HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:01:04 I might me to take it good. We got some.
09:01:12 so, if something happens, I need to step out.
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09:01:44 Yeah, okay, is there any running? Right? Okay? So good morning, everybody.
09:01:49 I'll call this October third, 2,022 meeting of the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners to order, as we do every Monday morning.
09:02:00 We'll start with public comment and people who have joined us online can use the raise hand button at the bottom of their zoom screen If they have something they would like,
if you have something you would like to make a comment about today, and I joined us on zoom use that button there on the
09:02:15 bottom of the screen. There's nobody in the room with us today, and I'm just gonna check
09:02:24 I'm going to check on nobody on the phone on zoom.
09:02:29 So raise hand button on the bottom. The zoom screen is our public common options.
09:02:33 Morning, and it looks like
09:02:41 I don't see her in the Oh, okay. And Tom Tears also raised his hand
09:02:53 Hmm. Seems like we got some extra. I'm trying to see if it's me
09:03:05 Okay.
09:03:09 Does somebody have AV and zoom running
09:03:14 We have a repeat it going here in the room. I don't Yeah.
09:03:24 just the hour. Okay, Cindy, you can.
09:03:30 You can unmute and turn your camera on or not, and you'll have 3Â min for public comment
09:03:38 good morning. Hi! Cindy! Jane, chair of the Jackson County Port Towns and Climate Action Committee, or CC.
09:03:48 you can unmute and turn your camera on or not.
09:03:37 Good morning.
09:03:51 you'll have 3Â min for public comment. Yes, good morning.
09:03:57 Good morning, Hi! Thank you, Jane. Chair of Johnson County Port Towns and climate Alright.
09:03:54 Yeah, do you have AV running in the background, Cindy.
09:04:04 Maybe yes, maybe that was me. That better? Okay, alright, thanks.
09:04:12 Starting over here. Good morning, Cindy. Jane. Share of the Justin County Port Thames and Climate Action Committee or CC.
09:04:19 Wanted to share some good news with you this morning, as you may recall in the last few years.
09:04:24 The Cec is updated, the greenhouse gas, inventory and modeled the top opportunities to reduce them.
09:04:30 Since transportation. Is a top source of admissions.
09:04:34 The 2 top strategies were increasing. Electric vehicles of all types, and also reducing vehicle.
09:04:39 Miles traveled, we created 2 working groups, one for each of these areas.
09:04:44 The Ev group, which includes representatives from the City Chamber, Pud Port, Egyptian Transit, Jefferson, Health Care, Local 2,020 the county and others have been collaborating
with various entities apply for watchdog grants related to evs we're happy to announce that
09:05:01 to these brands that we've participated in were successful.
09:05:04 One will install 4 DC. Fast charging stations at the Chamber, location on Sims way in partnership with science strategies.
09:05:12 Fourth eb Charging Solutions the city, port towns, and Jefferson Pudd, and the other will implement and Pilot an Ev.
09:05:20 Car share program that's focused on serving underserved and low to moderate income communities in partnership with Zeb Co-OP Fourth and others There'll be 2 locations in port
towns and each with an Ev and new kid charging station one will be at the chamber and the
09:05:36 other at Jefferson. Health, care, Another effort that came out of the Ev working group is that the Chamber is hosting an ev expo this coming Saturday from 10 to 3 at the Chamber
office and my representatives for both of these grants will be participating along with a number of other
09:05:52 organizations and including a variety of Ev. Cars, bikes, trucks, tractors, etc.
09:04:07 Yeah, yeah.
09:06:09 Exciting updates. Thank you, Cindy. Great looks like Tom.
09:06:15 Tears has joined us. If anyone is joined us on zoom this morning, and would like to make a public comment, you can use the raise hand.
09:06:23 Button at the bottom of your zoom screen and we'll bring you over for comments.
09:06:35 Good morning, Commissioners. Thank you. First. I I just wanted to let you know that the audio from your microphones is pretty low.
09:06:44 Volume, especially compared to the volume coming from people calling in from the outside, such as Cindy Jane.
09:06:53 Her Her volume was like twice as loud as your voice, so maybe there's something you can do to adjust the level of of stuff coming from from your chambers other than that I Just
i'm sorry for going out of c sequence.
09:07:07 Here, but I did want to comment on the upcoming discussion about the legal lots of record and the modifications that were made to that.
09:07:14 I think there's some really good changes that they introduced after the last discussion, and in particular, it looks like not every single lot in Jefferson County is going to
have to be reviewed for this process that's.
09:07:27 That's a relief specifically, you know. I think the only time that that it really needs to be done is when somebody is doing it.
09:07:36 Any kind of major building on their property, including obviously new construction.
09:07:41 But you know something that would expand the footprint of of the structure.
09:07:46 Other kinds of building permits, you know, like I have to put in a new roof, for I wanna swap out my propane tank or put in solar panels or that kind of stuff.
09:07:56 There's absolutely no reason to go through any kind of Dcd Review on that kind of thing.
09:08:00 So let's in fact, I'm just thinking that they're perhaps even putting a dollar threshold on the kinds of projects that need to go through this kind of process, because you're
talking about several $100 worth of additional Dcd: time.
09:08:17 So, if the new version or the what appears to be now final version of the ordinance, so makes provisions for that that that would be really welcome.
09:08:28 So again, sorry for going out of sequence, but I'm not going to be able to make a comment.
09:06:28 Mr. Tears. She'll have 3Â min when you unmute
09:08:35 Thank you for your comment. Is there anyone else who's joined us this morning on Zoom?
09:08:41 We'd like to make a public call this morning about any topic, whether it's on the agenda later or not, you're welcome to make a comment now.
09:08:51 I don't see any other hands going up, so I'll leave public comment open until 9, 30, as we do, and if somebody feels moved to make a public comment later in this next 20Â min,
just raise your hand and we'll bring you over in our next gap in our agenda so it looks like we
09:09:12 could consider consent. Agenda. You may be responses.
09:09:18 Oh, yeah, right, I don't have a lot to say, but we'll just say thank you so much to Cindy Jane and to all the folks working on these couple of grants, you know I I lose sleep
right now over the knowledge that there's going to be so much funding available for
09:09:39 projects for things that we really care about. But we're gonna have a really hard time having the capacity to even be able to get those grants.
09:09:47 And so just really appreciating that the Climate Action Committee is so proactive and taking these on working with community groups and kind of collectively creating the capacity
to be able to implement these with a lot of strong partners, So Thank you we need more of this we need to figure out, how we can
09:10:04 enable other groups to be for partnering with us on these funding opportunities.
09:10:11 So this is a great example. I love the car share for low to moderate income.
09:10:16 Folks no, but it. It's interesting. The more I have studied the Inflation Reduction Act the more and true bipartisan infrastructure Law, too.
09:10:26 The equity components of those bills are really strong, And again, we have to be well positioned to to go after those funds.
09:10:34 And no, we we care about equity. And so just, just, really perfect example of an effective community group working with government partners to pull something off that is much
needed.
09:10:49 I happen to have an electric vehicle, and the thought of having DC.
09:10:54 Fast chargers in Port Townsend is almost unimaginable.
09:10:58 but I think going to be a huge asset to to locals and visitors alike.
09:11:05 I'm really sorry that I won't be at the Eb expo. I would be torn whether to bring my electric car, my electric bike, I think my bike almost has more miles on it than my car
done and under my ownership but great idea I would love to geek
09:11:19 out, and be able to, you know. Write other people's zebi bikes and so I'm really sorry to miss it.
09:11:24 I will be out of town with work at a Public health Conference and Minnesota so sorry to miss that Mr.
09:11:32 Tears, Thank you for your comments and I'm wondering if if kind of eating our microphones will help today.
09:11:41 So I think we were just really conscious about being sure we have the microphone very close, hoping that will help but feel free to drop an email and let me know.
09:11:48 Tom, if this is any better Okay, I think that's all.
09:11:55 not a lot to add. I will also try to eat the microphone.
09:11:59 yeah, great news from the Climate Action Committee and Cindy Jane, Thank you for sharing with us and all the hard work.
09:12:05 As Commissioner Dean highlighted it, you know. It takes lots of different organizations on.
09:12:09 It's really it's great to have our first fast term stations.
09:12:13 Our first Ev car share I'm gonna be out of town Friday as well when I'm gonna be back on Saturday and try to bring my ev car down to the to the Chamber to to celebrate and and
learn with everyone else too, so really exciting opportunity and great great development.
09:12:29 You know it's using those dollars that are out there.
09:12:32 As Kate was saying, and regarding the you know, dollar threshold problem for legal lots of record what we'll be talking about this a little bit more.
09:12:41 But I'm really happy with a lot of the adjustments made specifically talking about some of those you know in house.
09:12:49 Non non footprint changing premise are already explicitly excopated from the need for legal lots of record is and also a lot more houses and and properties are automatically
legal lots of record which I think is is gonna be give a lot more certainty.
09:13:06 To people so appreciate the the, the input, And we'll make sure to bring it up.
09:13:11 As we discussed this yet again today. So thank you.
09:13:17 Good morning. Come on in. If some folks joining us in the room here, and I also have moved My!
09:13:24 I'm eating my mic as well. Hopefully, This is gonna help with the audio problems we are experiencing earlier.
09:13:33 Yep. I long for an electric vehicle, but I'm still driving my ancient Honda civic, knowing that buying a new car or a a newer car for me would probably not be the climate friendly
thing to do i'm gonna keep driving my beer and she gets good really
09:13:48 good gas mileage so, and I will just keep being envious of everyone's fantastic electric vehicles, although I do love my electric bike.
09:14:00 So and I got to write it all over this weekend, which was awesome in terms of Mr.
09:14:06 Tisha's comments on legal a lot of record.
09:14:10 I am grateful that we slow things down a bit, and took another look and and back to the drawing board a bit, and made some improvements to that.
09:14:19 I'll be interested in the conversation this afternoon or later this morning.
09:14:23 Whenever we get to it. For kind of considering the final version of this second at 11.
09:14:32 So And I appreciate folks showing up this morning, and would like to make another call out for public comment.
09:14:42 if you're in the room with us, and would like to make a public comment you're welcome to do that, And then if anyone on online would like to make a comment, you can use the
raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen and we'll bring you over so what either of you in the room, with us like to
09:15:00 make a comment.
09:15:06 Okay, great. So we have a number of proclamations to consider.
09:15:10 after consent, that we have folks who joined us in the room, which is wonderful.
09:15:18 Okay, want to consider consent, agenda, anything that anyone wants to call out on consent.
09:15:24 Okay, sure, yeah, just because public works is so swamped with a number of big projects, they're not able to join us today to talk about the consent item related to the grants
for the Sewer project.
09:15:42 but this is huge and the progress we're making on the sewer right now is, I mean, especially without extra staff, you you know largely.
09:15:52 This is you're Monty is serving as project manager, and desperately need to get some more staff into to help them.
09:15:59 But we're moving along really quickly on the sewer project.
09:16:03 this Grant that they'll be applying for We've been talking about this for years about like that.
09:16:11 This ecology funding would be like the the best kind of last money in like, we will apply for that when we when we know that that's like.
09:16:17 The last time I needed. And here we are. We're doing it, But the amount of work to even get to the point of putting in that application is enormous.
09:16:25 so just wanna say that very, very grateful of that work is getting done.
09:16:31 Very grateful that this project is really well suited to get this funding.
09:16:37 Feel very optimistic about it at a meeting with the EPA recently, somebody somebody with the EPA said used to be that we could give out about one in 20 grants that are applied
for we anticipate giving out one, in 2 Yeah, so just really glad that we're at a shovel
09:16:53 ready point, be able to get this application in and because there's more money or fewer sewers, no so much money just yeah, and and not really enough projects, You know that
are this is what you have to be at 60 80% design for this Yeah, it's a high, threshold.
09:17:12 So yeah, we're just lucky to be in a position that we are.
09:17:16 We're there. So really just great to see that we've been talking about this for years, and saying we're not ready We're not. Ready.
09:17:22 We're not ready. And all of a sudden we're ready, really exciting and great, to see continuity and and some of our advisory boards, and then North Pacific Coast marine resources
with Jill silver and Vern Bessie with the with the parks, and Wreck so great
09:17:37 to have committed volunteers, continuing to to serve the county
09:17:43 I'm excited to see the community wildfire planning b and Teed up here with a grant application and grateful to Mark for taking a leadership role or being the leader on getting
strategic planning and community wildfire planning, both out for consideration by consultants to work with
09:18:05 us, so really excited about both of those processes that were in the in the midst of considering consultants for yeah and a hat tip to Michael Mark or Yeah, Grant Administrator
this is his work.
09:18:17 Very impressive work. He and enlisted the help of folks in Dnr. In putting the grand application together. It's got all kinds, of links to supportive data, and we're very optimistic
that will get approval.
09:18:36 On this great Hmm! Well, I'm happy to move that we approve an adopt consense agenda as presented one seconds, all in favor bye not a post passes unanimously.
09:18:50 Okay, Well, we have good time left in our morning session.
09:18:55 We can consider some of these proclamations and I think we're starting off with I don't have Anna there yet.
09:19:06 She might be expecting 9, 30, I think. Yeah, Okay, is there anyone who with us who's decided they would like to make public comment this morning?
09:19:19 If so, you can use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen
09:19:27 Hmm, hmm! And I'm not seeing any other hands go up.
09:19:35 okay.
09:19:38 Well, I see Pete Brahmall is there on the attendee West, and he they could do the proclamation.
09:19:51 East Jefferson fire and rescue 100 and fiftieth anniversary proclamation.
09:20:01 Okay, I have to open it up. Juggling screens right now.
09:20:10 And can you bring Okay, Great.
09:20:17 Good morning, Assistant Chief Ramall. Nice to Nice to see you.
09:20:20 Good morning. How are all of you
09:20:22 Good nice to see you this morning
09:20:25 Good to see you, too, thanks to zoom to help out with the schedule.
09:20:28 Yeah, yeah.
09:20:30 Lots Lots of things happen.
09:20:31 Oh, soon, super exciting benchmark! We have to recognize here this morning, and we look forward to joining you guys next week for the full blown in person.
09:20:43 Party
09:20:47 Okay, So who wants to kick off this proclamation?
09:20:53 And you want to start. I could start proclamation East Jefferson, Fire and rescue 100 and fiftieth anniversary, Whereas Jefferson County fire protection, district one also known
as East Jefferson Fire Rescue serves the City, of Port Townsend and surrounding Jefferson County.
09:21:09 areas with fire and Ems protection; and whereas one year after the great Chicago fire of 1,871 port towns, and employed the first firefighters in Jefferson county, in 1,872
and Whereas east, Jefferson fire and rescue
09:21:24 carries the legacy of the fire service, and Judgeson County to include Fire District 6 of Cape George Jefferson County Fire district, one of Timicum and the city of port towns
and Fire Department and whereas the East Jefferson, fire Rescue has been in operation for 150 years with a
09:21:42 varying mission that has evolved to a multi-hazard organization, responding to fires, emergency medical events, marine emergencies, auto accidents, and hazard materials emergencies,
and whereas East Jefferson fire and rescue recognizes the value of connection to
09:21:58 our community, through the dedicated career and volunteer members of the organization.
09:22:03 Now, therefore, the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners does hereby recognize October the eighth, 2,022, as the East Jefferson fire and rescue 100, and fiftieth Anniversary
in Jefferson County and encourages all residents to join us in
09:22:17 celebration of this dynamic community, asset and historical site and observation of this important day proclaim this third day of October, 22 I'll move that we approved the
proclamation regarding proclaiming October eighth 20
09:22:31 22 the East Jefferson fire and rescue 100 and fiftieth and A.
09:22:35 And I'll seconds all in favor. Bye, Bye passes unanimously.
09:20:41 Yes, that's correct. Yup: Yup: yeah.
09:22:45 just a deep appreciation for the county Commissioners and the community for supporting the fire department I've been here going on 5 years now, and I had no idea that we were
this this.
09:23:00 Old and this historical and just in context, to let you know that the fire Department of New York was established in 1865 Seattle 1889 in Chicago, obviously with Mrs.
09:23:11 O'leary's cow kicking over the they can to start the great Chicago fire, 1871.
09:23:18 We're we're proud of our personnel.
09:23:21 And again for the support of the community, and we look forward to.
09:23:24 I can't say I'm gonna be around for another 150 years, but certainly we are a dynamic organization, and we do have a vested interest in serving the community and really appreciate
the support of the county Commissioners.
09:23:39 the city personnel and all the communities that we serve in the county.
09:22:41 Anything you wanna bring to our attention this morning.
09:23:46 Thank you so much for joining us joining us this morning, and we're proud of you as well.
09:23:52 You know where every time I hear the sirens, I Roll over, and if I'm sleeping at night, or look out the window if I'm near a window, and just think about the service you're
providing our community it's it's something that we sometimes take for granted But it's
09:24:08 never last on me that you're putting your lives on the line every day.
09:23:44 Thank you.
09:24:15 Thank you. Appreciate it.
09:24:21 yeah, this Saturday. We're going to be down by Pope Marine Park, and basically between Pope Marine Park and Memorial Field we'll have a section of Washington street closed off
for some demonstrations.
09:24:34 So vehicle de extrication, demonstrations, vintage, fire apparatus, as well as Our current. Apparatus fleet.
09:24:42 We're gonna have a a fireboat demonstration down on the water, and some hopefully, if we can coordinate some rope rescue demonstrations as well, including some fun, and games,
some some waterball, competitions apparently between neighboring fire districts and fire departments from cloud
09:25:04 county, and should be a wonderful time. Obviously a lot of public education, materials and interaction with the public.
09:24:14 So we really appreciate your service. Do you want to outline a little bit What's happening this Saturday?
09:25:13 So come on down roughly from 9 o'clock till 4 o'clock, and hopefully this wonderful weather folds for one more weekend, and I look forward to seeing everybody down there
09:25:26 Hmm: Great. Thank you. Yeah, 150 years. That's that's a lot of service I've heard.
09:25:32 There's gonna be quite a retrospective in the newspaper.
09:25:36 The leader this week, so we should all take a look for it.
09:25:31 That's quite unique.
09:25:39 Sounds like pretty comprehensive, looking at the last 150 years.
09:25:39 Yes.
09:25:41 So I I look forward to reading that I'm curious So I grew up in Chicago, and, like the pacifier is a huge part of our kind of identity.
09:25:48 There? Did everybody grow up singing the the song about Mrs. O'leary?
09:25:53 Or is that only a Chicago thing, Irish, and as well?
09:25:55 I've heard it. I could sing it out It only has a few bars, luckily.
09:25:46 Yup
09:26:03 I think we have time
09:26:03 But I'll spare you. Maybe maybe. So appreciate the work that you do, and I.
09:26:16 I live in a neighborhood with a number of elderly folks, and we we see a lot of East Jefferson fire rescue and just the the professionalism with which all of you approach the
work, and the dignity with which you treat people is So appreciated.
09:26:08 Here you go, front and center on Saturday
09:26:31 You're welcome. Thank you very much.
09:26:31 So thank you. And I did just check the weather forecast, It looks like we're all clear on Saturday, and a hive 16, so it won't be too hot.
09:26:37 Great, alright.
09:26:43 Super yep
09:26:40 But warm enough for that water ball. Fight. But we sure need rain Thank you for being with us this morning.
09:26:50 Great to see you. Thank you. Okay, Looks like Anna's with us, so we can jump back to the top top of our list of proclamations.
09:27:02 and do our proclamation for the month of October.
09:27:04 As national disability, employment, month.
09:27:11 Here she comes!
09:27:16 Good morning, Anna.
09:27:19 Good morning. Good morning, everyone. Nice to be here. Thank you.
09:27:27 Yeah, well, I think that I'll go ahead and wait until after.
09:27:34 And I think that Commissioner Brotherton is also going to read a list of our local employers into the record.
09:27:23 Do you wanna talk about this proclamation before we read it, or after
09:27:41 So yeah, I think it really the proclamation and the employers really sums up that that we are a community that really is a diverse and equitable and inclusive community.
09:27:58 And I'm just really appreciative of the employers and all the people that with disabilities that are working in our community as well as the support.
09:27:41 Great
09:28:08 Great. Does anyone want to start reading this one, or I'm I'm happy to.
09:28:15 How about? I'm always in trying to be in service to my colleagues, but I'm gonna take the start of this one.
09:28:22 So this proclamation is for national disability, employment month, whereas the purpose of national disability, employment, employment, awareness month, is to educate the community
about disability employment issues celebrate the many and varied contributions of Jefferson county's employees who experience intellectual or development
09:28:41 is developmental disabilities and other disabilities; and whereas the Us.
09:28:48 Department of Labor chose this year's theme for the national disability, employment awareness, month as disability, part of the equity equation.
09:28:56 And whereas disabilities, including sensory, physical, mental, and cognitive disabilities, no, no boundaries, and affect people of all races, religions, ages, cultures, economic
groups and educational levels and individuals, with disabilities, represent 12.9% of the Washington state, population or one out of 8 individuals, experience a disability.
09:29:18 and whereas Washingtonians who experience disabilities only represent 6% of the States approximately, approximately 3 point, 4 million labor force of working age individuals.
09:29:31 But per, but for persons without a disability, 94% are employed, and whereas nationally only 19 point.
09:29:41 1% of persons who experience disabilities are employed, but for persons without a disability.
09:29:45 63 point, 7% are employed, and whereas local businesses who welcome the workforce talents of individuals who experience intellectual or developmental disabilities are critical
to building an inclusive and robust economy, and whereas Jefferson county supports the goals, of diversity equity
09:30:03 inclusion, access, economic self sufficiency and work is a fundamental part of identity, and offers purpose and the opportunity to lead an independent, self directed life.
09:30:14 For all people, including individuals who experience intellectual developmental disabilities, and whereas the values and diversity of the people of Jefferson County have made
this county a leader throughout the State.
09:30:25 Of Washington, in business and in employment, opportunities for individuals who have experienced intellectual and developmental disabilities, And now, therefore, the Jefferson
County Commissioners hereby proclaim October the Twentieth 22 as national disability employment month in addition We urge all Citizens to
09:30:43 join in observing this occasion by recognizing the talents of all people, including people who experience intellectual developmental disabilities as a critical part of our efforts
to build an inclusive community, and a strong and diverse economy.
09:30:56 Proclaimed this third day of October, 2022
09:31:02 Right. I'm I'm happy to move that we approve the proclamation proclaiming October the twentieth, 22 as national disability employment month.
09:31:09 I have a second all in favor. Bye, bye, and you're gonna read a list of employers I have a Yes, I think that would be a good thing to do here.
09:31:20 So as a member of the Jefferson County Intellectual Developmental disabilities, Advisory Board, and on behalf of the Board, the Jefferson County Dd.
09:31:27 Program individuals who experience intellectual developmental disabilities and the supported employment provider, cascade, community connections I'd like to recognize the following
businesses for employing people who experience intellectual developmental disabilities and intellectual or developmental disabilities so the
09:31:45 chimicum, school district, cascade, Community Connections.
09:31:50 Fin River Cideri First Presbyterian Church Fort Warden Housekeeping Gathering Place Henry Hardware
09:32:00 Pizza, factory, chimicum, farmstand, Jefferson County, Y.M.C.A.
09:32:06 Jefferson, Health care, the life care center Mcdonald's The Bishop Hotel Recycle Crew Safe Way Sunrise Coffee Subway Scoop and Laundry A/C I Boats West Side Maritime Community
Unit United Methodist Church Qfc.
09:32:29 And Good will. So to all of these organizations, thank you for being leaders in your community by welcoming the workforce talents of individuals with intellectual and or developmental
disabilities, you are indispensable to building an inclusive community and robust economy, and and further I think one
09:32:46 mental health was first defined by Freud. I think it was really just the ability to work and pursue happiness and facilitating these folks.
09:32:59 Ability to work is really critical for our community. So thank you.
09:33:02 To these organizations, and and you know it's part of the equity equation.
09:33:10 No, I think you summed it up nicely. Thank you so much.
09:33:13 I I'm just grateful. We live in a a wonderful community.
09:33:16 That's very welcoming and inclusive, and gives access to a lot of people with disabilities in the workforce.
09:33:07 I think, Anna, were you gonna say a few words
09:33:27 Thanks for being with us this morning, Anna. Such wonderful and important work, and I'm so pleased when I'm out in the community and see folks employed that I know are are in
this program, and just think very highly of of those of you doing the work and also the employers who
09:33:24 And we're grateful for that. So thank you.
09:33:48 you know I'm I'm sure it's there's some effort involved, and but it just provides such dignity to folks.
09:33:55 Yeah, Thank you for your work, Anna: Okay, So I'm gonna do the housekeeping bit of closing public comment.
09:34:05 Didn't see any other hands go up, and I am going to ask our friends from Nammy to join us.
09:34:11 I don't know if Patrick is joining us online this morning.
09:34:17 Okay, okay. So we have a third proclamation this week, and we are going to consider a proclamation proclaiming the week of October the second to the eighth as mental illness
awareness week and we are joined this morning by a number of our friends with
09:34:39 Nami, the National alliance of mental illness, illness.
09:34:42 And do you guys want to tee this proclamation off, or would you like to speak after we read the Okay?
09:34:52 Would someone like, to kick this one off, whereas mental health?
09:34:59 Oh, I'm sorry. Mental health, a proclamation for mental illness, Awareness week.
09:35:03 Whereas mental health is part of overall health; and where whereas one in 5 adults experiences a mental health problem in any given year, and whereas one in 6 us youth aged
6 to 17 experience a mental health disorder each year, and whereas approximately, one, half of chronic mental
09:35:23 illness begins by the age of 14 and 3 quarters by age, 24, and whereas suicide is the tenth leading cause of death, in the United States, and the second leading cause among
young adults and 90; percent of the people who die by suicide had shown symptoms of a mental health
09:35:40 condition, according to interviews with family, friends, and medical professionals, and
09:35:47 Okay? Sorry. And where has long delays, Sometimes decades often occur between the time symptoms first appear, and when individuals get help, and whereas early identification
and treatment can make a difference in successful management of mental illness and recovery, and whereas it is important, to maintain mental health and learn the symptoms
09:36:08 of mental illness in order to get help when it isn't needed.
09:36:12 And whereas every citizen and community can make a difference in helping end the and stigma that for too long has surrounded mental illness and discouraged people from getting,
help, and whereas public education and civic activities can encourage mental health and help improve the lives of individuals and families affected by mental
09:36:31 illness. Now, therefore, be it resolved, the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners, on behalf of the citizens of Jefferson County, dear who dear do hereby proclaim October
second, to the eighth 2,022 Nash mental illness, awareness, week Jefferson county Washington to
09:36:48 shine the light on mental illness, and fight stigma per support, educate the public, and advocate for equal care, proclaim this third day of October 22 I will move to approve
the proclamation as red second all in favor hi passes
09:37:08 unanimously so. With that I would love to invite our friends from Nami to come up and make some comments about this important recognition of this week. Thank you.
09:37:21 Now, and when you speak, if you could really kind of eat the microphone up here, it is very helpful for folks to be able to hear us
09:37:33 So. Thank you. Commissioners and Administrator Macaulay, for having us this morning.
09:37:39 We're joined by a couple of other board members this morning. Sidney Keegan, who has been a member of now me and on the board way longer than I have, and Craig Uchita who comes
all the way from Quillsene who is also, a board member and I know I don't think
09:37:58 Patrick had the opportunity to get on zoom to be here today, but he sense his thank yous to you.
09:38:06 So we want to thank you. For this proclamation today.
09:38:10 During mental illness, awareness week, and I want to stop and just kinda piggyback on the last proclamation, because it it became very clear to all of us that there are many
people with disabilities in the community and that includes people with mental health diagnosis many of those people are on
09:38:34 disability, and many of them are working in the community. I dare say you work with some, and don't know it for a couple of reasons.
09:38:45 The main reason is that it's not clearly obvious when you look at a person that they have a mental illness, disability.
09:38:55 And the second reason is that the stigma prevents them from talking about it.
09:39:01 So you may not know it; and if one in 5 people in this country, and I'm sure it's true all over the world have a diagnosis, Mental illness that means a couple of us in this
room and who knows how many in this very building so I am so glad that you had
09:39:26 a chance this morning to see how the community is so inclusive with people, with disabilities.
09:39:32 But that does include people with mental illness. So the last time we were here in person was BC.
09:39:41 that's before Covid. And ironically Covid has brought to the 4 some of the importance of paying attention to mental health issues.
09:39:54 The stressors over the last few years surrounding Covid have made it clear to mental health in the entire community that it can be easily threatened by one single circumstance.
09:40:07 Our mental health can be threatened by one circumstance like that, and we saw and are still seen, that even our school children are impacted by the strain of trying.
09:40:19 To learn and grow on zoom like all the us are doing and losing contact with peers over a couple of years, and the threat of serious illness and even death within their families,
so mental health affects every sector of the community now the last few years have pre presented a challenge for nami
09:40:44 just like it has for you. I mean, we have become experts in technology using zoom.
09:40:52 And now the hybrid meetings, and we've also been fortunate Nammy has been fortunate to find a new home.
09:41:01 We are operating out of the Recovery Cafe, which is a tremendous addition to our community.
09:41:10 If you haven't had a chance to go down and look around and see what's happening there.
09:41:15 You really need to. And so we offer our our support groups and our workshops there, as well as doing our board meetings and last December we started going hybrid.
09:41:28 That is, we went from total zoom to meeting in person and on zoom at the same time, which is always a challenge, as you well know so you can see more information about that
in the packets that I just handed you there is a small card.
09:41:45 That tells about the support groups that we offer at recovery cafe and on zoom.
09:41:51 There is also a flyer with both of our major workshops, which is one is mental health, basics and communication skills, and the other one is the suicide prevention intervention
workshop which we just offered by the way, We presented that workshop in Olympia.
09:42:14 At the Nammy Washington Conference last month, which was suicide, prevention, and intervention, awareness month.
09:42:24 Sometimes we have weeks, sometimes we have months. So those workshops are offered around the community.
09:42:31 The last 2 that we did. We're in fact, in person.
09:42:35 At the Recovery cafe. So our thanks to you for a and but not just our commissioners, but all of you who work in the county for your work with the Behavioral Health Court, your
work with our new navigator which I have to tell you is a great addition to the Community I think this year.
09:43:00 we're going to be getting some testimonials from people who have been able to work with our.
09:43:06 We have 2 navigators, one in this city and one in the county, so we can see the value of that position.
09:43:15 And thank you for your work on the boards and committees that deal with behavioral health issues in the community.
09:43:23 So we want to thank you for your work all yearly, but especially for this proclamation, for mental illness, Awareness week.
09:43:34 Thank you so much. Thank you. Likewise. Thank you, guys, for all of your work.
09:43:40 I know you do this as Volunteers and Service board members, and we really appreciate the leadership that you provide on this critical issue in the community.
09:43:49 I mean, I can't imagine our community without mammy.
09:43:54 I can't, either. I when I first was retired I went to work for habitat, because I really wanted to contribute something, and then my daughter was diagnosed by polar one and
even though I and my husband who are Mike here who should be on the board, might as well be on the board
09:44:17 he and I both have multiple college degrees, and we were not prepared, for that diagnosis, so that changed at least my focus.
09:44:27 I know Mark is Mike has been drug along with me on that, but you cannot help but learn more and get involved, and when it becomes a part of your family, it's there for the duration
I think all of us have been touched by that, and in some ways sometimes many ways in our own families and
09:44:52 yeah, talking about it, I think, is really important. I think it is a culture here at the county.
09:44:57 We try to to have that be something that is addressed, and that we're not ashamed of.
09:45:03 And yeah, I am curious. So you say in the proclamation here, that one in 6 us youth, experience mental illness, and in my experience with a lot of teenagers in and out of my
household it sure seems a lot higher these days Well, we think it's higher and the thing that
09:45:19 we're concerned about now is the statistics for suicide.
09:45:28 Nationally our 13 or 100,000. The statistics for suicide in Jefferson County, are 42 for 100,000 No, no, we don't have a 100,000 people in the county that's extremely. High.
09:45:47 So that is one of the reasons that we work very hard with our suicide, prevention, intervention workshop, because it's a serious issue.
09:45:58 one. Suicide is 1, 2, many.
09:46:03 I'm overjoyed to see the the partnership with Recovery cafe, and and giving that brick and mortar aspect.
09:46:10 An army is great, so really appreciate that synergy I wanted. Do they have?
09:46:13 Do you have like family programs for youth at there as well?
09:46:18 Or is it mostly adults served at the recovery It's it's adults have to be 18, although we've had some 16 year olds walk in before with parents or grandparents, and you know,
We spent some time with them but our program won't allow us to work with under
09:46:32 18 year olds Gotcha, but we have a family to family class that we teach, that is 8 weeks long.
09:46:40 8 Saturdays, and we help family members, parents of younger ones and parents of adult loved ones, were affected by mental illness.
09:46:53 Where we teach a lot about how to deal with the legal system, law enforcement, the court system medications and dealing with the health care system with a medical issue is one
thing, but dealing with the help, the mental health care system is an entirely different picture Oh, it takes some learning.
09:47:17 believe me, and you have to have your own agency now, so you've got to have agency in the system, or it just it runs rough shut up.
09:47:23 so thank you for that and thank you for your work on on stigma as well.
09:47:26 You know, being able to talk about it is the first, the first thing.
09:47:30 So. Thank you. Thank you. We're gonna transition right over.
09:47:40 We might already be streaming on Kpd Z. Right now, so we might have a large had a lot much larger audience for that last bit of that discussion about mental illness.
09:47:51 awareness week in our community. And so we're joined now by Dr.
09:47:56 Barry and let's see, Willie. I see Willie had a question this week, and there he is.
09:48:09 morning, everyone glad to listen in for the last part of that presentation I think it's a really critical issue that's been facing our area since before the pandemic and certainly
exacerbated by some of the challenges related to pandemic so i'm glad
09:48:23 we're talking about it openly So, moving into the Covid 19 Update: on the Covid 19 front, The story is a bit mixed nationally at this point nationwide case rates are continuing
to downfront 25% in the last week and hospitalizations down 12%
09:48:42 and deaths down 10%, but still seeing over 400 people just over 400 people dying a day in the United States as a whole.
09:48:51 However, we're starting to see case rates increasing in the northeast and the West Coast, including Washington State in Washington State case rates are up.
09:49:00 11% hospitalizations are actually up 9% deaths are relatively flat at this point.
09:49:07 We think the primary driver of the hospitalization rise is.
09:49:10 There are several large long-term care facility outbreaks on the east side of the State, where where vaccination is less common, even in elders.
09:49:19 And so that's driving a lot of severe disease in that population, which does affect the State as a whole, because we all share one hospital system.
09:49:26 So that's that's affecting the situation here in Jefferson County we have diagnosed 5,961 cases of Covid 19 Our case rate is up to 460 per 100,000 Our percent positivity, is
up as Well, to 11%.
09:49:45 With approximately a 40% case ascertainment rate.
09:49:47 At this time we have no one currently hospitalized for COVID-19 for a total of 152 hospitalizations.
09:49:55 In this response and no new desk to report for a total of 31 deaths.
09:49:59 In this the primary driver of our rise.
09:50:02 In cases in recent weeks has been school-related transmission.
09:50:07 We have several small outbreaks in schools. We're working very closely with the schools to mitigate those, but that is certainly a driver of transmission at this point We do
strongly recommend masking in school settings it's not mandatory.
09:50:18 Unless it is in a space where we have had a cluster of Kovat. 19 cases.
09:50:24 In those cases it does become mandatory In Columb County we've diagnosed 15,577 cases of Covid 19 Our case rate is 153 per 100,000 in column county with a percent positivity,
of 7.5 and roughly a 50% case.
09:50:42 ascertainment rate. We also have no one currently hospitalized for Covid 19 and column for a total of 442 hospitalizations and no new deaths.
09:50:51 To report for a total of 124 So what we are starting to see is arise in cases, but so far, thankfully, not around in severe disease.
09:51:00 We're not seeing a rise in hospitalization or death, in either of our counties, and we think the primary driver, for that is how well vaccinated our counties are.
09:51:09 So The vaccines are still doing a great job preventing severe disease and death.
09:51:13 And we're very hopeful that the omicron-specific booster will actually prevent transmission itself.
09:51:18 But it's relatively new on the scene, and not everyone has had a chance to get it yet.
09:51:22 unfortunately nationally and in other parts of our State there's a lot less access And so we are seeing a rise in severe disease related to the move into the fall in winter,
so that really just so to show that Covid 19 is still a significant severe disease, if you are not up to date on, your
09:51:39 vaccine. So please do get up to date, and your vaccines, if you haven't already.
09:51:43 That includes getting the omicron-specific booster.
09:51:46 If you are eligible, and a reminder that everyone 12 and up who's had their last vaccine or infection 2 months, a go or more is eligible for the onlooker-specific booster, and
we do have enough in town now so you don't have to
09:51:58 wait, If you're worried that you are, that you're not in one of those severe groups, you are eligible now, A lot of our pharmacies are vaccinating very effectively, including
an especially tri, area pharmacy is Really, doing a lot safely in port towns.
09:52:13 Is doing a lot as well, and I also want to acknowledge our partners at Jackson Healthcare are working really hard to vaccinate their patients as well.
09:52:21 And, of course, our public health and deem volunteers who are working very hard at our mass vaccination clinics every weekend this month to make sure that our highest risk individuals
are vaccinated on the Mtv front we Still, have no documented cases in Jefferson county.
09:52:36 We have one confirmed, and 2 suspect cases in Calam County, diagnosed 580.
09:52:43 One cases have been diagnosed in Washington as a whole, and over 25,000 nationally we do have adequate supplies.
09:52:50 The genius vaccine. So if you're interested in that vaccine which includes anyone who's gay bisexual or men who have sex with men, particularly gay men for bisexual men are
eligible for that anyone who has had an sem last year, or who has had multiple
09:53:05 partners. In the last year is eligible for the vaccine, and a good reminder that for for many folks who are dating right now, multiple partners is pretty common at over the
course of a year, and so it doesn't take a lot to get eligible for the genius facts if you're interested in that
09:48:03 So yeah, good morning, Dr. Barry.
09:53:31 Any questions for Dr. Barry. I have a couple of questions, but a lot of them are addressed in the Kptz question. So.
09:53:22 give us a call at the health department. We'll go ahead and get you vaccinated. But with that I am happy to take any questions from our commissioners.
09:53:39 Okay.
09:53:38 Maybe I would. I'd wait until app questions nothing for me.
09:53:41 Sounds good
09:53:43 The only thing I was wondering when we need to start coordinating on this is kind of the end of the emergency declaration and the end of the month, and changing your if if we're
going to change your the schedule of your updates we probably should start planning for that maybe you guys
09:54:06 Sure. Yeah, So there are our big changes coming with the end of the emergency declaration.
09:54:10 One of the biggest is around funding. So funding for all of our activities around Covid is really dramatically decreasing.
09:54:18 After the end of that that declaration, and that affects the work that we're able to do as a department One of the things that changes around that is actually my my hours that
are budgeted.
09:54:31 For by the county. So I go down to 12Â h a week for the county.
09:54:37 one of the things that we talked about in that was potentially changing the cadence of this update.
09:54:41 I think it is still really important to you. Keep public health front and center, and acknowledge that code is not over, and we're still here, and there's still lots of questions
in the community, but potentially going to a a monthly cadence might make a little more sense, as we move
09:54:55 out of the emergency declaration. So one of the things we've been talking about a bit is after October.
09:53:58 already are in other forms. And I I'm just not sitting at those tables so
09:55:13 Just think of all the air time that's gonna free up for Bob Marley Question: Do we want to try to fill that space with other updates?
09:55:02 The 30 first moving to once a month, having a public health presence. At this meeting the folks could still tune in and and follow along and have their questions answers
09:55:24 right? Yeah, So I think I just wanted to get the topic on the table, because it's the beginning of October, and we have a few more meetings where we can talk about this but
it.
09:55:36 You know I I I know that a vast number of people in our community are gonna miss these weekly updates.
09:55:43 And my mom being one of them, she's probably listening right now, but I I'm actually have never been a commissioner without these weekly updates, so I don't really know no how
to navigate this transition.
09:55:58 Best. But I just wanna say that I really appreciate that consistency and and regular cadence that we have had.
09:56:09 You guys, with us and addressing all the questions that come up in our community.
09:56:13 And I know that we've come to rely on you.
09:55:25 Right.
09:56:27 Yeah, I think it's good to prep for. And I think in my my recommendation would be to keep up keep some kind of steady presence, but maybe just not as frequently.
09:56:38 I think there will always be public health issues to talk about.
09:56:43 we'll have Covid. But there there are other things that we're always working on, that We could answer questions about, too.
09:56:48 So I find when we've had to scale back other meetings, and we've gone to every 2 weeks that gets very confusing.
09:56:16 probably inordinately so, but I just wanna start having the conversation, so that we're not pulling the Bandaid off and unexpected
09:56:59 yeah, that sounds good. Okay, that was my only topic for today.
09:57:05 So I guess we can turn to the list of Kptz questions.
09:56:54 But monthly is something people can track, so they can plan to tune in for that
09:57:10 Sure.
09:57:15 The one was was about kind of timing of the the bivalent or the omicron-specific booster.
09:57:22 So this person says: for 2 healthy individuals, aged 67 and 75.
09:57:27 When should they get their booster? And so, if you're healthy, you don't have underlying conditions, you're not immunosuppressed or undergoing cancer therapy.
09:57:37 you're gonna get your best bang for your buck if you wait 4 months.
09:57:39 Actually so minimum 2 months, 4 months since your last vaccine or infection.
09:57:45 So if you got a booster a couple months ago, or you Enforcement got Covid a couple months ago. If you wait 4 months since then, you're going to get your best immune response
2 year vaccine So that's what I generally recommend for folks unless you're in a very
09:57:59 high risk group This person also referenced that they were going to be traveling in February, so planning that vaccination around there.
09:58:07 So if you, for instance, have a major trip where you know you're going to get a lot of exposure getting vaccinated if it's been more than 2 months about 2 weeks before that
trip, will get you your most benefit prior to that trip so just a couple things to weigh But generally 4 months
09:58:22 since your last infection or booster is going to be the best bet, unless you're very high risk.
09:58:27 If you're very high risk. So you're undergoing chemotherapy.
09:58:29 We just want to get you as much protection as soon as we can so in that case, 2 months since your last infection or booster is going to be the way to go this person also asks
about they are traveling to a place where paxilvid isn't available and they were
09:58:46 wondering what to do about that. Is that something that they can get to bring with them, you know, around travel.
09:58:51 A lot of folks might bring antibiotics or bring something in case they get sick out of country.
09:58:56 And this person's traveling out of country. Unfortunately, Pax little bit is not one of those things that we can get and keep.
09:59:02 In advance of needing it. There's a lot of reasons for that.
09:59:07 But one of the reasons is that it's entirely federally funded So it's something that's paid for by the Federal Government.
09:59:13 And so there's very strict ways that we prescribe it So if a doctor prescribes it outside of those spaces, we can get in trouble and end up not being able to receive more packs
a little.
09:59:23 Bit So, unfortunately, it's not something we can give for travel.
09:59:28 We really can only give it for folks who are positive. However, this person did acknowledge that they don't have underlying conditions, and they are up to date on their vaccines
and planning to get their omicron-specific boosters so in that case, I think you'll actually
09:59:41 do okay, even without packages of it. On the in the unlikely chances that you come down with Covid and you're out of country.
09:59:47 If you're up to in on your vaccines, it won't be fun to have Covid.
09:59:53 But you are very unlikely to have severe disease.
09:59:55 If you're really up to date, So best thing to do, make sure you're up today on your vaccines, and and we're a high quality mask in high-risk spaces.
10:00:03 So on the plane on any kind of bus any kind of indoor gathering space, and then this person said they were traveling to Mexico If you're going out to eat going to some place
that has you know, open windows open doors outdoor seating is going to really reduce the risk of you
10:00:16 contracting Covid while you're there. If you take all those precautions, I think you can have a really good trip.
10:00:24 The another person was was just kind of checking in about autoimmune disease and covid.
10:00:31 I'm really glad that our answer was helpful to you, and hope you can stay healthy through this long winter.
10:00:36 I want to encourage everyone to get their flu vaccine as well.
10:00:39 The flu season has not gotten into full swing yet, but we anticipate that it will in the coming months. So one of the biggest ways you protect yourself is getting your flu vaccine
as well this next, person had a question about rapid antigen tests and reports they're seeing that people
10:00:55 are testing, positive, longer with rapid Antigen tests, with omicron variant.
10:01:01 Then they were, with prior variance It's not really clear for sure that people are testing positive longer with Omega; rather that we have much more widespread availability.
10:01:12 Of testing, so we didn't used to have tests in our home where we could test daily and see when we stop testing positive.
10:01:17 And so it's possible that folks were testing positive longer even before.
10:01:21 But we just didn't have that kind of data available to us. But this person was wondering, What are they doing with that information?
10:01:29 If you're testing positive past a 10. Does that mean you should stay in isolation?
10:01:34 What does it mean for higher risk? Family members things like that, I would say.
10:01:38 Generally we still aren't recommending using antigen tests to decide when to end isolation.
10:01:44 But if you have a very high risk family member, you're worried about being around, and you have access to the Antigen test to support that.
10:01:52 And you're realizing you're testing positive. At day 10.
10:01:55 What I would recommend is avoiding those highest risk spaces.
10:02:00 So say you have a family member you want to visit in long-term care, and you're still testing positive on ancestors.
10:02:06 That would be one space where I think it would make sense.
10:02:10 To go ahead and wait until you're testing negative before you enter that space.
10:02:15 If you're not wanting to burn through Anston test, you could test every other day as opposed to every day to wait until you test negative It's not clear that folks after day
10 are actually saying, contagious we do see that that viral load really drops.
10:02:28 Over the course of your infection, and one of the biggest things that you can do to reduce your risk of transmitting infections to others is to wear a mask So if you're going
to be going out and about, and you know you're still testing positive wearing a mask in those spaces
10:02:39 makes a huge difference. So it's really all about the risk of where you're going.
10:02:46 The risk of the folks that you're around, and if all of these things are accessible to, you, we're not recommending that the general public test every day to figure out when
to leave isolation, because there is so much covid in our community things like strict isolation and quarantine really made a lot
10:03:02 more of a difference back when there was less Covid going around.
10:03:07 But if you have someone who's very high risk, and it would be really really dangerous for them to get Covid doing clear of that person, or that space until you are testing negative
is a good idea.
10:03:19 The other thing to know is that while they are not technically approved as quantitative tests, there is some degree of quantitative measure.
10:03:25 There, so you may see if you've been testing yourself, and you have Covid that the line gets darker and turns positive faster at certain points in your illness that correlates
with higher viral lobe, and So if at the end you're trying to see like a faint line, you're not even sure if
10:03:40 it's positive you can feel confident that you're dealing with a lower viral load at that point which is less likely to transmit to others.
09:57:09 I know there were a few for you, Dr. Barry, and and one for Willie.
10:03:48 And Certainly, less likely if you're wearing a mask in those kinds of settings.
10:03:54 and then yeah, please, feel free.
10:03:52 Can I follow up on that.com? So this is the one that I'm I'm I'm a little interested in, you know, It's just when we started out.
10:04:01 You know as you kind of said, it was a very kind of binary thought process to to get through once you've been infected with Covid. How do I?
10:03:59 Yeah.
10:04:08 You know we engage with the world It's got a lot grayer at least, to me, so I just kind of wanna reiterate.
10:04:14 So 5 days after a positive test, If you're symptoms are abating, you stop isolation, and whether
10:04:24 You can leave isolation, but you do need to wear a mask for the next 5 days.
10:04:37 Well, the thing to know about the threshold. So with Covid we do actually think you stay positive for closer to 10 days the move from 10 to 5 days wasn't really based on the
fact that.
10:04:49 You're no longer contagious. It's that you're less contagious just after day 5.
10:04:53 And So that's why masking after day for is so critical, And because 80% of people are still contagious.
10:04:58 On day 6; but if you add the mask on top of that, then you dramatically reduce the risk.
10:05:04 You can give it to other folks. And so it was a way to get people back into the world.
10:05:07 Get them back to their lives. Well, minimizing risk doesn't make it cigarette risk, but it minimizes it.
10:05:14 What really happens to your infectiousness, is it?
10:05:17 It follows, a curve, and so it peaks up.
10:05:20 In those first few days, and then falls progressively over the next 7 to 10, depending on.
10:05:26 When you hit that peak, and so you're getting less and less contagious each day after that, and so that's why we start allowing folks to leave.
10:05:36 Isolation, is it? You're less dangerous? You have not 0.
10:05:39 Risk of giving it to others, but less risk. And so we do think that if you say mass after day 5, you're really thoughtful about that masking, not taking it off to eat with.
10:05:47 Others things like that that you are low risk of transmitting to others.
10:05:52 But if you have someone where they got Covid they're gonna die in your family, I would fear clear of them until you're really past 10 days for sure, and if you have access to
ancient tests to double check before you see them.
10:04:25 Right? Okay. And after 10 days you're done, and positive Antigen tests don't really matter for that 5 day threshold or the 10 day threshold
10:06:06 That's a good option, too.
10:06:08 Great. That's helpful. And then, if you're immuno compromise, though, and you get a positive, then the isolation is 20 days at least.
10:06:18 Money, days, yeah.
10:06:24 Hmm.
10:06:35 Great question. So the 20 days is built off of really just sampling overall of immunosuppress people.
10:06:42 So people who are immunosuppressed are more likely to shed live virus longer.
10:06:46 However, that would be one space where you could use a incident test to potentially shorten your isolation.
10:06:52 So say, after 10 days, you're testing negative. I think it would be reasonable to leave isolation sooner than than 20 days.
10:06:59 If you're testing negative at that point, we don't think you're going to have a false negative on those tests.
10:06:17 Some people are. And that's because even if you're getting a negative antigen test because of your immunocompromised system, you are more likely to transmitted to others is
that correct
10:07:13 Yeah, great. And I can. I just dig a little deeper here.
10:07:18 The I and I I don't mean to put you on the spot, detector, very but just curious like, would you say?
10:07:03 You're gonna have a lower viral load if you're really testing negative and that'd be a way to get out a little sooner than 20 days, because 20 days is incredibly hard for for
most folks to reach great question
10:07:24 I mean, would you recommend that if people can do the full 10 days that that they do, but that if if it is, if there is a compelling need to come out of isolation after 5 that
that you can mitigate, that risk but you know that 80% at day 6 that's still pretty darn contagious and I
10:07:42 know. At day 6 I was still had a lot of fluids, and you know there there was still contagion possibility for sure.
10:07:31 Yes.
10:07:55 Yeah, it's definitely safer. Safer to stay out.
10:07:56 So say 10, and I think that's one of the places where I think communication from Federal level State has been very confusing. And I've seen it also get kind of contorted when
it gets moved into policy so.
10:08:10 I I saw that there was an organization that was saying you had to come back on page 6, and that you won't get sick Time after day 5, and that that's not what we want to see
the best is to stay out until day, 10 you have to stay out until day, 5.
10:07:51 So I get that
10:08:24 If you can accommodate thing out for day 10, that's always going to be safer
10:08:34 No worries. And if you're gonna come back after day 5, you really should be feeling better.
10:08:36 If you're feeling very sick, still, you can count on the fact that you're still shedding virus that could infect the people around you.
10:08:42 So you really want to stay home until you're better.
10:08:44 And as a family position, I want it to advocate, for it's important for anyone who's sick to be able to stay home when they're sick.
10:08:52 I really want us to work on building is society that can accommodate people resting when they're ill.
10:08:57 They're going to get better if they're not having to work through their illness, and they're going to be less likely to give it to other people who will.
10:09:02 Then you're gonna have absenteeism. If you encourage people to come back sick, because it's just going to get everybody else sick.
10:09:07 It's a a rapid solution to a long term. And that's actually all my questions.
10:09:19 Thank you. Thank you. Another successful clinic, this past weekend at Blue Heron, in Port Townsend.
10:09:27 I'm just a little bit shy of 400 people with either their pfizer or maderner.
10:09:31 Boost a Moderna booster shot at that event This weekend we are down in south.
10:09:37 County, down in Quilse I'm offering additional booster doses.
10:09:42 There There are still spots available in that clinic, however, that clinic is specifically for folks who either live or work, or are in South County, and would have to otherwise
drive a little bit too, go receive their boost so we are specifically looking for folks within the South County, community at
10:09:59 that clinic spots are still available, and you can sign up on the public health website or give us a call here at the eoc.
10:10:06 I'm in We're looking forward to seeing folks out there.
10:10:11 My kptz question this week came from some folks who had signed up for our clinic I'm the opted to cancel their appointments head to the pharmacy so they could both get their
omicron-specific booster as well as their flu shot
10:10:23 all at the same time. Kill 2 birds with one stone there, and ask us if we would consider, adding the flu shot to our covid vaccine Boost for clinics I think that's a marvelous
idea on the end noted that that would help increase a flu
10:10:42 shot uptake as well as we are concerned about the season over the course of the winter winter.
10:10:47 however, just given the fact that we only have the the single clinic down in quil seen.
10:10:53 I'm currently scheduled. We are exploring a couple more through the end of the month that we haven't announced yet, but we'll have that information up shortly and we probably
aren't going to add that for our last few clinics especially as we're waiting for if and
10:11:06 when the Omaharon-specific booster is approved for 5 to 12 year old.
10:11:11 So we're gonna have to add that potentially to our last remaining clinics, I'm just to keep things simple to stick with and what's been working for us, we probably won't be
adding the flu shot to our last couple of clinics.
10:11:23 we are demobilizing these clinics at the end of our October, as Dr.
10:11:29 Barry mentioned with the emergency declaration: I'm running out and we're losing access to the funding That was affording us the ability to run these clinics.
10:11:38 So the end of October will bring the end of these past faction.
10:11:42 Asian clinics, And again, we're probably not gonna make that change and add flu shots In the in the interim there.
10:11:48 So we'd love to to keep these going. But again, with the pharmacies taking such a a bulk of the work and doing a great job with Jefferson health care, stepping up and most importantly
with our funding running out and we'll announce our last couple of
10:12:02 clinics, and then finally sunset. The service that we've been writing over the past year and a half, plus So barring any questions, that's the end of my report.
10:08:30 Thank you.
10:12:21 I think I'm gonna need counseling for this shift.
10:12:27 It's really quite shocking to me, actually. So bear with me coming to not have Dr. Mary and Willie at your tips on Monday morning Yeah, I am I started to feel a little tears
coming in the corner.
10:12:38 Of my eyes, so super I just can't say I appreciate it.
10:12:42 I am of your consistency and stability and leadership and insight into this unfolding story, that we've all been living through the last couple of years, and, as I said earlier,
I've never haven't been a commissioner without Covid so not it it's gonna be a
10:13:03 we're not without it, but you know, just feels like a big shift to me.
10:13:06 So I'm sure other people in the community are gonna have some stress around this as we try transition, So we're all here for each other.
10:13:16 I'm just saying it out loud on on air this morning, and we need to stay together as a community and keep taking care of ourselves and each other, and super grateful for about
the volunteers who've been leading the charge on these clinics and on all of our staff at public
10:13:34 health I mean, I'm just Mike. I'm over overflowing with gratitude right now.
10:13:40 So. Thank you. Any other last questions for Willie or or Dr. Barry.
10:13:46 This morning. I have a crystal ball question as we go into a new era of Covid response.
10:13:54 you know, with the end of the emergency in, you know, Federal funding drying up and everything.
10:13:59 Obviously, we've been using that, and I'm sure lots of other jurisdictions have really been counting on those funds as well, I mean we're still at over 400 per 100,000, you
know, in Jefferson County.
10:14:11 And we're fine at 400 fatalities per year.
10:09:14 I didn't have that many. Today So I will pass Willie
10:14:35 Yeah, it is concerning, I think. Unfortunately, it does kind of follow a pattern that we've been doing as a country that we get real close getting over the finish line, and
then we we pull back a little too soon and I think that that that may be playing out a bit at this point one thing I am hopeful
10:14:49 for for our region. Specifically, I can't speak to the rest of the country is that we are very well protected against the worst outcomes that we experience.
10:14:58 You know the the amount of us who are vaccinated I think, really will reduce the likelihood that we could see an overwhelming of our healthcare system or a shutting down of
critical infrastructure.
10:15:08 I'm not actually very concerned about those happening here, because we're very well protected.
10:15:14 I think we could see that shake out in other parts of the State and the country, because so many folks just haven't been able to get vaccinated because of all of the political
Muyu and the the misinformation around that But I think here, that's unlikely to happen so I think
10:15:28 it's appropriate to transition to a different way of responding.
10:15:34 But yes, I think the things that we used to mitigate transmission generally are gonna be a lot harder to do, and and frankly impossible to do so.
10:14:16 day. I mean what I guess. What do you see through the flu season, with less support to to the I mean to the existing mitigations that we have
10:15:44 The free Covid test. For example, those are likely to go away by January would be my guess, based on just looking at the funding breakdown at the state level and so, some of
the ways we've really tried to mitigate transmission are gonna fade and what i'm probably most
10:16:00 worried about is there have been some good things we've been able to do in the pandemic.
10:16:05 We've been able to change the way we deliver services We've been able to make sure the people who don't have the funds to pay for health care can get it. We've been able to
make sure that people have the funds to stay home when they're sick you things we were able to
10:16:18 really change society and a lot of the funding for that is going away or has already gone away. We've talked a bit on this program before about things like the child tax credit
which actually largely responsible for reducing some of the severe outcomes related to the pandemic and that went
10:16:31 away, And so I I worry about that, and I hope that we, as a group and as a society, can try to make sure that we care for the parts of this that were good taking care of our
neighbors taking care of the most vulnerable and don't just give up on that in the name of
10:15:52 Hmm.
10:16:49 normalcy.
10:16:50 I mean, you called out free tests, and that's been huge in in my own practice since they've been available, and we bemoaned the lack of them until we had them, and now it seems
really short, sighted to let it disappear again and i'm wondering if there's local
10:17:15 Maybe we're talking about from our end. We knowing that we we don't control the funding streams.
10:17:20 We just manage that. What happens once they come to us We've been prioritizing our highest risk spaces for those tests so that we would play to pay for tests for long term care
for shelters for things like that.
10:17:32 But right now the the distributed tests that we send are from the State.
10:17:36 And so we think that will that funny from the State will likely go away. But it'd be something to talk about, some more Figure out.
10:17:41 Where where do we want to prioritize that work? Where do we wanna prioritize those for our community?
10:17:06 prioritizations that we should consider before that happens
10:17:46 So that our highest risk folks can still Stacy
10:17:52 Thank you. Well, I I I think too. The no, I I feel lucky to have, you know, been able to to be relatively close to your brain, Dr.
10:18:05 Barry and Dr. Locke before you, and really learned about the the risk management involved in managing a pandemic.
10:18:13 And it's something I hope the public will continue to learn about.
10:18:16 It's so easy to think. Oh, we don't have to worry about Covid anymore, or we have to worry about Covid And those are the 2 options.
10:18:22 And it's like No, this is actually like creating a new way of thinking about how we operate in the world based on risk.
10:18:30 And I just think that's so valuable, and maybe, maybe in one of our our last calls, before we lose you every week we could talk a little bit more about that that thinking and
How?
10:17:54 Thank you.
10:18:39 We do that risk assessment and managing our behavior based on risk, not thinking Oh, it's either, You know all masks and vaccine mandates, or it's nothing.
10:18:41 Yes.
10:18:59 Yeah, absolutely. It's not. It's not a light switch, but that's a requires a shift in our our thinking as a society as a whole.
10:18:50 And it's like No, there's a whole lot in between that can manage that risk for folks
10:19:07 Thank you.
10:19:10 Well, thanks you guys for being with us again this morning while we still have the air waves for a couple of minutes.
10:19:19 I we This is the day that we're gonna talk about the vacancies on the boards and committees that we oversee.
10:19:27 Here and there are a number. So if anybody who's listening on Kb.
10:19:32 Dz or on zoom I see our zoom attendee list has got a good number on it.
10:19:36 Right now there are parks and wreck advisory board vacancies.
10:19:41 There are ways to be involved in your community that you couldn't even have imagined, and we would love to have your service so reach out to us in the Commissioner's office,
if you want to list or they're on they're on our website the county website the vacancies.
10:19:56 Anyway. Just wanted to make a Psa. For that. While I had more ears this morning because our chambers are empty, and we will be talking about this later on.
10:20:05 Our agenda this afternoon. Thank you. Guys, We'll give some time back to the airwaves, and grateful for our Kpd Z partners and friends and neighbors.
10:20:18 Thank you for being here with us, and we'll see you next week.
10:20:26 I can use a little bio break before we yeah hearings and heavy work.
10:20:31 This? How about a break? Till 1030, great, 20 to 1030.
10:30:40 alright Commissioner. Eisenhower is just.
10:30:43 Are you coming back alright? We'll wait. Wait for you.
10:30:46 1Â s important phone calls. Thank you.
10:30:55 have a dog needing veterinary care, so I'm triaging that right now.
10:31:00 But we are going to have a hearing regarding calling us back to order and we're gonna have a hearing regarding a resolution for third quarter, 2022 budget appropriations and
and extensions and I believe that mark macaulay is gonna tee this up for us or judy
10:31:23 shepherd, I'm not sure which one of you is gonna start us off.
10:31:25 Well, I'm gonna hand the ball to Judy or fine and capable finance manager.
10:31:32 this is the third quarter supplemental appropriation.
10:31:35 public hearing. I'm happy to report that impact on the general fund is minimal.
10:31:41 Just go around. So people are paying attention to the guidance the board put out regarding Budget.
10:32:02 Okay, Good morning. I'd like to go ahead and share my screen with you, so I will do that.
10:31:46 there will be some general fund submissions, fourth quarter, most notably to cover the increased cost of risk pool insurance premiums, which will be so with that Judy take it
away
10:32:12 And just just letting folks know that because this is a hearing, we will have public comment after staff press testimony after staff presentations.
10:32:11 And I'm sure
10:32:24 Okay. So I'm just showing first off the summary.
10:32:28 that is provided in the resolution; and, as Mark mentioned, we have a low budget impact to the general fund of $53,670, and only one of that is ongoing and I'll explain that
when we get to it and then for other funds we are looking at a
10:32:47 budget impact $949,786. Again.
10:32:56 This is all one time expenditure, impact. And so the the net result to our budget is this: $1,003,456.
10:33:05 And so that is, if that's what's on the docker to approve.
10:33:09 Today, I'm gonna just go ahead and scroll down here.
10:32:22 So. Thank you, Judy.
10:33:13 I'm gonna skip past the summary just because I'll show it at the end.
10:33:19 There was some pagination, and column issues when it converted to Pdf.
10:33:22 Which caused some confusion, and so if it's all right with you, I am, you can indulge me.
10:33:29 I'll look at that at the end. Alright! So I'm gonna shrink my screen just to hear here.
10:33:39 Okay. So first up is by the clerk an appropriation by the clerk to increase revenue for the Blake decision of a 148,684, and then the offs setting expenditure as well and so
this is been
10:33:17 Yes.
10:34:01 earmarked as an additional amount regarding it a refunding legal. Financial. Obligation is paid to dependence for that unconstitutionally convicted of drug possession in Washington
State we're. All aware of the Blake decision you have any questions about this one
10:34:20 No, but Judy, would you mind the the zoom in that you had before was actually just the right.
10:34:27 Okay, okay.
10:34:27 it filled the page nicely. And now it's hard, much harder to see
10:34:36 That's great. Huh! It's a change on mine.
10:34:33 Okay, how about how's that? Is that Okay.
10:34:39 Funny, it's okay. That's okay. Yeah, Okay, thank you.
10:34:44 Are we? Good: Okay, alright. So then, move on. This is another one by the clerk, and I did actually have to talk to Ruth about this one.
10:34:45 Yes.
10:34:58 It's 40,000 expenditure. Recognizing expenditures for the digital conversion of a 111 relevant roles of down.
10:35:06 And so evidently the Aoc has agreed to pay for this.
10:35:11 But it's based on reimbursement, and so it may.
10:35:14 We may have across the year, where we have the some of the expenditure this year, then the reimbursement may happen in 2023.
10:35:25 We just don't We don't really know at this time how all that will pan out so.
10:35:02 Hmm.
10:35:29 But we wanted. She wanted to put the expenditure in there, so that she would have the availability to expense, and then request for reimbursement from Aoc.
10:35:37 Yes.
10:35:40 So, that's
10:35:41 Judy, that that letter from Ruth gave me a different impression that follows this
10:35:55 Because it looks like there are 526 roles.
10:35:45 Okay, So I just talked to her this morning. So let me scroll down here
10:35:58 I thought that. Well, there's the they they agreed to play for 111.
10:36:04 I thought if we paid for all 5, 26, we would get a cost benefit and maybe, air the office of the courts.
10:35:59 Oh! As far as the number of roles
10:36:13 Would it eventually pay for it? But maybe I'm misunderstanding this
10:36:18 and unfortunately, I don't have maybe a full understanding of what this is
10:36:29 Yep: Yeah, it is. I see that. So so would there be a question on the appropriation with to proceed.
10:36:28 That's the same thing as the letter
10:36:45 Right.
10:36:41 If it's a 111 versus 520 cents, or what we're we're asking to do right now is to approve the 40,000 for this year, as far as started.
10:36:54 Okay.
10:36:58 Yeah, the ultimate goal is to micro is to digitize a 100% of those rules of film.
10:37:05 And so this is the first installment, and we hope to get additional funding out of the State.
10:37:09 But in the absence of additional funding, I, when the time comes, I'm gonna recommend that we digitize those at general funding expense because of the value inherent and having
digitally available Records but that's not what this: is I it says the digital conversion, of 111
10:37:29 relevant roles. So I wonder if that's targeting ones that are pertinent to Blake.
10:37:34 Yeah, which is what the Aoc said. They're gonna fund at this point.
10:36:55 The process it sounds like is what I understand
10:37:46 So. It sounds like there's gonna be additional costs if we do the 400, 500, and 26 with and at this time we don't have an understanding of what Aoc is going to do the only agreed
to pay for the 111 relevant rules of bill But again we don't know
10:37:41 Would. Yeah, I don't know. I'm very confused.
10:38:09 So is the $40,000 for a 111 for or 511.
10:38:15 Yeah, wow, at spending Well, it's labor intense.
10:38:19 Umhm. They have to bring each image up as it's digitized to do, a quality control, and if the images are not acceptable, then they have to remediate, and that takes time.
10:38:33 We had a project like this in Clarke County, and these costs are similar to what we paid.
10:38:36 Then
10:38:39 And a lot of work going through those files right now, for Blake.
10:38:02 when that's gonna happen, based on, you know, reporting for reimbursement
10:38:44 Reimbursements so trying to improve that process, I would say it's great that the aoc is willing to pay for some of this, because I remember conversations last year where we
were like how are we gonna cover all this Yeah, potentially maybe there'll be help more.
10:39:03 Financial underwriting For more of these conversions in the future.
10:39:07 But they sound like the most important 111 roles.
10:39:10 Right. I just that's not that what the letter says to me from Ruth.
10:39:14 Can we just clarify that me cause? She says. Modices agreed to amend the contracts.
10:39:19 The vendor to convert all the microfilm in the clerk's office.
10:39:23 The rates in this contractor significantly below. Another bid received and slightly more than the first quote This would be a cost, effective opportunity to preserve those permanent
records, and then we could stop paying the annual licensing fee if we're only doing 111 with this then we're not
10:39:35 gonna be able to stop that any licensing features will still have 415 roles of microphone.
10:39:46 yeah, maybe we could get Bruce on the phone or we we can come back to down.
10:38:57 Right.
10:39:53 Yeah, we've got some time, have a question, and just all all 500, plus, or just the 1 11.
10:40:00 Yes, Okay, I'll I'll send her note.
10:39:54 Okay. Yeah, she said. She
10:40:04 She said she'd be available if it needed for discussion.
10:40:03 I might have misunderstood. Okay.
10:40:08 So she might expect your call. Okay, So we'll we'll circle back to that.
10:40:13 Maybe we could have Caroline Airline call to join Yup
10:40:17 Okay.
10:40:21 Alrighty. So the next one is for the Community Services Fund, which is a true up to contract The only cap contract was for 168,447, and we had only originally budgeted a $162,002.
10:40:40 So, therefore the amount is needed to match the contract that's already been approved and signed along with the Jefferson County fairgrounds as well.
10:40:58 Yeah.
10:41:02 Where we don't
10:40:51 the contract amount was 2,927, and so, therefore there's an increase to the budget on that one.
10:41:10 As well
10:41:10 Okay, And this has to do with District Court. There's an in here.
10:41:07 Hmm.
10:41:16 Let me expand it out a little more cause This one looks small to me.
10:41:23 So this is interagency, reimbursement, Agreement between Washington again Aoc and Jefferson County District Court regarding its enhancing of the District Court audio, and visual
system.
10:41:37 There was a grant that is, to help with that reimbursement.
10:41:41 So, therefore, we're adding revenue for the grant up here at 48,200, and then the offsetting expenditure.
10:41:49 Also 48,200, and it looks like Aoc is already approved.
10:41:32 Yes.
10:41:55 The grant, award.
10:42:01 We want to go back now that Gordon's here
10:42:07 Hi! Ruth, Alright! Good morning, everyone. What's your question?
10:42:13 So the question is the the money that is being appropriated for microfilming The 40.
10:42:18 1,000 is that for the 111 roles of film?
10:42:22 Or is that for all 500? What is it? 39, 6, and we'll need you to be at the microphone if you don't mind
10:42:30 Cause, cause? Can you scroll up a little bit, Judy?
10:42:05 We can.
10:42:34 So we can see that we see the reason for above it budget appropriation at the bottom of the pay and it gets cut off.
10:42:34 Yes.
10:42:42 So we might want to go to the letter
10:42:48 No, no, it it gets cut off, though, on that page It's not all the operation form.
10:42:55 So okay.
10:42:58 This is no, no, microphone. So So you're I.
10:43:06 Which one it is now. It's everything else So it's the 5. Everything, is it?
10:43:10 Over, over and above the 111 that they've already agreed to.
10:43:14 Yes, so there's there's 2 funding sources that I and one of them is you, and that's what this request is.
10:43:22 So we have received, we will receive. Person. Went to a contract that lasts until June, thirtieth of next year.
10:43:32 accept reimbursement for exceptional administrative costs in dealing with Blake and Chris Stanley, who's the financial guy at Aoc has given me an email saying that this is a
legitimate, X You know, extreme unusual administrative cost and They will pay for the
10:43:50 cost, digitizing our criminal records from rolls of tape, from 2,000 from 1,971 to when we started digitizing.
10:44:01 So that's coming. That's a pot of money that we're gonna be and reimbursed, for we have other tapes That's the 111. It's not a 111 Yeah, you have the difference between 500
and
10:44:27 31 and 111 that you need to digitize, and this 40,000 is for those Okay, great And then, is there a chance that more funds will come in to compensate for this? No.
10:44:32 So this is just would just be a general fund expense, but it would save the 2,000 microfilm It will save the annual licensing of the viewer that we have for, viewing microfilm
and the other thing that you that we need to be aware of is that microphone.
10:44:47 Is not permanent. You have to read, you have to re microfilm.
10:44:51 If you're, you know, make a copy of the microfilm.
10:44:53 If you're not going to digitize. So eventually these reds that we have that go back to territorial days, and we're microfilmed in the sixties and seventies are not going to
be viewable anymore.
10:45:05 So we kind of need to do it as a good government move.
10:45:08 It's the we had this opportunity to get some of it subsidized by Aoc, and then I made a local records request for a grant from the Secretary of State's office.
10:45:20 And we didn't get that So this is a thing that we can do.
10:45:25 Now, if we choose to that will modernize the records in the clerk's office, so that we shouldn't have any more expenses involved in retaining these old records that are our
duty to maintain great Yeah, Thank you.
10:42:48 I'm getting there
10:45:40 Thank you. Thank you, Ruth. Check out the flowers on Julie's desk.
10:45:45 Thank you.
10:45:51 Okay. So let's
10:46:02 Okay. So the next one was for the sheriff's office.
10:46:06 And this is for the navigator. Grant that they receive for July through December 2022, And so the revenue is being recorded here, and then the offsetting expenditure that would
impact that revenue as well.
10:46:26 Okay. So this is the for the treasure. And this is an ongoing clerk.
10:46:31 Hire that's being added back into the the budget.
10:46:35 When the budget was done last year, the clerk hire was actually removed, and evidently what St.
10:46:48 And so therefore we we in inadvertently, when we approve the budget actually or what we were asking for here we actually reduce the whole position.
10:47:02 We remove the whole position, and she brought that to my attention.
10:47:07 That and I researched it, and indeed we removed the position instead of just reducing the position.
10:45:54 Good good clarification.
10:47:13 So that's what this appropriation is to do is to put that back on the books as far as a clerk hire.
10:47:24 This is any questions about that one? Okay.
10:47:37 Okay. So this is auditors, oh, and in. So that's all.
10:47:42 The general plan at this point. This is auditors all moving into other funds, auditors on M.
10:47:48 the quote to for state archives. Requested State archives.
10:47:57 Professional services was ported as higher than one end was intense, anticipated.
10:48:04 And so this is from the auditor's office.
10:48:16 this is for fun. 108 Wsu.
10:48:19 Jefferson extension requesting an overlap between the new administrative lead lead person being hired and then the retirement of Sue Tipton At the end of the year.
10:48:34 So there's gonna be a time where they're gonna be.
10:48:37 She's gonna be retraining that new person and so, therefore, there would be salaries and benefits that would need to cover both of them at the same time.
10:47:15 Okay.
10:48:46 I don't think it's lot less on any of us.
10:48:46 at the end of the year
10:48:49 The importance of having the continuity of Sue tipped in training with her replacement That's a tremor that's a force field change.
10:49:01 Yeah, yes, it's a big one. Okay?
10:49:07 not just weeds control again. This is to handle training, to allocate some training toward for the new noxious needs. Coordinator.
10:49:18 and then due to the vacant, they can see it. The prior coordinator
10:49:28 And this is public health a lot of what they're doing Here is tree up what their actual expenditures are for 22, and also it has some offset with revenues.
10:49:42 but also then just so moving around of expenditures for them, and and adding some expenditures that looks like here
10:49:58 Then for community health, division of public health again, the same thing, I identifying revenues and expenditures that have increased or changed
10:50:16 And of course, through all of these, you know, we ask that question.
10:50:18 Is there enough fund balance to cover the expenditure?
10:50:22 And that's one of the things I do as I go through and verify that various fund balance to support what they're asking for again.
10:49:02 There, yeah.
10:50:32 This is then, for the administration of public health again showing up their revenue and expenditures
10:50:41 Is that a typo in the title of it? Co.
10:50:44 That is got it
10:50:53 Okay, community development had a number of grants that came in for them.
10:51:00 And then this This is always good to see when you have revenue coming in, and then expenditure out.
10:51:07 So just 117,299 increase to revenue, and then the expenditure out same amount, and there were additional one note.
10:51:21 Here. Their additional licenses that were purchased that were needed for the new Dcd.
10:51:26 Employees in 22. Okay, which is what looks like the largest one of the largest expenditures here.
10:51:36 Okay, maybe right along.
10:51:42 Federal force, title, 3 fund, 1 47.
10:50:46 I assume that was Covid. Not a new one
10:51:57 hey! Conjunction with the $175,000.
10:52:02 Grant that we're submitting to Dnr.
10:52:05 And this is sort of a buffer. We have no idea how much it's gonna cost to create it.
10:52:11 our plans for the county. We have depending on who's counting 15 to 20, maybe more separate little communities that might need fine tune.
10:52:22 Plan, but in addition, the lead time on the grant may be extensive, and and so if we begin work before Grant, money's are available, this this will help and does this.
10:52:37 This is the secure rural schools, that we have 200 and yeah and Cwpps development thereof.
10:52:46 Some authorized used Okay, Did you say how much we have in fund balance in that fund?
10:51:45 This is for the anticipated consultant to create a fire protection procedure for the county. I don't know if you wanted to talk anymore, to that mark
10:52:48 1, 4, 700,000. Thank you. I'm just excited to see this work moving forward, and I know it's as we as we experience the weather we're experiencing right now.
10:53:00 Right.
10:53:01 Not not lost on any of us of the importance of this work, so
10:53:07 Okay? Very good. From 1 49 homeless housing.
10:53:15 this is to There was a county entered into a 3 year agreement with bay side housing, or the Department of Commerce, Shelter, bed, Grant.
10:53:25 And so, therefore there are $68,077 remaining on the contract.
10:53:32 So this is to bring that budget in line with the contracted amount
10:53:45 And then we have some public works expenditures.
10:53:13 yes, see
10:53:55 find it a comprehensive list replacing a tractor sheriff, Wds that were needed.
10:53:56 Yes.
10:54:20 You know those out of capital mark, or are those parks, improvements there'll be?
10:54:27 Will those be coming out of capital? The monies that go into fun?
10:54:30 175, which is park improvement. That would be capital money.
10:54:35 this is all out of for unbalance and fee revenues.
10:54:02 Septic Review, and another 2 of them part shelter repair. Lots of different things here needed to keep our parks and good working order
10:54:43 And then this is for fun. 3 o 4, which is a Jc.
10:54:51 Jump, and this is for expenditures that are happening in 2,022 that were slated to occur in 2,023.
10:54:39 Okay, Thank you.
10:55:03 Yeah, which says that
10:55:09 Yeah, I I I think that means they're ahead of schedule, which is good for the community, because it might open earlier than previously.
10:54:56 So they had to move some of that budget back into 2022 to continue with the ongoing work. But if you haven't been out there, it's been amazing to see the work on that part it's
been really fun to watch it
10:55:18 Yeah, that was great to see, but the cost has continued to increase.
10:55:42 So that means long haul contract adjustment is more garbage than we thought right.
10:55:26 Okay, solid waste. 4 o one. So some long call contract adjustments, yard debris, and solid waste education as well
10:55:57 So it looks like a combination of the 2
10:55:49 So Cpi adjustments adjusted for 10 inch projections and Cpi: Okay.
10:56:01 And then your debris was exceeding projections as well
10:56:15 This is an increase due to interest in increased interest fees so, or increase interest rates, which is what resulting in high financial fees, for the Treasures office.
10:56:29 This is fun. 4, oh, 3. Okay, We're almost to the end of it.
10:56:37 Employee benefit reserves. This is fun, 5 o 5.
10:56:39 So based on an estimation of who will be retiring from the county.
10:56:45 there are 6 of it long term employees that will be retiring on 1231 22.
10:56:52 So, therefore there needs to be an increase in the budget line.
10:56:06 Yeah.
10:56:56 to handle those payouts before the end of the year, and upgrade.
10:57:00 No.
10:57:02 I'll just say we will look at this again in Fourth quarter, cause you know we We know what we know now, but it could possibly change again at the end of the at the end of the
year
10:57:17 Yeah.
10:57:31 Okay. And this is for Jim software that requires an update to extend the use beyond the 2022 muse implementation.
10:57:43 the funds are actually coming out of 3 O, 2 to, and they are not refunds to handle this.
10:57:52 continued, ongoing costs for Jims and there was an invoice attached here from Harris.
10:58:03 That explains it's a migration we have to do the migration from abs 6.1 to some point up.
10:57:16 It's a big one. I don't even wanna think about the impacts of those not just finished. Yeah, no, I wasn't thinking about the month or budget request
10:58:09 Unfortunately. Okay, and true to my word, I'm gonna bring up the summary for you once again, so you can see the whole impact for the year, and I'm bringing it up in my spreadsheet,
so that's a little easier hold on that probably wasn't easier for you all was it
10:58:31 let's do this
10:58:36 We have maximize the screen, and then zoom
10:58:38 Yeah, I'm doing it the wrong way. Sorry?
10:58:43 had to go the other way
10:58:44 Yeah, I'm getting there. There we go. Can you see that or more?
10:58:53 Alright. Okay. So here we are for general fund a third quarter.
10:59:00 So like we talked about already. These were the impacts of expenditure, the ongoing expenditure.
10:59:12 So for General Fund we the 1.6 million that's showing down here is for the entire year of what we've done first through third quarter.
10:58:53 Yeah, getting there. That's good.
10:59:19 and the reason for that, if you remember, has a lot to do with the increases at the beginning of the year, for Union contracts, and how that And so it's mostly salaries and
benefits.
10:59:33 in that, and and others as well. But there's that's what.
10:59:28 Yes.
10:59:38 Mostly this is here
10:59:40 Is that total third quarter, correct duty there? Okay, Okay, I'm talking above that.
10:59:46 Yeah, that's the third quarter The 6,001 isn't.
10:59:42 That's about third quarter, that's all. 2022
10:59:51 There'd be $40,000 in there. 7,600.
10:59:55 No, the 40 was a one time. Oh, sorry, Gotcha.
11:00:00 Okay, So I'm is is the clerk hire for the treasurer?
10:59:52 Well, it's I I don't. This
11:00:03 Yeah, got it.
11:00:06 Are we? Good? Okay, alright.
11:00:08 Yup. Thanks. If you want to leave that up. That might be helpful, because we are going to problem open this for public testimony.
11:00:18 and so, if you have joined us, let's see.
11:00:23 I'm cancel. I'm looking for that participant list.
11:00:28 It looks like we have nobody calling in. So if you're with us today on Zoom and you would like to make a public comment on the third quarter, 2022 budget appropriations extensions
please, use the race hand button at the bottom.
11:00:46 Of the zoom screen like we've driven everyone but staff and journalists away or press.
11:00:53 No No one on the phone So Yeah, use the raise hand button at the bottom of the zoom screen.
11:00:58 If you have any questions or comments about the third quarter, 2022 budget appropriations and extensions.
11:00:17 Okay.
11:01:06 Hmm.
11:01:10 And there was also, Staff tells me there was no written testimony on this.
11:01:16 these items received, so I'm not seeing any hands go up, so I am gonna close.
11:01:21 The hearing on third quarter, 2022 budget appropriations and extensions, and ask my colleagues, who was who feels, move, to make a motion.
11:01:35 Well, I guess I mean I think I'm in favor of it, but I do feel like the $40,000 cost should be talked about a little bit, just because it's different right The that Ruth came
and talked about I'm I'm in favor.
11:01:47 Of it, but it is to general fund. Hit right. It is Yeah.
11:01:53 and you were you said you were, you would recommend doing it whenever it came so yeah, that would I would recommend it.
11:01:58 Microfilm gets brittle over time. Oh, for sure, I mean it's and some of it's old and or cash balance at the end of last month was 8.6 million.
11:02:08 I think we can afford it, looking for the future.
11:02:15 Yeah, I'm happy to support that, Judy. Were you?
11:02:23 Well, I meanm just gonna do the other phones. So bear with me a second, and I'll try to queue this one up like I did the other one
11:02:36 Okay.
11:02:18 Gonna go over any other of the summaries like this? Or did you just want to do the ongoing general fund
11:02:40 Are you able to see that? Okay.
11:02:42 Maybe a little smaller. Yeah, we don't see the total.
11:02:46 you know I was gonna just scroll down to it.
11:02:50 There we go, And so what we're looking at as far as one time versus ongoing a lot of one time expenditures and a and a lot of this is is just based on expenditures of course,
that we had we've already.
11:03:07 Been seen. So this is third quarter. These are our totals for revenues, and then ongoing expense, and then not ongoing but one time.
11:03:16 Expenditures. So this is the impact to the total budget for 22.
11:03:22 Again, other funds other than the general fund. So you're looking at, you know.
11:02:47 Oh, okay, sure.
11:03:35 We like that Oh, the only one that frustrates me is the Gyms upgrade.
11:03:27 I mean substantial expenses, but they have the fund balance, you know, to be able to support that
11:03:39 Can't we just let it die for for next year to validate what's coming out of Munis, And we can't do that without this upgrade Get this on the way out?
11:03:55 Greg told me he was grumpy when he showed up this morning.
11:04:05 Oh, We've got a hard conversation. Yeah, but get it out.
11:03:49 Yeah, we're getting there.
11:05:32 ring Barbara over. Oh, I see she's coming over, and I'm not sure. Is Philip gonna join us this afternoon as well and Yeah.
11:05:51 Testing testing check check
11:05:57 Brian, can you hear us
11:06:02 do you wanna test? Maybe, Mark, and and Brent as well?
11:06:05 Yeah, How about me?
11:06:10 Testing 1, 2, 3, Okay, Great: Okay, Who is going to start this item off?
11:06:20 And with assuming it's you, Director Butler Thank you.
11:06:24 So this is a continuation of our hearing from last week.
11:06:27 Right? Yeah, I read that the hearing, I asked Carolyn the same thing. Apparently the hearing was closed. So it's just yeah yeah and potential action.
11:06:38 Oh, thank you, madam. Chair and members of the Board subsequent to our meeting last week.
11:06:46 staff, from the Department of Environmental Public Health and DCD.
11:06:52 worked with the prosecutor's office to make changes to the ordinance consistence with the direction that we heard.
11:07:08 Proposed closed changes to the ordinance that was submitted, and and for ease we provided you a copy that shows of the edits, And so that is what we call the line, in and like
out.
11:07:23 Version and then we also, have a copy that's clean, and that clean copy would be the ordinance that Staff is recommending for adoption.
11:07:33 I am going to provide through our staff an overview of the changes, and I'm going to pass the baton to our new deputy director, Josh.
11:07:46 Peter. Congratulations Josh: Thank you, madam.
11:07:50 Chair, and I'll actually quickly pass that to time. I'm learning how to delegate when it pass.
11:07:57 At the time I'm gonna pass the baton to Brian only because he has a few slides.
11:08:02 Now I know that Brian's had lengthier presentations.
11:08:05 This, I. I promise, is only a few slides, and and really it's just going to show the main changes as the main objective.
11:08:10 He also has a new permit flow chart that if you're interested, he could show that we've changed the flow chart based on the changes we made last week.
11:08:20 alright. Thank you, checking my Mike. I'm gonna share my screen and do my check to see that it's behaving the way I want it to on your end.
11:08:19 Right the floor as far as Brian
11:08:30 So you can hear me. That's good, and checking now to see if the slides are moving.
11:08:38 Great hey! Good morning, chair, Eisenhower, and members of the Board for the Record.
11:08:44 I'm Brian Benjamin, Assistant planner with the Department of Community Development, and today's presentation will provide a brief summary of changes made to the proposed legal
lot of record regulations after board deliberation on september 2622
11:09:02 After closure, the public hearing on September 20, sixth, the board began deliberations on the ordinance at the end of deliberations the board Directed DCD.
11:08:38 Yup
11:09:12 Stack to prepare changes to the ordinance to address concerns about process complexity and expansion of presumption.
11:09:21 I believe a lot of record status for certain lines
11:09:25 Board directed change was to streamline the permitting process to make it thus complex for applicants, specific concerns included the requirements for recording of all legal
out of record.
11:09:38 Status, determinations, and the number of applications needed to make it through the determination process.
11:09:45 The initial staff recommendation required both site, Development Review and legal out of record determination as separate permanent applications, and the removal of separate
legal out of record determinations, processes was desired.
11:10:01 By the book
11:10:02 Second board, directed staff to consider, creating language the presumed lead.
11:10:07 A lot of record status for lots legally platted and approved, or after August eleventh, 1969.
11:10:15 This presumption would allow these lots to move more easily through the Site Development Review process.
11:10:22 By decreasing the review requirements for lots that are presumed to meet contemporary subdivision standards
11:10:31 ECD. Staff Review, Dc. Staff reviewed the initial staff recommendations and implemented the board, directed changes.
11:10:40 The ordinance has been to include the following changes.
11:10:45 First the new proposed language of the ordinance removes a separate legal out of record determination from side development.
11:10:53 Review. The new approach embeds legal out of record determination as a complete phone.
11:09:51 Okay.
11:10:58 It outside Development Review. When applicable for a given lot
11:11:05 Next DCD. Staff directly incorporated the Board's directive to presume the legal a lot of record status of lots platted and approved approved by the county Honor.
11:11:16 After August ninth, 1969. As a result, these last will move more quickly through the Site Development Review process by default
11:11:28 This Dc. Staff also directly incorporated the Board's direction To remove reporting requirements for all legal lot of record decisions.
11:11:43 which reduces timelines for permit processing, and reduces cost to applicants.
11:11:50 Lastly, in order to clarify exception processes available to project proponents. Dc.
11:11:57 Renamed an exception process from reasonable economic use to residential development.
11:12:04 Exception. The standards of the subsections are unchanged, but the process has been renamed to emphasize that the final exception process allows project proponents to demonstrate
the residential development of the site can be accomplished safely
11:12:24 So let's recap these changes in terms of what applicants can expect to see as a result of the board directed changes, These changes streamlined the process by allowing site
development review to be the primary permitting, view by presuming leave a lot of record status the greater number of lots and
11:12:47 by decreasing the cost of permitting, added by requisite recording, and the time associated with recording those documents
11:12:58 So this is the kind of graphic representation of the reorganization changes.
11:13:04 The DCD is recommending, we will start with Site Development Review as our permit.
11:13:17 Application for all lots prior to development proposals will still be answering this core.
11:13:25 Legally created questions. So we are reviewing for a lot of record status to ensure that the lot was legally created, and at this point we'll set any illegally created lots
from our review process.
11:13:38 We have a make a lot of record determination process or status determination.
11:13:45 Still, as a part of Site Development Review, but conforming lots.
11:13:49 So that's conforming to zoning standards residential.
11:13:41 And
11:13:53 One to 5 area, we'd have a 5 April, or in a rural residential one to 10 area a 10 acre parcel zoning standards.
11:14:02 Then post August, eleventh, or on or after August 1,969 clouded lots will both be affirmed, or zoomed to have legal a lot of record status.
11:14:16 All other substandard lots will be reviewed for the exceptions of 0. 7 0.
11:14:21 Said before, or will you move through the residential development?
11:14:26 Exception, if they do not meet the exception standards again.
11:14:32 Residential development. Exception is both a site specific and project specific review So it's a more intensive exception.
11:14:42 But that's what we viewed as necessary for those most difficult thoughts
11:13:55 Bye.
11:14:56 Well, I just want to start off by saying how grateful I am for you guys flowing this process down a little bit, and taking another look at some of the questions we had, and
it looks like, greatly improving the process for both stat on the staff end.
11:15:15 And also on the the end user. And the person who's actually trying to move a permit through the process.
11:15:20 So I just I just I've been saying, slow down a little bit a lot lately in my my home life, and and here as well, and I feel feel like we benefit if we slow things down and have
more what take another look at things so I just want to say I'm gonna start off by saying
11:15:41 how much I appreciate that. And your work. I know I love your flow chart, Brian.
11:15:47 I think you that's I can credit you with that right?
11:15:50 Oh, and Josh! Oh, credit! Oh, credit goes to Brian about the sanctity chart, so he's good at that, and was able to make changes pretty quickly.
11:15:59 Last week. I did want to add, first of all, thank you for your comments.
11:16:02 It has been a lot of work for everybody, and we're there's still a lot of work to be done.
11:16:07 Just this morning I was thinking about all the various tasks for implementation I mean, we're we're ready to implement tomorrow if you take action today, but there's still a
lot of follow-up work. That. We want.
11:16:17 To do, including outreach to some constituencies, septic designers, Well, drillers, realtors, etc.
11:16:24 I wanted to add one thing to what Brian said.
11:16:26 I heard the comments this morning during the public comment period, and there was a comment about trying to differentiate between types of permits, and I just wanted to clarify
that we did do that I'm not sure if this satisfies that particular commenter, but I would say that we have separated.
11:16:46 Develop permits that would require the Site Development Review process as a prerequisite from others, and that is, the detail is in the Site Development Review Section Appendix,
D. A.
11:16:58 New article, 7 to 1840, Jefferson County Code, and it's 1844, 50, sub, 4 talks about the types of permits that are not required to Do the Sdr.
11:17:13 Process, the Site Development Review and those would include mechanical plumbing, replacement, hot water, propane reroofing window replacement permits permits for cell tower
alteration, and modification interior remodels that do not increase The buildings footprint or include land disturbing activity
11:17:29 or not substantial improvements. Pursuant to 15.15, which, by the way, it does have a financial element to it within the flood damage, prevention, ordinance.
11:17:38 So we feel like we've met all of those particular comments, not sure if there's anything else or any other questions about that, I think you I think that go admit it.
11:17:52 The comments.
11:17:53 Other questions That's input right? You are the one that Yeah, we're great.
11:18:01 We're grateful for. We're selling us down and having the questions and
11:18:08 I mean, I think there's some great I don't know Kung Fu in here, cause everything's still in here.
11:18:16 It's just been reordered as far as I can tell.
11:18:17 You know, and I think it's it's stronger for it.
11:18:19 So I I do really think that it's got things in the right place, and we want to make sure that that we we do meet these standards that you guys lay out here.
11:18:28 So I'm I'm over overjoyed by the changes, you know.
11:18:32 I'd still I'd love to put a few scenarios through the paces. Just so.
11:18:37 We understand. You know what the change we're making for developable property is I don't need to do that right the second, but I just.
11:18:46 and I'm not. I think I'm in favor of them.
11:18:49 As As I understand them. I think that it's it's appropriate, you know.
11:18:51 I might going back to you know, Mr. Fox's testimony last last week.
11:18:57 I might think that you know these denser areas with the pay from the paper plots might have some rationale for exploring, but we're not going to with this, and I think that's
okay, i'm I'm okay, with, that.
11:19:10 I just wanna make sure that we're very clear about what we're stopping.
11:19:13 You know, cause I've had a lot of conversations with different landowners.
11:19:16 Okay, So how does this actually impact me? And everyone that I've looked at, you know, it's still usually comes down to land area for on-site septic or accessibility to a large
on-site septic system.
11:19:31 You know So I'm gonna just state what I understand, and tell me where I'm wrong and to you to Brian.
11:19:38 But if it's a a paper platform before 1,937, it's probably not a legal lot of record.
11:19:46 Is that right? I mean, unless there's some other work that has been done after that, on the same parcel that is defining that parcel that I feel like, That's the really impacted
group of of properties Yeah, commissioner roger and I will give you the short answer which is you're you're right?
11:20:02 That's probably not going to be accepted as legal.
11:20:05 Lots of record, and principally because there really was no land use evaluation prior to 1937.
11:20:13 The first Subdivision act in the State. So that's the short answer.
11:20:15 I don't know if Brian or our friends from the prosecuting attorney's office want to embellish that answer.
11:20:21 yeah, I mean, I think will to address that first. It depends on where you are.
11:20:28 for instance, lots within the uga that were created prior to 1937 are going to be accepted.
11:20:36 so it it really is a place, dependent question. There's also a component of what may or may not have already been approved on a particular.
11:20:48 Lot, if if a lot has development on it. That was approved by the county, and this legally created, then it does move through the exception Standards, vacant lands, particularly
those vacant lands held in common ownership by a single entity that are the that exist in plots created prior to 19
11:21:11 37 will likely have some kind of reward organization.
11:21:15 They'll need to consolidate. We subdivide depending on what's suitable to that property owner.
11:21:22 There's no steadfast rule that says lots in those plats will not be considered legal.
11:20:21 yeah.
11:20:20 I would Hmm!
11:21:38 Right, right.
11:21:43 And then the acceptions from you know, 1937 to August eleventh, 1969.
11:21:53 so? The other question that I got a lot in this past week is, you know, if you have a nonconforming lot, that is, would the site review would likely find buildable develop?
11:22:06 You Know Billable. So 2 and a half acres Say, I think we use that example a lot is something that's not conforming to the zoning.
11:22:14 if the owner owns contiguous lots that are non conforming, what's the process?
11:22:21 They would go through to see if they had to consolidate those lots, to be able to develop them.
11:22:26 If each of the lots individually could potentially be developable, because that's the other question.
11:22:33 I got a couple of times this week
11:22:38 Rather than try the short answer. I'm gonna go straight to Brian.
11:22:44 my understanding is that a and owner of contiguous lots, irrespective of their size, will have to aggregate lots to the greatest extent possible, unless those lots have had
prior determination by the county, I think, a good example is, if there's approval already granted for that lot.
11:23:09 to hook up to a to a large on-site septic system.
11:23:15 That's that's a approval from the county that each one of those lots, the certified or approved for residential use as individual lots.
11:23:26 So there are contexts where it becomes a more complicated question.
11:22:42 Hmm.
11:23:30 But even if an owner has vacant properties that are larger or appear larger and more developable, the exception criteria is that those contiguous lots are aggregated to the
greatest extent possible
11:23:48 So what have I sold all but one of them
11:23:55 If I sold all the one of them. So I just I don't.
11:23:58 I only have one now. I had 3. I'm like, Oh, well, maybe I'll sell this one, to You know my brother and I'll sell this one to my sisters.
11:23:53 If you sold one of them, then it would be considered
11:24:08 Yep, so if if a lot is owned in common ownership, and they don't, they don't have a project they're looking to move through right now, and they would like to convey those lots
separately prior to development going through the site development review process then the new owner of that
11:24:29 bot would not be in common ownership, and be able to review it as an individual.
11:24:05 Now I just have one nonconforming lot
11:24:38 Okay, tonight. Ask of within the Uga question, even though it's accepted.
11:24:49 So Irondale has a lot of tiny lots, and it's always been common knowledge or neighborhood discussion that you need 3 lots and iron bill to put a septic system is that based
on the square footage of 3 lots for minimum like with drain field and we figure that as far as you know, Oh.
11:25:13 bye, 5,000 square feet, and so we've determined already that, based on the soils that after 15,000 square feet to develop, that would be accurate.
11:25:24 Okay. I just was wondering where that I've I've been getting this question a lot And I'm telling people that Uga is accepted.
11:25:31 But you know I still get the question. So I'm just trying to clarify my answer.
11:25:35 Sorry for taking this down that road a little bit, but to follow it up, even if you had a a league, a lot of record, and you know, say phase 3 of the sewer, it's a residence.
11:25:46 You still it's not necessarily developable if you just have 1 5,000 square foot, because you still can't build the separate system, because typically you need that 15,000 square
feet.
11:25:57 But if you are patient, you might come upon a day when the sewer project enables development of those smaller parcels
11:26:10 Really, really, pays them right. I was on the call.
11:26:19 The planning commission in 1998, when we adopted the first comp plan and the growth management acting as though that's when we said we wanted to sewer and had like that was
a long time ago.
11:26:30 it's just to clarify. So if this ordinance were adopted today, for example, and nothing would change on the ground for those iron dell lots in terms of their ability to develop
it would still be based on limiting factors and most likely it's it's carrying capacity for
11:26:45 on-site or sewer system. That's the biggest factor
11:26:50 But the reason why they're accepted, and the consolidation process that Brian outlined a moment ago about in a different situation wouldn't apply, is, because we want to preserve
that ability in the future so in other words people could choose to develop now but it would be using a different tool, most
11:27:07 likely a restrictive covenant around those 3 lots to be able to put them together, to build something, but that wouldn't prefer include the ability to have more densification.
11:27:18 If you will, of that small area in the future, if and when the sewer gets there, cool, thanks
11:27:27 You have more. Greg: Okay, I My comments are fairly general also really appreciate the work that's gone into edits.
11:27:37 I think it is sequenced better, and especially for the benefit of the public, who the legal lot of record is less important and valuable to most people who walk in the door
It's more important to us, And it's certainly valid for folks who will end up in the small pile of
11:27:56 lots of are not legal lots of records, so appreciate it.
11:28:03 Appreciate the the changing of reasonable economic use. As you know.
11:28:08 Again, I think another kind of insider game language that we, you know, can we?
11:28:13 Don't We need to perpetuate? It's just more clear to our customers walking in the door.
11:28:19 residential development makes a lot more sense. So yeah, I am happy with the changes made ready to move forward with it.
11:28:31 yeah.
11:28:37 Anything else, any more discussion, anything else, You guys think we need to know.
11:28:45 The only item that I would identify is that, as you are aware, the department is striving to create transparent processes, so there are a couple of areas in the ordinance where
sop standard operating procedures would be triggered so that how we apply the
11:29:06 ordinance, is clear and transparent. Yeah, I could highlight some of those areas, for example, an area where I see a need for a standard operating procedure appears on 18.12
point, 0 2 O under in certain cases number 3 certain cases The director may require The applicant or
11:29:35 owner to provide a professional survey or of the legal lot of record acknowledging that surveys are really expensive.
11:29:44 We want to make sure that there is a standard operating procedure for that.
11:29:48 There are several other areas throughout the ordinance where I've seen that, and there are other processes that will, we will add to ensure that that transparency is available.
11:30:00 That's great.
11:30:03 And maybe to just to reiterate a little bit about what I was saying last week, just for the public's benefit, maybe, or for the record that you know, we we know that this will
will affect some people, and in ways that they will not be happy with and you know I we have a weird relationship
11:30:23 with speculation in this country. We're bill on speculation, and these are holdovers of speculative eras that it's unfortunate that folks will think that they are losing something.
11:30:35 But that's the risk of speculation is that you don't have something until it's it's time to utilize it.
11:30:42 And then that speculation comes to play. So you know I I I'm very supportive of growth management that does not allow for rural sprawl in in the areas we have designated for
rural I think it's important for us to maintain those for any number of reasons good
11:31:03 transportation planning, environmental impacts. You name it.
11:31:10 So just one other point I wanted to make. It was at a meeting last week with the Washington Academy of Sciences.
11:31:16 Who does scientific review of policies, either forward, looking, you know, in advance of new policy, or backward looking.
11:31:27 And they were doing an assessment of no net loss.
11:31:31 Laws in the State, and their assessment was that they have been ineffectual.
11:31:36 And so in protecting the environment that that is not enough.
11:31:43 And so this is just another example of where we have a responsibility to be to be really smart about where we allow land uses, and we know specifically that that carving up
into smaller and smaller pieces of land for development in rural areas has a detrimental effect.
11:32:02 So I'm glad that we're moving forward with this and taking a I think of a reasonable approach.
11:32:09 You know, we do have a number of opportunities where there is the ability to try to work with some subjective qualities, to get to a development right And and we're also saying
there are places where that's not appropriate So i'm.
11:32:23 I'm pleased with the balance
11:32:29 I, too. I I think it's yeah I. The reordering makes it read a lot better than me the order makes sense.
11:32:37 The the balance is as Kate talks about, I think, is appropriate.
11:32:43 You know, with complicated code like this. I I'm always concerned about unintended consequences, and I think we just have to keep our eyes open to those as you guys go through
the process and the fees.
11:32:55 You know I'd rather, you know, measure one measure twice, cut once.
11:32:59 Yes, but if you're if you, if we cut it in the wrong place, let's let's not.
11:33:04 Let's not just say well, that's the way it is.
11:33:05 But, you know, continue to improve iteratively. So I really appreciate the work in the past week.
11:33:11 I think it's made significantly more usable and and logical and kind of defangs.
11:33:19 Some of the fears that I heard about legal lots of record, as you know, as a taking.
11:33:25 So I heard that a lot, and I I don't think that's that's not how I see it. I don't think it's the intention, and I I think this is yeah, program.
11:33:33 I'm ready to move forward Do you mind me? Are we doing public comment again?
11:33:38 No, okay. I'm ready to make a motion if other questions are ready, I'll move to approve an ordinance related to determination of the legal status of lots standards.
11:33:49 For non-conforming lots. Site Development Review boundary line Adjustments.
11:33:53 Amending Chapter 18.10 and 18.3, 5 of the Jefferson County Code adopting a new chapter, 1,812 of the Jefferson County code, adopting a new article, 7 in chapter 18 Point, 40;
Jccc. And miscellaneous other amendments, to chapter 18.40
11:34:10 Jcc. Second, all in favor bye, bye passes unanimously.
11:34:18 Good work. Thank you. Team: Yeah, Now, you Gotta get busy implementing.
11:34:26 Just I could have one more. First of all. Thank you very much, and did want to say that we had an all staff retreat on Friday this past Friday. And I thank you.
11:34:36 Chair I Was in power for being with us there in the morning, providing us your wisdom It's got us off to a great start, and in the afternoon the exercise that we chose to do
a lean continuous improvement style.
11:34:47 all hands on deck workshop was the implementation of this just in case. Yeah, So I just want to say that you know, a lot of people deserve.
11:34:56 I mean, well, before I join the team, a lot of people that are a lot of credit for all the work over the last few several months, many months to work on this and of course,
that Brian being the project manager is first and foremost but of course, then Barbara and Philip from the prosecuting attorney's
11:35:09 office. But when we had this conversation on Friday, I just wanted to say that what was very exciting about it is that everybody on the team, the front staff compliance staff,
the the planners.
11:35:20 we're all putting our heads together in different ways to kind of think of all the things that that we perhaps haven't thought about, you know, even through the planning commission
process, from the the sort of legislative policy making aspect of it and just more of the implementation features so we are going to be working on
11:35:34 it, and we are going to be thinking of it from an end.
11:35:37 Improvement perspective. And you know, when some of the dust is cleared about the initial transition phase, we'll be happy to Come back.
11:35:45 To you and talk about what's working in things that we might need to change either from a problem standpoint or the sops.
11:35:51 That print mentioned, or perhaps even a fix, if necessary. But we're hoping hoping that it isn't that we've got it right.
11:35:56 And thank you for your input on that. Yeah, I'd love to see you guys Yeah, whenever you're ready to come back and talk about how it's going, I think that would be really really
constructive and help.
11:36:05 Yes, and I just would add that one office that has assisted us.
11:36:12 will continue to be part of our discussions and and that's the office of the Assessor.
11:36:17 I wanted to thank Assessor Jeff Chapman and his assistant, Sharon Schultz, for assisting us, and we're gonna be reaching out to them.
11:36:27 and if me big will return to this board with amendments, if they our team necessary.
11:36:34 Great that's good to hear. Thank you. All my comments Last Friday, where, inspired by my recent sleepless nights and the importance of sleep and the importance of planning on
on everybody in our community, sleep, the built environment, does impact quality of sleep for residents of our all of our communities
11:36:55 and I in one conversation with Josh last week. He's like I woke up in the middle of the night.
11:37:00 I'm like Oh, no, so I hope you don't lose a lot more sleep over this one, but I appreciate the work for sure 3 to sleep element in the comprehensive plan.
11:37:15 I read a bunch of papers on like academic papers on that effect of the built environment on on sleep and communities, And it's quite interesting.
11:37:26 Last week, when I was preparing comments, at 3 in the morning, you were reading these?
11:37:31 No. It usually over dinner. Breakfast. Yeah, Yeah, fine.
11:37:38 Okay, 3, A
11:37:47 Isn't it? 3 A in the signature sheets?
11:37:50 So okay, is that right, Philip? Threea would be a clean copy to sign.
11:21:36 And if they happen to be conforming lots, it also bailing a lot of records
11:38:03 Yes.
11:38:03 Yup: Thank you. Okay, So we are. We are ahead of time right now.
11:38:15 So. So I think Brian has the word version of the of the ordinance.
11:38:15 They have a little bit
11:38:24 Right, Brian. Can you do that? That'd be.
11:38:27 yes, yeah, and I also want to take an opportunity to thank the environmental health team for really supporting our development of this ordinance.
11:38:35 That was a unnecessary and productive work environment.
11:38:21 The he could email that to Carolyn that'd be great
11:38:39 With the is so Linda Pinky, Elisa Randy, Mike Dawson, if you're listening, thank you.
11:38:27 That'd be great. Okay.
11:38:51 Okay, thanks. Everybody for working together on this. Better together, was one of my mantras at the maritime center.
11:38:59 right.
11:39:01 So we are. We are better when we work together
11:39:05 Yeah.
11:39:08 Thanks, Everyone.
11:39:14 so do we want to do a little bit of briefing? I don't remember the last time we did briefing, and I know the last couple of times I haven't briefed you on anything so
11:39:26 I could start off with last week, and just quickly, bye, guys.
11:39:38 so I felt like last week I got called to do a lot of things for the first time, or or, you know, participated in ways that felt Hi de S.
11:39:48 and made 3 gallons of potato salad for a P.
11:39:50 picnic at Caswell Brown on Wednesday.
11:39:54 So my cooking came in in was useful for once as a commissioner I'm sure it won't be the last time, but it was a fun thing to do.
11:40:03 went to celebration of life. Firm Scottland, who passed away a couple of years ago, but it was one of those events in the community where the people in the room It's just you.
11:40:15 Just go. I'm so glad I live where I live.
11:40:18 You know and I'm so glad I'm in community with the people who live here, and have been for my entire, most of my tirement, my entire life.
11:40:25 So we had a budget committee on Wednesday, and then the picnic at casual brown midday.
11:40:36 And then I was signed up to help plant a new rain garden behind the Kidley Center and Port Hab but got called off because they got the the morning and midday ship got it done
Yeah.
11:40:46 So if you're in a havoc, and in the Kivi center, go look behind the Wsu building.
11:40:52 There's a awesome new rain garden where that whole parking lot drains off towards the bay.
11:41:01 Thursday I spend some time writing comments for the keynote address at the DCD.
11:41:08 Retreat. On Friday, and then the guardian app item Lunch also on Friday, and then on Thursday I attended Alice.
11:41:17 Training that was taught by Jen Moore and the courthouse, and I just so. I just got an email from her that they're doing another one. On October sixth and I Hi I encourage everyone
to do it.
11:41:26 It's a great use of an hour and a half of of your time, and we'll result and more of us being prepared to something unimaginable ever happen in our courthouse or or in our community
mark.
11:41:43 And I did agenda planning. Friday. I did the DCD retreat in the morning, and then attended Hmm.
11:41:50 One of my many, D. Dnr related Forest related working groups, the encumbered lands working group meeting, then midday, attended the guardian at venom lunch and I would say that
for me was probably the best use of an hour and a half of my time last week.
11:42:09 Cause I learned so much about something I knew nothing about, and met so many fantastic volunteers and your sister did a great job and did a great job, Kate.
11:42:19 I I heard you did a great job. Hi! It was a wonderful event to attend, and then Friday afternoon and Saturday, I attended a training, and I it.
11:42:31 It was led by Maggie Chumley, who's Superintendent Mock of Jenicum, School's wife, and I didn't really know what kind of consulting works she did but it was called liberating
structures, and it was it was really inspiring.
11:42:48 To kind of unpack the way we hold conversations with each other, and look at doing them in a different way, and I was trying to think of how we could use some of what Maggie
teaches here in the county just to restructure the way we hold our conversations with each other because I felt
11:43:08 like in this room of 20 people. We had these really. We did a lot of scenarios and a lot of short conversations, but I just saw us getting to the point, really fast.
11:43:19 And then, the conversations being kind of post briefing, you know the the meat of the conversation was the conversation, and so, if we ever, if you ever need a facilitator I
want to know more about what she teaches I'd be happy to share unfortunately by attending that I did miss the
11:43:40 first federal Federal issues, cohort of the right, and I don't know if you were able to attend that.
11:43:50 So neither of us. Yeah, we both had conflicts. So we'll try and get some catch up from that.
11:43:56 I don't know the best way to call Eric or I don't know if they've recorded it? I asked, and I haven't heard back.
11:44:02 Yet you've heard. But and that was last week for me.
11:44:11 I got sure, okay, yeah, that was a busy one. Let's see, Hmm: following that kind of consistent theme of federal funding kind of research.
11:44:28 I've been doing. Had a couple of really good conversations with 2 different groups that are interested in doing some economic development around kind of the blue economy.
11:44:46 they're looking at ways that time. Industries can be, you know, either creating some positive environmental outcomes or helping to sequester carbon or so as we look towards
this recompete.
11:44:59 Grant the large 100 million dollar grants, you know, really being able to articulate how our region is well situated to be growing new jobs and growing a new economy, green
economy, for the future that's starting to take some shape which is really exciting so lots of work to do there with lots of
11:45:16 stakeholders, but starting to gel a little bit, I'm back in my old community development days, where all the right partners seem to come to the surface at once and you're like,
oh, I see I see a consistent narrative here and I saw that jake beatty is going to
11:45:31 Stanford business school, now No, I haven't heard that. So Yeah, I just yeah. He's well I don't think he's leaving the merit time.
11:45:36 Center, but professional posted something and said, He's gonna do graduate school at Stanford.
11:45:43 Her business, and I was like, What does this mean? So good for him?
11:45:47 Yeah, it's great. Yeah, let's see, Brendan Butler and I had a great meeting with a potential intern that is interested in working here in Jefferson County on some land use issues
and maybe some housing.
11:46:02 It is Yeah, really super qualified, Very yeah. Well, in fact, she's doing an internship with association of Washington cities, and she'll wrap that up this year.
11:46:15 And then so potentially start to work with us. In January.
11:46:19 Cool. Yeah, So that's very promising. Went to the Key City Theatre ribbon cutting last week.
11:46:27 Had a meeting with John Morrow on some housing related topic.
11:46:34 then Wednesday we had our Budget committee meeting It's a quick one.
11:46:39 My computer crashed and I lost the minutes. So I had to recreate those I might need some help in remembering who made motions and such.
11:46:48 But luckily they weren't complicated minutes since it was a relatively short meeting space, some time working on.
11:46:58 so this trip I'm doing this week. I leave Wednesday morning be on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday at the Minnesota Department of Health.
11:47:06 Is kind of following the lead of Washington, Department of Health, and modernizing their public health structure, and so it's been a good learning opportunity for me to really,
you know, fine tune talking points around public health.
11:47:23 And how we anticipate using the new foundational public health funding.
11:47:27 That was a big change for the State to recognize that they needed to come to the table and fund more to, you know, really, the the root of that was ensuring that the same services
or equal services were available to all residents of the State so it's good timing with that funding coming for the
11:47:46 first time, right now, although it's still a little bit yet to be seen how that will be.
11:47:51 What kind of requirements will be tied to that new source of funding?
11:47:56 We were all at the Caswell brown barbecue, great potato salad.
11:47:59 Thank you. Heidi. I really enjoyed that event.
11:48:04 I made a point of sitting with people I didn't know, and saying, What's your connection here?
11:48:09 Because everybody had some role, and so got to talk a lot with the folks who implement the real program.
11:48:13 The discovery. Behavioral Health kind of a case manager.
11:48:21 rapid. Response. Yeah, Yup. And all young people who are committed to this work and really enjoyed chatting with them, and then also get to talk with the retired veterinarian
who does the dog Karen so a lot of the calls come in the middle of the night he's
11:48:37 crawling around inside the tens of folks living there in a you know, medical emergency for the companions very important companions for folks who live at Kesel Brown.
11:48:47 So really enjoyed that at a planning meeting for childcare efforts, October 12, I believe, is the we're having a public open house about the Child Care Project.
11:49:03 this is to get some inputs from. So the high school will be voting, and following week on whether to move forward with noticing that project Then the public has 45 days to weigh
in so we're trying to provide information, but still strong partnership going there and that's moving along Well, So
11:49:23 you'll you'll see the information about the open house if you're interested in the test The way to Housing Fund board meeting and trying to think for sure getting ready for
for the 1 49 49 Funds Yep.
11:49:43 those those applications are coming in from housing providers.
11:49:46 Just nice to see. Thank you, Caroline. I like the uploading them to the outlook.
11:49:50 Invite is a good way to have him in one place.
11:49:54 No, no. Oh, okay. Good to know. Good to know. Okay. Thursday morning had interesting meeting with the the folks who put on thing the music festival, and they I think we all
kind of had maybe heard the rumor that they've lost money.
11:50:12 Both times they've held that event here, and they're trying to figure out if that's sustainable to do.
11:50:18 and one thing they have identified is that the sense that the fairies are an unreliable source of transportation stopped a lot of people from attending from the Seattle area
so I don't know if you're still working on that letter to Washington state fairies But it would be
11:50:33 really nice to include that, you know just that there's a real life example I could.
11:50:43 I could confirm one certainly don't hesitate to point out that there was Covid in the midst of the 2 festivals, Right?
11:50:51 So that affected turn, I mean, I'm sure they know all this stuff.
11:50:53 But yeah, that happens again Third time might be the charge they were both driving.
11:50:59 Yes, yeah. Let's see. Then I attended the computers on partnership salmon, Recovery Council to to hear that Washington Academy of Sciences Presentation.
11:51:16 Because why? That matters which wasn't relevant to the previous conversation.
11:51:20 But that was really the first step in the state Looking at the net, ecological gain proposals which you know we could see in legislation this year.
11:51:36 maybe less likely. This year, as might be more like next year, because that was kind of loud and clear message from stakeholders with both the Riparian Bill last year, and an
ecological gain bill the year before that that needed to be better fleshed out and understood so didn't
11:51:54 get as much information as I was hoping. Like, for example, the site potential tree height is a really important component of the net ecological gain, and they did not do an
assessment as to whether that was like the appropriate tool, or not buffer based on the site, height of the
11:52:10 trees, the potential. So the trees that are there, how tall might, how could they get And that would determine.
11:52:17 The buffer width because of the amount of shading they would provide.
11:52:23 So it's yeah, yeah, it's a it's a a pretty far reaching tool that.
11:52:34 yes, yeah, it is kind of taken for granted that that's the best available science now.
11:52:38 And counties are, of course, pushing back and saying, That's unrealistic.
11:52:43 So yeah. I think it this is gonna be a a tough one, for I know for me and I'm I will be at the table for a lot of these conversations about what's the right the right tools,
to manage you know we know, more and more.
11:52:59 Right period areas are really important, and we also know that they tend to be in prime agricultural soils, especially in Jefferson County.
11:53:10 So I'll be a part of a round table coming up.
11:53:15 The The governor convened after the Learning Limits Act convened a group to be really diving into this issue.
11:53:21 So I'll be done. Olympia, next week on that issue, and doing a deep dive.
11:53:27 so in part, we don't expect this legislation to come up this coming session, because there's still some processes in place to get more.
11:53:35 Information, but it's Yeah, can I kind of gnarly stuff?
11:53:43 Friday had a good meeting with the Subcommittee for the Board of Health, trying to figure out how we want to take on climate change at the Board of Health, so you'll be hearing
a proposal next week.
11:53:57 on that great first meeting with the We're calling the healthier together.
11:54:04 Initiative, the group of stakeholders working on the community Wellness center and potential aquatic center.
11:54:12 So the city will be coming forward with a proposal.
11:54:14 They'll be discussing it tonight and city Council for the first time, and probably coming to us to see, inquire about some planning funds to get that ball rolling.
11:54:27 they've got pretty specific plan. It's really great to have Kerry heights on board and she's doing a great job shepherding that process forward and then, I went.
11:54:36 To Victoria for the weekend, and biked all around Victoria, which is very fun, little bit, but mostly went the other way.
11:54:48 Went around the southern end of the island, just so sunny and gorgeous.
11:54:55 And yeah, yeah, by one. Let's see last week with you.
11:55:02 Guys. Course Monday like anything happened. Monday evening, the Tuesday I had a meeting with some Bay Side Board members in the morning, and then the afternoon was the 4Â h
solid Waste facilities with placement planning task force, meeting and it was great we've got some homework kind
11:55:21 of trying to identify stakeholders and looking for overlapping points The different stakeholder groups might have, you know, is this, you know, like neighbors, might be concerned
about particular noise, and then who else might be concerned about so just kind of cross-referencing potential.
11:55:41 Impacts and benefits with stateholders. Really, a good team learned a lot and an exciting is gonna be the big, The big question that this group takes on, you know, and it will
be listing criteria, And everything But where potential, facilities might go you know, and the existing location being
11:56:05 Of course one of them is, is going to be a big part of that work, but I didn't know that other sites were being considered are already being evaluated by by staff.
11:56:14 So Yes, there are quite a few, and you know it.
11:56:19 They don't necessarily have to be coupled, you know.
11:56:21 Maybe a commercial, and and residential don't go to the same place, or maybe recycling at one place.
11:56:27 Also learned that Friday, due to early retirement.
11:56:32 Friday the thirtieth was the last day of the medium.
11:56:37 waste, Edm Mrw. Risk weight waste at the at the port, So they're gonna be some remote events.
11:56:44 But you know good news for the port, I guess, but that's requesting that that we we plan for closing that facility.
11:56:56 But that was supposed to be in like a couple of years.
11:57:00 Yeah, December 31 24, right?
11:57:06 So now it's like right now. So that was abrupt.
11:57:08 I I all my stuff, and I was gonna take all my medium risk, waste out there.
11:57:13 But after the volunteer, the the volunteer luncheon with with Heidi.
11:57:19 But I was a little sick on Friday, so I I walk the talk and stayed home.
11:57:25 On Friday, the thirtieth, and work from home.
11:57:28 I missed the intellectual and and Developmental Disabilities Board meet on on Tuesday with the solid waste planning.
11:57:36 Fortunately the Budget Committee meeting one thing to call out, There is the breakout of transient rentals and and hotels, I think, for the first time so great to have that
granular information met with staff to talk about the legal odds of record We know how that ended up and I was also
11:57:54 with everyone at the open house at Coswell Brown. So it I think it went really well great to have so many different stakeholders there.
11:58:04 I really enjoyed talking to the the pet assistance folks, as well.
11:58:11 It was good conversations, and it's one of the real advantages of this outdoor shelter.
11:58:12 Is that that folks can continue. You know, with their what their pets, that are often a a real, Sometimes the only bit of stability in life.
11:58:24 So I I met one actually Mike I met out there a couple of months ago, when we were doing another tour, and he had some that really cost some problems and got a dog recently that
has brought him stability in a way that is fantastic to see so I think there's a lot of benefits that can come from
11:58:45 that safety and security, too. It's huge.
11:58:49 Yeah, housing fund. Board. Kate talked about, you know, kind of getting ready this work.
11:58:58 We month is the a lot of work, and on the Rfps for the 1 48 and 149 funds Applications are coming in.
11:59:07 Already. We're planning a community conversation had a good meeting this past month with some different stakeholders, and and housing agencies, And I think we're gonna focus
on our 5 year 5 year homeless plan as which we have to get updated by November
11:59:24 eighteenth, and maybe talk about a workforce element in that plan, expanding that element that's already.
11:59:31 There on Thursday we had a special meeting of Jeff Com.
11:59:38 To talk about the budget. We're gonna have another one this week to get finalized.
11:59:42 The the user agency fees are going up significantly this year.
11:59:47 The sheriff's office, went up a lot last year, so it it actually isn't going up very much.
11:59:54 But across the board, you know, significant increase. So I have one more meeting to to half through.
12:00:00 That yeah, then our had our monthly call with Hu.
12:00:05 And how's America? Gary Gant, who came out last month to tour, You know, everywhere from Peter's place to Seventh Haven, to Coswell Brown and and the Dove House Shelter.
12:00:16 Was said, that that tour was the high point of his tenure with Hud.
12:00:20 So far, and then he's made contacts with with all the different agencies, and had continuing contact since since that tour.
12:00:28 So I think it it really it. It built a a network.
12:00:32 Up. So I think that was that was really strong, really sad to miss the the luncheon on on that on Friday, and we'll just have to get getting invited to the next one so one.
12:00:44 Thing that I forgot to share is that last week was our deadline for a strategic planning proposals from consultants, and we did receive for solid proposals And I'm gonna work.
12:00:57 With Mark, And we have a team of 8 folks who are gonna be on the strategic planning committee.
12:01:02 So we're gonna read through those proposals and do a little analysis and then get together with the committee and choose a preferred consultant.
12:01:11 So cool, That's that's the process The process had built in to it.
12:01:16 Onsite interviews with 2 finalists. If we decide to go that route, there's a clear winner we can dispense with that step.
12:01:22 Hmm! Great glad they have so many. Yeah, I I kept asking, Have we gotten any that we got in?
12:01:29 And we got 4, which was great, cool.
12:01:35 Should we So anything, Mark, Do you want to? Briefly, brief us, or do you want to do it?
12:01:45 Of course, Tuesday. I had a lot of free time, and so I was able to do a bunch of administrative work.
12:01:52 I've note was negotiating terms with Chris Coe are director.
12:02:00 We have a contract drafted. It's on my screen.
12:02:04 I'll look at that over the lunch hour. We'll get that to you, in the next week or so.
12:02:09 When's he coming? We haven't yet determined to start date.
12:02:13 that's still in the air, I know he's hunting for rental.
12:02:17 from Philadelphia, I wish I'm like in that regard, and it's did some work on the Cw.
12:02:22 Pp. Grant, which Michael mark a meeting with him tomorrow to find that so he can submit it this week.
12:02:31 Have you mentioned strategic planning, and then the Rfp.
12:02:36 For the community. Wildfire protection plans was posted on the website on Friday, and it'll be on the Pt.
12:02:43 Leader. The next 3 weeks, and Brett, Black and 2 butler, have helped us identify a couple of publications to get the word out, so that we hopefully will get a handful of well
qualified consultants submitting proposals on that Tuesday afternoon 2 of the 18 members couldn't meet so John morrow and I had
12:03:05 a very, very good conversation about various things. Lovely open, house, casual, brown.
12:03:14 I love the fact that residents helped serve. I thought that was great.
12:03:18 and then I served on a Waco panel, on compensation studies that was illuminating the research I did for that was based on our 2,017 study and and other research that I did and
So that was a fruitful afternoon jump on board meeting on
12:03:41 Thursday one and I I think we're gonna have a meeting again this week, Greg.
12:03:48 That approved the budget I think you had some reservations, but we're we're getting a 4% increase in user fees.
12:03:56 whereas some agencies, fire districts are saying, a 50% increase Yeah, Our big increase occurred between 21 and 22 and and the city's seeing a large increase in 2,023 also and
then in the afternoon agenda prep with heidi.
12:04:11 And then DCD. Retreat on Friday.
12:04:17 Yeah, Heidi: your remarks were, We're great.
12:04:21 I stayed until about 10 o'clock. I think it was a great team building exercise, and hopefully they'll keep up the good work in that regard And then we had a meeting with and
the State Auditor you probably reviewing maybe some exit comments that they'll they'll be
12:04:40 making, they observed that the grant, the grant that we gave to Pda might have issues with it.
12:04:49 Apparently there's a prohibition against using the Arpa money for principle and interest on debt, and then they said that it couldn't be used on capital.
12:04:59 But we apply the interim fi final rule, And so we're researching the interim final rule I didn't see a prohibition on capital, but they could.
12:05:12 They could speak to that now, since the pda hasn't spent a dollar of that yet, no violation, we might need to.
12:05:21 I get with David Timmons and have a discussion about those funds more to come on that and then they would like to see additional language under procurement ordinance, referencing
procurement competition requirements that are that exist in federal statutes we follow those rules, but
12:05:40 we don't have them stated explicitly in our ordinance or in the public works policy and we might need to amend those documents to include language of that sort, so I don't think
it'll rise to the level of a management, letter or finding but and we'll
12:05:56 see you at the exit. So that was last week
12:06:01 Hmm! Well, so I know that I think we unnoticed.
12:06:08 We remove the notice, for was that because Greg and I are not any ongoing, I have a bunch of stuff I need to do over the lunch hour and a half, so we will recess until 1 30
and come back to talk about legislative priorities and updates with kate and
13:30:08 Okay.
13:30:21 Okay. So it's 1, 30. I'll call us back to order, and everyone can watch us. I'll take naps we're all sleepy.
13:30:32 Now, no just kidding. We are gonna have a lively discussion about our legislative future, led by our colleague, Commissioner Dean and Mark Macaulay apparently is going to give
us some legislative tips too.
13:30:51 actually no, I wouldn't, Them deferred Commissioner Dean on all things legislative, although we didn't announce the good news this morning that we did get over Arpa!
13:31:03 Oh, Yep. Sure! After much sweating on my part, complaining about the fiscal year, disappearing on us with no Arpa news.
13:31:14 On the 20 ninth of September we heard from Wasack Eric Johnson.
13:31:18 To be specific, that at 3 o'clock that afternoon we would be able to access Treasury's portal regarding the revenue, sharing funds, and sure enough I was able to, access it
and we determined that the county will receive 1.6 9 2 million and calendar
13:31:40 year, 22, and another 1.6, 9, 2 million calendar year, 23 a 1 million of that has already been spoken for half a 1 million to the habitat, project in the headlock, and half
a 1 million to Evans vista the city's project on the edge of
13:31:57 town on on the highway and so we're gonna have a workshop.
13:32:04 On November seventh, to discuss the remaining 2.4, just about a 1 million.
13:32:09 The board. I'm discuss some potential funding candidates, but you've not made firm decisions on those monies.
13:32:16 And so on November seventh, hopefully, we can do that great, nice.
13:32:21 Can I ask a question? Is the Evans Vista project going to be for workforce and a portable?
13:32:29 How? What? Yes, a portion of it is workforce, housing.
13:32:35 it's a multi target project, Greg.
13:32:37 You might know more than I do, And, Kate, I think I had more meetings than I have about it.
13:32:42 Yeah, I think they're they're looking for partners, and I mean the the our financial support is gonna be the strategic planning basically to to really outline it.
13:32:51 But I think 80 to 100, and 20% was a big target.
13:32:54 Am I cool? Hmm! Alright! I will share my screen.
13:33:03 let me introduce the topic first, so wanted to let you know what's happening on the Nola France, North Legislative Alliance.
13:33:13 That's the the lobbyists that we share with Column county, and it's actually our Edc.
13:33:20 Is, that engaged lobbyists on that effort because the Edc.
13:33:25 Has been really busy and kind of overwhelmed. I have been largely functioning as the Jefferson County co-chair of that with colleen metaler, from so can show you the gonna you
know, we ended up with a couple of laundry lists general issues around housing and around
13:33:49 rural economic development that will in the form of either supporting bills that gets dropped or working with my chatman on a bill for all of the rural economic development
ones.
13:34:01 then also shared that where we landed up while at.
13:34:04 but I just show you the association of Washington City's priorities.
13:34:13 And yeah, so, just for discussion, we'd love to hear any input you have, or if there are things that you particularly want to engage on, I don't have an update on kind of what
I think of as our bill, the the point 0 9 bill that we're working on our end had us meeting
13:34:32 scheduled with their engineer for tomorrow that had to get canceled Those so funny when it rains up cores.
13:34:36 Yesterday I was supposed to meet with Kilmer at 10, then found out Cantwell was coming to town at 10, so I cancelled with Kilmer Hmm had a meeting schedule at 3 30.
13:34:46 For then can't well cancel till 3 30, and I just get canceled with there, and it's like can't keep everyone happy.
13:34:54 but we'll be setting out a strategy for the point.
13:34:57 0 9 bill with our lobbyists specifically Paul barons, strategies, 360.
13:35:05 So that maybe it starts with the more local, which is the Nola.
13:35:15 so again, just does that kind of recap. We decided on 3 3 issues to take on at Nola.
13:35:23 the first is, it's kinda laundry list of of housing issues and you'll see there's some bills associated with some of these, and some are efforts that are already being tackled,
by other organizations, that we will be supporting.
13:35:45 So this mobile home Park residents It's kind of a right, a first refusal bill, so that if Mobile home part goes up for sale, the residents have the option to purchase we know
that's an issue on the West end already right
13:36:07 and and also happening in column, currently so that we expect that bill to be revisited.
13:36:16 then we have some. You'll see. Some of these are from our housing providers.
13:36:20 So habitat for humanity. Yeah, Would that bill force the landowner who owns the mobile harm part to sell the land so if they're planning to sell, this gives the the mobile home,
owners some time and department of commerce has some resources to to help organize them to
13:36:41 see it gives them a certain amount of time to see if they can gets, you know.
13:36:47 Get get their their ducks in a row to to purchase.
13:36:51 So, if you have 20 tenants on that mobile home park, all 20 would have to There's a threshold like With Hos.
13:37:02 but I think that I think that language is still, you know, at play
13:37:10 so couple of priorities from habitat for humanity, sales, tax exemption for affordable housing construction.
13:37:19 Yeah, that's okay. Can see the benefit of that.
13:37:21 I mean, you know, years like this. It would just offset inflation, but you know it's a little worrisome.
13:37:26 The the impacts to our sales, tax revenues.
13:37:33 But and then another habitat. One is Hmm!
13:37:41 Let's see. Maybe it's in the create legal stability for planning with another habitat, one which apparently some new legislation requires that all planned unit developments
require found formation of a homeowners association which is expensive and cumbersome for some affordable
13:37:56 housing projects, certainly make sense for some, but others it does not so it's another one.
13:38:01 We'll be working on. Okay, Can you share this list Via: Yeah, Yeah, that'd be great. Absolutely.
13:38:11 so supporting multi-family tax exemption.
13:38:13 You know some of these have not been run through our our treasurer and assessor, so we'll want to.
13:38:21 Do you know a little feed? And it should say All of this is, you know, depends what bills look like this throughout the session.
13:38:30 You know a a lot more will kind of by the wayside, or bills will be dropped that we didn't anticipate.
13:38:36 But these are just some of the things we'll be on the lookout for.
13:38:38 But this list can still be revised also
13:38:44 Would that be just the state portion of sales tax, or the local portion?
13:38:49 Also I I think there's a push for both. Yeah, but it is that is, worries some unit development and headlock.
13:39:01 the amount of sales tax we'd forfeit would be substantial on that.
13:39:04 Yeah, yeah, that's true. I should say one of these got taken off this list.
13:39:10 Reduce required frequency of State building code adoption for, remember, every 3 years to 6 years.
13:39:16 There's some sense that the 3 year updates are actually often helpful.
13:39:21 Sometimes they're not, sometimes they're cumbersome, but sometimes they're it's it's actually really good, to, you know, be able to streamline or introduce you know, new new
code like tiny homes.
13:39:32 And so we don't want to limit the ability to make improvements to that code.
13:39:38 It is tricky. Things like storm water, Yeah, projects, large projects can be underway, and then have the legislation change.
13:39:48 And there's some, some, you know, like any regulation.
13:39:52 It can be complicated. But we we struck that, and I'm sorry we should've numbered these.
13:39:56 But we did strike that that bullet point. So I'm happy to share this with you, but just to give you an idea of what we're looking at.
13:40:07 And so this list was created. This at Nola, and was there a lot left on the floor?
13:40:13 The cutting room floor or yeah, there was there's quite a bit that's hard to find agreement. On.
13:40:22 So we. There was a subject of Lindsey Warren showing John Morrow and I, and we really tried to.
13:40:30 We gathered more ideas to bring forward to the group.
13:40:32 These are the ones we thought had some traction and would reach.
13:40:38 We generally try to reach Consensus and Nola.
13:40:42 And yeah, exactly, you'll see. And the the rural economic development one.
13:40:47 There's you know, some disagreement around things like prevailing wage, and so we we tried to pick ones where we had shared interest.
13:40:57 So again, condo is kind of a liability couple of bills that again are just cumbersome for affordable housing projects.
13:41:12 the Sepa. One was not I was not one.
13:41:14 I was familiar with, but I can't remember who proposed this one.
13:41:18 Maybe Portangelist.
13:41:24 I'm guessing that's a port angel one. I don't know a lot about that one I already mentioned.
13:41:30 That have a tech humanity, one. So these are things are going to be on the lookout for supporting, and you know, happy to to help those efforts move along.
13:41:40 So in this case, and we will have Josh. Weis is the lobbyist, and you know he'll be tracking bills, and keeping us up to date as they move forward and testifying So this is
really a marching orders for Josh: to say this is what I'm looking
13:41:55 for opportunities to hit these, and and he'll then analyze, you know whether they fall on the right side of these suggestions and bring it back to Nola or back to the yeah exactly
Yup, and then, we would talk to our legislators and say hey?
13:42:13 We support these, and then, you know also would, maybe be called up to testify.
13:42:20 and as a region, you know, we have a bit of a stronger voice.
13:42:23 The the 2 county. Okay, region. So I will send those out to you.
13:42:29 Here's another bit of a laundry list. There are rural economic development issues.
13:42:38 has, passage capacity come up on any of these conversations.
13:42:43 No, I I did bring it up. At Nola, and it wasn't like people just weren't aware of it in that group.
13:42:56 right? Yeah, Yeah, I think in you know, in environmental, public health, it's a known like issue.
13:43:03 But hasn't kind of hit The The folks that, alright, Nola, which is a pretty big diverse group.
13:43:10 okay, yeah.
13:43:15 okay, So go through these and just highlight a few that are, I think, have some interest this this first.
13:43:27 Well, you know what I'm gonna skip this first section, because we actually there's actually a kind of recommendation section that will be a little more.
13:43:36 Here's the recommendations to resolve existing systemic barriers, and not all of this has a legislative nexus this year that we know of but some some kind of general themes
The collective.
13:43:55 Bargaining and prevailing wage concerns brought up by the call me Dc.
13:44:00 I don't think there's consensus around getting too involved with that, just too tied to labor, and a lot of resistance from the Legislature, so I don't.
13:44:07 I don't think that we will be taking that on.
13:44:15 yeah, all of these are. And I'm showing right now.
13:44:19 Our I would not say, Hmm: Okay. So to go back again, I think my chatman is going to work with no lot to see if we could package a number of these into a bill. So we'll have
to go through the feasibility.
13:44:35 Of what does he think is is likely to move forward so a little bit uncertain kind of where, where he will have interest in digging into some of these.
13:44:44 So it's a bit of a laundry list, and some of this is pretty granular and and far reaching goes from like our employment Security division, which determines which careers are
living wage and in demand for a region and They will.
13:45:04 Only fund activities that support workforce development in those industries and which doesn't do anything, you know.
13:45:12 So local. There can be local efforts. Say to work with your community college to develop a training program.
13:45:18 But if you're not on, Esd's list, then you're not eligible for funding.
13:45:22 So yeah, there's a number of kind of streamlining efforts that we see room for improvement.
13:45:27 But I'm not sure if that granular level will make it into a bill one at the bottom one and the page here, and I'll keep scrolling.
13:45:35 but the the Dei lens basically trying to ensure that rural, economically distressed communities are included, and kind of diversity and equity issues.
13:45:54 see again fairly fairly granular one. I was some interested to see.
13:46:01 There was general agreement from the group was on following the recommendations of the Superintendent of Public Instruction removing school construction from you know, funding
that through through timber harvest, what would happen with those so that and this was this was right dallas big
13:46:27 announcement a couple of months ago. Yeah, So that the problem is that those funds are the the State Trust Land funds are used to basically be matched to local bonding efforts
and it's almost exclusively urban districts that are passing bonds right
13:46:46 now, and so like 96% of those trust funds have gone to urban districts.
13:46:52 So it's taking out you know, literally extracted from rural communities.
13:46:57 Yeah, So there's a big effort to decouple those, because it's that system is broken, or is it working?
13:47:03 As it was intended to originally. It's a number of things in here around procurement how to change procurement laws so that we can try to prioritize contractors that are local
13:47:22 You'll see a few in there. Here's our point.
13:47:25 0 9 sales tax extension. Keep working on that one
13:47:35 and this this document: we are going to be massaging quite a bit with with Chapman, like, I said, I think this is Yup.
13:47:49 That local source requirement? Are they going to synchronize that with Federal statute regarding competition, requirements?
13:47:58 And and what about So which one? Which number are you on numbers?
13:48:04 Number 8? Okay, Yeah, how about proven ability to do the work?
13:48:08 And you know things of that sort. Good call. Yup. Yup.
13:48:14 Yeah, I I maybe I'll pick your brain a little bit as we further refine this Yeah, definitely.
13:48:26 there is This includes a little bit about apprenticeship programs which have a number of Yeah, they have a number of flaws for rural areas, the one which we've taken on most
directly is the electrical journey.
13:48:43 Level So there's mention of that in here. But we actually adopted that as a separate issue, because we made so much traction last year.
13:48:48 We feel pretty close to a solution, and the cliff is coming up where all of those trainees would would no longer be able to work in rural areas to get any commercial hours or
credit towards there. Journey level.
13:49:06 So I'm sorry. These aren't in a tidy or package, you know, working in a big diverse group.
13:49:13 There's a lot like you said that comes to the table, and then yes, gets cut ends up on the cutting floor.
13:49:22 But it's it's helpful to at least have some a handful of agreed upon issues to take on.
13:49:31 So, that's that is Nola. If there's anything else they should let you know about the Nola process, and I'll send both of these to you for yeah, and you, too.
13:49:50 Caroline. Obviously, you know. Need them. Hey? Any Any questions on Nola?
13:49:57 Okay, Hmm: go to the yeah.
13:50:07 I have the how many pages is this 199 page Wasack document, if we choose to look at it. But I also have just a list of the kind of finalists for the association of counties
13:50:35 So, after fairly extensive and painful, piling of about a 100 issues, the legislative steering committee has gone through a number of voting, ranking sensitivity analyses and
this, was where the the priorities landed so and the proposal right Now, is to
13:51:05 take on. That Wasack will take on as top priorities.
13:51:09 The top 4 Yeah, yeah, So that behavioral health. Here's them here, both network adequacy and timeliness of care and and ensure the system is supported.
13:51:22 I obviously needs to be word Smith. But that concern about their being unfair, level of service and access to services, especially in rural areas.
13:51:36 so obviously a lot of interest. That was the second highest rated.
13:51:40 So those top 4 we will take on the Howasack works is we have a really comprehensive guiding documents.
13:51:51 That also, you know, as new legislation comes up, the whole board doesn't have to vote if you know if it's an unfunded mandate, then we know that the association will not support.
13:52:01 It, for example, but these are the top 4 that will be putting the most work in to what's the State and Federal Exchange swap program.
13:52:11 That's for dominantly department of transportation projects where Federal dollars are so well in public works projects in general.
13:52:21 But yes, way more so to do cultural surveys.
13:52:27 You have to do, Nepa Triggers.
13:52:31 A lot of expensive work of prevailing wage.
13:52:40 so 16 or 17 States have an exchange where they take in Federal money and swap it out for State dollars, and the State dollars go to the local projects and the Federal dollars
stay in the that are, like interstate.
13:52:55 Projects where they can be put to better use, where those triggers were already met, and keep the state dollars in the local projects.
13:53:05 It's too bad to see Lambert reform so far down the list.
13:53:09 I was really surprised, and how Joel so Paul is now the legislative acting as legislative director because he's been working so hard on those for so many years.
13:53:20 He you know So my first coming afterwards was like, Can you believe No, Gma issues made it to the top, and he said, Don't worry.
13:53:28 We'll be working on, it. And I even suggested at the meeting, Combine it, or you know, putting a bunch of the Gma issues into one into one issue, so that we were sure to prioritize
it, and that, didn't get a lot of support I was really surprised I don't know
13:53:46 if there's fatigue around Gma and Slammer.
13:53:52 yeah. Seems like there would be more than 4 priorities if there was at least 35 issues.
13:53:57 I mean. So there must be another set, like a secondary set.
13:54:01 Of, the next 5 or the next. Yeah, so. But we we decided on for, and we were open to doing 5.
13:54:13 If they was a clear. The trouble is, we can't do 6 and 5 and number 5 and 6 were tied.
13:54:20 So that's what you know. Staff will do. The hmm kind of preparatory work, and perhaps even, you know, be writing bills in in the case of some of these like issue Number 35 doesn't
have a bill yet, 10 or excuse me issue 15 probably doesn't need or
13:54:40 require. I guess I thought we had us statewide standard with integrated, managed care.
13:54:46 I thought that something we were just been working on Do you know some of that?
13:54:52 Hmm dive into the problem statement a little more sure.
13:54:55 So I I will that. Yeah, I have the 30 or the 100 page document.
13:55:02 so issue numbers 35. It'll take me a minute to get to it here, but
13:55:08 We are in order. Okay, what's the relationship between the percentage and the numerical ranking?
13:55:16 so we had number of people I'm guessing that's the number of people who maybe voted.
13:55:26 Let's see.
13:55:30 That's got that. You know that issue number 3 is the highest percentage.
13:55:34 But the lowest ranking the 13 I'm wondering if that's people who voted for it first.
13:55:44 Okay, number one priority. So these aren't relative rankings.
13:55:48 Then. Well, they are so okay. I think Number 3 was No.
13:55:56 The top issue is number 35 is the second highest. Yep.
13:55:57 These are Okay, Yeah, it's it is complicated the way it's listed.
13:56:06 What am I looking for? Number 35? If you count ties, then you know both tens make it both sevens.
13:56:15 Make it both sixes. That's why they cut it off at 4.
13:56:18 So the 2 sevens, because they could, they could do up to 5.
13:56:21 So that's what I better do. A A search here.
13:56:29 What's the rural urban Split on your on this committee?
13:56:37 let's see, So there are 6 urban counties That over is it over 250,000?
13:56:48 so man, Really, the rest are rural. But you can talk about it East, west, or red, blue.
13:56:53 Also how many? There are no 2, at least 2 counties get an extra seat, because they they pay in a lot more for their membership, so they also have an executive, I believe there
are 4 King Pierce no home. Mission.
13:57:15 Dot com I'll have another seat. So 43.
13:57:17 Yeah.
13:57:22 How did I end up at behavioral and encumbered lands?
13:57:27 Hmm.
13:57:36 This is the 9, 8, 8, Here it is
13:57:44 Yeah, we got Hmm: we're still see the list on your email.
13:57:47 Oh, shoot!
13:57:58 Yeah, cool. So anyone to scroll. Hmm Otherwise, So it'll be like that was the H.
13:58:26 that time and distance standards kept coming up like having services available in the county seat.
13:58:31 Isn't sufficient for rural counties.
13:58:48 And we we just don't aren't concerned with Non.
13:58:51 Medicaid managed care. No. So Commissioner Johnson Island County and Commissioner Gelder. It's up. So both neighboring counties were very involved with this, and both come from
a background in behavioral health so
13:59:14 They they see a real, some sort of barrier in them.
13:59:17 Medicaid provide service provided services.
13:59:23 But this is an issue I know very little about. Some happy to get your input.
14:00:48 that statement that it would be better. Yeah.
14:00:54 Although we do, I think
14:01:00 There's a lot of overlap in staff, and the affiliates, and you know gelder is on our bha.
14:01:11 So hmm.
14:01:25 Hmm.
14:01:31 So, even though it over and over recommended. Yeah, yeah. So work groups came up with these recommendations, and then the whole body voted on it.
14:01:43 But it was enough of the concerns, the whole body, that it made the top 4 interesting.
14:01:47 Yeah, yeah, and it like I said, I do think it is within the wheelhouse of Wasack.
14:01:54 And you know we work very closely with so many other state, affiliate groups, and the different Vhs are so different as well, and you know some are managed directly, I think,
by the health care, authority, or by Third party provider interesting Yeah, so I'll be learning a lot and asking you guys a lot
14:02:13 of questions. There's equity. Of course we don't have crisis stabilizations that are anywhere close Right?
14:02:21 And then a lot of scale issues that make it really challenging.
14:02:25 I think, in the small account. Yeah. Yeah. And then I thought I'd just share the association of Washington City is just because it's interesting to to compare.
14:02:43 Think this? Is it
14:03:24 be interested to know how many, how many municipal courts there are in the state kind of surprised that we didn't talk about vehicles, pursuits.
14:03:34 And the wasack yeah, And I think that's partly because oh, right.
14:03:39 Right? Yeah, yeah, they're certainly pushing for the ability to pursue.
14:03:46 I think that's been a I've been printing kits App County.
14:03:50 Horrible. Right? Yeah, yeah.
14:04:03 I was a little surprised. The Public Works assistance accounts didn't come up more.
14:04:09 that Wasack also
14:04:12 Yeah, all of these priorities seem like they could easily be.
14:04:17 yeah, lot of overlap
14:04:25 Yeah, yeah, there's there are a lot more cities than there are counties as part of the problem.
14:04:32 Here's the end of theirs.
14:04:41 I was surprised that there wasn't more in their housing.
14:04:46 Make everybody saying we want more money, but easy to say that Yeah, although the State saying don't don't hold your breath, Oh, really. Yeah, I'm just saying no really no new
money. It's going to be a very status quo.
14:05:03 Budget a lot of money in there. Yeah. Yeah. No. And I think they, you know, they're saying, Expect status quo, which is high right now this was very good.
14:05:14 Better than it's been. But yeah, yeah, the Western State Hospital Yeah.
14:05:25 So they're saying, between inflation and Western State Hospital replacement that there won't be any big new funding So anyway.
14:05:40 I I show this because sometimes I feel like we, we align pretty closely like you, said.
14:05:45 Heidi. What city needs. So I do try to keep an eye on what they're doing, and and wasack tries to not contradict. Awc.
14:06:01 and dilute. The local government voice, Hmm.
14:06:12 so it's sound, nobody said for certain, but it sounds like session will be in person this year with hybrid testimony allowed accessible.
14:06:21 Yup, the legislative steering committee will be meeting in person again.
14:06:29 It sounds like the group wants to go back to our former schedule, which is every other week, Wednesday night, Thursday meetings, so that'll be a change every other week.
14:06:43 Yeah, yeah, in the worst weather and we have an easy compared to like commissioners from Spokane County and driving over the mountain passes and we just have the occasional
mud slide and downpour I will say, the Wisek: process, I think we I was in alignment, with most of the outcomes.
14:07:11 which surprised me a little bit. The jail funding that seems a little like a stretch.
14:07:17 Knowing that this legislature has expressed every interest in reducing right people, being incarcerated.
14:07:28 So it's that I'm I'm a little confused, but you know, maybe if that could, you know, this could be an opportunity to talk about.
14:07:35 You know alternatives and more therapeutic they are, and they are nothing.
14:07:43 I don't think we're the only jail who is trouble Staffing?
14:07:48 No, no, it's very similar story from just about every county.
14:07:51 So I get that. You know, the system needs to be fixed but I'm not sure they're going after jail.
14:07:56 Funny in particular is the gonna be a real likely success, especially with the cost of capital projects right now.
14:08:06 so one that didn't rank a little bit higher which surprised me when I go back to the wasack List is one that has come up again and again.
14:08:20 That issue Number 16. It's about 7 down a juvenile detention, So that is one where there's a lot of churn right now.
14:08:29 So, the the juveniles were the definition of juvenile was changed for detention purposes.
14:08:37 So, yeah, cause you know, we understand that developmentally, that can 18 to 22 timeframe is still, you know, there's still no technically developmentally youth And so.
14:08:50 They were required to be taken out of the adult population. But people don't want that population in with the truly juvenile population.
14:08:59 Yeah, So that's an issue, you know. Of course, this there's strong push to not be incarcerating juveniles at all.
14:09:06 but then many folks, you know, a lot of kind of commissioners to believe that they should be incarcerating more should be a Yes, Yep.
14:09:19 And kind of preventive for future behavioral problems is that what I read? But I know we all live in Echo Chambers.
14:09:33 So that's when I wish I had gotten a little more attention.
14:09:38 And I know our jimmal services upstairs has a lot of strong feelings, so you know it would be, You know, as we consider how we want to do our quarterly elected and department
meetings, or if the what was the Covid meeting turns into another format getting more
14:09:56 input on legislative issues from the departments would be helpful, asks Quarterly meetings, get a lot of good feedback because everyone's tracking, you know, legislation okay.
Released. To their office.
14:10:10 So I I think that's a great agenda
14:10:15 yeah, and maybe I'm one meeting.
14:10:23 Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, and also the the funding for Brian Abbott fish barrier removal.
14:10:35 that's another one that I was surprised. Didn't rank a little bit higher, but I mean I guess they were kind of the next tier down, although I, think with the you know, bipartisan
infrastructure law has a lot earmarked specifically for like you know, I
14:10:49 mean basically says Salmon and Washington state a 100 million of the 200 million or something is very specific to here.
14:10:56 So I'm guessing that that is fairly well covered.
14:10:58 I'm surprised. I mean, it's interesting, because if you go down to issue 8 language reforms, pretty high percentage there and then, it drops off to 4.3 right?
14:11:11 So it almost seems like the first 4 or one set, but the secondary priorities really feel like those next 4.
14:11:18 And then after that, it just yeah, yeah, but I mean after there's a bunch more after this is 9 0,%, though, Yeah, So I think we just didn't bother to listen.
14:11:29 But in in yeah, they were total respondents. 23.
14:11:35 Right there. How many could you vote? So we did 2 different rounds.
14:11:40 First you could vote for 5, and they wrote it down to probably to this I'm guessing it was these, and then you. And then you got 3 votes
14:11:52 And only 23 were present. Gotcha. So so at the conference in November the Lsc.
14:12:04 Does a final vote so there's still possibility.
14:12:06 So, for example, if Staff came back and said, You know the funding for jails is gonna be just totally impossible.
14:12:14 You know they'll do another feasibility run through a feasibility.
14:12:18 yeah, yeah, yeah, where there's a lot of energy around, Say, Lamar reforms.
14:12:29 I tried so final final vote, but I I would be surprised if we ventured from those top 4 of the highest priorities, and then the other issues, like I said, they still do get
worked on and did I understand you correctly on issue number 3 you're actually helping to to draft
14:12:49 that legislation. We. So we have the How's still 1333?
14:12:56 It's funny Paul Barrett and I were talking.
14:12:59 I'm trying to remember if we dropped that in 20 or 21.
14:13:01 But that was that was our bill back then, and we've made some progress every year.
14:13:05 There's a a big hurdle for getting past that which is kind of their role Yeah, no, she is, and she has successfully gotten a number of other prominent Democrats to oppose it.
14:13:25 So that's her yeah. There's a couple couple of different.
14:13:28 We've heard a couple of different things, and I mean every year we meet with her and China like drill down.
14:13:36 So she It's interesting. In the past, she used to say.
14:13:39 Why don't you know? So we would say, like we wanna be able to bound this for large scale infrastructure projects.
14:13:46 And she would say, we should just be funding the large projects which now, with the byperson infrastructure law, like think she's gonna be even more emboldened and thinking
you know, there's money, out there just she doesn't want the so apparently the debt if if a lot
14:14:03 of countries were to bond; that apparently, that the local, even the local portion counts as part of the States as subdivisions of the State; that we, that is part of the State's
total debt which i've never heard that or seen, that anywhere, which now counties are required, to be
14:14:25 reporting the use of these funds to the State auditor.
14:14:29 So they are tracking them. Better to better understand the and they didn't have good data on how the funds were being used, and what would count against the States debt.
14:14:37 Limit. But so that is, that is one concern. And then there's I think, also what was the other I don't want to miss represent somebody else's concern, so maybe maybe I should
just leave it.
14:14:59 At that Oh, somebody else surmised. That's this was being used as a bit of a backlash against rural cause we've actually gotten for a long time.
14:15:12 We couldn't get rural legislators to support this, because it was it They perceived it as taxation and so they just wouldn't wouldn't support it.
14:15:23 Now they all support it. So there's a sense now that it's being used to be like, Well, if you won't support our bills, we're not gonna support yours, and the Democrats have
the majority so they don't, need to.
14:15:35 move those forward. Which is funny because I'm gonna be like, Do you remember who the sponsor is?
14:15:38 Do you remember? Who comes and talks about this? Every committee session we have, and there's another Oh, but one, somebody.
14:15:54 What was it? Somebody gave me a good idea, which was as a compromise, because it's it's kind of some important Democrats holding out on this that we could talk about using those
phone requiring that they be used in urban growth areas that infrastructure is put in
14:16:14 urban growth areas. So that's another, you know, sticking point between Democrats.
14:16:19 They don't want to see expansion of, you know.
14:16:22 More infrastructure outside of urban growth areas.
14:16:24 So you know, we're looking at compromises like that.
14:16:26 That we might be able to consider to. Yet that's a compromise that would work for us really Yes, I know it's yeah, hopefully not short-sighted.
14:16:33 But yeah, I mean, if that would leave out close scene and Brennan and I mean, it's a real, but we're limited. In what infrastructure we can put in laminarins, anyway, So
14:16:46 So. Yeah, So looking for ways, we can get those folks at the table, and that because Senator Office is the chair of the Ways and Means Committee, it can be hard, you know, she
gets to decide what goes up for a vote So Yeah, So to be continued.
14:17:08 Hmm.
14:17:09 Been busy. Yeah, it's been a busy couple of weeks, I think all all 3 of those.
14:17:17 legislative agendas. I just showed you.
14:17:18 We're all decided in this like within the course of 3 days. When I was like, It's the week to do this.
14:17:23 So yeah, like we all do that, and then go to budget
14:17:31 and then, you know, there'll be a lot of playing defense or offense depending what comes up.
14:17:40 rely on you guys to help Give me a loop if there's stuff that I can be doing in Olympia.
14:17:44 I know you do what you have to, and it's easier now that there's remote That was super nice over the pandemic.
14:17:51 Yeah. But if there are issues I should be bringing to Lasac 2 right now.
14:18:03 That would be helpful, and that feeds them to the the put.
14:18:09 Some partnership to
14:18:11 Which I can also show you those
14:18:20 Yeah.
14:18:23 I think that's all from me and us. So any other specific questions?
14:18:29 Oh, my mind, it's still swimming a little bit.
14:18:33 Yeah, I know that. Jamie Bond is working on something accepted.
14:18:39 So come from another. Yeah, good. Well, there's also the because that doesn't set fall under was also, or the salad waste.
14:18:53 what's that called? There's so many acronyms for the different affiliates.
14:19:00 It is a solid waste. Okay? Okay?
14:19:06 Hmm Engineers: Yeah, Yeah, she's working.
14:19:19 Okay, yeah, but solid waste falls under different groups.
14:19:32 yeah, there is. I mean, I I something I'm really interested in is the revisiting, the the solid was still from a couple of years ago that did the in custody of packaging materials,
keeping keeping custody with the many.
14:19:53 With the packaging producers.
14:19:57 It had traction and then it just totally died. But you know, just packaging. Yeah.
14:20:06 But but having it continually come down to those you know, those of us that are actually having to deal with the solid waste of the lack of recycling markets.
14:20:16 And just stop recycling plastic, and that would, you know, at least let people know bias and go use plastic You're buying garbage that is what it is.
14:20:27 But it's it's unfortunate that it has to be.
14:20:33 you know, policy at the end user instead of a little more upstream.
14:20:37 Yeah, And I guess Cloud is not recycling glass.
14:20:42 really, wow, Scoocom was willing to go different directions that they they're not doing glass anymore.
14:20:54 So that's gonna hurt. Although they're still collecting plastic.
14:20:58 Yeah.
14:21:03 swap. Yeah, take it, we'll trade out your glass for plastic.
14:21:07 £1 of pound. Did you know that we have the right to require people to disposing their garbage in Jefferson County last Tuesday?
14:21:20 Because I mean recycling, of course, is a net loss, as you guys both know, and we make it all on the the tipping field and the price for garbage.
14:21:30 So as we talk about you know, a lot of people talked about it.
14:21:32 The the strategically planning session about the desire for a place that you could drop off reusable materials and there was a great article that Al Karen's sent out about a
town in Sweden that basically took an unused mall and and made it a second hand
14:21:51 dumping ground, and they people just come and drop stuff off and pick it up and and it's great, but it's the whole financial model for our solid waste is that you got to throw
it in, the garbage.
14:22:02 And then take that to Click Atat County, and that's how we pay for everything else.
14:22:11 right.
14:22:16 like a store. Nice? Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of desire for something like
14:22:27 Even. And it's been fascinating to just see the buy.
14:22:31 Nothing Movements take off, too, and stuff that you'd never think somebody would want.
14:22:35 People post things on there. I'm like, who would want that's garbage, and then, you know, 5 people are like, Please it's just what I need for fire, starter, or you know, some
I'm curious.
14:22:50 Yeah, I think it was dryer, drier. Lens was someone wanted dry?
14:22:55 Yeah, the New York Times had an article about it, and dryer lint was one of the things that is like people keep, and then give away, and there's always a lot of interest For
what? Purpose?
14:23:07 what that was for. Yeah, an allergy bomb for me.
14:23:16 If you wanted to drive me into sneeze
14:23:26 Environmentally friendly. But yeah, you never know.
14:23:30 Wow, It's early guys, so calendaring we should just calendar right?
14:23:39 Oh, I had one thing words in. Yeah, We have 4. I forgot to list one thing I did last week that I wanted to make sure.
14:23:44 I announced I went to Jaybat, the Executive Committee, for the first time in a little bit, and the sign up is now open for many of the Grant areas for fiber for for the Pd.
14:23:58 So if you are in quilting or discovery, bay or garden, or Marathon Island, any of the residential areas that might get new fiber basically hardware up to the house is free for
the first 60% of the people.
14:24:16 So sign up now, and you get on the list, and that's you know, incredibly fast Internet for half the price you're paying for anything right now.
14:24:26 So 65 to $85 a month, and you know, terabyte symmetrical, I mean, it's just It's amazing.
14:24:38 That's great. Tell your friends if they're in the area, they should sign up now while they can.
14:24:48 Quilseing Discovery Bay Marstone.
14:24:50 Look at the Jefferson Pd. Website. Carol you should sign up.
14:24:58 yeah.
14:25:06 And they're going for some more like how are they?
14:25:10 Gonna get the word out about that. Well, I just did. No, I mean they They I think they're gonna.
14:25:17 They're just gonna send another card out if you go to their their website.
14:25:20 Of course, and they they really I think it was a big issue at the Symposium.
14:25:25 They had a couple of weeks ago. I couldn't find anywhere
14:25:34 fiber sign up to now open yeah.
14:25:41 That works. Yep. Jeff, Pd. Org
14:26:00 yeah, no eagle mats on there.
14:26:02 Okay, you can just click in your address in the on the fiber project map.
14:26:09 Simply enter your address into the search field, the apple zoom to the location color zones.
14:26:16 I will tell you if you're in it. There's one or 4 yeah, good for towns and only for business sign ups.
14:26:26 And so you have to have a ubi number. Construction will begin in 23.
14:26:32 Hmm: Okay.
14:26:41 Okay.
14:26:47 Who wants to look at their calendars first? I can hmm Someone with a gun entered the column.
14:27:04 County, Court has yeah.
14:27:12 Let's see, Oops, my calendar tomorrow.
14:27:19 Watch this Bocc special meeting at the Mrc. I'm presenting at the Mrc.
14:27:24 And special notice that what are you presenting about the put it on partnership?
14:27:31 Oh, great. Okay? Well, that I have tomorrow. Nothing, nothing scheduled. So I'll get that.
14:27:38 This letter, drafted for the washed out tomorrow and finish my fence, and then let's see parks and Rec.
14:27:49 Was canceled this week, but I do have. I'm going to talk to us.
14:27:53 We'll seeing class about civics, and then we have on Wednesday, and we have the developers meeting, for we're Seth Haven on Wednesday, and then I am interesting.
14:28:09 On Thursday I am taking the Alice training that that Heidi truck last week, and we have the Olympic area agency on aging meeting on Thursday.
14:28:20 As well. On Friday we have, as I mentioned earlier, a third week in a row of Jeff Com.
14:28:30 Hopefully the to approve a budget and then I'm going to the optic meeting on Thursday.
14:28:36 The Olympic Peninsula Tourism Commission for a little bit before the Alice training and I forget what they're talking about.
14:28:44 But I think it might be washed.is on the agenda.
14:28:50 There, too, and then house America, open office hours On the seventh.
14:28:55 I'll probably go to that, and then I'm leaving town for friends Fiftieth birthday bash Friday, and I try to come back fairly early on Saturday to attend all the festivities.
14:29:09 Going on. You know the Ev showdown at the chamber as well as the 100 and fiftieth anniversary of the East Jefferson fire and rescue so I don't know.
14:29:20 Morning after a friend's fiftieth. I said, I'm gonna try to.
14:29:24 I'm Also, I was going to take Stacey, but she is having surgery on Friday, so my, I'm gonna have to come back quickly on Saturday, anyways, just to Yeah, more help or wash your
hands on things I don't have that Yeah, elbow this time.
14:29:44 and that that's my week. It's pretty pretty light week.
14:29:51 This just realized. Monday is indigenous, People say, Oh, next Monday
14:29:59 yeah.
14:30:03 Yes. Proclamation requires a lot of outreach.
14:30:16 Oh, it is already on the calendar or on the agenda planner.
14:30:18 Yes.
14:30:23 I could stew my week. We have a meeting tomorrow morning.
14:30:30 Another planning meeting for the public health presentations I'm doing later in the week in Minnesota, like I said, the juggling of legislative delegation I'm not going to see
Congressman Kilmer and missqually which is nice it actually freeze
14:30:52 me up to go to a service for Nancy.
14:30:58 Berry's mother passed away, who had been a guardian, invite him here, and served in many important roles, and the volunteer professional volunteer in Jefferson County.
14:31:08 So send that tomorrow a meeting with David Timmins Mark, tomorrow.
14:31:14 We're meeting on other stuff, but just care. You brought up some trouble with that audit.
14:31:21 I don't know if we wanna well like develop the solution to that problem.
14:31:24 Wow, yeah, how to how to manage the details I have yet to sort that out.
14:31:32 But revenue, sharing monies can be used for any governmental purpose.
14:31:40 So we're gonna relabel those money and call revenue sharing. And so now we now have 378 in General Arpa available Okay, So when we have our discussion, on November the Seventh
the spreadsheet will reflect that shift that will
14:31:55 find a use for that
14:32:04 then meeting with Senator Cantwell. She's coming to tour the ports project Jedi replacement, but also tucking economic development.
14:32:13 then presenting to the Jefferson, Mr. C. Tomorrow night, before a very early flight in the morning.
14:32:21 It's gonna be painful. So gone in Minnesota, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and I don't think I'm gonna be able to do any other meetings like we're we're getting shepherd around
to a lot of different events that I don't feel entirely
14:32:36 Inc. Control of my my agenda. So there is an Edc.
14:32:42 Board meeting on Thursday morning. I don't know if anyone has interest in attending.
14:32:48 Oh, good. Yay, that's right. You're anniversary trip.
14:32:56 9 to 11 Thursday morning. Virtual? It is.
14:33:02 Yeah, well, I I mean, I could tend from not to 10, if it's of interest.
14:33:08 yeah, let's send it on. I'm happy to do that.
14:33:11 Okay, thank you. I will let them. No, I fly back early Saturday morning. Also.
14:33:20 Don't know if I will be back in time to do any events.
14:33:26 sounds like that The East for some fairy rescue.
14:33:30 One goes later in the day, so maybe I'll be able to do that, and I have to be back for homecoming and I'm sure my daughter does not want me.
14:33:41 There. But yes, will be around. Yes, yes, so I'm in the corsage, honor, and who knows?
14:33:57 So I I can't win If I weren't there she'd be mad.
14:34:02 If I'm there, I'll I We'll do something wrong with it.
14:34:05 That's parents. Okay.
14:34:20 Hi! Some of our team is working on the little study we're doing right now and then on the forest.
14:34:27 We say they want to know what's been going
14:34:34 noon, doing 7 pavement, or oh, good. Yeah, Haven't been there yet.
14:34:40 looking like real real apartments at this point. Yeah, that'll be fun.
14:34:45 And then in the evening, the Rc. Meeting. Okay, where the work is packed into Wednesday, meeting with Mark and Mallory on the Jefferson County Forestry study Wednesday morning,
Mark and I are doing Budget planning at 11 strategic Planning Rp review the team at one J Jta Finance
14:35:11 committee, at 2, and then I'm leaving and I'll be gone until have a great trip.
14:35:19 Call in on Thursday to the Dnr Taxi district meeting
14:35:31 The end of the week. Nice hmm! So
14:35:39 next week or not, Let me think on the horizon, looming
14:35:48 Mark, do you want to talk about your week? Sure? Hmm.
14:35:51 And then he's of course, today, with the board all day tomorrow I've got a senior management team meeting 9.
14:36:00 Then a risk management committee meeting with 1030, then at noon the seventh Haven tour.
14:36:07 I'm really excited to see the inside of that building.
14:36:09 8 18 meeting at 2 o'clock, and then a meeting with Michael Mark to do a final review of the community.
14:36:17 Wildfire, protection, plan, grant Application Wednesday.
14:36:23 Meeting with Mallory along with Heidi, and then agenda prep.
14:36:29 And we're gonna look a couple of weeks out since I'm not here on the tenth, the seventeenth or the 20 fourth.
14:36:39 then the strategic planning. Rp. Review. I think. Heidi, I'll do a virtual on that one, and then I'm meeting with with Judy Shepherd to go over the the budget document that
you now.
14:36:53 Have in your office all 3 and a half 4 inches of it. Oops.
14:36:58 I just on Thursday nothing on Thursday we can attend the administrative things, and then on Friday special Board meeting, 8 o'clock.
14:37:14 I believe that's right in early, and then that's Jeff Con.
14:37:22 What did I said? You said a special board meeting which was accurate.
14:37:25 Yeah, that was accurate, But I left out the Jeep compart.
14:37:28 no, a recurring meeting with Apple to talk about public health. And then I've recurring meeting with Matt Court, to talk facilities
14:37:38 Right, and then, when you're gone 3 weeks, on the tenth return, the 20 fourth and Monty will be actual.
14:37:48 Actually I returned the twenty-fourth first day in the office.
14:37:52 The twenty-fifth, and money Uhinders will be acting.
14:38:00 Sounds good
14:38:01 Anything, anything looming on the horizon that anyone wants to talk about.
14:38:06 I know one thing we talked about a while ago.
14:38:09 I think, Bill, that we canceled the November 14 Commissioner meeting, because that's still
14:38:19 Yes, I need to get signed up for that. Anything else
14:38:33 Rooming. I'm gonna be out November 20 fifth.
14:38:38 I can't remember if that's a budget.
14:38:52 I can't remember if we have a we do have a meeting, hearing a budget, hearing It's usually the first first Monday in December, and then you adopt on the second Monday.
14:39:04 Okay, good. So I won't be missing it. But I'll I'll still be able to attend virtually attend that meeting Virtually
14:39:14 We have that whole week. And then, at some point, we need to discuss what
14:39:26 Normally the board takes a week off, or on Christmas, Christmas and New Years Awesome plan to do that this year as well, so that would be another meeting on December 20 Sixth
It's Christmas Holiday anyways cortex closed on 26.
14:39:43 Okay, then it would be the 27 thing we would.
14:39:45 Oh, Yeah, Hmm: circumstances. Allowing of course, circumstances allowing
14:39:57 Yeah, is that one. We usually wait to cancel like, make sure, we pass the budget Yeah, after we pass the budget.
14:40:06 Then we cancel it. A reward Right?
14:40:12 hmm.
14:40:20 Yeah, here. But I
14:40:29 Okay.
14:40:36 Yeah, that's a good country for a minute.
14:40:43 okay, Well, there's nothing else on Calendar.
14:40:46 I can go over some of the boarding commission vacancy.
14:41:58 okay.
14:41:59 I'll see that. Yup. So there's our current.
14:42:04 Vacancies. We're doing good, Billing. Some of the gaps, but some of them are kind of one, not district specific.
14:42:17 But county, wide, and then noxious. We districts are different, too
14:43:47 just need hang on a second
14:43:57 Not even me.
14:44:00 Working now but us. Oh, can you hear me
14:44:13 we got someone on the ferry advisory committee right?
14:44:15 I thought so. Oh, I think I heard of different applicants.
14:44:23 Well. It has to represent the business community Oh, maybe that's okay.
14:44:30 Yeah, somebody who relies on fairies for commercial activity.
14:44:33 Gotcha: Okay, And I did have a good afternoon. So good, I well, yeah, maybe not.
14:44:40 Well, I I I have a district 4 noxious weed board applicants that agreed to take the place I was applying for but I don't think he's turned it in.
14:44:47 I said I would collect the 10 signatures necessary, as no, he I did get him on the the the house already board, but he said no more board, so I can't get any more easy wins
like that so I know that.
14:45:01 Owen French is interested in being replaced, and he's Marist Stone, Shimmakum and Port Loveo. That's 2 district 2.
14:45:11 That's like one of the 2 that we have. It's we have 2.
14:45:14 We have 2 new. We board members, Sarah Fairbanks from District one and Christine Hika from District 2.
14:45:22 She lives. And so Owens, interested in being replaced by somebody from Mirrorstone, shimmer, or Port Levo, and then 4 and 5 Olympic and West End is 4 and 5 is quilting in brennan
Those are both currently vacant.
14:45:36 And i've got. I've got someone that said he would apply for District 4.
14:45:40 Okay, tastefully. Name also named Greg. Okay, And I'll look for someone from District 5 to I. I've asked a couple of farmers down there, but I'll work on District 3 Okay.
14:45:54 Okay, Parks and wreck Board. There's one vacancy in District 3, and that is Commissioner District 3
14:46:05 last couple of people, I'll I'll keep working on that very advisory committee.
14:46:09 Kate, are you gonna follow up with your Okay, O 3.
14:46:16 A. Has 2 vacancies. My Advice Committee
14:46:23 I don't know if there there's like 3 from each of the counties.
14:46:31 Remember Board appointed by. There's no geographic limitation.
14:46:39 There's Advisory Council members from all the counties right?
14:46:45 And I think I don't think all 4 are from Jefferson County.
14:46:49 Okay. I'm not sure I'll get details about that.
14:46:53 and public Infrastructure Fund Board. We have a vacancy, 2 2 vegans.
14:47:02 Oh, they can see a district 2 and a vacancy in District 3, and I have a ideas for my district.
14:47:10 2 folks, and I don't know if you have any ideas for your district district 3.
14:47:14 But I will follow up with my 2 people. I had some ideas that I reconsidered, but I'll I'll I'll push some people.
14:47:21 Yeah, and I'll work on that. And I know that Liz Honig Keninsky just resigned from being the Mrc.
14:47:29 Alternate for district, and she was one. Okay, So does that.
14:47:36 Does that our C. Like to do recruiting themselves? Or do they?
14:47:41 I don't know. I don't know.
14:47:44 I haven't I encountered a vacancy on Mrc. In my short 10 year as a Commissioner in our special meeting tomorrow.
14:47:50 Maybe we could. One of us might remember to ask, Okay, Okay, yeah, that's how how to deal with the vacancy.
14:47:57 Okay, Okay, So those are our vacancies. But we're doing better.
14:48:03 And I would just say, in terms of weed board and we have a new coordinator and 2 new board members.
14:48:08 So alright. I feel like it's on. It's on an upswing. We'll get it filled out.
14:48:13 Yeah, Okay, So is there anything else that we wanna talk about this afternoon? Hey?
14:48:20 What happened to the district. One I can't remember, who got appointed.
14:48:26 It's still open. Not district one or oh, oh, did we just put burn back on it today?
14:48:36 Well, but we we've had that vacancy for a while, District one, and I can't remember if we when someone new see
14:49:00 she was district one yeah, at the same time.
14:49:10 I was glad to see that taken off the list, but make sure I'm not forgetting someone
14:50:01 hey? Anything else? Call for? Add on agenda items. Oh, do we have public comment listed with the legislative.
14:50:12 We did. Okay, we have any. I'm like.
14:50:22 yeah, well, it's all Oh, okay, If there's anybody on our joining us this afternoon as an attendee who would like to make a public comment about our legislative agenda discussion,
that we had a bit ago you can use the raise hand button at the bottom of your
14:50:42 zoom, screen.
14:50:45 Anyone's interested in talking about legislative priorities
14:50:54 These are priorities for the State legislature, and any federal issues that people may
14:51:06 Not seeing any hands go up. Haven't seen the attendee list change that much.
14:51:13 So I'm gonna close public comment on legislative priority
14:51:20 Anyone with us on the attendee list interested in being on any of the boards and committees.
14:51:24 We just discussed You can use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen and we'll get you signed up.
14:51:33 We have the noxious. We control board parks and wreck very advisory committee, Olympic Area and Aging, and the Public Infrastructure fund, board Okay, Okay, Anything else.
14:51:52 in the room, mark anything else, gate.
14:52:01 I think so. Do we want to talk a little bit about the the end of the month, and and what we wanted to do with our time, that we've had that aside for I put our health, updates
so can I make one more advisory board update just from looking at agendas we
14:52:22 have We're on the 6, when we maybe are having a meeting though, we said, cancel it in my agenda.
14:52:27 calendar. We are interviewing a candidate for District 3 for the one open position for parks.
14:52:35 Right? Okay, awesome. So alright. Can it be part of a larger discussion about the October 30.
14:52:48 First, Dave: Good: Oh, okay, I need some leads
14:53:06 New York that yeah, Yeah, I'm actually really bad with K costumes.
14:53:14 I'm either like, don't do customs or I'm all in So okay, okay, do you want to just tell them what the famous Carolyn
14:53:25 Oh, okay, yeah, that's not an open public meeting, but that's one of the time they figure out the theme on the day.
14:53:40 So I can't remember what what triggered it, Carolyn.
14:53:44 It was a certain meeting we were talking about the the recension of the Health order.
14:53:50 Yeah, I'm trying to think, though, that how I started talking with Home Sucker.
14:53:55 how we worded. Okay, yeah, no.
14:54:01 But in. So I want to talk a little more universally about that end of the declaration of emergency by the Governor.
14:54:16 so talking about another meeting requirements, I can't remember what it was, and decided that we really need to do a schedule session on in on a Monday with Key and apple, and
talk about how we want proceed with a number of things see So we have
14:54:36 our We have a local state emergency, declared We want to maintain that which would allow for virtual meetings to continue.
14:54:46 You know be out of out of sync with the State.
14:54:49 we have employee policy to consider how many changes are parts of that, And we were talking about doing that on the tenth, so that we still have the coordination meeting to
run it by any change.
14:55:07 So you want to departments before the end of the so some of our like leave options and everything.
14:55:15 It's constant. That Yeah, exactly. There's a lot like when you actually think about I mean, yeah, it's probably 4 or 5 decision points that we yeah, first sorry So separate.
14:55:27 From your question, I think Dr. Barry really wants to go to once a month.
14:55:31 Yeah, no. But this it wasn't just that But at this broader conversation, like, what do we have to do to get ourselves in line for?
14:55:39 At the end of the month, including. Yeah, So tends to talk about our own emergency.
14:55:48 oh, yeah, no, October tenth. Sure.
14:55:51 Yeah, talk about it. I do right. Why, it's bye from our conversation today, it seems like October 30. First. There's a little soon to in some of the stuff.
14:56:03 I mean, a lot of the things, and one many of our our boards are still doing just virtual meeting and want to continue to use just virtual meetings.
14:56:11 So I guess I'm in inclined to to let our versions go longer, so we can have hybrid meetings.
14:56:19 But well, that's great. Yeah, People don't.
14:56:26 We just have to provide a location for borrowing.
14:56:34 Okay, they can be. But I think there's some boards that don't want to give do that, but just want to stay home, which wouldn't be allowed
14:56:45 You would need to provide a physical space for them? You could do them just via zoom They wouldn't have to be AV So like that's really neat difference if they are opa, required
you have to provide a physical space.
14:57:08 Hmm: If we would send our state of emergency. Yeah.
14:57:15 Good policy when you guys okay, that smaller boards can be state statement driven by the State.
14:57:27 Yeah, I think the tenth would be a good time to talk about it.
14:57:30 So that's next week to get scheduled.
14:57:34 I think you were gonna work on scheduling with no, not on the agenda right now with Bill and Apple not on the agenda.
14:57:41 Yet but it will be added so tenth or 17
14:57:51 So that'd be
14:57:55 Emergency declaration related to that something.
14:58:00 Caroline and I talked about is, Do we want to get first?
14:58:03 Look conference, room that are set up for hybrid meetings.
14:58:08 Also another space, All the pressures on this one room I think it would be a good idea.
14:58:16 an hour. Zoom right. I like that other Yes, fair enough.
14:58:28 Nice provide that room Yeah, and keep our stuff here. So Mark, is that something you would do if I If there's an interesting getting first floor conference room set up with
an owl and that's something you could Work with it on.
14:58:47 An hour already. Yeah, we already mentioned
14:58:54 So? Would anything else be needed up there? My screen. Have one whiteboard that can be used.
14:58:59 I know, you know. Maybe. Oh, so if you have the hybrid meeting you and So they have to broadcast on that.
14:59:14 The zoom screen. Gotcha
14:59:21 But if you have a whiteboard
14:59:29 this is long term. We'll just another one of these.
14:59:33 Yeah, I mean, it just seems like this is, gonna be how we do business.
14:59:36 Now? Yeah, we can't only have one room. But does that
14:59:48 sufficient for that whole room of mind
14:59:56 Anything else that we need to sit on the agenda for that session on the tenth, going through our declaration of emergency.
15:00:05 Really thanks. Walking through that and our 1213 temporary policies
15:00:18 Oh, so, Sarah! Thank you.
15:00:27 Now, Mark's gonna be going away because we're gonna be doing
15:00:39 We know my will want not want another mask, Mandate
15:00:48 what else any other things on the horizon that we need to plan for, or Hmm.
15:01:03 Else. Today we are planning to thirty-first off as a fifth Monday is that
15:01:12 We're we're hoping Halloween up.
15:01:21 Oh, Wow! That's it. That is, that is tempting.
15:01:23 Yeah.
15:01:31 Okay, So costumes might not be safer. Okay, Hmm: Okay.
15:01:47 no, I don't think of anything else. Okay? Well, there's nothing else.
15:01:53 I'll adjourn this October third, 2022 meeting of the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners.