HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:03:14 Yeah, no, nothing. I heard that. Okay.
09:03:23 So good morning! Everybody! Hope everyone had a great, long weekend, happy September sixth.
09:03:31 I'll call this meeting of the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners to order.
09:03:39 Does everyone have a good, weekend, Superb? Excellent?
09:03:44 Okay, lovely. I hope I can. We do a little Mike check that?
09:03:48 To make sure that the public can hear us This is our mic check. Okay, checking in about the weekend.
09:03:52 Yeah, I'd say little The Saturday was a little anxious with the big protest downtown, which turned out to not be a big protest, luckily, but just want to say great job to law
enforcement, which was largely the city, and command but i'm
09:04:09 grateful for our deputies helping out with that and State patrol The city just did a great job of both creating a space that was safe for everyone and also really encouraging
folks to stay home.
09:04:21 And I hope it wasn't too hard on local businesses.
09:04:23 And then just do one acknowledge to the the plane crash which took place just off of our own waters as well here, and really really tragic.
09:04:31 So mix mixed bag, beautiful weekend, and some hard stuff, but happy first day of school to many of the kids in East Jefferson County South County started last week, but I know
2 of us here, happy to have kids back in school Yeah, and I was excited to hear that enrollment is actually
09:04:50 up at Jimmy. Come at least great 50 or 60 kids up.
09:04:55 Great news So they're actually having to hire more people.
09:04:59 Yeah, which is great news. Yeah, none of our teachers are on strike. Right?
09:05:03 Yeah, awesome, but also good news. Yeah, I drove up the hill from my mom's house this morning and saw the kids waiting for the bus where I used to wait for the bus.
09:05:12 And definitely got a little wave of nostalgia.
09:05:15 So yeah, nice to see kids going back to school
09:05:23 Great. Okay, great. Sounds like, sound, check. Worked. Okay, So any other comments for the good of the order, or if not, I will just do one more.
09:05:35 Maybe yeah, just because it's been a couple of weeks and it feels like a couple of weeks.
09:05:38 But just also wanna, say, great job to Fort Worth successfully pulling off the thing music, festival, and that was a big deal for our little community, and went off without
a hitch.
09:05:50 Everybody said law enforcement said the emergency room. Everybody said they were prepared, you know, just many of that many people, and that everything went so smoothly and
safely, and 200 hope that that can be a regular thing here, in our community, a regular thing thing.
09:06:09 okay, Okay, well, as we do every Monday morning, except for the Monday mornings, where it's Tuesday we will start our morning with public comments.
09:06:19 if you've joined us on zoom this morning, we are meeting, We are in person here in the chambers.
09:06:25 If anyone wants to run in and hang out with us, but we are also doing a hybrid meeting?
09:06:30 So still taking public comment on zoom. If people are joining us that way, if anyone has a comment they'd like to make this morning, they can either raise their hand in the
room or raise their hand using the right hand button at the bottom of their zoom screen and we'll bring you over
09:06:46 for public comment. Is there anyone with us wishing to make a public comment this morning?
09:07:18 Dr. Patricia Jones, speaking on behalf of the Olympic Forest Coalition. Thank you.
09:07:23 Committee for the opportunity to comment on an item on the agenda concerning the exension of the contract and additional funding for the analysis of the Jefferson County Forests,
including the State Board lands off coast supports.
09:07:39 This effort wholeheartedly by Jefferson County to analyze these lands and the options for management of our forests.
09:07:46 Chickadee forestry, initiated, an innovative management of current county forests.
09:07:52 Some years ago, and has put together a really great expert team of advisors with the capacity to provide accurate fact and science-based information, needed to manage our forests.
09:08:06 The order defining the scope of work is general in the materials, agenda materials.
09:08:11 I hope that it may include the potential for looking also at carbon sequestration and storage climate, disruption impacts to the extent possible given current science we're
feasible off coast supports including drawing in the importance of other economic sectors.
09:08:29 Such as recreation and fisheries also dependent on our forested land, so the county can have the fullest picture possible of the economic importance of our lands, and a separate
matter We support the update of the Jefferson, county force of the future report with input from subject matter experts on
09:08:50 impacts to fisheries and watersheds, including, of course, Peter bails, have worked so hard, so Thank you so much.
09:09:00 Thank you, Patricia. Is there anybody else who's joined us who would like to make a public comment this morning?
09:09:15 Oh, good morning, long time, No. See yeah, I I wanted to comment on Item 11 on your consent agenda this morning, which proposes to give $30,000 to the city of port townsend
to study their septage.
09:09:32 If you and needs. I really don't understand why the county is funding the cities, sewage issues.
09:09:45 the county has spent millions of dollars so far, and is going to spend millions more building the Tri area sewer, which is supposed to take care of these sorts of things.
09:09:55 I can't believe that there isn't going to be sufficient capacity in that system to deal with the septage that might originate in the county, so I don't understand why county
money is going to the city.
09:10:09 This is it It makes very little sense to me, I mean, if the city needs to fund its own study great, let them do it.
09:10:14 They can raise their sewer fees, or whatever they need to do.
09:10:16 But I just don't see the benefit to county residents and county taxpayers, So I you suggest that you pull this thing off, and at least get a detailed explanation as to the estimated
fiscal benefit to the county.
09:10:30 From from providing this kind of money to the city for its needs.
09:09:09 Good morning, Mr. Tears. You'll have 3Â min for public comment.
09:10:37 Thank you Mr. Tears. I'll be able to respond to that.
09:10:40 Is there anyone else who's joined us this morning?
09:10:43 Who would like to make a public comment on the audience. I see George's racist hand in the room.
09:11:04 thank you for the opportunity, community do come. Live to the Commission I've missed these meetings.
09:11:12 I feel alone. Come on, Tom. Show up next week, and I want to echo what Patricia Jones has mentioned, and the and the one thing that I'd like to do is a real shout out to the
Jefferson county Fair folks put on a tremendous fair and an awful lot
09:11:32 of people turned out particularly Sunday, and we we missed that kind of stuff.
09:11:39 So let's let's get back to that somehow, and thank you for going.
09:11:45 Live gang. Thanks for coming in, George. We appreciate you being here
09:11:53 Anybody else who is on zoom with us this morning who wants to make a public comment?
09:11:59 You can do so by using the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen.
09:12:03 So anybody else wishing to make a comment this morning.
09:12:09 Wonder if we should break the bad news that there's no covid update today.
09:12:13 Yeah, unfortunately, yeah, we are not gonna have our weekly covid update.
09:12:20 because it's a Tuesday, and Dr. Barry is in her other county, attend attending to our job there.
09:12:26 So next week we'll be back with Dr. Barry on Monday morning.
09:12:32 Yeah, Willie Vince, I think is on a well-deserved vacation.
09:12:35 Covid or emergency management update Today, Okay, Does anyone want to respond to the comments made you sound like You had something you want to start Well, I can start with
the septage capacity study.
09:12:51 I've taken a deep dive into the Doo over the last year and have learned definitely first hand from our colleagues at Goodman sanitation about the limits to our ability to dispose
of Waste from County septic systems out in the county and couple of things the Port
09:13:14 Hadlock. We wastewater treatment system will not be able to take.
09:13:20 Additional that's oils and greases or septage from septic tanks, as currently designed so that that's not an option.
09:13:28 As I've been informed by our our headlock separate sewer system team, and then we are at.
09:13:38 We are reaching quickly, reaching capacity with our current ability to dispose, septage that comes out of the septic systems in the county, and we talked with our colleagues
at the city who are in the process of upgrading their sewer system.
09:13:52 And asked if they might be able to increase their capacity to accommodate some of the septage that comes from county septic systems.
09:14:00 So that's what the septage capacity study is about, and we're grateful that the city is willing to partner with us in this way and see this as actually a cost efficient way
to address a an emerging problem.
09:14:16 And if you don't believe me, talk to Amanda Grace at Goodman's annotation.
09:14:21 She knows firsthand. Yeah, And you might comment that this is a region wide issue.
09:14:26 Yeah, right. So part of my reach on this I've learned that there are about 5 or 6 other counties who are reaching the limits of their ability to dispose of their septage waste.
09:14:37 And we're looking to do a regional capacitance, disposal capacity study through the legislature in the next session.
09:14:46 But this is a short term. Study with our partners at the city of Port Townsend.
09:14:50 So if anyone wants to know more, they're willing. They're more than welcome to call me, and I can fill you in on the details.
09:14:58 Can I add one more bit to that? I'm not sure if I'm I'm absolutely accurate.
09:15:02 But I thought that as our biomimbrane sewer in the Tri area gets built, in fact, we're going to have to move the biosolage from that as well compounding the problem, because
We have an Ila with the city which We prioritizes the biostage from
09:15:17 the Tri area sewer before that, you know, household septage.
09:15:24 Yeah, it will. It will continue to get worse. And it is an issue that we you know, that is rife with opportunities for puns that I'm not going to descend.
09:15:33 flipped a few in, but I couldn't help it.
09:15:38 and then on Dr. Jones's comments about our expanded contract with ticket E.
09:15:42 Forestry. I'm grateful that Mallory is willing to invest more of our time with us and work on really understanding the details of the forestry issues on both county owned forest
lands, and lands that the State manages on behalf of the county so that We have a
09:16:01 clear picture of what's going on now, and what we could potentially do in the future in terms of managing for us under our care?
09:16:12 So any other comments. Oh, sure! In response to the comments, I also, at a great time at the fair as well as the thing.
09:16:26 And all the great summer festivals. It's really it's great to be out in the world with people again, and and really appreciate everyone's enthusiasm about that the the sewer
is a complicated.
09:16:36 Issue, you know, and the the contract that Patricia is in favor of you know I'm generally in favor of 2, but it I'm I'm not sure if we have our criteria really listed out.
09:16:50 I guess it feels a little bit ahead of the game to me, just because I I guess I just I don't know.
09:16:59 Did. It seems like not a consent agenda item to me, but an agenda item, because I don't know.
09:17:05 We've talked to a couple of different consultants.
09:17:07 I think it's great to have hey? Mallory's done a lot of good work, but I'm not sure if we had made a decision I don't know.
09:17:14 Maybe we did. Maybe I just didn't recall it, but to Patricia's point I think talking about the some of these criteria.
09:17:24 Like car carbon. Sequestration, storage and climate impacts and economic sectors, including how many working for, should we have?
09:17:33 What's a sustainable amount of wood or Jefferson County?
09:17:35 I think that's you know, kind of reverse engineering.
09:17:38 And I'm not sure if that's in chickity forestries, subject matter expertise, and I'm not sure how the stable very qualified advisors that she has are they are They doing billable.
Hours.
09:17:53 I guess I still have some questions about this. So yeah, I just like to talk about that one a little bit more, maybe still in consent agenda, and then I don't know.
09:18:05 Do you want to respond to public comment? I actually don't have a lot to respond to, but I think I shared your concern and talked about that in our workshop a few weeks ago,
just that I felt like we were a little bit ahead of the conversation was a little ahead, of where I
09:18:25 was so, I think, given that we both feel that way, that maybe we should pull it and have a longer conversation.
09:18:33 Yup Okay, Is that all right? Yeah, And then I wanted to give props to my pops, who signed up for the housing authority.
09:18:41 Number 14 to see him up there, and you know I think it means that I've got 1 point in the sweepstakes to fill all of our advisory rules we can use, family members for this right,
and lots, of great work, and I mental mental health in the schools I just wanted to make
09:19:01 sure that I understood correctly that we're using empowered teams, funds to to pay for the mental health counseling in the Chimicum school district.
09:19:09 Is that okay? After understanding Number 6, Because I I love the creative distribution of funds, for we, we all, I think, really recognize is critical need.
09:19:22 And and just number 7, number number 7, and then and number 6, right?
09:19:26 Yeah, 6. You know what. However, we can cobble cobble.
09:19:33 This together is absolutely and you know, good to see central services working through facilities, issues really appreciate Matt and everyone's work.
09:19:43 There, and yeah, just lots of good stuff. It's a really meaty one.
09:19:49 Feel like there was one more, and with the one other one that I'm comfortable with.
09:19:54 But I know that Kate has wanted a little bit more detail before is number 12, with only cap I don't know if you wanted to call that out.
09:20:00 I mean, you jumped right into consent agenda.
09:20:09 well, I mean I'll It's only 9, 20, so alright, we can leave public comment open until 9, 30.
09:20:16 If anyone else has a public comment that emerges in the next 10Â min.
09:20:21 But we can move on to consent. Agenda since we did, anyway.
09:20:25 and continue conversation about consent agenda.
09:20:30 So I'll leave public comment open for another 10Â min, and we will start discussing or continue discussing consent agenda.
09:20:38 Keep talking, Yeah, I mean on Number 11. I'm happy.
09:20:39 Leaving it in consent agenda. I understand Mr.
09:20:43 Tears, is concern, but I think it is really critical to get some some strategy going with that and the city is the obvious partners, since they have the septage capacity, and
we'll continue to have the only septage capacity in town, so and accounting and i'm not sure if
09:21:01 this has been emphasize. Sorry if I missed it from one of you, but that you know if we don't have that capacity locally, that'sptage has to be shipped a very far away, which
changes the the whole operations like the cost of operations so actually getting that figured out
09:21:17 sooner than later, is important in trying to detail that on M.
09:21:23 Car carbon emissions by the vehicles, hauling the septage, as well.
09:21:27 Yeah, Yeah, and food service, that environmental public health regulates is a lot of those fat oils and graces that are the really problematic sector of the septage to to deal
with So it is work that needs to happen I think commissioner brotherson you're right I Am: a
09:21:45 bit of a broken record, and always wanting more detail on the Cdbg.
09:21:50 you know That is a large grant? This is number 12.
09:21:54 we just love to see some more detail of how that how those funds are gonna be spent.
09:21:58 The Commissioner Dean on page 20. There are a couple of blocks checked that indicate what services are going to be provided, and there's a number of them and I don't know specifically
which of those only Cap is going to focus on but examples are supportive services, including but
09:22:19 not limited to health care, housing services, daycare, nutritional services, short term payments for rent, mortgage or utilities.
09:22:28 Assistance and gaining access to government benefits and that's just one of the 2 categories.
09:22:34 There are 11 other for 10 other categories listed in another portion of the grant, but which of those we would have to talk to cherish about that.
09:22:48 Yeah, I'm just sensitive because other providers have said, you know, Why?
09:22:52 Why does all We can always get these funds which could be routed through another organization.
09:22:57 So I think it's important to specify, and I understand that they're flexible funds, too, which is great.
09:23:01 And I fully support them using it. But I think, just for the sake of transparency, it's important to outline in pay and page 16.
09:23:11 It talks about serving a 1,000 beneficiaries, which sounds like a lot for $110,000.
09:23:18 And then it talks about using it for senior nutrition program, but I couldn't really read or understand, that what that was saying on page 17.
09:23:30 so? Does anyone have any additional information just to? Oh, I mean, and the public understand the the I I think, just in general, I'm supportive and I you know And Privy to
the the budget, talks, and only cap to where they are often are you know, sort of different, programs that maybe you have
09:23:47 more. You know, seniors, asking for nutrition services.
09:23:50 So. It is very different. The way that it goes. But I just in in understanding folks casting an eye on this and saying, How is it being used?
09:24:00 I do think that the best practice might be to have all the cap just come and do a little presentation about this as a kind of a best practice that we observe although they do
have to do a hearing for it.
09:24:12 Oh, yeah, but yeah, I I I would just love for you know, whether it's in the agenda request or somewhere.
09:24:22 You know, that's always the the So what is being done, and why and and little more specificity.
09:24:28 Yeah, And even if it's these are important, flexible funds that allow us to fill gaps as needed.
09:24:34 That's really helpful for the the public to understand, but because there has been scrutiny of this Grant program specifically, I I I feel responsible to say, Hey, can we try
to be more specific And i've been saying this for 6 years.
09:24:47 So. And you know, for example, the the last couple of meetings I've been putting in a gender requests for supportlet.
09:24:57 There's an authorization, And I try to be very specific about though.
09:24:59 How is it going to be spent, and why And I feel like this shouldn't be any different.
09:25:05 So what would you like to do? I I'm I'm fine, but just maybe moving forward if every time these come up, if we could just be try to be aware of getting that specificity I I
don't distrust how these funds are being used I just want to have more
09:25:19 transparency in the future. Yeah, I think that's easy.
09:25:24 We can talk about it when the hearing comes up, I guess. And just ask for more explicit. Even if you know they're going to be using these in these different in these programs
depending on need. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't take much nope
09:25:42 Anything else. I'm consent thrilled to see the design work for the pedestrian and bike improvements in Chicago.
09:25:52 It's I think it was. I have a great photo that I use often of Eric Kuzma at a community meeting talking about the these very trails from 8 years ago, and this is how long it
takes to get these going But so that's been in the works for a long time and
09:26:10 thrilled to see that design. Work getting done, and then, of course, you have to get funding for construction.
09:26:16 But and of course, jump playground. I was out there yesterday.
09:26:22 Oh, there's a work party coming up Yeah, morning and afternoon.
09:26:29 So folks are interested in helping volunteering at the jump playground.
09:26:31 It's just looking great, and looks like a a soon to be playground, which is so. Rebecca, putting some of the tiles in fantastic and some good letters of support or you know,
the no Grant, and for holy Caps efforts to to access the commerce
09:26:53 multi-family housing unit. Grant. Yep!
09:26:56 I was excited about the first 3, that all of the stewardship of kings facilities, the community centers.
09:27:03 I remember making a in the budget budget writing process and impassioned plea for funding, taking care of.
09:27:10 Well, taking care of what we've got, and I'm glad to see that rubber meeting.
09:27:14 The road here, and then also at another personal passion of mine, is, they're like crab pot removal to see?
09:27:21 That. We're continuing to support the Marine Resources Committee and doing that work cause as a regular recreational craver.
09:27:29 I'm kind of very aware, of the embryo crab pots it sound we should call them zombie. Yeah, it took a ferry out of service, didn't it?
09:27:40 Oh, did it? Yeah, Hmm. I was thrilled to see, too, in the the school.
09:27:52 Mental health clinics, for she might come in closely. And those are some relative new providers to me, anyway, And I know that it was tough last year to find Yeah, So great.
To see these on consent agenda on the first day of school Yeah.
09:28:10 Well, anything else. On consent We we're pulling one item.
09:28:16 But or just for their discussion, anything else. I'm happy to move, to approve the consent agenda.
09:28:25 With the removal of number 13, Prefer the discussion. I'll second It's 13 of their ticketing, all in favor.
09:28:39 Hi passes unanimously. Okay, So it's 9, 28.
09:28:46 Is there anybody who is with us on zoom today or in the room who would like to make a public comment?
09:28:53 Who hasn't already. You can reuse your raise hand button at the bottom of the zoom screen
09:29:02 Anybody any last
09:29:06 Not seeing any hands go up, It's so hard to know where to look You guys look at the audience switch screen, not seeing any hands go up.
09:29:16 So I'm going to close public comment. Okay, So we have address, consent, agenda.
09:29:24 So do we want to do that discussion about the Chickadee forestry agenda item this afternoon, I mean, I think I have a enough to explain.
09:29:33 I think what's going on with that award I mean, we have the time right now, right when's our first time?
09:29:42 Proclamation, and then it's like that post session.
09:29:45 I'm have. I can't
09:30:28 Morning Tim Keep M. Current
09:30:31 Good morning, Commission. How are you today
09:30:35 the beautiful day like to be back in person. It was nice
09:30:45 Okay, Well.
09:30:51 I have it while we sign. We sign these documents that, needing urgent signatures.
09:31:27 I can care of a little bit administrative details here
09:31:34 That's just
09:31:44 Yeah, Good morning. Okay?
09:31:54 Morning, sheriff.
09:32:01 Good morning. Hmm: Okay. Got those signed? Good morning, Chief Mccern and Sheriff Noel.
09:32:14 Thank you for joining us for this proclamation.
09:32:17 We are recognizing a national day of service and remembrance, and we have a proclamation to read.
09:32:26 Would anyone like to start proclamation? Oh, I'll take the big one
09:32:33 proclamation about national day of service and remembrance; whereas poor 21 years ago, the United States endured one of the most unconscionable tragedies in our country's history.
09:32:42 The cowardly terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, the pentagon and onboard united flight.
09:32:48 93 cut short the lives of 2,977 innocent people.
09:32:52 These attacks to tore a hole in the heart of our nation, and the pain of this tragedy still remains.
09:32:58 Each year on this somber date we remember the horror and bravery shown that day, just as we remember how we came together, united in grief and purpose.
09:33:06 Each year we renew our solemn vow to never forget what happened on September the eleventh, 2,000, and one, the for those who lost their lives; and whereas on national day of
service and remembrance, we honor every life, that was taken too, soon we honor, the first responders
09:33:22 firefighters law Enforcement officials, emergency workers and service members who answered the call of duty. And the brave civilians who rushed into action to save Lives that
day their courage embodies the American spirit and resilience and their heroism continues to inspire new generations
09:33:38 of Americans; and whereas we also remember the patriotism and valor of our service, members who pursued our attackers, delivered justice to Osama bin laden and degraded Degraded
Al Qaeda, and Whereas, over the last 2 decades, the American people; have
09:33:54 demonstrated that the harder the circumstances, the more resilient and stronger we become Our shared love of country and our shared values, regardless of race, gender, religion,
origin, or economic status unite us as Americans against all enemies, foreign and domestic and whereas Congress has requested the observance
09:34:13 of September eleventh, as an annually recognized national day of service.
09:34:17 And remembrance. Now, therefore, the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners does hereby proclaim September the eleventh, 2,022 as National day, of service.
09:34:27 And remembrance in Jefferson County, and encourages all residents to join us in observation of this important day, proclaimed the sixth day of September, 2022 by us You're Jefferson
county board of commissioners.
09:34:43 Thank you. Everyone, Sheriff Noel or Chief Mccern.
09:34:49 I guess I I thanks, thanks. I I I just wanna say you know, and this some of this has been mentioned.
09:34:55 But you know, on September eleventh, 2,001, nearly 3,000 people died in the attacks on our country, and the proclamation that we're talking about today, reminds us of that terrible
time reminds us of those that died including the first responders who risk their life to save
09:35:10 others. I thank them for for their service, which included the ultimate sacrifice.
09:35:14 I just want to know what I want to say. I It may have occurred in New York, but I want to say that we have at least that same level level of dedication.
09:35:22 Here in Jefferson County. We're all first responders and stand by ready to risk our life and service to the community.
09:35:29 I'm sure that I speak for all of us, when I thank you for the recognition, It means more than you know.
09:34:47 Do you have anything you want to add
09:35:36 And it's poignant to me that you're making.
09:35:39 We're making this proclamation this morning, after a weekend where we were anticipating potential violence or harm in our community.
09:35:49 And I really appreciate you, Sheriff now working with the city of Port Townsend Police Department and all the other first responders in our region to get prepared and to be
so well prepared for what turned out to not Be such a worrisome event but we were all worried about it nonetheless, last the last couple of
09:36:07 weeks. So I appreciate appreciate your leadership and foresight.
09:36:12 then, if I could just add, Thank you very much for that, and I I I was really glad to be.
09:36:18 Things turned out, and and that's on the community. To it was a group effort.
09:36:31 I do, I do? I echo Yeah, I echo exactly what the sheriff said.
09:36:36 You know we lost 385 folks to New York but it's not just that, I think what this is has done for us is really it's nice to hear you folks talk about you know We're dealing with
more psychological than we ever did before.
09:36:50 And it's dealing with that type of issue that we wanna make sure we can get that down as well.
09:36:30 Yeah, Chief. Mccarran, you have any any words for the
09:36:54 We don't want to see the suicides and first responders, and those kinds of things that we need to fix that and we need to hit those head on. Certainly We appreciate this.
09:37:04 And I speak for the fire service. Again I echo the that it's just not just New York.
09:37:03 Thank you. Okay.
09:37:09 It's all across the world that we're and if we're looking at as we go through there as we speak right now, we have base station going on.
09:37:12 Okay.
09:37:16 We're talking about civil events and those kinds of things that which we just need to become more knowledgeable as we get through.
09:37:22 There but we certainly, as a fire service goes again. We went through a great weekend from the fire service side of things.
09:37:29 It's nice and warm out there it is fall, but but we're still going back into 80 again this weekend, and I can tell accounts so I can be certainly word of caution folks.
09:37:40 It's dry out there. The nice thing about Jefferson County is it's pretty Humidity has been really high. It's the rest of the world.
09:37:45 The Oregon and Eastern Washington That's dealing with some some definite fire issues as they go through there.
09:37:23 Thank you.
09:37:55 Thank you, Chief Mccarn
09:37:59 I I would like to make a couple of comments, and that makes should make a motion, I suppose.
09:38:05 But yeah, I'm I'm just continually impressed with first responders.
09:38:12 People who you know it, and at the first site of of something that is, you know, sometimes tragic, and the the hardest thing any one of us Can expect.
09:38:22 You folks literally rush right into it, and that is not how most humans respond, myself included.
09:38:30 I think, by an impulse, is to run the other direction, and you are the ones that that head straight in, and I was thinking a lot about the the folks out, you know, searching
the Waters this weekend and you know, I mean it's just I I imagine there are are fewer happy endings than there
09:38:47 are difficult ones in the situations that you deal with, and just have an incredible amount of respect for for that impulse that we all benefit. From.
09:38:56 So. So. Thank you.
09:39:01 But I don't. I don't have any word as profound as that.
09:39:03 But it is, you know, without first first responders. I've learned in working with Jeff Com, you know, on the administrative level about kind of the the backbone that that that
takes people into this kind of vocation and it inspires me every time I I just sit and talk policy.
09:39:20 With with with you folks. But yeah, as as Kate says, the folks that run into the fire instead of running out of the fire that run into the crisis, they are the people that keep
us safe and really do appreciate your service, and and those of your of your people
09:39:37 Would anyone like to make a motion sure I'll make a motion that we approve the proclamation a national day of service and remembrance?
09:39:44 Second all in favor. Alright passes unanimously.
09:39:51 Thank you so much, gentlemen. Thank you. Maybe this is a good moment mark to do our other little service recognition Sure a moment. Yes.
09:40:02 Why don't you start
09:40:06 As we do every year. We had an an an employee recognition week, and every day of that week leaders in the county do various things on behalf of the employees.
09:40:21 each department conducts activities to recognize the employees that work in that department, and we had our county picnic at it.
09:40:29 HD. Carol Park, as we always do, and during that picnic we recognize employees for their years of service to the, to the county and to the citizens that live in the county,
and as well attended, as it was there were some folks that were not able to attend and 2 of them are sitting
09:40:47 in this room Carolyn. I was in Hawaii, and so we can't blame her for not being there, and Kate's were about side.
09:40:57 I'm not sure what she was doing, but it was probably something super important But I'm gonna recognize both of them this morning by giving them their service pins.
09:41:06 Kate for 5 years, and Carolyn for 10.
09:41:11 Thank you, Mark.
09:41:16 One thing about these pins say how many years of service.
09:41:22 so we'll have a little piece that is below again.
09:41:25 It does in the middle. Oh.
09:41:35 thank you. Which is actually been a lot longer than 5 years.
09:41:37 But in this role 5 years I was a contractor for years before, and we're not done yet, because Mark was up there handing out the pins to his department so I'll come over.
09:41:57 There but we would also like to recognize Mark for 5 years of service, and in leadership here at the county, and I'm particularly grateful that he stepped up to serve as our
county administrator, and our last for a county, administrator so with much pride Mark appreciate the opportunity
09:42:21 Oh, you okay, do. They just stick it right in?
09:42:25 Yeah, they found it into your chest. Yes, hello. It heals quickly.
09:42:29 They're not that long. Okay, with all the common circumstance out of it out of the way for the morning, we can turn to our forestry agenda item that we pulled, and maybe I can.
09:42:50 Just say I took another scan of it. So what we're proposing with this contract extension is that chickadee forestry do an update to the forest for the future plan that was done
11 years ago and this First tranche of work will be to kind of assess what's on
09:43:11 the ground, and make initial recommendations, for you know whether I don't know if you guys have reviewed that report.
09:43:18 But principally the tracks of land were recommended to stay in the harvest harvest rotation for Dnr.
09:43:27 And then, if you were recommended to be trustland transferred or put into a recreation status.
09:43:33 So we just want to take another look at all those tracks of land, and then, in addition to those, the county forest lands that we know that there are a few more parcels coming
over through the trust line trans release. Process.
09:43:47 that I've been working on with staff and just do kind of a level set of where we're at with all the tracks of land, And then there's the next step is that Mallory would come
to a presentation.
09:43:59 To us, and then a recommendation of what the next steps are.
09:44:02 And in this written document she proposes to do that the week of November fourteenth.
09:44:08 So I feel like we've talked about this being a good pass forward to kind of first of all, level set.
09:44:13 What's on the ground, and then and then to talk about kind of management options. And that's what we're proposing. Through this extended scope for Mallory
09:44:26 Bye something. Okay. And I'll start my saying I I have worked with Mallory for many, many years and have a ton of respect for her and her skills, and I'm not questioning that
at all I'm I'm a little a little conservative about the the scope or
09:44:47 the purpose being to make recommendations which I think are extremely political, and the, you know, have have big ramifications, and have the ability to inflame a lot of a lot
of concerns and information and misinformation in the community.
09:45:11 so I you know I think we could perhaps resolve that by being very, very careful and how we craft the an analysis and study that's being done.
09:45:24 but I think there's if we're not very careful.
09:45:27 This could end up going differently than we hope and anticipate, because it's
09:45:41 Hmm. Yeah, I just think there's a lot of a lot of concern about any conclusions that work we fund.
09:45:48 It comes to, or recommendations, even if we don't adopt them for this to be a county documents with recommendations, I think, is might be more heat than some of those folks
want to take on too.
09:46:00 so I guess that's my main concern. Is, do.
09:46:04 Are we really asking for recommendations? Or do we want to get information that we then do the analysis on for how we want to proceed
09:46:16 I guess to add to that I share. I share that concern.
09:46:21 I also my impression was in chickity, was kind of at capacity, managing our existing lands.
09:46:28 We just up that contract, and that is great work. That's very similar.
09:46:33 And I'm just I'm not sure if we want to have an Rfp.
09:46:38 For this or this would work, you know, kind of partially to head awesome of the political ramifications, you know, as we know, I mean, I I'm not sure if you guys, got a card
But I mean the forest industry is actually lobbying and It gives some of these efforts now so
09:46:53 it's got to create just this back and forth, and very binary set of choices.
09:47:01 When I think we want to understand the landscape as you even talked about.
09:47:04 So I think we're agreed on what we want to get that timeframe is sounds aggressive to really get that information processed and I don't know if I would Matt rather take a pause,
put together.
09:47:17 An Rfp. Where we can say these are the exact things that we want out of this report.
09:47:21 As a group, and then maybe chickadee is is the most appropriate contractor Still, or maybe it's in Nrg.
09:47:28 Or you know someone that Heyfrc comes up. I mean, I don't.
09:47:33 I don't know who the appropriate contractor is right now, but I guess I just feel that well Chickadee and Mallory and the team that she has behind her I think, have done.
09:47:45 A great job managing our forests, you know, even using the force of the future as the template for this report makes it pretty political, and I just I I just want to proceed
with caution more than speed so what do you guys recommend.
09:48:07 As a next step
09:48:10 Because I felt like we were taking the cautious approach so
09:48:18 By bringing it to us on November fourteenth, with just where all those those timber stands are at cool
09:48:26 I think it'd be helpful for us to workshop what and maybe kind of work backwards.
09:48:35 What what information do we need in order to come up with a purpose Proposal for Dnr.
09:48:40 And okay, given that whether it's in the form of an Rfp.
09:48:52 Or looking at this contract, and saying, Is this the right entity to work with like?
09:48:59 And I would actually, I think there's some good work to draw from from the course for the future report.
09:49:04 But I think if we I don't think we should necessarily use that as the template.
09:49:09 I think we need to, you know, really think separately about what do we need?
09:49:14 Regardless of what's in place already. That's gonna give us the best information to get to the outcome.
09:49:21 So as I think it's easy to get kind of we lose perspective if we if we start from one document, that might not be exactly what we need, and I think there is a lot there that's
really useful.
09:49:35 but I guess I would. I would be interested in us workshoping more kind of from the ground up the the process and the product.
09:49:43 So that's what I just said. I was thinking that we were gonna do on November fourteenth.
09:49:46 So we're gonna get a sense of where all those tracks of lands are, whether they've been harvested since that report was done just because that was a conference, a report of
the current state of those tracks of land at that time, taking the recommendations out of it So but where have
09:50:02 we come in the last 11 years with some of those lands, and then go from there in terms of management.
09:50:07 Recommendations; But if that's not, if we wanna do any other process, I just wanna clear understanding of what is different, because I feel like, I listen to you guys.
09:50:20 And then try and design a process that reflects what I hear, and wanting more input into the process.
09:50:30 I think I would love to talk. We approve this contract about what do we expect to have on I'm never been beforete, you say.
09:50:39 Just where are those lands, I mean, or is that? Is that the most important thing Right now?
09:50:44 I I think what are the working lands that we need I mean, there's a a bunch of different umhm bits of information that we might prioritize.
09:50:54 So for me, Maybe I don't think I'm not sure we can finish that here, but if we have time this afternoon talking about, what do we expect to see out of that specifically to inform
the workshop on November fourteenth I mean I love the aggressive, timeline, and
09:51:08 then, maybe if we just take some time to write down what we want to see, that would be great.
09:51:18 That works for me. Okay, if we have time this afternoon. Well, continuing this discussion, I see our friends from the sheriff's office have joined us It's nice to see you in
person Hi!
09:51:32 Guys, Okay, it's 9, 51. We have a time to item at 10 o'clock, for a closed session.
09:51:44 So do we want to take a little recess until yeah, we could do a breakfast time at high high points. Maybe. Yeah, it's been a couple of weeks.
09:51:56 Hmm, and so
09:52:03 Who wants to start with briefing. Well, can we talk a little bit about this afternoon because we do have Attorney General above Ferguson is doing an update for counties on the
opioid settlements at one pm Do We want to think about pushing the secure real schools?
09:52:24 Discussion to 2, maybe, so that we could attend the ages session like just do it, live in our session here?
09:52:34 Yeah, we could. Whoever wants to come back at one, it is.
09:52:41 Yep, and it's a one today, not noon.
09:52:47 Correct. Okay, I didn't catch that. It wasn't notice, though, but we're in public session.
09:53:02 Yes, I can attend this meeting yeah, I'm not taking it from here.
09:53:03 That's how a lot of counties do those. Yeah.
09:53:06 Monday Sessions.
09:53:13 fine, maybe during your Yeah, Thank you. I'd be.
09:53:20 I'd be open for coming back, for that anticipated to take an hour It is scheduled for an hour about it That meeting on their screen that would be sharing it.
09:53:35 Is it? Yeah, or it would be streaming. Here, Figure out how to stream that one
09:53:52 With audio yeah, double zoom, getting fancy in advance.
09:53:57 That is, that sounds like it would work. Let's try it So so we'll make that adjustment to us schedule and start the workshop on secure role.
09:54:08 Schools at 2, and join the Wasac Attorney General Ferguson.
09:54:15 Presentation on the opioid settlement at one here in the Chambers publicly.
09:54:21 So okay. And I think we will have more time to get back to the forestry contract after the closed session this morning, too.
09:54:28 Right, do we? The reason We wanted to wait until the afternoon, but fairly late morning
09:54:39 10 to 10
09:54:45 but yeah, we might have time. Seems like we could do it as part of yeah, after 1030 to click Genie: as a question.
09:54:56 So it's noticed that the meeting you guys have watching and the meeting starts to 30.
09:57:05 but I think anyone have a 3Â min update. Okay, yeah, doesn't even want to start looking back.
09:57:16 Yeah, no, I I can. I can be real quick. Looking back 2 weeks to the 20 ninth, of course, with our fifth Monday, and then I was have gone on Tuesday as Well, and this is an important
Jeff con meeting that mark can report on that was really late budget committee meeting and then
09:57:36 at the broadband Symposium on the long day.
09:57:39 So we did do, and in person triple a cog meeting Olympic area agency on aging down in Shelton.
09:57:49 So I've forgotten why one meeting used to take half the day, but now I remember driving to Shelton for an hour long meeting.
09:57:59 But did our our review of our executive director, We're really strong.
09:58:02 She's been doing a great job there and then. On Friday the big point part was met with Kptz Kate and Grim and and other board members, and such to talk about possible partnership
up at Morgan Hill and and toward the New facility at Fort Warden with Mark It's
09:58:22 it's looks really really great in there. It's a great space that they are making even more special.
09:58:27 So I'm not sure if it started special, but it's pretty special now that is coming around nicely.
09:58:33 Hmm. And then I had meeting with Sewer meeting with Bob Bob Wheeler and and Dave, and and one of the larger property owners talking about a possible construction easement which
will Good keep that keep the Sewer infrastructure out of the highway State
09:58:52 highway, which is always the goal, And that was that week, Can you say that I'm just the broadband summit, you know, I don't think that it happened. I think it's October first
I got incomplete information I looked everywhere I couldn't find I don't
09:59:06 know what it is. Huh! Did you hear that happen? Well, I did just the Usda Director said she was coming through town, or it's and as we could get together, and I couldn't because
I was in Spokane and for another meeting and I was surprised that it was so soon so I
09:59:25 wonder if something went out with the wrong date from them.
09:59:27 I'm not sure I was in a congress. You know, in a meeting when I heard about it and wrote it down, and then also the fact that I was in Shelton when it started dissuaded me from
doing all of research but I couldn't find any any in any location other
09:59:44 than Len, I mean. I guess I would have gone where where it was last time.
09:59:47 But I'll follow up September first.
09:59:53 Yeah, maybe I just missed it. Yeah, Okay, where you found it. I find it on an Oc agenda. Okay?
09:59:59 So yeah, well, they they didn't post it. Well, I found a lot of links to the 2,019.
10:00:05 One Oh, Jeeze, I know they were trying to keep it small.
10:00:08 I don't think you were meant to be excluded I was.
10:00:18 It was kind of last week is summer, you know. I was not vacationing, but not all the way here, either.
10:00:22 do you want to say anything about the week before Oh, that was the week before last week.
10:00:26 Let's see. Oh, wait! That was last week Well, we haven't since the 20Â s right right right the week before.
10:00:33 Let's see Another fairly light meeting housing Fund board, Matt, and oh, so long ago.
10:00:43 I don't know. We talked about important stuff we had the previous Jeff Con meeting.
10:00:50 We've had a couple couple, and that's what prompted the the meeting I missed last week.
10:00:56 we'll talk about similar issues here. But you know, hiring and retention is is the big, The big problem at Jeff Calm. Right now.
10:01:05 They're about half-staffed right now, and it's starting to really impact service.
10:01:11 had a meeting with Erica from once the bank craft, 3 about some a program they're looking at, which would open up more conservation funds and and financing and special meeting
of holy cap and I greatly enjoyed the employee lunch at H. J.
10:01:34 Carol Park, and those were my high points. And we, of course, had a special meeting on on Friday just to to get the letter done.
10:01:47 Contract done I mean the lease with the only cap, and that was my week before, and that's good timing is 10 o'clock, so we're gonna enter into our closed session, so I guess
we turn the owl off or what do we do to close our sessions Okay.
10:02:10 okay, So we're gonna go into closed session with County administrator, human resources director, under sheriff and jail superintendent to discuss collective bargaining, professional
negotiations, or grievous grievance, or mediation proceedings or to review the proposals made
10:02:25 in negotiations or proceedings while in progress, not subject to the Pope and Public Meetings act as outlined in Rcw.
10:02:34 42 point, 140 parentheses, 4 parentheses.
10:02:38 B. We're going into this closed session at 10 o'clock, and we will come out at 10.
10:33:47 online, watching getting Caroline. Phone meeting. They can't hear me. But on Zoom, they'll be able to hear me.
10:33:55 Better. Okay, So I talked to Robert Ehrlichman over your during your closed session, and she concurs that yes, we'll be able to cause we commissioners Can add items throughout
the day on a regular meeting this would be treated as such just an additional business
10:34:14 item And so she's okay to us, going forward with that, We'll have to try to have one of you guys share your screen and then do it from there.
10:34:27 So logistically. If it works out, then we have a green light on both. Right?
10:34:32 I I suggested, and she also recommended a public comment period after that portion.
10:34:38 Because you have. I added the item, even though there's no action on it.
10:34:41 You might want to take public comment at the end. Okay.
10:34:48 Great, Okay, Okay, So it's 1 point, 2, No worries.
10:34:56 1033, and we're back together, and we had begun briefing at the before the last item, which is a was a closed session.
10:35:08 Hey, do you? Wanna I think, Greg, you were done with briefing correct for the 2 previous weeks.
10:35:16 Okay, do you wanna, fill us in on what you did for the last couple of weeks?
10:35:18 Sure. Yeah, Okay, see, continuing to work with or an Olympic legislative alliance coming up with our local priorities.
10:35:36 I did make a note of this regional waste issue.
10:35:40 Wonder if that's something that's not. I'll I'll consider adding that.
10:35:45 So we well, it comes together. Mid September. We will have a number of proposals to, consider and decide as a group what our priorities are.
10:35:59 I did meet with Lindsay so, and Warren from Port Angeles and John Morrow to decide on some housing priorities, and that's still in draft form.
10:36:12 But maybe you'll get that to you, Greg, to see if you have any input that we could talk about.
10:36:19 Maybe next week. Sure there will be a regard regarding the regional septage capacity analysis.
10:36:26 We are gonna work on a draft study bill with department of ecology.
10:36:30 Okay, just so, you know, Great: Okay, And that's the kind of thing that we could get no less support on.
10:36:38 it sounds like if you don't anticipate a lot of challenge to that Maybe it's not needed that that added capacity and support.
10:36:44 So we'll see joined a conference call with Congressman Kilmer that believe you were on also Greg, and he was talking about the Recompete act and really encouraging our region
to come up with a proposal for specifically around job
10:37:07 retention or job creation for prime age workers. So Nodc.
10:37:13 Is taking a look at that That's up It's a 1 billion dollars, and the chips act for 10 regions across the country to be funded at a 100,000,01010,000,000 a year, for 10 years
for pretty major shifts and workforce development and but it includes things.
10:37:34 Like housing and child care, and it's really broad.
10:37:38 It'll be administered by the economic Development Administration.
10:37:39 So yeah, yeah, some. Some brought out lines in the legislation.
10:37:45 But no real writing It's been done yet. So, taking a close look at that, and Odc is in a good position to potentially apply for that, you know, because it was Kilmer's baby
through Congress, he really wants to see this region, get a successful application, in So we'll be hearing more about
10:38:03 that
10:38:08 finding I think he was. That was a big part of build.
10:38:09 Your coalitions, and, as you say, perfect. Yeah, Yeah, and could be even a larger scope could include Grace Harbor or mason, or you know more of the Peninsula.
10:38:20 So, or other, or other rural counties, that we, you know, have a similar economic development vision, too.
10:38:28 So that is, in process. So you're trying to high grade here an update on the child care which we have both devoted, So matching funds to, and received an earmark for the port
towns and school district voted to proceed with considering a lease for their
10:38:52 property. It's unfortunately, because they have a least notification requirement, statutory requirement of 45 days.
10:39:00 We will miss the Grants proposal, Deadline, that for this round of funding, but that is still in process and there there's an annual grant cycle for childcare facilities.
10:39:13 So it it pushes it out a little while, but the only real concern with that is that there is a match requirement with the earmark.
10:39:24 So anything that goes through Usda or held to their formula for your region, which is, they can only fund a certain percentage based on the economic kind of criteria of your
county.
10:39:35 So we're gonna be needing about $700,000 in match.
10:39:40 We just have to find out when we need that buy. So hopefully, commerce funding would align with that timing.
10:39:47 But bit of an unknown right. Now let's see.
10:39:54 just acted like a teenager for a few days over the we weekend at things.
10:40:04 Very fun. I'm a mom. Had a good conversation with couple of folks from the housing solutions network to They're interested in this idea of a housing office or funding housing
staff person and so they're gonna work with the housing fund board see about bring a presentation just their needs
10:40:24 and I don't know that it will be in the form of a job description, which is what we talked about in Housing Fund board, but some some version of this.
10:40:34 Is What where they see. The need is. I spent 2 days last week in Spokane in a pub, a board of Health training, and I will report on this in Board of Health in more detail.
10:40:47 With Amanda Grace, Who's our new Board of Health member? Aj.
10:40:50 Was not able to join after all, but only 7 of 35 local health jurisdictions have completed their statutory requirement to expand their boards of health.
10:41:03 So good job us. We are one of the 7 across the State.
10:41:10 Yeah, yeah, And yeah, that's true. And we actually haven't done the appointments yet.
10:41:13 So, technically, we haven't. But we've done, you know, most of the work, including so Dr. Paul Cunningham, from the Jamestown tribe, will be our tribal representative, Yeah,
which I was able to spend some time with him in Spokane and got to know him a little bit and with
10:41:27 Vicki Low who, you know, facilitates that appointment process.
10:41:31 So that is decided and well underway. Yep, Yep.
10:41:36 So a lot of good training there, and how to do tribal consultation, and specifically tribal roles on board of health.
10:41:45 There's gonna be some more rule writing done for that as well.
10:41:50 But you know, I think we're ahead of the curve often, and how we consult with tribes already, so I don't anticipate any issues coming up.
10:41:59 There, let's see. I'll have to look through my notes to for our.
10:42:04 We did request to report out time on the board health agenda, so more to come there.
10:42:12 And let's see. Oh, that was 2 days last week.
10:42:17 Yeah, I think that's the important high points. Last couple of weeks.
10:42:21 Can I make one more addition to my report? Well, it was super brief, and maybe Mark wants to go into this more at the meeting with Kptz with an ask that, that is kind of being
worked on after the fact, for you know resilience, and redundancy and emergency management to support efforts at
10:42:39 Morgan Hill on kind of donated city property, where we apparently have a a small quantitative or something that we don't really maybe use right now.
10:42:49 And so we're doing, research But there will be an ask before us coming up.
10:42:53 They initially wanted us to do the construction We pushed back against it a little a little bit about that, but the the funds that they're looking forward to to kind of build
the the room for their new antenna up there seem reasonable to both mark and I and Willie gave strong endorsement
10:43:10 as a as a necessary project as well, so that will be coming back to us within a month. I guess.
10:43:16 Yeah, Sounds Good: Hmm: Okay. So the last couple of weeks feel very long to me.
10:43:28 I feel like I packed summer into 2 weeks. So the week before last did some work with the team on recruiting our new central services Director, and we had a few candidates so
I'm not sure exactly where we are today on that but maybe mark, will give an update in his briefing after
10:43:50 me had a conversation with solid waste about support for people who have difficulty getting rid of their residential garbage, and how to set up a program through either about
your system or some kind of a kind of more promoted program within the county that only cap and the community foundation
10:44:16 and so our solid waste department, and we could direct people to, so that they would know where to go to apply for that kind of system for disposing of their residential garbage.
10:44:28 You mean? Beyond what we'll fit in a curbside bucket, or being able to pay for it.
10:44:35 Oh, in the county. Gotcha right is is tipping fees and taking a track to the dump is sometimes too expensive for people to be able to.
10:44:44 Afford Okay, So that's actually support for people just to those are garbage.
10:44:50 Is, that is, is cost the identified barrier there more than kind of.
10:44:57 I mean, there's mental health issues, and it is a barrier.
10:45:00 There is and there are a number of St. Vincent and holy cap bands, community foundations for their community advocacy have specific requests from residents asking for this kind
of support.
10:45:16 All the time. So do we know how many county residents do get curbside versus delivering their own.
10:45:31 Find that out, although all Karen was saying that he he pays $350 a year for us.
10:45:42 32 gallon, or you know some certain size curbside.
10:45:45 Ben, and I was like Well, I don't spend $350 a year in garbage fees, you know.
10:45:51 We take our own to the dump, so I don't know. It is a good question.
10:45:55 I don't know how many people and it's so like people often complain that we you know had to remove the Recycling Down in Brennan and they want garbage back in Brennan or at
the end of coil and and you know Curbside
10:46:14 is usually cheaper than the carbon footprint Costs of driving in 40Â min in I'm shifted into my rooms right Yeah, and weren't those abused. Oh, or part of the reason the less.
10:46:27 Managed it is the more contamination, worse are recycling it, or just you know, nasty garbage someone has to clean up.
10:46:35 Yeah, I feel like this started this conversation room. Me started because of the whole one.
10:46:39 11 Price Street, the end of Price Street, and all the efforts to clean that up, which is a total success story, and has really improved over the last 6 months.
10:46:48 But I feel like I spend a lot of my time talking about residential garbage now, so let's see. Also.
10:46:57 2 weeks ago, attended a town Hall style. Conversation with Representative Kilmer on farming and organic seed issues in the community.
10:47:13 that was very interesting, interesting, and also fun to see Derek get on a tractor have to drive a tractor that day, so that was probably the highlight of his week that week
and then the other highlight That week is I went and participated in ian's ride
10:47:31 out. On the Olympic discovery Trail took my friend Marty Gay, who's in a wheelchair because of his stroke, and we had a great time on the trail together and finally got to see
this first railroad section of the ott so that was that was
10:47:45 awesome. I did get a fast chair. Other people in chairs for that, to give you the whole experience.
10:47:56 I was thinking of be on bike or something? No, no, everybody within.
10:47:59 Yeah, right? And really only. And I appreciate the roots in the trail of your 4 wheel.
10:48:05 yeah. So I also participated in thing for one day, so enjoyed that.
10:48:13 That's fine to hear Modest Mouse again.
10:48:15 I think the last time I heard him was in the mid nineties, when I was at Evergreen.
10:48:20 So. And then last week I endeavoured to take a few days off, which was fairly successful, and did call in for a number of meetings, including the Budget Committee meeting, and
I'm on this taxing district focus group of the dnr trust land transfer work.
10:48:39 I've been doing so, participating with a number of other counties and taxing districts and conversations about the way trust land transfer will be rolled out, and how it impacts
tax junior taxing districts another trust land transfer call on Thursday afternoon got together with representative there under to deep
10:49:02 refund on the Trustland Transfer provides a work group on Thursday late afternoon, and then met with Senator Van Der Wagh as well.
10:49:18 a lot of stuff around that trust land transfer provides a work group. In the last week.
10:49:23 I felt like I finally had the time to have the conversations that I've been needing to have, and and then good long weekends, my puppy had the best day of his life so far on
Saturday swam and swam and like crescent and Lake Sutherland
10:49:41 jumped up, Docs. So that was good. And I have finish my apprenticeship as a a farm.
10:49:52 Ballard farmers, market farm stand crew for a spring rain farm, and I have moved more tomatoes than I have ever seen in my life.
10:49:58 Over this last 6 weeks, so it is tomato season.
10:50:04 People and enjoy those tomatoes, because I think we're gonna have a long tomato season this year, so I will turn the microphone over to mark to hear what he's been doing in
the last couple.
10:50:14 Of weeks, but I just wanted to leave my briefing and just saying I was really grateful for the employee.
10:50:22 Appreciation, picnic and we went up to lunch as a team at Commissioner's office team, and just having more time to reflect on the value of our team and and thank you Carolyn
for all your work and everyone is listening down at the other end of the building and mark I mean We have
10:50:39 I think we have a really great team here, and I think I found myself appreciating that more over the last couple of weeks as well.
10:50:48 so my ball alright. I guess we're going back 2 weeks to the week of the twenty-second.
10:50:54 So that whole week I I had 3 different medical appointments, one dental, one ophthalmology, and and then dermatology. I had another.
10:51:05 2 irregular moles cut out, that makes 6 in the last 5 months.
10:51:10 Does that mean? Maybe we can reduce your salary, because there's less of you now, Right?
10:51:17 I would just say to the people listening, that you know the sun can create a lot of damage, and as you get older, The accumulated exposure to the sun can create difficulties.
10:51:29 Melanomas and other kinds of cancers. So I would just recommend that you hit the dermatologist and have have your skin looked over, because that's a pretty serious problem.
10:51:41 If you if you have it. Okay. So then on the twenty-third Heidi and I and Sarah and Steve Worthington meant to talk about candidates for the central services position we selected
3 out of 5 for interviews we then shared the candidates.
10:52:03 With central services, and incidentally they picked the same 3 sadly. I was informed that one of the candidates has hold his application.
10:52:16 I did call that person on the phone and had a good conversation that we didn't complete, and I hope to speak with that candidate again tomorrow, to hopefully change his mind
and have him stay in the race that was on Tuesday and then of course We went to the here's a plug for
10:52:39 a local new business. The Green Crow for tacos, which staff Tacos were outstanding.
10:52:48 Wednesday I had nothing scheduled, no meetings, so I was able to do work on the Rfq.
10:52:56 For consultant to help us develop our community wildfire protection plans.
10:53:01 I'm I've shifted to doing an Rfp.
10:53:04 Because I'm certain that whatever quotes or bids we get, will exceed a 100,000, and according to our local procurement ordinance, we have to do an Rfp.
10:53:15 For that. So, rather than do an Rfq. And then have to go back out for an Rfp.
10:53:19 I'm just making the change now before I put that out to the consultant, that world consideration.
10:53:28 Then on Thursday, the 20 fifth, we had a Jeff Com board meeting, and then on the 26, I took all the central services people to mode chilling Barbecue, which was, I think, I
took 12 of them so that was a good time, and then met with Brent.
10:53:49 Butler Weekly meeting with him. That department has so much going on, more so than I think in the 5 years I've been here.
10:53:58 So they're working very hard. Okay, week of the 20 ninth.
10:54:04 No meeting on Monday, because it was the fifth Monday Alright had a meeting on security with the Courthouse Security Committee and Commissioners I'll be coming to you very soon
in Workshop Format to make a proposal to you for courthouse Security the difference from the current
10:54:29 model, and and hopefully, you'll be encouraged by that proposal, and we'll give us the green light to move ahead with it.
10:54:38 met with the the 3 other governmental executives, 18 meeting, and then there was a special Jeff Com.
10:54:48 board meeting that afternoon, and I'm not a liberty really to talk about that.
10:54:55 But it was a constructed meeting, and I think, going forward Jeff Com. Will be in much better shape as a result of that meeting.
10:55:08 then Wednesday I met with the 2 gentlemen that were just here to talk about correction staffing no more on that.
10:55:22 and then Umhm. On Thursday I went out to Headlock.
10:55:29 I bought a couple of pizzas from Ferrinos and sat down and had a very nice time with them, with shop personnel.
10:55:35 That was a continuous of employee Appreciation Week. I I couldn't fit it in the week prior, So we did it.
10:55:43 yeah, last week, I think it's only one week.
10:55:46 So my gallery count. Yeah, exactly. I've yeah, some of the weight I recently lost.
10:55:51 I packed right back on, and then met with Heidi to go over agenda and and then on Friday the Kptz meeting with with Greg and I have a little research to do a regarding the the
little, installation that.
10:56:12 We apparently have on Morgan Hill. I'm so curious about that I walk up there all the time, sort of nondescript, not a very impressive thing, and we had a a Google Earth look
but resolution wasn't wasn't very good.
10:56:32 So I need
10:56:39 No, it's city property, I think. Is the impression I got, and we have it city property, and we have account.
10:56:45 We have one building on the city property, then, right? And when ham radio equipment in it, it's a repeater or something.
10:56:53 When Jeff comes split off the county, entered into agreements with Jeff Kom for the management of those resources, like the tower at Hadlock, and so on.
10:57:03 And so I just need to do a document search to see?
10:57:07 if we have an agreement with with Jeff. Com.
10:57:09 And I'll talk to Stacey, the director of and Jeff Kom to see what she knows.
10:57:14 But I know, and I owe an answer back to Kptz on that.
10:57:20 and like Greg said, within a month we should come to the board with a firm proposal for funding.
10:57:26 So that's it. Hmm! Can I chime in a couple of things that I forgot to mention?
10:57:34 one is, I somewhat hosted, and somewhat participated in the earlier portion of the day with Congressman Kilmer.
10:57:42 I don't know how I skipped that on my calendar, because it was a very and you know, put a lot of effort into giving a tour of the Port headlock sewer and I have number of community
stakeholders come out So jamie from habitat and the superintendent
10:57:58 from chimicum schools was there? Bob Wheeler did a great job of describing the progress we've made on the sewer, and Congressman Kimmer seemed to really get it, and he feels
very confident that the your mark funding will come through next year for that
10:58:15 project, So yeah. I think very successful tour got good media coverage of it, and really great showing of support from number of community partners.
10:58:26 Library was there wouldn't vote school, so we did a good job of showing the multiple benefits of that project.
10:58:35 And then at just want to mention that. And and mark this probably is a will require an ask of you.
10:58:43 there's quite a bit of interest in pursuing a pump track at the fairgrounds and at community effort to do that and support some preliminary support from the fairgrounds to proceed
with that Oh, Okay, Yeah, Yeah, it's a very popular recreational thing. Right.
10:59:02 Now, it's a kind of a terrain usually paved terrain.
10:59:08 Bike, Park. No, it Actually, can be used by any number of wheels.
10:59:16 things so oftentimes they do put aside time for wheelchairs.
10:59:23 scooters really really accessible way to get folks comfortable on bikes with a lot of different terrain.
10:59:28 But then also has some therapeutic uses, too, for non-motorized, non-motorized, entirely Portangelist: Yeah.
10:59:37 And it is hacks. It's so much. Yeah pump track our CEO is funding these all over the place right now, because they're So popular. Yeah, Yeah, Exactly.
10:59:51 so, but apparently we we have a separate lease, with little league.
10:59:58 The back corner of the fairgrounds, which is something I had not heard of So yeah, if we can do some digging, I'm not even sure where to start looking building up by the more
Jefferson county.
11:00:16 Little league. Does it have a moniker that he's Jefferson Little?
11:00:25 yeah. And I'm sure they have something out at the, you know, they're on county, on property out in Headlock, too.
11:00:31 But this would be Yeah, this would be for this fair grounds of particular.
11:00:37 yeah, they have one there. But then the what we need is to find out if they do have one for the fairgrounds that the the fair believes that they have a separate lease that they
they do not control that portion of the fair ground So do they actually play ball there they do Okay, property.
11:00:53 Conflict with the pump track. It would be good to to know the parameters of that lease, and not that I mean that nobody's talking about displacing little league whatsoever just
want to understand better who has control of what and you know because there's parking
11:01:11 concerns, and so they will very well could be a grant application going in for design and planning funds for this that will come before us to consider other thing about the
fairgrounds.
11:01:28 Mark sounds like that. Our license agreement, or least that we have with the fair board, is coming up, and so.
11:01:36 If you could connect with Danny. They wanna start on that process.
11:01:40 They also have some insurance issues coming. They've had trouble with their insurance recently, so might be good to touch base and see how if there's any possibility for risk
pool you know, coverage, or so just be great.
11:01:55 If you and Danny could connect on a couple of potential changes to that contract Well, that's what we should start talking about.
11:02:04 Yeah, it's a pretty benign agreement, I I think, when he was introduced to the public at a board meeting, we talked about a 5 year.
11:02:15 Versus I mean what it used to be. We did annual.
11:02:17 Then we went to 3, and so for his, for his peace of mind, and his planning horizon.
11:02:25 A 5 year makes sense and we opt how much we we pay.
11:02:32 the Phar Association, because the State auditor at 1 point said that our organization with them, where our treasurer and auditor did work for them was improper and so, we had
to cut them loose and because we were no longer providing the the accounting or treasury services we up to what We paid Them
11:02:53 annually, I think, from some amount up to 1010,000, but but certainly I need to make a trip out there and introduce myself and get that ball rolling great.
11:03:03 And Yes, we should think about their other changes. We want to consider.
11:03:10 Yeah, okay, those were the only 2 important things to get my head back in the game.
11:03:14 Here, after a long weekend. Okay? Well, I have images of a pump track here so can consider me educated.
11:03:30 Now Hmm! Well, that's it's good to hear that we're thinking about things like a pump track, because I'm I've been hearing a lot of like rumors like the county's gonna do hi
density housing at the fairground.
11:03:45 And I'm like we haven't even had one conversation about that I mean, high density like Hi Rise apartment buildings, you know, and I I just bye have you guys had any conversations.
11:03:59 About them Yeah, I mean, I think that's why we had Danny out was because you know, here's swirling around that I can't.
11:04:06 I can't verify or operate where they came from.
11:04:08 Yeah, I mean, I think that the a conversation I've heard had here for 24 years is, you know, many, many counties have moved there fairgrounds to r more rural place, because
you know they often were in a county seat when the county.
11:04:26 Seat used to be where you know you draw from the agricultural crowd to come to town for a weekend, and you know now we think cities, or maybe where the density should go, and
something that serves the agricultural community might be better used in in rural areas so I
11:04:44 that you know kind of highest and best use something. People have often looked at the fairgrounds and said, Why, you know, should should that be for high density housing?
11:04:52 But there's never been an initiative towards that or any county effort, certainly, to explore that.
11:04:59 Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, I hear talk that there's gonna be a project regarding the golf course.
11:05:07 Oh, man! What should the golf course be? Should it be a golf?
11:05:17 Yeah, and I and you know the exciting thing about the leadership at the fairgrounds right now is that there's a lot of talk about making it more widely used, you know, yeah,
accessible to more organizations.
11:05:30 There's a new preschool starting there, and there's just a lot of great activity, happening.
11:05:35 Community interest. Yeah, So resisted, I think before. So, yeah, that's wonderful.
11:05:45 Yeah, me, too. Hmm: Just wanted us to say that out loud.
11:05:49 So that okay, we can help the spell. The rumors about us
11:05:56 anything else. When do we wanna look forward? Sure? Can I ask a follow up question?
11:06:03 So is Dave Calldo retiring. Did that.
11:06:07 I I Dave Kdal retiring, Okay, give us the whole story. Could you really? Quick?
11:06:15 Well, I hipaa precludes me from talking about his current circumstance, but he's he's had some health difficulties, and those difficulties continue.
11:06:28 he has felt bad in the past about taking 2 months off, 3 months off for rehab and recoup and whatnot.
11:06:38 he feels it's time. And so I think his retirement date is 31 October.
11:06:47 yeah, county employees were very generous and have donated at last, Count, I think, 195Â h of Pto.
11:06:55 Or vacation, and the account may be higher now. And there's also the family State family, medical leave and whatnot that will take care of him.
11:07:09 And if he has 80Â h in October, then he has health care.
11:07:13 Through the end of November. And so yeah, I wanted to do what we could to take care of Dave and the the the workforce has responded magnificently to that.
11:07:23 And I think, that all county email just went out this morning from Rene on behalf of Dave, saying, Thank you for your generosity.
11:07:33 And so, yeah, it says a lot about our workforce that they would do such a thing on, I mean, in days the hours piled up I mean, I'm proud of our people Oh, that's great but I
I wish we had an opportunity, to shower.
11:07:47 Him, Well, we'll be back He won't be a stranger.
11:07:51 I I think the procedure he needs is taking place tomorrow.
11:07:56 and in between now and the thirty-first.
11:08:00 I'm sure he'll be in the building. So okay, maybe it a board meeting.
11:08:03 We could call them up and humiliate and embarrass him. So thank you for asking I appreciate that
11:08:15 Okay, So hey? You want to start off again. Wanna: Stick with our old order.
11:08:24 I'll jump in. Hmm! And maybe look look a couple of weeks out of there like long periods where you're out for a day or out for multiple days.
11:08:36 Sure Yeah, And I do have a lot of that this month.
11:08:38 so a bit of a short week this week. Just nice, although it's I I'm missing a bunch of meeting Tuesday meetings today.
11:08:45 It's you throwing me off. So tomorrow, Wednesday it will be providing some input to a process.
11:08:55 The Conservation Commission is seeking Input on the riparian rule.
11:09:02 So last session, the Lorraine Loomis Act was introduced pretty major shift in how we manage riparian areas is a big priority of the governors.
11:09:14 It did not get much traction, because very little work had been done to work with stakeholders.
11:09:21 So the Conservation Commission was tasked with trying to get more more input. Yep.
11:09:26 So I'll be providing that formally tomorrow, and open to feedback, either of you have on that.
11:09:33 It's a confusing one of which hat am I wearing?
11:09:37 Am I representing counties, or am I representing theuted some partnership, or am I representing us so?
11:09:42 It's not always evidence. Let's see, Transit Advisory group is tomorrow afternoon I will be attending the audit exit conference for Jta transit authority.
11:09:55 I'm not sure if either of you are playing to attend.
11:09:58 I know they did notice that. I'm planning on attending what great on Wednesday?
11:10:02 Yes, 2. Yep, yep! And sounds like there are no findings.
11:10:09 We found out late last week, so hey, but it 2. There's a finance for me Audit conferences at 1230 in finance is a day.
11:10:20 I wasn't doing the audits, because she said they didn't.
11:10:24 I? I said, you don't have to notice it. I I don't have to go, so Are you sure they noticed it?
11:10:30 Well, I I decided to go, and I think that triggered a forum.
11:10:35 Okay, Jefferson: Transit: Authority: Hmm: I'm not going to be X account.
11:10:39 Okay, And I I was why I wanted to attend what it sounded like.
11:10:44 There was some possibility of a finding, and then, without it afterwards, there wasn't a finding, so maybe didn't really need to be noticed.
11:10:50 And I might not have attended had there not been a finding, and I know there was not a finding.
11:10:53 But I just you know it's nice to to know if there is a finding.
11:10:57 Why and what we need to do to resolve it.
11:11:02 Thursday. Let's see. I'll be doing a bit of a holdover from a previous role with the Puget Sound partnership.
11:11:11 There's a land, Use subcommittee that I still you hang on.
11:11:15 I can't seem to let go of just really interested in better kind of regional planning for growth and density, and in the future sun region.
11:11:27 So it's a useful conversation, but really complicated. Hurts my head, just thinking about it.
11:11:33 then be presenting to the Jefferson County Bar Association midday on Thursday about kind of state of the county, and a leadership council briefing. Friday.
11:11:49 I meet with my legislative, steering committee, co-chair, and called Jewel our new legislative director for Wasack. We'll hear about this afternoon I'm sure to finalize our
plan for our legislative steering committee retreat Congressman kimer is here
11:12:04 for Friday afternoon. Not sure if, either of you are planning to attend that with the chamber.
11:12:10 Oh, okay. It is at Fort Warden Chapel.
11:12:16 I declined that. Okay, So basically, around this week, But the next week I am out a couple of days.
11:12:29 Tuesday and Wednesday for a put some partnership Leadership Council meeting in Oak Harbor.
11:12:35 I think. Then the following week I'm also gone for a night or so and maybe actually, maybe it's not a night.
11:12:42 Maybe it's just a half day retreat, and Ellensburg for the legislative steering committee retreats to finalize our I guess we won't be finalizing We'll be discussing our our
legislative agenda for the regional
11:13:01 well, that more, Nola, although yeah it's probably too late to get that on a Lsc.
11:13:07 But I think Nola could be a good match for that.
11:13:11 So yeah, definitely feels like back to school for for me, too.
11:13:16 It's things are really picking up. I think everybody says, let's not do it in August. Let's do it in September, And then, all of a sudden, September is yes, crazy but it's good
It's a nice summer.
11:13:28 Of not too much, Didn't feel to demanding.
11:13:33 So back at it.
11:13:36 Great. Yeah, it feels to me to like everything takes a little bit of a break in the summer.
11:13:42 But coming back. Let's see. Meeting with Chief Black for lunch today, and then tomorrow.
11:13:52 Have not be a curious one. I was invited by the Washington State Institute of Public Policy to have a wilderness therapy discussion as part of the empowered teens coalition
down in quilting so looking forward to that conversation wow developer meeting for 7 Hendricks on
11:14:10 Wednesday, and then agenda, planning for the Board of Health.
11:14:13 The subsequent week, and then I'll join you guys for the finance committee meeting, and then Thursday.
11:14:21 I'll actually make my first behavioral health consortium meetings and some the departure of Laurie and I have surprisingly open Friday.
11:14:30 Maybe I will be able to join the Kilmer.
11:14:32 I'm not sure. And then next week we have oh, tourism coordinating Council!
11:14:41 we have the housing fund boards, Rfp.
11:14:44 For the 149 49 has been opened.
11:14:47 Need to send out a note to all the housing providers, but we have a call in date that I'll participate in for any questions that any housing providers have.
11:14:55 At? What is it? 3 o'clock on Wednesday, the fourteenth?
11:14:59 Well as Orca and the Finance Committee means Orca, and there's a couple conflicting, groundbreakings Next Wednesday afternoon.
11:15:08 There's the land of street groundbreaking from habitat, with habitat for humanity.
11:15:12 And I think also the point. Hudson Breakwater groundbreaking is at the exact same time, so we'll decide I don't know.
11:15:21 Maybe next week we can split those. So ceremonial duties up.
11:15:25 Yeah, I am away that day I was planning on sending them.
11:15:31 The right point had soon Yep, and that sounds perfect.
11:15:39 yeah, and yeah, you and down there it's your to your neck of the woods.
11:15:45 only Cap Wednesday evening, and then another conflict.
11:15:50 On Thursday we have the Board of Health Meeting. We also have an in-person all day.
11:15:54 Timber counties. Caucus meeting that I guess I won't go to, or I'll try to zoom into the beginning, unless maybe he wants to go down to Olympia instead of going to board, of
health.
11:16:05 It wasn't planning on it. And then are we hosting the Icg meeting No, it's port towns.
11:16:14 And again, doesn't ask about the Board of Health that's still virtual.
11:16:16 All virtual talk about hybrid. We're talking hybrid, but we're still working.
11:16:18 Okay, and then so. And how's America, and probably join the the farm tour, And that's that's next week.
11:16:35 So I guess we just wanted to attend the timber counties, or I'll try to zoom in I'll ask for a zoom.
11:16:40 They made one for me last time. So that's what's coming up.
11:16:45 Okay, So this week, I'm thinking, maybe my 1230 audit conference was not transit.
11:16:53 It was. Oh, here on so now I have which one of you is gonna be attending the State Conference.
11:17:09 Isn't Greg or Heidi? Okay, I have Mrc tonight, and then tomorrow I have those oddity May audit meetings in the afternoon.
11:17:23 on Thursday and Friday. I'm gonna be attending the legislative outdoor recreation caucus.
11:17:29 They're coming here, and I'm going to be joining them for a field trip on Thursday afternoon, and a meeting on Friday morning at Fort Warden.
11:17:40 Wwp. And Olympic discovery trail.
11:17:45 And yeah, okay.
11:17:50 and then Friday afternoon. It's the youth and family service circle, up and then Sunday.
11:18:01 I'm attending the farmers market dinner. Okay, next week.
11:18:12 Favorite Advisory committee, Cumberlands Working Group on Wednesday Point Heads and break water groundbreaking on Wednesday afternoon, and then Thursday afternoon is a total
cluster which is why I'm not attending or not trying to attend the timber counties meeting because
11:18:32 I have a Community Foundation board meeting. I have agenda prep with Mark.
11:18:36 We have Board of health, and then we have an Icg meeting Thursday evening.
11:18:42 yeah, So Wednesday evening also, I'll be attending the Olympic Discovery Trail board meeting, and then on Friday I will be at Padilla Bay, for the Northwest Straits. Commission.
11:18:59 Mr. C. Conference. Oh, cool and popping out of that to attend the taxing district focus group meeting, and then weekend, maybe a couple of meetings on the weekend, hopefully
not looking ahead.
11:19:20 The following week. We have days held for interviewing our central services. Director.
11:19:26 Yeah, and that's towards the end of the month. I don't think you guys need all that
11:19:35 and then I would just be where, miss, if I didn't mention that this upcoming weekend is the Woodmo festival, and it's back back in person and jam packed full of boats.
11:19:50 So super exciting, and I did go sailing last night for the first time, and I think 3 years, and it was like the best.
11:19:55 3Â h of my life in the last 5 years. But the dear friend, dear old friend, some other sailors.
11:20:04 So it was awesome to be out on the water, and a beautiful late summer evening, with light wind and a lovely boat, small boat, and just in my happy place.
11:20:18 Yeah so enjoy the wooden boat festival everyone, and I think they still need volunteers.
11:20:23 If anyone's listening
11:20:28 What about you? Mark? What do you have coming in the next week or so?
11:20:33 Well, today's a due date for supplemental budget appropriations, and the bid by review So I'm gonna be waiting knee deep into budget matters as time permits, so to tomorrow
I I have a meeting with Rosanne and sarah Mcintyre out of it
11:20:57 to talk about gems, keeping gems functioning as we migrate to human capital management.
11:21:05 For Tyler. We need to keep gems functional because the first couple of payrolls we're gonna run in parallel to make sure that we get the same results out of both systems And
we've been doing that leading up to go live But there's an issue about whether or not we
11:21:22 need to pay for an upgrade of gems in order to keep it alive for a few months, and so that's what that meeting's about and then, it meeting with the folks at Castle Hill and
Then the entrance conference with with the State.
11:21:40 Auditor and the board should know that they've been digging into Arpa.
11:21:45 They've got the rubber gloves on, and they're doing their thing.
11:21:47 Asked us at a series of questions. One area of interest was the premium Pay a lot of questions about that, and which Judy and I've
11:22:05 We think we're doing an effective job of answering their questions and we're not aware of of any negative issues, although you never know what the state auditor you get to the
entrance conference and bing you get here's a report and here's a finding but they've been pretty
11:22:20 well communicating with us, so we have a pretty good finger on that pulse.
11:22:28 on Thursday. What do we got here? I I will attend the casual brown this week, just so that I, in touch with that progress It'll be exciting to see how well they fare now that
they have a lease and positive control, over the property.
11:22:43 How successful they are, and seeking funds for that and then agenda prep with Heidi, and then on Friday a couple of staff updates apple from public health, And Matt from facilities
and are we going into the week beyond that Yeah, if you've got big
11:23:04 chunky calendar, bits, So on the twelfth, of course, board meeting, and then on the thirteenth, Kate have We're gonna have graniteus again right That was rescheduled and then
there's a public sector cabinet meeting with cindy
11:23:21 Brooks and the a team, and then a follow on 18 meeting.
11:23:24 And then, of course, I've been invited to the Behavioral Health Advisory Board Meeting have alright, I suppose Anna has a reason for making sure I attend that one I'm not sure
I know what, the reason is yet but I'll reach out to her to find out and then on the
11:23:40 fourteenth of. Finally I get to take risk manager training, since the Board appointed me as risk manager last time they had this training.
11:23:48 It was on a Monday, and I was with with you fine folks, and couldn't do it.
11:23:54 But I will attend this time, and then I'll be a certified risk manager, and then again, agenda prep.
11:24:03 And then I I will attend the coordination meeting. But on Friday, the sixteenth, So that's and you have Icg on your calendar on the fifteenth, hey?
11:24:15 Mark. Would you be willing to take lead on the coordination meeting on the sixteenth?
11:24:20 I have a competing meeting that I have put off It's a quarterly meeting, and I've missed 2 to do coordination The Mrs Se.
11:24:30 Board meeting, sure, No problem
11:24:35 Right Well, what else do we want to talk about? It's 11 sustainable, 4, 3, Oh, yeah.
11:24:45 it's noodling on that as we've been talking, and
11:24:53 How do you? Wanna How do we wanna structure this conversation? I can say that I I have.
11:24:58 We need. We need to keep Mallory under contract, which is currently under contract.
11:25:04 We need to keep her there because she does do our sustainable forestry management for the county lands Oh, we won't even stay in that conference right?
11:25:14 So we're talking about adding a different scope to her work, right?
11:25:21 And yeah, I guess, what do we want to learn? So you guys I just want to write it down.
11:25:28 Sorry, My main interest in this first tranche of work is to understand where all of the county owned forest lands are at currently in terms of their management crosslands.
11:25:40 No county owned forest land. Okay? And then this State force transfer trust lands, which are the county account like the county previously county owned, now managed by Dnr on
behalf of the County we still out of them, though right State for us, transfer dressed grams so just to understanding where
11:26:02 all of those tracks of land are at currently because I don't have that there any right now.
11:26:12 and then in terms of kind of future management of those lands, I feel like the doors wide open in terms of what the options are, and the information we're gonna want to collect.
11:26:26 And so we may, Mallory may be a good person to convene that information, but we may wanna do an Rp.
11:26:36 For feature, feature, management, planning piece of this work.
11:26:43 So we use a knowing where the county owns forest land is with the State Force transfer land you're talking about what's been the map that has the existing management prescriptions?
11:26:56 Already No, a map. That is it cut over, is it? What's the age class?
11:27:02 They're currently Where are all those lands?
11:27:06 Where are where opportunities for connectivity understand kind of where?
11:27:18 That's work of disconnected small tracks of land?
11:27:23 Or are there opportunities for larger landscape level application, benefit applications. And we already have this contract with her to establish this stuff for the county owned
11:27:39 She's already done that word, or our you know not state.
11:27:46 Trust plans that are. And we're about to acquire some more of those lands through that at least transferred ownership process with Dnr: that we're currently going through, and
the 3 the 2 Quumper Wildlife corridor parcels and the one down on
11:28:03 the coil with the management of those is no, I mean those will be county own land.
11:28:16 They need a management plan. It may be, in partnership with the Land Trust, but all this, this is all part of the work.
11:28:26 well. We also have. We'll be some point in taking possession of a lot of new land for Od, too.
11:28:34 to add to the and Mike, you know lands that have already been transferred, like the thing about the natural, the management plan for that.
11:28:43 Well. The natural area is managed by the department of Mental Resources the natural area of reserve or natural resource conservation.
11:28:50 There.
11:28:53 That's a Dmr management is that Dnr management?
11:28:57 Yeah, that. Are you talking about the natural area? Yeah, Yeah, that's Dnr: as a national area program.
11:29:05 And they have national area preserved and natural resource conservation areas and the portion of the Dave Bay Natural area is natural. Air. Preserve the this fits in the middle
of the bay and most of the surrounding acres.
11:29:18 Are national resource, conservation, area status, and some of those are, you know, we get those request this support 8 acres here and there that people have, adding, That's
Dean are adding those lands to the natural resource Conservation: Yeah, and then and dnr still manages that
11:29:40 I mean with what management cost Well, they have a national area program.
11:29:49 natural areas. Have management. Plan. Okay that are written by Dnr: Yeah, allergy, right?
11:30:00 I don't know. Are you okay with those I am okay.
11:30:04 I mean, we're not okay with the way they're managing all the lands, right?
11:30:09 National areas are very different than all the other Dnr.
11:30:13 I mean, I'm fine like the majority of that Vnr management plans, but I would like to understand for the land that they manage on behalf of the county.
11:30:22 How they're managing them, I guess, with the natural area it's really restricted recommendation.
11:30:27 Yes, no national air preserves don't allow for recreational access.
11:30:33 Natural resource, conservationaries, which is the majority of the Dnr natural area, does allow low impact recreation.
11:30:42 take away the all any parking areas, you know.
11:30:43 This stuff, maintaining the road. So in some cases, in natural areas, good second number of management plan for that natural area prescribes for that specific natural area So,
in fact, going to be revealed in this report, hey?
11:31:04 Bobby Natural Area Natural Resource Conference area. We're talking about State force, transfer trust slam.
11:31:14 Okay. And so Dnr has done work on those lands and has an idea already.
11:31:23 Right. So is I guess they do. I just don't know what they what the plan is, or I mean, I bye, bye, sometimes it feels like we're we're being duplicative and making this plan
in parallel with what dnr is already.
11:31:38 Doing so I guess it seems like a critical part. And yeah, we have my pronunciation Mallory's team and everything.
11:31:42 So she I guess but that's not access to what their plan is.
11:31:49 Right now, but they have a plan. Well, then, some point over the last 8 months we saw a schedule of the harvest over the next 5 or 6 years.
11:32:00 A number of the track but I think that should be included in this map that we would.
11:32:05 Yeah, Now this will be cut in 2024.
11:32:08 This will be cut in 26. Just understanding then, what the management plans that are in place are that exist for these lands in our down right?
11:32:20 Yeah, right. It doesn't sound like any of us have a really strong grass on what their plans are for you know, our plans for the State Force transfer trust lands, or what our
management plan is for our county own Forest land If I'm wrong.
11:32:35 There, though. Let me know. I don't know. Partial bipartisan. Certainly.
11:32:40 I guess I just see putting a contractor out to establish what should be done.
11:32:46 Absence? What is planning to be done already? In Vrs plan?
11:32:50 That's part of the plan most getting that information And what being our plans, are okay.
11:32:55 that's definitely part of the plan to understand what where the lands are and what the parent plans for them are I mean, I guess I'm wondering with our quarterly updates, with
Dnr can, we say, hey?
11:33:06 We want to see the 20 Year Plan, or we want to see with, We want more data about what you're planning to do with Jefferson County lands.
11:33:13 And do we plan is Dnr. Doesn't look at.
11:33:17 They want to maintain, you know, steady revenue as much as they can.
11:33:21 They're looking at the whole peninsula. So if we put a sharper focus on Jefferson County, Dnr.
11:33:29 Lands. I'm just afraid we're gonna get a mile with my office perspective on what is a larger landscape?
11:33:38 Does it matter? I guess you know what I mean. If Dnr is is managing the Olympic region as a as you know, of, a group, and they're saying, This is our our sustainable harvest
calculations or the for everywhere, you know, factoring and habitat conservation?
11:33:57 Plan, and these other, these other inputs and outputs.
11:34:00 And then we say, Well, yeah, but we're just looking at Jefferson County I'm I'm just afraid that our data because we have to agree what we want to measure, first and I how can
we how can we give a strategic goals, to Dnr if we don't understand what their
11:34:22 strategic goals are. We have to understand what they're going?
11:34:25 Okay, as part of this process. And that's part of the discovery of.
11:34:32 Conveying with the current state of the forest lands, and Dr.
11:34:35 Pen County are you? Because we're not We don't have jurisdiction over time, or as a Bocc right?
11:34:45 And so I think I know what I've been hearing for the last I guess it's been 8 months now is interest in understanding where we're at with How things.
11:34:54 Are being managed now and I'm just trying to get to that as a starting point, and that's what I heard us wanting coming out of the last workshop.
11:35:07 We had was understanding where we're at with all those lands, so that we could then fabricate recommendations, or at least a conversation with Dnr.
11:35:17 About her Hillary Francis. Request come to her with a plan, but I think, before we plan, we need to know what we're planning for.
11:35:28 Yeah, I guess I just wonder. Are we hiring a contractor for something we could just ask for?
11:35:35 Well, it wouldn't include the county only one.
11:35:38 And where those are connected. Wait for us, man. Right So it's a more complete picture for our county.
11:35:50 And I think what you know. I'm interested in looking at some variables that I think.
11:35:58 Dnr. Is yes, somewhat obligated and interested in doing, but not entirely, you know.
11:36:06 So but ecological value and function are there? Are There are there for us that are especially well suited to sequester carbon that would be good for inclusion.
11:36:17 And one of the carbon projects are there areas that we know are gonna cause a lot of backlash and concern from neighboring residents that you know, maybe have some of those
ecological values and functions that we might ask to be taken out of the kind of industrial
11:36:39 practices that they use. You know, I think that's what I'm interested in digging into like, Where?
11:36:48 Where where might we differ from Dnrs plan?
11:36:57 And you know I I suspect it led up being of a patchwork of interests, and you know not like, I said, I'm not interested in us taking over all of our trust lands, or but would
be extinct to to dig in and just see, where where are there where are there other
11:37:18 options, and and and also saying, And these areas are absolutely well suited to Dnr management as is and and then it has to include the impacts to the trigger tax and districts.
11:37:32 Yeah, hmm.
11:37:37 So I guess I I'm I'm interested in like really figuring out what what data points do we want and need?
11:37:44 A consultant to pull out, and then, but less interested in the annual analysis of of what should be done with those lands.
11:37:56 I think that's a very political decision that as soon as we have a contractor do that, I think we've yeah, a lot of pushback.
11:38:06 I think that's that's work we need to do with some.
11:38:10 I think that's how just to get the information.
11:38:13 With this, with this contract. Umhm. There is talk in the contract about specific recommendations.
11:38:23 let me It's certainly in the agenda request which I didn't take very seriously.
11:38:31 I mean it said, talked about the recommending lands for transfer to county trust lands to county management.
11:38:45 I'm less concerned about that than I am. The contract itself.
11:38:53 Okay.
11:38:56 So state and private forest lands in the county will now be evaluated for potential transfer to the county for stewardship.
11:39:02 Yeah, that Could happen? Small minority, right? Hmm.
11:39:13 And it's you, you know, if we put together a robust working group or task force there's gonna be strong opinions, you know, and we are required for that to be diverse and representative
of all the interests you know, fairly contentious I would imagine like most things are that are truly representative
11:39:39 of various interests. And it it's it's gonna be a tough group, 2 corral.
11:39:48 And find consensus with, and you know, is that something that Mallory has experience with and is interested in doing one question
11:40:05 I think that that question can come
11:40:09 Can be addressed as we move through that, I mean, that's this first tranche of work is really about kind of a level set of where we're at, and then when we talk about the next
steps.
11:40:22 And we may hire a different facilitator for that group
11:40:28 Because we may want Mallory as part of that conversation rather than facilitating it.
11:40:33 But I don't think we'll know until we start having our conversations about what we learn from the different lands what the forest lands.
11:40:43 Analysis tells us.
11:40:51 revised, scope, abort. Hmm! Hmm!
11:40:55 Are you there? The revised one? I see that forest lands, analysis, in the scope of work.
11:41:26 and I. Do. We need this independent forestry stakeholder group activated by November fourteenth.
11:41:37 I don't think so. Okay, So I think we might want to define what stakeholders we want in that group.
11:41:44 Once we know what the analysis he gives us and initial. You know the initial findings of the analysis.
11:41:52 It's her goal to be done with the this analysis by day.
11:41:56 The end of January, November fourteenth, is not being done.
11:42:27 her is the only one that we're hiring is just one rate here.
11:42:31 So are we. I'm the technical advisory teams.
11:42:38 Okay, connectivity to this is something I'm I'm a little They're her existing advisors, right?
11:42:47 So we're not hiring them, though we're just hiring for but they're associated with chicken.
11:42:52 This is her chicken is technical advisory team.
11:42:55 Right? So they'll be working on this with her. They already have been.
11:43:27 and we've been in talking about things like food, resiliency, and everything that we've often talked about, how much food we need to grow in Jefferson County to be sustainable
and to build resilience We don't We haven't talked about that here but do you want to know how
11:43:43 much working forest. We need to be sustainable, I mean the residents are definitely getting more acres than we have.
11:43:55 Currently I mean if order to sustain the infrastructure in the industry, to keep what's the baseline?
11:44:00 I mean, we don't want to lose mills, you know, I mean. So what's like that?
11:44:04 That's an important factor, too. There's a level at which, when we don't working for us, we start to have negative impact.
11:44:08 Well, that's why the economic economic considerations are part of the yeah.
11:44:15 I guess I might Yeah, explicitly addressed. I mean, if you're going to be meeting with Mallory, I really want to know.
11:44:22 You know what are the what are the downstream consequences of any of these decisions, too, and what what is there?
11:44:29 Is there a baseline that we can shoot for? That is, you know, and that and that exporter, I think that's what we should be. County is in that exporter of wood right definitely
11:44:47 Yeah, I mean, I guess
11:44:52 I'm okay proceeding with this. I it's just I don't know, not sure if I and very coherent expressing my I guess concerns because they're half formed
11:45:12 What I hear, and maybe it's because it's run through.
11:45:16 My own filter is like, we agree on the need for an inventory, but then kind of what analysis gets done with that inventory.
11:45:24 Maybe as a separate, which is why we'll have a conversation about that once.
11:45:30 We know what the inventory does right Yeah, I mean, this include this revision includes that some of that analysis.
11:45:40 so management, recommendations will be assigned to both county and state lands.
11:45:48 properties will be assigned, Management objectives for best use, based on the analysis.
11:45:56 And yeah, so I think I What? I'm hearing is, maybe that's that's getting a little ahead of like.
11:46:03 Maybe the next chunk of work is is just the inventory.
11:46:07 when we want initial like, these are the things that could be done, you know, to to start that conversation on a prescription for a particular personal.
11:46:19 These are you know, the prescription methods that we have, that we This is the the palette that you can change from that the toolbox.
11:46:30 So it it may be getting the information. Talking about the tools is really first steps.
11:46:36 Is that what you're saying Yeah, I think, being really clear about the criteria, we're hoping to include in the inventory which is listed here, and I generally agree, it does
not include economic impacts that's not economic Yeah, which I think is important for our purposes which you know.
11:46:54 I I don't know I don't know that this is the team, for that.
11:47:01 that would be another question. For Mallory, I think, is, is there
11:47:09 Not sure if she is someone on her, her team that does that and there'd be a lot of disagreement on that right, you know.
11:47:20 It's it isn't like. There's one easy answer to many of these.
11:47:24 Even the the conversation about carbon sequestration.
11:47:28 They learn through the the first inventory carbon inventory we did was like get drastically different answers depending.
11:47:35 Who you ask, right? So like you know. How. How, then, do we want that to be reported given?
11:47:47 The I think we need to be part of that. Conversation. Yeah, Yeah.
11:47:56 So we know the basics. Hmm!
11:48:10 Let's see. Financial review of cost, benefit of managing lands and comparison of Dna versus County management Container properties.
11:48:28 So in the summary of work. What if we considered just kind of cutting out the bullet points around management and recommendations, and decide on decide on those steps after
we second bullet, and everything?
11:48:49 Below it. Yup! Good! The sub-bullets is that we're talking about under management review.
11:48:55 Yeah, but also maybe the I I I'd be curious to know that financial review bullet.
11:49:03 But third, these are numbered the third, That's good.
11:49:12 Totally. Yeah, You see that one. Any of the State lands, management plans or third bullet.
11:49:17 So bullet. Yeah, that is, I agree. I was actually
11:49:27 She was looking at. Financial review cost benefit. So I think the bullet that Kate is most concerned about is the second properties will be assigned.
11:49:36 Management objectives for best use, based on analysis and may include multiple management priorities.
11:49:43 I mean, I see, I think that's good, because then we know what our what what some options are
11:49:51 Yeah, I don't know which one. Do you specifically have a hard time with Kate?
11:49:58 I'm on so summary of work on page 4 We don't have a problem with the first Hmm prime ballet, so I think I think the question is, are we looking for management recommendations.
11:50:10 And if so, do we have the right. Will we have the right team at the table to be doing that?
11:50:20 And in that case is that is that something that you know, I mean, if we have the forest industry, who we know is activated around this issue, I mean, it's gonna.
11:50:31 Be contentious. Difficult work? Is that something that Mallory wants to take on is pretty.
11:50:35 What would that, rather than recommendations, if it was management options That's what I was just thinking that that word.
11:50:44 So we know it. The full suite of tools that could be in the toolbox are right.
11:50:48 Yeah, So knowing that, you know as a public entity, we need to be really inclusive.
11:50:55 And the the group of stakeholders that is providing input here and there's going to be massive disagreement on that well, and then you could have a a a public hearing on those
options and invite interested parties to comment on them.
11:51:09 And then the board could deliberate Mar.
11:51:12 Can I talk to blankets, Valerie, about the need for many opportunities for public input into this process?
11:51:18 I think, she included that in this. So getting management recommendations before we even talk to the junior taxing districts, so management options feels better
11:51:33 Versus my recommendations. Okay, So we know what the full suite of options are.
11:51:42 Once we see what the well suite of lands worth considering.
11:51:47 Our yeah, no, I'm down, down with that. And you know, and conversations with Commissioner Fran, she said.
11:51:58 She's willing to allocate some Dnr capacity.
11:52:02 So input on this work. So you know, I appreciate that I feel like making sure that yeah, chicken and forestry is in contact with Dnr.
11:52:11 And you know, getting it from the horse's mouth. There
11:52:17 And I I want you know the one. Is there a way that we can make the borderly updates that we get from Dnr More helpful in like landscape instead of just I mean, We you know,
We get a great maps we see what the 2 to 5 year plan is but do we want
11:52:36 put our third, fourth quarter presentation. The contribute to this conversation
11:53:01 and make those adjustments to the scope of work, and bring it back next week.
11:53:07 With that, be good. Yeah, it's like a little more information on the financial review bullet point.
11:53:19 Just what see cost benefit of Managing Lands. Comparison of Dna versus County management, because that's not really the we're not really thinking about county management.
11:56:30 yeah, Okay, Are we recessed until one?
11:56:40 Okay, So now that one more time for the public that we're resisting, we're gonna recess until we reconvene at one o'clock or our W.
11:56:47 Was back session with our Attorney General on Opioids
11:56:55 We let Monty and others know. Thank you.
13:04:25 Just call back new session. I've got to hit recording on this
13:04:31 Call in the session a second session.
13:04:35 Oh! Calling us back to order. Good afternoon, everybody, It's one o 4, and sorry for the delay.
13:04:44 We had a little bit of a technical issue, but calling us back to Order and we are going to join a ongoing meeting of the Washington State Association of counties with Attorney
General Bob Ferguson, where he's going to give us an update on the opioid settlement
13:05:06 We can. We can make like the answer about it. Get color commentary, right?
13:05:11 We're in our meeting. Yeah, you you good. But I can't hear them. So I don't know how we get into this.
13:05:18 Are you able to join with computer? Audio That was give our audio But that'll allow us to listen on it.
13:05:29 I can hear. Yeah.
13:05:37 Oh, that was me! It's still Juliana figuring it out.
13:05:42 Okay.
13:05:48 No, you're recesses watching it. So your computer that you're on.
13:05:55 It's audio. You probably need. So I had to join the computer audio to be able to hear them.
13:06:08 Okay, need to join. One person that was listening.
13:06:13 And we had an extra microphone, and for many, many years and
13:06:28 Many times 10 year old. So I want to thank you for being here today and sharing your time with us to refresh your your mind Here everyone he's here to talk, and this is next,
and those I know his life conversation.
13:06:55 And I believe David Cole is to be joining us.
13:06:58 Well, and he is the attorney, and for many of the representatives counties.
13:07:06 No; with that I will add things over to our attorney.
13:07:08 Job! Oh, thank you. And thanks to you, or arranged in this. And you're right.
13:07:15 It's been a lot of years, number So it's you know. Your names based on this. Talk about zoom. It's great.
13:07:21 To see you all. Thanks, so much for all your service. You can really. I'll give some brief opening remarks. If that's okay.
13:07:29 That most of the top will be done by Jeff is the head of our of that's litigation at the edges office, so he's he's really our expert in our office on and all things relate
to this resolution.
13:07:43 Litigation in general. With with these corporations. Now, there's a team up a little bit. To Jeff. Jeff has, I think, about a dozen slides that he'll walk through pretty quickly
I think, the plan is to leave it open to whatever questions you might have to answer answer any questions Yeah, so in a nutshell
13:08:02 this, so rising out of the or 3 distributors that's cardinal help, source program and Messa.
13:08:18 50 corporations, No doubt you read about a big national deal basically every ag in the country agree to along with.
13:08:30 I rejected. Then I turn it down.
13:08:34 It was the only hello, chain. Okay?
13:08:45 reach this portion. Yeah, it is any many respects.
13:08:51 So I did, the structure meeting. We get, for example, the the approval of local jurisdictions, certain cities accounting, like all of you, should read to it at all the other
6 agree to it.
13:09:03 Their resolution. The key difference is Yeah, the deal. A while.
13:09:09 Washington the State received nearly 50 million more dollars. As we.
13:09:16 This resolution windows other states, and jurisdictions did with their right solution.
13:09:20 So bye take me. And with that we have a all of our all of our constituents across State I won't go into details of the deal level 1 billion dollars are spread out 17 years again.
The multi-year payment schedule is essentially to with The other states and jurisdictions across
13:09:42 the receiving or skateboarding. Okay? Oh, cool I want to emphasize.
13:09:48 Is that yeah, going forward this litigation? I'm wanting.
13:09:54 I emphasize immediately. Was that cool money received by the State those dollars would not go to the State General fund or general yeah litigation as You can recall a number
of years ago, and from my perspective, my feeling was am I going to State that So Yeah, all of you work.
13:10:15 From can't get all of us. Yes, having to state or county or local jurisdictions, candies, families, individuals.
13:10:26 I know you were very familiar with that, and and you know grapple with the ramifications of that. In your jurisdictions on a pretty profound So this resolution, what I would
say is It perfect?
13:10:42 you know, large part. We did not want to settle these distributors.
13:10:46 Want to see what to judge. We just signed on the case, but there, a lot of risk on that.
13:10:50 there has been one other trial, Another jurisdiction took these distributors.
13:10:55 Trial trial, the distributors one So just give you a sense of you know there's rescue the model and that was something we were aware of. As well.
13:11:08 So we feel this is deal certainly a better deal. For why Andtonians, and is for the residents of any other State.
13:11:15 We're doing better actually in other States, And maybe one more thing I still mentioned trying to check is that Oh, if this is not the only sort of app a big one, was pretty
fun suitable in the sapphire which is one check you, guys I feel like challenging court as a result, of
13:11:34 that additional language so overall. Rejecting these national deals at person, all my colleagues working on that publicans are agreeing to Washington will be doing significantly.
13:11:53 national deals like. Firstly, all, it's good getting to September 20, third. So we've been communicating to jurisdiction long time, but now we're or for the wire now
13:12:09 Okay, jurisdictions to join numbers. We don't get any money at all.
13:12:16 cool, but not all we get. Let me get number. Hello!
13:12:20 So bottom line, license, so unless you feel your way to mitigate this, this, this case, it seems like it's it's a no brainer to accept it The door, starting in December So to
treatment, thank you start seating lives communities.
13:12:39 Across the State. So what kind of and I turn over to you and look for me?
13:12:44 Questions. Thank you so much again for probably really appreciate your time on the staff can chat Thanks.
13:12:52 Let me share my screen here.
13:12:59 It's up there and working now, issues earlier today. With that, you have technology sometimes.
13:13:08 Yeah, it's a tree General said. The key points. We want to focus on are the upcoming deadline of September twenty-third, and we've got 3 documents out to you for approval.
13:13:18 And again, I hope you review the all at once. But the key one for September twenty-threerd, is the participation board.
13:13:26 That's the form whereby you join the settlement.
13:13:28 It's a three-page document. That's how we get the money in the door, and we've got 125 eligible jurisdictions.
13:13:36 Pretty much every jurisdiction state more than 10,000 population, prosecute counties that do not have 10,000.
13:13:44 We need up that 125.
13:13:47 We need at least a 116 to return the form to even get a settlement done.
13:13:53 And we really need all 125 to return it, because we don't We don't get all the money and I'll go through that in detail.
13:13:58 But that's is one of our key points September 20, third at 17 days in that participation. Form.
13:14:05 is, Bob said. You know we did get a better deal by taking distributed to trial was a very lengthy trial, 6 a month long trial.
13:14:13 We had a team of 10 abg, so plus one, and outside council, so it's a massive discovery investment in the case, we felt confident, but you know, with the only one that's going
to verdict. Lost.
13:14:25 So I think we also are recognizing that our case for the head risk to, even though we you felt confident.
13:14:33 The key point here for all of you. In addition to that September 20, third, that line is if we don't get to that threshold of at least 116.
13:14:42 Yes, certain categories, too, Then none of us get any money.
13:14:46 So it's a half 1 billion dollar that could go away.
13:14:49 We don't have dissipation from governments like yours, but if we do, oh, there are There's a lot of money to to go around Washington cities and county yeah, up to 215 million
dollars over 17 years, and I use.
13:15:07 The phrase up to $215, to 15 million dollars, For a reason.
13:15:12 This Solomon has a base payment as well as bonus people and the bonuses are tied to whether all the cities and counties that are eligible join If all of you join then we get
to full amount alright so I'm drawing like we get to 100 1,600 and
13:15:31 25, and and nobody files a lawsuit. Well, we could get up to 89%.
13:15:36 So really talking about a percent here, but 11% of 250 million dollars is quite a bit.
13:15:42 Then States got a similar share. So we really hope everybody will return that participation for bye.
13:15:49 September 20, third, I know it's a quick turnaround, but it's also just patient.
13:15:54 Form itself, I it's a really short form, It's 3 pages.
13:15:58 If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to me some time, happy to answer any questions by information, will be at the end.
13:16:07 Yeah, here's the next screen. Okay, 12537 jurisdictions.
13:16:17 You plus. We need 90% of those for the population over 10,000 that did not file wants to.
13:16:24 I want to highlight for the counties again. There are 4 counties that did not have a 10,000 into 2,019 census under the or the other documents.
13:16:35 We'll talk about So one Washington memorandum of understanding you will get a share of the settlement. But even though you're not identified in it so different than some cities
that were below, that so I want to highlight that we'd like you to return all the forms as well.
13:16:51 Hi! The Attorney General mentioned. Yes, not enough. Sign on No.
13:16:56 Let us get any of the money so it's not that we get up on portion We're you know, a half share or anything of that nature.
13:17:04 Dollars goes away. So we really do hope that people will, because right now, as of last Friday, I don't know if you had any come in this morning. We're at 58 out of 125 eligible
local government
13:17:21 I know a number of you have this on your Genesis year.
13:17:24 So appreciate that some others will soon put that on there too.
13:17:27 So we can get those forms back. Bye. Washington Settlement is Attorney General mentioned is very similar to the national deal.
13:17:36 Yeah, and we highlight that because the first state or the first group of cities and counties, yes, this has been a bed in many times over.
13:17:47 In fact, every state that's looked at it has approved it 48 states that have similar settlements to ours, and and they all so so again, you know, so we get a little bit.
13:18:02 Okay, the terms have been. I agree, too. Yeah, to join.
13:18:09 again. There's some participation, document, you look.
13:18:13 There's a website up there that's got all.
13:18:16 And also we've got a link even to just the just The 3 documents who wants to assign the signature meeting just to make that easy at least are complex documents, as you would
expect from a half 1 billion dollars salmon overalls part of 1 billion dollar settlement There eyes across
13:18:37 the cheese for sure So if you have any questions about that, though I'm happy to point out, I can in the right direction.
13:18:44 but I think, okay. You take comfort in the fact that other states and counties have passed on this level
13:18:51 No how to calculate your share
13:18:58 We're pulling out to a different document. One Washington.
13:19:01 You So people call this the color or back document. It's a document that they work with cities to county sign this past year.
13:19:09 split settlement proceeds. Now, many of you have already proved that I believe over, but you still need to sign the other documents but if you don't have it, or still, we're
doing it just on our way, like and again, i'll put that address.
13:19:25 Back up there in a moment. So it's on there.
13:19:27 If you need to review it, but exhibit the as percentages for each county, and city that are eligible to get a share.
13:19:36 Yeah, it's not sure. Population, the way they calculated those. Rather.
13:19:38 They've looked at some various metrics about shipment of opioids into the county or city, and death statistics and number of other things So skin you may look at some and don't
like well Why, that city.
13:19:52 That county with the same population, getting a different share. And that's why no.
13:19:57 While I'm talking about this, something I'm very familiar with it.
13:19:59 State to that trap that at all. All the cities and counties that drafted that, and agreed on that share to try to answer questions with you.
13:20:07 But one of those I just wanna highlight. Yeah, all the nitty greeting about how that's actually was down with.
13:20:15 type of split that's been done in many other States.
13:20:17 I will, know take that exhibit, be share that you have multiply by 215 lines No, it's assuming we get, you know, all 25 sign on again.
13:20:29 We make it a lesser share, and we hope we're not there.
13:20:30 But I think we get all a 125 to sign on, because I do think this is a no brainer to you.
13:20:40 Then have to take it. Deduction for attorney speaks even if you didn't have outside Council because that was the agreement that you cut into one Washington mou No, This is not
50%, all the time, though that because some of the attorneys are being paid part of the settlement and
13:20:57 also there is a kind of a breakdown that the attorneys are only getting compensated for the amounts that their clients received.
13:21:04 So again, it's not gonna be a full 15%.
13:21:07 Yeah, if you have questions about that after those offline, but whoops it, take a 15% induction when you're calculating it.
13:21:15 Because that's which is gonna happen until it's paid off the amount that these attorneys are out, there will be 15% adoption But then that's going to stop.
13:21:24 You know, went through the green, and you'll get the full share
13:21:33 I talked about this other document, But there's 2 documents, additional documents.
13:21:35 We want you to sign, and at a high level these 2 documents ensure that you get the the greatest possible share to direct yourselves The 2 documents are the one Washington Mou.
13:21:49 that I mentioned, and then the allocation agreement.
13:21:55 The allocation agreement is how we split It's one that payment fund about a 430 million dollar bucket of money between The State and all the local government, yes, and kind
of high level.
13:22:06 It's real simple. Of the 430 million dollars you get 50%.
13:22:10 That's 250 million dollars in the State is 50% That's why we need to assign that, because if we don't give up people to sign onto that, then we go into the default, which is
in the national agreement, I will for you with uses, here, But that, default is
13:22:26 this supposed to 50% local government is 15%. Local government goes to 50%.
13:22:34 State is 15%. State then the bulk of the money, 70% goes into a fund that's jointly administered by both of us.
13:22:43 Yeah, we don't think we're going to get there.
13:22:47 We've not done any work to create this, you know, a general batement, But because again, we think, yeah, all of you who are closest the opioid crisis really need to have some
resources to try to address it in.
13:23:00 Your communities. There's a I'll get you in a moment.
13:23:04 There's some approval you should have to meet understanding.
13:23:07 It has to be spent on opioid abatement.
13:23:09 First of all, you can't just spend anything. But within trying to fix the opioid epidemic.
13:23:14 You have quite a bit of discretion, and by giving you 50% of it 250 million dollars, you're gonna have more resources to hopefully We address what you're seeing.
13:23:25 That was not enough. We all know that and there may be other solvents coming, but it's 215 money in order right now.
13:23:33 So again, we need that allocation agreement signed.
13:23:36 So we don't go to the default where there's a vast portion of it that goes into this jump.
13:23:41 The administered bond. Here we'd rather see the money go directly to you, and then, I'll get to the State share in a moment, but just to kind of steal.
13:23:48 The the lead here. It's going to be spent in all your communities.
13:23:51 I mean dooh and Hca are working on plans now, but just to be very clear it's gonna go out to, you know, throughout the state to be spent in all your communities and very very
strands, and other projects.
13:24:04 So but again, we need you to sign all 3 documents.
13:24:07 You know, at a high level with that participation form. When we started off with.
13:24:11 I'll come back to right now. That's how you join the settlement That one has the hard deadline of September 20 third.
13:24:18 Yeah, we want these other 2 by September 20, third.
13:24:22 But we must have that participation form by September 20, third
13:24:28 No. When you get your share you've got 2 choices.
13:24:35 decide. To spend it yourself as long as you spend it on, approved us again approved uses. That's a a A. Cache.
13:24:41 Mix the salary greenness on our website. It's also attached to allocation agreement.
13:24:47 It's about a 1015 page document that it's a broad range of spending as possible.
13:24:53 If you do do that reporting. How do you spend the money?
13:24:58 Let's say you don't want to deal with that like I I don't shares not that great or we've got other priorities that we want to focus on.
13:25:06 Still ask you to sign the agreement, because that's how all everybody gets these resources.
13:25:12 But then you can direct the money. Get to choose to 2 regions that are that are defined in that one.
13:25:18 Washington, Mlu: It's all more backed up so it's gonna be counties near You can pool their money like this way, or everybody can agree to pool their money to be spent regionally
to address the problem So again.
13:25:31 I highlight that for those who again may not be interested in directing it to the resources, or perhaps you just have a smaller share, because the way the the allocation has
worked out with that that is an option for you again, again.
13:25:44 It's going to be counties near you that would share in that.
13:25:50 Now the State will get 261 million dollars out.
13:25:54 Disagree, and then the balance goes to attorneys.
13:25:58 but clear, You know we're not building a big building, or or you end up with this money It's going to be spending your communities for working on plans right now.
13:26:10 About that should be spent quickly now, as quickly as we can, and do it as wisely as we can.
13:26:18 But we welcome all questions, comments from you, too, spending, or once you see, our spending and trying to coordinate that spelling tonight, the dollars go as far as we can
this well, Half a 1 billion dollars is a lot this is a huge problem And John this is going to depend on over 17 years.
13:26:37 So while we get yeah, additional payment it's a little larger than the other.
13:26:41 Once there's gonna be some gaps, and the more we can work together, and you can also share with us what you're seeing in your communities the better off we're gonna be understanding
should be one of the common questions that we get that is one is a small thing to start in not are they going to be even or how much are
13:26:59 they well, first payments. If we get everybody By September 20, third, we'll start on December first this year. At least.
13:27:10 That may even be a little before then. That's the day they put the deadline for them.
13:27:13 The distributors to make the payments. No, no, first payment.
13:27:19 if you're gonna try to divide about how how much we got to get each year?
13:27:23 It's not exactly the same because it does depend on what we get all the incentives but I mean, do all the 125 sign on, or do we have, a slightly lesser, number that would affect
the amount we get or somebody were, to follow a lawsuit assuming we get all the money you you need to.
13:27:40 Divide up the It's 250 million dollars shares, and then through that first 1 one on December one of this year, we get a double share, so basically you get to 2 18 to 1 9, Yeah,
is the first payment.
13:27:55 But then the other ones. You're gonna be about half that. We get a little bit more at the start.
13:28:01 but then we will get. Then we study famous. After the next 6 16 years.
13:28:05 After that
13:28:11 It takes me back to the key points. Yes, again. How you join the settlement.
13:28:18 September 20, third, ask that you just review the other 2 documents signed notes at the same time allocation agreement.
13:28:26 In the one you we don't have as part of deadline.
13:28:28 Yeah, if you need to prioritize and and renew just one.
13:28:33 But if we get the everybody a 125 in the local government will share 215 million dollars for 17 years.
13:28:43 Bye, they don't reach the fresh, which is bye 125.
13:28:50 No one gets the money local government stuff. So you very much that join us, because again we think it's a great deal for the States.
13:29:02 This is a very challenging case. If you want to go at it from a mitigation standpoint, you know.
13:29:07 We push them apart, but you also need to go in the meeting, But if you have any questions about these documents, because they're they're long I spend a lot of time with them.
I'm happy to try to answer them as best I can my contact information is up. Here.
13:29:25 We also have our website up here, which has all the documents also has just a signature pack.
13:29:31 If you want just signature pages. It's a at least 5 or 6 pages long there that you need to take a look at to kind of Cis folks.
13:29:40 And we also have a list of who signed on. Said You can't remember if you to find that one Washington Mo. You, I encourage you to take a look at our website because it'll be
up there.
13:29:52 With that I'm gonna stop sharing my screen and back over to tree.
13:29:57 General Ferguson for some closing remarks.
13:29:59 If, while we take questions, Thanks, thanks, thanks for next that presentation.
13:30:03 So? Which is states like Washington and jurisdictions like yours, all across across country that they've accepted these terms.
13:30:20 The big. Difference is, here's next for 46 billion for Washington is the benefit from this deal and that goes there must go to Address: So again, is it perfect to all the core
stuff So I think it's a good deal absolutely.
13:30:35 Yeah, Oh, I'm most prepared to go living against these guys.
13:30:38 And and, as I mentioned, get lost. Oh, okay, it seems like it's it's one that gets money to you, so you can stop start helping your constituents with treatment and other needs,
that you see, and you know, control significant amount yeah, from this resolution So thanks again.
13:30:56 For our questions. We're happy. Yeah, Hi: Jessica.
13:31:00 His contact information as well, so feel free to reach out to me.
13:31:03 Thanks so much. Thank you. Attorney General Ferguson and Jeff.
13:31:08 Presentation, you know I is that gonna see? If David Cole wanted to add any team or that, you know, if you don't want to date with that person.
13:31:16 Okay, but get you that opportunity if you want to address it, you're representing help.
13:31:21 People feel better. Yeah.
13:31:29 Well, just reiterated like that to the extent you all have a question particularly.
13:31:35 You yeah.
13:31:44 Okay, calls how you guys are working
13:31:49 About you. Oh, yeah, to reach out
13:32:02 yeah, 1Â s yeah, points.
13:32:13 So that will as a whole. So most of you so appreciate that.
13:32:27 Thanks, David. And so I you know I have related.
13:32:32 So people have been reached out asking me if there is a master list of this jurisdictions that have completely completed everything, and or list of those who have.
13:32:41 Maybe oh, and specifically, I think you know for this to use that city, since we represent counties so I don't know if that information is available.
13:32:54 it is to keep that summit website that I have at that point.
13:32:57 Pull up there Somebody just put it in the in the chat.
13:33:01 There, if you go there on the right side there is a status bar.
13:33:07 Our status. Link that that list all 125 off, some additional ones, like the counties here, that smaller counties that will benefit that shows everybody who has returned the
form versus not. It's got highlighted, there, so encourage for folks to take a look there.
13:33:22 Great. Thank you for that. I think that will be awful.
13:33:25 Yeah, I need to open this up to anyone who has a call question.
13:33:31 Okay, call just go ahead and unmute yourself or raise your hand for everyone.
13:33:41 Everything was crystal clearing. You guys are just Gonna find I can show now
13:33:48 Maybe chat.
13:33:52 And alright. So you have one question from Canadian County, and it says, with all the people just a documentation, we sign that spells out the use.
13:34:01 Of the file. Yeah, Yeah, retirement hassle, or, yeah.
13:34:16 since I'm not one who goes through the office myself.
13:34:20 I am a loss of so we'll do the best I can for the yeah.
13:34:25 I mean, I think that the this is the settlement agreement itself does not have that many multiplication you do have to report, you're standing for it, but since I'm getting
into areas I don't particularly know all the way.
13:34:38 Here, and if anybody can help me out much appreciated about how that refresh your end on it.
13:34:43 Now I think you just would have to report on it. But again, not having lived through that or advice on that, I'm not to ask you to be answered
13:34:55 Maybe we can get Come back. Commissioner, I think you had.
13:35:00 You are. Yeah, Good afternoon, everyone. And General Ferguson.
13:35:06 Thank you you so much. I see how many people are almost calls such interest.
13:35:14 From the Schedule Canada Commissioners. See I. And as a matter, I think, send to a
13:35:30 Now. There's so much work that I doing so much for work, you know
13:35:38 disorder treatment and coverage
13:35:45 Yeah, I'll be telling getting the challenge. Is the attorney getting it up So
13:36:00 You know. Make sure we're okay. Where
13:36:09 Oh, sure, any of so many people I know. I'm sure there's others on the screen We'll show about story.
13:36:15 Oh!
13:36:20 you know something in his memory
13:36:32 thanks for sharing that, and many conversations on this issue, and just want to say thanks for all your leadership on this obviously such a great strategy for you in your pan
just before I tell you that you're going to share your story are you so many people.
13:36:46 Not just here. Thank you so much
13:36:52 Thank you, Commissioner Dean. I see you have your hand.
13:36:55 I'll go to that great. Thank you. Thanks so much to everyone who has been working hard on this issue on behalf of local governments.
13:37:03 I'm curious, especially in light of Commissioner Janice's comments.
13:37:07 Do we know of jurisdictions that don't plan to sign on?
13:37:10 And I'm really curious. Why, why, they would choose not to.
13:37:15 And if so, if there's any advocacy that can be done to get us to that important number, Thanks.
13:37:20 That question And, Jeff, I don't I don't think we've heard from anyone that's saying or not going to.
13:37:29 I think it's more just if you've got a lot of jurisdictions, and it just takes a while to edit those cats, so to speak, and get them to all take an action.
13:37:38 On something is is, is is my sense, but genuine correctly. That's correct about if you're not sure anybody that said they're not going to sign.
13:37:52 rather can we turn a lot of folks that have it on their agendas.
13:37:56 But we alright, there's a segment that is not quite focused on this yet.
13:38:01 I put it that way
13:38:04 So you can all do next couple of weeks and and get done.
13:38:12 It's it's my hope that to focus the mind, we obviously have one So I know Sometimes I can postpone things some headlines right in front of me. Maybe that's what's going on here.
13:38:21 Jurisdictions. But again, this is a We did this deal on a lesser deal than the one that has.
13:38:29 So we are okay. And thank you.
13:38:35 I just from Eric. Are you all on the call?
13:38:40 Okay, I am to Leona. Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you Go ahead
13:38:49 see the Bernie John Purdue from the chair.
13:38:50 Captain for joining us, and all your work? The question Oh, I you know, very sure intuition.
13:39:12 yeah.
13:39:16 Okay, opportunity
13:39:22 Thank you. Eric.
13:39:28 just because I see his hand up in the I don't go back to the box.
13:39:32 Thanks, Julie. I appreciate it, and just put note to.
13:39:35 There's something on opioid debate in console within the home to that sort of all overseas regionally the Use of bonds.
13:39:40 So to go into all. There will be some like a regional box that folks get the opportunity to participate in a demo sharing, just ensuring that the fonts get used to right purpose.
13:39:53 my other, my My question, though, is, it seems like I mean, obviously there's and there are cities, and that and cities, especially those that sort of don't get a lot of money,
may not be tracking this at the same level.
13:40:08 As the county. So and this is a wild sense meeting. So, just thinking about now the cities and as being like what is the average to make sure that the city sign up because it
seems like that will be a and share that thank you all for having Okay, sure, just address what we're doing here, that's
13:40:31 fine I was gonna ask all of you to then get cities in your counties to to encourage them to sign on as well.
13:40:38 we met with Awc. That gave them the same presentation. Earlier.
13:40:41 Today we had given them the same presentation that we gave to all of you about 3 weeks ago.
13:40:46 we are also calling emailing every small 125 issue at all.
13:40:50 All those that don't don't have lawyers.
13:40:53 If you have a lawyer, we're not that Brox. Nothing that you're all lawyers contact You that if you follow the lawsuit here.
13:40:58 But for D. 88, it did not file a lawsuit.
13:41:02 we're reaching out to everyone individually to try to focus them on the deadline.
13:41:06 But I would encourage all the counties, though I mean there's a list.
13:41:10 If you look at, Exhibit D of the cities in yours, your county that are going to receive some funds, please reach out to them to remind them about the September 20 third deadline
and it will encourage them to do that
13:41:25 That point Jeff. Thanks for happening, as well. So right right support the resolution which I expect you to do, getting those cities off That's that's what's gonna take for
all of us to get these resources.
13:41:39 yeah, those relationships It's certainly helpful.
13:41:42 Okay.
13:41:46 Thanks everyone, questions and answers. I see one in the check on, and it says it sounds like this will be a State Grant postal phone.
13:41:56 Is that correct? This is neither. This is not a grant.
13:42:01 This is, may seem like one to be given Eric's comments about how to set it up for your audit purposes.
13:42:07 This is a settlement with 3 companies. 3 companies are funding this entire.
13:42:12 There's no State or Federal money coming. Another separate money coming and stay Hope that we'll be spending more, too.
13:42:20 but this settlement is only from 3 separate 3 large medical distributor companies.
13:42:28 Thank you for that question. And Mason County said that they've reached out to their city to remind them and to offer assistance.
13:42:34 Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. And another question is is the Awc leadership office or Hi.
13:42:46 Yeah, wait, I said. We'll watch that. Okay, respond to this Bob and I were both on this morning talking with them.
13:42:59 since they've facilitated all over our calls and reach out up, or similar to your doing.
13:43:02 Alright. I certainly believe they are, although we can't speak for them directly.
13:43:17 So the L: You: So Yeah, local call in that thing.
13:43:34 I just see that system also
13:43:46 Thank you, David. Are there any other burning questions out, or any of the folks cool spoken to Don't see anything else in the chat, so I think the big reminder here.
13:44:02 Is get your document signed by the 24 submitted, just going.
13:44:11 you're interested in doing and reach out.
13:44:14 They've said to. They train jail or data call exactly.
13:44:20 Well, pull back, and you know, and if you don't want to, you can always call it, and we can direct you to the right as well.
13:44:28 So okay, I don't know if anyone else has anything to add.
13:44:32 Okay.
13:44:36 Go ahead, Mr. Person: Oh, thanks. So much. Jeff and my team.
13:44:40 Thank you so much for all. One more. Okay, some of their time to share a few details about the deal number 2 we're able to answer any questions just said, so just don't be shy
out reached out and number 3.
13:44:52 Hey? Thanks for your service. People of our statement to your jurisdictions.
13:44:57 We appreciate it as a policy Council Member Hi, Erica I really appreciate the partnership and have, one more. Thanks so much.
13:45:07 Yeah, Thank you all for you're trying to wow, We appreciate it with that.
13:45:13 Have any more questions. We can end this call. Yeah, sure.
13:45:19 Nice to see you all
13:45:50 those suit was filed. But they're at 10,000 now.
13:45:52 Oh, really, yeah, cool, yeah, sure. Hmm: Oh, of course, Now my zoom is updating.
13:46:04 Oh, yeah, but you could see on Al: Yeah, what you know. Let's just give them Okay.
13:46:34 check with stuff, make sure
13:46:41 That's right.
13:46:50 Bye.
13:46:56 if you're joining us, we are just dealing with the transition from our last group.
13:47:04 Call with Wasaac. So we'll be with you in a moment, just dealing with some technical lucens.
13:47:11 So and looks like he's good on the county end.
13:47:16 They just phones went down and everything. So it's just now coming back up.
13:47:18 But go on with us. You have a recording and progress.
13:47:24 We have a backup system. So okay, okay. But Stephanie is No, that's not the case.
13:47:32 Okay, back. On Okay, So you're the running 2 zoom meetings.
13:47:38 Just gonna crash the system. So we start back at the 2.
13:47:42 Yep, yeah, we said earlier that we were gonna start the workshop on the county distribution percentages for a secure world schools at 2 o'clock.
13:47:52 So we'll be joined by treasurer. Praeta, assessment and public works.
14:02:40 Okay, Okay, hi, 2 o'clock. And we are transitioning from our zoom call with the Washington.
14:02:51 Alright.
14:02:52 Sorry. Wasn't using the microphone. 2 o'clock and we're transitioning from our call with the Washington Association of Counties to our workshop on county distribution percentages
for secure rural schools funds, and We will have a public comment portion of This agenda
14:03:11 item. So I think we need to bring. They see. Yes, exactly.
14:03:15 Oh, Stacy, if you can hear me, you need to accept the promotion.
14:03:20 The panelists.
14:03:31 And I don't see one thing. Why is that ours screen up?
14:03:35 You have to. That was for people there in. Oh, I see.
14:03:44 Okay, there's Jeff. Good afternoon, Jeff.
14:03:51 And we are Stacy looks like she accepted her promotion, her promotion well in the voc Oh, you live in you live in my district.
14:04:04 I guess it's all yours.
14:04:07 What'd you say? Yeah, So I think Mark's gonna T up this agenda item, But I'm calling us back to order.
14:04:17 Okay, So periodically, the Washington State right here solicits input from the counties
14:04:26 So periodically, the Washington State treasurer gives counties the opportunity to review the distribution of secure rural schools, funding, and we're we've been given that opportunity
now, and our current distribution percentage between titles 1 2 and 3 is 85 13 and 2%
14:04:50 resp., And so there's been a discussion behind the scenes involving our treasurer, Stacey Prata, or Assessor Jeff.
14:04:59 Chapman and our Public works. Director Monty reinders regarding the current distribution and whether or not we would like to see it changed.
14:05:09 and so that's what this workshop is about.
14:05:11 And I think Stacey, Jeff and money are more knowledgeable about this subject than I am, so I'll open the floor to Jeff or Stacy and and I don't see Monty.
14:03:48 good afternoon.
14:04:04 yeah, there you go.
14:05:39 Sure I think we all have a a bit of expertise in different areas.
14:05:27 I can. I can speak on behalf of public works. Once Stacy and Jeff have a chance to speak
14:05:55 Yeah.
14:05:46 So in terms of the financial system of this, I went back to 2,001, and there was a kind of a transition time between this and how just the different funding sources.
14:06:00 But back, you know, in 2,001. We were at an 80, 14, and 6% split with 80% going to title 1 14% to title, 2 and 6 to title.
14:06:15 3. It's changed over the year so much that in 2,008 0 went to title 3, and it was 85 to one and 15 to 2.
14:06:28 The transition period of 2016, 27. They don't really have the numbers available, but since the numbers we'd had for the details from 2,012 were the same, 85 15 Now if we do
not answer and request specific percentage then they will automatically distribute at
14:06:55 80% title, one and 20% title 3. And so I think the real issues are whether you still want funding to go to title 2.
14:05:59 Okay.
14:07:08 How much you want to change things, and what those impacts are to schools, because title one is split evenly between 5 of the local school districts and the county.
14:07:26 So changing title, one would change the split of what goes to the local schools
14:07:30 Sounds good to to clarify that Stacy half goes to the 5 school districts and half goes to Rose.
14:07:38 Okay.
14:07:38 Correct Yeah. Of title, one yeah, And then And so those school districts are school district, 20 queens, Clearwater school district 46 Brennan School, district, 48 quill scene,
school, district 49, chimicum, and school, district 50 port townsend and and
14:08:05 so, you know, it's a significant amount for port towns, and in Chicago, where you're looking at in 2,021, it was 164 5,000 to port towns and 103,000 to Chimicum and then tweets
clearwater was
14:07:42 Right? Yeah.
14:08:30 Okay.
14:08:23 4,200 Brennan, 11,000, and quilting 34,000. So essentially you need to make the the legislative decision of how you want those allocations to proceed. And Then I can do the
notification
14:08:46 Right. So if if the default takes hold, and then there would be a 5% reduction in schools and roads.
14:08:57 And then I can represent public works in Monty's absence.
14:05:38 Oh, Stacy, you wanna go first, or do you
14:09:01 Yeah, yeah, I did. This is Jeff. I I You know it used to be.
14:08:59 Please don't do that. Keep the 85%. I'm sure the schools would say that, too.
14:09:06 We get a lot. We got a lot more money from secure real schools than we have and getting, and when they cut it down, that's when the county and the county can set title one at
between 80 and 85 by default it's 80% and title 2 gets 20 but then when
14:09:20 Okay.
14:09:24 they start 20 title 3, and started expanding The use of that county starts shifting some of the title, 2 money over to tile 3. I you.
14:09:32 Know I'm a big fan of title 2. It's it goes to the Forest Service and gets redistributed through a Grant program, and I'll show show that in a minute.
14:09:42 But I can't deny that roads needs all the help it can get, and so I fully have supported that the county continue to change from the 80% default and give the full 85% to title
one I think you know, most all staff.
14:09:51 Thank you.
14:09:57 Okay.
14:09:57 Agree with that. That Rose needs what they do. I do disagree somewhat with what Stacy said.
14:10:02 Please.
14:10:03 It's true. The schools get 50, but then Osbournes distributes it by taking away from basic education the amount that goes to each of those schools, and then re distributes the
basic education.
14:10:15 Money, stay wide. So it's not as big a panacea for the State, the local schools, as it might see now on title 2.
14:10:14 Yeah, hmm.
14:10:26 The question, I think, is, Well, why do we continue to support Title 2.
14:10:41 see.
14:10:30 You can reduce tile 2 to as low as 8%, or you can give it the full 20% and if you don't do anything, it gets the full 20% so I my thing is you know, if if you're going to give
85% to title, one then you're at 15,% to
14:10:44 Yeah.
14:10:50 be split between. Title 2 and twilight 3, and I'm advocating here that we continue to give 13% to title. 2.
14:10:59 Okay, I'm gonna share my screen and show you what title Ii does
14:11:09 Alright. Can you see that
14:11:14 Okay, this is title to the it gets about with that 13.
14:11:20 They're getting. A oh, just over a $100,000 a year.
14:11:24 From that. The because of the distribution that the 4 service gets, and they take that $100,000, and then they have a resource advisory committee that redistributes that money
in a grant program, so you different agencies, and nonprofits apply for grant for use of that money and
14:11:41 then the Resource Advisory Committee sits down and decides how to divvy it up among the grant applicants.
14:11:49 what I really like about the Re-source advisor committee.
14:11:52 It's one of the few places where you get all the agency.
14:11:55 Sitting down at the table, and the nonprofits You got the 4 service there, you know you've got a few state agencies.
14:11:12 Oh, there we go! Yup, we can see it
14:12:03 Yeah.
14:12:03 You have all the local agencies, and they work as a group to decide how that money gets spent.
14:12:09 Most of it goes in some form to watershed restoration, and and improving the forest ecosystem.
14:12:16 Okay. And you could see that 50% of the funds have to be spent on road maintenance decommission or obliteration order, restorations of streams of watershed, and all these have
to benefit the forest service, lands which We have quite a bit of in Jefferson, county a lot of
14:12:31 the Olympic National Forest is in Jefferson County.
14:12:37 So with when you go through here, I'm gonna show you what some of the projects this goes back to 2016, and it's divided the money that's divided is divided by county, and then
there's a few projects that are multiple counties, and then the money split up among them but you can see what Jefferson
14:12:31 alright.
14:12:55 county, in 2,016. Use it for the Quilse Ranger core.
14:12:59 A youth program through the quilting school district and Greg's familiar with that the Olympic Peninsula cooperative, noxious weed.
14:13:08 Now that is Jefferson and Cllam. So they each get a share of that money. As you see.
14:13:12 There's there's a line item for clown, and there's a line item for Jefferson and Kathy Licero and the Clown County We Board, who's it has basically overseeing both of those
the the projects in General County and the projects in Clown County and there
14:13:27 are again. A lot of these are going to see every year reapply, because they actually have come to rely on that title to money.
14:13:08 Good.
14:13:34 Olympic sky crew. That's the Pacific Northwest National Scenic Youth crews that work in the forest.
14:13:43 this is used Monitoring City of water, drinking water that you know poor towns and drinking water.
14:13:37 Yeah.
14:13:48 That's the quill. The big Philippine watershed and I'll get it to that again.
14:13:52 road deferred maintenance at the 4 service.
14:13:50 Yeah, yeah, okay, sure.
14:14:03 can I ask you a question about that?
14:13:56 Does trailhead restorations, district youth, crew, and of course, the Washington Conservation Core and I'll run through this.
14:14:07 Fairly.
14:14:07 Yes.
14:14:06 The The the breakdown. There, Jeff, something that you said that I'm not sure if I understood correctly, is, are those quantities with each county the amount that came from
that counties t type 2 Srs.
14:14:16 Yes, yes, yeah, you could see they got a 121,000 from Jefferson County, and this is how they it.
14:14:24 The Resource Advisory Committee split it up.
14:14:27 In some cases some projects were fully funded, often with with a re research with red committees.
14:14:17 That you
14:14:33 It's split up, you know, proportionately, or in some way.
14:14:37 So it's very rare that you can apply for a certain amount of money and get the whole thing.
14:14:42 But some projects. They always ask That, they say, is this project.
14:14:46 Does it have to be funded at 100%? Or will you take less?
14:14:40 Yeah, okay, Gotcha: Thank you.
14:14:50 That's actually on the application for, and I think it could be split up into multiple counties where it you know Jefferson County uses some of their money clown uses some of
their money The other thing you'll notice, is the the big recipients of this are column and
14:15:05 Jefferson because most of the National Forest is in Jefferson and Columb.
14:15:10 So Grace Harbor gets less money. Mason County gets even less so.
14:15:14 Mason County is coming in, and about half of what Jefferson does, and I think they even.
14:15:18 They're up to around 1718% for title 2, and they're still taking in half of what Jefferson does. Okay?
14:15:26 And then 2,017 Here's Jefferson again.
14:15:30 You're gonna see some repeats here is you still see noxious weed program, and Jefferson and Clam.
14:15:20 Okay.
14:15:37 And again 20,000 each again. That's still, Kathy Licero.
14:15:38 Okay.
14:15:41 and then you see private pit privies for Hook, Now Ranger district that was one that I actually one of my volunteer groups back at your horseman had that one for putting in
toilets in the back country watching conservation core and i'll moving on to
14:16:02 2019,
14:16:05 Again. You see those wallops, River power reach? I I think Cami was involved in that.
14:16:11 Yeah.
14:16:12 Tammy is both an applicant, and is on the rack deferred.
14:16:16 Maintenance, Laura, big Quilting Trail reroute.
14:16:19 Now that's one on one that I worked on that one is to move the trail away from the river.
14:16:25 Now like I said, the big quill law is in the Is the watershed for the city of Port.
14:16:30 Towns and water supply and the trail was literally on the edge, and falling into the river.
14:16:14 Okay.
14:16:35 So a lot of times you had to walk through the river and this is a motorized trail and a horse trail, and the feeling was we needed to get that trail out of there.
14:16:43 We needed to put it up on the side bank side bank is almost a vertical cliff, so it required a number of switch backs up on one side of it and a number switch backs down on
the other side.
14:16:39 Okay.
14:16:59 Can I ask you a question about these projects? Jeff: You know there's a throughout all the counties.
14:17:06 There's a lot of deferred road maintenance that I see in the Forest Service applies for that.
14:17:11 And do they have any other revenue options for some of that deferred road?
14:16:56 Somewhere. What is happens at the Wash, out at the dose of Wallops, and then certainly
14:17:21 They do? They have their own internal funding that they can use.
14:17:27 they try to supplement with this. And so does Jefferson County.
14:17:29 I mean Monty can apply for these as well and it's mainly the whatever goes through here in its road maintenance is almost always in the watershed.
14:17:38 It's some kind of great protection overt removal, bridge, some kind of way to improve the quality of the watershed.
14:17:45 So they're usually limited to that when they go for roads. But you're right.
14:17:49 If if there's a lot of applicants and not a lot of money, the roads, both the county road and the fourth Earth row, they'll back out and say, Well, we have other ways to fund
it.
14:18:01 So we we'll reduce the amount of money we requested.
14:18:05 So those are almost always reduced below what they actually ask.
14:17:17 Maintenance on on Forest Service roads? Or is this this pretty much where it is
14:18:10 And if you'll see at the end, they'll say, after all these projects are done, if there's any money left over, it goes into deferred road maintenance.
14:18:16 So if if somehow one of these projects doesn't happen or isn't completely filled, the money will be spent on road maintenance.
14:18:26 I hope that kind of answers your question, and and then this in this year here what happened?
14:18:29 Yes, thank you.
14:18:32 Was. It wasn't a rack for one year, so the next year, they they basically did 2 years worth of funding distributions it by the one rack.
14:18:43 So that's why you'll see 2018 and 29 team listed here, and you see 210,000.
14:18:50 That's really 2 years worth. And so. The decision was all made at one meeting for for both of those, and they were.
14:18:41 Okay.
14:18:57 They were kind of handled separately, but decided upon it at the same time.
14:19:01 So you see 2 roadmates, 2 noxious weed controls, Pnw.
14:19:05 Trail, maintenance. That's the Pacific Northwest Trail.
14:19:09 youth crews same as that sky youth crew you saw earlier washing conservation core
14:19:18 And then you can see the 4 Supervisor Kelly Lawrence is a current for a supervisor.
14:19:23 Signs off of this, and the the list goes to the region in Portland, and then they decide that they approve of it.
14:19:33 now this, I was gonna show you a little bit. This was our title to Grant, 2019 for the lower big quill.
14:19:39 We took a youth crew, and you're looking at.
14:19:41 This was a a a Northwest youth crew that was hired for 3 weeks, and they came in and worked on this bypass to get it the trail out of the river my group, which is back country
or when we pack them, in and we pack them back out again.
14:19:58 and they did the work. They did the work to move up the switch backs across the top and then back down the other side.
14:19:09 Okay.
14:20:05 So and all the money went to the youth crew. The finding the youth crew, I some money, came out of a different grant program to hire to help with a packing costs, and then,
Kathy lassero.
14:20:21 Put out this report every year. Here's the web address for it, and this is the work that they get done.
14:20:29 You know this report is 30 to 40 pages, and she puts one out every year, and it's all the work that they get done from title.
14:20:06 Great
14:20:35 2 in Clown and Jefferson County. So there's a website you can look and look at the report for each year.
14:20:44 Do we know how much the title 2 funds make up of the noxious weed work that's done, and for a service lands is it like
14:20:54 Well, it's basically all of it, of what they do on the Forest Service lands.
14:20:57 So there's no other source of funding for not just week. Control on Forest Service plans
14:21:02 Not that flows through the Conservation District The 4 service probably does some of their own that might hire out, and then, you know and again Kathy's, only doing or all has
or the clown has only done this for Jefferson and Cloudm in Mason and in Grace Harbor
14:21:20 it's often done by the 4 service working with the Washington Conservation core.
14:21:25 So a lot of times. The Wcc. Projects which are through department of ecology, get worked with the fourers, and so they handle the noxious.
14:21:33 We treatments now, the 4 service could use other money to do it.
14:21:38 I'm not sure how much other money they have available to themselves directly to work on.
14:21:07 Okay.
14:21:44 Not just we control, I think Kathy's handle most of it, for Jefferson and Clown
14:21:53 And that would be in your report. So that's why I'm very supportive of title.
14:22:01 I I think it gets a lot done. I also think it's unique in that.
14:22:04 It's it's a place that draws all the different groups in together to decide on how to how to distribute that money something you don't see a lot.
14:21:45 Okay.
14:22:28 Okay, that's great background, Jeff. What Let's who can give us a little briefing on title 3: Well, title 3 Commissioners.
14:22:38 There are, I think, 5 different potential uses. For that one is to support fire, wise activities.
14:22:45 The other is to create community wildfire, protection plans.
14:22:49 And then there are a couple other uses that I can't repeat.
14:22:54 Here, mostly because they're they're really not relevant.
14:22:59 now that we have decided to embark on an effort to create community wildfire protection plans, the 200,000 or so in title 3 monies that we have in fund 147 we'll we'll be brought
to bear to help.
14:23:13 Compensate the consultant that will help us develop those plans, and Michael Mark is also submitting a grant for I think it's a Dnr Grant specifically to fund efforts, like,
this And so we'll maximize the use of grant dollars and it will fill the
14:23:33 gap with with title 3 monies. But given that, we have it used.
14:23:38 Title, 3 Monies for for many years, you know.
14:23:42 The 2% so small contribution to to title 3.
14:23:47 And so I I would recommend that we continue that, and then maybe the next time we're given a chance to look at Title 3, if we want to divert the 2% to title 2 or title one,
then we could do so at that.
14:24:04 Time, but I would recommend that we, we maintain the 2% currently And you know, Jeff wants the 13, and I'm arguing for 2.
14:24:13 That leaves 85, and you know that's the position that Monty has for road road fund funding, You know.
14:24:22 He makes the point that Srs used to provide considerably more funding than it does.
14:24:26 Now and we try to make up for that by transferring pilt every year.
14:24:31 The Board how much they're gonna get between us Rs.
14:24:34 And pill, and most recently you've reduced the traffic law enforcement, diversion from 7, 20, to 6, 70, this year, and it will reduce again next year to 6 20, and and that's
to help public works leverage those monies into grants, and to help stop the
14:24:54 decay, and their fund balance. I just say I'm grateful.
14:24:58 I I just wanted you to say that bit about community wildfire planning out loud for everyone to hear, because I'm grateful that we're undertaking that process and have started
drafting a request for proposals for that work so I think it's it's time for us to start thinking
14:25:13 more about the while. Then urban interface and I know in my conversations with Chief Black at East Jefferson fire and rescue that he agrees with that.
14:25:23 So I'm I'm glad to see that we're putting some of this money to work, and I also agree with reviewing that It's you know, Whenever in a year or 2, and seeing how that money
is being put to use And deciding at that point if we want to reallocate that 2
14:25:36 percent
14:25:39 Yeah, I think these are all really important. The fact that we have been unable to use the title 3 at all is why we have $200,000 there.
14:25:47 Now, of course, I've been petitioned by fire fire departments that they really need some support, and providing rescue operations and search search and rescue, as well as law
enforcement.
14:26:03 In some of these Forest Service. So I, if the Wildfire Community Wildfire Protection plan is a a match hopefully for a larger grant, there might still be some surplus here.
14:26:17 Yes, I'm okay with these ratios as presented.
14:26:21 But I would love to pursue whether we can use title.
14:26:25 $3 to reimburse local fire departments or law enforcement for doing their job in the Forest Service land.
14:26:37 and that is an eligible. Use So if a fire department goes into a Federal forest on a search and rescue mission, and they can document what that effort cost.
14:26:47 Then they can petition the county for reimbursement.
14:26:51 But in my time here nobody's ever done that I don't think there's a process set up for doing that cause.
14:26:58 I've had this conversation about title $3 with I can't remember whom in the county, and it is an opaque system.
14:27:06 Yes, at best, so I guess you know this is not a a permanent decision right now, but I would love to be able to start leveraging at least the existing title.
14:27:15 $3 to to reimburse those agencies, Sure, and it might be time for an outreach effort to the agencies that would be eligible for reimbursement.
14:27:23 So they we We can explain the steps that would be in and seeking those monies.
14:27:29 Okay, yeah, And you know, I without an that program in mind, it would be hard for me to justify more than you know.
14:27:38 2 or 3% for that. I know the good work that happens with the title, too, though I see those deferred road projects as as Jeff kind of acknowledged as
14:27:51 Up, for grabs a little bit I mean, it's just it's like it.
14:27:55 It fills in the gaps they'll take as much as they can.
14:27:57 And yet they have other options to fund the the deferred maintenance.
14:28:02 So they aren't. I mean, that's why it's deferred.
14:28:04 Because so exactly right and and you know it might, it might be appropriate to drafted a document and have the fire districts and whatnot sign on some sort of memorandum of
understanding regarding title.
14:28:19 I monies, Yeah, I think that would be great. So I'm curious.
14:28:24 Why you said that we haven't been able to spend those title.
14:28:28 3 monies. We haven't spent them, and I've had agencies.
14:28:32 Come to me. You know the quilting fire district of the There's a lot of work in there, and I'm trying to unravel in my mind why that we're unable to Reimburse them.
14:28:44 I think they were probably looking more for. Can we get some money from from Title 3 for these operations, and understanding that maybe it's a reimbursement for an action, and
setting up that process is the problem.
14:28:57 I don't know but I know I mean, I think Monty is the one that first told me that we Yeah, we are up until now.
14:29:02 Is that No, no avenue to to use those title?
14:29:05 $3, and I've heard fire districts express the same gap from the other side.
14:29:14 should we hear from Monte? Yeah, on Tv? Something you want to add here, Yeah, you gotta accept the promotion to panelists this time.
14:29:26 oh, yeah, what I It took a while to get the invite to be a panelist.
14:29:31 But when I get I signed in so because I was late to begin with, anyway.
14:29:37 85, 15 and that's what I have to say.
14:29:44 It's a great way to go. I fully support that.
14:29:52 just we years ago I did. Used to go to the rack meetings, and actually with Glenn, Honeyford and others, But we got up County Road Project funded 3 title 2 We replaced all the
culverts except for one on the Pickwill scene River Road between Penny Creek Road.
14:30:15 The forest boundary. That was 15 years ago. Dave Ward only cost about 65,000 at the time, but it was a great project, but after that because the you, you know, in 2,010 ish
the amount of money that Jefferson county was splitting up went from you know.
14:30:38 3 million dollars down to $800,000 and I'm including the schools portion in that number.
14:30:45 the the part, part, the county to get a hands on went from 1 point.
14:30:50 4 million dollars down to, for, you know, down to $400,000.
14:30:56 But so the title 2 amounts became, you know, instead of having a rack meeting, to decide how you're gonna spend 3 $400,000, it went to deciding how you're gonna spend a $121,000
So we stop applying for road projects.
14:31:16 Because we knew there were, You know, these other projects like the ones Jeff shared, closing Ranger Core not sued things like that that you know, that needed that money, and
we had other opportunities Also, when it came to road projects seem like the Forest Service wanted to pretty much dominate the the ask there for a lot of
14:31:43 road decommissioning projects. So you know, we just kind of from county road standpoint.
14:31:47 We backed off on putting time into title. I mean, it's a lot of lot of work to to go after a pretty small amount of money, for our needs versus some of these other programs
where that was a really meaningful amount of money but like I.
14:32:07 Said back in the day we did get a county road project funded.
14:32:10 Great little project, but anyway, you know, and then, as far as title, I I mean way back, when there were no fewer restrictions on the money, so we use that for flood plane
worked on the Wilson River some of the property, buyouts we used it for match on those but then
14:32:32 in the later program. After about 2,010, they, you know, said it could only be used for these activities of wow and fire planning and and search and rescue and things.
14:32:45 So that's when the money started to just sit there and not be used as much, and there was outreach to. There's various sheriffs over the years about potentially using that money
for search and rescue operations and things, but I just don't think anyone ever really remembered.
14:33:02 It when they needed to, to, to to find a way to use that money It sounds like there's a way now, though there's gonna be this planning exercise that's done.
14:33:12 So that's a That's a good thing. That's what I'd say about the program.
14:33:21 1815, 85, 85, 85.
14:33:23 85, team? Good? Yeah, Yeah, it's about 18% of what we used to get.
14:33:32 So you know 85, 15,
14:33:38 yeah, if I could just add, it sounds like the 200,000 is a lot, But I would like to say, back in the early 2 thousands title 3 was getting 2,000 or 200,000 a year, and So clearly
that was when public works money they were using it for other projects But it's Now, 15 to
14:34:01 20,000 per year, and so well, 200,000 is sitting there, you know.
14:33:27 Sorry. Good thing, too. We need to get temporary tattoos made
14:34:13 Thank you. No. So I'm curious. The Well fire protection plan.
14:34:24 do we have any idea what that would cost, and how do we want to prioritize that versus some of the reimbursements that the fire districts are advocating for Well, the research
i've done at 29 out of 39 counties have these plans
14:34:38 we have 0, the fire chiefs, or I'm really excited about the potential for developing these plans.
14:34:49 Given that there's a grant program, and that we're gonna apply for 175,000.
14:34:54 through that grant program, we likely will not need the 200 that we have in the fund 147, and those monies could be and reserve for use by fire districts to help reimburse for
search and rescue or to replace damaged equipment you know those
14:35:12 costs that would be eligible in the $175,000 grants Is Is that the total plan I I really have no idea what what this effort might cost? But if you?
14:35:26 Look at the number of communities that the fire chiefs have enumerated.
14:35:30 There's like 18 or 20 of them, and we're gonna ask the the consultant that we select.
14:35:38 Do we have one overarching plan, with chapters for each community, or you know they might want to create a separate plan for each community, because that would maximize their
revenue.
14:35:47 But a lot of the material in those plans would be duplicate material, and we don't want to duplicate.
14:35:55 So between maybe maybe a 100,000 from the fund, 147, plus the grant, I think we can be assured that we'll have a Cwpp that we can be proud of, and that will be effective and
in answer to your question Kate for me.
14:36:10 I think the community wildfire protection plan is an acute me now, and something that this is directly applicable for this.
14:36:17 But I would love you know, as we talked about to come up with the process, so we can start reimbursing for search and rescue and other other qualified uses, and and maybe in
3 years, when this comes up again, we have a we have a different poll on each one of those
14:36:32 funds in the conversation right, and I would also further say that the the climate action goals that we have climate.
14:36:41 I I can't recall the term mitigation.
14:36:46 Some folks are really focused on C Sea level rise and and the coastline, but I think the more imminent danger is, as we get drier and warmer is the the wildfire risk
14:36:59 Okay, So there is potentially enough to do to do both.
14:37:04 Yes, and given that, we've not spent a dollar, and at least 10 years out of that fund.
14:37:11 I think 50,000, for the other uses should make the fire districts very happy.
14:37:22 I don't know more solid numbers. Once we get some proposals exactly.
14:37:25 In response to our request for proposals. I looked into it a little bit, and some communities have done these with like college students.
14:37:35 Hmm Go ahead! College students do like a master development of their community.
14:37:41 Wildfire protection plan, and the other communities of hired consultants to do it.
14:37:45 So we did consider different approaches, but it felt like having it real professional Well, fire protection plan makes sense for kind of the mix of sub communities in Jefferson
County, yeah, I would think for the grants.
14:37:59 There would need to be some price. Estimates, or you know, an idea of the scope in order to apply for that grants I'm not aware that's a requirement, you know, a quick call
to Michael mark we'll answer that question thanks and It's a
14:38:16 dnr Grant and then I did talk to the Dnr.
14:38:18 What wildfire protection, coordinator.
14:38:21 A while ago, and I'm sure they have a sense of the scale and cost of these.
14:38:26 Please, Yeah, And and there's extensive outreach community stakeholders There'll be a lot of interested people will want to be heard.
14:37:57 yeah.
14:38:37 Yeah, like like I brought up to you, too, Is it with the taxpayers?
14:38:40 Pay a fee to Dna, 2 fees to Dnr that adds up to about 400,000 a year.
14:38:44 For force fire, protection, assessments So you know, in a period of 2 years, we're paying 8.
14:38:49 The taxpayers, including the county, are paying $800,000 to Dnr.
14:38:36 Hmm.
14:39:08 Anything else on these 3 different categories of funding that we want to talk about today.
14:39:19 I think we need to take action. Yeah, Is there an is there interest in any of our parts of proposing a change to the ratio?
14:39:28 Do we want to take public comment, for? We decide on that.
14:39:31 Yeah, I guess we should take public comments. Oh, we got it.
14:39:34 We've got a public comment, So I'm opening for public comment on this discussion of our secure rural schools funding and the allocation of the funding to the different titles,
And I see that gene.
14:39:48 Ball raised her hand, and we've brought her over. Do you have to unmute
14:39:55 Good afternoon. Can you hear me
14:39:58 Oh, okay, I really enjoy being the dumbest person in the room, and it gives me an opportunity to learn a lot of neat stuff.
14:40:08 I I wonder if you can. Well, you know, considering that.
14:40:14 And you guys are discussing issues that are a high level, a higher level than most average people have any comprehension.
14:40:22 I wonder if you could illuminate us a little bit on what the differences and mechanisms at play are with the the title 1, 2, and 3.
14:40:30 You know variables here It'd be nice to have some kind of a a tutorial, or just a little bit of insight to understand this.
14:40:37 I don't know what those are. Generally speaking, Jeff pretty much always loses me when he starts spewing numbers.
14:39:55 Yes, we can hear. You have 3Â min.
14:40:49 This time Stacy made my brain explode a little bit.
14:40:52 when she rattled out some numbers, which is kind of neat, but definitely gives me more questions.
14:40:58 I'm looking forward to the day when Jeff has a regularly scheduled class, during which time he can dump all of this information on us Nerds, who are interested to know all these
things that are so mysterious that he has a full comprehension of and the rest of us seem to be
14:41:18 just completely, There's an opaque box, and we just don't get it.
14:41:23 I can't be the only one that has this sentiment.
14:41:25 So Jeff, if you're looking for a project, you have some students right?
14:41:31 If if we have an opportunity to invest money in repairing trails, fire, prevention, search, and rescue that sort of thing.
14:41:39 I. Is a citizen and taxpayer am more than thrilled that we have that opportunity, and and grateful.
14:41:47 But we have accounting which supports this type of thing.
14:40:52 Hmm.
14:41:56 Thank you, Jane
14:41:54 Thank you, Jean. Is there anybody? Okay, We'll get that class scheduled. Right?
14:42:04 Jeff.
14:42:05 Okay, Is there anyone else who's joined us today on the attendee list?
14:42:11 Who would like to make a public comment? If so, you can use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen while we wait.
14:42:18 Jeff taught me something today talking about how the the title one money for the schools is all sucked up and then made part of their already apportionment, which does seem
like a little bit of 3 card Monty that I've heard often referenced in talking about levees and property taxes, and I feel
14:42:35 like Now I understand the source that people are talking about, and Jeff are there other tax sources, or or other sources of funding that you know that Ospi sucks up and then
Re Re portions to schools as part of their normal apportionment?
14:42:02 Yeah, Yeah, if you want me to talk about property, tax it Better be I I could spend 8Â h Yeah.
14:42:53 I'd have to think about that one. But this is the only one I'm aware of, and I know there there was a legend.
14:42:57 There was a bill several years back to try to change it, because they felt this was very unfair to rural counties that had a lot of Federal lands, and the Bill didn't move because
it.
14:43:09 You know, fundamentally the bill would have benefited rural counties more than urban counties.
14:42:50 Was this this is it
14:43:26 I would say that the if you want to say that the tax structure for State and Federal funding is complicated, I would say the revenue structure to counties, and programs is just
as complicated so Federal pilt has gone up well secure rural schools has gone down and they're not the only
14:43:53 2 variables, I mean you've got a ton of them.
14:43:58 And so when you look at like the county revenue guide, there's a whole bunch of things and so when they're making decisions at the Federal and then the State level and then
allocating how much for those it it's way, too, complicated to put in one graph how everything is interwoven, and
14:44:15 you really can only get down to a single source and show some are going up.
14:43:37 yeah.
14:44:27 Any other comments are cool, sure, esteemed panelists.
14:44:34 No, just it. It sounds like there's consensus among our our trusted colleagues that the 85, 15, split, is working, and it sounds like we need to take action to continue that.
14:44:20 Some are going down, and you know what's fair
14:44:48 Allocation. Yeah. And as part of the motion, would you authorize me, please, to complete the form that's required to be submitted
14:44:58 Oh, cool. Okay. Membrane and Stacy. I like it when you talk.
14:44:56 I'm supposed to fill out the form mark. Thank you.
14:45:04 I I Okay, thank you. I will move that. We authorize the treasurer to submit.
14:45:16 A form stating our continued interest in a split of title, one getting 85% title, 2 getting 13% title, 3 getting 2Â s all in favor.
14:45:04 They asked me, I decided to include you all
14:45:27 Hi! Thanks for breaking it down for us guys! Thanks, Stacey.
14:45:33 Bye.
14:45:39 our just fyi our guess for the is it 3 o'clock, 3, 15 are delayed at the Hood Canal Bridge, Yeah, I heard on the radio.
14:45:51 There was gonna be an extensive or lengthy closure.
14:45:54 Oh dear! Those were nighttime, though. It's a few weekend night, 10 weekends.
14:46:00 But yeah, they private I can bring this up. Craig's got an item for us. Yup.
14:46:09 Can I walk on a letter? Yeah, I got a note, and maybe several of us got a note from Mason, Pd.
14:46:15 Kristen down there looking for a letter of support as they apply to Usda for vegetation management as part of their climate.
14:46:24 Wildfire project, or I think that's the Usda money they're going for, and they asked if we would consider assigning a letter of support which I could probably I have.
14:46:35 I can share online. That would be helpful, and that our beauty is not currently applying.
14:46:44 So it would not be competing with an application from Jefferson, Pd.
14:46:50 I believe I you know I just got the note today, and I have not Oops, not Kristen.
14:47:01 okay.
14:47:05 Got it wrong. So obviously the Usd service has a community Wildfire Defense Grant program, too.
14:47:13 What was that It's a community, wildfire Defense Grant program through the Forest Service.
14:47:19 That's what this Grant is seeking funding for, and it it's in Jefferson County.
14:47:26 But oh! Did you confirm
14:47:30 I I I would I not. Heard anything on our but our beauty applying for okay I mean, they don't.
14:47:41 It's due 9, 27. So if we wanna take a week and just check with Pd.
14:47:45 We probably could. Okay, we might even be able to get that answer.
14:47:49 Yeah. So shall I not share yet, and see if we can get an answer from Jefferson, Pd: and make sure it's not a conflict. I I can't imagine.
14:48:02 It would be alright, or we could discuss it, and then just see if yeah, sure if there is a conflict, then let me share it so we can everyone in the world with it.
14:48:22 Share my screen.
14:48:55 this funding? Will they focus the spending in Jefferson County or it's a whole system.
14:49:00 Right, so there'll be, they'll be doing from Brennan, which they, you know they support down to Cmont.
14:49:06 So they're doing. It would be a whole prescription.
14:49:11 Okay.
14:49:17 I mean, I'm sure that our Pd. Is not applying for a grant to manage those same trees. Right?
14:49:24 Yeah, so I will. I'll move that. We send this letter of support after confirming no objection from our Jefferson. Pd: I'll second that all in favor bye, bye.
14:49:44 Stop my share.
14:49:47 Hey? Moving through, although actually just a final action. So we need to take public comments.
14:49:54 Oh, oh, yeah, thank you right. Thank you. New rules, new rule.
14:49:59 anybody who's with us on the on Zoom today, interested in making public comments on the action we just took, which we could make.
14:50:11 It resend our decision to support pursuit of grant funding for the removal of vegetation along the roads in Mason County.
14:50:21 As part of a community. Wildfire, defense. Grant that the Mason County Pud is applying for anybody, right?
14:50:33 Any anybody interested in commenting on the beauty's work in Jefferson County
14:50:43 Chain, ball.
14:50:53 Hi, Jane, you're gonna have to up. You're unmuted
14:50:57 Hi, Dan, there's just a little bit of a So if people sound like they're maybe out in space, maybe they are That's what happens to me. Anyway.
14:51:06 It takes a couple of seconds to get on. But anyway, fireprint prevention is a big deal.
14:51:10 I've I've lived in Colorado, where I I've seen just start.
14:51:16 I've seen trees just spontaneously combust and burn 100,000 acres.
14:51:21 I put out, fires myself on the side of roads and Oregon that was started by for what do you call them?
14:51:29 fireworks, I put a metal roof on my house in an effort to have defensible space to prevent.
14:51:39 Yeah, what little bit of damage I could to my home.
14:50:59 Hi!
14:51:44 I keep things trimmed away from my house. Once you get a fire started and it's only getting worse.
14:51:52 Now, you know, once it gets started it doesn't get, And to have these 4 thoughts in advance serves as well.
14:52:01 You can't fix it, you know, After the horses left the barn, what is that saying?
14:51:51 Okay.
14:52:20 Thanks. Jean couldn't agree more. Hmm: Okay, Anybody else was gonna make public comments on this letter of support for a Grants. The community Wildfire Defense Grant program
for The Mason County, Pd to Do vegetation management along the Roads in Mason and South Jefferson County
14:52:47 Not seeing any other hands. Go up. Okay, A close public comment on this item.
14:52:55 Hmm any other for the good of the order. Business items are arise since this morning.
14:53:06 no! But the Waset conference. Should we talk a little bit about that?
14:53:10 It's at a It starts on a Monday, so we are trying to pull out ahead.
14:53:16 Caroline, did you have something to share on that? I can just talk about what we had as far as November fourth, team, fifteenth and Sixteenth.
14:53:28 Right. Yup. And I need to be there on Monday.
14:53:32 The fourteenth for the Legislative Steering Committee.
14:53:39 It's also timber County's caucus meeting that day.
14:53:40 I believe so, or we're wondering if we need to cancel that meeting.
14:53:47 If it's just if others plan to attend
14:53:55 I feel like they've usually started on Tuesdays.
14:53:59 Yeah, no, they do. They They made a big deal out of the fact that they're starting on Monday this year.
14:54:04 Hmm! And I didn't. I thought maybe I need plenty.
14:54:09 I'm not going, cause it. Conflicted with our Yesc meeting.
14:54:13 And then I also have a potential shoreline hearing board.
14:54:15 Since I'm on that board now. During that week, that'd be great, and the conference is the 14, fifteenth, and sixteenth.
14:54:27 Yeah, I'm trying to pull up the agenda.
14:54:30 Hmm.
14:54:34 Doesn't require flying this time
14:54:41 I mean, I got a lot out of attending last year, just being my first opportunity, so probably would like to go again close enough.
14:54:49 Yeah, I wouldn't mind. Yeah, often. We all go there.
14:54:53 It is and so the timber counties caucus, especially if missing this one.
14:54:58 Now
14:55:03 okay.
14:55:25 am with the timber caucus and public lands, county copies.
14:55:31 Is that a new name? Is that? That's a new name to me.
14:55:38 I would be interested in going to next week's Timber County meeting, but
14:55:46 Skipboard. Hell! Did you have another conflict as well?
14:55:52 Well, it's icg. It's in Olympia right.
14:55:54 The meeting. Yes, so I would be. I would be missing.
14:55:57 Icg. Board of Health, Well, I said, these virtual right well, city is hosting it, and they in person last time, and they I'm not sure if they have plans.
14:56:10 I don't know
14:56:13 I mean, I've never asked this question, but what's our practice about conflicts on our calendars when there honestly complex on the calendar?
14:56:25 And we wanna, do both. You just make a decision, or I know But what have you guys done in the past?
14:56:31 What I'm asking, how would usually defer one of health over temper counties?
14:56:34 But if you have 3 people on board of health, and you want to do it, and the timber account is doing important work.
14:56:40 When I was going there would be fine. Be by visiting it if I wasn't chair.
14:56:43 So you wanna go on my side. I think it's portable.
14:56:47 we'd rather check in and make sure we pour him for the Board of Health.
14:56:51 Yeah, So we do need 2 of us to be there regardless.
14:56:59 I am. Yeah, This is this week, and next week, Thursday.
14:57:08 okay. Well, I'll try and figure out my
14:57:15 Oh, I just thought you know, John Mortal they might be.
14:57:20 They're thinking about canceling this upcoming Icg meeting.
14:57:25 no, I don't know, but it just says, Hi Carolyn.
14:57:30 I think we're canceling this one, although I'm not certain this has been fully vetted by the Bocc.
14:57:33 Yet so it was a regular scheduled meeting for September, but and they were going to be the host, so I'm not sure Why would.
14:57:42 Why would our input matter? Usually the 4 administrators they discuss provide input, Have you heard anything?
14:57:49 Yeah, I was gonna communicate with you, not in a public session.
14:57:52 No about this, but I I think the sense is amongst the executives that we scrubbed the one in second, and then follow up in November, based on the Igc.
14:58:06 That we had on housing follow up on on that meeting.
14:58:12 Try to maintain momentum and and that sort of thing.
14:58:16 The county would host no Is there a schedule, a rotation schedule familiar with the Okay?
14:58:32 Well, that was easier. If that's the case, I would tends to move my agenda, planning check in with market to earlier in the week, and go to the timber counties meeting Now,
I've got a gender plan for board of health this week so i'll just make sure to be
14:58:49 proactive about confirming a quorum.
14:58:53 Great. Okay, I'll wait to hear on that
14:58:58 Anything else on the calendar so we don't have to decide on the November fourteenth, but it is nice to sketch or to, if we're going to cancel to do that Well, in advance.
14:59:12 So that's we you know. Just don't.
14:59:15 Don't schedule things that we have to reschedule for so if you guys want to decide whether or not you're gonna my my participation doesn't start until 3 30 If either both.
14:59:33 Of you are doing timber and public lands. That starts at 8 Am.
14:59:36 So we have a fifth Monday in November, so we could just say, we'll meet on the fifth Monday and skip second number
14:59:47 That's a good call. Yeah, if we we need to.
14:59:52 Oh, okay, yeah, it's we. We don't have any.
14:59:57 his budget started on November fourteenth mark.
15:00:00 That will be in the big dates for Budget are the first and second Mondays.
15:00:05 In yeah, okay, but we don't. We don't have.
15:00:11 And since this is amid by any review what the guidance I put out to department heads and electives is, since the board already approved the 23 budget 23 budget, and they're
only making minor adjustments to it that we wouldn't go through the
15:00:24 full dog and pony show with every department, and elected office.
15:00:28 But if if they request an audience with the Board then we'll grant that.
15:00:32 Okay.
15:00:35 I would say for me on the County Leaders Conference. It's more gonna hinge on this shoreline.
15:00:39 Hearing boards that I might be but part of the board on, But I can do okay.
15:00:52 My vote, the least impactful in terms of canceling the Monday meeting, I mean.
15:00:59 But what time is the with those? Good evening. I I don't know. Yet. They just told us to save the whole days for the 1516 seventeens, and anything oh, sorry that's not a conflict
with you It's just you wouldn't go to the leaders leadership, conference right right although you could still
15:01:15 go to one day. Yeah, Okay? Yeah, And I probably would.
15:01:22 Okay, cancel it. Okay, Yeah, fourteenth or D 2.
15:01:33 we have a placeholder for the add ballroom.
15:01:34 Hearing, but if we know about it schedule outside of that thing, just why, you know this it's on the planner, but not instantly.
15:01:46 Yeah, I don't know if that's a that can be moved right?
15:01:51 Yes, Jeff. About that. Hmm: Okay.
15:02:01 Still listening. Jeff, raise your hand if that's a problem.
15:02:07 No, Is he still there? Yeah, Oh, good, Hey, Jeff, Can we move the ad valorem that you're right?
15:02:14 Hearing by one week
15:02:21 yeah, he might be. So let's see, I'm sorry.
15:02:26 The 20 First, there was something on account of Fourteenth is wide open.
15:02:29 Oh, Good. Okay. Sorry Disregard Jeff
15:02:40 I was planning to be out for that fifth Monday.
15:02:44 Okay. But no, no, that's fine. I could. Oh, we know.
15:02:49 No, this shows that there's only sure. Oh, yeah, sorry.
15:02:55 Yeah, there's only 4. I'm done.
15:03:00 Is it October It's October that when it's not, or Augustine then it's December.
15:03:09 Wait no January. Alright
15:03:15 Okay, So so just cancel in the 14 not rescheduling.
15:03:23 Oh, checking on the auditors office that should be fine, because they can.
15:03:27 Usually you are approving, hey? Everyone things like that every Monday.
15:03:33 Right? Oh, yeah, Vouchers: yeah.
15:03:46 Okay. So it's 3 o 3. Our was that colleagues are delayed, and arrival I am guessing approximately 3 3,840.
15:03:57 It'll be. Take a short recess and come back at 3, 30, sure.
15:04:03 Okay, we are going to recess until 3, 30. Thanks, everyone.
15:33:14 to do it
15:33:20 Nice, surprising. Go go, doodles for the guests.
15:33:24 I brought chocolate up, and live. Call us back to order, Our wasac guests have not arrived yet.
15:33:36 Washington State Association of Counties Guests have not arrived yet, so you are going to now be watching.
15:33:41 Us wait and shit, Chat an open public session.
15:33:48 some counties. They do this their whole day. They just put themselves live all day, and with each other, and do the business of the county, and eat lunch and chat about their
kids so we can chat with that.
15:34:03 Or are we gonna attempted fix the audio for the cameras and why? It's not just fine in the room.
15:34:10 It was something like people on zoom can hear.
15:34:18 But if people were in this meeting room, it's not really amplified.
15:34:22 I don't know why, so that's no alright.
15:34:29 then you got your So auto cameras used to be.
15:34:32 We did on round table ceiling might so sensitive works great, but that interferes with the out.
15:34:38 Yeah, So I this one, I do front while I try that one out. Why is it?
15:34:44 Oh, because the hour. Okay, testing testing from zoom out here
15:34:52 Alright, testing testing? Does it amplify it does?
15:34:56 Yeah, am I to point out if I can't hear right right testing testing
15:35:06 Alright. Yeah, well, good. But there was that any better than this one, though, if you stand, if you stay there yeah, testing, testing, same, okay, then I'll keep it on that
one
15:35:19 With a little bit of supplement. Yeah, alright. Thank you.
15:35:24 I just know we have people hearing issues and sounds quiet to me.
15:35:28 I might be the one with
15:35:51 Kate? Did they have a eta? On their arrival?
15:35:54 I thought they might pull in around 3 35, but might take them a little bit to get in here, you know.
15:36:00 Let me. I told them it to be done by 4, 30.
15:36:07 Okay, They had quite a ambitious agenda. Yeah, 15 items on the agenda.
15:36:12 Yeah, okay.
15:36:16 Okay, I got that done
15:36:24 Well, Department of ecology has informed us that they do not have Draft bill language for our septage capacity, study.
15:36:35 So now I'm reaching out to other folks, including Jamie Biden, who was involved in this conversation months ago with me, and she's working on it now.
15:36:47 Hmm! So that's an update from this morning for you guys.
15:36:53 Huh! So then I am a little surprised It didn't make it onto our list.
15:37:00 Why? Because it sounds like it's 30 kind of elevated with, you know.
15:37:06 She's Rossack with Alpha right. Do an appointment.
15:37:10 But
15:37:30 something is running like a recording of our meeting, or something on my
15:37:38 Oh!
15:38:02 yeah. So I heard back from her. She says, there hasn't been a bill for a couple of years now, but I will reach out to the department to help to see if they have any idea.
15:38:11 Not I can work with him, and was awful lobbyists to develop some provider language.
15:38:16 It's usually pretty easy to put together right right
15:38:26 Thanks, Jamie. Let me know. Oh, I can arrived Welcome, Is it Jamie Botan is in the restroom?
15:38:41 No, Jimmy Stevens, cause cause I was like, I'm just emailing her right now.
15:40:11 Oh, thanks! This time when I find that in the building so busy, even so busy, Eric.
15:40:21 Yeah, Hmm. No, Lynn. Okay, that she might be joining
15:40:31 Hmm: Okay, So I am writing you an email, Eric.
15:40:36 Hmm Jamie, Do you know, Great brother, Councilmember, Sandwich County, and great are you the longest standing member of Saman? Council?
15:40:57 Yeah, the first 3 term and 35 years. Wow, wow!
15:41:04 Yup, hey, Louis, we have lots to catch up on.
15:41:07 We won't be able to today, cause You had an ambitious agenda, but I I I miss, I mean I just miss seeing you guys are having the chance to Yeah, good job.
15:41:22 Yeah, I know I couldn't remember.
15:41:36 Well, yeah, I don't remember.
15:41:47 okay, yeah, I think it was before my time.
15:41:53 I don't remember. Oh, sorry
15:42:05 Okay, So Kathleen: David: Okay, my bad you, know this is our first day back in in real real life here.
15:42:15 For quite a while. So yeah, glad you guys could join us.
15:42:20 Yeah, sorry. It's a warm in here. It's no H.
15:42:24 Back in this building at all, so and I get what you get in our building, you know, in summer, when the great Thank you.
15:42:39 Hello! Get started then, anyway. Thank you for having this, and thanks for taking the time to have us today.
15:42:48 Although Hello, I'm I'm Jamie Stevens.
15:42:50 San Juan County Commissioner and president of the Association this year, and although I'm over there, I went down and met Eric in Tacoma today, It's a it's a long way, around
this week, But you know we're here, today, Mainly to tell you
15:43:09 about the You know the kind of the state of the association, and where we are.
15:43:14 And you know particularly for Commissioner Brotherton. If you didn't know some of the things that was that does, I'm only saying this because the other 2 have been very involved,
and you know our associations only is as strong as the people is how involved the members are and you know i'd like to thank commissioner Dean
15:43:33 and Commissioner is an hour, because they've been very involved in the association.
15:43:37 I'm not sure if you've been on any committees or anything else.
15:43:43 Those are all the things that make it work, and also help you as a county.
15:43:50 but just as important as reporting on the county is to hear from you what's important, and I know got it.
15:43:57 Couple of questions later on. Oh, that will go directly to the timber counties as usual.
15:44:03 Eric will do most of this, so I don't.
15:44:07 this state any fact? Politicians yeah, details.
15:44:13 Well, Amy, enjoy some chocolate.
15:44:17 Yeah, locally produced from the food Co App. I don't know who made them. Well, thank you again.
15:44:25 Mark could see you again, too, as well so appreciate the chance to be here today.
15:44:29 We'll be. We'll probably be brief and succinct.
15:44:32 I'm sorry we got waylaid. I thought we had left Pierce County in time.
15:44:36 We We met with Chris County Council this morning, and it was W.
15:44:39 We're with them, and we are headed to call them after this for tomorrow, and then we are in, gets up in the morning.
15:44:46 So for the following morning. So what kind of making a peninsula trip?
15:44:50 You know our goal is every other. Every other year has been our goal.
15:44:55 To get to counties covid through a wrench at us, and we did a few virtually, but primarily not. So.
15:45:02 We're excited to be back on the road, and we're good.
15:45:05 We're probably gonna get half Councilmember.
15:45:08 Stevens has been a oh, a true warrior road warrior and very warrior, and a plane warrior.
15:45:14 To make sure that we're able to do that. So we appreciate that much. We need another mic, or we good
15:45:27 The microphone. So I'll I'll be a little more succinct and brief, you know.
15:45:35 I just wanna remind folks that are, we have 3 documents for you, briefing documents, the main one we'll be talking from is the courthouse.
15:45:41 Briefing document which looks like this, and then we do have a Federal issues document and a you're in session report and we'll talk briefly about those as well.
15:45:53 and then you know, if you have questions at any time, don't hesitate, or afterwards follow up. I'm sorry we don't have more time.
15:45:58 This generally takes an hour to 2Â h, depending on how many questions you all have.
15:46:04 So when we start, engage. I would just remind you our primary client are the board accounting commissioners, the Commissioners Council members, and the 4 county executives,
139 of you is our primary client and secondarily are the departments, that are beneath the boards, accounting
15:46:19 commissioners, or the county administrators, the county executives, And so that's our secondary climate client.
15:46:23 All of those affiliate groups. So the Board of Health, the local health officials, the planning directors, the administrators, section clerks of the Board's councils, the county
road engineers, all of those groups, are kind of our second affiliates, and that's next tier down that we
15:46:41 deliver service to. We don't deliver services to those independent elected officials or the or the judicial branch, while we work closely with them all.
15:46:48 We don't very deliver direct service Page 4 is a little bit about our board of directors and our board of directors is currently as you've meant to know.
15:46:59 Council Member Stevens is our president, and we rotate east west, east, West.
15:47:03 So Mary Cooney, from Spokane will be our next president, and then we go down to Lisa Janiki from Skaggy County, and so we rotate east West.
15:47:12 And that provides us both. A nice geographic distribution.
15:47:14 But it really does provide us political diversity as well.
15:47:16 Historically. And so this this group is no different than that our boards, comprised of generally about 20 fiveish members It depends how many media past presidents that we
end up with.
15:47:29 we have 10 representatives from our urban county social, considered to be counties over 180,000 people.
15:47:34 Then we have 4 Eastern Washington representatives for Western Washington representatives.
15:47:39 Our officers in our past president. So that gives that one distinction between our Board of Directors.
15:47:43 Is, it is not our policy making body that is, our legislative steering committee.
15:47:47 So our public policy-making body. Yeah, ultimately, it comes to the membership, but it's our legislative steering committee.
15:47:54 And so the board of Records kind of oversees, the administrative structure provides the strategic direction, for the organization.
15:48:01 It establishes our goals and objectives for the organization that are incorporated into our annual budget that's adopted by the members themselves provide that strategic vision.
15:48:12 they are responsible for litigation activities for our bylaws as well.
15:48:16 So. But getting back to that kind of that that public policy that's our legislative steering committee.
15:48:22 We'll talk more about them in just a moment. I'm gonna just move.
15:48:27 Keep us moving, and really move into page 8 There's some other materials for you to take a look at, but you know, so it's probably the most boring part of our organization.
15:48:35 But for me, it's one of the primary responsibilities is to assure the fiduciary health of the organization, and it's one of the primary responsibilities of the Executive Committee
as well and so we'll spend a little time on that on for just kind of
15:48:47 8, 9 in 10, and you could take a look. Your organization generally covers between 3, point, 6 and 4 million dollars as an annual budget for the organization.
15:48:59 we do that. In a variety of ways, with the primary struck the primary primary way that we generate revenue is is dues.
15:49:07 It's news from the Member counties. It generates about 54 a percent.
15:49:11 Its range between about 44% and 54% in the past decade about the revenue types.
15:49:17 And then we we've got our litigation program.
15:49:21 We have our transportation program that we work through with the County Engineers Association.
15:49:27 So we do contract services for a variety of groups as well.
15:49:31 So that's a little bit of what you see in terms of overall revenue for the organization.
15:49:36 You can see a little bit of that in the upper left hand column.
15:49:41 yes, what is what is the acronym slack?
15:49:44 That is our strategic litigation and communication program.
15:49:47 Thank you for that. Yeah, we're an organization of access, And I apologize for that.
15:49:53 But, as you can see, kind of a membership dues being that 54%, then you can see assessments and other activities that we do.
15:49:59 We have a large contract on a annual binary basis to track transportation, oriented studies.
15:50:07 We get a small percentage of the gas tax that comes through the through us.
15:50:11 Our biggest emphasis right now is we are trying to get to all of the Case counties in the Pug sound area to do their fish passage barrier updates, so doing their studies, and
making sure We have a full inventory of physical passage barriers that need removing and jefferson county is one of
15:50:28 those can you see it as quite a few by by recalling my my numbers so, and then you kind of kind of go on. You can see a little bit more about where we expend our resources.
15:50:40 we're actually going to be bringing to the board and Updated preserve policy trying to make sure we fully understand.
15:50:47 We're a small business, so cash flow is is what probably is most important to us, but we also recognize that 3 of our basically 3 counties pay 50% of our news.
15:50:58 So we're also cognizant of the risk that's associated with that.
15:51:02 I mean our auditors constantly remind us that you know you have, you know, a pretty good chunk of revenue coming in from these 3 jurisdictions, and that's a potential risk reserve
that you should think about in future reserve policies as well, so because it's based
15:51:15 on population, space. Not population. Yeah, Actually, it's based on population.
15:51:19 With King County, Capt. At 25% of our dues and they have about 29% of the state population.
15:51:24 So every county pays a base amount of about $2,500, and then King county capital, 25% of the dues, and it's been The population is then spread out.
15:51:35 so for the rest of the 38 counties to pay for.
15:51:38 After that paste uses is assembled, but the base isn't much.
15:51:42 A 2,500 piece, but so King County would be paying like 500 k King Kennedy pays about 250,000 of our general dues.
15:51:52 Yep, yup about that. Are there any counties that aren't members?
15:51:55 Nope. Every county is a member and a deuce paying member.
15:52:00 Have been for a while. Every now and then we hear rumblings, you know, because of either a policy choice that we might have made, or the the recession was tough on counties.
15:52:09 King County, cause. It was oh, 8, o 9, etc.
15:52:14 We Actually, ended up taking about 150,000 dues.
15:52:16 Reduction In 2,010. We race produced news about 15% in in part, because of the challenges you all were facing during that period of time, and even though it's not, all it wasn't
a big money it was more.
15:52:28 Symbolic in some regards, but it was real. So
15:52:33 The biggest thing you know you can see is for us is advocacy.
15:52:38 It's the largest, I think, component of what we deliver services for.
15:52:43 We'll talk a little bit about where we're at and legislative Agenda Development really appreciate Commissioner Dean, stepping into the co-chair.
15:52:49 Responsibility of our legislative steering committee along with Brad Pitt from Franklin County.
15:52:57 And so, if you kind of just kind of flip over, you can see on page 12 our legislative scaring committee.
15:53:02 Yeah, just 2 things here as far as advocacy.
15:53:07 And since we just come off the budget here, I just like to point out that we're getting as counties.
15:53:14 We are getting a lot more bang for the buck out of our association than we used to.
15:53:20 I know. When I started it was all about the Legislature.
15:53:24 Your legislators, and Lsc. And that's what our policy people did.
15:53:28 That's what we did, You kind of focused in on one part of the year.
15:53:33 with the pandemic. Once I started offering the Monday virtual assemblies, you know, in an effort to keep us all informed, and try to keep us up on what was going on.
15:53:44 Then that worked into the recovery funds and the Arpa funds, and bringing in all the different resources we needed to understand that.
15:53:55 So that is one part, and that has continued going on.
15:53:58 But that's manpower, you know. It takes to do that also.
15:54:04 Our advocacy has gone beyond the Legislature.
15:54:06 We're now. They have been involved in the judicial branch as well as the guy's office, and several of the state agencies, to the point where legislative you know, laws are kind
of slack and they end up getting chucked into the State agencies to make the rules
15:54:25 and bring out the details. And so our staff is been requested, not just elbowed.
15:54:31 Our way in. But the wasteack staff is now being requested to participate in in those processes.
15:54:38 So it's just a whole lot more than what we were doing before, and I think that's also Eric gets about to to a week request for county representation on some committee or panel
or State agency, committee and and you know, rulemaking and things like that and that but that's
15:55:01 where the rubber hits. The road is on that rule, making, as as we all know, and I would also like to thank Commissioner Dean for picking up on the Lsc.
15:55:14 as President, I made the appointments. Well, I shouldn't make.
15:55:18 I made the request of our members, because if they say no, there's no appointment.
15:55:26 But, anyway, I both Commissioner Peckin, Commissioner Dean, were of like minds that we needed to bring stability and bring our commissioners along, and our association to point
of where we're back to a green on common themes and We all have differences, and I think, you've
15:55:42 done a very good job at that, and thank you. Thank you.
15:55:46 I wondered if you put us in that position, because it would silence us both We have to be with to be a diplomat instead of 2, taking strong positions you chose some outliers.
15:55:58 I don't think that ever came up in the discussion, but it the lse is A is a body of 43 folks, 39 counties.
15:56:10 Every county has a has an equal voice, and each county executives.
15:56:14 The 4 count executives also have a seat as well or a delegate, that they can appoint another elected officials.
15:56:20 So those 43 folks really established the policy direction for the organization.
15:56:24 They recommend. A legislative agenda every year to the membership.
15:56:28 Membership adopts that, and then, really, if you look at the the, the direction for the organization, then as well, really provides a a really, generally a good balance of voices.
15:56:40 there it's it's not always quote political, you know, X amount of X amount of folks that might lean Democrat or X amount that might lean Republican.
15:56:51 It's yeah. But there is a mixture of the definitely is there, and available for the for the discussion.
15:56:58 So it's a good group, and one of the things we're at right now is in the midst of is establishing the 2023 a legislative Agenda We had our first meeting back in May of this
last May.
15:57:12 I guess it was and that legislative that legislative meeting with our legislative hearing committee produced, initiated with probably almost 200 different ideas, got narrowed
down, to 60 which I think staff wish it would have been narrowed.
15:57:25 A little further, and then we've been working with about 5 different subcommittees since that period of time We'll be going to the Legislative steering committee now in September
20Â s to kind of select the the key priorities.
15:57:37 That we will address for the 2023 legislative session, most of those subcommittees.
15:57:43 Work has all been done now. The report has been produced in the Ls.
15:57:46 Co-chairs have seen it. We getting that out to our legislative group that they'll work through the final kind of narrowing and winnowing process, to select the priorities for
the organization, that will then go to the membership better november a general membership meeting on
15:57:59 November sixteenth. It is. We'll talk about that here in a moment. But it's still the Ls.
15:58:04 That adopts it, the final
15:58:13 Some nibble in at the edges. Yep! But it's pretty rare.
15:58:17 Oh, so I don't want to spend too much time on the 2,022 end of session.
15:58:22 Happy to take any questions you have. We do have our 22 end of session, report which is now in some regards dated since I think that ended last March.
15:58:33 this did go out electronically, and was part of both Friday 5 and some year end, reporting that we do so, really, hoping you stay engaged in the legislative process and understand,
that, you know, we we work really closely with the membership to make sure that we're representing their
15:58:49 views, and during legislative session. It's once a week we're with our legislative steering committee talking with our legislative co-chairs.
15:58:57 If there's issues to be had, we work. We have a very robust, large policy document.
15:59:05 That kind of guides us that provides us the kind of the template on issues There will be 3 or 4,000 depending on the year bills introduced about 3 force of Those will somehow
touch county government they may adopt.
15:59:17 600 or so of so bills, so we don't bring every one of those to legislative steering committee. So we guys.
15:59:24 Have the we have the general parameters. If it preempts our local control, we're pretty much probably not going to be truly in favor of it.
15:59:30 But we work within the parameters that are provided for that dot for 4 by The membership.
15:59:37 So I don't know if there's any questions or anything you'd like to add about the legislative process or legislative development process.
15:59:44 Or if you have any questions you've been engaged, Commissioner Dean, for a period of time now.
15:59:49 But yeah, definitely, something. We spend a lot of time on
15:59:55 And we get a lot of updates great, and we work closely in particular with your I mean, your 3 legislators.
16:00:06 We work closely, with in a variety of capacities To 2 of them we like to think no county government pretty well, since they served in this capacity, and Senator Van Der Wagh
we work closely with our natural resource, issues as well in his role so it's been a great
16:00:21 They're great partners for us up here on the Peninsula.
16:00:24 happy to answer any more questions. But in the interest of time, maybe I'll just keep keep rolling as well. Then we have the Federal priorities and Federal issues document,
and it is shown here for you we this is a more of a recent phenom we started this about half a dozen years
16:00:43 ago we started this. Maybe even a little bit longer than that ago, when we were going back to Dc.
16:00:48 And meeting with our delegation at the At a Nico Meet National Association Counties meeting and meeting with our delegation, they were oftentimes just social visits.
16:00:58 And we knew there were some very specific issues and relations with with the Federal Government, And so we started working.
16:01:04 This, Then Commissioner Ken Dalstad kind of led the the effort to get us to start, to put into paper the nexus and relationship between county government and in the Federal
Government.
16:01:16 And so we started, produce this document about half a dozen years ago, to more on focus our intentional communication with our delegation about issues that were important to
us as a broad policy document but at the same time we do priorities each year and those priorities are shown on page 16 they are
16:01:38 They've been pretty consistent for a bit now.
16:01:40 Secure real schools and payment. Lewis taxes is historically one of our our major ones, because it it does represent almost 40 million dollars.
16:01:50 That comes to 2 counties, and you can see the chart on page 17.
16:01:54 That really shows the kind of the public land payments those showing in the bottom and yellow, or the Federal side.
16:02:01 And then you have the state side as well. But we focus in this document on the Federal side.
16:02:05 So if you look at Jefferson County 1 point, 6 million in pill to us almost 800,000 and schools.
16:02:14 Most of that goes to your road fund and pilt comes to your general fund, and can be utilized with a lot of flexibility.
16:02:20 The payment. Low taxes comes to your general fund. So I'm sorry. Sorry I no courthouse briefing document. That's Still, right. I'm bouncing around So in the Federal Federal
issue.
16:02:35 booklet on page 7. It talks about. They support restoring secure rural schools, funding back to historic 25% funding level
16:02:45 What is that a 25% funding level represent?
16:02:51 has just been talking about secure rural schools today.
16:02:53 Yeah, Well, historically, you would receive 25% of the harvest that was occurring within your county on on the Olympic National Forest Lands.
16:03:05 You got 25, and that was that was during the during the glory days of timber harvest, free pre-spotted out There's a lot of resources for the peninsula accounting, and then
we started to see the reduction of the northwest force plan.
16:03:22 Was adopted that sip the stage for what was called 25.
16:03:25 Okay, 25% of what had been the historic harvest.
16:03:30 And so over time that has been diminished by about 5% annually.
16:03:35 Now by the Federal Government. So what are we getting now?
16:03:41 Well, I I don't know how many 5% reductions we have had over the past.
16:03:44 Probably 15 years, and so it just keeps getting reduced.
16:03:49 Probably. Yeah, probably. Yeah, So we're, you know, the the goal for us at the national level is to restore that back to not the cutting back, but to the types.
16:03:59 Of funding. The counties were getting back to that 25 of that historic harvest level.
16:04:06 Hello. Eric! The the 794, Ss.
16:04:10 In 2,020 is that for schools and roads I'd have to go and look to see if that represents all titles or not.
16:04:22 But yeah, 1, 2 in 3. Yeah, it could be all titles.
16:04:26 Yeah, the state portion of schools goes to Ospi, not to the county to distribute to your affected districts.
16:04:38 It goes to Ospi, and is actually to actually yeah, it is actually deducted from what they otherwise received.
16:04:50 Get a discussion on the distribution today, and we talked about that.
16:04:54 Jeff talked about that. I think that's the total then, or old titles.
16:04:58 Okay. Yup it won't be just your roadfund title.
16:05:02 It will be those that you distribute to to projects in the district.
16:05:06 2, 23, Yep. And then there's I don't know if you have any refuge payment I have.
16:05:14 I should have paid attention to you all. If you have any.
16:05:17 Yeah, you do have a little bit of small refuge payment as well for us.
16:05:22 Fish, and wildlife service. So you must have a small Us.
16:05:24 Fish, and wildlife, service, the pill, and now and we're still waiting for the magical local assistance and tribal consistency funding they now have.
16:05:40 What How many days left 20, some days left. So we'll see.
16:05:44 Yeah, they're they're gonna wait till the the bitter end.
16:05:48 And the guidance is after the money, is not it?
16:05:53 If I haven't heard that it's actually being used as a a a chip.
16:06:03 Yup! I've not heard anything does not appear to be definitely.
16:06:06 And now, yeah, folks within our own State. So we've been very, been very vocal on what the widen language said, which was for both really Federal land payments, and that that
is fraud can in broad context that has a number of other including grazing lands and other types
16:06:31 of payments, but he specifically mentions choral schools and payment low taxes.
16:06:36 But then they also talk about other. There are some other triggers associated with that.
16:06:41 So How us Treasury, who has not really reached out to the groups, necessarily that widen, asked to in his coochial on the floor.
16:06:51 But it's not in statute is, is? We'll see what we'll see what emerges.
16:06:56 We have some counties here that think secure schools should be, get all the money.
16:06:59 If you're a county, and look down the Ss.
16:07:02 through the Ss. And that Ss number might be bigger than your pilt.
16:07:08 You would like to see this money become. Yes. Rs: focus.
16:07:12 so Stacy is obviously listening cause You just resend the secure role schools history for Jefferson County.
16:07:19 Thank you, Stacey. Yep. They're not subject to Bill
16:07:29 No, no! Our tribal lands not subject, Bill. It's us 4 service.
16:07:34 Blm. And National Park Service, or the your Primary Bill counties with that Arpa, that special arpa is linked specifically to pills, not key components to it. Yeah, there are
some other it could be the refuge payment.
16:07:52 You know these are department of energy payments, or are is kind of a pill like for Hanford.
16:07:59 As well, yeah, so and there's some grazing Blm: land payments.
16:08:04 There's some other payments like that that are could potentially be brought into it.
16:08:10 so anyway. So that's secure schools, payment them.
16:08:13 I I would just use one other example that we have really been to others, Maybe to talk about one is is the Medicaid inmate exclusion.
16:08:23 this is been a kind of a lingering one for us festering.
16:08:27 I guess I'm not sure what the right term would be.
16:08:30 Where went, and individual is arrested and incarcerated, they lose their Medicaid benefit, regardless of whether we release them.
16:08:39 In 2 days, 3 days not charged, but the because they were incarcerated, and and they, and and under arrest.
16:08:48 They then lose that benefit, and we have been arguing for some time that they shouldn't lose that benefit.
16:08:54 and post adjudication, we understand that that might be different.
16:08:57 But nonetheless, that that that is any existence in federal federal rule, not to say federal law, and the Medicaid rule, and we have been working with our State health, care
authority, because we were able to pass a law to require them to submit a waiver section 1115 waiver to change that for
16:09:20 the State of Washington. And so we've been working that angle as well, and so that 1115 waiver was submitted sometime in may. So we're hoping that you're back. Even if we don't
get a change it's Federal level.
16:09:29 We would like, to at least think we could get the waiver, So there's at the very least suspension of the benefit and not termination of the benefit.
16:09:39 Because what's happening now? We're having to create these systems to get folks re-enrolled as well when they're released, and then our chair current share.
16:09:47 Is Rob Gelder, the Federal Relations Committee. You see, the folks who are on that.
16:09:51 Currently anyone has an interest to serving that. I think we are out with the recruitment right now to serve on the Federal issues and Relations Committee as well.
16:10:00 And then the Federal issues Document has a lot more information around a variety of of other areas of policy, statements associated with that.
16:10:08 I know that one not to kick the nets, but one that has been most talked about is our is our or Columbia River.
16:10:20 one which includes the very controversial issue of of Columbia River operations, and the removal of the 4 Lower Snake River Dam.
16:10:31 So, which which still is probably pretty accurate, until we see the full eis, but at some point we'll have to start to look at what the what the mitigation solutions are and
whether or not those mitigation solutions are in sync with the things that we identified would need resolution
16:10:51 to as we support the removal as the as our policy document stands.
16:10:59 Now, isn't it? Don't we oppose the removal because of a local control?
16:11:05 we have, that without adequate, convincing, peer-reviewed science, and the assurances Bossack doesn't support removal of the 4 local Snake River dams.
16:11:15 Was it on local control. But it is really about assurances that the I.
16:11:21 They identified issues around mitigation for a number of those people, things from transportation of from transportation to recreation to water, storage and water, And you know
irrigation etc., what's what's the what are the alternatives going to be for
16:11:39 mitigating the loss of those activities
16:11:50 So page. 19 has the kind of the laundry list of things that we're asking for to see what this solutions are.
16:11:56 Also in the Murray Inslee Report chapter once the comment period close.
16:12:03 I was reading what their conclusions were, which are pretty close to what we at least what's in our what's in our policy about the Snake River dams that you know we can do it
as soon as we identify the mitigation and can Accomplish the mitigation
16:12:21 for the services that would be lost by breaching the data.
16:12:23 Yeah, So I I was amazed that that actually came pretty close to what we've already got written down Well, then, why wouldn't we say that as opposed to does not support removal.
I mean we've written a letter and support when Simpson came out with his early plan which talked about
16:12:39 developing mitigations. We said, family support developing mitigation, Why wouldn't you say it Because we're out numbers But it may be maybe language that the the that you know
Fisher gelder who's chair of that?
16:12:53 Committee can? Work with that group to see if they want to say, you know, with convincing evidence and assurances, Wahsack can support. Removal.
16:13:01 The 4 doms with the following: Yeah, they could. They could work with that language, hey?
16:13:06 yeah, I'm damn and loving. Yeah, you should join the Federal issues.
16:13:16 hmm! So let me turn to litigation.
16:13:21 I I would just say in general, I mean there's been times when you know this was an issue that was hard for the group to get to and to deal with from the absolute.
16:13:28 We got to remove the absolute will never remove. And so how do you?
16:13:31 How do you crap language? That, at least has some rational basis to it?
16:13:37 Hopefully, Litigation amicus briefs amicus priest is really slow down.
16:13:43 We used to do about an amicus brief once every other month, and that has largely slowed down because the civil courts in the State of Washington have really slowed down they're
just not because of their between covid and prioritizing criminal work about that there.
16:13:58 Just hasn't been the the civil docket in counties to the degree that had been historically so.
16:14:04 I can't believe we're getting sued any less than we have been in the past at the county level.
16:14:09 So there's got to be something else going on.
16:14:12 so we're we can see some of the issues on page 19 that we've done amicus briefs on more recently.
16:14:19 And So that's it generally has to focus on the kind of the core, constitutional and organic responsibilities of county government.
16:14:26 And so we look at those We also look at things that might have, you know it might be an open public meeting case that came out of a city.
16:14:35 I have a school. District, we might meet this into that, because it has crossover responsibilities, but many of these have some linkage directly to county government, or a decision
associated with county government our litigation program has 2 active cases, right Now, It is indigent defense and
16:14:54 and the Blake decision. We have authorization to pursue indigent defense litigation, and this is a how broke out of a concern that we have that the State's not fulfilling its
constitutional duty to both funded and assure the
16:15:07 adequacy, of indigent defense across the State of Washington, and we have, We are nearing completion of preparing to file the case.
16:15:17 We have kits app County, Yakima County, and Lincoln County, or co- plaintiffs along with us.
16:15:24 We have a Pacifica log group is our outside legal council.
16:15:29 We have an expert at a Seattle New he ended. The world of indigenous events, representing and working with us on really the fact, fighting to show the lack of uniformity across
the State of Washington in delivering indigent defense and public defense walking that tight
16:15:47 line, to try and not show that any county is not meeting the constitutional duty, while at the same time stating that it's really the State's obligation to be able to do that
we will be arguing that the state's responsibility.
16:16:01 Is to fund it. First county, spend about 160 million dollars annually on indigent defense.
16:16:08 300, and 20 million a biennium, and we get about 4% reimbursement of that.
16:16:12 So yeah, and you were the budget numbers that you had here 2 billion more than the governor asked for it.
16:16:18 Clearly they can afford it. Yeah, And what they argued in the what was called the Davison case, which was out of Grace Harbor County, in a juvenile case about 4 years ago.
16:16:27 They argued that they fulfilled their obligation, the city being the state by number one, who delegated to the counties as their 8, as their constitutional agent, and number
2 we gave you taxing authority to pay for it, and the Co.
16:16:43 Supreme Court, remanded it back to Thurston County, saying that you have not fulfilled your You've not.
16:16:53 You've not made convincing argument that you have filled your duty because you're not demonstrated that you've given county's adequate taxing authority to fulfill it.
16:17:01 You've made that argument, but you've not proven it, and we we didn't make this brief on that, and knew what their argument was obviously, and we said court, that decision about
adequacy.
16:17:13 Of funding is not been briefed in. It's not before you, and so the court remanded back to Thurston County, Aclu, which was the had brought.
16:17:24 The case, was not interested in arguing. Who's whose responsibility is to fund.
16:17:29 They are very interested to share. There's adequacy of indigent pensacity to Washington, and we know there's not uniformity across the State.
16:17:38 There's tremendous discrepancies between between service that in some cases it's kind of can't find.
16:17:44 It turns. So you have. Yeah, Do we have folks having their first appearance in their case dismissed because they can't find the turning to represent someone during first appearance,
or just things like that you like uniformity, lack uniformity in the full delivery of service
16:18:00 to individual, from investors to the potentially interpreters.
16:18:06 All sorts of things like that that are not necessarily uniformly delivered throughout the State.
16:18:11 And that's a That's a problem for the State, not for counties.
16:18:14 Oh! So is that did the the education and blinking on education case.
16:18:21 Mccleary, just from our little Jefferson county.
16:18:24 did that set a precedence for uniformity.
16:18:26 You think that will be cause? That was yeah, somewhat related to There is the difference. There is.
16:18:34 There is different constitutional language around education, then then necessarily counties; but there is some parallel arguments to be made.
16:18:42 There is one parallel argument to be made in a Seattle case in education where you shouldn't expect the citizens to have to vote for constitutional duties, and that was a K.
16:18:55 Through 13, and so you could draw a similar conclusion around Do you have enough taxing at the in one of their argument is well, you can always do it.
16:19:04 Let me live that again. We're going to the voters for paying a constitutional duty.
16:19:08 Okay, right? So who is writing a lot of them? Let me guess right now.
16:19:14 simple deputies. Primarily we work with with counties, and the Associate crossing attorneys to do our amicus briefs, and from time to time we'll do outside legal counsel for
for them.
16:19:27 As well. So if if they provide an amicus, it might get submitted under the umbrella of I will work. We will intentionally reach out to a set of civil deputies, or the outside
legal Council that might be representing a county we might contract with or someone
16:19:47 associated with them, or you know, we might just work with our outside legal council, but we try and find a civil deputy, first, because it's the least expensive way for us.
16:19:59 So so. And then there's some great civil deputies out, and they know county government, and they know the issues.
16:20:07 So that's our main preference. The second issue, the second case that has been filed is the Blake decision case.
16:20:15 This is there's 2 Blake decision cases out. One is the civil survival project that did a class action lawsuit against a few counties, but ultimately desire to wrap in all 39
counties in the State of Washington for civil damages associated with that we're not a part of that your
16:20:31 risk rule likely is a part of that. The Blake decision that we are part of is, we're joined by 21 counties to to ask the courts to rule that the state is solely responsible
to pay for all claims for and costs associated with implementing Blake decision and
16:20:49 so far the Legislature has been great In this arena we are very pleased with the types of allocations that they've been made, which are covering the cost of legal financial
obligations the cost of resetencing the cost of of both the digit defense and prosecutor for time all those things that we can
16:21:07 Bill Associated with implementing the Blake decision. What's we are most worried about is actually is the future claims that could come, and there could be some horrific ones
that you can think about from someone that lost their home because they were arrested lost their job had a foreclosure
16:21:24 on their home. And now they want to claim for that to someone that might have lost rights to their children.
16:21:32 for being arrested and incarcerated, and then losing potential rights to lots of wage loss of jobs, etc.
16:21:42 And so we see their future claims could be real whether it's class action, type of claims, or whether they're individual claims that claims likely to come to the county and
we believe that the State should be obligated to pay whatever those claims are and they should be
16:21:58 redirected to the State of Washington. So we are in King County, Superior Court.
16:22:03 We've had obviously a first hearing, but 2 waiting for the next set in the in the trial. Do we anticipate any more legislative fixes to that?
16:22:17 Hmm. To the Blake decision Yeah, like, they I know that some members of Ls have, you know, continually wanted there to be some legislation that would help clarify.
16:22:30 are they just not like to dabble in the the judicial branch?
16:22:36 yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the cities are gonna be weighing in on reform on the overall reform package that could in fact, include some definition of of laws around possession.
16:22:53 Yeah, what does possession laws look like? And so that's more moving forward
16:22:59 I think there is a question about how long back do we have to wait, or if someone hasn't made a claim in 10 years for legal financial obligations, are we still obligated interestingly
enough on legal, financial obligations and and I know the clerk knows, this what they're putting in place.
16:23:14 next year, a a legal financial obligation bureau at the administrator, the courts, and so future legal financial obligations will go to to administrator the courts.
16:23:26 So those will not be subject to. So once the court rules those they'll pass that on to administrative ports for reimbursement it won't have to be done through the county, so
it'll be even fewer lfs There will he Yeah, there'll be fewer.
16:23:42 Left out of the post but fewer Lfo. Obligations
16:23:45 So that's where we're at. With Blake decision, and stay tuned.
16:23:48 I think you know, like I I understand that there the case of the existing civil survival project on Civil is is probably not very strong, because they not really fully developed
any case law to show any ones has been denied as a civil lawsuit or have produced the damages associated with that on any
16:24:13 consistent basis, but it won't be long till I think we see that and we we're party to that, aren't we?
16:24:20 Are we party to that lawsuit? I feel like we are.
16:24:23 I don't know this. 21 counties. I don't know. I believe we are.
16:24:28 Yes, I should know it's actually Benton is the lead county.
16:24:32 We have outside legal council that we've retained on behalf of all 39 counties and 21 have directly file.
16:24:41 Is. Oh, thank you as well, and I'll get the Co.
16:24:46 Point to list for you membership communication services, kind of our pages 20 and 21 a little bit about that.
16:24:53 Obviously you know we we pivoted significantly and started our virtual assembly.
16:24:58 And you know, technology really has allowed us to really, I think, State engage with the members.
16:25:02 We did a complete, you know, a complete, newly elected officials training virtually.
16:25:07 I'm sorry. You were the the guinea pig to that that world, and hopefully, we'll be back in person for newly elected officials.
16:25:16 This coming December, but just so much new virtual type of opportunities which has been really beneficial in many regards for us as well.
16:25:26 but we did. We did our our really robust water training that we're still finishing part 5 up right now for that we did our timber counties training, we were probably do a land
use in kind of a human services.
16:25:39 Public safety one over the next year will be kind of our next big focal point from an educational track.
16:25:45 so really trying to look at subject matter tracks over the next couple of years, That would be beneficial for our elected officials, And so if there are, if there is a subject
matter, we did our local first ever local board of health.
16:25:57 Training, So I think we'll be doing more local board of Health training.
16:26:00 We're actually even thinking about more to help conferences that we would be more policy-oriented as well.
16:26:06 So we doing some survey and outreach to local boards of health, get some of their input into that as well.
16:26:11 So a lot going on. We do a Friday 5. We have a business partner program.
16:26:15 We'll talk about here in just a moment. Oh, we have a job board that we've launched as well for counties to to utilize in recruitment so lot lot going on in the Member services
World when will the next Cdi courses come online we've got a bunch out
16:26:31 there now, new ones. I don't know if you've seen those we have, we do, have we?
16:26:38 Have a a communications one we've, if the labor one out there now, or they're taping the labor one right now.
16:26:46 Maybe so. And we're actually updating the kind of to a learning page. It's going to be called a learning page, and that everything's gonna be like the historical There's just
a whole bunch of things that we're gonna have kind of tracks in in on the learning
16:27:03 page so it'd be more of a one-stop page.
16:27:05 You can go to for Cdi, and any open type of activities are trying to do local board of health some of those types of things.
16:27:13 So it'll be a learning section there, too.
16:27:19 And then county leadership Conference is November 1415, sixteenth, not the best date, so cause they do include a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, which conflicts with people's board
meetings, and then this is a remnant of dates.
16:27:35 And working with a conference. So we had to cancel the during during during Covid, and working with the hotel to keep dates and working with the hotel, so we didn't get a penalty,
and so these were the dates that we all ended up with on so I hope
16:27:49 you can join us for that. We are at King County at a really nice property south end of Lake Washington, and a fairly reasonable price for being in a in a urban King County Area
Oh, You sure Do; You're carrying an old one around it was really old you had W.
16:28:11 But you had one year off in you. It's yeah I said. Who's the president in your Yeah, funny?
16:28:26 and then business partner program, you know, there's just 2.
16:28:29 Maybe I would call out on pages 22 and 23 are our most used program.
16:28:35 Actually is the National Association counties. You a nationwide insurance program nationwide insurance 457 program, all 39 of our counties participate in the nationwide. A deferred
compensation program, for the 457 program We have a number of
16:28:49 counties. And it grew up to 5 that are actually using this from a burning perspective.
16:28:55 To apply a matching amount to a 457 program.
16:28:59 If they participate in it as well so another tool that I've seen a number of our counties going to, and then the cash vest by 3.
16:29:07 So maybe the treasurer is still listening. I know they had a presentation at the Treasures Association Conference.
16:29:12 She's probably shaking her head. She is still here.
16:29:22 showing collection. So she's she's on it.
16:29:23 and this is a an interesting tool. We have sketchy counties actually doing the W.
16:29:29 Doing it right now with cash best where they will come in and look at a number of things, and we did A.
16:29:35 We did a virtual assembly on this. I don't know if any of you are on that here.
16:29:38 About a month ago, Would they look at your liquidity, and how much is available to invest?
16:29:43 And are you maximizing your liquidity for investment purposes?
16:29:47 It doesn't change necessarily any of your investment strategies except to look at liquidity counties, are very conservative historically.
16:29:56 And How much we're willing to invest, how much we have need to keep available from a liquidity perspective.
16:30:03 and so, this really does some deeper analysis in that for you.
16:30:06 and then they also can look at your banking fees and do some analysis around baking fees and investment fees, and make recommendations, and they also are very clear that if
you have, if you if they bind you savings and you get to pay a price, portal share what those savings could
16:30:21 be, and likewise if they don't find you any, you don't pay anything for the analysis.
16:30:25 So Sketch County is gonna get is our kind of our first case in Washington State that will be doing this.
16:30:32 And so we'll be able to have the county treasurer and and the share of the county sketch.
16:30:40 Can, which is the auditor. The chair in the treasure, be able to report back to our members in November to talk a little bit about what they found in their in their analysis,
and so there's other counties throughout the nation that have been doing this a lot longer than than us and so
16:30:54 it's a definitely potential way for counties to utilize a business, to look at, ways to have more in investing.
16:31:02 And then, since I have 2Â min left, Okay, I was just gonna say we're we at. We close the courthouse in 2Â min.
16:31:09 So coastal counties Caucus, Columbia Rokakis, and Timberland Program is kind of the the big components that we have in terms of caucus groups.
16:31:22 And I know, Mr. Dean. You've been active in the coastal caucus.
16:31:34 okay, and there you have one item. Thank you. Well, might not get to those. Then. We're not.
16:31:39 We're not super strict, Carolyn would like us to be, but she knows that we are unruly.
16:31:46 Yeah, Well, I don't want to keep you here anymore.
16:31:54 Anyway, the couple of things that I was wondering about is we all as a as an association We've discussed it as a county.
16:32:01 We really discuss it. We're in the middle of labor negotiations.
16:32:05 is your retention wage pressure and retention, and it's my question to you as a Council member and as an officer.
16:32:17 What are you doing or are you? I'm I'm sure you're I'm not gonna say I'm sure it's all probability you're having the same issues So talked.
16:32:25 About it today. I was just wondering if you would have any thing that how you're addressing them.
16:32:31 Well in our most recent negotiating cycle, We, with the extra mile, and trying to improve compensation we could bottom 2 steps off the word or graves, so we went from 20 steps
to 10 add into step, at the time Yeah, so people who've been topped out for a
16:32:55 decade lose, and Everyone got a second step. We also negotiated in 9%.
16:33:04 Hey? Adjustment one and then 2 zeros, and and so that was a substantial increase quite a bit higher than our previous bargaining agreements.
16:33:15 But but we know also that the city and the port and the Pd.
16:33:20 They're doing likewise. And so have we not done that we would have lost ground.
16:33:25 and then, of course, the inflation that we're seeing into that 9%, almost completely.
16:33:29 Okay, So we're going to meet with the board this falls to discuss parameters for the next negotiating cycle.
16:33:38 But certainly we have to continue to try to improve our company.
16:33:42 Conversation, just to say even with the company. Our our wages were historically pretty low, so in some ways it felt like getting them just up to, you know, hopefully competitive
position And and we've had really strong revenues.
16:34:01 So it's hard not to do that, you know. I think we feel justified in doing that.
16:34:06 Given, the position. We've been in the last couple of years, and we got some success recently. 2 months ago, I think we had 26 vacancies.
16:34:14 We're down to 12. We found some on, I think you know our heads about water, and we hope to keep it.
16:34:27 But you know recruiting and retention, incentives are things that are coming up now in a way that they didn't feed them, and our negotiation last year back there Yeah, we have
county and $25,000 sign bonus law enforcement you know and law
16:34:49 enforcement. Yeah, and housing as an underlying issue to all of this work.
16:34:55 Yeah, I'm sure it is in your county, too, the only more unaffordable county than Jefferson.
16:35:02 Yeah, yeah, how team is I mean, we always hear that I know it's hard hard to tell.
16:35:10 And our county, because you hear that. And then do you? Someone gets hired and finds a house.
16:35:14 It's like how they do that, you know. So I think it's kind of hit and missed right now.
16:35:21 Do know them, the activity and the prices of leveled off. But that just means it leveled off at a very high level
16:35:30 Okay, And this is something just because I know, with Jefferson County we've talked about the I can't remember it, anyway.
16:35:42 Oh, development credits and be able to do that outside of your county.
16:35:48 But also, there's the program. And, Eric, I can't remember the name of it.
16:35:52 The one we were just talking about, the encumbered lands program, and I you have reputation.
16:35:59 I'm on that one. I mean, it's it affects right now.
16:36:04 It's affecting very few people, but I'm just wondering I think it's something that's gonna be coming along.
16:36:10 So I'm just one of your and comment on it.
16:36:13 Well, it's interesting, because half the counties on that committee are talking about, and conferences related to Spotted Als and the other half are talking about encumbrances
related to mirrorlets.
16:36:22 But we're having the same issues, right? So there's a little bit we're just.
16:36:29 We just had like our first meeting. So there's a little bit of a just figuring out what the underlying issues are right now.
16:36:36 but it feels like there needs to be some kind of funding solution to kind of level a playing field, and I don't know what that's going to be.
16:36:46 But hopefully by the end of our work group together, It's Paul's doing a good job of of leading us along that will have some solutions to share with the county. Family.
16:36:56 Hmm.
16:37:03 Any questions for us, or or issues. You'd like us to make sure we take note of, but especially in lighted narrowing down the legislative priorities that are going on as well
regional seage capacity Yeah, something I'm working on but I know Thurston pacific kids.
16:37:24 That we're all having issues with septage capacity.
16:37:29 Well, it's mostly our our local wastewater treatment provider, goodman, sanitation, who's emptying septic tanks, is saying they're reaching their capacity to dispose of it.
16:37:40 So we're working on solutions with department of ecology, And I just the weird hoping to float, a study bill or a proviso in the session Yeah, I reached out to James today,
that to you know help me with that because the guy was working with an
16:38:06 ecology could not find the language that he thought he had.
16:38:10 So we're working on it. But it's it's a it's an issue for multiple counties in Western Washington right now, I don't think it came up in Alright.
16:38:19 Let's see, environment, health practically been chatting about a little commissioners.
16:38:27 So is that the sewage treatment plan that's reaching this capacity, or where.
16:38:33 Okay, for this for solid sentence that that soils and grease which do get truck to Mason County with some regularity.
16:38:42 If if have capacity here, if you will. Oh, yeah, it's just an issue for a lot of us right now, like I think it's an issue also, because or maybe it's not coming.
16:38:54 Up like you were saying, because a lot of these in the smaller areas, that sewage treatment is some little district, or it's you know, it's not part of the county government
Okay, Charlie.
16:39:07 Needs to oversee it, but it's not part of kind of government.
16:39:08 I know in our area or general area, we're having the same issues.
16:39:14 They had this great idea with the Government Federal Government stepped up.
16:39:19 There you build 40 years ago, and now they all need updating them updating expansion and replacement of The money's not there, like just in my area.
16:39:31 Is it just just love this village? For anybody who's been there?
16:39:35 It's a 10 million dollar upgrade.
16:39:37 Oh, which I mean that should be well positioned for so Monday.
16:39:43 The infrastructure dollars, or for connected with that, too, is Lambert flexibility.
16:39:51 I think that's something that I have one I would love to question I mean, we have a Lammard with a lovely state park sewer in it that we can't touch right?
16:39:58 Now, and it's you know it feeds into these other problems when we're our hands are tied, easy, existing infrastructure, and in that case I think that's where we actually need
one flow.
16:40:09 Oh, yeah, for 4 stuff into it. That's the Joseph Wallace state.
16:40:14 yeah, it was designed when it was designed. It was designed to serve the Brennan core down there.
16:40:19 Hood Canal as well, and it's just we've done a bunch of studies recently, and and you know we can't demonstrate unrepairable commercial septic systems basically so we can't
unlock, that to make it work better use the capacity And really you
16:40:34 know, facilitate development and end up Brendan Core: Yeah, we're we're just talking about lambered flexibility and
16:40:49 That on our legislative agenda for a long time I know well there've been a couple of else that Paul called me, and to testify on, because in my district there's a Lammer that
could use some flexibility well this is one where you know when I was a
16:41:05 Commissioner. The There's 2 or 3 Democrats that we kept going to the last page saying, We're not asking the Oh, wow!
16:41:14 We're asking for some logical. You know usage of the tools that are available.
16:41:18 Yeah, glamor flexibility is one of the words not asking for new urban growth centers you know.
16:41:26 Far from the I 5 sprawl we're just trying to, you know, grow over and utilize the existing infrastructure design board
16:41:36 Well, and what what has been allowed in language has. How's that?
16:41:42 In effect. Okay, And now it's like you're saying, Got a source sitting there right?
16:41:47 It can be expanded. Right? Oh, great! And then might have better environmental outcomes.
16:41:53 It would it? Would Yeah, a little thickening right?
16:42:00 that was not a I Gotcha.
16:42:05 So hmm, good other unique issues, are there challenging. I think you want to sorry we don't need more time.
16:42:14 Sorry we got. I know I mean we we are unique and have issues, and I think a lot of them don't reach a critical mass at, and that's that can be a little Tricky Sam on county
share some of those with us.
16:42:32 But Yeah, I mean, often we're we're kind of torn between constituencies in our own community, right?
16:42:38 Such a strong environmental ethic. And yes, you know, we would love to see landmarks.
16:42:44 There's attention there right that could be a strength for some county offers to.
16:42:49 Was that, too, Because we are really kind of we straddle those 2.
16:42:51 Yeah, world with a lot of nuance that you might not see in some other organization.
16:42:57 A lot of conversation here about State forest land issues. Yeah, Yeah, I need this to say probably, yeah, and and have proposed to Dnr to work with them to manage our State
trust lands differently.
16:43:12 and that's probably gonna be real quickly. We've got a postcard campaign directed at us right now Yeah, from the forest industry.
16:43:20 So for taking money away from the junior texting districts.
16:43:24 So Oh, it's gonna be a selling a year or 2 of some tricky, you know, trying to thread that needle on.
16:43:34 Yeah, we we been talking loosely, at the initial stages, and it will start Merging, I think, is, didn't we strengthen the the capability to reconvene?
16:43:51 You're your trust land for a broader set of uses that can include community force.
16:44:01 you take it back. You could always contract back for their timber management, but you get to have more.
16:44:07 Stay in having a rebate for broader set of uses that would be continued include timber management.
16:44:13 But good value in your community is different than a sustainable harvest at the level that in our yeah, I think we would support that plans briefly.
16:44:26 We've not had a broader conversation with the entire county family per se around where you can ban.
16:44:32 but it certainly it could be a tool, be available, Well, you've got a pilot project in Jefferson County right now, ongoing and is interested in another conversation.
16:44:45 As Well, for reconveyance, for on broader purpose.
16:44:48 Yeah, I think what come to right. Heavily aggressive in reconveyance, And I think they probably would like it.
16:44:57 Well, yeah, I like the way that you frame that week advance is different than I've heard before.
16:45:10 But it also gives you some broader abilities to to start talking about where you want those properties to
16:45:19 Thanks, You guys, I don't know short on time.
16:45:25 It's great to be up here Let's see a nice meeting.
16:45:32 Yeah, Yeah, I think we're all planning to go.
16:45:38 yeah, see you. And a year this term limited.
16:45:47 last his last year in office. Yes. Oh, yeah, 3 terms.
16:46:05 yeah, yeah, in fact, that one all 4, Erica, wake up, call?
16:46:15 And he almost swerved off the road. So Michael margin could be on the entire new.
16:46:21 all of them are up or so yeah, So once we were driving on one of these trips, and I said, you realize that you could have a whole new executive for me.
16:46:34 Because everyone's up for election. Yeah, not gonna run.
16:46:42 And then, okay, Yeah, Questions: Yeah, Hmm: No.
16:46:49 I was sorry to hear that Councilmember, Lens and Commissioner Google are not running Yeah, Okay, I think that I think that short term rental ordinance took it out of Bob What
were you.
16:47:02 that's Shilling County, but in place yeah, that's one of the things we got to talk about.
16:47:06 Well, that left the mark on me. Yeah, this year. I've heard a little bit about your process.
16:47:14 So yeah, one term Commissioner and that's the surprise, too. And then Councilmember Lens is going to manage that historic press.
16:47:30 Oh, down, yeah, and he's gonna manage that.
16:47:34 Okay? Hmm: Cool: Well, we better vacation up this, because I went through 2 rounds.
16:47:46 2 different. So I also need to. I want to come out for and see your new.
16:47:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah, very exciting. I I would say, I jump on a float plane.
16:48:02 But that's not this week. Express will take you there.
16:48:09 With Friday Harbor Yeah, right to Harvard.
16:48:12 Yeah, put your bike Yeah, I'm going ferry issues, obviously that's a concern for us.
16:48:20 it's got a fairy county right? Yeah.
16:48:22 Yeah, but we lost. We lost our kind of the primary sure.
16:48:28 Who was your Council Member, who really kept those issues in front of us.
16:48:31 So something we should keep keep talking about. Well, We had our executive committee meeting to put together the budget for Wasack and since I'm President it was on Lopez and
I just want you to know the executive mini got the full meal, deal you
16:48:57 know whatever happened. You know, could be a variety of things.
16:49:01 They rejiggered the schedule, and so, instead of going from Lopez back then, or Portus, they got on, and then went to Friday harbor and I hope you made another stop. They came
back to local we've got gone to the Airport Sorry Commissioner
16:49:27 Yeah, that push your large into accounts 535.
16:49:33 We had. So for purposely, yeah, and I think I drop them up at 4. 30.
16:49:40 should have been about, you know one-third.