HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 2007 - MinutesJEFFERSON COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION
ADVISORY BOARD MEETING
Quilcene Community Center, Quilcene, Washington
May 2, 2007 Noon — 1:30 PM
OPENING BUSINESS
Rick Tollefson, Chair, called the meeting to order at 12:08 PM in the main room of the Quilcene Community
Center.
Members Present:
Judith Lucia, Judi Mackey, Brian Miller, Rick Tollefson
Members Absent:
Steve Crosland, Joan Linderoth, Phil Siemion
Staff Present:
Matt Tyler
G uests:
None
Agenda:
Chair Tollefson said he would like to add an item under New Business: July 4
Meeting date. Matt Tyler suggested adding an update on Policy/Process, and
discussion on adding a seat for a youth member. The agenda was approved,
as amended.
Minutes:
Correction: Page 2: "Quimper Trails Association", not "Quilcene ...";
"Warren Steurer", not Juan Stewart;
Page 3: will not be logged'
Page 4: Next meeting should be July meeting.
Page 5: it is known
Judith Lucia moved that the minutes for April 4 be approved as amended; the
motion was seconded. The minutes for April 4, 2007 were approved, as
amended, all in favor.
ROAD VACATIONS
'There were three Road Vacations for review. Kelli Larson had provided copies of maps and descriptions.
1. Richard and Carolyn Wasteneys — Request to vacate a portion of Roosevelt Street on plat at Irondale Acre
Tracts. The PRAB reviewed the plans for roads and development in the area, and determined that this vacation
had no bearing on Parks and Recreation.
2. James W. Pearson — Request to vacate the north one-half of the platted alley, lying adjacent to Lots 14 to
18, in order to acquire additional square footage adjacent to this property. The PRAB discussed this property;
Chair Tollefson said he was familiar with it and visited the property several times. He said he thought the
chance of it being used as an alley was almost zero. He said it had no consequence for Parks issues. Judith
Lucia stated this vacation had no bearing on Parks and Recreation; Chair Tollefson stated that that was the
consensus.
3. Scott and Mia Weidner — Request for vacation of south one-half of a platted alley adjacent to lots 20 — 27 in
Block 123. The PRAB briefly discussed this request and agreed that this vacation had no bearing on Parks and
Recreation.
Judith Lucia moved and Judi Mackey seconded that all three vacations have no bearing on Parks and
Recreation. Motion was approved, all in favor.
REGULAR/OLD BUSINESS
IAC Grant —There was a brief acknowledgement the grant application had been approved.
Youth member candidate sends regrets — Matt Tyler reported that the young man who had been interested in
participating will be unable to do so. His parents decided that he does not have time for this non -school
activity.
COMMUNITY PARK GRANT PROGRAM
Matt Tyler reported that this is up and running. He said that it would be advertised and project applications
will be brought to the PRAB in August for approval. Some of the potential projects include: 1. More disk
golf baskets for Frisbee golf; 2. Wild Olympic Salmon Shelter native plant demonstration garden; operator
wishes to add crushed rock on pathways and fix up the area surrounding the shelter; 3. Quimper Trails
Association wishes to acquire a digital camera to record their projects and a GPS for mapping projects;
discussions about equipment management protocols are underway.
H J CARROLL PARK PRESENTATION OF GRANT PROJECT SCOPE
Matt Tyler presented his slides that had been shown at the IAC. The presentation was organized into:
preview, the service area, the need, the design, the scope and public support. He showed the fields at
Memorial Park and H J Carroll, noting the regional draw. He noted that the project is in the 2002
Comprehensive Plan and the 2005 Strategic Plan. The top items cited in public need were fields, trails, and
skate parks. He covered number of games hosted at the park, and showed other needs that are yet to be met.
The planned scope includes: new field for soccer and baseball, with bleachers; replace the existing BMX with
a new one; build a new "street style" skate park; add a new section of trail with new pavement; resurface part
of the existing trail; add more parking spaces and provide ADA accessibility in the parking area; asphalt the
core pathways of the park, and improve the playground. The expected timeline is one year to complete,
although the requirement is three years. He showed the flexibility of the field layouts, ADA/general
accessibility, and noted that this would be an environmentally sound project.
PRAB members expressed their enthusiasm and congratulations regarding the project. There was also
discussion about surface water management at H J Carroll Park as codified in the Master Plan. Chair
Tollefson asked how the presentation at IAC was received. Matt Tyler said that there had been technical
questions, such as whether or not the budget was adequate. He said this was the only project funded in a
population zone as small as ours. Mr. Tollefson suggested that it would be well to maintain a slate of desired
projects in case there was extra 1AC funding available at the end of the cycle.
The PUD, under an.agreement with the County, was going to drill a scientific test well in that area, starting
May 2. He said they were going to drill down 600 feet, pull the core, and analyze the material. Various
scientists will participate in the analysis. One key question is whether there is a deep aquifer beneath the
bedrock. A pipe will be left in the ground but capped and covered over at the conclusion.
Introduction of Bob Rosen -- Judith Lucia also introduced the new Quilcene Community Center developer,
Bob Rosen to each of the PRAB members. He noted that an incremental make over of the building would
start soon. Funding is almost settled, and the Boeing Blue Birds will do most of the work.
IRONDALE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK REVITALIZATION PROJECT UPDATE
Matt reported that warning signs will be posted, to the effect " Playground — children present", and there will
be a stop sign at the exit point from the park. The internal road will be chip -sealed and graded. A service
project will take place on .tune 23; Matt will send notices to PRAB members beforehand. The community will
also be voting on a new name, either Irondale Community Park or Irondale Family Park or Irondale
Neighborhood Park. Once all the votes are tallied, the PRAB will have the opportunity to make a
recommendation to the BoCC. At a recent meeting held in the Park, attendance was about 30 people. Interest
is high and people seem to be galvanizing around park renewal. Other work there includes increasing
maintenance for the field and stepping up surveillance by the Sheriff's office.
Matt also briefed the PRAB on the idea and the RCW requirements for designating this park, and possibly all
County parks, as drug free zones. "Any public park can be designated as a drug free zone". The applicable
area can be up to 1000 feet around the park. Judith Lucia suggested that a vote be placed on the agenda for the
next meeting. Matt said he needed guidance on whether all parks should be included. There was discussion
about the implications for fire arms and alcohol as well. Matt Tyler said he would research the law to see if
fire arms and alcohol prohibitions are an integral part of the law. PRAB members noted that at certain parks,
like Lake Leland, enforcement would be virtually impossible. However, there was agreement that growing
neighborhood interest should be encouraged. Chair Tollefson asked Matt to research the options and the
implications for neighboring homes with regard to boundaries.
EQUESTRIAN FACILITY PROJECT/ PROCESS
Matt Tyler added this item to the agenda. He noted said he was seeking help and advice on his role with this
and other development projects. He said the expectations of groups such as the Equestrians and the OHV
proponents are almost limitless. He would like to identify and quantify the support that can be given, since he
and staff are paid County resources, with definite limits. How much can be given to special interest projects.
Judi Mackey noted that, in addition, such support can set up an expectation of endorsement of the project.
Chair Tollefson noted that there should be a balance of outreach and setting limits; both are needed. Special
interest groups should have a sense of empowerment and reasonable access to appropriate government
structures.
It was agreed that there should be a set of guidelines up front. Matt Tyler offered to do some research and find
policy models that may apply here. Judi Mackey noted that Chelan County had developed a
template/document for residents that listed what could be expected in terms of various services. Matt also
wished to define the role of the PRAB in similar matters. He said he would suggest a statement such as:
"Parks and Recreation cannot assume any more unfunded stewardship or maintenance responsibilities. The
goal is to protect the interests of the general public and to provide limited professional support that is
somehow quantified and accounted for."
He said that the Equestrian group had offered to present their project plan to the PRAB at the next meeting on
June 6. Chair Tollefson said it was important to know what the group wanted from the PRAB. is this
presentation simply for information purposes? Or is it intended to be a formal proposal, in which case, there
should be a public meeting. Matt Tyler said they would like to advertise a public meeting where they would
present a document that they are calling a Master Plan for the site. After obtaining input from the public and
PRAB, they would make changes based on the input and bring it back in August in order to send it on the
BoCC. Chair Tollefson said that the PRAB should receive advance materials in order to be prepared for the
hearing.
Judi Mackey suggested that perhaps there should be a work session with the BoCC to work out the role and
responsibilities of the PRAB. Mr. Tollefson said that the PRAB should meet with the BoCC at least once per
year in any case, in order to maintain a working relationship. Chair Tollefson said that any policy Matt may
develop would also be useful in other areas. With the ever expanding population, there is a shortage of
resources and it is never possible to fulfill all the expectations and needs. Other members noted that it is no
longer possible to stretch resources further in order to meet one more request or need.
Returning to the subject of the equestrian project, Matt Tyler suggested that the PRAB state its major concern
about resources and the necessity of having such a facility open to the public, after which the proposal should
go through the usual approval processes, i.e. through DCD and the BoCC. That is, the PRAB should state
clearly, "These are our concerns; how are you going to address them?" Chair Tollefson noted that there may
be many other groups that have needs. The challenge is to encourage citizen action and energy while not over
committing County resources or misleading these interest groups.
Matt noted that the PRAB does not need to resolve every land use issue. The hearings examiner will deal with
the re -zoning. DCD permitting will deal with what is appropriate to build and with neighbors' issues. It was
agreed that the role of the PRAB is to inform people of the process and to help them understand what is
realistic. Mr. Tollefson noted that many processes and achievement of goals, such as the skateboard park, take
persistence, cooperation and years of work. There was additional discussion of the history of the Larry Scott
Trail, as an example. Chair Tollefson also reviewed the major mission for Parks and Recreation, noting that
despite years of effort, there are still always gaps that remain to be filled.
Chair "Tollefson asked Mr. Tyler if the Equestrian group understood the complexity and the processes that
would need to be followed for them to make use of public land for their Equestrian Center. Ms. Mackey
repeated that a checklist from the County should be available. Judith Lucia noted that if the equestrians were
to follow the OFIV model, there were certain basic steps. First, working with the County, they would seek
grant funding, there would be public hearings. Mr. Tollefson interjected that seeking grant funding is not free,
that it requires money to seek money. He recalled his experience with the design process for the Quilcene
Community Center 15 years earlier as an example of inadequate understanding of process and unrealistic
expectations. He said the pressure for more and more public service would grow as the community continues
to expand. He advised Mr. Tyler to be clear with the public that resources are very limited.
There was agreement that usually professional services must be employed to plan major projects and apply for
grant funding. Matt Tyler suggested that the PRAB approach for the equestrian group would be: to hear their
proposal on June 6, to allow public comment, to identify issues and to state PRAB concerns. (It was noted
that the Board needs criteria in order to state concerns. Matt said that the Board could brainstorm and identify
that list of criteria before the June 6 meeting. He said he could also provide the current draft of the plan:) The
Equestrian group could then be asked to return in August with a completed Master Plan. If the Master Plan
addresses the issues and safeguards the PRAB interests, they could vote to support the plan or not, and make a
recommendation to the BoCC. The project would then need to follow its course through the system.
Judith Lucia asked who had paid for the original Master Plan. Matt Tyler noted that there had been
considerable history. The first plan was paid for by the County. He reviewed the purchase of the Ramage
property, the opposition to overnight facilities, and the subsequent switch to the property across Cape George
Road. "There was additional discussion about previous problematic examples and public/private
project/process models. Matt Tyler reviewed some of the provisions and performance standards that would be
written into the Master Plan. He listed, for example, "number of hours for public use versus hours reserved for
tournaments"; "requirements for advertising as a public facility, with appropriate signage on site"; and
"requirements for non -motorized multi -purpose use, such as walking or riding the trail".
The PRAB then agreed that Matt Tyler would provide copies of the plan document, invite the Equestrian
group to the June 6 meeting, and develop notes on the criteria. Chair Tollefson said he would ultimately like
to develop a handbook for PRAB members, i.e. how to handle public policy and process. He noted that other
public/private projects would arise in the future. Matt Tyler said that there are different roles the PRAB can
play, based on the Parks and Recreation Comprehensive Plan.
QUIMPI;R FOUNDATION -- Chair Tollefson asked if there had been any response from the Quimper
Foundation. Matt Tyler said that he had not yet heard from them, but would follow up. There was also
mention of the need to update the Parks and Recreation Comp Plan by October of 2008.
IRONDALE BEACH STUDY — Matt Tyler reported that the Department of Ecology is hiring a contractor to
do the initial pollution assessment study. The park is open but shell fishing is restricted. Chair Tollefson
asked about whether the DFW (Department of Fish and Wildlife) was still involved and whether or not more
materials would be removed. Matt said that he believed there was additional money for re -vegetation and to
monitor the geological changes.
YOUTI I REPRESENTATION — Judi Mackey conveyed her thoughts related to having youth representatives
sit on the board. She suggested that instead of permanent members, the PRAB could invite a student from
each of the three high schools to attend whenever the meeting is in their district. Her idea was to request the
participation of the student body president or their designee, with the approval of the school administration.
Additionally, all three could be invited to one meeting near the end of the school year. This would reduce the
amount of time required, reduce missed class time, and simplify the transportation for students. Matt Tyler
said he would follow up on that.
PARKS AND RECREATION 2006 ANNUAL REPORT PRESENTATION TO THE BOCC — Matt Tyler
reported that he had done the presentation for the BoCC two weeks previously, and that it had been well
received.
OTHER BUSINESS: Bob Anderson, visitor, asked about the intended location of the skateboard facilities,
and Matt pointed it out to him. Mr. Anderson also noted the success of recent basketball events; he said the
young people really enjoyed it, and that credit should be given to Matt Tyler. Matt recognized, also, the after
school program run by Joni Mahan and sponsored by UGN.
SET MEETING DATE/ADJOURNMENT
The next PRAB meeting will be held on Wednesday, June 6, 2007 at the Jefferson County Courthouse, Port
Townsend. (The July meeting is cancelled due to the July 4 holiday.)
The meeting was adjourned by Chair Rick Tollefson 1:30 PM.
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ADVISORY BOARD
AGENDA
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2007
12 noon to 2 p.m.
Quilcene Community Center
A. OPENING BUSINESS
i. Call to order
ii. Introductions
iii. Agenda
A. Additions or changes
B. Adoption
iv. Minutes
A. Additions or changes
B. Adoption
L', ROAD VACATION
i. Wastney
ii. Weidner
iii. Pearson
C. REGULAR / OLD BUSINESS
i. Youth Member Sends Regrets
ii. Community Park Grant Program
iii. HJ Carroll Park Presentation of Grant Project Scope
iv. Irondale Neighborhood Park Service Project Planned for June 9th
v. Irondale Neighborhood Park Naming Project Underway
D. NEW BUSINESS
i. Manager's Report
ii. Recreation Report
iii. Facility Report
E. ADDITIONAL BUSINESS AND CORRESPONDENCE
F. SET NEXT MEETING DATE/ ADJOURNMENT