HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption08:58:18 Yeah, the phone and the courthouse is right on. So let's go ahead and start it
08:58:26 Good morning, everyone. Welcome to this January ninth meeting at the Board of County Commissioners.
08:58:33 I will call this meeting to order
08:58:37 And
08:58:39 Get the AV. Capture going alright. First thing on our agenda, is the public comment.
08:58:48 So we'll look to the public. We have no in in the chambers with us today. But if you'd like to make a comment, you can click, raise hand, or if you're on the phone star 9 to
make a public comment
08:59:09 Then, none. Now. We'll go ahead and keep public comment open until 9 30, in case anyone is is prompted to to make a comment.
08:59:22 And we're joined by Commissioner Dean remotely today.
08:59:25 Welcome to, and we have a fairly light agenda as as things continue to ramp up.
08:59:33 So while we wait to see if there is any more public comment, you guys want to take a look at the consent agenda
08:59:48 I had one question, maybe, for you. Heidi. It looks like, is this some of the behavioral health distributions?
08:59:56 But not all. Is that correct?
08:59:58 Let me look therapeutic support definitely was, I thought the currency reform was too.
09:00:04 Oh, yeah, I mean, there's there's many more than this
09:00:10 Yeah.
09:00:08 Okay, that's I figured there would be. But so this is just the first few that have been contracts have been completed.
09:00:14 Okay.
09:00:13 Yeah, now, there's there's yeah.
09:00:17 Thank you.
09:00:20 That's coming. Great to see the incentive.
09:00:23 We approved last year for for retaining an incentivizing, a hiring as of corrections, staff
09:00:34 Yeah, and always glad to see work being done on the Brennan community Center
09:00:38 For sure little little last scope creep. There is.
09:00:42 Yeah, you start taking off some of that sighting and see that we all the real issues that are underneath.
09:00:47 So glad that we're taking care of it now rather than waiting longer till we get that capital project going.
09:00:51 So I'm sure it's appreciated by the community down there.
09:00:54 Also point out that I, the little pagoda out there has been Redone by volunteer labor, with the support of of facilities too so great to see that Jim, getting shined a little
bit.
09:01:07 Where are we at with the roof? Repair on those?
09:01:11 The 2 community centers, that's part of the capital conversation that we're gonna have last time we saw a budget Pre Brandon community that had been zeroed out my call that
out.
09:01:20 But yeah, we were just seeing a few yeah, I think I've stopped my feet enough about that.
09:01:28 But I won't be
09:01:30 No, it all. It's all straightforward and good stuff.
09:01:36 Small.
09:01:38 No.
09:01:39 Yep, getting go. And still, you know, we'll we'll build up, maybe to the pace of last year by the end of the year, right
09:01:47 I'll move to a privilege of the consent. Agenda
09:01:49 No second. Okay, it's been moved and executed looking to the public again to see if anyone's been moved.
09:01:57 Comments, seeing none. I will call the question all in favor of approving and adopting the consent.
09:02:03 Agenda, as presented, indicate by saying, I hi, that is unanimous.
09:02:05 Hi
09:02:08 Alright! Well, that's pretty much the day we guys see you next week.
09:02:14 No kidding. Let's why don't we go into a briefing? Will you?
09:02:19 Wanna cater you at a place that you can look at.
09:02:22 Let your calendar
09:02:23 I am. Yes.
09:02:25 Alright. You wanna you wanna take her away
09:02:27 Sure. Yeah. Busy week last week, even though it was a short week.
09:02:34 We spent Wednesday morning interviewing for communication, specialist position, and there is a good consensus in the group.
09:02:44 Unfortunately, our Number one candidate did not accept the positions to work back to the drawing board on that so, but we have some.
09:02:49 Some value.
09:02:52 We have some, some other candidates to to consider. So so you had a good conversation with Congressman Kimmer's office about a few things, but most exciting is that the that
recompes Grant that Kimber put into the Chips act was appropriated at 2
09:03:13 100 million dollars in the the Federal spending package, and his office is really hoping that we will apply and offering some help in and putting together applications.
09:03:24 So we still have some time, but they're hoping that the real writing will be done in about 6 months.
09:03:28 We're thinking it might be a little more like 9 months, but just starting to put together some stakeholders, the energy is likely.
09:03:38 The lead on that, that's very exciting. To think of having some big dollars to the again.
09:03:46 Those are focused on the prime age employment. I think it's 29 to 49 fish, but also funding for lots of things to support that, including housing and child care and workforce
development.
09:03:58 Stay tuned. We had a transit Advisory Board group Wednesday afternoon had really good conversations about a couple of specific rooms.
09:04:10 You know that group is is tested with the increasing writers.
09:04:14 And so we were able to brainstorm on a couple of specific rooms, and hopefully they'll come back with some recommendations to the Transit board.
09:04:22 Wednesday morning, trying to do way too many things at once.
09:04:27 On my way to Olympia, which was largely stymied by core cell reception that was able to participate mostly through most of the I Economic Development Council Board meeting and
partly with some help from the county and also the successful Fundraising they have stabilized their finances for the
09:04:46 Rest of the year, that we are in the middle of a strategic planning efforts and hoping to really narrow the scope a little bit of of how the Edc can be most effective.
09:04:57 What is their role? Head first or less love steering committee meeting with the Association of Counties and Olympia all Wednesday afternoon long, long meeting getting ready
for the legislative chef session, and lots of bills starting to be dropped it's
09:05:19 Gonna be a another whirlwind of the session.
09:05:22 And then Marathon. This time the long session.
09:05:25 So I will be providing weekly updates to you guys on some of our priorities and also was x priorities I'm sure you'll have.
09:05:37 We'll have stuff to record on, too. So that session starts right now.
09:05:40 Actually as as we start. Let's see, yeah, that's what that was.
09:05:48 Thursday, Friday. Worked with public health, outlining our climate change.
09:05:55 Agenda for the Board of Health for upcoming meetings came up with a good list of some upcoming speakers and presentations, as well as brainstorms.
09:06:06 Some further out that we haven't yet committed to, but some some good ideas generated in that meeting, then went to the Northwest Maritime Center, met with their leadership
and the pupils have partnership to talk about kind of overnight.
09:06:19 Interesting priorities. There you could see the maritime center potentially, being a good partner for the recomplete there.
09:06:28 I'm always impressed with all the work they're doing.
09:06:30 Okay, had a phone call with an alien to Suza, who has approached us and wants us to consider doing a creating a human Rights commission with the city of Port Townsend.
09:06:44 So as we learn a little bit more, and do some research, and maybe bringing that back to you.
09:06:49 But just want to be careful on how we proceed with that.
09:06:57 , and that was, that was largely my week
09:07:01 Great does sound like a busy pack. Full week
09:07:04 Yeah. Now, now, with the legislative session starting, I think it's just gonna be like that from here on us
09:07:10 Yeah, yeah, I have a few legislative things on the horizon farther out.
09:07:17 But I'll be in Olympia on the twenty-sixth, for our trust line transfer Lobby Day, and we pulled up our own little lobby day and our meeting going around meeting with Key members
of capital Budget and also there's a policy Bill around
09:07:34 Trust Land Transfers meeting with other members as well.
09:07:39 Not just capital budget. And then there's the Washington wildlife and Recreation Coalition Lobby Day.
09:07:46 Cool.
09:07:46 On the second, first and second of February, and I'm gonna go down for that second and February have more meetings with our legislators on other issues, and then also the Coalition
has a reception in the Governor's mansion on the
09:08:03 Second, which is always a good good time to get reconnected to old colleagues for me.
09:08:08 So look forward to that. So that's also I touch bases briefly with, I think, just Kate, last.
09:08:16 I know both of you about the Nico legislative I don't know what they don't call it conference, but in in DC.
09:08:27 You know I I participated in the Federal when the was Sax Federal Issues Committee and proposed housing, and they they took it and put it at the top of their list.
09:08:39 And so when I reached out to Eric Johnson and said, Should I consider attending this Nico, DC.
09:08:44 Event he said, well, yeah, I mean, you're on. You're on the Federal priorities, and you've had a lot of good input, and it would be great to have you know you there.
09:08:53 So I'm trying to see if I can shuffle that into my deck in terms of the calendar.
09:08:58 But might attend that. So those are my legislative items.
09:09:05 Mrc. Meeting last week on Tuesday evening, and we are dealing with a couple of derelict boats in the waters around us, and I am personally raised my hand to help deal with one
that is under the Indian.
09:09:19 Island Bridge that doesn't have anybody to be its natural kind of lead.
09:09:27 It's on, on Private Tidelands. But the owner of the vessel has kind of washed his hands of it, and so I'm working with the Dnr Derek vessel removal program and meeting with
them tomorrow.
09:09:41 To talk about how to get that boat out of the water.
09:09:43 There's funding for that. So there's Federal funding through the Northwest Straits Foundation Commission, actually.
09:09:51 And also through the Dvrp program at Dnr.
09:09:56 So it won't be something that we have to pay for.
09:09:58 Just provide a little sweat, equity. So I drove, drove over the bridge yesterday and saw it sitting there in shallow water, and those those worry me so something I've been waking
up in the night about.
09:10:12 Let's see. Last Wednesday we had a strategy session for the trust and transfer legislative day.
09:10:22 We had it. We had a behavioral health. New member of our Behavioral Health Advisory Committee, Amanda Foraro is our Board of Health representative to the Advisory Committee,
and we are.
09:10:35 We did an orientation for her. Just kind of what?
09:10:38 What behavioral health, Advisory Committee does and the funding the one tenth funding and answered any questions she had.
09:10:46 But you know she's up to speed on a lot of these issues.
09:10:49 So was just a good conversation about the work of the committee, and Thursday I did a walk around with Erin Berg from the port, mostly prompted by all the the King tides and
the storm recent storm damage, and storm damage.
09:11:07 We have. We walked around the boat haven a bit, and we lost mile post 0 of the Olympic Discovery trail.
09:11:15 So so we're gonna have to move that down. Talk about kind of the reorientation of the trail through the port.
09:11:21 That's a topic that both Peninsula trails coalition and the port have been kind of grappling with over the last couple of years.
09:11:28 But this loss of mile post 0 kind of puts a pen in it same street still in the mix I think that would be an ideal that we've had that recommendation.
09:11:44 Yeah, yeah. It's still part of the conversation, for sure.
09:11:49 And then he's like. But he. So we walked around and talked about what happened in the boat haven on the King tied day, but then he said, you should really see Point Hudson and
I said, Well, we've we've got time so we jumped to my car.
09:12:01 And drove down and looked to Point Hudson and the King tide actually did more damage in Point Hudson, it appears, than in the boat Haven.
09:12:09 There was some pretty significant sloughing of the shoreline inside.
09:12:16 Inside point, Hudson. So on the north side kind of in front of what's that restaurant?
09:12:24 Docs, yeah. Well, sure side of docs on the Marina side.
09:12:28 Quite a big chunk of dirt is gone, so there's a lot of wondering at this point how to shore up the Marina.
09:12:39 There, as they replace the jetty, so they're getting close on having all the rock.
09:12:47 The last, the last load of rock was delivered to be put in the the north jetty, and you know they're basically gonna do the same process.
09:12:56 Next year with the South jetty. They'll start work after wooden boat festival.
09:13:02 Let's see. So it was a good walk around with Erinberg, and just like to do those every couple of months.
09:13:10 But King tides kind of are the are the good highlighter on those events.
09:13:18 Let's see, I met with Beulah from Dove House just because I had never really gone to Dove House, and how to sit down with her, and we had a great conversation.
09:13:29 You know she she's most interested in seeing energy and attention going to workforce housing has just happened.
09:13:40 A lot of not her normal clients reaching out families, plain old families, and the community reaching out with what you know, problems finding, housing, and she just feels like
that's an area that needs more focus.
09:13:56 So we talked a lot about the habitat Mason Street project and the hadlock sewer, and how important that was going to be for filling some of that gap.
09:14:04 But I mean I feel like I don't. I'm not.
09:14:08 I'm being not the Non Housing Commissioner. I feel like I'm getting in a lot of housing conversations lately.
09:14:13 But you know I don't know where you guys are at in terms of workforce housing and and what conversations are like at Housing Housing Fund board to even talk about workforce
housing at the Housing Fund Board. We would love I mean, it's definitely a Topic of conversation.
09:14:31 As we do the Five-year Plan. It's something we want to consider, and that' the funds we have to alligate allocate are responsive to workforce housing which is the challenge
with with the public sector funding you know, it's all 60
09:14:44 percent of below. Ami, right? Yeah, well, it feels like all the work we're doing towards the headbox, or is, you know, achieving some of that goal of increasing workforce housing
in the community.
09:14:57 But it's something I'm hearing more and more as I go go around and meet with folks, and it came up for sure with Beulah last week Thursday evening.
09:15:07 I met with the Peninsula trails, coalition, their their kind of bigger board meeting and a lot of conversation about the big raise.
09:15:15 Grant that kits apps really leaning into holding a lot of the putting together of the raise. Grand.
09:15:22 But we'll be asked to provide letters of support, and you know, planning input and all that.
09:15:27 It's gonna be more of a planning grant, because the timeline for the raise grant got moved up.
09:15:34 It was originally, I think, April, and now that's due in February.
09:15:37 So they're focusing that ask on on planning for the largely, the connector between kits App and Odt, yeah.
09:15:52 But there's there's like 5 different options that have been drawn out for that route, and so it's a lot of work to do on that.
09:16:02 On Friday I met with Chief Black, talked about. Just got it an update from him on how the levy campaigns going, and wanted to talk to him a little bit about Trailhead Park and
the work that volunteers have been doing out there to create fire access into trailhead Park and had a
09:16:23 Good conversation about those items. Friday afternoon. I have a long meeting with a constituent who's concerned about what's happening on the property neighboring hers, and
trying to figure out if there's any real leverage point for her within the mix of what's happening on the property adjacent to
09:16:40 Her, and I realize how frustrating these. Yeah. And I remember David Sullivan telling me that was the most frustrating thing about his tenure as a Commissioner is these kind
of one off concerns about what's happening on neighboring properties.
09:16:54 And sometimes it's it's good. I mean, it's always good to hear about them.
09:16:57 And sometimes there's very clear, egregious things going on and other times it's hard to figure out what the leverage point is.
09:17:06 I think those are the high points of last week, I mean busy, busy week, busy first week of the year, even though it was a short week. And yeah.
09:17:18 How about you, Greg? And I'll make one call right now, or about 1010Â min or so left in public comment.
09:17:26 If there's anyone that is moved to make a comment, you can click, raise hand at any time.
09:17:30 Looks like Mr. Tish would like to be brought over
09:17:38 And if the caller would like to make a public comment, you can hit Star 9 to raise your hand, we will first hear from Mr.
09:17:45 Tears. See you there? Good morning. We have. Yeah.
09:17:47 Yup!
09:17:49 Good good morning. Commissioners. First Commissioner Brotherson.
09:17:55 You might want to bring your Mike a little bit closer.
09:17:58 Thank you.
09:17:56 You're pretty pretty quiet this morning, for some reason. Thank thank you.
09:18:01 I I want to make, not necessarily public comic, but more or less a Psa.
09:18:08 Just an announcement. I'm I'm the chair of our local Ferry Advisory Committee.
09:18:13 Have been for a while, and I just wanted to let people know or remind people, because they probably I hope I've already seen it already.
09:18:20 That State fairy system is having a couple of system.
09:18:24 Wide community webinar meetings this week first is gonna be on Wednesday at 1230 pm.
09:18:31 And the second is going to be. The next day, the twelfth at 6 Pm.
09:18:36 And you know there, it's going to be a Zoom Webinar and links, for that can be found on the fairy's website under the community participation or community involvement page little
bit difficult to find.
09:18:51 But you should be able to to get out. I think it's a useful for people to hear not only what's going on on on this route, of course, but everywhere else in the ferry system,
because you know, our service here has been certainly substandard for the last couple of years for a
09:19:09 Lot of reasons, some of which are Covid related, some of which are just workforce shortage related engine general, and there are no quick answers for that.
09:19:21 But you know, if you want to have your voice heard, there's a question unanswered.
09:19:28 Session going to be done. It's gonna be moderated.
09:19:31 You won't be able to speak directly to all 5 or 700 participants.
09:19:34 But the the the folks at ferry system will be taking in questions and and feeding them to their experts, to their senior staff will be on hand to answer hopefully.
09:19:45 Answer those questions. So those who can please join in. Listen up.
09:19:52 See what's going on. If you're unhappy about having only one vote service, make your voice heard.
09:19:58 You may or may not know that port towns and Coopville route is just about last on the priority list.
09:20:04 Right now in terms of restoring service, and so, frankly, my personal opinion, I'm not very hopeful that we're gonna get it back real soon.
09:20:14 Given, the the ongoing workforce shortages, particularly when it comes to the senior crew of the votes.
09:20:21 There's a a great shortage of qualified captains and other senior officers. Anyway.
09:20:28 That's that's the negative. The positive is, please join in and listen.
09:20:33 See what's going on. Thanks very much.
09:20:36 Thank you very much. Mr. Cheers. And just to repeat, that's 1230 pm.
09:20:40 This Wednesday, or 6 Pm. On Thursday.
09:20:43 I'll try to join you guys on on Thursday and get a more in-depth.
09:20:47 Look, we get updates on the regular from the the varies off that wash dot, but it's not a lot of optimism in in those reports.
09:20:56 Say it's a lot of capacity issues in your. I would say that you're your assessment of the priority of the Coopville route is is is dead on anyone else that would like to make
a public comment today
09:21:14 Kate had to step away, but Heidi, any any response to, I mean, I wrote the Times down.
09:21:21 I would. I'd always like to hear what's going on with Ferry, so I'll plan on attending one of those
09:21:28 Great. Okay? Well, we'll keep the public comment open. Thank you, Mr.
09:21:31 Tears for your comments, and I will look back at my past week, you know.
09:21:38 Busy, as I said, mostly kind of getting in the office, rejiggering the schedule and getting things lined up.
09:21:44 Couple of meetings doing a 3, 60 review, a staff review at at Orca.
09:21:51 The clean Air Agency, so did a couple of those I had lunch with Chief Black to hear more about the Cares program.
09:21:58 That will be coming soon. That's the kind of Co responder mental health, professional and emt embedded with throughout the county, not just East.
09:22:08 Jefferson district, but everywhere with association of cities.
09:22:14 Grant that's coming up here and I think it'll get live by march.
09:22:18 Really exciting program, then sat in with the the Building Association, and Mr.
09:22:26 Collie with a with the meeting about the Site Development Review data outcomes.
09:22:32 And you know I think the the takeaway is they're really dealing with a perfect storm at Dcd.
09:22:39 But progress is really been made in in moving through those, I think 44 had been done since the last meeting a month ago, continuing to meet between Dcd.
09:22:47 And the builders just to do everything that can to really improve the process.
09:22:54 There's, I think, a couple variables that have contributed to the delay.
09:22:58 You know they intergo conversion, some some staff out, for, you know, appropriate Pto.
09:23:06 And and and just staffing in general, and then the the complexity of this new Sdr program above all, and sometimes trying to be really accommodating to the public, ends up with
not enough data to really process the request.
09:23:23 So it ends up with a lot of recuperated work that the Dcd.
09:23:28 Is doing on, on some of these challenging site development reviews.
09:23:32 But progress is being made, and I would say it was a very optimistic meeting.
09:23:37 Take away. Let's see the I rode along the next morning, as well as the the the Jefferson County Food Bank made their, submitted their paperwork at Dcd.
09:23:52 To construct their new facility and quill, seeing really exciting to to get moving on that then we had the Olympic Area Agency on Aging Council of Governments meeting on on
Thursday good meeting.
09:24:05 I think they are the only fully staffed area area agency on aging in the State right now.
09:24:13 So so they're doing doing really well with that, did a agenda planning with with Mark for today?
09:24:21 Visited Cosby Brown saw the new, the the tiny shelters the community built put in looks, fantastic talk to, you know, a couple people down there just over overjoyed at the progress
that's being made, and also really happy to announce that only cap got awarded a partial
09:24:40 Award from commerce for the rebuilding of the shelter at the phase one site.
09:24:46 Everyone was just moved from they got a 1 million dollars out of the 4.5.
09:24:50 They were asking, and no one got full funding. Basically. So commerce is kind of put a placeholder in it.
09:24:57 They're looking for more funds to do, more substantial awards for those that did get partial awards.
09:25:01 This coming spring. So really really good. First step in funding that construction of a new kind of purpose-built shelter and permanent support of housing facility, or some
of those folks who have been at our emergency shelter.
09:25:15 You know, going on a decade. So that was really great.
09:25:18 Koswell Brown's going great still more rooms.
09:25:22 Talk to some, some other advocates, and you know anyone that wants to go through the coordinated entry program process, there is still still room left. There was a little bit
of flooding with some of the king tides there, too.
09:25:35 So there are a few sites they don't want to get.
09:25:37 They had to do some additional trenching and add a French train.
09:25:41 So just kind of testing that out before they put people in there.
09:25:44 Seventh haven is also moving along. Well, we will have people occupied by March the first.
09:25:53 So it's it's coming along. Well, there's a couple couple of gaps, some some disagreements between contractors and subcontractors that need to get worked out.
09:26:02 But you know the the end is insight. So these are our bumps in the road that we're gonna have to iron out.
09:26:08 I was up there for something else, not seventh day in the related.
09:26:12 Just a good look at the building. It looks great. Looks fantastic.
09:26:14 Yeah, so that's exciting. Met with the the port.
09:26:20 Let low village council, and she plaque was there talking about the levy lyft as well.
09:26:26 Great to New new Chair, David Karen did a good job, and I'll always grade to interact with the the village council to bring some more guests.
09:26:37 They always really appreciate it when I bring assessor Chatman out to talk about assessment we'll see if some of the other new electives and and returning electives and directors
will will come out.
09:26:46 They're very interested, of course, in the the closures of the Hood Canal bridge that are coming this year.
09:26:52 The scheduled closures, as well as the the roundabout construction.
09:26:54 That's gonna start here pretty imminently
09:26:57 I didn't make it out, but some of the folks that had talked to us about the Shine road issue met with washdot and public works last week, and hope to get a debrief about about
that.
09:27:08 With the what they found out about that me meeting with Washdot about local access during the roundabout construction and such.
09:27:16 Then we had our house, HUD house America. Not a lot to report.
09:27:20 I just let them know that hard number of moving in by March first seventh Haven, which is the the numbers that we committed to to move folks from homelessness into housing.
09:27:33 We committed 22 half of the units at Seventh Haven are dedicated to folks moving from, you know.
09:27:39 Either show or transitional housing into permanent housing half of the units, and then what are the other half?
09:27:47 Oh, 60%. And below so still, for it's not exactly work.
09:27:52 4,000, but they don't have to be executing home business, and then there's quite a few also that are dedicated to other stakeholders, you know, death House is muted or 2 base
side as a unit or 2.
09:28:04 I think there are few to courts do so. There's some that are dedicated to partners as well, and that was my week before we go to Mark.
09:28:12 We'll give one more call out to the public coming upon 9, 30.
09:28:18 But if anyone would like to make a public comment, we would love to hear from you, click, raise hand or star 9. If you're on the phone
09:28:28 Okay.
09:28:32 Seeing none, we'll we'll pass it over to you, mark anything you want to report from last week.
09:28:36 Thank thank you, Greg, as I think others have mentioned short week.
09:28:42 So Tuesday we had a board meeting, and it was short.
09:28:45 Not as short as today's gonna be. But, like you said, we're ramping up on Tuesday.
09:28:51 We spent the morning interviewing 3 candidates. For our part, time communication, specialist position, 3 good candidates and selected one and and and what I called the selected
candidate.
09:29:04 I was informed that another job come available, and that, and that she would be taking that job offer rather than ours.
09:29:13 So we're gonna regroup later this week on that.
09:29:17 And then, Greg, you mentioned the meeting with the housing, the builders, Own Builders Association, and Dcd. Staff.
09:29:26 I agree with your characterization of that meeting, and I think things will only improve as time goes on.
09:29:32 Hopefully, the new staff, the Dcds. Brought on board will stay with us for an extended period, and we'll get over this hump and have calm waters going forward.
09:29:46 Then on the fifth, probably the most momentous thing for me.
09:29:52 Last week is that we all got paid you munice, human capital management, modules.
09:29:58 That's exciting an enormous achievement, and the auditor's office and Sarah and Kristen and Sarah Mcintyre, and it all the it folks, I mean.
09:30:09 A huge effort and I don't know if you noticed your pay advice has a lot more info on it than a used to, and all the numbers checked out.
09:30:17 We do have some minor hiccups that we're sorting out, but all in all, a huge, huge deal and then in April, hopefully, the employee, self-service module will be available.
09:30:30 So employees can check their own lead balances and make changes to their pay account.
09:30:34 Yeah, from the comfort of their home or from Greece or Italy, or wherever they might be, so that anyway, I'm really, really happy about about that.
09:30:45 And then Greg and I met to plan the very tiny agenda for today.
09:30:50 And then I had a weekly check in with Chris Coy.
09:30:54 He was showing all kinds of energy and innovative thinking. So I really look forward to meeting with him every other week.
09:31:02 And then on Friday I met with the financial team, and that was Stacy, our treasurer, Judy, our finance manager, and some other folks where we did sort of an after action review
of the Munis payroll implementation to make sure that we have the issues written down and responsibility assigned
09:31:23 To who needs to work on fixing what? And then I had a very nice meeting with Monty and Sarah Melonson to discuss the public works collected bargaining agreement money has some
really great ideas for the future, and
09:31:42 That will play into the workshop. We're gonna have, or the I'm sorry the executive session we're gonna have next Tuesday to talk about collective bargaining agreements in general,
a lot of innovative thinking being done on that topic and then following that meeting I met
09:31:58 With Monty Stacey Pradar, treasured and duty shepherd or finance manager, to talk about sewer funding and you'll hear much more about that.
09:32:07 This afternoon. We're really getting serious about this project. Now, money is going to begin to award contracts, and so we've got to get strategic and how we deal with this
cash flow needs.
09:32:21 And so and so on, and so that was my week last week.
09:32:26 I just want to say, Mark, you're doing an awesome job whenever you report all the things you're working on, or you know your weekly report it's such a diverse set of topics,
and you're just killing it.
09:32:36 So thank you for your work. I appreciate it. Thank you.
09:32:40 Kind of what you board members getting better at juggling, I guess.
09:32:44 Yeah, and I, the Munis is A is a huge step I keep thinking about southwest airlines and and the debacle that they're old.
09:32:53 Software is created. For you know, thousands and thousands of people, and and sometimes there's a lot of growing pains that come with updating software as we're learning with
inner Gov and have learned with Munis again.
09:33:04 And again, but it's it's worth it. It is.
09:33:07 Yes, and then, once the rough waters are behind you, you have 1015 years of relatively smooth sailing.
09:33:15 That's what great!
09:33:18 Oh, thank you and I we I think Mr. Dean is taking care of other stuff.
09:33:26 So I don't know what it means that we wanna let's look at our agenda, which is, as we say, very light. Today.
09:33:35 We have 1 30. We're gonna talk about Arpa, and it's gonna go into the sewer quite a bit, too, and that in that conversation, right?
09:33:42 Just to talk about the the needs, the the capacity we, the slack.
09:33:47 I guess we need to preserve for public works. Yeah, the 2 items are liquidity and bid uncertainty. And so those are the 2 big items we do have some requests for arpa funding
that we'll chat about and we need to look at calendaring
09:34:02 Going forward, also. Yeah, we can do that. Now, can we? We certainly can't.
09:34:06 I'm happy to go first, I mean not Calendar, for I think he's talking about calendaring for the sewer.
09:34:13 But he meant this week. Yeah, money's gonna bring a timeline of expected contract awards, and I don't know if he's gonna put dollar amounts out there because we don't, wanna
you know, they always do engineers estimates on work of that.
09:34:26 Nature.
09:34:29 All right. But yeah, let's let's see what your your upcoming week is like hiding.
09:34:35 So today, obviously with you all. And then just wanna say, I'll say at the beginning of this next Monday is a holiday.
09:34:46 So we're not meeting next Monday, but we're meeting on the 17.
09:34:50 So, and then I believe that we have, and we also have an update from Dr.
09:34:56 Barry on the seventeenth. Yeah, anyway. So this week, tomorrow morning I have a meeting with the Dnr.
09:35:05 Derlick vessel removal program to talk about that boat sitting under the Indian Island bridge, because it's not really any anybody's hot potato, and I'm on the derelict vessel
task force of the Marine Resources Committee and Fiberglass Boat Recycling is Ben
09:35:22 Passion of mine for the last, maybe 6 years. So here's my first chance to put an ore in the water and try and actually get a boat removed.
09:35:32 So look forward to working with the Dnr program.
09:35:34 I've worked with Troy Wood. The project manager down there, and he's he's a great human being, and it's done a lot of important work for marine waters near shore waters and
look forward to meeting the rest of his team, and get that boat out of the water
09:35:49 So that's tomorrow. And then I have overlapping tourism, coordinating council and Behavioral Health Advisory Committee.
09:36:01 So I'll attend the first hour of Tcc and then click into the behavioral health meeting
09:36:15 I, when I was updating my calendar last week, I'm like, Oh, an overlapping one.
09:36:23 And then tomorrow evening. I just think this is this is in a well.
09:36:28 It's not a Commissioner thing, but it's Max Grover's seventieth birthday.
09:36:30 Max as a local love, beloved artist, and he's having a seventieth birthday party.
09:36:37 So I will be attending that I'm sure it'll be a whoop. Whoop!
09:36:40 Do? Wednesday is a light day during the day, app overlapping meetings in the evening with Olympic Discovery Trail Board, and then the grains probably attend the Olympic Discovery
trail.
09:36:54 This time. Sometimes I pick and choose. Thursday. Mark and I are doing a presentation to the clown.
09:37:03 Ltch. Committee on the kind kind of Jefferson County's process for allocating El tech funds and the types of projects that we consider.
09:37:15 I think you've got that on your calendar, too, Mark, but if not, I can handle it fine.
09:37:20 I've got. I'll look and see if I can make that. Okay.
09:37:25 And then Friday is the first Washington Association of Counties Legislature.
09:37:32 Update. I'll just be attending to hear the update.
09:37:36 So not a lot on the calendar this week.
09:37:40 But a lot of work to do in the mix, which is great.
09:37:43 It'll give me time to actually do the steps to get the right agencies involved in lifting that boat out of the water.
09:37:50 So, yeah. And then just the sixteenth is holiday.
09:37:57 Martin Luther King. Day. Very important. Holiday. So that's it's pretty light week for me.
09:38:03 Great sounds, pretty, busy, I'm sure you'll fill the time.
09:38:09 Let's see, tomorrow I'm me with some of the folks from quil Scene that were skeptical about only Caps Management Community Center in the morning, coffee down in real life.
09:38:20 You, yeah, today, you know, as I say, we're doing this 360 review at Orca.
09:38:27 There is one at 110'clock, so if we can get done by 11, I can go I can participate in that.
09:38:32 And that little conversation with the director, engineering director, or then agenda setting for Board of Health, has been moved to Tuesdays.
09:38:44 So we're doing that with Glenn, the clerk and Apple, and Dr.
09:38:49 Barry, then the Quil scene. Brennan empowered teens.
09:38:53 Coalition gets the band back together. On Tuesday afternoon, for the first time since school started, or second time since school started, and then the next day Orca, a lot
of worker this week we have the personnel committee at 9 and the general meeting is at the same time as the Olympic
09:39:12 Peninsula, Strategic Planning, Rfp group, so I won't be able to participate in that.
09:39:16 It's really, just planning the Rfp. Though it looks pretty good.
09:39:20 So we'll miss that, and then more Orca Personnel Review meeting with a couple of members of the Housing Fund Board this week, including one for once today, and then one Wednesday
afternoon, and then only Cap is meeting Wednesday evening.
09:39:39 We have a new board member from Palm County, the newly elected committee or French, will be joining us, and Marcos is instead, so that will be sad.
09:39:51 Sad to see Mark go always a pleasure to work with him, but but look forward to working with Mike French for the first time.
09:39:56 There's been a on Thursday, more, Orca.
09:40:00 There was a subcommittee about compensation, the compensation study is almost done.
09:40:06 So we're gonna be debriefing that information.
09:40:10 Couple more meetings with the 3 60 at 11. Pinky is, I think, taking not sure. Are you?
09:40:18 With there for the inner Gov update mark. There's an inter go update at 11.
09:40:23 So pinky asked, what I want to know, and I really said, I really want to understand what it looks like from both sides of the desk.
09:40:33 So, taking taking a term from our our builders, this building association meeting?
09:40:38 Yes, and then continuing with with Mark, might be competing for.
09:40:43 His attentions. On Thursday we're joining John Morrow on on Kptz with no set agenda, just talking about.
09:40:51 You know how well we work together, I think county and city, and then following that, we're staying with Kate Ptz and going to tour the the tower site that we supported with
$65,000 for building the new tower up there on Morgan Hill.
09:41:08 So we'll go look at that next. And then the Behavioral Health Committee meeting is that afternoon a couple.
09:41:15 I'm not a voting member on this on this group, but with the 1 million dollar Grant, we've got a couple asks one to supplement that cares program that we've talked about a little
bit, and the other for harm reduction efforts and outreach that that's been ongoing
09:41:30 I think, through only cap, but with a contractor. The cares, the the fire.
09:41:35 Yep. So with that I should have mentioned that was one thing, that the fire chief and I talked about last week, so no, I have.
09:41:44 It hasn't been scheduled, and I'm like maybe I'm gonna get to right along with our local I I bulked in my scheduling and said, Yeah, you know, another month, and I can just
write along with the ones.
09:41:53 That will be in Jefferson County. Yeah, I'm going to do the same thing.
09:41:57 The trip to Morgan Hill is at one. The radio broadcast is that at noon, when at 1230, meeting there at 1220, okay, we go on from 1230 to one, and then just meeting there after
that, with with and I don't have you on that I'm looking at that
09:42:17 Ltte thing, grammar, you're not on that.
09:42:19 So we're not competing
09:42:22 Explicitly. No always gonna be Friday the thirteenth.
09:42:29 A fairly light day, couple more meetings with directors at Orca for the 360.
09:42:34 I will also linden ear to the. The Wassac legislative update there's a recycling bill that I'm excited about already. I've got.
09:42:44 I think it's very tangible bills that get me excited and do you know the bill number?
09:42:49 I I can get it for you. I sent it to Al.
09:42:52 We had a brief conversation about it. Christina Roles is the as a sponsor, and it would start making producers pay for the recycling costs.
09:43:04 And I think talk about making a bottle will you send it to me?
09:43:08 I will now, since I said it in an open public sense.
09:43:10 Yes, and then when the county coordination is third third, third, Friday or second Friday, I think.
09:43:19 Okay. It's not on my, on my calendar yet.
09:43:23 So that would be the next I'll forward it to you. Cool.
09:43:27 Thank you. And I also note, you know, that as as Heidi said next Monday is Martin Luther King Day.
09:43:33 Our calendars. Don't reflect that we're closed on Monday yet, but they are closed on Monday, and we'll be here on Tuesday, so we'll have lots of conflicts on Tuesday, the seventeenth
09:43:43 And that is my upcoming week
09:43:49 Mark, how's your week? Look, it's looking fairly busy, of course, today, with the board more morning we had a meeting scheduled to regroup on the communication specialist might
have to reschedule that because Stacy Prata is out all day tomorrow, and then at 10
09:44:08 30, a special risk management meeting Mr. Huntsucker has been out of town a good while, and so we canceled the previous regular risk meeting, and so we have a number of items
to address tomorrow.
09:44:23 Then at 2 in the afternoon, 18. It's been over a month since we've gotten together, and that's Kevin Street.
09:44:31 From ud, Aaron Burg from the port, and John Marl from the city, and then behavioral Health Advisory Committee.
09:44:39 I've been invited to that, so I I will have it on in the background and if I need to contribute, I will.
09:44:46 On the eleventh. I am Chris coy and I are traveling out to the chimicum school campus to meet with Scott Mock.
09:44:55 He's got 24,000 square feet of empty building space.
09:45:00 Building space that you can't renovate who can't afford to renovate and can't afford to re-purpose, and so we're just taking a look at the space to see if if the county might
be able to use some of it for various
09:45:16 Purposes. Then lunch with John Morrow, and then at 10'clock the North Olympic Peninsula City Manager County Administrator get together from 2 to one, and then the meeting with
Stacy Paradigm Judy Shepherd and Sarah
09:45:36 Melonson to discuss. Cba negotiating parameters that we'll bring to to the board on the seventeenth, then on the twelfth, enter, go back update, Greg with you, and then, of
course, Kptz, and then Wasack has an an Arpa
09:45:56 Administration, a quarterly check in just to see how people are doing with our funds.
09:46:02 I haven't taken part of in that lately, but I will this week, because I think we're doing very clever things with our Arpa funds.
09:46:09 And weekly check in with Chris Coy and a weekly check-in with Brent Butler.
09:46:15 And then on Friday, a day just the legislative virtual update.
09:46:19 At noon
09:46:23 Okay, and just going to the following week. Real quick. I see.
09:46:30 Atl quickly put the Jefferson County coordination on my on my calendar.
09:46:35 Is it usually a 1030, but just conflict with something with me.
09:46:40 So I'm I'm oh, you send it that's how it appeared.
09:46:45 Yeah, so after work on that, I'm it's at 1030. Yeah.
09:46:51 So meeting, that's meeting in person for the first time, so I'll likely be in and Blynn until 11, and then I was checking.
09:47:00 Are you? You and Heidi were? Gonna do a chamber update on the twentieth yeah, that's no, no, no! That was rescheduled to February. Yeah.
09:47:12 Oh, okay, city's going first this time. Okay? Sometime in the first week of February.
09:47:17 Here, I'll find it third of February.
09:47:21 Okay. 100'clock. Great. Just wanna make sure that, don't you know?
09:47:24 No show. The county update no more selling. Great. Yeah, we'll have to collaborate on how we approach that.
09:47:32 I did it last. Here, too, did I? Or Kate?
09:47:37 Maybe Kate did it. No, I think I did a last year, kid, and I split it one the year before, I think.
09:47:43 Yeah, I did it last year. You know something else that we should maybe think about.
09:47:48 Is usually an off election years. We do a road show. I have a note here.
09:47:56 Yeah, the Bocc outreach, we call them.
09:48:01 Yeah, I think last time was 2018, was it?
09:48:05 It's been a while and a good while. It's good court county coordination agenda topic, too, since it's, you know, traditionally been an opportunity to bring other electives and
directors with us.
09:48:16 Exactly. What do we hit? Brendan? Christine?
09:48:20 To the West End. Out of out of the hole I didn't go to time, but then the role I have now I probably will go to.
09:48:30 Yeah. And did you stay overnight or was it up?
09:48:33 We stayed overnight because their evening. What 60'clock, or 5, 30, or yeah. Yeah.
09:48:38 So we need to engage in a planning session
09:48:50 Cool.
09:48:57 And great! How's your week with Carolyn?
09:49:09 Oh, well, I hope it goes well. I would say that I am getting more meetings that are gonna be in person
09:49:20 The drive time thing is messing me up in a few instances, but it's we've gotten used to to being able to do meetings right after meetings I'm grateful for hybrid option for
some, so that I can still attend both but totally on the horizon something of interest
09:49:37 on the seventeenth in the evening. There's a meeting at the Tim Mcm.
09:49:43 Grange with the port and the short farm to kinda get community and on ports ownership potential ownership of the Short farm that'll be an interesting meeting.
09:49:57 Okay.
09:50:12 Well, we have nothing else on our agenda this this morning.
09:50:16 Lots lots of work to do. So I guess. Do we? And we don't really want to move stuff from this afternoon up up to the morning, because we I know that yeah, we've got hopefully,
we'll be able to get Kate back at that time, too.
09:50:33 Kate will not be returning
09:50:37 Okay.
09:50:40 To to include the afternoon
09:50:46 Okay, well, we'll still go. We will probably won't make any final decisions without Kate's participation.
09:50:54 Okay, well, should would do. We want to anything else that , this is odd.
09:51:03 This is odd. It's says the newest Commissioner, but you know we don't need to make busy work, so I guess if no one has anything else that they want all we have this afternoon
is the one agenda item which could take a little while. And I think we should still do the
09:51:24 Full presentation which Kate can can watch after the fact moving money into the super funds from capital improvement, and granted management.
09:51:38 Arpa monies for liquidity, so we'll be bringing first quarters, supplementals to the board to to do that, and and then also, hear from Stacey Brighta on line of credit.
09:51:52 Which he has to do to secure and when when Monty awards the large contract, the bio reactor, and all that we're gonna need, we think we're gonna need a 10 million dollar line
of credit to service, the invoices and account for the time wag and and
09:52:12 Reimbursements, and so on. Those 2 items we we like a motion and guidance to proceed along those lines, and we know the case supports both of those.
09:52:24 But deferring the decision on the 3 appetite requests.
09:52:30 That's perfectly fine. So K. To my end, and our Monty and Stacy attending in person, mark
09:52:41 Hey? Well, then, alright! Great! Well, we are adjourned until 1, 30, and enjoy, I'm sure.
13:28:31 Yes. Can you hear me?
13:28:30 You with us. Yep, we can hear you just fine, loud, and clear.
13:28:36 Yeah.
13:28:36 Glad you're able to make it. Okay? Well, I will call this this meeting of the board account Commissioners back into session joined by some some guests in in the audiences as
well as online, and we have one item in our agenda this afternoon a workshop on Arpa
13:28:54 funds, so I don't know you. You wanna take it away, Mark.
13:28:57 Yes, I will, and not. I'll start by welcoming a number of folks.
13:29:03 The 3 folks that have requests pending before the board.
13:29:09 Dr. Tamer Meredith, with Jefferson County Rural Library, district, is with us remotely.
13:29:16 Peter Langley, with maritime trades, and then, of course, our one and only Betsy Davis is in the room here, with the wooden building school, and then, of course, we have county
staff with us.
13:29:31 Stacy, praise pro great. That sorry?
13:29:36 Yeah, I had a prey to down any Stacey or treasurer, and then money reinders our public works director, and he's got a couple of folks here that he'll introduce when he takes
the microphone.
13:29:50 So a couple of things want to do. This is a Arpa workshop.
13:29:55 And so I'm going to share my screen and
13:30:02 We that'll project relatively. Well, so that it's legible.
13:30:07 Let me see if I can hide
13:30:11 Let me! Let me enlarge it just a little bit.
13:30:16 Can you read that? And then I'll get rid of this stuff at the top
13:30:24 Okay, so part of what I wanted to do is just a quick review of where our Arpa monies have gone on the left side.
13:30:34 We have a big square there, roughly, a square that talks about the general Arpa funds
13:30:41 Okay, is that better? Okay? So you can see we're the general Arpa for 22 went money to the port for a hydraulic lift money to Pd.
13:30:59 2 different payments, 1, 50, and 7 50 for broadband, 290,000 to the Olympic Peninsula, Y.M.C.A.
13:31:09 For Childcare, a 1 million and a half to only cap for the Mill Road project.
13:31:14 We have 650 there for the sewer.
13:31:17 We haven't seeing the exact amount there yet. I think we might have invoices yet to pay in January for 202-23-0000for covid test kits, 3 43 for premium pay for employees, little
bit of money for the recuperative public
13:31:37 Health Retreat for our public Health staff, and then 500,000 for business grants through the Edc.
13:31:44 And then next year we've committed a 1 million, almost a 1,000,003 for the sewer.
13:31:50 Then in the center we have the revenue sharing Arpa, and we did receive trunch.
13:31:57 One of $1,692,385.
13:32:03 Got that in October. Of 22 you can see the monies that were distributed there half a 1 million to the city.
13:32:13 No, I'm sorry to have a tax for humanity, for for affordable housing.
13:32:18 65,000 to Kptc. For their radio tower on Morgan Hill.
13:32:23 100,000 to the city for their community. Health and wellness center their study after, and then half a 1 million to the city of Port Townsend for their Evans Vista project,
and then 378,000 to Fort Warden, and that was to help them guarantee
13:32:43 dead payments, and then, if not needed for that, then they can use it for capital. And so that's a a quick review of where Arpa Monies have gone thus far, so
13:33:01 We have about a 149,000 and uncommitted revenue sharing Arpa funds from Tranche number one, we expect another 1.692-00-0000sometime this year, and I'm hoping that we don't have
to wait until October I think the
13:33:20 Delay last time was because Treasury had to determine what formula formula to use to distribute the funds that were appropriated for revenue, sharing counties so I'm hoping,
you know, maybe July August.
13:33:35 We'll see those meetings. And so, if you add the unused tranche, one monies, and what we expect in Tranche to that leaves about a 1,000,841, and revenue sharing funds that are
currently uncommitted down below that you know we had some potential funding candidates that
13:33:56 We've spoken to previously, and then of the General Arpa we have 593,000 left, so if you total the 1.8 and the 5 92, we have about 2.4 million in Arpa, that could be distributed,
and the 3 requests that
13:34:21 We have today, one from the boat school for a 100,001 from the library for 35, and one for maritime trades for 20.
13:34:29 Should the Board decide to make those awards, we would have about 2.3 left and Arpa Monies and a subsequent part of this presentation will be a discussion of the sewer project.
13:34:44 At which time we'll come back to these $2 amounts.
13:34:48 So I want to switch gears now and and focus on the 3 requests that we've received.
13:34:57 So if I can go to
13:35:08 Show all windows.
13:35:11 Not that one
13:35:18 I apologize. I oh, I know I have to stop sharing for a minute
13:35:28 Versus stop, share, button.
13:35:35 Oh, there it is. Okay.
13:35:58 There we go. I had 2 screens open and acrobat.
13:36:02 I had to close one so I could or switch so I could get to it. Okay?
13:36:06 So the request for the digital navigator from the library district and Dr.
13:36:12 Meredith is on on the call. I don't know whether we want to invite her to speak, but we funded this in the prior year, and
13:36:26 And Dr. Meredith put together a summary of accomplishments, and what they've been able to do is reach out to people who, are disadvantaged, and they made digital access much
much easier for people that are disadvantaged, and they've talked computers skills and other
13:36:46 Things, and so would it be okay to ask Dr.
13:36:52 Meredith to speak to this briefly. Yeah, sure I think, don't you?
13:36:56 Yeah, I mean, we might want to talk process a little bit as we go through before we okay, yeah, just at at your pleasure.
13:37:03 Yeah, so I've got another request to put on that list of 3 that we consider to.
13:37:11 And I guess I'm I'm happy to hear from from all 3 of these projects we're gonna make hear about the sewer before we make any decisions.
13:37:19 Of course, too. And then I just wonder if we want to have any conversation about process.
13:37:23 With the rest of the Arpa funds. I mean, we have multiple times responded to request.
13:37:30 I think what we're recommending today, or at least what I'm recommending is that once we consider these 3, and if you have one to add these 4 that we put a more torium on entertaining
requests from outside the county, and that all the funds available be
13:37:48 Made available to bring those sewer project to fruition, and then, once the super project is no longer in need of these, liquidity.
13:37:57 Dollars. And we know what the bit amounts are, and we've covered any bit escalation that might occur. And if we have Arpa funds remaining at that time, then we entertain additional
requests or use them for internal needs.
13:38:13 Okay. And so this really will be the last time the board gets to consider requests from outside agencies for some time.
13:38:24 If you agree with the the proposal. Okay? Well, that's yeah.
13:38:29 Let's let's let's hear people out there here.
13:38:30 So, yeah.
13:38:30 I, I'd like to. I'd like to weigh in Greg.
13:38:33 Yeah.
13:38:34 Okay, yeah, I, I feel like, feel really awkward about about considering requests when we we didn't have any any discussion of accepting requests or what our priorities were
for this round of funding.
13:38:52 And so I I'm I'm certainly supportive of these projects, but I I feel I just want to say I'm I'm nervous about doing this without having given you know a number a broader set
of organizations.
13:39:06 The ability to request funds, so I'm happy to hear the map.
13:39:10 But I want to have a pretty robust conversation about process, and if the if it's really fair to proceed
13:39:16 Yeah, no, I I agree. And I also recognize that we have done that periodically through this whole process.
13:39:22 You know, with, you know, projects from the Maritime Center and other, you know, nonprofits that are doing good work.
13:39:29 I I share your concern, Kate, about accepting these requests without opening it to any of our valued partners.
13:39:38 Have we opened a process in the past? I mean, I remember bringing this up last year, or even I was before I was chair.
13:39:47 So when Kate was chair, we sat in this room for a moment together, and I brought up concern over process and I was said to me, This is our process.
13:39:58 So it's, you know. It's been a little fuzzy all along. In my opinion.
13:40:04 Our our process for allocating these Arpa funds have we?
13:40:08 Haven't had a distinct process other than the process you had with recovery funding before I was even a commissioner was not Oak Arpa funding.
13:40:18 It was cares funding. So it feel that's never felt to me like we had a good process for this, but that we were responding to community needs, and I totally hear the concern
about sewer and the rising construction costs.
13:40:33 And I'm super supportive of allocating most of the funding to the sewer project, because so much work has gone into that project for decades.
13:40:42 Now, but I I'm comfortable with the request we have on the table, because they're all known community partners.
13:40:51 Reasonable requests. They they smell to me like the request we received in the past for help from the Wellness center.
13:41:00 Most recently. I mean it. It feels like we haven't really had a process, Kate, to me
13:41:05 Well, we said, pretty clear criteria early on, and we also had the identified projects through the the cares funding process.
13:41:15 So I I felt that we did have. You know we'd been kind of collecting through the through the cares, public process projects, and priorities and created criteria.
13:41:26 So I agree it wasn't an application process as such.
13:41:33 But it felt like it had gone through some some vetting and deliberation which I feel like we haven't done when we kind of reopened this this this round, I would have rather
had the conversation before considering any requests
13:41:51 Right and and I'll just say that we didn't solicit these requests.
13:41:57 They were unstolicited and you know I didn't feel comfortable telling these folks.
13:42:03 No, and you know that's the the job of the board to consider them and decide whether to fund them
13:42:12 Okay, well, here we are with them in front of us.
13:42:16 So you know, we've got the the people here.
13:42:18 So I think we we've got Kate's concerns.
13:42:20 I, I, I I kind of share them a little bit, too, you know it's our we don't have a lot more opportunities for this kind of just personal funds, and we want to make the most of
them.
13:42:30 But with that, let's let's turn it over to to Tamara and share a little bit about what's what's happened to date with the digital navigator and and what you see in the future.
13:42:40 Sure. Thank you very much, all of you, for entertaining this proposal.
13:42:45 This is basically a continuation of our digital navigator funding that we are currently working off of with the Cares act funding that you awarded us last year we had hoped
to make it all the way to the end of 2,023 with the funding we had set aside which included
13:42:59 cares, act funding, Department of Commerce, funding as well as some local community foundation funding.
13:43:05 And what we're finding is just the cost of escapated over the last year.
13:43:08 So between travel costs and benefits, costs and salary costs, they're just higher than we had originally anticipated.
13:43:16 So our digital navigator is out on the road a couple of days a week now he's actually down in South County one day a week as well as in Port Townsend. One day a week.
13:43:24 We had hoped initially to do that maybe once a month, and we're finding that the need is great enough that he's actually down there every single week.
13:43:31 So that's increase a little bit of our cost there, as well as mileage, and getting back and forth.
13:43:36 So he's down in Brennan or quill, seeing once a week as well as serving up in Port Townsend, getting more of the affordable connectivity program.
13:43:45 Grant requests, so doing. Quite a bit of connecting people there and then, just solving a lot of our general connectivity problems, device problems and that sort of thing.
13:43:56 Quite a few partnerships have come out of this as well with our local agencies, and a lot of referrals.
13:44:00 We are more tightly melded, with only cap.
13:44:05 Now, as far as you know, we have people coming to us that start with questions about devices and connectivity, and we end up connecting them to resources for heating.
13:44:12 And insulation, or, you know, food banks, that sort of thing so we're finding that it's very valuable, not just for the Internet side, but just for general health and wellness
in our community.
13:44:21 So at this point you know the request that you've got in front of you is for $35,000.
13:44:27 That's roughly 5 months ish of all salary benefits which would pretty much get us through the end of 2,023.
13:44:35 But the funding we already have satisfied our initial proposal was for a 2 year position, and that does complete a 2 year cycle.
13:44:42 At that time. Right now we're trying to evaluate whether we bring that position completely in-house into the library district, and where we're funded entirely, or whether we
work for some other partnerships to be able to fund it in some other areas but i'd
13:44:55 Appreciate any thoughts, comments, and or funding you can give at this point
13:45:00 Great thanks, Dr. Meredith, any any questions or comments for Dr.
13:45:09 Hmm.
13:45:03 Meredith, I would. I would just say, I know it's been a super successful program, and that I know people who've used the digital navigator navigator services.
13:45:18 And for people out. In. You know my part of the county and in South County.
13:45:23 It's really a a needed service right now. So I super super greatful that you're here talking to us about this
13:45:28 Alright. Thank you.
13:45:31 I I do appreciate hearing about how it's deepened a little bit to, you know.
13:45:37 Kind of being a an entry into only cap and other other services as well.
13:45:40 That's that seems really critical.
13:45:43 Okay, Kate, any questions or comments. Okay? Well, sit tight for a little bit, Dr. Meredith.
13:45:50 We're, you know, building this as we go, Pete, you want to talk about the maritime trades request
13:45:58 Thanks. Greg, Heidi. Kate, always glad to be here, representing our marine traits.
13:46:05 Pretty important factor this year's coming up we're getting ready to do our update of the economic impact study.
13:46:14 So just to remind everybody that study was fully funded by the trades out of pocket and or through donations, memberships of the organization.
13:46:23 So we're pretty proud of where that document is gone, and brought the number of monies into our community.
13:46:30 That wouldn't have been here if that study hadn't been done.
13:46:32 So to date. The port has pledged 25,000 for assisting with the update, and that's part of our ask today is trying to get funding so that the Marine Trades Association is not
having to struggle and or get through this next evolution quite as hard as before
13:46:53 So we can fund our at least our overhead space for the next 5 years.
13:46:59 And for me this is almost a 2 for for you guys is because essentially, Betsy would be receiving some of that as offsetting their rent as well for the Memorial building, which
has become a pretty good hub of marine trades. Activity.
13:47:15 So it's for the Marine Trades Association, I think, out of some of the care funding they got $2,000, I think, from the Jefferson Community Foundation.
13:47:24 But that's really all we've ever asked for.
13:47:26 So at this point, we're really just enthusiastic to know we have a legitimate home.
13:47:33 And we're starting to build an organization that I hope out of the outcome of the new impact study might change that we're close to 30% of the economy here and not just 20.
13:47:42 So also working towards getting the younger generation fully educated on board management and the financials, and all of that.
13:47:53 And what makes a good businessman is having some money to organize and budget for.
13:47:57 So that's what we're trying to do with this next generation.
13:47:59 So any of your consideration would be certainly considered as a great thing for us, and definitely promote the fact that we know where it came from.
13:48:10 We all are hard working, trying to pay those dollars into the system, so that it can be doled out appropriately.
13:48:17 So thank you.
13:48:17 Great thanks, a lot questions for for Pete, comments I know I mean I feel like the boat yards my home.
13:48:26 So I've been really excited to see what's going on with the building.
13:48:31 Not just the Edc. Being in there, and the Marine Trades Association in the boat school, but also now the port towns and sailing is so.
13:48:38 It is really becoming kind of a hub of activity for our maritime community in the boat yard, and I think it's a really exciting time
13:48:48 Great
13:48:48 Thank you.
13:48:51 Since we did get a a proposal, and referred to it and showed the library what maybe we should show the proposal from the maritime trades
13:49:01 Yeah.
13:49:04 Just goes into a little more detail about expenditure
13:49:07 Right.
13:49:16 Hey, so this is. This is their their letter. 20% of the economy.
13:49:24 He did mention that order for towns, and making a $25,000 commitment
13:49:34 Looks like 10 million in dollars generated
13:49:45 So the request is for 20,000 for overhead support to maintain an office.
13:49:52 Is that right, Pete?
13:49:53 Yes.
13:49:55 Yeah, any. Any additional funds, you know. If there were any, would go to administrative costs currently.
13:50:02 Right now looking at, you know, accounting systems and and some legal advice.
13:50:08 But other than that, we're pretty self-sufficient.
13:50:17 Hmm.
13:50:10 So that's just really to maintain our overhead and take some of the burden and worry off a a young board that hasn't quite got into the fundraising mode of maybe some of the
other organizations. So
13:50:21 So timing. Isn't that critical for this request? Is that right, Pete?
13:50:25 Well, it is, in a way we're currently pretty tight.
13:50:29 I'm on rent funds people are making.
13:50:32 Some donations based on whether it's going to our lifeboat fund.
13:50:36 The economic impact study or the rent. But we just like to have a feeling of what we might need to do over this next few months to to get through the hurdles
13:50:49 And are you guys a nonprofit? What's your organizational structure
13:50:54 It's a 501 c. 6,
13:51:01 Yeah.
13:50:59 What the edc is. Yup
13:51:03 And we're planning on. Just so Kate would go to Mark Neutson who's on the Edc.
13:51:10 Board is also very familiar with Martin and associates who does the economic impact study.
13:51:18 So they've he's worked with. Oh, Mr.
13:51:22 Martin, out of the port of Seattle. When he was there, so we're hoping to kind of incorporate some of the Edc.
13:51:29 Board membership as part of our update, so that the 2 organizations are really kind of working together
13:51:35 That's great. Great. Thank you, Pete. Any other questions, comments.
13:51:45 Alright. We'll go right through it, and we'll onto Betsy.
13:51:49 You can come up. We do need you to talk in the microphone so everyone remotely can hear you as well.
13:51:53 So have a seat at the table
13:51:55 Test is that okay? Shipping it down Northwest School of Wooden boat building teaches people the skills so they can enter the marine trades and we're thrilled that this year
we have 60 students.
13:52:11 What's one of the biggest barriers for students housing?
13:52:16 But, like many other parts of the community, struggling with that, and we've had the incredible once in a lifetime, opportunity to acquire the 7 cottages that's sit adjacent
to the school, and those are becoming student housing, and we immediately need to do some things to them to make them as
13:52:40 Safe and energy efficient as we can. And so we've requested consideration of a $100,000, which would immediately go to helping us upgrade the electrical and put in many splits,
and we had Frederickson come down and and go through the details on one of the cabins which we then
13:53:02 Extrapolate to the other cabins, and that is our top priority.
13:53:07 The electrical and heating, but then we also have roofs and gutters, and all sorts of other things to do.
13:53:13 We think it's probably about a half a 1 million dollars altogether.
13:53:17 We'll be spending over the next few years. But we're just talking about the immediate stuff to make them usable, and tomorrow we open enrollment to next year's class of students
that start in October so we're crossing our fingers.
13:53:31 For a good number of students coming in, and the opportunity to let at least some of them know that there's access to housing for them.
13:53:40 Thanks, great. I had the same question here. And what's what's the kind of the timing, the timing need for that?
13:53:47 Are you looking to get him ready for next October?
13:53:49 Yeah, yeah, we're we need to start now. I have one sitting empty because I need to get the electrical done in a coal.
13:53:56 In the floor prepared so yes, and we have some residents in some of them, but we're trying to get them all spruced up for fall.
13:54:06 Great questions for Betsy. I have lived next to those cabins for 25 years, and I walk my dogs down there all the time, and I'm so thrilled that the boat school is going to be
the steward of that property, and those cabins for our community because they've needed a loving
13:54:27 owner for a long time so super supportive of this Betsy they're all fishing cottages.
13:54:33 Yeah, I, I think they might have been worker cottages eventually.
13:54:39 But Duke Schultz has a story that they were built in a day.
13:54:43 Each one. I don't know I used to really get things done. Yeah.
13:54:48 Didn't Howard learn its family around the grocery store in the Ajax I think a post office?
13:54:52 Yeah. Yeah. Great.
13:54:56 Yeah.
13:54:54 I've got a question, Betsy, help you decide which which students to rent to?
13:55:01 Is it based on on income at all, or just help me understand?
13:55:05 Kind of the how, how you see that decision making
13:55:07 You know what we've done typically is we let the student make the choice as to which housing situation they want.
13:55:17 So once someone has signed an enrollment agreement, we give them a list of all the places we know about that students have lived before, and some will choose to live in a room
you know that they're sharing with someone else.
13:55:28 And someone else might choose to rent a whole house. So these will be at a price point.
13:55:33 That's somewhere in the middle. So some students will, and some students won't be interested in these.
13:55:40 And of those students who are interested. One of the criteria will be those who are hardest to place other places.
13:55:48 And what's turning out to happen is when someone has a family.
13:55:52 That's the hardest for them to find a place.
13:55:54 So right now. The first house that came open for a student.
13:55:57 This fall, it was the first one that was open. Anyway, he came in with his wife and his brand new baby, so I think you know, we won't necessarily do the income screen because
people can choose where they want to go.
13:56:15 But we will definitely do the screen on how probable it is for that person to find someone, something else, either based on their family structure or their money, or whatever
but we also don't.
13:56:28 We need to fill those as we go. So we're not gonna wait until we have 60 students and then decide because we want to make sure and get people in enrolled.
13:56:37 They can't enroll for sure until they have a place to live.
13:56:41 I would say it's not a firm screen based on income, but that will be effective.
13:56:48 And
13:56:48 In, in our, in our housing, you know, at a number of ways we we intersect with housing.
13:56:55 We, you know, generally talk about kind of market rate housing, workforce housing, subsidized or affordable housing.
13:57:05 Could you say kind of if this fits into any of those categories, or or on a
13:57:09 I don't know those definitions, but we're looking about 900 $900 for the smaller cabins a month or 900 to 1,000, and then 1,500 for the bigger 2 cabins.
13:57:23 So I'm not sure which c category that fits into.
13:57:26 But we're we're not subsidizing them.
13:57:30 We're gonna be paying our interest payments in our maintenance, based on the rents
13:57:35 Okay. Thank you.
13:57:36 And then, Betsy, do do the students have to move out when they graduate?
13:57:41 It's a one year lease, and it starts in October, and it ends September the thirtieth.
13:57:48 And even though our immune system students are here for 9 months, we're still going to have them do a twelve-month agreement.
13:57:55 So for sure it's automatic, endless. They decide to take the other class.
13:57:59 Then they're eligible for another year. Okay.
13:58:03 And Kate. Actually, I'm sure we'd love to learn anything from the other housing people.
13:58:09 I I wasn't really anticipating. We're gonna go into housing.
13:58:13 And then all of a sudden, it's like we really need to pay attention to it.
13:58:16 So we're happy to learn
13:58:20 Great. Okay? And then I guess, I'll I'll give.
13:58:25 Thank you, Betsy. Pretty appreciate you being here.
13:58:28 And then the the fourth request I I will bring forward, and that follows up on our letter in support of the Hood Canal.
13:58:38 Communications, broadband efforts down in South Carolina, and I don't know if other commissioners have been getting them, but I probably have 25 requests from citizens down
there asking us for matching funds for that Grant request for those for the polls.
13:58:57 Suppose, yeah. And I talked with Kristin runs Basin, Pd, one down there.
13:59:03 They're looking for. And they're also looking to the Jefferson Pudd.
13:59:07 All of this, the whole 2 million dollar project is Injection County, and in response to Kate's question last week, it does not help Jefferson, Pd.
13:59:16 At all. None of our redundant systems go down that way past Mount Walker. So it doesn't.
13:59:20 It doesn't serve Jefferson, Pd. Per se, but it is the entire 2 million dollar project is in Jefferson County, in South Canada.
13:59:28 $100,000 would pay for 10 lengths of polls, and would be a great boon in their application for the State.
13:59:36 Broadband Office, Grant so I know there's a lot of South County support for it, and it is.
13:59:42 It would benefit the broadband efforts just for Jefferson County residents through a different municipal beauty.
13:59:49 Any any questions about that one I can answer or try to.
13:59:54 I have received some emails. Okay, yeah, I have been inundated.
14:00:00 100,000 is the ask to match. It's a 2 million dollar project
14:00:05 And just as a reminder we supported the Jefferson Pewdie Broadband.
14:00:11 This was one of our top priorities, that infrastructure.
14:00:13 Oh! In the previous round
14:00:13 Yes. Yeah. To the tuna. 900,000. So this would bring us to a 1 million on broadband.
14:00:21 Yeah. And none of that money, of course, went to South County because they're not.
14:00:29 They're not Jefferson beauty, I'm very compelled by this one. But we'll talk about all 4.
14:00:35 But I guess Kate Heidi, shall we table this and and listen to our presentation from the the port to add a little bit more context before we really deliberate from the port?
14:00:45 The port.
14:00:46 I'm sorry, from public works. I'm just gonna keep going.
14:00:51 Come on in. I I mean public works.
14:00:55 Yeah.
14:00:54 Yeah, I would really like to not consider specific funding proposals until we talk a little bit more about priorities and and and process and kind of decide on a rationale for
decision making
14:01:09 Okay, well, we can dig into that after we hear from public works.
14:01:16 Alright, mine. Alright, great. Yeah.
14:01:20 You. There's room for your compatriots as well
14:01:27 Okay.
14:01:34 Hmm.
14:01:36 So wasn't quite sure. The format today, and I prepared you know, a sewer briefing that might take 20Â min to half an hour.
14:01:47 I don't know nothing else on the agenda, like all of our other guests through that presentation, necessarily cause I don't think I'm gonna answer any questions about whether
you should or you know, should fund these other requests.
14:02:01 I mean I said. They all sound like good records, and I you know the numbers with the sewer are large and general in nature.
14:02:09 So basically, the sewers are a great place to put additional calendar, money, and resources.
14:02:17 But you know it's not gonna be at the level where it's like, well, is that 100,000 gonna make or break the sewer?
14:02:26 No, I mean, you know, if you 100,000 goes to some of these other request, that's that's not what we're talking about here.
14:02:35 I mean with with. I think Kate. Kate's got some connections about making those decisions right now, and we're going to talk about process later.
14:02:42 So you know, to Pete and Tamara and Betsy, we're gonna just be.
14:02:45 We're gonna table that for now, and and and move on to this.
14:02:49 We've got guests here for this presentation, too.
14:02:52 So like, I said, I just want to make sure that the other guests understand.
14:02:56 It's not the sewer or them, you know.
14:02:58 It's the sewer again is can always use funding.
14:03:03 And and what's remaining to be allocated like Mark is proposed, I think would be a great use of it, but it doesn't mean that these other requests, couldn't, you know, couldn't
be fun, and I'm not going to present any information today that that does that you know
14:03:17 So, okay, first, I'd like to introduce John Black, who's sitting here with us.
14:03:27 He's our newest addition to the sewer team.
14:03:30 We've been looking for full time sewer staff for a long time on this project.
14:03:35 I mean for the last few years it's been just myself and and Bob Wheeler, who's sitting behind John.
14:03:40 Part time, fashion, and then we added, Dave Peterson, about a year ago, which has been a great addition another part time.
14:03:50 Person, but we finally been able to acquire a full time staff, and so John Black, I know he met Kate when she was over in our office, but we have Heidi Eisenhower and Greg Brotherton
here, John, and you met Mark Macaulay when
14:04:08 You walked in the county administrator. Caroline is the clerk of the board, so
14:04:20 John, maybe maybe you could come up here and just give a a quick overview of your background before I dive into this.
14:04:28 No one sorry to put you on the spot.
14:04:31 Yeah. I know. That's just a quick point. Where do you?
14:04:35 Where you work before, and and get close to that night. Alright!
14:04:39 So my background is with the super fun site in California, where we were for chemicals that were deposited into the groundwater system.
14:04:55 I have. Hmm. Probably 14 years. Experience, construction, management, and plan engineer for those wastewater treatment plants. Great.
14:05:11 What? What was the which super fun site was it? Aerojay rocketine in Sacramento? Sacramento?
14:05:17 Okay. I know. I just know there are a lot of super fun sites everywhere.
14:05:25 Well welcome on board
14:05:30 You know, like like you mentioned, is good. 14 years worth of experience in wastewater treatment.
14:05:38 He's already, you know, really dug into the the plans and and had some great observations about the project, and really pleased that John's here, and we were lucky to find John
living right here in our community already lived up here.
14:05:54 Since? What about 2828? 18? So that was, it was great.
14:06:04 To find John right here. So our our teams really coalesced in the last few months, actually, because Samantha Harper, from the Ped has been getting much more involved and engaged
in this project as well.
14:06:19 And so it's a it's a it's a bit of a non traditional team.
14:06:23 Because oh, we have part time, folks and people that don't even work in public works.
14:06:28 But you know the beauty is a partner on this project so great.
14:06:31 See them getting so involved in. And finally, we do have at least one full time person in our department working on this project.
14:06:39 So great, anyway. Thanks for coming up, John I'm sorry to put you on the spot.
14:06:50 Let's see. Well, this, how? How do you? Okay?
14:06:58 Just to, you know quickly. Remind folks the sewer boundary is that green boundary, you know?
14:07:09 Goes from the library, or this mouse's library here.
14:07:16 Qfc, here, sheriff's the jail, and everything down here.
14:07:22 The bottom on chimicum Road. That's the extent.
14:07:25 And then we have a Betsy's, you know. Boats go down here.
14:07:30 It's only in red. This is a a exhibit out of a Grant application.
14:07:38 We did where we were. The waterfront area down here in red was not part of that grand application, but it is part of the project but that's why it's shaded in red.
14:07:50 So that's the Gary. We're working actively to sewer course.
14:07:58 The habitat properties up here, where the airstrip is in the upper left corner.
14:08:04 In this red down here. That's the sewer treatment plant, and that's the the site where the water gets infiltrated.
14:08:14 Next to Chimicum Creek. Again this is Class A reclaimed water that's near drinking water quality when it goes there.
14:08:21 This is not a stinky sewer treatment pond with brown stuff and foam floating on it.
14:08:28 You probably never see water in this pond. It'll be much like the pond by the end of the runway.
14:08:35 That's usually dry, because it's that's also an infiltration blonde that rapidly you infiltrates water
14:08:46 Where is the next pay? How do you? How do you click to the next page?
14:08:53 Oh, there we go, quick! Overview of of 22 accomplishments.
14:09:04 Designed about 95, I would say, except for the actual connections on the individual properties.
14:09:12 In fact, John is digging into that now that he's here with us, that's you know.
14:09:18 If you have.
14:09:19 40 to 80 properties. You're trying to sewer.
14:09:22 That's 40 to 80 projects. Really, each one's an individual project.
14:09:27 But we have done a lot of data collection on those properties, and that's ongoing the cultural resources studies.
14:09:36 And if you want to call them permits or approvals required, thanks to a lot of hard work by Bob Wheeler, working with the tribes, and our consultant Esa Environmental services
associates incorporated that's a huge step required to complete before we could even
14:09:54 Spend the 20 million that we got through the legislature and commerce, and those approvals for
14:10:01 Acquired at the end of the year. So huge step, which of then allowed us to execute the final contract for the 20 million dollar appropriation from the legislature, you guys
signed that in the last meeting of the year, and I got the and then commerce signed it the first week, of
14:10:21 January, and I got that back
14:10:23 A lot of permitting work was accomplished in 2022 Sepa shorelines, conditional use permitting, etc.
14:10:33 Was either a approved or is currently on the verge of approval.
14:10:37 Again. Bob worked on that Dave, Esa and Dcd.
14:10:40 Staff, Josh and Joel
14:10:45 We added staff, of course Bob was already here, but Dave's been here about a year.
14:10:51 You just met John Black Colette. Cost like is our right away representative who has done a lot on this project already.
14:10:59 She's been with us for several months. She's also getting right away for transportation projects as well as handling other.
14:11:10 There's a lot of property management right away. Needs in in a department.
14:11:16 Samantha Harper, with the Pd. Has become really engaged with this project to the point where we expect she'll be doing a lot of construction management.
14:11:24 On our at least our first contract, and I've I got an update to the interlocal with the Pd.
14:11:31 To cover that work, that she's currently reviewing, but as indicated that she has time and desire to to do construction.
14:11:41 Management on elements of this project, which is great, because, as we know, the Pds.
14:11:48 Scheduled to operate this system. So I'm really pleased that there's through Samantha becoming so involved in the final design and and construction of this project funding.
14:12:03 We probably got that 2 and a half 1 million through the EPA.
14:12:07 Through Senator Murray. Maybe that was the end of 21, but I put it as an accomplishment here in 22 course, it requires 20% local match.
14:12:15 We recently received the 3 million from that Kilmer and Cantwell championed that was part of the 1.7 trillion omnibus package, or said, has a 20% local match as well.
14:12:32 Late in the year we have applied for the clean water program through the Department of Quality.
14:12:38 Bob and I and others put a lot of work into that.
14:12:41 That's a 5 million dollar grant with 1.7 million in low interest.
14:12:45 20 year loan, we will likely hear about that in January or February, and, as I said, we executed the contract for the 20 million with commerce, because we got the cultural resources
work done, and of course the county committed about well, 1.9 million of its own Arpa Funds to the
14:13:03 Project, which is what is funding the work on the project right now, all these other grants are primarily for construction.
14:13:12 So the design work, the staffing, the project, management, the easements work one that's all coming out of the Arpa money.
14:13:20 I think we've used about 4 to 500,000 of that already.
14:13:26 There's some remaining remaining work that our consultant, Tetra Tech, has to do.
14:13:32 Few $100,000 that'll be paying for that work as well.
14:13:36 Again I mentioned easements required some pretty significant easements from 4 property owners.
14:13:43 Bob was real instrumental, and as he always isn't talking to property owners and getting the ball rolling on that, and Colette brought those over the finish line.
14:13:52 It's not as easy as it sounds great. The property owners super cooperative, but just a lot of of it's called paperwork to make those kinds of things happen surveying legal descriptions,
appraisals, all kinds of stuff
14:14:16 Bob has worked with Barbara. So on the sewer ordinance significantly, we're not gonna good delve into that today, but there will be work early this year.
14:14:26 23 to on the sewer ordinance, and there has been a lot of public outreach ongoing, maybe not in the form of large community meetings or newsletters, but it's mostly one on one
property owner, one property owner at a time, and
14:14:46 it's mostly Bob Wheeler, some Dave Peterson, and I know John was out meeting with couple of the folks with Bob a week or 2 ago as well
14:14:59 This is the sewer budget. As it stands.
14:15:02 You've this is not new information. I sent you this a couple of times.
14:15:08 Maybe the first time was in September, and that was not necessarily new information at that time, either.
14:15:17 It was an update to prior budgets that we had put together
14:15:25 The work has been broken into several different categories. Here there's a 4 million dollar Site work contract that's Earth work getting the site ready and doing the main pipelines
into and out of the sewer treatment plant there's the wastewater treatment plan itself.
14:15:45 Then there's construction, administration and management. So 16 million dollars for let's say, the treatment plant side and bait.
14:15:55 By the way, these estimates are based on estimates that tetratex professional cost estimators given us at various stages through the design, are there, I would say that 10 million
dollar well, 14.6 million dollar number you see, there there's about a 150 pages of
14:16:13 Documentation behind that my recollection is that is not really been inflating at the cost of some other construction projects.
14:16:22 Iphone these numbers to be pretty high and higher than I expected.
14:16:26 Okay. And we've done some things to try to stabilize them or bring them down there.
14:16:31 They are supposed to include the Cost escalations we've seen in recent, you know, due to inflation in everything.
14:16:41 You know this cost estimator. So he does. He works in Seattle so he's used to the kind of prices over there, and he's using the latest data he can get his hands on.
14:16:52 I still think that I'm
14:16:55 I guess I can't characterize it more any any better than just a hope.
14:17:01 But I you know, by putting out multiple contracts that are smaller, we hope to get local contractors, and maybe maybe you know, at least bring the project in for these costs.
14:17:15 If not below, rather than putting out a 30 million dollar contract, and only getting one kind of contractor to show up in this county.
14:17:25 But for now that's that's the cost estimate.
14:17:30 There is some continuity about 10% built in here, but that's more or less eaten up by tax sales tax that wasn't added into these.
14:17:38 So it's a it's an add-on these.
14:17:42 By the way, I mean, these projects are going to generate a fair amount of sales tax for Jefferson County when they, when they happen.
14:17:48 So maybe that's a a good reason to reinvest some of that money in this project, then there's the collection and connections project again, similar here, about 17 million.
14:18:04 Again I I I feel like these numbers are, or let's call them plenty adequate, but it we are in a volatile bidding.
14:18:16 Climate, right? Now, we're doing a very large project. We're doing a type of work that this public Works Department hasn't, and no one around here has done a lot of so I mean,
I I know what a bridge should cost, and some of the work we typically, do.
14:18:30 My my confidence level and items that we don't do as much as obviously not not as high.
14:18:36 I've gotta trust the information we're getting out of our consultants, and this is one question before you go on is the connections.
14:18:44 That is that all the grinder pumps on properties and everything, all costs, including thank you for for current septic users, not, you know, future ones, and like habitat or
something, the funding picture on the left.
14:18:58 We have the funding, the fed and State funding all secured except for this 5 million, which we hope to hear about in a month or 2 on the right side, remaining from our Arpa
funds.
14:19:13 The local match that we have to put into these Federal EPA grants, and then, with the ecology, 5 million, Grant required a loan component.
14:19:23 You can't just get Grant from ecology. It has to come with a loan.
14:19:28 We applied at this ratio, based on a hardship category that we feel we qualify for.
14:19:35 But in the end that's their decision. That'd be a 20 year loan at point 4.
14:19:40 So it works out to 87,000 bucks a year for repayment.
14:19:49 Not too bad. So if you add the state and fed funding and the local phone together, you get 35 million, which is actually a little bit more than that number there.
14:20:02 But if we don't get the ecology, grant, or as much, or if things cost more, you know I I I don't want to say that we're we've got 1.6 million of extra money again.
14:20:17 And in this this year we're gonna learn a lot because a lot of this project is not all of it.
14:20:21 But a lot of this project is going to be bit out, and so we'll get a lot better feel for how we're doing with the funding we have.
14:20:29 But this is what it looks like today. I still think that we could park additional arpa money that we have in this project to cover unanticipated costs, cost escalations, or
also things like we've built
14:20:53 We need to establish a fund for equipment replacement, and emergencies and things like that, that we don't necessarily want to burden the users with those costs.
14:21:05 So you know, there's there's that money in the future that we will need.
14:21:11 So anyway, this one's a little hard to show all in one page.
14:21:21 It's, and maybe I can shrink it down here.
14:21:25 Gonna get hard to read, too hard to read.
14:21:30 Oh, okay, I'll keep this on the left. Some Brad project categories.
14:21:37 Course, you know, project management ongoing through the whole project, completing the design for what I'm calling the the 20 million Dollar Commerce project we have maybe a
quarter 1 million of staff and consultant time left to do.
14:21:54 Of sewer ordinance work. That's mostly staff time
14:22:02 There are 3 to 4 construction contracts for that 20 million dollars that we will put out and I think it's important to mention right here that we're not.
14:22:12 We're really avoiding, combining funds like the commerce money with the Paddy Murray EPA.
14:22:20 Money because they're
14:22:22 There are different requirements with those fundings. They're on different timelines that the commerce money we have to have all under contract by the end of 24 and spent by
mid 26.
14:22:33 The EPA. Money doesn't have any deadlines associated with it, but we're gonna have to go back and do some additional Federal permitting with that money.
14:22:47 If we start mixing them together, the Federal money is going to bog down the commerce money.
14:22:53 So we're really characterizing this as separate projects. And for so with the 20 million, we have a commerce project that's going to be building the wastewater treatment plant
the infiltration pond.
14:23:04 Of course, the site work before you build the wastewater treatment plant and some portion of the collection system and connections.
14:23:12 Maybe the portion that goes up cedar Avenue and over to Qfc.
14:23:16 The rest of the Federal money that we're getting in ecology money.
14:23:20 We applied for that has. That'll go to additional portions of the collection system to expand it out like down to the waterfront and down Chimicum road to the those areas.
14:23:33 But we're, these are separate projects. So we're bidding them out separately on separate timelines.
14:23:39 So this first construction contract is the one we expect to bid out here, and hopefully as early as early March.
14:23:51 Really and then build this summer. That's that's all.
14:23:55 The mass grading, building, the Infiltration pond and the main pipe coming in from outr 1 16 to the treatment plant, and then from the traffic plan over to the pond on the heels
of that will be the actual wastewater treatment plant contract
14:24:15 And the collection system, and those I've given over a year to construct these timelines may be generous, but I don't wanna over promise.
14:24:28 That's still gets us that work done by the end of 24, 2 years from now and then we have some money for some of the initial connections.
14:24:39 We really need connections to get to fire up the wastewater treatment plan
14:24:48 Subsequent to that, then we have remaining design, details and construction contracts which are represented here in late 24 and 25 for additional collection system and connections.
14:25:02 Again, areas like the waterfront with both school and down chemical road and things like that.
14:25:10 And then the bottom line just represents all construction management throughout the project, and those numbers add up to similar numbers.
14:25:18 As I showed on the previous page 35 million. But for construct, some of that's not construction.
14:25:26 So it's really like 34 and a half 1 million, anyway.
14:25:27 Right in the ballpark of what I was talking about in the the Budget Doc, on the previous screen.
14:25:33 I did a really simplified cash flow analysis here, where I just took like I don't know this.
14:25:44 Say this 10 million dollar wastewater treatment plant project.
14:25:49 I divided that by the number of months that it's spread over, and I so each month has the same amount of that money that 10 million in it.
14:25:58 And then the spreadsheet. There's hidden rows.
14:26:01 It adds up the monthly costs this project, and again, of course, it adds up to the same number the 35 million over here on the right.
14:26:11 So you see, some months will be spending all close to 1.4 million dollars.
14:26:17 So if we're using reimbursable grants, and they're a couple of months behind, we could have 2 months cost.
14:26:25 We have to potentially cover. So that could be like 2.8 million dollars.
14:26:30 If this work gets compressed into a tighter timeframe, that'll be even more money, and of course money isn't generally spent evenly like that, like in the middle of a construction
project, the bills could be a lot bigger than the beginning.
14:26:44 But I I didn't have the time or energy to try to get that sophisticated and modeling.
14:26:51 This I mean I did this in a couple of hours on Friday, so I I've met with Mark and Stacey and Judy about align a credit to help cash flow.
14:27:05 This project. I think Mark has some ideas about cash flowing.
14:27:08 The initial part before we have the line of credit using county funds like the Arpa funds and capital funds.
14:27:15 And we're looking at a line of credit of 5 to 10 million we'll we'll figure out what we need.
14:27:21 5 might be adequate, but just barely 10 might be more, but I I don't know.
14:27:27 Mark's done this before. I know this is Stacy's realm.
14:27:31 The Port Stacy indicated that the port had a line of credit they were using for their big projects.
14:27:38 So this is this, is not new ground where it's just new for Jefferson County.
14:27:41 Maybe this idea of line of credit. But you know, with reimbursable grants, it's it's what's needed that's done a lot with land conservation projects.
14:27:52 Yeah, I I do it in my person life. I've just never done it in my my government life.
14:27:59 College expenses, any questions on on that again, I mean, I guess one of the takeaways is that we do plan to start.
14:28:07 You know construction this year and early this year, and you know we've broken out the site work, hoping to get one of our local earthwork contractors on the job where they
specialize.
14:28:21 And then, you know, the wastewater treatment plan is a different kind of contract.
14:28:24 Suited to a different kind of contractor. And then much of this collection system work, which is putting pipes and roads is potentially good work for local contractors as well.
14:28:36 But you know they only have certain amounts of, you know, bonding capacities and things like that, so we can't.
14:28:43 If we just put out one contract, it's we're gonna scare them off or make it.
14:28:49 They're they won't have the ability to bet on it, and then the cost would likely be higher.
14:28:53 Might be a little simpler for us to manage, only having one contract, but I think we all feel like doing it this way.
14:29:02 There's there's more advantages than disadvantages.
14:29:07 Totally, agree yeah, I appreciate you taking the looking at the potential for local contractors into a consideration that's huge.
14:29:14 An important, yeah. Well, I you know, Dave Peterson was was really instrumental in bringing that conversation up when he came on board.
14:29:25 So I got to give credit to him for really thinking about how that would, how that would go. And I agree that that is a way to do it.
14:29:37 Let's see if I can get next page
14:29:43 You know. Oh, and M. I I just take this opportunity to bring it up again.
14:29:50 We've talked about this before. When you start a sewer up, there's gonna be a certain amount of operation maintenance and admin costs.
14:29:58 No matter if you have one user or 300 users.
14:30:02 And someone asked to pay for that right. Unfortunately, when I was putting this together this morning, I grabbed some information that was a little out of date.
14:30:10 I think our current estimates more like 460,000.
14:30:16 We expect that
14:30:20 We could have
14:30:25 Based on the water use right now. There's about 350 er use and er use 4,000 gallons a month of water use in this area, but some of those are really small.
14:30:35 Users. We expect to start with closer to 200 Eru's, which would be your school library Quebec jail, you know your larger, not your residential folks, but your your larger commercial
garden core apartments.
14:30:57 We've been targeting a $100 a month per Eru, which is in the industry range.
14:31:03 And so that would generate $240,000 a year.
14:31:06 But if it's costing you 400,000, or even 500,000 a year, to run this using, you know, our partners at the Pud.
14:31:15 But I mean there's well, the the table below talks about some of the costs.
14:31:19 You, of course you've got salaries, and this is only like a third time person, which that's probably low power lab testing hauling solids up to the port towns and composting
facility.
14:31:34 Yeah. Oh, and am's not horrible. Maybe it's maybe this should be closer to 200,000.
14:31:39 But then you have some admin. So those are overhead costs like insurance cost allocation for other county services, which is typical for enterprise funds, vehicles, equipment.
14:31:55 You, you know, have this, and then you have staff that's sending out monthly bills so that'll be done by the Pd.
14:32:04 So you have Staff sitting in the office talking about the next phase of the sewer, and then you have this equipment reserve and build up emergency fund.
14:32:13 Maybe this is an area of the county can really step up in and and build these merchandise funds.
14:32:18 But you know, okay, at the time this was done, which is out of date.
14:32:22 It was like $91. We're talking more about a $100, but that may be more than some of our low-income housing providers can stomach, and not really in line with what they're paying,
and some of the other jurisdictions, so if the if we're
14:32:41 Coming down more like, you know, 50 bucks for some of our users at least.
14:32:48 Then, you know, we're gonna have to subsidize even more.
14:32:50 So this is an ongoing discussion. And I just pointed out again, because I want people to remember that it's not going to pay for itself until we have maybe upwards to 400.
14:33:04 Eru's connected to the system, and that could take a number of years.
14:33:07 But again, this is
14:33:12 And if you go back up, monitor your timeline slide.
14:33:15 Yeah, with all the horizontal bars on it.
14:33:19 We when do you flip the switch like the fuse?
14:33:24 Yeah, it could be mid. Let's see here.
14:33:28 I think that would be early 25 when the initial users are coming on.
14:33:34 Yeah, right in here.
14:33:38 Okay, so we have a fair amount of time to, and we'll keep refining these estimates again.
14:33:45 On Ms, another thing, until we actually run it for a year.
14:33:49 It's going to be hard to know. I mean, we've looked at other sewers and to see what they're spending and things like that.
14:33:54 I mean I I think we're in the ballpark here it's not going to be a 1 million a year, and it's not going to be a 100,000 a year it's it's going to be somewhere in the middle
and doing this with someone who's already running a utility
14:34:12 The Pd. Is going to keep the cost down, instead of having 2 full-time sewer treatment plan operators that have nothing to build their time to except for the board hadlock sewer.
14:34:22 They'll be spreading their costs through their waters, you know other needs that the utility has existing staff.
14:34:29 That's how kits at Pudd's doing it.
14:34:32 Ersk, yeah, kits that ped with the like.
14:34:34 The Port Gamble treatment plant. They have a a person who was with their waterside who got certain licenses for their operation of their treatment plan, and he's there or 3
days a week half time, you know, but you have to have redundancy and backup things like that
14:34:54 Just the takeaways. Here again, construction is starting. First half of 2023.
14:35:01 It is a large and complex project. We've really only just pulled our project team together here in the last few months.
14:35:10 So we're still coming up to speed on some of this we're talking about splitting the project into multiple phases and contracts due to the different funding sources and timelines.
14:35:25 There are bidding climate uncertainties that will only become clear as bidding occurs, we have taken a number of steps to control and reduce construction costs like splitting
the construction contracts into multiple contracts and getting these easements.
14:35:40 So we can get a lot of the sewer line out of the State highway, which has really high costs associated with it.
14:35:47 Of course, the ecology Grant Loan is still unknown until a month or 2 from now
14:35:54 But the funding that we've secured to date is adequate to construct a sewer for a significant portion of the phase.
14:36:02 One area of Port Hadlock which is why we're starting.
14:36:06 The project is happening. There's no more question marks about that, and it's starting this year.
14:36:13 The project is somewhat scalable if we run short on money somehow, you know, we just won't take a pipe quite as far.
14:36:24 If we have money remaining as we bid, start betting this out, we can.
14:36:30 We could extend some pipes like, maybe we extend a pipe across Jimicum Creek and head towards Rody Drive and get that in place so that because that's going to be the one of
the really expensive parts of that project is getting across Jim a
14:36:48 Concrete, and that's the next logical place to go with.
14:36:53 Sewer, or you know further up Cedar Avenue, or some of these other areas.
14:36:58 So the the back, that this project is somewhat scalable is helpful.
14:37:05 I, feeling increasingly confident that we're gonna have the funding available to connect the initial users.
14:37:16 It. It's almost mandatory that we do that because we have to have flow, to start up the wastewater treatment plant.
14:37:25 We can't wait for people, you know, to figured out on their own the the funding sources will will, because we're going to own an operate.
14:37:35 Those grinder pumps right up to on the on the property.
14:37:41 We'll have an easement where these, then we can spend public funds, including these grams on that infrastructure.
14:37:48 If we have enough money to do it. So that's good, because we really need these people who've already invested in septic systems to swap over and and and give us flow.
14:38:01 You know, when our funding picture was a little more uncertain, we couldn't tell people confidently that we said, Well, maybe we'll be able to help out with that.
14:38:11 But I think we're gonna be able to do it, especially if we commit.
14:38:16 You know some more arpa funding to this project that we'll be able to to get those existing users on there.
14:38:24 And and again, like I said, we really need to, because we we can't. We?
14:38:27 We need 24,000 gallons a day to start this. This the sewer treatment plan up, and that's about our 40 largest water users out there right now.
14:38:40 So like that leads me to the last point is that, yeah, I think this project is a great place to park more Arpa.
14:38:48 Capital money for a variety of reasons. The uncertainties just being able to help with the onsite connections, at least until we get help with cash flow.
14:38:58 At least until we start getting some more certainties with our board bidding and everything, and by the end of 23, I think we'll have all of that 20 million dollar commerce
project.
14:39:10 All the elements of that bit out. So that's gonna give us really good numbers to work with, to figure out what the rest of the project is.
14:39:18 Gonna take to to and compare that to the money we have from the EPA.
14:39:24 Through our federal legislators, and hopefully the ecology grant, as well I'm sorry I don't have a 100% of the answers at a 100% certainty today, this is a lot of information,
a lot of great information yeah.
14:39:40 It's a little, you know, any given day. Folks working on this project, or you know we're wrestling with high level issues like this.
14:39:48 Down to, you know, micro project details about how to write a specification for a retaining wall.
14:39:58 And you know, or some easement, or work, you know. So it we get pulled in a lot of directions and we're we're doing the best we can.
14:40:07 And again, with John coming on board, we should be able to really ramp up our the attention we're given to all the things that need attention on this project, but we may need
more help.
14:40:21 More people, for certain elements or phases of project. We're going to continue to evaluate that as we, as we see how it goes, you know I'd really like to keep most of this
work in house rather than manage another large consultant, contract and pay for that but you know we'll
14:40:42 See? So, yeah, gotta live in Jefferson County already. So that's cool.
14:40:47 Cool. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, exactly so enough said, I think and that's a great said way, Monty, the last bullet there.
14:40:58 So the reason that we had money come today was because we would like board guidance, port approval to undertake a number of efforts.
14:41:11 First of which would be to bring you supplemental appropriations for first quarter to move the 1 million in general fund.
14:41:19 That's in the capital fund that we moved into into capital.
14:41:24 I think at first. Quarter 2020, cause we had a good year in 2019 move that into the Sewer fund, and then uncommitted Arpa, as it's available.
14:41:35 As I mentioned earlier, the 1.6 9 2, and revenue sharing for this year.
14:41:40 We don't yet have, but I would like to have budget authority, so that when that money is received it can also be put in the sewer fund to provide liquidity for the early phases
of the project.
14:41:57 When the dollar amounts are going to be smaller. And then the second thing that I would like the Board to decide on today is is to grant our treasurers.
14:42:09 They see that authority to go forth with an Rp.
14:42:14 Process to secure their consultant to help us obtain a line of credit.
14:42:20 I, and I'm I'm recommending 10 million, because, like Monty, said he, straight line the expenditures.
14:42:27 But that bioreactor is gonna come in on a truck and it's gonna be a very spending item, so we could get an invoice.
14:42:34 For who knows how much? 5 million 6 million at once? I don't know, but we have to have the funds available to pay the contractor pending receipt of the Grant funds, and so the
budget supplemental business.
14:42:49 I I you know Judy Shepherd's on the call.
14:42:53 She and I can handle that. But I'd invite Stacy to the table here to maybe talk about how we obtain a line of credit, what it might cost, and those things.
14:43:04 But you know I've dealt with lines of credit before.
14:43:07 They're very useful in in managing cash flow when you have large dollar amounts in grants, because you never know how long the graining agency is.
14:43:17 Gonna take to reimburse you, and you know, prompt payment to vendors.
14:43:22 Maintains our good standing in the community. And anyway, I I just think it's vital that this thing be funded fully, and so, Stacy, you want to talk about lines of credit.
14:43:34 Sure. Yes, so the port does have a line of credit right now for the breakwater replacement.
14:43:41 They obtain that back in January of 21, and so their rates are 1.5 5 and 1.6 5 in paying it back.
14:43:51 I just roughly, I'd say we're probably, you know, 4% higher than that.
14:43:58 Now I would estimate you'd probably want to just roughly guess about 6% by the time we get there.
14:44:05 As the Feds have been increasing the rate and what we've seen and what we make each month, you know, is about 1% in the lgip mid year 22.
14:44:19 It was 4.1 one last month. It's at 4.2 9 right now, 4.2 3 for the the 30 day right now.
14:44:29 So it's great for what we earn, but that also means, if we borrow it, it's gonna cost us more.
14:44:36 So just a few points. It's great information.
14:44:43 Thank you, Monty, and I'm just completely impressed with the
14:44:47 The organization and putting all these pieces together to make it happen.
14:44:51 This is pretty exciting, so
14:44:56 He mentioned the line of credit. He'd also, when we spoke before, talked about an Inner Fund loan, and so there might be a couple of things there.
14:45:06 But we currently still have an interfund loan for Undy Road, and that's a good basis for what needs to be done to accomplish that and meet the State auditor requirements for
not a permanent transfer.
14:45:21 And what you do. Each budget cycle to make sure you're on top of that
14:45:27 Along those lines, and so I'll just jump into these real quick when we talked about, or when money brought up.
14:45:35 You know the sales tax that could come on this
14:45:40 We get point 5% for general point 5 for optional and point 3% for special purpose.
14:45:48 And so essentially 1.3, we get on all the sales tax for things that delivered, constructed in the county.
14:45:56 So this would all that full 1.3 would go to that.
14:46:01 So if you just want to look at numbers on 10 million dollars, that's 130,000 on 30 million, it's 390,000, and that would also have a lag of when the company does their reporting.
14:46:15 And then, 2 months later, we receive it back. I think that's the cash flow issue is is really where the the county needs to invest upfront, which is
14:46:29 You're probably looking at a 6 month turnaround time from when you pay the bill to get it receded back from commerce.
14:46:38 At best case, and you're also looking at, you know.
14:46:41 Maybe 3 months from when you would get the sales tax for that, and certainly we have other needs for the sales tax.
14:46:48 But and then I just noted that for Piff.
14:46:52 That's 0 point 9. So for 30 million, that'd be 27,000.
14:46:57 That that's not huge. It's not nothing. But that's a different funding source to acknowledge
14:47:09 On that for
14:47:12 Getting a line of credit. It's it's the same as getting any debt where the board is.
14:47:18 The one who decides whether to enter into debt. The treasurer is the one who works to get the best rate, and all of that typically what we engage with an underwriter or a placement
agent in the past.
14:47:33 We use Da Davidson, Jim Nilson, and we engage him.
14:47:39 He works to see what the best loan structure we can get.
14:47:47 So in the past we had bonds that you know people would purchase those for each years and and have a set amount.
14:47:56 They would get back. And it's, you know, traded when we refinance those in layman terms.
14:48:06 But we refunded them in government terms. They were done with a a private with a bank, and so they're structured like a bond like they used to be.
14:48:19 But it's with a bank, and that's who we pay it to the line account that the port has.
14:48:26 It's with Kashmir Bank. I don't know if they would be my!
14:48:29 I think they've used them a couple of times because they've had a few line of credits who would give us the best offer for it.
14:48:38 A lot of the rate depends on what our funding sources for paying it back.
14:48:44 So, you know, like the Unde Road Inner Fund Loan, we used rate, and so we know a portion of that is going to pay that back for bonds and everything. You know.
14:49:00 It? A general
14:49:06 Yes. General obligation. Loan is just the good of the county.
14:49:14 We've got these revenue sources which are primarily property taxes and sales tax for the general fund.
14:49:20 And that's what's going to it. Or would we be using something else?
14:49:25 I think Monty also has some other good points that have been brought up at other times, when loaning money for public works, projects currently the Roads Fund has 4 million
dollars in it.
14:49:40 That interest on their cash. We do invest, and it goes to the general fund.
14:49:46 They don't. It doesn't go back into the Roads fund.
14:49:49 And so, you know, between that and property taxes we have a diversion.
14:49:55 So they are quite the cash cow for earnings for the county, and so it would be a little different in interfund loans in my mind, working with them than it would be for a different
type of fund.
14:50:10 That is not contributing as much for our revenue source.
14:50:14 Not that they're bad or not good. It's just that we have made policy decisions on how we treat the funds that public works has solid waste, of course, stays all with them.
14:50:27 So the process is, we do an Rfp. I did so.
14:50:34 I also will backtrack a little bit. I did check with the State to make sure I didn't think it would, but I figured I'd better make sure and let them say it, that the local program
is not something that is designed for this type of project so they did confirm Friday that that
14:50:50 Is not something we could use for alone, or for helping to fund the project.
14:51:00 The.
14:51:07 So the other thing is, typically you work with a placeacement agent and bond council.
14:51:16 So we'd coordinate with prosecuting attorney's office because they're the ones who give approval for the Board to engage with legal counsel.
14:51:29 And so we had an old contract 2,017, with Foster pepper, and so checking with them to see who we have.
14:51:40 So the process it could go 2 ways as I've seen it one is that we engage with Bon Council. They do the Rfp.
14:51:47 For the underwriter, or we do the underwriter Rfp.
14:51:51 On her own, and work on the Bond Council aspect of it.
14:51:57 So regardless. It's the government way of getting a loan.
14:52:04 We don't just show up at the bank and say, here's here's what we want.
14:52:06 Do you have a recommendation between those 2 actors? Bond, counselor, self, or or we're doing Rp.
14:52:13 For a barn council to set up the I was really the way.
14:52:16 I also consulted with other county treasures to see if they had any.
14:52:21 Rfps that they had done recently. I found a couple, but they have different structures for how they do things.
14:52:27 So just trying to make that match our organizational structure.
14:52:35 So I would just think that if prosecuting attorneys office already has something in agreement, then we would work from there if they don't.
14:52:46 Then we would start with probably the placement agent
14:52:53 Great. How do any of these events increase our risk?
14:53:00 Any of these various options that we have for paying the or for the cash flow.
14:53:08 And funding it just so many big moving parts, you know.
14:53:14 It's just seems like the least moving parts is the best.
14:53:21 Well it so in my just distilling it down, you know
14:53:28 The cost of the system is more than what will get reimbursed.
14:53:33 And so we have our men. They've done the public works money.
14:53:38 They've done the cash flow, or the the cash analysis much better than I am.
14:53:44 I'm just making notes. But basically, you'll get reimbursed for things, but not for interest.
14:53:51 And you know, having to pay now and getting it back later.
14:53:55 So really, to me. The risk is that things go slower than you anticipate.
14:54:04 You know, if you borrow 10 million dollars it at 6%, it's $50,000 a month.
14:54:10 So the hope would be. You know your you're on it for getting things where reimbursed and and let me just say cafe in public works is excellent at what she does, and the finances
for public works.
14:54:27 But I wouldn't anticipate any issues. But there is the you have to make sure everybody is getting everything done correctly.
14:54:35 So when it's time to reimburse, they do, and they don't keep asking questions, but is if we get a 10 million dollar line of credit, we're only paying interest on what we draw
is that right?
14:54:45 You don't want to starve it too much and hold it up.
14:54:56 You know, we talked about 5 million or 7 or 10.
14:54:59 You definitely want to have the capacity to do what you need to do in the flexibility with the approvals already there.
14:55:07 But I would anticipate that they would be
14:55:13 Managing the cash best they can to make sure that we, if we spend 5 million on one thing that we get it really reimbursed as soon as possible.
14:55:23 So any dollars we have can go toward more of the project than paying interest.
14:55:28 And could you get a line of credit? That's guaranteed by like the commerce, the commerce grant, and say, this is, you know, reimbursement, Grant, and we're just going to do
these 10 million dollars.
14:55:39 And as we I mean a single is that increased, they typically typically would do basically the underwriter placement agent is going to do an Rfp that all of the banks or anyone
interested in funding it will provide information and so you're comprehensive with it when you do
14:55:56 it. You say this is why we're a good credit risk.
14:56:01 And why we'll pay it back. We have this amount coming in sales, tax if we're having things come from the general fund, or you know, we, you'd basically do the whole package,
and that the history of the county and the employers in the county and the just economic level of
14:56:25 The county means we're not gonna default on it.
14:56:33 For branch that we've I mean
14:56:46 So we assuming that I think it would be, I think it's just making sure we can also pay the interest, and I don't think we're a bad risk at all.
14:56:59 It's just that all gets put pencil to paper and very clear.
14:57:03 It's important to remember if you're adding things, Monty, that you need to come to a microphone just for the open public meetings.
14:57:10 And I might add to that part of the reason we're asking for the capital monies and the capital and priv or that, excuse me, the general fund money.
14:57:18 Then the capital fund to be moved to sewer and the Arpa money to be moved to sewer, and so that we can use that to pay contractors to minimize what we have to do on the line
of credit, and then when that money is reimbursed by commerce, it, goes back
14:57:34 Into the pot, and can make other payments to the to the contractors, as well, with the hope being that we reduce our interest expense over the duration of the project.
14:57:46 I'll also add that we have not increased our debt over many years, and a significant portion of that is allocated to Jeff Com, because that was, those were improvements for
9 1 one services, and so they pay that out of their account sales.
14:58:09 Tax they get each month. And so our portion is very small, and and so it's not like we're already, Max.
14:58:17 LED out on debt, and trying to go for more
14:58:23 To come up with the microphone. Please
14:58:28 I forgot to mention in the just the Grants we got through our Federal legislators, which will come through EPA.
14:58:37 And that ecology grant that we applied for, which has a loan component.
14:58:41 We can't use Ourpa money for the match on those we get certainly use it to cash flow.
14:58:49 Those projects, but we can't use it for match on those projects, because that's Federal matching Federal.
14:58:56 So there is, I in the case of the 2 Federal grants from our Federal legislators.
14:59:05 That's 750, plus 6, 25 is about 1.4 million dollars in local money.
14:59:13 That can't, you know, has to be local, and then the the 20 year loan.
14:59:18 If we're successful in ecology program.
14:59:22 That's I think I said the payment on that was about 87,000 a year for 20 years.
14:59:26 That'll have to be again local money sources like Piff, totally acceptable to.
14:59:32 But the Arpa money not so much on those. Just keep that in mind, you know.
14:59:38 And I would just I would also just phrase it, as the system's not going to be free.
14:59:45 It isn't an investment, but I don't think you can get it for any less. Fair enough, Kate. I wanna make sure you get a chance for any questions or comments
14:59:55 Yeah, start on the financing. I I'm just thinking, if you know, we I guess I'm curious.
15:00:04 If there's a way to provide some contingency funds for the project that that really stay with that intent, that if they aren't needed, then that they they can get moved back
over for other uses, too, and you know I I I totally agree that we need to be able to cash flow
15:00:23 This project. And so I'm not opposed to doing it.
15:00:26 I just am wondering if you know if there's some mechanism by which the the funds could be available.
15:00:34 But it doesn't like that means that that sits in the Sewer fund forever.
15:00:38 Yeah, Kate, a condition of moving the monies into the Sewer fund would be an agreement, and I think I can see money nodding up and down that should those funds not be available,
they'll be returned to the
15:00:50 Okay, great and then less financing, more kind of back to Monte's presentation.
15:01:01 Is, is is it too late for additional users to be added to the phase?
15:01:06 One service area or like what you know. I've been asked this question a few times, and I'm just curious kind of how who do we direct folks to? They're asking these questions.
Are there any thresholds you guys are still thinking about for potential new users
15:01:24 I think we're always open to the discussion. Nothing set in stone, I mean, when we let a contract that'll pretty much define what area that contract is sewing.
15:01:37 But with those Federal EPA funds were out a year and a half from deciding exactly where those are going to be spent, and and so they're still, you know, room to discuss this
to discuss some what you're talking about.
15:01:56 You know, within reason, you know. So
15:01:59 But at some point you'll probably have to say, like, Yeah, that's we.
15:02:03 We gotta just buckle down and get to work in the service area.
15:02:06 As we defined it.
15:02:08 I think when we're well, certainly, you know, we're gonna define the service area and the ordinance.
15:02:14 But again in ordinance can be opened up and and changed too.
15:02:19 But yeah, it's complicated, but nothing. There's nothing that
15:02:26 Legally prevents us from entertaining the idea of expanding into certain areas or anything like that.
15:02:33 I mean I think our funds are flexible enough if they're adequate to like, I said.
15:02:38 The projects, scalable. So if we end up getting great bids and have extra money, we can talk about what areas that we could extend into that.
15:02:51 We had an original, initially or originally planned
15:02:55 And would
15:02:55 But we have to draw. We have to put a container around it just for our own saity and ability to get something done as well.
15:03:02 Right.
15:03:04 But I've I've fielded recent phone calls from people several blocks north on Cedar Avenue.
15:03:11 I fielded phone calls from people to the west of the school, and and things like that.
15:03:18 You know from me. I call Monty about twice a month, you know, with the bound.
15:03:27 Okay.
15:03:24 So do we send folks to you or to Bob
15:03:29 Yeah, that you can refer them to me, or for now it's fine.
15:03:35 You know that boundary was more or less drawn around the the zoning, and so once you get outside of that zoning, you get into more.
15:03:44 You know, single family, residential type, zoning, which becomes a larger challenge to get everyone in a certain neighborhood, all in the same page.
15:03:55 At the same time, because it tends to follow the condition of their septic system.
15:03:59 If they're septic systems working fine, they have less interest.
15:04:04 But then the person next door to him has a failing sick system, and they can't get it soon enough, you know, and it's really challenging to address those issues.
15:04:12 And we don't have time right now to to do that. But I think we will, as we get more and more of the system built
15:04:21 So I penciled in cost for kinda ongoing project management, which reflects that you know the sewer never ends once you started it, there's always going to be
15:04:34 Questions about how and when can it be expanded? And things like that? You know
15:04:45 When on your timeline, is it time to start talking about phase 2 we've almost started phase one.
15:04:53 Are we ready for phase? 2. Well, it took how many years to get where we are with phase one, I mean.
15:04:59 Well again. I I think if there is adequate money, you know, getting the pipe headed towards Rody Drive is a great first thing to do.
15:05:11 I mean, that's our other commercial area. We'll see, you know.
15:05:19 It's complicated enough right now. So yeah, gotcha, you know.
15:05:27 2, 3 years ago, we didn't have any money, and it was hard to you know we're trying to keep everything as small as possible, so that we could have a realistically sized funding.
15:05:39 Ask, you know, what are you gonna do with 5 million dollars?
15:05:42 If that's all you get. How do you start a sewer?
15:05:46 Now now we have. You know we've we've been pretty successful, thanks to the efforts of of you all with the legislature and everything, and the applications we put together.
15:05:57 So it's a little different picture. But I mean it keeps changing, you know, and it's hard to keep up with
15:06:05 He, Monty, do you know when we should hear back from ecology
15:06:09 I think it's Bob, isn't it? January, February
15:06:16 Thank you. Bob.
15:06:22 Bob Wheeler for the record. If you need that we should here in January, if we've made it through the ecology process, then it goes to the Legislature to be approved, and then
we wouldn't get that money until July first th this year.
15:06:40 Is really the plan. What we heard, and talking with ecology is, last year they funded every project that applied, and they have more money this year that they're considering.
15:06:50 That doesn't mean there won't be more people applying.
15:06:52 But this is a high, high level, high priority project for ecology right at this point in time.
15:06:59 So fingers crossed we're very helpful. This money's gonna come through.
15:07:04 Thank you. Let us know when we should dial it into our talking point for our meetings with Representative Thereinger.
15:07:10 Or maybe we already should
15:07:15 So I want to respect everyone's time. I really appreciate this deep dive and and treasurer, afraid of, for it sounds like a recommendation that there's no better option for
cash flow than than than looking for a line of credit is if I can summarize you thusly
15:07:33 there there's a couple requests about this specifically before us, and and we will, I guess, take public comment before we take action on those items.
15:07:43 But our our people. Are you guys ready, Kate Heidi, to consider applying for a line of credit for cash flow?
15:07:53 And then also the internal supplemental budget items to create internal liquidity for the sewer project that
15:08:02 And that's tied to the conversation about how much our. But do we want to hold back for other projects and
15:08:10 Right? They're 4 projects on the table right now.
15:08:15 If you fund one or one or more of those what's left after funding those within be set aside for the server
15:08:27 Mark, would you mind pulling up the spreadsheet again?
15:08:30 Please can look at the the totals.
15:08:33 So what I heard earlier was that we have the 1 million dollars in capital funds.
15:08:37 We want to allocate to the sewer, and the 1.6 9 2 2,023 revenue sharing that we want to set aside for the sewer.
15:08:45 Excuse me. On the screen the yellow highlights towards the bottom of the left column, and the bottom of the right column would be the monies that and the number on the left
side assumes that all 3 of those are funded, and then you'd have to take another 100 off the top if you
15:09:05 Feel the broadband for South County, so that would be 2.1 7 9 plus a 1 million, and that would buy some pretty good liquidity, and and then, you know, Moni said that the estimates
construction estimates, and whatnot or are healthy but time will tell we
15:09:27 Don't know, and so I would recommend that whatever's left after you fund, whatever proposals you're gonna fund, all of that be made available to the sewer.
15:09:38 In addition to the 1 million and the Capital Improvement Fund
15:09:43 And then, should it not be needed? Of course, whatever's left at the end would be returned
15:09:49 Another strategy could be to determine how much we want to dedicate to the sewer right now and then leave a slush fund, as we think.
15:09:59 Talk about process for considering the proposals that we have on hand, and I I don't really want to say potentially others.
15:10:10 But you, you know, like if we, if we were to dedicate 2 and a half 1 million today to the sewer project, and that gives us some time.
15:10:16 And some wiggle room on the other projects.
15:10:20 What would would that? Do? You feel like that would meet the cash flow?
15:10:25 Need Monty
15:10:31 Oh, yeah, I think it would for that initial. Let's call it a 4 million dollar contract for the site work, you know, until we, you know, get the line of credit secured later
in the year.
15:10:43 Probably get us get us there. It's okay. What? Okay?
15:10:46 Okay. I'm just a little nervous about zeroing out as we as we think about process.
15:10:56 And then also just, you know, opportunistic. If there was something that came up that was like, you know, really met our criteria and opportunity.
15:11:05 That was a a game changer. As we've talked about
15:11:09 Okay.
15:11:08 Okay. So then, to achieve the 2 and a half a 1 million and a half of Arpa would then be Ted dedicated in in addition to what's already been dedicated a 1 million and a half
an additional Arpa plus a 1 million and the capital improvement fund and that would
15:11:29 700,
15:11:25 Leave? What? 1,000,004, yes, 7, almost 800,000 beyond the W.
15:11:35 What the boat school, the library, maritime trades is asking for.
15:11:38 So 900,000 $934,718,
15:11:45 Cool.
15:11:47 What's that? If you back a 1 million and a half out of that yeah. Yeah. And then take another 100 for the south account.
15:11:55 Broadband.
15:12:05 Yeah.
15:11:58 And that would allow the the sewer and Stacy's work to move forward without getting bogged down, and the rest of the conversation
15:12:09 The 6 months is what we need at least to establish that line of credit right and I'll just remind the Board that that 1.6 9 2Â s tranche we don't yet have.
15:12:21 Alright!
15:12:22 And so we could well, and we can't do this until April, because we don't have budget authority yet.
15:12:27 But but certainly it'll give us time to do all the all the co internal contracts, and so on, to make it happen
15:12:36 You're talking about the lower left number and yellow being 1.5 million.
15:12:41 But yes, 1.5 would come out of that number, and so that would leave 7 79.
15:12:50 But it's the total number in blue, because we're not.
15:12:52 We're not funding those projects we heard from earlier today.
15:12:55 So the number above the yellow in blue is 20, okay, 9, 34, 7, 18. Right?
15:13:02 Well, step one is to take a 1,000,005 out of the 2.4, and and then the board will talk about criteria and process and all that
15:13:16 I think that's seems like a really reasonable course.
15:13:18 I would like a timeline to talk about that criterion process, even though we haven't had one since.
15:13:23 Cares, because some of those requests are time sensitive, like the libraries, digital navigator, I'd like to get that on the docket we can still, I mean, not then talking for
the afternoon, but yes, absolutely well, look at I think it a timeline today is reasonable.
15:13:38 But if the 2 items, the line of credit and and the 1,000,005
15:13:46 If we have board approval to proceed on those 2 things, then these gentlemen and this fine lady can get back to work and the 1 million and capital right?
15:13:56 Correct. Okay.
15:13:58 So what we I'd be, I'd be happy to take a motion at this time.
15:14:04 As I say, we will give public an opportunity to weigh in before we take final action.
15:14:08 I'm happy to move that we allocate 1.5 million in our available Arpa funds, and it, in addition to a 1 million dollars in our capital funds to the sewer project and then also
authorize treasurer Appreda to pursue a line of credit to support the
15:14:27 Sewer, project.
15:14:30 A second.
15:14:32 Alright, that motion works for you. Okay, we have a motion on the table to assign a 1.5 million dollars available arpa money plus 1 million dollars from capital to the sewer
project.
15:14:45 As well as direct treasurer, opera, to investigate a line of credit for liquidity.
15:14:50 And now I will open it up to the public for any public comment
15:14:59 You can hit raise hand if you'd like to make a comment
15:15:08 Okay. See no public comment. I will close public comments and ask if there's any further deliberation or questions.
15:15:17 Hi! There! My seat may have. I don't Nope.
15:15:22 Very, very very good, deep presentation, alright! All in favor of the motion on the floor indicate by saying, I hi, hi!
15:15:28 Hi
15:15:30 That is unanimous. Alright! Well, thank you all.
15:15:34 Thank you, Stacey. John. Nice to meet you, Bob and Monty.
15:15:38 Great work. It's exciting that it's I.
15:15:42 I will say it broke around last year, though, right right? Yeah. Piece of pipe under the sidewalk.
15:15:46 It's the school. Yeah, under construction, currently under construction.
15:15:50 Okay. Great. Well, should we keep talking about criteria for our for a little bit more sure or at least come up with a plan, for I mean, I would say, one of these these requests
is pretty time critical, and that the who canal, the grant applications the seventeenth they're gonna put it
15:16:10 In the thirteenth for the State Broadband office. No, the letter is great, but I'm a matching Grant definitely demonstrates local support, so I don't know it.
15:16:21 To me it is clearly, you know, as we pointed out, in line with the other broadband support, we've done, and I think it does meet that criteria that we've discussed before about
highest invest used to be fun.
15:16:30 But what do you guys think about that? I love leveraging other money
15:16:35 Yeah, yeah.
15:16:36 Okay. And I, you know to me the Digital Navigator also stands out a little bit in that way, too, and that I feel like it.
15:16:43 It's a program we supported has made made it through our process, such as it is once before, and I think it's a it's a benefit throughout the whole county.
15:16:54 So I mean, I think the Budget School Project is really great.
15:16:58 I think the maritime Trades project is great.
15:17:01 They don't definitely, don't necessarily benefit the county as a whole, and I guess I'm wondering, do we want to?
15:17:08 We've done other. I think projects like this, though we have supported them.
15:17:12 So I just I am with with Heidi. And let's figure out how we're going to distribute this you know.
15:17:18 Let's say we take the 100 off the top, you know.
15:17:20 $830,000. Do we want to open it up to other nonprofits to see if there's other?
15:17:27 I mean I I'm not sure the best way to do it, because we did support the maritime center in in a similar ass, Kptz and similar ask so at least supported the idea of the wellness
center whether that ever comes to pass or not I mean we've supported a lot of things that
15:17:44 Are aspirational of the community, and I don't know I'm supportive of both the marine trades requests.
15:17:52 I mean, they both are fundamentally marine trades, and it is a huge sector of our economy, and I know that the marine trades, the Brain Trades Association is stabilizing right
now.
15:18:03 And so I feel, I feel motivated to support that, to getting them to a place of stability, so they can do their next study.
15:18:11 And so their benefit to the community again, and then the both school, you know, is building the future of our marine trade.
15:18:21 So I you know, I'm from the economic development standpoint. I'm supportive of both of those requests, and I feel like
15:18:31 I don't feel like I need a big process to get to supporting all 4 of these.
15:18:35 I feel like they're all good projects.
15:18:41 The concerns I have are a around kind of fairness to to similar partners.
15:18:48 So we just went through an agonizing process for funding home repairs with our housing providers, and you know not everybody got funded, and there were.
15:19:00 There were some similar projects. You know the the we did fund home repair in South County, and I said, worry a little bit about going outside of a process.
15:19:10 And and yet you know, of course, totally totally support it.
15:19:15 Marine trades. Also, just there are, you know, the the South South County Chambers trying to get established, you know.
15:19:24 There, there's just a lot of folks that haven't been invited to the table that I I worry.
15:19:29 It's just easy to to criticize decisions without being more transparent about how to access funds that are available instead of just, you know someone.
15:19:38 And can you get a letter without knowing that was even an option?
15:19:41 So those are my concerns not at all about the validity of the requests or the value of the projects.
15:19:49 But just how do we look at our other partners and say that we've you know that we were really fair in that process?
15:19:56 And I I've had that concern, you know, even with some of the other awards we made.
15:20:01 But they were good projects. But I, like Kate. Have just been through a pretty arduous project with the process, with the Housing Fund Board, so that that raises it into high
relief for me, too.
15:20:11 You know, if it's whether it's fair or not, I understand why Kate is saying this now, and I I I agree with both of you.
15:20:17 You know I mean, I think, could we? I mean I would say the same thing about Lao-tak and Bay Roth Advisory Committee.
15:20:23 We just went through our Jewish processes for those 2 pots of funding.
15:20:28 But so the people that didn't get it. You just send a letter to us, and we'll just without any process at all, right? Check right?
15:20:35 I mean, it just is it they don't know about that option.
15:20:37 It's should we have that option well, that was the point I brought up back in 2,021.
15:20:43 Shouldn't we have a process? So yeah, I mean, I agree with you.
15:20:45 I just think I was thinking that we were, you know people are being request forward.
15:20:51 Yeah, yeah, try to improve improvement
15:21:01 So what do you want to do? I I mean, do we want to do a an easy process?
15:21:07 Write a letter for your, you know, from our valued nonprofit partners, and then and open it up to everyone, and then consider the letters we get with no application process.
15:21:18 But just yeah, we can pursue. And, as Kate said, we did have some some pretty cares.
15:21:29 Yeah, for care, and even for our awards. We talked about highest, best use and and and leveraging other funds, you know, when, when, like Pds work, you know, if we give you
this matching Grant, you get these additional funds and it really worked out.
15:21:42 So I mean, that's I. I don't regret a lot of the projects that we've funded and and some of the ones we went through that process and and went a long ways to the process, and
then said that one doesn't quite meet mustard, and I don't know I
15:22:00 Mean I don't think that any of these projects are any of the the boat school.
15:22:06 The maritime trades, or even the digital equity.
15:22:08 Now navigator are going to fail or succeed. If we make the decision this week, or in a month.
15:22:16 So I don't know. Would you guys be open to just soliciting other other requests?
15:22:23 Or Kate was skeptical about that
15:22:26 Oh, you're muted
15:22:27 I wouldn't say skeptical. Just know that it's gonna be a a lot of work, and we probably want to put some, you know.
15:22:35 Yeah. Yep. You know, general guidelines, and set some priorities.
15:22:42 But you know we could say kind of last her off right.
15:22:45 This is the last of the Arpa funds.
15:22:47 We want to put them to good use. It's a limited funds, but you know I mean, it does put us in a position of disappointing a lot of folks.
15:22:56 Then, but it's more fair
15:22:57 Good. At least they had a chance. Right? Yeah. Oh.
15:23:08 Yeah.
15:23:11 Yeah, no, that's a good point. Icg, I mean, it's it's it's birth was about the kind of conversation or I mean, we don't have as much money now, and we're I mean looking at larger
projects.
15:23:25 Too. It got pretty granular with cares, I would say 2.4 million, and we had 30.
15:23:31 Somehow projects, yeah, I think larger projects is a criteria that we evolved from that right?
15:23:37 I mean, we really did change to wanting to make more strategic investments and and bigger projects.
15:23:42 And I think this is kind of a natural result the kind of request that we're getting now is, you know, kind of the the moving a project that W.
15:23:52 What would move the needle? The most, I guess, if you guys would like I'd be happy to take a crack this week at drafting kind of a basic as a real AD hoc process just trying
to identify and then work with you guys next week on what the criteria are for what I
15:24:15 Mean again, I'd love if we could move on the broadband one, but you know 830 or 800, whatever.
15:24:22 The the final total is that we have to allocate.
15:24:24 Now, and come up with a simple process. With that for our nonprofit and municipal partners, I guess.
15:24:33 Well is there, and commissioners? I'm gonna share my screen.
15:24:36 One more time. I just want to remind you of some of the internal funding ideas.
15:24:43 Right? Oh, yeah, we have a county to run
15:24:54 Yeah, so so right here, we're some of the internal, and we already some of what was in here previously.
15:25:03 We funded out a capital, the Center Road paving project and the Odt match.
15:25:10 We moved over to capital, but you know we've had some longstanding needs inside the county that and I'm not saying that we allocate any money to these now, but certainly internal
county projects ought to be able to compete for can you can you blow that up so we can see
15:25:27 More of the screen. I mean, is there other funding we need to be talking about?
15:25:33 This is the next revenue, sharing like what's the residual box?
15:25:37 And what's total uncommitted, I mean.
15:25:40 Total uncommitted capital. There are other chunks of funding right?
15:25:47 So we're taking a 1 million out of that. 2, 8, 8, 9 right there
15:25:50 Yeah.
15:25:53 And some of those other funding candidates. Those are capital expenses.
15:25:59 Can they be funded out of these these projects for 23?
15:26:02 Are budgeted already, right? But the the box that you were just in over there to the left, the other, the shop trailer, top trailer, record storage facility
15:26:16 Road maintenance trailer, I mean, those things could be funded out of capital right? But
15:26:23 But we have the burning community center there, and we've got preliminary expenses for paying an architect and whatnot
15:26:34 And and so, you know, a fair amount of capital is going to be committed in the following year, and 2024
15:26:43 So maybe if we can reject some of that out too. What's the timeline for our our capital conversation, our capital, and planning conversation
15:26:56 Have a workshop with the board on that
15:26:58 Hmm.
15:27:07 But could be Commissioners Eisenhower and Dean Brotherton made it an offer to come up with.
15:27:14 I mean, you offered to do it over the weekend, or what have you to come up with?
15:27:17 Something the Board could consider on the seventeenth, maybe. Oh, that's sounds great.
15:27:23 Yeah.
15:27:23 Yeah. And maybe we could talk a little bit just flesh out a few of the the topics that have come up today like housing.
15:27:29 You know, is that something we wanna consider with these funds it's such a priority.
15:27:33 Yeah.
15:27:34 And yet there's also a a very important fair process that we struggle through.
15:27:42 Hmm.
15:27:41 Yeah, so will these 4 projects wait. Until then. I think they have to
15:27:50 I would be fine advancing the broadband project just to feel like it's so clearly falls in our previous, you know.
15:27:58 Kind of infrastructure, public funding equity, like meets the criteria.
15:28:01 We've been working with up until this point, and it's time sensitive
15:28:07 Right. I think the others would we establish that? They all they could use the money, you know, soon, but they can wait for a process to be developed, sure for certain.
15:28:19 Okay, and I'll I'll talk a little bit to Mark, too, and just have some ideas for us to discuss next week about how to set up internal projects versus external projects.
15:28:32 Okay.
15:28:32 Yeah, it. It. It looks in that list at that list. It looked to me like 3 of them pretty clearly fall under the capital planning process cause.
15:28:41 It's really about facilitate a a building or a site facility.
15:28:46 And the the fourth 150,000. That's seems somewhat doable with existing capital.
15:28:53 I should say that the Undy road one, I feel a little less, you know, refunding the general fund that feels a bit like a shell game like we're we're in good position right now.
We're very lucky to be having any of these conversations
15:29:08 Hmm.
15:29:05 Right, totally yep, agreed. Okay, alright. Sounds like a plan.
15:29:11 So I would welcome a motion about the one that we're at a ready to take action on today.
15:29:18 I'm happy, though we may. Yeah, we will.
15:29:28 We took it on the other one. But I'm happy to make a motion that we allocate a $100,000 in Arpa funds to match Mason Pudd's Grant proposal for broadband for the Brandon community
15:29:40 A second.
15:29:41 Okay, and I will open it up again to the public for any comments
15:29:52 Okay, seeing no public comment, I will close public comment and call the question all in favor of supporting Mason puds.
15:30:02 Collaboration with what canal coordinate, who could now communications on on the the powerful replacement project indicate by saying, Aye, aye, aye, that's unanimous. Alright.
15:30:15 Well, we had a fairly robust afternoon, after all. Thanks for being able to rejoin us.
15:30:22 Sorry.
15:30:21 Kate really appreciate having you here
15:30:25 I'm exhausted. I don't know anything else that we want to talk about today.
15:30:29 Well, should we talk a little bit about kind of guidance for the the the letter of interest that soliciting.
15:30:34 Yes, yep.
15:30:37 So I think I think an important thing would be to decide on an amount available, and to give some guideline on on size of ask, you know, do we see kind of going back to a number
of smaller allocations, or a handful of larger ones if you could be good to narrow down
15:30:56 The they ask a little bit
15:30:59 And maybe think about priorities
15:31:02 I feel like the range that we have in the request today is pretty appropriate, actually, kind of 20 k.
15:31:08 To 100 k. So not not small. Don't want to make 30 different costs.
15:31:13 Things that move the needle. Alright!
15:31:19 Hmm! I still think the leveraging by other funds
15:31:25 Yeah, I think we'd want to see a budget and any potential like matching funds that it's gonna leverage.
15:31:33 As Betsy mentioned hers would. Leverage yeah, 20% of the total, I think I mean our sorry.
15:31:42 It is.
15:31:43 Go ahead, Kate. I didn't mean Stephanie
15:31:45 Just that the you know, these could be coming from every sector.
15:31:48 Imaginable. So the more we can kind of refine make our job easier
15:31:55 I mean workforce housing is something that we we know is a crisis level through all the different industries.
15:32:03 I'd say I I would be happy to put housing in there as a as an important criteria and economy.
15:32:12 I would. I mean coming within the spirit of recovery, and you know our Barbara funds being recovery funds, some of our economic sectors are still getting back on their feet.
15:32:25 Yeah, for sure.
15:32:26 And we have a preference for capital versus operations.
15:32:36 I mean. Previously we've done more capital support for for larger projects, but I I don't think recovery might be defined as operations in the in this, you know, thinking about
nonprofits and struggling and operations is sometimes what you're really where the struggle really is I
15:32:58 think, the applicants are the people writing the letter could outline that.
15:33:02 I mean I I I see public good as something that's, you know, kind of hard for some of these to to parks, but in in any there's a public benefit that's there, too, that is, you
know, a little swishy sometimes.
15:33:19 But would you guys be okay with public benefit
15:33:23 Yeah, I think that's the business we're in
15:33:27 Umhm.
15:33:33 Geographic diversity.
15:33:37 Yeah.
15:33:48 Who.
15:33:39 Maybe I'm trying to think how to words like other like, do we wanna prioritize folks that have not gotten funding from us previously?
15:33:57 Other Arpa phones specifically.
15:34:00 And we're talking about nonprofits. And municipalities exclusively.
15:34:05 How long do we want this to run? We don't want, I mean, we want it to be.
15:34:10 We? Mean, how long do we want to do? We want people to send us their letter by?
15:34:15 Oh, end of the month
15:34:20 I mean, if we want that we should be as clear and kind of as possible
15:34:28 I guess we would advertise it.
15:34:37 Project.
15:34:31 Yeah, and maybe just request a letter of interest. And you know, with outlining a few key details and a budget, you try to keep it simple
15:34:43 Letter of interest in a Project budget
15:34:46 Yeah.
15:34:46 Okay.
15:34:51 Should include the things like the business type. What what type of business or public entity
15:34:49 And then should we make the February meeting of the Icg.
15:35:01 The Selection Committee
15:35:07 Hmm.
15:35:04 I don't think so. I think that would complicate it a lot
15:35:10 There might be some applicants in that group
15:35:13 Hmm.
15:35:12 Hmm, hmm.
15:35:18 So so did we decide municipality businesses and nonprofits were eligible, or we didn't say businesses, but we could.
15:35:26 I mean, I said, nonprofits and municipalities
15:35:29 Or a public sector.
15:35:31 Public sector. Sorry. Yeah.
15:35:40 I don't
15:35:39 Yeah, cause I needed. You know, the Edc. Managed the grants for business, or like that, also included nonprofits.
15:35:47 Yeah.
15:35:48 It did. So they're ha, yeah, I think
15:35:54 There has been some more opportunity for businesses previously. Well, in nonprofits
15:36:00 Do we want to talk about whether or not people have fun?
15:36:07 They've been funded before that was mentioned, but I didn't write it down previous arpa funding. Yeah, previous arpa funding
15:36:16 I think I think so. I mean, I think we're trying to reach folks.
15:36:19 We haven't reached yet right
15:36:21 Yeah.
15:36:24 Previous county awards, and Arpa cares
15:36:28 And we, you know we don't have to draw hard lines, but maybe just, you know, considerations will include.
15:36:34 But this is it's gonna be like we went through the housing board.
15:36:38 It's going to be really subjective. And you know there's the hard part of doing this work
15:36:43 I was we had. I wish we had done this in the first round kind of our allocation
15:36:52 I haven't. I haven't. It was an arduous process. Yeah.
15:36:50 Well, but we had just had done it with cares, which, doing it again, a massive public process
15:37:02 And are we talking? 9, $830,000? Is that what we got?
15:37:10 We're down to 6, 79, 7, 18.
15:37:13 This is a lot of process for 6 79, we say 6, $8,288 in my pocket.
15:37:29 Hmm.
15:37:28 Yeah, okay, so 680, we're looking for a simple letter of interest.
15:37:36 Okay. I think I have enough to get started out. You know something for us to tear apart.
15:37:41 At least
15:37:35 Thank you.
15:37:44 So? How did I get down from 8 34 to 6 80?
15:37:49 So quick, and should we be keeping any money for anything we have forgotten, else we forgot about
15:38:01 Regular art, book column, because it's a it's a an hour and allowable use under the original art, but not revenue sharing that reduced what was available to 4 92.
15:38:14 Add that to the 1, 8, 4, 1, 7, 70, you get 2, 3, 3, 4.
15:38:18 I could put it up on screen
15:38:34 So this number equal is the sum of this number, plus that number, and then you subtract out when you committed to the sewer, pick out a 100 for both.
15:38:44 If you decide to fund, which we don't know yet.
15:38:50 The the yeah. So you want to assume that they're not funded yet.
15:38:56 So you could then see this, that plus this plus that we can say 8, 30 that was, yeah. I think that's that's our intention.
15:39:09 Yeah, Kate, it 834
15:39:13 8, 35,
15:39:15 Make it up money. Okay? And I would remind the Board that in the past you have made grants out of the general fund.
15:39:25 One to the Historical Society for 10 grand, and I think one to Trinity.
15:39:30 United method is church for 20, and so, if the maritime trades doesn't meet the criteria, the you develop for Arpa, you can still send them some money.
15:39:42 Okay.
15:39:46 Sounds good. Alright. Now, set on that. Yeah, yeah.
15:39:54 Okay, anything else? We wanna discuss today
15:40:00 No, the wind, the wind. It is windy
15:40:06 Alright. Nothing else from you today, Kate.
15:40:10 Let me just look at my calendar real quick, and see if if I have any conflicts coming up
15:40:16 Yup!
15:40:22 I will be out on Friday this Friday. That's why I
15:40:31 Had to move a number of meetings around with our new committee assignments and such, but I think that's all working out pretty well.
15:40:39 Oh, the our joint special meeting with the planning commission interferes with the Legislative Steering Committee meeting in Olympia.
15:40:50 Unfortunately. So I'm really bummed to miss that.
15:40:54 Do we know what the topic is for that meeting
15:40:59 I don't
15:41:01 For.
15:41:04 If I recall a conversation had with Brent weeks ago, I think it might be the the Current Year Program Work Plan.
15:41:16 Did you re join remotely, or it's like, right in the middle of the meeting
15:41:19 I have to. She'll be sharing the Lsc.
15:41:22 Meeting at that time
15:41:24 Yeah.
15:41:22 Yeah, that's challenge. I mean, we can ask them, you know, they meet twice a month.
15:41:27 We can see if they can do it. At the subsequent Planning commission meeting
15:41:32 If it's 2 weeks later, it'll be the same conflict.
15:41:35 But let me see.
15:41:36 Well, is it your planning can measure? Commission desires a joint session with the Board of County Commissioners.
15:41:45 Sounds like they want to do it every January second January second regular, maybe in January.
15:41:54 I could reach out to Brett and see if that's scheduled and let him know about my conflict.
15:41:58 Okay. Wanted to track that down, and if we can, I'm sure they'd like to have all, all of us there.
15:42:04 Yeah.
15:42:04 So if we can schedule it in February, they probably be an amenable
15:42:07 Yeah, okay.
15:42:11 I will be getting into a regular challenge of getting to Board of Health on time, also, because of legislative steering committee.
15:42:23 But maybe I'll just call in, you know, if I'm still driving.
15:42:28 Call in, and then show up at the courthouse. But apologize in advance for that.
15:42:34 It's a sharing, is I'm finding it's taking more, you know.
15:42:38 I just have to be be there early and stay late, and more of a responsibility at home than Olympia
15:42:43 Totally.
15:42:46 Okay, you know, I think that's all. I wanna cover
15:42:49 Okay. Hmm. No one else says anything. I will adjourn this meeting for the day.
15:42:57 Thanks for the good work. Thanks everyone. So you guys, next Tuesday, with Dr.
15:43:00 Barry's update as well. Great