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HomeMy WebLinkAboutLog220 Page 1 of 3 From: Rita Kepner [rkepner@wsu.edu] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:51 PM To: David W. Johnson Subject: RE: earthquakes # L~'t-E~ Page,. [ ot '".,m",_"_.~_'~""""~~''",'.~''"" '"~"'~'~1REc E 1 David W. Johnson JEffERSON COUNt( Den It has - in a limited way (unsatisfactory way). Ask DOE. They have some of the records. Call me to talk. You know that only about 1 of 13 inches of rain gets to the ground water aquifers - if you just take "one" off the "top" there is very little impact on the aquifer. You are just taking the "one" you would have pumped up - the other 12 still can do their gurgling duty and the "one" goes back down via home use and septic systems. Also - I just found out - you probably already know - that Jim Parker plans to use Reverse Osmosis to serve Marrowstone (he already hired CH2MHill to figure out what to do with the toxic brine). Seems that would be best done small, local- only to the homes that really claim they need it. According to what I read in the papers less than 25% show any need at all - so then about 300 homes will not need service - Why do pipes to the whole island for expensive RO water to a few? Why not let they people who need it do single or multi-family RO systems? To start getting potable water (I think there are about 6 who are hauling) they could subscribe to Culligan water or Olympic Springs or one of the other purveyors I see drive by. Like I said - many good options. From: David W. Johnson [mailto:dwjohnson@co.jefferson.wa.us] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 3:44 PM To: Rita Kepner Subject: RE: earthquakes I totally agree with the conservation measures and catchments once you have potable water. But what are the "many better, cheaper ways to get off island water to the few who really need it." Are you suggesting that the chloride levels will go down in contaminated wells if people start using catchments and less well water? That would be a very interesting study if it hasn't already been done - has it? From: Rita Kepner [mailto:rkepner@wsu.edu] Sent: Monday, May 15,20063:24 PM To: David W. Johnson Subject: RE: earthquakes How about community education? The PUD never tried to help people like they did in King County where they mailed out flow restrictors, low shower heads and helped replace high use appliances. Many people still have 5 gallon flush toilets - changing toilets to a low flush or a non- 5/16/2006 Page 2 of 3 water toilet would do wonders to improve a well. Rain catchment for non-potable uses is pretty cheap and easy. Just plumbing to the toilets would take substantial stress off of a well. I think I sent you the DOE and PUD readings of our well that measured 473 chloride 12/06/90 and then 24.3 chloride on April 28, 2003 - after using our catchment system for non-potable uses. Bill Graham did the measurement. Ask him. I suspect an earthquake a lot smaller than a 9 would still be very expensive to repair and might not cost any lives. Dr. Robert Forbes did a Port Townsend area study that showed that a 6.7 (I think I remember that correctly - not positive) would rupture Lord's Lake. The county should still have that study. If not I may have it buried somewhere. Building codes encouraging split systems for potable and non- potable uses would be a good start. I think there is a local developer intending to try some of them. Or talk to Eugene Bricklemyer - he lives in Port Townsend but works in Mexico with low income, low water communities (I think under a UN grant) to design communities to run with lots less potable water than people use around here. How long have you got to talk about ideas? - There are more. --Rita From: David W. Johnson [mailto:dwjohnson@co.jefferson.wa.us] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:26 PM To: Rita Kepner Subject: RE: earthquakes Yes, I've seen it. During a Cascadia Event (probable magnitude 9) broken water lines will seem insignificant compared with the death and devastation that will result. What are the better, cheaper ways to get off island water? Rain catchment is problematic and currently not approvable according to the Environmental Health Dept. From: Rita Kepner [mailto:rkepner@wsu.edu] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 10:56 AM To: David W. Johnson Subject: earthquakes Hi Dave, Are you familiar with the site I am copying below? In my tours around the US, many disaster recovery areas advocate for decentralized solutions for infrastructure. Has anyone looked at the problem that earthquake fault lines crisscross through the area the proposed Marrowstone pipe line is to go? There are so many better, cheaper ways to get off island water to the few who really need it. PUD said 11 Page LOG ITEM L-LO Z- otZ._, 5/1612006 Page 3 of 3 only about half a dozen people are "hauling" water. It seems the others have figured out alternatives (rain catchment for example). I know there already is a small line there - but it has had problems. Please forward this current earthquake link to all who may be interested. http://www.geophys.washington.edu/recenteqs/latest.htmIt shows the earthquakes in the last two weeks and is updated regularly. Recently there have been more than 100 quakes posted on the map. --Rita LOG ITEM # "2-2-D Page ~.~ ot3- 5/16/2006