HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:00:36 We're done with our experimental theater. We can call this March sixth meeting of the Board of County Commissioners to order.
09:01:00 Good morning, everyone. We will start as we do every day with public comments, and then we've got a couple of proclamations on the agenda following that we might delay one of
those, and rewarded a little bit.
09:01:13 But we'll start with publicly comment.
09:01:18 So we'll first start online anyone that's with us in Zoom.
09:01:21 Please click raise your hand and we'll bring you over well, you'll have 3Â min to address this on any issue, and as always, we will listen to all the public comments and then
respond to them.
09:01:30 After people have a chance to talk. So I see Becky is coming over.
09:01:37 Becky, when you get yourself unmuted, and you can turn your camera on if you like.
09:01:40 We'd love to hear from you, and you have 3Â min to talk.
09:01:50 You're still muted, Becky.
09:01:59 There we go!
09:02:03 You look unmuted, but we can't hear anything yet.
09:02:07 Give us some audio.
09:02:14 Hmm! We're still struggling to hear you, Becky.
09:02:21 You can also, in your meeting, if you click up on the audio arrow and the bottom left, you can move it to a phone connection.
09:02:31 So you can just use a phone connection to make comments.
09:02:36 So we'll give you a moment to work through that so we'd love to hear from you.
09:02:40 It looks like you might have an inconsistent signal.
09:02:42 You? Did you meet her? No, you muted yourself again.
09:02:47 Sorry. Well, I'll ask anyone else if you'd like to make public comment while we get Becky's audio worked out.
09:02:53 You can click, raise hand, love to hear from you.
09:03:05 Becky still looks like you have an inconsistent signal.
09:03:08 So you might wanna try just calling in to the meeting at the same at the number on the agenda.
09:03:15 We're gonna keep public common open until 9 30. But.
09:03:27 Yeah. She's been there. You all right. You're unmuted.
09:03:32 Now, Becky, you want to try some audio.
09:03:37 Yeah, we're not. Hmm, not hearing you. Maybe we should.
09:03:41 Should we try from someone else?
09:03:44 Can we get a sound check from? Adio? Okay, ado.
09:03:50 Can you unmute and just make sure that we're not having problems on our side?
09:03:54 Give us a testing. Testing. 1, 2, 3, rain in Spain.
09:04:02 Can you hear anyone? Then it's not just muted having a Monday.
09:04:05 It's not just me. Yeah, all right.
09:04:16 Well, we'll have others like Josh.
09:04:23 No gene ball is. Gonna test it out. Bring one. Let's bring Jean over. He's on the team.
09:04:30 Greeting, Jean, you have 3Â min. We'd love to hear from you, and actually make sure we can hear you.
09:04:37 Good morning. Can you hear me?
09:04:38 We can just find thanks for testing your system.
09:04:40 Okay. Oh, so sorry. Truck was driving by. So if you can hear me, all must be right in the universe.
09:04:48 So I sympathize for anybody who can't get it done, cause I've been there.
09:04:51 Thank you.
09:04:53 Thank you. Jane. Okay, well, we'll keep Becky.
09:04:58 Come, try and just, Becky, when you get your audio going, go ahead and interject and if you're on the phone and would like to make public comment. That's you, Becky.
09:05:06 You can hit Star 9 on the phone, and that will. And we can unmute the phone there as well.
09:05:12 And it's Star 6 to unmute. Did you just bring them over?
09:05:16 Did they raise it?
09:05:16 Can you get your audio going?
09:05:19 Okay, we can hear you. Hi, this is Becky.
09:05:21 Hi, great, I I, yeah, it is. And I gotta leave the screen.
09:05:28 So we can't hear ourselves over and over again. Good morning. Can you hear me?
09:05:32 Thank you. We can hear you. Great!
09:05:34 Great. So I'm Becky Kimball, and I'm here today.
09:05:38 Representing a local 2,020 transportation lab.
09:05:42 The T lab to ask you for sponsorship and some financial assistance for a conference that we are planning, entitled Moving in the right direction, and we acknowledge that we
applied for Arpa funds, and didn't fully meet the criteria.
09:06:03 but had no way of knowing how many others would apply, and so seemed like it was worth an attempt.
09:06:11 So wow, and on a side, so many worthy projects in our community.
09:06:16 And what a difficult job you guys had! Allocating those funds!
09:06:22 I know that Scott Walker sent you all some information regarding our conference.
09:06:32 I know that you have that information in your email. I'll just quickly do an overview of.
09:06:37 The the goal of the Conference is to bring together people in the community decision makers elected advocates for change in our community.
09:06:50 To learn that, or understand how transportation affects every aspect of our lives, and how we move people around influences climate, equity, health, housing.
09:07:04 Just to mention, a few aspects are keynote.
09:07:11 Speaker is Mike Mcginn.
09:07:18 I'm sorry. I just heard myself in the background.
09:07:22 Our keynote speaker is Mike Mcginn, former Seattle Mayor, and the CEO of America.
09:07:28 Walk, and he is being joined by.
09:07:33 Dan Burton, who is an internationally recognized expert in walkability, and has changed neighborhoods and cities all over the country and the world.
09:07:44 What we're planning to do during the conference is, look at how transportation and explore that, how it affects all these different things in the community.
09:07:55 And look at data based policies that already exist, and that assists people and walking and biking and using transit.
09:08:06 And and then to get together in small groups and look at those policies and proposed policies that have worked in other communities, or maybe even new ones, that would work
in a.
09:08:22 We are hoping that this will help the community understand how transportation affects density.
09:08:31 In particular. And this is really a very timely conference for all the changes that are happening at the State level, and Gma in particular, there's the Senate Bill on Adus.
09:08:47 It's already passed. The sentence.
09:08:47 Hey, Becky, I'm gonna ask you to wrap it up, please. That's 3Â min.
09:08:51 Oh, it is 3Â min. Okay. Well, I'll tell you what.
09:08:56 I hope you all will join us, will attend, and courage staff to attend and help us put on this conference and get us in moving in the right direction.
09:09:08 Thank you.
09:09:09 Great thanks, so much, Becky, as I said. We'll respond all public comment after we've gotten it all.
09:09:16 So we'll ask if there's anyone else online has public comment to make.
09:09:21 Or in the room. If you have public comment to make. All right, let's bring Julie over.
09:09:40 Good morning. So we have the winter welcoming center has come up with some things about what our year is been like so far, and it's been really intense.
09:09:54 We've seen a 103 individuals. Last year we saw 45 we're averaging 24 a day.
09:10:01 Last year we average 14 a day. We have done 400 laundry vouchers, which are between 12 and $20 a voucher depending on large loads or small loads, and so this is all wrapping
up to say that one I'm running a go fund me for laundry
09:10:18 vouchers, and 2. We're looking at, maybe having to close 2 weeks earlier than we expected, because everything it our budget just blew out of the water.
09:10:29 Basically this year, because it's 103 individuals rather than 45.
09:10:34 I mean, that's it. We've seen a huge boost of people and the fastest growing segment that we're seeing looks like me.
09:10:43 And so I am just sort of putting it out there that we need help from individuals. Or if there's a plot of money that I can beg from with the county or the city, please let me
know because I seem to be the fundraiser, and that's it have a great day.
09:10:59 Thank you so much, Julia.
09:11:04 Anyone else we'll keep public comment open. Tell 9 30, but I guess I'll turn to my colleagues any responses to to Becky or Julia.
09:11:15 I had when I read when I read Scott Walker's request for support for the conference, which I think we decided to at transit to support the conference, but I was wondering for
how much I mean how much what are you looking for in terms of sponsorship levels so Becky if you could send a
09:11:35 follow-up, letting us know what funding level you're looking for.
09:11:39 Support at that would be helpful. 4,000 to 8,000 was the cost of the whole event right?
09:11:45 So I mean, I know that France is doing 500. Uhhuh.
09:11:51 Yeah, I mean, I would love to see if we can find.
09:11:56 Find a way to support this. We've not had a transportation planner that positions been vacant for a year and a half.
09:12:03 Okay. And you know, public works is doing a great job advancing many transportation projects.
09:12:09 But I think we have not been able to kind of be thinking strategically, and especially with the port, hadlock sewer and the densification of that urban growth area.
09:12:20 I would really like to find a way to be able to support that project and kind of get us all thinking along the same lines at a really critical time.
09:12:30 So I guess maybe it's a question, for Mark is, could we?
09:12:34 Could we work with Mark and maybe public works, and see if there's a any pot of funds that we could dip into to help support, that I'm sure we can scrape up 4,000 somehow.
09:12:46 Okay. I'm supportive of the project as well.
09:12:50 So!
09:13:06 She's in there.
09:13:11 Oh, yeah, she's also there on the attendee list again, though you see her there.
09:13:19 Okay, send us. Send us a smile signal, Becky. What? You're what you're looking for.
09:13:25 That would help be helpful. Thank you.
09:13:31 Obviously interested. All right.
09:13:34 Any response to Julian. I'm curious how the the arpa funds that we allocated last week for the winter warming shelter you know, hoping that that will help defray some of that
cost, but I don't know if that was just to get them up.
09:13:50 To the previous funding level and budget. They were hoping for before the kind of recognition of the expansion of of need and services.
09:14:02 So I think we should continue to track that.
09:14:06 Yeah, yeah. And, Julie, if you haven't started working, I didn't let you know explicitly, but we did award $20,000 from the Arpa funds to the winter warming center, recognizing
the importance of the work.
09:14:17 But you know, not recognizing the the increase of the of the scale this year.
09:14:23 That is super unfortunate. So appreciate. You mention it, and you know you can reach out to me after the fact offline and make sure that that process to get the grant is going
smoothhing.
09:14:37 Okay. I don't see any other public comment yet.
09:14:42 We have a couple of proclamations, but maybe we should take a quick look at the the consent agenda.
09:14:49 So excited to see the first call. Thank you so much for looking at the map and digging into that.
09:14:57 That's really exciting. Years and years and years to get to that point.
09:15:01 And digging into that. That's really exciting years and years and years to get to that point, and still just hobbling along with our own staff, primarily working on this project
and so it'll be really nice to get some contractors going on this I mean, it is kind of amazing when you just talking statewide with
09:15:14 folks like this is really hard to do. To build a new municipal sewer. Almost nobody's doing it.
09:15:21 It is kind of amazing when you, you know, just talking statewide with folks like this is really hard to do to build a new municipal sewer.
09:15:26 Almost nobody's doing it, because it's so challenging in so many ways, and just really proud that our little county has plugged away at it for so long to have a shovel ready
project at a time when the funding was available so and segmenting the project so we can hopefully, attract
09:15:32 local bidders, and some of these smaller agencies that can't take on 25 million dollars sewer, but can take on a large earthwork.
09:15:39 Yup! Yup!
09:15:43 Also excited to see some of the Advisory Board appointments, especially the noxious Weed Board appointment.
09:15:51 Tammy Pakorny, stepping up for that district.
09:15:55 3 weed board seat, weed board, seat. Get us to 3 members thrilled to see that looks like we'll be able to use the title.
09:16:10 3 funds for the community. Wildfire prevention, plan.
09:16:15 That's exactly why it's on. There. Yep, that's exciting to see.
09:16:19 I mean, we've just to let everyone know we have really never found a use for those funds that has been viable and so it's just been a slowly growing pot, which is fortuitous
because we have a 180,000 in title 3 monies to bring to bear on this
09:16:35 increasingly important issue, and that's to protect from Wildfire.
09:16:39 Yep, to have any applicants yet for the rrp, yeah, we think we know we have one.
09:16:47 It closes. This is our like. Our third shot at it. Yeah.
09:16:52 Closes on Friday, at 4 30. Okay? And I think we have at least one great lovely seeing Edc.
09:16:59 Stuff come through as well. New 5 way agreement. Everyone's tied into. Yeah.
09:17:05 And that simplifies life for for the director, Cindy Brooks upon adoption, the community Services agreement that we have that imposed a number of different reporting requirements
on the Edc.
09:17:19 Is effectively rescinded. So we're down to 2 agreements rather than rather than 3, and there should be a companion agreement here.
09:17:30 I think there is it. PIN number 8, the 8 number 8 to pay for.
09:17:34 Yeah, so great progress there with edc, and I think it's recognition of the fine work they're doing now.
09:17:41 Yeah, send. Me conveyed to me last week that she's got a great team right now, so it will be good to just have her worry less about keeping her team together and more about
doing the work of the community and very supportive of that.
09:17:55 And the ability to apply for grants with the five-year contract.
09:17:58 So there's a lot of advantages. I had one question about which one was it?
09:18:07 Number 4. Love the work of empowered teens. I think that's what this is.
09:18:12 $5,000 to the school district for basketball courts at $5,000 is supposed to leverage and the way I read it, $40,000 in a go fund.
09:18:21 Me campaign, and that just seemed like a really bad backstop to starting a project like I don't know.
09:18:30 Do you guys look at that? Did you notice that $5,000 downpayment?
09:18:33 And then we're going to pay off the balance after they do the work with the Gofundme account.
09:18:38 It just didn't seem very sure. Yeah, I agree.
09:18:45 And it's not typically how we work. I think the timeline on these funds.
09:18:49 They need to get spent relatively soon, and they're fairly limited in what they can be spent on, and that the school district wants to see this.
09:18:55 There's a dilapidated portion of their campus that's unused, and a lot of interest from the kids in an outdoor basketball court.
09:19:03 And so I I think that the school feels that they will be able to get this funded with some support from the community.
09:19:12 It's also a senior project of a few kids football players.
09:19:16 Close to this. Yeah. So I mean, I think the caution is warranted.
09:19:25 I do think that the you know well, it'd be interesting to know if there's any safeguards built in, you know, if they can't get the project funded, then are we using?
09:19:34 We lose that I will say that the seasons have been extremely supportive.
09:19:41 They have a excellent base, a basketball player in their family.
09:19:45 Yeah, so there's, I mean, there's a lot of community support to help make this happen.
09:19:51 So I think this is kind of seating seeding a project that will get done eventually.
09:19:56 Just a matter of when so little bit of risk.
09:20:00 But I think it's the risk is low enough that I feel comfortable moving forward with it, and it demonstrates a good faith.
09:20:07 Efforts to support the district in a relatively small way for a important project.
09:20:18 Alright any other questions on the consent. Agenda comments.
09:20:23 No, I'm happy to move, to approve the consent.
09:20:27 Agenda for March sixth, 2023. I will.
09:20:31 Second, okay. Any more questions concerns, seeing none. All in favor of approving the consent.
09:20:37 Agenda, as presented, indicate by saying, Aye, all right. Moving on.
09:20:42 Check the zoom room again and keep an eye on that.
09:20:45 Caroline, if you, if anyone has any public comment, you can click, raise hand until 9, 30, and we'd love to hear from you and my attendees are all screwed up.
09:20:53 Now, great. Yeah, there's 19 in there. Interesting. Okay?
09:21:01 Well, I'm a little hesitant to start the proclamation, but I guess we can.
09:21:07 Yeah, we'll just give a little extra time if someone is moved to comment. So we have 2 proclamations. But I think we're talking about maybe not doing the women's proclamation
right now.
09:21:23 Is moved to comment. So we have 2 proclamations. But I think we're talking about maybe not doing that.
09:21:26 The women'. It doesn't seem right. Yeah. It's, you know, like we need to go through it.
09:21:31 So they need some updates. Yeah, yeah. So we'll move on to the proclaiming Monday I'm sorry proclaiming March as read across multiple.
09:21:43 Does seem like we're in the right time. It does seem like the right timeframe, and we have some guests here with us, so I guess, as we usually will do, we'll read the proclamation.
09:21:58 We have some guests here with us, so I guess, as we usually will do, we'll read the proclamation we'll ask for comments from stakeholders here, and then maybe even have an opportunity
for a little photo just to okay are you guys ready to
09:22:05 read the proclamation, you wanna let's go, Kate Heidi.
09:22:09 Greg, okay, the proclamation, whereas the American Red Cross is a humanitarian organization that eases people's suffering during life's emergencies throughout Washington, Oregon,
and across the United States and around the world and whereas South Peter's Sound and Olympics Red
09:22:25 Cross has a long history of helping our neighbors in need by delivering care, shelter, care, and hope during disasters, also making our community safer with preparedness programs.
Cpr.
09:22:36 And First Aid training supporting Military and veterans and their families, and providing lifesaving blood to our medical community, and whereas caring for one another is at
the heart of our community and exemplified by the people of Jefferson county whose simple acts of kindness including through the Red
09:22:53 cross, provide, help and hope in people's most difficult moments.
09:22:57 Whereas Red Cross Month is an international celebration that calls attention to the importance of ordinary individuals that lend a helping hand to make an extraordinary difference
for neighbors in need.
09:23:08 The program provides emergency shelter, food, and comfort for families displaced by home fires and other disasters and conducts.
09:23:17 Blood Drives for patients, accident victims, and people with sickle cell disease and other threat life, threatening conditions.
09:23:22 They support military members and veterans along with their families and caregivers.
09:23:27 And we're as Red Cross has provided first aid in Cpr training to help others survive medical emergencies and has delivered international humanitarian aid and reconnected loved
ones separated by crises around the world since 1,881 and whereas
09:23:43 the Red Cross continues to carry out the organization's 142 year mission of preventing and alleviating suffering during the trying times of covid-nineteen pandemic people have
stepped up to help others in need whether it was responding to disasters
09:23:57 across the country, or rolling up their sleeves to give more than 148.5 units of blood in our region.
09:24:04 When our country faced a severe bloodshot, whereas the lifesaving work of the Red Cross is vital to strengthening our community's resilience.
09:24:13 Now, therefore, the Board of County Commissioners do here proclaim more.
09:24:18 2023, as Red Cross month. We invite you and others to join the Red Cross Mission by volunteering, giving blood.
09:24:25 Learning, lifesaving skills and making a financial donation approve.
09:24:29 The sixth day of March, 2,023, fabulous.
09:24:33 Alright! I would take a motion on this, and then we'll talk about it.
09:24:39 I'll move to approve the proclamation as well.
09:24:39 Happy to second that. Okay, all in favor of approving the proclamation proclaiming March as ready across month, indicate by Santa Hi.
09:24:48 Hi! Yay, Andy, would you like to come? Say a few words?
09:24:52 I could probably speak more eloquently to this than us.
09:24:55 And please do bring the microphone up. Thank you. Well, Commissioner Dean, Commissioner Iisenhower, Commissioner Brotherton, I gratefully accept this proclamation on behalf
of the American Red Cross, and I find the words inspiring, and I know my fellow volunteers, will too, and we really thank you.
09:25:14 each personally, and your hardworking staff for making the proclamation possible.
09:25:20 We're especially happy because it will raise consciousness in the community about the mission here you spoke about how it's been 8 cents 1881, the organization was founded by
a fellow nurse, Claire Barton, and it's been offering that list of services for all
09:25:41 of that time. And fascinating to me when I first started volunteering for Red Cross.
09:25:47 In this county. I was over at the room that the city provides us at the Mountain View Commons, doing a little cleaning up, and I came across a charter that was from 1918 and
signed by President Woodrow Wilson Wow and it's now on the wall, it had somehow gotten
09:26:07 shuffled into a box. But this county has an incredible history.
09:26:12 With Red Cross as well, and what I really would like to do, you know you, by making the proclamation you've raised awareness, and I'm asking the board in your jobs.
09:26:26 You probably talked to hundreds, if not thousands, of people in the county every year, and, like many organizations in our area, the pandemic has decimated our volunteer group.
09:26:40 There are now 5 of us. Oh, and it's not the Red Cross hell, even if we disappear, and we're not spring chickens.
09:26:53 So you know that'll happen. Red Cross will still provide these services to Jefferson County, but often with an appreciable delay, and we had an example of that.
09:27:03 Just this last week, right now I'm the only volunteer that's actually trained and qualified to respond to house fires.
09:27:11 We had a house fire very difficult. One house was burned to the ground.
09:27:16 I was unavailable. Our fellow compatriots in Clalam County responded, but with an appreciable delay, and the person who was involved had to wait quite a while before they got
that immediate assistance.
09:27:31 And so we're really hoping that you will help spread the word that it's an amazing volunteer opportunity.
09:27:40 Red Cross provides all the training you can work in a Nord on a huge number of different kinds of positions.
09:27:48 Some of them are actual, direct service, others are things that you do from your own home.
09:27:55 All of the training is provided. If you have the physical wherewithal, and are able to take the time, you can put deploy to national level disasters.
09:28:04 And that's something that's very challenging to the Red Cross right now.
09:28:07 It used to be that the Red Cross plan for 3 national level disasters a year with climate change.
09:28:14 We're now planning for 11, and those are, you know, fires floods all the things that you see in the news.
09:28:22 We will do all of the training. If you want to go.
09:28:25 Help out in the national level disaster like that. But we've got plenty of homegrown disasters with California fires.
09:28:32 Washington, Oregon, all of those kinds of things, so help us spread the word that the opportunity is there.
09:28:39 We need your assistance. I'm gonna leave a little bit of information recruiting 2, but we couldn't be easier to find the phone number is 1 800 red frost.
09:28:50 That's a good one, and the URL is Red Cross dot rg, so even for local volunteers, that's a good one, and the URL is Red cross.org.
09:29:02 So even for local volunteering, that those would be the number and websites.
09:29:06 The website gives you. You can explore without, you know, making any kind of commitment, you can find out what information is available.
09:29:09 Then it puts you in touch with a team that will help you figure out where you might fit in and it's all different levels and we're a little worried about disappearing.
09:29:17 And that would be a sad thing with the long history that Jefferson County has.
09:29:23 So please spread the word, and I'm happy to answer question.
09:29:27 If time allows, if not, I would come back, and you know, talk to you and we'd love to have you come back sometime.
09:29:36 This is a very easy call to action to support. You know.
09:29:38 I mean, we have a lot of opportunities to say, Hey, you know, take a look at this, and that's that's great that it's so easy to let me see if I remember 1 800 Red Cross Red
cross.org.
09:29:48 Alright! Yeah, that's it. That's great.
09:29:51 Any other questions for Andy. I have a couple of comments, and just really appreciate the the partnership that Red Cross provides to our department of Emergency management.
09:29:59 So thank you, and nice to meet you, Andy. I'm a little remiss, and having not introduced myself because I'm a direct descendant of Claire Barton.
09:30:09 Oh, yeah, I like great grandmother was still a Barton, and it continues as a middle name for both.
09:30:13 My father, and sister because you are with public involvement still. Yes, yeah.
09:30:21 And I'm near blood. I take great pride, and being a descendant of hers, she was not supportingly very progressive for her time. A suffragette, an abolitionist, a spitfire, and
very politically engaged so I have a lot of pride in our family
09:30:36 connection to the really, you know, life-changing work that she did.
09:30:43 I mean, both on the individual helping individuals, but on that level, and also really changing the way that we view how we respond to emergencies and humanist global effort.
09:30:54 So thank you for continuing that work locally, and I'm fired up to look into to taking your training and getting involved.
09:31:02 It would seem a natural thing I'm happy to talk to you individually, and you can also get you know, direct assistance on either of those electronic means.
09:31:11 So who can I give this you can bring it up here.
09:31:16 We have a proclamation to you can just here, and when when we're done you can take that down and get it.
09:31:22 Get the seal, put on it at the Commissioner's office, but should you want to take a quick picture?
09:31:27 Yeah, you guys, mind, no.
09:31:35 Come around there and do in front of us.
09:31:39 You can just lay across our arms.
09:31:46 Yeah.
09:31:53 Yeah. Great to meet you or see you again, Andy. Thank you so much.
09:31:57 You can hold onto that and take it down to the office at the end of the hall, and they'll get put a seal on it. You can take it away with you right now, right.
09:32:03 So if I'm on in the oh, yeah, and they'll they'll photo it as well.
09:32:16 Thanks for your service. Thank you. Thank you. My loan or computer restarted I'll be coming back in.
09:32:25 It's okay. All right. But do you use anyone else will make a last call for public comment.
09:32:31 If anyone is moved to comment, please raise your hand click, star 9, to raise your hand.
09:32:37 If you're on the phone. Okay, Becky's better hand up again. Sure.
09:32:40 Well, we'll give. We asked her to once.
09:32:43 You go ahead and bring her over.
09:32:55 That's where I knew Becky Kimball. You, Rebecca Kimball, I think I know you as Rebecca from O. 3 a.
09:33:05 We'd love to hear from you again. I think we asked you a question.
09:33:14 We can hear you.
09:33:10 I Hi! Can you hear me? Great! Let me turn the phone off.
09:33:17 I've used all the technology today.
09:33:19 Alright! Touch it all!
09:33:21 The desktop isn't working, and so thanks again for giving me an opportunity and I'll just get straight to Heidi's question.
09:33:30 We have sponsorship from Jefferson. Health care at $1,000. We've got 500 from transit.
09:33:40 We got 200 who are broken, spoke. We got 200 from the Co-OP pretty confident we'll get something from the city, but don't know how much that is, and probably something from
the port.
09:33:53 Our hope is that after this conference we'll be able to put on several other smaller ones.
09:34:01 So!
09:34:02 Do you have a specific ask for us as a sponsorship, Becky?
09:34:07 Well, you know my dad asked. Taught me to if I want a puppy to ask for a pony, so I think of $2,000.
09:34:18 Okay. Alright. Well, we'll see if we can get you a pony.
09:34:22 I think there's a lot of support here.
09:34:22 Okay. Great. Alright. Thank you so much, and sorry for all that.
09:34:27 Technical stuff.
09:34:28 Oh, we're no, it happens to all of us. Have a puppy.
09:34:33 Yeah, okay. I assume no one else is raising their hands right now.
09:34:44 So we will, I guess. Go on to a little bit of look back in briefing before I'm 9 45.
09:34:57 Move, to start.
09:35:00 Kate, are you good to start? Or do you want me to start?
09:35:03 Can jump in, go for it. Oh, see!
09:35:10 Tuesday of last week. I had a Economic Development Council Finance Committee meeting, and certainly good news to have the additional funding from Pip that makes the it turns
the ink from Red to black for a little while, which is much appreciated. Yeah.
09:35:30 And the five-way agreement increases funding by 40,000 10,000 from each government.
09:35:37 So that's great. Yeah. But Edc is definitely still, you know, looking at kind of the existential question of you know, should they be, you know, looking at at grants and and
you know, is actually considering whether to become a on a 501 C, 3 nonprofit or not there say as
09:35:55 a. C. 6. Should they be looking at more kind of fee for service?
09:35:59 There's a lot of services that are not available to the business community here.
09:36:02 That would be one way to support the business community while also generating some revenue.
09:36:07 So big, questions still at play with the kind of reorg of that board, and no clear answers.
09:36:15 It takes a while group process, we all know, but I agree that Cindy is doing a great job.
09:36:21 And really, you know, appreciate her leadership and vision as we, as we work through some of these big questions but the budget recommendation came out, came around by from
Aaron Burg, who said he sees her car there at all hours of the day.
09:36:37 And night. So it was a very. It was a very sweet moment in P.
09:36:40 IP that he just was inspired to make that and vote of competence. Yeah.
09:36:46 And I would happy to second it. So I mean, you know.
09:36:48 But he was like I see her car there all the time.
09:36:54 Let's see. Many of us attended the going away party of the Guardian and Liden program manager.
09:37:00 Have it be my sister, appreciate the skills she'll bring to Dbh.
09:37:08 As another important partner. Tend to the port towns and empowered teens.
09:37:12 Coalition meeting. Let's see, not a lot to report there.
09:37:18 Really valuable number of updates. You know, it's interesting that just the value of being able to hear from all the partners of what's going on and who's doing watch?
09:37:29 I often have a conflict with that meeting, so it's glad to be able to attend Wednesday.
09:37:34 I had a meeting with with Mark Mccauley and Michael Mark on our Usda appropriation for the childcare center.
09:37:45 It's gonna be a lot of work, Michael. Yes, largely on Michael.
09:37:51 I'm the whole team, you know, which also includes Arizona and Jefferson healthcare in the school district.
09:37:56 But yeah, Michael's gonna do heavy lift to secure the funding.
09:38:00 So you know how these appropriations work is you still have to go through the application process even though you're not competing.
09:38:07 So you just have to check a bunch of boxes. So Michael's on it and really appreciate his jumping in with both feet, even though he had no idea this was gonna land on his plate,
grateful for him on the team.
09:38:19 Yes. Yeah. Yup, yup, went on to Olympia.
09:38:24 Legislative Steering Committee was no excuse me. Wednesday afternoon evening, and then much of Thursday, and I'll give a legislative report later this afternoon.
09:38:36 Number of things we're following how we do it on time doing all right.
09:38:42 Had a number of follow-up conversations on the our washed up meeting.
09:38:47 And yeah, of course, wanting to continue to provide input to washdot on the bridge closure dates.
09:38:53 And those comments continue to come in. I believe you saw we did eventually get a response from washed out to the letter that we sent them, which was I think, it was described
as a non formal response, but just acknowledgeged receipt of that and sounds like
09:39:10 they're really focused on trying to find ways to do openings during those 4 weekend closures, but not really considering a change of so the response from washdot is that they
are focused on trying to find ways to open bridge for short periods of time during the july and august
09:39:30 closure dates doesn't sound like they're really considering changing the July and August closure dates doesn't sound like they're really considering changing data like the biggest
stakehold.
09:39:41 I can get more cynical than that.
09:39:42 But I'll that makes sense. See? Friday worked quite a bit on fairgrounds issues which continue to be challenging, and I will be kind of funally joining the board.
09:39:56 We've always had. We've actually had 3 seats there which is impossible.
09:40:01 But it would be. I mean it would be a, yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
09:40:10 I'm not sure if you're suggesting that but if it is, that would be something we should talk about but I mean I was invited to go to the meeting this Thursday, too.
09:40:19 I mean, it's just a big, a big deal. Yeah, I've been receiving a ton of outreach about it, and I've been thing that Kate's carrier, the football for us on this one.
09:40:29 So, yeah, yeah. But it's I think we're all getting a lot of input.
09:40:33 Yes. Good. Okay. Well, let's continue to talk about it.
09:40:37 It's it gets more complex the more we dig into it.
09:40:41 So sorry phone keeps closing.
09:40:51 Also worked with the Subcommittee for the Board of Health on our Climate Change Initiative.
09:40:56 We took on a year of studies of climate change and public health, and it has been decided that the public health can dedicate some of the Foundational public health services
funding to working on climate change.
09:41:12 And so we now have Laura. Yes, sorry.
09:41:21 I'm butchering that name and don't have it in front of me.
09:41:27 That she will be working on are kind of organizing our monthly updates and Board of Health on climate change issues which I've been saying all along.
09:41:36 One of the challenges for us advancing efforts and climate change is that we have 10 people doing 10 different things and nobody can have overseeing and coordinating and she's
not quite in that role yet.
09:41:46 But at least to advance the Board of Health efforts to have a staff person who's point on point is gonna be really helpful.
09:41:54 Some thank you to public health and to Laura for stepping up to do that, and that was my week.
09:42:03 Great. Just a couple of minutes left. Do you wanna just breeze right through it?
09:42:09 Okay. Tuesday, I had a shoreline Hearings Board Administrative meeting.
09:42:17 I'm and it. I've been scheduled to participate in a hearing. In July.
09:42:21 So Jefferson Community Foundation Board meetings went to the departure of and Dean, the transition party, and then that evening I was in the audience at the Dayba Bay Natural
Area preserve expansion, hearing where Commissioner Brotherton spoke Wednesday morning dark our strategic plan Project team
09:42:47 Matt, and then in the afternoon I had a Jefferson Transit Finance Committee meeting Thursday I met with Cindy of the Edc.
09:42:57 Just to talk about the meeting the week before, and debrief that.
09:43:01 And hear what sun the front burner for her went to a solid waste meeting regarding the Rap Act.
09:43:12 There's a lot of changes on the horizon for recycling potentially.
09:43:18 Trust land transfer program legislation still is feels feels like a half time job to me, and I'll be in Olympia this week again on Thursday, testifying in the Senate version
of that bill met without Karen's about Recycling and
09:43:34 swack, straight, year and agenda planning, and that was, that was Thursday, and then Friday I had a meeting with Jeff Selby from the talking about.
09:43:49 Their work with the port of Port Townsend and trail routing, and met with Ben Thomas, who is the vice chair of the Transit.
09:43:57 Jta with me, and just kind of coming up with some.
09:44:01 I do some proactive ideas to work with the staff at transit.
09:44:04 And do things a little more proactively. This year had a forest check in with Mary Jean Ryan just to get an update on her work.
09:44:15 And then met with Cory and Mallory about a very exciting proposal to do.
09:44:22 Some would said kind of project development around getting our local.
09:44:31 Would processing and harvesting ecosystems pulled up so that we have it more.
09:44:35 Climate, friendly way of getting wood into our community, and also a lot of wood chips.
09:44:43 So talking with them a lot about the farmers who use woodchips.
09:44:46 And anyway, just brainstorming that proposal they're putting into the Us.
09:44:49 Forest Service. I am gonna connect him to Kilmer's environmental staff and try and get a letter of support for that grant that he's submitting, that would shed project anyway.
09:45:02 That was last week. Alright, will times? Yeah. Alright, I don't do.
09:45:08 We have oops!
09:45:16 Still a minute ahead.
09:45:22 Good morning, Dr. Barry!
09:45:24 Good morning. Nice to be here. Nice to see you all.
09:45:28 Yeah, let's give it just 30Â s to make sure we're at 9 45.
09:45:33 So we don't overlap on Kptz.
09:45:35 Programming, but excited to have you here the last refrains of Bob Marley, the last refrains of Bob Marley, I assume I would like to imagine that's on the radio transitioning
in and out of Dr.
09:45:53 Berry great. Well, I will say hello to the listeners from Kptz, and welcome we are joined by Dr.
09:46:01 Barry, and I hope soon Willie Vince, as well.
09:46:04 Okay, great, and we'll pass it over to you. Dr.
09:46:06 Barry!
09:46:07 Doing relatively well on the COVID-19 front nationally and at state level, where you're seeing cases and hospitalizations continuing to down Trend.
09:46:18 Unfortunately, deaths remain a stubbornly high figure at this point, we're seeing over 500 deaths per day due to COVID-19 at the national level.
09:46:28 You'll note, that is actually higher than we were reporting last month.
09:46:31 There was a delay in some death reporting at the national levels. They've now caught up and we're seeing consistently around 500 deaths per day.
09:46:38 At this point we've lost over 25,000 Americans to COVID-19 at the national level just in 2023, only.
09:46:46 We've seen death data reported for 2021 and COVID-19 remains, the third leading cause of death.
09:46:55 And being that it's the third leading cause of death in the United States.
09:46:57 Just that single virus in Washington State. It was the fourth leading cause of death in Jefferson County.
09:47:03 It was actually the sixth leading cause of death in all of our county.
09:47:07 In 2021, that is, half of what we were seeing in the the nation as a whole.
09:47:12 But even here it was still a major driver of death in our community.
09:47:16 Washington State is following the national trends that we discussed in Jefferson County.
09:47:21 We are reporting 44 new cases of COVID-19, diagnosed in the last week.
09:47:26 That puts us at a case rate of 274 per 100,000, with a case ascertainment rate of one in 11.
09:47:33 We do have one person currently hospitalized for COVID-19, and unfortunately, one new death to report.
09:47:39 So we are up to 35 at this point the most recent death was an individual in their sixtys.
09:47:46 They had multiple underlying chronic conditions and were unfortunately not up to be on their vaccines in neighboring Clown County.
09:47:53 We have a case rate of 107 per 100,000, with a key assertment rate of one in 20.
09:48:00 We do have 2 individuals currently hospitalized for COVID-19 and have 164 deaths to report in total, our most recent deaths included one individual who was in their eightys.
09:48:13 He had multiple. Underlying chronic conditions and was affected as a part of a long-term care facility outbreak, that we were facing.
09:48:21 He was up to date on his vaccines, but because of the sheer volume of his underlying conditions, was not able to overcome his infection.
09:48:30 We also have, unfortunately, a gentleman in his Fortys who recently passed due to COVID-19 in Calam County.
09:48:37 He was not up to date on his vaccines, and passed as a result of a stroke.
09:48:44 After getting COVID-19. We know that hyper coagulability or increased risk of clots is a very real issue for COVID-19.
09:48:51 It does increase your risk of clots in the time shortly after and it appears to particularly do that in individuals who smoke.
09:48:58 So it's another unfortunate reminder of the critical nature saying, Update on vaccines, even if you're young and healthy.
09:49:06 As this individual was probably the biggest news on the COVID-19 front is that Washington State has announced they will be lifting the mask, mandate for health care facilities.
09:49:15 Starting in April third, we between now and then it is still required that everybody in health care facilities wear a mask between now and then we will be working with our local
health care partners to decide on policies for keeping them their patients safe as they seek patient care most likely that could look like individual
09:49:36 organizations requiring masks for people providing patient care in particular high risk areas.
09:49:42 But we'll be talking a lot more with them between now and then.
09:49:45 This Washington State announcement was a bit of a surprise for us at the local level.
09:49:50 So we're working on getting caught up and working with our health care partners, who were also surprised by the notice, so that we can make sure that there's a smooth transition
as we move into April third.
09:49:59 But between now and then it's still required to wear a mask in healthcare facilities, and it's still recommended in any place where either you're feeling sick or the people
around. You are feeling sick.
09:50:10 It's recommended. If you are very high risk for severe disease due to COVID-19, or if you're in a crowded indoor space with a lot of other people whose status you might not
know.
09:50:21 Those are all the spaces where we still recommend wearing a mask outside.
09:50:24 It's fine places where you have a small group of people together, especially if they're people, you know, and you're likely to know whether they're ill or not.
09:50:32 That as a reasonable place to go ahead and unmask.
09:50:34 But if you have a crowded space with a lot of people in it, that's a place where we do still recommend you Mask.
09:50:41 We still are seeing a ton of transmission of COVID-19.
09:50:43 And we're seeing we are seeing severe disease.
09:50:46 And people who are particularly at risk or in people who are not up to date on their vaccines.
09:50:51 So the best thing we all can do is to get up to date on our COVID-19 vaccines and exercise caution when we're in crowded indoor areas and wear that mask.
09:51:00 And with that I'm happy to take any questions.
09:51:02 Thank you, doctor colleagues, any questions?
09:51:08 Okay.
09:51:16 Take the echo off the question, what happened there? Hi! Dr. Barry!
09:51:21 Thanks for joining us. I'm curious, just out of really, I'm truly out of curiosity, not out of distrust, or anything but how did the mask mandate rescission?
09:51:35 Come into play. It sounds like that, was a governor's order, presumably in to play it.
09:51:43 It sounds like that, was a governor's order, presumably in close contact with the Secretary of Health.
09:51:43 What do you know about how that decision was made?
09:51:48 Oh!
09:51:45 The current order is actually Secretary of Health Order. That's been in place.
09:51:50 There was initial discussion of lifting it as we moved them into the winter months, but as we saw the massive surge in Glue and Rsv.
09:51:59 As well as significant. COVID-19. The decision was made to keep it in place.
09:52:04 The decision around, lifting it. I'm not entirely sure.
09:52:08 Certainly local health officers were not consulted in that decision, and so I'm not quite sure what went into that decision.
09:52:16 I know that some other States have lifted their mask.
09:52:19 Mandates and I suspect that that played a role.
09:52:23 Generally Washington State has traveled with Oregon and California, and so potentially seeing those mass mandates be lifted, might have kind of nudged things forward in Washington.
09:52:32 Maybe a little faster than the public health professionals were aware.
09:52:37 Was there much difference in case rates and say, or again, a similar state as ours, when they lifted the mandate?
09:52:46 You know I'm not checked. The Oregon and California data, but I think there's definitely debate among health care professionals around it.
09:52:55 And I think there there was general consensus, that there are some areas where it's reasonable to reduce the mandate burden.
09:53:04 So, for instance, I think actually, as we move into April, it makes a lot of sense to reduce the mandate burden on patients.
09:53:11 Many patients don't tolerate mass. Well, it can be confusing that there's a place where you have to mask, and other places that you don't.
09:53:16 And so, lifting the burden on patients makes a lot of sense.
09:53:19 But in patient care, as the providers of care, we have a higher level of expectation that we don't share viruses or other infectious material with the people that we're taking
care of, and the guidance from the State Infection control board is still the same which is we are still recommended.
09:53:38 As health care practitioners to wear masks when we're providing patient care.
09:53:42 And so that's creates a bit of a confusion for people who are providing patient care when the infection control entities.
09:53:49 Say, this is what you should do, and then the mandates get lifted.
09:53:54 I do think we are as we move out of a state of emergency, we are moving out appropriately away from mandates generally, but back in the normal realm of health care, guidance.
09:54:05 So you know there is no State mandate that we all get tested for Tb.
09:54:09 Before we provide patient care. But there is a normal expectation that we will all be up to date in all of our infection.
09:54:16 Prevention so we don't give a necessary infections to our patients, and I think this will move into that realm too.
09:54:21 Is that there are, you know there's no state mandate that surgeons wear masks when they do surgery, but we know they all do, because it reduces the risk of infections.
09:54:30 After surgery, and I think that masks for COVID-19 could move into a similar space.
09:54:39 I thought that the timing was interesting, and for some reason I heard a lot of buzz about this.
09:54:58 Shit.
09:54:45 The large British report. It was a, I think, a survey of a number of studies on efficacy of masking, and you know the headlines were, we're pretty strongly like, well, clearly,
masking doesn't work when it sounded like all the applause.
09:55:02 Said, Oh, humans are really not great at following mask mandates.
09:55:06 Sure!
09:55:07 And so there are. Is that great? Could you just talk a little bit about that?
09:55:09 Yeah, you're discussing. Probably the Cochrane Review that got a lot of play, and actually is one of the questions we got from Kptz.
09:55:17 Okay.
09:55:17 So. Yes, there are many levels of evidence when it comes to scientific studies, a lot of different structures that they can take.
09:55:28 One is called a meta-analysis, and so Cochrane is a group that does meta-analysis and a meta-analysis is where you take a bunch of different studies and kind of smash their
data together.
09:55:38 And then analyze it as a whole meta-analysis can be very good, but they are limited by the data that goes into them, and how well the design of that study is of how well they
are picking the studies that go into their overall conclusions, and if they you know have a bias.
09:55:58 Sample. If they don't pick a broad spectrum of studies, or if the studies they pick are not very high-quality, their subsequent data output is also gonna be not very high quality,
and unfortunately, the Cochrane review that's gotten a lot of Internet attention falls into that
09:56:14 category. So the Cochrane group is generally pretty well respected.
09:56:18 They do pretty good. Meta-analysis, but not all of their Meta analyses are great before this study came out there was a team that looked at cocker interviews because they carry
so much weight, and about 9% of them were high quality.
09:56:33 But at 10% of them weren't. And this falls, unfortunately a little bit more into that category.
09:56:38 So what this group looked at was, they looked at several studies, including the majority of which were actually pre COVID-19.
09:56:47 So they were studies looking at other human coronaviruses or at influenza or Atlanta common cold virus, and then what they looked at was several errors, where they actually
recommended wearing a mask.
09:56:58 But there were no mandates in place, and they weren't, and they didn't measure very well how well people actually wear masks, and in some cases they actually did measure how
well people wear masks, and they found out they were them poorly. Or not at all and so when they looked at all of those studies. Gathered together.
09:57:15 Where people were basically suggested to wear a mask. They found that there was no change in the infectious disease outcome which makes sense right.
09:57:24 We know that if people don't wear a mask it doesn't really help you.
09:57:27 But unfortunately, and the one of the things that keeps Cochrane as a group that is generally respected in medicine, as they acknowledge the limitations of their studies, and
they did in this study, so as they walk through the discussion in this study, they said this is generally poor quality evidence there's a
09:57:47 high risk for bias in these studies we would not recommend making any policy decisions based on this paper because of all of those factors, but that didn't stop the Internet
for making a lot of policy decisions based on that paper in spite of what the authors had written as their own limitations and that's the
09:58:05 challenge we face. I think confirmation bias is a known thing when it comes to epidemiology.
09:58:11 It's this idea that if if you are told a factor, a data point that matches your pre-existing worldview, you're much more likely to hold on to it and believe that it's true,
and that definitely played out here, so we saw a lot of a lot of folks who were
09:58:26 anti masks, to begin with, who shared this study wildly, widely, and ignored all of the limitations that were cited in that paper.
09:58:34 So it's a very limited study. It certainly does not prove that masks don't work.
09:58:39 In fact, we have a very large body of evidence that does prove that masks work, especially when it comes to COVID-19.
09:58:47 There's there was a large inadvertent control trial in Arizona where multiple jurisdictions, multiple school districts lifted their mask mandates while their neighboring school
districts didn't.
09:59:01 And they found they had 3 times as many outbreaks in the ones who had lifted their mass, spending as those that did.
09:59:07 And there's far, far more beyond that that we've looked at on this program before.
09:59:10 We know that masks work. We know that they make a huge difference, and we actually know that mandates work too.
09:59:15 What doesn't work is just kind of vaguely telling people to wear a mask if they don't actually do it so adherence really makes a huge difference in how well masking reduces
transmission so that it's an unfortunate unfortunate thing that happened to some
09:59:31 extent it's unfortunate, that Cochrane, even published that study, knowing it's limitations because it's been misused since that happened.
09:59:39 Unfortunately, one of the authors in that group did go on to write an opinion piece in the New York Times.
09:59:44 That was also circulated widely among folks who were anti-mask, in which he did make a lot of policy pronouncements that weren't backed up by his own data, which is unfortunately
not new for this gentleman.
09:59:56 He's also written a lot of. He's written several articles arguing that global warming isn't real.
10:00:03 So I would. I would couch my my belief in his data analysis and around that space we know the global warming is real. We know that masks work.
10:00:13 We know that COVID-19 is a serious disease. We have enough piles of data to get to that.
10:00:19 When you pick and choose your data sources, to come to a conclusion, and you ignore the limitations of that data, you can come to poor conclusions.
10:00:28 That can lead the poor policy.
10:00:31 Thank you. Great!
10:00:36 I do have a question. You know, I recently had Covid and took Pacsovid.
10:00:45 And over the course of taking back slow, but heard from a number of people that watch out for rebound, and I'm just wondering what you're hearing or know of like kind of the
rebound effect of the maybe too short run of pacsovid people are saying.
10:00:59 Maybe we should have taken it for longer than 5 days. So I'm just.
10:01:04 Curious about that, having symptoms of rebound. But I'm you know, kind of more heightened to it.
10:01:10 And now that I got sensitized to it, I've been having more conversations about it, and I'm a little bit unclear as to the effectiveness of Pacslobid over 5 days.
10:01:21 Sure. So what's been commonly referred to as part of the rebound is actually probably better termed covid.
10:01:28 19 rebound, so most people who get COVID-19 get a certain a spike in their viral load, but then goes down slowly over time.
10:01:37 There is a group of people, probably about 5 to even up to 10% who actually get a Bimodal Peak in their viral loads.
10:01:46 So they get a a junk, it goes down, and then it goes back up, and their symptoms recur, and we used to see this a lot more earlier in the COVID-19 pandemic.
10:01:54 You'd have folks who had Covid. They seem to be getting better, and then they got a lot worse, and they actually often got hospitalized in that time period when we were tracking
each individual Covid case that we were aware of we'd see that relatively often impacts loaded.
10:02:08 What we have seen is that some people, not all have what probably in the 5 to 10% range, do get this subsequent surgery in viral replication after they've already completed
their pacsovid.
10:02:21 And they actually can become infectious again. That's LED to the common misconception that the Pacs login was actually what did that?
10:02:29 But it actually unrelated the tax a little bit. It happens just as often in people who take Px lovat as people who don't.
10:02:35 Okay.
10:02:35 So it's not really caused by the medication.
10:02:39 But the challenge is, if you're one of those people you could become infectious again after your packs a little bit is done, and so that leaves you with the question of What
do you do?
10:02:47 At least at this point. We're not recommending a prolonged course of Pacsovid, or taking it again.
10:02:53 But we do recommend you isolate again. During that subsequent spike if you're feeling so, if you complete your pacs loaded, you've been feeling great you start to feel worse
again.
10:03:03 We recommend taking another Covid test, and if it's positive and you're feeling poorly, we actually recommend you isolate for another 5 days.
10:03:10 During that subsequence Spike the reason, at least at this point, that the FDA is not recommending a repeat course of for those folks is we haven't seen any severe disease in
them, so we haven't seen them get hospitalized or die it seems like that initial course of
10:03:25 Covid is enough to get you through and prevent severe disease.
10:03:28 If you're unlucky enough to have that subsequent spike, but know that you might be contagious if that happens, and so do stay home to the extent that you can, and certainly
wear a mask. If you can't stay home until you're feeling all the way. Better.
10:03:39 Thank you. It was just confusing to me. So that was helpful.
10:03:43 It's super confusing. Okay, so thank you for asking.
10:03:48 Alright. Well, I have lots of I don't know.
10:03:52 Hmm!
10:03:51 Kind of grim news today. Lots of sort of vague questions that come off that just one before we.
10:03:57 I can save most of my vague questions, for after the listener questions, but wondering, as opposed to the 500 deaths per day, we're seeing in the country from Covid-nineteen.
10:04:06 Do you know what the flu fatality rate has been at all this year?
10:04:10 Gosh! I don't have it on the tip number for the national flu fatality, but it's a fraction of that that we are seeing.
10:04:21 Certainly, even when we look at you know, that is that COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death, and the nation in the last year.
10:04:28 That's actually 2,022 data for the nation.
10:04:31 2021 for the State and Jefferson County nowhere near that. But I can go ahead and get the the death data for this last year as well.
10:04:41 It just kind of puts that horrible number into sharper relief.
10:04:45 But yeah, but I'd love to hear your response to the listener questions.
10:04:48 Okay, so looking at our Kptz questions this year or this week, the first couple we're all about basically whether you need another booster.
10:05:01 So for individuals who got their most recent booster, I'm assuming in these questions that bivalent booster in fall of last year.
10:05:09 There's a lot of questions we get this pretty regularly at the Health Department, too.
10:05:13 Of, do I need another one for instance, I'm gonna go on a cruise spoon, and I'm worried about getting infected.
10:05:18 Is it time for me to get another booster? And at this point there is not a recommendation to get any additional booster shots at this point the primary reason for that is the
boosters are actually still holding up really well, they're still holding up very well, at preventing
10:05:33 severe disease, and they are still reducing your risk of symptomatic disease.
10:05:37 But it doesn't reduce it to 0. So we do still recommend layering your precautions, making sure you're up to date masking if you're in crowded settings, taking packs a little
bit.
10:05:47 If you get sick testing, if you get sick, all of those things together can reduce your risk.
10:05:52 And of course, working on your airflow, making sure that your Sp.
10:05:54 Is are well ventilated to the extent that you can if you do all of those things together, we should be able to prevent certainly severe disease from COVID-19.
10:06:04 And we can reduce. We can prevent many, infections from COVID-19.
10:06:08 But there's not currently a recommendation for another booster.
10:06:10 But if you haven't had your bivalent yet, if you got your booster in the fall, and it was monovalent.
10:06:17 If it wasn't the new bivalent booster.
10:06:18 Then definitely go forward and get your bivalent. If it wasn't the new bivalent that makes a huge difference in reducing your risk of reducing your risk of symptomatic disease
and severe disease as well, this next person was asking about treatments for
10:06:30 covid-nineteen so we talked about the most common and most popular one, which is tax a little bit, and they want to know if there was anything else available.
10:06:36 The only other currently approved treatment for COVID-19 is moleculular.
10:06:43 That's another oral medication for COVID-19 for outpatient COVID-19.
10:06:46 That medication is not as effective as Pax level, but it is an option for people who have a medical contract indication to Pax a little bit.
10:06:55 So it's a it's an option that's out there, and we do still use it. But it's not as effective.
10:07:00 So it's not our first line. The other thing that people were asking around that is kind of the pros and cons of taking these medications.
10:07:09 So the major pro of is, it reduces your risk of severe disease of COVID-19.
10:07:16 It also reduces your risk of transmitting COVID-19.
10:07:19 Such lowers your viral loans, you're less likely to pass it on to others, and you are also less likely to get long Covid from your covid.
10:07:27 19 infection. So all of those things together are a good reason to go ahead and get a prescription for Pax lovat.
10:07:33 If you are eligible at this point, it's only available for people who are at risk of severe disease.
10:07:38 For COVID-19 and that's particularly people who have underlying conditions.
10:07:42 People who are over 65. Anyone who's immunosuppressed, and to some extent people are at risk of Covid, severe Covid.
10:07:50 19. If you're not up to date in your vaccine, so if you fall into any of those groups, we definitely recommend contacting your primary care provider, or if you don't have a
primary care provider calling the State line, and they can help you access the treatments that are available most commonly
10:08:05 packed, Silvid. But Malnu pure beer is an option.
10:08:08 The primary. Yeah, go ahead.
10:08:08 Dr. Barry and I just say I had a really positive experience getting packs.
10:08:14 Covid online at the color, that Department of Health online portal.
10:08:20 I didn't. It was like a really simple process where I went online.
10:08:24 And they said, Stay online, someone will be with you in 15Â min.
10:08:29 And then an angel a Rnp. Shut up you know, nurse, practicers, nurse, practitioner, showed up and asked me a bunch of questions, and then did this for my husband.
10:08:38 It was super slick process, and they called the prescription into our local, most local pharmacy and super easy.
10:08:46 So people have been asking me how we did that with Covid and I've been telling a lot of people that it's really a slick tool.
10:08:55 They have going.
10:08:55 Yeah, it's a really good. It's really good program.
10:09:02 Yeah, me, too.
10:08:59 I wish that level of access to care was available for more medical issues, but for now, if if you come down with Covid, whether it's from home, Antigen test, or Pcr, you can
call that line, and they will get you medication, sent to your nearest pharmacy, if you're
10:09:15 eligible. The main reason why a provider has to be involved is Paxilov.
10:09:22 It does interact with several medications. So depending on what you're on, they might ask you to pause a medication if it's possible, or they might say that you're not eligible
for Pax Lovid and might recommend something like monopoly, for you so give them a call talk it
10:09:36 through it's definitely worth considering. If you're at all at high risk for severe disease from COVID-19.
10:09:42 There are other medications we use in the inpatient settings.
10:09:46 So if people are actually have the severe disease are admitted that includes some antiviral medications that includes some steroid medications, those are really the mainstays
of treatment, and then supportive care to help people breathe primarily, that's most of how we treat covid-nineteen and it
10:10:04 is working well, it reduces the risk of severe disease, but you know each of these different interventions are not 100%.
10:10:12 And so we have to layer them on top of each other to reduce morbidity.
10:10:15 And mortality due to this virus. The vast majority of deaths that we're still seeing from COVID-19 are in people who are not either have never been vaccinated, or who are not
up to date in their vaccines, and so the best way we could reduce the mortality from
10:10:29 COVID-19 is to stay up to date in our vaccines, and then beyond that, if we could mask in close quarters that would make a huge difference.
10:10:37 And then the last one is actually getting treatments. Most of the deaths that we're seeing.
10:10:40 Unfortunately we see more deaths in Clown County than we see in Jefferson are individuals who did not access treatment either due to social circumstances, lack of awareness
of the treatment or difficulty acting it.
10:10:53 So making sure, we want to make sure. Everybody knows that they can call that state line if you're ever having trouble getting it from your provider, you can call the State.
10:11:00 They'll get it for you. Unfortunately, the monk antibodies we leaned on earlier in the panandemic are no longer effective against circulating variants.
10:11:09 So it's really just the oral medications. At this point we talked a bit about the problematic Cochrane Review, and the even more problematic interpretations of that limited
date.
10:11:21 The other questions. We had. This person said recently, I keep hearing about people getting COVID-19.
10:11:29 Despite being up to date, which can still happen as we've talked about being up to date, reduces your risk of getting COVID-19.
10:11:36 But it doesn't make it 0. This person was asking all of my vaccine so far have been Pfizer.
10:11:41 Should I get a Moderna boooster at this point?
10:11:46 If you're up to date. If you got your bivalent booster, we are not recommending additional boosters, but down the road when it comes to next fall, which is likely the time that
we'll be seeing additional boosters for COVID-19 there is some possible benefit of switching
10:12:01 formulation we've seen some early data. That kind of certainly blended immunity.
10:12:06 If it's if you had the unfortunate experience of getting COVID-19 plus vaccines, as your strongest immunity and some increased immunity from mixing your formulations of vaccines,
so it might it would be reasonable to try to get a moderna in the fall that said I am
10:12:21 the very curious to see which vaccine we're gonna lean on.
10:12:25 Come, fall! My guess is that we will move towards one or the other.
10:12:30 Certainly Moderna is the only one who has promised price controls on their vaccine.
10:12:34 Come falls like that will be leaning on that one unless Pfizer decides to join them in that. And certainly I hope they do.
10:12:42 You might have heard. There's been some discussion from the companies that manufactured these vaccines to dramatically increase the costs of the vaccine after we leave the state
of emergency.
10:12:54 Certainly. That's something that your public health officials struggle strongly, rally against.
10:13:00 And we're kind of pushing as hard as we can against that.
10:13:02 But we need more people to speak out about that. These are vaccines that were funded by the Federal Government, and so making a ton of money off of them at the expense of people
who need them.
10:13:11 Just doesn't make any sense. And is frankly unethical.
10:13:15 So we're gonna be pushing hard against that.
10:13:17 We encourage everyone listening now to do that too, and that actually probably brings me to the next question, which is this person?
10:13:27 Asks, have public health departments around the country pushed back against the Federal Government's plan to withdraw funding for vaccines and home tests.
10:13:35 Come the middle of May. How did the Feds determine that the pandemic was over with hundreds of citizens still dying every day?
10:13:40 And how much funding will Jefferson County Public Health Department lose?
10:13:45 As a result of the lifting of these emergency measures, so as far as are we pushing back.
10:13:50 Yes, I do think there's room for a bit of nuance there which is, I don't actually believe we need to be in a constant state of emergency.
10:14:02 I don't think the pandemic is over, obviously, but I also don't think we can stay in a constant state of emergency.
10:14:08 I don't think we need constant mandates to move forward, but what we do need is thoughtful policy to prevent the losses that will come if we don't put policy in place to kind
of be a backstop to what we've gotten used to in the pandemic so in the
10:14:26 pandemic, as we just talked about on this call.
10:14:29 We've gotten used to being able to call for packs a little bit and be able to access a healthcare provider and get free medication to get 3 tests to get free vaccines.
10:14:38 All of those are good interventions, and policy could be put in place, particularly at the Federal level, to shore those things up.
10:14:46 One of the things we also talked about on this program before is there is funding for telehealth for veterans at this point, where you can if you're a vet and you live in, you
know, Quil Scene, you can get telehealth now to get your specialty care where you used to have
10:15:02 to drive all the way to Seattle to get it, to get to the Seattle.
10:15:06 Bi. I think those are pending changes that are worth keeping.
10:15:12 We should make sure our vets don't have to drive super long distances to to get their care.
10:15:16 We should make sure that vaccines are available and reasonably priced, and we we could do that as a country, as a state, and I am hopful that some policies will go.
10:15:30 It will be put in place to minimize the disruption that come as the state of state of emergency is lifted.
10:15:37 But that will only happen if we all demand it. If we, if we just kind of wait until till May to speak up, then I think what we'll be in for some hurt.
10:15:51 Primarily some of the most vulnerable in our community.
10:15:53 Will be, you know, I can afford a covid.
10:15:55 19 test at the pharmacy, but many people in our community can't.
10:15:59 And so we need to speak out about making sure those critical interventions are available even after the state of emergency is lifted.
10:16:07 The last question this person asked was, what kind of funding we were gonna lose as a department after the lifting of the state of emergency, and that is one place we actually
have already lost any additional pandemic funding.
10:16:21 So our the funding for our department is not tied to the Federal state of emergency.
10:16:26 So we're just doing all this work in addition to our normal stuff without additional Covid.
10:16:32 19 related funding. But what the Federal state of emergency is making possible is getting free tests and to the people of Jefferson County, making sure vaccines are free and
available, and I hope that legislative fixes will be put in place to reduce the pain that many of us will feel when
10:16:50 those, state of emergency orders are limited to make sure that these necessary treatments are still available to everyone in our community.
10:16:59 And then last question was about the COVID-19 test kits.
10:17:05 And how do you know if they are still viable? If they haven't expired?
10:17:10 Some have at this point the simplest solution is when you take a swap, if you can see the control line it is is still likely effective test.
10:17:19 But if, when you run your COVID-19, test, your control line is funky, looking very light, not there at all.
10:17:28 Then you need a new COVID-19 test, and you can still get them free from the State.
10:17:31 So I go ahead and get some before they take that program away so that you can make sure that you have some as we move into May, and you can still get them from us so you could
still get them from Jefferson, County public health.
10:17:43 We're still distributing them throughout the county. So if you have expired and you can't see your control line anymore, get some from us.
10:17:50 I generally at this point don't pay a lot of attention to the expiration date on the box, because it's been extended so many times, and most are actually still viable long after
their expiration date but the trick is can you see, a control line when you run it if you can see
10:18:05 that it's probably still a good test. With that I'm happy to take any more questions.
10:18:11 Well, I'd like to follow up on one thing you said.
10:18:15 Well, a couple of things, I guess. I are we not in in any endemic stage now?
10:18:20 I mean, it's a little bit of semantics, but I guess I mean I'm fully supportive, and I want to know how I can amplify the you know, preserving the slack in our system, preserving
the nurse practitioners.
10:18:31 So someone can call and get pax lovid that kind of slack.
10:18:34 I mean is that something that should be bundled into foundational public health as we go through that on, and a state conversation.
10:18:42 I'm just wondering if there's a succinct message that we should take, you know, as we foray into the political world.
10:18:49 Sure. Yeah, I think we are in a different phase of the pandemic.
10:18:54 It is appropriate to move out of the emergency, but as we move out of the emergency, how do we make sure that the most vulnerable in our community are still cared for, and that
they have access to essential medication, which is partly public health and partly public health and
10:19:09 partly health care system reform, making sure that essential health care is available to the public.
10:19:15 So that's probably more along the lines of what I would advocate for is, you know, adequate funding of the public health system.
10:19:23 Whether we're in a pandemic or not.
10:19:25 And adequate funding of assistant health care services for the public, which are slightly different things, but they are interconnected.
10:19:35 Great thank you, and then I would love to hear more from you about what, how public health is going to navigate this masking change that's coming up as you work through that
with public health.
10:19:48 So maybe next time you join us, talk a little bit about that conversation.
10:19:50 Absolutely.
10:19:52 Great any other questions. Okay, well, thank you so much. Dr.
10:19:58 Barry, what we'll see a little bit. We've given what a lot of time here.
10:20:02 Thank you.
10:20:03 Willie got 11Â min.
10:20:05 I know, giving me a lot of time, and I don't have much to report out on.
10:20:09 Unfortunately so as always happy to take questions, I'm nothing on the COVID-19 front from emergency management.
10:20:16 I will use a little bit of my time to let folks know that March is tsunami preparedness month, so we will be conducting the tabletop exercise on a tsunami response.
10:20:26 I'm here within de M. Here, and the next couple of weeks I'd really encourage folks, especially those who live relatively close to the shoreline head, to our website.
10:20:37 Check, out. Make sure you know whether or not you're in the tsunami inundation zone.
10:20:42 The permanent natural resources, without some really excellent maps on that.
10:20:47 So encourage folks to again pick charge of their own personal preparedness, and be informed.
10:20:51 Be aware of their own individual hazards, and make the appropriate plan for that.
10:20:57 If you're in the inundation zone, have a tsunami.
10:21:00 Go, Kit. I know where to get out and get safety.
10:21:02 Should that occur? I'm the other thing I will make note of on lots of talk recently about the bridge closures.
10:21:09 I'm coming up in Austin. We're starting to do some internal planning around that.
10:21:15 I'm typically around both messaging and making sure that we're able to potentially get folks on off of the Peninsula should they require a more advanced medical services, will
be spinning up a planning group on that and expect to hear a lot more about that over the next
10:21:29 coming months definitely, something on our radar other than that.
10:21:33 Sorry I can't take up the full 11Â min that's closer, just for one.
10:21:37 But I am happy to answer any questions.
10:21:39 No, that's great. Well, we've got other other stuff, certainly.
10:21:44 And it's also march is also Red Cross month, and we just read a proclamation.
10:21:51 So I would amplify. As I said I would, and I'd love to hear about how de M works with the Red Cross, that there are only 5 Red Crossw volunteers left in Jefferson County.
10:22:01 We desperately need volunteers for this critical services.
10:22:05 So if you are interested, you can check it out at 1.800 Red Cross or Red cross.org. And Willie, can you talk a little bit about how Red Cross works with DM.
10:22:13 Yeah. Well, first and foremost, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that I got my career in emergency management started with Red Cross I'm first as an Americorps member and then
as a first time staff member an organization whose mission is very near and dear to my heart and then in this
10:22:27 role. I'm an organization. We work really closely with.
10:22:32 The Red Cross is our first point of contact. When there are books affected individuals due to a disaster who need direct assistance, and a lot of folks know Red Cross from their
work during large emergencies like in Hurricane Katrina to perform sandy but they respond to disasters every
10:22:50 day whenever there's been a single family fire that family doesn't have any word, though, and they may have lost all of their food, all of their clothing on the Red Cross can
provide direct assistance to them, and they also open up a mask shelters after larger fires everything from big
10:23:07 wildfires, apartment fires as well. So whenever there's been a family who's been affected by a fire even during the the windstorms back in November there were a few families
who had trees fall in their homes their homes, were rendered unlivable on the
10:23:19 Red Cross was the all we made to provide that direct line assistance I'm gonna help those families out.
10:23:25 So and work really closely with them there. One of our lead volunteers here in de M.
10:23:31 Andy, is also the lead. Red Cross volunteer. I'm here in the county as well, so he wears 2 hats and we're very happy to have him.
10:23:38 But we desperately need more help on that front to the around.
10:23:43 The sheltering piece. So if we ever needed to open a disaster shelter here in the county, we call on Red Cross, we don't have a lot lot of capacity here locally for that on
those volunteers would most likely come from either Clone county etc.
10:23:58 County, but the more capacity we can build locally the better we will.
10:24:03 We do have shelter supplies at the Red Cross has partnered with us on stationed here at D.
10:24:09 Em in headlock. So we have the logistics taken care of.
10:24:12 We have the infrastructure here. We just need the people so reach out to us.
10:24:15 At D. E. M. Reach out to Red Cross. If you're looking to help on that front.
10:24:20 Absolutely great partner, and I'm glad the Commissioners are supporting a proclamation in this awareness, as well.
10:24:25 And just to throw one little anecdote that Andy, who was here this morning, as we read the proclamation, shared, there was, a unfortunately a house fire recently when he was,
and he is the only responder we have locally, so they still got a response from Red Cross but they had to wait
10:24:39 for considerably more time for a volunteer from Fallen county to come. So it really impacts our neighbors.
10:24:44 Having having these volunteers at the ready, one other question for you, you kind of mentioned something that came up in our meeting with Washdot last week about the bridge
closures coming up.
10:24:54 And that's what Chief Black called an incident management team, and it sounds like that's the table that you're putting together right now.
10:24:59 And I just want to make sure you invite East Jefferson Fire and rescue to that and our other emergency service providers. So we can make sure we have solutions for dealing with
those that really need emergency transportation.
10:25:11 Yeah, no. Absolutely. It's gonna be a a whole community response for lack of a better term.
10:25:17 So they absolutely will be included, will be putting the other a planning team to make sure that all potential issues and contingencies are addressed. But yeah, the big one
is being able to move medical patients on by far for us. So.
10:25:29 And while Washd was not able to commit too much, they did commit to having some person sit on that table.
10:25:36 If we convene it, so make sure you engage with Steve Work, or someone, you know, and with it on his team.
10:25:43 Yep, absolutely.
10:25:43 Other questions for Willie no, I just say I think it's generally a good thing that you don't have a lot for us, Willie we don't want there to be a lot to talk about in emergency.
10:25:53 Good. I'm glad you feel the same way. That's the way.
10:25:55 Yes, we're happy with that. Okay, I guess if there's nothing else we'll give everyone 5Â min back in their day.
10:26:05 3 little Birds. Our request from for Kptz and and Dr.
10:26:10 Barry. Willie will see you in 2 weeks, and thank you so much.
10:26:12 Have a great thing.
10:26:17 Bring me back in all right. Well, let's see. Sorry I'm computer issues.
10:26:24 We've got a 1030 bid opening, so maybe we stick a little.
10:26:26 Break until 1030. So let's recess until 1030, and we'll open the bid for the publication of county Legal.
10:31:02 It's mostly practice 10,000 wraps. Alright.
10:31:08 Welcome. Back. Everyone. Well, I'll call this meeting of the Board of County Commissioners back into session we've got 2 big opening this in front of us.
10:31:15 First, the bid opening for the publication of county legal notice.
10:31:19 Carlyn, would you like camera?
10:31:23 I'm here. Okay, how's your camera?
10:31:30 Oh, it zooms in on me!
10:31:37 Okay, there we go. Okay, in between the coffee mug and the laptop.
10:31:46 So annually per Rcw. The county must designate an official county newspaper by the first meeting in April.
10:31:53 So on January sixteenth I put out a call for bids.
10:31:57 The bidders have had 5 weeks to prepare their bids.
10:32:01 We received 2 bids, what I'll do today is open.
10:32:04 The bids and read out a few of the highlights. I'll prepare a bid comparison and bring it back next week.
10:32:14 Alright. So the first one we have. It is Pennsylvania Daily News.
10:32:24 Can you talk about as conversation?
10:32:28 For this. Oh, of course, so we put this out there.
10:32:31 But usually historically, only. Peninsula Daily News and the Jefferson County Leader supply bids.
10:32:42 To want more information. I'm just looking at the bid.
10:32:45 Okay. So the first one is from.
10:32:49 Pencil. Daily News. I'll read off the.
10:32:54 So they have a bit of $3 per column inch.
10:32:58 Their columns are 1.0 7 inches.
10:33:03 They it says they have 1,200, and 79 copies in circulation, and 2,631 electronic subscriptions.
10:33:15 I also had them due to add sample ads, and how much they would charge us for that. So they've supplied that.
10:33:25 The next one is from Jefferson County leader.
10:33:40 Yeah. Cover, letter.
10:33:44 They have done $8 and 50 cents per column inch, and their column with this 1.5 8 inches they.
10:33:57 They put down the 5,509 copies in circulation, and 210 of those 210 electronic subscriptions.
10:34:07 And they've submitted.
10:34:11 To sample ads as requested, so I'll go ahead and prepare these and provide a side-by-side comparison column for you for you to review at next week's meeting.
10:34:21 Thank you. Thank you so much.
10:34:27 Oh, yes, we're gonna have to wait a minute, Mark, since we've posted it today.
10:34:31 1045. So, thanks for being here. Thank you for that.
10:34:36 We'll get kind of analysis of these bids.
10:34:38 It's hard to compare price per per column inch.
10:34:42 Often they're so different. So computing, okay, look forward to that.
10:34:47 Thank you very much. I guess we've we've got a riff for 10Â min.
10:34:53 My computer is rebooting for the fourth time this morning.
10:34:54 This loner, so I can't go into my calendar yet.
10:34:59 But, mark you, wanna look back at last week and tell us what you didn't sure about last week was a little sent on formal meetings, but there was a fair amount of administrative
work going on.
10:35:08 So on Monday, the 20 seventh, with the board all day.
10:35:13 On the 20 eighth we had the Jefferson County Exit Conference with the State Auditor.
10:35:18 That audit report has been released this morning, and we prepared a formal response to that audit report that's on our Facebook site.
10:35:28 And a press release has also been distributed to our local media, and then, of course, the farewell for and Dean, a great event.
10:35:41 Sorry to see her go, but looking forward to the work she's gonna do where she's going, and then.
10:35:49 We had a audit huddle to go over our response in the afternoon.
10:35:56 On that day. Once the execut conference was done. Then, on the first, Kate and I and Michael Mark, we had a follow-up discussion on that Usda audit, and when Kate says it's
complex, she's she means it grants not audit oh, yeah, I'm sorry yeah, i've got audit. On the brain. Yeah, that's a very complex. Grant.
10:36:23 I'm so grateful that we have Michael Mark handling that for us. Then we had our strategic plan project team meeting we're making pretty good progress there.
10:36:28 And all staff email went out to our staff. I'm giving them a heads up that they would be asked to complete a survey for the benefit of our consultant and our strategic planning
project team.
10:36:42 I also send an email out to our local stakeholders the ones for which will have very done schedule one.
10:36:52 On one. Interviews, half hour in length, with each a sizeable number of folks, and I'm receiving replies from some of those folks this morning.
10:37:01 I also sent a link to our social pinpoint page to Cindy Brooks, and she's gonna send that out to the local business community in her newsletter.
10:37:11 So hopefully, we'll have a number of local businesses fill up the survey as well.
10:37:18 Then, in the afternoon on Wednesday met with Chris Coy to go over the Central Services teamsters contract to prepare for sitting down for negotiations.
10:37:29 Then on March second Thursday, Carolyn and I visited Campo Site.
10:37:36 Never been there but that's the venue that we're gonna use for our strategic planning board retreat and our senior leader retreat that followeds the Board retreat.
10:37:47 Very nice facility, very nice, venue weekly check in with Chris Coyne.
10:37:53 The afternoon, and then check in with Apple Martin in the morning.
10:37:59 On Friday, and then with Brent late in the afternoon on Friday and good to have rent back, although a fair amount of staff turmoil.
10:38:08 Greeted him as he returned, yeah, that's a tough slog.
10:38:17 There. Alright! Well, that was my week. Thank you.
10:38:19 Great. Thank you. Still wait till 1045 to go into the bid.
10:38:25 Opening I guess I'll try to riff on my week without anything open and so I'll add later.
10:38:30 But I was with you guys all yet last Monday, and then Tuesday.
10:38:36 The big thing was the Dnrs entertainment testimony I'd say most everyone was in favor of it.
10:38:46 I testified, I think, a little more in favor than I really, that I represented in our conversation.
10:38:52 But you know, continuing to look at it and seeing the dearth of other options.
10:38:57 Basically, I think, I said words to the effect of 100% of nothing suboptimal.
10:39:02 I love outcomes where I've used it all the time.
10:39:04 Now, but feel fairly positive about that, but we still do have a letter we haven't until the fifteenth to send our nuanced written testimony, so I don't know that letter that
we had the draft of was essentially the same a lot of other people sent in so I think
10:39:19 drafting. Our own letter is probably the the best course, and I'd like to talk a little bit today about I would assume that you would want to take a first stab at the draft,
Heidi, but we can we can talk about the message that we wanna convey
10:39:37 there as well. I also went on Tuesday that Tuesday to Ann's moving on party.
10:39:44 Really excited to have sorry to leave the county, but I think the role she's taking on a dbh is gonna be great.
10:39:53 So I'm really excited about it. Let's see, what else did I do? On Friday I met.
10:40:01 We met with our ongoing HUD. How's America Conference?
10:40:08 So basically HUD, though house America is over, you know, in our seventh haven completes our 22 people that have moved from homelessness into Brexit housing.
10:40:19 They would still like to continue to meet on the regular, just to keep the dialogue going.
10:40:25 So we'll keep. You know. We have 3 members from the Housing Fund Board that occasionally come to those meetings, and we're gonna just continue doing them.
10:40:34 You know, it's like it gives us a chance to say like the amis are all screened up, and they're too low to be representative of what? What could happen, you know.
10:40:48 I mean, like folks that are at the 80 to 120% to a Mi can't find a place to live here, and people that are at 60% am.
10:40:55 I I mean, we're having. I push the point that I think I mentioned last week that we've had a high number of people who are exiting homelessness not qualify for Seventh Haven
because their income is a couple of bucks too high per month, so even the homeless are
10:41:13 over our homeless housing anniversary of 60%.
10:41:16 So!
10:41:22 Sorry. I'm just. What else did I do?
10:41:29 I don't know. Let's look forward as I log back into the computer a little bit. We still have a few minutes left, Kate. You wanna tell us about your upcoming week.
10:41:41 This week. See? Tomorrow I have a maritime Washington National Heritage Area Advisory Board Meeting.
10:41:51 Then I have an orientation for the State Board of Health that I'm meeting with the Fare Board, and that wraps up tomorrow.
10:42:02 Wednesday I had to Olympia for the first.
10:42:05 My first State Board of Health meeting on the way home.
10:42:10 From that I will be attending a child care meeting as well as a webinar, and then that is, it's a researcher at Udb.
10:42:22 Looking at impacts of noise, particularly on the west end of Jefferson County.
10:42:28 And then try and get back for the Jefferson Healthcare presentation with the Chamber of Commerce at the Maritime Center tomorrow evening.
10:42:36 The long day. I'm not sure I'll be able to do.
10:42:44 Thursday. Let's see. Bye, bye, Olympic Workforce Development Council meeting, and that a fair Board meeting.
10:42:55 There's even I do plan to attend that which Greg you mentioned.
10:43:00 13, potentially attending to. So maybe we can just designate a representative to speak on behalf of the county I think we' group, Mark, are you planning to attend that?
10:43:22 As well, which one Friday morning, healthier together, the aquatic center I do plan to return that. Okay.
10:43:41 I'm gonna be in transit to a meeting in Seattle, and I don't always have great re meeting Friday midday.
10:43:43 And Wasack legislative update and nothing scheduled too late in the afternoon.
10:43:51 That is my week right? Oh, hold on! I've got my phone.
10:43:57 I can finish last week I'll talk just, and then we'll hit the bit opening out of the way.
10:44:02 The Olympic Area Agency on aging meeting I was planning on Thursday was cancel due to lack of issues to discuss, met with some.
10:44:13 I did the exit interview with the Jefferson County Audits.
10:44:19 Well, yeah, we've got a press release that I I will.
10:44:21 Let's speak for that went to my first broadband advisory meeting with with Wasack, and it was interesting where I left, thinking, Oh, wow!
10:44:34 We've really come out ahead, there's a lot of agencies that are just getting into it into broadband apps, and most of them are Michael, whose guy from Wisconsin, Michael, he
was here Michael Gaffney was there, but Wazu was really taking a big role with the Broadband
10:44:57 action teams and getting them set up and doing some studies and everything.
10:45:01 Almost everyone was really concerned about open access and 2 a one everywhere, every other county was working with private companies which just seemed so much more challenging
than working with the public agencies.
10:45:13 So it made me really, really appreciate the work and responsiveness that our Jefferson, Pd.
10:45:18 Has been doing. It's interesting. I just interject that Lincoln County was the first county to take advantage of the same legislation that the Pud did, but they're choosing
not to be an ISP.
10:45:30 They're working with. Hi. ISP is only infrastructure.
10:45:37 Yeah. And they're having all sorts of open access issues.
10:45:39 Cause, no company, even without someone else's money, wants to build something and then give it to a competitor.
10:45:45 So it's just a a fundamental flaw in the reasoning.
10:45:47 I think, of expecting a private company to want to build open access, infrastructure.
10:45:52 Okay. Well, that will. We can talk a little bit more about it, and how great our beauty is. Later.
10:45:57 But it is 1045. So let's invite Mark.
10:46:00 You want to join Mark at the table, and we can turn it over to you for this.
10:46:05 This bid opening in my neighborhood no Creek Road, so Hi!
10:46:11 I'm Mark, Therson. I'm the project manager.
10:46:14 This is a a bit opening for construction of the Snow Creek Road.
10:46:20 My opposed 0 point 8 4 culvert replacement, and so I'll open the bids, and we'll do a bit analysis and come back to the Commissioners with the recommendation of award sounds.
Good.
10:46:33 So we got 3 bids. The first bid is from Scarcela.
10:46:48 How did you get into the courthouse with that thing?
10:47:04 And the bit amount is $1,171,988 and 40 cents.
10:47:18 Can you remind us what the engineers estimate was? Engineers?
10:47:20 Estimate is $1,445,000, $600.
10:47:42 And the next bit is from Nordland construction, northwest.
10:47:49 I know.
10:48:05 And the bit amount is $1,559,945 and 0 cents.
10:48:27 And we have a bid from Brooklyn Brook.
10:48:57 For sure!
10:49:02 And the bit amount is $1,092,394 and 0 cents.
10:49:15 Great, and we understand there's more analysis to do to determine if they're responsible bids and all that.
10:49:20 So, you think in the next week or so? Oh, yes, it would be within a week.
10:49:25 Great. Thank you so much. Mark any questions for Mark.
10:49:28 Thanks, Mike, thank you. Great to see you. Hmm! Appreciate your time.
10:49:35 Look forward to your return. Glad we're getting some local companies bidding.
10:49:38 Yeah, indeed. Yeah. And well, below engineers, estimate is, yeah, that's good to see.
10:49:44 Okay, well, I guess I can continue to my haphazard.
10:49:53 Yeah, totally. Yeah. I went to a community build event. Palindrome.
10:50:03 Wednesday afternoon. That was great kind of a celebration of the work.
10:50:06 They're doing so far, and continuation and excansion.
10:50:11 And it's a great, you know 3 generations of people there working the hammer nails and do what they can to work on our housing issues.
10:50:19 So really positive events. Agenda planning with Mark, I went to the Povc meeting on Thursday to I don't know.
10:50:33 Put my neck in the guillotine and talk about the Olympic terrace to yeah, that was, there was.
10:50:42 There's still a lot of frustration over there that we didn't support.
10:50:44 The change. And I I did say I'd come back and make sure I but I stood the legal opinion of our department that the the ask to to mandate construction traffic routes.
10:51:00 You know the change. They wanted to make to the Platt.
10:51:04 We got a couple couple of notes about that. What the legal opinion was not that it would change.
10:51:10 My perception of whether it was an appropriate change to make.
10:51:13 You know, and whether responsive to the work that was in front of us in a quasi-judicial manner.
10:51:19 So? And have you heard the I haven't yet? No, I've got to just restate it. But do you do, civil deputy? PA is working on an opinion for us.
10:51:30 Oh, okay, yeah, great I was. I thought it was happening, but I had not actually asked it.
10:51:34 Yeah, Barbara emailed them Friday, saying that she'll get it to us this week.
10:51:37 Great. Yeah. And then I talked about HUD already, and those were.
10:51:43 Those were the hypotheses. So, okay, now you can go to your coming week.
10:51:52 Id! Hey! Well, this evening I'm gonna go to part of the National Climate Solution Conference.
10:52:03 That there's a networking dinner tonight at the 7, you know.
10:52:08 Like some folks from our cool. Just going to.
10:52:15 Meet them so, so that's this evening. Tomorrow. In the morning I here is right along with our little oh, good!
10:52:31 But then I said, Well, I think our team is full enough.
10:52:35 I'd rather roll locally with them. So I'm gonna do that tomorrow morning.
10:52:41 And then the afternoon.
10:52:44 I'm gonna record a video for the social pinpoint strategic planning site.
10:52:57 I am on this as part of my tourism.
10:53:01 Coordinating council role. I'm on the subcommittee looking at the strategic plan.
10:53:05 For the Olympic peninsula for tourism.
10:53:09 And I think, yeah, are they reviewing 10 proposals?
10:53:12 And they were. It was fascinating, and they were vastly different.
10:53:18 And so I'll be interested in yeah, as an Rfp.
10:53:26 For the company, and consultants that we're not.
10:53:28 Manage the okay. Sorry. Sorry. I was just saying that I'm on a subcommittee for the strict Olympic Peninsula tourism planning process.
10:53:43 And we have a bunch of proposals that we will be reviewing as a committee tomorrow and spent much of yesterday at my tourism, planning church every week.
10:53:57 I have a different church. But yesterday it was reading 10 proposals from very interesting and different diverse consultants.
10:54:05 So it was nice to see such a range of ideas, and then.
10:54:13 That's also that. So tomorrow or no Wednesday, I have an encumbered lands work group.
10:54:22 So one of the subcommittees or work groups.
10:54:28 I've been on around Dnr forest land issues is this Encumberlands work group organized by Wassak to address the 10 million dollars proviso that came through in last year's legislative
session to help ameliorate the impact of encumbered
10:54:48 lands to the counties, affected by those encumbrances, including Jefferson.
10:54:54 And so we're trying to get to the end of our work together.
10:54:57 But it's continuing. We also have our strategic planning project team meeting on Wednesday.
10:55:06 I have time to write a letter or write write a letter a day.
10:55:11 Bob Nap Expansion. Letter of support that day so I'll block that out.
10:55:15 I plan on going to the same Growler meeting just to listen in that Commissioner Dean mentioned earlier.
10:55:21 And yeah, they're allowed. I hear more. I hear from more people on would be than locally, though about them it's interesting.
10:55:30 And then Wednesday evening, Olympic Discovery Trail Board meeting.
10:55:35 Oh, yeah. And then, Tuesday evening, it's all nights every night this week.
10:55:40 Feels like Tuesday evening is the Marine Resources Committee meeting Thursday.
10:55:47 I'll be in Olympia. The Trust Land Transfer Bill House Bill, 1460.
10:55:52 Made it through the house side. Now it's coming through the Senate side. So the Ag.
10:55:58 And national Resources Committee is having a hearing on Thursday, at 1 30 so I'll be in Olympia most of the day on Thursday, and then Friday.
10:56:07 We have a straight Arn Lao, straight environmental restoration network, local integrating organization meeting at the Red Cedar Hall for most of the day.
10:56:19 And then Saturday night I'm going to the Asp dinner at the chemical schools.
10:56:24 So it's a full week, and it's always a full week, isn't it?
10:56:32 Feels like it this week. I do. So you're welcome, folks.
10:56:38 Yeah, I am trying to cover all the bases. And it's interesting when I start hearing criticism about commissioners.
10:56:45 I'm like. Don't even get me started, you know, trying to spend all the plates and be involved in so many things, and then going deep on things is really makes it's challenging.
10:56:57 It's challenging to be on all the fronts, but also rewarding to see all the good work going on in our community.
10:57:04 So that's this week. Alright. Well, let's see, my week is not as heavy as yours.
10:57:11 I don't have anything on my schedule tomorrow, so I've got a lot of prepping to do for the Housing Fund Board meeting on Friday, so that will.
10:57:17 Take some time, but I mean let's see, Wednesday.
10:57:24 We have the finance meeting for 4 cup prior to the Board meeting for, and then I'm meeting with Judge Mack to talk about him getting his bearings and all that, doing some more
planning Wednesday afternoon with how's it fun board Member just planning for on Friday morning we're
10:57:43 having our second sorry where he just gave me coordinated entry Council Advisory Council Meeting, and we have someone from Congress coming to train and hoping we will emerge
from the tenth with the recommendation for the Housing Fund Board on Advisory Council meeting Members did you
10:58:05 say we're doing that at the Housing Fund Board meeting well, we're making, recommending we're no no, this we should approve.
10:58:12 These recommendations, well, we should have recommendations to bring forward to the whole board.
10:58:17 Okay. After Friday, agenda planning with Mark on Thursday the behavioral health concerortions coming back on on Thursday afternoon at 3 p.
10:58:30 M. Thursday evening. I'll either go to the quilts in Britain, connects community conversation at 6 30, or I'll sit in the audience and not make comment at the fair Board meeting,
where we can maybe talk about that if you have a little time, where you think we're going.
10:58:47 Really curious to see how we can be helpful.
10:58:50 You know, that's lots of communication from all sorts of different, very strong perspective.
10:58:58 Friday, as I said, the coordinated entry housing meeting from the community Conversations Committee is who's sharing that meeting or running that meeting?
10:59:09 And then we have our third meeting of the solid waste planning task force.
10:59:15 Friday afternoon at the Chimpanzee Fire district.
10:59:20 So look forward to that continuation, and I think it follows up a lot on our conversation that we have here about location, potential location kind of when I want to win winnowing
down that group.
10:59:35 And and that's my week, Mark.
10:59:39 How does your week look? Well? All day with you fine folks today and tomorrow senior management team meeting, followed by Risk management Committee.
10:59:51 And then I suspect John Morrows back in town.
10:59:54 So we'll have our first team meeting in a good while, and then at 30'clock I'm gonna get together with about 8 folks to do an implementation review and needs assessment.
11:00:12 And then on Wednesday, the eighth strategic plan project team meeting and then in the afternoon North Olympic Peninsula City Manager County Administrator Ketchup, and then CEO
breakfast with Cindy Brooks at 80'clock on Thursday Agenda
11:00:34 planning with Greg visit to my friendly dentist.
11:00:38 And then I check in with Chris Coy, and then on Friday I'll be attending the healthier together, planning, meeting, and also this week I've got 15.
11:00:48 Agreements to put together. I've started work on revising the the agreement with the fairgrounds, the fair association, you know.
11:01:02 To take a look at the mou that we have with East Jefferson fire and rescue.
11:01:07 It's it's a dated agreement and needs serious updating and then I'm really looking forward to Friday to see what kind of Rp proposals we have for our community wildfire protection
plans that's an effort.
11:01:21 I'd like to get underway. I was hoping that we would have a plan or a series of plans in place before the fire season this year, but because of our difficulty in finding consultants,
our timetables been pushed back so maybe by late August we'll have something so that's my
11:01:40 week I I would neglect to say I only capped this week as well.
11:01:44 On Wednesday evening. Oh, I should mention that I've never done this here in town, but I did go to the Home show at Blue Heron on Saturday community Development and Environmental
Health.
11:01:55 Had a table there, and as I wondered about, I did see a fair amount of traffic at that table, and so it was good that we were there.
11:02:05 That's great. Great insert! And the leader this week, too, about that.
11:02:09 So there was, yeah. I intended to go to the home show, but I had 8 inches of snow and no power.
11:02:16 On Saturday morning. So I decided I'd like to see you later. On Saturday morning.
11:02:25 So I decided yeah, well, I thought the thing started at 10. So I went at 10.
11:02:30 Oh, when the parking lot was jam packed, and it was raining yeah. Well, I thought the thing started at 10, so I went at 100, when the parking lot was jam packed, and it was
raining hard. That's great. So people got out.
11:02:40 And oh, I'm super well attended. And then there was a group in the front that had full of flowers that were free, and so, you know, I grabbed a nice one and took it home and
got some brownie points with my wife and a free brownie points and yeah, so anyway, a nice show and yeah.
11:02:53 and Leezanne Coker was there, and and then Scott, our new pit board member, was Manning, the realtor Booth.
11:03:01 And so yeah, it was a good time. Nice. Do you see the Orca booth?
11:03:03 I did, yeah, actually, yeah, the guy started selling me on it.
11:03:08 And I went well. I worked for and he goes, oh, okay, well, so you yeah.
11:03:14 So we had a nice conversation about all the fires I see when I'm going to Silverdale, and he said, Well, you call him in and report him, and I went well if you're burning yard
waste, it's okay.
11:03:27 As long as the piles. Depending on a day. Yeah, certain diameter or something.
11:03:31 So, yeah, I learned a fair amount. And then they had little displays about what's pulled out of the air.
11:03:38 Pretty scary, and we've got the Woodstow bounty in Jefferson County now, too.
11:03:42 So anyone that has an old wood stove can get thousands of dollars pretty much a free heat pump instead, or many split, you know so the deal. Yeah, great great.
11:03:55 It was not available in Jefferson County for many years, but it is.
11:03:58 Great. Okay. Well, we don't have anything else on the agenda we've got quite a few items this afternoon.
11:04:07 Was that? Do you want to talk about the day Bob letter and the fair board?
11:04:10 Maybe or would do people have something they'd like to address this morning.
11:04:13 We will be talking about the later, and you have some reading material between now and then.
11:04:19 Check your email. Okay? Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, we've got when we oh, gotcha, okay.
11:04:28 Well do we wanna talk about the?
11:04:37 Or change in it. That sounds good. Are you sure you wanna do it?
11:04:41 I feel like I have a lighter week than you. I mean you can do it.
11:04:44 You should do it, Greg, you should do it I feel like I have a lighter week than you. I mean.
11:04:50 You should do it. I feel like I have a lighter week than you. I mean you can do it. You should do it, Greg.
11:04:52 You should. That would be great way you downloading for us, girl. No, no!
11:05:00 Well, I'm turned into a trace of I was trying to do that.
11:05:04 See, bring up this letter.
11:05:09 This is a draft generated by Peter Bails.
11:05:13 Share my screen oops. I think it's similar to a letter that we've sent before.
11:05:24 Okay, my last reboot with had not rejoined the meeting, but I will.
11:05:30 Yoga break! You have to move every 45Â min right?
11:05:43 So they say.
11:05:46 Especially at your age. Greg. Oh, Ouch!
11:05:52 Ouch! Ouch, ouch! Ouch! Ouch!
11:05:55 Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch! Ouch!
11:05:57 Ouch! Owls! The ages jokes feeling very, almost 58 years old.
11:06:08 He referenced that they were well aware of what the Jefferson County Commissioners wanted, which was, you know, as much as possible, preserving the revenue for the during your
taxing districts that are impacted.
11:06:23 And I said, Thank you. That is exactly what our messaging is.
11:06:27 Of course they can't all be there. There's like looking at these particular parcels to brings up things I'd wanna talk about, because it does kind of dovetail with our community
forest efforts, and some of the properties are those properties that we've talked about in
11:06:45 our presentation for Mallory about possible reconvenience.
11:06:50 Whether they're Quimper, the Cape George, Corporal Wilderness parcel, the Anderson State Park Parcel.
11:06:57 That is kind of I believe, in the route of the Olympics.
11:07:01 Yeah, and and the one that's adjacent to the the old equestrian part by the transfer station.
11:07:10 So the 88 per partial. There. So there's a lot of parcels that are not I don't think according to the report you've had now you're not great timber parcels, but you know they're
basically and to be very clear.
11:07:25 There's not enough parcels in the quill scene, and closing fire and school district to do a one-to-one transfer that's just there are.
11:07:36 So I'm still in favor of that basic statement that as much as possible, preserving those trusts.
11:07:43 But I think someone made a good point they aren't the only impacted junior taxing the library, the port, the county, county, rose.
11:07:52 All of these cemetery was there. Cemetery, you know.
11:07:54 Hey, Mike, they're impacted, I think they're pretty aligned with the closing school district and fire district, but many aren't impacted.
11:08:03 So even like that, George Priority would still be in the libraries.
11:08:08 So something better than nothing. I really believe all these lands are encumbered enough that they, Dnr.
11:08:14 Does not want to log them, so it seems like a full throated support of the transfer is reasonable.
11:08:23 Hmm. How they transfer is where I think our I know. Where are they?
11:08:32 Transfer specifically well or kind of the strategy for going through them.
11:08:38 Should that make sense so, and your, in your opinion, what they prioritize in terms of transferring.
11:08:53 Yeah, we we can bring that map up. I mean that we could make specific.
11:08:58 We could be very specific, you know the Cs. The common school parcels that they listed.
11:09:03 We could explicitly say, we think that these that are in the quilts in school, fire and cemetery district, that can verify all that should be prioritized, and then, after that
the State force transfer.
11:09:20 Well, those are the ones that benefit junior tax. Yes, so.
11:09:25 But yeah, I'm sorry. They call them Cs.
11:09:27 I think that's the other trust yeah, it's the shared state the trust that benefits all the schools.
11:09:37 And okay, right? But we're talking about common school lands that we're trading for the State Trust lands.
11:09:45 We're turning this common school plans into the State Forest Trust lands right?
11:09:49 The integrand, exchange, yeah. So we're just talking about common school trust lands that are in the quilts and fire fire school and integrand exchange.
11:10:03 So going through those Cs number ones on their list first and just explicitly making sure and saying like, we want this one, this one, this one, this one.
11:10:11 And then, you know, for any other ones. Do we have a strategy and I mean, I don't know if we wanna.
11:10:20 This is my first brainstorm, and I'm curious your thoughts would be to focus on lands that were identified in our community.
11:10:27 Forestry.
11:10:31 Those would be the personal, not the one on.
11:10:40 So we've talked me through what it means for those parcels.
11:10:42 I get the exchange within the we'll see an area.
11:10:47 But in this case it would be, so. You can't reconvey the school trust land.
11:10:55 So if it's stays in common school we could hurt it.
11:10:59 We they might just give it to us. I don't know.
11:11:01 I don't think that's really there's not a mechanism for that that I'm aware of.
11:11:07 But if we wanted to reconvey them, to manage as parks and Rec.
11:11:14 It would, still it would result in revenue for those I mean.
11:11:18 We don't know what the like, the exact payout will be will be less than if they were managed by Dnr.
11:11:24 And yet Dnr, I think these are still challenging parcels to manage.
11:11:29 They don't really, at least in Mallory's representation.
11:11:31 Of their conversations. There are amenable to these as possible, reconvience for our community forestry process, so could we put them in the exchange and then ask for reconvenience,
or does it yeah, that would facilitate us asking, I mean we don't have to but we couldn't ask those properties to be
11:11:53 conveyed, unless something like that would facilitate us.
11:11:55 Cause they will come in school. There's no reconvenance, because they wouldn't be making any interest right?
11:12:02 And I, yeah, stop sharing. And I can share.
11:12:09 So here's the map. Share.
11:12:16 Here's the map.
11:12:21 So the parcels outlined with the heavy lines in red.
11:12:26 Our common school construct common school parcels, and the Hello are the State forest.
11:12:38 So you can see that the majority of the expansion is county forest boards south side of Dave, on Bay.
11:12:48 Those are the parcels just south of Mary all been to, I think, and so the proposal is to exchange the parcels and.
11:12:58 Or parcels, and red, and what Greg saying is, can we emphasize size, exchanging the parcels in the quilcine school and fire district?
11:13:10 And then, after those double that we can move to the parcels north of Highway 104, which is that?
11:13:22 There's the orbelly sorts there, the one in the circle by point the river valley, and then up north.
11:13:28 Here is the Quimberlass wilderness, the parcels, the east, the western, most parcels in that top circle, and then that long, skinny parcel is the one that's just adjacent to
the transfer station.
11:13:46 Those are all common school lands. Can also be exchanged with these parcels to the south, also the opportunity to purchase other horselands.
11:13:59 We haven't gotten that conversation, yeah. And subsequent to all of this, I did reach out, cause we all, I think the last week ago we talked about.
11:14:11 Mentioned to me that she's very interested in working with the was gonna send us a letter.
11:14:16 So I reached out to her and said, letter and said, letter incoming, and she let me know that because of everything that's going on.
11:14:28 Probably 3 or 4 weeks before we see that letter. So that would be the time to talk about.
11:14:34 You know options where we can.
11:14:37 Another kind of exchange there was, I don't think this letter would be the appropriate place to.
11:14:45 Really, no, it's yeah, but it's part of our strategy and thinking about right?
11:14:50 I mean, like like, if you look at the ones on the Heidi's map, the circle one's up with the head of the dragon.
11:14:58 There, those are 2 that we've talked about for reconvance.
11:15:00 And then also the one kind of in the middle of the blue and the red one that aren't outlined as one of their proposed ones.
11:15:06 That's the Anderson Lake. And so that might be more interesting to us than you know.
11:15:11 The one that straddles 104 is in a couple of different school districts, though the and fired districts, I think the one in bever valleys, Chimichum and Port Letlo.
11:15:21 So it's you know. I mean Port Ludlow was actually impacted by this exchange to the that north one, the Thorndyke property is in the Port Ludlow Fire district.
11:15:30 So it's it's not exclusively, I mean the reason I'm talking, quilting fire is because they are by far the most impacted.
11:15:36 And they're not at a land to make a straight exchange more.
11:15:39 Yeah, I I think we all wanna maximize that.
11:15:46 I think that strategy sounds great. Okay, I can massage a letter I'll draft a letter and send it to you. I'll do it. I think I have a lighter weekly.
11:16:00 So next week we'll have a draft letter on our cause. We have a couple of days.
11:16:05 Yeah, it's gotta be on by the fifteenth, so we'll make sure to bring back a letter for next week.
11:16:10 I'll get it via mark to all of you.
11:16:11 So you can put eyes on it and make comics and drop.
11:16:15 Yeah, that's what we want before we bring it back.
11:16:16 I'm stopping my share. Okay, anything else that on that?
11:16:23 Okay. No, I mean, I would just say that I think at the hearing, you know, it's clear to me that there are encumbrances on a lot of these lands.
11:16:35 So that's what we're going to do it's going to be that we're going to do that already.
11:16:37 So the perceived revenue that would come to these junior taxing districts.
11:16:46 I think in some cases because of the Dnrs regulatory constraints that are already on the property, like I think it was 70% of the parcels in the Exchange and the State force
transfer Trust parcels are constrained by either steep slopes or how was that devil's like thing that was
11:17:09 done? 5%. Yeah. Thorndyke is streams all through it.
11:17:13 I think it's encompassed to a significant in place as well to make the point that it's gonna be so much worse building roads that it's what possible will be realized, since,
like the Fire Commissioners, yeah, they're starting to understand that like oh, it's not like a
11:17:33 1 million dollars sitting there. It's like, you know, whittle it down, or maybe $200,000.
11:17:38 The same revenue implications that would be if they could have the value of the entire parcel or timber harvest. Opposition.
11:17:49 I think we're kind of quieted during the hearing by pushing, pushing that pushing Bob to to really talk about what would be the revenue if we didn't?
11:18:01 Right Yup, and there's also the movement to get to basically decouple the common school lands from the local process of the inequity.
11:18:17 There, so like in some ways getting some local benefit from those common school lands.
11:18:22 Now. Well, that's still has some value, is timely.
11:18:27 Okay, we could actually come out of this ahead.
11:18:34 Thank you. So hmm, great, thank you both for your work on that.
11:18:40 Okay, so that's the letter of support, I guess we might have time for the ledge update.
11:18:50 Now, if you're prepared I did remember my documents this time.
11:18:54 Hmm!
11:18:59 Alright. So this is specifically the wasack legislative report.
11:19:05 A couple of other things to report on, but happy. Then open up to you guys also.
11:19:11 So in terms of Lossax, the association of county is for legislative priorities.
11:19:17 2 of them are, revise those, or will show up in a budget or not.
11:19:24 So not a lot of action on those. The modernizing jails that is looking good there's some commitment, and to fund that in the Senate budget.
11:19:37 But it is still there in the house that wants to greatly reduce the scope of that.
11:19:43 So, it'll be interesting to see how that shakes out the House and Senate budgets will be out at the end of the month, and we'll see where that lies.
11:19:55 Same with the Federal fund. Exchange for Federal transportation dollars, although that will be.
11:20:00 That's in the wash dot budget for 25 million, but still has to appear, you know, recommended Wash that's recommended, but this still has to appear in households that there's
not been any major resistance to that for policy bills how's the origin company is wednesday this
11:20:19 week so we'll expect to see a lot of bills drop off.
11:20:23 We already did see a lot of bills drop off to get out of finance committees last week.
11:20:28 So I think I told you last week, we're a little concerned, because the Senate version of the Point O.
11:20:34 9. Extension did not move at all in the Senate, but I guess there was some strategy to move the House Bill, so that yes, ask the House to organize, so that provides a little
more to send it back to way and means sent it version for a hearing
11:21:00 let's see the hey Brial health network adequacy.
11:21:08 Bill, Hb. 1515, was pulled, pulled out of rules.
11:21:13 It's a waiting for action anytime. The bill is largely unchanged.
11:21:20 And yeah, I guess some language was clarified that Mcos must find providers to provide services in all regions, and the Mcs.
11:21:30 Are still supporting it, which is a little bit of surprise, but so far that is still happen in it was a surprise on the Electrical Apprenticeship Bill, which was one of the
Nola priorities.
11:21:42 Senator, Saldanha, the sponsor of the bill, had been a little.
11:21:47 No! She dropped this a bill last session that was specifically about people moving to the State of Washington, and how to handle their hours coming into a Washington and Petership
like existing electricians.
11:22:01 Yes, also training some sort or yeah training for this journey level.
11:22:07 And then it got that. Got her. Bill got kind of hijacked by myself.
11:22:13 And others to be about the local issue, which is the the trainees.
11:22:19 And she had not. Really. She was deferring to labor on that and the unions didn't want to acknowledge local trainee issue at the cliff that we're facing.
11:22:31 But she made an amendment to her bill, and it passed without any any trouble delaying that cliff.
11:22:38 Another 2 years, giving time for more training programs to be developed.
11:22:44 And we have a request in for proviso for one of those programs to be developed at Peninsula College.
11:22:50 So that's all. I'm moving along really nicely, right?
11:22:53 Yeah, congratulations. Yeah, that's like a win out of the blue we we didn't even know we're fighting for it. Yeah, that we have put a lot of work in.
11:23:03 But it was just surprising that she decided to drop that amendment.
11:23:08 Greg, I get clarification on the removal of the 1% Property tax Bill.
11:23:15 It does so it changes the current limitation on property tax growth to a maximum of 1%.
11:23:28 Plus population, change and inflation, not to exceed 3% and new construction is still outside of that, and that is where the people I don't understand, but not a new house.
11:23:41 What is the additional population here? I think it's just recognizing that if you have population change you know that could come in the form of more density, more.
11:23:56 You know, isn't necessarily more housing units.
11:24:02 But if that's still captured at 3% population change and inflation, which every year you kind of meet, that not certainly not all places.
11:24:15 I don't know. It's still the 1% plus those 2, so you could easily.
11:24:19 Population is, you know, average 2 or 3%. You're already over the 3.
11:24:28 Local option. Annual decision of what to take.
11:24:34 So we would evaluate our budget and our need we don't perceive tax burden.
11:24:40 And yeah, yeah, and that's been my talking point is that I think there are a lot of counties that won't take it right I won't be in a position to or don't want that burden for
any number of reasons.
11:24:50 But the option is.
11:24:58 And then to my init initiative, brought it down to one.
11:25:03 Then it was challenged in the courts, and the legislature ended up doing this.
11:25:07 1%. Cap it was totally arbitrary it wasn't based on anything, and so it was always seen as kind of a for policy, anyway.
11:25:14 So making it kind of linked to logical factors that influence the cost of doing business is huge and that is why it has been a priority of Lossax ever since the 1% cap was initiated.
11:25:32 And it's interesting because the membership now of wasack is very anti, you know. Increase in taxes.
11:25:41 And so they've actually had a very hard time getting any members of Los Act to support this bill.
11:25:46 Even though it has been a priority, and in our priority statement for years and years, was the number one priority of lost sac.
11:25:56 For many years. The first few years I was involved, and it had no traction, and now it does so.
11:26:02 Yeah. It says, yeah. Interesting conversation. Okay, would that be effective?
11:26:08 The next fiscal year after after approval.
11:26:13 So would that become effective. This one July of this year for the next, I would have to look up when it okay, okay, that's not important. Fact.
11:26:25 Or if there's, you know, sometimes there's a delay, if you adopt it councilmatically, that it won't come into effect for another year, you know.
11:26:35 Let me just see the the issue couple of issues that we talked about.
11:26:42 There's some proposed changes to the reits structure.
11:26:49 And let me. Everything has gotten very controversial at Wasack this year.
11:26:58 It's just more and more polarized, totally divided votes on issues.
11:27:03 But it seems like, now, yeah, exactly. This is Postville.
11:27:13 1628, it would increase. The States reads from 3% to 4% on sales over 5 million dollars, and that would fund additional housing programs.
11:27:31 And that is unclear. Well, there there is. I shouldn't say it's unclear I am unclear on exactly what that would be used for, but it sounds like it would fund existing affordable
housing programs.
11:27:49 Over 5 million dollars. It would come, it would. But it does get redistributed to the counties.
11:27:55 Yeah, how many?
11:27:59 Yeah, yeah, it's a this fiscal report.
11:28:05 Okay. And then also the legislative authority of a local government, city or county.
11:28:11 Could choose to increase their local by up to a quarter percent.
11:28:20 At least half of that revenue would need to be used for capital construction or acquisition of affordable housing, and any remainder could be used for operations, maintenance,
and services related to affordable housing can only be used for permanent housing not temporary transitional or
11:28:39 shelter, so would provide some upgrading costs.
11:28:44 More complicated. Yes, exactly.
11:28:51 So this was hotly debated. We landed on a neutral position, the especially the urban county, is really supported.
11:29:02 It, and because of, you know, obviously perceived benefit, but also the local option.
11:29:11 You know. And that's that local control is a key priority for Wasak.
11:29:16 But the largely Republican and rural counties did not support it.
11:29:21 So we landed on neutral as a compromise I mean they actively opposed it but we're willing to compromise.
11:29:28 Yes, yes, and I I was sharing so it's a small win that we got there.
11:29:37 So have an issue paper from Mossack. If anyone wants to learn more on that.
11:29:44 So Hi, Lisa! I I could report on any number of things, but maybe just one small one.
11:29:53 Or there's a bill. 5604. That would allow expanding the use of the port. Oh, 6 funds, including a 10% admin for local governments to be able to take the 1406 funds are our 1
48.
11:30:10 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Apparently our revenue from 1406 is capped.
11:30:18 Any discussion about raising that cap cause we hit our cap or around June. Oh, what does that mean?
11:30:30 There's a maximum amount that you can raise from the there is yeah, you hit the cap and get no more yeah, cause it just go to the state then, and they don't stop collecting
what we get through.
11:30:37 1406 is a portion of the State sales tax much like with public infrastructure, but once we hit the cap we get no more.
11:30:49 Do you know what the cap is based on? I don't, and I don't yeah, I don't know anything about that.
11:30:53 It'd be nice if they lifted that cap. Yeah, yeah.
11:30:58 So yeah, number of other bills I could report on, if that's of interest or important stuff.
11:31:09 Okay, I try to just pull out the ones that I think are gonna be of interest and mark them.
11:31:14 Yeah, so the ongoing effort, sponsored by Representative Chapman House Bill 1022, which would pull the developmental disability and veterans assistance.
11:31:28 Levy outside of the 1% that has not been pulled to the floor.
11:31:31 So it doesn't seem to have a lot of support.
11:31:33 It stalls, for some reason could still move. Certainly in the next week.
11:31:38 Yes. Yeah. Requiring climate change to be an element in growth management that is moving along.
11:31:52 So we can expect to see that potentially pass. Oh, let me see, I'll get there.
11:32:08 Yep. Washing center, cycling and.
11:32:18 There's a a bill packaging. Recycling, packaging.
11:32:26 Thank you. A house Bill, 1025, which is related to the qualified immunity for law enforcement officers.
11:32:36 It would basically remove that. Okay, immunity and counties have concerns that the liability would then shift to counties and that's in the risk pool wouldn't cover it, and
that Kennedys would be unable to get insurance I don't
11:32:59 know if that's based in reality, or if that's based in here.
11:33:07 It always seemed really problematic. To me it seems problematic to completely eradicated as well it seems like one of those things that yeah, yeah, that's hard to find these
days.
11:33:21 The Simmons Bill, 1492.
11:33:26 It's a Blake Bill Association of Counties opposes it because it opens up the convictions to be considered, for Blake refunds back to 1951, and it opens it up to other offenses
and it redefines legal financial
11:33:48 obligations, and it opens it up to other offenses, and it redefines legal financial obligations.
11:33:52 So that is still in R like, it's not moving because some real concerns the pompancy, evaluations, you know, just folks sitting in jail waiting to yeah, get be able to go to
trial.
11:34:10 It's sometimes called the True Blood Bill, based on a big Supreme Court case that Piers County lost this.
11:34:20 There's a new version. Actually, it's a like fourth version of this bill, which is considered much better.
11:34:25 The counties are feeling better about it. It would require Dshs to provide services to restore competency, and it addresses a lot of the concerns that counties had about how
those services would be provided and who pays for them.
11:34:41 So counties are finally able to come to the table on that wrap.
11:34:50 X great update on it, because it's funny.
11:34:55 All of the all the bills that we get reports on is literally like a one line for each bill.
11:35:02 The rap act is literally 3. 1, 2, 3, 4, full pages of text Boom.
11:35:10 I remember that one here, 48 amendment exactly.
11:35:14 Yeah, and one here and always make it bill more complicated, though it's always good. Right?
11:35:19 Yeah, I mean, I I've lost my ability to track it.
11:35:24 So I actually don't have an update on it.
11:35:27 I'm sorry to say, yeah, I forgot to ask about the the second one that was introduced. Yeah, it must not be moving, because I haven't heard anything about it.
11:35:42 Hmm! No. You wanna bring that up. We do.
11:35:51 We did discuss it at 1 point, but it was a couple of weeks ago.
11:35:55 And I think the yeah, I mean, we generally hear about the you know, things that are kind of coming to the floor soon, or let's see if we did just get a right now. Bills that
matter to counties update from mossack.
11:36:19 1133, is in rules which would allow detached accessory dwelling units in unincorporated rural areas of counties, which we, of course, have, and apparently we're just lucky that
we've never been challenged on so that would be great if that
11:36:34 passed and give us some insurance that we were in good standing.
11:36:42 See if the Rap act is included in this. The voluntary stewardship program allowing companies to opt in again to that that is, in rules.
11:36:51 So that's still moving. Then would that have to go to budget after that and get money in it? Because it was talking about?
11:36:58 Underground for each county. Right? See? Yes, yep, yeah. But you know they the.
11:37:08 Fiscal bill is attached to those as they move through.
11:37:12 So. Yes, it could very well still die based on that. But it's.
11:37:20 Let us move ahead with some some sensitive might be able to keep passing.
11:37:32 Go back to the Blake Bill, 1492 real quickly, just to ask.
11:37:37 We got all of our old records digitized right, not just not just the 71.
11:37:44 I know the plan was to digitize them all. I'm not sure they've all been completed.
11:37:51 But yeah, I feel like we're ready, even if this doesn't happen, to move, to respond.
11:38:01 Sorry. I still looking for. Okay, so 1131, the Wrap Act county is working to secure amendments for flexibility for local programs and to improve the deposit return system.
11:38:17 Portion of the bill, and it's listed as a bill.
11:38:21 We have concerns with the association accounts.
11:38:26 To be clear. I don't agree with.
11:38:36 The residential parking requirements is that mostly in cities.
11:38:44 Yes, within a quarter mile of height, frequency, transmission stops.
11:38:52 It is in house rules, so it is still moving forward.
11:38:57 It preempts local authorities from adopting minimum residential parking requirements which no, they want to remove them as a barrier to.
11:39:11 Affordable housing and I mean it's it's we want to remove parking requirements and building.
11:39:17 Yes, to allow for more density, and reduce the costs.
11:39:26 The counties opposed that bill, even though it would largely just affect urban growth areas in this is a bill I found really interesting, because the one of the unintended consequences
is if people aren't creating parking on their property then they're going to be in the public
11:39:47 right away, which you know, people walk and spike. So it is largely an urban bill, but the unintended consequences could be significant for rural areas, too.
11:40:00 And you know Port Hadlock is where we're most likely to see this come to play.
11:40:05 So hmm there's gotta be some pain if we're gonna get people to wean off the you know one car for every person right?
11:40:12 I feel like, yeah, I feel like the unintended consequences are less.
11:40:17 People have. Yeah, it's I think that trouble is. It's one of those bills.
11:40:25 That is a little too broad a brush. Where? Like it's, it gets great to be able to say that you can't require parking minimums.
11:40:34 But there might still be areas where they are appropriate and where you can adjust the different uses of the right of way and design standards.
11:40:43 So do you have any? Okay? The rent around pay whatever shape the whole is.
11:40:55 Yeah, so it is worth taking a look at. The bulletin.
11:41:04 That called jewel just sent out. I imagine we all got it. Yeah.
11:41:10 Forward it to you!
11:41:23 Yeah, this is a little easier. It's a 2 pager of the bills that we're taking a closest look at this week.
11:41:37 Okay, I think that's it. The other 2 things I had were on 2 things.
11:41:42 I had were House Bill 1460, was the trust and Transfer Bill, and it made it through the house.
11:41:48 With the 83 to 8 vote, or not, a huge, a huge support of vote, and then how's the hearing in the Senate agon natural resources on Thursday?
11:42:00 So, and then the other thing I've been tracking is this accepted capacity study?
11:42:08 Yeah, and hearing that there's support on all fronts to include that as a budget provo.
11:42:15 So that's the budgets, aren't, you know, in the work, in the works in a visible way yet?
11:42:21 But hearing that behind the scenes it's getting a lot of support.
11:42:26 Rural counties are probably impacted more by that than than urban counties.
11:42:31 Right? Yeah, I'm Yup. Yes, I mean the counties.
11:42:36 When we did our assessment, what counties impacted that last year we did a survey, Linda over at environmental public health and pinky and Amanda Fanara and a number of people
made a bunch of phone calls and ask people a series of questions.
11:42:54 There were a huge number of rural Western Washington counties, having constraints.
11:42:59 With septage disposal, which is such a basic thing.
11:43:04 But it's kind of this thing that no one pays attention to.
11:43:07 So rising tide, that's not the kind of top-rising time I don't know. Well, in the, you know. Even I could see even urban areas if they don't have.
11:43:19 Yeah, you really need a facility to be dealing with the biosolids and a market for that much compost to be able to manage your own biosolids like, I would imagine, a lot of
small cities are still cartoned in.
11:43:34 Probably biased away. We're gonna I mean, of course, impact that even more when we have a sewer that we're gonna have to hard all those biosolids to the the city's facility
at the transfer station and impact their ability to take extra I mean we're adding to it
11:43:48 by building sanitary suer and I don't. I mean, I don't think we have any assurance that this is agree to take all of it.
11:43:59 You could very well be shipping it out of in a way, because when they put it in there, I mean, it's on county land.
11:44:06 So the idea was always we should talk to Monty about that.
11:44:10 But thought we had a contract that we get the first right to place our I'm a Porno blocker from the port.
11:44:19 I love zoom additional capacity to take increased. So I have salads.
11:44:28 Reduce the capacity. But we're not. We're not decreasing our quantity.
11:44:35 Population, you know. So.
11:44:39 You know it's a real thing, parent fire above those for a while.
11:44:48 One more that I haven't followed closely, but, you know could affect us at some point.
11:44:53 Is how spill? 1425, which renews the annexation sales tax credit, which incentivizes more annexations.
11:45:02 It can only apply to developed lands, and it requires cities and counties to enter into an inter-ocal agreement for annexation, to try to prevent the hostile annexations of
the past.
11:45:17 Well, that could play, and the whole then go. Yeah, very much.
11:45:22 So for how long? Decades? Decades? Yes, since Dma was it's a twinkle.
11:45:30 And.
11:45:33 Hmm, okay. Well, thank you. That was a great great conversation.
11:45:37 Thanks for the update. Anything else, or should we break a few minutes early yeah, I'm not gonna attend.
11:45:46 I have a lunch with our sailors. Bha, as so.
11:45:48 Folks are coming at 1 30 they'll be here in person.
11:45:53 Great. Okay, I am going to attend Caroline, so that'll be.
11:46:00 For the first time in the way. So if there is nothing else, I will recess this meeting on the board of County Commissioners until 1 30 this afternoon.
11:46:09 Thanks for being with us today.
13:30:34 Let me go to that and then click, lead, computer, how are you?
13:30:43 And then you'll have me really use the microphone.
13:30:57 Started recording.
13:31:08 Good afternoon, everyone. I will call this meeting of the Board of County Commissioners back in session, and we're going to begin our afternoon with the workshop over the Opioid
Settlement Funding with our friends from Salish Behavioral Health Administrative Service Organizations Stephanie Lewis and
13:31:28 jolene, and we also have apple with us, and Philipunsecker and Deputy Chief Steve, Chief Civil deputy prosecuting attorney, and really we're talking about how do we?
13:31:41 How do we use these opioid funds? What are they?
13:31:44 And with that, we'll pass it over to Stephanie.
13:31:49 Sounds. Great is my microphone on. Yup. Okay, so thank you for the invitation. Today.
13:31:55 My name is Stephanie Lewis. I'm the administrator with the sailors.
13:31:58 Beeh Aso and Jolene Crone is our deputy administrator.
13:32:02 Clinical director. I've got a Powerpoint.
13:32:04 I'd like to share ultimately, I want to share the information that I have thus far about these funds planning that has been underway thus far, and answer any questions that
you may have many of those questions I might need to take back in order to get a response but would love to have a conversation
13:32:20 around how these funds can make an impact here in difference in county.
13:32:45 Right. Some of this information may be duplicative, so an opioid settlement was reached in the amount of 430,000,249.7 6 $9.
13:33:00 15% of these funds are being allocated to the State, and 50% of these funds to local governments.
13:33:06 The funding will be distributed over 17 years. The State entities that are going to be responsible for planning and implementing.
13:33:17 This funding are the Washington health, care, Authority, and the Washington Department of Health.
13:33:23 Couple of months ago they did submit a proposed plan the Governor's office for consideration, and I believe conversations are being had with our legislative body to make decisions
and incorporate that into the by annual budget settlement funds must be spent on
13:33:43 approved uses for fighting the opioid epidemic for the settlement or court order. That is an extensive list that is pretty broad and can allow for a lot of creativity.
13:33:58 So local governments signed on to one Washington Mou, that memorandum of understanding required that a regional opioid abatement cancel, counselll be formed in order for local
governments to be able to receive their funding allocation, the sales so has been
13:34:21 deemed that organization for Jefferson column and kids have counties.
13:34:25 Each county in our respective region has its own decision, funding, allocation, even if we are holding the funds on your behalf.
13:34:35 The Settlement Agreement notes that there are data reporting requirements.
13:34:38 However specific details as to what that actually is going to entail.
13:34:42 Haven't been shared yet.
13:34:44 I'm sorry there's no data on the data required.
13:34:51 So the sailors, Bh. A. S. O. Has received the first 2 Jefferson County payments, $34,504, and $36,262 in change it is anticipated that subsequent payments will be of similar
13:35:12 amounts. These payments are smaller than we were originally anticipating.
13:35:19 There was a exhibit attached to the one Washington Mou, and that determine what percentage of the overall pot of money would be allocated to each city and county, and when the
final payments were actually released, they were about 25 to 28%.
13:35:40 Less than we were expecting. The settlement has base, has both a base and incentive structure to it.
13:35:51 We've reached out and we're seeking clarification as to what is involved with these incentive structures.
13:35:59 Will subsequent payments ever grow? Will they get smaller so that everyone can plan?
13:36:05 Accordingly, when they're developing their plan for how to use these funds Stephanie, are you open to questions now, or would you rather hold them until the end?
13:36:12 I would be happy to take them as they come. If that's okay with the board, of course.
13:36:16 Yeah, great. So the do payments are those for like 23, and 24 is at this 2 annual payments.
13:36:25 So I would need to reference the settlement agreement to be definitive.
13:36:31 My recollection is that payment one and 2 were at the same time.
13:36:41 One payment was for 2022, and one was for 2023, and the next payment I will confirm that this is accurate will be this summer for the following year.
13:36:54 I have!
13:36:58 Phil, did you have something to add? You turned your camera on.
13:37:01 No, I just wanted to be ready when you needed me. I was trying to eat my my lunch while I was listening.
13:37:04 Okay. Okay. Okay, just trying to put you on the spot.
13:37:10 Sorry. One more question. This is this is, is it the Purdue?
13:37:19 Yeah, cause there's still the Walmart Walgreens being negotiated right well, us, we'll have fill up. Bring those funds in, or maybe it's a good time.
13:37:29 But Philip, the rest of the settlements will be treated in the same way right?
13:37:31 They'll still be run through the sailors. Pha, so!
13:37:34 Yeah, so these are the 3 distributor or major distributors, settlements.
13:37:38 That's what these funds are from. And then there's appending settlement with Jansen Walmart, Allergen, Tiva, Cbs, and Walgreens, and and the short story is that it's roughly
gonna be about
13:38:01 the same money coming to the county on an annual basis so roughly double these amounts on an annual.
13:38:07 You know this plus that will roughly double those amounts.
13:38:10 There's still other cases out there that have not been resolved.
13:38:15 So, of which we expect when they're resolved.
13:38:19 We will, you know, participate in the settlements, but this does not include the the settlements that we have to join. By April eighteenth.
13:38:30 For the pharmacy case.
13:38:32 Yes, for the settlement.
13:38:37 Okay. Thanks. And Stephanie, you mentioned that the payments were 25 to 28% less than we thought they might be.
13:38:45 Do you have a sense of? Why I do not, but I've reached out and saw clarification as to the underlying reason, and if.
13:38:57 We could anticipate larger, a lotments in the future.
13:39:02 Hmm! I think about 25% of Stephanie's time is trying to unravel the mysteries that come down from Hca.
13:39:09 And the other organizations that are administering these funds.
13:39:14 Hi, kid!
13:39:14 So our lawyers that Keller Robock ought to be able to tell us why, and I'll ask them.
13:39:19 Thank you. Great. Just another comment back a question about the other pending settlement.
13:39:29 So. Yes, I do agree with Philip that it is roughly about the same amount of money.
13:39:35 One of the one of the areas that differs is the period of time by which, over which the funds will be released.
13:39:45 Each entity has a different time period. Some are 3 to 5 years, and others go as long as 15, and not here specifically today to talk about.
13:39:56 But it is a different different calendar, but they they'll still come through sales, correct.
13:40:05 We would still receive those allocations, and that's my expectation on behalf of the 3 counties, and then administer those funds, or release those funds in accordance with each
county's wishes.
13:40:13 And are you going to dive more into the kind of the choice that's outlined there?
13:40:18 Whether sales administers these funds, or directly with distributed absolutely so, I believe I provided an attachment to a company.
13:40:30 This workshop. It's titled Exhibit B.
13:40:33 It has 3 pages of Opioid, Opioid.
13:40:41 Remediation uses that are identified as core strategies which should be the first priority and how the funds are expended, and then the subsequent pages are all allowed uses,
which is pretty broad, and could allow for a lot of creativity as I noted earlier, at this point I see kind.
13:40:59 Of 2 2 paths forward. With this funding definitely open to hearing other way.
13:41:07 You know, if there are additional paths to explore one could be that the full amount of Jefferson County's location be paid directly to the county.
13:41:15 No administrative withhold, and that Jefferson County can then determine how it wants to use its funds in accordance with Exhibit E.
13:41:26 Provide the required data. Once we know what it is that they are going to require.
13:41:34 And I, can. Our organization can roll that up and send it up to the State.
13:41:37 As required for our regional service area. So I'm sorry.
13:41:40 Can I? Just so once you have those data, right? You guys would still be the organization that Jefferson County, if we're directly, if it's the funds are passed through, we would
report to you, and you would aggregate it for all 3 counties that is what i'm
13:41:54 anticipating. Yes. Okay, thanks. And since it already has to be done for Kitsup County, anyways, and we're going to be creating a dashboard I don't see it.
13:42:01 I don't know what that data, what the data points are, but I'm not anticipating that it's gonna be ahead.
13:42:09 Oh, Philip, did you have something to add?
13:42:11 I do. There's 2 things, one, the way the agreement is written.
13:42:17 It it is for the behavioral health to allocate the funds as it sees fit on a rear basis.
13:42:27 So, and we knew that going in it was expensive. When we signed.
13:42:32 When we signed off on those. That that's the way it was gonna work for our region.
13:42:36 The the second thing is, of course you know, it could be allocated all to us.
13:42:42 Buy them. But there's money in the settlement for administration that goes to the regional entity.
13:42:49 So the way the reason we did it this way primarily with it go to sales is cause there's money allocated to them to administer the funds, and we wanted to take advantage of that
and not have to have a double you know, double process in each county and so we had
13:43:11 a discussion about that when we when we signed onto the settlements, and so I think that might be a little bit of a different view of than what than what Stephanie is presenting,
and maybe we could have a conversation about that that involves all the counties everybody's on the
13:43:28 same page about that. But that was my understanding, and I think it's backed up by the documents that was left to sailors how to allocate this, and we could certainly come in
and pitch them, or you know they could have a an allocation means of doing it.
13:43:44 Exhibit e. That Stephanie was talking about is a list of things that it had, that it has to be used for opioid abatement.
13:43:54 That's one of the requirements of the settlement period, and this is a list of things it could be used for.
13:44:01 So there's a reporting requirement at when the money is spent.
13:44:05 You have to report that you sent it for Opioid.
13:44:08 Spend it for, and the list here, in Exhibit E comes from the settlement Documents.
13:44:14 That's tells you what would qualify for sure.
13:44:19 Phillip. I believe so. I agree with everything you just stated.
13:44:25 I also, if my memory is serving me correctly, the.
13:44:32 Whether it was the settlement document or the Mou indicated that if the Opioid Abatement Council didn't have expenses up to the 10% of administration that's allowable.
13:44:44 The remaining funny that had been withheld needs to be released.
13:44:47 So if we didn't incur who, if we identified that our overall administration for these funds results in maybe a half a percent of what would be equivalent to Jefferson County?
13:44:59 If the administrative expense doesn't meet 10% there's no reason we need to hold 10% back for what's going in the community.
13:45:07 So the Icr. That he was the administration he was talking about comes from the awards to each of the counties is not a separate pot of administration dollars.
13:45:15 I believe it's my understanding. And please correct me, Philip, this is incorrect, that the overall money we've already received includes the 10% administration that sales can
utilize is that correct?
13:45:26 Yeah, I I can't tell you about.
13:45:29 What these numbers represent. My, but I can tell you that there is a separate pot for administration.
13:45:38 I also think Stephanie is correct, that you only get to to draw from that pot what you actually spent, and then the rest goes, goes, you know, for to the funding opioid abatement.
13:45:51 So, if the process by which this region decides to implement this money has such a low administrative burden that we're not incurring those costs, I mean so when I said we wouldn't
hold back 10%, ultimately, the organization until we actually know what the data points are we
13:46:12 can't really anticipate how what the admin is gonna be.
13:46:16 But I don't. I would like as much of this money to make it out in the communities as possible. But there are, as Phillip is, there are still things that are unknown.
13:46:27 So I said there were 2 paths, so one I laid out, which would be with Jefferson County.
13:46:35 Being the greatest in in the driver's seat for implementing these ones.
13:46:42 The other could be that?
13:46:46 Sales, retains those funds and there's a conversation about whether or not Jefferson County wishes for us to procure the funds or pool them for regional interests that can be
aored.
13:47:03 I, but I'm deferring to what this Board wishes.
13:47:10 Does that conclude the presentation?
13:47:14 Yes. Okay. I guess. Questions, conversation we can give direction. Yeah, I think that I mean, there's a lot of different off I have all sorts of brainstorms.
13:47:29 I don't have a definitive, a real strong idea of what we should do for it.
13:47:35 Yeah, I see apple. But whether or not the county gets directly or salesp so administers it is a real question, and we can plumb.
13:47:47 There's lots of kind of ancillary conversations that I think will inform that too.
13:47:50 But we'll turn to apple our Director of Public Health first.
13:47:53 Hi! Stephanie! Hi! To the board to mark Stephanie, do you?
13:47:59 Do you have a sense from working individually with the counties, our neighboring counties, that make up our region?
13:48:06 If there is a sentiment about using it in a more regional approach, I I'm inclined to submit to the board that you know we use it here in Jefferson specifically, but I can see
where there are some overlaps in terms of ways that this type of funding would be
13:48:27 bolstered and enhanced from a regional perspective.
13:48:30 Do you have any more information on how that is?
13:48:33 Sitting at the table at the moment, Stephanie, in terms of the other counties.
13:48:37 So we have had some conversations with Clawam County, and their Health and Human Services Department.
13:48:43 I think that, and there are still subsequent conversations to be had with their Board of Health and their full board of County Commissioners.
13:48:51 But the preliminary conversations that we've had.
13:48:56 They are likely look looking to focus their funds just within their county.
13:49:04 And I agree that there's definitely an opportunity for maximizing funds.
13:49:12 With a regional approach. And each county, you know, may have different needs.
13:49:17 Additionally, they're, you know, 50% of these funds are going to be managed by the Department of Health and the Washington Health Care Authority.
13:49:27 It is likely not guaranteed. It is likely that the healthcare authority may contract directly with the Aso to implement some of those funds.
13:49:38 Maybe that could be an opportunity for a regional investment you know. I don't have a crystal ball, but that seems like a reasonable assumption for kids.
13:49:48 App county Jolene and I have been engaging some community stakeholders to develop a plan to present to our Board of Commissioners currently looking at a county focus rather
than a regional focus.
13:50:02 And I mean a regional focused application of all these funds would mean like a crisis stabilization and kids have county or something right?
13:50:10 I mean, there's no way that would end up in Jefferson County.
13:50:14 Then it would just create regional access to services if if the investment were on the treatment side or facility side. Yes, I agree.
13:50:21 I think if we're looking at educational campaigns, you know, outreaching physician's offices, you know, education around prescribing practices.
13:50:36 There are a lot of things that could be regional. If it's treatment focused, then yeah, likely would be where?
13:50:43 Often you would say, the population densities which may not make sense.
13:50:51 Did that fully? Answer your question? Apple?
13:50:53 It did, Stephanie. I just sort of wanted the temperature check.
13:50:56 So thank you for sharing that.
13:51:01 Cool.
13:51:04 We had an executive session with the salish behavioral health organization.
13:51:11 I can't talk about what went on in the exact session.
13:51:14 But, Commissioner Brotherton was there as chair, and all 3 deputies, Chief civil deputies from 8 County was there, explaining how this all worked.
13:51:25 I think so, I'll just say I think there needs to be a discussion at the Sales Behavioral Health Board about this, to make sure that we're dotting all our eyes and crossing all
our Ts about how the agreements are written and making sure that you know
13:51:46 it's being done the correct way, in accordance with the Ios that we have cause.
13:51:52 I'm I'm not sure about that.
13:51:54 Having heard what we've heard today.
13:51:57 Just a straight pass through, you think would violate those.
13:52:01 I don't think a straight pathway would necessarily violate the Ios, but I think that decision would have to be made by the board, but Salish board.
13:52:08 By the same, and I would agree, I think the additional information I could have shared sooner is that, seeking each board of county commissioners desired path forward within
those plans being presented to the sailors, Bha so executive board for approval which would be good they're serving as
13:52:31 the opioid debate. At this point the Board, so that would be the next step.
13:52:35 Once we hear what each account is wishing, and that was the direction I think, that we gave at the last.
13:52:40 Salish Bhhaso Executive Board meeting was, let's see what each county wants to do.
13:52:46 Yeah. And I think that's fine.
13:52:50 Okay. Tidy questions, comments, thoughts. Yeah. I guess. Probably question for Greg and Apple just since you've been closest to this and they're closest to local service providers.
13:53:02 I hear Apple saying she feels like there's some benefits keeping the phones just local, I guess. Greg, do you agree?
13:53:10 And where do you both see the opportunity to use these funds most effectively?
13:53:17 Locally, I 100% agree. I do have ideas. But I'll let Apple go first, so we can have some actual knowledge about this answer before I just bring this one.
13:53:27 And I will also say that my colleague, Denise, Speaker, is on the line as well, and she is the division director.
13:53:32 Over community and family health. Here, at public health, I would say there are some some very reasonable tables at which the provisioning, the brainstorming the gathering and
collaborating around behavioral health services is happening.
13:53:49 And so there are multiple ways in the county that I believe these funds could be could be utilized in county and through.
13:54:00 Already established pathways. I think that you know it's valuable for us to continue to bolster what we have started in terms of response to opioid epidemic as far as public
health is concerned.
13:54:16 You know our major, Major Embo, or a major major? Motives are in education, access, equitable access also in communication about what services are, so that the word is getting
out.
13:54:30 We are also really involved in stigma reduction, and that sort of level of communication.
13:54:37 And then obviously helping support various other collaborative tables that are really looking at ways to use funds and use collaborative partnerships to make services more available.
13:54:51 More types of services available in in the community. We've had several ideas floated in the past that haven't come to fruition, say, crisis stabilization center.
13:55:02 And maybe you're right. That doesn't necessarily seem like it would happen.
13:55:04 In our county overall, but there's certainly our needs here in the county that could utilize these funding.
13:55:13 I think that the you know the scope is is quite broad, and so there's many ways that we can handle utilizing and executing this funding in the community to better better outcomes
great.
13:55:25 Do you have any specific thoughts on? Yeah.
13:55:33 Yeah.
13:55:29 I do. I wish I could probably should have talked with them with you before I'm in public, but I had the pleasure of having lunch with Stephanie and Jolene so got to kind of
plumb this idea a little bit, and I might ask do you use my phone to friend with Jolene to
13:55:46 talk about the efficacy of the behavioral health consortium, but that's a place that I think is is can can grow, and is a real, a real strength of our community that we are
going to lose funding for in August.
13:56:02 So I think that one easy application of this first tranche of dollars that for opioid settlements could be making the behavioral health consortium.
13:56:13 You know, a 17 year project, instead of looking for funding to continue in August, and I don't know Jolene.
13:56:19 I prepped you for this before. But can you talk about?
13:56:22 I guess the efficacy of the Bhc. And compare it to some other counties, and and what the advantages and possible disadvantages of it are.
13:56:32 So I have been involved with the Bhc. Since it came to Jefferson County as part of my role.
13:56:41 Do this, Julie need to get closer to the mic.
13:56:45 Yes.
13:56:44 Can you hear me now? Okay, I'll start again.
13:56:49 So I've been involved with the Vhc. Since it's inception here in my role with the then Bh, o, and then here with the Bh Aso, I do a lot of the clinical work across all 3 counties
and have seen a significant benefit of Bhc here in
13:57:06 Jefferson County, with just the individuals that are brought to the table to have some of those conversations, even though some of those things, like looking at crisis triage
and those things didn't come to fruition.
13:57:20 I think those conversations were really, really beneficial to this community and that table continues to bring a good number of participants, that we don't necessarily see in
other counties, or we don't see also reflected across the state that I think really does serve the county to get everybody on the same
13:57:38 page and kind of break down some of those sitos. Thanks.
13:57:42 Really, and then other ideas would potentially be, you know, it would create some complexity.
13:57:50 Hmm!
13:57:49 But we have Bhac and other other funding avenues.
13:57:53 If we want to just kind of put it into competitive Rfp, we have those preexisting ones, and we can dance around different conditions and data requirements with that, as you
know, like we do with the housing funds.
13:58:06 Right. Thank you. Thank you, Greg. That does make sense. And I'm glad that you've enunciated around that.
13:58:13 Just to be clear that the Bhc. You know, has had a really impactful trajectory, and it is at the end of its current Grant life cycle coming up in August.
13:58:24 This it's very meaningful time right now to think about some extra funding.
13:58:30 It's not a lot, but in any case, to help break together what will be the future of the behavioral health consortium, which I think, as Julian pointed out, is really very unique
to our county, and is something that has really had a lot of excesses that are very applicable on the ground for
13:58:47 citizens or youth in terms of support and access to services around behavioral health needs.
13:58:53 It does need a next step, it needs a next evolution.
13:58:58 And I think this money is very apropos in terms of what it's scope is to all the things that not only Bhc.
13:59:06 Has been invested in, but also dreams of investing in so growing that sustainability and some more substantial way.
13:59:15 If it's $34,000 a year for 17 years, it's not a lot, but it, as we know in this work, it's very important to pull together funding students to help things propagate the Bh.
13:59:26 A/C The Behavioral Health Advisory Committee is also as you said, it might be, a little more tricky in terms of where this funding is relative to the one-tenth of 1% funding.
13:59:37 But I do think it's a really valuable table where folks are really vetting applicants and vendors who are utilizing the one over 10 funds to execute really incredible services
across the landscape. Here.
13:59:51 So, if there were a way for this opioid settlement money to really bolster and hold both of those angles which are deeply rooted in the county county government, our county
departments, that would be a boom, and it would really help establish cementing longer, term work, as we move forward and keep
14:00:12 having these conversations and keep collecting data. So both of those tables are very well versed at collecting data and submitting that, and then looking at it and making adjustments.
14:00:23 And I think that's part of the landscape in terms of receiving funding.
14:00:26 That is like this, where you have these commitments to tell the story, you need.
14:00:33 It's beneficial to have folks at the table who are well versed in how to do that, and that's what the Behac and the Bhc.
14:00:41 Have done wonderfully at is nurturing their members to be effective and enthusiastic providers of that information moving forward because it it it fine tunes the work, and it
utilizes the funds most appropriately.
14:00:58 Of course. Thanks. Go ahead.
14:00:56 Can I ask a question? How would you make sure that the money was only used for opioid abatement?
14:01:04 Most. I mean what you would do in the Bhac is, you know, any most of the grand applications would qualify for this, so you would just make sure, like we did with the 1, 48 and
1490, well, this is homeless this.
14:01:20 Is affordable housing, and just you'd have to do a little massaging as part of your vetting process.
14:01:26 Okay, I understand.
14:01:28 That would be great. It would be great if the funding, if the behavioral health consortium in the Bay real Advisory Committee could be kind of, there'd be more overlap.
14:01:46 We need to bring the Behavioral Health Advisory Committee staff on to the Dhc.
14:01:52 Because then that would instantly create connection between a variable group that's distributing funds and vetting orders into the larger consortium.
14:02:04 That is, the cast of wider net. And why is that still being the new Commissioner?
14:02:08 I could ask these questions, why is that never been done? Apple?
14:02:11 I don't know.
14:02:14 She lets you disappear until we lost her. Denise, you know I don't. I mean I don't know the rationale that it hasn't been done.
14:02:20 Yeah.
14:02:20 I don't think there was any rationale as to why why not?
14:02:25 It hadn't been done. I think that essentially the Vhc.
14:02:36 Right contact.
14:02:33 Was seen as a temporary group that was use to distribute this amount of money that was received through a Grant proposal, and I think that it also was seen as a chip group.
14:02:54 So it was a community health Improvement Plan Group. It was the mental health substance, abuse, work group that became the Bhc.
14:03:02 And so it was just funded for this certain amount of time.
14:03:07 Got it?
14:03:08 I could see the Bhc. Didn't do Rfps.
14:03:14 They had a work plan, and and Lee distributed money based on the what the members of the Bhc.
14:03:25 Thought was best use, and and so I could see with the Bhac that it would be if, in fact, it's 30, some $1,000 a year for 17 years.
14:03:45 That isn't a whole lot of money to run a whole different consortium table and pay all of the pay.
14:03:51 The person who's facilitating, etc., and so I could see it being wise fiscally with this funding, to use the Bhac table to put out our piece as it does for the one-tenth of
1%.
14:04:07 But and then accept Rfps based on whatever criteria is, is put forth and do the data reporting, etc.
14:04:22 So that's kind of how I mean. I don't know if if I'm seeing the full picture because I'm a little bit new to the conversation at this level.
14:04:32 And so that's just my thoughts. Right? Office.
14:04:38 And I, yeah, I was thinking, even if it the funding doubles, it's still not that, really, not that much money right?
14:04:45 So it's. How is it additive to what we're already doing?
14:04:49 And how can it improve what we already do here in the county?
14:04:56 As a couple follow up questions, does who currently steps Bhc.
14:05:05 And the Bhac! Hey, Anna!
14:05:12 Okay.
14:05:05 Well right, now Ana Mcinry is staff for the Bhac and apple supports Ana, and then right now we contract with a facilitator for the Bhc.
14:05:22 And that contractor is Laurie. Funny?
14:05:26 Right it was with the grant, and in that model I guess maybe again, for Greg and Apple.
14:05:35 Do you feel like that? The funding continued funding for staffing for one of those or some sort of combined model would meet the criteria for allowable uses?
14:05:49 The way I read it. It certainly wouldn't. I don't know, Stephanie.
14:05:52 Joline, do you think I I would agree?
14:05:55 You're more experienced with the.
14:05:59 And, as usual, there's, you know, I feel a little torn between, you know, continuing to fund staff versus kinda direct service and so do you have a thought kind of how we could
structure our think about use of funds along those 2 both valid means you know we know if we don't
14:06:23 have staff. It's very hard to be strategic and organized.
14:06:27 Well, I mean, you know, split the baby in half, you know.
14:06:31 I think that the 17 years of 36,000 a year should be enough to staff the Vhc.
14:06:39 Which is, you know, okay? And then, with the subsequent settlements that are coming in, you know, putting those into the Bhac.
14:06:48 Our Rfp. Processes. Denise says, I think would.
14:06:51 That's the point. Way to get those on the street into services.
14:06:54 So I mean I support both paths and I I wouldn't really fight either one too much.
14:06:59 I think the Bhc. Has some some value. I think there's a little existential tension between the 2 organizations, and I'd love to bring them together and solve that tension.
14:07:10 I think the Bhc does serve a function, I mean, just in our like, the kind of peruffle over the carriage team and everything.
14:07:19 We had all of the players at this at the table, that we could work through those issues in a way that would have taken a lot longer and been more silent.
14:07:26 Bhac is so focused in its mission to distribute funds to organizations, it should be at the voc. If it's going to be permanent.
14:07:34 But the Bhcs to me is where even if it's just a round of introductions, and everyone talks about what they have going on, it just it deepens that fabric of service together.
14:07:47 So I think there's I think there's a lot of value in maintaining that from my observation.
14:07:51 But I mean I more value in Jolene and Apple and Denise's estimation of that than my own, who, a little removed from that.
14:08:05 Go ahead!
14:08:05 Oh, thank you. I agree with Greg in his assessment of what the Bhac is, and of what the Bhc.
14:08:16 Is, and of what the Bhc. Is and has been, and the Bhac is something that is distributing funds, and they are very focused on that.
14:08:25 And the Bhc. Was more focused on. What does what does this behavioral health substance use?
14:08:37 Disorder, landscape look like, and what are, and who are all the main players?
14:08:44 And how do we get them here at the table?
14:08:48 And then how do we talk about what we need to do as a whole community to 2, help to improve this landscape?
14:09:04 And so in Greg, saying that you know, even if it were just something where all these same players came together and said, This is what we're still doing.
14:09:16 This is what we're still doing. This is what we're adding.
14:09:20 This is what we're adding. This is what we're adding. This is what we're adding.
14:09:21 This is how it all works together. Cohesively to improve the behavioral health of the entire system, so that systems level thinking that is a huge benefit.
14:09:31 And I could see you know this 30, some $1,000 a year over 17 years being enough to staff something like that, if that's what it would become.
14:09:46 I could, and there was some else. But I'm not gonna be able to say it right now, cause I got involved in this hand movement stuff.
14:09:58 Yeah, so essentially, bottom line is, I agree with what?
14:10:02 What Greg is saying in terms of the different functioning of both of these groups, and then, I guess, to add, I have been at the Vhc.
14:10:14 Table during its entire live, and I worked hand in hand with Laurie to produce that proposal that want us to more dollars.
14:10:27 So so I'm pretty. Just recently I have kind of lost track of of the background.
14:10:35 Talking, but I have zoom instrumental in it's functioning since the beginning.
14:10:46 Great thanks, Denise, and if you're other thought comes to you, please go ahead and interject, okay.
14:10:49 Yeah, that was the other thought I was. Gonna say, I've been at the table the whole time, too. Yeah.
14:10:54 And I would just say I would. I think I think, what Denise just articulated about the conversation that happens at the Bhc.
14:11:01 Table. It would be great if that conversation, and was at the Bhac table as well, and informing the funding decisions that we're making, and I haven't seen that connection in
my in my 3 years now, I think that if you know Anna was at the Bhc table.
14:11:20 It would automatically have interaction.
14:11:24 Would be really helpful. Go ahead, Denise.
14:11:29 Yes, I was gonna say something similar to that, or if if the Bhc table didn't remain as it is right now, or winter way in terms of accounting table, that that could be something
that and could be focused on is that this is another purpose, of this table
14:11:59 is to have the administrators from all of these different organizations that are members of our Bhac Table report on what they will do, and so that we can, seeing how this is
all copies simply working together to improve the health of Jefferson County yeah.
14:12:18 So either way, right?
14:12:18 Oh, absolutely. You can. Yeah. Split the baby all sorts of different ways.
14:12:23 But just getting them connected, I think, is critical. Whether it's Phd.
14:12:28 Staff, you know. Tables Dhc. Or our participates.
14:12:33 You know, it's I think, or expands, you know, passive funding mission into the Bhc.
14:12:41 I think it's, you know, 6 of one half dozen another apple keeps hopping in and out. But, Apple, were you able to hear Kate's question?
14:12:49 I'm so sorry I have had to restart 3 times, and I'm finally in now.
14:12:56 I'm not sure what the magic Britain was, but I apologize.
14:12:58 I did not hear the question.
14:12:59 I did it again. I did it myself today, Kate, can you restate it for apple?
14:13:06 Let's see. It's I've had more thoughts since then.
14:13:12 It was. I was curious about kind of it. What departments were, or who was staffing currently staffing the Bhc.
14:13:20 And the Bhc. And then what's what's the right balance of funding more administration versus kind of direct service funding.
14:13:33 Hmm!
14:13:34 And Greg and Denise both waited on kind of basically kind of splitting between administration and direct services.
14:13:42 And still a question of how to align or strategize with the Bhc.
14:13:48 And Bhac, and how to do that most effectively.
14:13:52 I I see? Yeah, I would. I guess I would venture to say or agree that probably half and half would make sense, although I do believe that the administration portion is often,
you know what does very well, and we try to propagate that so that the folks at the table can then
14:14:14 utilize some of those funds to then propagate services out in the community.
14:14:19 So that's sort of a paradigm that we are engaged in quite a bit, maybe more.
14:14:23 So now than we used to be. We have a lot of services under our roof, at Jefferson County public health, and we will always have that.
14:14:30 But we. We are also in the business of propagating sort of the notion of population health, where we can convene, and also bolster these services, or these organizations to
proper up and be sustainable in the community as well so, I think it's probably a combination of
14:14:49 administration as well. So I think it's probably a combination of administration as well as services.
14:14:52 I think that the you know public health has been tasked with for the county overseeing the one-tenth funds through the Vhc.
14:15:02 And that will remain so. And then the Bhc.
14:15:05 That the behavioral health consortium, as you probably were told before I got booted out of the that has been in the past.
14:15:14 Staffed through public health with a grant specifically for the behavioral health consortium, and that 3 year Grant is coming to an end.
14:15:22 And there's movement forward to enable the and empower the folks.
14:15:30 The members at the Bhc. To consider where the Bhc.
14:15:34 Should go as a collaborative unit, but also how that should be executed in terms of who can hold that work moving forward either in a convening role and or in particularly focusing
on enabling a specific organization perhaps to do some of that work as in as opposed to public health, itself so I
14:15:59 believe this money, you know. If we're gonna do it this way in the county, it would be.
14:16:04 It would behoove us to bolster the situations that are already upon us, and it sounds like that's what there's general understanding that that's something.
14:16:16 The board is interested in, because we we have some natural homes for this funding and making those the homes that exist making those coordinate best is sort of the crust.
14:16:31 Yes, definitely, she was saying. Crack! That's been terrible.
14:16:36 The last week we're been freeze, and just to be clear, we don't need to figure out the exact dispensation today, but you would love to take feedback back to the Executive Board
about whether we think we can spend these money directly or whether they should be administered fully through
14:16:57 Sbha. Yes, and I don't think that this will make it on to the March Executive Board meeting.
14:17:06 I anticipate the soonest will be may so, if there's a desire for additional conversation we're happy to come back.
14:17:12 Yes, I think it just feedback on the general desires to how the funny will be administered versus the actual application.
14:17:25 I don't know any other thoughts on that most pressing of questions that's still, you know, 2 months away, before the final decision about whether we can use this with existing
services and administration within the county, or whether we should lean on Sbhso it feels like we can handle it and
14:17:43 it at the Bhac table that there hasn't been enough funding for the proposals we've received in the last couple of rounds.
14:17:53 So, you know, I feel like there's need in the community that's not being met currently.
14:18:00 Yes, cool.
14:18:04 Just wanna stay. I've spent 5 years working on this opioid litigation.
14:18:10 I'm very happy. We've finally gotten a trickle of money out of it.
14:18:15 Yeah, I just wanna make sure that we don't lose side of the fact that we need to make sure we're complying with requirements that it all be for opioid abatement.
14:18:27 And this just my idea as one guy, if it comes through salish, and then it stole.
14:18:34 That as Grant Fund. Somehow, you can much more easily make sure that happens.
14:18:45 I should say, cause I don't wanna give any of it back.
14:18:50 Yeah, we're with nobody does. And if I were to hear, if I may, any brainstorming your suggestions that I thought would get even close to varying outside of the fourteen-page
list of uses, I'd speak up because I agree we don't nobody wants to any penny to
14:19:08 be sent back because it was used in a purpose. Well, and there are ways to put sidebars, or, you know, grant stipulations on buckets of funding managed by behavioral advisory
committee just with any with any grant making would do you know.
14:19:35 Okay, any last questions or comments for our guests? It sounds like there's consensus that we.
14:19:46 To make sure that we're hello lawyer says something 3 times.
14:19:51 You should listen. Yeah.
14:19:56 Okay. Well, thank you guys so much for making the journey out.
14:20:00 It's nice to see you in real life.
14:20:02 All right, great! Well, we'll let you go, and we'll we're a little late for our executive session, but we will just take a moment to and and get set up for our executive session,
which has a different link.
14:20:20 Right? Yeah. It was a calendar item. So all you're really estimating the time needed for.
14:20:31 So we are going into an executive session with the county administrator and the chief Civil deputy prosecuting attorney regarding potential litigation, exemption as outlined
in the open public meetings act Rcw.
14:20:43 42.1 10 parentheses, one parentheses.
14:20:47 I we will go in at 2 21, and let's give ourselves till 30'clock.
14:20:56 I know this will take a little longer, so we'll come out at 3 P. M.
15:01:53 Yeah.
15:01:55 Hello! All, and we're coming out of exec session back in the regular session at 3.
15:02:01 I guess it's almost 301. No, no action to be taken, and we will continue with our day across my agenda.
15:02:16 Good.
15:02:17 Yeah. Oh, great! I'm drafting that letter to Dnr.
15:02:29 Okay, well, we're at the end of our agenda today.
15:02:32 Do we have any other topics that we'd like to discuss?
15:02:36 Or, yeah?
15:02:40 I know I feel like we have enough on our plate. Then.
15:02:46 Topics.
15:02:54 So we have some minutes to look through. Thanks. 1 one thing that came up in a meeting was the issue of vehicles parked on county roads and right-aways, vehicles and Rvs people
living on county roads and right awayways and at 1 point i'm gonna follow up with the
15:03:15 sheriff about this, but it's either Sheriff Noel or Andy Pernsteiner who mentioned that we might need to do a code revision and I guess that would be us be started with Dcd,
so I'm gonna have Lunch with Brandon.
15:03:27 I'll mention that there and then we also did something for people camping on county property, you know.
15:03:38 Policy based on visitor. In last couple of weeks we have been working on oh, on the front line.
15:03:46 That's the same thing I don't know right away is road road road rightways.
15:03:54 I am moving forward with the Quimper east and West Trust Land transfer transactions.
15:04:02 With Mark's help we're acquiring those lands in the Quimper Wildlife corridor.
15:04:07 So that's moving forward. I mentioned my communication with Commissioner Fran earlier about following up with us in about a month about County and Dnr.
15:04:20 Co-management reconvenance, what our options are in terms of forest management, and how we might try to path forward, coming out of the legislative session.
15:04:34 We almost don't own that derelict vessel anymore.
15:04:39 I think it's crunched up, but we might.
15:04:45 Yeah, that's about it.
15:04:49 Oh, and I did that. I mentioned in the agents. I did have a conversation with Erin reading, and I talked with the sheriff, and he restate what I'd heard before that he feels
like he can't do anything outside of what state law defines but at some point it might be nice for us to respond
15:05:06 to the Enthusiasm Society with a resolution of You know our support, similar to what the city of Port Townsend did. I mean?
15:05:16 We did that at the word help, I know, but, like Bocc, they're interested in having us do it.
15:05:25 Essentially centering our project. Yeah, and share. I'm not willing to do that well. And I did encourage Aaron to reach out to the 2 of you.
15:05:39 He's. Oh, are you? Are you still with us, Phil?
15:05:44 Did you have something to add?
15:05:46 Oh, we can't hear you! You're muted.
15:05:53 Sorry I didn't realize it was still with you guys.
15:05:57 Okay. Well.
15:05:58 Good good thing I didn't. Good thing I didn't do something really stupid.
15:06:01 All I was doing was eating a rise, crispy tree.
15:06:03 Right? Yeah, we want to tell. Alright. We'll see you later.
15:06:14 Yeah, I did get reached out to you again by Aaron.
15:06:19 I didn't need to connect with her, and I mean I'm absolutely supportive of their efforts and you know it's been been getting a lot of press recently.
15:06:28 I think it was really valid theory. So absolutely supportive of what they're doing.
15:06:34 And I'm yeah. I'm happy to do a resolution support. Yeah, I mean, I think that's what she's interested in.
15:06:40 So she and I talked about, but I heard sure to reach out to the 2 of you.
15:06:43 So they were brought in on the okay, yeah. And I would wanna be, you know, just find out from James and Joe the you know.
15:07:02 Gonna make sure we're not.
15:07:03 Stepping on their authority, and so we don't have to be in agreement necessarily, but I think we largely are.
15:07:10 Yeah, we might even be able to.
15:07:14 Might not want to sign their name to something. But yeah, it's like, so then we end up doing something that's purely symbolic.
15:07:23 But but you know, hopefully, it could be ammunition for a statewide initiative.
15:07:28 I mean, I think when I talk to them about statewide initiatives there was a lot of concern about the commercialization of it, and then making it be an equity issue.
15:07:40 They want it to be accessible as a cure, regardless of they want to see profiteering.
15:07:45 It really did happen to cannabis. So.
15:07:48 Yeah, dealing with it through legislation. Then you're just, you know, actually, you're not actually doing.
15:07:58 Yeah, and my interest. And maybe this partly comes from having a very close family member who is a a trained therapist and psychedelic therapies is that there be a safe framework
both for practitioners and for you know, and for their
15:08:19 patients, their clients to be operating within them, so that they're not jeopardizing their piece of practitioners. They license the professional licenses and that there's some
assurance, then, for the clients, too, that there is some yeah yeah, so it's yeah lessons, learned
15:08:43 coming out of our again. So yeah, I'm happy to do a symbolic thing.
15:08:50 Oh, bye, it doesn't probably doesn't have the kind of teeth that they would want it to if we're gonna not defy the authority of a sheriff and prosecuting attorney.
15:09:02 Great! Hmm! I think that's the end of my okay.
15:09:08 I don't think I have anything else.
15:09:17 Sorry there's no public comments at this period of the day.
15:09:29 We would love to hear from you, Mr. Roney. You're welcome to reach out, any of us at any time, and we'll get back to you.
15:09:36 But we have public comment in the morning and bring something on during the day.
15:09:41 But we wanna be predictable. How will we respond?
15:09:46 Hmm!
15:09:48 Oh, just update. I think we talked in here about having a fourth grade class come through.
15:09:58 And they're civics unit. They're gonna be doing a tour of the courthouse and I've been working with Judge Walker.
15:10:05 We haven't pinned out a date yet, but we're trying to think of an issue that we might be able to talk about in this.
15:10:14 In this is this body that could incorporate them.
15:10:18 And I was thinking, maybe, about discussion of the bottle Bill.
15:10:22 I'm gonna talk about pros and cons and might be something that they could relate to.
15:10:27 I used to collect cans on the beach, and turned them in for deposit when I was a kid about that age.
15:10:34 So there's, you know, just an idea. But if you have other ideas for items, we might be able to discuss that fourth graders could kinda grapple with.
15:10:44 Yeah. Timeframe at all. We're looking at trying to see if there's anything available before spring break which is that first week of April.
15:10:52 But that's looking harder to come by. So maybe just after break sounds good.
15:10:59 I am. Gonna be away the last week of March, basically in DC.
15:11:05 It's Fyi. Okay.
15:11:11 Of town for Spring break here on Monday, going fourth through Seventh.
15:11:16 But I'll still be attending new.
15:11:19 Hmm! Although we'll be back for the seventh evening opening.
15:11:23 Oh, good. Yeah. 10'clock, 30 first mark. You have a new calendar I've got some things to share.
15:11:33 I'll double check on it. So 2930, and 31 march, Philipunsucker and I will be in Tacoma for the risk.
15:11:43 Risk Pool Conference. I guess you won't be at the grand open you won't be at the seventh.
15:11:48 Even grand opening. Then, no, sorry to say, on the 20 fifth I'll be at attending the Chambers leadership award event I'm not sure you know.
15:11:58 But Mallory Weinheimer is a finalist oh, nice for the rising entrepreneur!
15:12:04 Okay, good, great. So and then in April recall, when we talked about be staying on is county administrator.
15:12:15 We agreed that I should take vacation, and so I have one scheduled from the fifth of April, through the seventeenth, going to Virginia to visit my daughter, and that's about
it.
15:12:27 Great good for you.
15:12:31 Okay. Anything else? Good in the order? Hmm!
15:12:39 I don't have anything I mean. I'm sure I could.
15:12:42 Through my notebook, find a bunch more stuff, but.
15:12:48 I'm not seeing anything.
15:12:51 Oh, shoot, I forget. The instant I get back to my desk.
15:12:57 Hmm, okay. Well, if there's nothing else, I I will adjourn this.
15:13:07 March 6 meeting of the Board of Counters. Everyone have a great week, and we will see you here next Monday.