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09:01:45 Okay, still says 8, 59 on my Oh, 9 o'clock so good morning.
09:01:56 It's 9 o'clock on Monday. August 20Â s, and I will call this meeting on the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners to order Happy Monday.
09:02:06 Everyone, I just wanna say, you're at the top of the meeting that we will not be having a meeting next week, because it's a fifth Monday, and then the following week we'll be
meeting on Tuesday because the Monday, is
09:02:19 labor day. So couple of odd weeks coming up and i'll try and remember to announce this a couple more times over the course of the morning.
09:02:29 So I can hear myself coming through the door I don't know who's got feel like I can hear myself.
09:02:35 Anyway. so as we do every monday morning we will start with public comments, and we would love to hear from anyone who's joined us this morning, either on zoom or it looks like
everyone's on zoom so
09:02:53 if you're with us on zoom and have something, you would like to discuss with us this morning, or share please use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen, and
so then we'll bring you over for comment.
09:03:12 And to quiet folks today. Anything you either greg or kate you wanna bring to the attention of each other, since we're together again.
09:03:31 Nope. Nope: Nope: Okay, no I we're gonna talk about this later.
09:03:38 But on september 6 we're going back to hybrid meetings. I don't know if we can talk about that later. but that's a significant change that the folks listening might be interested
in Okay, Well, because we have
09:03:57 I will leave public comment open until 9 30 so if anyone who's on zoom with us would like to make a comment.
09:04:04 Please use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen, and we'll bring you over.
09:04:08 But in the meantime, do we wanna review and discuss and maybe approve, consent?
09:04:15 Agenda. Is there anything on the consent agenda that anyone wants to call out?
09:04:21 It's another very full consent. agenda greg I see your hand up? Yes,
09:04:25 It is absolutely a big consent agenda and I can go on down to some of the great things that are in there.
09:04:33 I love seeing them. Yeah. i'll go into that But I was wondering if we could pull number 10, and maybe consider it later about the approval disbursement of the 1590 fund for
oly cap there was
09:04:49 complaint about conflict of interest in me signing off on these contracts, and I would love to invite
09:04:55 Wd. prosecuting attorney, Phil Hunt sector this afternoon, maybe, and talk about this and see Yeah.
09:05:03 Go ahead, Mark. Yeah, I might suggest, Greg, that we do that.
09:05:09 After 1030. We also we have a second holy cap thing on the agenda.
09:05:15 The regular agenda, and that's the least for the casual brown village site.
09:05:19 So maybe prior to acting on the consent agenda item in the lease, Maybe we have the discussion that you would like to have.
09:05:26 Sure Mr. Hunter is ready at that point I just make I wanna make sure that we don't complicated any any contracts.
09:05:33 If they're you know I think there's mostly just smoke there.
09:05:37 But wanna be do I do diligence and be easy, as with all the other projects you know.
09:05:41 Usually it's a unanimous decision so it Wouldn't really impact the decision one way or the other. whether I voted so. i'm happy to talk about that at 1030.
09:05:49 As Mr. Hunter is prepared. yeah I know he's he's gonna be in on the least discussion.
09:05:56 So that that would be a convenient time for for efficiency sake.
09:06:01 For him. it would be better for him to address
09:06:08 You know the conflict question. At At the same time we talked about the consent agenda item in the lease sounds good.
09:06:14 You need some time to do any research, though.
09:06:20 I I don't know we can always if he if he does we can defer file action on that lease until he returns, so we'll have one way or the other at 1030.
09:06:31 Right couple of things. I was hoping to call out on consent.
09:06:35 One the letter of support. so those aren't often on consent.
09:06:43 But that is a grant that is being submitted that this morning. and so what we wanted to get it approved first thing, so that no Dc.
09:06:51 Could get that into them specifically northwest national lab I don't think anything controversial really.
09:06:55 But just unusual to have it here instead of a discussion.
09:06:59 So just say it's a grant that yeah it's playing with that on Dc.
09:07:03 As a subcontractor for some marine energy exploration as a you know, resiliency building.
09:07:11 For our electricity grid So very exciting. That civic Northwest National lab is, you know, doing this global scale work, but wanting to apply it locally.
09:07:23 Other thing is talk about is in item number one.
09:07:29 The resolution regarding general funds to special revenue funds.
09:07:35 Yeah, looking at the policy itself. So not the resolution, but the policy itself.
09:07:45 Stumbling on the the purpose to document. the process and procedure to request general fund financial assistance to the special revenue funds that that seems really clear.
09:07:57 And then it's just simply support the ask and I was a little felt like for a policy that was kind of vague language, and I know when I read policies years after they're written
sometimes I say what on Earth does that
09:08:09 mean and So I wonder if that is value add there if it's just a little, maybe unnecessary, because the first sentence is very clear.
09:08:17 It seems like it could just be the first sentence, the purpose right, and not that second short sentence.
09:08:24 3 words, sentence forward. Sorry, Mark. D You see that the the the purpose statement?
09:08:31 Yeah, the The last short sentence just seems awkward.
09:08:38 We could strike it, and it would not affect the balance of the policy.
09:08:45 And so you could you can pardon I think for clarity sake it might be good to strike it just because it's not entirely clear, and a policy should be as clear.
09:08:59 As possible.
09:09:00 Okay. Well, then, you could approve it. subject to that.
09:09:04 That amendment thanks kate anything else on i'm on consent.
09:09:14 I'm Glad to see you we're going out within rfp for strategic planning.
09:09:19 That's exciting feels feels important feels like something. I remember when my leg was broken last year and I was sitting in my chair at home for these meetings, and we were
trying to have a strategic planning which it
09:09:31 wasn't the year before. even it was kind of having a strategic planning retreat.
09:09:36 And I was like, What is this, so yeah we've had some fits and starts on strategic planning and not this time. we're gonna start it and see it through appreciate that and Then
the big rap prospectus for
09:09:55 Paradise Day road that's a big number but good work by Pop.
09:10:06 Sorry to see that. and the microphone film digitization for the for the Blake to actually make that work possible.
09:10:13 It's a small number, but really critical for the clerk's office to be able to do that their their extra work that they got.
09:10:19 Yeah, yeah, and and I I might say i'm speaking on behalf of Ruth that she went for a grant to digitize
09:10:28 A number of a a very large quantity of other records in her office, and the the competition for that Grant was very steep, and and We were not one of the counties selected for
the grant, but that that's work
09:10:41 that Amanda and Ruth both believe is essential for their office.
09:10:48 And so Ruth would be coming in, asking for additional budget to digitize the balance of her records.
09:10:54 And and I. when that comes to the board, I will support that.
09:10:58 Yeah, Well, Anyone ready to make a motion on consent.
09:11:08 Oh oh, go ahead! I will move that we approve the consent agenda with the minor revision to item number one and pulling item number 10Â s all in favor bye bye passes
09:11:26 unanimously. Okay, we're still way ahead of our time schedule.
09:11:32 Is there anybody on the attendee list who's joined us to make public comment this morning?
09:11:40 We would welcome any comments or questions that anyone has.
09:11:44 You need to use the raise hand button at the bottom of the zoom screen, and then we can bring you over it as a panelist.
09:11:53 Anyone have anything they would like to add, or any questions this morning up.
09:12:00 Okay, I see a hand up i'll bring over Patricia
09:12:14 Good morning! Good morning, Dr. Jones. Good morning, Commissioners Patricia Jones.
09:12:20 Kelsey in Washington. I was able to watch the workshop for
09:12:26 Our county force planning, finally. and I just wanted to express our great appreciation as an organization for the wonderful continuing work.
09:12:39 What a great technical team that malories put together. and It Sounds like a team that's going to be put together to do the report.
09:12:47 I'm just so appreciative and Just wanted to say thanks thank you nice to see you this morning.
09:12:55 Thank you now that more people have joined us maybe I'll just announce again that we will not have a regular Monday meeting next week, cause it's a fifth Monday.
09:13:06 The 20 ninth of august it's actually my mom's birthday, too.
09:13:10 So I have better things to do on Monday than spend them with you here on zoom.
09:13:14 Sorry everybody. and then The following week is Labor Day on Monday, so we will be meeting on Tuesday, the sixth and that meeting will be a hybrid meeting, where your commissioners
will be in the chambers and We will
09:13:33 be also broadcasting on zoom. So just wanted to say that out loud again that more people have joined us.
09:13:42 The public is welcome to join us in person in the chambers, although we're limited to 50% capacity, so be more instead of good.
09:13:48 Fill out, which is like 2020, 24. Okay. okay.
09:13:55 Anybody else wish you to make a comment this morning who's John this on zoom
09:14:05 Okay, not seeing any other hands go up. If anyone decides they want to make a comment.
09:14:08 We are going to leave public comment open until 9. 30?
09:14:14 Why do we want to do a little briefing? Who wants to kick us off?
09:14:21 Oh, I can start Calendar in the right place here.
09:14:26 Busy week last week. i'll give I was with the board of Natural Resources Tour, Commissioner France, and and lots of folks, lots of dnr folks that I met for the first time on
Tuesday and all if you guys kind of
09:14:44 do me. i'll just walk through my agenda really quick, just to kind of talk about the stops the they had on on Tuesday.
09:14:52 We stop at Lake Dawn to look at property line issues that Dnr deals with
09:14:56 That one was very obvious, and that there is what was a well in the middle of a Dnr forest land that had been there for 50 years, you know, on the other side of the road.
09:15:07 You could see encroachment by by fences and garages. just kind of pushing back the Dnr lines.
09:15:14 Some of their issues they deal with went to foothills, Trail Head, which is where they used to have a bunch of recreation over use and parking on the road, and everything and
they build a a parking lot that was
09:15:29 accessible from the row invisible from the road. and Really, I guess positively impacted the the negative use by making it a clean, safe parking places.
09:15:42 That's it, you know, visible to prevent camping though there was a trailer there when we got there.
09:15:49 We we surrounded the trailer and and commissioner Franz was gonna go say, Hey, there's no overnight camping, but they weren't at the trailer.
09:15:58 And then went to an old growth protection site that,
09:16:02 And we saw some of the different old growth Trees and Commissioner Franz and others talked about their really staying with the scientific designation of 1,850 is old growth,
and we we saw some old growth trees.
09:16:14 We stopped at 2, and one of them was a really kind of choked off little section of an area that had old growth trees that were really, you know, 4 inches in diameter and 300
years old.
09:16:27 It was really, it was interesting to see, and so not what you would expect from old growth, so interesting.
09:16:34 Deepening of context looks awesome tomorrow. we'll let have a tad management sites as well and and kind of contrasted those with some of the other old growth.
09:16:47 The smaller outgo spaces don't have the same habitat ecosystem values.
09:16:53 We went up to little little River bridge, which was a bridge they built on us Forest service lands.
09:17:02 And it took almost half the sale price, say our revenue, to build the bridge.
09:17:08 It took years to work with, and Us. Forest Service was not into it until you know. a change in in in staffing, really, I think, is what it did.
09:17:20 And so they were able to access these sites that had previously been helicopter logging sides, and just not practical anymore.
09:17:26 It doesn't stop cost efficient so it was you know, portrayed as a real success, though there was a member of the public.
09:17:34 This was an open public meeting the whole time that it joined.
09:17:37 That was still complaining about the revenue impact on those on those on the the junior beneficiaries.
09:17:45 The trust beneficiaries because they had to pay for the bridge that is on your Us.
09:17:50 Forest Service land, but of course, without it they would not have been able to log in at all, nor the 3 or 4 other units that came subsequently.
09:17:58 So just kind of reveal some of the complexities. Then it went over to Scribe and Peak, where we saw they have a bunch of cell towers up on the hill, and just a butterfly habitat
as Well, so
09:18:09 They're gonna take some of the trees down in response to people complaining about cell tower interference, and also because these particular butterfly for their meeting needs
really ball kind of on vegetated a landscape to
09:18:23 for their meeting process, and that was interesting, and also it striped at peak, and probably a footprint of about 100 square yards.
09:18:32 They were getting revenue of a $130,000 per year.
09:18:36 Mayor Peak and Jefferson County is another one of these land leases.
09:18:40 But more and more, it's good stable significant revenue for some of these land leases for cell towers, and such.
09:18:48 And then we went to Bunker over over Salt Creek, and there we saw areas that are, you know, good party areas and they end up having to close recreational access to them all
summer long, because people just start fires and they were
09:19:02 constantly managing it. So it's one of these recreational areas that do the overuse and misuse they close during the attractive summer months, and then open for the winter months.
09:19:11 And lots of other folks still hiking those trails and everything. You just don't get that The the abuse that can come from easy access with cars.
09:19:21 And that was kind of our our trip on Tuesday, Wednesday.
09:19:26 I went to coma. I saw across the hall there, Mr.
09:19:30 Dean, as we listen to the leadership What was It I don't know it was a leadership leadership council.
09:19:40 Is that the group, Okay, Us Global Leadership Council Yes, So interesting talks definitely, more, much more of the 1,000 foot views than I had the day before.
09:19:52 But interesting tough And then I had dinner with Commissioner Franz that evening.
09:19:59 And very interesting about we talked, you know, sort of our what our goals were.
09:20:07 She talked circles around me, frankly, but really good good conversation.
09:20:14 She's very interested in, I think, helping us with the strategic planning, and kept kind of staring at more toward Well, how much would does Jefferson County need?
09:20:25 And looking at all sides of the coin. It would even, I think, is going to try to come up with a consultant that can some do some of that kind of we could study and and what
How much working lands do we need?
09:20:38 In Jefferson County that kind of analysis so the probably the side of the analysis that we haven't focused on enough.
09:20:42 So I'm sure She's gonna come back with that a proposal there on Thursday we had Gary Gant, the field Director of Washington State.
09:20:52 Hudd out for a tour of some of our housing facilities, so we stopped it to base eye facilities Peter's place, and then past place where they got to say the evolving model that
B side is pursuing with
09:21:05 the tiny shelter villages. We went to Koswell Brown village and showed phase one and the upcoming phase 2, and the work going there, and they just put in power for the septic.
09:21:17 So. that was great. Some good conversations with some residents there and then to Seventh Haven and then to dovehouses shelter as well.
09:21:27 So that's to make 5 Stops I think really impressed Gary and and John from Hud on how effective we've been in in little Jefferson County.
09:21:38 So more more from the House America program. as we go on.
09:21:46 We had the Board of Health Meeting that afternoon, welcomed our 2 new members.
09:21:48 Aj Hawkins and Amanda Pharaoh.
09:21:53 I thought it was Yeah, good I don't think anything you guys are all there.
09:21:57 Nothing to report out on that. We had the Icg special meeting.
09:22:01 You guys were all at as well under the tenth at San Alan.
09:22:05 Really good conversations, and I look forward to that cool, letting, coolated suggestions from the brainstorming experience that we all were at
09:22:16 And then Friday with the Javascript team meeting, there is a broadband symposium sponsored by several players, including Jefferson Pudd, on September. the first in Blynn
09:22:29 I will try to attend, and then have some just a lot of other Oh, when I worked on on Friday, actually I worked for a couple of hours down to pools in school, where they the
the architects that were going to
09:22:46 be the design build team for the bond Funded updates are all volunteering their time.
09:22:53 3 days a week. they're coming out and camping at the quill scene, campground and and making some great outdoor and commercial commercial and technical education spaces.
09:23:05 So came, and you know, contributed my skill Set was, which was breaking down concrete forms. on on Friday.
09:23:12 That was a lot of fun to to work on that, and and really inspiring to see the the service from that whole group.
09:23:19 And then Saturday I was at the All County picnic, super educational.
09:23:24 Still, you know, slightly smaller than it was before with our strange weather.
09:23:28 There was a corn shortage, so not a There was a mix of corn and zucchini that we took home for our in Prep.
09:23:34 Group. but it was still great to see. you know, Jefferson, public health and deem, and the the food freeze drawing program from the Food Bank Gardens and and Jefferson Pud.
09:23:51 They were all all great great boots was a lot of information, so I learned a lot about emergency prep at the All county picnic, and that was my week
09:24:04 Should I jump in also? Had a very busy week. you all on Monday, and then had a port of health.
09:24:15 Get together at the poor house. So a farewell to Long Standing Board of Health members, and welcoming to at least one that were any Board of Health Members and that was nice
to just have some time especially it was public health
09:24:30 folks who have barely seen during the pandemic so nice to be outdoors on a beautiful evening, and a safe, well ventilated place.
09:24:39 The courthouse is like sitting up at a beach.
09:24:44 Yes, see Tuesday. Yeah. And last week it was just nonstop.
09:24:50 So I had a meeting with my and brent and Grannicus the provider that we are getting contact with about potentially bringing on to help with short term mental regulation.
09:25:04 So We've got some questions answered and I identified yet more questions to ask them in hoping to bring back that proposal for you to consider had a meeting with the Democratic
Development Council to discuss the energy Summit that
09:25:18 they are planning also the Pacific Northwest National web.
09:25:21 Looking at a number of options for economic or energy resilience.
09:25:27 That summit will be. We can move the date into November, but similar to the the broadband one getting a lot of attention from around the State.
09:25:36 And really great participation. We are a leader and
09:25:43 A lot of these things as a rural community. So to see.
09:25:51 Transit. Let me we'll do anything we need to report out from that.
09:25:55 Brief call with the account for Native Council. Wednesday.
09:26:02 Met with Hayley Sean congressman, Kilmer's new staff person, regional staff person.
09:26:06 So she'll be our primary contact for local issues, and see!
09:26:12 Seems great glad to have that position filled again. It was. it was hard to not have a someone on speed dial.
09:26:20 Then did the training with public health and equity versus I mean inclusion literacy.
09:26:29 That was a couple of hours twouesday morning, and that is So that's that's going really. Well, it's a kind of an intensive a co work base.
09:26:37 So our group is continuing to get to know each other. Some trust to to do that hard work of looking at how institutions, including our own, still have.
09:26:45 Racism that needs to be talked about, identified and confronted, and within ourselves.
09:26:52 So also joined Congressman Kilmer at the luncheon that great mentions was interesting as a group from around the State.
09:27:02 Pretty powerhouse group from around the State. I was sitting with Secretary Muller.
09:27:07 Done sector transportation. I will say almost everything Kilmer called out was in on the Olympic pencil.
09:27:13 I was that's his district. But again, just you know like we are are ahead of the curve in terms of rural communities addressing climate change, and that was the beam was really
how for an aid and military funding them
09:27:31 to do work in a space of climate change is good for economies.
09:27:37 It's good for stability of populations it's good for the environment.
09:27:44 It was interesting to get the high level view. I really wish they talked more about mitigation.
09:27:49 It was almost entirely adaptation. How do we adapt to climate change?
09:27:53 Instead of saying, Hey, how do we prevent the worst of these disasters from happening by curtailing greenhouse gas emissions?
09:27:58 Now. not a lot talked about there, unfortunately. this, most of the Hippocrinating Council due to that luncheon, and it was a short, short agenda then had a meeting with our
Economic Development Council and the Economic
09:28:15 Development Council on a couple of grants that they're going to be applying for together.
09:28:19 So said our Edc. is having a hard time. Figure out how to have more sustainable funding sources.
09:28:26 Grants are soft money that aren't necessarily the most stabilizing.
09:28:29 But there's one of these 3 year grants and the other is a 5 year grant.
09:28:33 So. I will let you know more about those if those are awarded. But one of one of them is to get a technical assistance person for procurement to to train businesses to be able
to get government contracts
09:28:49 which it is important, as we see a lot of federal infrastructure money coming right now.
09:28:53 We don't have a lot of businesses that are in a good position to compete for those bits and grants.
09:29:02 So excuse me bits and contracts so there's a lot of benefit right now, and getting getting some of that assistance into the know how to secure those. Let's see Is it 9 30 we
go to Dr.
09:29:16 Barry, and then 45 okay, thank you it's Funny that I forget we've been doing that for years.
09:29:26 And there's a had a meeting with our legislative steering committee leadership, and just so you know, Paul, Jul will be taking over as fiscal legislative director for was sec
which should be I
09:29:44 announced tentatively last week, but that has been decided, and
09:29:48 It will not be making other changes, so he is now my main go to it.
09:29:52 Let's set up steering committee and my co-chair is Red Peck Franklin County.
09:29:59 So I do have a some draft legislative agenda issues that maybe this afternoon I can share with you and get your feedback on
09:30:10 So we have a retreat next month, where we will be prioritizing those.
09:30:16 And, as often happens, they're largely outnumbered it terms of votes for supporting certain legislative asks.
09:30:25 But there are a number of kind of compromise tests in there that to get your feedback on sort of health meetings, Spring mentions the intergovernmental collaborative meeting
Thursday evening.
09:30:38 Which I enjoyed and got a lot out of it's it's it's frustrating to hear you know the community.
09:30:49 We we know what the challenges, are. to affordable housing and yet the fixes aren't easy, So it's it's easy to identify the problems, and then it's easy to think oh, government
should just be doing more and
09:31:03 but they're actually really challenging for us to overcome those challenges too, but great to be talking about it as a as a community also had to join the School Board meeting
that evening.
09:31:13 And trying to advance this they're considering a least high schools.
09:31:19 It's during a lease for the child care center so not vote on that.
09:31:26 But Friday morning was cancelled. So, Greg, and what you had that meeting.
09:31:32 Hope to get that residual was only able to attend the first little bit of the regional transportation planning board meeting.
09:31:43 Montice had to attended my in my instead a number of text that conflicts with our Jefferson County covid coordination meeting, and we discussed there the new twelfth temporary
covid policy which will
09:31:54 be discussing later. today. Saturday went to the James Town healing campus opening, which is really really beautiful.
09:32:05 Kind of a campus, and beautiful events barely made it in time to say a couple quick hills at the All County picnic.
09:32:17 But trying to squeeze in too much on a summer weekend with lots of traffic, so took longer to get back to the alternative picnic, and just barely had a quick flow.
09:32:29 And then like step in at the uptown fair as well.
09:32:34 So lots what's? going on. and visit yesterday with the Mayor of Los Angeles interesting to hear the stuff they're struggling with very similar, of course.
09:32:44 So my busy week great yeah great I forgot one thing last Monday after the after we're all together, I went out to the Northwood Canal Chamber.
09:32:57 I think I've been talking about efforts to merge with the Jefferson County Chamber.
09:33:01 Well, we have a little bit of push back, and the most well attended chamber meeting in a North could Canal chamber history.
09:33:11 I believe, and voted to keep going as northward canal chamber.
09:33:16 So we're not merging. the chambers and our electing, you know, new officers and this come in September meeting, and kind of keep going.
09:33:25 It is a separate chamber for the time being. Okay, Not surprised, really.
09:33:32 Just independent spirits. let's see my week last week. was about with you guys on Monday, of course. and then also on Monday at noon, the new an hour did the pre-election certification
meeting with
09:33:52 our elections. Manager Quin growl and number of other staff from the auditors office, and Phil Hunsucker and Roseanne.
09:34:03 And that's always an interesting process to review the all the signatures that don't match the voter file and
09:34:12 I think we were able to accept 3 of the signatures that were initially disqualified.
09:34:20 But it wasn't enough to change any results but it made me think i'm here as it could be
09:34:27 So that was interesting. And then, Monday evening also, I attended the Board of Health.
09:34:33 Farewell for 2 of our long Standing Board of Health members, and just wanna give a shout out to Sheila Westman, who is the longest serving Board of Health Member and State History.
09:34:47 I believe, and She definitely was feeling that this shift in her life
09:34:56 And it was nice to recognize that with her tuesday we had a special L tech meeting to review the schedule for this year's Ltte grant considerations, and the amount will be granting
it looks like we'll be giving 800
09:35:11 $1,000, and L. tech grants again this year, as we did last year, due to historic hotel motel revenues.
09:35:19 Which is great news, and so that Rfp. will go out an early September.
09:35:30 So let's see and then couple of beatings around forestry on Tuesday.
09:35:40 And that first one in the morning, and then did the election sort ofification. So you do the pre-election where you review, view all the signatures, and then the next day you
actually certify the election and here the
09:35:52 process that the team goes through upstairs to certify or to do the election, and it's very it's very tight.
09:36:01 When is right, a tight ship up there, so everyone should feel secure in their elections locally.
09:36:08 It was amazing. The number of steps they go through to verify and certify, and keep things secure.
09:36:15 Then we had a transit board on Tuesday afternoon, and then Mark and I met with Mallory, our our county forestry consultants to talk about updates to her contract, and specifically
to get at the need to do
09:36:33 s strategic review of county and State Dnr State Forest Trust transfer lands in Jefferson County. and she's going to work with her advisors and Catherine Copis.
09:36:47 An ecologist, to review all of the stand.
09:36:54 September in East Jefferson county and we'll have a clear sense of where we're at with every every piece of ground that we might be considering in the next as long as we're
commissioners and
09:37:12 Then I had a meeting at Finn River Farm with some farmers and farmland advocates to talk about the habitat for humanity.
09:37:22 Mason Street project habitats going to go out and start doing meetings with potential pockets of the community that might be interested in helping to to envision what the masonry
project in Port Hadlock is gonna look like cause
09:37:39 they're not, imagining that they're gonna build all of the units that will be there.
09:37:50 They're protecting 120 units and I think habitat is said that they maybe wouldn't do a third of those.
09:37:52 So they're looking for agencies and organizations that might partner to do the other 80 units there.
09:37:56 Wednesday I was literally all day, starting at 6 30 in the morning, home at 7 30 at night, with the Board of Natural Resources out in Cloud County, and on my day it was a very
different focus than on Commissioner
09:38:11 Brethren's day. ours. was really focused on the Olympic experimental state forest, which I had actually never had a chance to go to personally.
09:38:20 So that was fun, and met a lot of the Dnr region staff.
09:38:23 Some great presentations on their silver culture and timber sales and then also bridges.
09:38:30 I mean that's a big issue with forest. practices is having to get across all the streams and and rivers with big, heavy log trucks and heavy loads.
09:38:39 So we had a pretty in-depth presentation. on different kinds of bridges, and an old cedar log stringer bridge, which those are those things are amazing.
09:38:49 They've been in in the ground some of them for a 100 years, and I know most people have probably heard talk of some of the timber being stolen from those bridges in the last
year.
09:39:01 They're also doing spruce stringer bridges, and then these moveable steel bridges, which are cool because they can be temporarily put over a smaller stream and then use that
another site so they're
09:39:13 They're more flexible option and then We later the afternoon, toward a research project that the University of Washington it's been doing a long term research project out on
the Olympic experimental forest They call it the T
09:39:29 3 research project site, and there's their brother whole staff at and they talked about their research and the timber harvest.
09:39:37 They're gonna do, and how they're gonna use those as kind of control sites for research projects to understand how different treat forest treatments affect the land and water
the water temperature and what some restoration recommendations might
09:39:57 be coming out of those research projects. So spend the entire day in the van with Commissioner Franz, which was great.
09:40:05 It was good to get to know her better and meet some of her staff.
09:40:10 And yeah, and she was the reason she cancelled our meetings on Friday is she was sending her youngest son off to college, Kate, and that was the last day she had to spend with
him.
09:40:19 So I I kind of said, you gotta do that stuff so let's see.
09:40:25 So that was all day. Wednesday and Thursday, at a meeting with the Dc.
09:40:31 On the creative entrepreneurship project and some promotion, promotion.
09:40:36 They're gonna do some kind of build some energy around creative entrepreneurship and capture some of the stories of entrepreneurs in our community, and try to build some energy
around makers and our
09:40:51 community over the next year. So that's a project they're doing in collaboration with the community foundation, and they were just picking my brain for different buckets of
makers in our community.
09:41:02 So I brainstormed with them everything from enclume who's been around for a long time making pat racks for kitchens and other kitchen amenities, and house amenities would would
wood
09:41:16 racks, and then told them about some friends about mine who make handblow glasses, and they have summer house in downtown Port Townsend.
09:41:25 But you know there's people who make little tiny makers in our community who make some really beautiful things.
09:41:30 So we talked about the full spectrum of makers in the community.
09:41:36 Had another meeting with trust line. transfer advocates and talked about a series of outreach events we're gonna do at the end of September.
09:41:48 I don't think I'm gonna be involved in those like I was in the day.
09:41:51 Bob tour earlier. The spring then did check in for agenda, planning with Mark word of health meeting.
09:42:01 That afternoon Icg meeting that evening. and then Friday.
09:42:07 I took some time to prepare for my crazy weekend and then I did do a have a 2Â h meeting with Dnr Encumbered Lands working group, which has been an interesting another interesting
forest land management.
09:42:20 Conversation that i've been pulled into as a volunteer on a committee.
09:42:24 So and then had a private event on saturday. and spent all day again at the Ballard Farmers market with Donna Roxanne, and we are setting records left and right there.
09:42:38 So it's been It's been a fun adventure of every single day in August, and i'm tired again today.
09:42:46 So that was last week. Mark, what about you? We have a few minutes.
09:42:50 Do you have anything you want to call out from last week?
09:42:54 Yeah, I won't duplicate the the meetings where I was with the one or more board members.
09:43:01 But I had a very good senior management team on on Tuesday.
09:43:05 Some good news on the hiring front. I think you might have seen
09:43:13 The email from Monty about collect cost elect joining our staff that's a great hire and Willie has hired a woman named Anna Pierceki to be his volunteer coordinator and that
title is a
09:43:25 bit misleading because she's really going to be the deputy.
09:43:29 She's gonna help him write up hazard mitigation plans and all kinds of things above and beyond coordinating volunteers.
09:43:38 So she's moving up from texas has a really good resume, and i'm excited for Willie and for the county.
09:43:46 Had a really good at meeting with with with John and Aaron Kevin Couldn't make it, and then a good meeting with Mallory.
09:43:56 Then on Wednesday I had a a very good meeting with
09:44:01 Andy Pernsteiner, Jen Moore, and Matt Court, on Courthouse security.
09:44:05 Some very promising developments there regarding handling courthouse security within house resources.
09:44:12 And now the Joe knows back we'll continue that conversation. with him, and I hope to have a workshop with the board to let you know how that is evolving and maturing.
09:44:23 I think you might like what you you'll hear during the next workshop.
09:44:29 And then a very good meeting with Brent. Those are always very, very productive, and and very heavy on content, as you might imagine.
09:44:39 And then you know a couple of meetings and I'm met with Heidi on agenda, and then the Igc.
09:44:46 And last week was pretty productive from a writing point of view.
09:44:49 I I put together the Rp. for strategic planning services, and I also have A.
09:44:54 An Rfq. to solicit consultants to help the county develop community wildfire protection plans.
09:45:00 I I staffed that with Brent and with Heidi, and I sent it off to Chief Mccarn, who was the chief of chiefs right now.
09:45:10 And hopefully he'll staff it with brett Brett Black, and the other chiefs, and we can submit that to the Mr.
09:45:17 Roster list and hopefully if it goes over a 100,000.
09:45:23 I'll have to pull it back and do an rfp based on county code.
09:45:27 But i'm hoping that we can come in just under that 100,000
09:45:30 And Chris, with someone not to help develop those much needed plans So that's it.
09:45:38 Wrapped up in 2Â min. that's great thanks mark I would just say, since i'll close public comments, since no one's raised their hand, and just say in reading all the public comments
we did receive quite a few public comments
09:45:53 last week, and writing form, and there's been this the clear cutting rumors and this timber cut 42 acres out chemical area, and I dug into it a little bit, and you know one
thing I just want to say out
09:46:08 loud. here is that The The county does not process for us.
09:46:14 Practice application is, the State does. But I did search for I found I tracked down the address, and I did search for a forest practice application for the parcel that a number
of people brought to, to, our attention and to my attention, and there
09:46:31 is no forest practice application currently So I don't know what those rumors are about.
09:46:38 But just wanna say again that this it's the state that and anybody can search for us.
09:46:45 Practice applications. Dnr. has a portal where you can go and put the parcel number in and search for port.
09:46:51 Forest practice applications, and I guess I should wait my hand and check my clock.
09:46:58 It's 9 45 and I see Dr.
09:47:00 Barry's in the room with us so good morning Dr.
09:47:05 Barry, and good morning, Willie will be excited to hear about a report from the All county picnic.
09:47:10 But first let's hear from Dr. barry good morning I hate to delay the report of the all county picnic, so i'm trying to be efficient
09:47:21 So there's generally some good news on the covid front nationally.
09:47:25 Cases are down 19% in the last 2 weeks. Hospitalizations are also down training at the national level.
09:47:31 So done, 6% and deaths are finally turning down. so 7% in the last 2 weeks, with 460 Americans dying a day, which is, of course, still far too many.
09:47:42 But it is at least down from where we were last week in Washington.
09:47:45 State cases are actually bending, trending down a little fast. 30% down in the last 2 weeks, and hospitalizations are down 20%.
09:47:55 Deaths are are showing a small decrease similar to the national level in Jefferson County.
09:48:00 Our cases are largely flat. The total number of cases diagnosed so far in this pandemic has been 5,521.
09:48:07 That puts our K 3 at 460, three per 100,000, with a 13% positivity rate, which is slightly down from last week.
09:48:15 That leaves us at a case entertainment rate of still around 40%.
09:48:21 Our sewer measurements for covid 19 is also down by about 15%, and the last week, and thankfully 2 of those folks who were hospitalized last week have been discharged There's
only one person in the hospital for
09:48:34 Covid 19 at this point We've had no new deaths in Jefferson County.
09:48:37 So We've, lost 30 of our citizens to covid 19 in neighboring Clown County, 15,280.
09:48:45 3 cases of covid 19 have been diagnosed that puts Clown County's case threat at 395 for a 100,000 with a 12% positivity over clown gets less home tests reported than Jefferson
county does So the
09:48:56 case entertainment rate, there is about 30%. We do have only one person hospitalized in Clleam County for a total of 430.
09:49:05 One hospitalizations, and unfortunately we have 2 new deaths to report this week up to a total of 120.
09:49:14 1. One was a person in their seventies, and they were unvaccinated.
09:49:17 One was a person in their eighties who was vaccinated, and he received one booster, but not the second and they both had multiple underlying conditions. and I think, unfortunately,
that is a critical. reminder The covid 19 can Still, be
09:49:29 very dangerous, and especially if you're over 65 it's really important to have move forward and get your second booster.
09:49:36 At this point numbers are still high, but improving, which is hopeful.
09:49:41 The most important thing any of us can do to protect ourselves. and others is to say, up to date in our vaccines, and then also to wear high quality masks when we're indoors
around others.
09:49:50 Of course, any time we can move activities outside or improve indoor ventilation that's going to reduce transmission of Covid 19 as well. The biggest news on the Covid 19 front
is We have heard that the
09:50:01 omicron specific boosters are actually going to come quite a bit earlier than we originally thought. We were originally anticipating.
09:50:07 Mid October for the launch of the covid of the Omocrone specific boosters.
09:50:13 But likely we're going to see those as soon as mid September.
09:50:16 We will likely run into the challenge that we've seen before where the demand outstrip supply initially, because this is a new type of booster for us, and so we will be prioritizing
vaccination to those at highest risk
09:50:27 particularly. This is all assuming that everything gets approved we're just planning ahead for that with not moved through that approval process yet, and we don't.
09:50:38 Have the specific dates in month land out yet depends on approval, and it depends on how much vaccine is available upfront and how much of it comes to us here in Jefferson County.
09:50:49 But we're roughly planning on Mid-september, and we'll be working with our deem colleagues as well as their health care colleagues for how to plan to rule that out because we
09:50:57 anticipate demand for that will be high. Most likely it will be recommended for everyone 18, and up the Omah Crown specific booster is a little bit different than the boosters
that have come before in that it has the
09:51:08 omnipotent lineages in it, and the hope is that that will provide us greater protection against symptomatic disease overall.
09:51:17 Right now most of the boosters are really providing protection against severe disease, and we haven't been able to maintain good protection against any covid 19 issue and the
hope is that these Omicron specific boosters
09:51:29 will allow more of that, but more data, more information on that to come.
09:51:34 As we get close a little bit of an update on the Mpv front as well.
09:51:40 At this point in Washington State we have diagnosed 334 cases of Mpv.
09:51:45 Nationally We've diagnosed 14,115.
09:51:51 We have no cases of Mpv. yet diagnosed in Jefferson County.
09:51:54 But this weekend we did have our first case of Mpv.
09:51:56 Diagnosed in Clown County was diagnosed in a young man interestingly, a heterosexual a young man, and we don't think he contracted it through. We actually think he picked it
up at a party and so it is
09:52:07 a critical reminder. The Mtv. can be spread by any prolonged scanner skin concept right now we're seeing most spread through sectional activity.
09:52:16 But you can also get it through any other prolonged skin to skin contact, or and one of the other occasions where we see that happen is dance party, which we think is more likely
how this young gentleman copy infection we are grateful.
09:52:30 To him and his family for getting tested right away, and for isolating.
09:52:33 Well. we were able to complete his contact tracing over the weekend and vaccinate his close contacts.
09:52:40 He's doing quite well and should recover and do do just fine.
09:52:44 We know that this virus is just unfortunately affecting the gay community, but it can affect anyone.
09:52:49 It's just spread through prolonged skin the skin contact. So if you have an atpical rash any rash, let's say typical for you particularly a painful one.
09:52:59 Please do get tested right away, as this young man did, so that we can get you the treatment you need and get in contact with the people you sent around to reduce any further
spread of the infection.
09:53:10 So I want to acknowledge this did a great job as that.
09:53:13 His family in protecting himself in his community. We do have the genius vaccine available in Clown County right now for anyone who is in a high risk group which at this point
is still primarily Men who have sex with men gay or bisexual men or
09:53:29 transgender individuals who have sex with men who have had multiple partners in the last 3 months, or have had an spi in the last year.
09:53:39 We unfortunately don't have enough vaccine available to vaccinate the general community at this point, and because this is disproportionately affecting the gay community we
are still prioritizing our vaccines. there.
09:53:49 However, if you have known contact with someone who has had Mpv.
09:53:54 You qualify for a vaccine right Now, so regardless of where you fall in a risk category.
09:54:00 If you know that you've been in contact with someone who had Mpv.
09:54:03 If you friend calls you and says, Hey, by the way, we played video games over the weekend, and it turns out I had Mpv.
09:54:09 We can vaccinate you for that. So give us a call at the Health Department, and we can transfer vaccine between Jefferson and Clon County.
09:54:16 So we can. Evac needed very quickly. as needed if you know that you've been explained similarly.
09:54:23 If you have a strange rest to say typical for you, be sure to get tested right away.
09:54:28 We will find out about that at the health department. we can help you get treatment and vaccine today, and so with that I'm happy to take any questions from our Commissioners
09:54:42 Peter Greg any questions. So today, Thank you. alright.
09:54:51 So yeah, So i'll go ahead and move into the kptz questions.
09:54:57 We didn't have a ton today, though many of them were somewhat detailed once that we got in this week.
09:55:02 So the first one was actually about the omicron specific booster.
09:55:08 And particularly this question about how it will work. So the reason why the omicron boosters are going to be moving forward is to try to add that additional protection against
symptomatic disease and we are hopeful that that will last
09:55:21 longer one of the biggest. The biggest reason why you see, the protection against symptomatic disease states from the prior vaccines is not actually anything related to vaccines,
but related to the virus itself.
09:55:36 And so, unfortunately, we've seen the virus mutate in major ways.
09:55:41 After a major ways in the time since we've had vaccines. So all of the vaccines we're getting right now are actually targeted towards the original lineage of Kovat 19 from way
back in march the twentieth 20
09:55:52 to, and they haven't really been updated since then and so this would be the first vaccine to come out.
09:55:59 That actually is focused on the lineages that are circulating.
09:56:02 Now. and so we're hopeful that that will provide longer protection against symptomatic disease.
09:56:07 That's why we would roll out a booster to everyone 18 and up.
09:56:11 But of course we will have to monitor that to see how long that lasts, and it will depend on how the vaccine dates from another question was also really kind of talking about
boosters and particularly protection for people, 55
09:56:27 and older the questioner shared, and our article from a blog poster called your local epidemiologist.
09:56:36 She's great she does a good job of kind of breaking down the Kovat 19 information in a way that's more accessible to to general folks.
09:56:44 And particularly this paper that they shared, was about the different kinds of immunity that you have in your body.
09:56:48 So we talk a lot about antibodies. antibodies are really good at protecting against symptomatic disease, but they're one of the first things the virus can figure out how to
get around it.
09:56:58 What you do have also in your body. is cellular mediated immunity. And that's what protects you against severe disease, hospital civilization, and death. and that's what's still
holding strong for folks who are vaccinated
09:57:09 even months, years after you originally got your vaccine.
09:57:14 So this person post people who are over 65 tend to have less neutralizing activity from the vaccine.
09:57:24 It doesn't make sense to kind of, go get some chronic low, level exposure to COVID-19 in particular, by going into stores without a mask on, and I would say there is likely
some protection from very low
09:57:35 level exposure to covid 19 but the challenge is How do you figure out what is low enough amount of exposure, and how you make sure it's not so much that you're going to get
Kovat 19 get sick go
09:57:47 to someone else and potentially get severely ill especially if over 65. And that's just really hard to mediate store environment.
09:57:54 And so I wouldn't recommend going in unmatched one thing you could do is potentially switch to a surgical map.
09:58:01 So we have seen that the amount of virus that you were exposed to
09:58:08 It does vary depending on how what kind of mask you're wearing, and so potentially, if you're thinking about going unmassed, you could try transitioning to a surgical mass to
kind of see scal back your
09:58:16 protection. It depends a lot on what your underlying health conditions are like.
09:58:22 So myself. If you see me around Jefferson county actually I am often in a surgical manner, because i'm young, i'm healthy, I boosted, and that is adequate to protect from giving
covid to anyone
09:58:34 else, and it provides significant protection in me it doesn't provide the amount of protection that an end 95 does.
09:58:42 But from i'm in interactions going to the grocery store things like that, a surgical mask is enough, and I find it very comfortable.
09:58:46 So that's what I tend to use, however, if you see me in a clinical setting, where i'm likely to get much larger scale exposure.
09:58:52 You'll see me in a can 95 or or if I was on a plane.
09:58:59 You'd see me in a k in 95 or higher. so I adjust my math based on the setting that i'm in.
09:59:02 So for most grocery stores we're just nasa, not very prolonged exposure like a bus or a plane or a train.
09:59:08 You want to scale up the coverage that you have or certainly if you're very high.
09:59:12 Risk yourself if you're getting cancer treatment. If you were 85 and have multiple underlying conditions.
09:59:19 I would wear a higher quality, while there's some potential theoretical benefits to chronic Lodos exposure to Covid 19.
09:59:26 It's just really hard to titrate in the community and I wouldn't recommend going on mass in community settings. couple other good questions that we got in One other one was
asking about let's see all of these guys one person was asking about
09:59:44 Mpv. So if the smallpox vaccine received as a child, provides any protection against Npv.
09:59:51 And it does. we are seeing good crossover between the smallpox, vaccine and genios, which is the Mpv.
09:59:58 Vaccine. However, we don't know how much each is maintaining, so it likely is providing you some protection.
10:00:05 But if you are in an eligible group, did you get genius?
10:00:08 You should also get that on top of that The last time we did widespread vaccination of the public for smallpox was 1971.
10:00:16 So, or actually 1972. but we start vaccinating at age one.
10:00:21 So if you were before born, 1,971 and earlier, you were likely vaccinated against smallpox, you likely do have some protection. But if you qualify for Virginia, get that to
and last question, was from someone who
10:00:34 noticed a change in the Cdc website. And this has been a challenge.
10:00:39 I should acknowledge for those of us who maintain public health websites, because there's so much misinformation out there, and there's so much distrust and concern anytime
the websites, get people
10:00:54 out, and particularly there's a subset of the public. who gets nervous that something has been changed or something has been hidden, and that's what this questioner was talking
about.
10:01:03 Apparently there was an update to the the website at the Cdc.
10:01:07 That discusses Mrna vaccines. And this person was wondering whether or not that means that our information on Mrna vaccine system changed, and particularly around how long they
stay in your body and it has not the So what we know about the
10:01:22 Mrna Vaccine, so that's the moderna or the Pfizer vaccine.
10:01:27 They deliver Mrna to your body your body's own systems. Turn that into protein that looks like the spike protein from Covid 19 out of your body within a matter of hours to a
few days what the update
10:01:44 that happened for the website was, they said, After that protein piece is made, your body breaks down.
10:01:49 The Mrna, and removes it as lace they didn't specify that it was a few days because actually sometimes it's as short as a few hours.
10:01:58 So in a goal to make it as clear as possible, and make these communications a little bit more simple.
10:02:04 There was. That was just an update to the way
10:02:09 They don't stay in your body they leave your body with a Few the spike protein that your body makes actually leaves. that gets cleared out of your body again within a few weeks.
10:02:19 The only thing that remains is that your immune system is now primed So with that i'm happy to take any other questions that were spurred by that.
10:02:29 Otherwise I can pass it to will.
10:02:33 Yes, Kate has one side
10:02:39 So with the the Cdc. guidance changing
10:02:44 I believe we talked about on Friday that public health is going to be updating the flow charts which helps folks who might have been exposed, and you know, figuring out exactly
what to do.
10:02:53 So. i'm not sure if you have an update on whether that's ready to go today, But if not just want the public to know that's coming really soon.
10:02:59 And that reflects the new guidance. So anything else you want to add to that would be helpful.
10:03:06 Yes, so the public, how slow charts that you follow.
10:03:08 If you were either diagnosed with or exposed to, Covid.
10:03:11 19 will be updated this week. I don't know if it's going to be ready to go live today, but it should be very
10:03:19 The main change. There is the change away from recommending quarantine for anyone, because there's such widespread transmission of Covid 19 going on quarantine doesn't really
benefit the public the way that it used to and it's a
10:03:30 significant hardship for people. and so we want to scale back anything that we don't absolutely need and keep the thing, And so the main change there is that if you know you've
been exposed to cooking 19 the only recommendation there is that you wear
10:03:44 a mask when you're around others for at least 10 days, the pay attention to your body.
10:03:48 Check to see if you're developing symptoms and as soon as you develop symptoms.
10:03:51 If you do test for kovat 19 if you don't develop any symptoms at all, Go ahead and test by day 5 to make sure that you're not developing and as we've discussed before.
10:04:03 If you were sick, Please stay home to every extent possible and if you're sick for more than 24Â h, and you test the negative the first day test, because sometimes it can take
a while for your body to see that rise, in viral load that would
10:04:15 actually test cost
10:04:21 Any other questions. Dr. Barry. any more questions anyone.
10:04:25 I was just gonna I was just gonna say in transition to Willie.
10:04:31 I drink it out of my 4 H. Mic. Here I did want to give a shout out to Sarah Peterson, our new 4 h coordinator for winning the Commissioners awarded the county fair.
10:04:40 I mean she was a She stepped into being the new 4 H Coordinator, and had no experience, and now she has won the award for the best building at the fair.
10:04:47 So Anyway, I just wanted to say that while there were people with us congratulations, Sarah.
10:04:53 If you're out there. Okay, Willie give us the update on the on the picnic what happened how much one was distributed and zucchini I hear i'm gonna delay the the county picnic
10:05:04 update just a few seconds further. Now Everyone's chopping at the bit just to address as Dr.
10:05:08 Barry was Mccon specific booster. just wanted to note that we started working with a public health last week.
10:05:16 We have our eye on that situation. no, we we have our pharmacies.
10:05:21 We have the office, Jefferson Health area, etc., but we do expect if given this adequate supply.
10:05:30 We do expect a pretty significant demand for this omocron specific booster that we are starting to do some planning about potentially bringing back our road show.
10:05:39 So to speak, to ensure that we are able to distribute that vaccine to the community as basically as quickly and as equitably as possible.
10:05:48 So nothing is solidified yet. we're still not a 100% sure what the supply and the timing of that supply will look like.
10:05:54 But we're i'm getting ready to bring back mass vaccination clinics.
10:05:59 If needed, so we'll be closely working with public health. We've had a little bit of a law the chance to kind of rest and reset has been nice especially for our volunteer core.
10:06:08 But we're ready to pull the trigger on that again if and when needed.
10:06:11 So we'll be working with them to keep an eye on the timing the supply and the capabilities of some of our partners to see if that's going to be a need other than that moment
everyone's been
10:06:21 waiting for the All county picnic overall a a success.
10:06:27 It looked a lot different than it had looked in years past.
10:06:31 Here her down significantly. just a handful of key.
10:06:38 Partners and vendors were there to engage with folks.
10:06:40 We did distribute 500 bags as you mentioned corn i'm in zucchini, and actually a pretty good example of what the all county picked out and kind of the message that we're preaching
due
10:06:51 to some less than ideal weather for corn earlier this year.
10:06:58 Our vendors weren't able to to meet order in time for the picnic, so we had far less born than we had folks signed up to receive it.
10:07:07 We pivoted a little bit i'm showed some resiliency in the face of some adversity set of porn.
10:07:14 We gave away some of our go bags with the horn and Zucchini.
10:07:17 The folks still have some items to grill up at their picnics.
10:07:20 The next day. So we think all of our our neighborhood organizers who came and fat porn, and then held a picnic.
10:07:26 Next day. I thank them for their flexibility, on thanks to our vendors for their flexibility as well, and a small example, but a good one of flexibility in the face of a little
bit of adversity a good example of some
10:07:39 of the supply chain issues. Folks have been experiencing recently I'm as well as just issues with the weather all on top of it.
10:07:47 Picnic looked much different than in years past.
10:07:49 We have some excellent presentations from Kptz and a Roh Elizabeth, one of our neighborhood leaders.
10:07:59 I'm down in will scene I gave a presentation as did Sheriff don't know so he'd shout out to everyone who was able to show up and either attended a presentation or picked up
corn and held
10:08:11 a picnic. The following day we had a little over 20 neighborhoods.
10:08:16 Hold picnics where they've got to know one another. built some resiliency at that neighborhood, so i'm very excited for how it turned out. and just a little under 365
10:08:27 days until our next county. Thanks, Willie any emerging questions Allison, Do you have one? I just plan to update I heard from Bonnie that apparently the new flow sheet is already
live on our website.
10:08:42 So. it's they They work quickly at the department of public health Awesome?
10:08:48 Thank you, really. i'm just bummed I missed a chance to offload a bunch of zucchini from my garden.
10:08:55 Had I known, and i would have come prepared that that's some of the the feedback we got from a number of folks was that they were excited about the corn, and say hadn't had
that yet this season, but they had plenty of
10:09:06 zucchini from their own garden so wasn't an ideal choice, but that's kind of the definition of resiliency. You know you're not gonna always get what you want But we make do
with it the best
10:09:16 way we can get what you need right exactly. Yep. Thanks.
10:09:20 You guys. Well, we are done early today. That leaves Kp.
10:09:28 Oh, Kate, this may be worth repeating that we are not next Monday, and instead, I will be here on Tuesday the sixth, because of the Liberty weekend.
10:09:38 So that gives you guys some free time and I should say i'm going to talk to I won't actually be able to be here to say the 6, because i'm in clinics I think we fly in solo after
labor
10:09:52 day. Okay, we'll make plans accordingly okay so it is 1010.
10:10:04 We're giving kptz back 20Â min of of air time it's gonna be a bob Marley Marathon today on Kptz.
10:10:14 I wonder if they actually ever play Bob Marley I don't even know that.
10:10:18 So, anyway, appreciate everyone on the airwaves, and thank you for being here with us today, and I guess we will.
10:10:25 Do we wanna take a break until we have our first timed agenda item is at 10.
10:10:32 30. Does anyone have anything else for the good order now? or do we want to take a break and get caught up on the backlog of tasks?
10:10:40 Okay. I was wondering if we're trying to do the proclamation at a certain time.
10:10:46 Does that need to be at after 1030 Yeah, I don't think so, do we?
10:10:53 Wanna do that now? Yeah. I was i'm sorry I was muted.
10:10:59 Yeah, Sarah was gonna join. so doesn't look like she's on.
10:11:01 I can get a hold of her, though. Yeah, I can just open my door and ask her to join
10:11:46 Yeah.
10:17:38 How is back to order, and brings sarah over I think she's gonna
10:17:56 And we are going to proclaim this week as Jefferson County Employee Recognition week.
10:18:06 We We could not do the work of the county without every single employee that we have, and there are also a number of vacancies.
10:18:14 So if anyone out there listening is looking for a job, please make your first stop.
10:18:19 The Jefferson County website. it's a great place to be with a wonderful group of people, and so who is going to introduce this proclamation.
10:18:29 Well, I i'd like to say, that organizations such as ours, cannot succeed without the folks who work hard day to day to provide the services to our citizens, and in a happy,
and cheerful manner,
10:18:48 The team work that we see here. the leadership that we have I I think it's it's outstanding, and i'm proud to be a member of this organization because of the great.
10:19:00 Employees we have, and and how much our leadership appreciates those employees.
10:19:05 So i'm i'm really happy that we don't just celebrate with the proclamation, but that we celebrate all week long with bagel one a bagel day and the employee picnic on
10:19:16 Thursday, and then each office has a day to celebrate their employees, and tomorrow we're gonna we're gonna have hot dogs downtown.
10:19:26 And anyway, it's just an uplifting thing and I really enjoy it So, sarah your ball
10:19:36 Thanks, Mark. Good morning, everybody. Hi! hi! So I am proud to stand here also.
10:19:47 In recognizing all of the employees that work for Jefferson County, and do that with respect and professionalism.
10:19:57 And kindness, and what what they bring to our community, and how they affected, I I think, is the measurable.
10:20:06 So this is employee appreciation, appreciation, week. and so would you like me to read the proclamation.
10:20:15 We I think we'll read the pack proclamation okay.
10:20:21 So just in terms of a little more orientation.
10:20:24 I was just looking at. You may have received that list of folks who are celebrating their 5 years, 1015 years, 30 years
10:20:34 Up service, and we'll be recognizing it Then also at the picnic on Thursday. and I I just added up these total, and I got to more than 600 years.
10:20:45 So it's pretty amazing. So I just wanna thank everyone, too, for your support of our employees, especially over the last 2 years of Covid and the the challenges that that that
has brought to all of us as well so thank you
10:21:05 thanks. Sarah, who wants to kick off the reading of the proclamation, got to great proclamation, whereas Jefferson County is entrusted by its citizens to deliver an array of
community services aimed at protecting
10:21:23 the community's health and safety enhancing the welfare of the community now and for future generations, and whereas the county depends on the personal integrity and professionalism
of his public servants to carry out this responsible and
10:21:38 whereas the public employees of Jefferson County continue to just display efficiency, accuracy, innovation, friendly, and a genuine care of the public trust in their approach
to serving the community.
10:21:52 Now, therefore, the Board of Commissioners, Jefferson County wish to express their appreciation of the services provided to the public by Jefferson County employees, by proclaiming
the week of August 20Â s 2,022 as Jefferson county
10:22:05 employee recognition week. Be it further proclaim that the Board of Commissioners urge all citizens to join them in recognizing county employees for their efforts.
10:22:16 Sign this 20Â s day of august 2020 i'm happy to move, to approve the proclamation second, all in favor.
10:22:25 Hi none opposed passes unanimously and i'd love to just call out. We had 4 folks are getting their 30 year pans and 7 getting their 25 year pins.
10:22:37 I mean continuity of services is you know those folks are the institutional knowledge that that you know are the heartbeat of so many of our departments.
10:22:46 It's great to have folks with the account for that one really inspiring, and it always surprises me how much people don't realize what all the county does.
10:22:57 So there's so many departments in our county from roads to solid waste to parks and realizing that the things that we often, as citizens of this community take for granted are
the things that are team is working
10:23:14 very diligently to keep consistently maintained for everybody.
10:23:19 Visitors and residents alike and I think it's just kind of we're we're blessed to have such a great team, and somebody recently was at one couple of meetings ago.
10:23:31 Said that we're able to keep folks working here in the county, cause we have built a good team spirit, and I I, for one, feel that when I come into the courthouse, so i'm appreciative
of everyone who works for the
10:23:45 county. Yeah, i'm i'm in my 20Â s year of service with county government and
10:23:52 I I have to admit. when I started with county government in January of 2,001 I had absolutely no idea what counties did, and over the years I've developed a tremendous appreciation.
10:24:06 I mean the rubber meets the road here with local government and
10:24:10 The country could not function without it. and so i'm proud to be part of county government, and especially this county, and where that river meets those roads.
10:24:20 They're well chip sealed as Well, yeah but jump don't drive on them right after the rocks laid down. I guess I got stuck on one of those this summer this last summer.
10:24:30 Yeah, it's no fun. yeah kate did you have some mad.
10:24:34 Yeah, I just wanna acknowledge the the great work that Sarah is doing.
10:24:42 For you a year into your role, because hr manager, sir.
10:24:47 It's about yeah about 9 months. okay yeah and It was a lot of challenges.
10:24:55 I. So you are our public working director sent me a video last week about the challenges in the public sector trying to get enough employees.
10:25:04 So. Most other sectors have recovered full employment since Covid, but the public sector has not been having a really hard time recruiting employment, and I I just, I wanna
say that I think you know We are pretty
10:25:19 aligned in, especially with with Sarah in trying to make this a a great place to work.
10:25:28 And It would try to really help with bring up salaries.
10:25:32 In the last year or 2. and just really I appreciate your partnership, Sarah, and and you know creating a culture that will attract people into the future.
10:25:43 And it's it's a real challenge but if you're doing a great job, and I think we are trying to to change the impression that government has to be just to slow in bureaucratic
place.
10:25:53 But you know, trying to provide some flexibility and innovation, and opportunities for growth and livable wages.
10:26:00 And so that is speak for the board and saying that we're committed to that really trying to to appreciate our employees in every way that we can.
10:26:11 Yeah, thank you. I so appreciate that and I I think that also happens because it's the it's the relationship that we have, and also that the support coming from by the leaders
of the county.
10:26:28 So thank you all, Helen and Sarah, and we can have fun, too, Right?
10:26:38 We can enjoy ourselves and provide this amazing service to our community.
10:26:45 So? yeah, what's Not to like about that yeah Okay, well, it's 1026 on some clocks and 1025 on others.
10:26:59 So our our next agenda item is not for 5Â min. that's our Accordingly, dnr report, and we'll be joined by Drew rosenbaum, and mona Griswell for that so what
10:27:13 do you want to do for 5Â min? Take a break, Turn the videos off any any short updates from anyone
10:27:25 No Let's just break for 5Â min until 1030 and then we'll come back and get back on our time.
10:33:10 Morning, Mona. Good morning. Sorry you Good morning, Drew Good morning, and there i'll call us back to order 1030, and we have been joined by our colleagues from Dnr.
10:33:38 To give their quarterly updates on Dnr.
10:33:42 County income. Well, I wanted to start off by thanking both the Commissioner Brotherton and Commissioner Eisenhower for being our Board of Natural Resources tour.
10:33:58 Fortunately, one day I was traveling, and the next day I had totally like symptoms, so I decided not to share those.
10:34:06 But I appreciate it, and sounds like Drew and the team did an excellent job.
10:34:11 So. thank you very much for doing that. It was awesome, and I I have never seen the Olympic Experimental forest.
10:34:20 So I was thrilled to finally get up close and personal.
10:34:25 Yeah, it's right that we're putting the experiment back in the experimental forest.
10:34:32 Yeah. also wanted to let you know that Sarah Ogden, our trust outreach specialists, may be joining us.
10:34:40 Okay, anyway. Take it away. Drew alrighty. Good morning.
10:34:48 First to second quarter. No change we're still at 306,836 for income on the timber.
10:35:00 And you did get $1,584 an income on a lease payment.
10:35:08 Looking ahead At third quarter, though, 2 payments came in on Mount Jupiter.
10:35:17 They're starting to move some right away volume off the hill.
10:35:19 So we did get a little bit about $3,200 on that.
10:35:26 And then luckily we got a nice payment in an advanced payment in on taylor downhill sorts of $664,126, So that's I wasn't sure if we
10:35:42 were gonna be able to do that. the sale is cutting really quick.
10:35:49 So they did go ahead and advance that we've moved enough volume that they'd made in advance payments so really happy to see that that'll be a big boost I wouldn't expect the
10:36:02 balance of that until probably first quarter of 23 though at this point.
10:36:11 So that's where we're at penny Penny comes up for sale this week, and then we sold Beaver Valley.
10:36:23 Last month Got a pretty good price for it. So 2.1 million, almost 2.2 million for that one.
10:36:32 So, and I expect those to probably harvest next summer and so that'll that'll bring in a few 1 million more.
10:36:43 That'll get us through that through calendar 23.
10:36:47 So you'll end up seeing the Balance of taylor sorts Bolton Rehab is another one that's sold in June.
10:36:57 Small sale. I think it does have a 23 expiration date on it.
10:37:04 I'm hoping that they'll move on that fairly quickly that's another 418,000.
10:37:12 Not sure I haven't heard anything yet on whether or not they're moving in so hopefully that that's a possibility for some time later this year.
10:37:22 But again I would, I betting on it, coming in in 20.
10:37:27 So that leaves you with currently about 3.8 million under contract and depending on the price on penny.
10:37:36 The minimum bid is 1.9 million. and so after next week you could have 5.2 million under contract at least half of that coming in next year.
10:37:55 Thanks for the update you drew can I ask you a question about Fever Valley.
10:37:59 Seems like that it was a really good sale price i'm just i'm trying to. but it's been so through so many iterations.
10:38:06 I guess that's so even without unit one I guess it ex exceeded expectations.
10:38:13 Yes, yup it's a it's a nice sale definitely nice sale, and it's in the right location.
10:38:20 I was a little bit worried because we didn't do that well in June.
10:38:25 Not as many bidders for some of our sales a lot. Quite a few of the sales in June Were in the Clearwater block.
10:38:34 We we swung and missed on one. of the type 3 sales age, 1,500 didn't sell, and then it didn't sell a on the second offering So I was a little worried but typically over on this
10:38:49 end. We do well, even even in, you know, as things start to claim, we still got some competition, and and still do pretty well.
10:38:57 So I was pleased with what I saw. Thank you. Any other questions for Drew or Amona on
10:39:09 The report he just gave I have a question i'm not sure if you can answer this through, but i'm guessing you can.
10:39:18 Do you see any Any change in where locks are going from?
10:39:23 Jefferson County, or they still largely going down to Shelton.
10:39:27 Just curious if, it gets the mill back on line on the West End.
10:39:32 Is that changing anything? just any anything, you tell me about where logs are going to be helpful?
10:39:36 Yeah, it's pretty much the same market we've seen nothing on the mills and forks lots of promising information.
10:39:47 The one at the old allen's mill site down on the hoe was supposed to be there.
10:39:52 They were projecting in December opening, but Sarah.
10:39:58 Reports of people driving through the log. yard said there's a pile of equipment there, sitting there, but nothing's being assembled.
10:40:05 So I they're gonna have to hurry in the next couple of months to be open and running they did do a job fair, and forks, and apparently made some hires.
10:40:16 So I have hope that they're still gonna be on time and Then the mail at the out and beaver at the old port tax site is i'm hearing just the rumors i'm hearing or that they're
struggling
10:40:28 with permits. I know the stormwater permits are going to be difficult there, because they're right on Lake Pleasant.
10:40:36 And you know the site's been shut down for several years. so they're gonna have to go back through that process.
10:40:43 But I you know i'm i'm still hearing they're excited and moving.
10:40:48 I'm here, it's i'm unsubstantiated rumors about cross laminated timber at the old kiln site and the forks industrial park.
10:41:00 So I am really really hopeful. Some of that still gonna happen.
10:41:04 But so far same market, same purchasers, same same locations.
10:41:10 You anticipated my question, which was about cross lemonade in timber, because I've been hearing some of the same rumors.
10:41:16 So if you hear let me know drew if you're anything new?
10:41:25 So i'm i'm really hoping that that's gonna be the case.
10:41:28 But and I, you know I know that you know setting up a mill takes time, and and they've got to get through all the permit processes and all that.
10:41:35 But you know it is an experience group that's doing the work. and so I i'm hopeful we definitely could use the market and and getting some clt out would be great I see that
Jeff Jeff on muted and raised his
10:41:51 hand, Jeff, you have a question. Well, with that include the Alan the old yeah.
10:41:55 I'm. a little confused, I used to work at the like pleasant mail.
10:41:59 Well the cedar mill there on like pleasant and beaver.
10:42:02 But on the Alan logging property. So that would that would include that, too, is up and running.
10:42:11 Or yeah, they they were actually supposed to be the first one.
10:42:12 And when when we heard originally that you know that had been purchased, and they said they'd be up by this December.
10:42:19 But so far there's equipment sitting in the old log yard, and no movement.
10:42:25 So, and are They did have a big job fair I wanna say 3 months ago in forks and lots of lots of interest people applying
10:42:40 But I haven't seen a whole lot going on They are So they own both sides of the highway.
10:42:45 There. Their shop was on the west side of the highway and the mill on the east, and there's a patch of timber between there and the clear water main line on the west side.
10:42:55 I've seen that they built a road into it looks like They're getting rated a log that piece, and I I I don't know if that maybe they're gonna log that to make some money I i'm
not
10:43:05 sure What's going on. there but they're gonna really have to hustle to have a mill up and running by by December.
10:43:13 But i'm hopeful, I mean they you know they would definitely add some competition to our market.
10:43:19 If if we can get them up and running thank you any other questions Stacy's joining us as well, I don't know if she has any questions.
10:43:33 No no questions, thank you, 1 one thing i'll add on the report is, if if fire disk, or if each Jeffrey fired rescue, which is fire district one merges with fire.
10:43:45 District 3, we will be changing some of the tax code areas around
10:43:50 In fact, that 3 goes away. But you know with sharing i've been talking about, and we may try to make create a unique tax code.
10:43:57 So we can keep what was fire district 3 separate from fire district one so we'll know, for things like if the timber sale we won't confuse it as being in try area or in Hadlock
or on Marathon
10:44:11 island will know that. Oh, well, it's. pla so that's the kind of thing we're looking at is that the tax code numbers will get shifted around somewhat.
10:44:19 Okay, So if you can let me know if that happens, and then I can get the updated shape files from your Gis folks, and and then we still are running everything through your shop
before we put it into our system.
10:44:33 So you can that'll be a double check to make sure we're right.
10:44:37 But yeah, just keep me in the loop and absolutely They'll probably have them in 2023 for 2024.
10:44:44 But you will definitely work with you to make sure that we keep all that straight, perfect. Yeah.
10:44:50 Well, that'll be great. I I panicked a little bit last week, when I saw the the interest payment come in on Texas Valley for you guys and thought, -oh, we just distributed the
wrong way.
10:45:03 But you guys got it straightened out. They just had the wrong name on there.
10:45:09 But it was a. It was an hour of panic there until the emails came through. Thanks Drew.
10:45:17 I will credit, Katie, our investment specialist accountant for noticing that and wanting to make sure it was right before we distributed.
10:45:24 And so on our end. It was really great to have that ahead of time and be able to to check in and have your your team and Dr.
10:45:32 Very responsive. Yeah, Yeah, They usually will get back right away.
10:45:38 And I have in the board, too, or I was kind of tied up for the most of last week, and I noticed when I did open it up I noticed that Klein got a distribution, and you got one
for the same sale and
10:45:51 then caught up on the email chain and realized yeah it was just labeled wrong that it's it got got sent out correctly Yeah.
10:46:04 So for everyone else's benefit the name of the the agreement had interest in it, and it was coded as Timber trust one.
10:46:12 And so we were making sure that it was coded for the bars and the actual item correctly, because everything gets distributed differently.
10:46:22 Yeah, Thanks for your eagle eyes. everyone. anything else for the good of the order on this agenda. item.
10:46:35 My, I really appreciate the time. all your staff and all the region staff and the best Olympia staff spent last week showing, I mean showing Greg and I around some of the projects
happening up here.
10:46:51 It was a super day, and great to get to know folks a little bit, more especially off of zoom refreshing to be out in the woods with actual human bodies.
10:47:02 So, and I appreciate spending time with you, Drew, and sorry we we missed you, Mona.
10:47:09 Anyway. Just wanted to share some gratitude for that, Jeff.
10:47:13 I see your hand up, and then I see greg's hand up.
10:47:17 Yeah, I have a an unrelated question there are there's a national seeing trail that crosses our county and goes up into the Olympic National Forest and some of the hikers find
shortcuts to get up
10:47:29 there, and and what they are. They're on Rainier roads that are shared as Dnr Roads do.
10:47:35 They have I you know how does it work if it's a if it's a Dna.
10:47:40 If if Dnr has an agreement with Re near to use that road system, do, does the public have a right to be on that road system without securing a rainy or a permit?
10:47:52 No, they they don't have the right so my easements most like 99% of my easements are resource access.
10:48:02 Only very few There's a few rainy easements in the West End that still have public access, easy, you know, along with resource.
10:48:11 Basically all use. No, they're definitely a trust passing across rain here.
10:48:16 They should have a permit perfect. Thank you. Rainier.
10:48:20 Pr. outside a hunting season. I don't know the rainier looks that much, especially for you.
10:48:28 No foot traffic. But yeah, I mean if rainier security came across them.
10:48:31 They'd be asked to walk, but you know walk out of there and get off the property because it's a national scenic trail.
10:48:40 It would be nice to negotiate a way that they can be on that access.
10:48:44 But again, I can talk to justin about it and see if if Dnr maybe can assist, I mean I realize it's not responsibility, but can assist with that.
10:48:53 So so cause it's, pretty unreasonable for a hiker going from Montana to the ocean to get a 175 permit for you know, for an hour.
10:49:04 But so maybe there's a way to work. that out they they and they do bend a little bit.
10:49:11 But they are difficult to work with but yeah check into it, and let me know where you're headed because they they can be a little bit sticky.
10:49:21 They had a lake in the West stand out in the Dicky River country.
10:49:27 That was basically a $175 permit to go fish it.
10:49:31 And there was enough pressure put on him that they they pulled their restrictions and made them green dot roads.
10:49:40 So they they do bend, but not very much. Okay, Thank you, Greg.
10:49:47 Did you have your hand up? Do we have it listed as public comment?
10:49:56 Yes, okay. Well, Stacy has her hand up so she gets to go first.
10:50:03 Well, mine's on just unrelated note just to say that a couple of weeks ago
10:50:09 I saw a couple of men on the Olympics well on the Larry Scott portion of the Odt.
10:50:15 And they had they were on their 20 fifth day averaging about 25 miles a day, and they had started in Cincinnati, and we're going to end up at what's the northwest most
10:50:28 Point Kate Flattery yeah, they were gonna end there.
10:50:34 And so yes, they are doing put on bike or hiking Stacey full heightened gear.
10:50:41 I asked them if they were preparing for a trek and They said they were on the trick.
10:50:48 Wow! that's 25 miles a day, and full hiking here. that's impressive. Yeah.
10:50:58 Okay, So we do have public comment listed on this agenda item today.
10:51:02 If any members of the public who are on the attendee list would like to comment on anything we've discussed here with our Dnr colleagues, please use the raise hand button, at
the bottom of your zoom screen and we'll bring you
10:51:19 over to join the panel. Anybody interested in making a public comment i'll just say that we receive we continue to receive a number of written comments about particularly that
penny wise sale and particularly unit 7 of that so or what it's
10:51:38 worth. we're still getting those those notes from folks and imagine we will continue to get those for a while, not seeing any hands go up last call for public comments on our
second quarter.
10:51:53 Dnr report or waiting. I really really enjoyed the tour, drew Mona thanks for putting it together.
10:51:59 I learned a lot, and and as how you said it was really great to.
10:52:04 They have some facetime with a variety of Dnr.
10:52:05 Staff and and board members. So thank you. Yeah, it was a It was a good tour.
10:52:10 That was a lot of fun Okay, i'm not seeing any hands go up, so i'll close public comment on this item, and we'll let our colleagues get back to work their other work and will
bring over Mr.
10:52:24 Hansacker to talk about a couple of holy cap items.
10:52:29 Thanks, Drew and Mona. Thank you. Hello! And and prior to that I think we should address
10:52:39 What Greg brought up when we were talking about the so who wants to tee up the issue?
10:52:50 From the consent agenda this morning, which was the 1 51 1590 funds for oly cap.
10:53:00 We're only an applicant for those funds this year.
10:53:02 So I can queue up my conversation or my question that I really have for Mr.
10:53:06 Hunter that I think we should just discuss in an open session.
10:53:09 There was a complete to the auditors office and I'm not sure if it'll end up in the State Ages office instead of the State auditors office that that me being on the olycap Board
I Shouldn't
10:53:21 sign non Csbg contracts with Oly Cap.
10:53:25 I really do believe that you know, especially in casual round village. I'm acting on behalf of the county, you know, and I am not signing contracts on both sides of the deal
you know there's an
10:53:37 operational decision on the only Cap side and all these contracts that have been complained about, but also happy to abstain from that vote while we we await the any recommendation
from the auditors office just because I
10:53:53 don't want to complicate any of these contracts and I don't think we need to go backwards, as all of the votes were 3 o in favor of it. so there.
10:54:01 Was no, no decision that was made by this alleged conflict.
10:54:07 But I just wanna make sure that we don't complicate any future contracts with with holy Cap, or as this would translate to other boards that were were assigned to our practices
in in in dealing with the situation
10:54:20 across a variety of of boards and committees that we sit on
10:54:32 Any Input: fill up on that question. Margaret, Philip, I do. I have a little Powerpoint I together this morning on this we can talk about.
10:54:43 Does that make sense? Everybody see my screen? We can. Okay, so sorry, trying to get organized.
10:55:02 Can you still see it. Okay, How about now? yeah it's not the slideshow, though.
10:55:09 I'll get it there. There you go all right so a little background, and you guys can correct me if i'm wrong in the background.
10:55:21 But this is how it works. in our county commissioners are assigned to serve on boards.
10:55:29 The various governmental entities are nonprofits.
10:55:31 The assignments are made and open public meeting commissioners received no financial compensation from the assigned entity.
10:55:39 And then there's a list of assignments that can be viewed on accounting website.
10:55:44 So that's the list. it's an extensive list and it includes agencies like the Fort Warden advisory committee the hood canal coordinating committee, 9 one twof comm 1 9 1
10:56:02 one and so forth, and it also includes nonprofits like holy cap
10:56:16 So the conflict adventures, rules regarding contracts let let by municipal officers, which would include all members of the Board of County Commissioners, chapter, 42, 23 of
Rcw.
10:56:32 And the consequences are significant. I put them up here. They These are quotes from 42, 23, 0, 5, 0, Any contract made in violation of the provisions of this chapter is void
and so forth.
10:56:51 And then it's it's a there's a penalty of $500 for for the for the municipal officer violating yeah and Then
10:57:08 It may be grounds for forfeiture of the municipal out office office.
10:57:11 So significant consequences.
10:57:16 But What's prohibited this is really important and Here's the Rcw.
10:57:24 That talks about that. it's our cw 42 23 0, 3 0 and the key is whether the municipal officer is beneficially interested directly or indirectly, and a contract made through the
through
10:57:44 or under the supervision of such officer. and
10:57:50 And it talks about, you know, compensation gratuity or reward and connection with such contract.
10:57:58 And then it's clear that the section does not apply in the following cases: There's a list of 12, but I don't think any of the other 12 is very significant.
10:58:10 But 6 A is and it exempts contracts in which the amount received by the municipal officer or the municipal.
10:58:22 Yeah. not exceed $1,500 in any month.
10:58:30 So so that's significant and then? we talked about this already earlier?
10:58:39 What what are void. and then what does municipal. I'm sorry, Ben beneficial interest means there's one case directly on point.
10:58:51 It's this barry versus john's case that the citation up is up at the top of the up top of the slide.
10:59:00 And these are quotes from the barry versus John's case.
10:59:06 We are. you Can you can see if you look at chapter at the chapter of the Rcw.
10:59:14 It doesn't, define, beneficial interests and so the court was faced in this case with deciding whether the the term beneficial interest meant financial interest, or any interest.
10:59:33 And the court analyzed this the statute, and said: Because the exceptions to the general rule prohibiting a municipal officer having a beneficial interest in certain initial
contracts, all includes business transactions or
10:59:47 employment matters, the court concluded that the legislature intended the term beneficial interest under the general rule, to encompass the same thing.
10:59:58 In other words, only business transactions or employment matters, and the conclusion in the case was that Rcw.
11:00:06 42, 23 0, 3 0 applies only to municipal contracts, involving business transactions, employment matters, and other financial interests, and and cannot be read to apply to the
contract here, which conferred no financial benefit so
11:00:24 to the extent that commissioners are serving on boards of nonprofits or other agencies.
11:00:34 They are doing so without any financial benefit, and there is no question of interest.
11:00:45 Under Chapter 42, 23 Rcw. any questions I'm.
11:00:52 Just to save me looking it up is that the was the complaint file specifically under this Rcw.
11:00:57 This case. no! The complaint filed against Mr.
11:01:02 Brotherton. No, it wasn't clear but they did reference this Rcw.
11:01:09 So I found this case very versus john's in about 10Â min.
11:01:14 It's worth noting any other questions, greg for Well, I guess I mean It's you know this conclusion is a bit of a weight off my shoulders, of course i'm just wondering what I
don't really understand
11:01:31 what a complaint to the auditors office could entail!
11:01:36 I mean the State auditors office, that is, if they disagreed with this, it would go to court or I.
11:01:46 What would be the possible path? I just, you know, wanna make sure. so.
11:01:52 So the Ottomans office could issue an opinion on this.
11:01:56 But but you know, typically, and you could get an opinion from the ages office.
11:02:01 But I think the case is pretty clear. And yeah, someone could try to challenge one of the one of the contracts has happened in.
11:02:16 In another case about a year or 2 4 years after this there's some contracts and and that were that were challenged went up to the court of appeals as a published decision on
it and the court
11:02:31 basically said the statute doesn't apply in that situation So there is a risk that, you know, the contracts would be void if they if they were in violation of the statute.
11:02:45 But this case interprets beneficial interests to mean that it doesn't include any financial benefit, and you know just as importantly. if you if you look at what the statute
itself says not too far.
11:03:04 Sorry the contracts that are exempt are ones where you receive less than a $1,500 in any month.
11:03:18 You're getting nothing for these contracts so I I think the answer is pretty clear that there's no conflict.
11:03:32 Thank you. Can I see your hand up. Yeah, I just wanna point out to that community action programs with.
11:03:42 Yeah, We're a function of the we're on poverty and the 30.
11:03:47 Is that right? I 64, Lyon, Johnson, Hick Stick by. Thank you, Johnson.
11:03:51 You know that these were meant to be public private entities, and you know they were public private partnerships and and the board specifically called for elected officials
to sit on on the board's.
11:04:07 One third. they have a tripartate board structure and
11:04:10 So just wanna call out that if this was indeed a violation given that there are thousands of I should say 100.
11:04:17 There's public or community action programs all over the country with made up of one third elected officials on the boards.
11:04:26 If this was an issue, this would have come. There would be a lot of case law around this.
11:04:30 This is a very common structure, and so I i'm relieved to hear that it's not an issue, and I'm not surprised because many many services are offered through community action
programs.
11:04:41 Across the country with elected officials. taking in additional public funds.
11:04:46 So I put the list back up here in response to your Comment Commissioner, because, I think there are other entities that require public folks to be on the boards, too.
11:05:04 And so you know it. If If that if the rule is as alleged in the letter, we're correct, it would totally disrupt participation of legislative bodies all over the State in these
types of organizations, so you
11:05:24 know, based on the berry case, which I think is pretty clear and also based on the exception.
11:05:33 I I just don't think there's a conflict this is not a difficult question for me.
11:05:39 Appreciate the insight. Can I ask? Just make it a little more complex?
11:05:45 You know I I joined the Northwood Canal Chamber at the one where, when it was kind of going fallow, and it was still on that organization.
11:05:53 It is not an assigned board assignment it's something that I did just to to help out, and I go on to the noxious.
11:05:59 We board in a similar way, and I still get no financial renewation, or get paid, or anything like that.
11:06:06 But is it? would that be a more complicated question whether there is a conflict when considering, say the you know quilting communities, the their application for L.
11:06:17 Tech funds, Okay, I mean the key is whether you're whether there's a financial interest of some kind I don't see a financial interest there, either.
11:06:31 Okay, would apply to me being the community foundation board, because that's when I elected to stay on my I was elected, but I do not receive any payment for being on that board,
or any I'm.
11:06:43 Not a nonprofit that receives grants through that board.
11:06:47 So there's a case that talks about the reasoning behind this.
11:06:54 You know this financial interest rule the way it is and it's is to encourage or to allow people who have business interests to be in counting government and and contract with
the county, and you can see that you know exception
11:07:14 6 A. allows or contracts with municipal officers. As long as the compensation is $1,500 or less.
11:07:24 So. you know I just. I think the answer is pretty clear here.
11:07:34 Thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah, thank you for your clarifying that one for us.
11:07:39 Philip Now we can move on to what was actually on the agenda.
11:07:43 The about the consent. item, first
11:07:53 To adopt passes a contended to agenda. Item number.
11:07:59 I think it was 10 you're muted great alright I said I'll.
11:08:06 I'll move that we approve what was consent agenda item, number 10.
11:08:09 The agreement regarding this person of the 1,590 grant funding for 2022, and the amount of $440,000 to Olympic community action program, and maybe what noting is recommended
that has like
11:08:23 fun for i'll second all in favor no this For the next item we have public comment.
11:08:34 This was a I think i'm a consent agenda previously, where public comment was offered. Yeah, we had.
11:08:43 We had 30Â min of public comment at the outset. Okay, yeah.
11:08:48 Try to be careful. Yeah, we don't have public comment listed for design them.
11:08:56 Okay, all in favor. Did we do that? Bye, bye, Okay, Now we can move on to the item that was on our agenda which is consideration of at least between Jefferson County and Oly
Cap for the casual Brown
11:09:14 village site. And this item does have public comment
11:09:21 Okay, ,
11:09:28 Everybody see my screen. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So we So we previously had this up for discussion a couple of weeks ago, where it was a was a Leach purchase agreement.
11:09:44 So you have seen it before, and and and the public has seen it before.
11:09:51 This is a red line showing changes made since you last saw it.
11:09:57 There were a few comments made by the board, or suggestions made by the board.
11:10:02 I guess one decision made by the Board that it would be a least of document instead of a lease, purchase a document, and then I think it was Commissioner Dean that was concerned
about making it real clear about use of of the
11:10:21 trail Larry Scott trail that's on the property. so some some clarifying language has been added about Larry Scott trail and county rights way, and so not being included in the
lease and also
11:10:39 what? What are the relationships between Oly Cap and the county related to those those interests?
11:10:50 And So I I think you know since we didn't go through the contract in detail.
11:10:58 The last time may make sense to kind of scroll through it and look at it.
11:11:02 If that's your pleasure. or we can just talk about the changes. I love to walk through it, since we haven't really this open session.
11:11:13 Okay. So section one just describes the property you can see that there's a change from the original.
11:11:24 It's just clarification and I have to give a shout out to Kevin Hitchcock here, who helped me also with the the diagram that's attached at the end.
11:11:37 But but kevin and I guess mark were involved with the title Company, when we took title of of making a correction to the title to this parcel that's reflected in this change
language.
11:11:49 So this is the legal description from when we bought it.
11:11:53 That parcel and so that's why it's changed but you can see that it's quite a bit longer.
11:12:04 Then the original description. and I believe that's the accurate legal description questions about that so that defines the whole property.
11:12:17 And then you know the less he is only cap we're the lesser.
11:12:22 And then there's some definitions was the definition section and frankly, in most least documents like this, the additional ren and base rant sections would have great meeting,
because we're talking about a contract for $10 a
11:12:41 year they don't they don't have a lot of meaning financially.
11:12:48 So we have a definition of additional rant based rent.
11:12:53 The county. That means us the effective date that's defined it's just refers to section 20 there's a definition of emergency shelter a definition of environmental wall and hazardous
substances those
11:13:08 come to play with with the prohibition you'll see later in the in the contract. Oh, we don't want oly cap, you know, causing any environmental problems for this on this lease.
11:13:22 And then we have a definition for the Jefferson County code.
11:13:25 The lease means this lease says used in the in the and the document and then the lease premises separate from the property.
11:13:35 It's The portion of the property that we're actually leasing that's defined in section 5 we'll get there in a minute.
11:13:42 Minute management agreement is the current management agreement we have with Olycap to manage the facility.
11:13:51 Dated September tenth. 2,020.
11:13:54 One oly cap means the lessy and you just have a definition of parties, which means one of the parties
11:14:03 And then we have a definition here which I adapted from from
11:14:12 An Rcw. permanent supportive housing that'll be used in the permitted uses portion of of the I believe.
11:14:23 In other words, releasing the lease premises for a permitted use.
11:14:27 And this is one of the permitted uses. Make sense so far.
11:14:32 Property is It is we've already. looked at what that means that's in section one and then purpose of the least it's in sections that's in section 6, and then rent means both
the base rent and the
11:14:46 additional rent. Rcw. provides code of Washington, and then rights of way for public public roads.
11:14:55 These are the rights of way that we're I was talking about it a minute ago. So that's what it means the term of the lease is just how long it is that's in section 8 It's
11:15:07 42 years, I believe, transitional housing as a another purpose another purpose.
11:15:15 Then it's defined here as what it means you Usc.
11:15:20 Means United States code, Unhoused person is basically the definition of a homeless person included in Rcw.
11:15:28 36, 70, a 0 free 0, 19, and 42. Usc.
11:15:36 Section 1, 1, 3 o 2 wax is the Washington administrative code
11:15:46 And then we go into the the terms, and here are the least premises.
11:15:52 It's everything in in the parcel except for the Larry Scott trail, and the right of way.
11:16:05 And then it really comes down to looking at exhibit one, which is which is the
11:16:10 The picture showing, or the d diagram showing the the lease Premises might make sense to just go to that
11:16:21 So we, while we're talking about it we can look at it here it is.
11:16:27 I have a question on this actually okay with up at the the corner of of mill and highway 20 it's a very defined right away.
11:16:40 But as the city works on, maybe another connector to the Larry Scott trail, I can imagine it coming in, you know, kind of at a 90 degree angle to where it's going to the intersection.
11:16:53 Right now. I just wonder if There's any flexibility if the ideal route for the Larry Scott trail, or a connector to the Larry Scott trail with the City's Evans Mr.
11:17:03 Project coming down through their stormwater facility. Get that flexibility can be adjusted later, or if it's could be addressed.
11:17:09 Now. don't know haven't thought about that i'm.
11:17:25 I I think that if you were going to, you know, bring water or sewer down here.
11:17:29 Assuming that that was allowed by Gross manage the Growth Management Act, which is, is is a question that has to be answered.
11:17:39 I would think that oly cap as the less less he would want that.
11:17:46 And so I think there would be an incentive for them to, you know, work with the city in the county to try to make that happen.
11:17:55 Because if you were bringing it down there part of the reason you'd be bringing it down there is to provide it to this parcel.
11:18:01 Right. I was really talking about just the trail not the infrastructure. but but the the infrastructure is also a valid question, and I'm: So yeah.
11:18:11 So with respect to the trail to it's really defined by a number of easements that show where it is so there's not a great deal of flexibility without negotiation with with the
whole you know the
11:18:27 the holders of whatever parcels that the easements are on.
11:18:32 You'd have to you'd have to renegotiate those easements who was a little corner piece that that that that top I believe it's in you mean up here Yes, that will try I believe
11:18:45 It's in the right way. Okay, perfect. Well, that would So I think the right away comes all the way around here.
11:18:51 I got a business. the mill road right away. then you get the highway 20 right away, and I think before it was highway 20.
11:19:00 It was some other street I can't remember it's in the legal description.
11:19:09 Yeah. Say again, i'm sorry I was concentrating on a on a typo that needed to be fixed.
11:19:15 What is more, what is Mark now? Oh, you had your hand up so that you were talking of?
11:19:21 We wanted to talk about the right of ways. no I just on page 23 there's a there's a correction that needs to be made.
11:19:29 Okay, alright. so My question is, is mood. since that goes into the right way.
11:19:35 It would be a natural trail junction and I think you're My other question was about the infrastructure.
11:19:41 If in the future Gmail allowed, that and we did wanna pursue that i'm, I imagine that it would be to the benefit of the of the property here as well.
11:19:52 So holy Cap would be a a positive negotiator.
11:19:55 I'm just scrolling on a little bit, so you can see that you know how it works.
11:20:02 But we actually excluded out the right of way from the the The red outline is the least premises portion.
11:20:12 And then, you know, obviously the pink is larry's car trail.
11:20:17 I think it's pink you know you have I know i'm challenged about pink versus purple.
11:20:24 Sometimes there you go. But anyway, that's that's lease premises, question more questions about the diagram.
11:20:35 Okay. So now I have to remember where it was I I I think I remembered I was on page 4.
11:20:41 Let's see how good I get
11:20:47 Yeah, yeah, these premises on 4 and we're talking about exhibit one on So and then we're saying in these premises, that while oly cap or an asset or subtanet is in
11:21:08 possession. you know that we're not gonna ran it to someone else.
11:21:13 And and these generally are what you see in this in and leases. These premises are provided with fixtures.
11:21:25 There's picture there now. and and we reserved the right to inspect it in our entry for those purposes is not, and interference with Oly cap's possession, and then you'll
11:21:49 notice that, as we talked about when we're talking about the definitions.
11:21:53 There's a definition of purpose, of this lease and it and it has those those definitions, or uses those definitions unhouse permanent.
11:22:04 You know persons at least premises and then it's talking about operations as an emergency sector, which is a defined term transitional housing, which is it defined term and
a permanent supportive housing which
11:22:23 is a defined term, so those are all defined. We went over those a minute ago.
11:22:31 And and it allows for all of these things and more that fit within those types of operations.
11:22:48 Questions about purpose of release. Okay? No. So permitted and per and prohibited uses.
11:23:00 This is just saying that they can be used for the purpose of the lease, which was, which is a defined term.
11:23:13 And it we just talked about and it requires a compliance with our noise ordinance.
11:23:21 And the requirement that had not create a nuisance as defined in and title.
11:23:29 19 we're saying that parking on the lease premises. Is that holy cap's own room?
11:23:39 And then we don't want any dogs that have been declared dangerous or potentially dangerous on the on the property.
11:23:47 We don't want livestock there so those are, you know, prohibitions on what the premises can be used for, and then Larry Scott trail, and here's the you know it just talks about
11:24:06 the largest Scott trail, and it it says that it's shown on. Exhibit one in purple or pink, depending on your preference.
11:24:17 And then and then olycap agrees that it's operation of lease premises will not interfere with use of Larry's cut rail by members of the public.
11:24:32 But then we added this language to accommodate holycap's concern that's added here that routinely crossing the Larry Scott trail doesn't qualify as an interference so you
11:24:47 know, just crossing the trail is not an interference, but say, Olycap built the structure in the middle of it.
11:24:53 That would be a problem. same kind of provision with regard to the rights of way.
11:25:04 And same same sort of exception
11:25:11 Questions about that section. Okay, seems clear to me. term of the least 42 years from the effective date.
11:25:24 That that was a compromise Olycap wanted 43.
11:25:29 We started with 40 40, as a requirement to obtain the grant from commerce.
11:25:37 That old cap intends to submit on September twelfth, and this gives them an extra year in case they don't achieve the grant.
11:25:45 In the first year they have one more opportunity with this lease to apply for it right, and of course we could always amend this to to make that as we were flexible with 7 seventh
haven on you know making fixes i'm sure we Do that
11:26:00 here, too. Okay, so rent so the base rent $10 a month. additional rent fees and taxes that apply from Olycap's activity.
11:26:20 Probably aren't any because it's a nonprofit, but we don't want to figure that out in this document in case in case that in case we get stuck with some tax or fee or something
11:26:32 they're gonna have to pay that seems very unlikely But that's that's the allocation of risk in that particular section.
11:26:40 Yes, break. Yeah, I think you might have misspoke it's $10 per year, not $10 per month. I'm sorry $10 per year.
11:26:46 Correct my mistake. Thank you for that correction, you know.
11:26:51 And then it has where they're supposed to pay it oh!
11:26:57 And then the whopping late charge of $1 10% of the you know, of the of the rent
11:27:08 And then these the the no waiver. Provision would be very important in, you know.
11:27:16 Most commercial lease, provisions like this if we accepted the $10 that you know, or the one, and or the $1, or whatever it's not a waiver of our rights.
11:27:29 And then parking this clarifies who can park there?
11:27:38 And
11:27:44 Employees and residents, bully cap employees of Olycap and residents are.
11:27:51 I can park the police premises. this is a covenant of quiet enjoyment.
11:27:56 This is a covenant typically to benefit the less e
11:28:00 So what it means is, you know we're not accounting you know can't come in there and disturb all their operations.
11:28:07 Basically it seems highly unlikely to to apply but it's something that a a less less he would want in there in their release, like this.
11:28:21 Okay, Yes, yeah. just under the parking section you know it's not.
11:28:26 It's still a bit of an open conversation but there's talk about on the least area, creating, perhaps funded by public works several parking spots for the Larry Scott trail,
kind of at the threshold of the trail
11:28:39 and at the the entry to the the facilities there and i'm, Just wondering Would that be allowed under under this parking period?
11:28:49 Is, Would it be part of the least? Well, where would we? Where would we put them if we were if we could put them on the county right right away?
11:28:54 No problem it it's not on the county Well, it'll be a negotiation. I mean we we could We'd have to design that by the end of this month.
11:29:02 Figure out where they were gonna go. so maybe that's a conversation with public works.
11:29:10 Do do we have? Do we know any any idea where they would go?
11:29:13 We can look at the diagram again. If you put the diagram back up I can show you where the conversation has been.
11:29:21 But okay, i'm just making a note to to go back to the largest to the parking for the largest trail.
11:29:33 So right where on the right hand side of the triangle where the the the trail comes in, you know Now there isn't the driveway essentially just south of that as well, that comes
on this side here So we're talking about this
11:29:48 basically, yeah, really, the rotor. The road approach comes in and is kind of a thick road, and then it it takes a
11:29:57 It splits, and before it splits there's a wide part of the road, where there's room for you know 6 head in parking spots.
11:30:04 If we if we want. So it would be just outside of the easement, moving in from the road approach just south of that.
11:30:13 Yeah, So we could. We could change the diagram to have a have a a piece here, or we could make it go down to here.
11:30:23 I guess we should double check with public works and see if That's something that that would be worthwhile. I mean.
11:30:31 I'm guessing that it won't matter much for oly Caps operations.
11:30:35 If we kept this piece of it I don't think it would matter at all.
11:30:38 No. There's a road that they built in There The only concern I would have is what expense would we have to go to to clear that level. It make it suitable for parking is that
but it's roadwork that
11:30:55 you know the county paid for holy Cap to do, and they just kind of made that area wider.
11:30:58 When schol brought the road in. So it's a a really wide road that has already been flattened.
11:31:06 Okay, all right, because work to turn it into a parking spot.
11:31:12 Okay, understood i'm just thinking you know for these purposes.
11:31:20 If you if you could just keep that whole, space then you'd have expansion possibilities, too, for parking, and if it's not going to matter much to them, you could just take
the red line and drop it down you know
11:31:33 to hear i'm also conscious that there's the timelines type for holy cap, and I don't want to.
11:31:39 I mean this is a negotiation. we can open this lease up with a well and negotiator and holycap too.
11:31:45 Well, I mean i'm pretty sure kevin can draw a line through here, and, you know, make it straight across, and not sure if a line straight across there is exactly what would be,
but I can follow up early tomorrow and I can touch base
11:31:57 with public works and and holy cap and see if there's any changes that should be made.
11:32:04 You know I mean if it's not material to their operations it might make sense to keep us some flexibility here for future parking, or whatever I don't know i'm just but yeah,
I we that's a question that
11:32:20 ought to be answered. I appreciate your checking on that.
11:32:21 Just let me know way in and soon. would be good cause I'm gonna be gone after this week for a little while, leaving leaving Saturday afternoon next Saturday afternoon.
11:32:38 I hope it's for fun it is my first extended vacation since the pandemic good well ern yeah, i'm looking forward to it.
11:32:51 Get all my packing. yesterday, which was extensive cause we're going scuba diving at the end of it so pretty fired up alright.
11:33:06 So let's see if I can get back to where we were
11:33:19 Was is good about remembering the page number this time. Sorry about that.
11:33:24 Okay, this is where we were talking about parking i'm going to.
11:33:31 Okay, I got my note overholding this is just what happens if the 42 years runs out and we don't have another lease with them.
11:33:42 This gives us rights during that period of continue to collect our $10 rent. and it's it's a typical provision, but it it.
11:33:52 It tells you what happens at the end of the terminal release and i'm sure that we would be we would have in mind before the end of the 42 years.
11:34:02 What we were going to happen was such a sniff, and would have a plan before we allow this to go into overholding.
11:34:10 But you never know so it's good good idea to have that have that link Section 13 is just about inspections that we can do that.
11:34:25 We may want to be able to inspect the property. Pretty standard language for release.
11:34:30 Any questions about that. Okay, so unlikely to happen.
11:34:41 But this is a standard term called Additional Rights on Reentry.
11:34:44 If if there was a breach of the lease, and it likely would be or not a financial reason, it seems to me, because the the number so well, well, then, we would have a right of
reentry.
11:34:57 And this just explains how all that works. Okay, questions on that. Okay.
11:35:07 So this is the the default language, and it just it.
11:35:15 It discusses what happens if Polycap is in default on the lease and default could be financial.
11:35:20 But in the case of this leads probably more significantly, non financial things, like, you know, online like this would ever happen.
11:35:31 But they spilled a big bucket of hazardous substances out there, you know, and they did, and it caused the big problem, and we didn't clean it up, you know, this could come
to play why am I focused on
11:35:42 that because I spent 20 years focusing on that so and it's a big deal.
11:35:48 If you get to have that kind of a problem. okay,
11:35:55 And then questions on that
11:36:03 Okay distress that's another standard, lease term if if we take possession of the property because it's a default.
11:36:16 Whatever is there we can hand, We can, you know. we can sell it or do whatever we need to with it.
11:36:23 And then this is how you deal with improvements. they have to be consistent with the purpose of the lease.
11:36:33 And after final permitting. So this is just saying that yeah we're basically permitting this for you know transitional housing and the other things that are in the purposes
of this least.
11:36:54 And and you have to have a permit for whatever piece there is for that as well.
11:37:00 And then oly cap, this was a negotiated term.
11:37:05 Commissioner Brotherton was there during the negotiations, and holy cap didn't want to give us control over the design of the buildings just too much trouble for them, so they're
willing to give us.
11:37:23 Input over what they would look like. and I think that's a fair compromise.
11:37:32 Okay, we're not supplying any channels and this is what this abandonment provision is just what happens if Olycap abandons the lease.
11:37:48 So it just tells you what happens. Questions about that no effective date it's effective.
11:37:56 The date the last party signs commissioner contingency.
11:38:05 Just this just makes clear the reality of doing contracts in our county unless there's a delegation there has to be Commissioner approval.
11:38:19 And maybe this is a good time to talk. about delegation, since we're on this only Cap was looking to have this least completed by the end of the month, so they can put their
packet together or submission on
11:38:37 September twelfth. we will not be having a
11:38:43 Board of County Commissioners meeting until the Tuesday after Labor Day.
11:38:49 So if get to the end of this document, and it seems generally okay.
11:38:55 May wanna consider delegating authority to the accounting to the county.
11:39:01 Administrator to finalize this document. so we don't get you know, in a crunch.
11:39:12 So that that has an effect on this. For video, we can put that in this provision itself, although not necessary.
11:39:20 If you delegate it not, but it could be to make it clearer.
11:39:24 You want to do that? So I think you should consider a motion when we're done talking about the least to delegate authority to the county administrator to finalize the leads
that makes sense and then approve
11:39:43 it on the sixth. Is that right? Tuesday to 6?
11:39:46 Well, you could approve it on the sixth, if you want, or you know the can administrator.
11:39:51 If you delegate, it he could sign the leads right before the end of the month, since that's what they're wanting i'm you know i'm not sure that it would matter that much having
this having this proved
11:40:04 on the sixth by the board, except they're gonna fret about it.
11:40:08 I mean putting their packet together. You know how important is it that the Board have final approval.
11:40:15 That's for you to you know you decide obviously it's your call.
11:40:19 But, anyway, that's how that relates to getting it done by the end of the month.
11:40:24 But We're. definitely not finalizing this by the end of the month, because we don't have final agreement on the language with Oly Cap, and maybe this is time to say this.
11:40:35 But So I talked to I provided this draft to only cap last Monday.
11:40:44 And as of last Thursday. Holycap had not had a final discussion with its consultants about the language.
11:40:55 So. I just thought better to get it on the agenda as currently written.
11:41:02 Because they've talked you know we talked about I mean the main things that we had to talk about was the Larry Scott trail and the county rights way and so they had comments
about those and the changes that
11:41:15 I proposed that are proposed in. those sections come directly from their consultants, and that's really the only thing to be, you know, have clarity on.
11:41:26 I think we don't know yet what you're gonna say Mike takes fiddling on the provisions to get those get those right.
11:41:32 But other next I think this is pretty good to go so but we're not going to get it finalized by the end of the month for sure.
11:41:42 So anyway, I I made an note to ask you about delegation and to get to the end.
11:41:48 Maybe someone else will remember to maybe mark can help you remember that cause he's gonna be talking pretty close to that when we get to page 23, and we fix the typo Alright,
So that's that one
11:42:01 termination can be terminated, at least can be terminated for cause on 90 days written notice.
11:42:09 So that could be important if there was you know continuing violations, or they, you know they created some kind of a huge public nuisance out there.
11:42:18 So that's what that's that's designed for okay, subordination in it. and it in a tournament.
11:42:27 This typically is to deal with clarity on any rights that oly caps holds are right or subordinate to.
11:42:41 Mortgages or loans, or something like that that we would have on the property, and vice versa.
11:42:48 Right, I mean they're whoever we got alone, or something from on seems unlikely that but you know you want to cover the contingency, and it's typically covered in these things.
11:43:03 Then? you know, both parties are protected.
11:43:08 Okay if we were to go out and try to get some sort of alone on the property, which seems highly unlikely.
11:43:16 But you know. but then, most likely to stop a certificate.
11:43:22 So and it's novel certificate typically is something that proves that your renters are are paying rent talks about what the brand is, and what's being paid here not a huge thing
considering the amount of
11:43:37 rent here. But It's standard language and at least like this: that we probably should have Okay, and then this is a very important leans.
11:43:49 What this basically says is, look low cap don't go grading any leans on the proper.
11:43:53 And if you do, you gotta fix, gotta get him resolved.
11:43:59 Okay, conditions and acceptance of lease premises we're basically saying, Hey, you know what this property is about.
11:44:08 You've been operating there for you know a while and you're taking it as is less these alterations, damages, and waste.
11:44:21 Basically, if they alter the property or they damage the property in any certain way, they're responsible for that questions so far eminent domain and expropriation highly unlikely
to happen, because well, yeah, what
11:44:42 let's i'll just make something, up let's say the hospital district decided that they wanted to have that this was the only place that they could have a new facility, and they
had the power of embedded domain, and they could make
11:44:55 the case that this property should be. so if you came in a domain and taken by them. this provision would tell them the parties to the leaves.
11:45:11 How that works. Okay, that's pretty unlikely but it's it's worth having.
11:45:14 It in there, just in case same for condemnation.
11:45:18 If the property was condemned then you know this is how how everybody's rights for and then these are sort of rules, care, and use of lease premises, things that we expect holycap
to do walter and let's
11:45:38 see, keep the premises in good repair and condition.
11:45:46 Dispose of trash not engage in any legal activity comply with standards of health, sanitation, fire, housing, and safety, as required by law.
11:45:58 And then, paragraph, 31 says that olycap and consultation with us can develop rules, regulations for operation of the lease premises.
11:46:11 I think they already do have rules for for how they operate.
11:46:16 And then section 20 32 is just about surrender for the property at the end.
11:46:24 It just basically says how that's all gonna work and it's sort of a standard lease term, and then near and dear to my heart.
11:46:33 What about hazardous substances? No, no, no. okay.
11:46:39 And Section 34. What happens in the event of a disaster?
11:46:46 Typically that's important for or payment of grant in particular, but it's not going to be a huge thing here.
11:46:55 But having how you allocate the risk, for that is important, and at least document like this cumulative remedies.
11:47:03 This just says: Any remedy that we have under the lease is not the only remedy we have.
11:47:08 If we had some other remedy of the law under law, we could assert it.
11:47:12 Example, if they were creating a nuisance, under the at the at the property the lease says you can't do that, and we can assert our rights and release.
11:47:22 We could also assert our rights under title 19 of our code.
11:47:28 Under the public nuisance. Law! and that's just this is just language making it clear that you know if we have other rights to, we can assert them.
11:47:40 This just talks about what happens. regarding performance on a default standard language on controlling law.
11:47:49 It's you know we're it's clear it's going to be Washington law.
11:47:54 Nobody's gonna argue otherwise. if we ever have it dispute.
11:48:01 This just shows where it's going to be it's either gonna be in Jefferson County or it's going to be in one of our neighboring counties, where you can file suit against Jefferson
county that's
11:48:14 either column or kids. Step County that's just by this Rcw.
11:48:19 36 o 1 0, 5, 0. Okay. entire agreement.
11:48:26 This is just saying, Hey, anything we talked about before doesn't matter This document is what matters legal and regulatory compliance.
11:48:37 It's just as oly caps going to comply with laws
11:48:42 And then 41 is indemnity and this is how, how we allocate it between us it's.
11:48:52 It's a pro county identity provision, basically oly caps going to indemnify us or anything that happens that they cause on their watch 42 general leaders insurance requirements
these are our
11:49:15 standard insurance requirements we have for almost every contract they come from the Risk pool.
11:49:22 A contracting manual, and so and oly cap is entered into these in almost every contract we've done with them, including 7 Evans.
11:49:32 The havens. So shouldn't be a problem and then this talks about what are the coverages that they have to have?
11:49:42 This is also standard language that they i've enter into all the caps entered into with us before including in 7 and 7 Haven contract final contract.
11:49:55 And then this is just saying how we have coverage mostly important because there's an anti segregation clause, and about 2 P. 2 S.
11:50:03 Sections up meaning they're not going to if they have some kind of an issue with us that they're gonna sue us, or whatever and insurance pays for their insurance pays for it
where they're not going to
11:50:24 segregate against us. that's important for for protecting us, but also important for protecting the risk.
11:50:31 Why? Because risk pool doesn't want to have to pay for something that somebody else insurance companies are already paying for.
11:50:39 That makes sense. Okay, no assignment this just says it can't it's least can't be assigned without our written assent.
11:50:50 This is says they're not. gonna be doing bulk sale of goods on the property this section says binding on successors and assigns.
11:51:02 And then this is just to make clear that we are saying that all the terms of the of this lease are material that's important, for whether there's a default or not, and the consequences
of a default are handled by that
11:51:15 default provision we talked about a minute ago. Time is of the essence.
11:51:19 That is a real estate term that's been around for hundreds of years, and it's in almost every real estate contract.
11:51:30 And it probably doesn't matter much for our purposes here. but it's standard language, and probably ought to be in the contract.
11:51:40 Amendment of the lease that just says that it has to be done in writing and signed by the parties.
11:51:48 Section headings mean, hey? The section headings are here to just kind of guide you, but you look at the actual language of the lease, not the section headings to determine
what it means.
11:51:59 If a section, if the word section is used in the least this this if 52 just says, we're talking about sections in this lease, unless you otherwise say so.
11:52:14 And then this is limits on a waiver of default.
11:52:18 You can't have an oral waiver or whatever and then this is how you interpret things under lease an order pre a preference, provision and then we're saying that if this if some
provision of
11:52:36 this lease is held invalid, then the whole thing is okay.
11:52:42 So sometimes you have provisions that allow for some provisions to remain.
11:52:51 In fact, even if you have a decision striking down some things.
11:52:56 But we have an agreement here that's important for the least for the purposes of the least right.
11:53:02 We're we're leasing these premises So that the facilities will operate there that we want there. And that's why we're doing it for 42 years.
11:53:12 If this thing fails on some basis legally. that's gonna kill the benefit of the bargain, So that's why there's a nose separability provision here.
11:53:22 So that makes sense. Okay, survival this just tells you that when the least is over there's certain provisions that will survive it.
11:53:36 And and those are the provisions that make sense so that'll survive it.
11:53:42 And really we're focused on most importantly controlling law insurance requirement and identification.
11:53:51 Why insurance? Because a lot of policies have long tails on them and current space insurance. and if you had property damage during a policy period on those liability policies,
even 40 years later, there might be coverage on that under
11:54:07 that policy. So it seems to keep, you know. Keep that, you know.
11:54:13 Keep that as something where the insurance provisions continue.
11:54:18 If there are provisions required by law this just says they're automatically added, we're saying that there's no third party beneficiary meaning someone who's not us can't come
in and try to
11:54:30 enforce this lease. this is just authorizing signature and counterparts, so you don't have to sign one same document.
11:54:41 This is allowing for electronic signatures this is saying that hey!
11:54:45 Everybody's represented by council, and is and no one has superior bargaining power here.
11:54:52 This is a requirement for maintenance of records.
11:54:56 And that's that allows us to go in and audit. if we need to have something on board is going going on.
11:55:06 And then here's a standard public record zack provision that we're putting in every contract we can that basically says, Hey, if you get a public record, Zack request Oly cap
and it's really directed at us then
11:55:18 you need to tell us and that's all it really says This attachments provision just says that all the attachments are part of the leaves.
11:55:32 And then the representations provision standard and any contract says everybody has a who's signing the stock in has authority to sign it.
11:55:44 And then finally addressed for notice one frolic cap, one for the county 23.
11:55:54 We're at your page mark what's the typo end of lease an option to purchase I think the option to purchase needs to be stricken you're right
11:56:12 Thank you.
11:56:19 Good, catch
11:56:24 Certain real property,
11:56:36 Oh, yeah, i'm cheating i'm looking at the header or the footer.
11:56:44 Sorry. Okay. So signatures and we're back to the drawing.
11:56:54 So we've been all the way through it questions so far. i've got a question. I and serious if it makes sense to reference anything pertaining to our code you know so and i'm
aware that
11:57:18 42 years is a long time, and things will change.
11:57:21 And I I notice the management agreement is referenced.
11:57:26 Early in the documents under the purpose, or uses
11:57:33 But maybe just, is there anything about kind of compliance with any county code relating to transitional or emergency shelter or traditional housing, emergency shelter?
11:57:44 That kind of thing. So So we define the code as Jefferson County code, as it exists now, or may be amended. and this whole lease is requiring compliance with counting code So
I think we're you know we're
11:58:03 better off leaving it broad like that. But I I think that addresses your concern.
11:58:08 Commissioner. Okay. Other questions, comments, I guess. Question for Kate and Heidi is: Are Are you willing to consider Phillips recommendation that perhaps we delegate authority
for the the final?
11:58:23 Lease, which I don't think will change substantially except perhaps for parking, or a few other details. we haven't heard back from Olycap.
11:58:30 Yet do we know what the their their time constraints, are specifically What they said was, they wanted everything together.
11:58:42 By the end of August, so they want the the least document done.
11:58:46 They want the plan for zoning or permitting done.
11:58:53 By the end of August I know that their submission deadline is midnight.
11:58:59 September twelfth.
11:59:07 That's that's what I was looking for okay any other questions cater grade in response to Greg's question.
11:59:17 I you know I think it's it is nice when the elected sign something like this. but it's largely symbolic.
11:59:27 So if there is a benefit, and getting this wrapped up before the 6, when we next meet, i'm fine with during the delegation of authority, if it doesn't much matter if it gets
to them on the
11:59:41 sixth Then I guess my my preference would be to to have assigned it.
11:59:47 But I I defer to what's best for the process So the the practical problem is, we're not going to be able to.
11:59:54 Well, I guess we could ask them, you know, and then you could decide.
11:59:56 This is afternoon. If they would tell us we got it to you on the sixth.
12:00:01 Would that work? Yeah, that would be great I mean I just I feel like, because we don't know what changes might be made.
12:00:10 You know i'm assuming that not many would be made but you know that's an assumption.
12:00:16 So it'd be nice to get our eyes on the final version if that's possible.
12:00:21 But I don't want to stand in the way of the process either.
12:00:27 Honestly if the question is is it possible, I think it's possible. because if you got it to him on the sixth, they'd still have 6 days to finish putting their packet together
But I don't know what other
12:00:41 stuff, I mean, if they had a sense of what it was gonna look like.
12:00:48 You know before that. but you know when you're putting a packet together for submission, or something you know it's nice to have something nailed down you when you're working
on it so it's it's a
12:00:59 nice, I would say it's most likely and nice to have thing. i'd also say that if there was a significant change, and you delegated this, and there was a significant change i'm
pretty sure that mark would talk to
12:01:13 you each individually about it, and this, and then you decide whether to bring it back before the board, or he would not sign it unless everybody had Can you know.
12:01:25 If he had gotten consensus from everybody but you know it's it's it's your call.
12:01:33 I I agree that you know if there isn't some symbolic value in the Board signing this for sure i'm sorry another option would be having just a brief special meeting.
12:01:46 You know, next Tuesday or Wednesday, if we expect a few questions to be hanging out there still about parking, whether we want to make any carve out for future.
12:01:58 Larry Scott trail parking anything that we wouldn't be able to reconcile today anyways.
12:02:04 But we want i'm i'm fine either way special meeting early next week, or at the end of this week definitely.
12:02:16 We would not have fill up after this week so it's noon, and I know that a couple of us have a meeting at noon. But i'm happy being elite to that I wish we do have a public comment
period on this
12:02:33 agenda item. So do we wanna take public comment now see if there's any public comment, and then i'd love to kick our other morning agenda.
12:02:43 Item after our 1 30 scheduled item for the the twelfth Covid policy.
12:02:49 If that's okay, I have a meeting i'll be there, I'll be there for that.
12:02:55 So if you want to finish this up after that, after that we can.
12:02:59 I mean you can take Boba comment Now and I think you'd be okay.
12:03:04 I think we need to take public comment now. so, and I see hands going up so a number of hands going up.
12:03:14 So we're gonna take public comments on the discussion about entering into at least between Jefferson County and Olycap for the casual brown village site. If you like.
12:03:29 Me to take the the lease down that'd be great Vicki.
12:03:36 You're gonna be first. your hand went up first so you have 3Â min for public comment.
12:03:42 Yes, Good morning, thank you for the work that's going into bringing in much needed resource to our counties housing options.
12:03:51 And my comment is kind of in a follow up to what kate's.
12:03:56 Question is with regard to references to code and Then there is item 31 in the document regarding rules and regulations where it says, in content consultation with the County
Holy Cap, She'll develop roles from
12:04:13 angularulations for people residing at the premises.
12:04:19 Not quite a site. quote there, but i'm still kind of confused where the intersection here is.
12:04:27 This sounds much more flexible. then abiding by what was recently codified in the temporary housing facilities. ordinance and there's also the question in my mind. once.
12:04:43 You you have the least with these permitted uses anywhere for emergency on through permanent supportive housing.
12:04:52 Do each of these get permitted in turn as they come online.
12:04:58 So at a at that time. Would they then be required to submit to the, or to conform with the call requirements.
12:05:10 So I guess it's kind of a little bit seems to me that there's there might be a kind of a at least
12:05:22 Not clarity full clarity within the the leases written in what documents?
12:05:29 Actually, determine what will be the final requirements in terms of operations and governance and the facilities.
12:05:38 So. thanks, thanks for your comment. vicki we'll take tom's comment.
12:05:43 Now, Tom, you're gonna need done mute you have 3Â min for public comment.
12:05:57 We can't hear you Tom sorry can you hear me now, yes, we can thank you.
12:06:05 I was looking at the the contract, the lease under Section 9 B, where it talks about additional rent, things that might be in addition to rent, and it says, you know, other
fees that would arise from oly caps activities.
12:06:19 But you know I think there are some other fees that might apply to the property.
12:06:24 This is this is the same thing that came up at the
12:06:27 The old Horse Park, where the Equestrian Association, under their operating agreement, had to pay things like the Fire protection, assessment, and the notches.
12:06:35 We to set assessment those miscellaneous fees which are taxes their fees?
12:06:40 So I don't know if those should be covered on this parcel or not, or if they should be included, I mean it's not a lot of money.
12:06:48 I just it. It was just a small detail, that caught my attention, because I know we didn't count it once before, and so that that was the the thing i'd like to maybe have explored,
and if necessary, added to to the agreement.
12:07:00 Thanks, thanks. thank you. Mr. Tears. Jeff Chapman, I see your hand up.
12:07:06 Thank you. Yeah. taking my assessor's hat off originally.
12:07:13 When we looked at acquiring this property we saw its advantage for the trail.
12:07:19 There are a couple of issues. one and of course greg's brought up is parking.
12:07:20 We. we originally are home, that we could put a more major parking area on this property jointly with the development of the of the village.
12:07:31 And one of the reasons for that is very limited.
12:07:34 Parking at the port. and you know, if and and so that we saw this as an option to basically the port for horse trailers and things like that.
12:07:44 If that could actually happen. and the other part is, I am the adopted trail person for this section.
12:07:49 So I maintain it, and there are 2 trails in this right away.
12:07:53 You know there's a main trail and there's a horse trail, and I bring equipment and brush it all the time.
12:07:59 So one of the things we hope to is that Buffer between the Highway and Mill Road and the trail would be under county control, so that we park in there all the time across from
Jacob Miller road there's.
12:08:11 A couple other access points in there. We wanted to straighten out that 90, that 180 degree bent looks to ninetys right there across from Jacob Miller, where it turns where
people have gotten hurt badly injured
12:08:26 that's that's in the plan to straighten out that that sharp corner.
12:08:33 Okay but it the county right away, as defined in this permit wouldn't wh is limited to how it is because it originally, when we acquired this, it had, you know, it was defined
what that right of way and that survey
12:08:44 should be limited. We also brush this whole area through here.
12:08:49 You know we we brushed outside of the regular county right away. so there's site distance, you know, you you get a lot of Scotch broom and and and and huckleberry and everything
else growing up so and and so it it requires a lot of
12:09:05 clearing. So I just was, you know, Originally, I think we were kind of hoping that the county would control from the trail to the roads, so that we had places we could park
to maintain this trail and bring our
12:09:16 equipment in to do it. Thank you. Thanks, Jeff.
12:09:23 Okay, it sounds like there are a number of additional things to consider.
12:09:29 Does anyone want to respond to any of the comments just made?
12:09:33 Great. Yeah. 2 to Vicky. I appreciate all the comments to Vicki's comment.
12:09:38 You know, there was Also we have to subscribe to the the lease that indicates that only Cap has to meet all Jefferson County code.
12:09:46 So the temporary housing ordinance all these more restrictive things in that Number 31 on there would still have to be met, and each subsequent development, if it happened,
would have to be permitted through DCD
12:09:58 and environmental public health as within the end of project. So I appreciate that concern.
12:10:01 But I think and correct me. if i'm wrong Phil but I think that is addressed in the lease pretty securely.
12:10:08 And, you know, love to include jeff chatman and the conversation we have in the next day, or so about, you know, if there's an additional carve out needed for appropriate maintenance
by volunteers of the of
12:10:20 the trail and leveling out occurs, and such. No need for corrections.
12:10:26 Commissioner. Okay. So you think that that that buffered area that's in the Comp. plan.
12:10:32 I know, too, is is protected within me, so they can park a car and and, still have access to the forested area between the road and the Larry Scott Trail easement.
12:10:43 So so the entire road wide right away is not part of the lease own property it doesn't it. you know it doesn't come all the way down to the trail.
12:10:55 You want to put the picture up again because it's probably easier to see if we do it.
12:11:00 That way
12:11:05 And also Mr. Tier's comment is worth looking at to see if there is any additional language needed about .
12:11:16 You want to have a preliminary discussion about that.
12:11:18 About, I mean, we can specifically say yes or no in the provision.
12:11:21 What is your you know what is the board's view on whether who should pay that if they're you know the our protection or not to suite assessments should that ?
12:11:38 Yeah. So So we can we can drag we can make a revision that requires that that's that's not difficult.
12:11:47 That sounds, and because this is publicly owned land. it property taxes will not be assessed.
12:11:57 But there's still the fees is it just those 2 fees.
12:12:02 I'm I think it already says all fees in the thing but i'm gonna go back and look Philip.
12:12:10 Did we address leasehold excise tax in here there's a 12 point, 8, 4% leasehold excise tax it's it's it's addressed But they say they don't have to pay because they're
12:12:23 a nonprofit. I just don't want to resolve that issue right?
12:12:27 Okay, So but we can go back and look at that just to make sure.
12:12:39 Yeah, I think
12:12:40 Yeah, I think that's included in additional rents but we can just we can try to make sure that'd be great.
12:12:49 Okay, so So I have up the diagram here and this is the right away.
12:12:58 Here it goes along the road right so we've the Red line, and what Jeff was saying is, I think he would prefer, or he thought the red line would come to the edge of the Larry
Scott trail to this side of Laura's got trail and
12:13:14 then it would. Basically, this would be the what would be the least premises, right?
12:13:22 So it wouldn't once you hit that the pink trail anything on the outside of that would not be least is what Jfson right?
12:13:33 So that's a discussion with oly cap whether that matters to them I don't know.
12:13:39 I mean in terms of the preservation language that we put in there for them at their request, it would still apply if the red. If this were the red line, say it went, you know,
up through here, even if it went over to here we're talking
12:13:54 about future parking spaces. I know that I mean because I sit in on the Peninsula trails, coalition board meetings.
12:14:04 I know that parking at the site is a major issue.
12:14:07 I mean it's something that I think we should definitely consider more parking for trail users.
12:14:17 So I will say this as a practical matter when You're talking about trail maintenance, and all that stuff that Jeff was talking about.
12:14:24 It would definitely simplify things if if it works for Olycap to make this the least premises right?
12:14:35 So. but that's a discussion with olycap we need to have.
12:14:40 I think yeah and so what's your what's what's the board's take on that, so we can know, and we talk to them.
12:14:51 I don't think olycat needs it and I I think Jeff makes a compelling argument that it's it's it's a strong support of the volunteer trail maintenance.
12:15:02 So i'd be in favor of Take an that buffer on the outside of the trail out of the lease agreement.
12:15:08 Okay, so I can talk to I can talk to Kevin and see if he can draw.
12:15:15 Basically, the way I would suggest is to draw the red line here. I don't know they they need a word how they would access it.
12:15:24 How do they get on their nail as through through that through that wide driveway right here? Yeah.
12:15:33 So so I would just you know move the red line to the inside of the Larry Scott trail and then, you know, i'd probably bring it all the way over here so that you have expansion
potential expansion, space for parking if they
12:15:49 don't need it. Yeah, and Greg is there a slope there down down, I think just the the area that you're defining there, Philip.
12:15:57 Isn't quite right, because it does there's a little valley that goes through there.
12:15:59 So I don't think it's practical to make a parking area down there.
12:16:02 But we could pretty quickly establish you know I mean it's like holy cap paid for the the road approach and the entry and everything.
12:16:09 But within that there might just, I mean, I could imagine that just putting the red line inside the trail, not extending it farther south on that, on the right, on the Mill
Road side, and also addressing parking in a different
12:16:23 way to say, you know, holy cap will work with it works or whatever to create a space for pop parking.
12:16:33 I I don't know if it could be a separate so so for simplicity's sake, if you you know we're getting what the terrain is.
12:16:44 If you just draw this line here and we're pretty sure that's gonna be enough, including the slope.
12:16:50 You go. I can sort of see the slope here you don't need any engineering for that.
12:16:56 If you're gonna decide where the line goes you need you could draw that line down, Philip, like you're proposing. and then and then parking would just fit the topography Yeah,
exactly that's that's
12:17:09 my point I know we caps not gonna care about the land inside that red line that they can't do anything with, anyway.
12:17:17 Yeah, so But if you want I mean I I get your point Commissioner, you know if this isn't useful for parking, who cares about the parking there?
12:17:25 But if I have to figure out where this line goes, I need help with that, and and also it may be to become such a valuable thing.
12:17:35 Maybe you would fill this in to get more parking at some point in the future.
12:17:39 I don't know. so i'm just trying to get to the final document a little faster without as much difficulty.
12:17:46 That's all I your point is definitely a valid point Yeah. And, Philip, you made the argument that subsequent to approval of this document.
12:17:53 We can easily amend it. Yeah, we can amend it if we want to.
12:17:59 But you know, and and we have a cooperative partner.
12:18:03 Sure but I you know I wouldn't want to be counting on an amendment for the shape of the least premises necessarily.
12:18:15 If we can avoid that, it's better to do it now you know when we break, i'm gonna drive over there and look at it.
12:18:23 Okay, Well, maybe you can stop by and ask sheriff on the way I think it's I think it's on the way, right?
12:18:34 Any more responses to any of the questions or comments that people made from other greater Kate.
12:18:46 Oh, I I just would maybe add in response to point, that you know, I think part of the we participate, there being different types of housing here.
12:18:58 And so in each of those might require different types of lines with different code.
12:19:04 So I I see the the value of leaving it fairly loose that we need to comply with all kind of code.
12:19:12 So. So my intention is to make oly cap responsible for all fees and and I think that's all it already says that.
12:19:22 But i'm gonna just double check it and then it's gonna say, including, but not limited to fire protection assessments and noxious wheat assessments
12:19:35 Okay, any more discussion on this item, or we can break and continue this discussion at 1 30 after our workshop with public works with one parks.
12:19:50 We'll do that first and then we'll continue the discussion on this item. and then we'll also do the proposed 12 temporary covid 19 policy discussion and public comment on both
those topics.
13:31:57 Thank you i'll bring over Matt I started av capture i'll go ahead and let's start on
13:32:17 Okay, Looks like we are live again. and i'm just gonna calls back to order, and for the benefits of folks who weren't here before lunch.
13:32:30 We will not be having a commissioner's meeting next Monday, the 20 ninth, cause it's a fifth Monday.
13:32:37 We will also not be having a meeting the following monday because it's Labor Day.
13:32:42 So our next Commissioner's meeting will be on Tuesday, September sixth, and that meeting will be a hybrid meeting, where we will be in the Chambers, and people can still join
us on zoom if they
13:32:56 choose that, but they can also join us in the commissioner's chambers.
13:33:00 Tuesday, september sixth we have a workshop in our agenda for now with with our parks Director Matt Tyler, who's Hi Matt, and then after that we're
13:33:15 gonna finish our discussion of the lease with all the cap for the casual brown village sites and take public comment on that item.
13:33:24 And then also do a discussion and potential action on an update to our covid, timeless, covid 19 policy.
13:33:35 So let's start off with you Matt what do you have for us
13:33:46 Great intersection. One of my favorite intersections in the county
13:33:58 You muted that
13:34:02 I try to share my screen. Can you see my presentation?
13:34:06 Yeah, we can see that your your desktop yeah we're on a different screen in your presentation.
13:34:12 It looks like, Okay, and I love that intersection Oh, that's what you're talking about.
13:34:20 Yeah, that's my favorite how many to share my right screen i'll i'll make it so either.
13:34:29 Stop sharing, and then you just restart again with the right screen, and then you should be able to see which one and choose which screen sure can
13:34:40 What's that perfect? Okay, So i'm here to talk that talk to you about the parks reckon open space comprehensive plan.
13:34:50 I want to thank everyone for giving you the chance to do this staff and elected officials.
13:34:55 I know you're extremely busy. I can tell by the nature of your agenda today, so i'll jump right into it.
13:35:01 I just have a short presentation. i've got plenty of time for open discussion.
13:35:05 Present.
13:35:15 This plan
13:35:16 This plan will be adopted by reference into the county.
13:35:21 The active transportation element and the parks recreation, an open space element.
13:35:28 All of us are familiar with the need for comprehensive planning The planning process for this plan was really helpful, and addressing both the short and the long term issues
in parts of the creation of trail public
13:35:42 outreach help maintain ongoing coordination.
13:35:45 There are many partners, such as the city of Port Townsend, nonprofits, trail organizations and advocacy.
13:35:52 Groups like jump. One of the most important aspects of this plan is that it keeps Jefferson County eligible for grants from the Rco.
13:36:01 Project, such as in 2,015. a new plan was built. From back.
13:36:11 At that time consultants were hired to facilitate public meetings, conduct a survey do analysis and write the plan, because most aspects, the 2050 are still valid plan. essentially
an update of the 25 the update was completed.
13:36:27 By the dedicated volunteers of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Report, who worked on this for 6 years.
13:36:34 Community involvement building and maintaining a capital improvement plan, evaluating correct programs and inspecting parks as part of annual parks tours, and finally, the large
volume of information and public input
13:36:49 pertaining to active transportation, such as the Ott and the port had locked.
13:36:55 Timothy nailed trail network was all tap into, for the a lot has changed since 2,015.
13:37:03 However, global climate change became very real. Last year, during the heat tone more county residents and non-county residents are using our parks use of our water, access
parks, cool and shady forests accounts has
13:37:19 increased erosion and flooding up water access parks like low rope, bay, and lagoon beach.
13:37:25 I mean I a pandemic, really fitness centers, schools, businesses, families, and key Yeah.
13:37:41 Outside into our part the demographics the community has evolved, necessitating new facilities and access improvements, planning and progress on active transfer for us a lot.
13:37:53 Economy and attitudes about government revenues have also changed.
13:37:58 All of these factors were considered in this revision specifically outdoor activities, such as walking, soccer, softball, pickle, ball, and bicycle riding, have all grown outdoor
spaces like playgrounds and
13:38:12 pump more important to children and families than ever. The demand for camping and the expectation of campers has construction and development, such as port, headlock, sewer,
long range planning for future parks, an iron male area there are
13:38:32 opportunities to create open source scenarios like the flood point at the Big Cursey River property near Chinnan Park.
13:38:44 Global climate change, and the need for exercise i've made active transportation trails more important than ever surveys consistently indicate that one and far the most common
and most popular recreational activities across the all kinds of
13:39:02 trails, regional facilities like that. Some local, multi-use trail like the Tri area, active training transportation network to non motorized single check trails and natural
settings, like kids like park and I am Indian Island
13:39:16 Park. The number one are a number one priority in general.
13:39:24 The Jefferson County Forestry program has been a huge success, and it should continue.
13:39:29 The programme resulted in safe, open forest, where visitors can see the sun reaching the forest, for healthy forests have been scientifically to human health.
13:39:36 Jefferson County parts, including Jeffrey Timigan Park.
13:39:42 It gives, like Park, or now much better off. Equal access in parks is one of the most important ways to address diversity, equity, and inclusion in Jefferson County, Ada.
13:39:54 Improvements in our parks, including parts, restrooms, playgrounds, buildings, or main priority.
13:40:00 Of this plan. Jefferson County parts became classrooms during the pandemic events.
13:40:05 Events are programs at all times moved outside facilities become component.
13:40:12 We looked up and fully utilized. There is a need for more outdoor event
13:40:20 A fundamental we're got ahead animation there
13:40:31 A fundamental message of this plan is that Jefferson County parts, important than ever.
13:40:37 According to 3 metrics, Park used triple between 2 2,009, and 2,021.
13:40:44 There can be no doubt that parks are vital to the health welfare of the entire.
13:40:49 You cannot
13:40:54 No longer discretionary 5 of our citizen citizens to plan and act sure sustainability.
13:41:04 Can you to adapt to change in room i'm just gonna go through these animations.
13:41:12 So how do they have them in there? Other outcomes that were true in 2015
13:41:20 Other outcomes that were true in 2,015 continue to be true in 2022.
13:41:26 One of the most important is understanding that parks and recreation can't do everything that we need continue to strategize and to lead coordinate.
13:41:36 There are many partners in volunteers to meet the needs of the community.
13:41:39 Another message at the point is that Jefferson County must save the facilities and programs that already has.
13:41:46 This message has been amplified by increased public expectations.
13:41:50 Without parks in 2022 county parks are not the you call it rural places with limited services and simple main that they were 10 years ago.
13:42:01 Rather expectations for maintenance and increase use level to Jefferson County.
13:42:05 Parks are now on par what you would see in a wealthy suburban area.
13:42:11 Jefferson County parks the call our dedicated professional maintenance every day.
13:42:17 We can never go back to this that occurred a great session.
13:42:21 You must maintain our parks and present
13:42:27 And finally, a basic policy of the plan is to continue, and the support of Jefferson County capital parks are recordreation.
13:42:40 Continue to enhance our part. We only have to look at the jump price and quality of our athletic fields and access improvements in process to see that Jefferson County, investing
in our parts at the combination of 6 years.
13:43:00 of words by the Jefferson County Parks and Recreation Advisory Board is summarized by this motion, recommending the plan for adoption by the Board account commissioners.
13:43:08 This is a great example of high quality. Grassroots, planning and governance.
13:43:13 Thanks everyone very much. The final slide is the next steps include Gavier.
13:43:20 Input today. i'd like to gather your input and integrate it into the final draft and followed by a public hearing and possible adoption by resolution on system That's all I
have for my presentation thanks matt
13:43:44 I mean to unshare. Yeah.
13:43:55 Next question: How? Maybe top of your screen, Red? Oh, there we go on screen
13:44:14 I'm i'm really excited about this this this work Matt.
13:44:16 I've i've been through this couple of times already, and just yeah, I think, yeah, strategic and incremental.
13:44:23 I think, are the key words Hi! great! I think that I have, I guess, a couple of questions.
13:44:36 And curious, the you know, back from when I was on the prosthetic advisory report, we were talking about the the need for some enthusiasm around developing more camping.
13:44:48 But I know that you know that's gonna require a lot of capital investment in order to do that.
13:44:55 What is you have any sense of what the the appetite is among the board, or amongst your colleagues at public works.
13:45:05 And looking at Eric some degree there. and then also, kind of the the performance.
13:45:11 Is that something that has the ability to to generate additional revenue?
13:45:15 Or is I know they some. Our camp existing backgrounds get that subsidized by Ltp.
13:45:22 Too. So just curious. kind of how how you are thinking about camping these days.
13:45:28 Developing a new campground would be a major major.
13:45:31 Capital expenditure, and also need for staff to do the project and maintain it up.
13:45:40 So I don't see that as being especially feasible. I do see an opportunity to continue to improve and maximize the use of Okay, no matter what we're doing everywhere.
13:45:52 Just internal small improvements.
13:45:58 Mad. I'm curious about the forestry piece and if you have any details on discussions.
13:46:04 You've had about that piece of the work relative to parks The details I've heard is that it's been such an incredible improvement just the experience of being in the forest
as a human being. right?
13:46:22 And they better set up dance start trees if you can't even see 60 and 2.
13:46:27 You now have open forests, you can see hundreds of feet.
13:46:30 You can see light comes the experience for people it's just much better.
13:46:37 I also know that the safety fire safety of our parks is less.
13:46:43 So much fuel was developing healthy 100 storing It's much likely that I have a major fire, cause we may have more opportunities to do that kind of work in the future.
13:47:00 Yeah, there's more work needed at at the and is is park use usage going up recently, like since I was on the marks board having needs to discuss or are we seeing a further increase
in the last year I haven't done another
13:47:24 round of measurements of metrics. just anecdotally. campground use is less than last year.
13:47:35 I believe it might be related to weather early on, and of course, gas prices.
13:47:39 And labor market last year might have been a banner here real Pete.
13:47:47 I can say that use of our davis parks has grown how much it's just anecdotally.
13:47:59 But the number of advances really, really high. On Saturday we had 4 events in our parts car show the All county picnic the family reunification event, and a major family union
just as example of the offensive going on
13:48:14 like their beach parks or and how were things on the Fourth of July?
13:48:20 Because I went down to iron. Ill beach and it seemed like they weren't even paying any attention to those signs.
13:48:25 Did you have any any reports as success from what from the efforts of increasing education about and not being a okay for people to light up fire fireworks and county parks.
13:48:39 I mean we've done everything we can with Park design and signs. The rest is up to enforcement and policy about fireworks.
13:48:48 We did work with fishing wildlife as well get them to.
13:48:51 So the rules are clear and try to get them to, especially the only thing I noticed on the slide show was on Slide 7.
13:49:05 You talk about the land bank. Do you mean the land? Trust?
13:49:11 No mind right. I just use land bank as a term to main holding property for future use, holding it as passive open space.
13:49:23 That people can use passively now, but maybe use for a power at a later time.
13:49:29 Okay, those were my questions, Greg. Did you have any
13:49:44 So I have a question. i'm curious matt do you feel like you're a a stable staffing situation.
13:49:52 Yeah, it's been really hard. like everyone else. it's hard to hire, and people are shopping for jobs we've hired, and also had people we've you know, been in 3 months of being
hired because we get better
13:50:04 off. However, now we are really fortunate with course staff, and with 2 additional not one replacement, one new, full time maintenance.
13:50:16 People that are really solid, and we have interviews for seasonal coming up.
13:50:22 It's been a challenge
13:50:26 Memorial field looks good even with Andre gone where we just Andrea, though.
13:50:33 Yeah.
13:50:39 Any other questions or comments from Matt I don't think we have to take action on this item.
13:50:45 We did have public comment. let's hear so if there are no more questions for Matt.
13:50:56 I entertain opening this up for public comment. if it is on with us here on zoom.
13:51:03 I don't see any phone call. phone numbers. you can use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen, and we will bring you over in the order that the hands go up.
13:51:17 I see one hand has gone up
13:51:25 Afternoon, Gene, you're gonna need to unmute
13:51:32 How's that? that's good Yep 3Â min my dear for public comment?
13:51:37 Good afternoon, Commissioners. You probably could anticipate my comments.
13:51:42 I'd like to issue a majority of report because I certainly have not mind already in this opinion, that the works are invaluable.
13:51:51 2 be afforded the opportunity to spend time in the forest to recharge your batteries and to
13:52:00 Get your head straight, maybe is a tremendous asset, and being a resident of Jefferson County, and having the abundance of the natural beauty and the connection to the the forest,
and the natural world just maybe a skewed view
13:52:20 of what the rest of the world looks like and it's wonderful to be able to share that with people who travel here to help our trees and walk our shores and recreate in our parks.
13:52:34 So I think that it is of critical importance. that we support these actions and the expansions. and where I go.
13:52:43 I've spent a lot of time in a lot of parks, and everywhere I go Sentiment is we need more.
13:52:52 We need more spaces to camp and more places to recreate in the natural world.
13:52:56 So I feel birthday to have these opportunities in Jefferson County.
13:53:02 Thank you, Jane. Is there anybody else who's what this is after doing on the attendee list who would like to come over and make a public public comment about our parks regulation
open space and trails comprehensive
13:53:17 plan. If so, you can use the raise hand button at the bottom of the zoom screen.
13:53:24 Good afternoon, Tom. You have 3Â min for public comment. Once you unmute
13:53:35 Here we are. just reflecting on the previous comment. Yeah.
13:53:42 The parks are, in fact, an invaluable asset to the county.
13:53:47 But I would say that Matt Tyler is the invaluable asset.
13:53:51 His leadership is ongoing commitment to making Jefferson County parks great.
13:53:56 It cannot be underestimated, and I just want to thank him personally.
13:54:01 Thank you you're here you're here I see karen's asking if
13:54:19 Bern wants to come over as he's on the parks board right?
13:54:22 Yeah, Matt Taller had asked if vern wish to speak and he's raising his hand. so i'll bring him over as panelist.
13:54:31 Okay, there's anybody else who's with us on the Attendee list and wants to make a comment on this discussion about our beloved county parks and our beloved county park director,
Matt tyler You can use the raise
13:54:46 hand button on the bottom of your zoom screen burn you'll need to unmute.
13:54:52 There you go, hi, hi! I just would like to say thank you for inviting me.
13:54:59 I would like to say that we've had a chance to review the
13:55:07 The document. That man mad, and his staff have prepared and we think it's outstanding.
13:55:11 We agree that there's a important need for additional athletic fields, cap, browns, and trails. among other things, and we would, we intend to work toward helping full full
these deficiencies, We have a great
13:55:28 parks. We We have a wonderful number of parks and a program.
13:55:37 Matt is instrumentally making this happen, and
13:55:42 We simply would, will be working toward improving our parks in the future.
13:55:45 So. so. thank you very much. Thanks for your work, Vern.
13:55:50 Do you appreciate you joining us today, and all the work you do?
13:55:53 Thank you. Anybody else like to come out n seeing any other hands go up.
13:56:04 Eric, Is there anything you want to say? No, I
13:56:10 And Matt, I appreciate him taking on the plan giving it a major refresh.
13:56:16 We've reviewed it internally and you know in in incorporates a lot of the elements that were not previously so.
13:56:24 I think it it's a it's a good plan to have it satisfies the Rco.
13:56:28 And no, that's it thank you yeah well thanks you guys great one question.
13:56:36 Just knowing how much work the city is doing right now.
13:56:42 And you know, kind of strategic planning around some of their parts and open space programs.
13:56:46 And I I was glad you called out in a partnership strategic partnerships in your slides, Matt.
13:56:53 But can you talk about how like in through this the pros process?
13:56:58 Are you required to do some questions with the city and I know you've been, you know, getting to know carry and working with her.
13:57:06 And that's great But is is there required alignment like we have with other comp comprehensive planning that we do in the county.
13:57:16 Or how? How do you see kind of us fitting in with their planning process?
13:57:22 And it it is required, and very much important.
13:57:27 I mean with staff almost every level, putting the 2 new managers and director that they have, and we also invited them to present at the parts and recognize reward which is,
really be part of it.
13:57:46 A lot of their strategy doesn't necessarily interact with the the big strategic issues doesn't necessarily interface There are important areas like North Beach.
13:57:59 That result of it partnership up and rebuild when they do the new outfall sewer outfall.
13:58:08 That's a good chance to rebuild the park.
13:58:12 How we like it maybe improve it or not and it's also awesome.
13:58:18 We might ask again if the city is interested in owning it as a city part.
13:58:25 But we also talked about correct programs, as well we need to make sure we're enhancing each other's direct programs and cooperating absolutely 100% cooperation on every level
for the direct programs
13:58:41 Yeah, I know We're working right now on transferring some trust land transfer lease properties that were owned by Dnr.
13:58:54 And are now under least by the county, and transferring those to the county for ownership. and the 2 of the parcels are in the clever, wildlife corridor just kind of west of
the city.
13:59:09 Limits. I think the city limits are around Cook Avenue on our Cook Avenue area.
13:59:15 So, anyway, it might be good at some point or maybe You're already. having these conversations of talking about that kind of trail planning that we could extend into those properties
to the West in the future this is not a short this is not a
13:59:31 front burner thing, but it's something I see probably a need for in the future, as more people become aware of those properties and may be interested in using them, and the
land trust i'm sure would be a valuable partner in
13:59:46 that effort in the future. Very good point you can connect on the Now we call the Dump Loop. all the way to Larry's got trail and trail at Park.
14:00:00 Used to be called the Library week, to Trail Head Park and to Larry Scott Trail.
14:00:06 So? Anything else, Ladies and gentlemen? No.
14:00:17 Okay, well, it's keep loving our parts thank you thank you very much.
14:00:27 Appreciate it. Thanks, Eric.
14:00:33 Okay, Are we gonna bring Philip back over for talking about the lease with all the cap
14:00:45 Thank you. Yeah.
14:00:56 So earlier Today, when we were having this conversation, we left this conversation.
14:01:00 We were trying to get to whether we were going to
14:01:05 Give Mark authority to finalize this lease. with oly cap for the casual brown village site and And we took some public comment.
14:01:23 Had some time to respond, but didn't have time to finish that conversation.
14:01:28 So. Philip, you have the zoom screen open on your
14:01:34 Or is that you mark who are you sure Oh, that's me that's okay.
14:01:37 Yeah, I I I visited the site over the lunch hour and took a couple of photographs.
14:01:43 It'll help the board understand some of the issues We're talking about related to the lease, especially as it relates to the Larry Scott trail and parking Phillips Zoom screen
is blocking the picture right
14:01:54 Now, yeah, it is
14:02:00 There we go. Well, I just put it up. We got your zoom screen again back into a different monitor.
14:02:11 Okay, I will
14:02:18 Stop you from sharing, so you can reshare. Thank you.
14:02:30 Okay, Alright, so is it Okay, if I speak to these photos, though, I was hoping you would.
14:02:38 So that's my car there I should have maybe parked it elsewhere.
14:02:44 But that's the entrance to the casual brown site, and on the right is the the site where people are located.
14:02:52 Now, and to the left there's a fork that that goes, I think, towards the southwest, for the more permanent site, and I paced off from the right edge of that entrance to the
left edge, and and I
14:03:09 counted. I took big steps. and there were 13 steps so i'm estimating that's 70 feet wide, and on the left side, near my car.
14:03:17 You can see there's some concrete chunks there that prevent travel in either direction.
14:03:24 There unless you want to mess up your car, and and so that entrance is wide enough to do a couple things.
14:03:33 Number one on the left side you could put, I I think, up to 10 parking spots there.
14:03:41 Heading to the west, and on the right side you can see the the fence there that borders the Larry Scott trail. and so if you could scroll to the photo of of of the trail
14:04:02 Hello, are you there, Yeah, i'm here? i'm scrolling which which one is it?
14:04:07 Well, it's defense you just see the yeah.
14:04:13 Nothing's happening on your screen and philip just letting you know that we can see the rest of your email screen.
14:04:18 I don't know if you want to just click on the picture to enlarge
14:04:30 Okay, can you see that? yeah, there we go Okay, So that's the Larry Scott trail.
14:04:40 And then over here on the left side that's where It you know it comes down, and then it it makes pretty much a 90 degree turn there, and previously I had walked this with Eric
Kuzma and talked about taking the
14:04:54 trail, and having it more gradually, turn and take up some of this entrance and reigning where the trail would join across Mill Road to the other side.
14:05:09 And I I you know, I don't know how a 90 degree turn if you're taking it at speed will frequently result in people hitting this fence or or dropping the bicycle in in in hopes
of avoiding.
14:05:22 Hitting the fence but if you were to straighten that out 1015 degrees I think it would become a much safer trail, and and Eric said that they'd be willing to do that work, and
so then you know
14:05:38 the the trail would then I don't know you know it might realign to to somewhere in here.
14:05:46 And then, if you were to make parking on this side, you would still have 30 35 feet of entryway for people coming and going to the village down here.
14:06:03 And then, earlier, we talked about drawing a line from the entrance down.
14:06:10 I think it's to the south and and you know I mentioned that that piece of land was heavily forested, and it slopes, and so they're the trees that are there.
14:06:23 So if you wanted to make this parking I don't know who would bear the cost of cutting all these trees down and leveling the ground, and that sort of thing.
14:06:31 But it. it would be a significant effort and then I walked in a little bit, you know, about 60 feet in to the site.
14:06:42 There's a pretty dramatic drop off here to the South and the closer you get to mill road the less dramatic the drop off.
14:06:53 But it's it's still significant and if you wanted it to be level.
14:06:57 You would need massive amounts of fill, and so I I think the solution would be to designate.
14:07:06 Some of this is parking along the entryway. and then maybe carve out some space over here for the trail, and there's still room for the road there as well.
14:07:22 Yes, you would still have an entry way. that would be 30 feet wide, so you could.
14:07:29 You could bring in semi trucks. you could you know bring in armored vehicles.
14:07:35 There'd be plenty of room. Okay, okay, yeah when you know I don't. I?
14:07:43 I doubt this was intentional, but there is a benefit of that 90 degree.
14:07:47 Turn i'm the trail there, which is it makes people slow down before they come to an uncontrollable intersection of the trail with the with no route there, and you know, having
having bikes the trail a lot
14:08:03 I had wondered if that's intentional That's true right before the trail process discovery between Green Greenway and discovery.
14:08:12 And you know I don't know if that's associated with any additional kind of safety.
14:08:20 But put it, yeah, I guess have you talked about that at all marked with public works.
14:08:25 If that's a intentional designs people don't get a lot of speed, and that there is that is downhill there too.
14:08:32 So and and I you know i'm not making any value judgments myself
14:08:44 Gee whiz I don't know what that was I came from Kate.
14:08:47 I think so. i'm muted kate so i'm not sure it will happen again.
14:08:50 Yeah, like I was saying, I'm not making any value judgments about the trail and the angle of that curve.
14:08:55 I. You know Jeff Chapman has mentioned it, and I I think the public works folks.
14:09:02 They probably know more about the history of of that 90 to return, and how often people crash and burn there.
14:09:10 So whether we change the angle of that curve or not you know it's for smarter people than needed to decide.
14:09:20 But I do think this is a solution for parking and you know they? if I i'm not sure it would accommodate horse trailers.
14:09:29 But there are other places where you can take your horse to get on the trail.
14:09:36 Thank you I didn't hear that loud noise by the way so I don't know that it came from here
14:09:46 Yeah, i'm not sure where it came from so How do we wanna navigate this discussion going forward. We have.
14:09:52 We've had a robust discussion about the the site planning for the property.
14:09:57 I feel like, Do we need to do more work on that before we consider No, no, I don't think so.
14:10:08 If you go back to what we were talking about earlier.
14:10:12 Oh, more or can you stop sharing? I can show you
14:10:27 Let's see here. Okay, Okay, So can you see the the the lease.
14:10:36 So this is the area that we were just talking about I don't know.
14:10:42 So that's what the trail stops right where that fences, I guess right here.
14:10:49 Yeah, Mark. Yeah. And so we're talking about you know some space over here.
14:11:00 You said 70 feet from here this way? Yeah. 70 70 70 feet that way from the fence line. Okay?
14:11:05 So where is 70 feet on this? Well, number number One.
14:11:14 That pink line is pretty wide but if that's right away for the trail.
14:11:20 It. Maybe it's accurate but I don't know. So what we were talking about before was just eliminating the the the the guestimation and just bringing the line all the way over
here yeah, So
14:11:38 that won't impinge on only cap's ability to to provide the services we're expecting them to provide.
14:11:46 So. here is my beautiful markup with with black magic marker.
14:11:54 What just to smooth out the edge here and Jeff, me an email.
14:12:00 Actually after I drew this, but I agreed with them, saying we should make this The this should be the new red line up here.
14:12:11 Yeah, essentially, what that would do, Philip, is it when the entrance for this you know, the what I took the photograph of would would then be county, and then we could designate
parking at our our desire plus plus an eement, for access
14:12:28 apple road, though. Right? Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah the the right that's right.
14:12:38 So there. So this is, and I already sent this to cherish, and and the Kevin.
14:12:46 What what this does is it allows us to realign the trail without.
14:12:53 I mean that that land there where the trail would would be re-oriented would not be oly caps under the lease, so we could realign the trail on our own without.
14:13:05 I mean we'd certainly want public cap to know what we're doing. but it wouldn't require any legal you know negotiations or anything, and then we can designate parking.
14:13:14 So I think this is a a fairly elegant solution.
14:13:19 Yeah, it makes sense to me. Greg, do you have any feedback on this? I I think it looks yeah.
14:13:26 I think it looks real right to me my one question from mark It's pretty easy to kind of gauge that 90 degree turn as the edge of this potential expanded area that we're holding
onto and that's not
14:13:41 enough room for 10 cars, is it? Do you know how much, how how far was until the bend?
14:13:52 Well, the Co. well, let me hang on a second. Let me just call it.
14:13:58 Do you wanna share back? Yeah, i'm gonna bring bring my screen back up.
14:14:01 Hello!
14:14:10 So is that visible? Yeah. Okay. So from my car headed in, you know, if you follow the cursor, this one, the parking would be over here and just visualize a car like mine right
next to me and then another, one and
14:14:31 another one. so there might be room in there. Yeah. so that I think that makes sense.
14:14:36 Straight lines are always easiest. so it looks like there's room for you know at least 8 cars. there.
14:14:42 I think that's that's reasonable yeah we can stripe them.
14:14:47 So they all have to be compacts. No, just kidding
14:14:54 Okay, so are we done with this discussion about? I I think we all agree with Phillips Sharpie drying.
14:15:05 Yeah, yes, it it's an elegant charpie drawing. Okay.
14:15:13 So what? So now we need to return to the discussion.
14:15:18 We were having about giving Mark the authority to Excuse me, so let me text right now.
14:15:29 Giving mark. The authority to Penn is finalized.
14:15:33 This this lease, and Phillips absence, or before before our next voc meeting.
14:15:40 Do we? We did come to a final spot with that discussion.
14:15:48 So how do people feel about that
14:15:54 Philip. I have an emailing cherish about this stuff.
14:16:00 And here she just wrote me back because you wanted to know this whether cutting it till the 6 would be okay.
14:16:07 She says, Yes, but that would be cutting the line per our developer.
14:16:11 Thank you. Cutting a line per developer how late they could get it and still get their stuff together.
14:16:26 And next thing we don't have philip to kind of put eyes on this, anyway.
14:16:30 So it if we don't get it done this week and finalized.
14:16:33 It's challenge. I think it it it increases our risk So what are the potential?
14:16:40 You know I mean other than this discussion about the trail easement or trail.
14:16:47 You know the property, configuration and ability for the trail to do what it needs to do on the site.
14:16:54 What other areas are potential shifts or changes that might happen.
14:16:58 And the 25 page draft that philip shared with us this morning. It doesn't feel like there are very many places where we had questions or concerns.
14:17:13 That's a question. are there it didn't seem Well, it didn't seem so so, for all good with Phillips.
14:17:20 Proposed floor plan site plan then are we good with the few changes I think that in this graph that only Cap haven't signed off on that aren't really substantive.
14:17:35 But they could come back wanting to tweak something. Is that how you characterize the phone?
14:17:40 Yes, exactly. We schedule a brief special meeting on sometime on Friday.
14:17:49 So give the most time for Olycap and Phil to finalize this.
14:17:53 But, like I said I, I do think is the nature of this project? that there's some symbolic value, and the Commissioners approving the least.
14:18:04 Are you talking about this? Friday, So Olycap has their weekly meeting on Thursday at 1030, and I told Cherish we need to know no later than Thursday.
14:18:18 Close the business. this is I have up now the truly elegant drawing.
14:18:26 Kevin has already fixed it for us to awesome.
14:18:32 No more elegant than yours, Philip? it's just a different medium.
14:18:36 Do we want to circle up on friday morning and just check in about charges weekly meeting, and see if there's anything that we need to review from that, and then give final approval
for
14:18:50 Thank you if if we're gonna have a board discussion but it's.
14:18:55 But It's Monday. and i'm talking about Friday morning, right schedule a special meeting for Friday, right, mark right.
14:19:07 I'm talking about Friday Okay, Okay, does that is that what folks wanna do sounds good to me.
14:19:21 Like 9 o'clock, 9 30 friday morning is everyone available.
14:19:27 I am. I have a long standing doctor's appointment at 10, so I would prefer to do 9.
14:19:33 Okay, fine works for me or 8 30 works for me whatever other one, and we'll need to do public comments take action.
14:19:43 Okay, and our super duper clerk will make that happen.
14:19:58 9 o'clock, and we're thinking in half an hour or a long half an hour.
14:20:03 Kate is a doctor's appointment. at 10 so we can't go longer than half an hour.
14:20:09 Okay, Thank you. Thanks. Okay. So that feels like we're resolved on this agenda item. Correct?
14:20:21 Yeah, sounds like it, so we can ring Sarah over and talk about the twelfth temporary covid policy.
14:20:28 Philip can just hang tight right? Okay, bringing Sarah over
14:20:38 Sarah and user. Oh, there she goes so this item came up when we decided we were interested in going back to hybrid meetings, and we needed to review our covid policy again,
and Who's gonna talk us through the
14:20:58 changes that were made. Philip is that you or I think it's me carrying on for Friday.
14:21:06 But i'm i'm happy to give the gavel, if you will, to Sarah, she wants to take it away.
14:21:16 Philip, i'm here alright Carolyn, did you need something?
14:21:27 I saw your screen light up. No? Oh, no. I was just typing.
14:21:30 Okay, Whoever sharing the screen other thank you How's that?
14:21:36 Everybody see it? Okay, Okay. So we talked we talked about making some changes last week to this policy.
14:21:48 We had a draft that we discussed in covid coordination meeting, led by Kate on Friday, and what I'm showing you now is mostly that starting with?
14:22:02 And really there are 3 areas of change the first 2.
14:22:09 I just hated them in gray so I could find them faster.
14:22:13 The first 2 relate to the the opma issue related to board accounting competition's meetings and it just, they both relate to essentially deleting the reference to the to the
health departments
14:22:37 dial. Yes, thank you. Dial And so so this is just the change in the whereas and this is the change in the in the actual provision and
14:22:51 The only thing that, aside from deleting it, the only thing that I added was was this: here which we modified at the by consensus, set them at the meeting on Friday.
14:23:07 To make make it clear who makes the determination. So the board accounting commissioners and concentration with the health officer is, is what what the suggested add is, Kate
is, Do you have a question about this You have your
14:23:23 hand which I am looking now to see if we incorporated it.
14:23:31 But the Dr. Barry rescinded August third.
14:23:38 The prohibition on in person meetings and I'm. I didn't have a chance to read you this carefully again to see if that was included in the whereas is or seems a relevant point
to
14:23:52 Include: Okay.
14:24:01 Oh, Did you receive that to shin it's a recession?
14:24:10 Precision, decision. I I may have. I just emailed it to you again.
14:24:19 Okay, So we might wanna include that sure trying to add that Now, August third
14:24:52 And it was from the public health order, dated April 2620, 21, which prohibited indoor meetings, public meetings, April 20, sixth, 2021.
14:25:09 It was the health order that prohibited indoor public meetings.
14:25:15 And then, like April august 2022 rescinded that's and I.
14:25:21 It's in your email. I want to take a look at it or I can share my screen.
14:25:30 No, it's fine i'll just trying to get it down while well, I was thinking about it
14:25:53 I think the language gets it.
14:26:00 That look right, Kate. I think in person maybe public meetings that that that's what the the order States
14:26:19 How's that that's good
14:26:28 Okay, so that covers the the opa change and then
14:26:46 This change in B to b big B. 2 little B is designed to reflect the change in Cdc guidance, and with the assistance of Dr.
14:27:05 Barry who wrote an email on this and the and a vigorous discussion on Friday.
14:27:15 This is what we came up with. for consensus language.
14:27:20 I. We had highlighted on Friday the the language there in yellow that says, If the employee tests negative on an antigen test, we probably talked about that for 40 or 45Â min
Friday trying to get to
14:27:40 a consensus. it's no longer required or if you comply with the Cdc.
14:27:46 Guidelines it's no longer required in Dr.
14:27:48 Barry's comfortable with taking it out so That's the language discussion.
14:27:58 You guys want to discuss it. Or maybe you want to take the lead on on the to discussion.
14:28:05 Kate. Yeah. So you know as as usual our there's a a broad range of opinions.
14:28:13 Among our departments of, you know, do we do kind of the minimum?
14:28:18 And in our policy include the minimum, which is, you know, kind of the the The Cdc.
14:28:23 Is suggesting or we have the authority to to have stronger guidance that are policy in place.
14:28:35 So we tried to strike a balance here of saying that. but departments can assess the risk. You know.
14:28:41 They might have folks, you know, vulnerable folks working there.
14:28:44 Older folks. in really close indoor work quarters.
14:28:47 So that just gives departments the ability to decide whether they wish to require a negative test.
14:28:53 To return to work before 10 days, or have folks isolate for 10 days.
14:28:59 But the the face policy is that they do not need to
14:29:11 That was generally agreed upon.
14:29:18 It makes sense to me. it's really hard so things through the hypotheticals here, having not had to go through this myself.
14:29:27 But you know, mask for 5 additional days. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense to me.
14:29:36 Does that make sense to you, Greg: Yep: makes good sense to me.
14:29:43 And Sarah. Yes, it it makes sense to me I just had a there's just like days with put in there twice.
14:29:52 So deletion of one of the days the mess mask for 5 days, and then I, that it says additional days
14:30:08 For 5 additional days. So so I know the the line below that one right?
14:30:17 I'm just this is the whole sentence it's hard to read with the red lining
14:30:29 So, but must mask for 5 days additional days, if oh, got it!
14:30:36 I got it now. Thank you. see, Sarah knows this because she did it last time.
14:30:45 Doing The thing on on the fly is a lot harder than it looks.
14:30:48 Yeah. and then also just another grammar thing.
14:30:55 Sorry on page 4. it says the resolution would be a a page 4 number 5.
14:31:03 The resolution would be effective at 12 o one on September 20, third, on August.
14:31:09 No you're right
14:31:18 Today, right? Yup. how's that that's already passed yeah, good point.
14:31:39 Okay, alright, Anything else. Team: Oh, here we go yeah there's another section.
14:31:46 So So we're good on this Okay, now, the hard one's coming.
14:31:54 There's a typo here we fixed that's not the hard one.
14:32:01 The one the one we just discussed probably most of the rest of the time was this temporary paid administrative leave enhancement, and this was Sarah's point.
14:32:14 She couldn't be there, on friday, but there you know Apparently there's some confusion despite the language about whether this is an annual thing, or whether it's a per employment
thing.
14:32:28 So So we talked about this on Friday, and ended up adding this language:
14:32:35 But then people were concerned. Is that too conservative and so, we had a robust discussion about about possibly you know, adding some extra for people who couldn't remotely
work.
14:32:57 And so we came up with this compromise language that that stops before you get to the yellow highlighting.
14:33:05 The yellow highlighting is just a a comment we got from Renee Tally about how to make it clear that it starts that that new would benefit would start today.
14:33:17 So there's no confusion about it but that's a proposal that I think was a consensus proposal from the group who was on the on the county coordination meeting on Friday.
14:33:35 And So this, you know, requires the employee, who cannot work remotely to request that leave from their department director and for the department director to approve it.
14:33:46 So you know, get through and give departments the tools they need, but also the authority to decide what you know what it works best for their work situation.
14:33:58 And you know, distribute that fairly. It makes sense.
14:34:04 Has there been any occurrences of needing an additional?
14:34:08 I mean somebody getting covid twice or yeah and it's often.
14:34:14 The kids who you have to stay home because of Covid.
14:34:17 And yeah, there were a number of department set examples of employees that had would benefit from additional leave.
14:34:24 Which Yeah, we Won't do retroact Well, we should discuss Renee's suggestion of starting it from today versus retroactive.
14:34:32 But yes, it sounds like there's an appetite for this.
14:34:39 Well, I agree with the sentiment of giving departments the flexibility they need, I mean, they know best and individual.
14:34:47 You know employees don't best what they need so it makes this makes sense to me
14:34:57 And another instances of us adapting to the pandemic.
14:35:01 Here we go. It seems reasonable at this point It's at least the twelfth time
14:35:11 So I just to plug for renee's comment basically she said, It'll be an accounting nightmare if we don't start it today. if we make it retroactive.
14:35:23 Yeah, And I think, in addition to that it's it's also how challenging it would be for department head to make decisions based on employees stories coming, you know, 8 months
later than once something happened.
14:35:42 Or so I I think it's a really great addition to have it starting today.
14:35:52 Yeah, I agree. I can hear. and you know, to the some nervousness around beginning of school year.
14:36:01 And will that mean another spike in cases it's well timed for that, too.
14:36:13 Okay that wasn't that wasn't as hard as Philip that it was gonna be.
14:36:19 It was hard to get to that place, though. Well, well, you did all the hard work.
14:36:23 Nice work people carrying the water that's it that I believe that's all of it. hey?
14:36:35 Any more discussion on the side and needed. This is all just paving the way for us to be together again.
14:36:42 So I'm antsy about It I want to being little little little Covid Commissioner.
14:36:52 Okay, So there's a public you need to take public comment on this item.
14:36:59 I know Carolyn i'm for getting less and less aren't.
14:37:02 I Yeah, So if there's anybody who's joined us on the attendee list this afternoon.
14:37:14 Looks like it's jean ball who's not staff or or the press.
14:37:22 Who would like to ask a question or make a public comment.
14:37:25 Please use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen.
14:37:30 Nobody's on the phone. Anybody on the attendee list wishing to make a public comment on this update to our Covid policy, not saying any hands go up.
14:37:50 Okay, and a close public comment on this item. People, of course, can send us comments by email.
14:37:59 And you all know how to do that. so would somebody like to make a motion.
14:38:07 Sure i'll make a motion to dots a twelfth temporary Covid policy, based on emergency response to the Covid 19 pandemic with the addition of one whereas statement as discussed
14:38:21 today on fit second to Greg Seconds. I saw that hand go up all in favor bye.
14:38:33 Okay, see? on the sixth. Thank you, Everyone for your work on this.
14:38:40 Thanks. So yeah, you're welcome bye everybody bye bye okay.
14:38:50 So that's the end of our specific agenda items other than our review of words and committees, and we can also do count our calendar if we want what do you wanna do first what's
your pleasure friends what's.
14:39:06 Let's hit the board of committees so there's an attachment link to the agenda, and it's basically just a listing of the boards and committees with the ones that have
14:39:19 vacancies marked in red. you want me to share it.
14:39:27 I can do that so people can see it. I should do that.
14:39:32 I can share it, too, if you want to get it up it's kind of hard to do multiple things at once.
14:39:41 Sometimes. Okay, so if you look at this list we're doing really good on a lot of our boards and committees.
14:39:50 There's a bunch of openings on the conservation features oversight committee and tammy is advertising those, but just to be heads up that there's to open interest leads open
climate change
14:40:10 seat from District one and a citizen seat from District 3.
14:40:16 So, Kate, work your climate, change chops, Greg, work your citizens chops, and we all need to think about open interest seats.
14:40:26 The next one that has a openc vacancy is the Fairy advisory committee, and there's a conference seed open on that committee.
14:40:37 What does that mean? Probably from business? means a
14:40:46 A business could look on the homepage. our home page.
14:40:47 We have it listed it's yeah say business that is dependent on that ferry.
14:40:54 So could be that they receive supplies or employees that commute or fairly broadly construed.
14:41:05 Course. Yeah, let's see? I thought I had someone for that but I don't think they're the appropriate person for see that portion?
14:41:18 Do we want to brainstorm together here, or do you want to just do this as homework?
14:41:24 I think it makes good homework. i've been working on a couple of these.
14:41:27 Okay, the next one that's got a vacancy on it is the leaf retirement disability board, and that, honestly, is one I know very little about.
14:41:35 So I would love someone to fill me, in on you know it's for those law enforcement and fire pensions that came before the per is one and 2 program, and in case there's a few
it's having once in the
14:41:53 3 years that i've been on it that we would have a meeting to approve or decline a claim from one of these.
14:42:04 Oh, you know whole law enforcement and fire people that have this older per system, and it's it's a very small cohort.
14:42:12 So usually the community members that have been on it have also been involved in the they've been in the law enforcement or fire.
14:42:21 From that previous time. So the only one that i've done actually another member on the board had to recuse himself, because it was his work that was being approved.
14:42:29 That's a tough one to fill and we we meet once a year.
14:42:35 Okay, So but we're looking for it could be a citizen at large.
14:42:44 But it should be somebody maybe familiar with with one of those agencies higher.
14:42:52 Yeah or Okay, The next one is the noxious suite board which we've talked about a number of times.
14:43:01 I got some more letters in i'm applying for just C. 4, and in district 4 of the noxious reboard and
14:43:07 I've been trying to get someone from district 5 to apply as well.
14:43:15 Okay, So we have. And then District 3 is Port Towns end.
14:43:21 How we just filled out. Well, that was Sarah Fairbank.
14:43:25 Oh, well, it was all on Trenches Seat is still 3.
14:43:28 Where does he live? I don't know where he lives I need to look at?
14:43:34 Okay, you're right district 3 voting precincts they're all the 300 and the 500.
14:43:43 So port love low. Yeah, for District 3 and then you're working on District 4, and then District 5 is spreading and quilting, and the West End.
14:43:57 So, However, I can help Greg i'm i'm working on this one having an office, we director will help.
14:44:06 So we did do interviews and I haven't had an update.
14:44:13 But we did 4 interviews so we all came to consensus on our top candidate, and so I don't know where we're at on it.
14:44:22 But I'm hopeful, So that should be should soon and then our our 2 see that board members. Sarah Fairbank and Christine Hika both participated in the interviews, which is great.
14:44:42 Yeah. Okay, So noxious weeds got it under control.
14:44:47 There's an olympic area on agent agents Olympic area and agents aging.
14:44:54 Sorry the 2 seats are open. caroline is advertising Those Julie has a note here.
14:45:00 There's 2 parks and wreck openings and in districts one and 3.
14:45:05 So Kate and Greg, each have one Matt advertising both of those Peninsula housing authority.
14:45:13 There's a one vacancy on that was Phil that'll come in front of us in a little bitter.
14:45:26 Oh, okay, great to admit great. And then piff has a vacancies and districts 2 and 3.
14:45:31 So i've got to work on that and i've got a couple of folks in mind.
14:45:35 I got a couple of folks in mind for district 3 2 so we've talked a little bit about having a pift Board meeting this year.
14:45:44 I mean the the one project that it's the the port? Pud: Yeah, the Jim's gateway project. Yeah.
14:46:01 Sims Gateway : Organization Project there. Yeah. That that was supposed to be largely completed by now.
14:46:03 But you know that challenges they've had yeah so We've been kind of waiting for that to get wrapped up before having another meeting that we might go ahead and have one soon.
14:46:16 There's been some interest in that so those are our vacancies, and it's they're all on the website.
14:46:23 So I just like to go over them once a month, so we keep them on the this not simmering on a back burner at least.
14:46:33 Who wants to look at their calendar for the week for next couple weeks?
14:46:41 Whatever whatever you please I can do it let's see
14:46:49 Tomorrow. we have a couple of small meetings with folks and think we're celebrating some staff tomorrow before that Wednesday meeting with someone from Graph 3 and land trust
talk about new land conservation resource options and quick quick money to
14:47:11 get the landowners Then I have so i'll need the developers meeting, cause I have a campaign lunch with a Kuwait on Wednesday noon.
14:47:25 Then we have the housing fund board meeting wednesday where we'll be looking at among other things trying to finalize the 100 4,949 Rfp's and and start to
14:47:36 post those for opening in September hopefully. and then I have a special meeting of only cap.
14:47:42 Wednesday evening, and then on Thursday we have the regular Jeff calm meeting and then I will be a teaming the the Perk picnic at least.
14:47:55 J. Kale Park. Then, of course, we all have a new newly scheduled meeting on Friday.
14:48:00 That will be at. And then, because we had had here last week, we canceled our our house.
14:48:07 America check in, and that's it and go into the thing all weekends, so forward to that too awesome Yeah, a lighter week.
14:48:17 It's nice what's commissioner gonna do dean gonna say about our birthday week. Hmm let's see i'm trying to squeeze a bunch in before Friday birthday, and thing weekend so let's
14:48:34 see The Edc. like go to the Council Finance meeting tomorrow.
14:48:41 Let's see we have another the what right we we have something.
14:48:52 Yeah, we have a granite graniteus meeting at 11 now, which conflicts at 1130 with our appreciation.
14:49:00 Lunch at the Hot Dog stand downtown, deciding to meet so soon with Grannicus again.
14:49:08 Yeah, I I was surprised to see that. And you know these these folks get aggressive when they think they have a fish on the line.
14:49:21 Recommend that we have lunch to other our employees tomorrow.
14:49:30 Then i'll be meeting with a a sub group of the North Olympic legislative alliance to talk about ideas for housing legislative agenda items and I do want to talk this
14:49:42 afternoon about some other potential legislative issues. But I have been.
14:49:50 I kind of pulled our housing providers to ask them about legislative efforts they were familiar with or aware of, that Noa might want to get involved with, and they gave me
some ideas.
14:49:59 But certainly to others as well. then, I have a call with Derek Kilmer.
14:50:08 I'm not sure if either of you are doing that as Well, okay, .
14:50:17 That's tomorrow 3 33 yeah I just didn't put it in my calendar.
14:50:19 I'm there. Okay, so we will be largely just listening.
14:50:24 So not Wednesday. We have Congressman Kilmer here.
14:50:33 We'll be doing a visit to evans vista in the morning, and then we're headlock sewer in the afternoon to show him 2 projects that his air marks for helping to funds then
14:50:50 I am meeting with your cell phone, the System State Association, a local public health organizations.
14:50:59 Talk about our upcoming a trip to Minnesota or we're going to be presenting the changes in public health at Washington State one board meeting as great mentioned. Thursday.
14:51:12 See our group that's working on child care is going to be meeting to put together some materials to get this across the finish line with the school district.
14:51:23 Hopefully having a brown bag lunch with that Economic Development Council Olympic Council meeting Thursday afternoon, and we have our perk employee picnic at h take care out
which Unfortunately, also
14:51:43 conflicts with the reception welcoming Stg.
14:51:46 And others to the for for things so trying to sweep.
14:51:48 But with those, and and Friday already had a special voc meeting added to my calendar, and then I will be off for the weekends.
14:52:02 Great let's see tomorrow morning I am part of a work group around Central services.
14:52:17 Director recruiting and then lunch with y'all downtown, and then working on some legislative meetings, meeting scheduling with our legislators around trust land transfer, and
then in the afternoon I have
14:52:32 a residential garbage roundup. So there! this all started off with an issue with a spot on Price Street, and have block as part of the Price street.
14:52:47 I feel like it's a trilogy but it's been going on for years, but a lot of the public works, and the sheriff and yeah murdoch they've all been collaborating and doing a great
job on
14:52:59 getting Price street and iron dell hey? click on clear to clean up, and And so there's some residents on that street who need support in terms of garbage tipping fees. and so
we're doing a
14:53:13 roundup with some of the service providers and al karen's tomorrow to talk about setting up kind of a a safety net for folks who live in kind of hotspots that need support for
getting their garbage
14:53:30 remove. So I i'm excited about that collaboration.
14:53:36 Then I am attending that repa recompete.
14:53:38 Call with representative Kilmer as well gonna attend a webinar on wildfire planning mostly about reframing the discussion around home ignition.
14:53:55 You know a lot of people think that it's it's that wild lands are the or why we have wildfires, but often it can be the the houses that ignite in the path of fires so just trying
to understand
14:54:09 more and more about the wild land, urban interface and wildfire planning.
14:54:16 I have a behavioral health care. Advisory Committee.
14:54:22 Subcommittee discussion in the middle of the day, and then a in person.
14:54:27 Meeting with Representative Kilmer and the organic Seed alliance out of Fin River with some farmers.
14:54:34 A listing session with our local farmers.
14:54:39 Thursday. just agenda prep. with mark, and then the Perk employee appreciation.
14:54:48 Picnic and then Friday the special voc meeting with you guys, now that we have it on our calendar, and then I'm gonna go out to the spruce railroad trail and do that section
as part
14:55:00 of ian's ride with marty gay we in our wheelchairs.
14:55:07 On Friday. so and then let's see I don't even remember what's happening in the weekend.
14:55:13 Oh, but next week I will be here very very very little i'm actually gonna try and get some sleep and rest because I haven't been sleeping that great.
14:55:24 So I need some solid sleep. so that's my plan the next couple of weeks.
14:55:30 Mark. What about you What what's on your calendar well, I don't know how this happened, but I have 3 metal appointments this week?
14:55:36 I took them, because you know frequently they're months out and so if they offer you one, you take it
14:55:44 So to today all day with with the with the board this afternoon I'll do a little employee appreciation event planning with Sir Mcintyre for central services.
14:55:56 Tomorrow. we've got profman coming in to look at candidates.
14:56:03 You know I it. it occurs to me? did we didn't Did we invite money to this?
14:56:10 I thought we did. but he's he's out this week. so anyway, we'll get a look at I think we have 9 candidates, so we'll get a look at those tomorrow.
14:56:19 Maybe whittle it down to 3 Then of course we're gonna have hot dogs downtown, and then I run the polls bow for an optometry appointment.
14:56:28 It's been 2 years, so it's time on Wednesday.
14:56:35 The big deal is the behavioral Health Advisory Committee.
14:56:37 Some sort of discussion that Anna mckennery's got scheduled on thursday. I've got an appointment at the hospital dermatology to check for whatever they're called
14:56:50 and then i'll check in on the Jeff come admin board meeting that i'll miss the beginning of, and then casual brown checking with Heidi on agenda Friday special board meeting
14:57:04 on the casual brown lease and then a couple of internal staff meetings, and and I've got to get the Rfp.
14:57:14 Posted on the website and identify all the stakeholders that we would like to get notified in that Rp.
14:57:21 Directly, and i'll be Coordinating the request for qualifications with Chief Mccern.
14:57:27 Who, I guess, is a quilting fire chief and he's the chief of chiefs.
14:57:34 So. hopefully, we can agree on that document, and I can get it to the Mr.
14:57:39 Roster for alright consultants to submit their qualifications.
14:57:45 So that's my way busy weeks for all anything else anything pop up any popcorn out of that sharing time. time.
14:58:03 Morgan Hill emergency management. the tanner they want They're looking for support from the county, and I promised them that about that right.
14:58:16 Yeah $50,000 ask is pretty big and I I you know I was gonna suggest I I I hate to keep leaning on the Arpa revenue sharing, since we don't have it.
14:58:28 We don't know what we're getting at but I would recommend using those dollars.
14:58:35 Should we receive them yeah no I i'm i'm fine with that just I don't know if you got a few minutes to sit down with with myself.
14:58:43 So let's just yeah, I agree on on that when we adjourn today.
14:58:48 I got, you know. Come on over after we adjourn, or whatever you have a few minutes.
14:58:53 Sounds good. Anything else are the good of the order? Yeah. Can we talk some lips of stuff for minutes?
14:59:05 So I guess. First, question may be great.
14:59:09 This is for you. any any burning howing legislative issues that she like to see Mela?
14:59:18 Consider taking on. I mean I you know i'm not sure if just saying Gma is is enough.
14:59:27 But you know, I think more and more folks are recognizing that sometimes it does.
14:59:33 It's a constriction on our land development. so no, I mean nothing specific that I know of.
14:59:39 I mean some of the things that happen last time about Lambert Flexibility.
14:59:44 I mean these I I would, I guess wanna push those things that didn't quite pass last time it looks looked like they were on the right track.
14:59:53 So yeah, landmark flexibility state department of health oss rules, you know, looking for low water septic alternatives, and and you know it's really the state department of
health.
15:00:10 It's going to lay down rules for It would make much basins or or other gray water alternatives practical, which makes the composting toilets.
15:00:19 We already have practical right. so I guess I can.
15:00:25 I can dig in a little bit more, too. but those those are off the cup great.
15:00:31 Thank you. I will share with you the topics that we are looking at the association of counties.
15:00:43 This has gone through a a small group, process but it's not been voted on by
15:00:49 The whole Lsc. membership. Yet So we have these 4 work groups, this one governance, environment, land, use, infrastructure and transportation and social justice and equity.
15:01:04 And so each had. I don't know maybe to approximately 10 issues that they were looking at.
15:01:12 Since these small groups ranked, we it you know screen being highest importance yellow, medium, and red.
15:01:17 You'll see less important. and lc generally takes on 3 to 5 issues total.
15:01:26 So it's you know it's gonna be hard to to really narrow.
15:01:29 This down even further. Number One can you tell us Why, I can't, or remind me why what happened last time?
15:01:35 I felt like we were on the way, and then it just dissolved at the end. Right?
15:01:39 Yeah, yeah, and it has the last 2 sessions the chair of the ways and means committee senate side doesn't like it. doesn't like the are what we call fifth
15:01:55 And so I think there's there's a couple of concerns one is that it's not seen as really pressing, because most counties have until like 2032 until it expired.
15:02:07 So there's not an urgency and that legislature is a little bit reluctant to to continue it part kind of strapping future legislation.
15:02:25 You know that it it it ties them into to funding something long term.
15:02:30 So if you have to hit a couple of important folks that aren't crazy about it.
15:02:36 But the Washington Academic Development Association is decided to take this on again.
15:02:41 So it's going to be some more behind it you know this really started with our county pushing it.
15:02:47 Then we've gotten wassack on board we've gotten the ports involved.
15:02:53 So there's a much bigger coalition set up with this that will be enough to get it across the finish right.
15:03:04 So you know, some of these are a little bit proactive.
15:03:09 We know that very good bills that have almost passed regarding adding a climate change element and a Simon recovery element to growth management.
15:03:21 And so I think that the bought here by including those is that if you know developing a proposal that then will not just be responding to
15:03:33 The proposals that come forward from the environmental focus.
15:03:40 So what those proposals say it's I don't know, and i'm not sure we would totally be in alignment.
15:03:47 So it's a little tricky the number 2 there is relative to the encumbered lands work group that Paul is leading up right now.
15:04:00 The marvel may let long term no number 2.
15:04:05 Rob will mail that long term conservation strategy.
15:04:08 Cause that's what that proviser was getting at the the funding replacement there, and I I don't know if trustland transfers farther down your list.
15:04:18 But there will be statutory changes that will be required coming out of that work group that took place for the last year and a half.
15:04:26 Somebody will be moving those along and I don't I you know There are other counties invested in that program right now.
15:04:33 Wat come kids up. I don't know if any of those counties are represented on the Lsc.
15:04:37 Or not, but every every county is Yeah.
15:04:46 Take a look and see if they came up I mean of course I'm Admiral.
15:04:50 We we're all left Jefferson county through what happens stands really our County Trust lands. Really, we're not impacted very much by it.
15:04:58 So it's I mean not a priority for us but I understand why it's there.
15:05:01 Well, and in that encumbered lands, work, group it's really the mix of counties is really it's divided between impacts from yourlet and spotted out, And so that's so far in
our 2 meetings of the
15:05:14 encumbrance work group that's been the focus Well, not the focus.
15:05:18 But that's been part of our discussion the the differing impacts of the 2 species and the restrictions.
15:05:27 It will say the number 5 requesting funding, probably process to identify such a benefits of the State and Federal Fund.
15:05:34 Exchange. that is likely to be more important with the Federal structure.
15:05:41 Dollars. you know those are very expensive and difficult to use.
15:05:46 So this would provide a way to make them State dollars instead of Federal.
15:05:50 Also one of the top priorities for the pr Tpo.
15:05:56 So that's one we get behind for sure
15:06:04 Funding for the fish barrier removal program you know that's another one that's that is in the i'm low supported rank.
15:06:13 So hike it's in the bipartisan infrastructure law also.
15:06:18 So we know there's going to be additional funding for that juveniles people under 18. no.
15:06:30 So there's been some legislative efforts to define certain types of I don't know if it's just offenders.
15:06:41 But to expand that to to 21 and there's some concern that that brings a different populations into juvenile facilities, that it has some risk associated with it it's a
15:06:55 it's a authority issue. I actually haven't followed it very closely, but I should check it with Bar.
15:07:01 But see where they're at with that it doesn't affect us as much sweet, you know, other than Pector House don't have that juvenile detention. we don't have a gibbon on detention
15:07:11 facility. Oh, lammer's number 15 that's good
15:07:28 Some of these are really like 11, and 12 you know there's a couple of counties that are really pushing for wanting to be able to meet elsewhere, or how to appoint officials.
15:07:40 So i'm i'm not sure how how highly those will rank in the group.
15:07:44 But yeah, trying to get done the 3 to 5, right number 17 and 18. Well, 18 in particular.
15:07:57 This. This is an ongoing effort to view. The more you take particular levies out of the 1% cap allows you to.
15:08:07 Then generate more revenue so that's been an ongoing effort both strap support and strong opposition to that, and then at least red low importance unlikely to get across the
finish line i'd say
15:08:26 but see! some of the others that are have been talked about.
15:08:36 Is there a actual build to update the public records act to address the predatory requesters an interesting one?
15:08:44 I just I can't imagine that's hard enough to crack. Yeah, I don't think so i'm not familiar with with one but it's something that counties are pretty hot under the caller, about
of course
15:08:57 but these were So we did have criteria by which these were all ranked, and political feasibility is one of those that might be why it did not make it very far. okay.
15:09:11 Can you share this list? Yes, it is still in draft form.
15:09:19 It's a summary for our upcoming retreat that is still drafted.
15:09:24 So most Lsc. members have got not gotten it yet, and We might still revise it. So it's just you to not share it, because not really ready for prim time, but happy to send it
out
15:09:41 Okay, Thanks for your work on all this stuff. probably 30 upstairs, 39 counties are pretty solidly.
15:09:59 Very conservative, and looking for different types of legislation than we are.
15:10:06 But there is there is coming round but it's interesting because then, you think, do you end up just watering down your own agenda to to find that comic round I'm.
15:10:18 Sure the Lammers is one of some of that common ground, though it is.
15:10:23 Yeah. yeah. But then the the political feasibility of that is pretty low.
15:10:28 It's a very progressive legislature right now, I mean I think if we're a champion locally, you know it's I don't think it's an automatic.
15:10:36 I don't know I I feel like the the way that that is the narrative behind this could inform how receptive the legislature is to Yeah, Yeah, it's.
15:10:48 But it's such a hot button issue for future wise Yeah, right?
15:10:55 And they Yeah, yeah, it was interesting at the under the Ted housing discussion last week.
15:11:04 Certainly, you know, having a lot of folks interested in that.
15:11:07 And you know you think about Chimica i'm a great example of Alamert that you know could could really benefit from farm worker housing.
15:11:16 Say That's what I that's the example I've been using when I've been going and testifying on these Lambert bills and Olympia is jimmick I'm in the the you know the
15:11:24 businesses there that have each created like 50 jobs the last 10 years.
15:11:30 The the tricky part is that you know it's right next to a uga.
15:11:36 That is where the density should go so it's it's a heart, you know. it's a I mean not yet right.
15:11:42 Maybe maybe the development patterns. will will shift a little bit and is to be curious to see Yup, you're talking about Port Hadlock, Eg: right?
15:11:53 Yeah. Yeah. So Yeah. Nothing. nothing simple. : signed up for this job, I guess.
15:12:02 Hello, Another example is just in in looking at this long list of potential legislative agenda topics, I suggested to the Wasx staff and my co-chair just innocently, like huh
maybe we should
15:12:20 consider using a account or a a rent choice voting because you can get really better outcomes.
15:12:31 You know it's it's a more refined way of ranking people's priorities in a large group, and I don't know if you know, but right choice voting is hated by Republicans it is like
considered a
15:12:45 Communist conspiracy and and so just the the very idea of like considering the ranking our agenda items was like, You know, how easy talk.
15:13:02 That's how divided everything is right now, even though you know this very legitimate way of voting created by mathematicians like this.
15:13:10 This is not a political thing at all that's become so politicized.
15:13:15 So. Yeah, yeah, it's rough don't mention rank choice voting among Conservatives. it'd be very unpopular unless that's your goal
15:13:34 Interesting to hear what comes out of your retreat.
15:13:36 Yeah, and it's it's middle of september Should we do a little calendaring? I have a number of things coming up that maybe let you guys know i'm gonna be at the office for some
work travel
15:13:50 next week, and with Public Public Health Board of Help training in the Spokane.
15:13:58 When stay at Thursday. So we got really all of those days, thirty-first in the first Hmm I am Mark.
15:14:15 I am calling in for, like the budget meeting and the a couple of other meetings on Wednesday and Thursday next week.
15:14:27 Just
15:14:29 Yeah, But then, i'm gone and mid september for let's let's say steering committee retreat and leadership.
15:14:37 Council. that's kind of fourteenth through the sixteenth, basically no thirteenth to sixteenth that week.
15:14:49 I see an Icg meeting on the fifteenth, and that we make quarterly.
15:14:53 No, you know we added a special meeting under the tent was a special meeting.
15:14:58 So that's our regular meeting, and it did come up last week. that we were gonna keep that which is gonna be really tricky for me.
15:15:05 But yeah.
15:15:20 Yeah, I don't have too many I mean on the first i'll be in blend all day with the broadband symposium.
15:15:29 But mostly around is a timber count. is caucus meeting on the fifteenth as well board of hell, so I probably won't travel to.
15:15:39 It is that in ellenberg also Washington county's building, I guess Olympia Oh, it's sorry I've been twenty-second to an ellen spread with Wessex I wonder if they're
15:15:51 combining them.
15:15:57 Okay, Well, i'm just apologizing in advance i'm gonna be gone a lot in september for work travel.
15:16:01 But wouldn't be far in state great I have some of really funny days, where I have like
15:16:16 I don't know I didn't hear it again. then you're the one that's doing it when I hear that sound. I grab my mouse and click and it stops so I I don't know I might be the source
but I
15:16:30 don't know the cause has sounds like a hearing a feedback.
15:16:35 Then you got bluetooth on it not I don't think I have it energized on my my laptop weird.
15:16:50 I was just saying, I have these days, where I have cascading conflicts like they're stacked, and there's like 5 meetings that overlap.
15:16:57 Okay, i've had a couple of those happen already and it's.
15:17:02 I've figured out how to navigate them but it's challenging.
15:17:06 Well, you know, let us know i'm happy to step in as appropriate.
15:17:09 Yeah, I don't see one until Well, when you mentioned the timber counties caucus.
15:17:16 I kind of wanted to go to that one. but there is the community bandwidth, and the Board of Health and Icg all overlap with that session.
15:17:29 So yeah, which is in person, I think. Anyway, wanted to mention a couple of budget items.
15:17:42 Mark that have come up with. We are likely should be asked to increase our membership dues for the North Olympic Development Council.
15:17:55 A lot for the North Olympic Development Council, So those fees have been something like $3,000, or you know not not very much.
15:18:10 And there's the the board is considering a new policy whereby the members cover the entire match for the economic Development administration grant.
15:18:20 So every year they get $70,000, and coming up with the match, for that is a pain.
15:18:27 And so that the counties the the proposal that the board has come up with is that the counties shoulder a lot of that.
15:18:37 And so we're gonna ask for 25,000 for Jefferson at 25,000.
15:18:43 And then the remainder of the organizations would come up with the rest.
15:18:47 So just that will be coming with some rationale.
15:18:51 You know it is, I do think that the service they're providing is pretty extraordinary.
15:18:59 You know it is like having a added capacity of under the staff person.
15:19:03 So it's reasonable to to consider that Another ask that might be coming to us is a match for that procurement technical assistance provider that I mentioned if if the Edc.
15:19:24 Is successful in getting that grant. They're hoping to get 30 or $40,000 one time from the county, and that would give us a 5 year position part time in Jefferson County, working
with businesses to get government contracts 30
15:19:40 1,000, do you say? Yeah. So we, and we might not know on that one for a while.
15:19:51 We might wanna wait until we get see if they get the grant or not.
15:19:57 But there it could be before the end of the year. But just just well, Fyi, both of those are coming.
15:20:01 Want to give you guys time to think about it. Those are things you would want to support or not.
15:20:07 Okay, thank you for that. I mean sort of thank you. Hmm.
15:20:24 Anything else. Calendar heads up be well if there's nothing else.
15:20:35 We can adjourn for today unless anyone has any last minute items.