HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:00:47 There it is progress.
09:00:55 Alright!
09:00:57 Thanks. Good to go ahead and hurt the bells, though
09:01:02 Alright, we're reporting. Okay. Good morning. Everyone happy.
09:01:07 Tuesday I will call this meeting of the Board of Canada Commissioners to order special Guest. Was this in the Chambers today that we'll get to after after public comment.
09:01:17 But glad to have you here first up, as always, we have a public comment period until 9, 30.
09:01:25 But I did want to take one moment. We're here on Tuesday, of course, because we're celebrating Martin Luther King Day yesterday, and and I hope everyone kind of thought deep.
09:01:37 It's a big thinking holiday for me, but I did he's about the most quarterable man ever so I did bring a quote for true, for Mr. Mr.
09:01:45 King to share with everyone. This morning so I'm just gonna reim.
09:01:51 These are both from strength to love. His collection of Germans from 1,963, one.
09:01:57 And I'm gonna read it as he did. But I think he's talking about all people.
09:02:00 The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
09:02:08 The true neighbor will risk his position, his prestige, and even his life for the welfare of others in a dangerous, valleys and hazardous pathways he will lift some bruised
and beaten brother to a higher and more noble life.
09:02:21 I think that really incorporates with how I try to approach this job, and and one more from that same, a different sermon.
09:02:28 But in the same book is the the tough mind is sharp and penetrating, breaking through the crust of legends and myths, and sifting the true from the false, the tough mined individual
is astute and discerning.
09:02:40 He has a strong, a steer quality that makes for firmness of purpose, and solidness of commitments, who doubts that this toughness is one of man's greatest needs.
09:02:50 Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard solid thinking.
09:02:54 There is almost a universal quest for easy answers, and half-baked solutions.
09:02:59 Nothing pains some people more than having to think
09:03:02 So, as we, we take on challenging topics, you know some that we are late on already, and some that we are right there at the late air. So can I.
09:03:15 Just say real quick. I spent yesterday learning how little I knew about Dr.
09:03:20 King, and really committing recommending to to doing more reading and and understanding his work better.
09:03:28 It's easy to to simplify it or think that we understand because of his.
09:03:34 His incredible legacy, but his body of work is so rich, and so much deeper than than I knew.
09:03:40 And so that's my commitment for the years to so do some some deep reading from Dr.
09:03:46 King yesterday was a great reminder for that. Right?
09:03:51 Okay, with that. We'll we'll open it up for public comment.
09:03:55 Well, we have some group that are here for the the proclamation later, and we'll give you all an opportunity to talk there, too.
09:04:00 But everyone has up to 3Â min to talk. We'll start with folks in the room and go to online.
09:04:05 Kathleen, please take the mic and do speak right into the mic when you're when you're talking.
09:04:10 So folks at home can hear as well. My name is Kathleen Lauren.
09:04:15 I live at 50. Beach, drive on, Mariston. Hi!
09:04:19 So nice to see all of you, and thank you for all that you do, including spending your weekends and holidays, preparing for meetings like this one.
09:04:24 Thank you. I'm here today to support and to witness the proclamation for the inherent rights of the Southern Resident.
09:04:31 Arcas. They are struggling, and we all need to do what we can to support them.
09:04:36 Thank you for being the first county and our State to do this, and the following port towns, and as the first city since their proclamation, the cities of Gig Harbor and Langley
have followed suit, we need a grounds of support to help change our current nature, paradigm that sees all
09:04:52 Life for sale gives legal personhood to corporations and not to living.
09:04:56 Beings, Bolivia has given legal rights to all of Mother Nature.
09:05:01 So we have a ways to go
09:05:04 On Saturday I watched the way of the whales workshop sponsored by the Orchan network in Langley, and learned a lot of current information about our Southern resident Orcas 1,972
we passed the marine mammal protection Act which
09:05:16 prohibited hunting. 50 years later all of the marine mammal species, including whale seals, sea otters, etc.
09:05:22 Are doing well, all except our 73 Southern Resident, Orcas, even the Northern resident Orcas, who also only eat salmon number over 300, because they are closer to healthy salmon
runs the transient orcas, who eat marine mammals, and not fish are thriving with
09:05:37 The increased number of seals and sea lions. So what can be done to help the Southern Resident?
09:05:42 Orcas. We definitely need to increase their food supply. A recent Seattle Times article discussed reducing the number of salmon eating seals and sea lines that made me think
we the humans are the biggest consumers of Chinook Samon.
09:05:55 So maybe we need to have a temporary, moreatorium on fishing.
09:05:59 Chinook, including Alaska, Chinook. I learned in the workshop that 97% of salmon caught in Alaska are from stocks in Washington, Oregon, and British Columbia.
09:06:08 We need to let us, you know, salmon stocks recover individually.
09:06:12 We can each do something I do know. Do not buy, or each, and examine, and that will now include Alaska, Chinook as a native elder once said, quote my relatives, Orca, only each
nook.
09:06:24 I don't need it. So I leave it for them unquote.
09:06:28 Thank you for signing the proclamation for doing all that you can to support our Southern Resident orchestra.
09:06:34 People on a call. No, no.
09:06:38 Thanks, Katherine.
09:06:41 Great. Would anyone else in the room like to make a comment
09:06:46 Come on!
09:06:50 Hmm! Hmm! Hmm! Travel and pause
09:07:00 I'm Deborah Ellers from Port Townsend, and I'd like to extend my heartfelt thanks to the Commissioners for considering the forward thinking proclamation which Kathleen Walter
and described so well.
09:07:10 I represent the North Olympic Orchapod.
09:07:14 We are a local advocacy in education. Grassroots group, each one of us individually represents one of the 72 critically endangered Southern resident Orcas we spend much of our
time doing efficacy around the lack of salmon issue that kathleen talked about and
09:07:31 specifically one of our major initiatives is support breaching the lower snake Rever dams in Eastern Washington, which is the single biggest action we could do to restore millions
of salmon into our Northwest ecosystem.
09:07:44 I mentioned that each of us represents an individual Orca.
09:07:47 I represent L. 25. Ocean son, who is the matriarch she's estimated to be over 90 years of age.
09:07:55 So think about ocean sun. She was born around 1930, and she witnessed what the salmon runs were like in the Salish Sea, and from the Columbia Snake Basin, literally millions,
in about 2015 or 2016 she took her pod down to Southern California because she likely remembered back
09:08:15 When, California, the Sacramento River was full of salmon. So she has that memory.
09:08:20 So it's her that spurs me on to try to restore our native ecosystem.
09:08:25 Now, I'm sure, as the Commissioners are well aware, the port towns and city council passed a similar proclamation last December, and I I posted that on the community Facebook
page, and it initiated a lot of discussion some people said well, so what it's just symbolic it has
09:08:41 No regulatory force, but many other people said, No, this is really spurring me to think, how can we live?
09:08:48 Our daily lives as Orca centric people in this community people were talking about starting rain gardens and buying different cars that weren't as polluting.
09:09:00 So I I think it's a significant step. And again, in conclusion, I commend the Commissioners and I would like to let you hear from the rest of our orcapod about their concerns,
and who they represent great thank you.
09:09:14 I'm in. I I'm nuggett all 55, and I am matriarch of 5.
09:09:22 I used to be the matriarch of 6, so I have personally witnessed the decline in salmon and the health of my family.
09:09:33 So please, and thank you very much for adopting what you're about to do.
09:09:40 Thank you.
09:09:48 Hmm! Anyone else
09:09:53 I represent Prosper, and she is from the kpod, and she is only a year old.
09:10:05 I'm also very new to this advocacy, format and and all I could say from her point of view, is, I'm hungry.
09:10:15 I'm hungry all the time. Thank you for what you're doing. Thank you.
09:10:27 I'm Katherine Jensen from Port Townsend.
09:10:30 Can you hear me? Probably hear me better with this?
09:10:35 I'm out of costume today, for reasons I will not go into.
09:10:39 But I brought eclipse, and she happens to be the organ that I represent.
09:10:45 She's jab 41 what she would say to you if she's here is, I've got 2 children.
09:10:52 I'm trying to feed, and I'm I'm one of the one of the important moms of this last generation, because I've had these 2 in the last decade.
09:11:03 Yay, that's for me, and I want you to know I'm grateful that I can sneak with them to the mouth of the Elwa every now and again, and see what their heritage should be.
09:11:18 As far as what they eat, instead of what they're currently not eating enough of.
09:11:24 So I want to thank you guys, anything like this we can do anywhere, any time is good.
09:11:31 So. Yes, I thank you. And so to my children. Thank you. Rush.
09:11:37 Come on up! Good morning. I'm Joe Blair, and I live in Cape George, and I'm a member of Native Connections.
09:11:46 Action Group and the North Olympic Archipod.
09:11:49 I represent J. 16, and I was born in 1972.
09:11:57 So I'm 50 years old , and I have 3 living offspring.
09:12:05 Mike, J. 26. Alkai, J. 36, and Echo, J.
09:12:12 43, and I have 2 calves that were born in 2,014 and 2015. Never.
09:12:20 Neither of them lived to the age of 4, because there aren't enough to examine.
09:12:27 There's heavy vessel traffic out where we really love to fish on the other side is sound.
09:12:33 One island and the water quality of the sales C is declining, so much so it's hard to fish, so please, I we really appreciate you signing this proclamation and taking down the
Lower Snake River downs would help a lot too.
09:12:57 Thank you.
09:13:00 Anyone else this morning coming up. Yes, I'm Jan, and Ellis.
09:13:04 I'm 72 Crew Street out on cake, George.
09:13:07 I'm here. I'm a friend of Chris Chris Kvorkins, the for legal rights for the sailors.
09:13:13 She, and I think it's important that we all start acknowledging the rights of nature, and we have to do something because there's a lot of money behind the people who like to
use nature for everything.
09:13:26 And without any thought of what it's going to do with the rest of the planet.
09:13:30 So I think that's why I'm here to support you and thank you so much for doing this.
09:13:34 Thank you very much.
09:13:38 In America, port Townsend represent Squam, one of the olders, the Kpod, has has been noted, has had a little bit of a bounce recently, but of course the whole situation is dire,
and when the pods travel together, you know you know that they're sharing information because they have to so we
09:13:58 Appreciate anything that the humans can do to help point us all toward what we can cut the account for ourselves and what we can give more to to the world.
09:14:11 Right. Thank you. Alright. Thank you. All. I'm great.
09:14:16 I think everyone in the room has had a chance to talk. So I see some folks with their hands raised online, and if anyone else is interested in speaking, you can click the raise
hand button or star 9, if you're on your phone and we'll we'll bring heather over hmm
09:14:31 And then we'll go to Chris. We'll go. We have another opportunity.
09:14:35 Folks in the room after we're done with online.
09:14:39 So heather. If you get yourself unmuted, you can turn your camera on if you like, and we you have 3Â min we'd love to hear.
09:14:46 What you have to say
09:14:47 Hi! Good morning. Thank you. Just just a quick one.
09:14:52 I want to thank you so much for doing the proclamation for the Southern residents didn't prepare any excellent to say, like the great old Broads, did I? I?
09:15:03 I second everything that they said. They're wonderful what they're doing.
09:15:07 And they they really nailed it and brought the points forth.
09:15:09 So just thank you. From the bottom of my heart. You guys are doing the right thing and these are these are the right steps forward.
09:15:17 No matter no matter how big or small it may seem, it's time to change the tone, so thanks so much to the great old Broads.
09:15:28 Chris Kavorkian, with the legal rights for the sailor C.
09:15:33 Ellie done Michelle Bender, Earth Law Center.
09:15:37 And really, you know, everyone who who steps forth to do this sort of work.
09:15:43 It's it's courageous, and so so necessary, and thanks to all of you.
09:15:49 Great. Thank you very much. Heather and, Chris, you're up next.
09:15:53 You can unmute, and if you'd like, turn on your camera
09:15:57 Thank you. I'll stick with not being on camera if you don't mind.
09:16:01 It's a little early, so I'm Chris Kaborki, and I'm founder of legal rights for the sale of city and on behalf of our group and our partners at the Earth Law Center, Michelle
Bender Ellie Denn and everybody there I just want to thank you
09:16:16 For supporting our campaign recognizing the inherent rights of the Southern residents, you are the first county to do so, as people have noted already, and we're extremely grateful
to each of you, and the Kathleen Patrick Johnson members of the Olympic
09:16:31 Orca, North Olympic, Orchapad, who are there for sharing their stories of the Orca.
09:16:36 They represent. I I have been a whale lover, my entire life.
09:16:40 I studied Wales when I was a kid, and in 2,001 I started work on researching the topic environmental grief which I coined back then, and I focused on the 7 resin orca asking
scientists how they were coping with the decline and back then it was a little
09:17:00 Bit unheard of, and and scientists were struggling quite a bit, thinking, what do you mean?
09:17:07 Environmental grief they're they're okay. They're gonna be okay.
09:17:10 And in the last several years people have just been experiencing this more and more, and as you heard from the north Olympic, Orchapod, as they were expressing and representing
the work as they represent pardon me, we know that environmental grief is huge not only for humans but for our
09:17:27 Animal, ken. So I'm very grateful for what you're doing today and hope that more counties and cities will jump on board and follow your lead.
09:17:35 So from the bottom of my heart. Thank you so much.
09:17:40 Thank you, Chris. Would anyone else online like to make when I should say we always respond to public comments after we find all of the all of the public, and we will have an
opportunity to comment on this?
09:17:51 Even more when we read the proclamation. People are talking about.
09:17:53 But anyone else online like to make a public comment today
09:17:58 Alright. We'll come back into the room, or we have some new folks.
09:18:01 Anyone else here would like to make public comment this morning, Patrick, come on up, please speak into the microphone.
09:18:04 So those at home can hear you too, oh, thank you, I think.
09:18:08 Did I miss the porcupine
09:18:12 Yeah, I didn't realize how early work has got up I'm Patrick Johnson.
09:18:21 I've been involved in this. And oh, good morning, Commissioners.
09:18:22 Just a thank you for being a public official. This is not an easy time to be to elected office in elected office rather, and as a citizen I deeply appreciate that.
09:18:32 So, I think you've heard from Chris, and others about the essence of the of the proclamation, and you'll hear a little bit more what I want to emphasize is that you do a lot
of these a lot of proclamations.
09:18:41 You issue proclamations just about every week, I think, but they're very, very important, because, as elected to fish as you represent the population, you speak out on behalf
of the citizens of Jefferson County, and these proclamations do make a difference.
09:18:55 As Chris said, you'll be the first county, probably in the country.
09:18:58 There are 3,000 plus counties across the country, and I believe that Jefferson County Washington, will be the first county that issues a proclamation recognizing the rights
of Orcas, and by virtue of your action you will inspire the I think there are 38 counties.
09:19:12 Across Washington. You will inspire those counties to do this as well.
09:19:16 So thank you for energy. Thank you for your commitment.
09:19:18 Thank you for understanding what this is about deeply appreciate your reward.
09:19:22 Thank you. Thank you, Patrick.
09:19:25 Any other public comments in the room. Come on up, Linda.
09:19:32 I endorsed the proclamation as well but that's not why I'm here. I'm Linda Herzog.
09:19:37 I'm from Kelsey, and I just want to note that yesterday I sent you a a all of you, a email.
09:19:45 That had a several attachments on it that has to do with the trail that Quillsene is going to have within the next 6 months or so.
09:19:53 We can't really call it a trail, because we're not paving anything, but it's a pathway through town of 3.1 miles, and I wanted to ask you if, after you've reviewed that material
and your public works department is coming to you if you have any questions more about it
09:20:07 I'd be more than happy to answer it. It's something that we're under a little bit of pressure to do, but we need an access to a piece of county property where we want to put
a kiosk it's all described in the email so I won't go further into it but I hope
09:20:21 you look kindly upon it, and that we can get moving on this trail. Thank you.
09:20:26 So much. Thank you, Linda.
09:20:30 Alright. We'll return to the online group. And would anyone else like to make public comment today can hit raise hand
09:20:41 All right. I don't see anyone. Yes, but we'll keep it open until 9, 30 and turn to my seat.
09:20:47 Mates, to see if you have any responses to the comments we've heard today, or in any written public account.
09:20:54 Oh, I'll start! I saw that we also received a few comments, and writing in support of this proxy, and I think I worked last week with our one of our staff.
09:21:05 Adl. And drafting the proclamation, and I know I think Commissioner Dean has one additional, whereas she would like to add a very important one.
09:21:14 But I am super supportive of of Orca whales, and I grew up in a commercial fishing family.
09:21:21 We did fish for King Salmon all up and down the coast from California to Alaska, and I still have a number of dear friends who earn their.
09:21:31 They're living that way. They not only fish for King Sam, and they also fish for coho and other species of salmon and other fish species.
09:21:38 Period. But so that's not one part of this that I would be very excited about jumping on and saying, I'm not excited about what they're proposing what they Alaska troll fishery,
but I've been very vocal and public about my support for reaching or removing
09:21:57 The Lower Snake River Dams and I think that that habits that that would open up, or our salmon species would be invaluable for the Orca Orca whales all the pods in our community
our neighbors, so I guess that would be all I would say other
09:22:16 than I'm wholeheartedly in support of the proclamation, and I guess on the trail, and quilting, it's not my district.
09:22:25 Greg probably knows a lot more about it than me, but I think anything we can do to encourage mobility and people getting out and walking and being in this beautiful place, we
live is something I would wholeheartedly support, and I read some of the materials that you sent and it.
09:22:40 Sounds like a wonderful enhancement to the community down there to get people out and about.
09:22:47 So I'm excited about that. Great nice to see many of you.
09:22:53 It's been a long time, Linda. Thank you for coming, and as usual, doing great work done in quilting.
09:23:00 Thank you. I sus suspect you'll be working a lot with public works on that, and but you certainly have my support for the project, and look forward to seeing progress there.
09:23:12 As for Orca, it's it's funny.
09:23:14 I'm a a farmer from the Midwest originally, and I have spent so much of the last few years working on 7 and Orca projects, and near and dear to my heart.
09:23:26 Now some well, it was really, I think, for many of us there was a watershed moment when when Telacua lost her her calf a few years ago, and and swam for 17 days, carrying her
calf, and you know it was such a
09:23:45 Wake-up call to me, and many, many others, and I had such a strong feeling of we we cannot on our watch.
09:23:54 Let this species go extinct, and we know that we are at the critical point right now.
09:24:00 Of deciding, if, indeed, the species iconic species, nobody can witness an arca, and not feel moved and connected on some very deep level.
09:24:14 So my my commitment of not not on my watch, and not when I'm in this position, which has been a really hard position to take.
09:24:21 Actually, it's gotten me in trouble with some of my County colleagues, not not locally, but we are really one of the only counties willing to stand up, because, you know.
09:24:31 So back to the irony of of Midwestern farmer, so much of what we do on the lands, effects affect our marine populations, so lots to talk about.
09:24:43 Here again, I said. I spent an enormous amount of my time working on these issues, and and the data is pretty terrible.
09:24:50 We are doing better in Jefferson, Canadian, our salmon producing streams, are, are seeing fairly consistent increases in salmon production, but across the State.
09:25:01 That, of course, is not true. So lot of work to be done and excited to support the proclamation, which we'll be talking about again in a few minutes.
09:25:11 Great. Thank you. And I'm I'm excited about the proclamation, too, and I'm I'm glad that folks showed up.
09:25:18 It's nice to. I had my joke already about our we is anyone from Jk. Or L.
09:25:21 Pod here to accept the proclamation, and I'm glad you are.
09:25:26 And it really it was make a difference. And this is important work.
09:25:29 You know I'm these they are, you know. They're a harbor for our future.
09:25:34 So I think that we really do need to do our best to protect them.
09:25:37 And I'm excited. If you guys can stick around. Since we're modifying the proclamation, it'll take a little bit, but we can send you off with with assigned proclamation, and
I think it's it's good work, and and to patrick's
09:25:50 Point. You know a lot of these proclamations are really expressions of our community values and proud to express this value to the, to the people of Washington State, and throughout
and to Linda I haven't had a chance to look at the ask exactly.
09:26:06 I'll talk to public works and and you know, you know you have my support.
09:26:09 So there is a mystery. I would still like to unravel about the first kiosk.
09:26:13 I just want to get to the bottom of it. See, I I told you he knew more about it than I did the community mystery.
09:26:22 Now I'm not gonna bring it forward, but we gotta figure that out as we go.
09:26:25 Move forward but I'm I'm excited for that that trail to develop, you know.
09:26:30 Much like, yeah, I I think it's really exciting.
09:26:33 I I love love everything about the project, and you have my support.
09:26:38 Okay, well, we'll give one more shout out to the public. If anyone online has been moved to make a comment, you can click the raise hand button
09:26:48 All right. Well, we can keep it up for another moment, but let's engage with the folks that we have, and take a look at the proclamation, and I think that we maybe want to do
a little bit of editing, so maybe can you highly share an editable copy on the screen and we can work off
09:27:06 that one. Sure we can do them out of order. Did you work on language?
09:27:12 I did. Okay, so avial email, us, the word document, okay for editing we we can take a look at consent first, though.
09:27:20 Sorry. I'm just eager to get to the proclamation with everyone in the room.
09:27:25 Alright. Well, now we'll come back. Let's let's let's take care of this first, and if whoever wants to be the the scrivener can can share the screen with the editable proclamation
we can and make that one change just in in deference to our indigenous
09:27:41 neighbors who have. We're here and had relationship with Orca long before my people did certainly, and long before Jefferson County existed or government existed.
09:27:51 I would like to to acknowledge their long-standing relationship so I would recommend something along the lines of adding a stanza, whereas Orca have been a sacred spiritual
species to the indigenous people, and tribes of the north olympic peninsula since
09:28:04 Time immemorial, but open to editing as well
09:28:10 That sounds great. Yeah. Okay, but let's just get it on the we put it on the screen so we can see it together.
09:28:19 Yeah, you want me to share that. Yeah, can you put it in the document?
09:28:22 Sure, that'll just take me a minute. You guys want to talk about it consent while I do that.
09:28:28 Yeah. Sure. Hmm, good stuff on consent this week. Any comments just you know, I've been flying low to the Olympic Peninsula Gateway Visitor Center Transition.
09:28:43 The Historical Society is not gonna be the fiscal sponsor of that any or the is that the right roll?
09:28:51 Yeah, I think it is of that organization anymore. And we put out, we drafted in our Fp for entities that might be interested in handling that site.
09:29:00 In the future, and I've heard of at least 3 entities that are interested.
09:29:05 So that'll be a change change in management.
09:29:09 But I think it's a good thing that there's so much interest in the community, and I look forward to seeing what happens. There.
09:29:13 Are you intending to serve on that selection panel?
09:29:17 Yeah, yeah, I'm you know. I was at the Chamber meeting last night.
09:29:24 But North Hoods Canal Chamber, I think, is going to yeah. That's true.
09:29:35 Yeah, I've been working on the Rfp. With Mark.
09:29:35 I think it looks great, and then other than that, it's just all that the comings and goings of our advisory board.
09:29:42 So I'm just great super grateful for people in our community stepping up to serve on the dozens of boards and committees that help this community have the spirit.
09:29:52 It does so we have a few people leaving the Housing Fund Board and Jennifer Taylor, leaving the solid waste advisory Committee is that it feels like A. C.
09:30:00 Change to me, and then the transition, the seamless transition on the tourism, coordinating council between Christina and Dan.
09:30:08 Thank's already been attending the meetings, and is looking forward to his appointment.
09:30:12 So I just expressing gratitude for folks in our community, step up to serve in these roles it's it's actually a lot of work.
09:30:21 I mean we. We sit on all these committees, and I've seen firsthand over the last 2 years how much work it is!
09:30:27 Each of these committees that is mobilized it's it's hard.
09:30:31 We actually had a conversation last week with a volunteer on one of our boards, and they talked about accessibility issues like, if we had a committee meeting during the day,
it means they have to take time off work, not get paid and choose to serve rather than making their living.
09:30:47 So it really is a commitment and we want to make it as as easy as possible.
09:30:53 And it's it's hard to lose both Anya and Robert, we're, you know, lose 2 out of 7 members.
09:30:59 Anya was a elected not to to, to reap. And she's doing a lot of important work with behavioral health.
09:31:05 You in the in the county, and I had lunch with Bob Davis last week, too, and he's been a really valuable member of it.
09:31:12 We'll have the 2 position posted, so hope to be able to look at some applications before our Housing Fund Board meeting on the 20 eighth.
09:31:21 I think. And I you know I know Christina and and Dan too, and I think really valued Christina's contributions, but she was one of those folks that you know, has a business to
run at the same time that those Tcc.
09:31:36 Meetings are, so I'm really glad that Dan Ventura.
09:31:38 Yeah, it was a really dynamic new entrepreneur in South South Jefferson County is is stepping up, and I would just say I would make a motion to appoint Stacy to anything I see
where we're we're pointing her to the risk management.
09:31:56 Committee which I would. There's nobody better in our county to serve on that committee.
09:32:02 So anyway, I just thought, let's sign up, Pointer to too much, totally and any other notes on consent.
09:32:10 Thank you. Guys covered it. Well, okay, well, we can just take care of that.
09:32:13 So we don't forget. I make a motion to approve an adaptive consent.
09:32:17 Agenda as presented and I'm happy to second that any questions cons.
09:32:23 All in favor indicate by saying, Aye, aye, aye, consent, agenda passes all right back to our proclamation.
09:32:32 Where? Hmm! Thanks for sure. And we can talk about if we I think that it should go.
09:32:44 That that stanza should go first or second.
09:32:48 I put it in first, just because I I'm used to acknowledging a tribes first.
09:32:55 Yeah, that makes sense. Hmm, capitalized trucks
09:33:02 I don't think so. That are consistent. Oh, really, okay.
09:33:08 I don't close it.
09:33:15 Hey? Do you want to kick us? Oh, sorry! Bad habits!
09:33:24 I think that looks great
09:33:26 Alright! There we go, hey, Heidi Graham!
09:33:30 Alright, they grow away. A proclamation declaration of Rights for the Southern Resident, Orcas.
09:33:38 Where has the Southern resident Orcas have been a sacred spiritual species to the indigenous people and tribes of the North Olympic Peninsula?
09:33:43 Since time immemorial, and the whereas the Orca are culturally and economically important to the people of Washington State in the world.
09:33:52 However despite legal protections, for nearly 2 decades, the population continues to decline, and as critically endangered with only 73 of his men magnificent creatures, left
in the wild, and whereas the orchestra survival is dependent on healthy and functioning ecosystems including the
09:34:09 Sailor C. The Fraser River watershed the Columbia River Basin and the Lower Snake River watershed, and whereas over 20 countries dozens of local communities in the United States
and several tribal governments have recognized that nature has inherent
09:34:24 And that human society has the responsibility, protect and steward nature in a manner consistent with our interconnected relationship.
09:34:32 And whereas nature and all living beings, including the Southern resident Orcas, and the ecosystems upon which they depend, are recognized as possessing inherent rights, including
the right to exist, flourish, evolve, regenerate, and recover, and be restored, and whereas the rights of
09:34:50 The Southern Resident. Orcas include, but are not limited to the right to life.
09:34:55 Autonomy, culture, free and safe passage, adequate food supply from naturally occurring sources and freedom from conditions causing physical emotional, or mental harm.
09:35:04 Including a habitat degraded by noise, pollution, and contamination.
09:35:08 Now, therefore, the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners does hereby proclaim a declaration of rights for the Southern Resident, Orcas, and urges action by local, State,
federal, and tribal governments to secure the ecosystems upon which these orcas depend
09:35:23 Proclaimed the seventeenth day of January, 2,023 great, and before we take notion, since we did modify it, we should probably give an opportunity for public comments, and I
did notice there was one difference from the proclamation as published in our agenda the one that you were working on
09:35:39 Kate the second, whereas the old first, whereas our says culturally, spiritually, and economically important, yeah.
09:35:54 So I I changes for the I moved up Southern Resident Orcas parts in this one, and then remove the spiritual and put that in with the the tribal.
09:36:00 Okay, so before we take a motion on this proclamation, we'll open it up for public comment.
09:36:08 If anyone has any issue with any changes.
09:36:12 Okay, anyone online, that was make public comments.
09:36:17 Well, I'll say one thing, you know my personal resolution for this year was to give up industrial meet.
09:36:25 We raise our own meat, and you know there's meat that has had a good, healthy life.
09:36:28 You know our pigs are just destroying a field right now, and Happy happy as happy as you can.
09:36:34 You can imagine, and I'll follow Kathleen's suggestion to give up Shannon, to. I love salmon and fish is one of the few things I can eat out in about now, but there's there's
lots of good fish to eat and I I can leave the chin up for the
09:36:46 Orchestra. So that's that's an easy step for me to make personally, and we've got to do that.
09:36:51 Coho is delicious. I'll just say, you know, a people are are critical of taking actions like this because it it can seem really performative.
09:37:03 But I I think it's for me. This is really about committing ourselves to making decisions that that keep in mind these rights, that that is not kind of insurance anywhere formally,
and one of the many weird things about how we do governments in this country, that we give we give rights to lots
09:37:27 Of things, but not the things that are very existent. Depend existence depends upon.
09:37:33 So the this is, you know we are not. This is an necessarily taking action with this, but it is a a reminder to hold ourselves to the values talked about here.
09:37:45 And so have my commitment in that. Well said alright, all, all in favor of of approving the proclamation as as amended and read today did we make a motion?
09:37:57 Oh, no! No, no, we did. We did, I think, didn't we?
09:38:02 Or did I just jump, I will move that we adopt this proclamation.
09:38:09 Declaration of Rights of the Southern Resident Orgas, 2 flippers up great!
09:38:17 All, all in favor of approving the proclamation as read today and amended.
09:38:20 To indicate by saying, Aye, bye, bye, alright!
09:38:25 That motion passes great. Great. So if you guys can stick around for a little bit, we gotta print out the you know on the nice paper the new one and we'll we'll get that sign
and you can take it away and it's smudge free ink right I mean it's
09:38:39 Waterproof.
09:38:43 Okay. So the Commissioner's office down the hall is where it will be ready in a little bit the health officer will be at 9 45.
09:38:52 Virtually. Yes, I was hoping you would ask
09:39:07 So I'm trying to get this sense off so that I can get
09:39:18 Yeah. Alright.
09:39:39 I know it's
09:39:44 Wonderful.
09:39:50 Thanks for being
09:39:58 I just came out, you know.
09:40:16 Okay. Patrick.
09:40:19 After all. Alright! Well, we have a few minutes
09:40:28 Hmm! I'll have to go there. Oh, that'd be great
09:40:36 Right. What's your what your place is there
09:40:41 Oh, here it is! Got it cool! Are you ready to keep at it, or do you wanna 5Â min break before?
09:40:48 Would someone like to start going through their briefing from last week
09:40:55 Sure.
09:40:59 It was like a long time ago, I know. Okay.
09:41:05 Alright last week I had a funny week out with some family medical missed part of our meeting on Monday.
09:41:15 Let's see. Tuesday had meeting of the Maritime Washington Advisory Board.
09:41:21 So this is the new national designation of a national heritage area, and I was on the Advisory Board.
09:41:31 We drafted a management plan which was then approved by the Secretary of the Interior, and we are now officially a national heritage area, and both Jake Beatty and I were appointed
from the Advisory Board.
09:41:45 Then, or excuse me. The steering committee to the Advisory Board.
09:41:49 I think that this designation has, you know, some potential to really kind of advance.
09:41:56 The what, what makes this region unique. And there are a number of voices on that board that are committed to not talking about maritime heritage as something in the past, and
is something under glass.
09:42:11 And there's something static. But instead, to really recognize that maritime heritage is something we live with that is growing and evolving.
09:42:18 And so glad that local governments are at the table. There's nothing regulatory about that area and that designation.
09:42:25 But you know it is pretty profound when you think about how important maritime is to our county, to the region, to the tribes, and really trying to push to that this board be
taking very seriously the need for responsible tourism this it would be easy for this to also just be
09:42:49 Another kind of booster project promoting tourism. But instead, saying, What what does responsible tourism look like to to ensure that the what we love about the maritime area?
09:42:58 Is that destroyed in our loving of it, and that area is a quarter mile from the shoreline, and down to Pacific County.
09:43:09 Is that right? Yeah. And all the way down through Puerto Rico.
09:43:12 So it's almost 3,000 miles. And I had not heard until last week that the maritime Center got some funding from the Heritage Capital budget, and they'll be hosting an office
and a some classroom space and visitors yeah, for the heritage area which is great so we
09:43:36 Are becoming kind of a the hub for for that doesn't state my designation.
09:43:42 Is there a timeline for other projects? I mean, there's like there are some funds for projects throughout the maritime.
09:43:50 Yeah, few funds, which is mostly to have. I think it's one and a half F.
09:43:55 Tes for staffing it's and then but then it can be used to leverage additional funding, too.
09:44:03 So that's kind of the the job of this newly formed board is, decide what our priorities are and how to be strategic and seeking additional funds.
09:44:13 So stay tuned, but I'm glad that that's underway, and it's it's a a great board.
09:44:20 So you know, folks from National Park Service, or other
09:44:26 Right ports and tribes, and the right group of folks to be really thinking about how we, how we manage as a region, manage our our maritime areas.
09:44:38 Let's see. Wednesday had a meeting with the West Sound STEM network staff person.
09:44:47 As we know, the Wisconsin STEM was expanded to formally include Jefferson and column counties with staff person and an office here, and just trying to be more strategic.
09:45:00 And you know I've I've always been a little bit lumxed by our workforce dollars, and how we can be more specific a meeting when the needs here.
09:45:10 So it feels like a good opportunity. I'm gonna join the Advisory Board for that or the the local Peninsula Office, and the work being done here.
09:45:19 So more to come on that let's see, we should pause there oh, yeah, we're 9 45. Let's bring Dr.
09:45:30 Barry over and and welcome the listeners from Kptz for our our second health update health officer update of the month the year.
09:45:42 Willie is not going to join us today he did not have any questions, and and his unable to join us.
09:45:47 So Dr. Barry, you got the whole. You don't have to leave that that 5Â min at the end for Willie.
09:45:52 Today you can take the whole 45Â min. Hmm.
09:45:53 Well, good morning. It's nice to join you guys today.
09:45:57 So on the Covid front we have a little bit of an interesting national picture.
09:46:02 We're seeing a really different rates of transmission and severity in different parts of the country.
09:46:08 So on the east coast we're seeing a rapid escalation in cases hospitalizations and depths, and on the west coast we're actually seeing flag cases, flat hospitalizations and
in some places even a decrease.
09:46:21 And so I think one of the big questions that comes from that is is why in Washington State and in Jefferson County we are following the West Coast trend we're not seeing a rapid
escalation in cases, and not seeing a rapid escalation in severity of disease which is very hopeful we think the biggest
09:46:38 Driver of that is actually differential vaccination rates between the 2 sides.
09:46:42 So the biggest driver of this change in in COVID-19 prevalence and severeity is the newest sub variant called Xb.
09:46:52 1.5 if you're following the Covid news, you might have seen that some people have turned it.
09:46:57 The cracking variants, that is, not a medical term.
09:47:01 We don't use that, but wanted to reference it in case you're wondering, because it it gives you more level of concern that, I think, is entirely appropriate but what we've seen
so far from xb.
09:47:12 One is that it is more infectious, more immune, evasive, particularly for prior infection, and in those who are not up to date on their vaccines we're seeing early indications
of increased severity as well.
09:47:26 And so we think that's what's driving what's going on on the east coast right now?
09:47:30 Interestingly, though this subject is actually very similar to be a 5, which is in the bivalent vaccine, and so we're seeing very good coverage from the bivalent against this
newest subarium.
09:47:43 So what we saw on East coast is that within a couple of weeks of its arrival it just rapidly overtook all of the other variants on the west coast.
09:47:51 We've had it for over a month, and it's only about 8% of the variance that we're seeing.
09:47:56 And we think the primary driver of that is that we're more vaccinated.
09:47:59 The nation as a whole is about 15% vaccinated with bivalent.
09:48:06 Compare that to Jefferson County, where we're 47% vaccinated with the violent.
09:48:11 And so that really does appear to be driving a very different picture than what we're hearing in the rest of the country.
09:48:16 Now it's no guarantee. It's possible that we could see a search here too much like what we've seen on the East coast, but so far it's not shaking out that way.
09:48:25 And the biggest protection we have against that is to be up to date on your boosters.
09:48:29 So if you haven't gotten your bivalent yet now is a really good time to get it, because it's very good protection against the sub variant.
09:48:35 That's starting to circulate widely in the country as a whole, in Jefferson County.
09:48:40 Right. Now, we have diagnosed 43 cases in the last week which puts us at a case rate of 246.
09:48:47 Our case as retainment rate is a little better than last week.
09:48:50 At one in 10, so you can as you can, estimate that there's about 430 people who have Covid in the last week, and our case rate is over 2,000.
09:48:59 So still, there's a lot circulating. But it's flat or actually decreasing.
09:49:04 From where we were last week, and thankfully, we're not seeing a significant rise in severe disease.
09:49:09 There's only one person hospitalized for COVID-19 in our community right now for a total of 176.
09:49:16 And thankfully. We have no new deaths to announce today, on the other virus watch area we are seeing significant and sustained decreases in flu and Rsv activity in our region
as well. Thankfully.
09:49:30 Rsv is now 8% positive when you get when people get tested for us, we only about 8% of them actually have it.
09:49:37 And for flu, it's 9% test positivity, and only about 2% of LED visits in our region.
09:49:43 Right now our flu are for infrastructure, like illnesses. So it's really coming down.
09:49:47 Sharply. We're really hopeful, that we're gonna actually see that sustain because we haven't seen a post holiday bump in our region.
09:49:55 We unfortunately do have 1 one piece of bad news to share today, which is that we did lose one of our residents to influenza we have one death to announce today.
09:50:06 This was a gentleman in his seventies. He had underlying conditions, and he was not vaccinated.
09:50:11 It's a painful reminder that the most important thing we can do to reduce severe disease and transmission of the flu in our community is to get vaccinated so if you haven't
yet, there's still time.
09:50:22 I still recommend you. Go out and get that definitely. I recommend going out and getting your bivalent.
09:50:26 If you haven't already, and masking when we're in crowded indoor spaces, continues to be important I don't think it will be forever, I do think actually one of our questions
on Kptz was about that of why, do we think that it's going to get better I do think
09:50:41 COVID-19 is starting to move into a more seasonal pattern, much like flu.
09:50:47 And R. Speed, even with the sub variance, because so many of us have had it over the course of this winter.
09:50:54 It's likely that we're gonna see it move into more of a seasonal pattern.
09:50:57 So we'll see less transmission as we move into the spring, because so many people got it in the last couple of months, and the normal changes in our behavior when we get into
the warmer months.
09:51:08 Now, there are never any guarantees when it comes to COVID-19, it can always surprise us, but I am hopeful that we're likely to see more of a seasonal pattern.
09:51:16 The best thing we could do to make that happen is to make sure we're up to date on all our vaccines and to continue to wear masks through the winter season.
09:51:24 And then we'll keep monitoring things as we move into the spring, and hopefully we'll see better days when we get there.
09:51:30 And with that I'm happy to take any questions from the Commissioners.
09:51:35 Any questions for Dr. Barry today. I don't. I have one.
09:51:41 Hi
09:51:53 Okay.
09:51:41 Hi Dr. Barry! I am. I'm I'm curious, and I I feel like my family is moving a little bit back in time to stricter protocols with my husband and a aggressive chemotherapy regiment.
09:51:55 Can you tell me how? How are? How is is mask?
09:52:02 How effective is masking right now with current subvariance, and especially the kind of one-sided masking you know, we're we're trying to decide how like obviously, we can mask
consistently.
09:52:17 But you know, when we're going to place where other people aren't masked it, how much risk is there still with, you know, the one-sided masking for protection
09:52:26 Sure, so when you're talking about kind of what one-sided protection based masking where everyone else around you is unmasked.
09:52:34 Really, especially when you're dealing with someone who's very high risk people under undergoing chemotherapy, or some of the highest risk.
09:52:42 You really do want your best possible mass that they can tolerate.
09:52:45 So if they can tolerate an that is highly effective, and still, even for current variance, you're seeing upward of 95% efficacy for preventing getting the virus as long as it
fits you well, and you wear it well.
09:53:01 And so for for men. That means, if you're wearing an you actually can't wear piano, have a beard.
09:53:07 See Commissioner Brotherton knows this detail oh, so it doesn't, doesn't work as well.
09:53:11 If there's hair holding it off from your face, and really should have a tight seal around your mouth.
09:53:15 If you're to work quite well as well, you're talking upwards of 90% protection, and they are generally much more comfortable for many folks.
09:53:25 The trick with your is that you should see when you're breathing heavily like.
09:53:28 Say your climbing stairs, that you should see it bend in, and if it's doing that, you have a good seal, so for myself, for my face, I fits well for other folks.
09:53:39 You might feel kind of a pull on your ears and a K.
09:53:41 F 94 might be a matter match. Same thing. You want to see it bend in when you're breathing in deeply.
09:53:46 If you have that, you have a good seal, and you're pretty well protected.
09:53:50 You always want to layer your prevention. So, for instance, if you're having people over to your house, and you know one member of your family is very high risk and going to
be in.
09:54:00 And it's still good to, you talk to everybody else who's coming.
09:54:03 Make sure they're not sick. Make sure that, you know they haven't been doing very high risk things, you know.
09:54:08 They just went to a large indoor concert 4 days ago might be worth having them get get tested before they come in.
09:54:14 Those kind of things, but it's a matter of minimizing risk as much as you can.
09:54:19 Well, living your life the best you can, especially when you're dealing with very difficult diagnosis.
09:54:24 It's important to see humans and have that kind of closeness.
09:54:28 But to do it as safely as you can, and I think it is important to acknowledge that there are individuals in our community that will need to have higher levels of protection
and have needed to help this process.
09:54:43 We have people who are on immunosuppressants who often feel kind of left behind as we talk about the days when there might be less masking.
09:54:49 And so I think we should all try to keep that in mind.
09:54:52 There will be people who will likely be in large-scale mass more intense masks, long after the rest of us take them off, and I think, being thoughtful about that being gracious
and offering to put on a mask when you see someone if you see someone in an in a store it's
09:55:08 probably a reason for that, and thinking about ways that we can support them, make them more comfortable, and reduce their risk by potentially masking up when they're around.
09:55:18 That can all go a long way
09:55:20 Thank you. Can I follow up on that real quick? I'm just.
09:55:23 Yeah.
09:55:24 I'm curious if you know as we, you know, move into this this new landscape, and kind of resonated with me.
09:55:31 You know, if you see someone in an in 95 in a store there's a reason they're they're wearing it.
09:55:35 And I think just to to build that empathy muscle.
09:55:36 Do you know how many, what precautions of our population, you know roughly
09:55:45 Yeah.
09:55:43 Should be wearing an that, you know. Are, you know, suppressed, or or I mean are are really at risk.
09:55:52 And if they're really thinking about the long term, health should be wearing one
09:55:55 Yeah, I think, statewide. The estimate was that though, that we're looking at about 7% of the population is on Syria enough immunosuppressants that they're likely gonna need
that long term in Jefferson county because the age of our population it's likely higher so
09:56:11 Roughly, probably about 15% of our population is gonna need kind of higher level protection.
09:56:16 And that's just for immunosuppression.
09:56:19 People on chemo, people on municipality, there's other folks, you know, people who are over 65, and have you had multiple heart attacks.
09:56:27 You know things that put them at high risk of severe covid that will also need that as well.
09:56:31 So there's probably at least one in 5 of us is gonna need significant protection going forward.
09:56:37 And and it's important to keep them in mind and support them as we move through all this.
09:56:41 And we'll remember you can't always tell. You know there are young people who are facing cancer diagnoses, who you might not be able to see it when you see them.
09:56:51 So have that compassion, and do what you can all the way through to mitigate rescue.
09:56:56 Don't go places when you're sick. It's really important to the extent that you can if you're at all wondering if you're sick putting a mask on when you're going out.
09:57:04 All those kind of things still make a big difference as we move into this next space.
09:57:16 Yeah.
09:57:09 Well, and just a a shout out that for each of those one in 5 there's probably a caregiver that is needing to be extremely cautious, too, so you can hopefully almost double that
as well
09:57:18 Absolutely right. Yeah, hopefully, we have support people for these individuals.
09:57:26 Are we feeling
09:57:26 So, and then I wanted to add, there is that that is important is, if you have someone in your house that you're taking care of is particularly high risk.
09:57:38 The more protection you, the more protective steps you can make in your life.
09:57:41 The the bet, and the safer there'll be which includes also important to remember, a newborn infants.
09:57:47 So, kids on your 6 months don't have functioning immune systems and so doing everything we can to protect them, to minimize our risk and to when we have visitors.
09:57:59 That's a high visitor time to make sure that people are well and masked when they're visiting newborn kids
09:58:06 I was just gonna say, I think we're all gonna feel grateful for the enhanced outdoor entertaining areas that we created over the okay.
09:58:13 Yes.
09:58:16 Kate, did I, before I was elected the Commissioner.
09:58:20 I saw her, and we had a Christmas party there a couple of years ago, but I think you know it's one of the silver linings of Covid is spending more time outside with the people
we love.
09:58:32 Ma'am
09:58:32 So, and learning how to better protect them, which they've always needed. Yeah.
09:58:35 Okay, absolutely. Well, we didn't have a ton of questions today.
09:58:41 But a couple were about data. So one was asking.
09:58:46 So last week we reported 38 positive cases, but a key s entertainment rate of one and 15.
09:58:53 And I said, Does that mean 570 people currently have active Covid in Jackson County?
09:58:58 And the answer is, Yes, that's our estimate. Is that you really need to take whatever number of cases we report that week and multiply it by the case.
09:59:06 Ascertainment rate. There was also a suggestion that that our local media report report that case after came at rate and help people figure out how to apply it, and we can certainly
work on some more messaging on that. And our end.
09:59:20 But it is really important. The numbers we reported to a tiny fraction of the amount that are out there.
09:59:25 We're catching a little bit more now. It's one in 10 this week you still want to take our number of cases and our end our case rate and multiply it by 10 and that's how much
is circulating at this moment.
09:59:38 Yeah, absolutely.
09:59:36 Can I follow up on that real quick, Dr. Barry? I'm curious with your earlier report about the troubling trend on the East Coast versus the West Coast, and with the you know
the case ascertainment rate that we have are we really just seeing are we seeing higher rates over there are we seeing higher
09:59:54 rates of serious disease, I mean, do you know what
09:59:56 We offer, we, even we have similar case as entertainment challenges across the country so there's no reason to think that the east coast is finding more cases than we are.
10:00:07 But the one of the key differences is we're seeing significant rises and severe disease.
10:00:12 And so you're not gonna miss those I have colleagues say, trained on the East Coast that are working in East Coast hospitals. And they're starting to see them hospitals getting
overrun with Covid patients again, which is not thankfully not something We're seeing out here
10:00:25 And I guess I just I would imagine that if that happened locally we would kind of buckle down on the testing and reporting.
10:00:31 So your case as retainment rate, I would guess, would go down as serious disease goes up.
10:00:37 So I'm just. I guess that's the balance I was trying to understand a little bit
10:00:42 Yeah, the case as entertainment rate part of how we part of how we model that is based on severity of disease.
10:00:51 So if you're seeing a ton of hospitalizations, and your case rate hasn't changed at all unless you're seeing a more severe variant which could potentially be what's going on.
10:01:02 Generally, that nature is missing. A ton of them. The other thing that we do have is is our wastewater surveillance.
10:01:09 We have that in Port Townsend, and thankfully, that's actually also down trending.
10:01:13 So the wastewater doesn't lie. And so we do think we're actually seeing our case rates go down here, which is a very different behavior
10:01:21 Great. Thank you.
10:01:23 And then there were, just, I think, that was actually most of it.
10:01:28 Oh, yeah, that's the last question was what are we gonna do for February?
10:01:33 As far as Kptc. And vocabulary, and I'm open to our our commissioners.
10:01:41 Preferences on that I lean towards sticking with twice a month through February still, the winter and weird things can happen, but potentially moving.
10:01:51 You got to monthly after that
10:01:53 Thoughts. I think twice a month sounds good. We we see a bump in participants on Zoom, at least on the weeks that you are with us.
10:02:05 So I think people are still tuning in for it.
10:02:09 I I support that. Yep, I I agree. February first.
10:02:12 First and third Mondays in February, and and and have another discussion at the end of February
10:02:18 That sounds great.
10:02:22 Thank you. Have a great
10:02:21 Thanks, Dr. Barry. Can I ask a well, we're not done yet, I was just thinking there for our time.
10:02:38 I could. I know the in in meeting most no ending meeting
10:02:36 Hi
10:02:40 I was just wondering if you could talk a little bit about China.
10:02:43 Yeah.
10:02:43 You know, I I'm really, really troubling articles about, you know the I guess the how would that?
10:02:51 The results of the 0 covid policy, and then sort of just a 100.
10:02:55 And 80 degree about face. It's seems like, and wondering what your analysis is of that, what they're doing now, and what what they should be doing are going to be doing
10:03:05 Yeah, I definitely have been hearing some concern about that as well.
10:03:10 One of the more common concerns I hear in the United States is, what does this mean for us?
10:03:16 Are we going to get new weird variants out of China, and likely no, a lot of what is driving what's going on in China is they did have a 0 covid policy for so long?
10:03:25 And so the vast majority of their country hasn't had Covid it's a very different situation than what we've seen here, and unfortunately they haven't had the level of vaccination.
10:03:35 And booster campaign that we've had, and that's, I think the end. They've been using different vaccines.
10:03:41 So we're seeing less effective vaccines, far less effective booster campaign.
10:03:46 Very little, population, immunity, and now no controls at all.
10:03:51 And that's kind of the opposite of what you would recommend.
10:03:54 I don't think it you know, for tells anything that we're going to see here because we're just in such very different situations, and I don't think there's any reason to believe
that you would see a more severe variant come out of that but you are like to see a highly transmissible
10:04:09 one, and that's consistent with what we're already seeing.
10:04:14 It's it's unfortunate, though it's it's gonna lead to far more, far more suffering than it needs to and I think it is a good reminder that when we pull back on medications doing
so any thoughtful manner a gradual manner is is much safer and you want to
10:04:34 Make sure that your population is well protected before you do so, and the people of had the opportunity to access the vaccines that are their best protection against severe
disease.
10:04:42 So very different situation there than here. But it's it's sad to see that that most suffering
10:04:49 Great, and then Mpv. Totally gone.
10:04:53 Probably not entirely gone, but we're certainly not seeing any significant transmission.
10:04:59 We actually have started in Washington doing wastewater surveillance for Mpv, because it's a rare disease.
10:05:05 So it's a it's a good one for Mp.
10:05:07 For waste water, and we're not even seeing it in the wastewater we're not testing in port towns, and but they have started pilot testing in King County and not even seeing it
there.
10:05:16 So very successful mitigation campaign. The the vaccination campaign there, as well as really good messaging and behavior, discussion within the most effective community, I
think, has really really done an excellent job at dramatically decreasing transmission of Mpv, I don't think we can say that
10:05:38 We've eradicated it. We don't have enough data to say that, but it is much, much less.
10:05:42 We do still have Mpv. Vaccine available. So if you qualify, it is still the best thing to make sure that we don't see a rebound in transmission as people start to gather again,
and it it the basic recommendations are if you qualify for prep you probably qualify
10:05:57 For employees, you do qualify for the Mpv. Vaccine, and there's a whole bunch of other folks who qualify for Mpb. If you're wondering if you're interested, give us a call at
the Health Department.
10:06:05 We have it and get you vaccinated.
10:06:07 Great, and I guess my final question is, is, you know, Mpv.
10:06:13 Yes.
10:06:17 Hmm.
10:06:12 Being renamed to a less emotional name, was, I think, a an important step and I'm just wondering how did to crack and come about?
10:06:21 Are we gonna have the King Kong next, I mean, how did this?
10:06:24 What's going on with all is that emotionally like monster names
10:06:27 Oh, gosh! I don't know. And yeah, actually, technically, the we in Washington state, we switched over to Mpv.
10:06:35 Earlier than the who did, because we really felt strongly about changing that name.
10:06:39 So the who approved name is actually now Mpox, so slightly different, than Mpv.
10:06:47 But similar idea. Same same virus that you're talking about cracking appears to be it exclusively.
10:06:54 Media driven not driven by public health or health care professionals.
10:06:59 We don't recommend using that there, but it since people are probably seeing it in the media, it's good for you to know what we're talking about, but I do think it is important
that we that we you know use as throughout this response that we use data we use reason and we don't try to
10:07:14 Motivate folks with fear. It's it sells papers, but it doesn't.
10:07:21 It doesn't actually help people make smart decisions. So
10:07:23 Okay, thank you for my wide range of questions today.
10:07:28 Any any other questions? Not for me. Okay. Well, thank you very much.
10:07:33 Dr. Barring, for for taking time out this week, and we'll see you the first Monday of February.
10:07:39 Don't know when that is. I think we did, didn't, did you?
10:07:42 Yeah, just a few.
10:07:44 And I think those were actually created by staffers at Kptz.
10:07:50 We didn't actually have any listener questions this week.
10:07:51 So. So if you have questions, you know we'd love to have the good doctor address them, so do send them in
10:07:59 Thank you. Have a great day. Everybody
10:08:00 Alright! Thanks have a great day. See you in February.
10:08:04 See you the Board of Health. Hmm, hmm! Alright.
10:08:09 Anyone need a little break before we get into the rest let's take a 5Â min recess a 7Â min recess.
10:17:55 Alright! Have a great day
10:18:01 Alright!
10:18:10 Okay, we're still recording. Welcome back calling in this meeting of the Board of County Commissioners back into session.
10:18:17 We have a ten-thirty schedule time to talk about the last Arpa dollars last, and so we have a little more time.
10:18:28 I think you were mid mid mid briefing, Kate, you want to finish up.
10:18:31 Sure. Let's see. Very good. Back to next week last week.
10:18:36 Okay. Let's see.
10:18:47 Yeah, not not much else to report from last week, like I said short week with automatic back back in the saddle this week, busy week and legislative session, which I was thinking.
10:19:01 And I. I meant to reach out to Mark or Greg on this.
10:19:05 Maybe we should put a regular time on the agenda during legislative session for legislative updates that's a great idea. Yeah.
10:19:13 Yeah, in the afternoon, I guess. Yeah, sure. Okay.
10:19:18 That's all for me. So would that be monthly
10:19:22 Probably we could. Yeah, now, things will be changing pretty quickly.
10:19:27 One thing. So what do you think? 15Â min ago.
10:19:33 Yeah, in in the afternoon. If it goes over
10:19:43 Want me to look back, please. So was with all of you guys on Monday last week, of course, and then started off Tuesday morning with the meeting with Dnr.
10:19:56 To discuss the process for doing an emergency possession of a derelict boat, and as you'll hear throughout my weekly briefing that that was very much the theme of my week last
week they're like festival removal.
10:20:11 So super grateful for the colleagues at Dnr.
10:20:15 Who know that every single step in the process, and there is a boat that has been abandoned under the Indian Island bridge for about a month, and these King tides have just
been kind of tearing it apart.
10:20:30 And so there's another king tide coming next week.
10:20:33 So just getting increasingly concerned about it is right, very near the uprights for the bridge, and lot of lot of different concerns about marine traffic.
10:20:43 All that. So we did take emergency possession of that boat and I'll update you more.
10:20:51 Yeah, it went really fast. So it's not out of the water yet, though literally and figuratively, we took possession.
10:21:02 It's in the midst of being literally. And then Tcc meeting on Tuesday afternoon, flowing right into a behavioral health advisory committee meeting and Wednesday man with the
constituents.
10:21:19 Just wanna say a shout out for Bar Barbara. You're like, man.
10:21:23 I just whenever I have a question land use, related I. If I, if I think to call her and have a chat, it is really helpful.
10:21:32 So I had a good meeting with her Wednesday morning last week, had a long anticipated meeting with Sheriff Noel in the afternoon, just to go over a parking lot of issues from
chemical school districts to Indians.
10:21:52 To. We just talked talk for a long, good, long hour, and over hour and a half, and super grateful for his insight and leadership as our sheriff, Olympic discovery trail meeting
on Wednesday evening, and then Thursday morning Woke up with another call about
10:22:13 That derelict boat, just trying to understand. I I I took this on in my role as an Mrc.
10:22:20 Member, and in understanding that the State doesn't have jurisdiction over the waters, and the county was the best potential partner, because it wasn't on.
10:22:34 It wasn't on anyone's lands who had clear authority to remove the boat, but counties have the authority to do an emergency possession of derelict vessels, so that's my third
day update on that project.
10:22:47 We take it the weekend, though, had a good meeting with Apple on some behavioral health stuff that's going on around the Cares program.
10:22:55 There's been quite a little boiling pot of kind of controversy over the new Cares program that the fire department is rolling out we just got an update that they're on the road
today.
10:23:09 6 referrals. So I have a number of meetings coming up over the next 10 days about that program.
10:23:18 But I think it. It's promises to be a really valuable program.
10:23:23 We just need to understand where the points of conflict are working on the trust land transfer program.
10:23:33 There's a bill. There's a policy Bill and the Legislature and it just got introduced last week, and then we also have a 25 million dollar capital budget request.
10:23:44 So I will be going down to Olympia at the end of the month to talk to our legislators about those 2 pieces.
10:23:51 Policy and funding attended the Clleam County Ltac meeting.
10:23:58 At the request of Commissioner Johnson and just because he wanted to kind of compare notes with other jurisdictions about how their L tech programs work, and that my epiphany
in that meeting was that and column, county they use some of their el tech funding to fund public works working
10:24:17 On the Olympic Discovery Trail. And I emailed Monty instantly and said, Have we ever done that?
10:24:23 And he said, no, so it might be something we want to put in our back pocket for the future with El tech funds.
10:24:29 If what was the oversubscription rate for those funds this year?
10:24:34 30%. I think, yeah, I know there's always more. There's always more.
10:24:40 But if there was a compelling need from public works for funding some of the expansion of the trail might be, I use, like good use of the funds, and if we continue to see the
increase in L tech funding that we've seen right you know, so I attended on
10:24:58 Thursday evening. I did not attend the meeting about the golf course, but I did attend the Washington State Fairies Community meeting, and it was interesting.
10:25:09 I it was there, you know, Statewide community meeting, and a lot of people were there, and I was just.
10:25:15 I haven't been. Buying very close to the the conversations about fairies, but I was interested to hear when they thought that we would get our second very back, and and a couple
of other things.
10:25:28 I'm kind of been curious about there. Their plan for electrification and the fleet, and so they have 3 of the Jumbo Max Ferry scheduled for electrification.
10:25:39 In the next few years, and somebody, I think it may be I even typed the question in the chat about how much
10:25:48 How much could we save the ferry system financially, with electrification?
10:25:55 And they said, those 3, Jumbo, Max fairies, would save 25% of their fuel Bill so I don't know what the offsetting electrical bill will be, or what you know.
10:26:05 But the the those Jumbo Max varies are a huge fuel drain for the ferry system, and that was interesting to me.
10:26:13 I didn't. I couldn't have imagined that of the 21 fairies in the fleet, that 3 would use 25% of the fuel let's see what else.
10:26:22 And then they did say that we're like they were talking about the the runs that are gonna get back to their normal service.
10:26:29 There's been a few runs that have been impacted by a losses, loss of one vessel, and I think we're second in mind to get ours back.
10:26:37 The first was okay, was it Michael Tio? Maybe so.
10:26:47 Given that the service in the Service Restoration Plan put out last year.
10:26:55 We were second to last. But is that because you mean because Bainbridge Kingston, and Bremerton have been restored, that now there's only a couple before us?
10:27:04 I wrote this down. So when will the service? When will the vessels be restored?
10:27:08 And they're gonna come back. And there's 3.
10:27:10 Oh, we're in last, and we're last in line.
10:27:13 These, the same fairies will come back in this order. The triangle routes, which is the portraiture yeah, then the Burmerton route, and then port towns and Coopville.
10:27:27 So we're last in line. I'm glad I took notes, and then as well, yeah, I took a took a bunch of us.
10:27:33 It was interesting. You know. I I've always been a proponent of stewardship. Right?
10:27:40 Fix it before you replace it. If you can and that sounds like they're really going that route and trying to maintain the vessels that they have instead of proposing to build
them new ones.
10:27:50 They are proposing the build new ones, but they're also investing deeply and stewarding their existing fleet and maintaining that stewardship of the fleet enables them to maintain
levels of service, right that they wouldn't otherwise be able to maintain although we need new boats.
10:28:08 for backup. Oh, you know, to have more in the fleet for backup, for when you know Kingston Admins just hit a log, and they're propellers out so day before yesterday. Oh, wow!
Yeah, and the port towns and run is the is the wild West run of the of the of the
10:28:28 Fle, you know we lose our service quite frequently. So, yeah, so that I mean, I know, I think, in a conversation with Mr.
10:28:42 Tier, I think from the very advisory committee talking about I think there was legislation that required all fairies to be Washington built, and that that is doubles the price
of failure.
10:28:48 I don't know but it in substantially increases.
10:28:51 The cost is. You know, something that they're looking at legislatively or administratively, it didn't come up.
10:28:59 No, I didn't hear that it's always, always an issue.
10:29:03 But I think for the most recent bidding it was, did not the the really vigor is the only one in Washington who can do it.
10:29:13 So it's really kind of a single source right contracting system, too.
10:29:17 But they were unable to even get close to the, and so there there is a threshold by which you can go national for that bidding which happened with our fairies.
10:29:26 That was more timing issue, that the bigger could not build.
10:29:30 And so they're able to get them built on the east coast, and that that's happened with the most recent.
10:29:33 Very out to bed as well. Okay, you know, wrapping up my week, we're up to Friday.
10:29:42 Had a good meeting with the Donna, etc. From the leader I think she's meeting with all of us just to get to know, as she realized she had never met us in person.
10:29:52 So that was nice. Went to the Wassac Legislative Update meeting.
10:29:59 There was a lot everyone, all of them reported out, and I did not take good notes on that one because it was just a lot of information so fast.
10:30:10 Yeah, they had 5 people doing updates. And it was only an hour meeting.
10:30:17 So I can go back and watch it finished my all the published courses of my certified public official, 27 courses, now of certified public official course.
10:30:28 Work finished up all the available courses once one more chapter, and we'll be certified.
10:30:33 So they'll be interested to see what they publish next yeah.
10:30:40 And then, as I mentioned over the weekend, I spend some time out on the site where the Derek vessel is.
10:30:47 The with getting right of entry from the private landowners who own those Tidelands, and visiting with them, and then the crew that's gonna remove that boat had to go in on
Saturday and Sunday to rig the boat for L a lift and on Wednesday
10:31:06 Morning I will be joining vessel, assist, and early in the morning, at the crack of before the crack of Don, to do the lift of the boat, and hopefully it goes smoothly, and
then it will be taken to star marine where it has to sit on the hard for 30 to 60 days while
10:31:21 We're in possession of it. So there's a lots of forms I will be filing, and we will be paying for this procedure.
10:31:31 But then it'll be completely reimbursed by the State.
10:31:33 Derek vessel removal program. So I'll be working with Mark and Carolyn on the contracting.
10:31:40 Billing it for that. But yeah, just. And I, you know, as I was over the weekend looking at, I think I was looking at Facebook or something and seeing people post boats sinking
at near the Irondale Beach Park, and I was just like you know, I feel like it's this is
10:31:57 The beginning, but I mean a number of counties have taken on Derlick vessel removal, and through their Mrcs. And I've talked with Monica about it.
10:32:07 I'm Rc. We don't really have the capacity as it is to be the lead for Derek vessel removal, but when there are ones like this that are really in a channel, stand to take out
a bridge, you know, those kinds of things when it really is an
10:32:24 emergency. I am now that I know how to do it.
10:32:26 I may be willing to raise my hand and say, Okay, okay, let's do that one.
10:32:30 But it's it's not something I want to be my full time job.
10:32:34 Working, board, indeed! Yeah, I'm glad you're not actually cranking, cranking it out of the water.
10:32:40 And that's what they're gonna have to do.
10:32:40 Wednesday morning. Didn't didn't dnr.
10:32:43 Get an increase in funding for their program. And I think that's why they still have money left in this biennial budget to give us money to take this vote out.
10:32:52 But so they will pay for it, regardless if it's on Dnr.
10:32:58 Tied lands or not, or regardless, if they have jurisdiction or not, if they have the funding right because they've run out of funding before, and there's also Federal funding
right now through the Northwest Straits Commission that potentially if this Dnr Pot of funding
10:33:15 Couldn't reimburse us. We could have gone to that.
10:33:18 That's how this boat got flag was through the northwest straight.
10:33:23 Hmm. We created a subconscious of the Mrc.
10:33:26 To respond to the Northwest Straits Funding opportunity, and that this came up through that subcommittee meeting that this boat was no one had clear kind of jurisdiction over
it.
10:33:36 Yeah, it just seems like this is gonna continue to be such an issue and it's a bit of a broken windows issue.
10:33:44 Like, if people just start seeing boats, you know, kind of yeah abandoned.
10:33:48 And then like like, it'd be nice to have incentives to to be those boats into recycling, or you know something before the best option is to abandon that out in the water and
there is all this problem without any option kind of caretaker for it dnr does have the vessel
10:34:07 turn in program. And that's what you know. Responsible boat owners, if they can't deal with their boat, can turn it in well, good!
10:34:17 And that's usually the first step but this boat was already floating in the water, and now there's lots of questions about how it got free.
10:34:27 And anyway, where do they turn them in locally? What's the nearest?
10:34:31 Well, they normally go to the Porta Port Townsend for deconstruction, for salvage, so the port does that in their long term storage yard which is the yard right by the port
towns, and brewing where you see both set for years at a time sometimes those
10:34:46 Are the boats that they put up for auction, and then they can use that yard to do some deconstruction.
10:34:56 So sometimes you'll see them chunking up boats and putting them in big trash dumpsters, and how much is this process gonna cost?
10:35:04 You know it's great to the premise I'm just curious. The the high, the shoot for the moon.
10:35:10 Highest number I could get was $30,000, but and is that with the yeah?
10:35:19 So that's that's the outside. But I mean, it's it's I.
10:35:24 I had a moment this weekend where I was really angry because I felt like I was watching these young divers in the why they looked young.
10:35:33 Yeah. Divers in the water. It's freezing cold out, you know.
10:35:37 They're they're rigging. They're literally swimming around and and strapping this boat.
10:35:41 And I'm like, Okay, so they're in one of the most active channels in our county.
10:35:45 They're they're basically risking their life because somebody couldn't be responsible for their boat.
10:35:52 And you know it's it is gonna happen more and more, and hopefully, we'll only be called in to be, you know, the response of the adults in the room when it's really a critical
issue like this one was well, I want to hear the rest of your week but it is 30 so maybe we'll take a little pause.
10:36:09 On, that yeah. Very fascinating. The end of my week. Okay? Great.
10:36:14 Well, well, times, so we'll move on to our scheduled 1030 of talking about priorities for allocating remaining Arpa County upper dollars.
10:36:23 Mark, you want to tee this up
10:36:26 Right. Well, last week, commissioners, we had a discussion about the remaining Arpa phones, and we discussed 3 projects in particular.
10:36:38 During that meeting Commissioner Dean, said that she would like to see a process and some priorities that the Board could agree on before distributing any more funds other than
the 100,000 that went to sell county broadband, and so Commissioner Brothers in volunteered to
10:36:58 Draft some priorities for the board to consider, and those are attached to the agenda.
10:37:03 Request this morning, and so, Commissioner, brother 10, I'll turn it over to you to discuss the priorities you've developed great, thank you.
10:37:11 And you know many, many people had their hands on this and passed to the other commissioners through Mr.
10:37:15 Mccoy as well, so it's had your eyes on it.
10:37:18 But you know this. This is an idea. It's it's kind of it's sort of it feels half formed.
10:37:25 And I I think there's there's likely some personal county project that I might bring forward to, so I guess I just want to really talk about this being a very open open process,
and and just you know, really a last call for our our kind of our public assistance dollars from arpa and love to get
10:37:45 your guys feedback on anything we need to add or emit from this before we post this in in our paper around
10:37:54 And I would just say, I'm I'm glad we're doing this now, and I wish we'd done it.
10:37:58 The middle of 2,021 when we were, you know, figuring out what we're going to spend all the money on.
10:38:03 But I guess because I hadn't been part of the cares process.
10:38:06 I didn't feel like there had been a process for prioritizing and you know I'm I'm glad we're doing this.
10:38:12 So I you know that's my overarching comment.
10:38:15 But this is not a normal, Rp process. I want to be clear to and try to really focus.
10:38:23 I think, reflecting, our conversation on this is a qualitative award that we are going to make based on.
10:38:29 You know what we think is, gonna do the most good for Jefferson count pretty much
10:38:39 So I, one of my edits, was the the desire to name this just because so that we're clear in our when we talk about it.
10:38:51 So, and I threw out last call is just something funny, but I like I meant that more as a name, not a process so like I might say, like last call funding or like cause we actually
haven't done a call for proposals. So I don't want to call it the
10:39:05 Last call for proposals, but, like last call funding sure.
10:39:10 So just add in the word funding after last call in the title.
10:39:16 Sure, I mean I I don't mean to, but we're doing off and no, it doesn't matter.
10:39:26 I just yeah, I think as it stands now, it's not accurate, because we haven't done a previous one just thinking how to differentiate cares Arpa.
10:39:29 And now this fun, this this part of funding so.
10:39:35 But probably open to a change of name on that.
10:39:38 It was just. But this is our funding. Yeah, yeah, although it's the the last trunks that came in which is a little different than the standards our phones from the recovery
denver counties.
10:39:52 Yeah, even even that has too many names. Avenue Sharon.
10:39:58 Harpa, yeah. So at maybe last call funding just and just take out the.
10:40:07 And if we do, you know, press, release, or something we might want to explain more what that means.
10:40:12 But
10:40:16 By line, less call funding. Poc seeks proposals for remainder of Arpa phones or something.
10:40:27 Hmm, yeah, we shouldn't make a press release.
10:40:30 Go along. This will be a legal notice is essentially what this is and what's posted on that.
10:40:35 So you want to take a stab at a at a press release. We've got it halfway. Written.
10:40:40 Sure. Yeah. Okay. So you want this in word, great check. Thanks.
10:40:47 Otherwise. I think it looks good. Thanks for incorporating my number of nitpicky edits objectively.
10:40:55 Yeah, no, they were great. So do we want to say, like on a letter of interest, do we just want to one page or 2 bits?
10:41:02 Oftentimes you provide people with
10:41:04 Slide bars. I would love it to be one page, but you know I mean, just because the people who are gonna respond to this call are, gonna say, how much information do you need?
10:41:20 You know, so it might be good to give them basic guidelines you you want to add one page letter of interest sounds good to me.
10:41:30 I mean, we don't want people to. There's we could get a 100 different proposals for this, so we don't want people putting a lot of leg work in just to see.
10:41:39 Oh, well, you've got a one in 35 chance of getting some an award.
10:41:43 So, yeah. So add the word. Submit a one page letter of interest I don't have the document one.
10:41:54 What does that mean? And including one page letter of interest project details is pretty big.
10:42:03 Do we want the letter of interest to address the project details, or do we just want a one-page letter of interest with a budget one page letter of interest, including project
details and a budget?
10:42:13 Yes, letter of interest.
10:42:19 I've just responded to a lot of proposals, including
10:42:28 Leading project, details. So we're looking for 2 pages, a budget which may be one more than one page and a one page letter of interest which includes project detail.
10:42:40 Okay. I think that is improves it.
10:42:46 I might need that wording from you again, like I just got it open.
10:42:50 Oh, Gotcha! So it would be. They're asked to submit a one page letter of interest, comma, and including project details and budget
10:43:06 We don't have a comma before, and budget that should separate that from the letter of interest
10:43:12 And then the title is now last call funding. Oh, you want to call it no last call or for funding, or I mean, that's cool, you see.
10:43:26 Accepting proposals or remainder of our phones
10:43:34 I can bring this back
10:43:38 Okay, we might get out of a little early, too.
10:43:44 So, or we can. I mean, this is something pretty easy enough to, I think, we'll have time this afternoon to edit it, but I'd love to get it get it done today so we can get it
posted in and for timely response before the thirty-first I just think and any additional
10:43:57 Priorities or criteria would be helpful, in for us to to narrow down.
10:44:03 Do you have some so
10:44:11 And I think it, you know, doing wanna talk about kind of capital projects or lasting you know, more durable benefit, or I I mean, I I look at the digital navigator program is
something that isn't necessarily durable, or lasting.
10:44:31 But I understand. They ask, and I think it's a it's.
10:44:35 It's a great ask. And some of these projects I don't know it.
10:44:39 It's durability, or being a capital project isn't the only looking homes connected to Internet.
10:44:45 It's important. Yeah, but it's not a capital one that has lasting impact, though, like helping homes find affordable service and get service if they haven't had it like that
is, I mean, yeah, you think I mean it says the Bse is looking for projects that move the need on
10:45:06 Housing, economic development and public benefit in Jefferson County.
10:45:08 You're not kind of captures that it captures everything, though I just think it's helpful for us to be able to refer to this and say, this is what we you know.
10:45:22 I think we're gonna be inundated with a lot of really important proposals.
10:45:28 And it's gonna be hard to narrow it unless we give ourselves some criteria.
10:45:35 I I mean I'm almost afraid to make it a more specific filter, because then, if we get one that really peaks our interest, and we think even though that's kind of outside, we
really should do that.
10:45:47 And then people are gonna like, well, mine, you know, was a capital improvement.
10:45:50 It hit all your price squarely, so I would prefer to leave it fairly flexible and leave it at our just okay.
10:45:58 I I support that and I think it was important we put in that we would be assessing them.
10:46:03 Call it quantitative qualitatively, because we ran into that with the Housing fund for just we pretend like it's really subjective, and can school can be scored.
10:46:14 It's objective. Sorry my words are failing me, that it's yeah.
10:46:20 There's lots of pitfalls. Yeah, no, for sure.
10:46:24 And it's I know it's it's it's different than we've done it before, too.
10:46:26 So you know, it's giving people clear parameters is really helpful.
10:46:32 But we are asking, you know, this is our outside the box funding.
10:46:36 So I I would love to not corral it. Yeah, okay, and it'll just make it more challenging for us, of course.
10:46:43 But yeah, and we will. We will take public comment on this before we take any action.
10:46:48 And I think we're going to take action later. After you do a little bit more word smithing and come up with a press release to a company.
10:46:54 We could, since we had it on the agenda, for now we could just put up the edits and have this be our the guiding document that we take public comment from.
10:47:02 We don't. We don't need public comment for for sure. Okay, well, let's put that. Do you have it in the place that you can share it.
10:47:10 Yeah. Let's see, minor edits. Yup. Alright, so I will.
10:47:16 I will turn to the public now and say, we have this before us, and we would love to get your input before we take final action on posting this.
10:47:29 This this funding opportunity in our paper of record, and on.
10:47:34 So anyone today that would like to make a public comment. You can click the raise hand button.
10:47:40 I don't think they have any folks on the phone, and no one in the in the chambers with us.
10:47:45 So if you do have public comment, please indicate by clicking, raise hand
10:47:53 Okay, see? No. No raise hand. I don't think we have any public comment on this.
10:48:02 So nice call funding, Usc. Accepting proposals for me.
10:48:08 Yep, I move that we approve these guidelines as of. We approvely approved these guidelines and release them to the public
10:48:20 For distributing their remainder Arpa funds.
10:48:23 I'll second that. Okay, it's been moved and seconded.
10:48:27 There's no further questions or comments, all in favor of the motion on the floor indicate by saying, Aye, alright! That motion passes.
10:48:35 We'll get that going, and love to see the press release.
10:48:37 But even if it doesn't happen today, that's okay.
10:48:40 But you can reach it out
10:48:45 Would be going out to 20. Fifth, yeah? And actually
10:48:51 So the very first one
10:48:58 Okay.
10:48:58 So we want to extend that yeah, I feel like that's not. I mean, it's not a big proposal.
10:49:07 But we want to make sure that people have the opportunity to through the community.
10:49:11 So we make a modification. How about February?
10:49:15 The second.
10:49:16 Second Monday.
10:49:23 What about February tenth, yeah, I mean, we've got no no reason not to give them enough time right?
10:49:29 There's no way no, there's urgency dollar request.
10:49:32 But yeah, February tenth. Sounds good to me.
10:49:35 End of day, February tenth, so just occurred to me that 835 depends on the 1.6 9 2 being received, so it may be that we should put some language in here conditional upon additional
upon which receipt of the funds right some of the awards may
10:49:58 be conditional upon we're actually receiving the second tranche.
10:50:03 Just putting a disclaimer in there that that makes sense. Sorry.
10:50:14 I didn't think about that sooner, or we can't get it in today, anyway.
10:50:17 Should we figure out? Can you make a sentence for that?
10:50:22 For after after lunch, and we'll sure and we'll get that added in and change it to February tenth.
10:50:28 After lunch. That sound? Good. Yeah, although you're not gonna know about that funding for months.
10:50:36 So how do we I mean, if you have a a time critical.
10:50:39 Funny, I mean they would they? I don't know. Time time of funding is dependent on future receipts of, and it may be the time sensitive projects.
10:50:56 For example, the request from Tampa, Dr. Meredith for the digital navigator.
10:51:02 They have a person on board they'd like to keep so if we give her 35,000 in September, that's not gonna help.
10:51:09 So that needs to factor into our decision process somehow.
10:51:13 Yep. Okay, that's yeah. Thank you. Good point. Glad you thought of that.
10:51:17 Okay, so we'll likely make a new motion. Amending this, this document
10:51:25 I don't think we have to repeal it.
10:51:31 You'll save that
10:51:35 Okay, great. Well, you know, iterative progress.
10:51:43 Okay. So I guess this takes us back to briefing if there's nothing else to discuss on this, I think you did.
10:51:51 You finish? Heidi? Yeah, I finished. All right, although my morning started very early this morning, so yeah, we should maybe talk about that as a topic that we did receive
some public comment on before we break for lunch, too.
10:52:07 Because there's a we're in common coming on us to at least say, Hey, what's up?
10:52:12 Yeah, but I will go through my week first, and then maybe we can talk about calendaring.
10:52:16 And bring that issue up. Let's see, was with all of you on Monday, and, as I said, I did have lunch with botanist, where he talked about reasons for resigning from the Housing
Fund Board, and you know supported the work.
10:52:32 We're doing, you know, had had personal reasons and and frustrations with some of our bureaucracies, and and being a bureaucrat himself, I think it was just not a good fit.
10:52:43 Ultimately, but stays as available as a resource because he does have a lot of of deep knowledge.
10:52:51 Having run the Snowish 1,000 authority, for you know, decades so great Guy, and sorry to see him go. Sorry.
10:52:56 See on your go, but she does serve on on some other.
10:53:00 She's on Behavioral Health Committee and and and commit behavioral health consortium and and other groups there.
10:53:08 So it's great to still have her met with some folks about the Wilson Community Center on Tuesday, and had the agenda setting meeting for the Board of Health.
10:53:17 Then we had our first
10:53:22 Quilting our second quilse in Brennan Empowered Teens.
10:53:26 Coalition meeting of the of the year, doing great there, really appreciate the works of our of our coordinator, Holly Orca.
10:53:34 I think I told you last week what going on with Orca doing a 360 evaluation of our nearly year old new executive director going great, really enjoying the process.
10:53:45 The the chairs kind of guiding us through that. So we're having our long interviews with each of the each of the managers and directors, and then we had a staff comment session
after our our normal orca meeting on on Wednesday as well, I miss the second strategic planning for
10:54:02 The Olympic Peninsula tourism Strategic plan that where we put $10,000 into, and I think I'm passing that on to hiding now to take to take that group as they go into.
10:54:16 This was just working on the Rfp. For a consultant to create that strategic plan.
10:54:20 But since Heidi's taken over tourism at Tcc, as well as El Tac, it seems like natural to be in her.
10:54:27 Ballywick met with Peggy Webster from the Housing Fund Board, as well.
10:54:35 Exciting opportunities from HUD. They've got some technical assistance funds for folks that are in economic opportunity zones, many of our, you know, Port Hadlock specifically,
is in an economic opportunity zones kind of first come first serve funds.
10:54:53 But we put in a request to be considered for that.
10:54:56 So we're in the queue. At least cool.
10:54:59 Is that only kept applying for those or the accounting.
10:55:03 The Housing Fund Board specifically I mean, we've talked about staff and capacity and helping us refine our Rfp.
10:55:10 Process. So our specific request was, we need staff capacity expertise to to refine our Rfp process.
10:55:16 Great have the only Cap Board meeting. Wednesday. We do have a new finance director, I think our report is about a month in now, really exciting to be fully staffed in the finance
department.
10:55:29 We have a new pro chair of the board, and a king is works up into the college and the former staff.
10:55:35 We're at Holy Cap in the early childhood education.
10:55:38 She's in Port Angeles, and she's great.
10:55:40 I am the treasurer now, so I'll deal a little bit more with our new finance team.
10:55:45 Hmm! Thursday we had 2 more Orca meetings, one they're doing a compensation study with a great consultant firm.
10:55:57 Yeah, it's going. Well, yeah, be clear. Orca being the cleaner agency.
10:56:04 Thank you. Yes, not. Yeah. Yeah. No. They're all volunteers. Yeah.
10:56:14 Orca, the Clean air agency, all of these these reports and then join Mark for an inner gov update from Dcd and environmental Public Health and I think a lot of progress is being
made a lot of excitement about it.
10:56:20 Still possible application of some of those Arpa funds, because there is, I think, issues that are staff are not well equipped to deal with.
10:56:32 We have a new database manager, and that's great Scott!
10:56:35 Then Africa is. But there is some significant data scribbling issues that happen in our conversion.
10:56:43 You guys might be aware, too, but I heard at least 3 staff members say, you know, we're planners.
10:56:50 We're not database managers, and they're all in this position of of the trend.
10:56:56 The conversion from tide mark to intergo was not pain-free, and there's a lot of inconsistencies that need to get worked out, and we might need to.
10:57:05 As some consultant capacity. I think once Scott digs into it a little more, will know, but I I feel like we should.
10:57:11 We should be prepared to to bolster that effort just to make sure that they deal with intergavin, that they're not having to deal with the data scrubbing outside of their job
description and expertise
10:57:27 That would. Then I I was so. What will be the next step on that Scott's kind of digging into it?
10:57:34 He's so new that I think until we have an actual recommendation.
10:57:37 Correct me if I'm wrong. I just wanted to kind of put a PIN in it and say, this seems to be a gap that you know we might be able to help with.
10:57:43 But, mark you, wanna add some more
10:57:50 So stayed with Mark, and we joined John Moore for Brooklyn Bureauucracy on Kp. Dz.
10:57:58 At 1230. I listen. That was okay. Great. Would you guys talk about?
10:58:02 You know I forgot to talk about the pit, count.
10:58:05 I was said I was going to. I think I've now I better write a letter to the editor for the point in time, count.
10:58:09 But what do we talk? We talked about a little bit about city a little bit of all golf courses and public processes, because they just had that that big meeting.
10:58:16 We talked about the port headlock sewer as being one of the big projects for county coming up and talked about our upcoming strategic planning process and our effort to secure
a consultant to help us prepare a community wildfire protection plans okay, yep kept it mostly
10:58:35 On policy, but it was good. I was not offered any coffee.
10:58:39 I'm not sure where they get the name, but I did not get any coffee didn't it start as a beer thing? Oh, oh, is that the brew?
10:58:47 Yeah, you're when it was Hatch. I think it was in the late afternoon and it was a fair thing.
10:58:52 Okay? Why I didn't get offered to be 1010, 30 in the morning.
10:58:59 Well, it's 1230, that's and then didn't talk a little bit with, Ken. Some of the other Kptz people about a similar sort of program with the county, so keep plumbing that depth.
10:59:14 And and you know something that we, you know I can imagine a road rotating, Commissioner kind of heading one up, you know, at a more appropriate time to have a beer.
10:59:24 I guess if if anyone wants to go out at 5 Am.
10:59:27 On Wednesday to look at the derelict vessel.
10:59:29 Removal process from Kpc I don't think I don't think our team wants that, but you should get some pictures and bring them back.
10:59:40 You want to take that
10:59:47 And then stayed with with Mark and the and the city folks, and we went, and the Kpt folks to go up to Morgan Hill and toward the site where we supported the building of a tower
for resilient system, and all seems to go well, and I think Mark and I both enjoyed not having
11:00:04 Any decision points in that process. Yeah, that looks cool. You guys got a lot to talk about with the city, met the builder they've got.
11:00:12 They've got a contractor. So that's great is that in permitting no, it's not even a primitive they were just setting up.
11:00:19 They've done a cam a couple of years ago with the C and so they're doing.
11:00:23 I think the Pre application process now. So they they were kind of setting that up.
11:00:27 Steve King was there as well. Hmm! So that's moving along.
11:00:32 And then met with Mark for some agenda planning for today and then we had the behavioral health consortium meeting where we I'm not voting member of it.
11:00:42 But we do have that that 1 million dollar grant that goes for substance use disorder essentially opioid response.
11:00:50 And so there are 2 requests that we had talked about last month in kind of kicked up the storm a little bit that Heidi referenced.
11:00:58 One of them was the carriers program that is operational now is asking for additional funds, and the other was on a call hand, who was is consulting with the county and holy
cap, and expanding Naloxone.
11:01:10 Program that she's had. That's been very successful.
11:01:11 So we kind of had AD hoc presentations at last.
11:01:17 Months, bhc, so this month we had. We had question and answer period for those, both those proposals, and then votes will being sent out to the voting members of the consortium.
11:01:25 After that I'm an ex officio member as as part of the county team, right?
11:01:31 So that 1 million dollar grant is that part of the Opioid settlement?
11:01:33 No, that was prior to that. Okay, that's nothing to do with that.
11:01:36 We're still this next next week at the veil this week.
11:01:41 This week at the Sailors. Behavioral health. Yes, this week we're gonna be going over those rules that I think are starting to be made so I'll probably have more to report report
about that opiate settlement next month.
11:01:52 And where did the 1 million dollar Grant come from?
11:02:04 Yeah. Better. Room. Yep, federal. Thank you.
11:02:09 Just Jefferson County. Yes. Good. Yeah. And much more significant than the Opioid settlement, one, which is, you know, 70 grand a year for 17 years, basically
11:02:21 So sorry.
11:02:28 Then I got a briefing. On Friday, the thirteenth, from Josh Peters, about a difficult land.
11:02:37 Use case in District 3, and we'll reach out to those landowners.
11:02:41 Soon had another Orca cleaner agency meeting, and then got into paperwork and totally missed the legislative update, and then went to the point in time training with old account
good team getting set up.
11:02:55 January twenty-sixth Market Calendars is the point in time, count, and then we get a couple of days after that, for like food banks the following week.
11:03:03 But it's where. Where did you sleep on the night of January 20, sixth?
11:03:07 And it's really critical, you know. You can't manage it if you can't measure it.
11:03:09 So this is a really our effort to measure it. We've redone the the form that comes from commerce to reflect some of the more the nuance in housing instability that might not
show up as unsheltered in the point in time, count, but is still folks that are living in
11:03:26 Unsatisfactory and really main housing. So you don't do the count on the twenty-sixth, because that's the night that they're supposed you're asking them about.
11:03:34 You do it on the twenty-sixth. I think I'm gonna try to go out with our navigator.
11:03:38 Actually, to some of that, you know. Yeah. But then we have the ability to follow up the phone week like a food banks that happen on different days just to say, where were you
on this.
11:03:53 Now it's the data that we're collecting is, where did you sleep on January the twentieth?
11:04:00 So? How? How does that capture like say, you hear a lot about students in the schools who are crashing on somebody's couch, who are technically homeless, have no housing security.
11:04:14 Let me just bring up the form that we're using. And and do the schools have an opportunity to provide input because they are reaching out to the schools
11:04:28 One moment.
11:04:37 Oops! Sorry. Didn't come prepared just a moment. Dead time.
11:04:43 Oh, my goodness! Dead air! It's good! We're not on Shp TV anymore. I think that we we like to think people hang on our words much more than they actually do.
11:04:55 Yeah.
11:04:59 Alright!
11:05:03 Shall I just share this? You want to look at it? Sure.
11:05:07 And do they need more volunteers? Yes, anyone that is interested in volunteering on the 20 sixth.
11:05:16 There's a training this Wednesday you can reach out to Alison.
11:05:23 Add on me? Sure! Yes.
11:05:32 Bye.
11:05:34 Sorry.
11:05:38 A Arthur A. A. R. T. H. U. r@onlycap.org.
11:05:44 If anyone is interested in helping out, and there is a training, this Wednesday.
11:05:50 But you can, you don't have to attend the training this Wednesday, that is, tomorrow.
11:05:56 But all are welcome, and there's opportunities to, you know.
11:06:01 Be at the food banks or the community sitting in the Tri area or at the warming shelter.
11:06:06 You know, they're really trying to go where people are.
11:06:08 The Recovery cafe may zoom in on this a little bit.
11:06:12 Does this sync at all with the coordinated entry, where it does, counting people once.
11:06:22 And yes, I mean it's you really have to capture names.
11:06:26 I mean, it's not directly connected, because you can go through the coordinated entry.
11:06:29 The Hmi system, and you know that's one thing.
11:06:33 But this doesn't presume that you would go through that process.
11:06:37 So some people an opportunity to make sure anyone with it is being counted as yes, perhaps at least entered into that system initially.
11:06:47 Yeah, see that perfect. This is the form
11:06:56 When we were circles instead of checks, you know you have to get this information really accurately collected.
11:07:02 Sometimes checks were vague enough that it was challenging for to interpret, you know, volunteers, answers
11:07:13 It's kind of script built into it.
11:07:19 That's some of the modifications we've made, and you see where a lot of redundancy, and trying to see if this person had already been captured
11:07:33 And there's, of course, opportunities for complete anonymity.
11:07:36 If they are fleeing, domestic violence.
11:07:44 So I'm I'm sorry. Can you go up again of the blue box?
11:07:49 I'm just thinking, hearing frequently about kids can surfing.
11:07:54 Well, parents are in kind of more typical house, homeless, right?
11:08:00 Is there a way to capture that I've just heard from the schools that that is a very common scenario kids couch surfing well, parents are maybe in cards or shelters or parents
unhoused?
11:08:17 I mean, I think you would capture, like the household member.
11:08:20 I think it would be a separate form for your kid if they were sleeping at a different situation, could still fill it out.
11:08:27 You know they might be the couch surfing which would go down to which is not captured by by the point in time.
11:08:33 Count officially, but we're trying to get that information.
11:08:36 Where is number 6? Say, family sleeping separate or something? I mean, yeah, because right above the blue box question number 3, how many, including yourself?
11:08:44 How many adults and children are there in your household?
11:08:47 We're sleeping in the same location, but I think, slipping a separate locations is fairly typical.
11:08:52 Yeah, yeah, that's let me
11:09:01 Still we are make. This is our own constraint. Locally, or all the caps with with input from all the stakeholders that have participated.
11:09:08 So, yeah, still modifiable. And then page 2,
11:09:20 Sorry on top. Page 2,
11:09:30 I guess that 5 Number 5 kind of captures that as anyone in the household been without housing for more than a year, it doesn't delineate the difference that you're talking about,
though
11:09:40 I'm just always impressed the information the school has on.
11:09:44 Yeah, schools have on kids that are, it's harder to capture it's from other data sets totally.
11:09:50 And often. That's how we've known that our numbers at the point in time count, are don't really represent the the true problem, you know, because we see more homeless reported
in the schools than we do.
11:10:02 Yeah. Yeah. And with the stigma associated, not sure at all.
11:10:09 Hmm! And then always an opportunity to engage folks with services if they're interested, and then you see, there is a place for the coordinated entry number.
11:10:19 The hmi is okay. So it's kind of to it. But it's not a real requirement.
11:10:24 And then this system does go into, not necessarily according
11:10:31 What a great opportunity to get some other folks into that system!
11:10:36 The future ease of services. Absolutely. Hmm. Okay.
11:10:42 So that was last week, and I did a little bit on Monday to we, as I mentioned before, sometimes it's tough for people to work meet on committees during the week, so we met on
Martin Luther King Day to talk about the onboarding or board of health members our
11:11:04 Clerk there Glenn pared a great document.
11:11:06 So that was our our working document that we've got some recommendations for coming forward that I'll bring to Board of Health this week, and then I had the the Northwest Canal
Chamber of Commerce meeting Monday nights and really a lot of lot of Energy in that Group
11:11:20 Dan ventura is the chair. Who's been we've just appointed a Tcc.
11:11:24 And a really, they're working on a quill scene.
11:11:26 Brennan map like a tourist map with advertisers on it, and and really looking to provide services for members.
11:11:34 And I think we had 20 people, 20 members in the audience yesterday.
11:11:38 So it was really well attended. So there's a lot of energy behind it right now.
11:11:41 Which is exciting to see, and that was my last week.
11:11:46 Mark anything you want to report on. Yeah, most of well, much of what I did has been discussed already.
11:11:54 Quickly, so Monday, with the board on Tuesday we had a risk management meeting we'll look forward to having Stacy join us next time you've appointed her to that that committee.
11:12:10 Not an 18 meeting members, and then I sat in on the Behavioral Health Advisory Committee meeting on the eleventh
11:12:24 The hiring panel for the communication specialist, and that and discuss making it offer to our to another candidate for that position.
11:12:35 And I did that on Friday, and we're in negotiations right now.
11:12:39 By fully expect her to join us in the next week.
11:12:46 And then Chris Coy and I took a tour of the abandoned
11:12:53 Elementary school, complex in in Chicago was Scott, mark the Zoo, and their facilities, person and determined it wasn't suitable for any county use.
11:13:06 And then I joined John Marl for lunch, and it just so happened that
11:13:13 Jodi Adams walked in along with Austin Watkins and the new man, and then I'm a bowling.
11:13:22 So. Now we had a couple of words with them. Got to see the baby, anyway, there, Jodi is looking great, and then I joined the North Olympic Peninsula City Manager county administrator
Catchup Session here Zoom and then that meeting with Sarah Melonson Stacy
11:13:43 Praise and Judy Shepherd to discuss Cba, negotiating parameters.
11:13:49 That discussion result, a move of the executive session we had planned for today to next week
11:13:56 It's a complex topic and complicating matters is the fact that our health premium holiday, I believe, is coming to an end.
11:14:05 Oh, yeah. And so the savings we saw last year that we will not realize in 2023
11:14:12 Which is unfortunate, been on the 12 busy day
11:14:18 As Greg said, we have the undergo update. They are using intergo to perform their daily work.
11:14:23 But there are. There are challenges, as there are with any new software implementations, and in a week or 2 or 3, I I think Scott will give us his assessment, and then we'll
take it from there, based on recommends then, of course, Kptz, that was a nice visit and agenda
11:14:45 Planning following that, and then I met with a number of county administrator and manager types.
11:14:53 Washac, once a quarter has an Arpa administration meeting with Staff to talk about various and Arpa topics, and the big one was how to survive the State Auditor Audit, and I
think our audit is going to be clean as it relates, to Arpa funding for
11:15:12 2021,
11:15:14 Hopefully we'll have that out brief before too long. And then a weekly update with Brent bought later, and then on Friday 2 staff updates regular meeting with Apple Martin and
another one with Chris.
11:15:30 So that's my great, thank you, Mark. Shall we look onward to this coming week?
11:15:40 You want to take it away, Kate? Sure
11:15:42 Hmm.
11:15:47 Nice, relatively short week but a lot packed in tomorrow morning.
11:15:55 I'm starting, and Mark Fyi gonna be meeting with Pinky and Brent to talk about the short term rentals potential policy process.
11:16:14 And I know Dcd. Is over one and so haven't wanted to kind of push that too hard.
11:16:19 But and yet another kind of angle has come in at us, which is that hip camp asked to speak with us to you all.
11:16:27 Get that letter? Yeah. Yeah. So you meeting with with Brans and Pinky before meeting with Hip camp next week?
11:16:34 Okay. So you have something scheduled. So just wanted to to see if if we're going to be taking on short term rentals, what is Ccd's capacity for that to to.
11:16:50 And then, you know, obviously, big decision point to if we want to be looking at hip camp and and similar things like that to include we don't use a bucket for doing away. Yeah,
yeah, how to be fair and safe for how that he involved how does that overlap with the work you
11:17:08 Same yeah, same. It's just kind of been on hold.
11:17:09 Because, you see, these been so busy, so swamped that we haven't been able to kind of pick up that ball and keep keep running with a lot of inquiries about yeah, it's just been
Dcds and people wanting you know, it's like from all Angles.
11:17:29 Exactly I want to do them, and they don't want their neighbor to do exactly. So. I think we would need to come up with a a plan for and when Dcd is, gonna take that on and and
stick with it, because it keeps getting pushed down the road because I mean you know
11:17:42 I mean, even then we have to do a pretty significant code change.
11:17:47 And the input we have received both from Granikus and some of their providers.
11:17:52 But then also other counties who have done it is, you have to be really careful how the process needs to be really fair and clear, and there are vested interests that will need
to have a say.
11:18:06 And so we're trying to be careful amount of public outreach.
11:18:09 Also, yeah. Samoan County, which obviously has, you know, more tourism than we do.
11:18:15 But they just went through our Us. 2 year process. So that was Joanne I think that's large, part partly.
11:18:22 Why Bob Booter didn't run yeah.
11:18:26 So more to come on that I'll let you know kind of what what kind of plan we outline.
11:18:35 And I, DC. Executive Board meeting tomorrow also, which is number things going on there. But we did.
11:18:44 I think everybody reported last week we did get spend some time with Kilmer's office talking about the recompete Grant.
11:18:49 So we'll be deciding on a kind of ramp up process for that.
11:18:54 Hopefully this month, and a couple of months ahead, hook, now coordinating council meeting, which will partly take place on my drive down to Olympia for legislative steering
committee, which is, there's a Wednesday night and Thursday hopefully.
11:19:12 Race, back in time for Board of Health Meeting. But during session I might be late for Board of Health every month.
11:19:21 So when you guys think about quorum just now that it's it's a little tricky to get back in time, and we can adjust, you know, if there's action, items, we'll just we can move
on the fly move them to the end of the okay, and I mean in theory.
11:19:37 I can call in also on my way, and be joining telephonically for right at 2 30 Friday morning Olympic Consortium board the the Workforce oversight board meets and then go.
11:19:53 Oh, it is this week, Friday. Meet with Hip camp, and that is it for my week.
11:20:01 Alright. Thank you. Well, my week started off on Sunday with another visit down to the boat salvage operation, and just I don't know.
11:20:12 I felt by doing that emergency session thing. I felt a little bit responsible.
11:20:17 So I was just I think it's going good, right? I wanna make sure I wanna make sure everything's going good the the crew that's working on it is doing an awesome job.
11:20:25 And just say that again. And I was further angry because of the situation and people having to risk their lives to deal with other people's at this point.
11:20:34 Now garbage, and so then Monday was relatively quiet on the home front.
11:20:41 I spent the day starting, I started reading a book called Horse.
11:20:44 Okay, which I recommend to anyone. It's it's about a horse.
11:20:51 The the most famous American thoroughbred in the, and his and his trainers.
11:20:58 His trainers were African-american, and lived in Kentucky, and he was owned by he was given to an African American man for payments for this free man service to this estate.
11:21:12 It's a wonderful book, and I read half of it yesterday, and it's very much about race and history and culture, and and it has.
11:21:24 It goes back and forth between the 1,800 fiftys and 2,019, and the this horse is anyway, I just recommend it.
11:21:31 So that was mlk day for me largely until the phone started.
11:21:34 Ringing off the hook last night about the penny wise timber sale. And people.
11:21:38 Yelling at me, or wanting to talk with me, I should say some heatedly that we had not held Dnr.
11:21:49 Speed to the fire about the window of operation, and if you look at the I haven't looked at the actual timber sales document, but I looked at the notice of sale, and they were
supposed to not be operating between December first and March 30 first and this entire Temp as it
11:22:07 reads. So if anyone's listing, please correct me if I'm wrong, you could do rows, I mean, that's what I thought, but they can't cut trees and they were all cut in that window
that timeframe and so and then now what I'm hearing and getting
11:22:22 photo documentation of is removal of leave trees, which is part of the sustainable harvest practices of Dnrs.
11:22:33 Forest practices that they out how good they are doing these timber costs so I don't know who cut, who cut the leaf trees, or you know, anyway, it's this conversation is just
beginning, but it makes that timber sales 98% county force board lands so those are our trees our our junior taxing
11:22:51 Districts gonna get paid for trees if they were actually stolen.
11:22:54 The lead trees cause there's rumor that what's happening is after these timber harvests.
11:23:00 People are going in and doing cleanup of leave trees as a theft operation.
11:23:07 So this I mean, I'm hearing all these.
11:23:08 If any of these things are true, it's concerning so right.
11:23:14 But I mean, if if if trees are stolen off of the Dnr.
11:23:18 Timber sale, where 98% of the revenue was coming to the county, and our juniors taxing districts.
11:23:22 We're not getting revenue for stolen trees, and so I'm just.
11:23:27 I'm you know. Anyway, the phone was ringing my hackles are my hackles are up.
11:23:33 That was Monday, and that that's the top I want to come back to, because we all got notes from some of these folks.
11:23:40 I don't think I got video video documentation.
11:23:45 Your documentation, but thinking about what what our position is, and how we should interact with Dnr.
11:23:49 Or whom whom we should interact with, is something that I don't know.
11:23:52 The answer to yeah, totally. Let's talk about that. Then.
11:24:00 Tonight I'm going to the Ports public meeting on the shirt farm at the Grange and Chimicum.
11:24:06 So just to listen and be part of the call tomorrow morning.
11:24:12 I am meeting vessels at the dock, and had lock at 5 30 to go out and see the last phase of the salvage operation.
11:24:20 Again super grateful, I mean vessel assist.
11:24:23 I call them last week, and they were on the job by Friday with a great crew of super able able-bodied semen.
11:24:32 So so anyway, is there environmental health concerns with that vessel?
11:24:37 Is it leaking? Oh, it leaked everything it's been in the water for a month through 2.
11:24:42 King. Died. Okay, so now it's more the hazards that it presents as a big, heavy thing it's been through rent and spin multiple times.
11:24:51 The concern is that if it broke free, that's right.
11:24:56 Near the uprights for the Indian Island bridge.
11:25:02 So you know it. It was a ha! Ha! Ha!
11:25:05 Hazard, in multiple ways. But yeah, unfortunately, probably most of the hazardous fluids in the boat are in our marine waters now and then for tomorrow.
11:25:17 Then I'm gonna go meet with volunteers who've been doing some kind of fire access work at Trailhead Park with Mallory and Matt Tyler just so they can lay eyes on the work that's
been done.
11:25:29 Then I'm gonna get in the car and drive to pause for the Hook canal coordinating Council meeting, because I never been to one yet.
11:25:40 I feel like it's part of my duties that I have not embrace as much because you've been our Primary Commissioner to it.
11:25:47 But I thought for the I should go. The annual meeting we're all on it.
11:25:50 So I know, yeah, there'll be little in person presence.
11:25:56 Just so, you know, almost entirely virtual. But yeah, so.
11:26:00 And then the chimic of empowered teens coalition.
11:26:03 In the afternoon, and then I'm planning on attending Barstow.
11:26:07 Bingo, Wednesday evening at the hilltop, cause I I love Barstall, big bingoes just super fun and lively Thursday morning I have a meeting with a group of citizens regarding
the forestry plan that Mallory is working on and prioritization of
11:26:26 Dnr. Lands in our County Community Foundation Board meeting.
11:26:34 Trust, land transfer, legislative session, prep meeting for a health meeting, and then th that there's the evening business after hours I'm just gonna go to that.
11:26:50 I haven't really been engaging with our business community and I was invited.
11:26:54 So I thought, I'm gonna go. Friday morning.
11:26:58 I'm gonna attend the session with Dcd.
11:27:03 Lean process for their site. Development review. League.
11:27:08 A lot of record process kind of doing a a leaning of that.
11:27:11 See how that goes. Isn't it? Jay? Okay, Jay, I'm working with Brent for over a year.
11:27:19 Then Olympic coast, marine, Sanctuary Advisory Council Meeting in the afternoon, or starting at 10, going to 2, and then potentially a meeting in with Dnr. Friday afternoon.
11:27:36 But we'll see how if I get scheduled or not.
11:27:37 Mallory is having a hard time getting that scheduled, and that is the end of my week.
11:27:44 Busy. Week. Yeah. I don't know if you guys have heard speaking of Mallory I don't know if you heard about the the massive project at the Portland airport.
11:27:57 It was a mass timber project, literally of replacing entire roof with mass timber for carbon sequestration, and that chimican Park wood is in there.
11:28:07 Yeah, yeah, they display about it. In Jefferson County.
11:28:11 And chemical Parkwood in the airport. Yeah, so cool the public should know about that.
11:28:17 Yeah, yeah, that was great. Yeah, cool. Alright. Let's see.
11:28:25 Short week. Of course, tomorrow I'm actually out of the office.
11:28:29 I'm gonna go skiing because I didn't have anything in my schedule.
11:28:33 And then Thursday meeting with the Community Conversation Committee of Housing Fund Board, and then I'm meeting with the leaders publisher as as you did last week.
11:28:46 I'm gonna step into Mark and Chris's weekly meeting on Thursday as well, and maybe we can do and talk about art.
11:28:55 We're gonna are we gonna talk? We we should. I have set up Chris with the with Jefferson Historical Society and Ellie out of the archive that that that process has begun.
11:29:06 I'm not sure for well, starting, I think the 4, the 4 shadow boxes, or whatever they are, just outside, and in the in the threshold.
11:29:15 Yeah, updating, just seeing if there might be some partnership with Jefferson.
11:29:23 Historical Society, and then we have, and we'll probably do agenda planning right after that.
11:29:30 I don't know. We don't have it on our calendar yet, and then Board of Health is Thursday, and then we have the Housing Fund Board agenda planning, and then on Friday, meeting
with the Sales Behavioral Health Administrative Service Organization at 9 then it's gonna be
11:29:49 A challenge to cause. That is the first hybrid one of theirs.
11:29:52 For a while out in Blynn, and I'm going to try to intend in person, and then, likely from my car.
11:29:56 After that meeting I will go to the the first Jefferson County kind of coordination meeting of the year, and then meeting with some housing advocates around noon here on Friday.
11:30:10 Just be warned. The coordination meeting is generally chaired by the Commissioner can be hard from the car, but might be able to stay in bland and just use their you know.
11:30:24 War walk there, either Internet for another hour. But I I will be prepared for that.
11:30:29 Thank you, and that's my week. Mark. How's your week?
11:30:34 Look fairly light on scheduled activities. Of course, today with with you free, refining folks
11:30:48 Tomorrow, a fair amount of time to work on data. Got the nulla contract.
11:30:51 I've got to finish to hopefully have it on the agenda for next Monday.
11:30:57 We're gonna have a meeting on the rate holiday for medical just to make sure we're interpreting what we're hearing correctly and what our next steps are.
11:31:06 Mark, and on that week, cause we thought it was 22 and 23.
11:31:11 The holiday right, but we also knew that it would be based on experience, and if our experience, one south of it, that that holiday might end, and so, anyway, that's what the
meeting is for.
11:31:23 Okay. But then on on Thursday, another late day.
11:31:30 But I grabbed, see that right on it.
11:31:33 Annotation for agenda, planning. Following that meeting with Chris, and the reason Greg is joining us to talk about the community center, and we'll see.
11:31:41 Hmm.
11:31:44 You need to come up with a plan for that community center
11:31:47 And then on Friday I'll be joining
11:31:52 Process, improvement workshop at Dcd. With environmental public health and Id.
11:31:57 I think you're attending that also. And then, following that, the coordination meeting and Greg will inspire or Co.
11:32:06 Collaborate on the agenda for that. Yep.
11:32:10 Great so I just started kind of looking out a little bit farther and I don't know how.
11:32:15 Who else has travel plans on the horizon? But I will be out the 20, sixth and twenty-seventh, and I it's on my calendar as such.
11:32:23 But and then I have. I think I mentioned this at once, but I I am planning on going to the Nico Legislative Conference.
11:32:36 In DC. February tenth to the I'll be gone from the tenth to the fourth, fifteenth, and so I won't be here on the Monday, the thirteenth.
11:32:52 So that's just me looking out cool. Not used to being done.
11:32:58 It's happening once. Yeah, you could also, like, join virtually the you know.
11:33:01 First hour or 2. That's usually pretty doable from conferences.
11:33:07 I appreciate that because I don't have any experience.
11:33:09 I don't know what it's going to be possible especially because it's a lunch hour in DC, so right? Yeah, if you can join us, we'd love to have you.
11:33:19 But if your day is full already, that's okay. Too. Okay. Although often that the really good speakers are over, the lunch hour, so you don't want to miss that I totally get
it, too I might have my opt out. Can't remember I missed one because it was either Kamala Harris or Pete
11:33:33 Budaj edge I'll be gone that week to after Monday.
11:33:41 I will be headed out of town with my wife. Attend the Board of Health Health Meeting virtually, and I think probably the county coordination as well.
11:33:49 You talking about the thirteenth yeah, I'll be out of out of the county, from the fourteenth to the seventeenth.
11:33:55 Okay, but available for virtual meetings. Okay, I will. I'm not going anywhere for a long time.
11:34:04 Except Olympia, so I will.
11:34:08 I will be gone for one of those nights, too, so we'll have all 3 commissioners out of county, but 24Â h.
11:34:16 The cats are away. Yeah.
11:34:23 That's the way. Alright, do we wanna talk a little bit about Dnr.
11:34:29 Before we break for lunch? Or would you rather talk in the afternoon?
11:34:31 I do I mean I don't. We don't know what's going on like we have.
11:34:35 We have perspectives and some pictures that are scary and I don't want to get over our skis on this, but I do wanna make sure that we're responsive cause.
11:34:46 It's, you know, not just an important, you know. Trust land of the county, but also a really politically touchy sale in of itself.
11:34:58 So, right, and at a time when we're asking for better and more coordination with Cnn, especially on environmental sensitive.
11:35:05 Land, so yeah, I think it's I think we should follow up at least inquiry, like speaking information, and as well what the process is when something like this happens outside
of the contract, if indeed, that happens.
11:35:20 So my plan was to review the Board of Natural Resources testimony for today cause that meeting is their meeting right now, and I know a number of people are going to talk about
this.
11:35:29 I've already received as we've been talking here couple of phone messages.
11:35:35 So, yeah, I'm just I'm thinking that the best initial course of action is is to come up with our questions.
11:35:44 Our 3 questions, or whatever and call drew. Yeah, cause he's he's the main guy in the in the region, and he knows these timber sales, because I I first of all is all of this
stuff.
11:35:58 We're hearing true. We know some of it is because we have photo documentation of it.
11:36:07 Wonder, too, if maybe asking to pull in Mona as well.
11:36:12 Just oh, yeah, I was supervisor.
11:36:15 Yeah, I would if I send them a message I would send it to both of them.
11:36:19 Do we? Wanna maybe get a letter that we see today draft up a letter to send to Mona and Drew just to, you know.
11:36:28 Put on the letterhead and send it. You know there's real concern.
11:36:30 We? When can you come? Talk to us about this? What's the process we could do that
11:36:44 I don't feel informed enough to be able to come to any that was.
11:36:50 That was my thinking of talking to Drew, cause he knows on the ground okay, that's I'm happy with that.
11:36:54 Yeah, that makes sense
11:37:02 I mean all, all the trees are down, not all the leave trees, the light text I got was from Gene Ball, and she said, they're not all down.
11:37:09 Leave tree is being deciduous, so no leave leave the oldest, the oldest, most valuable tree they have to leave up, you know, and I think sometimes I mean, seen one on the ground
that has a blue circle like I don't know their system well, enough.
11:37:28 But often they're they change the leave trees, I mean events on the sepa determination right? And that does that did change with this timber.
11:37:37 Sale, but still, when they change this, the leave trees, they usually black them out, so there are blue blue rings on the ground, so what is black?
11:37:51 The mountain. They black out the blue rings so you're allowed.
11:38:03 So the one that harvesters are going through that they know that they can cut them.
11:38:03 Yeah. Okay, the blue, the what do you wanna reach out to Dr. And Mona, I mean, if they can come next week and talk to us, I think, does that sound appropriate to you guys yeah,
that'd be great.
11:38:13 Okay, yeah, thank you for taking the lead on this. And yeah, it's really, really concerning, I'm I'm starting to see some of the notes coming into about the testimony that people
did at the to be in our meeting.
11:38:25 And I'm it's too bad we don't have a Jefferson County rep.
11:38:28 There, our county colleagues. We're not all behind that, but I would like to point out that 30 of them were so that's a good number.
11:38:37 Support for the work we're doing, well, that's that's a path.
11:38:42 And we'll address it more next week, because it's yeah.
11:38:48 Yeah, super concerning okay, that'd be great. The afternoon and we're not we.
11:38:54 We have just the executive session, I mean in whether it's the afternoon.
11:38:56 In the morning we have time for Dnr. To join us.
11:39:00 Oh, they're measuring.
11:39:06 Got it. Alright! Let's do a little little table setting for this afternoon.
11:39:15 Anything else that we wanna, you know you want to put on the agenda for this afternoon.
11:39:22 And we have parks and rack. Yes, and we're gonna look at the thank you.
11:39:32 And are we the community outreach? Is that just to schedule the locations and dates?
11:39:37 Okay. Great. The road show they'll feel like the new Commissioner when I hear about these things. I've never done before. Right?
11:39:44 Yeah, you know, Covid, right?
11:39:47 Yeah, we've done it a couple of different ways. So we can talk through how we want to do it, to before you.
11:39:53 And this will be likely where we largely talk about it.
11:39:56 The county coordination meeting this week, because this is a collaboration with all of our peers as well.
11:40:02 You just said, and something to Mark that I missed. It's the last call funding
11:40:14 Hmm, okay.
11:40:16 That makes good sense
11:40:20 Anything else. We take a break. Sure. Okay, we can, of course, add anything else.
11:40:27 We fairly light agenda this afternoon, but I will recess us until 1 30.
13:31:02 They get plugged in
13:31:08 There we go!
13:31:11 Alright. Okay. She'll come in. Recording.
13:31:19 Started alright. Well, I will call this meeting back into session, or the Jefferson County Board of County Commissioners.
13:31:27 We'll wait for our agenda item until Commissioner Dean rejoins us. She's just coming back into the building.
13:31:31 Luxury. Being able to go home for lunch. Right?
13:31:34 I think we should maybe should do this in District 3 for the rest of the year.
13:31:39 So you and I can go home from yeah. Come down to the quilty community center for lunch every day
13:31:48 Alright, I'm Jessica, of course, but we will welcome all. Hello!
13:31:53 Thanks for being with us, and we will get back to the agenda here
13:32:02 Hi, Kate, no problem. We we've started a second, but have waited for you.
13:32:08 So as as Kate sits down, welcome our guests, Matt Tyler and Vernon, from the parks and Rec Advisory Board, you want to tell us why you're here today, man.
13:32:21 Yes, I do. Thank you very much. Commissioners and staff, and guess I introduced Vern Bessie, the chair of our parks and Recreation Advisory Board, and I completely blank your
name I'm so sorry.
13:32:43 Our brand new yes, Susie Marshall, a new member of our Parks Anderic Advisory Board. Thanks for making out today. Yeah, absolutely.
13:32:45 So we. I remember to sitting around the table like from before Covid.
13:32:49 That's how long it's been. Maybe we really wanna have a discussion today rather than a Powerpoint and a presentation.
13:32:57 So we saw it as an informal chance to check.
13:33:01 So the Advisory Board has done incredible work in the past year, and part of their bylaws is to come to the Commissioners and give an Update each year I'm not sure it happened
over the last few years, probably because of Covid, maybe other reasons.
13:33:16 But that's where we're here, and I just wanna commend the entire Advisory Board, especially our chairman, who's on his second term as chair.
13:33:28 Yeah, if you got a step back, mastery, maybe not completely voluntary.
13:33:34 But he he! He didn't come to a meeting. He and he got elected, but that's the way it happens.
13:33:43 Not exactly, but, Bern, you've done a great job with the board, and Tim, Tim and Semi.
13:33:51 Thank you. Prepared this report. He wasn't able to come today because of the date change.
13:33:57 I mixed up because of the holiday, and so I put Vernon on the spot, invited him, and he prepared himself to do the report, so I thought we would just go through a summary, but
as we go through just really hoping for discussion, format and questions.
13:34:13 And input from from you guys as well. Great. So thanks, are giving us the opportunity.
13:34:20 Present the Annual port for 22, for the folks at home, and the recording.
13:34:27 We really need to just talk in the microphone. Okay, pretty close.
13:34:33 Yeah, like, so, thank you for giving us the opportunity to come and present our annual port for 2022.
13:34:39 As Matt indicated, Tim Tim wrote this report a couple of months ago.
13:34:44 I rewrote it, and I have my own little paraphrase outline.
13:34:47 If that's okay. And so I'll just run through each of Tim's items, and perhaps we can discuss each one as we go, or wait till the end.
13:34:56 We'll see how it goes and yeah, as you like, either way would be fine there, a lot of good gris to dig into.
13:35:02 So, okay, yeah. If any questions come up, you sure do
13:35:05 Just bring them up our first item of administrative actions we completed was, we completed the update of our Capital Improvement plan it's a lengthy list of projects that we
prioritized and concluded that a lot of projects connected with Hdr Kl park and
13:35:25 Memorial Field, where their priorities for this year. And so we're hoping to accomplish some of those in the upcoming year.
13:35:33 There's other projects also for the community center here in town and Uproke Bay, Campground and Indian Island.
13:35:43 The other item was our bylaws were updated with some amended general language, and we also adjusted our meeting times, so that the folks, those of us who are still working can
be better.
13:35:59 Accommodated to, to to attend those meetings, either by zoom or in person.
13:36:04 Excuse me, and then our parks and recreation and open space plan was updated and approved by you folks.
13:36:16 Thank you very much, it has to be updated every 6 years, and and it allows us to compete for our Co.
13:36:23 Grants, and we also concluded in that analysis that we're we're short on athletic fields and trails.
13:36:31 In our in our parks program. And so we're gonna have that in the back of our minds.
13:36:40 This coming here to see what we can do with that
13:36:44 Other actions that Tim listed was we mailed out letters of appreciation to our volumeers this year, and along with your help, and we appreciate that very much.
13:36:57 And this year we intend to get back to doing our in-person, volunteer picnic and and recognition in the field. Hopefully
13:37:07 Capital projects that were completed in 2,022 included resurfacing the summit shelter surface to better a comedy. LED.
13:37:21 Ada people and irrigation systems that at issue Carl Park and Iron Dale Community Park
13:37:30 The jump playground at issue of Car Park was completed.
13:37:34 It's a show piece. Facility took a lot of years and dedicated volunteers to make that happen, and it's a great accomplishment.
13:37:44 We really appreciate that all that help, the all that work that a wind didn't into that, hey, Verne?
13:37:50 I I was so happy to be at the jump.
13:37:54 Celebration. And I say, I remember, I said, want to be the first one in the merry-go-round, and then I turn around. I'm like, no, I don't, because what's happening over there
is so cool.
13:38:04 But but I wanted to ask you about the Arnold Beach the irrigation is that for the upper field that are up by the old kilns?
13:38:11 No, this is actually the community park in. Oh, okay, sorry.
13:38:18 I was just yeah. I wanted to play on those that playground equipment that day, too.
13:38:22 But we were.
13:38:31 So Tim made a special mention of our longtime volunteer and former board member, Grey Graves, who, almost single handedly takes care of any and Island county park, and his efforts.
13:38:42 There are invaluable. He moves, he picks up trash, he maintains the trail weeds out, invasive plant species and everything.
13:38:51 So he he's his work is greatly appreciated.
13:38:57 Comments were submitted to the Department of Official Miley connection to their 10 year recreation strategy.
13:39:06 And that's important to us, because Iron Dale Beach and Lake Leelland parks are are contiguous with Wdfw.
13:39:15 Land, and there are ongoing issues with educating the public on the differing regulations that occur there, and also maintenance cost share is a topic that we'd like to pursue
with them.
13:39:36 We gained 3 new board members, and had a full board for a time last year.
13:39:41 Unfortunately lost 2 members at the end of last year. So we're vacant, too. And I think they're being advertised now, aren't they?
13:39:51 The Chimenca Park shelter was removed after it was determined that it's like insect damage render getting feasible for repair kind of a sad day.
13:40:02 But it had to happen, and also in connection with Jimmy Kim Park.
13:40:07 The Board recommended that the county reserved several acres of adjacent land for possible future part.
13:40:12 Expansion.
13:40:17 Our annual parks. Tour had to be canceled, due to bad weather.
13:40:23 That's important to us. I missed it because it's really fun to get out there and actually inspect on the ground several parks each year to see what the needs are, and how they're
doing.
13:40:35 That'll resume that in those inspections will resume this coming year.
13:40:41 A few key volunteers are heavily rooted, relied upon for maintenance of iron.
13:40:48 Dale Beach, Gibbs Lake and Indian Island Parks, and it's really important that that we personally think is very important to support the their efforts as much as we can.
13:41:02 We rely on them. So much for for park maintenance, and it has ensure of a positive visitor experience to have that routine maintenance going on.
13:41:09 It's the only way it's being done at this point in time.
13:41:14 Recently the Board was approached by Kemp Bow site northwest, with a request to expand their least area for facilities, expansion, and that's because the camp is anticipating
significant growth in demand for their services.
13:41:32 And the Board believes that the camp serves a critical purpose and deserves our support.
13:41:42 In conclusion, I just wanted to wish I want to thank Tim for putting this report together, and we're sorry to see him go.
13:41:51 He was a great, he was great to work with, and he helped the Board accomplish a lot, and we wish him all the best.
13:41:59 Thank you. Thank you very so I just looked up and noticed when you said there were 2 vacancies.
13:42:06 It's not on our boarding committee vacancy list, but there's a vacancy in each of our districts.
13:42:10 So we got to get to work. Yeah, we'll do.
13:42:16 Well, thank you very much. That's a lot of great work is happening.
13:42:19 And you know I don't know if we want to talk about future initiatives, ideas that we want the parks and Rec Advisory Board to consider.
13:42:28 I mean, I know that Matt's been working a lot with our Community Forestry Project, which expands kind of the the amount of park at the same time that we don't increase our staff
capacity.
13:42:39 So it's great to hear, and also kind of a little dangerous to hear how reliant we are on volunteer, you know.
13:42:46 Just maintenance of grounds that I you know I know Gibbs Lake Park.
13:42:49 I've been down there when lots of folks are taking care of the bike trails and everything, and Iron Dale Park.
13:42:54 I don't know Jim, or or Greg, but that's you know that that kind of going beyond the call of duty is is really exciting, and it's also difficult to sustain.
13:43:04 So you kind of need a plan for it. So I don't know any other issues or questions that you guys want to bring up.
13:43:13 Well, I'd be curious to hear Matt from your perspective, how it's going in terms of staffing with you know we added some staff last year, and in part in response to such an
increase in in users of the park.
13:43:27 So just curious. If you could get kind of a status update on those 2 things which I assume are related to one another.
13:43:33 How long how many people are using the parks, and how much staff we need to properly maintain them?
13:43:38 Yeah, absolutely so different estimates on how much is increased. I think.
13:43:45 You remember, we thought Gibbs Lake had increased 3 times since from 2,009 to 2,019.
13:43:50 I don't have the most recent measurements, the most recent measurement I have now has to do with our reservations at Hg.
13:43:58 Carol Park, which increase 5 times since 2,018.
13:44:03 So a lot of that might just be because people realize it's busy, and they need to make a reservation.
13:44:10 They can't rely on just showing up and so forth, but nevertheless, I'm not saying park use has increased 5 times, but I think it in places, you know, has definitely tripled,
and we're feeling as the burden of just day to day cleanup is absorbing most of our
13:44:27 Time. So we have 6 days a week. We're probably gonna go to 7 days a week.
13:44:34 And that's just to keep the garbage picked up and the restrooms clean, and so forth.
13:44:40 We have a long list of what we call small maintenance projects, things just like painting and fixing buildings and cleaning up landscaping and so forth, that but we can't get
to.
13:44:54 And the big goal of the thing I had in mind when we increase.
13:44:58 Staff was to do those projects. And so the staff increase has been incredibly helpful.
13:45:04 I will. I must say that staff one of the big concerns, was just staff morale and stress, and so forth.
13:45:12 That has been alleviated a lot which is really, really, really, really good.
13:45:18 So Staff are able to catch up on their training, occasionally ride 2 in a truck and so they have some companions yeah, they're also able to go to the occasional conference or
reach out to their peers in other neighboring agencies.
13:45:33 And so forth, so that part has made a big difference. My biggest concern is that it is increasing still, I think it's increasing still, a place like Memorial Field, for example,
is busy 200 days out of the year.
13:45:48 Yeah, every one of those days is mission critical in a place like Memorial Field.
13:45:54 You have to be there, and you have to be ready to go.
13:45:56 You can't to. You can't do it part way.
13:46:00 The passive parks are easier, because they're just out there.
13:46:04 And you just basically have to keep them clean. But the busy places like, Hey, sh!
13:46:09 Carol, Memorial Field and our 4 campgrounds, over 100 campsites.
13:46:15 One of my biggest things right now that I think about, and our whole team thinks about a lot is the need for park Rangers.
13:46:24 And specifically around our campgrounds. I spend at least 12Â h a week between April and October, just doing campground supervision.
13:46:35 Oh, yeah. You're out on the ground in the park talking to people making sure that they pay, and just avoiding problems.
13:46:43 I wasn't doing that before I do that, because it's the easiest, least amount of time that I can spend in the campgrounds. I don't want perfect campgrounds, but we can't ignore
the campgrounds and have major issues arise which they still do even with me
13:47:01 There a great program that we piloted last year was with the sheriff's office to hire deputies in their off time, hey?
13:47:09 I'm over time. Huge help. And we're gonna expand on that.
13:47:13 It was a pilot, I think, expanding on that next year will help.
13:47:17 But they do, but the things that Park Ranger would do they don't actually do maintenance most park ranges do light maintenance, but they just get out of the car and walk around
the campgrounds and talk to people and ask them.
13:47:33 Why they haven't paid, and to remind them of various rules like, keep your campsite clean, and you're exceeding the 10 day limit, and so forth.
13:47:41 And does the sheriff's department had the capacity to continue in that role?
13:47:45 Yeah, we have a meeting next week to hopefully expand on it.
13:47:50 The issue was just there's not enough time. I'm not sure about the deputies time now.
13:47:56 That thought. Maybe they had more officers in the city, and then it might not be doing that quite as much.
13:48:04 Recently hired some additional. Oh, good need!
13:48:11 For sure, staff should reduce. Yeah. So it's a big help.
13:48:15 But we're gonna need more I I just don't know where the more is gonna come from, because, once you commit to even one staff person, I mean, I understand that the pressure that
the general fund is over is under it's just it's unusual for a county to provide such
13:48:33 Comprehensive services, because we are comprehensive parts and recreation program as if the county was almost like a city.
13:48:41 Right, you know, with a really high level service, you know. Right now we have our largest ever Basketball league happening with just hundreds of children. It's gotta be one
of the biggest programs in the county, and all these volunteer coaches like 35 40 volunteer coaches who step up
13:49:01 and coach, people, and it's in just an outstanding program, but unusual for county.
13:49:07 I think the pros plan did a good job outline, and how we do offer services different.
13:49:11 You know, higher level of service, and parks, and then a lot of counties and I mean, I understand the Memorial field.
13:49:17 And and yeah, and hj Carol, as you say, you have to keep those up to a certain standard.
13:49:20 I know we did a lot of investment in the turf at the Memorial Field last year, and and those continued to investments are are expensive, and it's like the extra extra mile that
you can't stop doing once you've started delivering that level of service right.
13:49:37 Yeah, yeah, a victim of our own success and the level of service.
13:49:39 Yeah. And then not suggesting that we reduce our level service at all.
13:49:44 I just pointing out this odd situation, that we're into being silver line on the general fund, whereas places other counties.
13:49:51 They got rid of all the small parks and all the wreck programs, and they just run high dollar campgrounds.
13:49:57 That's just the most common thing that counties do.
13:50:01 Gotcha, different in part because of the geography of being in East Jefferson County.
13:50:08 Which is this more, much more small space that we can actually do?
13:50:13 Do what we do. And I'm really proud of doing what we do to me.
13:50:17 It's really, really rewarding, especially when you see us using every gym in the entire county for filling every gym for basketball practice like this weekend will be in the
quills. Scene.
13:50:28 Jim and the chimercum gem all those gems and people travel from people from Port Townsend, travel to cool scene, connect with people there vice versa, and so the unifying aspect
of our parks is to me really really valuable and somewhat overlooked the way we tie people
13:50:49 Together well, and it's interesting that seeing that kind of pipeline of youth sports, and then how it feeds into the high school, and and I care about this both because my
daughter is an athlete in the high school, but also because it's just so important for kids well-being, especially in critical
13:51:08 teen years, and yeah, there's a real disruption of Covid, of course, and so there's this gap now of not enough student athletes.
13:51:16 They weren't playing through Covid. And so it's great to see young kids returning, and that those programs will continue.
13:51:21 But I mean there are sports in the schools that might have to, you know.
13:51:25 Cease existing because of that interruption. And it's it's just seems so important, you know, like to have them engage throughout and to see the benefit that that provides through
through high school and beyond.
13:51:41 Yeah, it's. It's profound. Definitely I will throw out there. I don't want to talk too much, but our our non general Fund revenue, versus general fund.
13:51:53 We have 25% of our revenue is non general fund, including Pill and Ltac and wreck fees and printal fees for our facilities and so forth.
13:52:03 25%, and the average from Nrpa.
13:52:07 For counties across the country is at 18. So we're actually performing fairly well in this team in the fee department.
13:52:15 I made it sound like really dependent, but we're doing trying to do our part as best we can, and we'll be coming to you soon with a new fee resolution.
13:52:24 Once the Advisory Board gets to look at it, not a major increase.
13:52:29 But right now I'm going around talking to the schools and the sports clubs, and anyone I can about the modest fee increase it should help
13:52:38 I'm kissing I'm curious about. I saw Monte's email about after the last big king tied about the impact to yeah Uproke Bay, or I don't know if that's what it's called.
13:52:51 But obey, and also the one in.
13:52:54 Indian Island, and he's any speech, too. So I just wonder kind of how we're planning for that, and what our.
13:53:04 But you know the the king. Tizer, apparently just gonna keep coming right.
13:53:09 So how are we planning for that eventuality definitely planning and been planning?
13:53:15 We've been in phase, withdrawal at lower.
13:53:18 Okay, since 2,004, gradually removing tortures and campsites, turning it into day use.
13:53:23 I think we're still okay with the level service we have now for now but that's a highest water that I've seen, and all the neighbors that have been there forever.
13:53:31 Sent me a 1 million pictures and said, We've never seen it like this.
13:53:37 So lower up days eventually, I mean, this happens in slow motion, it's not gonna last.
13:53:44 So, we're the way we're planning is Timeline Park, I think, would make a good opportunity for building another campground to replace those campsites campsites are really important
right now, Advisory Board's been working on timaken Park Furn you could speak to this vote
13:54:00 But the Advisory Board really focused on Timmaken Park because they showed up.
13:54:04 And it was basically closed and abandoned so they started working there and doing service projects and calling attention to it for the public and staff.
13:54:11 And we came in and supported that, and reopened it, and so forth.
13:54:14 Eventually that area and the space around it could make a good campground to replace those campsites.
13:54:21 Indian Island Park. We have talked to various coalitions and groups and foundations about abandoning the access to the lower.
13:54:31 Please, but we would only do that if we're absolutely forward to do that, because it's extremely important access to the public so once it's completely gone and washed away,
we lost about 6 feet in the recent storm, once it's on, it's almost gone, I mean once it's completely gone, and the road.
13:54:51 Is destroyed. We won't have any choice but to move to a higher level, and is have a trail that goes.
13:54:57 The goes down below, going back to Gimmickham Park.
13:55:01 I think that's the parts of redboard is a lot of great work there.
13:55:05 And again I dovetails with the, with the community.
13:55:08 Forestry efforts, and then also, I think, with Odt and the great American rail tray, I mean, I would love that as a connector to Anderson State Park, Anderson Lake, State Park,
and whatever path that the grammar Rail trail comes in through, and I guess i'm just I don't know excited
13:55:26 About that, I'm wondering. Is there a compromise that has to be made elsewhere when we expands?
13:55:33 And I'm I'm wondering specifically about North Shore Park, and I've heard rumblings about.
13:55:39 I mean, is that a park that should be under city control is that is that kind of conversation you want to talk to them.
13:55:48 I'm I'm not sure how to I'm just rambling.
13:55:54 That's why can you explain? Well, I mean, you know, it's directly adjacent to city services.
13:56:01 The city sewer goes through it. It's a ching park for parks and rack, but the city parks rack is has much closer proximity, so it just is, you know, as we're moving forward,
we want to make sure that the parks remain vibrant, and i'm
13:56:15 just wondering if that's a compromise that we could make if the city was into it, to you mean for the city to take over the management or I mean, if we are expanding other parks,
is that the compromise the kind of compromise that we should make
13:56:29 Or I just to the public. I don't know that they would even notice the difference between you know.
13:56:32 Who's actually maintaining the park. Basically important thing as far as North Beach part goes.
13:56:40 Gotcha I think a lot of people think it's a city park.
13:56:45 Well, and you know I think part of the the aquatic Center conversation will, I think, ultimately come down to whether we think it's feasible to consider a metropolitan park
district where ec a lot of these questions might be surfaced with a larger set of stakeholders too.
13:57:07 Matt, have you been pulled into that process at all?
13:57:09 Yet it's still kind of in an early selection process.
13:57:13 But is that something that you have any bandwidth to provide?
13:57:16 Some really valuable input on not the Mpd part, but just the the the potential aquatic center partnership.
13:57:23 Yeah, I join the the part. The stakeholders group I've been involved since the beginning of it.
13:57:29 But North Beach, one inflection point I just had to use that phrase, inflection point for North Beach is when they do the sewer outfall.
13:57:40 They're gonna destroy the park and use it as a staging grounds, and then completely rebuild the park, which would be a great time for the city to take ownership and operate.
13:57:51 It is as it is owned, without any fees.
13:57:54 The only thing that would concern me is if the State owned it, then they would put a discovery pass requirement which wouldn't.
13:57:59 So over, very well, okay. And then and what's the timeline for their outfit?
13:58:07 They're already through neat bar. Whatever they have to do right?
13:58:09 I mean, they're they were ready to go, and they had some issues, and then I don't know where they're at now.
13:58:14 But yeah, with the big discussion that's going on. As you mentioned, Kate, I don't know how it will happen I think a lot of it's on your level.
13:58:21 The policy discussions around funding and revenue, and so forth, and different portfolios might be good to check in with Steve King on that idea.
13:58:31 I mean another timeline. We would want to be on for that kind of idea that's a pretty big idea.
13:58:37 Start, early, yeah.
13:58:41 I don't know if any issues with the city or in it they'd probably get a higher level service and more customized care and management, and so forth.
13:58:51 Maybe turn the bathrooms back on like. Just hook them up to the that kind of thing.
13:58:55 Yeah, not the outfall to be clear.
13:59:02 9Â h. We need to take on another person. We already have places that need help like Ironyale Beach Park, that I just converted into taking care of.
13:59:15 We had a transition. We have. Volunteers are left over from 2,009 that are taking care of Iron Dale Beach, Indian Island, and
13:59:24 Gibbs link. And so those places will be next on my list.
13:59:30 But I don't. I I couldn't commit to another another part where do you attend on the park? The nature of the park, of course.
13:59:40 But oh, Tyler, like camp down at Chimica Park, you know.
13:59:41 Expansion services, really, that would take a major change in our maintenance team.
13:59:45 A new campground. What help do you need at Iron Dale Beach Park?
13:59:51 Well, Vernon's gonna mow he's gonna use the mower that made all these fancy arrangements.
14:00:00 We decided we couldn't staff it. So we've been working on a transition.
14:00:03 Jim's dark is retiring from his work, but he's going to lend his more to you.
14:00:07 Agreed to all this right, but he also uses his, his mower to to get the garbage out of the garbage.
14:00:20 Can. He does that? Jim Stark? That he has a trailer.
14:00:26 He has a riding and a little trailer, and Susie learn it does a monthly garbage pickup.
14:00:31 People do it. They can, with brush and fall in limbs and trees, and stuff Averne has a 3 foot long, handsaw that I got him called a katana boy, made by silky okay, it's like
as close you can get to a chainsaw without having a motor nice so he's been doing a
14:00:47 Lot of the trimming and brushing. Well, thank you.
14:00:51 Well, there is! That's that's my neighborhood.
14:00:54 I grew up in right. My mom still lives there. And yeah, there is a whole new set of younger folks who have moved into iron now.
14:01:03 So that's why I was asking. Know some of them, and might be able to recruit some of them to be the next help be the next generation, because they use the par all the time.
14:01:12 That would be amazing. There's projects like, if we could get people to dig the blackberries out of the doom grass along the front.
14:01:21 There. It save us from having to start mowing that gingras? Because if we don't do something, we're going to have Blackberry Mountain right in front of the beach. Yeah.
14:01:31 It's a crabble place, I mean to hide this point, though getting a new generation of volunteers is okay, necessary all the time.
14:01:39 It's like you always have to be thinking, because people can only do it for so long before they're like, you know, can't get blood out of a turnup right?
14:01:45 I mean, how long do you want to mow? Yeah, everybody's lawn is basically start.
14:01:52 Did it till he was 86. Yeah, okay. Well, I guess that's that's a good line for you.
14:01:55 There! It's not scare them away for life.
14:02:08 So I need that they're really exciting. I mean, we have to figure out like I was part of the effort to pull together the friends of Chicago Creek with Susie back.
14:02:19 And 2,008, 9. And so, yeah, well, we need to brain when you have a little brainstorm session.
14:02:28 But that'd be great. I've got. I mean, I've just been struck by the number of young people moving into that neighborhood.
14:02:38 Love and care for that beach. So yeah, my kind of volunteers have to be low, low maintenance, like people that come on and sign a agreement.
14:02:49 And then they just basically go off and work and kind of guide other volunteers under under them.
14:02:54 But with them as developing their team, and so forth. We don't have the capacity to do group group projects or schedule people.
14:03:03 A lot of volunteer programs. You're scheduled for your 2Â h.
14:03:06 Do something specific. You show up. Someone's there to like.
14:03:08 Give you a granola bar and hold your hand, and you know thank you.
14:03:11 And then you're gone. But our program is very, very different in itself.
14:03:16 We're not at that level at all one wonderful thing that counting could do is add a dedicated volunteer Coordinator, which I know what I've been working with.
14:03:26 Willie, Willie and his new person. Anna. Yes, yeah.
14:03:32 And that's gonna be really helpful. I've had a couple of meetings with them.
14:03:38 Then I think that will make a big difference.
14:03:43 And I guess has the parks and record we haven't had, like Peninsula trails, or someone out.
14:03:51 Come out for quite a while, have we? I just feel like they're. I want to make sure there's interface between the Ode efforts and any Grant applications, and the Advisory Board,
as you know, routes are being decided.
14:04:00 And you know, yeah, we're definitely involved with our regional and local trails, especially the Tri area community trails, which is a especially important to us because it
goes right through to Carol Park and connects several of our parks and they're gonna build one that goes from the schools to
14:04:18 Hc. Carol Park connects to the Rick Tallson trail.
14:04:21 Yeah with the Ott. I I know about everything that you're doing.
14:04:25 But it's not necessarily directly connected to our parks.
14:04:28 Gotcha. Okay.
14:04:33 I guess the shoe were coming too. There's a few more trails that public works is talked about working on as the sewer comes comes together. Right?
14:04:41 Yeah, yeah, that's all that. Tr, area, active transportation network can.
14:04:47 Which to me is a fantastic program serving people that live and work.
14:04:51 In our communities and in our parks. Right? Be really heavily used, which doesn't come under the jurisdiction of partners. Right?
14:05:00 It's that's it's kind of transportation.
14:05:03 Yeah, those are all the trails like that are seen as transportation so I'm not sure if Mallory has talked with you all about the idea of we're in this process with Dnr right
now.
14:05:16 And she's analyzing different tracks of DNA land and looking at potential for a few parcels to reconvey to the county as one of the management options.
14:05:27 The only way piece of Dnr. Land can be reconciled to a county is to parks.
14:05:33 That's a Rcw. It's in the State law, and so I don't know if you know she's had a conversation with you all about the potential of some more kind of passive park land coming
into the county Parks.
14:05:49 Sweet. Yeah. Mallory's been amazing with her leadership of it and her technical expertise and I've been to the meetings online, mostly passively, just learning and watching
and talking to Mallory.
14:06:00 But we can't handle any more acreage without additional resources.
14:06:05 So we're just at our at our limits.
14:06:09 And not saying that we couldn't do it.
14:06:10 But so much direct field work to compensate for places like our campgrounds, we can't keep up with we have no, that's something that we have to plan for.
14:06:20 Then, as we go through this process, yeah, place, I mean, it's sort of a micro model of what they're doing in kits. App.
14:06:27 It's extremely successful. It, kids happen, I think we could definitely go that route.
14:06:33 I mean, I'm wondering how how effective do you think the the park managers, the embedded, you know, like an HD.
14:06:40 Carol, and they camp ground the ones that hey, to stipend, basically to to take care of the camp.
14:06:45 Ground I mean is that war. Can you see that being a hybrid Ranger model where they're given a little bit more authority and and feel that function that we're hiring?
14:06:56 Deputies to do right now it's a great idea, and they they're not officially doing any enforcement.
14:07:02 They're not allowed to. But the amount of supervision that is done at Gibbs Lake, H.
14:07:06 Carol and Oak Bay is really really high, especially for what we offer.
14:07:10 We need to be able to offer more at H.
14:07:15 D carol, and more at Oak Bay. Gibbs Lake gets an incredible we used to get a cabin and a dock and a big garage, and so forth, so they're doing 25Â h a week, and that's at minimum
wage so incredible incredible program.
14:07:32 Yeah, and long term, people doing it. That gives like, Oak Bay is much harder. It's a lot of stressful work, and all you get is a campsite with electrical and power.
14:07:43 We are building a new campsite for them this year.
14:07:46 They'll have power and water and we're gonna pump their septic tanks.
14:07:51 So those are great programs that could be expanded on. Okay?
14:07:56 Seems like leveraging. You know that kind of quasi volunteer effort.
14:08:00 The people that just wanna live at a park, you know. Seems if we can leverage that and get more out of it, it might be a way to. I agree with those gaps because we had our I
don't know a park model home at Hql.
14:08:12 Or something, for example, that would really sweeten the deal, or if we had a septic system at Oak Bay, be fantastic, Gotcha.
14:08:20 Okay. Hmm, great idea. Great suggestions. Okay?
14:08:26 Well, and, Susie, do you want to give you give you a chance?
14:08:30 If you want to say anything, welcome.
14:08:37 Okay, well, thanks for coming out today
14:08:42 Great. I I don't know any other questions, comments, thanks thanks.
14:08:47 So much good to see you guys in in, you know.
14:08:49 Here. Yeah, you're welcome anytime. Yeah. And and thanks a lot, for you know not just your service on the parks and report.
14:08:55 But mowing the lawn down at Iron Dale. Right?
14:09:01 Well, I'll I'll work on that and also work on District 2 and 3 that's an easier board to fill than a lot of the board, but that's not on our vacancy list.
14:09:15 So we got to get those
14:09:17 Okay, you got it alright. Thanks for the boarding staff and to the Advisory Board members.
14:09:23 Thanks, so much talk you soon. I'll see you at the Parks and Rec meeting, and let's get the the tour schedule right. The weather is getting better.
14:09:28 We should do. Yeah, great eager to get out on the in the parks with you guys.
14:09:33 Thank you. I had to fight to keep that that role Heidi was trying to get taken back from this year. So yeah, now we're wrestling for we. We're like, I generate brothers and
sisters like, Hmm.
14:10:02 Great! What good parks and recruiting? Hmm.
14:10:09 Okay, well, we've we talk about our community outreach, and maybe just for for the new Commissioner, we should go over what we've done in the past, and and we've been to some
of them as a citizen before but they're often quite different at different places.
14:10:28 So we got some perspective dates. I don't think we didn't have an attachment here right, but we did
14:10:35 We can hear you, but you can shoot me here.
14:10:42 Use my microphone. You want my camera to alright. So I pulled up a an old agenda last time we did.
14:10:53 That was in 2019, and we call them community outreach meetings.
14:10:57 And so these meetings, the commissioners and elected officials would be invited to go to different areas of the county and talk about county business.
14:11:07 Do a presentation speak with constituents, and we typically don't do that on an election year.
14:11:13 And so this 2,023 year would be a great time to pick these up again.
14:11:18 So like a sample agenda from the last time we did it, the chair calls them in to order.
14:11:25 There's introductions of staff, and then they do a community a county snapshot of different departments would introduce what they do for the county, and how they provide services.
14:11:35 And then the county administrator would provide a Jefferson County update, and then either do round-robin conversations or some other kind of event depending on the atmosphere.
14:11:47 I guess, and chairs discretion, and then reports back from the round robbins, or meeting wrap up and thank you and we've done it in these following towns.
14:11:57 Oh, here right here in Port Town's under the community center, the gardener community center, the chimpanzees station, cool scene community center.
14:12:05 Brennan community center, portalo at the Bay Club and then West End at the whole tribal center.
14:12:13 And so I did put some tentative dates out there. They're they're on your calendars, but we have tentative dates of
14:12:22 So the first one would be Port Ludlow, June first, and then port down the Community center.
14:12:31 June can't read this June eighth or sixteenth Thursday or Friday.
14:12:39 Those are tentative. And then for chimicum will be July 19.
14:12:43 Gardner, August eighteenth. Vernon, September eighth whole scene, September fourteenth, Wednesday, October sixth.
14:12:50 Now again, these are just very preliminary. I'd have to call these venues.
14:12:54 See if there's availability and then check with your calendars.
14:12:58 But I can. If you guys would like I could go ahead and start that process
14:13:04 I'm just trying to recreate the list in my notes
14:13:11 So in the past we've got it more in the autumn, and it was we got some feedback that was really dark and hard to travel, for, especially for older folks.
14:13:25 But I mean we know that if you do it in the summer, then everybody will say it's no one's ever traveling terrible time.
14:13:33 Yeah, yeah. Well, the West End what? They took the longest to get back to us.
14:13:36 So that was why we had to do that one in the fall.
14:13:38 We did our Western October twenty-fifth, but the other than that Gardner was August 20 first, so that was the last one.
14:13:44 They all were kind of June. Through October and we might have a adjusted because of that yeah, we might have adjusted because of the darkness.
14:13:59 And then made for earlier. Yeah, I didn't chat all those down.
14:14:08 They're on your calendars, too. But thank you.
14:14:18 And so we would talk with. This is a also with other elected, and, you know often department directors, you know, as we go to Chimicaum, if we don't have someone for public
works to talk about the sewer, we will be missing the conversation.
14:14:35 So this will be an agenda item on Friday the primary agenda item, I guess, will go, and so we don't.
14:14:40 We shouldn't solidify anything about format we can talk, we can get that feedback from everyone else, too, and get it, I mean.
14:14:49 So before all the electives were invited. And then, really it was most of the department directors, too. Right?
14:14:54 I mean, I think we had Vicki there, like public health public works. Dcd.
14:14:58 Ring brochures. And yeah.
14:15:05 Right? And I mean, yeah, it. It works differently at different places, too.
14:15:12 Some of them really are small enough. Group. The breaking into small groups and having access to, you know, having 2 electors at a table with 4 people is is viable.
14:15:23 More of a question and answer and I think you're closing same way.
14:15:28 Yeah, you will see. In the last time was like a big, big surround table is semicircle. Yeah?
14:15:34 And it was one big conversation. Yeah. And I, I'm any of the formats are okay.
14:15:39 I think you just have to manage it and be responsive to the to the crowd that shows up and what they want to talk about.
14:15:46 So, you know, keeping some of it pretty scheduled, and you know, having a I wrote a state of county that that you present at the head of it is, I think, grounds the conversation
then often some of our other electives, you know, don't get the same interface with the public so you know, just the
14:16:04 clergy, explaining what they do is good for Amanda, and he likes just campaigning.
14:16:11 Yeah, no, it's interesting. The feedback we've often gotten is that the lesser known departments end up being some of the most valuable information shared because people don't
know right?
14:16:23 I don't understand, or any number of I you know I I'm gonna have a complicated year, including being in probably in isolation for part of the summer with my husband.
14:16:41 So is there, I will. I'd have to be a tentative.
14:16:46 Yes, most dates, I do think probably worth check.
14:16:50 Ing graduation dates that June. I just that's right around high school graduation.
14:16:58 Yeah, yeah, it'd be good to make sure we don't conflict.
14:17:02 There and I think it'd be great that you know we are in a different meeting landscape than we were in 2,019, and we can much easier zoom a hybrid meeting at these places.
14:17:13 Too many of them have live streaming, capabilities, all of them have Internet.
14:17:17 So I think we should try to set it up as hybrid hybrid meetings, which is a little more complicated than doing here, but not impossible with the owl camera and and
14:17:31 And we do Brennan and Quilsein and Port Ludlow.
14:17:37 I assume the fire. Oh, yeah, we. I was in a hybrid meeting at the fire station for the strategic planning, and the senior center does
14:17:49 I wonder community Outreach is is very broad. I don't know if there's any benefits to kind of marketing it differently, like Town Hall, or get to know your county government,
or you know something a little more engaged.
14:18:07 Yeah. Totally county road show.
14:18:10 So that was
14:18:14 Very large ads
14:18:21 With all the schedules. Yeah, I think we should do that.
14:18:25 Yeah, I like something engaging, like, Get to know your county government.
14:18:29 It's like like that makes me think, oh, that sounds interesting versus a meeting.
14:18:34 Yeah, or I think it's a hallmark of our county government, too, is the accessibility.
14:18:40 So packaging it that way. This could be a good first effort for our new information. Officer.
14:18:48 Yeah, maybe we could let them kind of take first stab at at structuring it and the outreach around it
14:19:02 So, for now are we just holding these other use? You said. These dates are already on our calendars, Carolyn
14:19:09 Before we're waiting. Okay, get direction from there, and then I will have to
14:19:19 And
14:19:28 Okay.
14:19:30 That's pretty much all we had there. Any other brainstorms about it, though you can send it to Mark. Of course, we're gonna be the main agenda item for our first community Conversation
county county coordination meeting this this Friday with me.
14:19:47 So love to get any input I'm not seeing anything on my calendar just not.
14:19:54 Oh, you know. And video has started that process
14:20:00 Okay. Okay. Yeah. I didn't want to fill up your calendar with.
14:20:06 So these gates are all have been checked, and we're all free they don't.
14:20:11 Don't plan anything. On June sixth
14:20:15 June first.
14:20:23 Luckily I do not plan that far ahead, so I will not have a problem
14:20:29 No, there's less skiing after June.
14:20:35 Alright! Well enough said on that first of of many conversations about it is, we try to get ahead of it back to my notes from before we were gonna talk? I don't know.
14:20:47 Mark, did you have a chance to do any word smithing over the break?
14:20:50 I did come up with some I sent it to Kate. I wasn't sure if you were gonna wicker, that I just thought I I I feel like it could get trimmed down a little bit.
14:21:05 I could add it to
14:21:12 Yeah, it's about previous document.
14:21:17 Correct.
14:21:36 Oh, there it is!
14:21:41 So, mark, I have. I I look at the red down here.
14:21:46 I just I combined to the sentences. But did I miss anything by doing that?
14:21:54 There we go. Thank you.
14:21:59 I should say contingent upon receipt. Yeah.
14:22:09 Hmm.
14:22:12 Yeah, thank you. That's an improvement. And revenue.
14:22:17 Shang doesn't mean much to others, so
14:22:20 But it's final.
14:22:27 It is.
14:22:31 Distinguish them, final revenue share, I mean, and then, having the revenue sharing in there, even if it doesn't mean anything, people is at least yeah.
14:22:41 It is a real thing, and it's good to know what we're talking.
14:22:48 There's a better way to put that, because this is for public consumption.
14:22:54 Could we say distributed distribution of the 835 and remaining open funds, is contingent upon let's see that the final distributional distribution, I think that makes more sense.
14:23:10 Yeah. Don't use Arpa funds again
14:23:37 And I I put something in here about as prioritized, because if we received less, then we might want to do kind of as the legislature does.
14:23:48 Yeah. Have that got off? Yep, hmm.
14:23:59 So nice comma after that, including that was added in the second paragraph up a little bit
14:24:10 Is there a comma after including this? Shouldn't be there
14:24:14 Oh, I'm sorry, man, it is not first paragraph
14:24:24 It won't go away, so I think it's some sort of editing.
14:24:27 Oh, okay.
14:24:29 But yeah, we we'll have to put this in a different format, anyway.
14:24:35 For legal notice and press release.
14:24:45 Okay. Hmm.
14:25:11 I think it looks good
14:25:17 Hmm.
14:25:27 Anything else. Hmm! No! Hmm!
14:25:33 So make a motion that we replace the guidelines for last call.
14:25:41 Arpa funds. From what we approved earlier today to the Revised and Updated guidelines presented here, I'll second that.
14:25:50 Okay, since we did change it and offered couple comments, for we will do that again, though there's very little public with us at this point.
14:25:59 I can see any of them actually. But would anyone in the in the public like to make a comment on this amendment to this
14:26:08 Legal notice.
14:26:11 Going, once, click, the raise hand button. If you'd like to make public comments going twice and I'll close public comments.
14:26:19 Okay. It's been moved and seconded to to replace the previous last call funding posting.
14:26:27 With this, all in favor, indicate by saying, Aye, bye, bye, that's unanimous.
14:26:33 Great. Thank you, Mark. Thank you, Kate, for tidying that up.
14:26:37 Sure, Caroline, do you want this? Oh, yes.
14:26:45 And then the only thing other thing that I had from this morning with legislative updates, is there anything else that people you talk about?
14:26:54 I have 2 quick items to discuss they can coordinating council and a solar grant. So which?
14:27:03 Good Canal. So it's been right in yeah, jump right in. So part of some of the business of the Hood Canal Coordinating Council annual meeting tomorrow will be requesting a significant
increase in dues.
14:27:22 Membership dues which all the all the boards seem to be getting on this bandwagon this year, and those they are proposing.
14:27:32 The fees increase from $2,500 a year to $10,000 a year.
14:27:35 So. Yes, we will be asked to vote on that tomorrow, and I think that's something we need to discuss, and also Heidi, if I am on my way to Olympia and able to vote.
14:27:53 So if I'm you know, don't have good connection, then you would be thinking about on that.
14:27:57 So seem like a good time to talk about that. Yeah, I mean, what was when was the last time the fees went up?
14:28:03 It's been a number like 2,012.
14:28:08 I think so quite a while. You know the coordinating Council is the it functions as both the lead integrating organization as well as the lead entity.
14:28:20 So 2 different. It is our access to 2 different parts of funding for salmon restoration.
14:28:27 We typically do very well in those funding processes.
14:28:33 Jefferson County projects specifically in parts, because Timmy Corny has been very involved and is very kind of tuned into their funding protocols and priorities.
14:28:48 And so I feel like it's a relatively modest membership, considering the benefit that we get from it.
14:28:57 I mean, you know, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars every year. Millions of dollars.
14:29:03 Many. Yeah. So I think there is a I think it's a a good investment that I realize it is a significant jump.
14:29:13 Oh, we've been a nice! If they had communicated.
14:29:18 Had a plan part to go up over time instead of boom.
14:29:20 What's the rationale right now? I mean, yeah, I think, like many organizations, the yeah costs are going up.
14:29:33 Dollars are getting increasingly competitive, or, you know, just it's a lot of lot of work to be getting additional funding, and often that funding doesn't cover the the soft
costs of staffing.
14:29:49 There is talk of of decreasing that in future years of of getting building up enough of a question that where that cash flow is more manageable.
14:30:01 But you know, if that seldom happens, I don't think we should make a decision based on the
14:30:14 Well, I mean, you know you never like your fees going up, but, as you say, we get a lot of benefit out of being a member, and can Ial coordinating council.
14:30:24 So I I'm sure that the the cost increase is real, and you know substantial increase.
14:30:30 Every decade is
14:30:32 That'd be interesting to see their budget. I guess.
14:30:36 What percentage of you know? Yeah, which I could show you I'm not sure I've received it at some point.
14:30:46 I just haven't really.
14:30:49 I believe it's in the agenda for tomorrow's meeting.
14:30:53 Oh, so not shared, that was great, sure
14:31:06 Take me a minute to open it up. So where would this funding come from?
14:31:10 Non departmental.
14:31:14 Do we have room for it? I mean, unless we want to like, you know, unless we wanted to look at some of our other funds like clean water?
14:31:26 Yeah, we could potentially funded from other sources. But I I don't say that lightly
14:31:42 I didn't know department was the ideal place. Just hmm!
14:31:48 I'm putting my new Commissioner hat on again here.
14:31:51 How many entities do we pay dues to? I would be interesting to see kind of report of, and entities are organizations that we pay dues to as a county, and what kind of a spread
there is cause I know there's wasack, and they go and I just don't know
14:32:13 What the other ones are. Yeah, no, there's a lot of all the different right now.
14:32:24 We have individuals that they do. Yeah. So it depend on what information you were looking for, whether it's what the county pays as an organization or employees of the county,
and what they pay in dues.
14:32:39 I'm mostly thinking of the county as an organization. But hmm!
14:32:45 I'm sorry I'm looking through a lot of materials for the meeting next week.
14:32:54 Agendas interesting. I'm not actually pulling up the budget
14:33:03 Meeting, schedule.
14:33:15 Sorry.
14:33:22 Nice easy to get to their stuff
14:33:29 Not yet, but it's
14:33:34 Not in the materials, I'm sure sky would come out and and walk us through it.
14:33:40 Yes, yeah, just the the vote is tomorrow
14:34:02 Hmm. Links will be circulated next week.
14:34:14 150 is when I'm gonna talk about it.
14:34:36 Oh, well, I mean it's hmm
14:34:41 Contextual.
14:34:47 Yeah, I mean, and they, yeah, it should be publishing it if we're approving it.
14:34:58 I mean each of these organizations has one vote right?
14:35:02 Jefferson county kits up County, Mason County, Port Campbell's, Columbia.
14:35:06 Yes.
14:35:13 Yeah, I mean, I I don't have a problem with it.
14:35:16 I'm not overjoyed, but
14:35:22 Yeah, they send a lot of materials, but not the budget.
14:35:41 Since we could see if they have just requested a happy of the budget, we could wait a little bit and see if it sure come back. They're able to email it out. Yeah.
14:36:06 So it assuming. So there's only really 5 members
14:36:17 Hmm plus ex officio. Hmm
14:36:26 And do you think it'll have any problem passing?
14:36:30 I don't think so. No, I had a meeting with Scott Brewer over the lunch break preparation for the meeting tomorrow, and he did not think that it was gonna have trouble passing
14:36:43 Hmm.
14:36:46 He looks stiff, lipped, Mark. Good! Good! There's the hook now.
14:36:52 Here's the Htc. Annual Budget Annual meeting
14:37:02 Share, screen, zoom.
14:37:07 Share screen
14:37:11 An annual meeting with delayed couple of months. Okay?
14:37:18 Hmm, so
14:37:21 Revenues. Here we go. Basic member dues.
14:37:28 That reflects change already. Yeah, the small amount of their budget, though that was kind of my question.
14:37:36 Very small.
14:37:41 No, I don't have any problem with that. I guess I'm curious about the context.
14:37:48 Yeah, well, you guys will both be have the hip to the context next week.
14:37:54 So clue me in too
14:37:56 Yeah. Next. Monday. Okay, stop. Share. So you don't need a motion right?
14:38:03 I think we're yeah. We would need to to do more budget authority for it at a later date.
14:38:10 Oh, yeah. Okay.
14:38:14 Okay. Wait to see how the vote goes. I guess before we make that, I guess.
14:38:20 Give Mark that budget authority would be with the motion would be
14:38:25 Hmm, yeah.
14:38:29 Yeah, I feel prepared. Okay, with our support. Thanks for bringing that.
14:38:33 If I need to, I'm sure, and and then wanted to just call attention you guys might have gotten the same email today.
14:38:45 The State Commerce Department has a new Grant program for installation of solar panels plus storage for community centers, community buildings, batteries.
14:38:57 Yeah. Department of State Department of Commerce has a new grants funded pretty at 35.4 million for a installation of solar panels and batteries for community centers, for resiliency
that would be great yeah so as we're gonna redo the roofs on a couple right
14:39:21 Yeah, to have some some locations with some backup power.
14:39:26 And yeah, so that'd be a Michael Mark grant application, yeah, maybe I'll forward it to you and into Willie and bye, cool.
14:39:37 What would be the best route, mark just to you to me, and then all spread it out. Great
14:39:47 Certainly have candidates. Yeah, yeah, hmm, yeah, that's cool.
14:39:53 And it could be good timing with, you know those roof replacements happening, you know, making them happen together.
14:40:04 The problem is, you got to re-engineer everything
14:40:07 But that's probably part of the funding
14:40:12 There's planning and predevelopment tracks for up to $100,000, and then installation for up to 1.5 million
14:40:20 There's no match required on planning 30% match on installation.
14:40:26 Hmm, cool. Yeah.
14:40:31 Think about yeah, yeah, I didn't see that. But it's exciting.
14:40:36 Yeah.
14:40:40 Anything else. I'm still at the ledge, so I can report on a few of our priorities with Noola and association of counties.
14:40:54 So last week, Thereinger did drop the point.
14:40:58 Oh, 9. Bill just exactly the same as last year, so not a lot of change.
14:41:06 54. I believe I just get mixed up. It's 52 or 54.
14:41:13 I think it's 54, because some adopted it.
14:41:18 And was that 94 to expire in 30? Anyway?
14:41:24 It it. You know people adopted it at different times, and when you adopt it determines when it expires.
14:41:28 So it's it's the more generous of the 2.
14:41:33 I read recently, we can use that those funds for workforce housing account yeah. The last year and session a bill passed that amendment, that law.
14:41:43 So yes, can be used for publicly owned workforce housing, which we had already done actually, with our Fort Warden project.
14:41:51 But it I don't think it. Yeah, maybe we should rename if
14:41:59 Is that the river in Scotland? So that is House Bill 1267.
14:42:08 It. It doesn't support. Yes, it's doesn't. It?
14:42:12 Was assigned to the Appropriations Committee, so it doesn't have to go through a policy committee it just saves a step, and I think that's in large part, because it's been heard
so many times and past unanimously through policy committee pass the House
14:42:28 Unanimously, so remind me what it was the hangup last time, I mean, Senator Ralph this really doesn't like it.
14:42:37 So it's always past the house of flying colors, and then get caught up in the Senate.
14:42:41 It's even passed out of her committee in the Senate, because of overwhelming support.
14:42:46 But I think she's done that. She's allowed it to pass through, knowing that it would be held up.
14:42:51 On the floor, so it didn't even make it to the floor.
14:42:54 In the last couple of sessions do you? Have you talked to her about?
14:42:59 No, but they're injure has. Yeah. And there've been a number of concerns over the years.
14:43:04 But I think I think I think we've worn her down largely quarter bottle bill.
14:43:16 And and yes, yeah, definitely, although it's unclear how much that would apply to us.
14:43:21 But yeah, if a lot of smaller counties are exempt from parts of that.
14:43:31 So, yeah, so there's a recycling component at the county level.
14:43:37 It's a what 130 pages Bill, which is, I have already waiting on staff.
14:43:42 At lastack to do some digestion, which I'll get a good update on Wednesday.
14:43:48 I'm curious to hear about that one. Yes, yeah, no.
14:43:50 And I've already expressed to waste that we're very interested in that bill and would be good advocates for it.
14:43:56 If if it looks like it's a good bill. Also, Chatman has introduced a bill which would put a pause on the electrical apprenticeship requirement.
14:44:13 The trainee requirement which you know screws over counties like ours.
14:44:19 The the electoral trainees. So really, we actually didn't know Chapman was going to drop that bill.
14:44:26 It was a surprise like yesterday. Yeah, which is great, because otherwise we were gonna have to go through a different policy bill and try to sneak in that change.
14:44:40 So this is much more direct and and he seems like a very good person to drop that building positionally in the parties.
14:44:48 And and his yeah role with natural resources. That's great.
14:44:50 Yes, yeah. His kind of rural economic development. Yeah, it is. House Bill 1,393
14:45:04 I did get Aola update today that I have not even had a chance to open yet.
14:45:11 So more on, that
14:45:14 Later. Oh, the the riparian bill was dropped it's the governor's response to the riparian habitat and Lauren Lewis Bill from last year counties.
14:45:28 It sounds like are going to support it, because it's really a lot of money and voluntary program and so I'll be testifying on that tomorrow.
14:45:35 I believe I don't. I don't have the bill number handy on that.
14:45:41 Sorry. Hmm! It's all. Everything's happening so quickly right now.
14:45:45 Carolyn sent out a question on House Bill 1022, which is I.
14:45:53 Is that pulling the veterans levy at of the 1%.
14:45:58 Cap Caroline again
14:46:09 Great Robert
14:46:18 I imagine this is very much like the bill that we've seen in past years, and it has not been able to get across the finish line.
14:46:29 It's interesting that my colleagues from the other side of the aisle admit to wanting this bill but they can't support it same best friend.
14:46:46 But philosophically. Yeah, same with the 1%.
14:46:50 They do away with the 1%. Cap could never get reelected if they supported that publicly.
14:46:55 So that's that's where it runs into resistance.
14:47:01 So hey, Carolyn, I'd like to, since I'm gonna be with lastack tomorrow it'd be good.
14:47:07 So again.
14:47:10 At odds. I imagine they will support it
14:47:15 And thanks for sending it out to me, too.
14:47:24 Okay.
14:47:31 For me.
14:47:36 Yeah, please do. And Carolyn, you testified on it a few years ago, didn't you?
14:47:44 Yeah, you did. Great
14:47:57 Hmm! I'll get some more information on that
14:48:07 It's like the right period. Bill numbers Senate Bill 52, 66,
14:48:18 Hmm! And vandal eggs. A sponsor
14:48:26 Yeah, when I'm gonna be very interested in is the the recycling and producer responsibility bill.
14:48:33 So we're gonna spend a lot of time on that in Olympia. As the next couple of days
14:48:41 In theory, Mike Chman is also dropping a bill with a number of the economic, real economic development issues that Nola represented.
14:48:50 But I not heard that that has been dropped, and it was rather complicated, so I'll have to do some more research like I said I did get a to.
14:49:02 I believe I got a no update in the last few days.
14:49:03 And I haven't had a chance to dig into it yet.
14:49:05 Nope, hmm! I just found it.
14:49:17 It's it's a little bit lengthy. I'll forward it to you
14:49:26 In terms of wasac priorities, so point 0 9 is one of those.
14:49:32 One is swap of Federal dollars for State dollars for transportation projects.
14:49:37 Instead of federalizing a project with a small amount the State would be switching those out, and this looks like the States in favor of that.
14:49:45 The Governor's budget included some funding for that, and there's a recommendation from a another entity that has apparently has the air of the governor.
14:49:57 Sounds like that is likely to happen there's a it's a 990, cents on the dollar match.
14:50:01 So you'd lose some local dollars. But that is well worth the cost, according to most people.
14:50:07 So that one is looking good. The modernizing jails is pretty complicated.
14:50:19 Mostly because of so many criminal justice. Reform bills being introduced this year.
14:50:27 Yeah, and ultimately those would be a lot of capital dollars and requests.
14:50:32 So I don't think Wasack is feeling especially optimistic about that.
14:50:36 But more, planting the seeds, starting to tell the legislature.
14:50:40 You know we counties provide this service, for we actually do it for for the State, and Feds, too.
14:50:49 You know most people who are apprehended comes through a county jail.
14:50:53 The city too, but in in our cases what matters is county and can be held there for up to a year 364 days before going to a prison.
14:51:03 So, so starting to make the case for a need for reform, modernizing, updating and making more therapeutic.
14:51:15 Our county jails. But again, not not a lot of optimism.
14:51:19 There as the specialist legislature works through kind of revising some of the the reforms and continuing that effort.
14:51:28 The fourth wasac priority is standardizing behavioral health network availability.
14:51:40 So network. Yeah, so across the state you know, we have the the hey?
14:51:49 So's, and they are finding that because the Asos contract with Mco's sorry for all the Acronyms folks there's a sheet the administrative service organizations yeah.
14:52:11 So what's the Mcco care organizations? The managed care organizations are paid to offer service, behavioral health services in a region, and those are private corporations.
14:52:22 Often nonprofits, but still they are in the business of making money, and it is not profitable to offer services and remote areas.
14:52:31 And so, exactly, yeah, so this network adequacy is the kind of buzzword trying to create this adequacy across networks for behavioral health.
14:52:45 And that is the the fourth priority for Wasack.
14:52:48 This legislative session. It sounds like a lot of the effort is moving towards getting the the States contracts with Mcco's modified so that it is required when they contract
more than doing a legendary fix.
14:53:03 Yes, require them in the contracting, so that one is also changing a little bit.
14:53:09 So 2 of our priorities at West Sacramento, which is fine, because things always it's funny we put so much work into prioritizing.
14:53:18 And then the session comes, and like slams us with something unexpected.
14:53:23 That's much more important. So, anyway. But that's a really challenging bit dealing with the contracts with the different.
14:53:28 I know it's just it's a large part of our administrators.
14:53:33 Workingload is just managing those and forcing those contracts, making sure that you can get the same level of service from different Mcos.
14:53:42 And this weird, overlapping network of which Mcos are where it's really, it's a challenging system spend a year in that.
14:53:51 And you're like, why are? Why are we looking at single-payer health care
14:53:55 Well in the there's a risk that Mcos could pull out of the State, and there are counties where there was or nobody applied to serve in that role.
14:54:09 So, you know, doing this carefully is important to not risk losing all the potential providers.
14:54:17 Yeah, and there's some question as to who should be taking the lead on this.
14:54:20 I think counties or nobody else was kind of doing it arguably.
14:54:27 The health, care authority should have been concerned about this, but it was counties that brought it to their attention.
14:54:35 So it might be something of a soft hand off. But I think it's good that we've elevated the issue through this process
14:54:43 So that's I think that's mostly my legislative update.
14:54:48 I can. Even your legislative update.
14:54:51 And I haven't like tomorrow, I feel like is, I'm really gonna dive in.
14:54:55 So.
14:54:59 I'm gonna have to at least find one to bring you haven't heard of that.
14:55:03 I have a few tag on to add. Well, sofa was made septic capacity and risk analysis, a priority nice, and then looking to get 250,000 from the general fund for that, I said my
septic tank empty that one right?
14:55:23 How far is this subject gonna go? Yeah. And I asked Jamie from an update, she said, capacity was not in the Governor's budget, but in talking with our public health policy contacts
within his office.
14:55:36 They are very supportive. Brendan and I have met with a few Senators and Representatives, and also have gotten positive responses.
14:55:42 So building the radar to ensure it's on the short list from all 4 corners with soft, those legislative priorities are attached more specifics and legislative feedback.
14:55:53 We're asking 250,000 to ecology.
14:55:56 Our preference would be to have it as a pass-through to Wasack, to hire a consultant.
14:56:01 I believe we can get the Stenny finish for next next.
14:56:05 Next, if we push so I can forward you their legislative priorities, because they might be interesting to you and I'll forward him to Caroline, too.
14:56:17 So, and let's see. And then I mentioned earlier, from the trust land transfer front.
14:56:25 That there is a policy bill. It's
14:56:37 Introduced by Christine Rothus, and don't have it with me right now.
14:56:44 But we will be talking down there talking with them meeting with legislators.
14:56:48 We're doing our own little lobby day on January 20, sixth, on Trustland Transfer on the Policy Bill, then also on the 25 million dollar capital budget request for the program
that would fund that pilot list of 10 projects that we were working on that includes devils like that that includes devils
14:57:07 Like. So those are the 3 things that I'm currently aware of
14:57:15 Alright, I don't have any legislative update.
14:57:17 Okay, right about Bottle Bill. I was excited about that, but now I've got a wait till someone else reads the whole thing actually.
14:57:24 And helps helps me digest it, because I not gonna read a 134 pages that will undoubtedly go through a 100 revisions before it's done.
14:57:34 That's the challenge. Yeah, it's really that's one. I thought I could skip it and get the details.
14:57:41 I was like, no but it would be good to get out, including on that, too.
14:57:45 Yeah, I, touch, base familiar with it.
14:57:49 When I saw it, I reported on. He's keen on it.
14:57:54 Alright. So legislative update will be a regular part of our afternoon session.
14:57:59 So thanks thanks for bringing that back and doing that, doing the heavy lifting.
14:58:03 Kate. Anything else we need to discuss today if we made it through the end of our listed agenda and the add on agenda items from this morning
14:58:15 You know good briefing, and no conflicts that you need taken care of, or anything anyone
14:58:24 No! Oh
14:58:29 Did not this week. Let's see, let's look at next week.
14:58:33 Doing pretty good at managing my calendar. It's filled right up so, doesn't it?
14:58:41 It sure does. But everyone's schedules working out so far
14:58:46 Yep, yeah, except the
14:58:51 Except the legislature, the hard part. I'll have it all, you know.
14:58:56 Fine tune machine, and then the hearings oh, yeah, get thrown in. And you know it's like you anywhere. An hour and a half period you might get pulled on to testify or might
run right right for 30Â s.
14:59:11 Or 3Â min. Yeah, yeah, it's hard to plan I prepared a Zack 3Â min speech at the last time we testify, and they're like, Oh, you get a yeah, I'm gonna wanna be 30Â s.
14:59:26 Just do the middle so you can still do a virtual test test testimony.
14:59:36 Right which is super super helpful for those of us that don't live in Olympia.
14:59:40 Yes, Yup, and written, of course, and they've loosened all of the requirements.
14:59:48 So as soon as hearing it scheduled, you can sign up to testify instead of day out, and same with written comments that used to be a much smaller window and you could see that
in common.
15:00:02 So now it's, I think, from when the hearing is announced, until, like 3Â h before, subject to Opma.
15:00:11 Soon, too, you know. Sound good, crazy, would submit themselves to the rules they impose on others. Right?
15:00:22 I did get the budget from the canceled annual meeting, the same one that Heidi shared no coordinating council.
15:00:38 Hmm! Cool! Already. Had a chance to look through that.
15:00:43 Yes, great nothing else from you, Mark. No, sir, all right. I have not heard back from Dnr.
15:00:52 I did send them a message. As we discussed this morning, and I asked, hmm, hmm!
15:01:02 I ask them if they could come next Monday at 1 30.
15:01:08 Okay, because we have a number of questions. Hold that time, and they have mattered back.
15:01:13 But okay, keep Mark Caroline in the loop
15:01:18 Alright great well, feels like full day work, and there's still 2Â h left in the day.
15:01:23 So with that I will adjourn this meeting of the January seventeenth Board of County Commissioners meeting have a great week.
15:01:28 Everyone. Thank you. Chair.