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Subject:
Public Comments
Port Ludlow Marina Expansion
JEFFERSON COUNTY
DEPT. OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Date: July 14, 2000
This memorandum is a compilation of questions gathered from the community
through several public meetings, public notices and news articles, some of which
include:
. PL VC Development Standards Committee, April 6, 2000
. PL VC General Meeting, April 6, 2000
. Port Ludlow Marina Advisory Committee Meeting, April 11, 2000
. Port Ludlow Yacht Club Board Meeting, April 12, 2000
. PL VC General Meeting, May 4, 2000
. Public Notices posted late April, 2000 to the Bay Club, Beach Club, OPG
Development Office, Marina Store and Sales Office (taken out of the Beach Club and
Bay Club on July 1, 2000)
. News Articles in The Voice from February through April, 2000
What does the project entail?
The 100-slip expansion plan makes several changes to the marina layout. It will
add slips to the west ends of D-dock and E-dock. It will add an additional dock,
called F-dock to the marina footprint. A major trend in the marina industry is
toward larger and larger boats. All of the new slips will be 36 feet and larger and
some new slips will be up to 60 feet long.
The existing dinghy dock will be removed in order to let more light reach the
water, a desire of the Department of Fish and Wildlife people. Dinghies will be
relocated along the walkway in new racks. The racks will be similar to
bookshelves, allowing the dinghies to be stored on end. There will be some
overflow space for kayaks on the new docks, too. A public phone will be added
to the new docks.
When will you be starting construction?
Before any construction can begin, we must go through the permitting process.
We must get seven different permits from seven different agencies. The most
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challenging permit comes from the Corp of Engineers. Unfortunately the Corps
issuance of permits has slowed to a crawl as they grapple with new federal
regulations regarding salmon protection. There are currently over 900 permit
applications in the Corps backlog, with Port Ludlow being one of the largest. We
intend to construct the improvements once the permits have been received.
What is the water depth in the expansion area?
The new slips will be in waters from 18 feet to about 40 feet in depth.
Why are you adding only 100 new slips? Why not 200?
When Olympic Property Group and the community worked together during the
Planning Forum, we committed to limit Port Ludlow's development generally to
the limits identified in the 1993 Programmatic EIS (Environmental Impact
Statement). The EIS predicted 100 slips would be added.
Is the design flexible enough to allow another expansion in the future?
Yes. A and B docks could be reconfigured or expanded to the south or west to
provide additional moorage in the future. E Dock and the new F Dock could be
expanded to the east and an outer G Dock could be added.
Will you be replacing old infrastructure?
We anticipate that a number of existing facilities will be replaced as the new ones
are constructed. Exactly what and when improvements will be made to the older
docks is currently being analyzed by Reid-Middleton, the project's consulting
engmeers.
Is there anything inherent in the designs that would inhibit live aboards?
No.
Boat makers are finding that a 50' boat is not an efficient size and they aren't
making many. There are several 50' slips on the marina expansion plan. Can some
of these slips increase to 55'?
We will be increasing the slip size of most current proposed 50' slips to 55' - 60'
slips on E and F docks.
There is significant deterioration in the present electrical system. Will this be
upgraded?
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Yes, we will be addressing this in our Capital Improvement Plan, which IS
currently being prepared by Reid Middleton.
Roche Harbor makes picnic tables available to small boaters at the end of each day.
That would be a good service to provide to the smaller Port Ludlow boaters.
We currently have three upland picnic areas available.
Will residents get priority over non-residents?
To the extent reasonable, residents will be given preference.
Will the new plan meet the current and future kayak demand?
At the completion of the expansion the marina will double the space for dinghies
from 20 to 40. A new kayak dock will accommodate two new dinghy racks
allowing for the storage of 60 resident-owned kayaks and ten marina rental
kayaks. This issue can be revisited in the future if demands increase. Any
upgrades will depend on economic feasibility and does not depend on an
expansion plan.
How can dinghies tie up near the Inn?
There is existing signage on "A" dock that indicates where dinghies can tie up
northwest of the fuel dock.
Will all cleats be bolted through?
Yes.
Is the hoist included in the plan?
Any upgrade to the hoist will depend on its economic feasibility. This could be a
capital improvement in the future and can be done independently from the
expansion plan.
Will there be ladders on the docks?
Very few marinas have ladders. Ladders on float systems are often obscured by
the vessels moored in the slips. A person that has fallen in the water is much
more likely in an emergency to rely on the swim steps of nearby boats since these
are much more visible than a ladder would be from water level. In addition, the
upper handle portion of ladders on float systems must extend up above the float
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surface. Depending on the location of the ladder, this upper handle can be an
obstruction and cause damage to the boats that are entering the moorage slips.
Will there be an increase in garbage receptacles?
There are two existing dumpsters near the "B" dock ramp and there are trash
receptacles at the marina. We can have garbage collected more frequently to
rectify any increase in the generation of trash.
Can you add a sewage pump-out on the permanent guest side to encourage use?
The existing sewage pump-out location is often busy with a waiting line and is often
broken down.
We will explore the feasibility of installing a portable pump-out in the permanent
moorage area. We will attempt to repair broken pumps in a more timely fashion
and replace them when needed.
Is the seaplane float adequate?
The seaplane float is adequate for the current low demand. Fendering
improvements may be considered as part of ongoing maintenance and
improvements. If demand for seaplane facilities increases in the future, this issue
will be reexamined.
Will there be additional restrooms and parking?
The current expansion plan does not include additional restrooms or additional
parking. Additional restrooms are not recommended at this time due to the
unknown layout of the potential new resort. We will be doing a Parking
Management Plan to best utilize the current available parking. Parking issues will
be managed with the plan. For example, sign age will be added to direct boaters
requiring longer term parking (while then are out cruising) to park in lots away
from the waterfront. A drop off area will be designated for these vehicles.
Will there be improved lighting on the docks for greater visibility for guest's arrival
after dark?
The specific lighting system for the new docks will be established during the
design phase of the expansion project. Additional lighting on the existing docks
may be considered during this design phase and general upgrade planning for the
existing docks. We will bring details before the Port Ludlow Village Council
prior to a building permit application.
Shouldn't some kind of wave wall be installed on the outer wave wall?
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Currently boaters on the outer wave wall have the option to move their boats to
"A" dock, which is more protected in high winds during the winter season (A
Dock is for guest moorage and is generally vacant in winter). Port Ludlow Bay is
a highly protected cove with minimal fetch (distance over water that the wind
may blow). Permanent wave walls that extend into the water or above the float
surface add a large expense to the system since the float itself must be designed to
handle the increased weight and additional loads imparted to the system by the
impact of waves on the wall structure. The generally low exposure of the site
does not warrant the additional cost of wave protection walls on the float system.
Even with seasonal wave walls, the float would need to be designed to support the
additional weight and loads from the wall. In addition the wave boards would
need to be installed on each side of the float to prevent the float from tipping due
to uneven loading. When the seasonal wave wall was installed, the freeboard of
the float system would also decrease due to the extra loading.
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