HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:00:17 Yes, go ahead and start recording it.
09:00:22 All right. Good morning, everyone. I will call this February 20, seventh meeting of the Board of County Commissioners to order.
09:00:31 Thanks for being with us today. Got another packed schedule, as you can see.
09:00:36 At 9, 45 will be talking about the last call.
09:00:40 Arpa applications. But first, as always, we'll start with a public comment.
09:00:46 So we'll look to folks in the room, or virtual, if you'd like to make public comment today, we'd love to hear from you.
09:00:52 Please come up to to the lecture and do speak in the microphone.
09:00:58 Get it to the appropriate place. You'll have 3Â min to speak.
09:01:01 Okay, can you lift up your the microphone? Thank you.
09:01:04 Live nearby. Yeah, I'm a little dismayed to hear that there's actually another roundabout that is gonna be established at the Visitor Center.
09:01:15 There on the highway, as well as the one on the end of it.
09:01:19 Good canal bridge, and I just kind of. I like to.
09:01:21 I've express my frustration with not being able to hear about this sooner and a lot of people feel the same way, including the visitor, center and square. Nobody seems to have
heard about this thing.
09:01:33 But under the radar, and all of a sudden it's announced to go in the summer.
09:01:37 No! Am I correct? That? We're gonna have one there that is absolutely even more inappropriate.
09:01:44 And I'll venture to save in the one on the end of the bridge that we had so much discussion on, and you know and it's all to take place right about the same time that the bridge
is going to be worked on in August.
09:01:56 Okay, folks. I mean, we didn't. Didn't we think this thing through better?
09:02:01 That is not as dangerous as made out to be, even though some people in poor level seem to think so at the Visitor Center on.
09:02:11 So okay, am I correct? That's gonna be completed this summer as well as the all the work done in August.
09:02:22 Thank you. Thank you, Brian. And we'll listen to all the public comments and then respond to them.
09:02:27 At the end of of the public, having having their voice, but we appreciate you being with us, and we will respond, and now I'll turn to folks online if you would like to make
public comment.
09:02:38 You can click the raise hand button or star 9 if you're on your phone and we would love to hear from you.
09:02:46 We do our continuing our hearing, I'll just go on to add that.
09:02:52 Let me look at the schedule here our hearing continues.
09:02:55 I think only for written comments, right? Is that what we said for the courthouse security?
09:02:59 So we're not gonna have another testimony period.
09:03:02 We did get some more written testimony for the 1045, continuation of that hearing and then we're also going to potentially take action.
09:03:09 This afternoon at 1 30. Regarding the Ott. 2 terrace phase, 2.
09:03:15 Plat alteration, though. We'll talk about that when we get there.
09:03:20 Some of the documents were only available this morning. So if you, if you're interested in that issue, I would, I would look back at the agenda, and there's quite a few more
documents there, including the staff recommendation which wasn't there over the weekend so i'll turn once more to the Zoom room to see if
09:03:33 there's anyone that would like to make public comment today.
09:03:39 Alright! Let's bring Julie over.
09:03:48 Welcome, welcome, Julia, as soon as you get yourself unmuted.
09:03:54 You'll have 3Â min to to talk. It's good to see you.
09:03:58 Good morning. Hi! I saw your office one day without you.
09:04:03 Actually, Greg, because I showed up for a meeting that cancelled.
09:04:07 Oh, I'm sorry!
09:04:07 It's like I'm gonna go in person. Oh, yay, anyway, I am actually decided to share some thoughts about the fairgrounds, which is a little bit out of my wheelhouse.
09:04:21 But I worked there a couple of times. Last summer I worked there for the county fair and I worked there for the fiftieth birthday of the Co-OP, and both of those were filled
with the community that I know and love, and was completely fine the fairground.
09:04:40 S experience, I actually ended up in charge of a football team which was somewhat hysterical, and they did things in coordinated.
09:04:50 They coordinate their movements in ways, I guess a football team can.
09:04:54 But it was very funny to see these young men do that.
09:04:59 And anyway, and then I heard that the guy that I had worked for is no longer there, and that a chunk of the board quit, and this and that, and I'm really sad about that, because
I was feeling really hopeful that the fairgrounds is going to become part of the larger community and I
09:05:17 just ask that you let you know, and part of it is, that was the younger generation that had started running it, and I hope that can continue that whoever replaces him is part
of that generation, and takes the fairground into the 20 first century of being something that builds community and something, that is an actual resource
09:05:39 for our community, because there are. It's a resource, and it needs to be a resource for the whole community, not just people who have animals.
09:05:48 And that's my feelings about it. Animals and crops, I mean, we aren't just a farming county.
09:05:54 Okay, that's it. Have a great day.
09:05:57 Great. Thank you very much, Coach Cochrane. Anyone else like to make public comment today.
09:06:06 See, no one else will respond, we'll keep public comment open till 9 30, in case anyone is moved to comment.
09:06:12 But we'll respond to the 2 comments we have anyone like to start this morning.
09:06:18 I could start. Since I've been kind of taking the lead on these the 2 issues that have brought it been brought up so far.
09:06:30 So Brian, definitely share your concern about kind of process with washdog, and the I can say we generally have.
09:06:40 I have different concerns. I we've known about the roundabouts for a while, and they were actually supposed to be constructed last summer and got delayed.
09:06:47 But there were plan was always to do the 2, one at Paradise Bay Road and the other at 19 there, so we've known about it for a while.
09:06:58 But the lack of consultation with the county has been really challenging, and we've been working more recently on the Put Canal bridge closures for the repair project.
09:07:07 They're doing there, which the timing does just seem impossible.
09:07:12 With a it's gonna be a detour on 101 at the same time, the exact same time they're planning on having the bridge be closed and doing the construction on those 2.
09:07:21 So it's you know. I I'm torn because I appreciate that the work is getting done these are projects that I'll need to get done.
09:07:31 I know we probably disagree on the need for a roundabout.
09:07:34 I happen to be a roundabout fan. But yeah, it's it is frustrating.
09:07:38 And, I do want to add to the agenda today some discussions and follow up to our special meeting on Thursday, and how we want to follow up with washdog, and we're trying to push
for some changes to the date closure or some mitigation, more to
09:07:54 come. But yeah, agree, it's really frustrating and I'll just say again, it's you know, really, it seems like there was a lot of consideration given to people visiting the Peninsula,
and not a lot of consideration given to those of us who live here and that's
09:08:10 that's frustrating. Ms.
09:08:15 Cochran, the fairgrounds so the county, as the owners of that land share some of your concerns, and have been we've met with the fair board, and have been in close communication
with them about making some changes to their governance structure account is kind of inserting themselves into
09:08:34 their process more, and they are open to it, and we are working together to look at redoing our agreement with them, to put in some more transparency and accountability to have
more say and kind of the vision for the fairgrounds, for how things operate how new uses are considered and also the board
09:08:56 composition, so there's more to come on this.
09:09:00 But we're operating in good faith right now with them in hopes that we can get both our agreement and their bylaws in good shape, where we feel good about how that important
community asset.
09:09:12 Excuse me, is being stewarded. So yeah, that's it for me to, for now.
09:09:21 I would do. This is Heidi, for those who can't see.
09:09:26 I would just add, on the roundabouts, you know, I've been a commuter off the Peninsula at times in my professional life, having lived here and have been stuck in back up some
traffic for inordinate amounts of time, and have been excited about the
09:09:44 roundabouts because of their potential to kind of smooth the traffic process.
09:09:49 But it is frustrating all of these traffic projects being done essentially in the same time, block.
09:09:58 And you know it's not clear to me some of the solutions that have been proposed, even by department of Transportation.
09:10:04 It's not clear to me how supportive of their own solutions they are, or alternatives to their current proposal.
09:10:11 So got a lot lot a lot a lot of input after that meeting on Thursday, and a lot of people feeling like not sure we were heard.
09:10:22 And you know a lot of concerns. Lot of businesses feeling, you know, standing at the edge after the pandemic and feeling like this, might push them over the edge so and then
on the fairgrounds, hey? Reading all the comments you know, I'm hearing people about possibility of that land and the
09:10:44 potential and all the things that could be done out there. And I think there's a glimmer of that, a pretty big glimmer in in the idea of the pump track.
09:10:52 And I'm excited about that project, and I think that you know this is a time to lean in, and you know I was thinking back to when we were redoing the lease with the fair board
was in the midst of the the fairground.
09:11:05 You know, moving the homeless encampment from the fairgrounds, and all these other issues were going on, and I don't know if we really took the time to pause and put the long
button long look lenses on and think about the future of that place.
09:11:21 But I'm glad that we're digging in on it now, and happy to help.
09:11:24 However, I can. Alright. Thank you. Guys. I'll get my own microphone.
09:11:30 And you guys covered it pretty well. I mean, I will.
09:11:34 I think we kind of danced around it, Brian.
09:11:35 But to your point. We are also fairly passive spectators, and not we didn't have any decision points on the roundabouts, and even trying to get.
09:11:44 You know our county engineers in input into some of the county roads that intersect with the state roads has been mostly.
09:11:52 We will take your feedback and then go to our engineers and make our own conclusions.
09:11:55 And that's frustrating from, you know.
09:11:58 I'm a pretty good round of a supporter of roundabouts as well, but the process has been strange, just you know there's 2 roundabouts coming into Port Townsend, too, so so there's
lots of rightabouts.
09:12:10 Coming I use the one at Agate Pass recently, and loved it.
09:12:13 I have to say, going to the bane, going to Bamboo Island.
09:12:16 Now I think that they can really be helpful, and, you know, stopping those 90 degree collisions really prevent serious injury.
09:12:27 So I'm not a a foe of roundabouts, but we do definitely want more more dialogue with Washd, as they have a pretty aggressive schedule this summer, and sometimes they're their
detour planning isn't quite up to stuff.
09:12:46 you know. You know we've got bridges that can't take big trucks that are gonna be main arterials.
09:12:51 When some of these fish passage work and and other work happened.
09:12:55 So it's gonna be a challenge. I think we'll all be glad when they're done.
09:13:00 And we're looking at the project in the rear view mirror.
09:13:02 But I do take your concern, and to Julia appreciate you.
09:13:08 You're raising this, and I'm the kind of positive you spin on.
09:13:11 Spin you put on it. I also think that a lot of good stuff has been happening at the fairgrounds, and, as we, you know, kind of wait in to grapple with some of the issues with
with the board and the community, I think I hope some of the energy that's
09:13:25 been around there. Yeah, percolates through and continuous cause.
09:13:29 There's a lot of positive positive actions going on there, whether community community events or new lessees and developments.
09:13:39 I think it's an exciting time with some some oversight that needs to be helped.
09:13:46 So we're there to do that, I will look back to the our online audience to see if anyone else has been moved to comment.
09:13:57 And oh, yep! And we bring over Peter bails.
09:14:10 Mister Bails. Good morning. When you get yourself unmuted.
09:14:13 You have 3Â min.
09:14:15 Good morning!
09:14:18 I just wanted to remind the Commissioners that this Tuesday there's a meeting.
09:14:23 Yeah. Held by Dnr. Ap. Public hearing for the day inter custom exchange, and.
09:14:37 There's been a long process, and this is the second.
09:14:41 This is the repeat here, and they had a packet from back in August 2021, as you guys know.
09:14:47 Thanks to you, Dnr. Did decide to go ahead, and proposed the full exchange rather than a half half exchange or a partial exchange, and they're gonna be taking other comment
on that and I'm wondering if you've got a letter of support.
09:15:07 That you're gonna be talking about today on that. I didn't see it on the consent agenda.
09:15:15 Gotcha. Thanks.
09:15:17 Great. Thank you very much, Peter. And I'll just answer. We did.
09:15:22 We do have the letter. We all have a copy of it.
09:15:24 We're gonna consider it today. And I think we'll talk in our calendaring.
09:15:27 2, about which which commissioners are going to be able to attend that hearing down and quilting tomorrow evening.
09:15:33 We also have a couple other letters to consider today. So we'll talk about that as we set up our agenda when public comment is done.
09:15:43 But we'll first turn to Mr. Tiersh. Love to hear from you, Mr. Josh.
09:15:49 Thank you. And good morning, commissioners, staff. Everyone couple of comments for you this morning.
09:15:57 First of all, on little disappointed that there doesn't seem to be a recording available of that special meeting that you held because it sounded like it was a pretty lively
discussion on it.
09:16:09 Didn't wasn't, didn't have the opportunity to attend, and I guess I'm gonna miss it.
09:16:14 But so maybe you could record those in the future at least the important ones might be helpful.
09:16:20 The other thing I wanted to comment on, even though the period of formal testimony is over.
09:16:26 It is your courthouse security measure that you're going to be taking up a little bit later this morning.
09:16:33 The oh, I just wanna reiterate my strong feelings about the fact that everybody needs to be screened.
09:16:40 All these exceptions that are written into the ordinance as it stands, I think that's it's just wrong-minded, wrong-headed to assume that certain people are.
09:16:51 Gonna be okay, just because they happen to carry a like a bar card or some other id like even an employee.
09:17:00 Id, unless you go to that measure where you're actually using security cards to enter through the doors where you clock in people you know exactly who's coming in when they
coming in.
09:17:13 And you have security cameras monitoring those locations.
09:17:16 And I think you need to screen everybody. I found some interesting numbers from the Bureau of Justice Statistics that more than 30% of workplace violence happens from people.
09:17:31 You know they're not strangers, you know. These are people that you work with every day, people that you know from the community even in a small town like this, you know.
09:17:44 And interestingly enough, 80% of workplace violence did not involve a weapon.
09:17:48 We're talking about insult assaults and all sorts of other things.
09:17:53 So, you know, even screening for weapons as they're widely defined.
09:17:57 Now in this ordinance is gonna be not really helpful.
09:18:02 Maybe I don't. I don't have any easy answers, but I do know that a 100% screening is going to be a large deterrent to the problem.
09:18:10 I would also point out that when you go to the airport, even the pilots, the crew, everybody goes through Tsa screening.
09:18:17 Nobody is exempt. You trust your pilots right well, they get screened.
09:18:24 So you know. Please think, think about those points, and and keep it in mind, as you deliberate.
09:18:31 Thank you very much, Mr. Tiersh got a couple of minutes left.
09:18:36 Anyone else like to make public comment. You can click the raise hand button or star 9 if you're on the phone.
09:18:44 Question. I'll allow it come up to the so everyone at home can hear you too.
09:18:52 Oh, you go! Go ahead, Brian. I'll allow it.
09:18:54 But just to add to the podium, so that the audience at home can yeah question about the 2 Boat Fairies.
09:19:00 Are we gonna get that back this summer? Especially? No, we're not. Yeah.
09:19:07 I mean, they're just. I mean, they're struggling with staffing and everything, and we talked about that in our special meeting with with washed out last week.
09:19:18 And there's they. We were asking about extra boats or mitigations for the work, and it came pretty clear.
09:19:26 I mean, you guys agree with my interpretation that yeah, there's we are last on the priority list for the fairies pretty much or near the bottom.
09:19:34 And to Mister there was another question, okay, any other responses to Mr.
09:19:43 Tiersh Mr. Bails, yeah. Couple of things, I assume, Mr.
09:19:47 Tusha was talking about the special meeting with Washdog, and do we know oh, that's what I have.
09:19:54 It is on laser fee, and it will go onto a be capture soon. It's just a workflow issue.
09:19:58 So Zoom Meetings 80 capture, so that.
09:20:08 So, looking under the laser fee and the Board of County Commissioners voc, and then Zoom Meetings, and you'll be able to see the zoom recording of that meeting.
09:20:15 So it it is available today, or we'll get it posted up on onto Ab capture.
09:20:22 2 right great, and to Mister Bales I I was surprised that we didn't get notified by Dnr.
09:20:31 About the hearing. But I think actually, while Peter was talking to us, we got, and we got a notice from Dnr.
09:20:39 So a little late. Be nice to yeah. I had just wanted about it somewhere, randomly.
09:20:45 But like, yeah, it'd be nice to be informed about these things.
09:20:48 So just just this minute got an email from? Dnr, so yeah, a little frustrating there, too, that state agencies don't always communicate with the folks who are doing a lot of
the work.
09:20:58 Yeah, I got a voicemail. Bob wins that just now.
09:21:01 Hmm!
09:21:05 Any other response hiding? No, okay. We will talk about the the letter.
09:21:10 We have a draft that Mister Bails assisted us with, and we'll talk about that, and maybe we can just preview the other letters that we have.
09:21:18 I have one from the mason pud, one to consider for supporting an earmarked request for the electrical work, in Brennan, South County that is supported in on the electricity
side by Mason Pud.
09:21:34 One, and I have one from Ghost Johnson, regarding a raise application for the the new Bridge.
09:21:46 The bridge. Replacement on linger longer road down in quilts which is part of a hood canal, salmon, enhancement Group Project and Gotcha Monty, the county engineer.
09:21:54 They've kind of gone through a couple of different design schematics, and now they're replacing the existing bridge, not changing routes or anything.
09:22:00 That monte is fully in support of the of the course that they're pursuing right now.
09:22:04 So we have that one. We have the the trust land transfer the intertrust, exchange letter to consider, and then, Kate, do you also have one lot of support for the city of Port
Townsend healthier together?
09:22:22 Appropriation, requests, so appropriation requests that we should consider.
09:22:26 We'll do, maybe plan on those I don't know if you send a copy of that around so we can look at it at lunch, and I'll get all these sent to, so we'll get them out to through
mark to each other so we can read them all at lunch and
09:22:41 come back with any drafts. Crafting changes.
09:22:44 That's fine. I do know the deadline on the appropriations letters, is it?
09:22:52 Maybe it's tomorrow tomorrow. Okay, we've got a whole day.
09:22:55 Yeah, lots of time. Yes, yeah.
09:22:59 Okay.
09:23:02 Well, we'll keep public comment open till 9 30, but I guess we can take a quick look at the consent.
09:23:10 Agenda any notes or questions about the consent agenda.
09:23:16 Hold on! Just a sec. Hey? Mark, Mark, do you mind sending out the version?
09:23:21 You have a version with your edits, which are great, which of the healthier together?
09:23:26 Letter would you mind sending that to Heidi and Greg?
09:23:28 Oh, the one from Friday, I think. It sent to me, and I sent to you. Yep, your edits are great. Thank you.
09:23:36 Sorry. Greg, yeah, no problem. You want to forget.
09:23:41 Comments, questions about the on the consent agenda.
09:23:47 No, I think this this source of funding the using tobacco power James, yeah, it's a new one to me.
09:23:57 Or maybe I've seen it before, but seems like a good thing.
09:24:01 I, yeah, don't know what the process is to get in the queue for that.
09:24:05 But I think you go in through. These are all through the empowered teams, coalitions, aren't they?
09:24:10 I think so.
09:24:12 They have. Grant money, they can expand in a lot of flexible ways.
09:24:16 And so this is, you know, yeah, it's nice to see them, you know.
09:24:21 Prevention, yeah.
09:24:28 Find those funds too, always happy to see restoration of chemical components.
09:24:33 That's, I think, the property that's right there at Spring Ring Farm, next to the next to the junkyard and chemical, and a lot of work has gone into that property over the years.
09:24:44 Glad to see. Just think! This is just an extension of time.
09:24:48 Now anyway, number 7 might look familiar. You assigned to one very recently, after we updated that agreement, the auditors or Federal funders came back again and said, Oh, we
we wanna see another revision.
09:25:08 So I had to go back through the whole process again, which is such a pain that's wasteful of legal time.
09:25:14 And anyway, reminding us how many of these dollars, and up in Jefferson County?
09:25:21 Yeah, in case, in case you're wondering why that again.
09:25:25 But will get us in in compliance.
09:25:29 I'm happy to move, to approve and adopt the consent.
09:25:32 Agenda as presented foggy brain over here, is happy to second that it's been moved, and seconded to approve in the adopt of the consent agenda, as presented any last questions
or concerns.
09:25:45 Hearing none, all in favor indicate by saying, Hi! Hi! And agenda is past.
09:25:52 Okay, so we have a timing for our discussion and potential approval of the of the Arpa funding request.
09:26:02 But I do. Maybe wanna just take a moment to talk about our process here.
09:26:06 And you know we've got wouldn't that be good that 9, 45, if folks were fine because I'm just wondering, I guess.
09:26:15 Probably not gonna finish in an hour, anyways. Alright! Well, let's go.
09:26:17 Let's go back to briefing real quick.
09:26:21 We did not even get we got, I think, halfway through one and a half.
09:26:25 Commissioners got through their briefing last week. So, Kate, I think you are midway through the week.
09:26:32 If memory serves, is it better to go all the way back, or well, you can't wait to go all the way back, or well, you can just start with last week, and I'm happy for somebody
else to go.
09:26:50 I took. Go ahead you can. Why don't you go back?
09:26:53 And you know, touch on the week before. Alright, hmm!
09:26:59 That's that's a heavy lift to remember where I left off.
09:27:05 We were all in Board of Health and in our governmental collaborative group together.
09:27:13 It's amazing. A week and a half ago. Seems like a 1 million years ago I might have to go back to next week.
09:27:22 Okay, or last week, to just do last week. That's yeah. We can. We can.
09:27:27 It was a short story week. Yeah, we can, we can. It was a short and busy week last week.
09:27:30 Let's see. So, testimony on Monday here, with all of you sorry testimony to the Legislature.
09:27:38 Monday here with all of you on Tuesday, on Wednesday we had a Budget committee meeting, not a lot to report out there.
09:27:48 We don't have a lot of data at the beginning of the year, but most notably it was how much the reach our real estate excise tax is down so far.
09:27:58 Beginning of the year. So that's an important source, especially for our capital fund.
09:28:06 So it's something like we look closely at. I'll be watching that spent a lot of time preparing for the special meeting we had with Washdot.
09:28:17 So meeting with Chief Black and number of folks in preparation.
09:28:26 I had the Housing Fund Board was cancelled. We did not have a quorum.
09:28:32 I had a meeting on our child. Care, facility in preparation for a meeting with Usda on Thursday, which I'll talk about in a minute.
09:28:42 But we'll say that went to Barstool Bingo for the pump track, and it's great to see a big turnout of folks who are volunteering to try to help get that project off the ground.
09:28:54 Thursday. Busy day. Our special meeting with Washdot.
09:28:59 Like, I said, hoping that we can revisit that today.
09:29:02 Talk about follow-ups to that. Then had a daunting meeting with Usda.
09:29:09 You know the the county agreed to apply for the earmarked, the congressionally directed spending appropriation.
09:29:17 For that project. And you know it had not been awarded the year before to Jefferson.
09:29:23 Health care. So it was like, Oh, we should try again, and we got it, which is great, but it's just a reminder of how many strings are attached to any Federal funds.
09:29:34 So it's gonna be a lot of work. Our grants administrator got thrown into that, and he's been great and really glad he is here to help you things in order.
09:29:45 It's a complicated project, because there are so many partners.
09:29:50 But Usda seems really willing to work with us. They're very helpful, but it's going to be a lot of status.
09:29:54 Yeah, Yup. Michael. Michael. Michael. Marco.
09:30:04 Michael Marco, grandson. Yes, he seemed up to it. Yeah, yeah, he he actually was less daunting than I was.
09:30:06 And maybe it's just because I'm a little out of practice with Federal grants.
09:30:09 But he jumped in fully, which really appreciate it.
09:30:12 Haven't seen him since it's interviewed so I like to check on him when when he comes up.
09:30:19 Nice. Let's see. Had a North Olympic Development Council meeting, and this is important question for you.
09:30:28 Greg. So the State funding for Bremen action teams is now available and Wsu is, I think, kind of in charge of distributing that.
09:30:49 And so they presented on Thursday, and they asked what the status was of Jay Bat, and who to contact about getting this funding for more planning work and nobody on the call
knew.
09:31:03 So I did let the Pud know, and just, and we did the.
09:31:07 We haven't had the meeting for a couple of weeks at Jaba, and you just ask for a meeting.
09:31:11 So maybe that's why, okay, great. Just wanna make sure we don't leave money on the table.
09:31:17 For sure. Yeah, so I assigned my volunteer, but to the Wasossacks great.
09:31:24 Oh, sorry. Roadmap! That's awesome.
09:31:30 Good, and Friday had another meeting about a number of energy projects that are happening.
09:31:43 One of the purposes was to coordinate entities, that are going to be applying for number of grants.
09:31:51 The only one, I think we really talked about was the solar plus storage grant, which could be a good fit for the community centers.
09:31:58 So I know Chris. Goy has taken a look at those.
09:32:01 It's another month until those are due. But we were being encouraged by commerce and by Wsu to to take a look at those, and they made it sound like there might be some technical
assistance available.
09:32:15 If if getting over that hurdle of getting those applications in is good, you submit kind of a letter of interest, and then a short application upfront, and then they ask you
to, you know, apply fully if they're interested in your project.
09:32:29 So, I think it's worth it. If facilities feels up for it.
09:32:36 So, maybe we'll mark you, and I could send back with Chris on that and see where there and I know they're stretched pretty thin, but it's really good timing with both of those
facilities needing upgrades and to have a yeah exactly and
09:32:52 to be able to get funding to install solar that has that storage. To be able to provide a space for folks to go during power outages just seems like a really good.
09:33:07 Funds to work on the roof itself right the the solar panels capable of holding the added way right.
09:33:16 And if it's not capable, then reengineering it seems like a real opportunity.
09:33:20 Yeah. Yep. So funny. That was on Friday, and then I am.
09:33:26 I went to Zoomba in the community center, Jim, yesterday, and it was packed. It was unbelievable.
09:33:32 It's like 50 people in there doing so. That I just thought, this is such an asset, and really don't wanna lose lose the you know that historic, great, well located asset in
the middle of town.
09:33:45 So I was motivated, you know. Exercise. Does that too?
09:33:50 You get all positive that can do anything. Congratulations on your appointment to the State Board of Health. Thank you.
09:34:00 Through last week, yeah, yeah, that's super exciting. Yeah, it's going to be a whole new crash course.
09:34:08 A lot to catch up on. And yeah, so there's a county representative, a county commissioner gets appointed.
09:34:15 Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. Just one. Yeah.
09:34:19 The whole state. Yeah, that just magnifies the honor.
09:34:24 Yeah, and the responsibility. 39. Yeah, big deal.
09:34:34 Big deal community. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting, you know. I mean, they handle things like vaccine mandates for schools deciding which vaccines are required in schools,
vaccine mandates for schools deciding which vaccines are required in schools. And you know, it's some tough issues
09:34:43 so I I'm looking forward to digging at at a deeper level, and learning and working with, you know, Dr.
09:34:52 Shaw and Dr. Linquist, and some brilliant people.
09:34:56 I have way. Few letters after my name than most of the members of the Board of Health.
09:35:00 I'm a little intimidated.
09:35:08 It's so. It's a one monthly meeting. Maybe.
09:35:10 I think 5 or 6Â h meeting a month, and probably at first.
09:35:13 You know, kind of prepping, for that is going to take a fair amount of time to get every speed on the issues, and then, you know, hopefully, I'll get in the groove of it.
09:35:25 But I think there's a lot of benefit in having, you know, a rural county represented on the board, and so feels like a good opportunity.
09:35:36 I think it's great. Yeah.
09:35:41 All right. Well, thank you, Heidi. You wanna look back last week.
09:35:44 Sure well as you all know, I was out last week grappling with my own Covid questions.
09:35:53 You know, it's interesting when when it hits you and your thinking about the last few years, you know, it was 3 years ago that we started this whole process, and it took that
long for me.
09:36:08 That's it. But you know, in the process you're like, Oh, my God!
09:36:13 It was so hot. It's like all the little questions.
09:36:15 It's like, how many days, how many this, how many that you know?
09:36:18 And it was just a lot of second-guessing myself, and I think, anyway, so I don't wanna talk about Covid all morning.
09:36:27 But it was my experience last week, but I did manage to work through the whole thing, and did a lot of kind of more felt like staff kind of work.
09:36:39 But we do have some really good candidates for the Wsu extension director position, and we are in the process with them.
09:36:47 We are reviewing the candidates right now, and kind of doing our individual ranking of them, and then compiling that.
09:36:54 So that's gonna happen this week, I believe. So super excited about that.
09:36:59 We have been doing a lot of work on strategic planning with our some of our staff, and Mark and myself and Wendy, and I spent a lot of time over the last 2 weeks compiling a
list of stakeholders for us to include an outreach around the strategic planning process and
09:37:17 I I compile a 100, and then I think of a 100 more right?
09:37:22 You know, categories of stakeholders so anyway, I think we have a good list now we've got about. I don't know.
09:37:30 350 folks on the list, and that was a bunch of work last week, and then.
09:37:38 I had a meet, a good meeting with transit with Nicole Gothea, and the new outreach.
09:37:46 They're outreach. Lead, Kelly Graves, who was from the city, now works at transit, and our tag rep about outreach because a lot of us are realizing that a most of the community
does not realize that transit is 0 fair at this point and all of us decided
09:38:05 we're going to do anecdotal survey. So we just ask everyone we know everyone we encounter, and no one knows.
09:38:11 And so we're like, how do we get the word out about that?
09:38:13 You know. And so we did a little bit of a good brainstorming process, and have some kind of low cost, but we think would be effective outreach strategies to get the word out
and get hopefully more people on the bus because it's free to ride the bus people and I
09:38:30 know I'm not supposed to stay free to ride the bus, but it is free to ride the bus.
09:38:38 So that was a good conversation was with you guys in the Dt.
09:38:45 Conversation getting a lot of input on the fairgrounds. The other meeting I had that I wanted to report back on was if we had a pith meeting on Friday, and it had been our first
meeting in like a year and a half and great conversation a long presentation from Cindy Brooks at the
09:39:07 Edc. Which then turned into a vote of the Pift Board to increase our support of the Edc.
09:39:14 And so oh, significantly, more than doubled our support of Edc.
09:39:20 For the next, for the next couple of years, and it just feels like, you know.
09:39:26 Hmm! Everyone on the pipboard saying, whatever I see send you, you know.
09:39:30 I mean, people are interacting with her all the time, and and she's doing a ton of work.
09:39:36 And really networking effectively. And it just feels like the last thing we wanted to do is spend half of our day worrying about how she's going to pay for pencils and erasers.
09:39:47 And more time actually out doing the work.
09:39:49 So excited about that. I think it was a little bit surprising to those of you in the room.
09:39:55 I was on zoom, but when when that idea came up, but I thought it was Aaron Burg.
09:39:59 He made the motion, and I seconded him, and it was a good.
09:40:03 I thought it was a good inspiration he had. He wasn't premeditated.
09:40:06 Mark, promise, promise, promise, yeah. I was gossiping when he said that.
09:40:13 Yeah. Yeah. But it was the right thing to do. 100 and 80 from where the port was, you know, a year ago.
09:40:18 So that that speaks strong but it was the right thing to do. 100 and 80 from where the port was, you know, a year ago.
09:40:22 So that speaks strong. But the audio discussion, Umhm, the recent designation, that's what gave birth to the 5 way agreement. Right?
09:40:28 Speaking of which you'll have a revised one on Monday's agenda on 6 March Yup.
09:40:31 So we're not doing a call this year. We're gonna hold off.
09:40:35 We don't. There's not a lot of bank capacity there. And so we're gonna wait until we have more of a nut to grant out.
09:40:46 And we had reports on the 2 projects that are on the books of the gateway project and the closing complete streets projects. And those are yeah.
09:40:56 Both of those will require amendments, the Sims Gateway and they wanna extend it into 2024, and quilting complete streets expired at the end of last year.
09:41:05 We need to extend it, you know. Hey, Greg, yeah, I have a contract from 2,013, I think on that that will be extended through the end of 2023, and the future meeting and then
the last thing is my usual report on forest work.
09:41:20 Of course, I worked much of the week on forest issues and the trust land Transfer Bill House Bill 1,460 is moving right along, which is awesome.
09:41:29 Cause. That's all the work I've been doing for the last 2 years.
09:41:32 So I'm like, got to make it out.
09:41:35 And did a presentation at the Democratic party on Thursday.
09:41:37 About all the work we've been doing on forest issues, and and then also working with Tammy Pacorny and Mark and Sarah Space from the Land Trust on closing out those Quimper
wildlife corridor those 2 parcels that we're going to take ownership
09:41:54 of closing out those lease parcels and turning them into county parcels.
09:42:00 So working through that process, too. So that was my last week.
09:42:06 Great. Well, let's see, I can look at last week quickly, so we can be done by 9 45 on Monday.
09:42:14 I actually had a Northward Canal chamber meeting on President's day, which was productive.
09:42:21 Getting ready. I'm doing that. I'm doing diving with the local this weekend with the Chamber of Commerce.
09:42:31 This weekend? Yeah, it's not just hiking.
09:42:38 We can't do this weekend with with the chamber, this weekend with with the championship.
09:42:40 We're down on Tuesday. We were all together, and then we went to Jefferson. Transit.
09:42:50 After that busy busy. We're just we're getting close, of course, to adding junior members to the Authority Board, which I'm really excited about.
09:43:01 It's been a long time coming, and I think most of the meeting was just hashing out on periods and commas, and that in that document Budget Committee, slightly more yeah, no,
there were some important things I know.
09:43:13 I know it it was a real. There was a lot of grist Seventh.
09:43:17 Even developer meeting. On Wednesday. We have a save the date for March thirty-first one p.
09:43:25 M. Signed up, all right, Rsvp. For the and the grand opening is seventh. So it's coming. It's really gonna be here, and the elevator is in, and the phones are got set up.
09:43:38 So things are moving through the biggest. Hang up right now is that many of the people there's a cumbersome process, since they're HUD vouchers to go through, and it's a housing
authority to vet people, and unfortunately a lot of the applicants that got passed through end up
09:43:55 being disqualified for income reasons, you know, just like make an 80 eighty- 80 bucks too much from this ancillary income source.
09:44:05 So that's been frustrating. But they're working through that.
09:44:08 I went to support one of our old fairgrounds and original Coswell Brown residents, campers at District Court on Wednesday, and while nothing really happened, there was really
interesting to just watch District Court for an hour, Wednesday, I think I'm gonna do that a little more often one of
09:44:28 the public defenders actually sent me some documents on court watching, and the positive kind of downstream and upstream effects of just being there, and, you know, understanding
the process a little more could you forward those to me?
09:44:43 I'd like to read those. Yeah, I sure, yeah, yeah, that one of them is a a video of it.
09:44:48 Fiona Apple, who is a devout, a court watcher.
09:44:52 So then, as we said, Housing Fund Board was canceled.
09:44:57 It would do lack of a quorum. The next day.
09:45:00 What we had an important Jeff Com meeting that we were.
09:45:04 I was not able to go to. It, got cancelled, and then rescheduled, but we had our executive session at 9, and then the workshop, with washed out, which will be on AV capture
here soon.
09:45:16 Then we had a special election from February we had signature check on Friday, and then the pre certification meeting, I should say, and then certified it.
09:45:27 On Friday 75, challenged signatures.
09:45:32 Well, 40 challenge signatures, but it was good agenda planning with Mark I met with Cliff O'brien from West Harbor homes, Pla.
09:45:43 About stormwater issue out in the little O Coves.
09:45:45 I was supposed to be on a panel for the a screening of the movie love in the time of Femin Dan and Quilson.
09:45:51 But the inclination weather of that day canceled that screening.
09:45:57 There was one at the Nest on Saturday, I believe, but I did not attend Friday.
09:46:04 You know, big thing was certifying the election. And yeah, well, in there.
09:46:12 And I see we're a minute past our 9. 45 start date.
09:46:15 So now let's return to the what we didn't get to last week, which is consideration of our significantly oversubscribed last call.
09:46:27 Arpa request, so I guess, Mark, you're going to drive the spreadsheet. Is that right?
09:46:33 Correct, and let's talk a little bit about process I was hoping that we would kind of just walk through it, and just as a reminder for the public, we took each of these 48 projects,
totaling a little over 3 million dollars for our $835,000 that we should
09:46:51 get sometime soon, and we ranked them, the lowest number being the highest rank.
09:46:59 The. And are you just sharing on the zoom screen?
09:47:08 Oh, gotcha! Oh, okay. Gotcha so you have to look at the shared stuff in the zoom.
09:47:16 Okay, good. So we have. We have not seen, and none of the Commissioners have seen the rankings.
09:47:24 We all ranked them blind from one to 48, one being the best so the lowest score on the spreadsheet will be the best project you know.
09:47:36 Many, many applicants had multiple projects, and I think there was some.
09:47:39 There's some variation like, I know, I took like one project.
09:47:42 I would score really high, and another one I would score really low from the same applicants for the same project, but just sort of as a funding.
09:47:49 These scores are not how we're going to decide on funding.
09:47:54 These are a tool to get us to putting dollars in, so I guess my suggestion would be as we move through this.
09:48:02 Let's not try to jigger with the rankings, even if we, you know, in our conversation we change.
09:48:08 Oh, I would give that one a 10 instead of a 5 cause I'll take forever.
09:48:13 So let's just try to walk through each one. Give each of the projects deliberation all 48, I think.
09:48:19 Just at least talking about why we score them to the way we did honors.
09:48:24 The work that they did would be my preference. And then, as we walk through, try to put dollar amounts in them, so we'll start at the best rank ones that presumably would have
funding and work our way down, not get too hung up on getting an exact dollar
09:48:40 dollar amount in each one until we make our way through the projects and then go back and resign the awards.
09:48:45 You wanna talk dollar amounts while we're going through.
09:48:49 We don't have to learn. Once we have the right.
09:48:52 Well, I just changing all the rankings, I think, is gonna be weird right?
09:48:58 Cause. It's like, Oh, we can adjust it, or, you know, like, let's say it comes up to this particular one.
09:49:06 We talk about it, and then we change the ranking. Is that's gonna have permutations throughout the rest of the list.
09:49:12 That might not be the permutations that we want. So I'm suggesting we don't change any of the rankings just walk through the rankings.
09:49:17 Give our subjective interpretations of the project and start put it in dollar amounts, but you you wanna talk about them all before we start allocating any dollars I don't mind
just walking through.
09:49:32 Them. I just don't wanna spend too much time. Come up with the range list and then talk about if we want to.
09:49:38 I don't know if you're going to be able to do that in terms of not trying to correct ours, but just create the aggregate ranking.
09:49:50 Yes, I I have the Consolidated ranking and the minute you tell me to share I'll share it.
09:49:57 Yeah. So we I just, I don't wanna get in like, Oh, Heidi changes her score of this one and then trying to track down right that.
09:50:11 So that's fine. Maybe a new column where we create our final rank. That's not necessarily an Admin.
09:50:11 Sc, the final it did take me a fair amount of time to rank these, as I mentioned before, that when you have text fields and number fields, you can't sort of all because it doesn't
know how to sort the Alpha automatic fields unless somebody's watching and then I
09:50:30 could tell, me. I don't know. So hmm, okay, is it text large enough to everyone to see the name of the project?
09:50:39 Yep, okay. So this is and when we created the spreadsheet staff, listed all the request on the left hand side.
09:50:49 Who's making the request? And then the next column is what the request is, for, you know.
09:50:55 A brief description of the and the amount they've requested.
09:50:58 Next to that is a amount of worded column, and as we enter amounts there, we'll get a total at the bottom that we can compare to what's available, which is about 835,000, and
then in blue the blue column is heidi's
09:51:12 scoring, and next is case. Then Gregs, and then I total the ranking.
09:51:17 The numbers that you gave each project in the total column, and then I went through and rank them so we can just change that ranking.
09:51:25 That's not gonna change any formulas. If we modify a rank in this conversation, that was result to me going through all 48, and finding the lowest score, and then putting so
we'll just adjust the ranking on our first pass through but we can't do that without having to go back and change every
09:51:44 subsequent one up to 48 right? So we'll just adjust the ranking on our first pass through. But if we can't do that without having to go back and change every subsequent one
up to 48, right? This is what I was talking about initially, yeah, this is why, I
09:51:54 was talking about initially. Yeah, this is why I was like, what does it matter?
09:51:57 It's just a tool that I was talking about initially. Yeah, this is why I was like, what does it matter?
09:51:58 It's just as is a tool to get us to do. Yeah, this is why I was like, what does it matter?
09:52:02 It's just as is a tool to give us.
09:52:04 And we just I mean, maybe if it do, you have it sorted by, you can't find each project according to rank.
09:52:07 I could find cause. I mean, I did look at this before today.
09:52:10 Hmm, okay. Cool.
09:52:15 Just that. We don't need that to be such a complicated process.
09:52:19 I mean, we we all ranked them. There's like 8 projects.
09:52:23 That total, $800,000. Let's look at those and talk about those we're going to start at the at the at the ones that we that ranked highest muck with the ranking.
09:52:36 We can just I mean, if we wanna change the ranking we can cause we might collectively come upon.
09:52:46 So let's walk through. It's the it's the narrative part of our process right now.
09:52:49 Hey, Greg, can we just start off to by saying that you know these are all worthwhile projects and that, you know it is no fun to have to like.
09:53:00 Make it look like there are, yeah, yeah, when it's you know, it's not that.
09:53:06 If I gave something a low well, a high number in this case, it's not because of the merits of the project.
09:53:13 It's just in comparison to other needs in the community.
09:53:17 And we have different criteria. You know, criteria, for, like we really said things that have gotten didn't have other funding.
09:53:22 Sources, there's a lot of criteria that go in all of these projects.
09:53:26 I hope they all get done. I mean they were all all positive.
09:53:33 I had to come up with my own process, which totally changed the projects, I would have anecdotally ranked higher, did not get ranked higher because of the process I made for
myself.
09:53:46 Okay. And the things that I ask myself to consider in ranking were leverage.
09:53:52 Need and capital. Because I just love the idea of building stuff.
09:53:59 So cause it. You know whether the test of time I was less compelled by programmatic requests.
09:54:09 But I was really most excited when projects had leverage like that.
09:54:14 They were leveraging other funding, or they we're gonna have a huge impact on the community.
09:54:18 The other thing is, as a number of the projects came in over a 100,000.
09:54:23 And I just wanna say out loud in the beginning, here is that I have a number of phone calls as well, saying, Can I apply for more than 100,000?
09:54:30 And I said, no. We said 20 to 100,000, so I hope we're not contemplating allocating more than $100,000 to anything.
09:54:44 But there were some applications for less than $20,000 that I thought will work. Consider!
09:54:51 Sounds like we're on the same page. Alright! Take us to number one.
09:55:00 That would be Y.M.C.A. Early learning center at 7 point.
09:55:06 All right. Hmm, I think we should just kind of talk, really, because I do want to honor all the all these applications.
09:55:16 So what we're what your thoughts about this, some of my priorities were about lasting capital investments and so, you know, investing some final dollars in this really important
project.
09:55:33 I feel good about huge need for licensed child care.
09:55:37 Of course, and so happy to support this one. Hmm!
09:55:41 And I in my, in my own grant prioritization process.
09:55:46 I created, I kids got a kids got a bump from me.
09:55:51 Anything that was gonna impacts the lives of kids in our community.
09:55:55 I just feel like there's so little for kids in our community.
09:56:00 And I know that families are really struggling, that I wanted to give kids whatever we could.
09:56:05 Yeah. And I thought this one was really strong, too. We, you know, Seventh haven has benefited, but the child care hasn't, and there was a real gap that that was created by
a you know, kind of a.
09:56:18 It's it's hard to find them, you know, in the size kind of made it difficult to challenging to to get the right amount.
09:56:24 So I thought this was a great project, too, and the Y.M.C.A. Has not been funded.
09:56:28 So I thought they were great. Yeah. One thing commissioners to consider is I think we've had 3 or 4 agreements with only Cap on this project.
09:56:40 I think a number of them said that any order for them to receive the funding that we provided previously they had to certify that the project was fully funded.
09:56:51 This is telling me that it was not fully funded. Is it tenant improvement?
09:56:56 This is, we had to split the child care out, because if we did this at the same time, it would have me pushed the whole project into okay, yeah. So this is a commercial prevailing
way.
09:57:16 Yeah, yeah, so this is a commercial, prevailing way. Yeah, yeah, so this is a commercial, prevailing wage does apply to this project.
09:57:20 And yeah, that eliminates that concern.
09:57:21 Yeah. Okay. Great. Well, we're not gonna put funds in right now.
09:57:24 We're gonna number 2. There's number 2, and that is Quilson Community Center.
09:57:29 Oh, and like, submitted by Commissioner. Brother, yeah.
09:57:34 The septic design, alright, we'll alternate. Hey? Do you wanna go first on this?
09:57:43 I'll go first on this one, since it was my project.
09:57:44 Thanks, for you know supporting it. I thought it.
09:57:48 I think it's really important, and I wouldn't it's gonna cost more than $100,000.
09:57:52 I would really take less for this project just to get the design, you know, $50,000 would get the design for both the septic and the, and the kitchen kind of the remodel of
that building.
09:58:04 After the food bank leaves. So that's what I would.
09:58:10 But we need to kind of follow through cause. There's plans will get stale.
09:58:14 So I mean a capital. The capital support pretty quickly. After that.
09:58:19 Any other thoughts. I mean this tick to my box of capital.
09:58:26 And also I was thinking about. Geographic diversity in terms of projects, and by the time I got to this one I'd already prioritize things.
09:58:35 How about things higher in South County? So I was like, what do I do?
09:58:39 And so, you know. But still it came up in my top third.
09:58:43 And yeah, it's anytime anytime in the kitchen is in the title of anything.
09:58:48 I'm all in cause good, important. So hmm! And septic is important.
09:58:54 So, yeah, I did it. I get it. Say, ditto to all that.
09:58:58 Okay. Okay. Number 3.
09:59:04 Oh, excuse me! In some cases there were ties.
09:59:10 Okay. And so I'm trying tied with the score of 20 was the digital equity navigator.
09:59:15 By the library, district, world Library district. I would just say about this that you know, we started this program as of the Bocc with the library, and there's nothing I'm
more excited about in my community than the library, and I fully support continuing this program.
09:59:36 I know it's been effective. I go there and I see rooms full of people with our navigator learning things.
09:59:41 And I just feel like this is exactly the kind of thing that we should be continuing with this funding, because it is still arpa funding.
09:59:50 Hmm! Yeah, I'm happy to support it. And I'm also glad to see that the that the work we learned about it.
09:59:58 In Ldc. Last week. You know, the digital equity is a a big priority.
10:00:06 In the next round of State and Federal funding, as well like along with the action team plan that there's funding to create this whole new digital equity plan that's gonna be
required, or at least ranked really high for additional funding in the future so you know, hopefully, we'll be able
10:00:24 to get. Keep this going, and then it will be there will be another home for funding for it.
10:00:29 With the new state and Federal programs. Yeah, I think this is great I love the way that they.
10:00:34 This is the whole county project everywhere from Port Town isn't down to Brennan.
10:00:40 I've seen Jamie and Velocene and Brennan, and all over the place.
10:00:43 So yeah, I'd fully fully fund this one. Okay, since there are 2 tunes, there is no.
10:00:48 3, so we'll go to number 4. Let's choose right here, and that's the port towns and pump track or 2 for the on track.
10:00:56 But you were ranked plans of permitting quite well the second one.
10:01:02 Didn't fare quite as well.
10:01:08 I could jump in and just say, You know again, this is long term capital improvements.
10:01:14 County, owned land, benefits, youth, and people with all of yeah, it's a important project.
10:01:23 Happy to support it.
10:01:27 Ditto. I mean, I've said so much about this project.
10:01:29 I don't feel like I need to repeat myself.
10:01:31 I think that it's something. It's something new in the community.
10:01:35 It's for it's I mean, it's not just for kids, but the kids are, gonna be out there and it's on county on land.
10:01:43 It's an improvement to the fairgrounds which it's also a not a loud improvement to the fairground.
10:01:49 S, yeah, you guys said it all fully agree. And I also really appreciate the methodical process that they're going through they're talking to stakeholders building up local support.
10:02:00 It's, you know. I talked to people talk about the skate park next, and I looked at the model, the successful model of the jump playground, and I see this is, you know, I think
they even name check that in their letter.
10:02:07 But I see this as a real good example of community planning, building support, and doing it the right way.
10:02:15 So I'd fully from that.
10:02:22 Okay. Okay. Number 5. Jefferson and her Faith Action Coalition Winter Welcoming Center for 2020,000.
10:02:32 Hmm! I mean, this is the no brainer to me. Let's I.
10:02:37 Yeah, you're number one. Yeah, I mean, I just you know my number one.
10:02:42 My, if I had to say I my number one project. It's not this.
10:02:47 But when I thought about it, and for the amount, and for the impact, and for the kind of keep him people at, you know.
10:02:58 When when it's the hardest. This is the solution when it's the hardest for folks.
10:03:02 Then this is something that we have to have in our community.
10:03:06 It's not. It's not a nice tab.
10:03:08 It's not a need to have it. And they missed other funding opportunities this year.
10:03:12 Often they are included in 9 1 48, 1 49, and behavioral health dollars, and did not this year.
10:03:18 But I I agree with everything you said. You know a big part of our job.
10:03:22 Yeah, setting, what is the floor of our social fabric? And I think.
10:03:29 I didn't rank it as high, but I think it's super important and happy to support it.
10:03:39 There's number 6 right there.
10:03:45 Yeah, northwest School. A wooden boat building, 100,000 so when I said this, would that would not have been my number one project.
10:03:54 Well, you know I mean I am a boat school nut, and this I ranked.
10:03:58 This the lowest of 3 of us. But it's it's an awesome opportunity for the both school and this they just need.
10:04:06 I mean they're doing a great job of raising money for everything they're doing.
10:04:10 But they just need, you know, a bump here.
10:04:12 So yeah, glad to see this ring as high as it did.
10:04:18 I had some public sector concerned like, you know, how much does this benefit?
10:04:23 You know, but.
10:04:27 Housing is something that we know, and housing for school it still reduces pressure on the housing.
10:04:34 I probably wouldn't find this one fully, but I was contracting.
10:04:38 Each other would be important, also contributed to our phase, one to our boundary, yeah, I had some of those same concerns and I think we brought them up with Vets when she
was here talking about this a month ago or so that you know is there any way to ensure that these don't revert
10:04:55 to markets, rate housing, you know. It's a great location for Airbnb, or, you know, potential revenue source for the boat school.
10:05:05 And so I you know, I think at a relatively small contribution to a big project, it's gonna be hard to put in some of those guardrails, but I think it's worth talking to, Betsy
about if there's some way we can ensure that this will remain affordable or
10:05:20 you know, guarantee that a certain number of them are used for students, and, you know, just have some oversight.
10:05:26 Or put a time limit on it. Frequently tax breaks for affordable housing, set timeframe where they have to be below market, so we can have a discussion about that.
10:05:39 Thank you.
10:05:41 Alright number 70, cool seeing scores again. This is where I was all in for Quil, and that's why, when I got lower down the list, I was yeah.
10:05:54 I mean, maybe the secret I need to divulge here is that I used to own a skate shop in town.
10:06:01 Yeah, there was a moment in time. Yeah, with my friends, my 2 friends, yeah, with my friends, my 2 friends, anyway. But you know, it's just like it's that thing, though it's
like.
10:06:19 This is good outdoor exercise, and in South County I was.
10:06:25 I was super excited about to see this. I'm really excited about it, too, you know.
10:06:29 I mentioned it, and talking about the pump track it just they're in first base.
10:06:34 So I think some sort of A. C. Grant to build organizational capacity, they so they can start doing this.
10:06:39 I am excited about it, but they haven't talked to Parks and Rec. They don't have a location.
10:06:44 They don't have a design. I mean, they're there.
10:06:45 They're just setting out. And I think that supporting them and getting them on their feet would would be could leverage a lot of success.
10:06:55 I obviously didn't ring it as high, and I guess I have some of those same concerns, I think, and 100,000 is a lot.
10:07:06 Yeah, I, am. I think it's, you know, just in comparison to projects that we could get across the finish line with $100,000 versus hoping to get something off the ground.
10:07:18 Yeah, so that's why I didn't rank it as high.
10:07:21 I I think, having opportunities for youth, and especially use that might not feel as likely to engage in organized school activities super important, but but I'm a little concerned
at the opportunity cost of this one.
10:07:36 Yeah, share those fears, and do you have a sense that there could be a a but a minimum amount would still be helpful.
10:07:47 I do, because I think they're just. I mean, I had contact with them as they were coming up with this idea.
10:07:52 Really came out of this opportunity, and saying, Well, what do people want down in quilts?
10:08:01 And there was lot of excitement for it. But I told them, you know this is a 5 year plan, you know, and I referenced the jump playground model within, like you need to just get
started.
10:08:11 So I think a smaller award, in my opinion, would be great to get them started.
10:08:16 Whether they keep their fiscal sponsorship with accountants of oil scene, it still allows them to build a website, get some fundraising going and building that capacity.
10:08:27 So I think before I am.
10:08:32 Yeah. You know, I was. I wasn't start trying to micro manage people's budget. So I was like, Okay, if they said they need a 100, I'm you know, I can prioritize that.
10:08:44 But I'm happy to have a conversation with them, and here where they're really at, I mean, they just start.
10:08:54 No people who have built Skate Park. I think it's good, but I love the letters of support from all the kids at the quilting school, you know, but they're not gonna be contributing
money to the project, you know.
10:09:07 So it's there's a lot of support from adults and folks that don't state, to that see it as a real opportunity where there's not a lot of not a lot of activities.
10:09:16 Down in the south end that they go to easily. So I think I just wonder how like what would be a useful amount of money to try to get it off the ground.
10:09:28 While not giving up the opportunity to fund other things that are right, and I'd say 20,000 is like, that's organization organization building.
10:09:38 I don't know. I would ask them, it would say 100.
10:09:44 Hmm! They don't have. Their budget is just build the skate park, then.
10:09:52 Well, I mean if they could probably get a amount for how much it would be.
10:09:57 We don't even have a I mean, they've got an idea that it should be on the community center.
10:10:00 But we don't have parks and rat buy in.
10:10:03 I mean, they just haven't done that. There was first step to see if it's even a practical.
10:10:09 But I think you know fully funding this one would mean that projects that we know will get across the finish line.
10:10:15 It says.
10:10:19 Yeah, we're not, are, we? Are we? No, no, we're just are we articulating new?
10:10:24 Announce right now, I don't think we are okay.
10:10:26 So when we say community crucially community center, if we were to enter into a grant agreement, what would the entity be that I mean for Quilson was the fiscal sponsor for
this?
10:10:38 The who Ca me? And for Quilson. No nonprofit down there.
10:10:41 Okay. Thank you.
10:10:43 Acronym.
10:10:55 This is fun, because I can't see. Well, it happens.
10:11:01 Hey? This is Olympic Neighbors. Adult family home program for 24.
10:11:09 Hmm!
10:11:13 Well, Heidi, this is your number 2. You want to start.
10:11:16 I just love their program. Yeah, for sure, I mean. And there's no other program really, in our community that meets this population.
10:11:25 And I know that they do heavy lifting all the time, and I'll I mean, and I know they're working on a second home.
10:11:36 So for all those reasons. Yeah, I think it's a small amount to serve a need.
10:11:42 That is otherwise not met in the community, and they've been extremely successful as a kind of grassroots organization.
10:11:53 And so I think it's a small investment. I'm happy to make.
10:11:57 Yeah, I'm I scored them quite a bit lower.
10:12:00 Mostly just because there are other local funding mechanisms.
10:12:04 You know Idvab, is it? You know I mean so.
10:12:07 But wanna support the second house. Great program. Happy to be happy that it's here.
10:12:12 Don't have a problem with it. So, and it's a small ask.
10:12:15 And I really didn't wait them based on the amount of the ask. I just did.
10:12:18 The other criteria. So happy. That's there!
10:12:21 No problem.
10:12:24 Let's go on to 9. Okay, we have 2, 8.
10:12:27 So there's No. 9. The Humane Society, heavy duty truck to toe veterinary surgical trailer and associated Costs.
10:12:37 I'm surprised I'm the lowest score on this one, I mean, there's no bigger dog not.
10:12:43 I'm sorry, cats, but yeah, there's no bigger dog.
10:12:48 Not in this community love our pets, I mean how much joy they bring our anyway!
10:12:54 So, and it's capital. I mean. This was that's how I was.
10:13:00 Ranking things, but this didn't show up high on my list. Kate.
10:13:03 It showed up on your list. Yeah, yeah, I think the it's this is an organization we haven't funded much recently.
10:13:13 I mean, we have. So we have an agreement with them.
10:13:17 It is, you know, serving South County, I think, is great.
10:13:22 I was a little. I had a little sticker shock about the Foster.
10:13:25 The throat like. Is that really? Is that what press costs? And does it have to be a brand new truck and yeah, trucks are expensive.
10:13:34 Okay, but I love that. It's providing a service to the whole county, and notably South County for free.
10:13:40 And I just think we need more of that. I agree with everything.
10:13:46 Kate said, Yeah, haven't been able to support them in the past.
10:13:48 This seems like a good ask. I probably wouldn't fund it toy, but you know, maybe buy the truck.
10:13:54 But yeah, great new opportunity and love that it provides services throughout the camp.
10:14:02 Number 2.
10:14:08 Jefferson healthcare 100,000 to help them pay for that commercial kitchen.
10:14:14 Magic, kitchen word for me, I will say I had an event yesterday at the fairgrounds, and then the oven blew up in somebody's face, as she was lighting the pilot light.
10:14:30 It looked like first degree, but it was luckily there was a medical provider at the event.
10:14:36 But yeah, it was just a good reminder that it's a bit of a liability.
10:14:40 If you have outdated equipment. So yeah, I think this projects, you know, again, investing capital in county-owned property has a ton of benefit.
10:14:54 I think we could consider a lower amount for this one as well.
10:14:58 That helps get another one across the finish line. But.
10:15:03 So commissioners at some point, you want to start plugging numbers in to see where we are.
10:15:08 Dollar wise gonna go. We're gonna go through them all, and then we'll it'll be fast to go through the dollars after we just make sure they're all in the right place.
10:15:15 I'm writing down what I would do anything to add.
10:15:21 Heidi. No, I mean it's for all the reasons.
10:15:25 Capital kitchen, county on property, hospitals, a good partner, all the reasons, benefits the whole public.
10:15:34 Yeah, I've cooked in that kitchen probably a dozen times it could use an upgrade.
10:15:43 Trust me, because you don't cook enough. I cook all the time this one.
10:15:51 I just don't think that this on these funds would leverage it.
10:15:54 They're doing it, anyways, it's already scheduled.
10:15:56 I think it would not change the budget or the bottom line at all.
10:16:01 I guess I see this as an impactless contribution.
10:16:05 Though I support the project, I think it's a great great to develop the infrastructure at the fairgrounds, but it's like already going to happen.
10:16:13 So what's and we? And we have supported $300,000 to a Jefferson health care.
10:16:17 Ask me all the vaccine money, so I mean, they've gotten a lot of our fund cares dollars for projects that we care about for sure.
10:16:25 But I just see this is there's a lot of different funding opportunities for this, and a lot of these other projects don't have any of the funding.
10:16:35 I don't know. I feel like they are really in a vulnerable position, coming out of Covid.
10:16:43 Rural hospitals struggle enormously regardless, coming out of Covid in a financially precarious place leveraging themselves a great deal by with a new building, and if we can
show a good-faith effort that we want to invest with them and into the fairgrounds I put in maybe funding at
10:16:59 50, I think there's a lot of benefit in just showing our partnership in the facility and and helping to offset some of their costs while they're investing so much in the community.
10:17:10 Yeah, I don't have a.
10:17:16 I'm not gonna argue with this. The ranking where it is.
10:17:19 So, yeah, so I'm happy with that. Let's move on.
10:17:23 Okay. Second number 10. This is from Paul works. So shine, road embankment, stabilization and.
10:17:31 I did tell them that 100 is 100,000 over there.
10:17:36 The upper limit of what we're offering I'll go first on this.
10:17:39 When I ranked it very high. I just think that it's you know they have 3, probably works, but in 3 requests this is the only one that really supported, because it supports the
community community project.
10:17:52 Address those same issues, like this is a confluence.
10:17:57 What do you mean by community project? The shine community?
10:18:00 Ask for their own fixes to the same road. This one was public works.
10:18:07 What they would actually do. Responds to community concerns, and I drove it the other day, and there they are.
10:18:16 You know, that road does not have much more in there, so the I would not go to this shine the community of shine to design an engineering project for public works.
10:18:26 So this is public works. I feel, being responsive and what they can do, and it prioritizes it sort of again.
10:18:33 Outside of that, you know the tip and all all that stuff.
10:18:37 So I thought this was a good confluence of public sector, and.
10:18:43 I didn't rank it very high. I'm concerned that even $200,000 seems like not enough to be able to get much work done.
10:18:56 Yeah, so, even more, so, like, how what are you gonna be able to do for that much? It is.
10:19:03 I mean, the problem is like chronic and probably catastrophic.
10:19:07 At some point, and so it just feels like a very small amount of money to to solve a huge problem.
10:19:15 I feel uncertain how that would happen. But I mean obviously I'm not gonna argue with these rankings.
10:19:22 It's a worthwhile project. It's just.
10:19:24 My concern was that it was Yup, not enough money to actually make lasting benefit.
10:19:32 It adjusts the calendar as much as it.
10:19:37 Response to community input. And there are, what's good you advocate for your districts.
10:19:45 Good. All right. 12.
10:19:54 Habitat for humanity. Mason Street project 100,000.
10:20:00 I mean I can speak to this. I ranked at 12, and it came on 12, so.
10:20:09 You know, this is a huge project, has huge leverage in our community for workforce housing leveraging our sewer project, leverage leverage, leverage and habitat is bending over
backwards to grow as an organization, and this is part of the planning work that they need to do for this project and
10:20:29 so I just really wanted to the All-in as I am with this project, I think it is an incredibly important project.
10:20:38 I'll say my I mean huge supporters of this project it just we gave them $500,000 from Harper already.
10:20:43 I gave it. How many 1 million did we get to Cassel Brown?
10:20:48 Oh, well, I I didn't score that project well, either.
10:20:56 I know, but it feels like I mean it still feels like it's 500,000 was not an inordinate amount of awesome also say that habitat doesn't have a lot of the funding opportunities
locally with the population that they serve so there's very few ways that we can support
10:21:07 workforce housing. So I scored this higher, and I don't. I'm not arguing with the ranking at all.
10:21:12 I think really important work, and it does. You know, that the synthesis synergy with the sewer is really important as well.
10:21:19 So I support this project.
10:21:23 I mean cause. I thought of that too. It was like we given more than that to a lot of stuff.
10:21:29 Gate, anything, Dad? No, I, you know, didn't square it very high, just mostly for the because we previously given them some much like you said, but totally support it, and desperately
want to see it succeed.
10:21:40 So you know, this competing interests that we're in a business of computing interests.
10:21:45 Yeah, Olympic housing trash. Dundee Hill development, concrete work and carpentry.
10:21:54 Sure. And I you know something we haven't talked about is where there's potential conflict of interest.
10:22:00 So I'm still a service on the Board as an advisory member, and you know this is an organization we haven't funded, and they have done a lot of work to get their feed under them
and our getting really close on this project and they've got some design they've
10:22:19 got. They have the land. So I think this could really be instrumental in helping them get to the next phase put into that Housing trust fund for funding for this.
10:22:29 They're working hard. It's a young nonsense, but really focused on workforce.
10:22:35 Howing, again more challenging Ami to get funded.
10:22:41 So I ranked it pretty high. I didn't know much about this project, which is why.
10:22:49 Yeah, and I'm really excited about it.
10:22:51 Wanna support a young organization, you know, getting their first project under them.
10:22:57 And I think I probably would do a partial funding, and they were gracious in their letter.
10:23:04 Okay.
10:23:05 And I have loved it. It's going into the foundation, you know.
10:23:09 We pretty ninth grade.
10:23:14 Okay. Yep, alright. We have a third 120, wow!
10:23:19 This is in reaction to their king. Tied vision leverage, community, wide impact.
10:23:38 Hey? I mean it just checked all the boxes for me.
10:23:42 This is. A this is just, you know. Would you support full funding?
10:23:48 We're getting down, and we won't have full funding.
10:23:49 But well, Commissioners, we've given the port a total.
10:23:54 If 150 for their hydraulic lift up to this point.
10:24:00 Yeah, kind of I, just a huge opportunity for us to put a stake in the ground about climate change and sea level rise and support a proven partner who can do big capital projects
and and Aaron's got a vision for this one and I yeah, I'm all in on this one.
10:24:16 Kate scored a pretty low. Yeah, I guess just the scale of the project it feels like this would be a bit of a drop in the bucket, and I feel like there are other funding sources,
and the port has a lot of ability to raise funds as demonstrated through their Idd and as well as commercial
10:24:35 enterprise. So just, you know, huge fan of the port and I think they're doing great things.
10:24:41 But I feel like they have the opportunity to get other funds for this.
10:24:45 More than a lot of the other projects we're ranking.
10:24:48 I agree with both of you. Sorry sort of sort of in the middle, you know.
10:24:53 I think I can see tossing a token of support to it just to indicate that we are supportive of the project.
10:24:59 But 20 or a 100. Neither of it is gonna be, you know.
10:25:04 5%, 5%. Maybe. I mean, it's going to be a massive project. So?
10:25:10 Okay, where it is? Alright. 3, 12 means we jumped number 15, which is Peninsula trails trail, head and viewpoint in the area of Self Discovery Bay.
10:25:23 They gave a range of 20 to 50.
10:25:32 The low score. In this case you wanna advocate oh, funny! That's funny!
10:25:36 I felt like it was still pretty high for me. But yeah, I mean love. The trail.
10:25:40 I mean. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Yes. Okay. Yeah. You know. What I've learned in the process of learning about funding trails.
10:25:52 Is that the most effective thing you can do is is create 2 points, and then you're motivated to build the trail in between them.
10:25:59 So I think there's a lot of value in getting that anchor in the bottom of Discovery Bay.
10:26:05 Of course, loved Hal Bates. So it's I'm a little biased and that love that they are doing a lot of fundraising to bring money to it.
10:26:12 Public works is in support of the project so long as they don't have to pay to maintain it.
10:26:18 Any assets, for non-motorized transportation.
10:26:23 I'm gonna support. So all those reasons I ranked it.
10:26:29 I mean like that. They just came to the process of ranking but a lot of his numbers don't have as much, you know.
10:26:40 Oh, I've got to put it. There's something's got to be number 20.
10:26:45 Yeah, yeah. I agree with everything you said. It's always painful from here downright. And I really, I thank you for the comment on the you know, building those nodes.
10:26:54 Encourage the is. The infill is great. I didn't thought of that.
10:26:58 Okay, okay, so, number 16, Jefferson, community Foundation, Jefferson, county scholarship summit.
10:27:10 I ranked it really high, and I would just say I ranked it really high, not because it was the community foundation, but because it gets it kids, and it gets it.
10:27:18 Kids at a vulnerable, vulnerable point in their development, in their lives, and I felt like this was visionary in terms of our kids in our community, and, you know, pledging
them.
10:27:31 So I just felt strongly about this one, obviously much more strong.
10:27:35 And you are still on the board. Yeah. Uhhuh.
10:27:46 I think my low score represents just the like not wanting to fund.
10:27:51 One offs not seeing as much lasting benefits, and that was a priority for me.
10:27:59 But yeah, course. Super important. Such a great partner. Really. Great work.
10:28:05 That was my!
10:28:07 Yeah, and I.
10:28:10 Agree with all of you. I'm not sure it's felt like it did identify a gap.
10:28:15 I know there is a lot of scholarship.
10:28:19 Giving, those more distributed, distributed does sound like an equitable fix?
10:28:25 But yeah, it it didn't appeal to me for the lack of kind of capital investment or long term man.
10:28:55 Very campus into a school playground, and communities sports field hopefully this this leverages Mason Street, and it leverages the sewer. It leverage.
10:29:09 I mean, it's just another high leverage. Get it, kids if we don't get the full funding, then we won't do it until we get the full funding.
10:29:17 Hmm, yeah, it's just that you know. That's it's an intersection of so many issues that we're working on right now.
10:29:24 I also felt like I I'm was trying to give nods to projects that are underway, you know, or that are that are happening in the community.
10:29:37 Versus, okay, wanna make sure they're being okay.
10:29:52 I don't think I need to explain why I'm so supportive of this, but cause I talked about these metrics in earlier projects.
10:30:01 Okay, yeah, where are they? They got the information they needed to hear me say that I support kids. I mean, I support kids.
10:30:15 I mean, I support kids, too. I didn't like the $600,000 ask.
10:30:15 I have to say I, when I read it, it read like, Oh, we'll contribute to the the land something that really benefits the school district, and we won't build it until we get $600,000
so it seemed like it was the opposite of leverage to me okay, and you know.
10:30:25 I was in my, you know, upper range of priorities, but of course you know concerned about the price tag inability to meet it.
10:30:34 But I just I really want. I'm worried about chemicals school district, you know.
10:30:43 I was glad to hear their their enrollment has stabilized this year, which is great, but you know I know that they're they've got a lot of big struggles with both their built
plants and number of things so would love to be able to support. That i'm not sure this is the right.
10:30:58 Place.
10:31:04 18 Port Townsend, Marine Trades Association, maintaining office space for 5 years.
10:31:11 This this is surprising for me, cause I this was a project that came in through me, and and I, if I was anecdotally sitting in my slippers on a Saturday ranking project.
10:31:24 This would have been my number 2 after the report, but I made myself have a criteria and this is where this came out.
10:31:32 I know that this would leverage an organisation that's going through a big succession a change of leadership right now.
10:31:40 And they actually need the support to whether that transition. So I mean, I I would love it if we could fund this, because I mean, if I if you, if we get to the end of the semester
we all say we get one project that we I mean this, I feel like this, has to be funded but this is
10:32:00 25. I know I know it. I tried to give myself.
10:32:09 Read the same day Janet Yellen saying, local communities need to put Arpa dollars into business development.
10:32:16 And this seemed like a great opportunity to kind of build their capacity.
10:32:23 I don't know anything bad, just you know I just kind of same with Heidi that I, you know, was generally trying to fund the not found operations for a limited amount of time.
10:32:36 It's a existential crisis for nonprofits.
10:32:41 They need stable opting funds, but I just feel like these funds are better spent in capital investments.
10:32:48 Hmm!
10:32:51 19 was up this way.
10:32:59 I'll search and rescue. Hey? Jefferson County search and rescue a new vehicle.
10:33:04 I'll start on this one. I give them the best score, like the Humane Society as well.
10:33:11 Like that one of these topics that we don't get to support a lot. Now, most of their work is probably in my desk and out, but I like that, and I'll volunteer our organization.
10:33:23 That really supports the ability for people to use outdoors.
10:33:29 And I wouldn't fully fully funded that, you know. Helping by, I think, would be a good support for an organization that doesn't have.
10:33:41 Yeah, I, on the other end of the spectrum it didn't rank him really high.
10:33:48 You know, there's I just feel like there's a lot of players in this space, including East Jefferson, that just passed 2 levies.
10:33:56 And the you know that sheriff got that crazy all terrain vehicle for this purpose, too.
10:34:01 So I just feel like there's some a lot of investment in this sector, and I know I agree so great that this volunteer organization operates.
10:34:14 But I feel like this is something that should be. This service should be offered by our many public sector partners that are well funded or at least funded to do that work and
provide that kind of capital.
10:34:26 So I'd rather spend it elsewhere.
10:34:33 Morning we have a 1045 continuation of the hearing, so if we'll we'll do what we can to get there.
10:34:42 But we will, on our timestamp agenda.
10:34:46 Alright. Number 20. The community build Caswell Brown, indoor bathroom and laundry facility.
10:34:53 And that 100,000 covers two-thirds of the cost.
10:34:59 I was the lowest on this one, too. We're all about the same place, and it worthwhile project cause I mean community build itself hasn't got any arpa dollars.
10:35:10 It could get $20,000 from the Housing Fund Board.
10:35:10 Other funding opportunities to do this. It's critical critical work, but they have gotten a lot of support as you said, hiding zone.
10:35:18 That's why it's scored as lower as they're good for now.
10:35:20 Yeah, me, too, that I guess I you know we know that that trying to provide more infrastructure and frankly, dignity for our UN sheltered it's it just it's hard to keep throwing
money at it.
10:35:38 And we know that's gonna be the reality. But it's I think we also have to spread it around some other places, too, like in helping to avoid people becoming UN sheltered alright.
10:35:52 Okay, we have a second 20 and that's East Jefferson fire and rescue for profane generator per pay. Tank water tanks, eat pumps, and Heidi was this yeah, because this wasn't
East Jefferson fire and rescue as it's been pointed out to
10:36:07 me, a number of times in the last week. Applying for this grant.
10:36:10 It was the Mariston Island Foundation, Yup and East Jefferson wasn't aware of this part of funding which they were concerned about, even though we did press releases and talked
about it.
10:36:24 At how many Commissioner meetings. So, but this is this is the Marathon Island Foundation.
10:36:31 Maristol Island Fire Department has traditionally been volunteer run, and they community supports the fire department out there.
10:36:43 So this is why I mean there was no one I didn't see any other requests from Marathon Island on our list.
10:36:52 I did not know so well. Yeah, they did. This project did not resonate with you, Kate.
10:36:59 Yeah, I mean, mostly just because thinking it was East Jefferson, Paris infrastructure.
10:37:07 There, right? Yeah. No, it's a different situation.
10:37:11 I'm yeah. I'm not sure how to resolve that.
10:37:18 You know, like this is broken into a couple of things.
10:37:21 It was fortyk for the generator. There's another similar one that I would support, you know, down for another community.
10:37:25 One of our kind of remote communities. So we'll just, you know, make a note and come back.
10:37:30 And we agreed. We're not gonna change the ranking, but it does sound like your ring, was informed by.
10:37:37 Maybe for the criteria. This information nobody's fault but.
10:37:44 Okay, okay, number 22, we have 2, 20. So 22 is the next one.
10:37:50 Adc. Team. Jefferson, yeah. Jeeze, that's interesting.
10:37:55 Given the fifth meeting we had recently. Yeah, there's other funding for Edc.
10:38:02 I just, I really thought that the succession planning project resonated with me, and that seemed like a gap that would be good like, not a not a just operation, but a specific
thing that I know a lot of businesses are yeah contending with right? Now.
10:38:16 So it just I it resonated with me, but you know there are other funding opportunities for this, and I guess I didn't know that we'd already increased that funding we didn't
know that we'd already increased funding with that one other thing to the 5 way agreement and has a expiration date of december 31 20
10:38:40 27, which will allow Edc. To pursue philanthropic grants which they currently can't apply for.
10:38:46 No, Cindy is very hopeful that that will be a fruitful avenue can speak highly enough of the work.
10:38:49 And he's doing. Yeah. And I think I didn't square it super high, because, like knowing how much they need stabilization, one time funding is not what they need.
10:39:02 And so I you know. I think Pip is a much better.
10:39:07 Yeah, option. Cause it is, you know, can be renewed.
10:39:13 All right. Number 23 pounds in Marine Science Center installation of a grade whale skeleton. I guess you guys didn't like this one as much as I knew. It was so cool.
10:39:23 I was wondering if it came with naming like I forget the name Whale Greg.
10:39:33 Did wanna name the win, I mean. Come on this.
10:39:39 This is right at my alley, but I I was.
10:39:42 I made my little. My own criteria was trying to do a grant making process.
10:39:47 And it's this ranked where it did on my list. Fair enough. Yeah.
10:39:50 And I mean I was torn because one of my internal criteria was also that we support a diversity of sectors, and so, like marine science arts.
10:39:59 You know those things that typically we haven't funded.
10:40:04 I wanted to be open to, but ultimately I guess I wasn't I just say it was art and science, and just building up there for ages.
10:40:14 Yeah, great. And I play sneaking love the place, making concept behind it.
10:40:19 So fair enough, though I'm not. I wouldn't argue with the ranking necessarily. Okay.
10:40:25 So we're looking for 24 yeah, it's public works.
10:40:29 Brody drive Sr. 19. Pedestrian and bicycle improvement project.
10:40:34 Kate, our multimodal advocate, would you like to speak as you were the Hi?
10:40:39 It's just this feeling like it was so long ago.
10:40:43 Oh, okay, yeah. So this is still, to become schools in the grains, right?
10:40:49 Yeah, I mean, I'm just deeply invested.
10:40:52 I've been working on that area for long before I got elected.
10:40:55 Even so, yeah, I mean, I think we just have to continue to to invest in, especially, you know, by capable communities in those areas where you hit so many benefits.
10:41:13 So school, Rick HD. Carol, and residential, and like it's a total sweet spot for us to invest in, and a lot a lot of grant writing has been done, and you know it is leveraging
a lot of other funding as something else would leverage that let me and it
10:41:30 just there are other funding, other things, other dollars that can be used to leverage those Grant dollars.
10:41:35 Yeah, I mean, we know public works does an enormous amount with the road fund dollars that they have to match.
10:41:43 Yeah, competitive grant, sources. But there's always a limit to how much there is.
10:41:49 So!
10:41:52 Well, now that I actually am more fully understand what this project is, I'm most excited about it at public works, and I'm wondering if we can just give public works a bucket
of funding.
10:42:06 And say, you know, that's what they're looking for is county funding to leverage grant sources.
10:42:12 Probably in in these 3 projects. So you know, I mean, I trust our team over there implicitly, and let's give them $200,000 and say, use this as Grant match for projects, anyway.
10:42:27 So, and not talking about this project, although I do now know that this is the bridge across Germany would have made it right up my list, cause we're gonna need.
10:42:36 I'm gonna need that because I ride my bike all over down.
10:42:37 Okay, so.
10:42:40 Hmm, but I'm okay. Yup, I'm supportive of the project for sure.
10:42:46 It's just there's.
10:42:50 Given the number of applications that don't have other funding sources.
10:42:54 This one. We can prioritize us, as we said internally.
10:42:59 Most expedient, timeline possible.
10:43:03 Alright! I think we have time for one more before 1045.
10:43:07 Alright, and that would be number 25. Jefferson County farmers, market food assistance, matching culinary education.
10:43:15 Food service permits, kitchen, etc., deviated from a criteria.
10:43:19 On this I did. Yep, although in terms of kind of keeping going, or they talk to about revitalizing a longstanding, very successful program.
10:43:31 You know, farmers Market has generated a lot of donations from the community, from foundations to to match and double their food assistance programs.
10:43:42 Is the well-established program that Kovat really knocked back.
10:43:47 So I think this has the ability to help farm a lot of its dollars to farmers.
10:43:52 So hey, this, this felt more like like true, the hope for our for dollars, just to mitigate some of the impacts.
10:44:02 And this touches on a number of businesses that can stand to benefit from it.
10:44:06 Billing. Argument. Hi, same argument I use in the last one, I mean.
10:44:11 I love this, but I was trying to and within my mind fund enduring capital kind of requests.
10:44:22 I agree. Alright. Well, we're, you know, more than halfway through.
10:44:29 It is productive. I do still want to before we start talking, funding.
10:44:32 When we come back to this, give not give short trip to any of the projects, but keep walking through them.
10:44:40 Great. Yeah, we'll recess for 1Â min. Yeah. Break. Yeah, we'll recess for let's say 2Â min, and we'll.
10:47:28 All right. Great. Thank you, everyone, for your patience. I'll bring us back into session for our continued deliberations and potential action regarding the ordinance relating
to courthouse security been a few modifications made to the draft ordinance that we saw last week.
10:47:49 Mister Hansack, we're having some issues with Zoom or we can't see everyone. I'm wondering if you're with us.
10:47:57 If you could raise your hand. Great, we'll bring you over.
10:48:02 If there's anyone else from Staff here for the meeting, we can't see you as an attendee unless you click, raise hand, and then we we can bring you over and attendees.
10:48:15 You see, clear team people. Okay, yeah, we don't have to do that.
10:48:18 We don't. We only say I'm seeing everyone.
10:48:21 I don't. I don't either. So I'm with. I'm with the weirdos over here, weird over the building.
10:48:30 Can you hear me? Okay.
10:48:32 Yes, thank you.
10:48:37 And to be on the way to our team. Okay? Great.
10:48:40 So I don't know Mark or Philip. Do you want to talk to us just as a reminder for everyone?
10:48:46 We closed oral testimony, but we did accept written testimony, and we've had a few more written testimonies I don't know if people you guys get a chance to review those 5 more.
10:48:58 So Philip, do you want to talk about the changes made, or we've had a few more written testimonies? I don't know if people you guys get a chance to review those capture the
comments and changes that I believe that the Commission wanted made to the proposed
10:49:16 ordinance, realizing that some of the conversation last week was difficult to encapsulate in language, and probably not appropriate to put into an ordinance some of what we
talked about, and some of what we'll talk about today might more properly be included in a policy or a
10:49:37 procedure, and so so we do have a revised ordinance.
10:49:42 I I can pull it up. But before doing that, Phillip, did you want to add to my comments at all?
10:49:47 Sure. So I add a couple of definitions to make it clearer.
10:49:56 We have. There's a definition of armed forces that stole that from the Marshall shooting facility overnight.
10:50:02 And there's a definition of law enforcement officer which I also still, from the commercial shooting facility ordinance so just tightens it up a little bit, and it's consistent
with what we already have in common.
10:50:14 And then I just wanted to point out.
10:50:19 Goes down.
10:50:19 The definition of sheriff. We talked a little bit about this last week.
10:50:22 It includes their designee. One of the things that was discussed last week was, do we wanna try to make it possible for for us to hire or to use security guards?
10:50:40 And you know, if there's some issue with, you know sheriff's office not having enough capacity or emergency, or whatever.
10:50:50 And so the definition of sheriff includes their designee, and the difficulty with adding something real, specific about security guards is you'd have to go through the contracting
process to hire them, and and unless you wanna delegate contracting to the sheriff's
10:51:11 office for that. It's really difficult to draft something.
10:51:19 Or as someone qualified to to do, the screening, you'd still have to have some sort of a backup contract.
10:51:27 That's the difficulties. So you know, putting all that in this agreement didn't make sense to me.
10:51:34 I think there's already flexibility enough, and you could get a contract through pretty quickly if you had to.
10:51:41 If there was an emergency, so that was a thinking for not making the changes.
10:51:46 And then bye we took. We took a stab at at adding the exceptions for caring weapons in the facility in Section 3.
10:51:59 That's you know. That's kind of right out of the discussion.
10:52:05 And and what you know, what Mark put together out of the discussion.
10:52:09 Only difference was changing. I think you have the all the old version of maybe mark cause it has armed forces versus personnel, and the one that was posted in the AR.
10:52:23 Well, this one has on duty military.
10:52:27 Right. But there's and that was posted on Friday.
10:52:30 It has armed forces, personnel instead of military.
10:52:34 We define that? No, you're exactly right. Yeah, let me. I'll stop sharing, and I'll find I'll find that one.
10:53:04 So just to clarify is the one posted on the edge with the agenda.
10:53:13 It is.
10:53:11 Is that the most current one that we're gonna be considering, or additional.
10:53:22 Mark, you want me to put it up. I I have it up on my screen.
10:53:26 Screen while you're finding them word version. I can put it up.
10:53:30 Yeah, go ahead, Philip. I think you sent me. Pdf.
10:53:38 Okay.
10:53:44 We can thank you.
10:53:41 Oh, can you guys see it on my screen? Okay? And you're looking at section 3, okay?
10:53:48 Yes.
10:53:50 Great, so, so this is you know what I what I wasn't there for all the discussion on Friday.
10:53:58 So. But I understand this is what was discussed.
10:54:02 The only difference is that I modified on duty military to armed forces personnel, so that we have a, you know, clearer definition of it.
10:54:12 That's consistent with the definition county code.
10:54:16 And then.
10:54:22 The other changes. We just added valid to these exceptions.
10:54:29 Just to emphasize that you know, we're talk.
10:54:34 They have to have a valid picture. Id. And then I think finally, we just added a section saying that the ordinance shall be codified, and we pick chapter 8.
10:54:46 8, 100 of the Jefferson County code. That's the next in order.
10:54:52 That would be left for codifying this. Everything else.
10:54:57 I think I've talked about everything now.
10:55:02 The judicial lawyers have to show bar is that still there?
10:55:08 Can you remind me?
10:55:09 So so, judges, here's I'm highlighting now.
10:55:12 The you know what would be required for judges, they would be issued a a county id picture, id.
10:55:20 So they would be essentially treat it as employees, even though commissioners would not be, or pro-tem judges, or visiting judges, would not be if they, if they had a a valid
county issued picture.
10:55:37 Id they they could come through, I think, typically, and at least in these days we're doing visiting judges by zoom, I've had.
10:55:49 I don't know. I've had a few hearings that where we've had visiting Judge, and we've done about every one of them.
10:55:57 By zoom, so I don't.
10:55:59 Oh, sorry!
10:55:57 That's right. I was asking about G. But see it did it still there, valid bar card!
10:56:02 It's good. Other questions for Philip or Mark is, do we get through?
10:56:09 All of the were there. Those were all the changes, weren't they?
10:56:10 Yes.
10:56:15 Couple questions. I'm wondering. Let's see, please throw the section 3.
10:56:22 The one and 2. I believe that's the who can bring firearms in.
10:56:35 I'm there should be up.
10:56:32 Mark, are you driving? Okay? Yep. Oh, sorry. I'm going between zoom and AV.
10:56:42 And my own copy. So a question that came up in these considerations was the retired or, I guess that maybe that's the best term.
10:56:59 But yeah, former law enforcement. Like, I'm curious what how much we want to.
10:57:09 They wouldn't fall into this. I don't think that former law enforcement would have to go through screen.
10:57:14 Well, we have the definition now.
10:57:18 Of law enforcement officer.
10:57:22 They're they're commissioned.
10:57:24 Yes.
10:57:25 So it's as long as their commission is current. Is that would that be the defining feature?
10:57:35 To either have a commission, or you don't have a commission.
10:57:39 Okay.
10:57:40 I mean I that's my thought on that. I don't know, but Philip thinks.
10:57:46 How does that interact visa? The retirement?
10:57:52 You have a commission. After you retire.
10:57:55 No!
10:57:57 Okay, so that's handled there and sorry.
10:58:03 Could we just scroll back down to? We're looking at F.
10:58:07 Ng. And the screening exceptions. Yeah, I am.
10:58:16 I don't want to get into deliberation too much.
10:58:19 Well, I guess we're not taking we're not opening the hearing again.
10:58:21 So you know I do pink her with some of the public comment we've gotten about not having too many exceptions.
10:58:32 I'm curious with G. If there's any way to limit that to attorneys who are here on county business or court business, or like we do what we call on duty, law enforcement.
10:58:50 But if folks are coming in for other purposes, is there a reason to to not screen them?
10:58:58 Well, it just adds a level of complexity. You know there are dockets published by at least by the Superior Court, but I think people are coming sometimes to the to the courtroom
with uncontested matters, at least in superior court and you wouldn't be able to show I mean I don't
10:59:23 know how you would show, you know, at the Court House coming through that you were here on an uncontested or on some uncontested matter, that you were presenting, or that you
were going to to get something certified, or get something signed ex parte as people go to the
10:59:43 lawyers go to the clerk's office to, and to file things.
10:59:49 So, you know, I I just think it would add a level of complexity that would be difficult to get right.
10:59:56 Yeah, I guess that would be my. My bias would be to try to firm up the kind of both off duty law enforcement and F ng, just in terms of you know, not having so quite so many
people be carte blanche without without being what's the
11:00:19 word screens. So I'm not. The one I would agree with is the off-duty law enforcement officers.
11:00:27 That's just kinda skip ahead of the line if they don't have any work here, I think to Fill's point, you know, there's lots of lawyers that come in on business for their clients
to go to the clerk's office with no thing.
11:00:40 They need to do should they go through the screening? If they're going to pay their tabs?
11:00:44 Yes, they should, would some, I bet, some would, and some would probably circumvent it. But I know, Joe, can you speak again to the rationale for having off-duty law enforcement
officers who are still commissioned able to skip the screening and bring the weapons into the courthouse?
11:01:03 Well, I guess it really comes down, I think, to screening, because if they go through the screen with that gun on, that's gonna set it off.
11:01:12 But you know, I think, and I thought about this a little more since last time, and being, you know, a small community, you know, people know most a lot of people know who the
law enforcement officers are, whether they're on duty or off duty when closed or in uniform and you
11:01:30 know. So you know, I guess I would I don't have a problem with an off-duty law Enforcement officer bringing me got into the courthouse when they're off duty.
11:01:44 It adds a level of if you wanna say protection of another body in there in case something goes wrong.
11:01:52 But again it's you know, it's up to what you all think is past.
11:02:08 I think so. Sometimes. Off-duty law enforcement officers are coming in to testify.
11:01:58 My, you know it just it increases our the number of law enforcement personnel that could take action of something happened well, in that.
11:02:15 Okay.
11:02:16 But then they're under.
11:02:16 And I would say, if they're coming in to testify they're on duty.
11:02:20 At that they would be on at that time.
11:02:23 The other thing I would ask is, if if a Court House employee came in to get their tabs, they have to go and make it today to show their badge, or what they have to go through
the screen.
11:02:33 Hey? They would just show their badge. Is it?
11:02:35 So to me, I mean, I guess. Why wouldn't it off duty?
11:02:39 Hey? They still have to leave their gun in the car, though.
11:02:42 No, they could crack duties, I mean, they're not.
11:02:45 Cause they would go. They wouldn't go. It wouldn't go through. Yeah.
11:02:49 They wouldn't go through the screening if they just showed their bad.
11:02:46 They can't. A county employee or a duty law enforcement.
11:02:55 If the county employee was coming in to pay pay their tabs, they could circumvent.
11:03:00 I mean, they might have a key if they work in a courthouse they could just come in past the screen right?
11:03:06 So that's almost impossible to enforce. But an off-duty law Enforcement officer, as it's written good skip screening and bring their weapon in, and I guess I I don't see a lot
of merit to that.
11:03:22 Well, you're making it hard on the detectives who sometimes have, you know, if they have to come, cause they're typically not coming in uniform right?
11:03:31 But they could be on duty out of uniform.
11:03:34 I mean, if you look at it, see, the way it's written is in uniform.
11:03:41 Just sitting here imagining all the anomalies right?
11:03:45 Not wanting to articulate them, because I will create a cluster for us.
11:03:51 So see says on duty law enforcement officers who are in uniform, or who present a valid department, issued the Id.
11:03:59 Oh, you're right, it's an or you're right.
11:04:02 Yes, yeah. I thought that took care of that, and we could either show an Id card or where they're counting that. You know they're coming.
11:04:13 Id like everyone else. I don't. I thought that was covered good in that numbers.
11:04:21 Sorry.
11:04:18 That needs another parentheses right?
11:04:23 It says it. How's it? Typo? Maybe? Oh, just an in parentheses.
11:04:27 There's no just eliminate the parentheses at the end of C, yeah.
11:04:37 Yes.
11:04:38 Yeah.
11:04:42 Well, I'm the one that asked, you know, if we're gonna let you know on duty, military or off-duty law enforcement skip screening, and they potentially have weapons that we added
to 3 above.
11:04:55 But I would be happy to remove off to the law enforcement officers, both from 3 above the as the exception to you can bring in fire weapons, and from here.
11:05:10 In the courthouse. Well, the Commission is their commission is for 24Â h a day, 7 days a week like this, and I'm not the best person to describe this.
11:05:18 But having talked to some of our folks here that you know the the duty to serve that comes with the commission is 24, over 7, and so that convinced me that the ability to carry
in the courthouse was fine, but I don't think that I don't I don't see a reason for
11:05:32 it not screening for off duty, go through the screening, but they could bring away.
11:05:38 Yeah. And I'm curious if that presents a security challenge, your screening for webinar safety.
11:05:45 Yeah, they could present, they might have a pocket knife.
11:05:50 So you take that and let them walk in with their pistol.
11:05:52 I think you let them walk in with anything that just don't get to walk around the screen.
11:05:55 Okay, it's not sure what purpose that serves.
11:06:01 Well, I don't have a huge problem with it, either.
11:06:02 I mean.
11:06:05 Yeah, I like the idea of them. Not I like them.
11:06:10 My idea of them having to be screened, because how do we?
11:06:16 So our guys out there know every single off through the law Enforcement officer well, they would have to demonstrate.
11:06:23 They have a mission, so I don't know.
11:06:25 For what it's worth. I've been to places before other courthouse is where I've had to go through with my gun on, and they still had me go through the screen as a detective.
11:06:38 Yeah.
11:06:39 Yeah, I mean, as it's written, it's any State law enforcement, and we don't know all of them I would rather not have that big loophole.
11:06:47 Yeah, I would rather have them screened, have them screen, but allow them to take the webinar.
11:06:53 Okay. So just we're talking about just removing F.
11:06:56 Has the exceptions to screening, but leave it, leaving it in as they can bring them.
11:07:02 But it doesn't mean they get to walk around.
11:07:06 Any issues with that. Phil.
11:07:10 Policy choice, no problem with that at all.
11:07:13 So up comes out F comes out!
11:07:19 And I know we've heard both both sides of the argument about licensed attorneys.
11:07:23 I mean one thing that was compelling to me, too, is, you know, the hundreds of folks that are already being screened every day, and the practice I think we're all on the same
page that staff with 3 entrances would be impressive, and that the you know support from our other departments
11:07:48 within the courthouse speaks a lot to the reason they have the screening word as some of the testimony that you know put it back up on the second floor again.
11:07:57 I think continuing, okay, is a consensus supported path.
11:08:04 Yup, so I have a a random question.
11:08:09 Maybe this is me thinking about anomalies, but I've noticed in my 2 years in the courthouse in this role that sometimes people who are here for trials are in the bathroom.
11:08:26 When other members of the public are, or other people are in the bathroom.
11:08:30 I just wondering what the I don't. I've never asked this question so sorry.
11:08:34 I'm doing it here in public, but I but I am.
11:08:37 Maybe Joe knows the answer. What are the practices or policies around people who are?
11:08:44 Inmates moving around in the courthouse. I mean they do.
11:08:51 They have to be at that it appears that they have to be accompanied by a deputy but I'm just wondering if there are things that have been discussed in the past about other people
being in the bathroom, or do we make sure that people are out of
11:09:05 the I just don't. Do, you guys know, have you been here longer?
11:09:11 I mean, it's I would love to hear the actual answer from Joe.
11:09:09 Normally, any. Yeah, any inmate or anyone in custody would be escorted to the bathroom, and I know in past my past experience, normally the bathroom.
11:09:23 Okay.
11:09:22 Someone will go in there first and make sure it's clear, so that there wouldn't be other. You know.
11:09:27 Sit in there.
11:09:30 Okay. Okay. I think that's consistent with the elevator as well.
11:09:35 Right.
11:09:36 Right normally the elevator. You wait till there's no one else in it but the.
11:09:42 And maybe it was just because I was coming out of the bathroom. I you know I was.
11:09:47 It was just something that like snagged me, and I wanted to ask someone.
11:09:50 I had the chance, and this felt like the chance, cause. It feels like courthouse security.
11:09:54 If that rule wasn't in place I would want it to be because somebody can be in the bathroom to pass something off to the inmate, you know, or whatever I've too many episodes
of Warren's new black or whatever.
11:10:10 Yeah, but yeah.
11:10:08 Right, and that is, that is something that's looked at.
11:10:12 And there's not gonna be any inmate, or, you know, suspect, or whatever defendant in custody, that isn't gonna be escorted by a correction.
11:10:21 Officer, so it wouldn't be security doing that. It would be an actual corrections officer that brought them to the courthouse.
11:10:28 Thanks. And that wasn't just in case to other staffers.
11:10:32 And that wasn't in response to specifically well, it's something I noticed.
11:10:36 But I just didn't wanted to know the answer to that, for that.
11:10:38 Thank you, Sarah Nolan.
11:10:40 You're welcome.
11:10:41 One question. This is probably for Mark, and maybe you addressed this mark in your opening comments, but the kind of operational input we received from the current deputies
for doing screening.
11:10:55 Do you feel like their concerns are addressed here and or in the more can policy documents we might create.
11:11:02 I believe the comments that I made that incorporate concerns that I don't believe belong in an ordinance will definitely need to be attended to or addressed.
11:11:16 Subsequent to this. In a courthouse security, procedure, or policy.
11:11:22 Okay. Thank you. And there's no perfect amount of hardening.
11:11:27 It's gonna make everyone safe. So it's like what is practical and practice and and what's true and fair and equitable.
11:11:34 So I think this is well, not perfect. It is, is a good piece of a good ordinance.
11:11:50 Okay.
11:11:42 Hey? Comment! And just to let you know I did do some research on knife, blade, length, and stuff, and they're in Washington State.
11:11:54 Hmm!
11:11:53 There is no size limit, but that's usually dealt with by a local ordinance.
11:12:00 That would say, you know no life larger than 3. It just could be brought in.
11:12:06 But I'm almost positive in the past there has been links that a personal carrier.
11:12:13 But right now no way.
11:12:21 Okay.
11:12:25 Well, how are we doing? We do. We feel comfortable with this, with the one change we made, reducing, removing F.
11:12:34 Under the exceptions. Yeah.
11:12:38 Feel good about it.
11:12:43 There's no public comment for this we had. We had the hearing last week.
11:12:47 We kept written testimony open, and we did get your written testimony.
11:12:51 But there is not written more oral testimony on this topic.
11:12:54 I'm sorry. Thank you very much.
11:12:57 Oh, 5, s, biggest spring fan after Michelle, maybe 5.
11:13:05 That's great. Did receive your your testimony. Written testimony.
11:13:13 And no, that I share your sadness about the front doors of the courthouse.
11:13:17 That be visible. It's my risky business illusion, you know. It goes and opens the door each time.
11:13:29 People who paid those stores.
11:13:39 Yeah. Me, too yeah. Long term discussion for sure.
11:13:45 We'll come up with we're bringing policies and procedures back for things that aren't contained by the ordinance.
11:13:51 There'll be an opportunity then. Okay, thank you. Alright.
11:13:57 Thank you. Have fun at the concert. Enjoy, enjoy! Say, Hi!
11:14:01 To the boss I'll make a motion to approve an ordinance relating to Court House security, repealing and replacing resolution.
11:14:07 Number 78, 99. Happy to second that.
11:14:11 Okay, it's been moved. And I guess I should probably close the hearing.
11:14:17 Is this, because the continuation of the here so I'll close the the hearing on this issue.
11:14:21 Ask if there's any further questions or comments, and hearing none call the question all in favor of approving the ordinance as amended today, indicate by saying, Hi, Hi!
11:14:33 All right that passes. Thank you very much, Mark and and and Philip, for all the work.
11:14:38 Yeah.
11:14:38 Up up. I'll put together a clean version and send it over to Carolyn and Mark shortly.
11:14:46 Welcome!
11:14:43 Great. Thank you very much. Okay. Well.
11:14:47 Yep, thank you. Everyone.
11:14:49 Thanks. Sheriff. Okay. Shall we return to our previous conversation?
11:14:55 Until the lunch break. If we can now we get to cry. Yeah, now I know we did the all the we love, all the projects equally so.
11:15:06 Maybe we'll try and go through them quickly. We're on 26.
11:15:14 We'll try to go through as quickly as we can.
11:15:17 Yes, well, I I put this one up high, and I would still advocate for funding.
11:15:22 This is another one that they have 3 different line items on their on on their application.
11:15:37 Okay. And like, I said, it's I haven't been reading it from oh, right that's the I am on 4 screens right now.
11:15:47 Thank you. Just get on one.
11:15:49 Well, I like being able to look at the agenda items.
11:15:53 Maybe. Okay. We are on emergency prop, and I obviously like this one much better this is the Oil Peninsula, you know.
11:16:02 They manage their own community center, which they pay for with, I believe, a Mpd.
11:16:09 I think small. Npd, there's one road going in and one road coming out, and they take care of each other when disasters come, and I think you know, supporting like the new heated
well, well, Pump House would be, as I think, fortyk or something and this again they get almost no
11:16:27 support from many of the other organizations. No dollars have gone down there specifically from Arpa.
11:16:34 So I'd really support partially funding this one.
11:16:38 Yeah, and then checks and definitely checks my capital box another one of my boxes was emergency response.
11:16:46 Check that for remote area in our county. So yeah, you know, feel like I rank this relatively high for what it you know where it ended.
11:16:57 I know we're not gonna do a good job of doing this faster.
11:16:59 If we come in on all of them. Obviously, I scored it relatively low.
11:17:05 I know that area well, and having lived adjacent to it, I you know it's certainly a worthwhile investment, but I think that they're.
11:17:16 I think we need to get good about getting fema funds for this kind of thing, and that it's a, you know, choosing to live out there.
11:17:24 It's that the emergency management, yo-yo principle.
11:17:28 You're on your own, and it just hard if we tried to provide this level of service to everyone in the county, it would be extremely expensive and better funded by Fema.
11:17:36 I think so. I just worry. We set up a little bit of a expectation that we provide infrastructure for emergency management when we don't have a a source for it.
11:17:46 Currently. Fair enough. Okay. Okay. Next, 1, 27, number 27.
11:17:52 The nest and that use workforce development project. Wow, hmm!
11:17:59 I scored it so high because this is something that I feel like.
11:18:05 We have not certainly haven't funded this organization previously.
11:18:09 This is, you know, an effort that the community has made a big investment in recently, and it's outrageously successful.
11:18:16 I live half a block from this, and seeing youth, and especially youth, at risk hanging out there all the time, is just super valuable.
11:18:25 Also, we haven't funded a lot of workforce development stuff so as excited by that.
11:18:31 Agree with everything you said, and well, not. We're good fun.
11:18:37 Yeah, we find it with 1 48, 1 49, right?
11:18:42 And L. 3, 60. We were, but I think the criteria we set was for urban cares but I get the other funding sources.
11:18:53 But yes, but it doesn't need it. I mean, it's already open and incredibly successful, as you say.
11:18:59 What is it? Leverage? Just a new programming that they don't have the workforce development program set up and some that was part of the original owl.
11:19:09 3 60 funding was to develop workforce I mean, that is part of their core.
11:19:15 All 3, 60, Pifer House. It's expanded.
11:19:18 Yeah, I don't think it's a program they don't have a curriculum.
11:19:21 I mean, they have a place where a couple of teenagers can work, and but they don't have a curriculum yet that they're working from formally.
11:19:29 So this would leverage. We workforce development for more market.
11:19:34 I get it. I got it all. It was just my funny.
11:19:43 Okay, okay. 28. We have 2, 28.
11:19:45 So this one is again, the community center computer system and Internet.
11:19:51 That's a pretty large pricing for computer system.
11:19:53 And Internet. What do you know, Greg, not a lot of local support for this one compared to this skate park and everything.
11:20:03 And this one is really to update the Internet and create gaming computers for folks.
11:20:10 And I I think that it's there's better ways to spend $45,000 than to get 4 kids on gaming computers.
11:20:20 Yeah, that's more, I think, more information than I had.
11:20:23 But just again, kind of the work we're doing to invest in the digital equity navigator.
11:20:28 It sounded like a promising investment. I mean, there are computers down there, and there's robust publicly available.
11:20:35 Wi-fi newer computers would be good, you know.
11:20:39 I mean they're they're 10 years old, but you know $3,000 would do a lot to update the computer.
11:20:48 So I think well, one thought would be, we retire.
11:20:52 Our computers after 4 years. Right? It could be that next batch of retired computers we could absolutely love that Yup.
11:21:00 Sorry, Pete, instead of giving him the maritime center we're giving him somewhere else.
11:21:06 We have a lot.
11:21:11 Okay, I think we have another 28, maybe 2 more.
11:21:17 Lost the ability to control.
11:21:22 Yeah, we got the hour glass of death.
11:21:30 Patient.
11:21:39 Hey! I'm gonna have to thank you. We'll take a brief pause while we we're gonna you.
11:21:45 I'm gonna have to stop, share and then do with test manager and start it over again.
11:21:53 Sorry. Like, there was 3 number 28 tomorrow. Okay?
11:22:03 And some tech issues here, rebooting the spreadsheet.
11:22:24 How about those other 2? Sure, yeah. So we'll seeing sorry the aquatic scholarships.
11:22:42 What was the viper house? One for? Sorry Carolyn?
11:22:44 520.
11:22:48 Well, what was the for Piper House?
11:22:56 See about. We've funded them. They wouldn't be there without.
11:23:01 And they showed it in there.
11:23:04 Last Grandpa, I still seem to be a little stunt about that.
11:23:09 They are, they are actually sustainable. They have a sustainable financial model, and they collect enough rent, pay their staff.
11:23:19 It's good.
11:23:23 And there are other funding sources. Okay? Oh!
11:23:33 Bye for house right there.
11:23:37 It works 28 down, 5 or pf, yeah.
11:23:47 I didn't realize until today these right now, Mark put him in alphabetical.
11:23:54 So mighty like. This, or I don't know.
11:23:58 Hey? You wanna say anything anymore. Okay, yeah, it's interesting.
11:24:03 Okay, yeah. For the kids. Let me see.
11:24:11 Bye, you have my note here, just like that is relatively small amounts, and you know, again, I've target population that is generally underserved, that avoiding being unhoused
is really critical.
11:24:29 At this the young Adult Age group.
11:24:33 I rated it high, understandable, good, I mean excellent work.
11:24:38 They're doing there for sure. Okay? All right. The other 28 is the swim scholarships.
11:24:45 Yeah. Jefferson County aquatic coalition.
11:24:53 I rated this one higher, I guess, cause I you know, for the kids, and I just like giving kids that don't have opportunity for swim lessons.
11:25:01 Swim lessons. Just seems like a like a win win for me.
11:25:03 I know it didn't hit any capital, you know. Capital needs or anything, but it seemed like kind of like for you. And last one, a fairly modernest request that has immediate and
tangible the short term. Certainly all worthwhile. Just it landed in the middle of the pack. For me yeah.
11:25:29 Okay on the what is it? 31. Yeah. So American Legion heating improvement plan.
11:25:41 I ranked them 2 American Legion months relatively high, just because that like wasn't that much money?
11:25:47 And there, you know, capital improvements, and a lot of people use those buildings that building.
11:25:57 I ranked it lower. I there's a little concern that you know we are likely to not be able to keep a shelter there for much longer.
11:26:08 Given the rents that they're wanting to charge, and so to, in fact, that it doesn't have a benefit to the shelter.
11:26:16 But again, you know that one is middle of the pack for me.
11:26:21 Just didn't rank super high, but certainly love to see them supported and glad to see the work that's going into revitalizing it right now.
11:26:29 But in the midst of some difficult negotiations, yeah. And they did vote to raise the rent again.
11:26:36 $750 per month. I think they are bad actors with public.
11:26:42 And we put $400,000 into that building for the benefit of of the most at need, including veterans.
11:26:50 And I, yeah, I think that decisions they're making right now.
11:26:54 Show. Badge. Okay.
11:27:02 2.
11:27:08 Need to get somebody else to transportation lab.
11:27:17 Hmm, hmm. Transportation lab conference moving in the right direction for 8,000.
11:27:24 I mean I rank this really low. I mean I this would be like a no brainer in my mind.
11:27:29 But it didn't mean any of my self-inflicted grant criteria.
11:27:33 So!
11:27:35 Yeah, same with me. I mean, I'd love to see if there's a way we could support this.
11:27:50 You know, and also small grants are difficult to administer.
11:27:54 Yeah, I think, yeah, worthy would love to support. I'm here is probably not the right place.
11:28:00 I agree with you guys.
11:28:11 And number 33 supplies, equipment, event, space, rental, event.
11:28:14 Coordinator, staffing and Marketing.
11:28:20 Okay, yeah, you wanna yeah, important community partner, we have not given them funding previously through these processes.
11:28:35 We're talking about you know. They are trying to establish a new footprint at the fairgrounds, and they have a space that they're leasing there.
11:28:44 They would like to invest more at the fairgrounds. So I just think it's a worthwhile to support an organization that serves a population that's generally underserved. And they
have a great track record. I mean, just decades of doing good work in this community so small amounts seem valuable.
11:29:04 Yeah, I, you know, I it kind of looks like operations, you know, it just I wasn't sure of the impact.
11:29:12 There's other local funding sources, great work with 80 really important work that it just kind of.
11:29:20 As a result.
11:29:24 Okay? So they they side housing and services Director of support services.
11:29:34 Yeah, I think we're just it's gonna be the same thing from here on out like super important, hard to get funding for.
11:29:45 Ongoing staffing. But yeah, yeah, great where they support them, getting a direct support of services.
11:29:56 I'm sure it's critical, but there's lot of opportunities for funding locally, not enough.
11:30:01 But a lot. So yeah, I just this is not the right pot of money for me.
11:30:07 Okay, we just did gathering place 35, maybe.
11:30:20 Hmm. So Jefferson county Tourism. Coordinating Council Gateway.
11:30:26 Welcome center upgrades. Yeah. And I squared this one high because it's I I think I might have seen this plan a long time ago.
11:30:32 And curious, you know, dovetails with our conversation with solid ways last week, and I think the conversation needs to happen with this, and and we should, you know, I would
say, probably I wouldn't support funding this.
11:30:43 But this should be added into the hopper, as we go into our capital planning, and really figure out what is our goal, be rebelling as 19 and one on 104.
11:30:54 Excuse me, and this is also tied to the Tcc.
11:30:57 Taking over the gateway Visitor Center and.
11:31:03 Yes, I I've had some. Some hesitation about it, and I just feel like complicated.
11:31:14 This this specific proposal because it's hi to that.
11:31:21 Bid a word right. And I you know I'm you're right here.
11:31:28 I'm gonna say this out loud. You know I am the Commissioner on the Tcc.
11:31:33 Right now, and I obviously support tourism in our community. But you know I'm not sure what the bright recipe is for the gateway visitor Center and I'm not sure we could got
a plan they get to the right recipe right now, right so I think that's the politic way.
11:31:52 Of saying that I'm I have more questions than answers on this front.
11:31:55 Yeah, sounds like a workshop topic. Hey? Yen, part of our our capital planning process.
11:32:02 I think we do need to think a lot about that intersection, and where it fits in with the number of plans, so especially now that there's going to be a roundabout there, you
know, and that needs to be factored into this.
11:32:12 Yeah, and we talked about I can't remember if we were able to do that I don't think we have yet, but you know, really designating kind of that corridor, for you know, figuring
out what kind of uses we want there long term for both for visitors and county facilities and you know.
11:32:31 potential residential, or who knows? But there's much bigger questions to answer before we start making other investments. There.
11:32:40 Okay. If that might be the one we're most aligned on.
11:32:44 We're all in the same space. Okay? Number 36, Jefferson County environmental health improve community resiliency and salmon habitat and Brennan I rank this one really high cause.
11:33:02 It has 2 of my favorite words in it, salmon and habitat.
11:33:05 So you know I mean, this is the only request for Arpa fans we've seen from environmental public health for this for this, for this, for this line of work, and within public
health.
11:33:21 And it's not a huge ask, and it'll be it will be leveraged.
11:33:27 So, anyway, all those things. That's why I ranked it so high, so high.
11:33:32 I feel like there's a lot of other funding sources for this work, and we have had a robust program along these lines.
11:33:42 Including a Grant implication that just went in for this work.
11:33:44 I can't remember if this was match for it. Yup, Yup, it's it's gonna be a tough conversation, you know.
11:33:52 This is related to the hooking up to the go swell up, sewer, and I you know it's I agree it's important, but I see it's interesting of all the sectors we work in.
11:34:04 I see more money coming in for projects like this than I do for lot of other things.
11:34:07 So again, opportunity cost. I agree with Kate on this one important project.
11:34:13 Other funding opportunities is a county priority already. Whether we give them this money or not, the projects will move forward. It doesn't affect it.
11:34:25 Alright number 37. North wind art, education program, support.
11:34:30 And I looked at this, and I did see capital improvements, and building up the makers, spaces, at the forward, and I think is really critical.
11:34:38 So I probably supported this higher, and I wouldn't fully fund it, but I would have supported, you know that I think it was 33 K.
11:34:46 To like, do the upgrade on the buildings, and I thought that was, you know the arts are hard to fund globally, and this would be an opportunity that builds up one of our really
important.
11:35:01 Hestone organizations there at the fort. Yeah, it was a tough one for me, cause again, I wanted to fund across a number of sectors, but I just couldn't get it to rank high enough
in comparison that middle.
11:35:17 And obviously I couldn't get it to rank anywhere for me.
11:35:21 Which, and this is a beloved organization for me, and have watched the struggles of artists in our community for decades.
11:35:28 And you know I have a lot to say about this one, but I don't wanna say on online, okay, number 38.
11:35:37 Again, quilting community center digital sign improvements for 35,000.
11:35:43 Why would this one down quilting from me now?
11:35:45 Mostly this, it seems. I mean there's always energy for new signage.
11:35:51 We've got that old sign there. I think Bill lost my support.
11:35:55 This one also didn't have a huge amount of community support when the other 2, the commercial kitchen and the skate park, were easy to get signatures, for so you can see where
the community was supportive.
11:36:03 And I think we did a good job of prioritizing those with with the community.
11:36:08 Okay, for me. They couldn't. The applicants couldn't decide whether I want to get rid of the sign and put it in a new sign.
11:36:16 So they want their take and have it too. We want to leave that sign and put in a new digital sign.
11:36:19 And I it just it's sounds like it's not a fully flushed idea.
11:36:23 Okay. And there's there's other ways to that.
11:36:26 We can find money if we wanna replace that sign, put a full digital sign up which I think would be a more logical project.
11:36:31 Than adding a digital sign to that sign.
11:36:39 Okay.
11:36:42 So!
11:36:50 And we've talked about the pump track. I think this just of the 2 projects that we have from them was the less appealing one for these funds. Right?
11:37:00 It's definitely.
11:37:02 Right there, Mark. Sorry this one. So I'll score the other one higher.
11:37:08 So we another yeah, alignment just in working on the plans. And the permitting is more appealing to us.
11:37:17 Okay, I'm back to the American region. 40 thanks for your paint materials and equipment.
11:37:29 Same same as last time. Yep, me, too. No, I just like it's a great space.
11:37:37 I love going to a hips there and fixing their spaces up.
11:37:40 Yep. Not making big? Asks?
11:37:45 At 41. Hmm!
11:37:54 You just passed it.
11:37:58 Start. Society. Okay. Jefferson county Historical Society, cemetery, panel discussion, clicking oral histories and writing biographies.
11:38:08 And I gave this a higher score, I guess, just because it dovetails with work we've already done out there.
11:38:13 So I really did think it was like a logical next step or work on, you know, counting property on to figure out this history.
11:38:21 But there are other ways that this can be. And yeah, you did give them a $10,000 grant.
11:38:32 Oh, right, yeah. And.
11:38:36 42 shine residence, improve the safety of shine rather than Hicks Beach Park.
11:38:43 Is that the same location as the public works? Yes. Well, Hicks Park is they work there.
11:38:48 We're 5 separate projects there. Right? So 2 of them were the 2 slides that the public works project addressed and then there's also an interest to try to address some of the
traffic issues that we've heard quite a few, and I would love.
11:39:03 For public works as they go through it, to consider that you know wider shoulders and kind of making it a one-land road, and I'm wondering if that is a way to game.
11:39:13 The algorithms that keep directing people and even more, when the roundabout comes in, we'll keep directing people to shine road as bridge traffic, circumventing route.
11:39:22 But if it was a one lane robe with wide shoulders that you know, you just had them yield to each other. I don't know.
11:39:27 I'd love for public works to explore that option.
11:39:33 Clean up the rocks at the beach, which would be Iraq, that Hpa. Permitted.
11:39:39 Everything would be a huge, huge project, and I feel like you know.
11:39:42 Let that occur in the natural pace.
11:39:52 But I think we're at. I am just wondering public work, as you know, the agency that would be responsible for to work.
11:40:00 And then the community effort. This just is a support for that as soon as I was concerned.
11:40:04 Yeah.
11:40:06 Okay.
11:40:11 There is Jefferson County Public Works, no Creek Road, Culver Replacement.
11:40:18 Hmm! Hi Rankin! Hello! Just feeling like there's a lot of Federal and State funding for Culbert replacement.
11:40:24 And again. It's, you know, having local match is a challenge.
11:40:28 Public works does a great job. It's they're doing such a good job that I ran from low irony that's why I thought maybe we give them a a bucket of funding to use for local maps
for project cause they are they are asking for almost 500,000 here so maybe we
11:40:43 give them 2 or 300,000, and say, use this for that would be a good use of the funds.
11:40:50 Yeah, instead of it identifying a project. One of these projects.
11:40:58 For projects, for projects, I'm just saying, Yeah, I know. I mean, they have on my street.
11:41:03 I care about it. I want it to happen, but it's already scheduled.
11:41:06 It's already going to happen well, they obviously need more funding if they're asking for it.
11:41:10 They're not making up the need. I know. I know.
11:41:14 I know those gentlemen would not be making up the need.
11:41:16 No! No! For sure!
11:41:19 Yeah, worthy project. Just to me. And it's already scheduled. It's booked.
11:41:24 It's gonna happen regardless. So that match this match with, you know, it's like putting funds into the road fund. I agree.
11:41:31 And I think we can even look. I mean, we've already been lighting down the law enforcement diversity from the road find, and we can look to other ways to make sure they have
the funds to do what they want a lot of the other projects don't have that requires.
11:41:47 Okay. Okay.
11:41:51 Number 4, Bertieville Garden, Co-OP greenhouse produce, wash area and wheelchair, accessible restroom.
11:42:00 We could do both of these at once. I was just concerned that these are on private property, and didn't didn't see how we could do that with much assurance of use of public phones.
11:42:12 I would say to to Matthew's credit, he is doing great work for the farmers.
11:42:19 Market gardens, he's doing awesome work, and you know he is, he's a private person, but he has a mountain of community spirit, but I had the same questions, obviously because
I ranked them relatively low.
11:42:33 Sorry, Bertie. Yeah. Wish I wish I could support him more.
11:42:37 I love the idea. I love the work they're doing out there.
11:42:41 Alright, 45.
11:42:45 Support towns and creative district.
11:42:49 Interactive Arts registry, hiring facilitator for comprehensive arts and culture, plan new arts, festivals, school programs, creating micro grant program.
11:42:58 Who knows more about this one? I'm like, what is this?
11:43:01 Yes, a new program that commerce developed and they've designated a couple of creative districts across the State.
11:43:08 Did we actually get our? Yeah, we did get it here. But I ranked it relatively low, just because I feel like the if the State wants to create this program, they they should be
funding it.
11:43:24 Yeah, yeah, Yup, so appreciate the work they're doing it just didn't rise to the top for me.
11:43:30 I gave it as high as I did too low for funding even in mind, just because I really did want to find a way to support the arts, and this I feel that's a that we didn't yeah,
but we did it with the cares.
11:43:44 We spent a lot of dedicated a lot to nonprofits, and our organization.
11:43:48 So alright. 47. Sound, sound, discounted audio, and events services for nonprofit organizations that it was a four-profit organization.
11:44:01 Yeah, same.
11:44:05 So on that one. Yeah. Good, good, good, good, good work. I've done a very similar project.
11:44:09 You can set up as a nonprofit, and they still won't believe that you're a nonprofit.
11:44:14 That's my experience. So, Prosaurus, I have no yeah.
11:44:18 Our spam. It felt like spam. I know those folks for local food systems, initiative and program development.
11:44:26 Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, it is like, we did identify that through the cares process.
11:44:31 And the, you know, valuable project, but I think there's just not enough momentum right now.
11:44:39 Behind this. I don't have an extension director.
11:44:42 It's just not not the right time. It it is one of the proponents was a vendor in the farmers market here for a number of years, so it is not to totally out of the blue. I can
see why it would feel that way yeah, I don't know they individuals.
11:44:56 I just did just look like a consultant trying to.
11:45:03 Yeah, I was like, yeah.
11:45:05 Okay, so, we've made it through. We've still got 15Â min to assign all this money.
11:45:11 We're doing great let's go back to the top of the list and start slotting in some dollars.
11:45:14 All right. Project number one, Y.M.C.A. Thoughts, can we start a new?
11:45:20 We started a couple of columns in excel, and to be tabulating the total amount.
11:45:28 We just plugged it, you know, if you want 100 grand for this, it'll totally at the bottom, and then it will tell you how much you got left well, I think we should start with
100 for this one yeah, all right, let's put numbers in that we're starting with and then we might have
11:45:42 to do?
11:45:47 Number 2, I'd say 50 for this, which will get us should get us through most of the design process.
11:45:56 Okay.
11:46:01 Digital nav. That's another project number 2, 35.
11:46:07 Okay.
11:46:12 Okay, you just want me. Anyone past it again.
11:46:21 Warming shelter.
11:46:37 1, 20.
11:46:46 That's cool Northwest School, but wouldn't vote billing.
11:46:55 And see where we are. Yeah, I'm say 50 on this one.
11:47:00 I gotta get deeper down the list and give them some support.
11:47:05 Can we put a 100, and then highlight it and see if it gets us?
11:47:08 You know the difference between another project or not?
11:47:20 Number 7, we'll see. Oh, no, we we yeah, we're quilting.
11:47:35 I'd say 29. That's just to give them money to get started. Yeah.
11:47:42 You will hear that.
11:47:45 Yeah, that's enough for seed money, I mean, that's my question.
11:47:48 Is that it really enough for grassroots, effort, and they're gonna they're just building capacity website yeah, you know more way more about it than me.
11:48:03 So I mean, I'm I was just saying wheels on concrete.
11:48:05 So yeah, you know more way more about it than me.
11:48:05 Right? Okay.
11:48:09 I'd say 40, so we can buy the truck.
11:48:14 That makes sense to me.
11:48:19 Not Arivian, though not Arivian. Alright number 2.
11:48:27 A Lampic. Oh!
11:48:32 And then, could we scroll down to the see how much we have left? Don't we be 24 on that one? Yeah, I think so.
11:48:40 24 on that one. Yeah.
11:48:48 Jefferson. Healthcare next, yeah. 50. Down with that.
11:48:55 Give me a second.
11:49:00 Have to get health care first. We haven't done it much for okay.
11:49:09 Public works.
11:49:15 How was it under? Oh, sorry!
11:49:22 Yeah, even past it. Oh, there it is!
11:49:29 So we give them 200 and spread it around, or.
11:49:37 We do 100 and highlight it.
11:49:44 Maybe. Same with habitat. Yeah.
11:49:51 Okay? 100 with the highlight.
11:50:02 Okay.
11:50:06 I'm still in the black. Yeah, around 13. Andy.
11:50:12 Hell!
11:50:19 I would say 100 for us. Number, are we looking at you?
11:50:27 Just passed it there, 9 6,200 highlighted as well.
11:50:33 I'd probably recommend more like 50, but I did. I didn't like this project are you down at like 40?
11:50:40 Let's see what the next couple of Port Townsend.
11:50:44 My project.
11:50:49 Quarter, port Townsend.
11:50:54 But 100, and see what happens. He's going for a huge hey?
11:51:01 Where are you at? Can we highlight the port also? And then can we look at the next couple just to see what we, what the opportunity cost, is here?
11:51:14 And then select trails and peninsula trails, coalition.
11:51:21 Yes, 2250. Yeah, he put in 20 and highlighted.
11:51:28 Can we just can we try that? You guys may, if we just put in a few more and then go back.
11:51:31 And with the with the and then what? 16 Jefferson Community Foundation.
11:51:42 It was 52,000 for staff, for that it was 45,000.
11:51:49 So what if we put in like 20?
11:51:55 Well, oh, sorry. Yeah. I mean, let's put 20 end just to highlight. It.
11:52:01 Just as a thought experiment here, and maybe one more.
11:52:15 And knowing. Okay? So 60% of that, yeah, maybe, since we're already over. So what are we at? Total? Now?
11:52:26 Gonna cut 94.
11:52:30 Hmm!
11:52:32 Okay, let's look at all our hundreds.
11:52:37 Highlighted hundreds or the highlights. Let's go back to the highlights and maybe starting from the bottom.
11:52:42 Yeah, just a stick close to our range.
11:52:50 Look at the let's look at the ones we have highlighted in yellow.
11:52:56 There's 3 of them.
11:53:04 I feel like.
11:53:10 I would I would prefer to cut the ports one to 50.
11:53:19 I concur. I feel like we could cut all these to 50.
11:53:27 On the hill. I am. That would be okay. Cutting that one.
11:53:34 But if we give those 80 80 did 80 to student housing upgrades, I give both those 80 yeah, I think that would be that gets us closer to where we wanna be an 80 on what?
11:53:48 80 on Dundee.
11:53:54 How many units of housing is that 5 workforce?
11:53:59 Is there another 100 above that mark?
11:54:09 It's an 82 4,000 shorters.
11:54:18 Oh, if we if we could just be 5! I think it's as close if we gave 80 to our $100,000 project, we might be able to fund something else.
11:54:26 What else would down our list? I mean I've the ones that still ring ring to me are things like marrowstone emergency prep, and I I would love to do the money trades, too.
11:54:41 But yeah, it's hard to go out of, you know.
11:54:45 Like, yeah, okay, what if we dropped habitat to 75?
11:54:51 Does that get us to about even? I think we're about even I think we're about even now.
11:55:01 Oh, yeah, we're 4,000 and some change. Yeah, that's what I suggested.
11:55:05 And then let's look at the bottom. Yeah.
11:55:08 718. And so are any of these projects.
11:55:14 Time like cause, some of this funding we're not gonna have for a while right?
11:55:20 So are any of these projects needing the funding. Now.
11:55:26 I mean the what any of them say. I can't take the money.
11:55:30 I need it. I needed it yesterday. Probably not. But most of these are, I mean investment grants. So.
11:55:39 I don't know I mean, we'll find that out for Seventh Haven is that one have a time limit on it.
11:55:46 I mean I don't think they could thank you they're not gonna say, now, all right, contract. Yeah.
11:55:55 I think I know it's a lot of contracting here to do, but I think a lot of details will get fleshed out in that process.
11:56:07 Alright! Can we walk through one more time, Mark? So start like our number are one through 1213. Whatever.
11:56:15 So we got 100,000. I just wanted to write down what we're 100,000 for the one Kay Skate Park Development 2055, 15.
11:56:27 I'm track 50.
11:56:31 Order for towns and flood protection. 50.
11:56:37 Trailhead and viewpoint 20 Dundee Hill Development, 80.
11:56:44 Student housing upgrades for the Wooden Boat Building school. 80.
11:56:49 20 for coalition, for winter welcoming center. Jefferson.
11:56:56 Health, care 50 for the commercial kitchen.
11:57:00 For the Live Library district.
11:57:03 For shine, road, embankment, stabilization, 24.
11:57:10 Jefferson Community Foundation for this scholarship Summit 40 for the Humane Society's truck.
11:57:19 5 for Mason Street.
11:57:25 What and what's what are the next couple it's jimicum school.
11:57:29 And then once after that, wow! I know.
11:57:38 I would love to get some money to the marine trade.
11:57:41 I mean, yeah, you have the option of eating slightly into the allocation for headlocks.
11:57:50 What do you mean? You committed a 1,000,005 in ourpa money for liquidity and for contract cost escalations for the headlock sewer? We don't wanna dig into that.
11:58:06 And a middle and general fund money that's in capital improvement.
11:58:10 So that's 2 and a half 1 million.
11:58:14 So what was you? Wanna cut?
11:58:23 Okay, we have a portion just wanted to know. You have that option. I would love to give some money the marine traits cause I know how how bad they.
11:58:38 If it's economic development.
11:58:43 That's more from Mason Street. Yeah, there's some another 20 take the call from Licensry.
11:58:54 We just say 80 from a Mason street, and 15 for marine trees.
11:58:59 Yeah, yeah.
11:59:04 So cut Mason Street. To what? 80!
11:59:10 And what's it? 15 port towns and raid trades?
11:59:22 It's 15.
11:59:35 I want to see the little list like sorted with might be able to get that.
11:59:43 So commissioners, you wanna break until 1 30 and then revisit this this afternoon, just to make sure that okay, yeah, we'll finalize it around in your heads a little bit.
11:59:54 Yep, that sounds good. Super productive, though. Thank you. Everyone for joining us for the sausage.
12:00:01 I felt a little like how well I I had Covid, and I was.
12:00:06 It's tapping away, and I'm like what it's hard to keep them all in your head.
12:00:09 It's so nice to be able to just. And you guys know some about specifics, about some of the projects that I was like, what is this project exactly?
12:00:19 Okay, well, good word. Thank you. Everyone. Thanks for your help with this, and we will adjourn until 1 30, when we will come back and we'll take this up after we're done with
our letters and the the scheduled activities.
12:00:33 We have this afternoon. Alright, thanks, everyone. See you this afternoon.
13:30:59 She is. She went home for long stuff, so.
13:31:04 Oh, man!
13:31:28 Jesse, short. Yeah.
13:31:34 Diana, do we need to bring Jesse over?
13:31:41 To the zoom panel.
13:31:46 Okay. I don't think she can hear.
13:31:54 Well, I will call this meeting of the Board of County Commissioners back to order, and we are going to continue with our conversation with potential action, and we will have
another public comment if we do take action before any action that we take.
13:32:11 So we're talking more about the Olympic Terrace Otto Phase 2 flat alteration, David Wayne Johnson.
13:32:17 Thanks for joining us. Okay, so my name is David Wayne Johnson.
13:32:23 I'm an associate planner with the Department of Community Development, also known as Dcd.
13:32:28 For Jefferson County, I'm also the Port Ludlow lead Planner and the subject and the project planner for the subject application which, as you mentioned, is to discuss and take
potential action on approval of a flat alteration.
13:32:43 It was applied, or from Portlando associates under the port.
13:32:48 Level Development Agreement and subdivision, ordinance.
13:32:52 Oh, 2052692, section 14. Alterations to remove tracks B and C.
13:32:59 Reserved for future development under Olympic Terrace 2 phase, one, subdivision and reorient track a and redesign tracks E. And F.
13:33:09 For 37 new lots for development under Olympic chairs.
13:33:15 Phase 2. If you recall from our discussion on Monday, February thirteenth.
13:33:26 There is a 2 part process to this and it's kind of like a regular plaque okay, there's a preliminary approval that the hearing examiner grants.
13:33:36 Dcda takes that preliminary approval. We issue an actual document saying you've been granted approval for this pla alteration. Application.
13:33:44 Here are the conditions of approval that you need to satisfy, and the second part of that process is the final process where they have to satisfy those conditions, produce a
final mylar for record signing and recording.
13:33:56 And then that gets recorded. And so your your preliminary approval, or today is to grant legislative approval for the pla alteration application.
13:34:09 And then we can go to the next phase and do the final part of that, and also that includes that includes the signing of the each of the or the departments that have review authority,
and then it comes back to you for final signing.
13:34:26 As well. So that's the final approval process.
13:34:29 So does that make sense to everybody with that process? Okay, just wanted to make sure we we were on the same page.
13:34:37 There. So I've produced a staff report which I hope you all had time to review.
13:34:44 Well, there was an issue with that. Okay, it was. It was not on the agenda on Friday, so we didn't have it until this Monday morning. So we didn't have it until this Monday
morning.
13:34:57 So it did get a chance to bruise it at lunch.
13:34:57 I don't issue, you know. Multiple attachments. Only one of them got onto the agenda.
13:35:03 So I am a little concerned about taking final action. The public hasn't had a chance to review that until this morning as well.
13:35:12 So understood. I did, though. Yeah. Well, that's why I asked the question, because there was a snafu with that getting along agenda.
13:35:19 So, I don't know how you wanna proceed, but I can make some comments on it, and I guess I'll just ask, did everyone have a chance to look at the okay?
13:35:31 So let's let's proceed, and we might just delay final action just you know, to based on our conversation.
13:35:37 If we think I mean, there's a lot of testimony from the residentents that are otone already.
13:35:41 So you did get the word out there's no way I'd like to do that right. So please.
13:35:51 So I just need to make note of a couple of corrections.
13:35:51 I referred in the report to Mount Walker Way. It is not in mountain waterways, Mount Wilder, so I think there's 3 occasions.
13:35:57 There was, made first page under background information, and then page 5.
13:36:00 So I'll correct that in the final version of the Staff Report, which is wanted to make sure that was clear.
13:36:08 And I guess you know it speaks to itself.
13:36:10 It speaks for itself. But I just wanted to know if you had any questions that weren't clear.
13:36:16 We're something we could talk about at the end of the report.
13:36:21 Our recommended conditions of appropriate. So that's what we're really asking you to approve is our recommendation.
13:36:28 And that's for approval of the application with conditions so if you have any questions on that, I guess I'm curious to hear those I mean, do you?
13:36:40 Wanna there's quite a few conditions. Do you want to speak to them at all, or do they kind of speak for themselves?
13:36:46 And I wonder if you want to talk about that might be a good time to talk to you about some of the concerns that were brought up in the so the first one is that we have.
13:36:58 One of the exhibits exhibit 17 is a checklist and compliance matrix.
13:37:03 Now this is a tool that I've used.
13:37:05 Very successfully, because there's a lot of things you gotta make sure are done before we do that final stage and sign off so that compliance matrix we need to ensure that all
those conditions under the preliminary approval for Otto are met also the sepa mitigation measures are
13:37:27 met. And so, as we go through the final process, we'll complete those, and then that will be brought back to you as a demonstration that they have complied with all those conditions
of approved.
13:37:40 So that's the first condition. The second one is, is this emergency egress which, by the way, some brought up the comment that it's not actually on the plaque.
13:37:51 No, it's not on a separate parcel. That's not part of the.
13:37:57 But they're asking for a note on the plot to describe that, to say this is, I mean, there's it shows us the 60 foot utility easement which is actually there in reality, as on
the plan.
13:38:09 But then it then you'd never get to see that emergency egress all the way to to Lake Road right?
13:38:16 So we could put a note on that flat before final. Make sure that's on.
13:38:20 There to reference that and that. That's one of the comments can we stop there for a moment? I mean, those are the comments where, of course, beyond the scope of this what we're
considering today largely right?
13:38:32 I mean largely, it was they should build a road, and then that gets tied into the, you know, doing they get a public road.
13:38:41 I'm sure that this would wanna be a public road as well right.
13:38:44 So build another public road, I mean, do you wanna address those concerns?
13:38:48 And whether Dcd. Is a recommendation so there's more to it than just that.
13:38:58 So the phase one was approved as a public road.
13:39:03 Dcd's recommendation is that phase 2 be approved also as a public report.
13:39:09 Public Works Department, on the other hand, which has control over public roads.
13:39:14 Had a different recommendation right now. Those seem like they're inconsistent, but they're really not because there is a separate process that has to occur before we determine
whether they're public or private, and you are the decision makers in that process.
13:39:29 So, my third cond alludes to that the applicant shall be informed by public works regarding a separate process.
13:39:37 So we do have information on that separate process. One of the questions we had, though, was whether or not the applicant needs to make a formal petition to the Board to do
that, or, if we can just do it as a condition of approval.
13:39:50 But an engineer's report has to be produced.
13:39:53 Then you have to hold a public hearing. Take public testimony.
13:39:56 Before you make a decision on whether or not these roads are.
13:40:00 Gonna be private or public, but the Dcd. Recommends that they be public, and that's just consistent with our approval.
13:40:06 Under phase, one. The preliminary approval, so that's our recommendation.
13:40:11 And you know it's kind of difficult for me to figure out how to do that.
13:40:15 It should have occurred before this point, but the urgency of getting this approved.
13:40:22 It didn't happen. We just wanna meet. Sure this is done, and we think we, this is an acceptable way to do that.
13:40:28 But still there's a separate process for that question on that.
13:40:34 Do we hold a hearing regardless if we're proposing that it be public or private?
13:40:41 Or only if we want it to be a public road. What triggers the process for a hearing yeah, I believe you have to hold a public hearing on on that issue, on either one okay? And
again, that's the public works exclusive process.
13:40:59 So that would occur during the point after approval where they're going through the final parts of it, satisfying the conditions of approval.
13:41:08 It could be either one. We're pretty sure it's gonna be public, though.
13:41:12 So that's why we're recommending it. I think it's I can't.
13:41:18 I can't say what you're gonna approve.
13:41:20 You know what your decision is gonna be? That's that's not not appropriate.
13:41:25 But that was one of the issues. So any questions on that.
13:41:31 Yeah, if if I could weigh in at this point.
13:41:35 So thanks Commissioner Dean for that last question. So because we figured this issue was gonna come up.
13:41:39 We saw some of the comments made. We asked Eric, Kuzma to join us, and he graciously accepted that invitation.
13:41:45 So he is here to represent public works, and just simply on the process for adding road segments to the county road system.
13:41:55 That is a process that is covered by public works, and our understanding from discussing with colleagues at public works is that there is a you know there is a process for that,
and it involves a public hearing.
13:42:07 And I would ask, I would defer to Eric really, on the details of that.
13:42:11 Eric, do you want to go into that? At this point?
13:42:14 There's not much more to be said. We I mean we have to as I, Josh and David said, we need to prepare that engineer's report that engineers report is gone over by the board in
a public hearing, and then you know you guys decide whether or not to make them.
13:42:30 Public or private.
13:42:32 Okay, do we have a timeline? I guess. David, for that kind of conversation so the critical part is this approval deployment. You can figure it a preliminary approval of the
flat alteration right?
13:42:45 All of the rest of the stuff can take time we'll be, you know.
13:42:49 This process will be part of that there's a lot of things to do.
13:42:52 Structure has to get put in all the other conditions have to be satisfied, you know.
13:43:02 A lot of them were like taking that emergency access and turning it into a road because of the traffic.
13:43:07 And I guess what we have, Eric here. I'm wondering, you know, they talked about the age of the traffic study though I mean, there's not a lot of new houses since that traffic
study.
13:43:16 I assume so I guess I'd love public works and Dcds.
13:43:22 Response to that comment. So I'll start off. I mean that access is allowed use for construction vehicles already.
13:43:29 I mean to use as that, and I guess the issue for us is whether or not there will be a condition of approval to require instruction vehicles to use that.
13:43:42 I don't think we're we're not recommended.
13:43:44 I don't think that would be even legal with the with that.
13:43:49 So, the other road being public, we could do that. But how do you enforce it?
13:43:53 And you know it would have to be a condition. Contracts.
13:43:57 The poa has but another condition that I think was being asked for was turning that emergency access into, you know, an actual road.
13:44:06 Oh, well, yeah, no, it's just specified on there to be 20 as conditioned under the preliminary approval.
13:44:15 20 feet to fire international fire code standards. Okay? An actual road no, I don't think public works.
13:44:25 I think Eric needs to address that.
13:44:28 Eric? And are you familiar with what I'm talking about?
13:44:33 Roughly, yes.
13:44:36 Do you guys have a I'm sure that you don't want the addition of another road on on public works.
13:44:44 List of responsibilities. But do you guys have any? Have you started looking at the traffic flow at this?
13:44:50 Do you have any preliminary analysis of whether you know a redundant, redundant access to the public should be required?
13:45:03 Well, that's a different question. The I would stop short of saying analysis, Greg, but the the roads were requested.
13:45:15 The roads that they wanna use to access this plot were requested to be public and are public, and I don't think we have a mechanism to limit the public's use of those public
roads.
13:45:26 I don't know that we have a mechanism to require the public's use of a private road, either, which is what they're essentially proposing.
13:45:35 Now I believe that there may be other mechanisms that are not the countingies, but they're not the counties.
13:45:42 I mean that the roads were designed and built up to a certain standard, to to hold the vehicles that are being proposed.
13:45:50 So it's well within the capacity of the roadway.
13:45:54 And do you think that with all the houses built out, the full built environment, that those roads, those roads, are still to spec essentially as design?
13:46:04 If they were built to spec, which I assume that they were then.
13:46:09 Yes, and in the construction traffic is tenporary you know, and you could take that same analysis and take it one step back and say all the roads that LED up to the last Ot.
13:46:19 One or Otto phase. One used other roads to get to them, where they addedequate, and they're still gonna be used to get to this.
13:46:26 One is just then there's this other step in between.
13:46:28 So how is it different?
13:46:32 Okay. Thank you.
13:46:38 All right? Number 4. Yeah. Just comply with the recommendations of the Public Works Department, one of those being that the roads be dedicated to private use.
13:46:52 And like, I said, that's to be determined. So that's the only one.
13:46:58 I think that question oh, could we dig a little deeper into this question?
13:47:02 I'm interested in the concern from some of the Otone residents that we would be violating our own development agreements if we were to.
13:47:18 They've talked about the any new or different development standards adopted by the county shall not apply.
13:47:27 Have we done any analysis on that yet? And it sounds like we don't need to make this decision today.
13:47:31 But I think it would inform how I wanna proceed. Yeah, I think I would defer to our legal counsel on that question.
13:47:41 As far as I know, I mean, we've here an examiner approved the preliminary pla that the way it was conditions.
13:47:48 So, and that included the access point. Are you adding another one?
13:47:53 The traffic impact analysis doesn't support.
13:47:58 And you know the question. I'm not sure that question is relevant to this.
13:48:04 It's just been brought up as possible. Violation of the development agreement.
13:48:11 Yeah, no, we haven't done that analysis. Okay, it would be interesting to know.
13:48:16 Because if I could just weigh in on that for 1Â s, too, I'm not sure if I quit.
13:48:21 Okay.
13:48:21 Fully understand the question, but I think if the allegation or the assertion is that somehow the development agreement ties the county into accepting all Port Lovelow Platts
as public roads, I don't.
13:48:34 I don't remember that part of it. I think it really just ties us to older subdivision ordinances.
13:48:40 But David question for you is, I could have sworn I've heard that there was an example of a pl that was approved in the Master Plan resort that had private roads.
13:48:49 Is, that.
13:48:50 That's true. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
13:48:54 2.
13:48:53 So, at least by precedent. We have at least one example of private roads within 4.
13:49:00 Reference.
13:49:04 And it might be nice to get some clarification from Home Secretary when we do take on the public versus private road.
13:49:11 Yes, yes, that would be but that doesn't need to be finalized in order to that. To do this preliminary approval of the plan.
13:49:20 Great. Thank you, but we are kind of finalizing the conditions in this platform adjustment.
13:49:26 So, although, as it's written, it could be approved with the that number 3, that the decision will be made prior to final plat alteration.
13:49:41 Yeah, I'm not sure.
13:49:45 Be reviewed by our legal bill.
13:49:47 And that can be done as part of the process, for that.
13:49:57 All right. Please continue.
13:50:06 Final signature recording. This is the final part of the approval process.
13:50:10 Maybe subject to minor additional revisions. That's special.
13:50:16 So we're we're just saying, if we discover something that should have been there, we can correct it before final.
13:50:24 Prior to final plan approval of proponents. She'll provide certification in public works.
13:50:31 That the roads are going and constructed per through plans.
13:50:36 Construction is complete, and she'll submit a letter from the project engineer.
13:50:40 Certify, no stormwater management facilities instructed.
13:50:44 Approved plans. PCB. Connective. Final approval for the project.
13:50:50 Received watermade extension from water systems, improvements that may be required to serve as it'll be installed prior to final extensions and improvements.
13:51:01 Shall be in conformance with the level of water system. Plan.
13:51:08 And she'll include acknowledgement from Olympic water and sewer that water main extensions have been certified in accordance with the provision 2, 46, 2, 9 10 to.
13:51:22 Condition number 9 prior to final plan, approval, documentary.
13:51:26 She'll be submitted from. So we're confirming that this fewer instructed him with the standards.
13:51:35 Again, this is all the infrastructure that needs to occur.
13:51:39 Performance, surety may be posted in lieu of completion of construction, as provided by 6.6 to yeah, the application may enter into a security agreement with the Department
of Public Works as an alternative to complete installation prior to that approval the surety may not exceed one year and
13:52:02 must be in a form acceptable, accounting prosecutor. Acceptable examples.
13:52:08 Sure these are available from the Department of Public Works. All sure these must be accompanied by an estimate and cost of all improvements, and the estimate must be approved
by the Department of Public Works prior to acceptance of sure condition 11 prior to final flat approval.
13:52:25 The applicants shall provide rich on the fire district number 3.
13:52:33 East Jefferson Fires.
13:52:38 The consulting fire inspector that the final design and construction of the long flat will be in conformance.
13:52:45 Compliance with the applicable provisions of International Fire code and the recommendations of Fire Department, which are consistent with State law that includes the emergency,
egress, road.
13:52:57 Applicants shall arrange for the inspection and required improvements of the Department of Public Works, Dcd.
13:53:03 Or public health, each other is responsible inspection shall be requested.
13:53:06 By the applicant in such stages as, Okay.
13:53:13 In queens.
13:53:18 Great. Thank you very much. Everyone. Any questions or comments I have microphone.
13:53:27 So the Olympic Cove roads being private.
13:53:31 Sorry. I'm I love the cove. Thank you. I'm I'm assuming that was under your tenure as the Port Planner.
13:53:40 What triggered in that instance, cause I wasn't at the table at the time.
13:53:45 What triggered that shift there? Well, that was public works.
13:53:52 Okay, okay, just wanted to confirm that.
13:53:56 And to be clear, pla requested those roads to be private.
13:54:02 Oh, Andrew, oh, interesting. Okay.
13:54:07 The difference here is that the first one was public, right, at least in my way of thinking so.
13:54:13 Continuation. I will. Is a reasonable expectation, and there's so many folks that are be burdened by it.
13:54:19 If it was a private road. That's not what we're talking about today.
13:54:23 No, I'm just curious trying to piece the story back together.
13:54:27 Questions. No, that was no. It sounds like we could get the the additional emergency egress on the plats.
13:54:46 Oh, that's what I'm doing it as presented today.
13:54:51 Were you saying? After this preliminary approval, we could add the to the base of the cloud.
13:54:58 The final, which is already there. Yeah, that's part of the plans.
13:55:04 But it's just not on the face to flat. Yeah, it makes sense to make it clear to.
13:55:06 Great, so just a point of clarification. David, you're talking about a note on the that references, the emergency egress, but not actually including the roadway itself.
13:55:21 That's right.
13:55:21 On the platform, which, of course, is off the Plat at this point, right?
13:55:24 That's correct. Yes.
13:55:27 Is there any benefit in adding it to the will?
13:55:31 Start part of the application. So it's not really part of the plan.
13:55:35 Okay, reference is the best we can do. And that's what was requested to.
13:55:40 It seems like for thinking 20 years down the road, when we're all not here.
13:55:48 But it would make sense to have a note, you know. So someone goes.
13:55:52 Oh, someone thought about this, you know, anyway.
13:55:57 Would that sound something that would delay this preliminary decision?
13:56:03 Would that would delay this? No, it would take action.
13:56:08 And just. Add that condition right? If you're instructing me to have that condition.
13:56:14 Now, as part of the approval would go in our permit to Pla.
13:56:20 So we would add that to the list of conditions. Yeah.
13:56:25 Nope!
13:56:28 Well, shouldn't we? You guys wanna make a motion that will take some public comment if anyone has anything to.
13:56:35 Is there more deliberation? Do you have?
13:56:41 Let's see, do we need to reference the additional condition language?
13:56:56 Could add it to number 2.
13:57:00 Oh, and there's a typo in the applicant shell construction.
13:57:05 The emergency egress. Construct some extra, I on added, there!
13:57:14 Something like adding onto that sentence, has had their hands up on the attendee list.
13:57:24 I just didn't know if they were staff or something.
13:57:26 How's that? Sure to be referenced on the face of the.
13:57:46 I'm looking at page 700 recommended conditions number 2.
13:57:52 I'm referring to the draft.
13:58:01 Off the page, and there's no continuation. So that's where we can put note represents that.
13:58:08 I just want to be really clear when we make yeah, what edits we're making.
13:58:17 And.
13:58:21 Is it this? Yeah, report, or it's not the staff report, which is, would it's either approve or deny the recommendation and application.
13:58:35 So action.
13:58:47 Can someone direct us as to what the motion would need to be?
13:58:51 I see that the agenda request asks to either approve or deny the recommendation and application. So I have the staff recommendation which I think we would need to edit to include
that minor.
13:59:06 Thank you.
13:59:04 Yeah, this is Josh. I'll weigh in on that Commissioner Dean, I think, just under recommended condition number 2.
13:59:10 The applicant count shall construct, got the extra ion the emergency egress per the standards of the Ifc.
13:59:18 Per the submitted plans and include a reference note on the face of the Pl.
13:59:25 And I think from there we'll direct the applicant to make those changes for that final document which will be signed by the chair.
13:59:31 Okay, so, shall I be making a motion to except the staff recommendations as edited, or we also needing to.
13:59:43 Well? And do we also need to approve or accept the application?
13:59:49 Or they approve the plat alteration with the conditions as a.
13:59:56 So is it. The flat alteration we are being asked to approve, or the recommended staff recommendations which is referenced in the I'm looking at the Stat.
14:00:05 The agenda request.
14:00:10 I would say.
14:00:14 I'll get the specific.
14:00:14 You're providing approval of to provide legislative approval of of the preliminary.
14:00:22 Flat alteration as condition, but per the staff. Recommendation.
14:00:29 Or Olympic Terrace, too.
14:00:46 Late, on!
14:00:46 Got it, too, and otherwise I moved to approve the preliminary pla alteration as conditioned by the Snap report for Olympic terrorist, too.
14:00:59 I'll second that. Okay, before we take final action, we will open this up to public comments.
14:01:05 We'll restrict public comments to 3Â min each.
14:01:09 I see Mr. Jerk is ready to come over, and Mr.
14:01:12 Dean. Bring them over. Yeah. Anyone in the room, of course, is an opportunity as well.
14:01:17 So we'll start online. And Dave, when you get yourself unmuted.
14:01:24 You're so just public comment. You don't have to identify yourself.
14:01:27 But we'd love to hear from you, and what you have to contribute to this.
14:01:29 We didn't see your your written testimony as well.
14:01:32 Okay, this is David Jerko, I, resident of Ot.
14:01:38 2 and president of the Ott. 2 Homeowners Association, just a couple of questions and a couple of comments.
14:01:45 First of all, is there some place where the separate, the so called separated process, who are determining the road?
14:01:52 Dedication question is described. So we know what that process consists of.
14:01:57 You can refer me to something in the code, or regulate some somewhere.
14:02:02 So I just know what that process is.
14:02:03 Yes, the Public Works Department has a information sheet on that.
14:02:09 I, I can, yeah.
14:02:09 Can provide it to me later. You don't need to get, but if you could send me an email with that I'd be helpful.
14:02:14 You bet!
14:02:16 And will there be an opportunity, for you know, public input as part of that process?
14:02:22 That will be a hearing. So yes, there will be a.
14:02:24 Hmm, okay. All right. With respect to the what you were just talking about on the note on the plot, just to be aware the beginning of that construction access road.
14:02:52 Right.
14:02:38 Is shown on sheet 9 of the plan. Just the very entrance is a part of the track, a limited common area, so that would be an appropriate place to put that note, because that beginning
portion of the road is part of the pled.
14:02:55 I think there was some confusion. Greg.
14:03:00 I don't think the anybody was proposing that the Construction Access road be a public road.
14:03:06 The the request was that construction truck traffic use that access road rather than Mount Constants way, and I'm not aware of anything that says you cannot impose that restriction.
14:03:21 In fact, the existing language on the Platte document contemplates that it says, I think I pointed out in the letter to one of the notes that might be, note 13 or something.
14:03:35 Refers to truck route restrictions and work, hour restrictions.
14:03:39 But at doesn't then give any fruct out restrictions.
14:03:42 That is the natural and appropriate place to put on the plant.
14:03:48 The Truck route restriction, that construction trucks should use the constraints, access road.
14:03:55 So there is, there is no such, there is no nothing preventing you from doing that.
14:04:02 And addition, there was absolutely nothing that would prevent you from making it a condition of approval and I'm not sure whether it makes more sense to be part of this this
pla alteration approval as opposed to the final plan.
14:04:15 Approval, but you certainly could impose as a condition that on pla going forward, that it can require its contractors to use the construction access road.
14:04:32 That's not. That wouldn't be the county enforcing such a thing.
14:04:36 It would just be. That would be a an obligation of pla to include such a term in its context contracts which which it can do.
14:04:45 And you have the authority to impose that kind of condition.
14:04:48 Thank you. Dave. That's 3Â min.
14:04:49 Other than that. I'm.
14:04:51 I appreciate your contributions. Hmm!
14:04:52 Okay. Alright!
14:04:55 All right. Great. Well, turn over to Mister Dean. You have 3Â min to share your thoughts with us, Bill.
14:05:03 Hmm!
14:05:04 So so I'll pick up on where Dave just left off, and just say that we feel that it's important to put this as a requirement as far as having the contractors be directed elsewhere
to give Pla the Amazon.
14:05:22 They need to not or to really strongly encourage their contractors.
14:05:30 They've tried tried time and time again to say that to please use the construction entrance, and we appreciate that.
14:05:37 And it's helped. But I think for them to be able to say, Look, it's a legal requirement, gives gives that some more weight, and the wording that we used in the one of the letters
we sent to you would say that they should use the construction entrance rather than the spring would drive and
14:05:56 mount Constants way. Access that makes it much clearer.
14:06:01 What they're not supposed to do, so we we would just recommend that you do that kind of that kind of work as far as the the note on the Pl.
14:06:14 They've identified the fact that part of that road is already shone as an access road.
14:06:19 It's not a utility ease, but it's shown as an access easement, and I think that it ought to be not just a dotted easement.
14:06:26 The way it is, I think it ought to be shown as a emergency access, not as a road, but just as an emergency access.
14:06:35 Just not a dotted line and the fire department regulations for that type of road.
14:06:42 That this is shown as the d. 102 of the International Fire Code.
14:06:47 I think it's very important to put that in the words of emergency access on there, so that residents know that it still exists.
14:06:58 I will have to tell you that people had forgotten that that emergency access existed legally until we went and found it in the hearing.
14:07:05 Examiner's report, and it just been kinda of forgotten about so it could get forgotten again.
14:07:11 And it's good idea from an emergency management standpoint of which I am the chair of the Emergency Management Committee to have things on the Platt.
14:07:20 So people know it's so. Thank you very much for your time.
14:07:24 Thank you very much, and thank you, Mister Jerkov, for correcting my misconstrue, that the end goal for this.
14:07:32 I'm sorry I misinterpreted that, but I think I am on the same page as everyone else.
14:07:35 Now any other public comments today we'd love to hear from you.
14:07:41 You can click, raise hand to top to talk to us about this particular agenda item.
14:07:49 Seeing no one else online, I'll go to the room.
14:07:52 Anyone in the room want to make public comment. Nope, okay.
14:07:57 Hello!
14:08:04 Thank you. We're having some zoom visibility issues so if there's anyone on the phone that would like to make a couple of comments, we'd love to hear from you as well you'd
have to hit Star 9 to raise your hand so feel free to do that and you'd have to hit star 9 to raise your hand so feel free to do that and we
14:08:15 will see you.
14:08:20 So do we wanna ask the legal question? I mean, yeah, it.
14:08:28 They about making it a requirement that you're not use a public road is that's no, we can't do that.
14:08:36 And so conditions of approval are generally requirements. If you're gonna say you should use it.
14:08:43 That's not a requirement. That's a recommendation.
14:08:46 So that really isn't appropriate. To put it in conditions of approval for the county.
14:08:50 Now they're free to tell their contractors to use that access is there? Yeah, please come up.
14:08:59 Is there any incentive that we can use to help just kinda get the contractors over to that actual Brian Portlando associates, director of Construction?
14:09:08 So we have, yeah, 3 or 4 signs on the main road.
14:09:11 That state that that's a construction access, and then we encourage all of our trades as we see them.
14:09:18 If if a homeowner brings something up, we do ask them, hey?
14:09:21 Please use the construction access or the emergency access. We, it's not a construction, access and emergency access, but outside of that I don't know that we have any kind
of we can't contract with them for a legal you know.
14:09:36 Say, look, we're gonna arrest you or call call the share department. Eric.
14:09:40 I don't know. Do you know of anything that we can put in place for that other than to leave a bagged lunch half every day, recommending that, and so that's what we've been at
that's been our process.
14:09:53 With that signage, and just through education, I can tell you that I you know the majority of heavy equipment comes up and down that road very rarely.
14:10:03 If they ever does anyone come up Mount constants because it's just not convenient using that emergency access is a straight shot through to Mount Wilder.
14:10:12 There's no turning, there's none of that. So I just make sense from from a standpoint of economy, of turns, if you will, for big rig trucks.
14:10:20 So? Why are people making an issue of it? If no one is doing it?
14:10:23 I can't answer that. I can't say that I see any traffic on a regular basis going up and down that road, and I drive that road at least once a day at a minimum.
14:10:33 Once a day, and I also drive the emergency access. I don't see a large amount of if any, of the trade associates using that road, but I'm only on it for 5Â min a day at most,
so I I can't comment that I can comment that we do as much.
14:10:49 As we can to keep everybody off of that road. But it is a public road, so you see, Diana has her hand up. We have one more.
14:10:57 Go ahead, Diana, please!
14:10:59 I'd also like to point out that right now.
14:11:01 We only have 2 homes, 1, 2, 2 homes under construction, but many of the residents are using the same trades to do work on their homes personally.
14:11:27 Uhhuh.
14:11:14 So sometimes when other residents are seeing traffic that looks like construction traffic, it's actually just normal standard people reaching out to other trades, and that traffic
is happening in and out.
14:11:31 So, you know, I think we need to be really careful. We do try to do a good job about asking them if it makes sense for them.
14:11:38 And really, you know, I don't know how we could discriminate against somebody driving on a county road.
14:11:46 That seems a very large step to me.
14:11:49 We can make a private roads, though. And then, you guys, if it was private, that'd be different. Yeah.
14:11:58 Yeah, that's a public road, and it's built to public road standards to handle.
14:12:04 You know those large trucks? I think the issue here is with a perception of the Olympic territory one homeowners that it's Gonna increase, and there's Gonna be more truck traffic
than they are.
14:12:15 They want. I mean, how many bit houses would you be building at the maximum capacity?
14:12:22 At the same time 24 at the same time, through various stages.
14:12:28 And that's so a lot more. Then it's gonna be it's gonna be.
14:12:32 And it's a significant to build a home.
14:12:39 Maximum gotcha oh, sorry I'm not.
14:12:45 Yeah, but 12, but generally 7, 12.
14:12:53 Okay, we do have a 20'clock item. We're late for.
14:12:57 Sorry, Sarah, to keep you waiting. There is a motion on the table.
14:13:01 Any further conversations. Questions seemed like there was a question I wanted to follow up on.
14:13:10 Processing all the information we just shared.
14:13:17 So it sounds like we're not seeing a clear way to deal with the construction issue on this.
14:13:23 In the conditions that we're looking at today. Yeah.
14:13:30 Nope, I think I'm good. Thank you. Okay, I will call the question all in favor of approving this preliminary.
14:13:39 Platt. I'm forgetting all this alteration with the modification made today and the conditions as presented indicate by saying, Hi, bye, bye, hi!
14:13:53 That motion passes. Thank you. Guys very much. Nice work, David.
14:13:56 Yeah, looking forward to seeing this move down the road and for the residents there, too, are really excited to see the further development of Ot. Too.
14:14:05 So it's been a long time we've worked very hard in the last couple of months to get it to this point.
14:14:10 So thank you very much. I did send an email to Mister Hunsecker and CC, you guys, so we can start digging into that questions.
14:14:19 We're a little better prepared when we consider the public versus private road.
14:14:22 Oh, great! I don't know.
14:14:26 I'm just trying to stop by Eric's office in the way that okay?
14:14:32 Great. Okay.
14:14:42 Alright, great! Well, we will move on to our next agenda items.
14:14:45 Thanks for your patience, Sarah. Sorry when a little long or and I hear about the work plan for Hr.
14:14:52 Is that what's in front of us today? Hi, Josh!
14:14:53 Yes, that's what I'm here for.
14:14:55 Fantastic, so.
14:15:05 Indulge me. We've never done this before, and this is a new thing, and I think it's consistent with the Board's desire to to be a working board and to know in greater detail
what their department directors are doing.
14:15:20 And so wanted to quote unquote, get it out of the way.
14:15:26 And so I here she is. She's got a heavy workload, and yeah, she's about to share with you.
14:15:33 Great. Thank you. Take it away, Sarah.
14:15:36 Hi! And so I have a Powerpoint is that, can we share my screen?
14:15:41 Carolyn.
14:15:42 Just that you can see the.
14:15:45 Yes. Oh, I see. Hold on. Okay. I'm looking for my mouse.
14:16:02 Looks good. You might wanna go into the presentation mode.
14:16:09 Okay, so please holler if you see something that I can't see.
14:16:15 Okay.
14:16:14 Hey, Sarah, down! Can you go into presentation mode? There's a little.
14:16:18 Oh, yeah, I see what's happening. Is it going on a different screen?
14:16:23 Let me move this over.
14:16:27 Oops!
14:16:28 I think on, on your Powerpoint, you can still click that little presentation mode button right by the, and it'll work on on the very bottom right?
14:16:43 There's a looks like a little old cathode ray tube television that one.
14:16:48 Yeah, click on that. I think she did that she's got.
14:16:48 Okay. It's coming up. It's coming up on a different screen.
14:16:52 Okay.
14:16:53 So let me. I have to change the screen. I'm sharing.
14:16:57 You'll have to stop, share, and reshare.
14:16:58 Okay.
14:17:00 Alright, then it gives you a choice oh, yeah, that happened to me, too.
14:17:06 But when you have multiple screens you never know where it's gonna pop up.
14:17:08 Okay, here we go.
14:17:21 I about my intern whole thing, no apologies necessary. Oh!
14:17:23 Okay, what are you? Are you seeing the presentation? Now?
14:17:28 We're now we're seeing 2 slides, one tiny one with a note field.
14:17:37 Oh, I see!
14:17:34 Yeah, we're yeah. This is for the presenter to have their little notes.
14:17:46 You should have just taken it the way you had it the first time.
14:17:49 All right. Let me see, I'm gonna close this.
14:17:54 Oh, go into display settings! There!
14:18:04 We won't be able to see her now. Hey, Sarah!
14:18:07 Alternatively, you could email the presentation to me, and I can.
14:18:10 Nope! You got it! Oh, nice!
14:18:15 We can hear you just fine.
14:18:12 Okay. And can you hear me? Okay? Oh, great. Okay. So these are technical difficulties.
14:18:23 And thank you for sharing your afternoon with me today, and I'm here.
14:18:26 One out there. We can't see you at this point, and that's okay.
14:18:31 If you, if that's what you're.
14:18:32 Okay.
14:18:31 Yeah, you don't need to see me, and then I'll pop back on after I'm done.
14:18:36 Okay.
14:18:39 So I'm here to speak with you today regarding the human resources work plan for 2,000 twenty-free, as you know, counties are a critical element in our country system of federal,
State and local governments, counties fulfill a vast range of responsibilities and deliver services that touch nearly
14:18:58 every aspect of our residents lives as public servants, county, and employees have very important jobs and service to the residents of Jefferson County.
14:19:15 Jefferson County is comprised of 19 departments and approximately 370.
14:19:22 One employees. The work employees do directly impacts the quality of life of county residents.
14:19:31 Among other activities, our employees are responsible for elections, vehicles, and vessel licenses, transportation and infrastructure, community and environmental health.
14:19:42 Justice and public safety, recreation and plants, tax collection, property, assessment and planning and committing.
14:19:51 County employees take pride in their responsibilities to protect and enhance the health and wealth of of our community, and assessment and process actively.
14:20:05 The mission, acting and resources is to support the role of the administration of county government as well as the support, the well-being of our employees.
14:20:14 Human Resource, work, includes talent, acquisition, and management.
14:20:18 Have your development performance management, compensation benefits, labor relations, training and development, risk management, legal compliance and organizational development.
14:20:34 Before looking at the word plan, for 2023.
14:20:37 Let's review our 2,022 milestones.
14:20:43 In 2,022, with an all new staff of 2 human resources, professional, we learn to do our new jobs.
14:20:53 We successfully implemented the human capital management element of our new Erp unus enhanced onboarding for new employees with a focus on respect in the workplace, and in fact,
we onboarded 77 new employees that were hired in 2,022 completed
14:21:13 bargaining of 2 Union contacts in 2,022, implemented a commercial driver.
14:21:19 License Training program and initiated Hr. Round table meetings with the Pb.
14:21:26 And the city of Port Townsend.
14:21:31 The human Resources work plan for 2,023 includes modeling the Hr values of respects, integrity, kindness, collaboration, and service, working with the payroll team to implement
newness employee self-service which will impact every employee in county update the personal administration
14:21:56 manual bargain for union contracts and update the human resources.
14:22:01 Wednesday.
14:22:04 In the future. The goal is to expand human resources and employee engagement and recognition, training and development, strategic alignment and leadership, development.
14:22:17 What would we mean for this expansion to happen?
14:22:27 A staffing analysis of comparable counties recently conducted, comparing the number of employees to the number of dedicated human professional human resources, Staff indicated
that the county labs, in the number of human resources staff to the number of our employees so if you can see on this chart the total number
14:22:56 Okay.
14:22:50 of employees does rain depending on the nature of the county and the residence in the county.
14:23:00 And also the number of human resources staff dedicated.
14:23:07 They need to those accounts traditionally, the guiding principle was that there was one human resources, professional to every 100 employees.
14:23:18 However, those numbers are changing, and currently it's looking like it's one Hr.
14:23:25 Professional for every 50 to 75 employees, I would say the range is probably somewhere between one to one human resource, professional for every 75 to 100 employees, depending
on the nature of the work, and how?
14:23:50 Hi! Look forward to 2,023, and opportunities and challenges.
14:23:55 It's start to bring. And are there any questions for me?
14:24:00 Yeah, Commissioners, like I, in addition to this, there's a massive amount of routine ongoing into our work that Sarah and Kristen accomplished.
14:24:11 Julie a high quality crew, even though we only have 2 of them.
14:24:18 Questions. Sarah, is there. Do you have a recommendation in terms of what we do to grow? Our Hr. Department?
14:24:24 Sarah, I mean, I see that there are. There's a wide range of numbers per 100.
14:24:30 There!
14:24:31 Well, what that showed was that even if we had one more additional, what it showed was that to me the average of those comparable counties, we would need 2 additional Hr.
14:24:44 Staff, one additional staff would really be an amazing gift and a help to the 2 professionals who you have working for.
14:24:56 You, and also to fold this back into the county employees, because that's really who this impacts.
14:25:06 Every day we receive calls of interpretation for personal policies, for the labor contract folks coming in, just needing somebody to talk to, providing counsel to our leaders
at director level manager level, and so just to provide more capacity more recognition for all of that for our for our employees.
14:25:33 So sorry if if you, if we added, say another person, how would you like?
14:25:44 What are the? What are the top? 3 things that you would have them work on?
14:25:47 I mean, how would you? How would you divide out a PC or pi to give to that that person or person's?
14:25:55 What are? What are the things that aren't getting done, or need more attention?
14:26:02 What?
14:26:05 On the risk side. Everything is getting done. What needs more tension is employee engagement and recognition.
14:26:15 The way with an additional person, the duties would be split up, would be on the risk, management, and labor negotiations.
14:26:23 As an assistant, in that field to what I do so risk being safety, labor, and industries.
14:26:35 Osha reporting, Eeo for reporting sick in medical leave, and then the other arm of that which is really being taken care of.
14:26:47 Now has to do with the recruiting side and jobs and classification.
14:26:54 Great. Thank you.
14:27:00 Questions. Let's see. I was. I wasn't prepared to like I didn't know it.
14:27:08 This is what we were gonna be talking about today. So I I'm a little just concerned that like, yeah, we we get some.
14:27:17 Criticism are concerned that, like asks come to us and kind of an unorganized fashion.
14:27:23 And and you know, I think your department is different, Sarah, cause you can fall within our office.
14:27:28 But so I'm not sure how we should consider at this point in our budget request for add of staff, since we're not thinking kind of, you know, about.
14:27:39 Yeah, well, my intention here was to provide information and to let you know that you know we and I will carry on as we are staffed.
14:27:51 And if we want to move in the future, if there's an opportunity for that kind of a discussion, at least.
14:27:57 Now we have a foundation from which to have that discussion.
14:28:02 I mean, maybe it's even planning for next year.
14:28:04 I was like, oh, really good to start thinking about, you know.
14:28:08 The next round. Yeah, yeah. And I think to the you know, speaking about the a lot of retirements upcoming.
14:28:18 And the need to attack and retain employees longer term.
14:28:24 I would love to add that to the list of needs from Hr.
14:28:28 That I imagine you guys just scramble to keep.
14:28:31 Yeah, and it's really great. Like, we have, like in terms of employees who have been here long term and who we will be seeing retirements.
14:28:39 We have 4 employees who have more than 35 years of service, which to me is just remarkable in terms of institutional knowledge and history and dedication, and we have 14 employees
who've been here for more than 30 years and will be seeing retirements probably in the
14:28:59 next 2, 3 years for most of these folks, which will impact the county as a whole, and many of our different departments.
14:29:08 Yeah. Yeah, Commissioners will be entering into a budget formulation cycle here in the next few months.
14:29:16 And this can be part of that conversation.
14:29:22 Yeah, I'm not. I'm wasn't pretty for an right, either.
14:29:27 So it's it's good to know good to know the needs and the competitions and appreciate a deep dive into this I guess one question I had for you.
14:29:37 Sarah, was. I'm under the impression, at least, that some of the larger departments public works, public health. Take some of that.
14:29:44 Hr. Load onto their staff inside departments. Can you talk about how that works as we filter down, some into some of the larger departments?
14:29:52 Yeah, so larger departments. Do you have one person, or maybe more, that are handling administrative work?
14:30:02 They are implementing the Hr processes that come from our office here, and they are completing a payroll form or their they're organizing leave of appence requests there so
that every department would have a person who is aware of what's going on with human resources in their department and this
14:30:30 is the same, not only for Jefferson County, but for all the other counties.
14:30:37 For example, with public works, did have, and Jefferson County did have, a dedicated human resource person, and then they funded half of the position we have here in in our
office now.
14:30:55 And do you think more organizations are going like to a more central model?
14:31:00 Is that I mean, it seems like the the path that you're kind of laying out here for us.
14:31:05 Well, I think that some there's some kind of balance to be achieved that I don't think it's all one thing or another, because I think that there does have to be awareness and
some kind of control at a department level and that's where that's where the balance is so for
14:31:22 example, a munist has the capability, and on the personal action side, for every department to enter in information about a new employee and I'm not sure if that should be decentralized,
and I would say no, because then there'd have to be a dedicated person in every department being understanding
14:31:45 Muness, and having kind of the controls of entering data into our database.
14:31:51 And doing it potentially different in different departments.
14:31:54 Yeah.
14:32:03 Right? Yeah. Nothing else for me. Thank you, Sarah. Thank you so much for your time.
14:32:07 Yeah, thank, you.
14:32:10 Of course.
14:32:09 Sarah, really, really interesting to dive deep.
14:32:14 Alright! We'll let you go.
14:32:17 Oh!
14:32:20 All right, so should we, we've got a couple of things in front of us.
14:32:28 We've got letters, we've got finishing up our work from this morning with the our programs.
14:32:34 Gosh! Oh, right washdot Yup! And the letters!
14:32:42 So we've got. Let's do a little, and I'm not, and actually don't know that we need to do a legislative Update this week, because it's so much.
14:32:52 It's changed since, you know, I don't have the most current update.
14:32:59 So I think, waiting till next week would be better on legislative, because I'll be John Olympia this week.
14:33:05 Oh, we haven't calendar it, either. An agreement on what our position is.
14:33:15 We don't. And we could make written comment up to the fifteenth on the Trust Exchange.
14:33:23 Yeah. The day Bob, the day one. We should review that today.
14:33:28 So and that's one of the 3 letters that we are 4 letters that we have to do.
14:33:34 So let's how about we start with Arpa.
14:33:36 And then we go to the letters, including what our strategy is for I'm Dnr.
14:33:40 And day, Bob, the calendaring after that which will be informed by that, and then hit hit watch dot last sure.
14:33:48 Yeah, just try to leave time for it at least half an hour.
14:33:53 You think not enough. We'll need that much time. But just be easy to go right up to 4, 30, and then, okay, great.
14:34:00 So let's start on our.
14:34:05 Thanks, Caroline, for your work. Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha.
14:34:13 Well, you know I can just put the word, Doc, that collated what we have up on the zoom screen share projects that we're not funded.
14:34:27 So if you're looking to.
14:34:32 I don't know what your intent is this afternoon.
14:34:35 To confirm what you've already done, or.
14:34:43 Allow us to massage the final dollars. It's hard to come compare and contrast when they're alphabetical.
14:34:49 Do you mind stopping your share, and allowing me to share?
14:34:53 Okay. If you don't redistribute, I'll just.
14:34:58 Enter the new numbers.
14:35:01 So here we have it rank from in order of rank, with our dollars right?
14:35:12 I wasn't sure if, and spreading out.
14:35:19 Are you doing it for one project or letting public works decide right?
14:35:25 Then I, yeah, let's say, well, let's, I guess.
14:35:30 So this is what we decided right now. 100 k. For the early learning centers, seventh Haven with Minusca, Fiftyk for the plans for the commercial kitchen showers, 35 I'm just
reading out loud you don't need to read them any adjustments.
14:35:51 I guess that people see. No, I think something we should think about is what you know.
14:35:55 If somebody can't end up using these dollars, do we wanna have some?
14:36:00 A couple of contingent projects next on the list was Chimichan, which I think we have concerns about just cause.
14:36:04 It, you know, unless they don't have the full amount.
14:36:06 It's they don't have a project so what do we wanna consider? Search and rescue?
14:36:13 Yeah, search rescue. And Keswa brown as runners up, and then and then number 20.
14:36:21 The Merriston Island, so I mean, that would be a lot. That's a lot of money, though, I mean, I don't think where I come up with 200,000.
14:36:31 So we put in placeholder of.
14:36:35 40 for each of them. I mean, we could be $100,000.
14:36:39 It's not used.
14:36:43 I mean, really, what we do is we would come back and go to the same list.
14:36:48 Yeah, yeah, I think we should. You know. However, most, whatever action we take should include that.
14:36:53 Okay. And we will take public comment before we. I guess.
14:36:59 Take final action on this, too.
14:37:07 Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable with where we've landed on all these, though.
14:37:12 Yeah, I think it's a good mix. Did I draw it down?
14:37:17 It's pretty distributed. That district 2 is a little undersold, you know, on District Two's specific projects other than the Mason Street.
14:37:26 Boat, building, oh, both Billing, you're right. There. Yeah, there's 2 big ones.
14:37:30 Yeah, elaborate, all of us. But yeah, that's true.
14:37:31 Okay, that feels like somehow didn't I'm on the libraries in Hadlock.
14:37:38 Yeah, it's true. Got marine trades of 15. Yep.
14:37:44 Okay. So I guess the motion could be to per contracts as as indicated on marks spreadsheet, which is the same as this with the with what our the backup is or some, if an agency
can't use the money granted alright, how's your process gonna
14:38:08 be, to review.
14:38:13 That's well. Yes, everything's depending on us actually receiving the money.
14:38:18 But it's looking pretty good right now, isn't it?
14:38:21 Yes, yeah. I wonder if we should remove the chimneycom project and just say that it.
14:38:32 I'm really.
14:38:35 Is outside the scope of the ask.
14:38:44 I mean, otherwise, we're like, you know, just thinking of making a motion.
14:38:49 It's like items. Well through 18, with the exception of 17 and maybe at 19 and 20.
14:38:56 Right. Well, what do you think about that? Heidi?
14:39:04 I'm fine with the motion that funds items.
14:39:08 One through 18, minus 17, I mean we're referring to this document in the motion right?
14:39:16 Yeah.
14:39:27 Feels like it's looking for a process. If we come back to this, you know, we're gonna.
14:39:35 Do you have it there? In word? Greg, yeah.
14:39:39 And we could move that to the bottom and just say, you know, make a note of.
14:39:47 Removing, that.
14:39:50 Hmm, and skills with church and word, yeah, it's not fun.
14:40:05 To hover over on the left. There might be an add, Yeah.
14:40:09 That's all. Plus.
14:40:11 There you go. Okay.
14:40:19 So I'll make a motion that we approve our ranked last call.
14:40:27 Arpa funding requests as indicated number one through sorry scrolling down. And I wanna correct the numbering them. Is that too much to ask?
14:40:48 But it's there's a bunch of duplicate numbers above right then they skip like there's 3 12, so maybe we can.
14:40:57 We just renew the list.
14:41:10 How is that like to say like your, or, you know, instead of 2 2, anyway, I think we can still say number one through 17 on our ranked last call list?
14:41:26 And if if there is additional funding available we will continue to move down the list.
14:41:37 Okay? Contingent upon receipt of less tranche of our performance.
14:41:42 Okay. I'm happy to second that motion. Okay, spend a move.
14:41:48 And seconded to approve these first 17 ish projects.
14:41:52 Couple numbers. I'm not sure if it's exactly 17.
14:41:55 Okay, as presented today with the requests as filled in here.
14:42:03 Before we take final action we'll open it up to the public love to hear from you if you're in the attendees, and would like to comment on this particular agenda item, we would
love to hear from you you can click the raise hand, button, or if you're on your phone you can click star
14:42:18 9. Type star 9. To raise your hand, and we will bring you over for a 3Â min public comment period.
14:42:32 Okay, seeing no public comments, I will. I will call the question all in favor of aving the funding requests as presented here indicate by saying, Hi, hi!
14:42:43 That motion passes, and, thanks to all the applicants, all of these projects are truly worthwhile.
14:42:50 We hope they all get done. I hope they all get done.
14:42:54 Limited resources, and all that.
14:42:58 Okay. That done, we're gonna move on to the letters.
14:43:05 So we have 4 letters to consider. Maybe we can share them on the screen as we go through. You.
14:43:13 Wanna start? Do you have the the one for the the aquatic center?
14:43:20 Let me see, I think I closed it, but I have it here.
14:43:24 I I can share my screen healthier together, list!
14:43:31 So I was reviewing the letters, I noticed one of them was from Greg.
14:43:35 And yeah, I have a modification of that one to make it from okay. So I was reviewing the letters.
14:43:42 I noticed one of them was from Greg and yeah, I have a modification of that one to make it from. Okay they were. They didn't think that they had enough time to get it in front
of me.
14:43:50 I noticed one of them was from Greg, and yeah, I have a modification of that one to make it.
14:43:55 And then, okay, not saved. It's from the board or professioners. I just put it on Heidi letterhead I had never had that conversation with you also that I should check it.
14:44:07 Yeah, so, and I assume, is there going to be another similar request?
14:44:12 For can't well directed dollars I don't know, you know.
14:44:17 There's some, all 3 take them. Actually, the house side is hung up still they have not released their so yes, and I've not heard if the city plan to submit this to can't well
as well.
14:44:32 This is much more in Marie's Valley wake up committees and such right!
14:44:38 I think that's why was submitted to her, or, yeah will be submitted to her. I'm just gonna move forward so everyone can.
14:45:01 Yeah, are we gonna do one call? Yeah? So we'll do any editing.
14:45:07 We have to the letters and make one motion at the end.
14:45:10 Is that all right? Sure, we might wanna do separate motion. But we'll come in Page. We'll just do public comment period before to do the motion.
14:45:22 I guess. Okay, I have no problems. With this fully support above it.
14:45:26 Yeah, I'm happy to make a motion that we send a letter to Senator Patrick.
14:45:31 Patty Murray, in support of the city of Port Townsend's request for 1 million dollars for the Aquatics.
14:45:38 Facility, it's gonna get together. So we can only have one motion on the table at a time. Well, we'll just take multiple public comments.
14:45:53 Okay, there's only we don't have a lot of public with us. Okay, I'll second.
14:45:56 Okay, it's been moved and seconded to send this letter that we just had up on.
14:45:56 I will! Make a call for public comment. If anyone with us would like to comment on this letter and our intention to send it we'd love to hear from you and hit raise hand or
Star 9.
14:46:08 If you're on your phone, seeing no public, I will close public comment on and call the question all in favor of sending the letter as as presented, indicate by saying, aye,
bye, okay, that motion passes on to the next one. I'll share this one too.
14:46:29 Hello, me! I'd love to get this into the city.
14:46:34 Yes, please.
14:46:46 Hope so sorry. I meant to open a different one.
14:46:50 Let me stop. I wanna open the right one. Wanna just do, the Congressional directed, spending.
14:47:01 And I do have another one that's essentially identical for.
14:47:10 Can't. Well!
14:47:12 Okay.
14:47:14 So this was modified a little bit, just to change what you noted.
14:47:21 Heidi the I, and to make it for all of us.
14:47:28 And I have read this one as well. Any questions on this letter.
14:47:33 Sorry I was just getting this off to staff.
14:47:42 So this is even, said Marie and Catalon, that we have a separate one to consider that we can always go to. But I haven't edited yet, but that's not due for another couple of
weeks, so I thought I would just bring this one now.
14:47:55 And it's a good time. Afternoon. Good! It's essentially the same letter I can show it to you and see.
14:48:05 No, it's the same. I know it. Oh, yeah, we can do both at once.
14:48:08 If it's the same letter.
14:48:14 I haven't compared, but we could send the same one to both.
14:48:17 Ensure it would be just.
14:48:25 Looks great. I will move to approve the letter of support to our senators for the mason Pud.
14:48:36 One broadband project. Happy to second that. Okay, I'm on open for public comment.
14:48:44 If anyone would like to make public comment about this letter of support for Mason Pd ones, application for Congressionally directed Spending.
14:48:52 Please click, raise hand. We got one. Let's bring Jean on over.
14:49:08 Am I there?
14:49:08 Yes, we got here. That's Paul.
14:49:11 Hi yay! Broadband can't come soon enough. I had a couple of zeros.
14:49:17 Thank you very much.
14:49:17 Okay, thanks much. I will say this one really, for electrical they're gonna build another substation.
14:49:24 Oh, sorry! I thought I saw the word broadband. I think it was power no, this one's a substation, so it will create electrical redundancy, and it will keep breaks down for or
Brandon residents.
14:49:39 If they get supported. Yeah, I am in my month. Yes, please. Okay. So move that we approve a letter going to both Senators, a Federal appropriation for Mason.
14:49:50 Pud, one electrical.
14:49:53 Substation. I'm happy to second that. Okay, just I'll open it up for public comment.
14:50:02 One more time case anyone else wants to comment or change their support.
14:50:08 So part and parcel of the same. Okay, see no other.
14:50:13 Alright!
14:50:16 I threw her off too. Hey, Jane, sorry we LED you astray with with our motion.
14:50:23 But thanks for yeah.
14:50:22 Right, see? That's what happens when you don't have broadband, and you can't see what's going on.
14:50:26 You could just hear if you're lucky the same sentiment applies, for, electricity, you know, every time a tree falls down here we lose Fraser folded, so any redundancy you can
support.
14:50:40 I can support that. So thank you.
14:50:42 Thank you very much. Okay. Great Zain. No other public comment.
14:50:48 I will close public comment and call the question all in favor of sending this letter of support for Mason. Pv. One's substation request to both Senators congressionally directed
spending programs. Indicate by saying, I Hi, Hi, I will send that to Julie.
14:51:10 And as soon as we're done with all the yeah, that would be great.
14:51:25 Oh, I don't know a lot about this. Hmm!
14:51:30 I have a meeting or 2, but you can bring it up so we can look through it.
14:51:34 Just read through it first.
14:52:12 Scroll down. Oh, yeah. Sorry.
14:52:27 Okay.
14:52:29 Do we have any idea where the community is?
14:52:35 On this project we were. I've had a couple conversations with Monty about this, and I met with Goss and the engineer down closely a couple of months ago.
14:52:44 As I said earlier, there there was a different route to this.
14:52:49 Originally that there was some consternation about and would impact some houses.
14:52:54 This one is not going to impact. As far as I know, anyone's house.
14:52:56 You know we are, of course, engaged in a decades-long effort to purchase some of the really threatened houses inside the flood flood plain, but working on that, removing the
south of South J.
14:53:11 Right sounds. The north levy will really help those systems down there this is gonna be a net.
14:53:18 Add, there will be more community outreach going forward as they go through.
14:53:22 I mean, I don't think they're even submitted this to the county, for that started that permit process.
14:53:30 So I have not been any public meetings down South where this was discussed, but I have not heard any any objection to it, and I know that there you know, they're working along
with county and quilting folks about allowing on the bridge one of the kiosks will go
14:53:50 they have extra wide shoulders for pedestrians on the bridge, as well.
14:53:53 So I think it's is really being made with an effort to increase the you know.
14:53:59 Open up the channel of the headwaters of the big quill scen actually as help in the in some of the flooding that happens down there and preserving all of the infrastructure
as it is right now, so I just don't I'm not aware of what I could be wrong.
14:54:15 But I can't imagine too much objections.
14:54:22 10 times longer!
14:54:25 Yeah, it doesn't go that much higher. Actually, it's really just a a big spam.
14:54:33 Okay. I will move to approve the letter of support for lower-bid Quilc and Riverscape Restoration Project to the Raise program.
14:54:42 Happy to second that. Okay, before we take a vote on this, I'll open this up to the public.
14:54:48 Anyone that would like to make public comment on our signing this letter of support for the big lower, big, quizzing Riverscape Restoration project.
14:54:57 You can click, raise hand or star 9 if you're on the phone. If you'd like to make a comment.
14:55:04 One more call for anyone that wants to make public comment all right, seeing none.
14:55:09 I will call the question all in favor of sending off this letter of support from the Board of County Commissioners for the the raise application for the lower Big Quilson River
Scape Restoration project.
14:55:21 Indicate by saying, Hi! Hi hi!
14:55:26 Yes.
14:55:30 And then the final one.
14:55:34 Is the draft letter of support, and this is the one I'm most uncertain on.
14:55:42 I have to admit. But so this needs to be in by March fifteenth, so we don't absolutely have to do this.
14:55:52 But this will awesome also dovetails with the the hearing tomorrow, and whether what our position should be.
14:55:59 Are you gonna share it? Oh, I can share it.
14:56:04 And how does this differ from the letter of support that you all wrote initially for this project?
14:56:10 You were with us. No. 21. Was it 21?
14:56:15 Sorry I was with you. I thought it was earlier than that.
14:56:20 It's been going on for a while.
14:56:32 Well, I you know we it doesn't change. It's not significantly different.
14:56:37 I mean, the only issue is I have the all 826 acres.
14:56:42 I'm not sure if they're all really in the day.
14:56:44 Bob area of the map I got from Winslow today.
14:56:49 Kind of indicated, like partial a is that in the natural area.
14:56:54 I'm not sure I can. You show us the map? Yeah.
14:56:58 Is that in our invitation the invitation that we received today from Winslow, I was wrong.
14:57:04 I was just, I thought I had gotten an email. But it was just that.
14:57:09 I haven't looked at it yet.
14:57:11 He sent a proposal brief. So the parcels are.
14:57:18 This is so, this is an intertrust exchange. Right?
14:57:21 So changing state, board, trust, Common school so they can do the Trust land transfer.
14:57:26 This is the first step that they're redoing again.
14:57:28 There's not enough. The are. The State Board stuff is Aa through H, and then the common school is what was would be traded for.
14:57:37 Oh, I'm fine! I thought it was.
14:57:46 So go back. And so a through H. Here are the cool, the State Trust parcels that were, yeah, that's right.
14:58:00 Yeah, about trading for the common schools here.
14:58:07 3,084 acres.
14:58:16 There's a more specific. So I mean, but you can see the common school lands are in blue.
14:58:25 No, no, no! Right opposite. You're right. You're right.
14:58:29 So we're talking about taking the blue lands and trading for the red Lands.
14:58:35 So you know that one off the center and I mean but I don't think it's definite which of these it's gonna go for? What is definite is that there is not enough in the common school
in the impacted school and fire districts.
14:58:52 Likely, you know, and as this letter that we're considering putting our name to, they would not be able to harvest much, or all of that, in any event, so you know, something's
better than nothing right.
14:59:05 So that's that's where it is. This is, goes into a little quicker, like specifically parcel a is that in the natural area I don't know yeah, it's in the proposed expansion.
14:59:15 I think.
14:59:22 If all of this is what I would agree to. But I'm although parcel a will, as I remember, it would likely not be much harvestable acres because of its braided stream.
14:59:35 That's like a watershed. If you looked at the riparian map of that parcel.
14:59:40 Yeah, no, I that's one thing I do remember about personally.
14:59:47 Yeah, sorry. I'm just saying this again for the first time in a long time.
14:59:56 Let's see, these are the parcel maps they're talking about up north.
15:00:04 Try to tell geography there, but go back and look.
15:00:17 Going back to the full map.
15:00:22 So I can say one thing about the in the big picture, the overall Exchange, a number of the common school parcels.
15:00:34 That is, are being proposed for exchange are north of 10.
15:00:37 4? Those would become county force board lands. Those are. That's the area that in our conversations with Chickadee and Dnr, we've been talking about more of a co-management
strategy or we conveyance of those parcels.
15:00:53 So that would make that easier for us in the long term.
15:00:58 Just for clarification. That would be so. Taking this like Cs, 1, 2, 3, 15, first, they'd be switched for stay.
15:01:08 Sorry.
15:01:12 Yeah, okay. And then, of course, that doesn't limit like ongoing revenue from them.
15:01:17 So. But those areas are all adjacent to our proximal to residential areas.
15:01:24 And you know this is less of an area that Dnr.
15:01:27 Is doing timber, harvests. They've been sitting there for decades on harvested, you know.
15:01:33 There's a lot of compounding reasons why this this makes sense in terms of, or the one if 104 makes sense in terms of county management in the future.
15:01:50 So that this proposal does achieve some of that objective.
15:01:58 The exchange. But why would they not be reduced?
15:02:02 Revenue. Well, they're not being harvested now, like the Jacob Miller parcel the long skinny up here is that 80 acres on Jacob Miller.
15:02:09 This is the Cape George parcels but I'm just curious what, Greg, you said they would not be able to generate great revenue.
15:02:19 Well, when we're I mean when we're talking about the trade that we're making and the expectation of revenue and kind of being predicated.
15:02:30 We convey them. We're talking about a small amount of revenue, some revenue, but you know it's it's more about.
15:02:38 Triple bottom line and a little bit of revenue and and I don't know it.
15:02:44 Just it kind of changes. The arithmetic of the trust land transfer a little bit because.
15:02:50 It doesn't add anything necessarily, it doesn't add the commiser amounts as we're potentially losing, though it's true that they're encumbered lands.
15:03:01 We're training, too. Right? So well, in their common school, which means our local test texting districts get very little from them.
15:03:10 Currently what we're talking about right now is intertrust, exchange.
15:03:13 Right. So taking the blue ones that are in the natural area, and it's taking turning those red and then turning the red ones blue.
15:03:22 So? Wouldn't that be better for us? Because isn't common school?
15:03:26 Go to the State. Yes, so if those were turned blue they could be. Could they?
15:03:34 Couldn't that then be more local? Yes, that's one possible outcome.
15:03:38 They would, either, but I mean they don't go to the same junior taxi districts that the Trust is coming from. Of course they don't go to the same fire, and.
15:03:48 And you'll notice there are more polygons marked in red than there are in blue.
15:03:54 Yes, so these are options for the exchange. We don't need all the acres of red.
15:04:00 To exchange for all the acres of blue the Fire district supported this in 21, as we did the Quilting fire districts, and I asked them this time their staying neutral they're
not opposing it.
15:04:12 They're not they're kind of just gonna see what happens.
15:04:14 It's as I mean, it's really hard. This is a very cloudy crystal ball to see what exactly will happen downstream from this right?
15:04:22 Hmm!
15:04:25 Some of these polygons in blue are the forests. They're marrying Ryan's house. You can't go to lock. Then. Yep.
15:04:33 Those 4 connected ones. Right? Would that? Cs, 13, are you talking about expanding the natural area that far?
15:04:48 I believe that was one in an earlier letter that we said Don't do it here.
15:04:51 Great. I think there were a few. The common school that were inside the natural area.
15:04:56 We've been potential expansion of the natural area.
15:04:58 We said, Stay away!
15:05:07 You, too, are. Gonna be a lot more informed on this than I am.
15:05:13 I I have no certainty about this. I have to say I'm just being frank about how I don't understand what.
15:05:21 Well, this just does a refresher. This is an existing.
15:05:25 The Legislature, already appropriated funding for this.
15:05:29 We've already had public meetings about this we're just doing it again because of someone time has left since our last public meeting.
15:05:39 This is something we've reviewed before, and this does further our without any preconception or pre-planning.
15:05:48 This does further the conversations we've been having with both Dnr.
15:05:52 And chickadee about our, you know, co-management or reconvenance of lands and would facilitate some of that work in the future.
15:06:02 I mean, I think it's I think this is a win.
15:06:06 I don't think that it's not. Yeah. Yeah.
15:06:13 I mean, because so many of these lands have been in limbo, as it is well, would it make sense to have you know one or more of you go to the hearing and then refer back next
week?
15:06:25 Well, we we did wanna talk about that cause. I think both Heidi and I have the intention to go.
15:06:30 Know if we have to make that an open public meeting. We have to.
15:06:33 If we're just there for listening and possibly making testimony, one or both of us might be testimony.
15:06:39 I did last time. Well, I could refrain from.
15:06:46 We're just listening. Or if just one of us is making testimony, we can agree on the testimony.
15:06:56 Yeah.
15:07:02 Okay.
15:07:05 Well, shall we go back and look at the letter? One more time? Just to kind of yeah.
15:07:10 Refine our position.
15:07:13 And Peter sent that. Peter sent this. Yes, okay, yeah. This was an updated one. Since February, one step behind myself.
15:07:33 One I sent in 21, and he sent all of us the previous communications that we had.
15:07:40 Yeah, only 21.
15:08:03 I mean, I think at least the testimony that I gave last time was, you know, supportive of this project, but really want to maintain the integrity of the junior taxing district
as well.
15:08:13 So support this as much as possible, and please make every effort to trade like for life.
15:08:20 And if that means trading less land, this is different than that and I'm not opposed to it.
15:08:27 But I'm just. I'm just unsure.
15:08:33 Oh! Since we have the time, I think it could be worthwhile to go to the hearing and hear both of public have to say would be willing to do that.
15:08:46 Yep, I don't think it will change the impact of the letter, getting it, sending it out next week.
15:08:51 And it won't change my support for the project. I mean.
15:08:57 I do not plan to attend. Okay, well, can we? Let's so we'll refine this and send it off next week, based on hearing and kind of that will react to the tenor.
15:09:08 But can we talk a little bit about who's gonna testify tomorrow?
15:09:12 And what kind of message we give, so we can speak with one voice on her.
15:09:16 I mean, I'm probably more jump up and down supportive of this than you.
15:09:23 I'm fairly supportive, too. I think it is a win-win.
15:09:28 I guess I just have.
15:09:30 I have concerns about. You know I'm all in 826 acres or nothing.
15:09:35 I guess I this gets more productivity to the junior taxing districts than not doing this, if you look at the exchanges.
15:09:50 Yeah, yeah, I mean, and that's just a fact.
15:09:53 Oh, that's but but a lot of them are. The Polygons are in.
15:09:58 Well can you support it? Still, that idea of trying to keep?
15:10:08 Okay, yeah. Okay. Well, I mean all. If you're I mean you suggested, I'll testify full fully in favor with with the caveat that we really emphasize.
15:10:26 You know, possible machinations down the line, but just keeping it pretty simple.
15:10:32 Yeah. That sounds good. Okay, great. So we'll come back to that one.
15:10:40 And both Heidi and I will attend, and I will be the representative of the vocc tomorrow.
15:10:43 Sounds to talk in public. How do you very well could get like called on, or you know, I think that's the this has been involved in.
15:10:53 Well, I'll just defer to Greg, yeah, I don't think I'm gonna get called on.
15:10:58 It's a gearing. Yeah, it's there were a lot of people last time.
15:11:03 Good and most in support. Okay, so calendaring, we were just doing that.
15:11:12 So shall we. That was all the letters. Right? Yep, okay.
15:11:16 So I do want to keep going on your calendar this week.
15:11:22 Okay.
15:11:25 Let's see.
15:11:28 Tomorrow I have a meeting of the State shoreline hearing board. Oh, your first one!
15:11:33 Well, no, this isn't the hearing but it's in preparation, for I'm actually.
15:11:38 And I sit in on one because Commissioner Gelder from Kittsap could not so I'm sitting in on July on the hearing if it gets called for a hearing.
15:11:47 So there's a lot of ifs between that happening and but I'm still in my kind of my onboarding process with them as well.
15:11:55 And I have a Community Foundation Board meeting and I'm gonna go to and Dean going away party and then I'm gonna attend the day. Bob.
15:12:06 Natural Area. Preserve expansion, public hearing, and then we have our window.
15:12:13 Wednesday. Jefferson County strategic planning session in the morning.
15:12:17 On Wednesday. I have a note to set a meeting with Duke.
15:12:22 Surelden Brenton Butler is Brent, doesn't you guys know Brent? Speak? Why was it?
15:12:29 Tell you the sixth or something. The first. Oh, okay, okay.
15:12:34 So about fire, fireworks, and had blocks. So Jta.
15:12:41 Finance committee meeting tomorrow or Wednesday. Sorry trust land transfer legislative circle the wagons on Thursday, just to say, See how our bills going that word last week
was, I probably will be going to Olympia again in the next week to testify again now
15:13:01 that that language has been firmed up Thursday. I have a Jefferson cohort of the Peninsula trails coalition meeting in the evening, Friday, I'm having lunch with councilmember
Thomas from the city, and then Friday afternoon I'm meeting with Mallory
15:13:21 and her.
15:13:24 Her Sawyer, they are pursuing a big grant to do some.
15:13:31 Some innovative forestry, in Jefferson and other counties, and they wanna tell me about it.
15:13:35 So that's exciting. Did you guys, did I?
15:13:41 Facebook, invite you to the Jeff plankton Horn Concert on Saturday at the Palindrome if I didn't, if I didn't, it's awesome slide guitar.
15:13:53 Okay, so that's Challenger on Saturday evening. Well, county business will be discussed.
15:13:58 Okay. Slide guitar. Only, anyway. That's on my calendar.
15:14:01 So, and then I'm also tonight I'm into an Olympic coast sanctuary planning, scoping, meeting, and that looks like it.
15:14:12 This week a lot of gaps to get stuff done, which is great, because the last 2 weeks have been kind of a train rack for me.
15:14:22 Yeah, some catching up to do. Don't go too hard.
15:14:29 You're still recovering I've heard about this rebound thing or relapse, or just for a second section.
15:14:35 Yeah, yeah, I'm just not looking forward to any of that.
15:14:41 Let's see. It's an Olympia week for me, so that always seems to peck things in tomorrow.
15:14:50 I have an Economic Development Council Finance Committee meeting in the morning, and I bet they will be announcing the good news about Nice and Dean's going way.
15:15:02 Party, my sister Randa guardian. I'd let him program here for many years.
15:15:06 No work will be done. That's right, nor discussed, and then have a port tensor power teams coalition meeting tomorrow afternoon on Wednesday.
15:15:18 Dr. Suzy Ames is going to be presenting at the Clown, BBC.
15:15:22 Attend that virtually. Just hear what they're up to have a regular meeting with Jefferson.
15:15:26 Health, care to talk about various community efforts. That'll be headed to Olympia for meeting Wednesday night with legislative steering committee and all day Thursday, right?
15:15:42 It? Our climate Change and Board of Health Subcommittee is meeting.
15:15:47 And I don't feel like I'm forgetting something on Friday.
15:15:51 Hmm, anyway, like Friday, and I had to see if do you need anything I need to.
15:16:00 Announce! Oh, mark you, and I need to connect about meeting with Michael Mark to try to get some organization around the Usda. Grant.
15:16:13 I think we've imposed Wednesday morning. Yeah, 9 30. Ish.
15:16:17 Yeah, I'll check that and if I can I'll put something on the calendar.
15:16:22 Great. Thank you.
15:16:26 And I think that's it. I I do. Wanna make sure we get a robust set of public health hero nominations.
15:16:34 So take a folks. I've got a couple lined up that I'm gonna do.
15:16:40 Yeah, that's my weekend, like we said, well, I am curious.
15:16:45 If we're gonna be reaching out to watch that.
15:16:47 But that's something we need to do soon. Yes.
15:16:53 Okay. Okay. See? Maro meeting with someone from Port Ludlow about that node of emergency using the Beach Club is kind of an emergency prep Hub.
15:17:08 I guess, and then I'm doing the Jefferson County Exit Conference for our audio.
15:17:18 Curious this is when they take care of, that complaint about me being on the old Cap board right.
15:17:24 Isn't that, really? Maybe we'll hear about that.
15:17:25 I don't know they haven't said a word about that.
15:17:29 That's strange. That's old news, and then, having lunch with Aaron Bird from the port, and then I will also be able to go down to Ann's going away party.
15:17:40 Then I have the first meeting of the Wasack Broadband Advisory Committee meeting, and then I will go to the Inter Trust.
15:17:49 Hearing at the quilting school at 6 Pm. On Tuesday evening, Wednesday I'll be mostly working on something I don't think I reported it, because I didn't get it to do calendaring
for the previous week.
15:18:01 But we had a really good meeting as a subcommittee of the Housing Fund Board.
15:18:06 With all of the housing providers about coordinated entry.
15:18:10 Did I talk about that? No, no. So really positive meeting, you know.
15:18:16 Only cap is our kind of our lead entity on that.
15:18:20 So the coordinated industry goes through them, but getting everyone on the same page, so this is, you know, it's work for everyone from holycap to make sure that training gets
distributed evenly to you know, Dove House that has a lot of different criteria for coordinated
15:18:35 entries because of the anonymity required from, you know, being a domestic violence, survivor to Bayside that has a lot of programs that are kind of, you know, pushing the onvelope
of what some of the commerce interprets for different sections so it's just there's a
15:18:52 lot of moving parts that need to get coordinated and really positive meeting with all those folks where everyone was just looking for solutions and looking to work together.
15:19:00 So that group is meeting on its own. We'll probably have an Advisory council to recommend, and our march tenth.
15:19:07 We're meeting again with a trainer from commerce to kind of take it to the next level.
15:19:11 So just feels like it's going really, productively.
15:19:13 So far, so working on that on Wednesday kind of.
15:19:22 And then community build is having an event that I'll go attend.
15:19:25 I think, a celebration of 30, 30 tiny shelters. Now.
15:19:31 So I'm really, really a lot of a lot of elbow grease has gone into building up that floor.
15:19:38 That, raising the floor of our social fabric, yeah, that's what I described earlier.
15:19:42 O 3 a meets on Thursday the Olympic Area Agency on Aging.
15:19:47 I have a agenda planning with Mark in the afternoon and the monthly Portlando Village Council meeting on Thursday oh, and I'll have a development meeting with only Cap on Wednesday
and starting to do the Holy Cap Pre development meetings for the the new shelter
15:20:05 that's that's moving along. And you know I'm trying to get hearings going and getting everything into place, anticipating that more, more of an aware to actually have a building
funds.
15:20:17 Then, I think, might be our final meeting with Huud on Friday, as part of the Housing America program.
15:20:22 The Jefferson County Check-in so I'll be doing that on Friday.
15:20:27 And then, as I say, scuba, diving with the local on the weekend, getting my dry suit certifications so you know, maybe I'll be surfing around here, too.
15:20:35 Once I can actually stay warm in the water. No, just surfing. There's a big surfing community in the.
15:20:43 And so, yeah, that's my week, Mark. We didn't really hear from you about last week, either.
15:20:50 You wanna do? A quick brief in calendaring right? Of course.
15:20:54 Tuesday, the 20 first, and we had a holiday on Monday.
15:20:58 So with the board all day. Wednesday. Budget committee meeting and okay, I share your concern about about re revenues, and hopefully they'll rebound.
15:21:11 And then our weekly strategic planning meeting. That was quite the meeting.
15:21:19 We had a number of documentation requirements, most notably of which was the stakeholder list, and we needed to provide a lot of documentation.
15:21:28 Our account, county financial reports, our budget, our comprehensive plan, and a number of other products that adial was able to put together.
15:21:41 And so you know that project is moving along smartly.
15:21:47 Then on Thursday.
15:21:52 We had to watch that meeting, and we had the exact session early at 9.
15:21:57 Then the Wash dot meeting on the bridge closures, and then at 110'clock we had the Usd.
15:22:08 A childcare discussion, and then agenda, planning with Greg at 1 31 on one with Josh Peters from Dcd.
15:22:15 One on one with Chris Goy. 30'clock.
15:22:18 Then I met with Judy Shepherd to go over funds available for, and then I met with Heidi to get ready for the fifth meeting that occurred on Friday morning at night.
15:22:29 30 pretty good meeting. We had 2 project reports and 0% complete on both.
15:22:41 So we'll have another meeting later in the year.
15:22:45 And so that poplars been cut down 0%.
15:22:59 With undergrounding the power so cutting on the trees and undergrounding the power. And then the port comes along and expands the boatyard. So you know it's they talked about
the order of business in the meeting, but they're timeline is slipped.
15:23:14 Yeah, and we'll be having the board. Extend those timelines later on this year.
15:23:20 And then we had another meeting with Monty, this time with Matt Stewart.
15:23:25 We're looking to restructure their grades for rose and solid waste and cause of their recruitment and retention challenges and so we'll be coming to the board with that.
15:23:38 So that you can approve us to move forward with it.
15:23:42 And then trust I, and transfer discussion. I was mostly a listener in on that with Tammy and Sarah Space, and lady, and was that it?
15:23:53 Yeah, I think that was it. So? Good meeting? Learn a lot.
15:24:00 So that was last week. Should I continue into this week? Yes, please.
15:24:03 Okay, today with you all tomorrow. Exit conference with the State Auditor and Greg.
15:24:11 Is that on your calendar? Okay, great board chair typically attends that 18 meeting in the afternoon.
15:24:19 And then the wonderful month March begins. Wednesday.
15:24:24 Another strategic planning meeting, and then we'll be meeting with Chris Coy to talk about the teamsters contract.
15:24:35 And then on Thursday, Carolyn and I are Gonna take a trip to camp, Bo site to evaluate the facilities there for our strategic planning border treat do we get to do the ropes
course?
15:24:48 I wanna do the ropes. Course? Well, we'll have to check it out. Okay, been a while since I've done something like that.
15:24:54 But it's a good good, you know. Gotta do some exercises to get the blood flowing and to get the, and then agenda planning at one-on-one with Chris in the afternoon, and then
Friday, just to what I'm on with apple and I might remind the
15:25:16 board that based on your approval of Arpa funding, we have 17 agreements to put together I have to amend the Pip agreement to extend the term of the fifth subsidy and increase
its 200,000 this year, and next that's it
15:25:36 from here busy week.
15:25:40 2 little things I wanna mentioned one, Carolyn reminded us that we have to talk about.
15:25:47 If we want to designate that public works funding for any particular project or not. But then also, I'd love to just touch base, real, quick on strategic planning the.
15:26:08 Would be nice if we could like, be really clear. And how we're communicating about it, so that little afraid of like people not understanding the difference between that and
the comprehensive plan when we go kind of to the public with that, and to our stakeholders, with that and my you know understanding
15:26:27 being the strategic planning is more inward, you know, but focused on kind of the county.
15:26:35 How the county functions, and and less about our our kind of vision for the county writ large for the next 20 years, which is the Count plan.
15:26:46 So just curious how you're approaching that, and how we don't kind of fatigue our stakeholders with planning processes, with the company coming up.
15:26:57 I just wanna be sure that that's a really robust process.
15:26:59 And do we distinguish between them with our stakeholders, to ensure that they are not talking about comprehensive planning at all?
15:27:09 And it's a very it's a much more diverse set of stakeholders.
15:27:11 Then we'd be involved in the complement process. I imagine and this is more diverse.
15:27:19 This. Yeah. Thanks. Alex, is about the entire account. This is more inward for internally focused, and a lot of our stakeholders are like people who sit on our boards.
15:27:35 They're already kind of in the family county family, in a way.
15:27:44 Or you know our public partners are also on.
15:27:49 It's not really as much of a like reach out to the citizen right?
15:27:54 Kind of an effort. So less about kind of community visioning.
15:28:00 But because that's what the plan should be. Strategic plan.
15:28:04 I think is the counties that we identified for very done of areas that we wanted them to seek input on.
15:28:19 There was 6, and they were, I mean, some of them may have may share rope with the conference of plan, but.
15:28:29 If anything, I think this effort will get people the prime of the homosexual.
15:28:34 Cause. We've been so quiet with everyone for 3 years and Covid Lockdown.
15:28:40 I think, starting some conversations with community.
15:28:45 Yeah, just so often people will be like, Oh, I didn't get about the next, I commented on that last year, and it's like totally different things. But they don't know that you
know.
15:28:54 I don't view this as a duplicate effort in any way.
15:29:07 I think we're talking about values and emphasis areas.
15:29:13 I mean what is is a comprehensive plan and talk about law enforcement I mean, there are things the county does that the governmentrehensive plan doesn't doesn't touch.
15:29:24 So, how about if?
15:29:29 I share some materials with, and it was definitely our plan to bring you guys an update.
15:29:34 Once we had I mean, we're just kinda like getting all the information in in the bucket right now and then.
15:29:40 When when I don't know if we can have Barry done, help us identify a good, a good time for the first update to our board.
15:29:46 That would be a good thing to get on the calendar.
15:29:49 Mark, I'm sorry again, having very done schedule and update with our with the board, the county Commissioners when we're ready.
15:29:59 Like what the for I don't know when the first juncture will be when there'll be a good opportunity for another update. But I know we're gonna send a survey out.
15:30:06 That's a big part of the the list of 300 people.
15:30:08 A lot of them are not expected to have one on one.
15:30:11 Our focus group meetings as part of the strategic planning process.
15:30:16 That's a complete survey or surveys.
15:30:23 Great. Yeah, I would just love if we keep that lens in mind of like the had a not conflated with that count plan, knowing that the public won't necessarily understand that,
you know.
15:30:38 Okay. Well, and Brent slash Josh are on the Strategic Planning Committee.
15:30:44 So we can tune them to being the keepers of the of that mantle.
15:30:56 Okay, maybe we should do a little bit. We got an hour left, you know.
15:31:01 We got a good chunk of time on Washdot anything else that people wanted to discuss today that public works, our phone.
15:31:07 I feel like in the ranking that we did.
15:31:10 It was just one project, so I would say, Yeah, and that will make the residents down there happy to to know that there's some commitment committing them to a project that isn't
really ready for time.
15:31:28 Time. Yeah, I mean, sometimes these projects take a little while. See?
15:31:32 Quilting, complete streets. It won't take that long.
15:31:34 So, you know, I mean, but they don't have another funding source for it.
15:31:39 Well!
15:31:42 So we're pushing, you know, something into the tab.
15:31:46 I just I wonder if maybe just a conversation with Eric and Monty's out of town this week.
15:31:52 Certainly. All. Yeah, that would inform it. But you know the board allocated a 100 grand for this project.
15:31:58 You had what? 3 requests? Oh, yeah, but 200,000 was this for how ready are you to do this work?
15:32:08 Good point. Thank you. I'll talk a little bit about Kptz and a little bit about a suggestion we had for Bocc meetings, but those won't take long, I think, washed out more time
critical.
15:32:22 So anything else.
15:32:25 I don't have anything else. My desire is to strike while the iron is hot, coming off.
15:32:36 Our special meeting, and knowing that they are on it. Short timeframe, I'm wondering if we wanna put in one last plug for communicating with them.
15:32:46 Yeah, I think that the time sensitive part would especially be if we're really advocating for a different set of dates.
15:32:52 Which I don't see any risk in doing that.
15:32:59 You know, we know that they're gonna be impacts.
15:33:02 Regardless, but it it seems to me that the June dates would be less impactful.
15:33:09 So I'm curious if we wanna send them a strongly worded letter soon on that.
15:33:16 And also any other kind of mitigation for ideas we want to talk about including fairies. I mean, we.
15:33:20 We can ask about ferry. I don't think we're gonna get anything.
15:33:24 I am curious about. They seem like it was a hard know about sharing the burden of weekdays and weekends, and I don't know.
15:33:34 It seemed pretty clear they weren't interested in that, but it like their own charts that they showed us showed us that there's more traffic on the weekends, and that's a more
delicate part of our infrastructure in the summer.
15:33:49 I would say so. I guess that's something else I'd consider putting on that letter is, you know, we could take.
15:33:55 We would rather have fewer interruptions that that impact boasts weekday and the weekend more more equitably, and June would be.
15:34:07 Much less impact, I mean, I've been getting a bunch of independent.
15:34:13 Input about the June timing from people as well. So I can just pro, yeah, why are you believe?
15:34:20 Okay? So I can. Hi that one for sure. And then the other thing that I ask them. I think Thursday.
15:34:29 If you're gonna do these blocks of time, morning and evening each day. And we have input into what those blocks of time could be.
15:34:43 7? What fortieth? Very Kingston to go to the farmers market every Saturday, and you know they get on a certain prairie to come home.
15:34:52 So it's just if we could have input into the time time blocks that they're thinking about.
15:34:58 That would be another. If that's the that's the solution.
15:35:01 There and staying, you know, keeping the bridge work out of the same timeline as the fish barrier.
15:35:13 Work, because I mean, that's a good restricted timeline.
15:35:17 So just avoiding that, since you know you are, I believe if there was fish barrier work on one, on one on.
15:35:27 On, one on one just north of Quilson, and the bridge work going on simultaneously.
15:35:32 I don't think there's any route for a big truck.
15:35:34 They can't. They can't go over that bridge to go up Center Road from one on one south.
15:35:41 Yeah, because of the weight restrictions. And I do. They even know that I don't know right?
15:35:47 And another idea, I've heard is put in putting a second ferry on Port Townsend for whatever time period it is, so that we can get a flush of people at in and out of Port Townsend,
cause that's a one way around to the other side.
15:36:02 Yeah, yeah, pretty much. We'll talk to the ferry people.
15:36:06 But yeah, maybe for a month I don't know. Yeah.
15:36:10 Some ideas, too.
15:36:15 So how do we wanna do this? Since we're not gonna be in session again of this week?
15:36:28 Okay.
15:36:30 That's true, Carlyn we say we're gonna write a letter to Washdot with these points.
15:36:37 Can we approve that? Or do we need to have the actual letter written to approve?
15:36:43 The past? Is this?
15:36:59 Yeah, I mean, I'm around tomorrow, the same thing and take a last look so we can get it done.
15:37:06 I'm here, too. Great. Okay? So shall I do a draft.
15:37:12 Get it tomorrow. Yeah. Okay, then we'll make a motion and take public comment.
15:37:18 And we might wanna reach.
15:37:22 And see if we want do we wanna say all of them?
15:37:25 We've got lots of points on there, do we? Wanna?
15:37:30 Might be good too, and I just wanna make sure we don't any other.
15:37:36 So what a creative community we are.
15:37:47 How's the last time in the video? Right? I did think, she's reiterating.
15:37:54 She flex yeah, for was instant management team, really what he's really asking to see for.
15:38:06 And after that meeting he said it would be, yeah.
15:38:12 Can do independently.
15:38:18 They wouldn't even be appropriate people, but they need to participate. Yeah.
15:38:22 And and they said they work for it. But the ask should just be participation.
15:38:27 Incident, man.
15:38:34 I feel silly making a I'm not authorizing myself so I'm happy to make a motion.
15:38:42 I would like to make a motion authorizing Commissioner Dean to draft a letter to the Washington State Department of Transportation regarding their proposed closures of the Hood
Canal Bridge on weekends at the last weekend of July and 3 weekends in
15:38:57 August we had a meeting with a number of.
15:39:01 So that shouldn't be the motion.
15:39:05 Hold on! I don't look at I'm making a motion like Commissioner Dean drafts a letter to the Washington State Department of Transportation with Alternatives.
15:39:16 Alternative proposals to their proposed schedule of closures in August to the canal bridge, and she will work with Mark Mccauley for that letter, and we will review it bye.
Mark.
15:39:36 Yeah, I'll second that.
15:39:37 But let's talk about the points that we wanna highlight one more time.
15:39:40 Just the specific things that they want before, and I'll talk a couple of comments.
15:39:44 Okay. So switching to June dates, especially in light of the how we 101 closures and the restrictions on weight and the bridge over the little quill right?
15:39:59 Okay? River. To consider shorter and longer closures.
15:40:05 For example, to 5 day closures just spread out impacts that.
15:40:11 Dod participate in an incident management team with Jefferson County.
15:40:18 That's, I think, being clear that we will convene that.
15:40:22 Okay? And also in the earlier point, talking about the like, the specific calendar or fish barrier.
15:40:31 And then avoiding that.
15:40:35 Yeah.
15:40:38 It's a smaller. It's a smaller window. Yeah.
15:40:47 That we have input on the timed openings, and we request the second Ferry be returned to the port towns and run.
15:40:56 Like a reasonable list to me. Okay? And none of those were things they said was impossible.
15:41:02 You know. So we're trying to work within the realm of the possible with them.
15:41:07 Okay. With that I will open. We're open for public comment.
15:41:14 We'd love to hear from you if you are, have anything to contribute about the letter.
15:41:18 We're contemplating to Washington. Well, Miss Paul, come on over. It's good.
15:41:24 We don't have a a giant audience, but it's a high, participating audience of one.
15:41:30 All right, Jean.
15:41:30 Are you sick of me yet? See what happens when you're when my wireless is working, you'll hear from me so my apologies for that.
15:41:41 You know, they in legal terms, they have a phone called coming to the nuisance.
15:41:47 And so it cannot be said that anyone who lives on a peninsula with a single bridge for active does not know the risks of a bottle, neck.
15:42:01 However, when Dt. Is conducting multiple traffic revisions, they are shutting down the major.
15:42:10 Arterial for access, and then they are also shutting down a cat. I don't know if you would call this a capillary, but one on one like if they're gonna shut down one on one,
or have alternating traffic simultaneous to a hook canal bridge
15:42:27 Closure, and we're talking about already constricted roads, and then altered in traffic and truck traffic, and we can travel, you know, to ask them for alternatives or consideration
of these impacts is not unreasonable.
15:42:40 So thank you for considering those things. That's it.
15:42:44 Thanks.
15:42:45 Thank you very much, Miss Paul. Anyone else like to make public comments.
15:42:52 Okay, seeing none, I will call the question all in favor of tasking Commissioner Dean with writing the letter that we discussed the finer points of to Washdot, to collaborate
with the county administrator and get all commissioners to sign for sending off early this week indicate
15:43:13 by saying, Hi! Hi! All right! That motion passes great. We're doing.
15:43:21 It's been a chalk full day. Can we talk briefly about the kptz?
15:43:29 Yeah, I had sent a proposal out to you guys.
15:43:32 And also Kpcz is a kind of brainstorm, and they also sent one back this week with offering us a couple different options.
15:43:42 It doesn't sound like they're totally keen on my making a radio show and open public meeting.
15:43:48 So they've got 2 proposals, one being on Mondays from twelve-thirty to 1255.
15:43:54 Basically like the brewery with John Morrow, and just kind of rotating commissioners.
15:43:59 I think is what they anticipate. So that would be kind of rotated at our flexibility.
15:44:03 I'm sure, so we could accommodate everyone's schedule, and they offered 2 dates.
15:44:09 Monday, 1230 to 1255 or Friday's 1230 to 1255, both of which are times with Lossack meetings.
15:44:21 We wouldn't all miss them all the time.
15:44:24 This is just about creating a weekly radio program to to shine a spotlight on activities of the county.
15:44:36 I would prefer the Friday time. I think it's a great idea.
15:44:40 I hate to say it, Greg. I agreed with Kptz on this one.
15:44:45 All right. Just I have a very different. I bring a different energy to the radio as I do to these meetings, and it would be hard for me to combine them.
15:44:55 I think you're better at that. Yeah, I bring the same.
15:45:01 So I like the idea, especially on a Friday, just when I'm not in like busy Monday mode, and more relaxed on Fridays.
15:45:08 And so I think it's great idea. I I think it would be.
15:45:12 Fun to do. I think we could all, you know, share that responsibility. And you know, maybe plan a month out or something. It's gonna work. Friday. And you know, maybe plan a
month out or something. And then, you know, maybe plan a month out or something. Yeah, I think it's great okay, yeah.
15:45:35 Correct. Okay.
15:45:39 Okay, well, I will respond to Jim to that effect and keep setting it up and keep you guys, approved of how that looks great. Thank you.
15:45:49 And are you in touch with Wendy about this I'm gonna keep you guys upgrades and how that looks great. Thank you. And are you in touch with Wendy about this?
15:45:57 Okay? And then one other. Just brainstorm. As long as we have a little bit of time.
15:46:06 Mark shared with me an email from one of our directors, suggesting that Tuesdays would be a much better day for the and I just as long as keep it everything open at the what's
it?
15:46:22 The game where you throw the sticks up and they fall.
15:46:23 Yeah. Pick up sticks. Yeah.
15:46:31 Yeah, we every couple of years we go through this. That is, you still continue with the leader this year.
15:46:42 How much this?
15:46:47 Not something we have to even decide on. Our advantages would be, you know that we often run into holidays.
15:46:52 We often run into people taking on Monday off we often run into a lot of different things.
15:47:02 So things fired. We hundreds of pages on Sunday, so I mean, that's so.
15:47:10 It would allow us to keep a more normal week a little bit, but I did my meetings Friday this week, and it was.
15:47:17 It was nice, though so I don't know.
15:47:22 We? I just something to kind of chew on, not really looking, I mean, first responses even consider, I've had the thought over the years, the 2 years, and I just moved overstanding
meeting to Tuesday because it was big giving me time.
15:47:39 So, I just moved overstanding, meeting to Tuesday's cause.
15:47:45 It was okay. Thanks I. This would not be an easy thing to undertake.
15:47:50 Throw it up. Okay, I think the you know something.
15:47:52 We've when we've talked about this in the past we come back again and again to the beer that there would be a lot of last minute, a lot of things put off until Monday like it
is really nice having a deadline we all have to have our stuff in and put it to bed on
15:48:12 Friday, nice beginning starting off. Yeah. And they're just not scrambling like, Hey, you know, I might be able to complete this and get it on the agenda there's not a scrambling
like, hey, you know, I might be able to complete this and get it on the agenda there would be
15:48:26 yeah, and not maliciously just human nature. So you know, I guess I've just built my life around Sundays, being a day of reading.
15:48:36 And you know I either set aside 4Â h or 8Â h, depending on the agenda, so I'm just used to that. That's it.
15:48:44 I'm not great it like imagining change. I'm not a great change agent, so if there is a impetus, I will go along with it. I thought it was a fun kind of thought experiment, and
just the week and structure.
15:49:03 Make it easier, more difficult for our answers. Staff and from public was clerical. I think so.
15:49:12 My only concern is.
15:49:23 To get your hearing request for hearing notice in 6 days earlier or week earlier than currently.
15:49:30 Yeah. It's a good notice in the paper until Wednesday.
15:49:34 Yeah, yeah, that's a significant number. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think we should keep in mind a lot of other jurisdictions.
15:49:42 Do it very differently. They do 2 half days, or hold a and a half day, you know, with some, you know, workshops and business meetings like it could be divided up to in other
ways.
15:50:00 Which would have some benefit, maybe, of separating out workshops.
15:50:06 We're not doing public comments and taking action and put all of that in one day or one question of the day.
15:50:12 And then not in the other. Yeah.
15:50:17 Yeah, no, me, too. Get it over with. Yeah, down in Clark County. We would do board meetings on a Tuesday, and then on Wednesday we would have work sessions in the morning, and
then board time in the afternoon.
15:50:35 Yeah, I don't know. I'm not really proposing it just always good to challenge our assumptions.
15:50:45 And Tuesday, and a from day 2 right Wednesday.
15:50:48 I think.
15:50:51 Mason is also, I think, Monday, Tuesday, Tuesday, Wednesday, a lot or 2 days, and not necessarily 2 full days.
15:51:00 But you know, gives them the ability to ask some questions, do some work.
15:51:06 And not have to wait a whole week.
15:51:13 Hit a test. Hi, I couldn't believe this did. A task meets.
15:51:19 Over how they say, okay, over 1,500 times a year, over 1,000 times a year.
15:51:25 Public meetings, oh, they meet almost every day. They're commissioners.
15:51:31 They just like have a couple of hours a day where they they burn out to Clark every year.
15:51:42 Yeah, so a lot of different ways of doing it.
15:51:53 I couldn't believe that. I just learned that last week in Olympia.
15:51:57 The, yeah. Well, maybe. Are we going 200 work days in year?
15:52:02 They know, they meet on at the meet 3 to 5 times a week, 3 days, so week would be a light week.
15:52:10 They mean almost every day. Yeah, I like you guys, I don't want to see anyone every day of the week.
15:52:21 Okay. Hmm, interesting. Well, I don't know. Is this the topic to talk about in strategic?
15:52:27 Planning. I mean, it's a little. I'm choose, I guess, but it's sort of it's one of those things that is not a big deal and also pretty fundamental.
15:52:37 At the same time. Yeah, it's so.
15:52:41 Carolyn, I'm surprised to hear you say that you're not worried about a lot of last minute changes here so close.
15:52:50 The second Tuesday.
15:52:52 Your meetings too.
15:52:57 Invoices. 91. Okay, okay, so Thursday, that would affect me greatly.
15:53:07 I don't know. I mean regarding you know we try to go.
15:53:12 Is seeking to do.
15:53:15 Yeah.
15:53:30 Yeah, well, and I think what we've said is that with the 24Â h notice period, you couldn't make changes to the agenda after 9 Am.
15:53:45 Monday, so there wouldn't be time for a lot of changes.
15:53:47 But if it's a regular meeting, you can walk anything on.
15:53:50 Yeah, so, I think it would be open to a lot of last minute.
15:53:55 Awesome included. I'm not saying to Staff, so we have the opportunity to review them.
15:54:05 It is a good point.
15:54:10 You know you could walk.
15:54:13 Yeah, to review it more, you know. Well, I hate to keep referring to Clark County cause I'm sick 5 and a half years out of that.
15:54:21 But we would publish on Fridays for Tuesday.
15:54:26 And we would not entertain.
15:54:31 Changes on the Monday. For that reason.
15:54:36 To yes, to minimize, just to make it more organized and and fair enough to the people who wanna know what we're doing on a given day.
15:54:49 Yeah, like, I always think myself included. If you know, like, if I we try to have say Powerpoint presentations included in the agenda packet they don't always get done, but
they're it's like, yeah, too bad. You're gonna have to do.
15:55:04 It on the weekend there's an incentive right to have it done Friday, and I think there is some benefit to that.
15:55:11 Good conversation doesn't seem like there's any energy to do anything right.
15:55:20 Got anything else. Oh, yeah, yeah, you don't wanna give me started.
15:55:23 Okay, sure streaming meetings. I wanna go to the and I wanna go to the landfill this year, and you should. And we should stream and open public meeting from each of the field
trip locations.
15:55:35 Even just our own recycling center. Pull out some of the stuff that shouldn't be in there.
15:55:40 Can you put that in English for me? Sure, I turn on Facebook, live on my phone essentially.
15:55:51 And while we are let's say we're going to the swack, Senator, to see how much garbage is in it.
15:55:59 Yeah, or you know, a murr, a manufacturer no, no, it's there that where they recycling gets processed material reclamation, facility, and then so we have a tour.
15:56:11 Going, but because both Heidi and I are going, we posted as a special meeting.
15:56:17 We post just like the Dnr. Did when Heidi and I and Kate, I think to a degree attend theirs, and so when we're both at the Merf, it's an open public meeting, and we can just
live stream from our phone our experience.
15:56:31 And it's posted as a public meeting captured on on Zoom and posted.
15:56:39 I keep going. No, I like it. I like that.
15:56:42 Idea, alright! I don't really have any, but I'll and now you've the gallant has been front.
15:56:54 Okay, just wait for the out of the box. Ideas. Yeah. The the well is a hand rate.
15:56:56 Hmm! We are to the wacky part of the meeting.
15:57:00 Let's see Gene bombs. Oh, come on over, Jean.
15:57:03 Sure. Let's hear. Hmm!
15:57:09 It's just Jean and us, really. Hey, Jean, go ahead!
15:57:14 We'd love to hear from you.
15:57:15 I well, I couldn't resist so if you're gonna do some live streaming of meetings in various locations, my special request would be is that they are accompanied by David Crosman
for a soundtrack.
15:57:29 Yeah. Alright. Well, we'll do. We can.
15:57:31 Thank you.
15:57:34 I did just buy for the department a set of of microphones.
15:57:40 So one phone can connect to 2 law of microphones and or even more, they can record separately on their own.
15:57:47 So like if we were doing one of these meetings, we could go and and take this, and Hidy would have a microphone.
15:57:54 I'd have a microphone. The phone would have a microphone.
15:57:56 We'd have 3 inputs to that. We're all get synced together and and create a.
15:58:05 But anyone can use that system I mean getting it dialed in.
15:58:08 And then, and we'll share with Wendy, and we'll keep it here.
15:58:12 Great. There are limitations and where we can meet. But I think it's just for regular meetings.
15:58:24 Yes, you have to get a look of the.
15:58:36 Locations. Yeah, well, we'll have to make sure that we do it.
15:58:43 I mean, I think the there would be a tour.
15:58:45 And so how Dnr. Did it is if you want to proceed with this you can't join the meeting at any time, but we're going to enter the Murph at 90'clock.
15:58:52 So this address at 90'clock is where the meeting happens also available.
15:58:55 You know online. But there's no public comment. Right? Yeah.
15:59:03 Yeah. No, there'd be no action taken or anything. It would just be processing inputs.
15:59:09 Yeah, yeah, like, as we walking out the door, just stick it up on the on some rain.
15:59:17 Yeah, yeah, okay, that's all I have anything else for the good of the order.
15:59:27 Oh, I'll be out of the office march thirteenth through Seventeenth.
15:59:35 Certification points.
15:59:41 All right. Exciting.
15:59:44 We do have a growing list of boarding committee vacancies I haven't done any work on my promised work.
15:59:52 There!
15:59:56 Been trying to work on conservation futures.
16:00:02 Question, and some of these, since we didn't have a housing.
16:00:08 But fun Board meeting. We did have one applicant, but we really do need another apps in there.
16:00:27 Did we find out about the Marine Resources Committee? Do they like to try to fill those? Do they like help with those?
16:00:37 I ask that feel like?
16:00:44 Yeah, I feel like, it's never been a district 2 person yet.
16:00:49 So I can ask Monica.
16:00:55 Wendy said she was gonna do a post on the is.
16:00:59 Did somebody just say that? Hello! There!
16:01:07 Okay.
16:01:10 We'll give a.
16:01:13 We're gonna make a pool first one to fill.
16:01:15 One gets pool. Yeah. Gamble.
16:01:21 Alright. I challenger. I'm gonna I'm gonna get that left one filled before you guys cause you've got somebody lined up.
16:01:35 Seems like sending. Brooks will be a great person for the period.
16:01:43 She has time.
16:01:47 Yeah. It's a good idea. That's only quarterly she's someone that could represent, you know, a lot of them.
16:01:56 Industry, aspects. Yeah Arlene Ellen was gonna apply.
16:02:01 But oh, maybe she was!
16:02:11 A big one already. I feel bad. Yeah, she does a lot.
16:02:16 Okay, well, we'll keep at it. And Kate said, no ledge update this week, but we'll have probably a beefy one next week.
16:02:25 Yeah, exactly. Just so. Anything I report on now is so, yeah, if you don't mind.
16:02:33 Yep. Okay. Anything else? For the good of the order. I will just say our the point. O.
16:02:40 9 Bill didn't make it out of ways in me.
16:02:46 And so really again, yeah, no, every year it's oh, this is the chair.
16:02:49 Yeah, right? But it is. It's not necessary to implement the budget so it can continue to be heard.
16:03:00 But it still has to get out of that committee.
16:03:03 Yeah, what's her issue with it? Well, we found we resolved the issues she wanted more transparency.
16:03:09 And so there was. The reporting was department of revenue really started like making sure that all the counties were reporting, and they published sheet on the their website.
16:03:22 And then the there's a amendment made the bill this year to have auditors have to do something that amendment was gladly accepted for more transparency.
16:03:38 But so like we thought those were her concerns.
16:03:43 She talked about concerns about the State's bonding capacity, that this basically, if counties were bonding it, that it would use up part of the State's funding capacity.
16:03:54 Yeah, which nobody has been able to confirm or deny.
16:04:00 That makes my head spin. If I start thinking about it.
16:04:08 Yeah. Alright. Yeah. I mean, it is borrowing against the State's revenues.
16:04:13 And so it could be double debt. Another concern, I think, was that, you know, basically rural counties get a lot more back in revenues.
16:04:28 Then they generate for the state. And so it's just kind of an unfair distribution.
16:04:34 Yes, agreed, so those are the concerns we've heard over the years, so it will be good to spend some time.
16:04:41 Olympia this week and get kind of a you know.
16:04:45 Get back together and strategize with we've got some heavy headers so involved with it.
16:04:51 So, yeah, it was surprising. Hmm, interesting.
16:04:54 Yeah, yeah.
16:05:02 I also heard that that our legislative delegation was not in support of the rap act they had concerns about the impacts to the paper mills.
16:05:13 Ours in particular. Well, our mail, because it's a packager.
16:05:18 It produces packaging. Hmm!
16:05:24 But my understanding is that the you know in the legislation even talks about that.
16:05:29 There will be organizations formed to represent the packaging.
16:05:37 Is that be responsible for it? Of the collection is going to be chasing down all of the brown.
16:05:45 The craft paper that they produce, but that there would be somebody doing it for the paper companies, and so anyway, I've not also not confirmed that.
16:05:54 But was an interesting take on it, challenging. Have you checked it with anybody?
16:06:00 Okay. I've not. No, I just heard this on Friday.
16:06:05 Cause the students for sustainability. The high school students from Port Town Centre working on it, gonna go down to work on our legislators on that bill.
16:06:14 So, yeah, so stay tuned. I'll come back on Thursday.
16:06:19 Once we look forward to that. Yeah, update.
16:06:22 All right. Nothing else.
16:06:27 Oh, there's gotta be oh, well, I feel like we got a full day's work done.
16:06:32 So even if we're getting a few minutes back in our day, I I'm pretty good about it.
16:06:35 So, go get your mom's firew so to enable Heidi to go.
16:06:40 Do that, Aaron, we will adjourn this meeting of the Board of Have a good week.