Caroline, I see. Jeans raised her hand, and I appreciate K.
13:38:42 Taking the time to pull this together in short order over the the lunch hour, lunch hours, but the lunch break.
13:38:48 Thank you, Kate. Sure. Well, I appreciate both being readily available on short notice as well as the city.
13:38:54 Jean, you'll have 3Â min for comment Good afternoon, Commissioners.
13:39:06 I i'm not the the best spokesperson for this. but it's a kind of appalling to me that there aren't more voices to amplify this message, and I just I want to thank you for taking
13:39:17 this action, and taking it in such short order. and It seems insane and unconscionable to me, that we have to do these things, and that people are not considered to be people
I just i'm speechless I don't even know what to
13:39:36 say i'm completely unprepared to deal with this. but thank you for dealing with it, and it's just an unfortunate sign of the times that that we forced to have to do this sort
of thing.
13:39:52 So. thank you. Thank you, Jane. We appreciate you showing up and making comments and support. Is there anybody else who's joined us on the attendee list this afternoon who would
like to comment on the proclamation that was
13:40:06 just red. If so, use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen.
13:40:12 And if not, thank bow again for joining us and Commissioner Dean, for your work over our break, and we're in solidarity.
13:40:22 Bow. i'd like to make a motion to approve the confirmation as read: second, all in favor.
13:40:31 Hi Thank you. bo hanging there. I know this are our tough times, and I know that you are responsible for holding a lot of kits through really difficult times in their lives.
13:40:44 And I hope you you feel supported, too. I do thank you so much.
13:40:49 Thank you, Bob. Okay, So with the next thing on our agenda is a workshop with public works, together with the Peninsula Trails coalition to provide a status update on the Olympic
13:41:05 Discovery Trail project in Jefferson county I think Carolyn for this one.
13:41:09 We're gonna bring Jeff Bowman and John Fleming.
13:41:16 Yeah, I think that's John F. i'm trying to bring him over Yeah.
13:41:18 And then we'll ask we'll ask jeff if we're also bringing don a lot over.
13:41:32 I'm not sure about that
13:41:33 Jeff, Jeff, are you there?
13:41:42 Yes, hi. Are we bringing Don a lot over for this workshop?
13:41:48 If if he is in your holding area or whatever he, he may have some county relevant editions.
13:42:01 So it's it's fine if you want to include him I don't think he's a formal part of your workshop plan, but
13:42:17 So let's bring them over Great John eric thanks for putting this together with us this afternoon.
13:42:24 I realized I was probably giving inadequate updates on our progress, and probably hadn't had a full update myself.
13:42:32 So it would be great to hear from you where we're at on Jefferson County, and I know that I've spoken individually with both of you all 3 of you in recent months.
13:42:43 But pretend like We don't know much. is Jeff, Selby in the waiting room as well, and he was going to join you guys and Don Willot, If you could. he Oh, There!
13:42:58 You go. Here he comes!
13:43:01 Yeah, if we see Jeff Selby show up we'll bring him over.
13:43:05 Alright, thank you. Good afternoon, good afternoon. I got back just in time writing on the Larry Scott Trill next to my home.
13:43:26 Thanks for joining us. So John, are you gonna tie this up or sure?
13:43:34 Good at afternoon Commissioners It's been a while since we spoke about the Olympic discovery trail.
13:43:41 And i'll try to breathe so that this can be a conversation after we give the baseline status
13:43:48 The total length of the planned O. Dt. and Jefferson County is 27 miles from the city of Port Towns into the Clown County line adjacent to Diamond Point. road The total length
that the trail is
13:44:02 planned to be about a 135 miles within Jefferson County.
13:44:07 2 thirds of the Olympic discovery trail has been completed, of which 9 miles are on shared existing low volume, low speed roads. 9 miles are on existing multi-use non motorized
13:44:23 trail, and 9 miles are on multi-use trails that are yet to be built of those trails yet to be built.
13:44:31 The most notable is 3 miles of new trail from the south end of the Larry Scott trail to the north boundary of Anderson Lake State Park.
13:44:41 The status of that segment is we have funding for the design.
13:44:47 The design is progressing Well, we have reviewed a preliminary design and made significant revisions in order to attempt to keep the trail as successful as possible with a target
of 5% maximum slope.
13:45:02 We're projecting over 50,000 Cubic Yards of excavation the schedule for receiving the 30% level of plans. specifications, and estimate is September 2022 next month We
13:45:17 have secured the majority of the right away, but with our current design it appears we may need an additional piece or 2.
13:45:25 We have the majority of the funding for construction from our Co. Grant.
13:45:33 F. Hwa. Surface Transportation Block Grant funds and capital funds from local.
13:45:42 The construction schedule up the trail to Anderson.
13:45:46 Lake State Park is through autumn of 2024, so perhaps October 2024 will be writing that section for the mile of the New Odt through Anderson Lake State Park State Parks is managing
their
13:46:02 own project. State Parks has secured funding for the design.
13:46:07 State parks has applied for funding through ourco for construction, and the schedule for the parks trail construction is 2024 to 2025. At this stage.
13:46:19 The next segment is a new segment from Anderson Lake Road to Ecomow Road.
13:46:27 In partnership with the city of port towns and and their water transmission pipe.
13:46:33 Upgrade project funding is being explored for right away.
13:46:37 Acquisition and new pipe construction, the trail would be co-located with the water pipe route for the new segment of the Ott.
13:46:48 From Ego Mount Road to Fair Mount Hill Road. the county continues to work with the Washington State Department of Transportation for the use of State route.
13:46:57 20 right of way for the new segment of the Odt.
13:47:02 From Fairmount Road to the existing Odt segment behind Mj.
13:47:06 Trucking along highway 101 at the south end of Fairmont Road, adjacent to State route.
13:47:14 20 Peninsula trails, Coalition and volunteers are working to design, permit and construct a trail head in partnership with Jefferson Land Trust, Washington Department of Fish
and Wildlife North Olympic Salmon
13:47:29 Coalition and Washington State Department of Transportation. the county continues to work on right away, and lastly, for the new Odt segment from Brooders Road on the west side
of Discovery Bay to the County Easement on Old
13:47:46 Pacific State Highway, Number 9 Road bed to the Old Gardener Road to the north, counting previously acquired an easement from Washington, State Department of Transportation
Peninsula Trails Coalition obtained a
13:48:02 preliminary design and cost estimate using washed up highway 101 right away.
13:48:06 The cost estimate was approximately 8 and a half 1 million dollars for that trail segment, and that's it in a nutshell.
13:48:17 Take a deep breath
13:48:22 Any questions that's that was a great and precise update and very informative.
13:48:31 Thank you, John. I'm curious. I Guess first of all about the the highway. 20 right away is that like the only place that's that's workable is I mean, is there enough right away
to make a state path from from
13:48:46 Eagle Mount down to to Fairmont. It would be on the side one side of the road.
13:48:52 Correct that the existing say route 20 is an upgrade from an old what was called the Woodman Fairmount road, and there's still evidence of that old roadway and through that
ecom out to Oh, maybe
13:49:12 midway down to Fairmount Hill the state route.
13:49:16 20 took the roadbed of the Woodman Fairmont Road.
13:49:20 So, and there was a lot of effort excuse. me. there was a lot of effort looking for alternatives through there, and they're much more costly and much more lengthy.
13:49:32 But there are options the most direct route, though, is adjacent to State route.
13:49:37 20. No, it's. it's exciting is that I'm trying to picture that's stretch is that along where gunstone is, or
13:49:56 I was elsewhere. Caroline, could you bring Jeff Selby over?
13:50:01 Sure. Thanks, Jeff, you're gonna need to accept the promotion to panelists.
13:50:07 So, John, would that be a protected lane? or do you have a a sense of design of that highway?
13:50:11 20 right away section. Ideally, it would be a separate dedicated trail.
13:50:19 Probably on the water side of State route, 20 rather than the upland side
13:50:30 And i'm sorry I can't remember if is it a crosswalk that's up near the 4 corners.
13:50:37 How we're gonna get across from the larry Scott trail, right.
13:50:40 So going from Larry Scott. we'd be on the north side of South Discovery Road, and would it help if I brought a couple maps up Yes, you can share using the share button at the
bottom of the
13:50:58 zoom screen. and that probably would help me with my stupid question.
13:51:03 I just asked, but but I now I know where i'm at Okay,
13:51:10 Are you able to see the the maps that I have up okay, Oh, you have to hit the start sharing button.
13:51:21 Okay. now, here it comes. There you go. Okay.
13:51:32 Alright, the overall picture i'm showing here is purple is existing trail and blue is trail that is under planning or under construction, and the point that we're discussing
right now is basically
13:51:51 ecom out road to well evil mount road is where this pink and blue intersect this little segment right in there.
13:52:02 It's less than a mile long and that's where the old Woodman Fairmont road is
13:52:12 Commissioner Greg was asking about the crossing of State route.
13:52:16 20 up here at the north end getting over to Jefferson.
13:52:20 Transit authority. they have a nice existing park and ride, and a restroom facility and a bike repair station, and a place to get out of the rain, while you wait for other forms
of multimodal transportation
13:52:35 options. I think I may have a picture of that, too.
13:52:42 Yeah, that's their nice facility. that would be a surface crossing protected with rapid rectangular flashing beacons similar to a school crossing similar to what just one in
adjacent to
13:53:00 Jefferson County Library, on on Nest Corner Road State route, 1 16.
13:53:09 So that is part of the current design. And where would that be, Jeff?
13:53:14 Sorry that crossing right at the intersection that would be probably north of the intersection on State route.
13:53:21 20. There used to be a bus pull off there and a little shelter.
13:53:26 There's good illumination there's an overhead light there, and we'd probably be right adjacent to that light fixture
13:53:37 And then it crosses after we pass this, this shelter and Jefferson transit It goes a little farther than crosses back over Discovery Road.
13:53:45 I mean 4 Corners road, right? it goes to the south side. north.
13:53:50 On this map is to the left here's stay route 20 through there.
13:53:59 Discovery road is here, the crossing would be around that Point there's an existing trail system through Jefferson transit.
13:54:06 They would upgrade that, or we would upgrade.
13:54:09 That that has not been decided yet. we'd have a crossing to the south on 4 Corners road, and then we'd enter our newly acquired right away to get through this private Landowner's
property Jefferson
13:54:23 Pud, another private landowner's property and start climbing up but a 50 foot elevation Hill, and then get into a property that we purchased about 35 acres from Pope resources
heading south taken a 90
13:54:42 degree corner to the east, and then it terminating at the boundary of the State Park.
13:54:48 That location until we get that section bill in the park right and that's that's currently happening right on schedule where we want it to be.
13:55:04 So they should be ready to receive people about the time that we're ready to drop people off.
13:55:13 That's great I really appreciate Oh, i'm sorry go ahead, Kate.
13:55:18 Just in general question. I so I recently wrote human going back to the slide that showed the county line and the the whole ovt.
13:55:30 You want that zoomed in version, or do you want the bigger? Yeah, that one?
13:55:35 So I recently wrote from the county line to it's the city of Swim and
13:55:40 I was, I was surprised how many different little funky sections there were that it? it felt much more piecemeal, you know, like there was a a section that is like almost entirely
I don't prove I mean it's it's like a little
13:55:54 single mug track through some trees for short quarter mile.
13:55:59 Maybe but it seems like they have done much more, so much more kind of piecemeal, like little bits at a time.
13:56:06 You know, gotten right away funding whatever to do little pieces. and I feel like we have as a strategy focused on larger chunks, waited till we have all the funding.
13:56:17 And just just curious is that intentional like pros and cons of that is that you know I can see there's some scale of like doing construction all at once on a larger chunk makes
sense.
13:56:29 And yet I Can also say there's some benefit in once you have a you know, even if you have 2 pieces with a funky section in between. Is it?
13:56:38 Then he is here to get that funky section secured because it's going to connect to existing pieces so kind of an existential question. Right?
13:56:45 Thank you, Commissioner Dean. so in my brief period with the county.
13:56:51 It's going on 7 years now i'm following in the the the wake of a lot of effort to get the momentum up for this trail.
13:57:00 The effort started in the 1980 S. when the railroad was in place, and it would have been a really nice rail to trail conversion.
13:57:09 But funding and community support wasn't fully or I shouldn't say it wasn't up to the level that it is currently so that that middle 7 and a half mile stretch from city and
Port towns in down to the end
13:57:23 of the Larry Scott trail that was dealing with 49 different properties, 49 properties to go 7 and a half miles.
13:57:30 So if you look at the right away, acquisition portion of this trail development, that's the limiting factor.
13:57:36 If we can buy big chunks. We we got almost 2 miles of right away from Pope over 10,000 linear feet of of trail in one transaction That was amazing.
13:57:50 So that's that just advanced and accelerated the project.
13:57:55 And it. You know, we had to deal with just 4 different willing seller landowners to get this 3 mile a trail.
13:58:03 As as opposed to 49 different landowners in Column county
13:58:12 Similar similar process right away is the is the hard part.
13:58:17 So if you go through some of the trail that has a hard 90 degree corner. Well, maybe that's because the land owner only wanted to give a nice rectangular 90 degree that's only
10 feet wide so you're
13:58:29 stuck with what you've got you you're not able to make that nice sweeping 30 mile an hour.
13:58:38 Rated corner. So there are. there are places that you might need to get off your bike and walk
13:58:48 There are places that are difficult to traverse, but those we can come back and improve as time and funding become available.
13:59:00 In Jefferson County. the larry scott is Ada accessible.
13:59:04 It's got a hard surface. It has very few grades that are steeper than 5% in where they are steeper than 5%.
13:59:13 They have pullouts for resting, and a person could zigzag up the trail if they really are having a hard time getting up.
13:59:20 So it is. it is unaccessible for all trail and we wanna continue with that, so that we attract as many trail users.
13:59:31 They currently aren't trail users in the future, and I saw that Jeff. Jeff did you have something you wanted to add, Bowman, I saw your hand up for a minute ,
13:59:50 And sometimes those opportunities are of small scale and sometimes there's somewhat larger.
13:59:55 It's always required some sort of a broader vision of understanding.
13:59:59 Well, if we go for this piece here, can we count on being able to connect it to the next piece that's already there, and and and so there's a court sort of a given take in that
strategic dynamic.
14:00:13 And and I was just gonna mention commissioner dean in that one particular piece that's still a single track just a little bit west of Diamond Point Road.
14:00:23 That is a project an area owned by the James House Island tribe, and they've had to do a lot of preliminary work relating to webinars, both on that stretch and elsewhere that
14:00:37 they're doing broader mitigation work. with but they will be upgrading that to full odt standard this year.
14:00:47 This it'll be done before the end of the year. and and then they, within their jurisdiction, will have only one short piece, which they currently rely on the low volume old
Swim bay road, But it
14:01:03 will be switching to some available abandoned railroad corridor and get it off of that room.
14:01:13 So that that's part of the piecemealing over there it's still coming together, but on a very short timeline.
14:01:20 Thank you, John Fleming. Are there other things that you wanted to present on today, or how do we?
14:01:28 Wanna no, I I just wanted to have a discussion. I know that there was a lot of interest in the trail.
14:01:38 And if you have any questions i'd i'd like to feel those I mean, I feel like the things that that are Jefferson County related that we've been talking about and board meetings
are you know conversations with
14:01:51 the port and Mile Post 0 of one Scott trail and
14:01:58 The hall. Bates viewpoint out by discovery Bay so I don't know if Jeff Bowman or Selby, or Don.
14:02:08 And also we've been talking about connection to the great American trail.
14:02:12 So there's a number of local jefferson county related items.
14:02:19 We've been talking about. as a board of the print insolent trails, coalition board, and then there's a bigger regional trail issues we've been talking about.
14:02:26 So I don't know what greg and kate I don't know what you're interested in hearing about here today.
14:02:35 All that and more. Well, i'm if I could just say something I'm really interested in thinking about it.
14:02:44 We don't have to solve this now. and it's I mean it's funny that make sure that we have some of our city partners on for our next agenda item, but because I think it involves
the city too, but I
14:02:52 think we should. we should be talking, and this is a conversation that needs to happen with Monty around also.
14:03:00 But about especially with the funding for the sewer largely being complete.
14:03:08 Now we're close should we be shifting our attention and maybe it's my attention.
14:03:16 But to to the seeking you know kind of large scale funding while there's a lot of Federal dollars around for this project, and I think we would need to get pretty organized
and thinking what that asked is it is compelling that
14:03:30 has an infrastructure component with the city's portion.
14:03:35 So you know I know this is a heidi assignment. but i'm i'm happy to continue my Federal funding.
14:03:42 Push but I I think just something i'll just put it out there, since all the all the right people other than Monty and the are in the room to hear it, that you know, if we wanted
to get more organized around a specific
14:03:54 project ask I think it's the next few years is gonna be a good time to be seeking funding.
14:04:03 Can I Nest a question indicates comment I'm just curious about the the section from Anderson State Park soon down to Eagle Mount.
14:04:14 Seems like it's it's over the water pipe route right, and I'm just wondering if some of these infrastructure dollars might do double duty in and enable us to work on our multimole
trail while
14:04:24 we update infrastructure to the with that pipeline?
14:04:32 Yes, fine I may. Maybe I could try to spend a few moments and and sort of travel through several of those related areas.
14:04:50 I guess i'll start by just working geographically along the length of the trail.
14:04:59 We have for several years been urging attention for what we refer to as mile Post 0 it's. it's encouraging to know that port planning has progressed, and we've been actively
engaged through our
14:05:21 Jefferson County Board contingent and all of that.
14:05:27 And it appears that the general concept that is coming together is one that will integrate the the parking capacity of the park and ride.
14:05:43 Jefferson Transit Center and appropriate crossings over to the port and the water side of highway.
14:05:54 We know that the community is engaged. initially on deciding what they're gonna do with a bunch of trees, and we are staying out of that.
14:06:04 But we've tried to make it clear on a pretty consistent basis that we feel that my post 0 area needs to provide the capability for supporting events of as many as a 1,000 cyclists
or runners in the long run This trail
14:06:27 is gonna bring events of that sort. It already is elsewhere.
14:06:32 Along the length of the Trail and for towns and has the good fortune of being that easy, and and what therefore, is generally regarded as the start of the Olympic discovery
trail.
14:06:50 And we don't need to get into the details of that here
14:06:54 But it appears as though there, is an awareness of that need.
14:07:02 That opportunity, and it appears that there is general willingness amongst the affected jurisdictions to try and accomplish that.
14:07:12 It it seems as though we're early in those conversations still.
14:07:19 But in the meantime we will do what we can to enhance what that existing mile post 0 area looks like, and and most recently that is included working with Eric.
14:07:33 Kuzma, and trying to improve signage there.
14:07:38 I I will say first I it's not first Obviously, but I I don't want to forget to say how encouraging how wonderful it is to have gotten the level of support from county Commissioners
over the past 5 to 10 years and
14:07:58 the Commitment, of of public works and related staff to getting things done. It's it's a real pleasure to be working with John and Eric, and and when called for with Monty I'm
getting things done, on the
14:08:14 ground. we're certainly aware of the challenges that staffing and funding represent this map really illustrates like great progress is being accomplished. and I think, John
pretty well covered everything that you might want to know at this level.
14:08:34 For getting down to Anderson Lake State Park and and I will simply add that we've been happy to have a role working with representative sarringer working with the city of Port
Angeles on unspent ott
14:08:49 funds over there to get funding both to the county to cover the needs to get down to Henderson, Lake State Park, and with Washington State parks to get the work done within
Anderson Lake State Park we don't know need to go into the
14:09:08 details. but, as John says, if they're successful with getting funding for the construction which they're seeking in the upcoming round of Alright.
14:09:19 So Grant making they'll have all the funding in place to design and construct on a pretty compatible timeline that takes us down to that section from Anderson Lake Road to Eagle
Mount Road, and here.
14:09:35 Too. We have the the the tremendous good fortune of seeing an evolution in the staffing and leadership at the city.
14:09:46 It's been a pleasure to start to work with John morrow, and Steve King and look seriously at that waterline option the city can tell you more about some of the things that they're
doing to pursue the
14:10:00 waterline. There now is a general understanding that it makes sense to locate co-locate the trail with the waterline.
14:10:10 Within that portion wherever co-location makes sense.
14:10:16 Where exactly and how exactly that gets figured out will influence what the county's role would be in the other pieces of the trail between Anderson Lake Road and Eagle Mount
Roads.
14:10:31 That wouldn't fully co-locate we had a wonderful field session with Representative Faringer and Steve and others.
14:10:43 A couple of months ago, scoping all of this out a little further, and I I think the city can tell you about some maybe hopeful signs of funding for portions of that.
14:10:55 So your instincts about taking advantage of available Federal funding over the next few years is very resonant with what they're doing.
14:11:07 John gave you a great update about getting from ego out road down to the roughly the highway.
14:11:20 21 o one intersection, the only thing that we would add, There is that we are working on what we refer to as the holiday's viewpoint.
14:11:28 It will be a shelter and parking area it honors the fellow who did a tremendous amount of work in doing route, scouting and developing the plans that all of this Odt Eagle not
work
14:11:44 from 4 Corners down to Discovery Bay is now being pursued.
14:11:50 We had hoped at 1 point to have groundbreaking later this month, on what would have been all the 80 first birthday.
14:11:58 The pieces. Aren't quite coming together that quickly but we are making good progress.
14:12:04 Public notice facilitated through County DCD.
14:12:10 Is now posted. consultation is underway in the official process, with the various agencies in the Jamestown drive.
14:12:19 We are very excited about the design of we have, which will be resonant with native American log designs will be hoping to engage the tribe further. in some of the specifics
of the project at the moment we
14:12:38 are focused on getting the signature approval from Wdf.
14:12:45 W. and on route to J. Jefferson Land Trust to be able to supply water and electricity to that site.
14:12:53 And and that appears to be coming together, and we may have that loop signed off on later.
14:13:00 This week, and the the water connection in connections will be available to support construction.
14:13:08 That would then happen at the next opportune moment, depending upon season and weather and other resources.
14:13:17 So that gets you down to Discovery Bay, and getting further generally west course going north along the west side of the bay.
14:13:25 There. We were pleased to be able to finance the consultant study to look at how to connect at the north and south ends of that State route.
14:13:42 9 right of way that you all acquired last year.
14:13:44 I know that was a long effort by Eric and others to get that taken care of.
14:13:50 The methodology used for that study resulted in some fairly high dollar figures, but it does equip the county with some basic information that it can draw on to try and fine
tune and pursue whatever might be appropriate
14:14:08 there, and, in fact, given the limited physical area and ownership involved involved, that might turn out to be the next most right piece of Odt to work on, and that'll be a
a conversation for you all to have and and we will be happy
14:14:31 to participate in those conversations. Bowman Selby's had his hand up for quite a while.
14:14:41 Jeff, did you have, Selby? Did you have something you want to add?
14:14:46 First of all, thank you, Commissioners for allowing us to weigh in on this.
14:14:52 Project. I just wanted to confirm that. Yes, Eric and I have been working on site at Mile Post 0 to kind of clean up the signage there and I have also submitted to him the graphic
for a
14:15:12 large mile post 0 odt entry. sign that will identify you.
14:15:25 Started the ott from people coming in from Haynes and Zoom I've also passed along the
14:15:39 The contacts that the county used of the the washdot who were and contacted in order to put up our large highway signs showing access to the trail elsewhere.
14:15:58 In Jefferson and Clown county those signs I've been suggesting that we could put up similar signs approaching Haines away from both directions.
14:16:17 And of course that's a state highway so I had passed along to Steve King.
14:16:24 The contacts that the county used in order to get those signs placed.
14:16:33 So The only thing that is really holding us up down by the port would be the ports design and approval of design, and at that point, if need be, the entry access sign at my
host 0 would just be picked up
14:16:55 and moved I I was also a little bit surprised.
14:17:05 This is directed towards John Fleming, when you indicated that the the trail from Eagle Mont on down to discovery, they would be alongside highway 20 if I misunderstood that
please correct me
14:17:26 when Hall beats and I were doing some of the scouting for routes.
14:17:32 True that lower section Hall did a tremendous amount of research in old county files, and identified the original highway there, which runs down below the current highway.
14:17:52 20 and discovered that that right away was abandoned many years ago.
14:18:02 But it was never vacated. and so, according to his research the county still owns that right away.
14:18:10 And it seems like that would be a perfect route to Kate.
14:18:17 Advantage of that opportunity. And then commenting on the whole page viewpoint,
14:18:29 Jeff covered that. very well. I just wanted to mention that we good.
14:18:33 The whole idea of that came from hall's friends and colleagues from his law firm.
14:18:40 They have committed now over a $100,000 of their personal phones in order to move ahead with this and and construct the viewpoint.
14:18:53 So there won't be any county money required for that the Ptc.
14:18:58 Has also placed some money in in order to match that.
14:19:08 We right now estimate very roughly that this could be a total of a $150,000 mansion.
14:19:19 But it's coming along very well and have to give a shout out to Steve Duran, who retired from all term.
14:19:29 Design company, and agreed to be the project manager of that effort pro bono.
14:19:40 So we're getting some excellent professional help in that regard to that's all I had for the moment.
14:19:51 Thanks, Thanks. Jeff.
14:19:59 Don, Did you want to add something just quickly I was queued by Kate's comment about Major Federal funding, and as many of the most you know, I've been involved with the sound
olympics trail for
14:20:17 now 2 decades, and significant part of that has been where the funding comes from including Federal funding.
14:20:27 And just to say that that funding is geared toward I mean thisicities and other organizations partnering with one another.
14:20:41 It's intended to do big would not happen so i'm really encouraged with the level of attention.
14:20:54 The great American rail trail has brought, and the rails to trails.
14:20:59 Conservancies attention to the connections that when kids add Jackson and plow on counties.
14:21:08 So, anyway. that was my one comment. I wanted to make. Thanks, Gun, Kate.
14:21:15 Did you have questions or comments following up on all that I did?
14:21:19 Yeah, and I I I It was remiss, and not mentioning that the city has actually taken the lead on.
14:21:25 Jake some proposals for earmark funding for the shared project.
14:21:31 So I just want to point out that some of that work has been done, and the same has taken the lead on it.
14:21:36 And but but you know maybe it's it's my ideas terms of kind of prioritizing and focusing in on a larger Federal ask.
14:21:46 You know very much has to be timed with public works.
14:21:49 Capacity and and sequencing of this project, and others that are, you know, certainly taking up a lot of public works, time and energy.
14:21:59 So I want to acknowledge that as well.
14:22:04 Yep, Jeff, did you have something else you wanted to add moment?
14:22:06 Well, I was just gonna ask the Commissioners if they had any other questions relating to the Odt route itself before providing some information on that other area of questions
having to do with the great American rail trail and connections to
14:22:26 the canal bridge and the like. Cater Greg, do you have any other? Oh, great!
14:22:32 I see your hand up. Yeah, I just you know I think that the idea of using Hain Street as you know, I would say even a mile 0. I know that seems to be still up in the air seems
fantastic it's such an
14:22:43 underutilized parking facility that it, it seems like it would a very elevant solution.
14:22:50 So just probably that is really what I wanted to say.
14:22:54 And then I I would love to hear if John had any response to to Jeff's comment about the old railroad grade.
14:23:01 Whether that wasn't an available option or Is It still potential, or is it just just the right away?
14:23:09 I'm 20 now
14:23:15 Oh, yeah. in response to Jeff, sell these comments about what happens between Eagle Mount Road and Fairmount Hill Road?
14:23:25 I just lumped it all into the State route.
14:23:30 20 Washington State Department of Transportation right away, since the old residual Whitman Fairmont road is so close to it.
14:23:39 So yes, Jeff, we're on the same page but That's: Yeah.
14:23:47 So just acknowledge that that that's still that's still on the table.
14:23:52 Great thanks for that clarification just dominant down for the Commissioners.
14:23:56 I get it
14:24:00 Okay, I see, I see both. jeff's hands up yeah this Jeff Selby.
14:24:10 I I wanted to comment on the the route down at Discovery Bay.
14:24:26 In order to connect to the existing trail that was completed.
14:24:30 Back behind Mj. trucking. The The information is that Mj.
14:24:41 Trucking will be moving at some time in the future.
14:24:46 Don't know when that is or if it's even been scheduled yet.
14:24:51 But the trail. Then the piece of the trail that was developed.
14:24:58 Their south property line. Well, some of that will probably be abandoned, and, as as I understand it, the trail would then pull back over closer to highway.
14:25:17 101, and run along where the old trading post used to be.
14:25:26 But then we've got to create exposed salmon, and and Snow Creek to cross, and I don't you know, at this point if there are any plans or or any estimates of cost of those
14:25:44 bridges, because those will be major bridge major costs I guess i'd like to hear a comment on that as well.
14:25:57 Anything from you guys, the public works. this is Eric.
14:26:04 And we, when we developed the trail segment down at discovery rate previously what we call segment A.
14:26:09 We did some preliminary estimating on segment B, which is the the segment that Jeff Selby is referring to.
14:26:16 We estimated those bridge costs at the time obviously that's several years old or more at this point, but I think that there is enough unknowns down there.
14:26:26 That we need to just let that segment. B. No, no pun attended.
14:26:31 Let it be for the moment, until some of those falls come down out of the air, so that we can best determine what the most appropriate route is.
14:26:39 But likely we'll have some bridges and as we know that's not inexpensive, nor is the time associated with the environmental permitting.
14:26:47 But we have, luckily plenty of other segments to work on.
14:26:50 In the meantime.
14:26:54 Yeah, my sense throughout my about a year and a half now hanging out with the Peninsula trails coalition team is that there's no shortage of opportunity for activity.
14:27:06 And there's an serious overallocation of need in terms of projects that public works is working on.
14:27:13 And you know it's just constant state of triage so I don't know if you know coming up with a bigger vision or a bigger funding package.
14:27:23 Maybe something we do collaboratively with the city and Then we need to time that to work with everyone's dance cards.
14:27:32 You know everything that everyone's working on like kate mentioned earlier.
14:27:38 There are big projects going on in Jefferson County right now.
14:27:43 Jeffty Bowman, do you still have your hand up Yes, ma'am?
14:27:48 2 quick agenda on what we've been talking about. and then, if you'd like i'll give a summary of things between discovery Bay and the canal bridge part of what
14:28:02 we're doing with the hall based viewpoint and the 2 parcels involved in that footprint which are currently owned by Jefferson Land Trust, and are anticipated to be transferred
to long-term
14:28:16 ownership of Wdf. W. as a part of that entire Short Line restoration program, is that we have initiated the discussions that should result in easement on the entirety of those
2 parcels
14:28:35 and possibly some other parcels in the current ownership status that will allow for the future.
14:28:43 Great to be routed somewhere within those parcels.
14:28:49 We were strongly advised by W. Dfw.
14:28:52 In fact, that, it was much better to achieve incumbent is such as a viewpoint, shelter and parking area, such as the ability to build a future trail along some yet to be determined
alignment before
14:29:15 the property transferred into the ownership of Wdf. W.
14:29:20 So we are anticipating that and doing in consultation with public works.
14:29:25 We are doing whatever we can to establish the most flexible and hospitable environment for future work.
14:29:36 That's on a yet to be determined paces and Yeah, I I guess i'll leave it at that and and move over to talking about who can outbridge to discovery.
14:29:53 Bay. maybe just too quick email things to say, and and then maybe something of a conversation.
14:30:03 We have looked at the various ways in which one could get in some reasonable way, either by vice or by a hiking, walking, pedestrian non motorized trail from Hood Canal to the
odt somewhere and
14:30:23 Roughly speaking, we have identified for potential nodes where trail could connect to Olympic Discovery trail.
14:30:36 One would be at Anderson Lake Road, So some sort of a route that gets from the Canal bridge across the Quimper Peninsula and ties into the Odt, where the Odt is crossing it
Anderson Lake
14:30:53 road as a second location. Well, and actually the the further north, one would be way up north at the 1920 merge third, one south would be at the Eagle Mount.
14:31:06 Intersection again finding some cross-country alignment.
14:31:12 Initially it could be using the roads in the long term it might be a different alignment, but eventually connecting to the Odt.
14:31:22 At where he crosses Eagle Mount, and the third would roughly be following.
14:31:28 Highway corridors or in proximity cross country, and join the Odt.
14:31:36 Right at discovery. Bay. those are all very much in the conceptual stage.
14:31:43 But there have been conceptual conversations for the past 2 or 3 years, both within the context of the Us.
14:31:53 Bike route system and cycling interests with the work up to Land trust.
14:32:03 Looking at the economic opportunities that recreation present and some of the workshops and shirts of sorts that were held in that regard, and and the trails coalition, though
it's not a part of the
14:32:16 Olympic Discovery Trail has, decided that it is willing to take on an additional role to try and offer its capabilities to that additional work, to find a good connection from
her canal to the Odt and in that
14:32:37 line. The second thing to introduce is and Don alluded to this somewhat earlier when the real estate trails coalition came out for their site.
14:32:50 Visit in June. I believe it was of this year.
14:32:56 They've long been impressed at what we've Been getting done out here at the west end of the great American rail trail, and once they saw it on the ground, a couple of Their
key Dc.
14:33:07 Staff people said, This is, this is a product. This is an area that would lend itself to a raise project.
14:33:15 A raise funding opportunity raise R. A. is is the new version of what used to be the tiger grants and the build Grants transportation non motorized transportation orientation,
and and they urged
14:33:35 us to look at that further and informal discussions over the ensuing months, including a kind of a strategic conversation with them.
14:33:46 In early July has led to a working effort. i'll call it on the part of the 3 trail Oriented nonprofit advocacy organizations in the 3 counties. the pencil
14:34:07 Trails collision on behalf of Klom and Jefferson County.
14:34:11 The North Kit Sap Trails Association on behalf of Kitstep County and the Bainbridge Island Parks and Trails foundation specifically on the part of Cambridge, Island and to make
a Long
14:34:27 conversation short at this stage, we are in the early stages of the 3 organizations coming to an agreement that we would be coming to all of the jurisdictions in effect with
an offer we would offer to fund for
14:34:48 what we estimate would be about a $150,000 to hire a consultant, to do the work, to produce a raise.
14:34:59 Grant that would be submitted to the Federal process over Grant Review in approximately a year the general theme purpose of the grant would be to complete all of the undone
pieces.
14:35:16 The great American rail trail from winslow to the push and we've been led to believe that it's a a project that should compete well, bringing together the multiple jurisdictions
that it does having the
14:35:35 multiple tribal participants that it would have representing the completion of what would be on the order of almost 200 miles the Western.
14:35:50 Most 200 miles of the great American rail trail, providing a connection all the way trail connection all the way from the urban area on the east side of the Sound across to
the ocean.
14:36:04 It has, seemingly a lot of very attractive conceptual elements to it.
14:36:13 What it would end up. Looking like is really hard to say at this time.
14:36:18 We have broached the subject a little bit with the city of port towns, and in those field conversations about the waterline, because there is some indication that, shall we
say associated or secondary capital projects that link to a trail
14:36:37 centered proposal can increase the competitiveness of the proposal.
14:36:44 But this is something that could be on the order of 50 million dollars or more.
14:36:50 2 achieve that work it. Theoretically, we we envisioned that The 3 nonprofits would, with the agreement with the concurrence of the Jersey be responsible for managing the consultant
to get
14:37:09 the project done. we imagined that the jurisdictions would be asked to help in the provision of technical information and other data that the consultant would need to develop
the report. and and we would go from there we
14:37:28 have thoughts about. if the grant were successful, how the management of those funds would operate
14:37:40 And and we can have those conversations in due course. but we will be asking the jurisdictions to in effect sign off because at the time that the grant application goes in,
it will need to have that
14:37:57 jurisdictional support. The application might well have to go in under the signature of a governmental entity.
14:38:05 We think that quite possibly the Prtpo would be the appropriate entity to be the official submitter of the grand
14:38:21 We envisioned that the Grant could fund Pr Tpo staff to manage the grant.
14:38:28 If that were the way that the parties of interest wanted to handle it.
14:38:32 Various ways to skin that cat as we get to it down the road.
14:38:36 But today your request for a workshop discussion was just perfectly timed to bring this larger concept to you.
14:38:47 Obviously it draws on your own notions about taking advantage of funding opportunities of looking bigger.
14:38:53 Picture. And one thing that we're also enthusiastic about is that most all of the groundwork that would be done to submit this proposal, even if it turned out the proposal where
it's successful would be
14:39:08 important work to set the stage for pursuing those projects in other factions, and i'll leave it at that super big exciting funding opportunity, though.
14:39:22 Let's sit kate on it. 50 million dollars kate go I said, Don, I saw your hand go up, and we'll probably try and wrap this agenda. Add item up around by around 2 45 just because
14:39:37 We have another workshop scheduled for this afternoon, so gone.
14:39:42 I just thought you might appreciate a little bit of headlines about what has happened and is in the works in Kitzap County.
14:39:54 And what I would say is that you may know that we have a mile of sound Olympics trail constructed on damage, and recently competed a very small but strategic section that connects
to our
14:40:10 whole school complex but also the city of Amber Island with
14:40:17 A lot of assistance from the Denver, Java and Parks and Trails Foundation,
14:40:25 Has just hired a consultant team to do the feasibility for the complete route between
14:40:32 Winslow to yeah, I get pass bridge beyond the Egot Pass Bridge.
14:40:40 The city of paul's bowl is in construction of a roundabout that includes about a 1,000 feet of sound Olympics trail, including going through a tunnel under the round of pound
and they have plans for
14:40:52 how the trail gets up to the bottom of Port Campbell.
14:40:58 And so, and in Port Campbell we've already done a feasibility study for the where the Sto goes in the 3,500 Acre Park, and it's more than 6 miles most of which is on
14:41:11 existing bugging road. So so in effect, 6 miles plus of the sound Olympics trail exists.
14:41:20 No in in Port Temple then the Kitzak County is in the middle of a study for the route between Kingston.
14:41:35 Oh, that So branch from the stal between Kingston and the bottom of Port Campbell!
14:41:41 So all of this is in the works now so that's a bookend, I think, to all of what Jefferson and Cloud and counties are working on
14:41:56 So any follow up questions from Commissioners on all of that exciting information we just heard.
14:42:07 Well, it seems to me like you know, we need to to assess the capacity it's public works.
14:42:14 And you know I i'm largely. out of the loop on chat conversations right now we've assigned one kishner, and I miss it dearly.
14:42:22 But if if there is a kind of strategic conversation that needs to happen, I yeah, we could do it here, or happy to to just carry water and shake trees in Washington, Dc: when
I was there at business
14:42:37 I do. I just wanna call out, too, that I I mean I'm excited by the raise brand idea, i'm excited by Pr Tpo potentially being the applicant, so that public works doesn't have
to do when they have a number of
14:42:49 other massive projects going on. I do think You know, we have talked before about the land and Water Conservation Fund, which comes through Rco and compete at the State level
for that because this does help.
14:43:04 Access Federal lands also put essentially So I think we wanna keep that in mind, or at least at least keep in mind the access to Federal labs.
14:43:13 In in looking at Race Grant also. So have ideas interested in in pursuing this.
14:43:19 If there is capacity on public works and
14:43:28 Any other thoughts. Questions: Greg, do you have something else here and muted?
14:43:31 Oh, yeah, I just agree. I am I am concerned about public works capacity with the sewer and everything else going on.
14:43:38 So I I can't imagine the prpto being a really a a great great application.
14:43:42 So I like that idea. But whatever washes out it's really it's exciting.
14:43:47 Just great stuff, you know. and if we want to do some more trail, you know the parks are recognizable and keeps talking about connecting Anderson State Park to Kimicum Park
to you know to kind of connect
14:44:00 that that area over there at the corner into that area and it's just something we should keep in our minds.
14:44:07 I know we don't need to you know just it would really open up.
14:44:13 Multi-modal access throughout the try area.
14:44:15 But this is really exciting. I appreciate the update from everyone in the all the work that that everyone here has has put into this project, and it's it's great to have such
community support.
14:44:25 It's really a bulwark for this work and it it wouldn't happen without about the work of of you know, Al baby and others.
14:44:33 So, Thanks, guys, and there's been a lot of small segments of trail accomplished, you know, like the one between the library and the elementary school, and hadlock, and you
know, I think i've heard in conversations with
14:44:46 Eric in the past. conversations about hooking up segments of these trails, or these little trails that we've already got.
14:44:53 So I think the public works is still has a has a back of the napkin plan, and it's still working on how to connect the segments of trail.
14:45:04 We have in the triia and i'm sure when they're ready to share their plan, or need help they'll reach out to us.
14:45:10 I saw Eric nodding his head. So Jeff, Sylvia, I see your hand up
14:45:18 Yeah, I just wanted to mention that. We have a great resource here.
14:45:25 In Jefferson County, in the form of another Jeff, Mr.
14:45:31 Chapman who as you know, is a passionate advocate of trails from the equestrian side.
14:45:41 And i've had several conversations with henry possible routes from the Hook.
14:45:49 Now bridge. So he's a great resource he's also very much on board.
14:45:57 Another consideration that he suggested was that there's a possibility that state parks may could possibly consider making the hood canal to discovery bay route linear state
park which has the
14:46:21 precedent of the close to Cascades Park.
14:46:28 So that's one more approach, that. could be considered there thanks Jeff. and I think we're gonna give Jeff Bowen the last word unless someone raises their hand and then we're
going
14:46:43 Okay, we need to move on to an exchange item but Jeff, i'm gonna give you the last word, and then we're gonna open it up for public comment and see if anyone has anything they
need to add understood Commissioner I
14:46:52 just wanted, on behalf of all of us to thank you very much.
14:46:56 The time today. I can't help but be thinking about the fact that,
14:47:09 About a month ago one of the co-founders along with Larry Scott of the Trails collision, and the people who originated the concept of the Olympic discovery for Hill Mike Langley
14:47:20 sadly passed away sooner than we would have liked
14:47:26 So having conversations like this with county leadership 30 some years later, is just fantastic.
14:47:34 We very appreciative of the work you all and staff do on the trail, and if you want to come join us for a party on September eleventh at the Dangers River Nature's Center, we're
going
14:47:49 to be having a our annual celebration from 4, 30 to 6, 30.
14:47:57 Come, join us for pizza. Thank you very much for all your support and your time, and we'll just keep on keeping on.
14:48:04 Thank you, Jeff and don't jump off just yet We're gonna open this to see if there's anyone on the line who has a public comment about the trail. and I see Jeff Chapman has his
hand raise So
14:48:15 If anyone is on the attendee list today, I would like to be brought over for public comment.
14:48:21 Please raise your hand using the raise hand. button at the bottom of the zoom screen.
14:48:25 I think we I only see one that's jeff chapman so we'll bring.
14:48:28 We brought him over, and Jeff Jeff, we'll get the last word which is fitting.
14:48:34 Yes, I i've been working on these projects, as well, i've been involved in trails for 40 50 years, and in in addition to being the assessor, and, and, of course, being the assessor
I know how
14:48:46 financially strapped the county is, and how tough it is on public works to expand their their projects beyond what they're really dealing with.
14:48:55 So I am working on, trying to figure out and and assist with finding a route from the Click Canal Bridge up to Discovery Bay.
14:49:02 It's gonna be hard when the sound olympics gets pleaded to that point, and you suddenly have a 100 bikers showing up on the hood canal bridge, and having a deal with possibly
a
14:49:14 roundabout at Shine Road and and paradise Bay Road.
14:49:19 So you know That's all got to be thought out and planned, and so i'm working on it I got an upcoming meeting with John Snyder of the Governor's office and the barb
14:49:27 Chamberlain, you know, of laws dot and we're gonna and Jeff selby's gonna be on that meeting, and we're gonna sit around try to find out some other options.
14:49:35 There is the statute that defines a cross date trail route, and it only goes.
14:49:40 It includes police to cast gay trail but it really doesn't go West from there yet.
14:49:47 So we're discussing that state statute to see if we could maybe include this route in it.
14:49:53 But it is a state park statute and a Wasdot statute, so we're at we're exploring that, and see if somehow we can formalize that statute in Olympia and then have a
14:50:04 gift support for routing the great American rail trail across the county.
14:50:08 So that's all I had to say thanks jeff thanks for joining us today.
14:50:13 All the jeffs the trinity of jeff's and John and Eric and don really productive conversation, and I think we have a lot of work ahead of us.
14:50:25 That's what I take away from this So we're gonna move on to our last agenda item of the day, which is a conversation with the city.
14:50:32 Thank you guys. And John quit sharing his screen.
14:50:39 Oh, and yeah, yeah, very good. Okay, We need to kind of accelerate this because John Morrow and his staff.
14:50:49 They got a a council meeting tonight. They got to prepare for So can I introduce the subject matter and can we bring John and Emma and Steve King over like they're all coming
over alright.
14:51:01 I'm gonna tie this up quickly and turn it over to Miss tomorrow.
14:51:05 Back in November the Board had a Barbara and capital workshop, and one of the items the Board had on its preliminary commitment list, which was really kind of a thought exercise
for monies that
14:51:18 we expect to receive but haven't yet we haven't even heard when we're gonna receive those monies and how much?
14:51:24 But even though we haven't heard we still need to make preparations for it, cause I I do expect it to to get here and
14:51:32 So, anyway. John and his folks are gonna talk about the Evans Vista project.
14:51:35 So, John. Thanks. Mark hi! County Commissioners. Thanks for the opportunity.
14:51:41 Great to see everybody Now i'm i'm i'm guessing I could share my screen here.
14:51:46 I think that's probably the easiest way to go Maybe i'll first say like wow tough active follow with Ptc.
14:51:53 And company here. So that was fun to be part of that listening to that, because we've obviously been in good contact, and it's just a good example of jurisdictions working together.
14:52:03 So top marks for that workshop and your leadership on the trail and trails in general.
14:52:09 I know it really resonates with the work we're trying to do, and actually partners very nicely.
14:52:12 So lots of opportunity ahead. So i'm gonna just just maybe. Thank you also for the fact.
14:52:18 This is the first conversation or time, this is likely come to your to your information, and in discussion I want to do a quick intro of 2 key staff people.
14:52:32 And then we'll go through a powerpoint which I know you have, and probably read and we'll try to cruise through that pretty quickly by taking a few chunks each on that but first.
14:52:39 I wanted to introduce Steve King our public works director. who's been integral to this project.
14:52:47 It kind of, you know, really covering for both public works and planning. before Emma Boland has joined us as planning community development.
14:52:55 Director. I know a county of clothing, so maybe both for for him.
14:52:59 They are just really tagging this opportunity for the side.
14:53:05 I think sort of strategic models that we have in the space so i'll just go through the first.
14:53:14 Oh, 6 of the slab i'll dish it off to Steve. A lot of it's due diligence with the similar map, and so we can go through that relatively quickly.
14:53:20 We have probably 1Â min of slide, and then Emma can clean up at the end with the the last 2 or 3 slides before we move to discussion.
14:53:29 So really the objective here is is maybe threefold.
14:53:33 One is to just give you a status update because i've been really grateful to have conversations with Mark, and in the some commissioners about this, as it's evolved, and they've
been helpful in guiding
14:53:44 the direction the path. we've taken this second thing is to really affirm a partnership on how we want to move from here.
14:53:51 Forward, and I know that we all are startling with both.
14:53:55 How to what the impacts of and the intention to make progress and workforce and affordable housing supply and and really further infrastructure for for neighborhood connected.
14:54:07 You know it's like the conversation you just had around trails and public amenities to continue to make this a great region to live in.
14:54:14 And then the last thing which you know i'll put up front, and then we'll end with is really want to make a pitch if we can for some state revenue share funding realizing it's
you know it's
14:54:23 it's not it's not clear cut but like to make the case that this project actually deliver on joint county city inspirations with really common a lot of commonality here for what
it would serve both of us institutionally
14:54:37 and those in our region, and just to be very clear it's to make this shovel ready for development, so that we can go and get a 100 to 150 units moving.
14:54:48 Okay, So a little bit of background i'll cruise this really fast, because I know you've read it.
14:54:51 But for the sake of public members listening here, this really began early the beginning of last year, where we started speaking with some of those State representatives.
14:55:04 You. you were just mentioning on our legislative priority list, and we've worked subsequently to receive some funding with some help from our representatives for infrastructure
for affordable housing to the 2 different 2 brands worth
14:55:17 3.1 million dollars. Thank you to. There are delegation for that and our relationships.
14:55:24 We enjoy a large activity earlier in Mid mid last year we entered into a purchase and sale contract, or the the property which is at the end of Evans Vista Street, and so it's
taken the you know the name
14:55:35 Evans just as a property and as a neighborhood in September.
14:55:40 We actually came to the Council some infrastructure Development committee to give an overview of the property, and really began our diligence approach through your greater detail.
14:55:49 We performed some outreach, including a meeting with housing solutions network, I think all 10 or so providers and agencies also.
14:55:57 Mark was kind enough to sit in that meeting as well.
14:56:00 To really think through the big picture of this before a big week progress.
14:56:03 And then next slide is you know, really getting into the zoning infrastructure requirements for the property next month we authorize the you know the City Council authorize
a cultural resources survey for the property good news bad news
14:56:17 not to dwell there, but didn't find any likely cultural resources.
14:56:22 But historically, for those history books it was likely a quarantine house back in the late 1,008 hundreds, and so that presented some challenges with acquiring the property
and making sure that we De-risk that for ourselves and for the
14:56:33 community. in December that year. The Grant agreement was completed for the purchase, which was from almost exclusively from that State of Department of Commerce Grant
14:56:45 And then we get the survey findings from that cultural resources.
14:56:48 Survey and then purchase the property. in in March.
14:56:53 We applied for congressional directed spending much like you've done, and we're in the same boat, actually, which is which is a good boat to be in, because it's floating.
14:57:01 It looks like It's going the right direction and that we are likely to receive Federal funding for this project alongside Headlock sewer.
14:57:10 We've been just maybe not quite as tenacious in the long term, as you have been over decades.
14:57:15 But we we really particularly. Steve and team, really went really hard to to try to get that funding and hi this team.
14:57:25 And and I guess I just told the second part of story.
14:57:27 Hey? send it in a presidential signature we'll have a Monday.
14:57:31 So there's a lot more there. but I just want to cruise through that quickly and happy to take questions after.
14:57:37 But you know, just wanted to paint the picture of a general vision here.
14:57:41 And just highlighted some words and sort of reading the whole thing and trying to explain what this could mean, because it might mean something different for everybody involved.
14:57:47 But really we need diverse quality affordable and stable housing for our community. You know it's it sort of underpins, equity, and inclusive, and and help for our community.
14:57:58 It has to be done within the the i'd say community expectations for
14:58:04 Our identity in our history. And it really has to be neighborhood based.
14:58:08 It has to really be about building a neighborhood that's nested and connected to amenities and opportunities.
14:58:15 You know where people can live, work in play, and really a community asset.
14:58:18 And then finally, I think this might be my last slide. the you know, the goals of this specific project are at least fivefold.
14:58:27 One is long, lasting, affordable housing for the 50 to 80%.
14:58:31 Ami range you know, which you know government subsidy can help with quite considerably.
14:58:37 We're also trying to stretch into a place which has been just, you know, objectively difficult for us.
14:58:42 You other agencies like Pha, and really targeting that 8,220%, Am I?
14:58:50 And you know, really looking at, could we get 50 to 100 units in that space for what we're calling workforce housing?
14:58:55 I mean, I guess others call it there but we're defining that 80 to 120, as as middle or or workforce housing?
14:59:03 The third thing is really developing a different set of types of housing in the same place.
14:59:07 So studios 1, 2 bedrooms, diversity of income levels.
14:59:10 So as to have a mix of housing affordability in in one location.
14:59:16 And of course, the first thing activities. you know, child, care, family services, retail commercial, just ways to make it work in the confines of that overlay and the reunion
subway plan which I think stephen emma will speak
14:59:29 a little, too. And then the last thing is really to activate that space being activated as a neighborhood. really you know, it's right next to the header, Scott trail.
14:59:36 The previous conversation. and and an active commercial and business environment that's growing and developing.
14:59:42 So, you know, if we can, if we can tick all those things off and be successful.
14:59:47 This will have been a complete success for us and it's gonna take time, and we'll get into that later.
14:59:52 But we're trying to you know make sure that this is development ready.
14:59:55 So we can actually achieve that success, So I think i'll i'll pass it over to Steve to go through some of the property due diligence.
15:00:04 Thanks, thanks, John. When we started this we looked around the city and tried to find properties.
15:00:11 That would be sizeable enough to facilitate up to 100 units, and it's really tough and port counts.
15:00:17 And because of our pre plotted nature and fractured ownership patterns, there's just not very many large parcels left in the city.
15:00:25 We actually looked at some properties that the City Council back in the late 2,000 surplus for affordable housing, but all of them were small, and when we met with representative
there injured, You know we really understood that we needed to find something
15:00:38 where we could the number of units next slide, John. and so and this this property 14 point, 4 acres right?
15:00:50 The end of Atmosphere Street, basically between Mill Road, behind the forest flock.
15:00:55 As you come into town really lens itself well to more units and its location, and i'll just go through some of the highlights here.
15:01:03 Go ahead, and next slide there's about out of 14.4 acres.
15:01:09 There's about 8 acres it's usable for healthy, and the rest of it's pretty steep.
15:01:15 Bill Side is a great soft town down towards Mill Road in the middle
15:01:19 So the flat section shown in red up there by the dss building. and then there's a gentle slope that goes on down for its coefficients down towards the intersection.
15:01:33 That variation blue. next slide John beautiful thing about this property is it's already gone through a comprehensive planning process through the ring.
15:01:38 Here's and so in that set area plan it identifies goal for workforce housing and a variety of housing types. and it's all done in conjunction with economic development.
15:01:51 So the chicken and aqua is it Housing first? is the economic development.
15:01:56 First the plan really strides to achieve both. And so this is a
15:02:03 This project really supports, you know, to see some of those economic goals next slide, and in the plan it actually designates this area as a workload district in the blue.
15:02:14 And that kind of makes sense being a little bit set back.
15:02:17 And so again fits well off the client in that the work district it identified potential housing types.
15:02:27 It basically specified. We need housing, from one to 3 stories and hike, and a variety of types as well as the architectural style.
15:02:37 And it just kinda laid them the the groundwork for future development work. Fine work. Okay.
15:02:44 Next slide, so the zoning is Amc. which is very broad to the designation.
15:02:52 All that area in purple is just designated. Mc: We just basically like manufacturing commercial next slide, and residential units are permitted in multi-family townhouse form,
or single family attached
15:03:07 single family detached is prevented and reason why is that we're really trying to seek density next slide.
15:03:16 John mentioned we. we did our cultural resources work. initially.
15:03:20 We did a number of test bits out there, and more recently, since we discovered the potential of Test House resources, we actually, excavated the top 6 to 12 inches of the ground,
which got us down to the heart pan we were
15:03:36 looking for the potential for great shafts, and we did not find any.
15:03:41 So working with department of archeology and historic preservation.
15:03:48 We went through that process, and cleared our clear the way for the project.
15:03:53 The other. benefit of this property is, we have the recently developed brand new regional stormwater facility down on Mill Road, and this property directly benefits and allows
a place for storm water to be discharged.
15:04:05 Next Slide Street infrastructures are just installed with the public streets, so that in reduces the offsite improvement costs.
15:04:16 Basically, we don't have any upside. improvements except for towards the end of our slides.
15:04:24 Okay, next slide here's a picture of the regional rate stormwater facility and the access road.
15:04:32 So pipe is buried under that access road which also, strategically, Bill have a grade that would work for not only vehicle access or more at access, but also trail access as
a connection to the Larry Scott
15:04:44 trail, and there's already lost here on both sides of the property.
15:04:51 So again nicely situated right for fire protection next slide, and there is a little bit of sewer capacity here in that there's a 2 inch force main.
15:05:01 That was as installed here I think, when that force mean was installed. It was anticipated that there would not be it would be more like a an office type environment like Dss
and so that's a
15:05:15 little bit limiting although you could get a 100 units on that.
15:05:20 Force me the calendar with the force main is, you need to build a sewer list station in order to pump the sewage up over the hill.
15:05:27 So next slide that's what building infrastructure in the right location.
15:05:35 One time is really important. and so back in 2012 or 2,009, I believe it was started, and then again in 2,012.
15:05:44 There was a study to understand. If you were going to build a sewer lift station on this end of town, where would you build it so that if things changed in the future, either
Uta urban growth area changes or maybe
15:05:58 Glencoe area. wanted to connect the you would build it in a place basically down by the mill.
15:06:06 And so here we have an opportunity to serve evans this that and build a lift station in a in a good location. And that's part of the reason why we've requested additional funding
level funding for this project Okay.
15:06:24 cool. Thank you, Steve. So that brings us to talking a little bit about the stakeholder outrage that's already been conducted for the sub area plan, and continuing with our
build out of this project so
15:06:40 Jefferson County housing solutions, network regional housing providers were solicited for support.
15:06:48 But we're not done yet. so now that we have purchased a property.
15:06:51 We expect that more do diligence will be needed.
15:06:56 That is, on things like site layouts. what kind of capacity our housing partners will have to build all of these units, and what our vision is.
15:07:05 So public engagement is also likely going to be a part of that process.
15:07:08 So basically, who's bringing what and what does it look like next slide, please?
15:07:14 And there's some things that we don't know since the submarines plan, several years, including a pandemic, have passed, and it's time to actually you know take the next steps
and figuring out who was going to
15:07:28 build the units. What interest is there what mix of buildings are anticipated in terms of live work units, or attached single family or multi-family?
15:07:41 What the housing mix is going to be in terms of affordability points in the performance of the workforce housing, and what the phasing is going to be given the scale of the
project, and also the capacity of our
15:07:55 partners and very importantly, what will the aesthetic be?
15:08:01 Our sub area plan sets a certain tone for what we would expect.
15:08:07 But this is our chance to really Figure out what the key desires are going to be.
15:08:14 So we can make it a successful project next slide. Thank you.
15:08:17 So the status of funding just to recap what John had mentioned earlier.
15:08:22 So there's been substantial investment from state of Washington.
15:08:28 So 1.3 7 million dollars that we've received for the purchase of the property, 1.7 million dollars for utility infrastructure that's for affordable housing
15:08:40 And then the Federal Government your mark which is anticipated a little bit later this year of 200 and a half 1 million dollars for that sewer infrastructure, and there's possibly
additional funding opportunities from the
15:08:53 Epa for sewer as well. And so this project is time for investment.
15:08:58 We are requesting $500,000 in our our State revenue shares and what next? slide?
15:09:05 What we think that that is going to cover is going to be site studies, whitelines, donation, tree conservation, compliance, study the project visioning of public outreach, which
in my opinion, is probably the most fun where we
15:09:23 look at the development patterns and schematic to address our needs.
15:09:28 Our financial analysis. Looking at the various alternatives. 30% preliminary engineering.
15:09:35 Our entitlements, project management can, and contingency adds up to $500,000.
15:09:41 So. my final slide. I just would like to say for years that this has been a multi jurisdictional partnership, as the city and the county employees work side by side to secure
the infrastructure that will one
15:09:57 day serve this I only important housing development, and as we worked we also said goodbye to valued colleagues supporting our work.
15:10:05 Some who really needed the housing that were on the ground permitting and participating and advocating for this development.
15:10:12 And as institutions, we each struggle with housing a attainability directly as an impacts.
15:10:18 Our ability to deliver services to our community. So this funding, if it could be available, it comes at a strategic time to further this community investment.
15:10:30 So thank you very much, and please let us know if we can answer any questions
15:10:41 I would just say thanks for the update i've heard a little bit about this project.
15:10:48 I'm assuming that kate would be our commissioner who'd be working most closely with this project.
15:10:56 Correct well, it's in your district that's Why, I said that .
15:11:04 Supportive of it. Certainly one one question I have i'm curious
15:11:11 Do you feel like you have a sense of how to attract developers.
15:11:18 Housing providers. once the infrastructure is in to support that, like what?
15:11:23 What's your level of certainty that we would be able to attract the type of development that is needed.
15:11:29 Maybe i'll take a first cut at that and then defer the experts, and just say,
15:11:33 That's a I don't like saying this but I will say it's a great question, because because it's something we've been we've been thinking about ever since the inception here, and
it's really probably the hardest
15:11:42 part, and I guess i'll only add that the more development ready. The property is the greater likelihood a constellation of agencies, or somebody will want to take it up and
I think we lower the barrier to entry
15:11:56 there's probably a much more technical analysis that steve or Emma might be able to offer as well.
15:12:02 I would just add on that The Siberia plan was really great in terms of perspective, of tailoring, something for marketability in the city, for towns.
15:12:14 And so you know sort of the your bones of having 2 to 3 stories of loop work units, and you know the allowable uses is probably more.
15:12:24 You know easier for some developers to get financing.
15:12:29 But you know we would be looking substantially for housing partners that are already here in the community.
15:12:36 They're doing this type of development to follow up on that would it be a Oh, i'm sorry Steve go ahead.
15:12:45 I was just gonna say, I think the the planning process that we embarked upon now is what also sets the stage.
15:12:51 The hope is you come out of that plane process with the interest the department's ready to take on.
15:12:58 Yeah, I guess my follow up question was just it it's gonna be a a tapestry of developers is what I the impression I got from you guys right?
15:13:05 I mean. let's see and how you're talking about the workforce, and the you know more grant fundable the Ami as well.
15:13:14 I think I I love the way that it's integrated together. and I do feel like we have some of those partners in place already that can hit those different different income levels
with grace.
15:13:26 So I i'm really excited to see this develop you know It's the first time I've really been more than that as a gleam in the eye, and I i'm really excited to see this though I
do I mean I always thought about it as the
15:13:39 Evans vista project right and now until you guys come up with a name.
15:13:42 It's gonna be the state pest house so you gotta come up with the name pretty quick.
15:13:48 Maybe there's a council or a commission action there to say suggest a name, but if their point i'll i'll just go back to just to share the screen.
15:13:58 So this is a slide. you saw earlier it's like 12 it's in your packet. but to your point, Commissioner Brotherton, just the idea of a constellation and that configuration.
15:14:08 That is you know on excuse me that's not the that's your sharing your your desktop screen.
15:14:13 Oh, gosh, Okay, the lovely photo of madeleine that's funny.
15:14:18 Okay, Well, that's what's on the screen but Anyway, you can go to your I'll stop now. but you you
15:14:23 You get the point I guess there's a there's a visual there, and I think that's pretty important for the community, not only just to to see the fact that there's a phasing use
utilizing the strengths
15:14:33 of individual agencies. We already have great relationships with but you know It's not all developable. but 14 point.
15:14:39 4 acres is it's a pretty good amount of real estate to play with.
15:14:43 So there's a lot that's possible here given that you know, given the opportunities both with the site size, but also the requirements for density there.
15:14:52 If I could follow up a little bit. I appreciate your optimism, Greg.
15:14:57 But I think we have. I mean it has not been easy to attract mixed income development here at all.
15:15:07 And I guess i'm just curious if if the city has kind of researched tools that you know.
15:15:14 I I agree that I think it's the job of government to build infrastructure that will make it more attractive to more developers.
15:15:22 But are there tools whereby we can ensure that that housing built is for mixed income, and actually i'm fine with some market rate housing.
15:15:33 But you know we know that at the way the general market works is that the highest better always wins, and that affordable housing meat subsidy.
15:15:42 And you know these are the realities. So are there tools or the mechanisms that can be put in place, so that we do ensure the type of mixed income neighborhoods. that we know
that we need yeah, I mean my my first
15:15:52 cut at that, and I think Emma probably has a more precise answer.
15:15:56 I think just The very fact that the city owns the land is at least one of those first tools.
15:16:02 Because we we can make some. We we control the site, you know, so so we can really determine what gets built.
15:16:09 Now, will it pencil? and will somebody pick up the challenge?
15:16:12 You know that your points an excellent one because you know we don't.
15:16:14 We don't know it's the the most accurate answer but I think there are other tools we've been working through, even through the city Council process with another property currently
in play, where we can we can have some degree of
15:16:26 control in the outcome, whether it be density or affordable housing of some kind.
15:16:31 But, Evan, do you want to buttress my answer with something more precise?
15:16:35 Good to say that, you know, since we are the owners we're also the permit permitors and so the planned unit development or binding site planning, that we can, you know include
in some of those
15:16:48 entitlements with the affordability, slash, attainability.
15:16:55 Price points are and what the you know, delivery is going to be in terms of timeline.
15:17:02 I guess my other comment is that you know it's so great that you've done this up area planning so that that, really, you know, sets a tone for what that area should look like
and just that you know as we
15:17:15 have inched closer to the idea of annexation.
15:17:19 This being right on the city county line. you know there's more yet more opportunity for working together a city and county and thinking about that that region.
15:17:32 And yeah, I think it's it's a great next step but it I don't know it just it's like a a puzzle where you can finally see the shape to me so I I I mean I defend my
15:17:41 optimism. I I think I think maybe maybe the more grant funded pieces happen first.
15:17:49 But I I really appreciate your approach of kind of building the whole puzzle first with the the community, because I I think that we need to embrace this kind of project and
and buttress, it and I mean it's
15:18:01 super exciting and the lift station going in to be able to add that infrastructure.
15:18:07 I take. Take steve's point that is something that is is really gonna open up some, some further conversations, and and you know, not easy conversations, but with some a lot
of potential upside.
15:18:17 So yeah, Commissioner, I think also to shut out your leadership too, because I think in a way like 7 Haven is proof of concept.
15:18:26 You know it's. pretty astounding to get something that excellent in our community at that scale, and that density, and I feel like in our minds.
15:18:34 Maybe i'm a little bit too over here. but you know this is a proof of concept for the kind and the typology that we need in this region of.
15:18:42 We are going to clamor out of an affordability, crisis and if if you know to Commissioner Dean's Point, it's really it's gonna be hard to do this, especially at the higher or
middle housing level.
15:18:52 But if we can't then to emma's point you know we as institutions fail to attract and retain the talent we need to keep city government going.
15:19:01 You gotta give it a shot. So I I have to remind folks that we have a public comment on this item on the agenda as well.
15:19:10 So unless it's Is everyone ready for opening for public up Guys not great.
15:19:18 I'm not done no I really I have a question for Mark.
15:19:20 I can. You can remind me we had talked I mean there was an ask in here that we haven't really addressed yet, and I I do want to make sure that we talk about that 500, K.
15:19:27 Because I think we talked about the Federal revenue sharing that is, is still.
15:19:33 You just have to go over that what our projective timeline is, and we we didn't double promise or anything right.
15:19:39 We're still clean clean on that when when it becomes available.
15:19:44 Right, I and and I can pull the the spreadsheet up if you'd need to see it again.
15:19:48 Commissioners. let me Let me share my screen real quick, or I can just share it.
15:19:58 So is that big enough? Do we need to enlarge it it's tiny
15:20:07 Okay. So the center section in here is where we talked about revenue sharing.
15:20:15 And the estimated these these are my estimates.
15:20:19 2 point, you know about 2.3 million, based on how much was appropriated using the pill model.
15:20:27 And so down here we made some you know. this was a think piece, and and I call these preliminary commitments.
15:20:35 Jeff come expansion, and so on. and this Evans fish to workforce housing.
15:20:45 Even though it was a I think piece and a preliminary commitment.
15:20:48 I think the city rightly. assume that at some point we were going to confirm this and and make it a firm commitment.
15:20:58 Now we're 10 months plus through the fiscal year, 2022 for the Federal Government.
15:21:05 We've not yet heard what the allocation formula is, and we have not yet heard when we're going to see receive the monies.
15:21:12 But 30 September is the end of the fiscal here.
15:21:16 So i'm hoping very soon that we will hear how much we're gonna receive, and when we might receive it.
15:21:24 But even with the this allocation here there's a residual of a 1,000,346.
15:21:32 If if these revenue amounts are anywhere close to being accurate. And so
15:21:37 You know this 500,000 for this worthy proposal from the city?
15:21:41 You know I, personally, I I would support the board making a firm commitment today on it.
15:21:48 Yeah, I don't know if we need a a motion but I would certainly move it to the confirmed funding up up there.
15:21:56 Get the the revenue sharing. Yeah, I think this is exactly the type of project we want to use.
15:22:03 These dollars for we've we've set all along infrastructure move the needle.
15:22:07 Actually you know, build something of something to show 40 but if it's in the ground.
15:22:11 I supported as well and we're unanimous So before we make a motion, let's have a public comment to see if anyone who's joined us today who is interested in commenting on this
project in the city this
15:22:34 workforce housing project from the city if you're interested in making a comment today.
15:22:39 Use the raise hand button at the bottom of the zoom screen. No one's on the phone, so you can for the little yellow hands.
15:22:50 Most of the people I see on the list are staff up there.
15:22:54 We go. Got a hand, Carl, will you bring up for Deborah?
15:22:59 Yep chess accept the promotion and she's coming over.
15:23:04 Good afternoon, Deborah. you're gonna need to unmute I see. Hello, everyone!
15:23:11 This is very exciting to hear about it's it's amazing that we have this opportunity, and it's an unusual opportunity, because there's money that we never could have envisioned
getting before to do this and I think
15:23:24 it's great to apply it to this important need thank you everyone.
15:23:33 Thank you, Deborah. Is there anybody else who would like to make a comment on this project this afternoon?
15:23:38 You can use the raise hand button at the bottom of the zoom screen.
15:23:43 Not seeing any additional hands go up. Okay, i'm gonna close public comment on this agenda item, and i'm just gonna say I'm very supportive of this project, and as a 40 year
resident of Jefferson county
15:24:01 and port towns and high school graduates I couldn't live here.
15:24:06 If I didn't have the family house to live in so you know it's it's not lost on me that even people who live here and are working every day for our community.
15:24:18 It's for me it's by the grace of I mean it's by luck right I have I have a family.
15:24:26 Not much of one small family, but the right one, I guess so.
15:24:32 I would add my support. and so someone wanna make a motion or do we need a motion for this?
15:24:38 I'll make a motion I I move. that we commit $500,000 from the Federal revenue sharing to the so State pat, I mean the Evans vista projects.
15:24:49 Oh, do you wanna qualify just in case there's a you know we don't get that funding or you know what, if it's a drastically reduced amount there's a lot of uncertainty Still.
15:25:02 around those funds. How would you recommend you phrase it i'm open to a friendly a minute?
15:25:13 What if maybe we wanna tie it to, you know.
15:25:15 But if if we get over 2 million dollars in revenue sharing funds that we commit 500,000 or something, just you know I don't.
15:25:22 Wanna I don't wanna end up hitting this against projects that we've made similar soft commitments to our own departments on, but I know they're a little sensitive to that sure
I can I can withdraw
15:25:33 my motion. and I, you know, since this is the this would make a 1 million dollars committed from those revenue sharing dollars right?
15:25:39 So if I said a 1,000,005, that would be a reasonable buffer.
15:25:43 Sure. Yeah. So i'll move it as as long as the Federal Government sharing dollars come in at over 1.5 million dollars that we commit $500,000 to the Evans Vista Project have
a second though all in favor
15:25:58 hi passes unanimously. Great congratulations, folks, and Emma welcome back to Jefferson County.
15:26:11 I was so happy to be back great, to have you back.