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09:00:59 It's nice to all be together, this morning and as we do each Monday morning.
09:01:04 We'll start off with public comment if you've joined us on Zoom, please raise your hand.
09:01:12 Using the raise hand, Button at the bottom of your zoom.
09:01:14 Screen, see a number of folks there if you'd like to make a public comment about anything, this morning, we do have one member of the public with us in the room so I will invite
him to make a comment first and then start with folks, on Zoom but you can go ahead, and get your hands up if you've got
09:01:31 Something to share or a question to ask, so Sir, would you like to come up and make a comment
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09:01:47 Okay, so you need to talk right into the microphone. So the people online can hear you Hello, Hi.
09:01:54 Okay, yeah, I know, this is kind of and prompt on my part of it.
09:02:02 So kind of a last minute thing with the budget Revisions that are you know.
09:02:11 Maybe possible we have an existing situation. That has existed for quite some time on Shine Road.
09:02:18 You within your area, where the road is actually disappeared and it's narrowed.
09:02:27 Down, now to one direction only, and it's not visible to see people coming from the other direction, in vehicles speak, limit is down to 25, miles an hour which is ignored by
those taking a shortcut to try to get to the head of the line when
09:02:43 The canal bridge is closed. They don't respect that 25 miles an hour at all you've got approximately a 100 Families or thereabouts living in that Area, many of them Use, that
as a Walking Path, their Families, including Children, in Baby Buggies, and You Can't
09:03:03 See around at all. And they're ducking traffic down there with the up and coming I'll round about at the end of one O 4 it's going to Create all Kinds of additional problems,
currently Google, actually, tells People, this is the Way, around the the Backup and so that Adds, to the
09:03:25 Problem with the Up and coming project. It is going to be an absolute nightmare, because the other end, the west end of one of of Shine road.
09:03:35 You can't see traffic coming from the bridge, you're crossing a line of highway that has got they're all doing 60 70 miles an hour.
09:03:47 And it also was where Tel Lakes Intersects.
09:03:50 If you're giving a visual on that so directing people.
09:03:55 That direction, without some kind of traffic, modifications is going to present even more of a problem.
09:04:01 This problem has existed for 2 years, and it's my understanding from talking to Neighbors, especially recently, that they've been told that due to its the Ka Kavians it it it
turns out there's a lot of Permitting that is necessary probably if we're, environmental
09:04:23 Reasons, and that we're basically waiting for it to be completely gone.
09:04:28 Which would eliminate that part of the problem they won't have to file paperwork.
09:04:35 They can deal with it as an emergency. My problem is is, I don't want to see a car, or a a woman or a man with a baby buggy, or a school, bus, be present when that road gives
away and I don't think that the extra traffic on that road, that we're
09:04:55 Going to see, starting this spring is going to do that road.
09:05:00 Any good at all, or the community any good at all. 3Â min there it's very dangerous, and I would hope that your prioritization would include the Health and safety of that community
it jim's imperative that you have a priority prioritization, process at least at this Level, that transcends the Internal
09:05:24 Politics, of Departure requesting. That's your time, limit.
09:05:28 Okay, thank you very much for your time, you're going to be hearing from other people.
09:05:35 Thank thank you for being here this morning, we appreciate your input
09:05:38 There was a hand up Ron, H. You'll need to unmute, and you'll have 3Â min for pro comment.
09:05:45 And if anyone else wants to make a public comment. Who's on the Zoom Room, please raise your hand, using the raise hand, Button at the bottom of your Zoom, Screen, right your
hand just went up
09:05:56 Okay.
09:05:58 Good morning.
09:05:56 Good good morning, my name is Ron Hildebrandt, I am the President Current President of the Shine Plat, Homeowners Association, which is right at the Corner of When Meredith
Connects, to Shine and We're on the Same subject what we Don't
09:06:14 Know, I. And I fully support all of the ideas we need to not only mitigate, the roundabout, but the traffic impacts.
09:06:24 Caused by the delays that will occur in the during construction as far as I can read and in touch to people, there is no real mitigation plan of saying Hey, are they going to
just back up one.
09:06:41 O. 4, are they going to try to divert traffic, data downshine road to get around some of the Construction, and whether or not Residents for the Area, Will, turn Left Off of
the Intersection of Paradise Road and Shine Road and come all the Way down Shine, because there is no
09:07:05 Left Turn Lane on the West end of Shine Road, where it connects to highway, one of 4 and it is purely insane to try to turn left at that intersection, when There's Cars coming
up behind you at 70, miles an hour because 55 is not the the average Speed
09:07:22 So everybody comes down shine road from that end of the traffic zone.
09:07:26 So I am encouraging somebody to take a look and try to mitigate how we take care of traffic coming in and out of the neighborhood, the residents of our Ho, have concerns that
depending on mitigation, when they
09:07:43 Come down, Shine Road, and they find that it's Blocked, or it's a one.
09:07:48 Way street that they'll end up dumping down into the Dead End road down Meredith, and They'll be turning around all over the place in in the community, so I Appreciate all your
help and and at least let Us, know who to talk to and who we can work, with on an
09:08:05 Ongoing basis for for this construction, because it's just not the State.
09:08:09 It will affect the county as well
09:08:14 Thank you, Mr. Hilda brand, we will respond to all of the comments.
09:08:19 We've received this morning. Once we receive all the comments.
09:08:21 So is there, anyone else with us on zoom this morning, who would like to make a public comment?
09:08:28 If so use the raise hand, button at the bottom of the zoom screen.
09:08:33 I don't see anyone on the phone, so and I don't see any other hands going up
09:08:40 So we can we'll leave public common open as we do until 9. 30.
09:08:44 If anyone joins us late or has an issue, they'd like to share but for now, let's just respond to this one issue, and who would like to kick us off with response to this I could
take a first swipe at it so we've heard a lot about shine road over the
09:09:05 Years it's a definitely a problematic road for a number of the reasons you pointed out
09:09:13 I think it would be great to get our public, someone from public works to to to respond more fully, whether that's in writing, or in person, at a future meeting,
09:09:23 But, the the the issues, there that you've outlined are well known to the county I do see that we have on our transportation improvement program, list, which is our prioritized
list of projects the Shifting Approximately 4,000 feet of Roadway 10 feet away from the bluff as a
09:09:43 Corrective measure, following the 2,021, storm, and that it says secure status secured, is that funding or right away.
09:09:50 Do? We know which what status means in this new interface?
09:09:56 Yeah, I thought it meant funding, too. So anyway, we it sounds like the repair is is being planned, and and somewhat imminent.
09:10:08 That of course doesn't address the speeding issues which we've heard a lot about, and in my 10 year in the last few years Lowered, the Speed Limit Accordingly and you know There's
a hope that the roundabout will Alleviate some of the safety concerns washd
09:10:24 is building that because of safety concerns. I see you shaking your head, I know there's there's strong feelings about roundabouts, but the the data Does support that it does
improve safety outcomes.
09:10:38 And yeah again, I'm, I'm no traffic engineer.
09:10:41 So I don't wanna get over my skis here.
09:10:46 But yeah, I think it'd be great to to see if we can get public works to to respond just because they do actually
09:10:55 They'll be able to respond much more more thoughtfully.
09:10:59 I just I just sent Monty. A question, too. So maybe maybe we can get our county engineer to to respond directly this morning, I'm very conscious of these issues, as well, and
you know, saw it, on the on the transportation improvement plan you know we don't usually step in Front of the road
09:11:20 Planning Process. But have heard about all these issues, including the the Google algorithm which I know that the roads crew has tried to impact in our unable to impact and
we've we've looked at ways, to do that of course when it's at A when Google is is diverting people
09:11:36 To that road. It just can't it can't handle that amount of traffic.
09:11:39 And you guys are absolutely right about the the impacts there, I know, I mean, we've talked about this.
09:11:45 When we talked with with washdot about the big roundabout, project, and you know there was just another fatality at that intersection in the last, month, you know, and and stopping
the the Perpendicular Impacts, is Going to be is Going to Save Lives so it I Do hope though
09:12:02 I'm also of course, not a road, engineer, that the Roundabout ultimately will improve safe E.
09:12:08 Gress and ingress to shine road. But we should get you know I I don't wanna speak for the Roads Department But They've, you know I was I was here as well, when We lowered the
Speed limit to 25 miles an hour in response to kind of the last time, the community came out
09:12:27 I have an idea that this is probably brought on by the Roundabout work, being more imminent.
09:12:33 Now right now, and I think that being a vocal stakeholder is, is the county's job, as we do control 2 of the Insects into that roundabout as we go into this this project, this
come and fall I guess so We'll, we'll keep at it hopefully
09:12:49 we'll get a response from from Monty about
09:12:53 What if anything can be done, and kind, of the timeline for that number 15, on our transportation Improvement Plan, but we're yeah, it's it's good to hear about the the acute,
Issues, of the Problem right now, and you know, we take it seriously, and want to preserve that that
09:13:10 neighborhood, for for its residence. More to come, and I would just add to Mr.
09:13:14 Hildebrandt, and to you here in the room with us, if you can get us your email addresses, so that we can get a more speedy response to you, because otherwise, it'll come up
next week, at our meeting but if you can good is your contact information, we can work with our county
09:13:31 engineer to get you a response more quickly than that. just a little more.
09:13:37 Information it does look like it's a fema funding that has been secured for the road, Movement, away from the Slide Damage.
09:13:47 So that is has been secured. This year, that might be the distinction between them is going to be emergency mitigation but that is still emergency funding even if it hasn't
happened yet so does sound like it is in process but that timeline is right date.
09:14:02 The Instruction.
09:14:07 August, 2423.
09:14:15 That would be. I think
09:14:20 It's only a 2, $220,000 project.
09:14:22 So it's more than that. Yes, you don't do anything for $220,000 anymore.
09:14:29 It seems no, especially, not on road. Okay, I see Jean Paul is with us in the room.
09:14:36 Jean, you'll have 3Â min for comments
09:14:41 Yup.
09:14:39 Good morning. Can you hear me? Terrific I missed the first part of the Comment made about Shine Road.
09:14:52 But if I understand correctly, Commissioner Dean's respons, about the Roundabouts.
09:14:57 Is something I wanted to provide a little clarity on at a recent event in Portland, Ludlow representatives Thereinger, and Chapman were talking about the the proposed roundabout
at the West End of Hood Canal, Bridge, and they said that Dots has Scrapped that Round about
09:15:19 plan due to the Complaints of Truck drivers who come across the bridge and are headed westward and they need to build Momentum to get back.
09:15:49 Thank you, Jean
09:15:53 I have not heard that have either of you. Nope, no, I heard a lot of that.
09:15:58 That the concern about semi is coming to a stop and then having to go up the hill. but I washed out did not seem swayed by that what i've heard we'll try and get clarification
on that too.
09:16:11 Is there anyone else who's joined us on zoom.
09:16:13 We would like to make a public comment today. If so, you can use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen
09:16:22 Don't see anyone on the phone, and Mr. Hildabrandt.
09:16:29 We only allow, one, public comment.
09:16:40 You're gonna be able to put your email address in chat, and we'll copy it down from there, allowed allowed public the use of chat for that purpose
09:16:52 Okay, any other comments this morning. I see. Normally chatty people, not raising their hands.
09:17:02 So, but that's just a. Okay, if you're feeling you haven't enough copy at the same
09:17:09 So we'll leave public common open until 9. 30. In case someone has joined us late or a comment emerges.
09:17:20 But is there anything for the good, of the order, that either of you, wanna
09:17:25 I I have a couple of things that have come by a comment over the last week.
09:17:30 Go for it, one is that I had a few folks reach out about missing Dr.
09:17:36 Barry's Weekly updates, and so I reached out To Kpd Z and asked them because you'll probably recall that we in one conversation with Dr.
09:17:46 Barry in the last month. She said she could do more updates.
09:17:50 So I reached out to Kptz about adjusting the frequency of those updates, and they're fine with it.
09:17:56 If we do it Monday in the same time, slot, Dr.
09:17:58 Barry's fine with it, and so I thought we should just discuss here.
09:18:03 Since case counts have been going up and feel like we have a more complex virus scenario happening right now,
09:18:13 I just wanted to see how you guys felt. I thought maybe adding a second like every 2 weeks, update, I mean, people feel like, I've gotten a few emails, when people are really
missing their weekly, weekly, Dose of Dr.
09:18:26 Barry, but I didn't know how you 2 felt about that I personally felt like it.
09:18:32 Was getting so repetitive, and not a great use of Dr.
09:18:36 Barry's time, because so much Material had to be repeated. Kind of the context.
09:18:42 Every week. we do have the Board of Health Meeting, also which you know maybe we could look at the Timing and see if we can get those space, every 2 weeks apart because she
does do a report there, but i'm a little concerned about pulling her away.
09:18:57 From other important work. when I don't know week to week how much is is changing.
09:19:04 But I think there there was diminishing value towards the end. There that I would love to see her time go to other work personally.
09:19:14 I don't have a I kind of miss my time with Dr.
09:19:17 Barry, too. But I don't disagree with Kate that it it seems getting a little performative you know it just isn't the best use of time, I'm not sure you know I would.
09:19:30 I I guess I wouldn't be opposed to twice a month.
09:19:34 Is there you go
09:19:37 I don't know through the fall winter. I guess until I mean I don't know I'm I the swing vote on this one I don't know well I don't know if I have.
09:19:50 A vote, I I I just have heard the feedback from the community and Don't know if you guys have heard any of that feedback, we got a public comment on it.
09:20:01 Via email trying to see. So this month she will be the nineteenth and board of Health.
09:20:09 Is what day the it's kind of the same week.
09:20:14 So yeah, we wanted to align it. Good for health, we do first week, here, and third week at Board of Health Cause, that's a different time of the Day.
09:20:23 It's the second, week Board of Health is second, oh, no sorry it's third Thursday.
09:20:28 It happens to be a different week, this month. Yeah, so yeah, it is too bad.
09:20:34 That they're so close together. wonder if like could we do it because keep it easy?
09:20:43 Could also broadcast the Board of Health Update. If we set a regular time and you know we could do it at the beginning of the Board of Health Meeting, they were Lobbying for
the same time.
09:20:54 Slot, on Mondays, yeah
09:20:59 Well, I think I think a conversation with Dr. Barry about the the cost benefit of that might be helpful.
09:21:06 Did do. One of you want to talk to her, or do you want me to I'd be happy to. I gotta talk to her this week, about the agenda planning for the board of health, anyway.
09:21:15 So I can talk about all of that. That'd be great on Wednesday.
09:21:18 Okay, and the other item, I have that I've gotten from 2, people is a follow-on workshop, from our Forestry workshop, on the Carbon, and Dnrs, Payment, Approach and that Request
came from both Peter Bales, and he Takala, So Just, Wondering if you Guys.
09:21:36 Are open and setting up a follow-on as part of our Monday Agenda works up on that specific question, and then at some point also maybe after that we need to how have a discussion
about what kind of communication, We want, to get to Dnr about the carbon.
09:21:54 Program, because they have a closing public period, comment about that and and then also other thoughts that have come up out of the the Forestry workshop, kind of debriefing
that feels like Feels, like 2 Workshops, one specifically, on Carbon Calculation, and one and it could be the same Day it could
09:22:15 Be back to back. I feel like it has to happen this month.
09:22:19 If we're gonna give them feedback. Well, they've given us.
09:22:23 They've given us Lee Flex on feedback, and I I can.
09:22:28 I can follow up in that to the end of the year
09:22:33 Maybe on the twenty-seventh. So we have 2, more meetings.
09:22:36 They've had some changes in their program, the finite carbon is pulled out.
09:22:42 For now, so there's been big changes in the Carbon Project so I don't know how that's perfect gonna affect their timeline.
09:22:50 But I can ask all I got. I can ask Saraug in their trust outreach, specialist who reached out to me and see about timing and then also work to work with mark and the Team to
get a workshop, on the Calendar in the next Couple of weeks if that works that Sounds, good
09:23:09 To you, guys, sounds sounds good. We need to debrief. We didn't really have a chance to talk about the the Workshop, I don't know but it'd be great to kind of figure out.
09:23:21 Where we are after that first, workshop prior to having another, workshop
09:23:29 Well, maybe we might well, maybe we'll have a time this afternoon, or maybe this morning.
09:23:34 Even after consent. Haven't been there so
09:23:42 I'm happy to hear the high points. You, both.
09:23:46 We have and we have a, we have a, 900, and 45 hearing.
09:23:49 On budget, mid by name, review, and modification. So we have.
09:23:55 We have a pretty Packed Morning, so this afternoon, just a couple of Zacks, Right Yep, We can do it this afternoon. Let's let's Let's do that this afternoon.
09:24:10 Okay, those were my parking lot, any any other folks wanting to make a public comment this morning,
09:24:20 You can raise your hand, using the raise hand, button at the Bottom of the Zoom Screen, and Mr.
09:24:29 Hildebrandt, we do see, your email, there, and we'll work with our County Engineer, and Roads, team to get response to you about what we know about the shine, road, situation,
and then if you can leave your email, was your name, Dwayne, Dean, Crawford, okay.
09:24:51 Okay, Commissioner, you should have an update, I just over to you.
09:24:56 Okay.
09:25:00 Right, or any other. I'm not sure if he heard the questions at the breadth of them.
09:25:08 Hmm.
09:25:17 When it impacted the Round About, one or 4, and and they do plan to close the east end of Shine road during construction
09:26:14 Good Morning Commissioners. I just Chat is not able, but I can see People's Faces moving, but We Can't hear on this side. Sorry
09:26:24 Thank you for scheduling other workshops and things.
09:26:46 So pretty. It's very predictable yeah few minutes in to every meeting.
09:26:28 Really appreciate all that extra effort, so important thanks
09:26:52 Patricia? Can you hear us. Now, just check.
09:26:55 Yes, now I can hear
09:26:56 In, okay, okay, we just have to just reset something.
09:27:01 So you said that
09:27:01 Lost. We lost about 5Â min. Yeah.
09:27:05 But the the transcripts were coming through the whole time. Yes.
09:27:10 On my zoom, I don't have the transcripts enabled.
09:27:13 Usually they show up. But I don't see them
09:27:15 Okay. Thank you
09:27:22 We were talking in the last few minutes about the Sign road situation and get emailed response to Dean and Ron, about what we know what we hear from our county engineer, and
our Roads, team, so we will do that after this meeting and then I made one final call for public comment and you didn't probably
09:27:45 Hear that so if anyone wants to make the last have the last word in public comment mark this morning you can raise your hand, using the raise hand button at the bottom of your
Zoom screen
09:27:56 Okay, not seeing Any other Hands go up. So I'm gonna close public comment.
09:28:02 You've already had comments, my dear. Hmm.
09:28:08 Okay. let's see so we are gonna close public. Comment.
09:28:15 We already responded about the shine road. We're gonna respond.
09:28:19 More, via email, when we know more and Dean, I'm gonna give you my card.
09:28:25 So you can send me further comments, too.
09:28:31 Okay, so do. We wanna, consider consent agenda, sure.
09:28:37 Anything that anyone wants to call out on consent agenda this morning
09:28:44 Let's See
09:28:48 All Good Stuff, the I want to see the Footage of Course, and then Remotely Operated Vehicles, Exploring the Kelp Beds on on the West End.
09:29:01 I always like the exciting tech projects. Yeah, said to see Roger Hall step down off the Direct Advisory Board he's been on for a long time.
09:29:12 And very helpful. Think he was there when I started 6 years ago.
09:29:17 So yeah, lot, of volunteer, Labor and Machinery, I'm not sure what they're gonna do without them actually, just Marianne still, staying, she provide some institutional history,
yes, great to see the Cultural resources.
09:29:33 Assessment happening, for Olympic Discovery, Trail
09:29:39 Yeah, icg was for another year.
09:29:46 Yeah, good stuff. I'll move that we proven adopt the consent Agenda as presented.
09:29:54 I have a second, all in favor, bye, bye, consent agenda passes unanimously.
09:30:02 Okay, we're still before 9, 30, so we have 15Â min, until our hearing our mid by name review, and modification.
09:30:11 Anyone want to do Any briefing from Last Week. Sure hmm.
09:30:18 Oh!
09:30:21 Alright, I guess let's see right here, together of course on Monday, met with some environmental Public Health Staff on Tuesday, working on some new a new kind of Housing Instability
Project and Environmental Public Health really Exciting, I I had a Briefing with Director of the Salish
09:30:52 Opioid, Sorry, the Salish, Behavioral, Health Administrative service, Organization, about the First Opioid Settlement and more are coming quickly.
09:31:00 And the rules are just still all over the place. You know we did an ila, to the 3 counties denial a saying, we're gonna let Salish, Administer the funds they still, haven't
seen any rules for it and now There's you, know Kind of an opt out to allow
09:31:18 Counties, or cities to directly apply for it, which is just kind of counter to everything we've all already said so they're just still trying to play catch up went to long live
the Kings hood Canal Bridge Management, Committee meeting updates as we discussed they are looking
09:31:40 For Well, they've got. I think they've got funding, and they're gonna put one of those fillets in which are kind of the to stop the the High Mortality Rate of the salmon there.
09:31:51 Basically, Taking, those Right Right Angle Corners and just putting a bumper in them to to prevent the Eddy motion.
09:31:59 So We'll see how well that works. That's where fish get kind of stuck.
09:32:04 And then.
09:32:11 Oh, you can eat so they'll see how that works they're doing a study now of adults, they've tagged a bunch of adults, Chinook.
09:32:22 I think Steel head January, so do they doing, some mortality studies on adults.
09:32:29 There, you know, they are still of the mind, that the best solution would be replacement of bridge and they are going to look for not state, but Federal planning dollars to
that end but they are very skeptical realistic, probably a likely a short term solution.
09:32:49 Yeah, we have the Budget Committee meeting. I'm sorry okay, budget.
09:32:56 Meeting. We were all at I don't think anything.
09:33:00 I popped out at me there, housing fund. Board. We approve the 1590 Rfp.
09:33:08 Which needs has a deadline of December 20 first, and has the same Criteria, that the 1 48 and 100, and 49, housing Rfp.
09:33:19 Did so. We will we'll get all that by the end of the year, and hopefully make recommendations or approvals here on our Decem or January, the third Meeting offer both the 1 48,
1, 49, Rfp, and the 1,500, and 90 for All
09:33:36 The Housing and Homeless Dollars. I'm sorry I missed that by the way, and I wasn't sure if I told Carolyn, that I wasn't gonna be there, we knew that you weren't, yeah, you
were okay, in transit at the time Yeah.
09:33:47 Thank you, We had no quorum issues. we the Workshop Forestry was was really engaging.
09:33:56 Good good work, that's happening, especially like the Update, on the Community Forestry, and you know reconvance was was mentioned again, and and some of the you know and probably
Inappropriate place so you know it's the first time that Reconveyance seemed At all Viable to
09:34:12 Me to do on Thursday. We have the Olympic Area 80 on aging meeting and I'll also going well, there very Healthy Budget, like many of the Organizations, that We Work with Still
have you know Arpa Dollars and even though There's a much Higher, Ratio
09:34:31 Of of Case, Managers, to Home Health Care, workers it's The Budget is very healthy going into the next year, I met with the Engineer that's Working with the Hood Canal Salmon
Enhancement Group, On the quilseine Flood Plains, Project on
09:34:49 Thursday and they have their approaching final design for that work and are going to look for some they're gonna look, for some support from us, I said that we could probably
have them out, the Engineers, and Hc seg in early January, or February I think but they
09:35:08 Are looking to get permitting done by June, and they are putting that bridge right?
09:35:14 Where the existing bridge is over the big quill.
09:35:16 There was talk about, some different routes, but they're just aligning it with the same one, and they've got a nice wide sidewalk for that interpretive, path, you know that
the account man for quilting is working on because they've got a 7 foot wide
09:35:32 Pedestrian Walkway on one side of it, which was great to see they I.
09:35:39 Jeff Chapman filled in for me at the Portland Low village Council.
09:35:43 As I was triple booked on Thursday afternoon.
09:35:46 Gave them an update which might turn to be an annual update, because they really like getting this information from them, about the the the tax assessments for the past, or
the property, assessments for the last year I had to miss the Parks and advisory, Board meeting, because once once a year is at the same
09:36:04 Time, as swack, so went to first Swack meeting in a while being a conflict, we're deep into the capital planning for Sure Solid waste.
09:36:20 I feel I can't. I know and that was it was great.
09:36:24 We have a new chair. There, Lisa and she did a great job.
09:36:29 And you know they've dealt with a bunch of challenges.
09:36:31 The New hours. There was some some real, delays, those first days that we closed the the transfer station on Mondays, for residential customers.
09:36:44 But it's now it's kind of into the flow of it, and the impact seems pretty minimal and Staff's really excited about the opportunity.
09:36:54 To have. You know training and work on Mondays, so Capacity Building and the strategy of that seems like it's working really well, so far Let's see on Friday, I was invited
to meet about the Olympic Terrorist 2 and some other Projects with the Pla meeting
09:37:14 With Dcd. But it was quickly determined that the Planning work that they're going to have to do.
09:37:21 There is a type, 4 permit and will probably come in front of us in a why judicial Approval.
09:37:32 So I'm sorry which project was that that's Olympic Terrace which is the Second Part Up by Tee Lake Road, and everything no it will okay, and that's Moving Forward there has
some There was Kind of some hanging Chaz Left in the Plateau, from 2,000
09:37:51 And 5. Basically, that's as far as we got before we discovered that I should step out of the room.
09:37:57 So I don't know a lot about it.
09:37:59 Yeah, and then
09:38:03 I guess that was with our prosecutor. And then you know, holidays stuff over the weekends.
09:38:13 Did, our own Christmas lighting and moved, the pigs, and went down to welcome Santa Down at the Quill Scene School, and then came up for Art Walk and watching the Christmas
Lights Down Downtown Port Towns and on Saturday Night and went to the Celebration of Life for John
09:38:31 Bolton, at Worthington Mansion on Sunday.
09:38:34 That was great, and some great old stories from loggers and and and ag folks and did you know how long he worked it was on the the conservation district 35 years, 55 years,
55 Years I've got here, Number 4 So Great Great to Hear some Stories.
09:38:58 And Represented, and and Thank John for his service, and you know every time we spoke.
09:39:04 He was always just a steward of the land, and the best possible. Sense.
09:39:08 So I'm honored to be there and say a few words for him and that was my week thanks Greg
09:39:15 I'll go let's see so with you, both on Monday virtually can I start out one thing, sorry, i've always forget that some of the only Cap stuff is on my other.
09:39:26 Calendar, so it doesn't show up. But I did want to report a little bit on it.
09:39:28 Got the final art for seventh paving is coming in and 7 pavements moving along.
09:39:33 You can see? It's got color, and looking like a like a real place.
09:39:39 We're We're kind of through all, the money, basically, it's, it's kinda it's gonna barely Glide in it's like when you, Coast into the Gas Station, with No Gas Left, is, how
it's Going to be but Seventh, Haven or Casual, Brown, I wanted
09:39:54 To report really quick last Monday, as I reported was the first day that they were opening for other people to enter through Coordinated entry and they had 17 more folks, no
families yet but 17 more folks have Applied and are are moving into causal brown phase 2 so Showers
09:40:14 Are going and and stuff. To what? 30? Somewhere? Now it's up.
09:40:18 It would be 15, yeah, it'd be 33 and and so they're still taking applications.
09:40:24 And can you know 40 slips I think the tiny shelters from community build, are coming this week, too.
09:40:29 So it's really, it's really getting fleshed out this way.
09:40:32 That will stop sorry, that's all right.
09:40:38 So I joined you virtually on Monday spent Tuesday in the Us.
09:40:45 Senate, which was really interesting, the respect for Marriage Act was being debated, and ultimately voted on which actually does have some impacts locally at very much affects
how States can Response to different internations of of what Type of Marriage is Protected by the Federal government so Fascinating
09:41:09 The Senate, is the Most Frustrating, maddening voting process I can ever imagine.
09:41:16 So inefficient, and it made me feel like we do things so much better was really shocking.
09:41:22 How their process for voting, every single amendment.
09:41:26 They it would take an hour to vote, because that all the senators leave, and then they give them an hour to come back in and just put a finger up or down like why don't you
just stay, put ridiculous and you know it's designed so why why don't they
09:41:42 Just stay, put I don't. They all are free to go back to their office, and it's because they you know when people are when senators are testifying, when they have the floor to
speak they go on and on about unrelated, like it is I I get why, they can't stick around for
09:42:00 All of that, because it's actually kind of Abused really
09:42:05 And so you know people will will use that as a delay.
09:42:08 Tactic to delay a vote, and run it into the you know we hours of the morning and so there are allowed to leave and did they go back to their Offices and I'm sure sometimes they
are actually like debating, with you know trying to come up, with compromise, or
09:42:27 Amendments, or something. In this case. It was not everybody.
09:42:31 Knew how they were voting like it even took can't well, 45Â min to come in and put up a finger, which like the whole thing
09:42:43 Annoying so, but but fascinating to watch and really exciting to to be there you know, in interracial marriage, very important to me for obvious reasons, is also protected in
that act so it, was inspiring to to see that little bit of history being made and the senate gets so
09:43:04 Little, done these days. That it's actually cool to see them pass something Wednesday morning.
09:43:13 We had a budget committee meeting, and so we'll be hearing a lot more about the budget here in 2Â min.
09:43:18 So, I'll be quick also had a meeting to finish our planning for the newly Elected officials training which is in Olympia.
09:43:25 All this week shall be down there part of the Week working on that
09:43:31 Then had a maddening, probably 15Â h travel, to get home from DC with travel delays on the Seattle end.
09:43:41 So ended up screwing up my entire plan for the day and evening.
09:43:45 Thursday had an Economic Development Council Board meeting.
09:43:50 I don't think anything of notes there, No DC, meeting also
09:43:56 This time of year seems like you know, there's not kind of dramatic things happening.
09:43:59 But good work happening with both of those, organizations, did not go to the admirals Reception Thursday Evening, because I've been up all Night, the night before Flying Home
Friday had an Mrsc Board Meeting also Kind of a Year-end Recap of all That's been
09:44:15 Done we got the recommendations for the rightiparian habitat, that we have one more Opportunity, the Roundtable, that I am a part, we'll be finalizing those Recommendations,
later this Week i'll get them to you and then set the weekend, at Sun
09:44:34 Katia, and a bipartisan governance and leadership, Fellowship Fascinating, deep, dive, like being back in grad, school.
09:44:44 Yeah, yeah, but lots of philosophy and ethics, and but but bipartisan you know, like Rob Mckenna, and Bob Ferguson, there hanging out teaching it was really Fascinating, so
half Republicans, have Democrats, although We Couldn't, talk, about anything, Partisan, so really good
09:45:02 Experience and that will continue for the next year. We'll meet a number of times, over 3 days.
09:45:07 Yeah, do this work. Yeah, honor to be invited.
09:45:12 So that was my week. Okay. Well, I will tell you what I did my week.
09:45:15 I felt like I had a juicy week last week, so I'll tell you about it.
09:45:18 Later, and we are going to have a hearing on the mid.
09:45:26 By anym review, and modification. So for the public, we should call out that we're talking about the budget yeah, it didn't say on the hearing, yeah, that this is actually the
budget, it's, a really important piece, of work and arguably, the most important work, that we do so
09:45:44 I'm gonna open this hearing on the mid bionium Budget review and modification and we will first he get a briefing from staff, Judy Shepard, our seeing your Finance staff, has
joined Us and Mark Macaulay They worked Closely, Hand-in-hand on this Project
09:46:02 So and we'll hear from them, and then we will open it up for public testimony.
09:46:08 And if you are testifying because this, is a hearing you will need to identify your name, and where you reside.
09:46:15 So but first, We're gonna hear from staff. Okay. Thank you, Commissioners.
09:46:21 Somebody's having trouble with the door hopefully.
09:46:23 No, we gotta open that. They were just closing. Oh, okay.
09:46:28 Sorry I was wrong. They just wanted it close, because we're being noisy right.
09:46:32 Too much fun. Yeah, and it it is unlocked.
09:46:36 And we have a sign welcoming folks outside so Commissioners.
09:46:40 This is a public hearing on the recommended 22, 23, mid by Annie and review, and modification.
09:46:47 Oh, you might remember in 2,019, the Board approved the migration to Biennial Budgeting, part of the Reason for that being a distressed financially Distressed, Rural County
a Biannial Budget Allows, Staff to Spend Less Time on the Mid-*, and Review, and
09:47:06 Modification than they would on a full blown by any of the or annual budget, and essentially what we do is take the budget that was adopted by the Board in December the Twentieth
21 and we modify.
09:47:18 It based on new bargaining agreements with our Labor, Unions and with new grant information, and other information that wasn't available when the Biennial Budget was adopted
sitting to my left is our you know Heidi keep saying She's a new Commissioner and I Don't know how long I
09:47:37 Can say that Judy Shepherd is our new, finance manager, but in my mind she's still new, and I think.
09:47:44 This is the first time she's at this table for an annual budgeting public hearing, so with that I'll I'll move into the presentation I don't expect this to take a a huge amount
of time so we'll do the budget presentation, and then we'll
09:48:01 open it up for public testimony, and then the Board may direct changes to the to the recommended for the Final or ask questions that we can work on and then answer on Monday,
the twelfth and at the bottom there it says Adoption tenitively is Scheduled for December
09:48:22 twelfth, but it it will need to be adopted by the nineteenth, if not the 12
09:48:29 So These are interesting times, the depth of the Pandemic.
09:48:36 I think, is behind us. as evidenced by the fact that Dr.
09:48:41 Barry's only visiting with us once once a month.
09:48:45 Now the Pandemic is still with us, however, as evidenced by the fact that my wife came down with it on Thursday, Night, and of Course others have it.
09:48:55 We have a number of significant staff, members Senior Staff that are out with that with Covid as well and all of that put Extraordinary Demands on our Public Health Department
and on our Emergency, Management Department at Bo Stepped up in a huge Way, and continued to To Help Protect the Citizens of
09:49:14 The county, but I must also commend the board all of our elected officials, our senior managers in our workforce, and of course, our citizens.
09:49:26 This has been very difficult for virtually. Everybody in Jefferson County and
09:49:31 I thank. How do you feel? At our hospitalization rates, our death rates, and so on.
09:49:37 I think we cope with the pandemic as well, as anybody in the country, and when the Pandemic, Hit the county had to reinventure how it?
09:49:47 Does business. We move substantially to trying to provide online services for people.
09:49:53 So they didn't have to leave their homes and come to the courthouse to transact business, and you can see with the Zoom. Meeting.
09:50:00 We have now even though we are a allowing folks to participate in person, we are still using hybrid meetings.
09:50:06 Largely, and when the state of emergency is lifted in the county I'm not sure we're gonna change that I think it's a new way of doing things, and we also have a number of our
Employees, that are Working remotely and We'll continue to do.
09:50:21 So and so sometimes change has to be stimulated by adverse events.
09:50:27 And certainly this pandemic qualifies Now the the Mid.
09:50:32 By nam review, and modification. I say it's largely status quo with minor increases, and the reason, I say, that is that Virtually everything in this, mid by any review, except
3 items that you'll see in a moment are the results of decisions the Board has already made retro
09:50:51 Pay,
09:50:53 Retention paid for Corrections, Hiring Bonuses for Corrections, adding 2, Sheriff's Deputies in the Courthouse Eliminating the Contract with Ppc many of those Resulted in in
Cost Increases that we added a Communication Specialist at Half Time, we added a
09:51:14 Database, Manager and we've added other positions around the County as Well and however, the 23 Budget is actually lower than the 2022 Budget, Considering the the 22 Budget
through the third, Quarter Appropriations, and although and on the Flip
09:51:35 Side though revenues are increasing, so I think we're positioned well with this mid by any I review and modification I might also mention that the county has has reaped a huge
windfall of Federal Revenue through not only cares in 2.
09:51:55 1,000, and 20, but the American Rescue plan, act that thus far has resulted in about 7 and a half 1 million coming to Jefferson county,
09:52:03 With another, 1.692-00-0000due next year. So we're approaching the 10 million, dollar mark in Federal revenues, related to the Pandemic, not counting cares.
09:52:13 If you had cares were at about 11.8 and well, I'm on this I I just want to commend the board for the decisions that you've made regarding those funds and in my Budget message
that's hosted with this agenda item I do list.
09:52:33 Those for the benefit of the Viewing public, now elephant in the room is 40, year high inflation of 7, and a half percent which is complicating everything we hear about people
wanting Road, Projects done but Construction Inflation, is even higher than the 7.5, and with a Limited
09:52:58 Local, money. We have for roads, it's it's very difficult to attend to every every priority, and our our public works.
09:53:06 Department does a fine job of leveraging the money they do get into grants, so that they do a very fine job of maintaining our roads, and Undertaking capital Projects, and then
finally, the last pull, it, I believe there's, consensus that a recession is on the way,
09:53:27 When I say consensus, it doesn't mean that it's unanimous.
09:53:31 It means that the bulk of people who apply on matters such as this believe a recession is coming.
09:53:37 And I think the county is well positioned to whether that recession, and so with that I'll dive into the numbers.
09:53:46 So, what does so the charge does. It's got the general fund, which really is our main concern, because we have so many departments competing for general fund dollars, and then
of course we have 58 other funds, that have dedicated funding for specific purposes and and those budgets are
09:54:04 Well Managed by the Budget Managers in the county, that that manage them but on the General Fund side, you can see that the Left Column is 22 through the third quarter, and
then the Middle Column is the Recommended Budget for 2023, and then There's
09:54:21 A percent change column, there. And those in the 23 numbers are through the third quarter of 23, right no, no, the 20.
09:54:27 3 numbers know that there is no third quarter for 2023, so it's it's just.
09:54:35 It's saying little Year Budget that's the full year budget, which will likely be amended through the Supplemental Process.
09:54:42 This year, but I can't see into the future to put the third right. No, I thought you might have just given the twenty-two-year-old year with appropriations just adding the Third
full Year Very full year. With Appropriations okay, okay. Through the third Quarter That's Helpful.
09:54:58 Clarification. Thank you. So thanks for the questions, because if you didn't get it, maybe the public didn't either.
09:55:03 But you, can see there revenues are predicted that row by about 4, which is a Healthy growth rate, and then Expenditures are down slightly from from the Modified 2022.
09:55:17 Budget, which is a good thing, and then you can see the fund.
09:55:21 Balance does drop a little bit however,
09:55:28 The Ending fund, balance for 2022, and the Unreserved unbalance.
09:55:33 Those are projected, not based on budget. Those are projected based on actual expenses.
09:55:38 We see to date and what we believe will be expended through that the second invoice run in the thirteenth month, and so the 2,023 ending fund, balance and the unreason fund
balance, do not Assume any Understanding and we always have carry over so I'm
09:56:01 Expecting, that ending fund balance in 2,023 actually to be higher than this
09:56:08 So those negative change, numbers although you know, 32% of scary number.
09:56:15 I think, what we get there. It won't be anywhere near 32%.
09:56:18 Hey, mark while we're here, can you also address it it's often worrisome for the public to see that our expenditures are greater than our revenues.
09:56:26 Do you want to talk a little bit about that right and discharge here.
09:56:29 Kate, will address that, but revenues typically are true to form that if we project revenues in case in point, would be sales tax we budgeted for I think regular and optional
5.1.
09:56:46 1 million now we're gonna come in about a 100,000 off of that however Special purposes coming in higher.
09:56:54 So when you net those together we're gonna be point 2 below the budget on the expenditure, side, though because of vacancy, since we Budget, every Fte, fully, the minute you
have a vacancy, You're, Saving whatever the Salary and Benefits, are for every Month, of Positions.
09:57:12 Vacant and we always have vaccines. They just shift around and currently I.
09:57:17 Think we have 15 vacancies, 11 full Time and 4 Part Time, but we've had as many as 26 in 2,022, and and so that tends to Result in under under Understanding and so if We understand
according to Past, history, even though we're Budgeting
09:57:38 25.6 8 million. We'll probably only spend 23 and a half or 24 in the back.
09:57:47 Now you'll see some big number changes here, 2,023 recommended Budget.
09:57:56 There are a couple of things that you'll see in the detail.
09:57:59 The Hadlock Sewer is is helping drive that construction and renovation is is helping drive.
09:58:08 That and so we're we have some extraordinary things going on in the county that are driving those increases and like, I said, before we have very capable Fund managers, and
we have a reserve policy and so we're funny managers have to manage funds so that they
09:58:26 Comply, with that recommended Reserve policy adopted by the Board in 2019 oh,
09:58:33 Any questions on this line, not that I haven't already asked.
09:58:37 Thanks. Mark, okay, So, so this is our typical chart I've eliminated some lines to simplify it because many of those lines.
09:58:47 Don't add any benefit to the to the people that are watching or who read these documents.
09:58:53 So this is about. As simple as as I as I can get it.
09:58:57 And one thing, you'll notice Commissioners is every previous model has predicted, not gloom and doom, but has predicted a fairly significant reduction in Fund balance over the
5 year period.
09:59:12 That was never an accurate depiction of the future never happened and I've attempted to depict the future.
09:59:18 Quite a bit. More accurately here, and I'll still be in town.
09:59:22 If these numbers don't happen and a 10 hulk, I'm just come visit oh, you might still be in your job.
09:59:30 So, so I'm very happy with what W. What I see, coming and
09:59:36 You know, we're seeing 9% increase here over a year and sales tax and so that this projection assumes less than half of that and you saw in the budget that were in revenues
are increasing at about 4, and and this assumes.
09:59:54 The the same, Growth, and We're fortunate our Employees aren't but our the labor agreements that we end into all had a 9% increase, and then except for 2 in the Sheriff's Office,
then we're, followed by 0, and 0, and and so this
10:00:11 Budget is seeing the effects of the 0. Hey, increase for our employees.
10:00:17 Yeah, as we enter a new collective bargaining cycle in January, we'll have to come up with parameters.
10:00:26 For you to consider regarding 2425, and 26, so okay, okay, to move on thank you.
10:00:34 So I mentioned that 99,% or greater of the Budget, as a result of Decisions.
10:00:43 The Board has already made. These are increases in the Base budget for the general fund.
10:00:49 Only 3 of them, and one of them, is correction of an error in the original 2223, budget, and we erroneously remove 6,000 from the treasures the budget for clerk higher, and
and above, that when we Hired, Willie's
10:01:12 Assistant who was extensively going to be a volunteer coordinator Who's quite a bit more qualified than that and Will do many other things in addition to coordinating volunteer
in order, to and like we're having to do in many cases, We we're having to make better
10:01:30 Offers higher up the Step, Ladder to get people to come here, and she moved from Texas and based on her Exceptional Qualifications.
10:01:40 We boosted because we budget, for step one usually with new positions.
10:01:47 Okay, but to get Anna poseki is who I'm referring to to get her here.
10:01:53 I felt that necessary to offer her a higher salary, and and that's what that is and then finally I think you've seen Matt Taylor's charts on Park utilization this is a Very
modest, increase in the maintenance Budget and you did Add an Fte to
10:02:10 Parks, Maintenance, as well, and that person needs supplies and what not.
10:02:16 To keep our parks in tip, top shape, and
10:02:20 Yeah, and at some point, I think, we need to talk about adding new parks, and it might revolve around some of the Forested land That Commissioner, Eisenhower is working on so
Diligently okay, so the Guidance you put out, about don't ask for it if you
10:02:35 Can help not ask for it. I I think our staff should be commended for not asking except in these cases, until 2 of them are no brainers, and I would argue that the parks request
is a no brainer as well.
10:02:51 Okay, this this is a, we show, this every year. It doesn't change.
10:02:56 But but I just want to remind folks that we have paid down our debt, and we have a debt capacity.
10:03:04 Hmm and starting in in the winter, which is it?
10:03:11 Starts in what 3 weeks, or 2 weeks, actually after the start of the New Year Chris way, is going to assemble a a capital, planning Committee and We'll be Coming to the Board
in Conjunction with the 2425 Budget and the Development of our
10:03:27 Strategic plan, with the plan to use some of this debt Capacity to improve our the Situation for our Employees, I Mainly at a Castle Hill, We've moved 6 Employees Out of Public
Health Across the Parking lot, into Newly, Rented Sp Well, not Newly About 2 Years
10:03:47 Ago and for additional staff or moving into public works area, that preventive medicine nurses, I.
10:03:55 Guess 4 of them, but with the Foundational Public Health Funding, they're going to continue to add staff, and we're probably gonna have have to add staff, and Dcd, as well,
and and so by Looking at the Place where we might be able to move public works, Out, in the Headlock, somewhere in the new
10:04:15 Facility and that would address the County Space needs for for decades.
10:04:20 I would think
10:04:22 So.
10:04:27 I tell you, I got a look at this to see I've got these little things on my screen.
10:04:33 Okay, so, challenges and opportunities some of these, we've covered our already.
10:04:39 The first, 2, inflation at a 40 year high and you know we down at the bottom, we talk about continual structural funding problems.
10:04:48 Well in 2,021. The inflation rate, I think, was 1.8 and We're Limited to 1% on property, taxes, plus new construction.
10:04:58 So if new construction is a percept, and we can add a percent, and then inflation is 1.9, then we're staying, we're staying pretty level, but it's 7 and a half we're we're losing
5,% at least every year, and i I think there might be some
10:05:15 Signs that inflation is moderating. If Gas prices are beginning to come down although in Port Townsend, we don't see that quite as quite as as much as others do
10:05:27 Bullet, Number 3 Competition for Employees, you know when we increase compensation by 9% and then 0, 0, city of port, towns, and went 5, 5, and 5, and we gave our employees,
an extra step and that got them, to 11, and a half so we're still 3 and a half behind with the
10:05:45 city, did, and and then of course neighboring counties, are paying their correction, Staff retention bonuses, and Hiring Incentives and credit to the Board we have Followed
Suit although the Amounts We're paying are less than what our Neighbors, pay once again, because we have 32,000
10:06:10 people kits that has 200,000 plus and clown is what 75, 80 and so we're doing the best we can do to to remain, competitive and then of course, American Rescue, plan act Funds
the Board still, has a substantial Amount of of those Monies, yet to
10:06:30 dedicate there are other needs in the community.
10:06:34 I got a request from Betsy Davis from the Votes School.
10:06:38 She would like to have some of this money for for an initiative, and that, and we have another workshop on that any any requests of that nature will be brought to your attention
10:06:51 Then of Course, the Award Winning Intergovernmental, Collaborative Group Continues I think the Board recently approved the Resolution Continuing that through December 31 23
I I Think, this is a a a Real Example, of Local Governments, Collaborating and Cooperating
10:07:13 on issues of major concern in the Community Sustaining Sustainable Forestry, what the County has done already?
10:07:23 I think is laudable, but there's so much potential to do more and
10:07:29 Oh, this story is now being written and I don't know.
10:07:33 What chapter we're in I think, we're towards the front end of that Book, but I'm hoping that we the remaining chapters of that book are going to be as good, as the first several
and then I mentioned Chris Coy and a Capital Committee, That's what this
10:07:49 Bullet, is capital, projects, and property management, I think the Cat the Commissioners know we have 300 parcels, and Hmm.
10:07:57 We need to understand why we own them, and then begin to dispose of those that the county doesn't need, and they could be returned to the tax Roller, and then the Road Fund
continues to labor with funding shortages, the Secure Rural schools Program, used to bring Public works, over a 1 million Every
10:08:18 Year, and now they get a combination of kilt and srs, and and the Board commits to a certain amount, every every Budget, Cycle, but it falls well Short of what they used to
Receive, now what the Board did do, to Help Eliminate, that Funding Shortages, to Reduce, the
10:08:38 Diversion, property taxes away from the road fund into the general fund for traffic, law Enforcement the Board reduced that from 720,000, and 21 to 672,022 and it reduces, and
additional 52,000, and 23 Down, to
10:08:57 600 and as we prepared that 2425 budget.
10:09:03 We'll have to have a discussion about whether the general fund can afford to reduce that to 5, 70 from 6, 20
10:09:12 Then of course mentioned the number of times already as a Structural Funding issue for Counties.
10:09:21 So there are a number of things that we have to keep in mind.
10:09:25 When putting the Budget together resolution 38, 22, is the goal and Objective Memorandum by the Board for the Preparation of the mid Biennium Review, and Modification, of Course,
the 12, Year Old Resolution on Special Purpose Tax and then 41 19 and
10:09:45 setting minimum Recommended Reserve Amounts and I can say that all the budgets that are in the mid by any and review, and modification do meet the Minimum Fund Balance Required
10:09:57 And so now we have a series of tables,
10:10:04 Hard to read these, and I have no idea how to
10:10:11 Let's see when I'm in full screen mode, I can't modify what We're seeing.
10:10:18 Oh, yeah. So I have a keyboard with next to me. Here
10:10:25 Oh, I'll come and talk about oh, yes, this was on the test.
10:10:35 The the presentation is is not online. Yet it will be following today's proceedings.
10:10:44 However, these attachments are in my budget message.
10:10:48 There that were posted along with the Agenda for this Morning.
10:10:53 So all that information is available online
10:10:56 So this, essentially, it takes that chart at the very beginning, and blows it up.
10:11:05 So that all the individual Revenue sources are are highlighted
10:11:19 And you can see that sales tax we're, not assuming 9% increase
10:11:30 We're trying to be conservative and how we budget.
10:11:34 I mean, if I recall correctly, the interest was super low in 21, and with the you know that's yeah, kind of Follows along with Inflation, right?
10:11:43 An interest rates that are, as they're going up exactly.
10:11:47 So this, I guess, reckon that $320,000 budget amendment. Just recognizes that that's an area of revenue is going to continue to stay high you think in 23 okay.
10:11:57 Yeah, in fact, if you have idle cash cds are pretty good then you know you and I've talked about that.
10:12:05 So I'm gonna move on to it expenditures.
10:12:13 So most notable here is is the the Sheriff and pretty sizable.
10:12:20 Increase there, from third, quarter 2022 what is that 700,000.
10:12:28 So we're, Adding 2 Deputies, Corrections, Deputies to do courthouse security, and that the Will be Matched by $135,000,, reduction in the Non-departmental Budget which is where
we pay Ppc solutions, and it, it, also takes
10:12:42 Into account, bargaining, unit agreements, that resulted, in some substantial compensation Increases and Doesn't, reflect all the Openings, at the Corrections, Correct yes,
and the Long Jab No.
10:12:59 The retention and hiring bonuses the budget for those
10:13:05 And then this, is the companion Chart for other funds.
10:13:12 You can see, fund 123, 4,000,362, and then down.
10:13:20 Here, 10,000,463 for the Tri Area, Sewer Fund
10:13:27 And then Construction and Renovation were tackling a couple of big Projects the Port Towns, and Community center, and so on Hmm.
10:13:42 Apartmental Numbers they are yeah, public Health has the Second Largest Well, Public Health and Public Works, and the Share for the 3, Largest Budget Items but in other Funds,
It's Public, Health and to Try Area, Sewer and Roads
10:14:01 Then Staffing Summary pretty pretty good, increase, you know.
10:14:08 The foundational public health money is resulting in public health Hiring additional staff, I Know Apple is really excited about hiring.
10:14:18 An epidemiologist
10:14:22 And but this reflects all the you know, you know Kristin and and the Hr office, and and then Judy and the county administrator, and
10:14:39 And then community development rising to 19 still below, the almost 26.
10:14:47 They had back in 2,008, but we are over the 2,008 staffing as a county.
10:14:52 Yes, we are right for the first time we are. Yeah, that's that's definitely a milestone.
10:14:57 You only took 13 years, Let's Try and keep it there.
10:15:04 Yeah, for sure. So So that concludes the slides on the mid by any review and modification. I I don't know if the Board has any questions they would like answer between now and
next Monday or whether you have any changes you'd like to see
10:15:20 I have one question. So we heard in Budget meeting last week that we're starting to see softening of of revenues, Sales tax down a little bit, and I see that we were still Budgeted
for 23 Anticipating Sales, Tax Revenue, to increase a little bit in
10:15:41 this year, you know, if if we project that there's further recessionary factors coming into play, do we do we risk that number being off base well, the recession well for the
full year, no I I think, the projection, for the full year is Solid, the receptionist
10:16:04 Isn't gonna hit in January. It might hit in May or June
10:16:12 And so any negative impact next year on Sales tax won't be for a full year.
10:16:16 And so I think the increase that we've got factored in here, is appropriate and and certainly
10:16:24 You know as indicators, come in, I mean, I'm I'm focused on the conference Board and and forbes and Bloomberg, and all of that and I digest, that material and so I'm Comfortable
with the Projections we have I I hope I'm not
10:16:42 proven wrong, Well, and even some of the the you know things, like the the construction of the Port, headlock sewer.
10:16:51 That tends to bump up capital projects, bump up sales tax, one O 4 and Hybrid, 19.
10:16:59 Whatever construction projects the State has will provided it's the delivery of those raw materials.
10:17:09 So, and and then we have Construction project, going on on Landis Street, and then on Rainier and an Apartment complex going up, and so we're going to get Sales Tax Revenue,
off of those Projects and and then to the Degree that I Don't know when Habitat might start
10:17:29 Thinking about putting money into the property, that we help them buy and hadlock, but that's going to generate, a monstrous Amount of sales.
10:17:38 Tax, yeah, okay, yeah, any other questions from the Board before we open this for public testimony.
10:17:47 Okay. So this is a hearing on the mid biennium budget review and modification.
10:17:53 And we just had a thorough staff presentation, and we are interested and hearing from our friends, and colleagues in the community, if there's anyone with us who would like
to make to testify on this matter please raise your hand either in the room or in the zoom room using the raise hand
10:18:16 Button at the bottom of the zoom screen. Anybody who'd like to opine on the budget of the county.
10:18:23 This is your opportunity to testify
10:18:29 Okay, I see. One hand went up
10:18:35 We'll bring over Steve Pitmar
10:18:41 You'll need to accept the promotion. The Panelists
10:18:47 And you'll need to unmute, and then you'll have 3Â min for testimony.
10:18:51 And you need a state, your name, and where you live.
10:18:57 You need to unmute, Steve, we can't hear you
10:19:09 There, you go. There, you go good 3Â min.
10:19:09 There, we go, yep, okay, Steve, ditmar, 30, Watt Elaine, Portland of Washington, Regarding, a Budget, Allocation request for Traffic and Safety, Considerations on Shine, Road,
Immediate, But also, Through the Construction of the Roundabout at one O 4 Shrine, in Paradise.
10:19:40 It's starting up zoom when that round about goes in there's gonna be quite a bit of additional traffic.
10:19:46 We Anticipate on Shine Road, so we'd like to see some something to handle, the the increased traffic, or to try and avoid the increase in Traffic and the Associated safety concerns
when the Bridge, is closed.
10:20:08 Or when it gets stopped up from the roundabout construction, the backups on one, o.
10:20:13 4 extend beyond the West end of Shine and typically Google well talking to the share of It's, often rerouting from Google navigation, that sends scars down Shine road and they
come racing down what is essentially a one lane Road so We'd like some help with the County
10:20:35 To get the Google, Database shutdown so that that navigation doesn't occur number one, number 2, for the cars that do come down the road.
10:20:45 We would like to see. some speed bumps speed tables, whatever you want to call them.
10:20:52 I send in some pictures last night on an email of what They've done in Seattle, that I think still allows the emergency vehicles to travel quickly, there and then all this is
summarized in my
10:21:03 Okay, Steve, this is this is a hearing on the budget review.
10:21:09 So.
10:21:08 Right. But that's budget for speed, Tables or speed bumps on shine road.
10:21:16 So your app.
10:21:16 And the other. There is a budget for working, with the state on the intersection of shine teal.
10:21:25 One O. 4 is very dangerous. When the roads backed up and We're trying to turn left to go westbound.
10:21:31 You cannot see the traffic, and very dangerous. So whatever it takes for money wise to stripe, one, O 4, whether that's working with the state to do it, or the county to do,
the striping to put in a do.
10:21:45 Not block section like they do waiting for ferries and stuff.
10:21:48 Okay. Thank you
10:21:50 The rest of mine is some rights in the email.
10:21:52 Okay, thanks for your input is there anyone else who's joined us this morning, who would like to make a public testimony on the mid biennium, budget review and modification,
if so use the raise hand button at the bottom of the zoom screen, is it.
10:22:12 On budget. Yeah, okay, if there's any money, you have to come up and speak into the microphone.
10:22:19 So people, online, can hear, you if there's any money left in the budget here that could go towards addressing the concerns of some 50 people, that are part of this amy, email
thing you will look at hopefully today or sometime soon please respond to all of them if this is true, that they have abandoned the
10:22:49 One, oh, 4 Roundabout then that lessons, the immediacy of the situation, but the County might be able to react in some way to maybe save a life, or 2 this Winter.
10:23:05 Thank you, thank you, Dan is there anyone else with us online who would like to comment on the mid Biennium Budget Review, and modification.
10:23:15 If so use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom.
10:23:16 Screen and we'll bring you over for comments, for testimony.
10:23:23 See any other hands go up.
10:23:31 Last Call or Testimony on the mid Biennium Budget, Review.
10:23:40 Okay, I'm going to close the hearing on the mid Biennium, Budget review and modification.
10:23:47 Thank you, staff, for all, your work, and thank you Dean and other members of the Public who came and commented
10:23:53 We'll take your input into consideration. So we have and the next item on our agenda is are we gonna discuss.
10:24:03 Oh, yeah. Sorry.
10:24:10 I I yeah, thank you to staff, I think that this process is proving to be effective, the Biennium Budget, which is still a relatively new early in our second cycle of doing that
and it. Does.
10:24:23 Seem to be from my appearance. It looks like less work.
10:24:28 I don't know if you feel that way, but hopefully it is and it's.
10:24:35 I I I just think, in general, we do a really good job of of collaboratively building a budget with our departments and not having a lot of surprises and you know, seeing I see
a lot, of other jurisdictions, struggled with political process during Budget C season, and I am hearing
10:24:55 Departments satisfied with this process. And please that we we come to the public with a, I think, a pretty well vetted package, and
10:25:05 So appreciate the work that's gone into it, and it's like I said I think it's a really important document.
10:25:10 Look forward, to t taking it up again next week.
10:25:16 Yeah, I concur, it's the streamline process.
10:25:20 Seems like very effective, so far so love love to see the the more the Rosier 5 Year Projections even as we, you know, walk into inflation and a potential probable recession
so really Kudos, to Staff to respond you know briefly, to the testimony, this probably Isn't, the place to
10:25:38 You know where departments bring their budgets to us, and we approve them more than we'.
10:25:44 A Project, on onto the Hopper at the Last minute. So while it's a real issue that that folks are concerned about down and shine we are we are concerned.
10:25:51 About it. It's probably not the way to get it onto the budget is to bring a particular project to us, because we don't.
10:25:58 You know we're not the ones that are managing capacity at public works, and the Myriad you know, staff time is a big part of this as well.
10:26:06 So the ideal time to a surface this would have been during the tip presentation that public works made a number of weeks ago, right but we will you know, we'll continue and
and you know I know the Roads has already been working with failing to adjust the Google algorithm but if the information that we
10:26:25 Got today. About. You know likely closing the shine road at the at the bridge,
10:26:32 I, think Google will stop during during that time. directing people over there.
10:26:36 But about the budget, you know. No, no changes that I see need to be made before next week.
10:26:44 So I'm, just yeah, really really satisfied with that, with the product and the outcome.
10:26:48 So far thank you, and I would just add as as the new Commissioner I'm still gonna call myself that I've given myself to the end of my second year, so you know, I've been through
a lot.
10:26:58 Of budget, processes with nonprofits, and I find this process refreshing and I feel like the Second Second Year Modification and Review, really was that and it gave Staff the
Time and Rope.
10:27:15 To look at larger trans that are going on both regionally and nationally, and and think about those as opposed to putting together another budget.
10:27:24 So it provides, I feel like a more informed budget.
10:27:27 For the community and allows you guys, the time to really reflect on what's going on locally, regionally nationally, and bring that to bear on our budget, which I think is super
helpful for us as policymakers for you guys as the staff, leaders, on the Budget so I I appreciate, all the work.
10:27:47 Mark and on your budget message and your approach. Well, I
10:27:53 This was a simple, mid my hand and review for me, because we have a finance manager.
10:28:01 Now and next next time we do this she'll have the microphone and you won't be the new girls, anymore.
10:28:12 Judy, yeah, hey? Well, great, so so we will consider adopting the budget next Monday.
10:28:20 Great yes, and there'll be a number of resolutions adopting the Levees, and the Annual Construction program and Cost application and all of those things great well, thank you
Thanks so much so the next Item, on our Agenda is I know it is is a Presentation, with United good Neighbors, and I know.
10:32:10 Let me see you there.
10:32:14 Good morning, Savon. There you are
10:32:16 Sorry about that my friends.
10:32:19 Hi! Hello! So we'll get going again. We are going to have a presentation on the United Good Neighbors.
10:32:29 Give Jefferson 2,020, to Workplace Giving campaign, which runs from a No.
10:32:34 November, eleventh, 2022 to December 30, first, so to the end of the month for payroll, Deductions in 2,023, who is going to Ts, up for this one Sarah mark
10:32:51 Good morning! Good morning. You can hear. Me. Hi! Good morning, shabban.
10:32:58 Good morning.
10:32:58 So Hi as Heidi Mentioned, Commissioner, Eisenhower, mentioned Shabban is here to provide a presentation, about The Youtube's campaign for 2,022 and I'll, let Shabban, do the
the talking
10:33:20 Thank you so much for having me this morning and I first want to start out by thanking the Commissioners.
10:33:28 And everyone who works for the county, for your hard work, on our behalf.
10:33:31 We appreciate your service very much. And we also appreciate from the United Good Neighbors, give Jefferson campaign that you all have been partner on this process for over
60 years.
10:33:42 Now and that is really really incredible. So every year I want to come and kind of report out to you how things are going and just share some gratitude.
10:33:52 And let people know, steps. They can take in order to keep those certificates going.
10:33:58 I don't have to tell you all. That this last year has been quite a struggle for so many in our community.
10:34:04 There are places where young people are having mental health increased mental Health Challenges Families are facing a 9% Increase inflating costs Due to inflation there are
places in our community where over 80% of young people are on the free or riches.
10:34:22 Meal, lunch program and you know, over 10% of our community lives in poverty, around, 10% of our community lives, in poverty, and I think, we are county that has more, of an
identity, with our own, kind, of small villages, than with our county overall, and I think ugn offers.
10:34:42 An opportunity for us to connect across those geographic boundaries for us to connect across those economic differences, and to really support each other, and make sure that
everyone in our community is able to navigate, these extra challenges, that we're going through and I think all of Us, particularly those of you who are on
10:35:02 This on this zoom right now are working towards what we call systemic challenges, making sure that things improve for people over time, better, Affordable Housing, Less people
in poverty, more people with living wage jobs, yet at the same time, what we do, that important, systemic work, we know that there are people, who
10:35:24 Just need, food, who, just, need shelter, who just needs support from mental health and physical health, and that's what you united good neighbors, really does and that's what
your staff, members by contributing to United Good Neighbors Make Possible, so our Goal, this Year is $375,000 We're up to
10:35:44 About 75,000, after one after 2 weeks of the campaign being open, so most of the campaign still to go and all of those Funds go to support organizations like the Local Food,
banks like St Vincent, Dupon Who's, on the Front Line, if There's, a Family who Needs Financial
10:36:04 Assistance to you know, not get evicted to buy some food or services, or socks, or shoes for their children, or even to keep their cell phones on.
10:36:15 So they can communicate with their families. That is what these funds paid for they pay, for Jc, match to offer health care, free health care to people around the county.
10:36:26 They've got a van. They move through to Brennan, well, seen chima come in port, Townsend, Providing free Health care for people living without Homes, or who Just Don't Feel
Comfortable, going into an establishment, like the Hospital and an Organizations like Benji Project who is
10:36:41 helping young people, and parents, navigate these really really challenging times.
10:36:46 I don't know if you saw the article in the New York Times knows Washington Post about the mental health crisis that's happening in our country right now for young people and
Benji Project is so important to that so I just want you to know we are so Grateful for every Dollar that someone can
10:37:03 give most of the donations we get are between 10 and $50.
10:37:08 They all add up to huge amounts of help. We keep doing this campaign, because the nonprofits that we serve, say how it important it is to them they don't have development directors,
they don't have staff on them these are largely, volunteer, organizations who are working to support those most
10:37:24 In need, in our community, and so you all make that happen and so so grateful, just even for the willingness of the county to get behind this campaign to give me this time this
morning, and I hope that you all will give give love, and give hope and give Jefferson, this year, go to give Jefferson
10:37:57 Sarah, Sarah.
10:37:45 Org, and give there or the county itself has a sign up sheet that you can do payroll deductions, and I believe you can speak to markers or suzanne, I'm sorry Susan sorry Sarah
a Marker Sarah about getting that set up and again, thank
10:38:06 You so much on behalf of all of those folks will have a little extra support, because you made the time and effort today
10:38:11 Thanks Shavonne
10:38:14 Any Questions.
10:38:17 Any questions from Mark, I don't know which one I don't want to call them charities.
10:38:29 But yeah.
10:38:27 The partner organizations. We do. There are 33 of them, I can both email them to you, but they're also on the website, at give Jefferson org
10:38:35 Okay, and there's some right here.
10:38:37 Yeah
10:38:39 I'm if you're in the courthouse, we have flyers and the Commissioner's office, right, the Administrator's Office, we have Flyer and Brochures, as well Sir do you want to add
anything just add that there are a lot, of County Employees who Contribute, to United good
10:38:57 neighbors, and contribute to various organizations in Jefferson County, that support our Community and There's Payroll, Deductions, that Monthly, Payroll Deductions, of an Employee,
Chooses, that they can sign up for Yeah and I I'll just say, as Personal Anecdote that
10:39:13 I I choose to give that way. I give small donations monthly to a number of organizations.
10:39:17 Because that's what I I can afford. But recently I added it up and I'm giving $200 a month, to lots of organizations.
10:39:25 And I was like well, that's a lot of money over the year.
10:39:28 But it's important to me and Now I give larger one time donations, to some organizations, but the Little Monthly, there was an organization that I was their First Monthly Donor
and they were so Excited and They're like this is a this is Sea change for us and you know that kind
10:39:45 of booing, the confidence of the people leading organizations felt really empowering to me, and so I know, they have many more monthly donors, now but Monthly Donations, just
1510 $20, can make a big Difference in the Motivation and Empowerment, of an Organization.
10:40:04 so big. I'm a big fan of this kind of giving, yeah, and one of these organizations I've got to bring attention to because when I when I had my Hip replaced by actually was Able
to sign out some equipment, Echo to Help me with my temporary, Disability remember when I brought
10:40:23 the leg, and my first, like 2 Months of Being, a Commissioner.
10:40:26 Yeah I got my my gear from Echo. I mean, it was frank, when you were a new commissioner.
10:40:32 Yeah, it was yeah, that was free. And I kept it for a whole year, and no nobody called me to say, can we have it back?
10:40:38 And so, yeah, a bunch of worthy causes. Here, echo is also a real game Changer for given folks rides to medical appointments.
10:40:46 I mean the the class, of the of the Peninsula.
10:40:48 They do much more than any of their partner organizations and other counties, hundreds and hundreds of rides, that I did not know a year.
10:40:56 Yeah, great organization.
10:40:55 And every single, organization that's on that list is working in that like same level of like hard work, and commitment.
10:41:03 I mean, they're just incredible people, as you all know, you know that they're just, incredible, people doing great work out there.
10:41:10 So, yeah, we're really really grateful, for all of the Support and they are too and
10:41:16 And I just want you to know They they asked me to say thank you as well, when I told them, I was coming on this morning. So really really appreciate it
10:41:25 Well, thanks for your leadership, to Savon and for continuing this really important program in our community
10:41:38 Paycheck Deduction for this campaign.
10:41:41 It's the only way I can afford to give is a little bit at a time.
10:41:45 So that makes it doable, and I also really appreciate that I don't.
10:41:49 I don't have the the time, or the heart to be kind of vetting.
10:41:54 Who I would be giving to in this community, because there is so much need.
10:41:57 And I just love that the community, foundation, does that work. And so I don't have to be kind of picking, and choosing, but instead, I can give, knowing that that it's supporting
a wide range of Services of different types of needs in the community and so I appreciate being a part of that kind
10:42:14 Of bigger effort, that where I'm not feeling to badly, that I'm choosing favorite
10:42:18 Yeah. No, I love that you said that because I think what one of the things that we do, is we gather 20 people to be a community outreach team and they look at the applications.
10:42:28 Every year, make phone, calls their job is to act as a proxy for folks like you, who, are too, busy to do that. Research.
10:42:35 And their job is to ensure that every dollar donated will have an impact.
10:42:38 So you can be assured that every organization that's on the list will use the money wisely
10:42:42 And I've participated in that shavon, and it's it's a very satisfying to to go through. I mean.
10:42:49 It's it's a robust, vetting. And and yeah, great great process.
10:42:53 We would love to have other county employees come in be on the community outreach team. So folks are interested, they can contact us
10:43:01 Thank you, great and if I can just it's timely actually asked Sarah last week. Hey, how do I get my payroll, deduction going on this so it's very timely that you're, here and
I I've, not signed up yet but this is my commitment y'all you'll get a payroll deduction contribution
10:43:16 Fantastic.
10:43:16 from me this year. So it's a great problem, and happy to help amplify it and and do what we can to promote this great opportunity
10:43:23 That's fantastic and I just wanna just apologize to Sarah again, forgetting her name.
10:43:27 Wrong. She's done so much for this campaign, and she's really the the engine of it in the County says, Sarah, thank you
10:43:39 Ours, too
10:43:33 Thank you, no worries, yeah, our Sarah is a rock star.
10:43:41 So okay, well, we, thanks for being here today. And we give Jefferson, everyone, look at Shavonne screen.
10:43:52 Thanks friends.
10:43:54 Thank you thanks for going bye, and so sorry if someone wanted to do a payroll deduction, they would do.
10:44:02 What they would contact alita in payroll, and just there would be a form that they could fill out talking for me, specifically, pledge it on on the Give jefferson.org and then
reach out to a okay, thank you and the public would look at their website for
10:44:22 More information. If they wanted to sign up and talk to their employers.
10:44:24 You have jefferson.org awesome? Okay. Well, the next item on our Agenda is an executive session.
10:44:33 See you all later, so we are gonna go into executive sessions with our human resources, director to review the performance of a public employee.
10:44:47 There will be no discussion of salaries, Wages and other conditions of employment to be generally applied within the county, and no final action on the hiring, setting the salary
of an Individual Employee or Class of Employees or discharging or disciplining an Employee exemptions is Outlined, in the Open Public Meetings Act
10:45:06 Rcw 42, dot-thirty, Dot 110 parentheses, one.
10:45:11 We Will, Be going into Executive Session at 1045 and Coming Out at 1145, as Listed on Our Agenda
11:45:21 Right. Okay, okay, guys, we're back on okay, we are coming out, of executive session, with our human. Oh, I gotta stop AV capture.
11:45:37 I'm just turning off AV capture for the benefit of our listing. Public.
11:45:44 Okay, we're coming out of executive session.
11:45:46 And we are not taking action, so it's 1145 and we have 15Â min.
11:45:53 Until we take our recess for Normally our wassac meeting, but it's been canceled today.
11:45:59 But we all have a lot of homework to do so
11:46:02 I just wanted to continue with briefing to did. Kate, did you have anything else you wanted to share so Yeah, I felt like, last week was super busy for me, and I was like I
can't, wait till I have a chance to update.
11:46:18 My colleagues, so I as you know, was not able to attend the Session about the Enchanted Valley Chile, because I, was doing the election.
11:46:31 So we had the most contested ballots we've ever had.
11:46:35 Mostly for signature issues. Obviously, but anyway, that was time consuming.
11:46:40 But it was we good. We got that resolved balance were deemed on accountable well, there was over 200 total for all reasons, but there was a 130 that were signature review, yeah.
11:46:57 Most of them. I think we kept under, 20. Yeah, update, your signature and you know, one of them was some but a relative of mine and you know, so it was there were few people
I knew and i'm like, oh, my God, you know and then there's. So yeah, it's. It's the thing.
11:47:19 Where you should update your signatures. If you're saying this is have changed over time.
11:47:24 There was some older folks that I could tell that age had changed their handwriting abilities on Tuesday.
11:47:34 I did some work in preparation for our Wednesday special Meeting on Forestry and then Mallory and Catherine and I had a meeting with Drew Rosenbaum and Brian Turner from Dnr
on Tuesday Midday that was really Productive We
11:47:54 Talked a lot about. We talked a lot about the carbon, project, a little bit about the carbon project, a lot about
11:48:03 The parcels in the Carbon, Project, and some of the constraints on those Parcels, and Mallory's priorities in terms of Parcels, that she'd like to See the County Have more say
in in terms, of Management, and Forthry Activities what came out of that was a was something
11:48:23 that was also in the forest, for the future report back in 2,011 or 12. When that was published, there's been a a long desire for
11:48:40 Kind, of getting, out of the business, of dealing with the forests that are near the urbanized areas.
11:48:45 So all the forests and I I just have taken the calling in the Forest North of 104, and East, of one over one you know there's a lot of interest in Dnr to come, up with a Collaborative
Management Plan or Turn Management of those over to the County or Figure out a Way, to get
11:49:01 Them out of the trust, that is their end. So I feel like that's that's an opportunity on our horizon that that's an area of conversation the carbon, Project as you know greg
from our meeting and Kate, if You've, had you Haven't had a Chance, to Review that Meeting yet
11:49:19 But there's a lot of questions about the Carbon Project and the value of how much how much money will the beneficiaries get from the Sale of Carbon Versus, the Sale of Timber
Peter came to our Workshop and did an analysis that showed you know that it Wasn't that
11:49:38 bad it would it would be maybe, as much as equal to Timber harvest, but that didn't take into consideration, things like Dns management fee, or finite carbons management, fee
when they were still Part of the Recipe for this Carbon Project, which Subsequent to all of this they Announced
11:49:58 that they're not working with Dnr Right now they may come back to the table once they're ready to actually sell, Carbon, but they're not part of the Cooks in the Kitchen, on
the Project
11:50:14 So you know the Carbon Project I feel like it has more questions.
11:50:16 Than answers at this point and there was interest from both Afrc and from Heath, hikela who was in the room on Tuesday and from Peter to do a more Detailed Workshop on the the
Carbon Valuation Piece so That's One Thing I would like to Get
11:50:34 On the Calendar with with us, is there an office information to I'm just curious certainty
11:50:51 Hi, kind of where I've been this whole time is trying to hold space for this conversation about the Carbon Valuation,
11:51:00 But I you know I I'm not sure we're gonna get there in a timeframe.
11:51:04 That's gonna be amenable for our decision, making process
11:51:16 But they won't know that until all this parcels are selected and they're far into the process.
11:51:21 You know it's like all right. Now it's on the auction blocks in the same.
11:51:23 Way, the DNA doesn't know how much we can actually get for this this timber sale.
11:51:28 They have much more information and institutional knowledge about the the the market, so it's, they can be more accurate there, but you know that's one of the Variables but
if you plug in you, know 1010 cents on the Dollar that still allows you you know like one of the things Peter did was kind of look over
11:51:46 The lifetime of the of a 40 year. You know carbon set aside and and looking at that 40 Year Plan, getting the depth of the Analysis, I would love to you know give all the stakeholders
an opportunity to you know take some Parcels, through the process.
11:52:01 You know, plugging in 10 cents on the Dollar, 20 cents on the Dollar, whatever and and just so we can have a reference that we can start looking at and plug in the data as it
gets more active what's that when you're in grade, of 10 cents in the
11:52:15 Dollar, 20, Cents, An Hour.
11:52:20 And I, think, yeah, but really, when I see I'm talking compared to like the harvest price, I think that's the distinction right now that that's the range, that I've heard is
10% as much up to 20% as much, but still, looking over the Lifespan you know
11:52:37 Looking over a 40 year, time. I don't think we have.
11:52:40 We have some analysis of that, but I'm not clear on, because I started to try and think about what's the letter I crafted i'm crafting the Dnr in our behalf to bring to a to
an Agenda for you guys and I was like There's still too.
11:52:55 Many questions for me, to even put a letter together, saying this is what common school trust. I think we should through all the common school trust.
11:53:06 Well, those could be trust line transferred, you know, and we're in the process of revitalizing that program, and it's you know, those common school construction parcels and
and the new trust line.
11:53:12 Transfer program isn't as proposed. It is not limited to the common school construction.
11:53:18 Trust so you know there's there's things in play that could affect our planning for the future.
11:53:25 But you know I'd I can't. palette that much of a reduced reduced revenue, especially for the school, districts and fire districts that really depend on this revenue mostly in
your district, and I've, been hearing from district, you know districts, in
11:53:42 My district, that it's you know not as much of an issue, from them, but that's because they don't get as much revenue from it proportionally, much yeah, and you know the library
I had a conversation with tamara from the library and she said she'd much rather have something
11:53:56 Like the Carbon Project, is proposing of consistent annual revenue.
11:53:59 That she could plan on So there's there's still a lot I mean, we're getting a lot, of information.
11:54:08 There's still a lot of Question. So this workshop would help answer some of those or at least clarify those questions potential revenue streams for or you know, maybe we choose
a couple of parcels, or something.
11:54:24 Yeah, let's see, where was my and then I've been including like reconvenience and our own ability to do so.
11:54:35 Harvest, or like no, and that's that's, then then out of that workshop comes the next conversation, which is what are our next steps?
11:54:42 What are some of our options.
11:54:44 For for Countio Lands, Reconvances and Options, not for obviously common school construction.
11:54:49 Those aren't our Lands to Reconvey, but there are a number of Common School Construction, Trust Parcels that are in of Interest to Mallory for Managing Up North of one O one
and or 100, and 4 and East of 100, and one and Dnr is their Common School
11:55:15 Area, around the Pumper Lost World as he's been proposed for the Carbon Project and I think Mallory was really looking at We Conveyance looking at the Challenge of of Managing
our you know average 10 Acre Parcels, Compared to this 200, and 58
11:55:33 Reportcel and looking at the opportunities of some of those larger, I think, North of 100, and 4 Properties, no we can't.
11:55:46 But there might be a way to interground, exchange I mean, this is why the the further conversation is needed with Dnr At the Table is what are our options for common school
Lands and then our Option for state.
11:55:57 Forest Transfer trust Lands, is Reconveyance, and maybe, now Trustland transferred to if that makes it, through the legislative process is that Detroit changes to the program
so There's There's still a lot in play but there's you know some some Pathways are becoming less than
11:56:15 Murky, but I still I I'm not supportive of you.
11:56:19 Know I would like to see us come up with the win, win, or the the Mid the Middle Road that works for everyone, and so what I see is a lot of Work ahead, and that's just you
know what I wanted to say, but those are the 2 Conversations I'm Proposing that we have next in
11:56:35 The in that order. That's great is
11:56:39 So assuming Trust Line Transfer does get funded again.
11:56:45 I mean, that's a statewide program. There's already quite a backlog of interest right so it's not like we could assume that we would be it with candidates for take up to a decade,
for these projects to Work their Way through much less new ones, well, hopefully they'll Fund.
11:56:59 The 10 Projects that We're proposing this year, which is much of the Backlog?
11:57:06 Yeah. But did you say 10 years.
11:57:15 What behind my ears working at Dnr, out in the field, so No.
11:57:20 25 years, yeah, so you know. They could take a long time.
11:57:23 But this is long Time. Stuff, right? We're talking about the future.
11:57:27 And heritage, and so lots of conversations to have still, but a lot of good information came out of our workshop and I've gotten a lot of great Feedback about Mallory's Work
and us Inspiring the Conversation, People, are Grateful that We're Bringing, Everyone to the Table.
11:57:45 And working through this together, we interviewed our Strategic Planning Consultant candidates on Tuesday, Afternoon, we interviewed 3 And the Entire Panel except for one Person,
did the same Order Top Top Contender Med Contender, and so Coming Out of it We Offered the Project or Offering
11:58:11 The Project to Work a consultant, that we're really excited about this Pair of women came in super wonderful and dynamic and I would say intuitive about our process, in a way,
that we were all excited so that will be exciting and then wednesday we had Budget committee, together.
11:58:33 And then Greg and I did the forestry workshop with the library, we just talked a lot, about that but there, were 40 people in the room which was exact 39 people in the room
our fire Limit, was 40, and there were 80.
11:58:45 People online, so, okay, so we had a well, attended workshop and good diversity of participation.
11:58:57 And like. I said excited for the next Conversations I've been out walking around on a few of the parcels with proponents for the Parcels, which is been very educational Milo
my Puppy Loves going with on Thursday I went over to Dcd and Sat down with
11:59:15 Josh, and Jody just to ask him. Things are going and but the Legal Ladder, record and the Side, Development, Review I've been getting a lot of Confucian concerns.
11:59:25 And it seems like there's a perfect storm of delay happening at Dcd.
11:59:34 Right now with the new Staff, Turnover and the new Processes coming online.
11:59:41 And I know that the Home Builders Association has scheduled a meeting with Mark Macaulay tomorrow I see mark there.
11:59:48 Yeah martin phone builders, but they've called me the last couple of weeks.
11:59:53 So there's just a lot of concern, and and when I talk, I mean, I see appreciate both Josh and Jodi's approach to the Work, their Abilities, their Communication Styles, they're
just awesome County Employees, and you know what I hear from them is It's.
12:00:13 Really it's the perfect storm of Capacity, issues and new Processes Coming, online.
12:00:21 And I keep saying that to all the people who are contacting me, you know. But they're saying that now, these these programs processes are going to take 14 weeks.
12:00:31 By development, review, permit, review. So it's just that's not even acceptable.
12:00:38 So I don't know what we can do to help you know.
12:00:40 We need to figure out where the pressure points are that we can help.
12:00:44 Hi! The Right resources, too. and I know mark will coming out of his conversation with the Home Bowlers. Tomorrow.
12:00:51 Probably be talking with all of us. So
12:00:57 Let's see what was that oh, yeah, so we're I'm still working on trust land.
12:01:04 Transfer. So yeah, I mean, that's like the never ending story.
12:01:11 Right now Market, I did Agenda planning, and then I guess the next oh, I had a really interesting meeting with Senator Van Deweg and East Jefferson Fire about Dnr surplus Equipment.
Program.
12:01:29 We are qualified on the list of Counties eligible to get Surplus equipment, but we have never been given the opportunity to get any of that equipment and chief black asked me
do you know anyone in Olympia and Do you know and and I'm like you need to
12:01:45 Talk to Kevin He's a firefighter so I got them on the phone together.
12:01:49 And I think they're working through. You know how to how to unlock the magic Dnr is the not derelict equipment.
12:02:00 But what's the Call, yeah, surplus equipment.
12:02:04 Thank you. That was the word I needed and then Friday afternoon.
12:02:10 We did all of our event or another, round of vendor, interviews, for the Behavioral Health Funding and it just that just feels like such a
12:02:19 In both processes, El, Tech, and behavioral, health, I mean, we had more funding applications, when we had funds, and so figuring it out is it's tough.
12:02:31 But I think that we came to a good place with them.
12:02:34 We have our meeting tomorrow with the paper Health Advisory Committee and will be
12:02:42 Presenting our recommendations, and then I attended Richard Voce, Memorial Service on Saturday Afternoon.
12:02:52 And it was wonderful. made me remember all the reasons I adored him, and Sunday I went out I'm part of that Cape George Parcel with one of the Proponents, for Protecting that
super I just Love getting out in the Forest and on the land so but mostly I wanted to tell you about
12:03:13 Strategic, planning, hey? Real health, and then all the forestry stuff
12:03:19 12 O, 3. Do you want to recess. You have any questions okay, so I'm going to recess.
12:03:29 Us, until 1, 30, and enjoy your break.
13:30:14 No, he, I think I don't think to play any alright
13:30:31 Okay.
13:30:34 Are we back up we don't have any capture.
13:30:39 Okay, so I'm calling with our meeting back to order.
13:30:43 Hope. Everyone had a great lunch I had solely, I know you're all jealous.
13:30:49 Now the Ira made so we are gonna go right into an executive session with our county administrator, and she civil debut prosecuting attorney, regarding actual litigation, exemption,
is outlined in the open 42 dot 30, that one
13:31:08 2 parentheses, one parentheses, I we're going to go in at 1, 31 and We'll be back at 2 o'clock.
14:01:21 Yeah, are you
14:01:25 Hmm. Okay. Come in after the
14:01:30 Yeah, okay.
14:01:37 Okay.
14:01:41 We are coming out of executive session, and we will be taking action. Commissioner Dean will be making a motion
14:01:52 You're not gonna be in zoom. Yeah, alright, I move that we wave any conflicts of interest that philippinesucker has in representing the county in the lawsuit, Filed, by Julie,
St.
14:02:05 Murray, I'll second, all in favor. Oh, okay, so we are now gonna take public comment on the item that we were just an executive session and the motion that Commissioner Dean
just made is there anybody.
14:02:22 With us interested in making public comment on this matter
14:02:33 Not seeing any hands go up! Oh, Gene Ball
14:02:39 Okay.
14:02:43 Jean, you have 3Â min. Once you Unmute
14:02:49 Do. I asking us to comment on something we have no knowledge of that that baffles me. Just a little bit. Thank you
14:03:00 Yeah
14:03:02 That's how I felt. Okay, anything else, okay.
14:03:08 I'm gonna close public comment on this, not seeing any other hands go up, and we will take a vote respond to public. Comment.
14:03:18 Okay, it is it is a I I get it.
14:03:22 Jean. It's it is a little weird what we talk about in an executive session.
14:03:26 Is privileged, be interesting to run this by our attorney again, to see if indeed we do need to do public comment on that is related to protective session, so thank you for
bringing that up I was over here, with my eyes.
14:03:47 Like, Yeah, Yeah, and this is, you know, it's a new opma, provision that's public Kevin as well on any action taken but you're right it's crazy.
14:03:59 Doesn't make any sense. So with you I agree. Great.
14:04:04 Okay. Well, now, I'll call for the vote on the motion all in all those in favor, bye, bye, passes unanimously.
14:04:12 Okay, no, we are going to leave you all and go into another executive session.
14:04:20 And we are going in at 2, o. 4 I'm gonna say, we're gonna come out at 2, 30, cause 10Â min.
14:04:29 Seems too short to me. So we are going into executive session with county administrators, chief civil Deputy Prosecuting Attorney, civil Deputy Prosecuting Attorney, Department,
of Community development, Director and Dcd Deputy, Director Regarding, Potential Litigation, Exemption.
14:04:45 Is outlined in the open public meetings. Act Rcw.
14:04:49 42, point 1, 10, Parentheses one, parentheses, i. We're going in at 2, o 4, and we will be coming out, at 2 30,
14:30:17 My I was driving back on Friday, from Seattle, one Horrible Storm Friday, night.
14:30:25 Okay don't worry. Don't worry people, we're just talking about the weather here.
14:30:30 I'm gonna call us back to order we're coming out of executive session, and we will.
14:30:35 Not we will be taking action. Yeah, there is a motion to be made
14:30:42 I'm getting there. Mister Dean has this yeah, it'll take me a sec.
14:30:48 Okay, hmm.
14:30:53 Oh, we we neglected to. Oh, we should have asked him sorry. Hmm
14:31:00 Sorry I'm getting there. Hmm, I move that we Delegate authority to mark Macaulay to finalize and sign on Behalf of the County Tolling Agreements have a second All in favor oh,
We're Gonna take public comment on this and We're not gonna
14:31:21 have a Toll Bridge in Jefferson County, that's what you think it's about so we are again, taking public comment on an executive session, because we Don't know what our the opma.
14:31:32 Tells us to do. Yet exactly on this so if anyone thinks they know what we were talking about wants to comment on it.
14:31:39 They're willing, they're changing, they can go ahead and raise their hands.
14:31:44 You can raise your hand, then we'll bring you over for public comment
14:31:53 Polling repeats it. Hmm it's gonna repeat the motion just a second gene recording and progress
14:32:09 I Move, that We Delegate, authority to mark Macaulay, To Finalize, and Sign on Behalf of the County Any Tolling Agreement.
14:32:17 I was just reading it back for the Record and Greg, Seconded, that and now we're taking public comments on this issue and Gene Ball
14:32:28 You all said exactly what I was thinking, and and that is, could you just tell us what a tolling agreement is.
14:32:36 I assume we will not have a toll bridge, but that may not exactly be a fair assumption.
14:32:41 And one request or ask, anyway, is for the wizard who runs the Zoom functions, Carolyn if if sometimes it is an option or convenient, it is it's Helpful for Us the participants,
to be able to see in Chat or in the transcript
14:33:10 That you have stated that you're taking a break and the time You're coming back, or you've gone into executive session, or something like that so if if I lose track of the the
View the audio, or the video sometimes I could catch what was said through those other Meetings, if
14:33:30 Carolyn could make that happen. That would be much appreciated.
14:33:37 Yeah, and that's something. I do.
14:33:44 But I didn't this last exactly
14:33:49 Comes after that now they don't see any previous chat messages.
14:33:54 So hmm okay, so I can answer the first part of the question, what a tolling agreement keeps the Statute of limitations from running, during the tolling period.
14:34:08 So if, for example, a Lupus Statute of Limitation runs from Say, December, the fifteenth and We, have a tolling period of 30 days the Limitations, would be would be Told, so
the Statue, of Limitations would not Run, Out until the fifteenth, of the next Month
14:34:27 That's, and I had to ask that question. So it kind of gives us time to do the work
14:34:36 Does that make sense okay, crystal right
14:34:42 Hmm. Yeah, it's a complicated. Okay, thanks.
14:34:50 Okay, so That executive session was the last thing on our agenda.
14:34:59 That we had
14:35:06 Oh, Nope, right? Okay, so all in favor of the motion, and the second Bye, Bye.
14:35:13 Sorry. I almost forgot that is there anything else for the good of the order that folks want to talk about this afternoon I mean, we haven't done calendars.
14:35:31 Yeah, all right, the calendar and wondering.
14:35:31 If we want to talk about the workshop anymore, or kind of the plan for that I mean, I'm not I don't have anything in particular I need to go over and happy to ways, that I you
know we've talked about it you know a future workshop on with a very specific, question and I think kind
14:35:45 of refining that a little bit would be maybe helpful, if we're gonna do it in the next couple of weeks, right so I can do you want to start on that or calendaring doesn't matter
calendaring let's do calendaring first
14:35:59 Hey, you want to start? Sure, hmm.
14:36:05 Alright.
14:36:09 See I'm meeting with like Gathering place folks tomorrow.
14:36:16 Then we have the Transit Authority Board Composition Conference tomorrow afternoon, and I'll be headed to the Jcf Holiday party community Foundation Holiday, party, which I
mentioned, a number of Us will Be attending on Wednesday, have you I'll be an Olympia for the
14:36:38 New Commissioner, Training Thursday, the Wouldn't meet Jason Holiday party is Wednesday.
14:36:47 Oh! Shoot! Have it on the wrong, dates, yeah, thank you.
14:36:52 I'm glad you brought that up so that means I'm not going to be there sadly Olympia I'll be there we'll still have an uncomfortable not okay.
14:37:04 Just just don't have too much fun without me.
14:37:08 There is a oh, that's that's not a agricultural trust.
14:37:16 Do you remember. I don't know. If you've heard about this is that a national group that's coming to Fin River.
14:37:20 They have kind of some housing models that they're going to be talking about among other things, and more than model read actual out I know, but we also don't have the zoning
to have much density.
14:37:32 So Tuesday, midday, and then headed to or excuse me.
14:37:37 Thursday, Midday, then headed to Seattle for Medical Appointments Friday.
14:37:43 I'll be in Olympia and the Riparian Habitat Round Table, and that's pretty much my Week
14:37:54 Relatively light. Mine is pretty light. Actually see, I have one conflict, though today I have a northward Canal chamber meeting after we're done here down in Brennan tomorrow
all I've got on the calendar is the Board composition conference with Jefferson, Transit hey?
14:38:13 Referenced When Wednesday I'm sure Everyone's Glad I'm Finally, Getting, my Haircut just in time to Prevent the Man Bun and Doing the Agenda Planning For the Board of Health
14:38:29 Play for the Us. Soccer Team
14:38:35 On Thursday, I have the Behavioral Health consortium meeting with Laurie Fleming at the same time that I have the Clean Water, District Quarterly, meeting so I don't know if
one of those is interesting to folks at 3 O'clock, I would be Thursday the Eighth oh, I'm also going to the J.
14:38:58 The Jcf party on Wednesday, I. Thursday.
14:39:00 The eighth. I could do the clean Water District at? Okay, I will send you the invite and let Michael Dawson know
14:39:10 And then on Friday I have. The I talked a little bit about our main topic at the Sailors Behavioral Health Administrative Service organization, Board meeting on the ninth at
9 am and We'll be talking a lot, about Opioid Settlements and and Disposition, of those Funds, and then we have
14:39:30 Our our local HUD House, America Appointment Monthly Monthly meeting at 11 O'clock on Friday right after that and then those are the high points of my meeting have my week
14:39:45 Okay, I also have the Jta Board composition, conference with you guys, tomorrow, and I haven't public outreach meeting on the trust land transfer proposal, and the upcoming
legislative session, with some of my conservation, collaborators, at 4 tomorrow I have the
14:40:14 Marine Resources, Committee at 6, the next morning. I have a discussion with Monica of the Marine Resources Committee and Julie are Julie about Tracking of Marine Resource Committee,
Appointments, and Just Kind of Appointment Tracking in General there have been some
14:40:38 Discrepancies over the years and we're just trying to clean those up and get a system together that won't allow people to fall through the cracks like they feel like they have
been I on wednesday I'm Attending the Washington Environmental Council Carbon conference and
14:40:59 Presenting on the Evolving management of State Forest Lands for Public Benefits, and talking about Jefferson, Counties, Forestry, Program, and the Carbon Benefits of Longer
Rotation, Or Pre-commercial Thinning and Variable, Retention, I Mean, What We're, Doing with Forestry.
14:41:21 Is contributing to improve carbon, landscape, and that's what I'll be talking about not talking about Dnr's carbon project talking about what we actually do here, and then the
Jta, Jefferson, Transit Finance committee meeting later in the Day, and then Jc have
14:41:43 Holiday Party With Commissioner, Brotherton Agenda Prep.
14:41:50 With mark on Thursday, Trustland, Transfer, Legislative Strategy, planning Thursday, later, in the afternoon, now the clean Water District, Meeting, and then on Friday is our
Quarterly Meeting of the Straight Er N Lao at the Red Cedar Hall, in Blynn from 9 30
14:42:13 To 1, 30, and then I'm coming back from that and walking with the constituents who just had her case with the hearing Hearing Examiner Resolved Favorably and She just wants
to talk through next steps, and just generally I think wants to Debrief her Process so We're Gonna Go for a Beach
14:42:35 Walk with the dogs, and then I think that's it.
14:42:40 There's nothing. I'm actually having a weekend.
14:42:42 Maybe and maybe that'll this will be the Tamali rolling weekend, just planning.
14:42:48 As we go. Here, there is the I like to promote things this the farmers craft, fair, is Saturday, and Sunday, at the Chimicum Grange, which is a super fun place to go do some
of your Holiday Shopping It's my Commercial Psa for that I had a lot of Fun there last
14:43:05 Year I would just say about the Grange. I also went to a Sunfield Farms 6.
14:43:11 Th and seventh grade, play, last night, and it was awesome and hilarious, and if just, I mean take the advantage of some of the Fun things that are happening during the Holidays
here because they are Fun, and we Live in a Great Community so and Kudos to those Sixth and Seventh, Graders
14:43:32 for owning their parts in that play, that's it for my this week.
14:43:40 Anyone have any conflicts farther out, that they want help.
14:43:45 I don't we're getting close to the holidays, so I would just say that I would just remind people that we're not having a meeting on the 2720 Twenty-sixth so well, 27, yeah,
and we will be having a meeting.
14:44:03 On, the third, of January, because Both Monday, the twenty-sixth, and Monday, the second are observing holidays, so we'll our first meeting of the Year will be Tuesday, January
the third, and I've Applied, to Be on the Board of Natural Resources and
14:44:22 if I'm appointed, I might not be here.
14:44:24 Because that's the Port Financial Resources meeting. I'll vote for you okay, thanks
14:44:31 Anyway.
14:44:36 Not seeing any other conflicts on my calendars through the end of the year, though
14:44:45 Anywhere, for a long time.
14:44:48 So that's calendaring. We want to talk about the Tranche of Workshops on Forestry coming up sure sure
14:44:58 So as I proposed this morning, the the specific one that people are interested in digging into with all of us.
14:45:05 Is the kind of the carbon calculations. How how much Junior Tech Counties, and and thus Junior Taxing Districts could expect from the Carbon Project?
14:45:21 Do you know our carbon, project, and as I mentioned we don't have a definitive answer from Dnr as to what those calculations could be.
14:45:29 But we could do, some hypotheticals
14:45:33 2 folks have mentioned their interest in participating in that with me.
14:45:36 That's he Tykola, from Afrc and Peter Bales from Northwest Watershed Institute.
14:45:42 I imagine there would be other people interested and participating in that conversation.
14:45:47 But I could try and get that set up for like next week, or during I don't know what's on the Agenda for next Monday mark, budget, for a while do all those resolutions yeah,
Adopting, webbies and but those are Formulaic so potentially
14:46:12 We could do it in the afternoon. I think, okay, do you think part of that conversation, is if we were to consider Reconvenience, and consider, our own Sale of Carbon
14:46:26 No one's looked at that at all. I mean. We're not
14:46:32 Give you a different contractor, or it's it's people have been talking to me about that, too.
14:46:38 Yeah, it's it's done. and I told heidi, I learned that at the wassac meeting that the Bannerville Environmental Foundation.
14:46:48 They are now brokering Carbon deals for municipality, so you don't think it's out of the question but I don't know if we want to expand to consider that, it'll be interesting
to know if they're actually equipped.
14:47:04 To do estimates based on you know, temporary stand and information.
14:47:11 Whether you know they could provide us with any kind of calculation. Mr.
14:47:14 Barometer, I mean. We've heard from Dnr and others.
14:47:18 They would get the best rate because they could really it would be high quality, parcels, and I, you know it's hard to get that other than you know, getting a competitive bit
I guess hmm so we wouldn't be sharing it with as many partners, no right hmm i've also
14:47:36 Seen talking Mallory has Denise prayer working with her from the Carbon Side and
14:47:46 I also started talking with Paula Sweden from Conservation Northwest, because she's got some Carbon information and in an Rg did it.
14:47:56 That great presentation of rotates, you know, differing rotations, the carbon benefit of differing rotations, I mean it could be a much larger conversation.
14:48:06 But I think what we need to get down to the bottom of in the short term is whether we would want to participate in Dnr's Carbon project and We're Nowhere close to an answer
to that question, based on what we know right now well, I think There's some Parcels like be
14:48:23 Revally. You know that they did log, I mean, I would.
14:48:27 Say, yeah, that's a good candidate. So I mean, do we want to go unit, by units and start looking at.
14:48:32 And that's a different question than taking one. And and looking over looking over a forty-year period. Right?
14:48:40 Yeah, I mean in one conversation, I had we made the thought was like, maybe we look at the area for the Carbon Project and the Parcels, North, north, of one O, 4, as more for
Co.
14:48:57 Management reconvance, you know, trust land transfer the other tools in the toolbox, and so and then the Ones Down Around Quilling Up, against the National Forest, maybe leave
those in Dnr's Timber Production so that those Junior Taxing Districts, that need that revenue, the most as
14:49:17 we've been hearing still receive the revenue from those timber sales, so that's
14:49:36 And and what? Is that oh, seriously north the North ones consider reconvenience or Different Management Model, including the Whimper Quemper Jacob Miller,
14:49:50 There's one on egg, and I 6 parcels, that Mallory is starting to model looking at 250 acre parcel, that she dove into it is common school, trust so it would be an intertrust
transfer first so you'd have to find or trust land transfer
14:50:11 Would they reconvey it after a first time transfer. Oh, they would just transfer it directly. So they
14:50:18 Sound to recon dance. It's it's dnr manages lands, it actually is can be a reconstruction.
14:50:28 So the parcels in the quemper Wildlife, Corridor that we're in the process of taking right.
14:50:32 Now those Lease parcels, that's Part of a Trust line, transfer I know. But I'm just saying that that's an example of Accounting receiving the benefit of Trust Land Transfer
transactions, so those were
14:50:51 Hours, right. I mean like for reconvance of common school.
14:50:55 Why would to convey to us there is no allowed current reconveyance of common school lands, only state for us, transfer, trust land for County Force Board Lands.
14:51:05 So he couldn't reconvene that no, not as I currently understand and that's what I said this, morning, I would want to talk with Dnr, see what options there are like what could
we do an integrant exchange between the common school trust and the force board, trust to free.
14:51:21 Up those acres, so that they could be reconciled to the county, that would be one option, but it doesn't seem like there's enough acres, and similar geography of state force
transfer trust lands.
14:51:33 To do that integrand exchange
14:51:41 Hey, bombay, then we can oh, we don't even have to do the inner trust for trustee, transfer
14:51:50 Alright, it's one of these. It's like a huge if then
14:52:02 Personal by parcel. What I guess to me
14:52:09 Kind of unwrapping this a little bit into more byte size workshops would be helpful. So and We're talking
14:52:20 Afternoon, talking about
14:52:22 We just choose one, parcel, and and try to track its various potentials.
14:52:29 So the Carbon project 3 conveying. If it's like look at 40, year but what I'm hoping to do.
14:52:39 Is we to get Us in a position where we can comment on. Whether we're interested in being part of the Carbon Project or not that's. The first information. We well, if you want
to comment on that we've been asked to
14:52:52 We we should I mean, I guess I
14:52:56 Is, is it? Are they secret. Information about the carbon crops itself? Or they're?
14:53:03 Curious, if we want to Dnr wants to know, are we interested in participating in the carbon, project because they've got all parcels all across Western Washington mapped and
their account is asking them for more acres thurston Watcom and Do we free up cause we have 40%, of the
14:53:21 Acres, in the 10,000, acres allocated in Jefferson County.
14:53:25 So if we say we're only interested in looking at the Carbon Project for this limited set of lands that frees up acres for Dnr to find Elsewhere to me if they're Moving forward,
with the Carbon Project Together to their 10,000 Acres it Brings Me Back to the
14:53:46 Common school land. Because there's a lot of common school and in there, which you know, like the one We're talking about 250, acres around Pumper Lost moving as it's all common
school, it's not all all common School, there isn't it
14:54:03 okay, no. There's there's actually, very few Acres in the Jefferson County's Carbon Project acreage that are common school acres. Got a bunch of the Mount Walker, yeah, there
are there are sections of that I, have the table, in my office, somewhere,
14:54:31 We just started talking, Peter, we Peter, we're not gonna take public comment on this right now, because we're we need to we.
14:54:39 We haven't had the chance to talk to each other.
14:54:41 Kate's been gone, and he's pricing and raising his hand.
14:54:46 Send send me an email. I'll call you back. Peter, sorry I have
14:54:55 I'll I mean, I think you know generally we can answer do we want to be included.
14:55:03 Say, I think it's exciting, and I yeah, I mean, I mean, I think that you know, in the very beginning of the idea of this it was a very enticing idea and We've heard from a lot,
of ours, our junior taxing districts and most of them.
14:55:23 Have said, Well, what is this gonna do to our revenue?
14:55:26 And we need to know that answer before we move down this road.
14:55:31 So, if it if it were on the common schools land, that would not affect revenue right except revenue doesn't, it would just be additive revenue.
14:55:41 Yeah, so that seems like a no Brainer, and we don't have the ability to reconvey or we Don't have a lot of say in those lands, anyway, right but I mean how much how much merit
to us say, these lands, that we give no benefit.
14:55:59 From Explicitly We think you should put those in there.
14:56:04 Well, but I mean, there they are there the ones who identified parcels that they want already that they based on the high Ecological function, right so they it seemed to meet
their criteria and you know I think, we have to keep in mind too, that the Ospi is pressuring for for
14:56:21 The common schools, Funding Harvest model to be done away with.
14:56:26 So like that could be a a win, win, you know. I have a feeling.
14:56:33 Dnr. Will also want to you know kind of work in larger tracts, Contiguous.
14:56:38 You know not have a bunch of teeny little projects or parcels that are spread all over the place.
14:56:46 So they might push back on that I definitely think we should signal our interest.
14:56:54 You know, we are trying to partner with Dnr and being innovative, and supporting, their Kind, of more Environmental initiatives.
14:57:06 So.
14:57:08 I would support moving forward with a letter, but it's probably helpful to refine and define our Interest a Little More
14:57:19 I'm looking for that Acreage Information
14:57:33 I need just that way I telephone sucker is available to address.
14:57:37 But public comments after oh, great if you'd like to perfect okay, well, when we're done talking about this about that so our so we were talking about the idea of having a workshop
on the Twelfth Regarding these.
14:57:58 Carbon, calculations, so that that would arm us with with crafting a letter to send a Dnr I'm happy to take on drafting that letter but I really would like to have more concrete
sense of the carbon, Project and its implications.
14:58:16 To our junior taxing districts, or I can make a in spirit.
14:58:21 We are very supportive of the carbon project. But we have concerns about the impacts, to our Junior taxing districts.
14:58:28 I mean, I can say that or just that are in order to make a decision about our participation.
14:58:33 We would need to know the value proposition of the Carbon Project.
14:58:40 Yep.
14:58:43 I mean, we've been saying that all along
14:58:48 And that's why we've been trying to get closer to some kind of sense of what that would be looking at them. You know.
14:59:04 If you take out North Penny North Pennsylvania to any South, Matt, Walker, no.
14:59:10 On zoom. Oh yeah. Yeah.
14:59:18 Hmm.
14:59:25 These don't break them out, and
14:59:28 What, type, of trust they're in Hmm this is there phase 2, kind of basic map, there, we know that this one quimper, is the area surrounding the Kumper lost wilderness, in a
much larger so it's, and that this was the one that mallory, kind, of
14:59:48 Analyzed for potential in the workshop. The other night Anderson Lake, also has the advantage of being
14:59:57 There's right away, we're gonna be having to navigate through there that's a park. Area.
15:00:01 Already I can't remember what kind of trust that was to you're a valley's common school teal, Jake agonized common.
15:00:13 School, I think Jacob Miller's also Common School but Toal Lake is Forest Board still like East is the one that Mallory is interested in, not the one in Pink right
15:00:25 Interested in for conveyance, for conveyance, for the Counties Forestry, Program, and the one in Pink is Carbon Project proposal, but the you said it's in What's Trust I Don't
know I think it's Common School but I'm not sure I
15:00:45 can't find that sheet. I can go get it.
15:00:50 I'll just run into your
15:00:54 We have a little bit of time. Right? Now, yeah.
15:01:03 The coils I mean I love to dig in you know at this Workshop with Peter and others about Kind of Potentials down there, that's definitely a focus, area, right?
15:01:13 Really prime for conservation there, but that's a lot of land.
15:01:19 Yeah. Hmm the ever expanding natural area. Yeah, so, which one specifically, re-attendment.
15:01:28 Well, these these are all in in the coil expanded naturally
15:01:34 Yeah
15:01:41 I didn't realize it went down that far, the Expanded one, so
15:02:29 Of the parcels North of 104
15:02:36 Quimper, is 50 acres of common school for the Carbon. Project.
15:02:42 I don't know what the rest of that block is, but I think it is
15:02:50 I'm thinking it's common school, but I'm not.
15:02:55 Then Anderson, Lake is 167.
15:02:59 Common, School, 268, state Force transfer, 268, 167, 268,
15:03:10 Beaver Valley is common school 66
15:03:16 You wait, is state force transfer 400
15:03:26 And then there were some other, State force transfer, Meet, that's County County Forest Boardlands, yeah, the meaty stuff, right?
15:03:35 But but why transfer cause? We transferred it to
15:03:42 In the 18, yeah, 19 and thirtys, yeah yeah, 1,900 thirtys, silent, older, silent alder is common school.
15:03:54 Common School, 66, state Force, transfer, 4, 71, mostly
15:04:02 Because there's much left there harvesting there for some time.
15:04:06 Hmm.
15:04:12 And then Matt Walker, Sorry Matt Walker is 848, 41 Acres of State, Forest transfer and 10, Acres, of Stateforce, Purchase, so It's, all County Land I'm Not I'd Love to Understand
you Know, I Think Dnr
15:04:29 Belongs at the table, too. Because what was it about that giants
15:04:34 Swath that you know I feel like it might be just steep slopes yeah, I mean, I've seen some of those Dnr parcels and so we asked them that question mallory and I and they said,
they needed more.
15:04:46 Acres, they were told to get a certain number of acres, for the Carbon Project, and that's actually one that they would still like to have to operate on when I say, we pull
that one yeah, well, that's, kind of where mallory and I in Conversation We're looking at Mount
15:05:03 Walker, and the Penny Parcels.
15:05:07 What about ducka bush, I don't remember.
15:05:11 It's so tiny, it's 12 acres.
15:05:14 I can't remember what we, but I feel like that's it's common, school, too.
15:05:20 Common. School. And it's it's right down by where the big, the All the Flood Plan work is going on.
15:05:24 So it really has some. I'm guessing use ecosystem support that it helps with too, where is gonna do the most good.
15:05:34 See, what.
15:05:37 So I mean, I guess
15:05:40 Reframing, what our workshop should be. About it seems like if the answer that we're kind of trying to come up with is what's, our response, to this proposal that's really what
we should talk about and we still get to figure out what's, the long term, Recant, my earlier
15:05:57 Proposal and and think that we just you know dig into these and go, go unit, by unit to to make a recommendation as a group that you can memorialize in a letter, yeah, I agree
I mean it's hard to make that decision, based on like not having the other options
15:06:19 Defines but I mean, that's where we are the timing is that this is needs to happen sooner than we can have the other, information.
15:06:25 Gathered. So well, and the other options for State forest Transfer Trust lands for the County Force Board Lands is Reconciled, and the other Option for the Common School Lands
is trustland transfer so I mean that for us, for the Future Report from 11 years ago outlined all of
15:06:46 Those up for all these parcels, outlined kind of the Recommendation, Free Parcel by Parcel, for I think it was like 45 parcels, talking about you know, this one, should be become
a community for us, this one should be we conveyed this one should be trust line.
15:07:05 Transfer. So we can look back at that as well
15:07:09 I, mean, I think, we could consider, you know, asking Dnr, for a different.
15:07:18 Management, system, too, on those lands which I'm I realize has probably has some revenue implications.
15:07:29 But you know maybe it's it's there's some benefit to a longer rotation.
15:07:34 Well, it might not be, it might not be a revenue.
15:07:38 It'll change, the timing of revenue right.
15:07:41 But if you do more longer, rotations, but more smaller. Harvest within that plan.
15:07:49 Yeah, we started talking, Mallory and I started talking with Drew Drew and Brian about that last week of Like Collaborative Planning for the Timber, Harvest on some of these
Tracks of Land and they were Open To that idea, yeah, I was Surprised that Drew up that in our Monday, Sessions.
15:08:06 Yeah, I had not heard that before. Yeah, no, it's great.
15:08:10 I mean, really, we have an opportunity, right now to have a really productive collaboration with Dnr and you know, they're most interested in doing that collaborative work north
of one O 4, like I keep saying but i'm just gonna keep saying it.
15:08:24 Because you, know, I made that yeah, distinction dealing with folks not wanting populated area. Yeah, it's it's it's a struggle for them. People's passive recreation areas well,
yeah, I mean, that's definitely, keys, and a couple of these very very
15:08:42 Instinctually I want to learn them a little bit can are the coil ones?
15:08:47 Can you tell us, and on your list? What? What the Coil?
15:08:48 3 sound, like coil, one and 12, 4, coils, 358 acres of that County Forest Board, Lands, Coil, one is 27 Acres of County County Forest Board, Lands, Quill, 3 is, 38 8 Acres,
of common school, and Coil, 4 is, a 100, and 19 acres of
15:09:09 Common school and silent. Alder is 500. And oh, it's 471 acres of County, Forest Boardlands, and 66 Acres of Commons, School, and Silent Link is 403 Acres of Force, Board, Lands
and 22 Acres of Common School i.
15:09:30 Mean I could make you a far down the Tape of natural area with I'm sure what We'll have here with us right Send you the Pdf.
15:09:41 If I could find it stop sharing.
15:09:48 So, yeah, I think I mean, I think a workshop looking at these parcels of land.
15:09:57 Getting Afrc
15:10:01 Northwest Watershed Institute, Mallory.
15:10:05 Denise.
15:10:08 For next next Monday, is what I'll work on.
15:10:12 I can work on that tomorrow morning. Hmm, that's the proposed hmm.
15:10:30 People can't hear you guys oh, sorry We're Mumbling That's why, just trying to figure out how far down the Dave Up Natural Area, Expansion proposal goes and how many of those
proposed Carbon Projects Would Be Within that
15:10:52 Hmm.
15:10:58 Yeah. Oh.
15:11:02 Here it is here, the Carolyn Great Carolyn Greg, Kate, I am forwarding you the County data Tables for the trust, information
15:11:17 Yep, I'll send it to mark as well
15:11:24 There, you go.
15:11:28 Oh, and I think I got a later version with the trust information
15:11:41 Off the Press. But Usda is looking for folks to to join a committee on the Northwest Forest plan
15:11:52 Hmm just gotta see if I can.
15:12:04 I got arrested when they were creating the last Northwest Forest. Plan.
15:12:08 Yeah, protesting well, advocating for let's say, by shutting down.
15:12:13 I. 5. When Al gore was in Portland, yeah.
15:12:18 92 okay.
15:12:20 Yeah
15:12:23 So they might not want me on it. I don't know you.
15:12:29 You revealed yourself now, but I think you know we've got to bring those stakeholders in. Right.
15:12:32 Yes, share protests, and here we are on the other side of the desk. .
15:12:38 Oh, yeah. Those county tables, this county tables I just sent, do have all the trust information for you guys.
15:12:50 So our workshop, then next week is going to be to dig into this and come up with a granular recommendation for Dnr, or what We'd like to See yeah, because they've asked for
public input on their Carbon projects, and a couple of times, have reached out to us, saying are you
15:13:07 Gonna give us any input and I guess the one other thing
15:13:12 You know a lot of advocates, said, oh these young standards, we we want to see our legacy for us.
15:13:20 And this is something, you know I like to see a mosaic of of Different agents.
15:13:26 Put into this project. I'm still not
15:13:28 Not convinced of the science, whether or not I said, I just don't know.
15:13:34 Now I used to know, this is how as you learn things.
15:13:36 You go from certainty to uncertainty. But I'm not sure which trees sequestral more carbon or but what do you guys think about the standages is that is that a criteria.
15:13:49 In this that's a good question, the the stand ages in the proposed acres, in Jefferson County were younger than I thought they would be.
15:13:59 If you look at them. There's average stand age.
15:14:03 Is, yeah.
15:14:09 So that's the the Carbon, sequestration potential stand.
15:14:15 You know, right. There's in the growth potential.
15:14:20 So Peter just sent a link to a better, a better map.
15:14:27 That we can put a link to in the minutes of the meeting
15:14:37 No, I I I just opened it I'm gonna forward.
15:14:42 It to you, Carolyn
15:14:44 I he sent it to Jeff. Oh, okay, got it I'll forward.
15:14:49 It because Jeff Becc might not get for a while Greg, I sent it to Carolyn I'll send it to mark we're on the room. Together.
15:14:58 So this is This is map a map that he created in advance of our workshop.
15:15:08 And it includes the Carbon parcels
15:15:14 I'm not sure I can share greg's gonna
15:15:32 So you can zoom in and see
15:15:43 So the Red Polygons are the legacy, Forests, the Blue are the Carbon Project proposed. Parcels and the Brown are d. In our lands.
15:16:05 And the green boundary around Dava Bay is the natural Boundary, and the pink line.
15:16:12 Is the proposed expansion I've heard of the natural area
15:16:26 You can see, like Whimper, One of the actual Shape of
15:16:30 You can also see those other parcels. I was talking about that long skinny up that's just west of the Transfer station, and then these 2 up by the Straits, that's some Quimper
West and Quimper East those are the parcels, We're Going to be Getting Right with the Land
15:16:48 trust and then down just north west of you River Valley Favor Valley Sorts.
15:17:00 There is the egg and i parcel, this one up here, this long tall skinny one up here. That's the egg and I parcel, that I guess the land trust is interested in
15:17:16 I can't read is that State Force Purchase where what are you looking at?
15:17:22 The egg. And I want you to check them. Out
15:17:25 I'm Just Carrying I don't think it's that data is not on this map.
15:17:30 I don't think but may, or maybe it is it is it depends on the outline of the personal, I just can't tell it.
15:17:38 Oh, no!
15:17:45 Heaven, our Kevin Hitchcock made us a map
15:17:51 That has Those outlines, as the different Trust outlined
15:18:01 Anyway, obviously, we need more focus time to have a meaningful discussion about these parcels.
15:18:09 Hmm, okay, so that's our workshop next next Monday afternoon.
15:18:12 Yeah, Peter, did you hear that? Can you be here Monday afternoon, thumbs, up, or Chat to Carolyn or something we'll get a time figured out after the meeting today?
15:18:25 And I will reach out to you.
15:18:29 And to Afrc and Mallory anyway.
15:18:36 Okay, Bill Hunsucker is prepared to tell us what to do about public comment and executive sessions.
15:18:47 So this should be interesting for you, Gene ball
15:18:57 There, it is.
15:19:00 Welcome back, fill up. Tell us what you know about executive sessions.
15:19:04 And public Comment, an Opium Hanging.
15:19:07 So, so, if you make up, if you make a motion after after executive session, that's a decision, and you have to offer public comment on it before before voting
15:19:19 Even if even if folks don't know what the executive session was about
15:19:23 Well, they gotta know what the motion. Is right. So you frame the motion, and you offer public comments, and then you can vote
15:19:34 We did right
15:19:39 You're familiar hold on
15:19:38 And you're hold on
15:19:41 So they'll they'll know what you said in the motion
15:19:49 Hold on. We've got some on the agenda
15:19:46 Hold on!
15:20:01 By the way, this isn't the Guidelines
15:20:09 Hi!
15:20:10 We're having an.
15:20:10 We're having an Audio issue.
15:20:12 Oh, no! Worries.
15:20:15 Yes.
15:20:18 I'm sorry. Okay.
15:20:15 Yes, it was I must have hit it on accident.
15:20:31 Sorry that was my bad, so you're familiar with the 2 Motions.
15:20:31 We made today which entirely vague to the public what that means without the context of executive session, and that's fine that's that's just the way.
15:20:40 It has to be, okay.
15:20:40 Correct. so the motions haven't been made yet.
15:20:46 Oh!
15:20:45 Oh, they have. Oh, yeah, we made them the past, past. We just felt silly.
15:20:49 And we did take public comment.
15:20:51 Oh, what well.
15:20:53 We took public comment that the Public who commented that thought it was kind of nutty that they didn't know what they were commenting on
15:21:03 Hello!
15:21:02 Well, oh, hey, not everything, about opma is expect all the sense of the world.
15:21:12 Alright, but I think it clearly is a decision that you're making right, and so the the new Public comment rules say you're supposed to offer public comments before making a
decision
15:21:26 So when you say frame the motion I mean, we did not set the context for the motion, when we came out of executive setting, we just made the motion.
15:21:35 All. You gotta do.
15:21:36 Okay. Okay, I was just
15:21:38 That that that's that's framing the motion to me
15:21:42 Okay, someone, just said that you could make a reading of phone books.
15:21:47 Interesting, so Philip, text text
15:21:49 Yeah, I mean, the fact that it's not interesting. Or, I completely, understandable doesn't make it not a decision.
15:21:57 Right. Okay.
15:22:00 Kai has got another opium make question, as long as we're here and in the loose part of the Agenda.
15:22:05 Sure.
15:22:07 I read an Mrsc document the other Day, saying that if we had a Hybrid Meeting and there was we exceeded the capacity of the physical space that we would not have to cancel the
meeting but could offer Accommodations for folks and I'm Wondering your thoughts, on that
15:22:28 I have to look at the change, to be sure, but it's it it did make a change in that regard, whereas at the old law was that if you busted the capacity requirements, you got.
15:22:40 To cancel, the meeting I think it is different now with the changes that were that became it came into effect this year
15:22:48 For the thirteenth County policy. Is seats in our room capacity would be at 50% for meeting.
15:22:55 So if we met our our own capacity. What we then have to turn people or canceled
15:23:03 Did you hear that question
15:23:05 Yeah, sort, of I I think what she said was, we have our own capacity.
15:23:13 Yes.
15:23:10 Limitation, at 50% of the Venues And so that is that our number for purposes about Pma?
15:23:20 Yes answers. Yes.
15:23:17 Yeah, yeah, yes, so that's Why, the Forestry Workshop of the Library the other Night, the room Capacity was 80. But our Policies, says that We're at 50%. So we could allow 40
People in the Room and We got to 39 So
15:23:35 Right. So when you have a Hybrid meeting under the new rules, or under the new changes, to the statute, you have to have a physical place where people can show up to make comments
that's the primary change.
15:23:49 Hmm.
15:23:52 So we're doing we're doing everything right Carolyn, we're.
15:23:51 So, so, you yeah.
15:23:56 But we would not have had to cancel that meeting necessarily, but would we have had to make accommodations for everyone to make public comments, like one person, out one person
in to make public comment or something like that if we exceeded the capacity.
15:24:10 Yes.
15:24:13 At next week's, meeting on Forest Street
15:24:23 Yeah, 24. And a half, you can have one kid.
15:24:26 So I mean we that's a good
15:24:35 Great thank you
15:24:38 Our pleasure.
15:24:39 Anything else, for the ask, a lawyer segment. So I wonder.
15:24:44 Bye
15:24:44 If you'd wanna like, have a oh, go ahead, Philip.
15:24:47 No, no, I've got to make it probably an unwise joke. So I I won't
15:25:06 Alright, is that all you needed before
15:25:12 Alright, thank you
15:25:18 Okay, may I be devoted. Please
15:26:11 Oh!
15:26:19 It's back now, it's back now
15:26:39 I'm a massive email. Now.
15:26:42 Nope, not. Okay.
15:26:47 Hey? So I am gonna work on organizing a workshop for the Twelfth, and then should I organize a subsequent works out for the Nineteenth, that Talks, about the different Options,
with the Land
15:27:01 Reconciliation, transfer. But when we can make recommendations to DNA that they might not take us up on right right.
15:27:14 We can have our own ideas, but then they might come back, and say, we've got a better idea.
15:27:18 Let's try this or you know, I mean at some point.
15:27:20 It needs to be a conversation with them, not. It's really awkward.
15:27:25 This, like there's a week between times, times we can talk to each other, and then there's and then it's like organizing a Bunch of people, and then they Comment and then It's
a Week.
15:27:36 Before, so, so, yeah.
15:27:38 Me. I guess I feel like workshop, wise lining up the people that we might need the subsequent week would be ideal.
15:27:47 But Hopefully next week, while we're talking about beef, and Peter is that what we're talking about and Mallory and anyone from Dnr, Yeah.
15:28:03 It's Great to drive down for the meeting last week. But I don't.
15:28:08 Wanna well, he could be on zoom. Yeah, it would be drew or Brian, if We're talking about the specific parcels. They propose for the carbon, Project, so yeah.
15:28:22 Yup.
15:28:29 We don't even need any junior taxi district representation for this, because we're just
15:28:36 I think, we understand most of you know the very specific they Don't, Want to see a Drop of Revenue, go Anywhere, and then the Following Week if We're talking about Tools in
the Toolbox Tools in the Toolbox, Mallory, of Course
15:29:10 See? If well, I I Don't know, Denise, premier is still, working but the in the world of Carbon Sales or not but or maybe someone from Bonneville, Oh yeah, be we're trying to
15:29:30 Rules.
15:29:31 Hmm.
15:29:41 One way we've asked Monty about this as well, right.
15:29:45 I mean because the Roads found obviously as well and so what I last talked to Monty about this and he's not listening.
15:29:54 But I'll I can tell on. This again is that in terms of re I think the reconvance is the thing he's most concerned about because it affects him 2 ways right in terms, of revenue
coming from dnr to the Roads Fund and then also with reconvance requires it goes
15:30:11 To the Parks Department. So then, that's a draw on parks, and so
15:30:18 I talked to him after our conversation with Brian and drew from Dnr last week, and I said, Well, this is what we're considering these parcels North of one O 4, and you know
one of them is adjacent to the transfer station one of them is the potential extension of the
15:30:38 Ode South from Anderson, lake, State. Park, you know, there are there are public works reasons that these could be beneficial parcels.
15:30:48 But he said well, I could still work with Dnr on these.
15:30:51 So I I mean, we always want to be consulting with Monty on the steps we take forward some public works here we're talking about tools in the toolbox. They are they're going
to be what does that mean that we get or on payroll in public works you know is
15:31:16 That with that or our contract with Mallory, is longer or
15:31:21 Okay, I see that for the Forestry Workshop, I'm just saying this for the benefit of the Public, has a tentative time of 1, 30, next Monday, December the twelfth, 1 30, Pm
15:31:32 So for the Folks, Who Care about our Conversation Regarding Forestry, That's when we are planning to have that Discussion Granular digging into all the proposed parcels in the
Card
15:31:50 Yeah, are you thinking 90Â min for that
15:32:02 And I'm sending folks an email right now.
15:32:16 Great for us. Okay, good.
15:32:48 Okay, what else on this topic.
15:32:53 I mean, if we are maybe hoping to have a letter go out after next week.
15:33:02 Is that the idea? Let me do we want to talk about what else we wanted a letter.
15:33:07 I don't know. Is there anything else do you need that guidance, or you feel comfortable, and the body of the letter is just kind of the details of Yeah
15:33:18 I mean, I think we also want to say that we are interested in potentially considering reconvance of a few Parcels North of Highway, 104.
15:33:28 And and that's the only other specific talking point that I and think of I think touching based on on how invaluable it has been to have this dialogue with dnr, and and look
forward to you, know, working with with dnr of course, so that kind of
15:33:49 General statement, yeah, totally.
15:33:53 Okay.
15:33:58 Okay, anything else for this afternoon, anything on your guys's plates.
15:34:07 No, I don't think so.
15:34:11 Trying to think you know, been tossing around like should we be thinking about a legislative agenda ourselves or just kind of be working with the groups that we are already
working with I am fine, with that it's it's a heavy lift and of itself, but I am I think we're all
15:34:34 engaged on a number of issues or boards, or you know things that that we We dabble in anyway, but I also, am aware that I hold some of those in with no lines, with wax so you
know if there is a desire for the board to be more proactive and legislative
15:34:53 efforts might be good to discuss otherwise happy to just continue to kind of be bringing back updates,
15:35:01 We get ready. I didn't move in. If you think you still have the capacity.
15:35:06 I. I feel like it's it's been working well, and and I'm I don't feel the need just to create a legislative.
15:35:14 You know, agenda since we've got. We've been working on you know stress counties.
15:35:20 I mean, we've got things that we've been working on longitude and that you've been a strong voice for that.
15:35:26 So I'm I'm comfortable with that as well, I'm planning to to stick with my role chair, Co-chairing the Legislative Steering Committee, you know I I my Life Might get a lot more
Complicated with medical Stuff, in the new Year which Coincides with the
15:35:44 Legislative Session, of course so I'm just have to play it by ear.
15:35:49 And see if that's if it's doable to keep that up. So thank you
15:35:59 Sometimes
15:36:04 Yeah, next year.
15:36:16 I'm fine waiting till January and just, you know giving thought to if there are things that we want to move around I am less likely to want to shift much around myself this
coming year.
15:36:29 I'd rather continue with what I have just because I think it's gonna be Complicated year for me.
15:36:36 So but if we need to change things around, certainly well and the question of chair will come up then too.
15:36:45 So, I'm going to go through that then I being an ever drink, AD love interdisciplinary studies, and so shifting stuff around is always appealing but I'm I'm happy to stan pat
primarily, this Year I I think I do think shaking.
15:37:03 It up I did hear from you know Board member of the Mrc.
15:37:08 Who really appreciated that all 3 of the City Commissioners had had a chance on there.
15:37:13 So really understood kind of the Nuance and and minutia, of the Work of the Mrc, and I think there's a advantage to that you know, I'm very Ignorant of Kind of the Inner Workings
and Puget Sound Partnership and and Other other Groups but Don't
15:37:27 Don't need to shake it up. Zoom
15:37:32 It wasn't
15:37:38 Makes calendars, tough, though. Yeah.
15:37:44 I'm I'm happy to deal with it in the New Year I'm happy to do it on the third
15:37:52 It will say that I'm not gonna be vying for being chair next year. So
15:37:58 Of our Board Right Well Commissioner, Brotherson's turn on the rotation.
15:38:09 For a year, if there's some reason I should stick with it for another year.
15:38:13 I'm fine with that, too. But yeah, I know, so I'm not
15:38:29 Alright.
15:38:32 Here, right next to your copy of from your yeah, what we need that
15:38:47 I have your
15:38:50 Hmm, anything else, probably go to the order today
15:38:56 Nope. Okay. Well, if there's nothing else mark is, do you have anything else?
15:39:01 Do you want to share and we didn't do any of your calendaring or briefing, that's Fine this coming week.
15:39:08 I've got Admin Work out the Wazoo to get done
15:39:12 Maybe 10 agreements, or so I met with Cindy brooks and Ben Bauermeister They're looking for the number of Modifications, to the 5 Way, Agreement I met with Richard Davies from
Jefferson, Associated Council They I've had A
15:39:31 Severe tapering of Case Loads and that is contractual implications.
15:39:36 What do we attribute that to the backlog in the courts .
15:39:41 That was part of it, for 22.
15:39:45 We are accommodated, and the Board approved, the Modification to the Contract, where we gave them a constructive credit for the Pandemic and I mean, I have to get creative this
go around but and I think in fact that they might have let an Attorney, go because the case
15:40:02 Was so low but I have to attack that I had the 3 Community Center agreements to Redo or get the Conservation District Agreement, pretty Heavy Load oh, and all the Budget items
for next Monday so I'm I'm just Gonna be a Staff, We Need for the
15:40:21 Next week, at least
15:40:23 Not that our staff or weenies. I didn't need to reply that