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09:01:16 Good morning, happy December twelfth to everyone and I will call this December Twelfth, 2022 Meeting of the Jefferson, County Board of Commissioners, to Order I hope everyone.
09:01:29 Had a good weekend, and found some fun out there in the world.
09:01:35 I, as we always do. We start our meetings with public comments.
09:01:41 So if you've joined us this morning and have a comment.
09:01:44 You would like to Share please Use, the raise hand, button at the bottom of the Zoom screen I don't see anyone on the phone we'd love to hear from members of our community,
this Morning, you have something you want to check in about
09:02:06 We are gonna have an update from Dr. Barry. this this morning at 9 45, which is different from our usual schedule, with her of Doing the third, Monday of each month last week,
the hospital was getting very close to Capacity with Pdf in the Pediatric
09:02:26 department. And I just got personally nervous and wanted an update from Dr.
09:02:32 Barry and I thought I bet you were the rest of the community, or at least some of the community is interested as well, so that's Dr.
09:02:38 Barry graciously made time for us this morning, and we'll be with us for a shorter update this morning I said, can we have 15. Minutes.
09:02:44 So she will give us an update, and then answer, a few questions from the questions that have been coming into Kptz, and this update will be broadcast, kptz, miraculously, is
jiggered their schedule, to allow for the update, to be broadcast, this morning so grateful
09:03:03 for that as well as I mentioned to Carolyn on my way in this morning.
09:03:07 I often think about what I'm grateful for on my drive in my 15Â min from Lovely District, 2.
09:03:18 And this morning. I was feeling very grateful for our staff, so Carolyn and Mark, and Adel and Julie Just calling you out by name just really grateful over the last year, I
guess me being coming To the End of being Chair, for the First time as Commissioner just Realizing how
09:03:37 Much support you all give us as a team up here and we couldn't do this without you and I'm also grateful that our for our Hr team of Sarah and Kristen and Judy, Shepherd coming
on as Finance Manager this Year We've just done a lot.
09:03:55 Of really great improvements to strengthen the capacity of the Commissioner's Office, and also just the county in general so that that's my moment of gratitude for this week
you're, here not Seeing Any Hands Go Up Can't Believe the people I See, on the List are Gonna be quiet today, but
09:04:16 That's fine let's see and we were gonna have somebody call in.
09:04:24 But that hasn't happened yet. So
09:04:27 Classes, please I guess we could do consent agenda and then come back for public comment We'll leave public comment opened until 9.
09:04:36 30, as we do and We'll consider consent, agenda and discuss that now and then come back for public comment, maybe maybe Review of Consent, Agenda, will sparkle up some Comments,
so anything that anyone wants to call out from consent, agenda, this, morning.
09:04:54 Good stuff. I had a question about number 4, basically, or you know, cdl training is this kind of a new, I mean, are we setting a precedent? Here, I guess which is I'm not not
opposed to but as as folks do need or is that something that we'll, we'll continue to offer is is
09:05:13 Cdl Training when when Required for Us Staff Member I think so we We're having Difficulty finding applicants with Cdl and so to alleviate the Shortage of Staff that are Qualified
to Operate having the Equipment in public Works, I'm Covering that Cost makes makes good
09:05:31 Sense no, it's analogous to the retention and hiring Bonuses and Corrections and so
09:05:38 You know I support this certainly, if we're going to spend that much money getting the Cdl for somebody we need to be assured that we'll recoup our investment over the ensuing
years that was a 4 year commitment to Zoom I remember talking about this and I think there
09:05:56 Was discussion of a 4 year commitment. Yeah
09:06:00 Yeah I I think it's I think it's great.
09:06:02 I still I'm always a little skeptical about the enforce enforceability of those you know.
09:06:09 I don't know. I call Northern Exposure clauses in my head, but
09:06:13 Whatever those are called before you, the the 4 year commitment, but I think it's great.
09:06:18 You know, I, just support training in general and to to bring our staff to increase their their abilities, to to serve the county and their own what you'll see when we enter
into a new Bargaining, cycle in January is the county, thinking outside the Box, and trying to be even more
09:06:37 Creative than we have been. with our bargaining units and ensuring that we have the talent we need to continue providing services.
09:06:45 Great.
09:06:49 We can wait. Okay, I've got a question about number 7.
09:06:54 But Wsu Extension, Salary support. Do you know how the the small Farm Position works because it that serves 3 counties, it also serves column and Kitsp, counties, but are we
carrying the whole salary for that position, yeah, that's, a good question
09:07:19 Doesn't. It doesn't say no and it's it's given what I.
09:07:26 Know the pay scale is the Wsu the 48,000 that's in there.
09:07:31 Is the bulk of the salary, if not all of it.
09:07:36 Yeah, I would think so. that that's something you might wanna look into just is that kind of fairly allocated that's a good. Point.
09:07:47 Yeah, and and I I think we have a couple of reciprocal arrangements.
09:07:52 Where in this case, we might be shouldering more of the burden than a okay, we might be shouldering less and I can check with Bridget Greg okay, that would be great mark gonna
pull this till later in the day.
09:08:05 And and maybe it well, and what what if we are shoulder?
09:08:12 No, we need not support, paying right I don't know. Fair.
09:08:16 Yeah, I mean, it's it's tricky. We have the smallest county by far, of those 3.
09:08:21 It it does seem a little unfair that we'd be shouldering all of it.
09:08:27 But I also don't want to hold up that work.
09:08:31 Support comes into play in January, right exactly and so so you have an answer on that I would recommend that we approve.
09:08:41 This, and then pursue something after the first of the year.
09:08:45 Okay, that sounds, good.
09:08:48 I would just point out on number 11, we're just clarifying the term for chair, Johnson on the Mrc.
09:08:59 There seem to be a gap in a in a letter, and or a reemployment letter at 1 point.
09:09:07 So that was clear. Okay, okay, but I was part of that discussion.
09:09:10 So I just wanted to be available to answer questions. If there were
09:09:17 Any Other Items on consent that anyone wants to talk about Chris.
09:09:24 Just walked in i'm thinking is something wrong with my hair today.
09:09:31 I like in the camera, or the screen, oh, no, that's fine.
09:09:41 Okay, so, I'm happy to move to a proven adopt consent. Agenda.
09:09:46 Second, all in favor, bye, bye, and Send agenda, passes unanimously, and from my Angel on the Left here I know that Roger short has joined Us in the room to make a public comment
this morning Roger you are Free You're Free to make a Comment You'll have 3
09:10:08 Minutes. Okay, thank you we're Informationers Roger Shark after 3 big fires and Timer comes.
09:10:16 And I know 4 decades of trying to make the place Compliant.
09:10:22 We're hearing that it's being cleaned up and people's making comments about well, it's about time and I don't know the Commissioners are how involved they are there, if you
stay or Whatever but We're Getting One place Cleaned up and there's something about
09:10:40 things, you get momentum going. It should be nice to be able to keep momentum going on a couple of other sites that I know you're working on and I know it's.
09:10:50 Been very expensive, and things are going on, but it sure gives a different feeling.
09:10:55 Now in the community, I'm also involved in a compliance thing that I swear up and down.
09:11:00 I would not do anything until I found out that something was done on
09:11:04 On on this property. So I guess. Now I asked to be more responsible for them.
09:11:12 Maybe mistakes. That I made which is actually kind of the Covid cause problems, but that's, not the issue today.
09:11:22 Just thank you for getting 4 decades and stuff, going and thank everyone else.
09:11:28 He was involved in. And thank you right
09:11:38 Public comment period later on if you'd like to later it's on the
09:11:45 Hello, thank you! Oh, hang on!
09:11:50 Anybody else, who's joined us this morning on zoom interested in making a public comment.
09:11:59 You can use the raise hand button at the bottom of the zoom screen.
09:12:02 I don't see any phone numbers. There, so zoom is your Option today.
09:12:10 Okay. Not seeing any hands, go up.
09:12:28 It's not our check on ours it's, not our check markets has okay, no I want to try that.
09:12:41 Hmm okay, well, I'll leave public comment.
09:12:46 Open, until 9, 30, but would anyone care to reply to Roger? I know, I would.
09:12:52 But I think you can have first stab at it. Okay, well, I think, you're referring to Glendale Farm.
09:12:58 Roger and as you know I was part of the land trust team.
09:13:04 When we worked with Kirk, to put the conservation.
09:13:07 He's then on Glendale Farm and It was a personal priority of mine to help that project along.
09:13:15 When I got into my Role as Commissioner. So it's taken a big effort of a lot of people on the county team.
09:13:25 Do help move that along, and also I would give a lot of credits to the family for playing, a leadership role in the Cleanup that's happened thus far at Glendale Farm.
09:13:36 And I know there's a lot more plans. So it's it's
09:13:40 It's a team effort. It takes a village, and in this case it truly is a village attacking, the problem.
09:13:46 And I'm Super grateful, and look forward to the the work ahead.
09:13:50 As well. So Yeah, that's my thought on that that issue I mean, I'll just I'll say both echo.
09:13:58 What you said Heidi and that both staff have staff put in Hundreds of hours working on this and you know the real Work's been done, by the family, and they continue to do it
and it's been really Impressive to see the progress that they're making and what seem like almost an
09:14:13 Intractable problem so you know, sometimes, you know, a crisis is an opportunity, and and it feels like progress will continue to be made and I'm glad that it's had a positive
impact on on you roger and your and your you know willingness to take on issues.
09:14:28 We all have. You know, we always have stuff in our backyard.
09:14:31 So I appreciate that it's a change agent and really kudos go to the family that are doing clean it up faster than the county did.
09:14:41 If we just had to take on that work ourselves. So really impressed with it yeah, it just reminds me how how important code compliance is and great, were you around in the early
days and before we had a compliance.
09:14:58 Officer, and it was you know, you just see how if if people feel that it's not fair, that that they're being asked to do something when their neighbors aren't being asked to
there's a social contagion, there and it's it's it's great to hear Roger Kind
09:15:13 Of demonstrate. How, when the rules are fairly applied to everyone.
09:15:17 When everyone is being held to a standard, then you're more likely to get more people willing and able to to cooperate.
09:15:25 So great to see that. And we now have 2 code. Compliance officers, who are skilled and you know, bring a lot to bear on those positions. And just this reinforces how important.
That is
09:15:38 Yeah, and I would also, put a kudos out to my colleagues.
09:15:43 Here my Commissioner colleagues, because it we've been involved in in the recipe for the Solution.
09:15:48 And I think that, like I said, it really takes people at all.
09:15:52 I have all stripes in this situation, and I I want to underscore calling out the kids
09:16:02 Who have visited, been cleaning up the property themselves and and funneling their own resources into that so super grateful for everyone, and anyone else with us this morning
who would like to make a public comment
09:16:20 Please use the raise hand button at the bottom of the Zoom screen.
09:16:27 Well, I say I'll keep public public comment open until 9 30. So I will.
09:16:31 But no one's raising their hand this morning, so and we don't have anything until 9, 45 Dr. Barry will join us.
09:16:42 Then so do we take over, do we take a break, or we can just calendar it.
09:16:51 Or we can do calendaring, right? Okay, Let's talk about what we did last week.
09:17:00 The wants to start. I can start
09:17:05 Let's see hmm, with you all here on Monday, Tuesday.
09:17:14 Had a meeting with Bob and Linda Farris from gathering place a nonprofit that has Served the Developmentally disabled community here in Jefferson County for a Long time I've
known them for 20 some years when they have been great Partners in
09:17:32 Providing recreation, Enrichment, and also some entrepreneurial skills.
09:17:38 To the Dd. Community, and they are they're looking for a new home, for their facilities, for both, educational, as well, as their dog, biscuit, Making, so they're in a building
at the port, and also in the 2 Buildings, in the Port Scoop, them and Point
09:17:55 Hudson and like the Port is planning to re purpose those buildings.
09:18:01 So Just fyi be on the lookout for opportunities for them.
09:18:07 They've gotten a sizable grants, they're they're hoping to to build so they can either work with rawland or or potentially do some leaseholder improvements, so Talk, to mark
about it and just you know to give if the county could be of assistance, I think they would be a really
09:18:26 Strong partner, and you know, if we have any land that would be available, or so did they mention the fairgrounds.
09:18:35 They, did. Yeah, yeah, I remember in talking to Danny, there was some early conversations about the fairgrounds being an option.
09:18:43 Yeah, they are looking into, that, yeah, that's one of the options.
09:18:45 But you know, just they've had a couple of things fall through and
09:18:51 So they're not certain that it's gonna work out at the Fairgrounds, and they have a kind of a relatively short timeline to get something secured for this grant Funding so they
Don't want to lose so if you can if you think of any Opportunities, Well did you Talk.
09:19:05 About specific ideas with them, I mean, are there other no I went to mark and said, Hey, could we brainstorm if you know, if there are any county properties that would be appropriate
since us?
09:19:17 I think mark, and maybe Chris will get pulled into that conversation.
09:19:21 Yeah, wanted to put it in bug in your ears, too.
09:19:25 That they're on the lookout, we had our Transit Authority Board Composition, conference, and after many years of tossing.
09:19:34 This around did decide to expand the Transit Authority Board decided to add 2 positions to that board one from specifically, from an elected member from a school board, and
then also a second elected member from any of our public Entities, here, in the county, and one of them, must live in South, county, district, 2, or
09:19:55 3, So, feel good about that recommendation which will go before the entire Board for appro final approval next week, this week.
09:20:04 I can't remember soon fifteenth something like that Wednesday, Let's See.
09:20:14 Oh, so I'm dealing with medical stuff, all day.
09:20:18 Wednesday, Thursday had a good meeting with Mallory and Denise from Chickadee Forestry, we'll talk a little bit more about that later with the letter to Dnr Let's See talked
with Peter Bales that day, and then had some more medical stuff Friday was in
09:20:38 A Olympia, most of the day, with the Riparian habitat Roundtable, the Last of the Governor's Round Table on that issue, and I we have some final Recommendations and I did bring
Them to Kind of Summarize them for you I Don't know if
09:20:52 We wanted to do that now, or weights so generally so again, this is you know the tribes, and the the tribes really convincing the governor, that the way we manage Riparian have
a tab is insufficient we you know continue to lose salmon runs, in almost all
09:21:14 Watersheds in Western Washington, in particular, but statewide and this is with you know, literally billions of dollars being thrown at this problem, the tribe is really recognized
the Degradation.
09:21:26 Of riparian, habitat, as the biggest issue, and I think backed by science part of this Process, was a very extensive literate rich literature.
09:21:34 Review, looking at a effectiveness of all the voluntary programs across the state of which there are like 50 and really coming to the conclusion, that they, are not working
or not working adequately to reverse the the trend of degradation, so the egg community of course, very
09:21:58 Unhappy to be kind of called out, as the the ones to fix this, but it is you know, largely existing egg that makes existing makes protection of existing Riparian areas, difficult,
part of the challenge of this is that it really is, letting urban, areas off the Hook it's a
09:22:15 Ton of degradation in urban areas. But we don't talk about you know, tearing out buildings along riparian habitats.
09:22:23 So it is, a it is a conundrum asking egg, really to you know, be the ones to shoulder the burden.
09:22:32 But there was some someone that in the community, the community really still wants to focus on right.
09:22:39 Have voluntary programs and incentives tribes really want a regulatory framework.
09:22:45 Yeah, yeah, specifically, that site, potential tree height, which is called out in the fish and Wildlife Guidance.
09:22:53 So this was these were the issues that we had to to kind of reckon with and that just to summarize the recommendations that are being made which are really kind of compromised
position, one is to protect every bit of habitat that is intact so no additional loss of any
09:23:16 Habitat Site potential tree. Height is recognized as the goal and but there should be a recognition that it will not be achievable in all places, a need for increasing funding
for voluntary programs as Well as Monitoring and Enforcement Setting Benchmarks, in Voluntary
09:23:43 Programs, that voluntary programs have to demonstrate that they are reaching improvements, providing uplift.
09:23:50 And if not, then a regulatory or acquisition program, would need to be put in place and setting, a goal, a timeline, for the Site potential tree, Height to be Included in most
planning processes, including Shoreline Masterpiece and Growth Management which will you mean that at some point you
09:24:16 Will be required. Buffers will be required to meet that but kind of in a phase in approach so those are the immediate recommendations lot more detail.
09:24:26 I'm happy to to share the final we were still looking at a draft report on Friday, but have the question, yeah, please, the Site potential tree.
09:24:37 Height, Implementation of buffers is that are they talking about on?
09:24:42 All types of streams or I'm sure there's a table, right that goes with it's for fish, Bearing and nonfish Bearing because temporarily is you know, such, a yeah, yeah, so even
a nonfish bearing, when that flows into fish, Bearing, Streams and so side.
09:25:03 Potential 3 Height, is the height that a tree would grow to in 200 years, that becomes the buffer width, which is massive,
09:25:13 Where that starts is a questionable, too. And some guidance.
09:25:16 It's calls, for the edge of the flood plane.
09:25:20 So it could already be a 100 feet out, and then you add another 200 foot buffer.
09:25:25 So there's gonna have to be exceptions based on small lot sizes.
09:25:33 Yeah, exactly where that it would. It would be too large to taking so the counties of course, have real concerns about it.
09:25:41 And and are concerned about the takings, issue. We asked for a lot more clarification on what is the responsibility of local government.
09:25:47 And could we really pushing hard for a a safe harbor, so that any legal challenges the Counties would be protected from legal challenges.
09:25:57 Since the State is implementing this so we should get a final draft like this week, before it goes to the Legislature and the last those last few things will be ironed out not
anticipating a new Bill this Session but the following so big big Change we'll have certainly have Impacts.
09:26:19 Here, we did not get the the Level of Watershed Planning we hoped it does call out the need for watershed planning.
09:26:25 But something, I was really hoping for was that they would allow for a recommend that watersheds be asked to meet certain performance, requirements, and that water should groups
would be allowed to kind of designate how and where they implement the improvements and those wider buffer wits to to get to the same performance
09:26:44 measures? It does call out the need for some watershed planning but it doesn't.
09:26:48 It doesn't provide them. The recommendation doesn't provide the authority.
09:26:51 To actually, kind of make those decisions, but it doesn't not allow it either.
09:26:58 Just allow it. So we'll see and just when we did, went through our critical area, we're in Atlanta Shoreline, master program, we worked a lot on on creating performance standards,
for Ag specifically, in Riparian Zone specifically to be Able to demonstrate that
09:27:16 They were you know, contributing to ecosystem services contributing to, you know, you know, through Planting and Orchard, shading, the the the Riparian Area, and not having
Livestock, you know Up, to the Border, of the stream is there, do you think There's going to
09:27:29 Be a place for that in these recommendations or are they kind of saying, do.
09:27:34 You need the potential tree height buffer, Prescriptively, all right.
09:27:40 Very intense. Yeah, that's we weren't able to get to
09:27:44 Answer there There certainly is the hope for that. But the the problem is that yeah, the tribes just feel like, as soon as you have a loophole.
09:27:57 Then it's going to be exploited, yeah, yeah, and so we know that no net loss has not been effective.
09:28:06 But you know, is there a way to demonstrate and again, that's where I think on a watershed scale that really makes sense it's harder to measure that on a one.
09:28:16 Yeah, one, personal, but so I I would guess the legislature is gonna have to come up with more compromise, and more, adequate management, options, just because it's going to
be a very, difficult.
09:28:30 To get anything through the legislature that's right.
09:28:34 This ambitious but I think the the sense is something is going to happen, and it's better to be kind of at the table, and be providing some alternatives, then, not because we
know that the Governor, and the legislature, are very sympathetic to the tribes, Smi and think we have to
09:28:53 Do something really bold here, but you, know, if there are ways that we can meet those same performance measures like, give us a chance to demonstrate it.
09:29:02 And you know it would appear for example, that chimicum is one of the watersheds that has not lost salmon.
09:29:08 Runs, so you know, we should, you know, potentially be allowed to continue the good work We've been doing here so and salmon maybe the same, I'm not.
09:29:18 Sure I I think there's there runs of typically an increasing and less 25 years.
09:29:23 Yeah, so it's a bit of a you know, it's like we've been doing good work.
09:29:33 And that is that shows and yet are we? Gonna then be held to the same standard to places that have have not kind of done, that that work in the last, 25 years.
09:29:42 So I'll I'll report back when I have a final recommendations, and then it's something.
09:29:47 We'll be talking about a lot. The next couple of years, really glad we're at the at the table.
09:29:51 Yeah, it was a great process. Okay. So that I only got through what?
09:29:57 Oh, no. That was funny! Yep, that was let me just make sure I didn't miss anything.
09:30:07 There,
09:30:12 That was my week alright let's see, I was of course here with you guys on Monday, and then we had a Northward canal chamber meeting down in Brennan to go it up was lovely, and
we have a a mixer this this Week Thursday, the Fifteenth I
09:30:33 think at the Cool Billies, which used to be twanas down in Quilsey, everyone's Welcome It's Kind of Just a coming out party, for the Newly Regalvanized Northward, Canal Chamber
of Commerce on Tuesday, the big Thing, was the Board Composition, Conference
09:30:49 that Kate Covered well, excited to bring that to the whole board next week.
09:30:55 I think, we let's see, agenda planning on Wednesday for the Board of Health, Meeting, this Week talking Climate Change, and Some Fees, we have a Hearing, this Week, for Fees,
so went over that join, the first gonna Round table, about a a Tourism, Strategic, Planning Effort for the
09:31:20 North Hood, Canal, or Olympic Peninsula.
09:31:23 I should say we put $10,000 into this effort that had been kind of stopped by Covid for a couple of years.
09:31:31 It's been regalized. The art. This is just to form the Rfp right.
09:31:36 Now it's just Chlam and Jefferson County Involved We're gonna reach out to Mason and Grace Harvard County As we get a little farther along with the idea Is to Make a Holistic
Stranger and of course the some of the Overtourism, the last Couple, of years
09:31:51 has change the theme of the the Exercise a little bit, but good, we're having another meeting just to to work on the On the Rfp really and Debbie Wardrop is who used to be on
our Tcc worked with the Tribe is is Managing, that
09:32:08 rfp Process and Discussions, of how housing impacts were a part of it, not not huge, I'll amplify that a little bit more I mean, my only contribution was that you know more,
and more I hear from communities you, know don't ruin, what we have by bringing a bunch
09:32:25 of out of town folks, and so it's part of his demonstrating the economic benefits of tourism, to even our smaller communities, and finding that that balance of sustainable Tourism,
but Workforce, housing did did certainly come up I also met with Peter Bales, and then I Missed the Clean Water
09:32:42 advice, committee. Thank you for attending in my stead.
09:32:47 Good Behavioral Health Consortium Meeting Couple of programs, we talked about funding with that our core grants, one expanding some of the harm reduction efforts to bring out
distribute, narcan and kind of going straight to the Unhoused Population, now Expanding the Scope of that I'm really
09:33:07 Excited about. You know meeting the problem where it often lives.
09:33:11 We also heard about the hairs, program. You might know about this, heidi, it was I have to say a little bit of a surprise, for a lot of the Stakeholders.
09:33:19 There, but they the association of cities. Granted poor towns in East Jefferson, you know, 4 million dollars to stand up a an embedded Health Care Profession Mental Health Care,
professional into the Fire Department, and so that program is Standing Up really Quick and It's exciting also a
09:33:43 Little just wear it exactly, you know, some of their slides, talked about some of the examples in Kitsap County has has a has the setup, and in Jefferson, County, a lot of the
issues they would be going it's kind of after the fact Right you know you have crisis response in the Emts.
09:34:02 And the fire, district, and then through those 911 calls, then they reach out to this cares unit, and they kind, of do, case management, after after crisis follow up and it's
an emt, and a mental Health professional as a team and you know almost 50% of the calls were for fall so is it a
09:34:22 Behavioral health issue, you know and and with a their hiring right now, and Emt that'll work for East Jefferson Fire and Rescue and I don't know it was it was Exciting and
a Little New and some of the Stakeholders like Dr.
09:34:40 Carbon who Manages, all the Emts had not heard of it.
09:34:43 So so you know as a result, I invited the the city to to join the Behavioral health consortium, but exciting program and look forward, to Hearing more, and I Volunteered to
go on a ride along with one of the Kitchen county programs.
09:34:57 Because I'd love to see that in action. Yeah, no, it was that where law enforcement, navigator wouldn't be involved in spread, because we have many of these crises don't necessarily
involve, law.
09:35:14 Enforcement, but rather or an emergency of you know that emts get called out to so it just it puts that mental Health Profession there.
09:35:22 I think Clown County has an Embedded Msw and they're one of their Fire Departments.
09:35:27 So I think it's really exciting. It's just you wanna make sure all the Peaks Pieces Nest in together, and you know, like the the we have the real Team which is like pretty law
enforcement crisis.
09:35:38 Diversion? So how does I mean this one that one doesn't come from a 9, 1, one call this one is prompted by a 9, 1 1.
09:35:44 Call, this this unit, but just there's still some communication that needs to get worked out.
09:35:49 With Gabby. There, Gabby was, there and Chief black was, you know, got a few things on his plate right now I think so he was a few minutes late, and so Gabby Gabby walked through.
09:35:58 Most of the presentation and made a very compelling presentation, I mean I'm excited about the program.
09:36:02 I just wanna make sure. All our pieces work together, and our Duplicative, the met with the Salish Behavioral Health, the Ministry of Service Organization on Friday, still,
Work the Big Thing was the Opioid Settlement the They're Administering and They've Got A Lot
09:36:24 Of different funds, that are kind of coming into sailors Bhja. So the rules are still not written on that and it's there were 5 cities that signed on to the same lawsuit that
we did not in not poor towns, in but you know port angeles, Pulls Bow
09:36:41 Brimmerton, Bainbridge Island, and one other, and they have the option differently than what was originally drafted, to just ask for a direct payout for those with that those
Settlements, so still Kind of negotiating through that though I did sign the the
09:37:01 Final, Mo. That that will will set up those phones coming in through.
09:37:08 The sales. Ph. As so we don't know how they'll be distributed.
09:37:12 Still, so that will come up fairly soon. had our meeting meetup with HUD about How's America and just Kind of the program you know ends in Calendar year 22, our big contribution
to eliminating the on how our homelessness was really seventh, haven That's the only Metric that we
09:37:35 Were positive that we could move someone from unhoused to permanent housing as opposed to transitional or shelter housing.
09:37:45 So we are a, little behind, but it looks like folks will move in on 20.
09:37:51 You know February early March so those 22 units are still what we are are contributing to that effort.
09:37:58 And Keswell, Brown doesn't count because it's not considered permanent.
09:38:05 And then I also met with Mallory and Denise from Chickadee forestry on Friday, Good Meeting, and I am happy to report to that the the First 10 Tiny Shelters, We're Delivered
to Coswell Brown on on this Week It's past Week
09:38:25 And 2 tears of joy from from some of the residents that are moving from a tent.
09:38:30 You know, out there, into a into I'll tiny shelter with the locking door. You know.
09:38:37 It's it's a real it's a real seat, change.
09:38:40 So they're looking for funds, right? Now, it's Community Bill to make 10 more only cap paid for the first group and yeah, Excited to keep seeing that develop there are I think
still 1520 Spots Left of Coswell, Brown, so While There's a Lot, of Encampments, Around, that that folks are
09:38:58 I think, paying a lot of attention to we want to get those folks into coordinated entry.
09:39:03 It's, you know, even this fairly loose outdoor shelter is not the right place for everyone, but we want to make sure that it is open to anyone and encourage.
09:39:11 If you know anyone who is unhoused right now whether they have an Rv or not.
09:39:15 You know, going to only cap and filling out the coordinated entry form is a it's a small barrier.
09:39:24 But we we we we hope that there's a lot of people that can help get people get through that.
09:39:29 And it's really exciting, and it's generally a fairly low barrier, and cats, you can't basically the only thing that would eliminate you, is a violent violent felony.
09:39:45 Past or or sexual, Cross and then Agreement agreeing to abide by the community rules that have been established.
09:39:53 Yes, exactly substance, use and yeah, no. No. Yeah. Yeah.
09:40:00 No substance, use selling on the on the site.
09:40:04 I think, is the standard let's see, Feel like something else happened to
09:40:14 Sunday went to the oh, yeah. Some. I also went to the Jefferson Community Foundation Holiday party.
09:40:22 It's, the holiday party, season, and that was great to connect with folks in their good work there and then Sunday went to the holiday party for the Olympic Housing Trust Learn
more about their Dundee Hill Project and Exciting Stuff is they Kind of You know Shake the Dust, Off and
09:40:38 Get started again. So exciting work, they're doing and I'm looking for ways to help them, create more 80% of ami housing which is their goal, and that was my Week great could
I just call it one thing, real quick, as the the tourism, kind of planning effort unfolds,
09:41:00 You know our effort to start looking at regulation of short Term Vacation rentals. It's been Sidetracked a little bit by Dcd, being so busy, but that would probably be a good
place to just interject that that's a an effort that we're planning to take
09:41:15 On and you know, we'll very much want to include tourism and various stakeholders in that process.
09:41:23 But maybe if you could just plant that seed that that's coming yeah, no, that's great.
09:41:29 We'll thank you great well, I'm gonna close public comment for them.
09:41:34 This first Morning, session. We will have public common again.
09:41:39 Later, this morning as part of our discussion about the Carbon Project letter that we've drafted but let's see.
09:41:47 So there's 4Â min, until Dr. Barry joins us.
09:41:50 So I could do a little bit of briefing from last Week, and I'll just pick the things.
09:41:55 I think are most useful, which we had a Behavioral Health advisory committee meeting on Tuesday afternoon and that was an opportunity to review with everyone the funding Recommendations
that We recently made and we Voted on as a Committee last Week, and those are All the Detail of those is Available but
09:42:21 I'm trying to figure out how I zoom into this to give you the high points.
09:42:26 There was more interest in the Funding than we were able to Allocate to organizations. So and there was also a couple of new programs that we wanted to provide Support for including
Olympic Angels, and See if I Can Read, this
09:42:50 The.
09:42:54 Good, so, brief, I mean, you guys can look at the list that came out of that committee meeting.
09:43:00 But we were able to provide the support that we needed for therapy to court coordination.
09:43:05 We were when that was that was kind of like before we even considered grant allocations.
09:43:10 We said we want to fund this we also said, we want to fund school-based mental health at this amount, so those 2 were taken care of, then we went into consideration of all of
the vendor, proposals we'd received we were able to Fund the Bulk of the Amounts that
09:43:27 People requested the one. You were just talking about the cares
09:43:34 They had just received a large grant from another entity. So we did not fund them at the amount that they had requested.
09:43:43 I think they received $217,000 of the 275 that they had requested.
09:43:51 So we gave them a much smaller allocation of one Tenth Funds and but other, than that I'm trying to see if there's Anything new and exciting let me tell you about that I Can't
even Read
09:44:07 I, think, yeah.
09:44:13 I mean it's always awesome to hear about the work that's certain vendors.
09:44:17 I mean all the vendors do in our community, but a couple of them that were really striking to me, were the Nurse family partnership, is always a program, that I'm just blown
away.
09:44:26 By and continue continue to be blown away by, and then also Jumping Mouse and the just their description of the the Therapy that they provide to youngsters in our Community
is just you know Heartbreaking and so Such Effective Work and those were 2 but Stuck in my Head Let's see
09:44:52 Anything Else from Last week,
09:44:58 I presented at the Carbon Conference Organized by Washington Environmental Council, just talking about kind of our our Project with Mallory, and how how Potentially Longer Longer
Rotations, Contribute to the Carbon, Econ, Carbon, you know There's, a lot, of this is all very Juicy, and Politically Charged Right.
09:45:19 Now, the the discussion, about the carbon Project and we'll talk about it a lot more later, this morning.
09:45:25 But it was it was a good panel to be a part of, and it was,
09:45:29 I think I appreciate our approach of trying to find solutions that work, for our community, and working locally on things other than kind of the large, the large Statewide Policy,
Piece, but saying what do, we want to do here and I think, people, Appreciated hearing that It's 9 45, So I
09:45:51 Am, not gonna give you much more of my update. Now, I can continue that later.
09:45:54 We're gonna bring Dr, Barry over and thank you so much, Alison, for being here, out of your your new Usual sync.
09:46:05 But when I heard about the Pediatric demand in our local hospital.
09:46:10 I thought I think we need Alison on Monday. So I appreciate you, being here and that was what triggered it for me.
09:46:15 But I know there's a lot more going on that you're gonna fill us in on.
09:46:18 And we're just gonna do about 15Â min. So whatever you have.
09:46:21 And then if you can get to any Kptz questions.
09:46:24 I know they did send those over. Thank you.
09:46:25 Sure thank you for having me I I do appreciate you carving out space in your meeting.
09:46:33 I do think we are at a critical time, and it's important to talk to our community about what's going on?
09:46:40 So the Challenge, we're facing, right now is we're seeing a surge in 3 separate viruses.
09:46:45 At this same time, so we're seeing rising, COVID-19 Infections Rapidly Rising Flu Infections, and Rising rsv infections, all at the same time, and It's really Overwhelming our
Healthcare system, in the region, as a whole and in the State
09:47:02 as a whole, particularly the Area, where we're seeing the greatest challenge is in our pediatric Care.
09:47:10 Washington State has a very centralized pediatric system.
09:47:13 So we don't have pediatric hospitals in rural areas like ours, we send all of our critically ill children to the Seattle or Tacoma Area, and unfortunately all of the state is
getting hit at the same time with this Surge in multiple Respiratory, Viruses and so
09:47:31 We're losing the ability to care for all of those very sick kids.
09:47:34 Seattle Children's and Mary Bridge are reporting with their errors, are seeing 3 Times, their Normal Peak of Pediatric Needs in A Normal Flu, Season, You're seeing Kids basically
Piling Up in Waiting, Rooms, Staff, Trying to Take Care, of Kids in Closets Things, that were
09:47:53 Just not used to doing, and certainly not with children, and so in our region, in order.
09:47:59 To try to help manage some of this, to demand we're actually taking care of Critically l kids here, so in Jefferson, it's in Clown County, which is not something we normally
do we don't have pediatric hospitalists, here, we have Caring family Docs, and
09:48:17 Pediatricians but we don't have folks who are used to taking care of really sick kids in the hospital, and particularly one of the challenges.
09:48:23 We have is. We don't have nurses who are used to taking care of critically ill kids in the hospital.
09:48:28 And that's a very specialized skill set. So everyone here, is doing everything they can, but I think it's really important for the public to know that this is happening.
09:48:39 Because it can be hard to know Many, though if you have kids, you probably know that everyone you know who has kids is sick right now, that's because of What's going on with
these viruses, circulating, in most cases this, these viruses you know even even Covid R 3 and flu generally won't
09:48:59 Lead, to critical illness in most people, but in a smaller percentage, they do.
09:49:03 And when enough of us get sick, that small percentage is enough to overwhelm our systems.
09:49:10 Unfortunately partly due to the inability to transfer children for care.
09:49:17 We actually lost a child in Clown county. We had a death of an infant in the last couple of weeks, due to oursv and they tried to transfer this child's children's but they couldn't
get them there there wasn't any Beds and there wasn't enough, transfer
09:49:31 Transfer capability to get that child there, and so and that's that's just the kind of tragedy that we want to prevent
09:49:39 And I think it's important for the community to know that all of these viruses can be prevented by masking so Flu Rsv Covid all Don't transmit when we wear masks in indoor areas
and so all of the Health Officers and the Health Care, Leaders, of our Local
09:49:57 Hospitals signed on all, the all the West side of the State signed on to a shared statement, asking our communities to Return and Asking Indoors, while we get through the search
of Viral Infections, We Anticipate, that this Surge, Will last through probably January and So Won't be
09:50:14 Forever but if we all were mass indoors to december, and January, it would make all the difference to reduce transmission of these viruses there's a couple other things We could
do, thank you There's a couple other things we could do that would really reduce
09:50:27 Transmission. So one is to stay home when you're sick.
09:50:31 I know we've been talking about this before but I think a lot of us got in the habit of testing for Covid, and then if it's not Covid Going anyway and it's important to remember
that Rsv and Flu Won't Show up Positive, on a
09:50:43 Covid test, and especially in adults. You might just feel like you have a cold, but in a kid that could get them critically, ill and we don't have the beds for them.
09:50:52 Right now and so it's really really important that we don't spread illnesses, to children, if we can help it so that means not going to family dinners, if you're feeling ill,
or if your child is feeling ill keeping them home so we don't spread it among each other the other critical thing, to
09:51:07 Do is to say up to date on your vaccines.
09:51:10 COVID-19 and influenza, have 2 highly effective vaccines, but unfortunately, we've seen lower Uptake, of the Influenza Vaccine.
09:51:18 This year than in prior. Years. It's really important that we get up to date those vaccines go a long way to keep Us from getting severely ill, and especially making sure your
kids have gotten up to date on their vaccines, because we wanna make sure, they don't need any of these
09:51:34 Hospit beds. No one wants a critically ill child in their family, and certainly I don't want anyone in our community to face this heartbreaking challenge, of having a very Sick
kid and not having a place, to take them, so making Sure they're up to Date on their Vaccines is the biggest thing, you can do
09:51:49 There and I would strongly encourage us. We're not mandating it right now, but I would strongly encourage us.
09:51:55 To move, back to masking in schools, unfortunately, most most kids now are not masking in schools, and schools are becoming a primary source of transmission of all of these
viruses. It's super hard.
09:52:07 To do, kids don't want to do anything that makes them feel weird.
09:52:10 But talking to your kids, talking to your teachers, trying to see if we can get more kids masking in schools, I think would make a huge difference. Here.
09:52:18 But even if the Kids Can't Mask in Schools, we, the Adults can renew transmission by wearing mass and into our Spaces and Staying Home when We're and so with that I'm, happy
To take any Questions from the Commissioners.
09:52:33 Yeah
09:52:32 I have one, so I I'm just noticing that we have about half the normal number of people on the Attendee List today and I'm not seeing any school principals or Superintendents.
09:52:45 So are you communicating with our school districts. And okay, great, I'm assuming, you are. But I just
09:52:48 Yes, we have, a we have, a regular Tuesday meetings.
09:52:53 The next one is tomorrow, so we're gonna be having this conversation tomorrow, for sure
09:52:52 Okay. Okay. Great great okay. Any other questions for Dr. Barry.
09:53:00 I've quickly just to kind of follow up on our conversation from last week.
09:53:03 Dr. Barry, I think We're We're interested in having you, if you're if your Schedule Accommodates it probably First and Third Mondays at 9 45 and Just wanted to Confirm, that
that was all right.
09:53:13 Yes, that would be just fine. I know that this is a special meeting, but we'll be back next week.
09:53:18 Cause that's first and third and we'll get back on that cadence.
09:53:21 So that everybody can know
09:53:22 Great thank you for that flexibility and then other just kind of following Up on on heidi's question about schools, I mean, I struggle to get my own, daughter if less than Half
of the kids are wearing it, then It's not Cool so I mean, are the teachers.
09:53:37 Gonna start modeling this. I just it's not I I'm skeptical that without something additional.
09:53:45 We'll get more than half of the kids masking in schools.
09:53:49 Yeah, I think you're I think you're very right.
09:53:52 Kids in particular are very vulnerable to peer pressure and not wanting to feel weird.
09:53:57 And so I think the first step is to make sure that all the adults in the Room are modeling that so if we can get the adults in our community modeling and indoor spaces and particularly
if we, can get teachers, and School Staff modeling masking that could make a huge difference as
09:54:12 far as mandates. I think one of the challenges we have.
09:54:17 There is that because this is such a regional issue, if we put a man named in Jefferson County, but we don't get one in king and peers County it won't be enough.
09:54:27 To to protect us. It won't. It won't fix the problem, and so, if we are going to go that way.
09:54:32 I think we do need the whole region to go as one, and it would.
09:54:37 It would make a huge difference in protecting our kids.
09:54:41 But we. I don't think this is a moment where we can go it alone.
09:54:44 But I think, the more that we model is adults, that can make a huge difference.
09:54:49 And we make sure get our kids up to date on their vaccines, including their flu shot, and remember there is a nasal flu vaccine.
09:54:55 I got that from my kid who does not like shop, so that can be a really good option.
09:55:00 If you're if you have a kid who's worried about about pokes.
09:55:07 Yeah
09:55:04 Thank you, quick question it sounds like a flu and Rsp are are more of a concern.
09:55:12 Right now than Covid and maybe next week we'll be talking more about Covid, but just is I'm curious is is the bivalent Booster, seeming to provide.
09:55:24 Adequate Prevention, or Protection against the the Current Variance of Covid going Around
09:55:30 So we are unfortunately now Covid is starting to rise to so our current case rate for COVID-19 is 466 per 100,000.
09:55:42 Yeah
09:55:41 So it is rapidly ticking up and it's not just here we're seeing that at the State and the National Level 2 for the first time, even though the State and the nation are only
Tracking Pcrs, we're starting to see that really take up Quickly We're, also starting to See your
09:55:53 Rise, and Hospitalizations for Covid to our case, as your team at rate in Jefferson County is one in 6.
09:56:00 So we're catching about one in 6 of the cases out there at the State, level.
09:56:03 That's about one in 14. So we're getting about twice as many cases.
09:56:06 That we're finding here. So that I'll say it's serious on all of those cases the Bivalent Booster is actually making a big difference in reducing symptomatic Disease it's not
100% you can definitely still get a breakthrough infection, but it does reduce your
09:56:21 Likelihood, of getting, symptomatic disease from COVID-19 and of course, it dramatically reduces your your risk of severe Disease, it's incredibly effective against BA 4, and
5 and It's still Relatively, Effective against Bq, 1.1 which is the Rising sub
09:56:37 Variant, interestingly, we're seeing that play out because Washington State has more byvalent uptake than most other states in the country.
09:56:45 And so we don't have as much Bq, 1.1, here, as we do another places it's taking a lot longer to overtake here and that's the effect of the Bivalent, Booster, but of course we
still don't have enough, people who've, gotten that in in
09:56:59 Jefferson County. It's about 45% of our community has moved forward, with their bivalent, which is great.
09:57:04 But this is one is the highest in the State, but we've got a long way to go.
09:57:09 So more of us got our bivalent, that would also reduce COVID-19.
09:57:11 Transmission, and we're still seeing it work well in reducing transmission in our highest risk areas.
09:57:18 So our long-term care Facilities are very highly vaccinated, and we have, yet to see a Covid, Outbreak, even though in our Neighboring Counties, We're starting to See Long-term
care Facilities, get Shut Down, with Massive Outbreaks, we're not Seeing it here and we
09:57:30 Think that that's really the by Bailip that's doing that
09:57:34 And I would just add I mean I think I felt I felt like I wanted you here this week, because we're moving into the holiday season.
09:57:41 And I felt like I was at a few events last week.
09:57:47 Yes.
09:57:44 That I was like saying into my breath, super spreader, you know where where I just felt like, oh, my God, you know like the craft fairs and the holiday parties, and we're coming
into that time where it's joy and gathering with our friends, and family and it just seems like you know we
09:58:02 need the we need to remember and know that all of these viruses are are in our community right now, and we could be hurting the people that we care the most.
09:58:13 Yeah
09:58:13 About, so, anyway, I just I I'm I reached a moment of panic last week. So I I really appreciate you being here and I Don't.
09:58:20 Think we left very much time for question other people's questions.
09:58:23 Well, we can do. Kptz next week, but I I wanted to highlight that I it's the holiday season gathering is joyful and important.
09:58:32 And it's okay to gather, in fact, I recommend it.
09:58:36 But you need to be thoughtful about how you do it.
09:58:38 And so if it's gathering where you can mask that's great so you can go to all the crafters you'd want and wear a mask, I've been going to our local Craft fairs it's been great
I wear a Mask.
09:58:47 When I'm there if you're gonna go to a gathering where there's food offered, which there usually is this time of year, It's especially important that you don't go if you're
Sick so my family actually we Missed, our Family Thanksgiving because my daughter, had, a Fever, and
09:59:01 My dad has a heart, problem. And so, we're not gonna mix those 2 things.
09:59:05 And it was hard, but it was the right move, because I don't.
09:59:09 Need my family, meeting, hospital, bed right now, and so we all, I think we have so much pent up need to gather that we're tempted to go when we're sick but please don't, do.
09:59:19 That stay home. If you're ill and then if you're well, you can go keep the gathering somewhat small, and if it's gonna be a large gathering make sure it's a mass gathering,
and if we do all of that we can really Tamp this down but We've got
09:59:33 to bring back all that energy that we had before, so that we can get through the safely and particularly protect our kids, this holiday season.
09:59:42 Thank you, Dr. Barry, we appreciate you being here on a special call to duty this morning, and have a great holiday and well, we'll see you before the holidays, so next week,
we'll have a full update from Dr.
09:59:54 Barry at 9, 45, on Monday, the Nineteenth, we're she will have the time, the luxury of time, to answer Questions, from the Community But We Appreciate you being here, this morning,
thank you
10:00:08 Okay, I don't know did anyone else feel panic last week?
10:00:13 I felt a little bit of panic I didn't know we were 2,500 for 100,000.
10:00:17 But I mean, if it feels you know. Yeah, no, I think it was appropriate.
10:00:22 So the next thing on our agenda is another big meaty topic, which is deliberation and potential action regarding a resolution adopting the 2022, 23 Budget, Modification, and
I'm not Gonna read the Whole Agenda Title I'm Gonna let mark Brief Brief Us, on this one bring
10:00:43 Us, in, Alright Commissioners, good Morning yeah, this is a media item.
10:00:48 But the bulk of the action on this item occurred last week, when we had a public hearing, and I had a Powerpoint presentation.
10:00:56 Once again, there is a budget message attached to this item in the agenda, if I's identical to the message for the Recommended Bit by Anym Review and modification with one exception
there was a little Chart on page, one of that memo that where the Totals were
10:01:13 Incorrect. I apologize for that, but they are correct in the version that is attached this morning, and so you took public comment last week.
10:01:23 And I Don't believe there was any and so this morning we would just ask the and you asked for no changes to the recommended, and so the Finals Identical to the recommended that
we briefed last week, it's a balanced Budget and I I think I think if you remember the 5 year
10:01:42 Projection was looking fairly robust and we're always worrying about a recession.
10:01:49 I I believe, on Wednesday the Fed is gonna increase Interest rates, another half a point, and so we will keep our eye on all those financial indicators.
10:01:57 But I'm very comfortable with this budget, and I want to thank all the folks that were listed in the Memo especially Judy, Shepherd of Finance Manager Who's Sitting there, in
the audience here.
10:02:08 This morning. So I'm prepared, and so is Judy, to answer any questions, you might have otherwise I would look for a motion to adopt and then by any of them review and modification
as it was presented can you have any questions you know I had a oh, small questions page 11.
10:02:27 Of the expenditures. I mean, yeah, we've been through this, I, I just looking through it again, saw a couple of reductions that I didn't remember.
10:02:36 And I was wondering, if you could shed some light on them, both in emergency, Management Budget amending it down to 300, 300, and 8,000, and then also the one other one that
went, down, I was like why, is that going down,
10:02:53 The community, center. I'm sorry. What's that was it.
10:02:59 The community center, no
10:03:02 Oh, yeah, no, that's certainly there. But I think that's that's not in budgeted page 11 on it.
10:03:09 But well, let's start with the Department of Emergency management.
10:03:12 Do, you know why it went down. Unless Judy has Line item detail in her head this morning, suspect it has to do with with grants.
10:03:23 And you know this, 3. Oh, 8 is still pretty robust budget for emergency management.
10:03:31 But we are coming out of you know, a very difficult 2 years, and we can give you a side by side, comparison, line, item by line.
10:03:38 Item, if you'd like to know specifically where those no, no, that's that's right it's it's good.
10:03:46 Oh, Judy's got an answer. I can address you
10:03:50 The If you remember, we asked for a reduction in the modification of 1.5%.
10:03:57 When the original budget was accepted in 2,021 for 2023, it was a 3% increase and then the Budget Guidance was given to reduce all the budgets, for the especially for the general
Fund down to one and a half percent so a lot of what you're
10:04:14 seeing in reduction of budget, in expenditures is in that operating section of reducing down, based on the request of the Board Gotcha, that answers my question for the Win
Judy, for the Win, okay, Mark I was Wondering if if this is where we would Potentially talk
10:04:41 about, the the Nola Expense and A couple of requests that I think would hit non-departmental for supporting economic Development efforts, yeah.
10:04:55 And as the Board has done many times since I've been here, and it's a common practice where, in a setting like this, the board can Commit to Fund a certain item that doesn't
have a line item in the Budget and and I have one I'm actually gonna mention when we're done talking about
10:05:10 Noola, but the Board can commit along with adopting this budget this morning as a separate motion.
10:05:19 You could make a motion to direct staff to submit, a line item for Nola in the First Quarter Appropriation and what was that 25,000 was it 12,600, okay, 12 okay, it would be
paid out of non-departmental, which has a
10:05:38 Budget in an excessive 5 million so really
10:05:43 It's a drop in the bucket for non, departmental and in the the the draft budget. Which we don't have the the huge line, by line item here with us, today, did you include the
increase for Nodc also or should I talk about that as well.
10:06:01 I I I don't recall whether that line item has an increase.
10:06:06 But this year it will for next year for 23,
10:06:13 Yeah also, I'll just mention 2 and see if there's support for that, or or would you rather do that in first quarter?
10:06:25 I think it'd be great to be able to provide that okay, we'll just bring it to your first quarter. Yeah, so to 2 requests, from our economic development partners, first, is our
North, Olympic, Legislative, alliance, which we you know, partake in with
10:06:41 Jeff Klam County, and all of the cities and public Entities, and Jefferson and Column Counties, including the Economic Development Councils and Some Private Business, as well,
so It's really you know, a Legislative Effort to Advanced Kind, of Economic Development Shared Economic Development Interests.
10:07:02 The Jefferson, Team, Jefferson Edc has been paying for Jefferson County's Sheriff of that $1,000 a month, and in an effort to help them.
10:07:15 Kind of stabilize, and because I have been the primary contact for that and really kind of driving, that process in part Cindy's just been really busy I am suggesting that we
take over that Expense also the Edc is considering switching to a 5.
10:07:33 101 c. 3, and which case, they would not be able to spend their funds on lobbying efforts.
10:07:39 Yes, Yep, number of videos are C Three's okay,
10:07:44 So and and I think we are getting a lot of benefit from Nola, and it is we're a little bit unusual.
10:07:52 And how little we pay lobbyists. You know we have a lot of use for the Sewer, Project and some public works but you know it's very normal for a county to to pay for lobbying
efforts, so I think that this is going in the even could really help, with
10:08:08 The Ecs, Cash, Flow in coming years. So that's one proposal, the second and I'm don't.
10:08:14 I'm not gonna have the number right in front of me, Caroline.
10:08:16 Do you happen to have the Nodc numbers Handy.
10:08:19 Thank you. Okay. Well, she's looking for that. I'll just say that and O DC, also in an effort that's North Korea development Council in an effort to stabilize financially is
asking its members to be basically, Committing, our Annual Dues to Cover, the match, for the
10:08:40 $70,000 in Federal funds, that they get for their base grants.
10:08:45 So they are looking to cover 70,000 and match and Jefferson and Column Counties would each take 20 or 30,000.
10:08:55 Carol will get that number to us, and then yes, and thank you, so 25,000 each county, and then the city's.
10:09:07 Tribes, ports, beauties make up the additional 20,000.
10:09:13 I think Nadc provides, a ton of value and $25,000 years.
10:09:19 As a really well, it's already in the the Draft Budget, apparently they really kickstarted that effort. So I think can't really track it back exactly but the benefit.
10:09:34 Is clear. Yes, yeah, so those are 2 2 requests that I wanted to bring forward in the budget process
10:09:40 Yeah. Oh, wow, yeah, it's a big leap. But they've had to try to scroun, to come up with that match.
10:09:48 If whereas if it was just Cashmatch. So much easier lot of efforts saved on parents, part and then she can actually put that time into doing that yes, what she's supposed to
be doing.
10:10:00 So so like that is already in the draft, but that's great!
10:10:05 How would we well, you could you could go through the formal process of making a motion?
10:10:12 But staff does have the direction. We've noted it, and we can proceed just on the conversation, and bring it to your first quarter.
10:10:20 Thank you, okay, and now, there is something I would like a motion on, and that has to do with Blake Funding
10:10:28 I think the Board knows that we receive 2 buckets of money, for Blake, one to pay the refunds and the other is to Cover Administrative costs associated with Administering the
Refunds and Ruth, Gordon, our Stellar Clerk, Who's Retiring as
10:10:46 Clerk at the end of the month, as well volunteered to continue on with the County Doing Blake work to help Whittle down the Backlog of Blake Cases and We've talked to James
Kennedy the Prosecuting Attorney and We've had Sir Melonson
10:11:04 It on the discussion and We're all in agreement that that would be a very good move for the county, and it would all be funded by that revenue stream out of the state so it
would be budget neutral and so what I'm looking for this morning, in conjunction or following or
10:11:19 perceived adopting the budget would be a motion to authorize, staff to bring on Ruth and that capacity, and then we would also in the first quarter recognize that expense budget
because the revenue budget is already there, but then we risk not being able to to Use the money, if we
10:11:40 don't, that's right, it it it expires on 30, June, at the end of the biennium, for the State.
10:11:47 And it could be renewed or then again. Maybe not.
10:11:50 But it's a you know Fruit Gordon's recommending.
10:11:52 We do, this, I think, that we ought to I'm, I'm happy to make that motion authorizing the county administrator to contract outgoing County Clerk, Ruth Gordon to Assist with
yeah, We would We would create us, not to Exceed 6, 6, month, position that would be a half an
10:12:14 Fte, so she would continue to have Healthcare Coverage and would Earn retirement, credit, and all of those things capturing that Caroline
10:12:31 That without going.
10:12:34 Wait.
10:12:38 Position.
10:12:42 Yeah, I think we should avoid the term contract out.
10:12:45 That has a special meeting. It means someone who's not employed by the county
10:12:52 So that was to
10:13:04 And then.
10:13:09 So moved a second, all in favor Alright. Thank you, thank you, Commissioners.
10:13:17 Okay. But there was another was there another most in our
10:13:31 Oh, no! I've got the numbers here on page one of the but I'm a page, one, the resolution as stated in fact.
10:13:43 I'm I'm happy to move that we adopt the 2,02322, 23, Mid-by-nine, review and modification for the general Fund, and other Funds, the 2,023 Jefferson, County Road Construction,
Program, the 2,000, and 23
10:13:56 County capital, improvement program and the central Services 2,023, cost Allocation Plans all in favor, Hi, big big Relief, yeah, what's going to happen now, I'm in Duty all
of your Work on this can I just say.
10:14:19 Give it worries me sorry we don't have the word budget in the resolution title, but but the county code defines what the mid biennium.
10:14:30 Review, and modification is, and that's where you take the budget for the second half of the biennium, and you review, it and modify it, I just know any time we search for documents
like we would be looking for a 20.
10:14:45 23, Budget Documents today. It worries me to not research, okay, thank you, 23 budget.
10:14:56 Yeah, that's language out of state, statute.
10:15:00 Yeah, I don't mean to be picky about it.
10:15:02 I just think for anybody outside of this room that is it's not clear.
10:15:09 Well, you could make a motion to modify the title of the Resolution. To put Sounds like Carolyn, can add a a shirt, a search for me, okay.
10:15:24 Okay, are we done with that as an item mark. Hopefully, so hmm, hmm, okay, so the next item on our agenda is discussion and potential action, regarding a letter to the department
of Natural resources, with comments regarding the Carbon, Project and we will have public comment as Part of this, item That's.
10:15:45 My queue, to those of you in the public who joined us, we will be taking public on our draft letter to Dnr regarding the Carbon project.
10:16:02 1021
10:21:18 I will check
10:21:21 Okay, calling us back to order. And oh, not yet. Oh, sorry I was talking to Carlin.
10:21:28 Oh, okay, I am calling us back to order and it's been brought to my attention, that we have a short matter of discussion from this morning that mark has Bridget here prepared
to talk about the Wsu, item on the Consent Agenda So mark I have a mouthful of Cookie yeah, so Commissioner
10:21:54 Dean asked about the small farms, Program and it pointed out that it's Multi-county and was interested in knowing what Cloud and Kits app Contributed To the Program and so a
Bridget is here to address that question and explain the Arrangements, that we have with those
10:22:14 counties for the benefit of the Board and the Public, and I would just add before Bridget gets started, that I am super grateful to interim, director Greg, for Sticking with
her Role as the interim Wsu director and we are in the process of ramping up that search and I know
10:22:32 that she is patiently doing her time. But it's much appreciated Bridget and you've done a great job.
10:22:40 And I know that the entire team out there appreciates your service.
10:22:43 So is it like prison, bridge.
10:22:49 I'm gonna just take the fifth on it.
10:22:51 Oh, Bridget, can you turn up your volume. It's yeah.
10:23:03 Testing, testing.
10:23:06 Better it can go up a little higher. It would be helpful
10:23:10 This is as high as I can go. Can you hear me
10:23:12 That's much better
10:23:14 Fantastic. so I received a text from mark, and I apologize.
10:23:19 I wasn't here in this time. But you, had some questions regarding the small phone coordinator, position. And would you like to ask your questions, again, or would you like me,
to reply, to the request that mark sent me
10:23:34 Directly.
10:23:34 Hey, I'm fine. If you just want to reply thank you.
10:23:36 Sure. so mark is asking what contributions come from?
10:23:41 Kits app and Clown County so it's a regional small farm program, column County.
10:23:49 As 2, regional specialists, and insect, ipm specialists with laurel Molten, and a Livestock Specialist, and I'm afraid, I Can't remember his name so they Supply 2 Specialists,
Kelly really Surprise the Facilitation.
10:24:09 Of the classes that happen among those 3 counties, and then there's a full Time Person in kits app, who is really sort of the administrative person that make sure that all the
you know, eyes, are Dotted teaser Crossed so they Work as a Team and Provide Services Across all
10:24:31 3 counties. There is not a a formal agreement among those 3 counties in part because they are all Wsu extension.
10:24:41 And so this is a way to be stronger together, rather than having individual coordinators, that wouldn't be able to get nearly the same amount of Bandwidth Or Expertise out to
our account
10:24:54 Great thank you that that satisfies my question. Thanks, Bridget, we appreciate you coming.
10:24:59 Okay, good. You're you're welcome, anything else.
10:25:03 Nope, thank you back back to your important work.
10:25:05 Alright fantastic thanks and thanks to all, of you
10:25:15 Okay, so now back to the next, item on our agenda, which is discussion and potential action regarding, a letter to the Department of national Resources, with Comments, regarding
the Carbon Project and we will be taking public comment on this item there was a Draft Letter and Agenda request Attached
10:25:37 To your packet this morning, and I am just going to
10:25:44 You want to share it on the screen. Yeah, well, I just wanna open the agenda request.
10:25:49 So, I'm looking for that. There it is. Okay, you. Okay. Let's I can share it. If you want on the screen, okay, that would be great
10:25:57 So I feel like, I really need to slow down and have a moment.
10:26:03 And I'm glad we have time, because I have as you know, been taking a deep dive on all things.
10:26:11 Dnr, related for the last year, and a half, and have been participating in a number of Work Groups convened by the Department of National Resources Convened by Wasack and then
also being the Commissioner, Kind of leading our Forestry, Project here in Jefferson, County, and Response to Dnr's
10:26:36 Proposed carbon Project, and so months ago, in June, we submitted a letter to Dnr, saying, we were very interested in being included for consideration and the in their Carbon
Project as they identified Parcels, to be included in the 7,500 Acres that would make up Phase 2 of
10:26:57 That project, as a result of our jumping up and down about that by that letter we were included in the proposed phase 2 of the Carbon, project with 3,900 acres.
10:27:12 All over East Jefferson County, Hi, those 3,900 acres are primarily made up of State Forest transfer trust lands, or the County Forest Board Land.
10:27:24 Many people refer to them, So since June, I've been flying very low on this and trying to understand what the financial implications are to the county of asking for Inclusion
in the Carbon Project and to their credit Dnr has been Encouraging but they Haven't provided the Detail that I feel
10:27:53 Like, I I need to come to you and say, let's jump let's jump in the deep end on the Carbon Project, there have been a number of conversations, as you know we had that Forestry
Workshop, on the Thirtieth and Dnr Participated, in that but Dnr
10:28:11 Has been sued by American Forest Resource Council and Gadget and Lewis Counties on the Sepa, the State Environmental Protection Act Process, for the Carbon, Project so That's
Kind of Tied Dnr's Hands in Terms, of what they can say About the Project in the
10:28:33 Intervening months. So we had very little information about what the potential financial implications could be.
10:28:40 Peter Bales has been working really productively with Chinka to try and understand how he might make some calculations, because his Project Around Dava Bay Stands to game a
lot from the Carbon, Project as It's currently proposed so
10:29:02 I could go into a lot, more detail on state Force transfer Trust lands and common School construction, trust lands, and all of the implications.
10:29:13 But what I felt like it was important for us to do was to get back to Dnr and say, we support you.
10:29:19 I mean, this is this is a big proposal that has huge implications, but also is an is a new way of thinking.
10:29:29 About our Forest resource, or Forest Resources in Washington State and Hi!
10:29:35 Well, for one, I'm super appreciative that they're willing to be creative, and flexible and visionary.
10:29:43 On behalf, of our natural resources. But I feel like we've heard from Enough of our Junior taxing districts, and you know we've heard also from a many many proponents of specific
parcels that are proposed in the carbon project both in support, of parcels or why Isn't my
10:30:04 Parcel Included, that it's gotten incredibly complex.
10:30:08 I mean this whole issue is is got smackingly complex.
10:30:14 So what I did is I wrote a general letter of we support the spirit of intent of the Project, but we without knowing the details of the financial implications to the county,
and the other Beneficiaries, in Jefferson County It's really Hard to Commit to this Project in in my
10:30:33 estimation. But this is the opening salvo of this letter, and a couple of things I would say, is we could am in this letter to talk about specific places and parcels if we are
interested in that and I'm happy to Work on that this Week if There's interested in that another thing, that
10:30:49 keeps waking me actually waking me up in the middle of the night, is, you know the tribes I mean, what are how are the tribes responding to the Carbon Project and what about
the specific parcels and would things like recreation or hunting be allowed and In Carbon Project
10:31:09 parcels, so things like usual usual on the Custom Hunting Grounds would not be an impact.
10:31:12 LED, so there are the the levels of complexity, our intense and there's been many times where I feel like I I just I can't I can't hold this Potato anymore but I I'm still holding
it and I to the Extent.
10:31:28 That I've submitted my interested in the bnr seat that's being vacated by Bill Peach and on I think it's Thursday They're gonna hear from Us We're gonna say why we should be
and considered for that Seat anyway, I really believe in open Productive Conversations, And also
10:31:49 the creativity with with which DNA, but this Carbon project forward, the spirit of of Solutions, and yeah, I've said that already so interested to hear what you guys think of
the letter, and then also if there, are any, specific areas that you are interested in getting more, detailed information, on Yeah, I guess first I would
10:32:13 say, this is not the letter, that we talked about last week, and I think it's not just your own.
10:32:21 Internal Machinations that have changed it, but also the recommendations of our contracted Foresters.
10:32:27 Right. So I just think, putting that out on the table, too, that we all have conversations.
10:32:32 With with Mallory and and Peter as Well, and I'm I think this is the right and I'm Comfortable with this letter, there's a Few small Typos that we can look at, but but generally
I think this is right, on so I'd love, to chat, about more and
10:32:51 and get into maybe some more specifics, about, you know, maybe it's premature, but ideas that Mallory shared with us and and and
10:33:02 I think they are implied in this letter in a way that we can.
10:33:06 We should maybe make explicit
10:33:10 I'll I'll do my Kind of high Level response to and then we can see what level of detail, we want to get into I am i'm generally really happy with the letter thank you, Heidi
for Drafting it.
10:33:23 Yeah, I think I would really like to Kind of Talk, up the Statewide Importance of the Carbon Project and our It it mentions.
10:33:34 It but I think I think, you know part of the impetus.
10:33:40 For this program was was the the issues that we brought to Dnr.
10:33:45 And you know they're trying to help us expand, to have another tool, the toolbox, as you said and I I really want to politically, support that effort and acknowledge that this
is part of a change.
10:33:59 That we have called out is necessary, that we stop funding our schools with Industrial, Harvest, and so I think we could be a little stronger in that language, and then my other
point is that I would really like to flesh out either here today or at least in the Letter
10:34:18 talk about that we would like to have the opportunity to weigh out weigh in on what parcels are selected for the program and I don't know that we can do that today but maybe
you know if if there's a time, time constraint on the letter to just say that we
10:34:37 want to We we would like to participate in the selection of which parcels and that would give us some time.
10:34:45 Then to do some more analysis and decide on a strategy.
10:34:49 So those are my 2 desired edits great got him.
10:34:55 Got it.
10:34:57 Did you wanna
10:35:04 I can dig in more. sure. I mean, I agree with Kate that
10:35:12 We can I mean you the first sentence supports the idea in the spirit. And I like that.
10:35:16 And I think making it a little stronger. I would support 2.
10:35:19 I, think this is you know, I I would love to see it developed.
10:35:24 We're are stating that we're not comfortable with it.
10:35:28 Now is just because it's really you know it's not all the way there yet, and but I think you expressed in here, and we should focus on you know, there is some.
10:35:36 Risk that we're willing to take. But we need to be able to kind of quantify that risk before we jump into the pool and that we might want to explore some of the same goals.
10:35:50 In our local efforts, and some of those include Dnr, 2 I mean, I'll just call out explicitly.
10:35:56 You know, talking to Mallory, some of these parcels in in either trust, are more appropriate and and Mallory is, you know, quickly making some of those recommendations, you
know and just to I don't know if it's saying a quiet part out loud that Shouldn't be said but you know North of
10:36:14 104, where where the trees don't grow as well, so it's not just about
10:36:22 It's it's something. That we haven't talked about I don't think, in any of our conversations is what are the most effective Forestry parsons, right and and and it's. Lovely.
10:36:34 That that's dovetails nicely with some of our more Rural Junior Taxing districts that are more dependent on this Revenue and also that some of the ones that Don't Go Trees as
Well, are a lot, Closer to Population, Centers, to Recreation, Centers, So
10:36:56 There's kind of that good, you know triple bottom line approach that we've taken to our Community Forestry Project really applies to some of these larger parcels, and so I wouldn't
mind explicitly, talking about maybe not particular parcels in this letter which would get awfully, Granular
10:37:13 But talking, about
10:37:17 I don't know the different, the different Future, we see with some of these different parcels.
10:37:22 I don't know how to throw
10:37:25 Yeah, no, I think that's good. I mean, I think part of the consideration.
10:37:36 Is what is the purpose of this letter? you know if it's to signal whether we're interested in participation.
10:37:44 Maybe we don't need a really high level of detail.
10:37:49 But if it will actually kind of lead to the next steps, you know, then maybe we should be clear about what we are asking of the Nr, and I just have not been privy enough to
know what they're, asking for at this, time, One, there is interest in us being clear, about what
10:38:07 It's that whole desire for certainty, that I'm hearing from Dnr and the Forest Products Industry, that we don't just jump up and down about Every Timber Sale, and That's, something
that I've been Working through with Mallory, in our Conversations, is and it
10:38:29 So geographically generally what we've been talking about is North of one, O 4, and East, of 101 is where all the population is most of the Population is and all of the Parcels
that have kind of Recreational, Use, on them currently passive recreational use and some like the
10:38:57 Anderson, Lake Parcel, are part of the extension, of the Olympic Discovery, Trail to the south of Anderson Lake State Park so there's there's some Logical Compatibility, with
Asking for different Uses to be considered for some of these Parcels,
10:39:17 Dnr has said, we would like more ability to harvest up against the National Forest west of Quillsene, and I have said that I would like the ability to protect Land around Dave
Bay in the future because I feel like that already is such a model, Project and We've got Current on the on the
10:39:44 Table, proposed A Natural Area Expansion that we're gonna have a public hearing for in the Coming month, and then there's there's ideas for an a second, expansion, or a third,
expansion of that natural Area boundary so those are all parcels that have been identified by
10:40:05 Peter Bales and Northwest Watershed Institute and I think that if we could say we're, you know we want this is what we want.
10:40:17 For these 3, General, general geographic areas. But I don't think that that we're there yet.
10:40:22 I think it's conceptual, and the trust line transfer programs going for some fundamental changes.
10:40:29 As well, right right and trust Line transfer is one of the tools in the toolbox that could help us like like the Kimberly last wilderness is a common school construction, parcel
and this is where it gets super granular and I've taking the deep Dive, so that is
10:40:44 one area where we could proposing a propose, a natural area, do a trust land transfer for the Quemper, or wilderness parcel, which is 33 80 acres and of common School well it's
50 acres of common School Construction, Trust to the North of that on the same
10:41:01 parcel, There's State Force Transfer Force Board Lands that could be reconvey to the County.
10:41:09 We could have a natural area there, a new, natural area with a combined preserve in conservation, area, or community forest or community forest, Right.
10:41:19 So there's there's a lot of
10:41:22 Granularity and Kind of Detail, Detailed work that needs to be done parcel by parcel.
10:41:30 Not only for the priority parcels, but Mallory's.
10:41:34 I didn't identify, but also for parcels.
10:41:36 That other parcels that are on, the for example, in the forest for the future report that report from 2,011, that already did this kind of first brush at talking about the potential
future uses, of 45 Parcels in East, Jefferson County in multiple trust managed by
10:41:58 Dnr It's kind of a an update of that Report, and also a more detailed analysis of certain key parcels, that Chickadee has been working on
10:42:10 I I think something else that I got out of the conversation with Mallory Underneath.
10:42:15 Was you know looking, you know, as the carbon project on the Statewide scale runs into at least delays with the sepa challenge and maybe you know, Legislative a lack of Legislative
Support that we can also Start Tracking that data and Developing you know Additionality, ourselves.
10:42:34 And some of maybe our some of our smaller parcels.
10:42:38 And we can dip our feed into this so still continue to push the push the agenda up, looking for Carbon Storage, and Sequestration Alternatives other ways of Funding and I I
mean, I Dnr was pretty Skeptical about Finding Additionality, along with you know Pre Commercial Thinning
10:42:58 And things and I I I would love to understand that that landscape better.
10:43:02 And I think that with you know Denise's support to Chickadee, that they do have the skill set to kind of plum those depths, a little bit in a smaller more local way, I think
that's that's, I mean I don't know I Don't think, it needs to go into the Letter
10:43:15 But it it seems worth saying, I guess the best, and There's been quite a bit of criticism of the Carbon Project, and you know with this I'm hearing a lot of Scuttle Butt about
is it even gonna get off the Tarmac so you Know I mean, it.
10:43:30 Is prudent on our part to you know, because we're supportive, of the strategy to look at our own more, local.
10:43:38 You know, application of carbon offets on some of the Force that we're working on, including in county ownership, I mean, I mean, this is this is just the kind of the beginning,
but not the beginning, of a very long track in front of us because we're always gonna be afraid forest county, we're
10:43:55 Always going to be for a timber dependent county in some in some way, and what does that mean in the future?
10:44:02 And how can we apply creative tools, like carbon offsets to our local forestry practices, and that's that's the question that mallory and denise and you know other people, from
around the state, have been asking me but it's, also things, thinking, about things, like longer, forest rotations, you know
10:44:23 There's a huge carbon sequestration. Potential. If you change the rotation of timber, harvest from 40 to 80 years, and that that can be quantified so there there can be quantified
additionality. From lengthening the rotation, of the harvest, in a forest
10:44:45 That's why, I think being relatively vague in this letter, but expressing our our support.
10:44:51 You know, while also stating in order to do a responsible cost benefit.
10:44:56 Analysis. We have to have more information. But I think that will give us some time to continue to to come up with our own mix of strategies.
10:45:05 I'm a little worried about waiting on or relying on Trust land transfer just because for so many years.
10:45:11 I've seen that be underfunded, and you know even when it is funded, it's one or 2 projects, a year and There's a whole backlog.
10:45:18 Yeah, we have actually had more with that than most.
10:45:23 Community, so we might not be kind of in the queue.
10:45:27 For next, stress line transfer. So I I'd hate to we actually are Devil's Lake is on the pilot list.
10:45:34 Yeah yeah, and it has been for a long. Time. Now, so hopefully, I thought that it didn't get Funded.
10:45:40 Nope, no, okay. but I think we're gonna probably need to decide on some of this before we have any information about trust and transfer.
10:45:49 You know, even this session, so or by Edm, so you know.
10:45:54 I think this is gonna be a part of our mix, and even if we could.
10:45:59 You know, identify. I don't know you know maybe we identify a couple of 1,000 acres and that that we think, would be appropriate for this program.
10:46:08 That we all agree, you know, meet some of the the criteria well, in the very beginning, if you recall, we were proposing love, the legacy for us, the 2,000, acres of Legacy
for us, and East, Jefferson, County yeah, I have a Down here, too.
10:46:27 Big question mark that's what caused the hair on fire Initially, and I you know, I still go back to that yeah, those some of those are South, of one of 4 so that's and that
is not a term that Dnr, so we can we can do age, Classes.
10:46:43 Just as easily. Yeah, I think that's also a bigger conversation about the long term sustainable yield planning with with Dnr and right there's some parcels in this Carbon Project,
map, that do not make sense to any of Us the met Walker yeah.
10:46:59 And and and even drew has said, well, I was you know I was really just trying to find more acres, because they were asking me for more acres.
10:47:07 And so you know it's and they've all, every they've in every conversation, and said well what's not gonna end up being this map, you know.
10:47:17 Yeah, but we should, having a conversation about weighing in on what parcels is an important piece of this, as you said Kate, it's important to talk, about why why certain parcels
and why not others I mean the the quemper last wilderness, is not in the Carbon.
10:47:36 Map, oh, no buffer around it, which is important.
10:47:41 But that's because they protected it. It's protected by the Dnr sustainable forest policy.
10:47:46 So you know, it's on it's
10:47:50 Yeah, like, I said, it's the complexity is is intense and thick.
10:47:56 But it doesn't sound like we need to get to that level in detail in this no. I felt like I felt like coming through their their public, input process, on the Carbon, Project
they had a November, eighteenth Deadline, and they kept saying to us you have longer and I've been we've, all
10:48:11 Been waiting for more information. But I feel like it's I feel like at some point we need to put our comment on the books that were supportive of the spirit in 10 of the Project.
10:48:20 And just still, need more information.
10:48:24 So.
10:48:27 Bring up bring back another letter next week with these suggestions. Oh, we're gonna wrap this up today.
10:48:33 I hope. Well, the there's I mean Kate's Points of Adding Strengthening, the Statewide Importance of the Carbon, Project and Fundamentally, changing the way We Fund, Stop Planning
we would like to Weigh in on Par Parcel that are Selected for the Process, We're, Willing to
10:48:53 Take a risk. We need to know what it is. It's strengthening that
10:49:00 And then adding triple bottom line from Greg, I mean if I add those pieces, hmm. You want to see another letter on the consent agenda on next Monday,
10:49:15 I'll tell you my 2 small typos.
10:49:19 Okay, again.
10:49:24 Oh! I'm not a second paragraph. We have received a much.
10:49:30 Input we have received a bunch and then next paragraph down. It was that we have received a bunch of them, pretty much. Input it says, just take up the word, and the next paragraph,
down it already got taken out.
10:49:43 Of this one, oh, great, that I have one which produces world, class, number and other forest products, while at the same time contributing to client, mitigation, that probably
is climate change migration, change mitigation, yeah, that's it, just small
10:50:00 I guess. I wonder if we should. I mean, I guess the level of Granularity of Explicitly looking when I say triple bottom line.
10:50:11 I think in the context of this letter. I would say, you know we are more interested in
10:50:18 Or tree growing properties that have you know that are in denser areas, and have recreational opportunities, like Anderson andy Anderson, State Park, Parcel and and the Quimper
loss the Quimper Parcel or Cape, George parce whatever they called it and and some of these other
10:50:38 Ones, I mean, that's just where I guess I I see a lot of I see that triple bottom line in the Anderson State parcel.
10:50:46 And I see it a little bit in the Quimper Parcel, and I I do like that.
10:50:50 It's common school. , take it so you know I you know I mean.
10:50:55 Why not call it or growing? Portree growing region, or something. I think it's a little bit of fodder for the the opponents, to the project, oh, okay. I mean I know that the
calculations, are solid.
10:51:09 So, but I just worry that a little bit but it's that's the kind of thing that people say.
10:51:14 Oh, they're just. You know. This is a
10:51:21 I guess we're really I mean, last productive, I just think it's better to say that there, the the recreational and compatible uses with encroachment and Population Growth are
Make some.
10:51:39 Good candidates for the current project. Yeah.
10:51:46 I think I got it
10:51:50 Okay, so, any more, discussion on this item before we take public comment
10:51:57 No because public comment is always illuminating on this topic.
10:52:02 So I. We might have more edits after we hear it so if there is anybody with us in the room or online today, who would like to make a public comment on our draft, letter to Dnr
regarding the carbon project or the discussion we've just been having about this letter, and the
10:52:26 Updates to it we would like to see before it's sent to Dnr, You can raise your hand, using the raise hand.
10:52:33 Button at the bottom of the zoom screen if you're in the room, you can raise your hand.
10:52:39 We do. Have a member of the public with us in the room, and I see Cindy brats we'll bring her over and then Patricia.
10:52:51 Okay.
10:52:48 There's anyone else with Us who would like to comment on this item, please raise your hand in using the raise hand Button
10:52:57 Okay, and then send you got up from her desk.
10:53:02 I see that there's another hand up in the oh, and Tom tears!
10:53:09 Okay.
10:53:12 Cindy, you're gonna be first, you'll have 3Â min for comment
10:53:17 Good morning, Commissioners. I've read your letter, and I don't disagree with it.
10:53:23 I think at this time it's a good general direction.
10:53:28 I think, one of our One, of the things that many of us have commented on is Encouraging Dnr to set Aside, Older Forests.
10:53:41 For so many reasons with climate change, mitigation being at the top for Me.
10:53:45 But I also wanted to mention that your discussion about recreation in these for Us.
10:53:52 And preserving Forests in publicly visible areas, is it's not just a good idea, but to be able to have out outdoor recreation bring in the public it stimulates.
10:54:05 Commerce in areas potentially like Closing Brennan, South County that need the revenue.
10:54:13 And this might be more of a a long term gain, where we need a short term fix to that revenue problem but it's just generally a good. Idea.
10:54:22 So I'm so glad to hear you talking about preserving tracks, you know.
10:54:27 Older Forward and contiguous Forests in populated area or areas, that people will want to use for recreation, which actually is potentially, the entire county so thank you so
much for your consideration oh, and I should have mentioned I'm Cindy, Broth, from Port Townsend just commenting as a member
10:54:49 Of the Public. Thank you.
10:54:49 Thank you. Thank you for your comment. Cindy, Patricia.
10:54:53 You'll be next
10:54:58 Good morning, Commissioners, Patricia Jones on Behalf of the Olympic Force Coalition close in Washington.
10:55:05 Thank you. For the opportunity to comment the work of Jefferson County, Charting a path forward I have 2 basic comments, both the Workshop, on the Thirtieth in this letter to
Dnr, starting with the Letter to Dnr, thank you for Continuing to Grapple with the
10:55:25 Forestry issues There's a piece of Information Critical Information Missing, both in the November Thirtieth Workshop and to be Mentioned at a High Level in this Dnr Lever Letter
could include a request for Information from the Agency
10:55:47 The report back from Chickadee, and I don't think Dnr has given Jefferson, County, the currently available stands, for Harvest it's a Primary question to ask the Department
of National Resources, what is the Standing, Timber, Inventory by Taxing District of the Plantation.
10:56:11 Stands, this Planning process, going, forward, even thinking, about selection of parcels, even thinking about north of 100 and 4, how can you do that without knowing the current,
inventory That's, Available It's Inconceivable to Me that we can actually Make a kind of plan for
10:56:29 solving a problem that may not exist. so standing Inventory by Taxing District, by age.
10:56:39 We need that information, absolutely please consider. Asking Dnr to stop bringing Forward Older Forests into the sales rotations.
10:56:48 We have. What now, we're gonna have 800 900 acres of the crumbs.
10:56:54 Left. They Dnr brings forward every year that Amount of Acreage into the Sales, Inventory.
10:56:59 They don't need to bring these older forests. Now they can bring forward Plantation stands.
10:57:05 When we get the data. There's really no good reason not to ask for this data, there's only bad reasons.
10:57:11 Ask them to stop working on older forests. And include this data in the planning Project by Chickadee, Forestry.
10:57:19 Even if it means delaying, that report back from January a few months, while we wait to get the actual stand inventory.
10:57:28 We could be trying to solve a problem and fighting against each other.
10:57:32 That really doesn't exist. I don't think it does.
10:57:34 And it's up to Dnr to really tell us.
10:57:37 Thank you.
10:57:38 Thank you. Tom Tears, you'll need to unmute, and then there's someone with their hand up on the phone, okay.
10:57:51 How many of 3Â min.
10:57:53 Okay. Thank you. Thank you, commissioners, this, I I think I think, Jefferson, County, might be headed the wrong way on this matter.
10:58:05 When it comes to supporting the State's participation, and the Buying and Selling of Carbon Offsets or carbon Credits They're sometimes called you know to be of any Value a
carbon Credit has to be real it has to be Verified it has to be enforceable and it has to
10:58:20 Be additional and only about 15% of the carbon credits on the market meet.
10:58:26 All those criteria, it's not at all clear to me that Dnr's plan, is is one of those most carbon credits are really well, they do nothing to produce to to reduce Co.
10:58:39 2, and Methane, emissions. They can often make things worse by allowing the worst polluters to simply buy their way out instead of actually reducing their missions.
10:58:48 Oil and gas companies are among the worst offenders.
10:58:51 There, carbon credits are really just a scam.
10:58:56 They're a con, and then a word. They are greenwashing, just Google, the phrase, our carbon credits, a scam, you'll find lots of well-researched articles that describe the situation,
and the issues.
10:59:11 You'll see things from the natural resources, Defense Council, Greenpeace, Yale Cornell.
10:59:17 You know that that reinforce what I've just been saying.
10:59:21 You know, I I think you know the the Carbon project in Washington might be well intentioned, but I think Jefferson County is making mistake by buying into it because it I just
Don't see it see?
10:59:33 It working the way that people think it's gonna work it's a scam, and you shouldn't be participating in it sorry to be so negative.
10:59:44 Hmm thank you, Tom, we appreciate, your comments. Now, the Caller ending in 1, 6, 5, you have your hand up, and you'll be unmuted and have 3, min for public, comments.
10:59:58 Hi, this is Marsha Philippine, can you hear me? Okay.
11:00:02 Yeah. Who could you say your name again? Sorry you're
11:00:08 I'm sorry this is Marcia Kelvin, and I don't have the best set up at the minute. I'm hoping you can hear me
11:00:10 Yeah, you're breaking up a little bit. But we can hear you Marsha
11:00:13 Okay. Great. you, you guys, already, kind of know where I my thoughts on this from prior meetings.
11:00:21 I, just wanted to thank you for including the language in the letter, your questions the hard data before we can make decisions.
11:00:28 I think that is critical I'm grateful.
11:00:31 That Peter bell has provided some data, but of course, you know he has one perspective, and and there, this might have a particular lean.
11:00:40 And I was I was interested that we we're having estimates.
11:00:42 That included $2, a year, $2 for 10 years.
11:00:48 So I think the Instruments increase in Carbon Credit Prices.
11:00:54 But didn't reflect increases in super prices and all that's just to simply say, we don't need to press Dnr for Hard data.
11:01:00 So thank you for doing that I hope. You don't use that message.
11:01:03 As for the letter, as I I think commissioner Dean, said, who you know we are, we are, a tender county it took me down here in the South, end all we have is Timber and tourism,
and and under the Competitive, plan we don't have a chance.
11:01:17 To do, a lot more generate, revenue. So we, we are dependent on that, both for schools and fire districts, and I am the commissioner down here for for Egyptian fire district
number. 2, so we really rely on that those funds, and it's, time to tell B and
11:01:33 R, we need to find another way to fund it. But that's really that's really a message to the Legislature, as opposed to Dnr, so I just wanted to thank you, for Listening and
for including that information in there, on getting hard data, as Well as the information about impact on jobs, I was at the end of the letter I
11:01:50 Just hope we don't distribute those in our enthusiasm.
11:01:54 So I think. Thank you both at all 3 of commissioners and and and Mr. To colleague.
11:02:00 Thank you, Marsha, anybody else with us who would like to make a comment on the Counties letter proposed letter to Dnr regarding the Carbon Project or the discussion We've been
having please use the raise hand Button at the Bottom, of the Zoom Screen, we love to hear from you if you have something to
11:02:21 Add to the discussion, I see. Number come to the podium, yeah. We do have a hand in the room, so on invite gene ball up for comment.
11:02:33 Good morning Commissioners, Gene Balk, will seem somebody please tell me.
11:02:39 How we fail to fund schools with 8 billion people on the planet of course, that's not Jefferson, County or Washington or the United States.
11:02:47 But there's plenty of people. How do we not fund schools.
11:02:51 This isn't. It is unsustainable that we are encroaching on the environment at such a rate we can't provide revenue for schooling.
11:03:00 We should be focused on population control and reducing our impacts.
11:03:05 This is the first time ever in Washington state, we are below 50% capacity for forestation
11:03:15 I think you should be asking for more from Dnr we should expect cuts to our requests never ask for less always shoot for the moon we're gonna get our knees, cut out, on this.
11:03:32 One. Peter has offered to do the update on the Force for the Future, at no cost to the county he's working on it.
11:03:38 Now I think it's critical. Information. He is uniquely positioned to provide this information, and he is the resident next on the subject matter.
11:03:51 I think you should be visionary. Think about your legacy.
11:03:55 100 years from now, people are gonna look back. And they're gonna wonder what happened in this time, in this moment we're living in They're gonna judge, you based on what you
accomplished, that was thinking outside the box they're not going to wonder how many eggs, you had to crack, to Make
11:04:10 That omelette. They're gonna look at what we produce in the fours and for the the community.
11:04:17 So I I encourage you to think about it like that the thing is I'd like to push back a little bit on this notion that carbon credits somehow enable polluters do.
11:04:32 We take the approach with Drug drug addicts, that rehabilitation is inappropriate.
11:04:37 Do we fail to provide Narcan for people who have overdosed.
11:04:42 I think, that's absurd you do what you can you try to move policy, you try to increase the improve the practices.
11:04:50 But you don't deny options to make improvements.
11:04:55 Nobody can deny that forests and trees, store carbon.
11:04:59 So that's a silly thing to say. Thank you.
11:05:03 Thank you, Jane.
11:05:07 Anybody else with us this morning, who would like to make a comment on this topic, the only option now is in the zoom.
11:05:14 Room. I see. So, if You're in the Zoom Room, and you'd like to comment and you haven't already on this important Topic, please use the Raise Hand Button at the Bottom of the
Zoom Screen
11:05:27 If there's I see Carolyn chatted him.
11:05:31 Nope, I'm not seeing any other hands go up. So I will close public comment on this topic, and
11:05:39 Open it up for more conversation with my colleagues.
11:05:43 Yup, can we respond to public comments, sort of context to the letter that's what I meant by conversation.
11:05:50 Yeah, I can go first, I really do appreciate folks, contributing and such a constructive way, to Miss Jones, the person inventory.
11:06:04 You know, and the stand age. I think those are absolutely reasonable questions I think maybe this letter is in the context, for that.
11:06:12 But as we you know our last quarterly update with Dnr, was one of 4 the kind of Dug, a little deeper into their planning regimen, I think this is an important component of that
that I agree that we really do.
11:06:25 Need that information. So I I hear you there, I'm not sure if the letter is appropriate, the Appropriate place, to put it which is a little bit higher level but I take your
point yeah, the older, forest it's it's definitely, a common situation, well, you know just working more with our
11:06:45 Planners, locally in Dnr I think is a is a big step to that to Mr.
11:06:50 Tears is a comment about carbon offsets being a scam, you know.
11:06:56 I think it's an it's pretty in the industry, you know there's not the voluntary market.
11:07:05 Is pretty flexible. Absolutely right proving, that additionality is troublesome seeing finite, carbon, step back from the the Dnr project, is another.
11:07:15 You know, kind of bad portion for that. And I think it's it's challenging, and and you know, if we had a mandatory market like California does it would be a slightly different
thing, but making good.
11:07:30 Carbon credits, something that is still seems to me a bit of a more of an art, than a science.
11:07:37 And I think we need to get to more science. But I do think in the same way that you, know Mr.
11:07:41 Tears, drives an electric car, and I drive an electric car and and sometimes you have to be on the bleeding edge to push things forward.
11:07:48 I think about my daughter and her potential progeny, and and this is not something that we can put off.
11:07:55 So I think helping to develop these markets is something that we can do, and that involves a higher level of risk than a lot of other things.
11:08:03 Do that's why, I guess I'm I favor a smaller. Smaller.
11:08:10 Intro into that continuing to develop locally what good carbon credits are.
11:08:17 And I think, that understanding if we can, you know, develop one strong carbon credit in some of our smaller forest Product properties, and and go through that process we will
know so much more so it's we're we're in the learning stage and I think that we're all willing to risk something to
11:08:36 Develop. What is I believe, going to be one of the tools in the toolkit to move us to a carbon neutral economy, which we have to do so, yeah, worth some risk I think appreciate,
Miss Kelvan's Comments, and I'm I'm I'm sure, that we
11:08:55 Will not lose that that component in the letter of request requiring more information before we can get behind a project.
11:09:04 I think that's what I was trying to say to Mr.
11:09:07 Tears. As well, so thank you all for your comments.
11:09:09 Oh, and to Miss Jane, 50%, you mean, we have 50% of the forest that we used to have in across the landscape of Washington okay.
11:09:21 No. Specified. Okay, I you know it's yeah.
11:09:29 Looking for alternative ways to to fund our schools. I mean.
11:09:32 I looked at the Rcw of Sustainable yield.
11:09:35 This this weekend and you know it's explicitly mentioned in the Rcw, that that funding our schools is a big part of that and I you know there's A lot of different ways.
11:09:44 But yeah extractive technologies to to Fund basic Services is is problematic as as people increase and resources, diminish.
11:09:55 But you know, we talk a lot about working inside, the box, and sometimes outside of the box.
11:09:59 But you should still build the box out of wood, and I guess I'll stop that
11:10:10 Let's see I I have not been involved deeply enough to understand Miss Jones, comment about Standing Inventory and I I know that's something that you probably talked about heidi
so defer to your expertise, on that I guess i'll just mostly address Mr.
11:10:31 Tearsh's concern, and maybe it's you know, as an insider.
11:10:37 I probably have some faith in government that. Not everybody does, but I feel like we live in a very sophisticated state that that has high environmental standards and I can't
imagine.
11:10:53 That we would be particular in a project that was not scientifically sound, and and independently verified.
11:11:02 So, you know that's I share the concern that's the existing partner, pulled out of that project.
11:11:11 But I just think there's gonna be a lot of scrutiny on this project and that the State will only be able to proceed once a solid partner has been found in that realm we we aren't
a state that does things quickly and easily when it, comes to anything environmental and our housing and all Sorts of
11:11:29 things suffer as a result. But you know we we think we do a good job of ensuring adequate protections.
11:11:37 So I don't share that concern one thing in the the list of tools in the toolbox, in in the draft Letter,
11:11:48 I do. Wonder if we want to call out things, like, you know, kind of alternative management, systems, whether that's longer rotations or variable thinning or you know that is
something that we have talked about with Dnr and just could be another another part of the toolbox, I did talk, with hillary about longer
11:12:07 Rotations. And I think that's really tied into the sustainable yield.
11:12:12 And probably while we have some of the older forests that are being log is to meet those longer rotation standards that are part of sustainable yield.
11:12:20 Do you understand that more deeper than I do
11:12:29 Is sustainable yield have ages stand as one of the criteria, because I feel like one of the reasons that we're getting more of our older Forests Cut is part of that sustainable
Yield Calculation and Just Making sure that you have certain Cause I think Longer Rotations.
11:12:47 Are already there and that's why the're cutting these Trees, that you know, some folks are really concerned about that's true. So I think that whole sustainable you Conversation
and the Standing Forest Inventory.
11:12:59 Is would prop pull the the veil off of that.
11:13:02 So we can look at it, but I think the conclusion we might come to is if we're gonna support longer rotations.
11:13:07 That means cutting down these older forms, or you know and that's, how how are you defining older, right?
11:13:15 So so longer rotations are thought to be you know 60 to 80 years.
11:13:20 It's not we're not talking about cutting down you know, and that's not the 300 Year Old Trees 1,800 and 50 they won't cut down right and first, grow right?
11:13:36 Hmm, yeah.
11:13:40 No I mean I've been reading a lot about longer rotations, contribution to carbon, offset.
11:13:46 And I find it incredibly compelling.
11:13:50 But that means that you still have to cut them around we know we get it told asked not to allow any only trees to be harvesting natural regeneration, as part of that too but
that's.
11:14:03 Why, I also think naturally generation, we should have that conversation, too.
11:14:08 Or you know look to Dnr's common practice of you know planting planting a forest instead of planting a monoprop, and that doesn't really work for Doug, Fur you know I Mean There's,
a Lot of Nuance you know we have Foresters, that are that are Planning
11:14:23 this Work, and some land, is appropriate for a Doug fur, and if Doug fur is being planted, then a Monopoly makes a lot of sense, and herbicides Make a lot of sense, because
it doesn't Deal well, it needs You know no shade can't be outshooted or it
11:14:38 will grow. And climate. Change is changing planting, planning for planting, right?
11:14:45 Now right companies that are not planting red Cedar much anymore.
11:14:53 Due to drought, the yeah, yeah. Red Cedar is really suffering.
11:14:57 So you know the the species that tolerate certain gladitudes are changing, and you know the the Forest Managers on the Ground are taking all of that into Consideration and so
is Dnr I mean we were out when we were out on that Tour, with Dnr capital forest I asked
11:15:19 That question, I said, are you changing what you plan due to climate change.
11:15:23 And I said absolutely so, I mean people who are still saying climate change doesn't exist.
11:15:29 That's another challenge that that lack of acceptance, of so our foresters, our plan, our are, have accepted it, and they're planning for it at this point, climate change, adaptation
in the in the planning is good.
11:15:44 Yeah, but longer, rotations do mean a rotation. You know, yeah, is it just case in my camp, down the road.
11:15:52 And Then they're older trees, and then people really don't want to see them.
11:15:57 Well, that's why these conversations about Forests that are near urbanizing areas, or you know where a lot more development is happening.
11:16:04 I mean, it's it feels like Dnr back in the day was given every 2 sections in every township to manage in perpetuity, right and the a lot's Changed since 18 whatever in terms
of you know where where people are on the land and where forestry is efficient.
11:16:26 And so it's it's a really, like I said, I mean, I most days have a headache at the end of the day, because I try and check this on to my hmm, normal normal Stack, of 20, committees
and it's it's really challenging I mean it's
11:16:43 But I I kind of feel like I'm I'm I've fitting it off.
11:16:48 And I'm gonna chew it, you know, and you're asking for more natural resources.
11:16:54 Yeah, we'll see where that goes I think, another thing to say on that that point.
11:16:58 Heidi is that, yeah, frc constantly pushes back with that ipc recommendation.
11:17:05 And it's true that the worst possible outcome for any of these stands would be convergent to rural residential right so I think that's impossible in growth management to be
clear.
11:17:17 We are not allowed to convert resource lines. Right? Okay, well, that's good.
11:17:21 But I you know.
11:17:28 In private forest lands. And I think if we resist doing anything you know, you don't conserve you don't.
11:17:35 Cut, I think, that that that Boogie man, whether it's a red herring or not, will come up with some of these these stands that are closer to population, so Yeah I mean I yes,
private, but that's not what We're, talking about here.
11:17:51 And but the yeah we we would have to see enormous growth pressure to be able to justify any conversion which we don't.
11:17:58 Now, but we are talking about the future. So I I recognize that that could be in the in our future lenses.
11:18:06 But the last time we you know, attempted any land use on resource land we landed right in the group management, hearing sport, if we had lost it so to be clear that's not easily,
done the shooting, range, yeah, yeah, proposal, yeah.
11:18:27 Hey well, I have my marching order to update the letter.
11:18:30 Do you want me to bring it back next week sure. Unless you wanted to bring it back today.
11:18:35 And we could recess and give you some time to work on it, but I don't know if that's in your I could bring it back in your after noon, 1 31 45 got a fairly light. Agenda, but
I you know it's, always fun to write a Letter Edit
11:18:50 a letter, and in open session together
11:18:56 There is an important conversation at the meeting today, about voluntary stewardship which goes to briefing earlier.
11:19:02 But I can refer to a report back from Kate on that. And yeah, okay, so it's
11:19:17 Which I think the reason they're doing.
11:19:26 It is because there's some fear that the voluntary studentship program will no longer exist with the new Right period, Management structure at the State, and so Those Involved
in Vsp Conservation, Commission and Counties are like really wanting to Kind of Make the case for keeping it Vibrant.
11:19:50 Supported. I I can go and it's interesting. I I brought my list today, so don't don't cancel.
11:19:57 It? Why not
11:19:59 Okay, anything else, this morning.
11:20:04 Mark Carolyn, do you finish your calendaring more, briefing.
11:20:13 I didn't I told you about 2 things, right? Let's see
11:20:19 Last week. I told you about the Carbon Conference
11:20:24 I'm on the Transit Finance Committee. I mean sales tax is just booming still for Transit I mean, we're they're just coming along and and I would to their credit, they are planning
procedures.
11:20:40 Still, so so I that you know it's a fairly new team.
11:20:43 There and I think Miranda is doing a great job in the finance role.
11:20:48 And she and Nicole and Jamie and the entire team, I mean I think they're really jelling and doing super work.
11:20:59 Yeah, want to say around proper
11:21:04 We session is short, 1145.
11:21:08 I, think we, so let's say, 2 o'clock for the letter, because we might have an extension of the Exact Session.
11:21:13 So we're gonna talk about the letter to Dnr at 2 o'clock. That will come back amended
11:21:21 Okay, so continuing, along I also, attended the Jefferson Case Foundation Holiday party, which was my first Hushed Mention of Feeling like I met a super spreader event.
11:21:33 And I went outside and sat under a heater with my mask on.
11:21:37 And I was like, okay, But I think at that point and then the next day.
11:21:40 I came in and asked Dr. Barry to join us. Believe
11:21:46 I worked on this letter, I attended a couple of Trustland transfer meetings last Thursday.
11:21:56 We are working on our legislative strategy to get the 25 million Dollar Request for the Pilot Project list, which includes Devils Lake on it, and also the Statutory Changes,
that are Coming That are being Compiled into a Bill so we'll be working both of those Pieces with
11:22:17 The Legislature, and We're planning a lobby day around Trust land transfer on the 20 Sixth of January there's also a lobby Day on the Washington Mile Live from Recreation, Program,
on the First of February Or second of February So
11:22:31 I'll be going to both of those those are both in person
11:22:36 I attended the Clean Water District Advisory Council Quarterly Meeting and
11:22:42 It was very much just a report of all the the data at the various stations.
11:22:49 And then I I also met with Peter Bail. So he was busy with us last week.
11:22:54 Sorry, Peter. I guess I'm not really sorry. And then it.
11:23:00 Yeah, I think, I think by Thursday, last week I just felt like my head, was thick with all this for stuff.
11:23:09 And I had I had gone out the Sunday previous Sunday and walking the rest of the Quimper parcel with Steve, Grace, seeing how cut over it is and it's a very different very very
different than the last Wilderness section, of that person so that was interesting but Carbon Project proposed
11:23:29 Area, or the We're in the in the North Area, so not the Carbon Project area,
11:23:35 So that was Thursday, and then I on Friday went in person to the Red Cedar Hall and Blynn and participated in the straight Ecosystem Recovery Network Quarterly meeting which
I Love that Group, It's An Awesome Table, Full of Rock Stars, from all all All All
11:24:00 Components of conservation. You know, marine, terrestrial, I mean just just really great proposals on your term actions, that a number of of our community organizations have
been working on for the last I Don't know how many years but just great results wonderful reports super I just Feel, like I feel like
11:24:22 It's Model Work, Coming out of that Round Table. So was really really impressed with the work.
11:24:31 In Odc, They Presented On Climate and Rebecca Benjamin from Nask Presented I can't remember exactly what it was now my, the the Haze was Thick by Friday, morning, but I Just
left there, going okay, We're on We're on a We're on a Good Path
11:24:51 Here on the north Olympic, Peninsula and our work as well served by that that collaborative Round Table, and then the best thing in my Week happened on Friday Afternoon I went
for a Walk with a Constituent and we went Bush Whacking I'm all
11:25:07 Scraped up. But I felt like oh, my God, I am in my element.
11:25:12 For once, so so it was awesome. We were out on my mom's property, on Marathon Island, and just having catching up by a conversation and bush, Whacking and getting Completely
Scraped up it was awesome, so and then I went to the the Farmers, Craft fair on Saturday which
11:25:33 Was another thing where I was like Whoa, lot of people in the room, but they were good about masks.
11:25:38 There, and on Sunday I went to the Nutcracker, the port towns in high school, which was awesome, but another, it just made underscored the Comments I made this morning with
Dr.
11:25:47 Barry of like we are in the time, of gathering, and I hope our community can heed the call of masking up and Getting Vaccinated or Staying.
11:25:59 Home. If you're not feeling. Well, so that was my last week.
11:26:07 Mark what about you? What did you do last week well, let's see on Monday, with the Board.
11:26:14 Okay, Friday I have to take a card in Tacoma.
11:26:20 So I was off on right there, in between. I have a number of things.
11:26:26 I did mentioned last week that I was going to be a staff meeting and good, quite a bit of staff work, and much of it will appear on the Agenda for next Monday some of which
appeared today on Tuesday had Senior Management Team, Meeting also had a Meeting with Dcd Staff to
11:26:45 Prepare for the meeting with the building industry folks who's that Coker and the President of that Organization and then of course we have risk management in the Morning at
1030 and then I Met with the Prosecuting Attorney, the Clerk, and Sarah Melonson, to
11:27:08 Talk about the Blake position that you Approved as moving forward with today on on Wednesday, Day was clear staff work on that day, Thursday, at the CEO Breakfast with Ec team
Jefferson and then Agenda Pre with Heidi in the Afternoon and So that Short
11:27:31 Week. Okay, but productive and how was that meeting with the Home Builders?
11:27:36 Association surprisingly cordial I can share an after action report with you folks, if you'd like to
11:27:46 Yeah, I'd love to know how that's going and how the implementation implementation of the You.
11:27:53 Know Legal Out of Record and site development review processes going.
11:27:57 I did get a little bit of a staff, update, but yeah, and and Cds brought on some additional new staff members that they're training up. So
11:28:07 We're helpful and and Josh and Brent are learning how to do sdrs themselves, and so they'll be sitting down with a number of those to help Tam down that feed Backlog and it
goes live yeah, and her go was Live and and that there have been some Minor.
11:28:30 Hiccups, but the team, you know I got a I asked Pinky how it was going and she commended Treasurer Office staff and staff and Public Health for Addressing, an Issue, with Cashiering
and so I went back, and said it takes a Village and certainly we have a Village
11:28:50 Working on this, and so it's live, but it's not public facing yet, right
11:28:59 There's a lot of public facing capability there, but much like munice, where we have capability we have having it exploited the same will be true within her gov for example,
when we go live, with human capital management, we're not gonna do employees self, service, right away we wanna make sure
11:29:19 that the payrolls that are coming out of hcm, are accurate, so We're Gonna run Dual Payrolls Out of Gems and Munice and then Reconcile but I Am Reporting Personal Actions, in
Munice, now Just like I Do
11:29:35 invoices, which is really great, so steady progress across the Board so is there any idea.
11:29:41 I mean, I remember talking about Intergub during my campaign, which was like 3 years ago.
11:29:46 Now right, we began a 2,018. So yes, it's been a what was that thing.
11:29:58 And now did the long march I hate to use mail as an example.
11:30:00 But that's what it's been. Well, nice work.
11:30:07 I mean, you want to wait and take take time to write a letter.
11:30:12 Now, or oh, I'll bring back the letter. I don't hate doing public or oh, I wasn't trying.
11:30:17 I was saying, if you want to recess, now, or do you want to go into to briefing, and whichever is for calendaring, I mean let's Recess, now and We'll do we'll do calendaring
after the letter this afternoon We Don't have a lot this afternoon and I'd love to escape a little early to transport my
11:30:37 daughter around how early is that 2 45, that's okay, we should.
11:30:40 Well, do. We wanna do calendaring now, then, I think it'll be time. I just
11:30:47 I don't have anything else. yeah the letter won't take 45Â min.
11:30:53 So we could do that in okay, sounds, good, okay, recessing. Until, 1, 30, great, thank you
13:30:17 Hey!
13:30:20 Record
13:30:29 It's one
13:30:26 Wow! Okay. it's one.
13:30:33 Turning.
13:30:33 Turning this off
13:30:36 Hey!
13:30:36 Okay.
13:30:38 Oh, I can make it so
13:30:38 Why can I hear myself okay, back into order at 1 30.
13:30:48 And we are immediately
13:30:53 Yeah
13:30:41 Okay, 130, and we are hmm, 80,
13:30:58 Leave your meeting. You don't need to be in this meeting you could just leave it, because you're gonna go to the other one.
13:31:02 I'm not in the you're on this meeting.
13:31:06 Here, you can still talk we can just do our general open session stuff on the Owl and look up there. And then if you log off of that meeting this is our meeting, I think it
would be late
13:31:31 I bet that takes care of her. Okay, sorry was my fault, I'm calling us back into order and we are immediately going to be going into an executive session with the county administrator,
and chief civil debut prosecuting attorney Regarding Actual Litigation, exemption, exemption, is
13:31:50 outlawed in the open public Meetings Act, Rcw. 40.
13:31:53 2. Point 1, 10, Parentheses, one parentheses, i will be going in at 131 and coming out. At 1, 45,
13:45:00 Oh!
13:45:04 Came back. Oh, I'm
13:45:04 Okay. I'm back. Oh, I'm bad. Mute.
13:45:10 So we still have to talk in the microphone.
13:45:17 Hey, Abian, it's 1, 45. I'm calling us back to order.
13:45:24 We are coming out of executive session, and we will be taking action.
13:45:28 My dear colleagues, each have an action. They would like to take who wants to go first
13:45:37 Sure.
13:45:40 I move that the Board of County Commissioners Authorized chair, Eisenhower to sign, a Conflict Waiver for Philip Hunsucker to continue to represent the County in the St Mary
Lawsuit this will be Confirmed in Writing with the Chair, of the Board Signing a written Conflict Waiver to
13:45:56 be provided by the prosecuting attorney's office
13:46:00 Oh, second all in favor.
13:46:09 In the matter of a Conflict Waiver in this case, if so use the raise hand, button at the bottom of your Zoom, screen.
13:46:27 And if not, okay, i'm gonna close public comment on this, item, and we'll move to the second motion.
13:46:34 Oh, we have to vote sorry all in favor of the motion on the table Hi passes unanimously.
13:46:42 Greg, I move that the Board of county Commissioners confirm, that the County Administrator has authority to approve any litigation decisions in the St.
13:46:50 Mary, a Lawsuit except for settlements. This motion does not excuse reports to the Board necessary to keep it.
13:46:55 Advised of the progress of the St. Mary Lawsuit I'll second. And now I will take public comment on the Second Motion is anyone with us today who would like to Make a Public
comment on the Motion on the Table
13:47:14 Yep, I'll get them to you.
13:47:19 Jean, you're gonna I don't see her
13:47:24 I'm here. Can you hear me?
13:47:25 Yep, we can. Hear you've got 3Â min
13:47:28 I heard Commissioner Brotherton's motion. I just wonder if you could flesh it out a little bit so that we understand what it. Really means.
13:47:41 I mean it's just in the matter of a lawsuit right.
13:47:47 Current lawsuit. So I don't think we want to flush it out that much
13:47:54 Anything else to add colleagues.
13:47:58 Public lawsuit. You know, against the prosecuted office, I guess.
13:48:04 And then this is just we took we made these actions last week.
13:48:07 Actually, this just memorializes them in writing.
13:48:12 I think, since the Lawsuit is a public document, and Philip Homesucker is named in the lawsuit that the Conflict Just allows Him to participate in the proceedings, even though
He's named
13:48:29 Anything else, Jane, does that make sense oh, you're muted, you're moved back over sorry Jean Crystal I'm, sure okay.
13:48:42 So we now need to vote on the motion on the Table, all in favor, Bye, Bye.
13:48:49 Okay, passes unanimously thanks to our team for handling this matter.
13:48:55 We appreciate you, okay, so the next thing, that's not on our agenda, but that we talked about this morning was me being bringing back a.
13:49:09 Room, we did, both bringing back a revised letter about Dnr's Carbon policy.
13:49:17 Which I have spent much of my lunch hour revising the letter and
13:49:24 Oh, right. Okay. So calendar, calendaring calendaring till whenever 2 hmm.
13:49:36 Who wants to do calendaring first, go first. I'll say my biggest conflict is 2 weeks from now, the swearing in ceremony for Elected has been set for Friday the Twenty-third
but I, am for much of next week, going to be in Canada and will be probably on
13:49:54 the road back, and cannot make it by one o'clock.
13:49:57 So I need to arrange my own swearing of the oath, and I was wondering if we might do it on Monday the Nineteenth wait it has to happen 10 days, before oh, wait maybe 10 days
more than 10 days I mean it. Doesn't have to be a meeting or
13:50:19 Anything, but yeah, I was sworn in before
13:50:26 And is Judge Harper doing them judge Harper is doing them on the 20.
13:50:31 Third, I can I can. See if my I can find something that works into his schedule at a different time, that chain time is not going to change or you know one of you can do it
or the auditor, I mean there's, lots of almost any within the county, can do it oh.
13:50:44 Yeah, Carol, can do it. Have you ever sworn anyone in.
13:50:47 Oh, that's exciting possibility, all right.
13:50:52 Well, I guess I thought the nineteenth, but I think it has to be within 10 days of the new term.
13:50:56 Which that would not be so, I don't have a plan.
13:50:59 Yet I guess when will you be oh, I'll put a PIN in, that but it can't happen next Monday as I Ruth's retirement party is on the thirtieth in the afternoon We'd be here for that
I will could it be done at that that's fun yeah, no I like
13:51:13 That I do let's so I'll pursue that and see maybe it could be one of our last acts.
13:51:17 I think the clerk can do it too right
13:51:20 Just, the court she's not independently elected, I like the idea of Carolyn doing it, too.
13:51:29 Perhaps perhaps but other than that this this Coming week, let's see, I have Tourism, Coordinating Council tomorrow Morning, which Conflicts as I.
13:51:44 Always seem to with the Jefferson, County Human Services collaborators, meeting that Tony, Burnett Convenes.
13:51:51 So I cannot do that I think. Heidi at least is also invited to that I will be able to make the Jeff Con meeting immediately after that, and then a meeting with city Council
Member howard after that talk about both Housing Fund Board and holy cap on wednesday, we have a personnel Committee as we
13:52:13 Start, a salary survey at orca, there's, the Orca Meeting was Canceled, but There's a Personal Committee, and Finance Committee and in and instead I then have to leave that
early To Go and pass my vote in the Board of natural Resources Candidate Forum or
13:52:33 I've got a hometown favorite that I'm hoping to vote for
13:52:38 Then I have the developers meeting at Seventh Haven, Noon, and the only Cap meeting at from like 4 30 to 7 30, then there's a Housing Solutions, Network Holiday party that I'm
gonna Try, to just Pop in and Things matter Voice on Thursday, the Koswell, brown, Village, Meeting, is
13:52:59 At 1030, and then I'll be Sharing, the Board of Health Meeting at 2, 30 and then Agenda Planning for Housing Fund Board after that and then those are the Kind of the High Points
of my Week
13:53:16 Do, we do. We know how many votes we get in the Board natural resources, I think just one right it can be fractional.
13:53:26 So like if 2 of Us wanted to support one candidate and one of us wanted to support another candidate, it can be two-thirds, one third, so we don't vote at this it's just the
Candidate Forum and I Hope so on the nineteenth, we might want to take
13:53:47 Action. Yeah, yeah, okay, hey, mark, could you could you put that down on the agenda planner, so that we don't forget, yeah, and Paul, sent an email, saying, we needed to organize
our own vote, so that would be the best time to do it on
13:54:03 And any idea on quorum for Board of Health.
13:54:11 Have you heard anything I haven't heard any are you.
13:54:15 I have a conflict, but I can. I could duck out I'm in a leadership, council, meeting for the Pdc partnership all day, but I could deck out especially for if we have any action,
Items the one Concern, is I think we have Fees, to Approve,
13:54:36 Hearing for the Fee, increase that's but we can we can always change the order of the agenda, and do that at on the hour, you know. 2, 30, or so I could Jump out. For that okay,
I will let apple no
13:54:54 Okay, my week ahead. well, I wonder if we should should we look further any other new Year like end up till end of year yeah. It'd be good to know where people are going to
be away.
13:55:11 Or the following. It's very easy for me if you want me to you're here on Monday, and then I will be hitting the road, Tuesday to spend Tuesday Wednesday and thursday, coming
back Friday up at Whistler, and BC I'll, still be able to do the
13:55:26 Jeff, Com meeting on Thursday and Zoom Trap Plan on Zoom and end for the Authority Board.
13:55:33 That's probably Tuesday transit. Right? Right?
13:55:42 Oh, that's next week, okay, yeah, and then.
13:55:49 Christmas. I don't know we're looking even after that just a good to know when when people are away.
13:55:56 I'm around. But you know, kids, off school and everything.
13:55:59 It's a it's I will be here
13:56:03 But don't have a lot scheduled, the the Week of the 20 fifth, just on Wednesday, the Housing Fund Board was Canceled.
13:56:10 Actually I went. Nothing nothing scheduled except you don't have a budget Committee meeting.
13:56:15 It's so. I have nothing scheduled.
13:56:17 The following week. Yes.
13:56:21 Okay, this week,
13:56:28 Hmm, we have a economic development Council finance committee meeting tomorrow morning, then a briefing call with the Leadership Council in preparation for a meeting later in
the week, I have a meeting on Workforce Development tomorrow afternoon, you know if you heard that Kelly Watson was Hired by West sound
13:56:52 STEM couple of months ago, so I think there's some, you know an effort to try to get more happen and locally with the I'm not meeting with her, but another, another career,
connect meeting but you know just really trying to get more opportunity out here, in the peninsula, then at class action
13:57:13 committee meeting. I've not taken a look at the agenda for that.
13:57:18 But I believe we're gonna be talking about. I don't know if I brought this up to you before that the private action Committee might be recommending to us, that we update our
climate or or Mitigation.
13:57:30 Goal to reflect the New Cop Goal. So and I Can't remember what that is so our old one was 50% of 1990, Levels by 25. Now
13:57:49 Was it by twenty-fifty and now it's by twenty-thirty, something like, that.
13:57:54 Okay. Well, just just be warned. That's coming coming at us.
13:58:00 Wednesday, the Legislative Steering committee.
13:58:05 We're starting to get ready for the update session.
13:58:08 So have a meeting, just the the co-chairs, and Paul Jewel meet on Wednesday morning to plan for our first meeting on January the fifth is your is it the same Co-chair, with
you yeah, then meeting with prosecuting Attorney's office, on the Legal
13:58:31 Matter Board of Natural Resources, meeting and then a meeting with the Child Care team.
13:58:42 I can't remember which one that is, we have a couple regular meetings we're having a little bit of a challenge.
13:58:48 We did get the additional match for the Child Care, Center, from Department of Commerce,
13:58:54 But it's Unclear so that Jefferson healthcare really wants to hand the project over to the Y.M.C.A.
13:59:01 And department of Commerce is saying because Jefferson Health Care was the applicants that they won't take this additional funding to the Y.M.C.A., even though Y.M.C.A. was
Funded also for their Fred Angelus Project So They're Embedded Partner, So We're
13:59:21 Trying to Work, a number of angles to see if we can apply pressure to get them to make that transition is partly matters just because we will also be contracting we all you'll
get the contract.
13:59:35 Back from the Y.M.C.A. for the Arpa Funds I got confirmation of that, but then when we get the Federal appropriation, we have to figure out who how we are getting that money.
13:59:47 To whoever is actually going to be owning, building, running the child care center.
13:59:52 So it's a we very well might end up in a complicated Mou for a little while, with the why Jefferson Health care, and the School District sorry, mark, but still mostly need to
get commerce, too.
14:00:13 Agree, I mean, I think Jefferson Healthcare would take the money, and you know I I don't think it's gonna get in the way of the Project. Happening.
14:00:20 But it's they're really wanting to focus on their building.
14:00:23 And it's really between the Y.M.C.A. and the school district.
14:00:25 S at this point, so so hold up there Thursday I'm at a leadership Council meeting all day in Tacoma I will hop out of there for Board of Health if Needed, Friday, mark we should
decide if we Wanna Do the Coordination, Covid Coordination Meeting we Haven't, done One
14:00:48 for a while, but there's also, not a lot of reason, potentially, given that we summon Dr.
14:00:56 Barry on Short Notice for this morning. You know maybe maybe a quick meeting encourage masking.
14:01:05 I guess some feels like it there's a peninsula, regional transportation, planning organization meeting, which I have missed almost everyone, this Year because of Our Covid,
Coordination Meeting, so That's, a Conflict we Should talk, about in the Committee Assignments next Year oh.
14:01:28 yeah, mine, too, if we're gonna continue doing Covid meetings, then I should not do Prtpo I like Prtpo, I'd like to keep it, but
14:01:38 Anyway, then I have a meeting with a monthly meeting with Jefferson health care just to touch base on any number of things that We're Doing together.
14:01:47 And then I'm at Medical appointments the rest of the day.
14:01:52 Okay. We could consider changing the time of that meeting. It was really hard to find a time that works for everyone.
14:01:59 We could book and it something. Looks like it. Might work.
14:02:03 Yeah, I think It's the prosecuting attorney's office. That had they had the most constraints with court times to work, around and Phil has been pretty important for that true
I Can Dip my Finger in and see what the temperature is
14:02:21 Oh, and then looking ahead I I have a number of things the following week before Christmas, so I will be in the office some that week although my son, is that the 19 Yeah my
son, will be home from college only for a week so I might try to be be home some with him we do have a meeting.
14:02:49 To look at the bids for the planning effort for the aquatic facility, it's on the 20Â s, I will I'll be up there, transit meeting on the top coordinating Council, twenty-first
they kind of have one meeting a day the
14:03:11 Aquatic Center and Thursday, then out. For the Holiday for a couple of days, and then I'm I may be away that last week of December, I'm not sure yet
14:03:22 I'll be here until the holiday
14:03:26 Do we wanna do, the letter, now and then I can do my calendar, after so we just continue with calendaring, do it too.
14:03:37 Yeah, we have a couple of folks. Yeah, might as well, yeah, okay, so somebody share screen with a letter, or do you want me to I don't have the update, one I can do it.
14:03:53 Okay, good to do you do let's see? Share screen Hmm. Carbon.
14:04:03 2. There, okay, can you see a the top of it? At least
14:04:12 Okay. Let's see
14:04:18 Scrolling down. Okay, so let's see let's talk about the changes, we asked for and the first paragraph.
14:04:26 I talked about the Statewide Importance of the Program and its Contribution, to the Active conversation happening in Washington, about Decoupling School Construction Funding,
from Timber Revenue.
14:04:47 Move on to the second paragraph. Sure, I think, yeah.
14:04:53 Go over the changes first, and we can come back and take a look.
14:04:57 You show. Track strange, I didn't track changes
14:05:08 I don't think I changed. The second paragraph, except for I said I added that sentence I shorten the paragraph, a little bit just not in turn emotion, or content but just Tightened
it up and added the sentence, We're willing, to take a risk Alongside Dnr we
14:05:26 just need to know what risk we're at being asked to take there's still an extra, a in front of the word Much Second Sentence.
14:05:33 Okay, thank you and then in the third, paragraph.
14:05:43 Hi, just moving down a little bit. Here the rest of the letter.
14:05:48 Okay, So the Persons Stayed the same Second Sentence was there
14:06:02 I Added, the request for Stand Inventory Information
14:06:08 And I added that we would like to have the opportunity to weigh in on parcels being selected once we have more information about financial implications
14:06:23 And I left, the opt out question in there.
14:06:28 And then.
14:06:32 I had firefighting to the first sentence. Hey!
14:06:41 Higher districts.
14:06:55 And then I added here I added and Alternative Timber Management Strategies, such as Longer, Rotations, and Variable Sinning
14:07:07 And I took out the Bed about the Forest Products, industry, because it was already up here in the third paragraph and just added a we look forward to a productive collaboration.
14:07:30 Let me scroll somewhere keep with the whole letter up, you know, up to the sincerely just so
14:07:37 See, the first paragraph do you want me to make it smaller or scroll up a little bit.
14:07:45 A little bit, and stop. Oh, there, there we go! There's the whole better
14:08:04 I guess. I wonder the one thing that pops out at me is you know, can you provide this information about the standing, Timber inventory.
14:08:10 And do. We want to connect that with the Sentence a couple of sentences before about we have begun conversations with the Olympic Region.
14:08:18 Because it would be the Olympic region that is, providing that well, not knowing exactly how to do it.
14:08:24 I feel like connecting those 2 sentences would be stronger.
14:08:26 But though sentence right below the Olympic regions in is about the work with the Olympic region, so both of those sentences after that Olympic Region one are about that work
yeah.
14:08:48 I felt like. The third sentence is a little more granular and more detailed.
14:08:52 You know
14:08:56 I don't know. Maybe I just don't like the Sentence.
14:08:58 Can you provide this information? I don't know why. So
14:09:05 Why don't you like that sentence? How would you rewrite rewrite it?
14:09:09 Casual, I think. And I'm trying to think about the audience of this letter, which is policymakers not folks that are working on this
14:09:18 Is important to understand what the Dnr Standing is by text.
14:09:23 It would work.
14:09:35 What if you take can you provide this information, if I take that out, how would you change the sentence before that? To get at what We're asking it would be important
14:09:46 I have maybe would put it before the sentence. We have begun come conversations with the Olympic Region on developing a strategy cause that that and so it taken it would be
important it it will be it is important to understand what Dnr standing.
14:10:00 Tender that sentence, what if you put it before we have begun conversations sorry, I know you don't wanna do this.
14:10:08 No, it's fine. Now, that now that we're actually editing something that we have to edit. And then I can take this out
14:10:17 And I would just change would to would be to maybe, right, we want to understand what's.
14:10:27 The I don't know we want it would be is just past passive, phrasing.
14:10:32 We can. So it is important to understand, or we. The Jefferson County wants to understand
14:10:49 Seeks, to understand
14:11:02 But
14:11:04 Okay.
14:11:08 It feels a little.
14:11:12 By Taxing Districts Available for Harvest. I mean it.
14:11:15 We're trying to make this a broader statement, while asking for something very specific.
14:11:21 No
14:11:24 We seek to understand something very specific. I mean, we need it's
14:11:32 Feel, like we to make a proper analysis. We need
14:11:40 More information, about.
14:11:45 It's not seeking that I don't feel like it's secret to understand.
14:11:48 It's like no, it's true
14:11:54 I I think it feeds into working with the Olympic Region closer, so
14:12:10 Jefferson Carriers.
14:12:13 You're drinking I I'm sorry. Having information having soup, having formation.
14:12:28 About
14:12:33 Standing Is Bye Taxing, District
14:12:38 Sustainable Harvest plans. It's really that's a detail in the sustainable
14:12:52 And plans for harvest.
14:13:02 Would.
14:13:11 The important information to
14:13:18 Assess, the lay of the Land I mean start with information
14:13:26 Having information. About the understand you know standing timber, inventory by taxing district and plans for harvest would be important
14:13:34 For what for our analysis. Or, yeah, okay.
14:13:44 And Collaboration.
14:13:49 We hope you can provide that. I think the next sentence start, kind of implies that
14:13:59 Okay. I'm fine. That sounds that's better than it was.
14:14:04 Seeking 100, yeah.
14:14:09 Plans for Harvests. Hello
14:14:15 Harvest, Plans.
14:14:19 I always like the less words virus plans
14:14:25 Yeah
14:14:27 Okay, how's that?
14:14:38 Someone
14:14:51 I think we're fine. We're just word smithing
14:15:22 If you had a chance to look at this
14:15:31 Thanks for appropriate requested at us
14:15:37 And I feel like we've been enough edits. That we should have a public comment after work done editing
14:15:51 Yeah, just the hello
14:15:59 I I guess one thing that I feel is opens us up, for I mean Dnr has been very clear they don't have the information that we're saying for us is on tenable to begin with out.
14:16:12 So I guess it's just
14:16:21 On deaf ears. If they were like, yeah, we don't know yet
14:16:24 They can say we don't know. Yet. No, let me.
14:16:27 I I haven't heard that. Yes, that's a bigly.
14:16:33 Well, another cause they're in the lawsuit, they right, it's hard for them to say, a lot, right?
14:16:39 Okay, I think, this is mostly supporting the spirit. And antenna department. Project.
14:16:45 And and a robust collaboration in the future, which I think is what up from everything I've heard is where we're at?
14:16:53 What we want to do. Yeah, yeah, but it's I'm, I'm cool
14:17:00 You're chill, yeah. Okay, sounds like, we're chill with a letter.
14:17:05 So far, and and we will have another public comments, period on this.
14:17:12 I guess I could stop I guess I'll leave the screen share.
14:17:15 The way are you viking with it also and we will open this for public comments.
14:17:20 So if you would like to comment on the revised letter. That I am sharing here on the screen. You can do so by using the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen and
we'll bring you over for comment so I see one hand up
14:17:54 I I'll move that we submit this letter as amended today.
14:17:59 Goodina, have a second all in favor oh, now we're taking public comment right.
14:18:06 I always want to get right down to business so first public comment here, from Patricia, Patricia, you have 3Â min for comments
14:18:14 Thank you. So much commissioners for including the request for Standard inventory.
14:18:20 I think it will be very helpful the that One Minor Grammar thing, although Carolyn or somebody, probably would have caught this last sentence in the third Paragraph, also a
question, We've been receiving well, Counties Be Able to Opt out of the Program, if actual
14:18:38 Revenue projection does not meet or revenue projections. Do not meet one, or the 2, but I can't tell you how greatful I am. Thank you so much
14:18:46 Okay. I changed. It. Okay. Got it thanks. great. Thank you.
14:18:53 Anybody else out there in Zoom land? Who would like to make a comment on the proposed letter that we're sending.
14:19:02 We have, a motion. We have not voted yet to send to Dnr, please use the raise hand, button at the bottom of your Zoom screen, and We'll bring you over for a comment anybody
with us.
14:19:13 This afternoon would like to comment on this letter, revised letter regarding the Carbon Project for Dnr
14:19:22 Not seeing any other hands! Go up, hey? So I will close public comment on this letter, and call for a vote.
14:19:34 Or do we want to we've already responded to Patricia's comments.
14:19:39 So all in favor of sending this letter to Dnr.
14:19:43 Aye. Okay, so did you catch that edit. You know that
14:19:51 Yeah, okay. That was the last thing. That I had parked for the afternoon.
14:19:59 Anybody else have anything they would like to add. Oh, I have to Calendar act because I do have.
14:20:05 Yeah, okay, let me do this, I have to stop screen sharing and have to send that to radio
14:20:11 I will be back with you in A. Second no, that's file
14:20:23 We're printing.
14:20:25 So.
14:20:29 I feel like I should have checked with y'all before I rose my hand to be on the Board of Natural Resources.
14:20:36 Because there's a potential conflict with our first meeting of 2023.
14:20:42 Anyway, so looking, ahead, this week, I have 3 meetings with constituents tomorrow.
14:20:49 On a myriad issues, and I will also plan on attending the Human Super Services Collaborators, Meeting on Wednesday, I Will be Potentially Supporting my Candidacy for the Board
of Natural Resources Seat for County Legislative Bodies, and and then I Will be Meeting with Sheriff Noel in the
14:21:16 Afternoon on a list of issues I've been collecting trying to have lunch with him for a while, but finally ha gonna sit down and I enjoy working with him.
14:21:26 So I look forward to that conversation, in the evening. I have a Olympic Discovery trail Board Meeting and then Thursday Morning I have a Community Foundation Board Meeting
a Trust Land Transfer Legislative Meeting Agenda, Prep with Mark Board of Health Meeting in the Afternoon on Friday.
14:21:50 I'm going on a walk with the treasure and the clerk Cause planned in in honor of Ruth, but I'm Glad She's gonna stick around a While, maybe I'll have more Walks with her Let's
see next Week I just wanted to let you all
14:22:08 Know that I will be out
14:22:11 Oh, the Fall next week, and after work on the Nineteenth.
14:22:16 I hope you can all come to my house, for our Theoc teams were a Tamali festival, and
14:22:27 Then a transit authority Board meeting on Tuesday and then Agenda Prep.
14:22:33 And then I am going to be headed to Victoria. Vc.
14:22:37 For 5 days, starting on the 20Â s, and I'll be back on the 20 seventh see in Canada, if they'll let me back in the country, because you know, both be out of the country at the
same time we are okay, well.
14:22:53 Only for a couple of days I'll move down the port.
14:22:56 Okay. Okay. But I have no meetings. I bet, there will be like, a bad storm.
14:23:02 Yeah, always, is I'm I'm, accessible. I'm Accessible by phone, I have Wi-fi and then the following week I don't have anything on the calendar other than Ruth Gordon's Retirement,
party, on the Thirtieth and then so then
14:23:25 My swearing in of your seatmate. Yeah. So here's my conundrum on the third
14:23:32 The third Tuesday, the third of January.
14:23:36 When we would be doing? We reorganize it.
14:23:41 Committee, you know, committee, assignments and all that stuff, potentially that would be my if I was by some miracle made it through this election process, and was then pointed
the board of natural Resources Member for Counties that's.
14:23:56 The first meeting all day, and they said that it has like before you, even submit your materials, make sure you're available on the third.
14:24:04 And so when I looked first, I'm like, Oh, yeah, third, it's Tuesday.
14:24:07 I'll be available and then it was wham, bam, thank you ma'am, and you won't know until after the 20 eighth so there's not a lot of Lead Time to switch it.
14:24:18 So should I withdraw my my application, now, and we It's why why there are 3 of us, one of us is disposable
14:24:34 You don't have to do it on the third, so we can do.
14:24:36 Most of that work, then just approving what what happens?
14:24:46 Approach to the possibility that that would be I don't. Think you're a long shot candidate.
14:24:53 I'm gonna split, the vote for the other 2.
14:24:53 And we're gonna all send in passion, cases that that we need someone with a balance perspective.
14:25:00 Okay, so that was my canon, my canon potential conundrum.
14:25:05 Now, so we'll we'll see we'll see how this all goes
14:25:12 It's only the timber counties to get to vote for that right.
14:25:15 Yeah, there's 21 counties 21,
14:25:20 Okay, well, that's my calendaring any any conflicts on your calendar, mark or anything you want to share about the next are you going on a tropical vacation, actually had no
actually I'm going to be in Town the entire Holiday season, so you can hold down the port and my in laws, are in their eighties, and since my wife.
14:25:45 Came down with Covid. They're like you're not coming to visit, so we'll be here and so I don't have a lot of and see meetings, or anything but I do have more, administrative,
work, to do i've got to reissue the Rfp
14:26:02 For Community, While Fire Protection Plans as we got 0 applicants, 0 very done are selected consultant for strategic planning I need to execute a contract.
14:26:13 With them. I imagine we'll have that on the Board's Agenda for January, third,
14:26:20 I have to rework the 5 way agreement with Edc and the 4 Governments at the Request of Cindy Brooks, and Bauermeister, we have an issue with Jefferson, Associated Council, what
I Believe will be Chronically Low case Counts and We've
14:26:37 Contracted for 1,125, cases a year, and we gave them sort of a past during Covid, the Heavy Duty Covid Period, but Don't believe we can do that again, so it's, kind of a post
Blake, and and still 1333 There's, just less, Prosecutions
14:26:56 for low level, drug offense. Yes, exactly. Right. You know. Fewer cases where we prosecute drug offenders and and good problem to have.
14:27:06 Yeah, in our jail population, is manageable.
14:27:11 And so there are a lot of benefits to that, but the contract with Jac as provisions in it that if the case counts below, certain number, then We've got to cut it for the next
year, and it it may be that we just have to Renegotiate, the entire contract based on the New
14:27:30 Reality, and then I have other other things in the works that I have to get done for the Board to consider and hopefully approve
14:27:39 Well, I'm glad that Ruth can stick around and help.
14:27:43 Yes, she said that I said when she came up to me with her question about the fte thing.
14:27:49 I was like was there enough enough work to do for an fte, and she said, there's enough work for 3 fts.
14:27:57 And I said, is there money for 3 fts, and she's said, Hmm, there's money for more than one fte for half a year.
14:28:03 So I don't know if we need to think about getting her an assistant, or what but sounds like there's a backlog that's also just if you don't expend those ones I think I, think
we are being reactive, initially and now we're being proactive.
14:28:18 Yeah, and just to clarify commissioners. When I said, 0, point, 5 Fte, it was point-five for the year, it's actually a full Fte for 6 Months which is the same as point 5 for
the year and it just Confused, Ruth and she came up to me
14:28:37 Well let's find out in mark and mark.
14:28:37 I mean it makes perfect sense of mark explained that, but we were like confused.
14:28:39 LED's budget. Speak so I clarify put it in plain English, and right and when Ruth begins at work, I'm Sure She's going to evaluate the the Progress She's Making and whether
or not Bringing, on some Additional Help, would Make Sense, and then I Think, We'll
14:28:57 we'll get an idea when the legislature is in session, whether additional monies may be forthcoming
14:29:06 Cool.
14:29:12 Well, oh, I had one.
14:29:18 Oh, everyone hide Sarah's on our way,
14:29:28 Hi, Sarah, did you have something to add to our agenda. Well, I didn't know if you were discussing
14:29:44 Oh, no, I think we figured out, we just needed clarification and Mark provided perfect explanation the Hourly Pay, and all that but yeah, there was a question.
14:29:56 About why you I use the phrase Fte, and Ruth was she.
14:30:01 Thought oh, I thought I I was gonna be full time you are, but only for some months.
14:30:07 So for 23, that's point 5 Fte yeah. That was it.
14:30:13 Thank you. Thank you, Bill. We can talk about the communication specialist, and where we are on that if you feel like it come to the table, and we also have interviews scheduled
for the database, position cool coming up good afternoon commissioners.
14:30:36 Hi, thank you for you all, too.
14:30:39 We're masking up so good on you Dr. Barry's recommendation modeling. Yes.
14:30:45 Well, I like that red one so we're regarding the communication Specialist.
14:30:52 We have received 7 applications. Currently the hiring team is reviewing those applications and scoring them, and then we'll meet up as a group to determine which of those we'd
like to interview So I'm waiting Right now on getting a little more information back from our Hiring team
14:31:11 Included, right No, no worries. They're busy. So and then people are applying for the Database Specialist job, too.
14:31:20 Yeah, there's Apparently, we've gotten some really great applications for the database, specialists, and interviews are Scheduled for Friday, afternoon wow.
14:31:30 Great, 2 2. Big ones, awesome. Yeah, thank, you, okay, you're welcome.
14:31:36 Alright.
14:31:41 Anything else for the Good of the Order, we have the luxury of Minutes briefly, I got A request from the Olympic Housing Trust is they apply for Commerce Funding for the Dundee
Hill Project They've, been Working on that I think most of Us are pretty aware of
14:32:01 It they're looking for a letter of good standing from a local public funder.
14:32:05 But I said, what I don't think we've ever funded you so how could we establish that. And I guess I don't really know the legal.
14:32:12 Legal term. Too well, good standing. But who's asking the question again?
14:32:19 Olympic Housing, Trust, which is rebranded, the Housing Trust, That's been Rebranded from Homework you have a communication on that I do I can forward it with Me Yep yeah.
14:32:31 I think we may have done that once before. Okay, but it would help to see the communication. I will shoot it to you, and we can yeah, take it.
14:32:39 There, okay, thank you do. You have something. Chris.
14:32:43 Oh, no. I. Think, sir, Reported, that, we have some candidates and we're interviewing on Friday.
14:32:50 Great I'm not familiar with that position.
14:32:56 Well, the Board, I might have been when I was away some time ago.
14:33:03 The Board Approved Establishing that position in a meeting such as this and so we have done that and public Health has really been vibrating on this because of enter Gov, and
we have other Database, needs we did have someone Helping with Tie mark and that Person retired
14:33:23 and they agreed to stay on via contract to help us with the Implementation but Post Implementation Work.
14:33:30 We have a lot of needs and with Munis and other databases, that the the county owns, and so public Health is funding half of the position with Foundational Public Health Money
and the General Fund, is Funding the other half and then Depending on Usage we may put that in the Cost
14:33:49 Allocation, plan for the general fund, half in subsequent years.
14:33:54 But we want to see who asks for help, and to come up with a distribution scheme for the Costs of the general Fund, portion of that position, but a person like this with the
appropriate skills is a Force Multiplier because There's data and in these Databases that people
14:34:14 Don't know how to draw out and organize and
14:34:18 So anyway, We're Looking Forward to the Work. This Person will do
14:34:24 And I know that I'm thinking, Mingo and others in public health or can't wait till Friday where will they sit in the Org Chart, this database manager under Chris so as though
public, Health Funds it They'll make Requests into the it Department essentially much like
14:34:41 Kristin is part of Funded by public works and she sits next to Sarah and my my suite.
14:34:49 This person will sit back here. They've made space.
14:34:53 They had an area where they with a simple computers and do work and whatnot may sort of tidy that up
14:35:00 So they yeah, we're ready for this person, eager physical space.
14:35:07 And Equipment, Right so it'd be Various Types of Databases, Depending on the Department's, need Crystal Reports, Sequel, Scripts, you Name, it All Kind of Workflow And Laserfish
just all Kinds of Amount of Work To be Done, yeah, yeah, Great Thank you.
14:35:31 Okay.
14:35:38 Okay, anything else, for the good of the order, let's go to the order, call it works out for us, I'm all good, hmm,
14:35:50 Okay. Well, if There's nothing else. I'll Adjourn this December Twelfth, 2022 Meeting of the Jefferson, County Board of Commission Let's, See Around, the Courthouse, and See,
You next week, for the last Meeting, of the Year last Meeting, in the year