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Zoe Ann Lamp
From: Randy Marx
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11 :28 AM
To: Zoe Ann Lamp
Subject: FW: Beckett Pt. situation
Sorry I was not keeping you up dated. I am in negotiations with the state about who
will be permitting what. Need a few more days
-p-...~ftl"lltahx
Always working for a safer and healthier Jefferson County
360 385 9444
From: Mike McNickle
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:15 AM
To: 'wayward farm'; wayne king; david sullivan
Cc: mkhays8@msn.com; Jim Parker; John Fischbach; Randy Marx
Subject: RE: Beckett Pt. situation
From my viewpoint, anything we can put into the ground is BETTER than what already exists at this site. Although I have to
admit I need to catch up with the current situation with Randy today, I do want to let you know that JCPH will gladly do waivers
for repairs if the situation, from a public health standpoint, can be improved without hesitation.
I will look into it asap and give everyone on this email chain an update.
Thanks!
From: wayward farm [mailto:waywardfarm@olympus.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:37 PM
To: wayne king; david sullivan
Cc: mkhays8@msn.com; Jim Parker; Mike McNickle; John Fischbach
Subject: Beckett Pt. situation
All:
Thanks for all the notes on this. My response to Jim is
next in this string, although sent before yours arrived.
My impression is that we just might be able to use
the procedurally nightmarish & so-costly outcome
Mr. Marx describes to enlist the big guns of all the
relevant State & US entities/agencies & local tribes to
consolidate the entire project into one action & do the
well-established Consolidated Permit process.
If I'm informed correctly, that sort of , all- in-one' Hearing
results in issuance of all necessary permits from all the
involved regulators.
-- Dana
.,.>.:.fi::;
Ya, Jim:
g1
3/28/2006
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Beckett Pt. situation
Whatta crock ofBP Septic effluent... (thanx 4 yr. rpt.)
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Agree we should move to get the project as a whole--in toto--made the subject of said hearing. In line with the
notion of dealing with all levels of permits in one combined proceedure, We need to get with the State Health &
Ecology + Federal folks --(& the Tribes???)-- to make clear to them, that--IN ESSENCE--IT'S THIS PROJECT OR
LIVE WITH THE XISTING DISASTERS.
WE TOOK ON THIS PROJECT TO HELP OUR CITIZENS, & TO HELP DISCO BAY. THE STATE &
TRIBAL/FEDERAL ENTITIES NEED, NAY: MUST! HELP SEE THIS THROUGH FOR & WITH US. A
"DEATH OF A THOUSAND SLICES" APPROACH FOR 125+/- SEPARATE PERMITS IS SO STUPID I
WON'T DESCRIBE IT FURTHER!!
THIS PROJECT IS A BENEFIT TO EVERY CITIZEN OF WASHINGTON STATE, & BEYOND.
-- Dana
Subject: RE: Becket Point
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:33:33 -0800
From: "David Sullivan" <dsullivan@co.jefferson.wa.us>
To: "Kings E-Mail..<kinghyd@olypen.com>.
"James parker" <jparker@jeffpud.org>,
"wayward farm" <waywardfarm@olympus.net>,
<mkhays8@msn.com>
Cc: "Mike McNickle" <mmcnickle@co.jefferson.wa.us>,
"John Fischbach" <jfischbach@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Wayne,
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I've asked Mike to look into this and expect to hear from him tomorrow.
David Sullivan
From: "Kings E-Mail..<kinghyd@olypen.com>
To: "James parker" <jparker@jeffpud.org>,
"wayward farm" <waywardfarm@olympus.net>,
<mkhays8@msn.com>
Cc: "Mike McNickle" <mmcnickle@co.jefferson.wa.us>,
"David Sullivan" <dsullivan@co.jefferson.wa.us>
Subject: Re: Becket Point
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 200616:11:59 -0800
Envelope-to: waywardfarm@olympus.net
Jim:
To me this is a Parametric and Jefferson County Environmental Health problem. This project has went on for how
many years??? This had better be a new law.
Maybe we should just pull the pin on this one. Let DOH and the County figure it out.
They can just continue to gravity flow the Raw Sewage into Discovery Bay.
At least the Crabbing will still good.
Randal must be a new guy. Is he an Engineer??? He should not be giving out recommendations. Has he ever been
to Beckett Point?? At High Tide?? I am sure he has never been out there. He would of not made that (50 Ft from
the Water) statement. Mitigation???
If the County has to look at each one on a case by case basis....Our grand Children will not li)f~)lQ~ge~Mh to fmish
~1
3/28/2006 ..... .... .'1:'"""'M"..?t~
Be~k~tt Pt. situation
or should I say start on this project.
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"Always working for a safer and healthier Jefferson County"
Wayne King
Jefferson County PUD Commissioner
District #3
Home 797-7491
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----- Original Message -----
FYI. A lot ofthe tanks may not be 50 feet from water. Can not see how it is possible. Wonder if they
have a defined high water mark. We may want to go back to the club and say it is just to hard.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Marx [mailto:rmarx@co.jefferson.wa.us]
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11: 13 AM
To: James parker
Cc: Mike McNickle; mamdouh.el-aarag@doh.wa.gov
Subject: RE: Becket Point
Hey Jim
It is state code (WAC 246-272-095010) that septic tanks, holding tanks, pump tanks, etc. need to be 50
feet from the water.. Besides it makes no sense to upgrade the septic system for the Becket point
community then have a bunch of brand new non-compliant tanks put into the ground. Some owners
will need to have there plumbing stub outs moved.
If it is physically impossibly to be 50 feet (<50' road to water for example) then an application for a
waiver from state standards is required and we would look at them on a case by case basis. We would
only approve the waiver if there is no other way . We also would require some form of mitigation.
Hope this helps
Randal Marx
Always working for a safer and healthier Jefferson County
3603859444
From: James parker [mailto:jparker@jeffpud.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 22,200610:03 AM
To: Randy Marx
Subject: Becket Point
Randy:
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3/28/2006
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Beckett Pt. situation
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I talked to parametrix yesterday. They asked if I could find out what your concerns were with
the location of the grinder pumps, and how we can work around it. In general the pumps were to
positioned where ever we could get them to fit. In most cases this would be on the street side, but in
some cases it would not. I am not too sure what the concern was. If the concern is that grinder pumps
should not be located on a sand bar, we need to know this - as far as I can see the whole area is a sand
bar. As to the side of the house, it appears there is water on both sides, see attached picture. I am not
sure if this is holding up the shoreline hearing, perhaps we should just have it as an issue for the hearing
to address.
Jim
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3/28/2006