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AI Scalf
From:
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To:
AI Scalf
Monday, December 05, 2005 10:15 AM
Michelle Farfan
Subject: FW: Hearing on Major Revision
-----Original Message---n
From: AI Scalf
Sent: Tuesday, November 29,20054:35 PM
To: 'Powers & Therrien'; Michelle Farfan
Cc: Elizabeth Van Zonneveld; Bruce Schmitz; Gregg & Pat Jordshaugen; LewisHale@aol.com; Dwayne Wilcox
Subject: RE: Hearing on Major Revision
Les
See responses within your letter.
AI
-----Original Message-----
From: Powers & Therrien [mailto:powers_therrien@yvn.com]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 6: 15 PM
To: AI Scalf; Michelle Farfan
Cc: Elizabeth Van Zonneveld; Bruce Schmitz; Gregg & Pat Jordshaugen; LewisHale@aol.com; Dwayne
Wilcox
Subject: Re: Hearing on Major Revision
AI:
I appreciate the prompt response. I must respectfully dissent the conclusions implicit therein. I have
spoken with members of the delegations that met with you from the community. It was not their
understanding that the issues of location and time for the open record hearing were the purpose of the
meetings although mention of the tentative time may have been mentioned by you. I am more concerned
with the absence of notice to the various interested parties who provided written comment to DCD about
the major revision.[AI Scalf] formal notice will come later You admit that you set the meeting after
consultation with and in response to the proponent.[AI Scalf] yes, I met with PLA on November 23,
they want the hearing ASAP Why were the remaining interested parties not consulted.[AI Scalf] it would
not be practical to call everyone They, with other members of the Ludlow Bay community, will suffer the
consequences of the decisions resulting from the hearing. It is not DCD, the proponent, or even the
hearing examiner that will reside at Ludlow Bay in the future. Rather it is the residents, the persons who
were not consulted that ill be. At least those that were interested enough to respond should have been
consulted about the new hearing date and location if the proponent was consulted. I understand that the
proponent objected to DCD's decision without prior notice to delay the hearing. For at least as pertinent a
reason, in my view more so, namely to assure that the critical issues underlying the proposed major
revision be thoroughly vetted with the community, I urge that the setting of the hearing should take into
consideration the participation of the community.[AI Scalf] I understand this In connection therewith, I wish
to draw attention to the voluminous response from the Ludlow Bay community to SEPA compliance on this
same matter. To make the participation of this population segment difficult, would violate the purpose of
the hearings process and the obligation of the public officials to watch after the interest of the public.
The list of discussees that you provided is without contact information, or, for that matter, complete names.
I would appreciate a complete list to permit me to confer with such persons about the matter of the hearing,
its time and 10cation.[AI Scalf] talking with my staff will only prompt them to ask me, setting the hearing is
up to Michelle and myself, to go beyond this you should contact my boss John Fischbach I also request
that you provide me with copies of correspondence or email exchanges with the proponent or its
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representatives about the cancellation of the prior hearing and the setting of the new hearing.[AI Scalf] I'll
forward you some of the emails Finally, I ask, considering the imminent appointment of a new land use
planner, whether she should not be involved in this decision.
I would appreciate a response to this letter.
Les Powers
----- Original Message -----
From: AI Scalf
To: Powers & Therrien; Michelle Farfan
Cc: Elizabeth Van Zonneveld ; Bruce Schmitz; Gregg & Pat Jordshaugen ; LewisHale@aol.com ;
Dwayne Wilcox
Sent: Monday, November 28,20052:12 PM
Subject: RE: Hearing on Major Revision
Les
Scheduling of a land use hearing is part of the Project Planner responsibility along with the Planning
Clerk in cooperation with the Hearing Examiner.
The key word is public. So I agree with you on this matter. That is why most of us do this type of work.
I did talk with PLA after I had cancelled the Dec 6 hearing, they called to complain that I didn't seek there
consultation prior to cancellation. I have talked with Elizabeth, Dwayne, John, Larry and Bruce at other
times as well. As well as Mike Bergstrom and Michelle, Rose Ann, Stacie, John, Allen and Loring.
Irv wants the Fort. I think he likes the setting. Including audio, seating with good views, layout of the
room, ability to take public comment.
AI
-----Original Message-----
From: Powers & Therrien [mailto:powers_therrien@yvn.com]
Sent: Monday, November 28,2005 1:02 PM
To: AI Scalf; Michelle Farfan
Cc: Elizabeth Van Zonneveld; Bruce Schmitz; Gregg & Pat Jordshaugen; LewisHale@aol.com;
Dwayne Wilcox
Subject: Re: Hearing on Major Revision
AI:
You make reference to "impossible" and "everyone's schedule". I have not received any notice of
any final schedule of a hearing or making inquiry whether the hearing is convenient to my
schedule. Hence, "everyone" must exclude me. Who else is excluded? Perhaps the Port Ludlow
community? Did scheduling involve the proponent? If so, who was contacted? If so, is the
proponent more important than the Ludlow Bay community? I think you need to consider whose
convenience is important, the public who is to be served by "public servants", the "public servants"
themselves, or the proponent.
Please give me a list of persons with telephone numbers and em ail addresses of each person
whose schedule is adversely affected. I will undertake to correspond with each. Please
understand, the purpose of the hearing is to involve public input. You appear to consider one or
more unidentified persons' schedules more important than facilitating public input.
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Les Powers
----- Original Message -----
From: AI Scalf
To: Powers & Therrien; Michelle Farfan
Cc: Elizabeth Van Zonneveld ; Bruce Schmitz; Gregg & Pat Jordshaugen ;
LewisHale@aol.com; Dwayne Wilcox
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: Hearing on Major Revision
Les
It's impossible and won't work out trying to accomodate, or make exceptions for everyones's
schedule.
I reviewed the options with Irv, as we had a three day hearing at the Fort a couple of week's
ago. He wants the Fort.
AI
-----Original Message-----
From: Powers & Therrien [mailto:powers_therrien@yvn.com]
Sent: Monday, November 28,20059:54 AM
To: AI Scalf
Cc: Powers & Therrien; Elizabeth Van Zonneveld; Bruce Schmitz; Gregg & Pat
Jordshaugen; LewisHale@aol.com; Dwayne Wilcox
Subject: Re: Hearing on Major Revision
AI:
I spoke with Mr. Jordshaugen yesterday. He said that he and Mr. Lewis will not be able to
attend a meeting in January. Because of the importance of their participation, I ask that
the meeting be rescheduled to a time when they are able to participate. Your assistance
is appreciated.
As to the remaining issue, I do not believe Mr. Berteig's convenience trumps the needs of
the community that is most affected by the proposed Major Revision. Mr. Berteig lives in
Seattle. He is certainly able to attend a meeting at Port Ludlow as easily, if not more so,
than at Fort Warden. Since the proponent has held meetings, including scoping meetings
at Port Ludlow, to discuss the proposal in prior iterations, I think it is only reasonable that
the hearing be held here also. I renew my request that the meeting be scheduled where
the residents and property owners impacted by the proposal are located.
I appreciate your consideration in these matters.
Les Powers
----- Original Message -----
From: AI Scalf
To: Powers & Therrien; Michelle Farfan
Cc: Elizabeth Van Zonneveld ; Dwayne Wilcox
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:20 AM
Subject: RE: Hearing on Major Revision
Les
DCD is trying to confirm Jan 17 and 18. The location became difficult as the BOCC
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courthouse chambers has a occupancy limit of 28 and the courthouse first floor
conference room holds the same. The Superior courtroom is not available for such long
hearings, nor is District court. In talking with Irv he preferred Fort Worden over
Port Ludlow. So that is where the hearing will be held. Notice will be provided once the
site and time is confirmed.
AI
-----Original Message-----
From: Powers & Therrien [mailto:powers_therrien@yvn.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:42 AM
To: AI Scalf
Cc: Powers & Therrien; Elizabeth Van Zonneveld; Dwayne Wilcox
Subject: Hearing on Major Revision
AI:
I was told by another resident at Ludlow Bay that the hearing on the Major
Revision has been rescheduled for, I recall, January 17th, and that the hearing
would be held at Fort Warden. I have not received notice of either. I would
appreciate formal notice as an interested party.
I also wish to suggest that the hearing be moved to one of the convention
facilities at Ludlow Bay to encourage local participation. Our community is
composed to a significant extent of retired persons. It would be much easier for
them to attend and participate if they did not have to drive twenty extra miles
each way. Ludlow Bay is the situs of the matter. It is closer for Mr. Berteig. It
has been used by the proponent to hold meetings in the same issue at which it
promoted the project. It seems fair, cost effective, and in keeping with the
purpose of obtaining local involvement in land use decisions to hold the hearing
at Ludlow Bay rather than at Fort Warden. Neither is officially the court house
where the hearing should formally be held.
I would appreciate consideration of this matter.
Les Powers
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