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HomeMy WebLinkAboutLog205 r. Sou~ Bay Survey of the Trend. e Page 1 of I South Bay Survey of the Trendwest IrrQPosal. The Board members of the South Bay Community Association are interested in knowing whether our community, as a whole, is "in favor of' or "opposed" to having Trendwest build a timeshare resort in Port Ludlow. Your responses will guide the SBCA Board in their decision making in upcoming public hearings. Background: Land Use in Port Ludlow Originally, Ludlow Cove II (informally known as the log dump) was zoned for 64 single family residential lots. In 2002, a conditional use permit was issued which also allowed multi-family residential units. In 2004, Trendwest applied to Jefferson County to locate 120 time-share units on the property. After a public hearing in 2005, the Jefferson County Hearing Examiner ruled in favor of allowing the Trendwest development. This ruling was appealed and an Appellant Hearing Examiner found that the Trendwest Resort was not allowed under existing zoning regulations. That decision is being appealed to Superior Court. Trendwest and PLA are now -.1 applying to the County Commissioners for a change to the development agreement which would allow them to build a time-share facility on the log dump. If the Commissioners agree to consider changes, there will be a public hearing. The SBCA Board would like to be able to testify at the hearing and accurately represent how the residents feel about adding time- share units to the housing mix in Port Ludlow. For more information about the PLNTrendwest application, ~li~kJwx~. PLA has provided a document outlining the benefits of the PLA/Trendwest application. To view, c1ickhere. To provide your comments to the SBCA Board of Directors, cli~k_h~r~. ~{)5 \ ~ lLl oCI- http://www.plvc.orglSBCA_Trendwest_info.htm 11/2/2006 r Sout~ Bay Community Associln :: View topic - Trendwest e Page I of7 , ' phQb'..~.. - f"- ~ creating communities Trendwest Goto page 1, 2 ."~l<.t South Bay Community Association Welcome to the SBCA Forum on Trendwest. 11.1 FAQ IQ Search I]!I Memberlist ij;1 Usergroups !ZJ Register I!I Profile IQI Log in to check your private messages 121 Log in (~Y'lew10pi0 (~postTe'PI~) South Bay Community Association Forum Index -> SBCA Forum on Trendwest Author Moderator Guest Back to top LPV4 resident Guest l-) View previous topic :: View next topic Message o Posted: Mon Aug 21, 20066:25 pm Post subject: Trendwest I~ quote) To post a comment on Trendwest, click on "Post Reply" button and add a username so you can find your contribution to the forum, Please remember to use common sense and restrain from using vulgarity and personal attacks, The moderator will delete vulgarity and personal attacks. Thank you for your participation in this community forum. The SBCA Board of Directors, Be sure to hit "Submit" at the bottom of the screen to post your message on the forum. [) Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject: Trendwest Thoughts r<m q.Llot.e ) Unfortunately, we'll be abroad 'til the first week in October, but want to give you our two bits.., We feel that SBCA should voice the sentiments of the Association, and we are hopeful that the consensus is that the Board of County Commissioners prohibit the Trendwest development as it is: 1, Contrary to the overall master plan 2, UNUKEl Y to be successful and would, therefore, turn into a blight at the heart of our community 3, Designed to attract transients to our community - people who do NOT have the pride of ownership in this community 4. HIGHLY UNUKElY to result in additional restaurants and/or a larger market, inasmuch as the numbers simply aren't there, Important, too, we strongly feel that PLA should be prohibited from developing over the water anywhere in Port Ludlow, Michael & Teresa Forrest 36 Driftwood Court lPV 4 LOG ITEM 'toe;; # Page of "2..- http://hmleague.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 11/2/2006 sou~ Bay Community AssoCiln :: View topic - Trendwest e Page 2 of7 Back to top Guest n Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: ('G ql.lote J l-) It really seems ridiculous to go ahead with the development when there Is an appeal to the hearing examiner's judgement before the supreme court. If the appeal does not go in favor of the PLA, and construction has already begun, the costs to Jefferson County and the PLA could be substantial, Remember the Jefferson County costs are really "our" costs, Back to top blllbarb61@msn.com Guest n Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:06 am Post SUbject: (G quote' J l-) We are homeowners In Olympic Terrace I and are opposed to the Trendwest Development"thankyou Back to top 01-1 Guest n Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:00 am Post subject: Loss of control over the land (-<m quote) l+J While I am not opposed to having a Trendwest development, I am opposed to losing control over the land. We need to have covenants that run with the land that limit the use of the land and allow us some Input on the upkeep of the site by Trendwest, I am most concerned about what happens in the future when Trendwest may want to sell the facility and land, As an example, the county Is under constant pressure to produce low income housing. A cheap solution for the county would be to buy the site and convert It, Far fetched, maybe, but if I can think of it so can the county, My second concern is on the upkeep of the site, Should this turn out to be a less than stellar investment, Trendwest may tend to skimp on the maintenance of the site and facilities. We have been told that they have strict covenants governing their guest, but do they have covenants over the upkeep of the faCility or site. Without our covenants running with the land we cannot force them to maintain the site at our expected Jevel for this community, I believe the Board should support the Trendwest development if our covenants can be attached and run with the land. If attaching our covenants is not feasible than I would oppose the development. Back to top jm Guest n Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:43 pm Post SUbject: Trendwest development ,'"<m quote ) At this point, I'd support Trendwest because: l+i 1. Additional revenue for PLA to construct the club house at the golf course. 2, Added PQSSibility of a grocery store at the village, However, the downside of a very nice situation is: LOG ITEM 2.tl '3 1. Less likely to be able to walk on the course at any time, # Page http://hmleague.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4&postdays=O&postorder=asc&start=0 11/2/2006 ,. I South Bay Community Assoc.n :: View topic - Trendwest Page 3 of7 e 2, Less likely to need reservations at a restaurant, 3, Less traffic around the area. So, on a scale of 1 as "no" and 10 as "yes," I'd be about a 7,5, Back to top Bruce Schmitz Guest D Posted: Frl AUIl 25, 20064:02 am Post subject: Trendwest rem quote] I am very disappointed in the SBCA Board that you have decided to put on the web site a letter from PLA discussing what they believe are the positive impacts of allowing the Trendwest development without a like response on the negatives of the development. If you want feedback from the South Bay community you owe it to the community to present all data relative to the proposed development, l--) The major issue is not whether Trendwest is a positive development for Port Ludlow but whether PLA and Jefferson County can use the Development Agreement to affect a zoning change in Port Ludlow to allow Trendwest. Such a change would put the Development Agreement In conflict with the Jefferson County Comprehensive Plan and the MPR Code for Port Ludlow. There are serious issues on the legality of this proposed change and the SBCA simply does not have the legal knowledge to make any rational decisions on this issue, I strongly urge the SBCA Board not to try to take a stand on this issue, Let the application go through the County process and be decided by the Jefferson County Hearing Examiner and the BOCC. There is currently an Appellant Hearing Examiner decision that Trendwest is a transient facility and not allowed under the current MPR Code, While that decision Is being appealled in Superior Court it is currently the law, Lets look for a while at the Trendwest facility as proposed by PLA and Trendwest, PLA says that it will add $16,0000,000 to the tax rolls of Jefferson County and add to the sales tax base during construction. That statement, while true, does not consider what would happen if Trendwest is not constructed, PLA has stated in public that if the Trendwest facility is not approved that they will build SO single family homes on the property. Those homes will most likely sell for in excess of $600,000 each, That will provide a tax base almose DOUBLE that of the Trendwest facility, Do you not think that Jefferson County would be better served by residential homes than by a Trendwest facility, Trendwest will bring an additional 400 persons to Port Ludlow each and every day of the year over that of single family residences, Those Individuals will use our amenities and leave. They have no ownership in our facilities and no incentive to keep them in a usable condition as the members of the community have. Trendwest will not agree to have CC&R's that will run with the land as is required in every other development in Port Ludlow, They will not agree to be governed as other developments in Port Ludlow are governed. The Port Ludlow community will have no control over how Trendwest uses the land, If for some reason Trendwest is not successful and is sold there will be no restrictions on land use of this property, PLA states that they will use the money from the sale of the property to build a neJ,..Q~J;rJ=M # z,y;- Page ~ of http://hmleague.org/phpBB2/viewtopic. php?t=4&postdays=O&postorder=asc&start=O 11/2/2006 sou~ Bay Community Associln :: View topic - Trendwest e Page 4 of7 For some time I have been concerned about the lack of concern for dress code observance by visitors at the golf course, Because we live on the golf course we are constantly reminded of how people who dress like slobs tend to act like slobs and mistreat the facility which doesn't appear concerned. Would a transient population add to this disrespect for our home by throwing trash, driving carts on the greens and generally treating the golf course like a theme park? - and what if LOG ITE 0# w- l..o?" ~ http://hmleague.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4&postdays=0&postorder=asc&s~~ge ~ 1/2. clubhouse. PLA has promised Port Ludlow residences a new golf clubhouse for over 4 years long before Trendwest was ever a consideration. Why do you think they will keep that promise now? Do you really believe that PLA and their parent HCV will really just give $3,600,000 to construct a new golf clubhouse without some strings attached, They are in the business to make money and this investment will require a return. How will they get that return if they really do build a new clubhouse, The only way to get it is to raise the green fees or the membership fees and that increase will be very significant, You all know what happened when they tried to do that before, Trendwest will not make the golf course profitable, It will only provide, at maximum, another 50 rounds of golf per day. Statements have been made that the course needs a tripling of the membership to be viable, Further, Trendwest guests will only pay green fees and no membership fees that support infrastructure and maintenance, The above are only a few of the reasons why I oppose the modification of the Development Agreement to allow Trendwest and why Trendwest is not a wise development for Port Ludlow, I urge the SBCA to not support the Development Agreement modification or the Trendwest facility. Back to top Jim Boyer I) Posted: FrI Aug 25, 2006 2:52 pm post subjea: (G qu.ote J Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 2 Props to the creators of this site I forum, (I wonder if our comments be heard,) While I am not opposed to the development in concept I echo two valid concerns raised by OT-1 and Bruce Schmitz, From OT.1 - "control over the land. n l-t-1 How is the community guaranteed of continued best management practices within the development that compliment our distinctive village and lifestyle? If the development begins to short cut after approval or the site is poorly maintained what controls are in place for correction? Once the permits are granted for a short term occupancy enterprise what would happen if TrendWest isn't profitable and puts the plate for sale? From Bruce Schmitz - "PLA has promised Port Ludlow residences a new golf clubhouse for over 4 years long before Trendwest was ever a consideration. n I hear a lot about unfulfilled promises and have noticed that the renderings showing the current improvements on Oak Bay road in the village center showed streetlights which don't seem to be part of the finished project. The first thought I have is of people crossing the road with limited visibility due to darkness, fog or shrubs and the associated danger. The second is implied but not guaranteed promises or conditions which cannot be legally resolved In the future. South Bay Community Associtfn :: View topic - Trendwest e Page 5 of7 Guest D Posted: Frt Aug 25, 2006 11: 20 pm Post subject: support Trendwest I~ quote ) they do? As I said, I am not opposed to the concept of the development but I am wary of of incomplete and non-binding contractual agreements for a high profile business within our community over which we have no say once it is permitted, Is the fact that we are a locally regulated community and may become vulnerable to outside influences a concern? The more this exposes us to politici;ll governance at the county level, the more likely civil and social deterioration becomes poSsible as can be seen in neighboring communities. Bury me with a golf glove in my pOCket - just in case, Back to top c~ profile] rt&pm) (+J Port Ludlow is not only a wonderful residential community: it is a resort. And unfortunately, it is somewhat lacking in vacation accomodations, I feel that Trendwest would benefit the community that lives here and provide incentive to improve local business, Active retirement communities such as Port Ludlow often draw future residents through their resort accomodations, That is exactly how we got here. I strongly support backing Trendwest, Eight year resident[/quoteH/code) Back to top e.b.nugent@latt.net Guest C Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: Trendwest r<m quote J \+J I strongly support the Trendwest development project in Port Ludlow. I own two homes in the community, so my financial well-being is very mUCh tied to the economic health of Port Ludlow, and I believe Trendwest will have a pOsitive influence on that economic health. Jerry Conover Guest C Posted: Sat Aug 26, 200611:04 pm Post subject: Support Trendwest rtm quote ] Back to top l-t} The opponents of Trendwest are more known as opponents of PLA and are willing to shoot down the quality of life and the positive effect Trendwest is to have in our community, Having been here in the 1930s, seeing the mill operational, seeing many oof the original homes transported to Port Gamble, we can experience the same "death on the vine" . Notice the arrival of a real Dental facility several years ago, appreciate the development of not one but two banking facilities. A trendwest facility will bring even greater initiatives to Port Ludlow, You will see a larger more complete Village store, Though the population Increase will be small, you can bet a Clinic will soon provide Intermediate, provisional medical services, We should welcome the new neighbor just as you were welcomed, I have great umbrage noticing the opponents of trendwest dialogue especially in view of their time of residency in Port Ludlow. What two years, three years maybe four years. # Page of Back to top GUEST Guest C Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: http://hmleague.orglphpBB2/viewtopic.php?t--4&postdays=0&postorder=asc&Start=O 11/2/2006 South Bay Community ASSOCi. :: View topic - Trendwest Page 6of7 e ( +) I think Trendwest will help Port Ludlow survive and maintain our home values when and if PLA departs, PLA still has to build about 180 to 200 homes, That should take about five or more years, Then they have to decide what to do with their other business, These other business consist of Olympic Water and Sewer (a money maker) and the resort (only the marina supposedly makes any profit, Do they sell or stay? Who knows, With Trendwest, their guests will frequent our local restaurants, local businesses, perhaps a new grocery store and our golf course, These new visitors will bring in revenue to our community. The Developer Can sell or stay and most importantly, we can maintain our quality of life, SUPPORT TRENDWEST! Back to top Jim Boyer ~ qL.tote ) I) POsted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11: 11 pm Post SUbject: Joined: 25 Aug 2006 POsts: 2 Pursuant to my earlier post, I was told that the Trend West development will be governed by existing community covenants, -That's a good thing, ~~) What a bonus it would be if the development ended up creating some sort of walk on ferry service from our dock to Seattle, Bury me with a golf glove in my pOCket - just in case, Back to top r-:a profile) [t&p:m-) RlU) Grimm Guest ~ qu.ote ) Cl Posted: Moo Aug 28, 2006 5:30 pm Post SUbject: Trendwest The Trendwest project has a lot of different elements to it that would affect our town, But, It appears to us that the pluses far outweigh the negatives that "could" happen. l-H 1. It would be imperative to insist that PLA put their golf course promise in writing because the track record by developers leaves a lot to be desired, 2, Added tax revenue from the development will give the community a little more clout in requesting services for our area, It would be nice to have a Deputy Sheriff located in town who could provide immediate response, 3, Owners of timeshares are high end vacationers. They have Invested thousands of dollars upfront to have the "opportunity" to vacation in our bit of paradise. These "transients" also pay taxes on their individual units each year and they are the ones to pi!ly a yearly maintenance fee to Trendwest to guarantee that their resort is maintained to original standards. These "vacationers" are the ones we want to have as visitors, Additionally, their visits give our area another chance at exposure and this should help protect our property values. The timeshare owners have a vested Interest in protecting their investment too. 4, We need more and varied restaurants of high quality - more diners will create the opportunity for new choices to us too. 5, It would be nice to have an added population base to justify a "real" village grocery. We could have a grocery that would be a destination store for many surrounding miles t't.08dlif'eMe the need for travel to faraway quality stores, # Page ?.-cI? 7 of http://hmleague.orglphpBB2/viewtopic. php?t=4&postdays=O&postorder=asc&start=0 11/2/2006 SO~th Bay Community Associln :: View topic - Trendwest e Page 70f7 If we want to be a "resort" we're going to have to behave like a resort![/Iist] [Iist= ][/Iist] Back to top judythomas2 Guest o Posted: Tue Aug 29, 20063:37 am Post SUbject: Trendwest ("G quote] I oppose the development of the Trendwest prOject for the following reasons: "'--l 1. It is contrary to existing land use regulations. 2. The anticipated positive impacts are unlikely to occur, For instance, the development of a grocery store. The Trendwest project numbers will still not make such a project viable. 3, Trendwest will bring transients into a settled residential community, increaSing traffic and posSibly adding less than desirable persons to the community. Motorcycles, jet skis, boats on trailers, RV's, all come with Trendwest development, 4, I have had experience with a Trendwest project at Lake Coeur d'Alene in Idaho, As the owner of a condo there I saw noise and congestion increase, vandalism and excessive wear and tear occur and eventually sold my unit. Because of their numbers, individual owners gradually lost their voice in the community association. S, The Trendwest project north of here (Discovery Bay?) is ugly and certainly not an asset to the area. 6, The Trendwest development in Seaside, Oregon is completely out of scale for the area and an ugly blight on the landscape, The few Trendwest developments I have seen have certainly not been an asset to the landscape. S, Back to top Display posts from previOUS: All Posts Oldest First ~ All times are GMT Goto page 1, ~ lII_e](1: (LJ newtopiC') i@ postTtplY'1 South Bay Community Association Forum Index -> SBCA Forum on '--. . . # ',-_. . . j Trendwest Page 1 of 2 Jump to: SBCA Forum on Trendwest ~ You can post new topi~ In this forum YOU can reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in thiS forum You can~t delete your posts In this forum You tannot vote in polls in this forum F\:MIereJj by P'1PBB@ 2001, 2005 P'1PBB Gut4l # Page lOG ITEM zCJE;' ~ of http://hmleague,org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 1112/2006 So~th Bay Community Associln :: View topic - Trendwest e Page 1 of6 South Bay Community Association Welcome to the SBCA Forum on Trendwest, nhnb~ r::a!jn~~~munitf:!tV.. I!i FAQ I~ Search @ Memberlist I~I Usergroups !Zl Register I!\ Profile iQI Log in to check your private messages 121 Log in " Trendwest Goto pagePr.ellious :I., 2 (?J ntwtQpi~) C4J postrepl~) South Bay Community Association Forum Index -> SBCA Forum on Trendwest View previous topic :: View next topic Author Message D Posted: Tue Aug 29, 20066:41 pm Post subject: Support in Concept (G qu.otit J Dave P Guest \+) I generally support the notion of having Trendwest in Port Ludlow, but only if Trendwest will agree to having their CC&R's run with the land, Back to top Gary Moore Guest Cl Posted: rue Aug 29, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject: Trendwest l~ qu.ote J (j-) The very difference of the Trendwest project from the rest of Port Ludlow accommodations has some people forming a negative opinion, However, differences and change can often be good for us all and I believe there are two significant economic benefits for the Pl residents and Jefferson county coming from the Trendwest project, First, the project will bring new and rather up scale visitors to Pl as the Trendwest members ciearly have excess disposable income available to join Trendwest, These visitors are then exposed to greater Pl, its attractions and its real estate as a possible place to retire to, These visits will increase the market exposure and hopefully the prices of all of our real estate when it comes time for us to sell our properties, Second, Jefferson county will gain increased property and sales taxes and permit fees from the project. The county will also experience an increase in general consumer consumption from the increased employment of construction workers, Change is often difficult to embrace but I believe the Trendwest change wfil uitimately benefit us all, Let us not become driven by the NIMBY philOSOphy (Not In My Back Yard) just because "we have ours" it does not follow that otl1ers should be denied, Gary Moore Back to top jerry yonke Guest Cl Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:44 am Post subject: trendwe$t ,:em quo tit J t-) I just read PLA,s amendment to the development agreement It does a poor job of Illustrating the benefits to the county and ourselves. How does a project costing $23.6 million (trendwest & clubhouse)compare to 120 res. units worth $50 million? Its not even close. LOG ITE It>S' '1 So if the economics don,t justify this change what does? # Page http://hmleague.org/phpBB2/viewtopic. php?t==4&postdays:::::0&postorder=asc&start= 15&si... of 11/2/2006 SOU~h Bay Community Associ*n :: View topic - Trendwest e Page 2 of6 Are time share people better than residential people?? WlIl time share people play more golf? Perhaps,since they don,t have a lawn to mow. But will they be paying monthly dues? (new residences get memberships) How does this shake out? So if the economics (to the county &. us) favor building homes, getting that multiplier affect of 5-7 times,etc, etc,.....what is really in it for us,....,.. A NEW CLUBHOUSE!! Why would RANDY Verrue commit to uSing the entire proceeds of $3.6 million to building a new clubhouse? past promises? To cut 3 1/2 years off the bulldout? To simply buy our support? 00 we know? can we ask? There is an implied threat on page 4 that in effect says if we do not get more play to cover costs (by approving trendwest) they will need to increase costs to members.. Whoa ! Who said they were losing money? Isn't PLA one company with a bunch of profit centers? Shouldn't their total results be considered ?Does anyone know how costs are allocated between profit centers? Is timber sales a separate profit center??? If a profit center is losing money how much of that is attributable to poor management? should we pay for that? The data that is out there does not support supporting PLA, If however ,we do not have another means of getting a new clubhouse i,e. class action suit, future developments, etc. you should simply go for it and trade your support in exchange for a firm commitment and other concessions, InnerHarborRes Guest () Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:07 am Post subject: Trendwest (-em q lAote: J Back to top We have lived in Inner Harbor for over 15 years, We look across the water and see the old log dump area, Would we like to see Trendwest or PLA develope there? (+) We are members of Trendwests' Worldmark, The facilities that we have visited (some 15-20 of them) have been impeccably maintained and have very professional, friendly staff, They have appeared to be good neighbors in their community, Some facilities, such as Discovery Bay, were puchased from other developers and are being upgraded to better blend with the environment. Their house rules, in general, are designed to minimize impact on neighboring properties, We have seen and appreciate many Trendwest developments. We have no problem supporting their developing here, Back to top Tom. Mary Ann Calaha Guest () Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2: 58 am Post subject: Trendwest Support ~ qlAotlf ) l+) We have been members of Trendwest for over 7 years and have used their facilities numerous times, Trendwest is well capitalized and do an excellant job running their properties. The Trendwest project would enhance the Port Ludlow community by providing additional resources that would allow other projects in Port Ludlow to move forward, i,e, the golf course club house and inQSa IT M # '?- ot;' Page LD of http://hmleague.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start= 15&si... 11/2/2006 South Bay Community ASSOCi*n :: View topic - Trendwest e Page 3 of6 grocery store at the Village Center & the expansion of the marina, We are 100% in favor of having the Trendwest project go forward and hopefully the SBCA Board will support this fine project. Tom & Mary Ann Callahan Back to top Kevin Ryan Guest D Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:50 pm Post Subject: Trendwest r:m quote ) Kevin Ryan I favor the TrendWest development in Port Ludlow for the following reasons: (+J a) Jefferson County suffers from a lack of employment opportunities. All communities in the county should promote favorable business which will provide employment, A time-share development is perfectly compatible with our character as a resort community. b) I have owned, in the past, five time-share properties, Personally, we have participated in governance of these properties in order to maintain their high quality for our use, rent-ability and sale-ability (To invent a few words), The charge that "transient" occupants of the time-share will have no interest or care for our community is false, c) We need paying customers for Our existing businesses including the golf course, restaurants, market, Friday market, etc, The capacity of present businesses far exceeds current usage. What a bargain for permanent residents to have more amenities supported by time-share visitors! d) Although I am not a golfer, I feel that upgrades of the clubhouse and course would enhan<;:e our resort. Under current plans by PLA, as I understand them, rebUilding of the clubhouse is dependent upon sale of the log dump land to TrendWest. e) The esthetic effect of the TrendWest facility is uncertain at this point, However, I am not enthusiastic about the appearance of the log-dump area now, either from the road or from the water, A tastefully landscaped resort could be an improvement. Back to top Tom'" Marge Carter Guest D Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:53 am Post subject: Trendwest Proposal rG qLlote ] l+) We support PLA's sale of 14,66 acres of land in Tract E to Trendwest for the development unveiled at the publiC reception in Port Ludlow on March 24, 2005, and again before the Hearing Examiner on August 16, 2005, That plan seemed to be well thought-out and, we thought, would be a welcome addition to Port Ludlow, revitalizing the Village Core. Unfortunately, that plan was rejected because of issues relating to the current zoning of the land. PLA and Trendwest now seek to change that through amendment of the Development Agreement, and we support that change, We agree with Kevin Ryan, Tom & Mary Ann Callahan, RIch & Denise Grimm, and others that this project would be good for Port Ludlow, We believe the many benefits would include maintenance of our property values, employment opportunities in our community, enhancements to existing amenities, poSSible new amenities, Increased visibility for our area, and as mentioned il~()G IT # http://hmleague.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start= IPsi~. 7.6~ 11/2i263t South Bay Community AssOci.n :: View topic - Trendwest e Page 4 of6 # Page http://hmleague.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4&postdays=O&postorder=asc&start= 15&si... 11/2/2006 month's "Voice" editorial, the smaller "footprint" that this project will need as compared with an equivalent number of homes built elsewhere within the MPR, We hope that SBCA will support PLA and Trendwest In amending the Development Agreement, Tom &. Marge Carter Back to top Jim. Margaret Guest o Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6: 14 am Post subject: We support the PLA and welcome the Trend West rem quote ) Development \+-) We strongly support the Trendwest development project In Port Ludlow, We own a home In the community and work here, We believe Trendwest will have a very possltlve impact on the economic well being and Over all appeal of our town. It certainly will not detract from the value of the property in Port Ludlow, nor will it detract from the beauty of the area, It will ensure the success of our small business folks, and should spread the Share of investing in the improvements needed in the future. Back to top Russ and JUdy Michel Guest o Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: Trendwest [<mquote) ~ ~~ We oppose the Trendwest development as proposed. Trendwest has over 250K owners who can select a destination based on point value. The average stay in a unit is approximately 4 days. There is no pride of ownership, Trendwest is Indeed "transient" as declared by the Hearing Examiner, Secondly, we are concerned abount the scale of the project. The Discovery Bay complex is 52 units and the Ocean Shores complex is 32 units. The proposed PL complex is twice the size of Discovery Bay, There would be swimming pools and spas -- all that have demand on our water and sewer system that likely Is out of scope with original engineering plans, Remember that our water system Is served by wells. We plan on attending the meeting on the 22nd and urge all to do SO. Back to top TLV Lot 75 Guest o Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject: Trendwest rem quote J I am persuaded that the Trendwest development would be good for Port ~--H Ludlow (as well as for the surrounding communities in Jefferson County), We need a little bit more heterogeneity where we live, more restaurants and cafes, more shOps of all kinds, a pharmacy, etc. Grocery shopping should be a lot more convenient, I do not think that a more bustling village center would detract from the peace and quiet of our beautiful residential neighborhoods, The Trendwest development LOG ITE '2 (;:C) l'2- of sou~h Bay Community Associ. :: View topic - Trendwest e Page 5 of6 could make us a more interesting place. To characterize prospective timeshare owners as "transients," while technically accurate, has a slightly pejorative ring to it. As a timeshare owner myself, I would like to reaSsure the skeptics that timeshare owners are by and large responsible, pleasant people who bring a holiday spirit to wherever they go (not to mention their cash), They are not community liabilities. Beyond that, however, (however regretfully) for us to sell our homes. There may well be they are apt to enhance our real estate values when they go home from their visits with us and start dreaming of coming back as future home owners some day, We need visibility if and when the time comes more prospective bidders for us to choose from then, if old timeshare vacationers come home to roost, But for some fond vacation memories from this area, we would not ourselves be living here to-day, rrendwest is a positive I N Karam Guest t::l Posted: Sun Oct 01,20061:54 am Post subject: Trendwest Development rG qLl.ote 1 Back to top C-J I see no benefit to the Port Ludlow community in the construction of the proposed Trendwest development, I cannot see a facility of this proportion fitting anywhere here. It appears to be not much better than a glorified motel, which is not the reason I chose to live here. How do we know this property will be maintained without binding CC&Rs? The transient population may bring their dollars but will also put a strain on our already limited services, How will our few roads handle hundreds of additional cars? Who is to say PLA will honor those promises of a new grocery store and club house. Dont we remember that this "carrot" has been dangled before every time PLA wants to modify the master plan, If the log dump is rezoned, who Is to stop other developers down the line from building maybe a Motel 6. As for the argument of additional employment opportunities, It is obvious that most of the jobs that are created will be low paying service jobs, which we have plenty of already in this county, LOG ITE # loC;- http://hmleague.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4&postdays=0&postorder=asc&sJ~si... · rl/2Bbo6 S~~th Bay Community AssOCi. :: View topic - Trendwest e Page 6 of6 DonP Guest o Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:46 am Post subject: Trendwest l~ quote J I do not support the Trendwest project, Back to top (+) My wife and I support the Trendwest development. I see it as the only pOssible route to Improvement of the amenities in Port Ludlow. If nothing is done toward that end, Port Ludlow home values will gradually decline, All that I have heard of other Trendwest facilities is that they are well run and an asset to the area in which they are built, Don and Roz Plorde Back to top South Bay Resident Guest o Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: Trendwest r:m quote J e1 We are in agreement with the planned Trendwest development simply for it's positive economic impact to our cOmmunity. Guest o Posted: Thu NOv 02, 2006 7: 33 pm Post subject: r~ quote ) Back to top (t) Being a timeshare owner I see only a positive outcome for Port Ludlow by haVing the Trendwest project located here. It will have a positive economic affect, I support the Trendwest development Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts Oldest First ~ ("a newtopic") {"0 postTeply.'j South Bay Community Association Forum Index -> SBCA Forum '--~ . . _. 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