HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:00:28 Alright! Good morning. I will call this March twentieth meeting the Board of County Commissioners to order.
09:00:37 We will be joined by Commissioner Dean and unavoidably detained.
09:00:44 But we will begin this meeting like we always do by taking your public comment. So we'll look to our zoom room, or if anyone in the room here wants to make public comment, you
can click raise hand physically, raise and we'll bring you on over.
09:01:01 All quiet, so far. Time time to take that one.
09:01:17 Very sold.
09:01:24 Well, we will leave public comment open until 9 30, as is our new tradition.
09:01:38 Well, shall we look at our very robust consent? Agenda?
09:01:43 What we have a moment. Yeah, any questions or comments.
09:01:49 Oh yes! Why don't I just once tell us about number 7?
09:01:55 There! Oh, sorry! So in the packet originally, when it was posted, are there supposed to be 2 I don't think athletes are operations and certifications.
09:02:08 Only one was previous, for the public, and new commissioners.
09:02:13 It was corrected this morning, but someone shared their screen, and for the second I guess Greg's hearing it yeah. So that was just uploaded this morning.
09:02:21 But we wanted the public had a chance to review it.
09:02:26 Thank you.
09:02:32 Your screen is monkey, too. So a part of this letters are you know, that's weird.
09:02:39 That doesn't show up that wonkiness doesn't show up on everyone.
09:02:43 That's a recent. Yeah, it's I don't think Carolyn gets is trying to read it on the screen right now.
09:02:55 They might not be able to read it. All the letters it's been happening.
09:02:59 Yeah, more often than not. Lately it has usually just on the agenda page itself.
09:03:08 Yeah, it seems to be. Interpretation of my computer, not actually.
09:03:14 Next video from my phone, it's clear. Okay, well, that is number 7 on the consent agenda had one additional agreement added to it.
09:03:26 I just wanna call out the apparent e ease of making the Arpa grants.
09:03:34 I love using their letter and budget as the scope of work.
09:03:37 So I hope that wasn't too ungainly.
09:03:40 But it's nice to appreciate that typo and number 10 after program coordinator to improvever, to improve.
09:03:53 Sorry mark, 9 more agreements I hope to have next Monday.
09:04:04 That's great good to see those coming out, and just a reminder to all the grantees.
09:04:10 There is a phrase in the contract that says that a distribution of these funds is contingent may be contingent upon receiving the second arbitrage.
09:04:29 I think, on item 17 for that uncertain contingency on the the development implemented, coordinated tobacco.
09:04:37 Those items in their contract have an item 17.
09:04:41 Section G, and that's language is even provides more clarity around the unsure funding. So Mark might wanna look at that as an option for those contracts.
09:04:56 And I can show you that later. Not worth holding these up, though.
09:05:03 Okay, yeah. Once the great work here exciting to see every contract that comes through for the port headlock wastewater system is really exciting staking and surveying.
09:05:17 It's it's was interesting. Item number 21, the Consolidated Contracts, the addition of 20,000 reading through what that was for 15,000 or it was for monitoring swimming beaches,
water quality morning it monitoring its swimming and I was wondering
09:05:39 is that the total the county spends on water quality, monitoring for swimming pages.
09:05:47 Or is this in addition to some amount that's spent?
09:05:48 It wasn't clear.
09:05:51 And then there is a.
09:05:56 The group, a water systems also in that same item, 21, I found 9 that are managed by the Pud, and I'm just wondering if that all of them is that all of our group, a water systems
are other types of water systems like large onsite septic are those group a water
09:06:15 systems? Do you know drinking water? No subject, input not the output.
09:06:23 So it looks like. Then all of ours are the 9 that are managed by the P.
09:06:32 I think so.
09:06:35 I was happy to see, Number 6 that the bid that came in so much below the engineer's estimate, I was ended up being a viable bid, so great to see that project coming in I think
you know almost a little bit around two-thirds of west.
09:06:52 Yeah, that's really exciting to see some of the I was looking through the different bids and seeing the materials cost for brush and brush, brush, brush and brush, and I'm not
sure I pronounced it so much lower.
09:07:08 I just they don't have a lot of scope, creep, effort, or material creep.
09:07:14 After that happen right. But sometimes we get adjustments, materials.
09:07:21 Those are really much subject to change orders, to typically change orders.
09:07:28 Result when a condition is discovered that was unknown at the time the bid was submitted.
09:07:39 Yeah. Nice good news. Hmm, but yeah, if you want.
09:07:46 So that's the mark to beat now, 2626 items on consent.
09:07:51 Agenda well, December of the last year, I think we have 40 plus.
09:07:57 It's a yes, yeah, that's the record for this year.
09:08:01 So far, and we may exceed that the last meeting in December again.
09:08:08 But.
09:08:10 I'm excited to see the work being shown here a coordinator, Sophie de Groot, and thanks Sophie for her incredibly important issue in our community, and I was glad to be part
of our hiring team, and then just heard that our our 4 h coordinator that
09:08:30 we hired last year is moving on to will be.
09:08:40 We're we were reviewing the resumes now.
09:08:44 Nice, and I think interviews are scheduled for.
09:08:49 Maybe 4 weeks from now. I mean, that was our long review period.
09:08:55 Well, we we left it open for quite a while.
09:08:59 We left it open until yeah, years. But we have some great applicants.
09:09:07 Yes, so you should get on with the selection process. And one thing our.
09:09:18 We didn't have Dr. Barry on the agenda.
09:09:18 But isn't we we accept Doctor Barry and Willie today I'm gonna get the packet this week.
09:09:21 But usually we prep those ahead of time.
09:09:29 And no last week. Yeah, twice a month. I believe we.
09:09:36 So we might have to add that item. You know, we got questions from Ktz this week, and I think that we are expecting to have a Doctor Barry with us.
09:09:45 That'd be great. I didn't notice that when we were doing agenda prep.
09:09:52 But I believe what's going on. Okay, make another call for public.
09:09:59 We're going through. I don't want people to miss their opportunities.
09:10:06 Yeah. Why don't you go ahead and bring Miss Cheershoe?
09:10:13 Good morning. Thanks for being with us. You have.
09:10:18 Well, good morning, and thank you. Apologies. I got in 3Â min late this morning.
09:10:26 I, in my impromptu remarks last week regarding Sunshine Week, which we just finished.
09:10:34 So I realized that later that I neglected to commend the work that the county has done with respect to public records.
09:10:44 My comments were mostly focused on open public meetings, and how much the county has improved, and it's compliance.
09:10:54 And so forth. With respect to public records, the county has also done a really really good job of being responsive to public records.
09:11:02 Requests, your public records. Officer has been very helpful on a few requests that I've submitted recently, and I just wanted to express some thanks and appreciation and you
know it's interesting that the whole public records officer position and so forth.
09:11:24 Came about. As a result of a really massive lawsuit.
09:11:28 Against against Jefferson County, and the fact that that position is now properly staffed.
09:11:36 And so forth. I think, is really working out well.
09:11:40 So again. Thanks. Great appreciation. That's it. Thank you.
09:11:44 Thank you much, and I'll call right now.
09:11:50 See if anyone else has any public comments.
09:11:54 We'll keep it open till 9 30. Any response to Mr.
09:11:57 Tish, as we move through this.
09:12:00 No, I mean I last year, when I was chair of the board, I made a resolution for myself at the beginning of the year, probably the week of Christmas before just saying I would
like to get more voices into our conversations and be more transparent, you know, we all kind of in our own ways of
09:12:21 resolve to that, and I'm glad to see that it's being noticed in the community, and you know it's still a really strange time and we're still coming out of Covid and our chambers
are mostly empty.
09:12:30 Most of the time, and still would say to the community, we'd love to hear from more of.
09:12:37 You see more of you, and I really appreciate folks like Mr.
09:12:43 Tears showing up and giving us input. So, thank you, yeah.
09:12:49 Likewise, it's great to have our officer, you know, doing the the public records request, and I appreciate Mr.
09:12:56 Tears highlighting that, and the work that's been done, and it's true, is that it was a reaction to alright big lawsuits with a lot of intensive public records requests.
09:13:09 But I am proud that we've maintained that position.
09:13:11 Recognizing kind of the landscape that that we work in now, and the importance of that work.
09:13:16 I just wish our national healthcare system took the same lesson.
09:13:20 You know, build resiliency instead of just discarding the slack as soon as the emergency is over.
09:13:28 So really to have happy to have this, you know, with us.
09:13:32 Okay, well, shall we consider the consent? Agenda?
09:13:37 We've talked about anything else. We wanted to highlight hope I'm happy to move that we approve.
09:13:41 The consent. Agenda for March 2020, 20, threethree.
09:13:44 Well, seconds, all in favor of approving it adopting the consent, agenda, as presented, indicate by alright that has passed.
09:13:57 Thank you, Staff, for all the work.
09:14:00 Feel like we should wait till 9 30 to take on the proclamation that's in front of us.
09:14:07 Huh! Ma just maximize the amount of people that might be with us.
09:14:14 So should we go into a little bit of briefing?
09:14:18 I guess sure, wanna start, yeah. So looking back to last week, well, one thing is, the sun came out.
09:14:30 That was shocking. It was warm, and the sun was out on Friday, but starting at the beginning of the week on Tuesday.
09:14:45 Tuesday morning, kind of meeting with our outgoing code compliance coordinator, Deb. Murdoch.
09:14:53 Just to go over cases in District 2, that she and I have been following together, and glad to see that some of them are coming to resolution, and others are cropping up so as
they get resolved new ones crop up.
09:15:07 So, we'll look forward to refilling that position.
09:15:11 Our Dcd. Repelling that position when they can, and then we had the human services Round Table.
09:15:19 That's hosted by the Y.M.C.A. Tanya Barnett, their family navigator, and Jim Kingfisher, with the Community Foundation, and I always appreciate being at that table.
09:15:31 It's a huge round table. Human service providers in the community.
09:15:36 And the assortment of issues that are covered. I don't think are all covered anywhere else.
09:15:42 It's a really good table to be at in the afternoon.
09:15:49 We had the Tcc tourism coordinating council meeting attended remotely for the first hour, and then popped out to share the Behavioral Health Advisory Committee.
09:16:03 And you know that that is also another good large table of folks.
09:16:09 And it's interesting. There's been a lot of in depth conversation there.
09:16:15 Kind of that about how we handle certain programs in the community and how we handle the funding that is coming in from the opioid settlements.
09:16:25 And if there's the potential for it to be runs through existing consortiums or committees that we have, and it'll be interesting to come up with a solution for that in in the
near future.
09:16:42 Wednesday morning I had a meeting with some of our team about a job fair.
09:16:46 This coming up at the that I will be helping with, and we had our strategic plan.
09:16:55 Our Wednesday standing strategic plan check in meeting with our consultants and our surveys have gone out and are getting really fabulous.
09:17:03 Responses. We send them out to the community stakeholder, survey out to 400 400 people in the community, and the staff surveys gone out.
09:17:13 A few times so, and really good response rates coming in from both of those.
09:17:18 So I look forward to reviewing all the input we get via this process.
09:17:24 In the afternoon we did interviews with 2 consultants, who submitted proposals for our community.
09:17:32 Wildfire protection, planning Rfp. And I think we all unanimously landed on one that we look forward to working with, and we'll be moving forward with that process which is
super exciting, and that uses our section is it section 3.
09:17:51 Title. 3. Yeah. Title 3 funds that we've had marks for quite a while with no way to use them.
09:18:02 So I'm really glad that we're moving forward with that Wednesday evening, Commissioner Brotherton and I were both at Town Hall and Brennan.
09:18:08 And I'll let him brief us on that. I was just there to be a fly on the wall, cause I was excited that it would be an opportunity to be in a room with quite a few people, and
here your input.
09:18:20 From a number of residents interact. So that was a great meeting.
09:18:26 Thursday morning I attended the Land Trust Conservation breadf.
09:18:31 Had lunch with Director Butler, of Dcp. I went to a trust land transfer legislative check-in there's been a lot of mechaninations with the Bill House Bill, 1460.
09:18:47 I don't think it's settled yet, and I'm just looking forward to that bill getting past.
09:18:53 Have a lot more time freed up. Thursday afternoon we had our Board of Health Meeting.
09:19:00 And then Friday. I Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary meeting virtually, and then left early Friday afternoon, and I'll just come in again.
09:19:17 It's astounding. How many evenings we end up doing stuff as commissioners, and I think people, you know, everyone else has to work.
09:19:23 So we come here. We work all day, and then we go to evening meetings, and it's it's a lot.
09:19:28 And the week before. It was every night and last week I was just grateful.
09:19:32 It was only one. So Friday I left a little bit early and went outside and helped my neighbors tear down their woodshed, which felt so and so.
09:19:40 Now there's a new pile of width, or can't.
09:19:43 That's my week last week. Great! Let's see.
09:19:50 On Monday I was with everyone here. Tuesday. I was a of the office most of the day, taking my smash car finally into the shop.
09:19:59 6 months after it happened. I don't know forever.
09:20:03 It's just I'm just happy that someone else is looking at it.
09:20:06 I did manage to join the Quilson Brennan powered teams, coalition, and a big news that report from that is, we are applying, guiding good choices today to the board. I'm excited.
09:20:19 I've been trying to get my family to do it for agents, so if if I come back at the end of the summer there's a much more, hey? Sh!
09:20:26 Emotionally, Intelligence Chair. It's entirely because of that choices. So I'm looking forward to that awesome on Wednesday the developers meeting with with Holy Cap was good.
09:20:41 You know, we're just kind of coming into the end.
09:20:43 The 30. First is still the still, the grand opening, but it's it's just a rush to get everything done.
09:20:51 And you know all the kind of change orders and everything's coming to a head now with with the budget, you know.
09:20:58 So it's type. And then I was at the Brennan Town Hall with Commissioner Eisenhower Winsnesday night, and Sheriff Knoll and Tammy Piccorny and and Josh and Nick and Becka from
our Staff as
09:21:14 well as an Amanda Christopherson. Yes, thank you as well as chief manly communications. Mike. Yeah.
09:21:23 Taking questions, and bring in about everything from broadband to the community center to, you know, marginalization at the periphery of the county, and I thought it was a pretty
good pretty good conversation.
09:21:35 I got a little frosty sometimes. These rumors that just won't die.
09:21:39 I can only answer them so many times before I I don't know.
09:21:45 Tell people that they're spreading rumors, not asking questions, but that we were sponsoring on homeless.
09:21:55 Yes, and I know where. It's like the line in the newspaper that came from. So people told me.
09:22:00 But it's it's persistent. And even after I answered it I got asked again.
09:22:04 It was I got a little frosty, but really good meeting.
09:22:06 Great to see the folks from Brandon. And yeah, work proceeds.
09:22:14 I think they wanna have another one there, probably another town hall before we take our road.
09:22:19 Show the county road, Show, which is going to be down in Brennan early fall or late late summer, so yeah, a lot of interest in projects going on there I saw one of the letters
that we're looking at today trying to get another 70.
09:22:32 5 million dollars for the document, which would, I think, fully fund that so good time in Brennan.
09:22:40 On Thursday I had so so kind of had to change my schedule a little bit and send it Board of Health from remotely checked in with Mark remotely, and also met with the Jeff.
09:22:54 Johnson, the director of the Olympic region, Clean Air Agency.
09:22:58 Just kind of checking in on a couple things, including the salary study that we're doing there.
09:23:04 On Friday we had the sales behavioral Health Administrative Service.
09:23:08 Organization meeting and great moving along I don't think I have anything specific to report from that kind of coordination meeting.
09:23:21 Why? I don't know my contribution to that was expounding the the men's power of artificial intelligence is how it interacts with the public sector.
09:23:33 At a meeting with Lori Fleming, who chairs the Behavioral Health Coalition, and then we did.
09:23:39 That we're finally getting around to the only Cap executive Director Review.
09:23:43 So I met with that committee, had a meeting with the the porch and the county.
09:23:49 The point in the count and Dcd. Have a quarterly meeting.
09:23:52 That talk about projects. And I was really interested in the the Gardner Program project.
09:24:00 So kind of with a fly on the wall for that meeting.
09:24:04 Everything's moving a pace. Another thing that I just wanted to report is we got an email, I think on Friday, too, that the roundabout projects probably are not going to happen
this year.
09:24:14 So there's still engineering to happen. But (202) 024-2024 is when the round of ass will happen.
09:24:24 And yeah, on Sunday I went to a memorial service for Todd Armstrong, who is the general contractor for the first community build project.
09:24:34 With Peter's place, and was our kind of project manager in the beginning A.
09:24:39 Cosmo Brown village, just a really good I don't know irrepressible positivity on top of that strong skill set made him a real pleasure to work with.
09:24:50 So it's a real loss, and went out to share some of my recollections with with Todd's family and friends.
09:24:57 On Sunday in. So that was my week, mark you, wanna at the high points of last week.
09:25:07 Hey? Monday, the thirteenth, with the board pretty much all day.
09:25:13 Tuesday a weekly. I actually so 2 of my directors for performance appraisals, and I gotta tell you that's the first performance appraisal for Mont.
09:25:26 Probably in 20 years, I told him I didn't really need to do it, because he saw.
09:25:34 Anyway, I appreciate it. The discussion 18 meeting at 20'clock, and then I said in on the Behavioral Health Advisory Committee and interesting Proceedings, there.
09:25:53 Check in with Josh Peters and 8, 15 on Wednesday morning, and then the strategic plan project team meeting and you know I concur with Heidi.
09:26:06 Our numbers are looking really good. Last reported number of employees completing the employee survey under 2. So we're like 2030% 27.8%.
09:26:17 I lost. I lost our wager.
09:26:30 We know what our employees are thinking can react to it in a positive way.
09:26:35 And then lunch with Chief Black and I went over to the Pacific Conference Room for the beginning of the interviews and scoring for the community.
09:26:46 Wildfire, protection, plan, project. Super. Delighted with the consultant that the group selected and I'm really looking forward to the process and the product product that
that we expect them to predict.
09:27:00 And then we had our routine childcare, the Yca.
09:27:07 Congressionally directed spending project team meeting, and I just have to tip my head to Michael mark the work he's doing, husbanding the grant.
09:27:18 It's a complex. And you saw some pick work this morning, and that's just that has to occur.
09:27:24 So, good that we have him on staff, and Thursday morning that my weekend, and then, of course, the bake potato perk event, and they sold out.
09:27:39 They actually could have sold half dozen more so anyway, it looks like Perk has been re-energized.
09:27:45 Right. That's a good thing and then Agenda, planning with the remotely at 1 30, and then I met with a number of employees from one of our departments in the afternoon, Thursday,
Friday.
09:28:01 Very well attended coordination. Meeting one of the principal topics, generated quite a bit of discussion.
09:28:09 What's the First Amendment auditor? The 2 gentlemen that wondered about filming our employees and a great deal of discussion about that react to that sort of thing in the future?
09:28:25 And staff did. Fantastic. By the way, yes, letting it happen is, you know.
09:28:28 Yeah, yeah, thank you. Very. You're right.
09:28:32 I think we did very well in reacting to those 2 gentlemen.
09:28:36 And then Sarah and I had a very truthful organization about a very truthful organization, about the department of community development.
09:28:48 We've got some ideas about the organization there, and how we can better organize to take care of the needs of this community.
09:28:56 So could we have, and quite a bit of staff work getting our programs ready for your approval and other things.
09:29:05 So, hey? And I neglected one other thing. I on Friday afternoon I stopped by seventh.
09:29:12 David, and looked at one of the artists and installing art, and I actually, I use my new vlogging setup and made a video so I'm gonna share a video really quick.
09:29:19 Okay to create the video. They used AI to ask questions about the new software I was using.
09:29:30 And it was super helpful. It's like having your own personal assistant.
09:29:37 I'm not sure if didn't give me an option to see if it won't actually play.
09:29:51 Is it it's not playing to the meeting, though, is it?
09:29:55 It will take off your I'm your audio on your laptops.
09:30:02 Speaker, microphone. Here. Yes, I worked primarily in mosaic, although with this project and mixing up mosaic and painted murals so what I'm doing right now is taking these
optical tentacles that I made in my studio on mesh and
09:30:18 I'm bringing them here and putting them into thin set onto this pillar to make it look like the sorry wrapping around and finding this so this was a project that involves a
lot of community engagement.
09:30:31 And my proposal was to work with kids here locally and I managed to connect up with the Jefferson County, Y.M.C.A.
09:30:40 And worked with the kids at Mountain View. So initially, we made from these same kind of tiles. And that was really fun.
09:30:48 Those are gonna go in another area of the project by the, and then I came up and we did painting onto polytap panel.
09:30:59 So to the parachute fabric that is to to become neurons.
09:31:04 Cool. That's it. Okay? So in the last call for public comments, don't see any raised hands.
09:31:17 Alright! So we will close public comment and move to our proclamation.
09:31:25 Bring it? Huh?
09:31:29 Hey? This is a proclamation that proclaims March twenty-th to 20 sixth, 2023 as national drug and alcohol facts.
09:31:38 Week. We do have a guess with us. We'll turn it over to Holly after we read the proclamation getting ready.
09:31:46 Yeah.
09:31:53 So why don't I go first alright? So a proclamation for national drug and alcohol, whereas national drug and alcohol facts week is sponsored by the National Institute of on Drug
Abuse in Ida and the National Institute on Alcohol
09:32:09 Abuse and alcoholism, and I, aaa at the National Institutes of Health in the Us.
09:32:13 Department of Health and Human Services, whereas National Guard and Alcohol Facts Week is a celebration of the inquisitive minds of teenagers and encourages them to ask questions
about drugs, drug abuse alcohol and alcoholism and get scientifically, based answers
09:32:30 without judgment of the biased comments, and whereas the National Institute, on Drug Abuse stimulates most of the world's research on drug abuse and addiction, and camp can
offer science as a key element of the national and community conversation about drugs and we're asked to celebrate the efforts
09:32:45 of national and community organizations, working with teams to encourage the science-based conversations about drugs, drug abuse, alcohol, and alcohol and.
09:32:57 Oh, sorry I lost it now, therefore, now, therefore, be resolved that the Jefferson County Border Commissioners on behalf of our youth, Jefferson County, do hereby proclaim March
twentieth to 20 sixth 2023 as National drug and alcohol facts, week, National and in
09:33:13 Jefferson County, Washington, this week, and year round. We urge all citizens to get the facts about what alcohol tobacco, and other drugs can do to our bodies and lives, and
to start the conversation about how to prevent use and overuse with youth and adults alike
09:33:28 proclaim this twentieth day of March 2023.
09:33:31 Shall we approve this proclamation this week?
09:33:41 March, 26 to the twentieth. March twentieth to the 20 sixth, as National Dragon Alcohol.
09:33:47 Facts, week all in favor, indicate by saying, I alright, and this is a great news excited.
09:33:58 That we're paying attention to that. And it's it's a really grim time for the recreational drug user because they kill you.
09:34:06 Now in a way that they did not, even 10 years ago.
09:34:09 So it's a very, very pertinent today's life, and Paul again gone from the Quilian and Brennan and power tease coalition is with us today.
09:34:17 You want to see a few words about this, all having you for anyone that is not familiar.
09:34:22 Jefferson County has 3 youth, substance meetings, politicians. One is heading through Port Townsend.
09:34:30 There's another income, and I coordinate the South.
09:34:36 I just have a brief history on how national drug and alcohol facts came about, and the following description can be found on national drug and alcohol backs.
09:34:52 Week is an annual reform, health insurance science dialogue about the science of drug use and addiction among the it provides an opportunity to bring together sites, students,
educators, healthcare providers, and community partners to advance the science and address youth drug and alcohol use in
09:35:10 communities and nationwide. It was launched in 2,010 by cyclists at the National Institute on Drug Abuse and Id, stimulate educational events in communities so teams can learn
about what science has taught us about drug use and addiction national institute on alcohol abuse and
09:35:30 alcoholism, and Ia became a partner in 2,016, and alcohol has since been added as a topic.
09:35:37 Again!
09:35:39 An Ida and Niaa are part of the National Institutes of Health and Work, with leading organizations, media outlets, and other government agencies to spread the word about national
drug and alcohol tax week on behalf of the power teams coalition of Jefferson county thank you Commissioners for
09:35:58 recognizing the importance of holding space for Democrats and leading to youth, substance, use.
09:36:03 Together we will continue to support prevention efforts not only this week, but year round.
09:36:09 Your injection account. Thanks so much, Holly, nicely done.
09:36:13 Yeah. It's ongoing work. And I think it's it's really great that all 3 Commissioners sit on a different youth and treatment group.
09:36:24 So we're all really kind of hip to the work that's going on.
09:36:27 And the integrity members can always work for at the public health website and find out our contact delegation yeah, so just holly away from the microphone. But any community
members that are interested can find information about how to participate at the community health website.
09:36:47 Great thanks, so much, Alan. All right. Well, we can find out. Okay. So we do.
09:36:57 Just we do our exping Kbtz and Dr.
09:36:58 Barry and Willie Vince at 9 45. So we've got a few more minutes.
09:37:03 Take a look at this upcoming week hey? Did you wanna take a look at your calendar?
09:37:09 I don't have any conflicts this week.
09:37:12 Let's see.
09:37:14 So all day today here with you guys, and then tomorrow morning I have a colleague with a birthday.
09:37:33 Happy, Eve of Greg's day, and then tomorrow morning I have a meeting with the Community Foundation regarding an event that I'm helping them plan and couple of events.
09:37:48 Probably what we'll end up talking about. And then the afternoon is, there is a special transit meeting.
09:38:01 Board meeting, and then on Wednesday we are meeting with a set of folks with a stake in the game around the gateway Visitor Center.
09:38:12 Mark and I. So to talk about that redo of that site.
09:38:20 And then we have our weekly strategic planning meeting, which it's gonna be going on.
09:38:26 What? For the next 2 months probably will be having a weekly meetings to check in on all of the work in activities we're doing around our strategic plan project.
09:38:35 And let's see. And then in the afternoon I start.
09:38:45 Along with May, real Advisory Committee, coordinator, Anna Mcginry, and other service providers in our community. We have our annual vendor meetings. So what we'll start having
those Wednesday afternoon and then.
09:39:02 Thursday. I have a trust and transfer legislative check-in and then the solid waste advisory committee, Friday.
09:39:12 I am going to Angela, and we are interviewing consultants for the Olympic Peninsula.
09:39:20 Wide tourism, strategic planning effort will not be in all of these meetings that Mark is doing around the strategic planning on Friday you need someone to cover for you.
09:39:35 Well, I think you'll be in one of them, at least because there's an elected officials other than and I don't need to be in the employee once.
09:39:47 I don't need to do that so I think I'm fine.
09:39:48 Okay. I don't think I have any complex this week, but you can't do the meetings on fire I'm not gonna be in those meetings it showed up on my calendar, but I checked in last
week, and it didn't sound.
09:39:59 Like I needed to be in a, is that, yeah? Okay? So that's it for me this week.
09:40:07 Because you're on the committee at all. I think we wanted to be aware.
09:40:09 Yeah, and no 18 meetings this week, which is, oh, what's going on Saturday?
09:40:19 We are attending the Chamber awards, Sam, because Mark and I nominated Mallory for rising entrepreneur, and she's a finalist.
09:40:35 So we are showing up to represent.
09:40:38 Alright! Let's see my week here with you guys today having lunch with folks from Kptz setting up our ongoing radio program with Kptz.
09:40:50 Yes, tomorrow I'm meeting with Jonan from Hrsa.
09:40:56 That funded the behavioral health consortium to talk about kind of.
09:41:01 I don't know what's next, as as that grant is spent out by in August or November, I think, forgetting.
09:41:10 And I have the South County Farm reduction meeting in the afternoon and the model also be at the special meeting for the Jefferson transit authority on Wednesday meeting with
a citizen or coffee in the morning, and then I'm going to my second wasack broadband
09:41:31 advisory Committee meeting, then meeting with folks around public works and parks, and Rec.
09:41:37 About the State Park proposal down in to get that fleshed out and figure out how that grant goes out.
09:41:43 Having lunch with our Public Health Director on Wednesday, and then the Housing Fun Board meeting is Wednesday afternoon, and we do have multiple applicants for the housing.
09:41:57 The 2 open housing on board, positions. So that's exciting.
09:42:02 We'll make a decision on. When on Thursday we have a meeting, and then, having lunch with our Central Services director to talk artificial intelligence.
09:42:14 Then Thursday afternoon is the meeting with Washt for the Hood Canal.
09:42:20 Center lock briefing for emergency services. So we might get a little bit more information, though I think they've made it pretty clear that they are not shifting those dates.
09:42:27 Oh, they might expand the dates, and then I probably have to move the agenda agenda, setting meeting with Mark half an hour, if that's possible.
09:42:36 What do you mean? They might expand the dates, they might not be able to finish in 4 weekends, especially if they're adding openings.
09:42:45 You know I mean I'm sure an opening of 20Â min causes a two-hour delay.
09:42:52 So I think that it's a real possibility, depending on how flexible they are.
09:42:55 It means an expansion like the most flexible things.
09:43:03 They'll roll over things festival weekend.
09:43:07 Saying that? Yeah, but that would be super unfortunate if they did.
09:43:10 And I mean I'm still Fielding calls from all sorts of folks about the impacts of that.
09:43:17 Those bridge closures. So again, and I will reiterate it looks like the roundabouts are not happening at Beer Valley and at the bridge until the center of 24, and then Friday
I am got a pretty flexible day might even go to the legislature virtual update from
09:43:34 Whatsapp this week, and that is my week.
09:43:36 I also have no evening meetings this week, which which is a pleasure mark.
09:43:44 Can you talk about your week in a few minutes minutes with, of course, today I'm enjoying today with my commissioners tomorrow, Senior management team meeting by that meeting
is devoted to very done interviewing my senior management team and so not a routine senior management meeting at all and then
09:44:04 1, 35. I go out to the Alps to donate a plane of first time. I've done that in a decade.
09:44:14 So back into the sling, 18 to 20'clock, and then I'll be checkin in with Washington County Administrators Association. Sure.
09:44:23 So my big question is. And I asked Eric Johnson this about revenue Shar Sharpa, second tranche.
09:44:33 They have the formula with money coming. Yeah, you said you would check in on that and I'll share whatever right here.
09:44:41 Wednesday, gateway. Visitor Center Transition.
09:44:45 I was so happy to hear Shelley, still the director of the Historical Society, and will help us through this transition and the Strategic Plan Project team meeting, and then
our childcare Provider teammate in the afternoon, Thursday Jeff.
09:45:03 On agenda, planning, and then on the 20 fourth, a busy day for very done 2 employee group interviews at one cent morning.
09:45:14 Once in the afternoon, and that' in the morning. And then I'm having lunch with John Marner.
09:45:19 Okay, and then, of course, the 20 fifth, I figure something now or 8 Wednesday morning.
09:45:27 Okay, well, thank you. Guys, good. We don't have any conflicts that you know of yet, and we will welcome the listeners from Kptz and bring Dr.
09:45:40 Barry and Willie if he's with us yet over. And good morning, Dr.
09:45:45 Good.
09:45:44 Barry good to have you with us, and yeah, we'll pass it off to you.
09:45:47 Good morning. Nice to see you all the news on the Covid fronts, as far as cases in transmission is relatively good. So at the national level we are seeing cases, hospitalizations,
and that's down Trend.
09:46:08 This week we're actually down to 334 deaths per day, which for reference is still about 3 times a bad flu season. So we're still seeing far more deaths from COVID-19 than we'd
like to see but it is moving in a better direction than where we're
09:46:21 working in Washington State cases, hospitalizations and deaths are relatively flat, but they never experienced the surge that other parts of the country did around Xvd.
09:46:30 1.5, so kind of hang in steady there in Jefferson County.
09:46:35 We are seeing a case rate of 2 21 per 100,000 with a case assertment rate of one in 12 so still kind of paying steady at that high transmission rate of over 2,000 cases per
100,000, if you factor in the case asertainment rate, but thankfully we are not seeing a spike in
09:46:51 severe disease related to the virus. Here we have no one currently hospitalized for COVID-19, and no new decks to replace this week we have seen a total of 36 deaths due to
COVID-19 at this time we did report one new death last week.
09:47:11 And that was in a person in their sixties who is not up to date.
09:47:11 We are in neighboring Clum County. We are seeing a case rate of 82 per 100,000, with a case asertainment rate of one in 20 with 2 people currently hospitalized, and a total
of 164 deaths in county in Jefferson into a lesser
09:47:29 extent in we are really seeing this decoupling of severe disease and death and case rates.
09:47:36 So before, throughout much of the pandemic. Whenever we had a surge in cases we had a subsequent surge in hospitalizations.
09:47:43 But in highly vaccinated regions of the country, including Jefferson County.
09:47:49 We're starting to see this split where we have very high rates of COVID-19 still still hanging on, still seeing lots of transmission.
09:47:56 But we're not seeing the subsequent hospitalizations and deaths that we used to see earlier in the pandemic and the primary driver of that really is the vaccine.
09:48:06 So we remain one of the most vaccinated counties in the country, and that is really making all the difference to reduce our risk of these severe outcomes from COVID-19 now there
are still risks related to COVID-19.
09:48:20 We are so we still see Long Covid related to Covid-nineteen, but that is also less likely.
09:48:28 If you are up to date on your vaccines, it is still worth trying to avoid getting Covid if you can, and trying to avoid repeated infections.
09:48:35 We do know that long Covid is more likely if you have multiple infections on top of each other, the other interesting piece of data that was recently released in the last week
was a report out of the Cdc.
09:48:45 Showing a spike in maternal mortality. In 2021, and the large majority of that spike was actually driven by COVID-19 itself.
09:48:54 COVID-19 remains very dangerous in pregnancy.
09:48:58 It increases the risk of actually maternal mortality. It also increases the risks of pre-term labor and miscarriages.
09:49:05 It is worth particularly protecting those in our community who are pregnant, however, the best thing you can do to reduce that risk of severe disease, and all the negative outcomes
related to COVID-19 in pregnancy is to stay up to date in your vaccines our populations over 65 are some of the best
09:49:26 vaccinated but some of our younger folks are not up to date on their vaccines.
09:49:28 They've not gotten their most recent bivalent booster, and that is the folks that experienced pregnancy.
09:49:33 So making sure that if you are, if you are in your reproductive years, if you're thinking about getting pregnant it's a good time to get up to date on your vaccines.
09:49:43 If you are already pregnant, we know that these vaccines are increly safe in pregnancy, and much, much safer than the virus itself.
09:49:50 We also know that if you get vaccinated in your second or third trimester, that that actually can pass on protection to your infant from COVID-19, and our very young infants
are the only group who are not eligible for vaccines so it's a good way to protect that baby as
09:50:06 well on the policy front. There are a lot of changes coming in the next couple of months, even in the next couple of weeks we've heard from the State Department of Health that
they're say, yes, Covid test.
09:50:19 Is starting to phase out. So that's the program where you can order tests online from the state.
09:50:25 The funding for that is going away at the lifting of the Federal emergency.
09:50:30 And so they're starting to try to look through their inventories of tests so that they can make sure that they can stretch it as far as they can to meet the needs of particularly
those who can't access testing in other ways, so Cs Covid test is still, available to folks
09:50:47 in our region, but it is going to stop being available at the lift of the Federal state of emergency, and they have scaled it back to be just one test per household per month,
so you can still order.
09:50:58 But they're still there, and in relatively soon that's going to be going away in on Mailvin when they lift the Federal state of emergency. I think it's been a really critical
program, it's been very successful.
09:51:12 But when the funding goes away we just can't.
09:51:13 We can't support it at the state or local level.
09:51:15 We actually did get a Kptz question about testing, so might as well go ahead and address that.
09:51:21 Now, so we do still have free tests available for COVID-19 from the Department of Public.
09:51:27 And that's particularly for those who can't afford to buy tests on their own.
09:51:32 We have them at the Jefferson County Public Health Department.
09:51:35 We also are distributing them throughout the county with in partnership with the bookmobile, and in South County we have them at the Brennan and Disco Bay Fire stations for
those who can't who wouldn't otherwise be able to get all the way up to port townsend and
09:51:50 quil scene as well at the Fire stations. So that's a couple options for how to get access to testing between.
09:51:56 Now, and the lifting of the Federal state of emergency.
09:52:00 We are currently exploring. If there are ways that we can continue to support testing in our community even after the Federal funding goes away.
09:52:07 But that's going to be a big challenge, and we'll keep you guys up to date as we move forward with that last but not least, a big change that we are seeing is the lifting of
the mass mandate in healthcare settings at the state level.
09:52:20 So until April third. It is mandatory that people going into healthcare facilities, whether you're patient or a provider, that you have to wear a mask in those spaces and after
April, third, that mask mandate is lifting.
09:52:35 And I actually do think it's appropriate to move out of, to move to the new phase of the pandemic which is moving out of the phase of government mandates and kind of emergency
orders and into what our new normal is going to need to look like for for some time
09:52:51 period to come. We have the way that we operated before Covid.
09:52:55 And now we have to figure out how to live with Covid.
09:52:59 We don't know how long we're gonna see high rates of COVID-19 treatments.
09:53:04 It's possible that it will move into a seasonal pattern like the flu, or like Rsp, but right now it's still with us, still circulating in high rates and it can still be very
dangerous for individuals in our community who are high risk so in healthcare settings what we're transitioning into is
09:53:21 what we've done before, which is called standard of care.
09:53:23 So prior to Covid. Before any of this happened, we have what's called infection prevention protocols.
09:53:29 Make sure that you don't get sick when you come.
09:53:31 See your doctor. And so, in the vast majority of healthcare settings, you're still gonna see your provider, your nurse, the folks that you see wearing a mask when they see you.
09:53:41 But it will stop being mandatory for patients, and that's because, as your healthcare provider, we really value your health, and we particularly feel a responsibility to not
make you sick.
09:53:53 So when you come see us you can bring sickness to our space cause. We're here to kill you, but we don't.
09:53:59 And so you are likely to see in most healthcare facilities.
09:54:03 But they're still going to mask when they see you, and they're gonna recommend that patients mask, particularly if you're feeling sick.
09:54:09 It's gonna be. It's a particularly good idea to wear a mask when you're there, but it will no longer be required, and with that I'm happy to take any questions from our commissioners.
09:54:20 Any questions today? Well, the Board of Health. There was some conversation about the emergency order, the temporary.
09:54:30 Is it the thirteenth or fourteenth, and that it's on us to pull that back?
09:54:37 We didn't talk about that at the counting coordination.
09:54:42 That was just something I flagged from last week to check in today about, I think that you guys no go ahead, doctor.
09:54:50 No, no!
09:54:46 Yeah, I think it go ahead. Sorry I was. Gonna say, I do think it does feel like it's an appropriate time to move to this next phase in our pandemic response.
09:54:58 The challenge. I think we often face is that when we lift these orders, because we've been living under them so long often that can be perceived as if the pandemic is over,
as if there's no more need for these interventions but there is but I do think we are moving out.
09:55:15 Of the phase of emergency orders. We're moving into what our new normal needs to look like.
09:55:28 Okay.
09:55:19 And it's just incumbent on us as a society, as political leaders, as health leaders to figure out how to do that as well as possible, and to keep to work on keeping the vulnerable
faith as well as we can.
09:55:32 But I do think it feels like an appropriate time, particularly in places like Jefferson, where we are so well vaccinated that we're starting to see this.
09:55:41 This decoupling of severe disease from case rates.
09:55:43 I think we are moving into a new phase of the pandemic, and so moving out of emergency does seem a.
09:55:52 Yeah, please.
09:55:51 Did I follow up on that a little bit? I find myself in Mini congregate situations now, where I kind of feel like I'm a little, you know. I don't know.
09:56:06 Yeah.
09:56:02 It's a malaria hubris and complacency where I don't put on a map and a in a congregate setting, you know.
09:56:10 I want my daughter to be able to see me smiling when she's playing at the Orcestral concert, or something, watching the Oscars.
09:56:15 Yeah.
09:56:15 You know. I think Jessica Chastain was the only person that wore a mask at the whole Oscar, so I guess I'm wondering what you're evaluation of.
09:56:25 That is, I mean I am. If I'm sick, I value source control.
09:56:30 I mean I am. If I'm sick I value source control. I would put on a mask or attend virtually or not at all what's your thought about concrete settings?
09:56:35 And I guess the your risk reward equation from asking and congregate settings.
09:56:44 Sure. Really good question. So as we move into this phase, what do we do with the masks?
09:56:51 Do we still wear them? When do we wear them? And that does become a bit more of an individual decision, because you know your risk profile, and the risk profile of your house
better than I do?
09:57:02 There are a couple of things to take into account, as you make those decisions, though, so one the first one you mentioned, I think, is really important.
09:57:09 If you're at all ill, so if you're very ill, please stay home.
09:57:13 It's really important to stay home. You could be transmitting COVID-19 or some other infection to the people around you that people don't want.
09:57:20 But if you're mildly ill, if you're not sure, if you're ill, or if it's something that you can't miss, wearing a mask is a really good way to still attend and reduce your risk
of spreading it to other people, if you're not attending a very high
09:57:32 risk space. You don't go hang out in a long-term care facility if you're mildly ill.
09:57:36 But if you're going to relatively low risk space, if you're feeling mildly a little off, that's a really good time to put on a mask so you can go enjoy be with the people you
love, and reduce your risk of sharing unintended viruses with them but if
09:57:51 you're feeling 100% well, and you're up to date on your vaccines.
09:57:56 And you're not particularly high. Risk yourself.
09:58:00 It is reasonable in some settings to go ahead and try out unmasking.
09:58:04 If that's of interest to you. The primary thing that we're seeing there that makes that more possible is that we are seeing less pre symptomatic transmission in people who are
up to date on their vaccines.
09:58:18 So, if you are all the way up to date on your vaccines, you've gotten your bivalent booster.
09:58:22 You're doing well. We are seeing that generally there's been a change in the viral dynamics of Kovat, because your immediate system is already primed.
09:58:33 It's ready to respond to Covid. And so we're seeing people get symptoms faster in their course, and they're viral.
09:58:38 Load rises later, and so you have a little more time to keep from giving Covid to others.
09:58:43 In prior days, when we you know, in the first couple years of the pandemic, most transmission happened before your symptoms developed.
09:58:51 But in those who are up to date on their vaccines.
09:58:53 That's no longer true. You usually feel sick by the time you can give Covid to other people, and so that gives you one other layer of control to reduce your risk of giving Covid
to others.
09:59:02 So if you're up to date, I think it's reasonable to try out in concrete settings, unmasking.
09:59:09 But everybody has to make that decision for themselves. If you're high, risk yourself, and it's a large indoor congregate setting, I would definitely recommend wearing a mask
for myself.
09:59:16 I just really don't want Covid, and I've got a small child at home.
09:59:21 And so basically, my rough rule of thumb is, if it's over 20 people, I put a mask on I don't find them constricting.
09:59:29 I wear them all day at work so it's just not that hard for me to do, and I don't mind it, and I feel really confident that the people in my life can see my eyes and make no
one.
09:59:38 I'm happy whether or not they seem like that, but that's a that's a responsibility that everybody has to do for themselves.
09:59:47 But large, congregate indoor does carry the risk of spreading covid, as we saw with the with some of the awards, ceremonies.
09:59:53 There were subsequent outbreaks of Covid related to them, but not among those more masks so they are still a good tool, and each family, each household will have to weigh some
of this decision-making for themselves.
10:00:06 But that's some of how I make that decision in my family.
10:00:10 So your own risk. Whether or not you're sick.
10:00:13 Risk of anybody in your household, and then how risky the event is, if it's 600 people closed indoors feeling kind of stuffy, almost guaranteed someone there has Covid, and
your risk of exposure is higher.
10:00:25 So consider that as you as you make those decisions, but if you're well, you're up to date on your vaccines, and you're not feeling any symptoms at all, you are unlikely to
spread it to others, and so it's a little bit safer to try out on masking particularly when it comes to
10:00:38 source control.
10:00:40 Thank you very much for that, and you lost consideration, that's all I have. Yeah, let's get the K.
10:00:46 Ptz questions.
10:00:47 Okay, just a few. This week, we have someone who talked about they dropped their Kf, 94 on the ground.
10:00:57 They want to know. Does that mean? I need to throw it away, and generally it depends on what it felt in.
10:01:04 But if it just fell on kind of normal ground, it's really okay, especially if it fell on the outside.
10:01:08 Just wipe it off and and keep wearing it.
10:01:11 The mask is designed to filter things from the outside in, and so if there's a little bit of dust or dirt on the outside, that's actually part of what the mask was built for.
10:01:20 So it's it's okay to keep using something like that.
10:01:25 Of course, if it's frankly soiled, if it fell into anything wet, and it got moistened when it hit the ground, it's no longer gonna work for you, and if it fell into a particular
dirty area, then I wouldn't use that again also when you're thinking surgical masks, which
10:01:38 are flatter that fell on the face side. The part that's going to go against your mouth.
10:01:43 Do, toss that and get another one. But brief contact with the ground.
10:01:46 Doesn't necessarily mean that your masks needs to be thrown away.
10:01:50 Now, if it fell down, you know, in a healthc setting on the ground, I'd go ahead and pick up another one, because the healthcare setting ground is pretty dirty.
10:01:58 There's a lot of infectious particles there, and it's and we have enough mass now to get to.
10:02:05 Yeah, please.
10:02:04 Can I follow up on that question? Not about anything that you answered.
10:02:09 That was all very clear, but it was a an assumption in the that you didn't reference.
10:02:13 That here's a question for me, and I'm wondering, as long as we have.
10:02:21 Sure!
10:02:17 You know, epidemiologist on the on, on the phone here, if you do drop food on the floor, is what is you think about the 5Â s?
10:02:26 Sure it's it's dropping a mask on the floor.
10:02:30 The same is dropping food on the floor. Do we automatically throw it out?
10:02:34 And I would say, it's depends on the floor.
10:02:36 And depends on the space where you are in my family.
10:02:40 So I'm a physician, and I have a degree in epidemiology, and we food that hits the floor.
10:02:46 So it's generally most bacteria in our world is not profoundly dangerous to you.
10:02:51 Now there are spaces that I would certainly not do, that in health care facilities being one, thanks to the Florida healthcare facility.
10:03:00 Talk them out, certainly, and wetness matters. So most most infectious diseases that we talk about Liver for much, much longer on wet surfaces, so if it fell on the ground in
a wet place, or any place that's particularly dirty tossing we do have
10:03:17 Nora virus circulating in the community. So I also would make that decision differently, depending on if it was a public space or a private space, it hits the floor in my kitchen.
10:03:27 I know what's been there. I know who has been there, and I'm fine with it.
10:03:32 If it hit the floor in a much more public eating setting, I'd be a little more likely to let it go.
10:03:37 So. Yes, the 5Â s rule is valid if you can pick it up quickly, and if it's not wet or particularly.
10:03:44 It's a great confirmation. Thank you.
10:03:46 No worries this next question. Sorry?
10:03:51 Oh, mark was wondering about, I think it's still more depends on the floor than the amount of time you know.
10:03:59 Definitely depends on the floor. Yeah. And the type of food. So is it a solid food or a wet food?
10:03:59 But you gotta have an easy.
10:04:04 Yeah, exactly. No. I have a toddler. A lot of food hits the ground in my house.
10:04:11 And we're okay with that, a healthy gut microbiome is good for you.
10:04:15 So the last session we talked a lot, and this is my oversight.
10:04:20 I talked a lot about the State hotline that you can call for a packs loaded prescription.
10:04:25 If you can't get in with your primary care, Provider but I didn't share how to get there, so thank you for that request, so you can get to it from the State Department of Health's
website, and that's do H. Dot Wa go back slash emergencies.
10:04:41 Back. Last COVID-19 and that's and then if if you scroll down, there's a section on treatments and it has a link for how to get to the online packs Lovid prescription, we also
have a link to it from the Jefferson County, public health
10:04:57 COVID-19, page. So right from the home page, if you scroll down, there's a spot where it's talks about what you might need if you test positive for Covid.
10:05:04 And right there is a link for the State treatment site.
10:05:07 If the Internet is not super accessible to you, and kind of navigating all of those links is challenging, you can call the Doh Hotline at (180) 525-0127, and they'll help you
access a prescription for packs if you have tested positive for
10:05:27 Covid. So those are all good options to help people get what they need.
10:05:30 And sorry those are for slash instead of backslashes.
10:05:35 My apologies. But do you reach.com emergencies? Covid?
10:05:39 19, and then scroll to the part about treatments if you do have a primary care, provider always best to try their first.
10:05:47 But if you don't have access to a primary care provider, or they can't get you in a raceable amount of time, then that's a good option, and we do have confirmation from the
State Department of Health.
10:05:56 That that system is going to extend, at least until the beginning of June.
10:06:00 A little bit after the lifting of the Federal state of emergency.
10:06:03 It's not clear yet whether or not it will extend past that a lot of us, all of public health right now is struggling with how we're going to keep these programs going forward
when the funding goes away, and a lot of funding was tied to the Federal State of
10:06:20 emergency so if all that funding goes away and there's nothing to replace it, many of these programs are unfortunately going to need to phase out. But we do have it with us
until June.
10:06:31 This last question, this person mentioned that they were in Seattle, and they heard a a recorded drug store announcement encouraging folks to get an additional booster if it's
been more than 2 months since they completed their prior series, and they were wondering if a new booster is
10:06:48 out, and there is no new booster out. I believe that that announcement was just recommending getting the buy-in, even though most of us in Jefferson County have gotten our bivalent
vaccine.
10:07:00 Most of other counties have not and so a lot of times they're still advertising them as if it's new because 4 people haven't gotten it yet.
10:07:09 It still can feel pretty new. But no, unfortunately there is no new booster available and the reason for that is, we are still seeing good protection from the bivalent booster
that you got in the fall. It's not perfect.
10:07:22 You can still get breakthrough infection on top of it, but the protection it gets severe.
10:07:25 Disease is still remaining, including for those who are high risk.
10:07:30 So if you, if you're up to date on your bivalent, and if you mask in those congregate settings, you can still do really well, particularly if you're high risk, it's really important
to make sure that you are wearing a mask in those in those high-risk congregate settings to prevent
10:07:43 any risk of a breakthrough that could end up severe for you.
10:07:47 We know that there are individuals in our community and in every community who can't respond fully to their vaccines. They don't get the full protection primarily because of
their immune status.
10:08:02 And if you're in that group, it's still important to wear a high quality, mask to protect you from the severe outcomes of COVID-19.
10:08:04 And with that I am happy to take any other questions from our commissioners or past.
10:08:10 Willie!
10:08:14 Thank you.
10:08:16 We may. Maybe another one will come up, but we'll give Willie, perhaps unprecedented, 22Â min, and so.
10:08:24 Yeah. Unfortunately, despite the unprecedented 22Â min, I don't have a lot to share.
10:08:28 I guess the good news is that there's not a lot of news on the emergency management front.
10:08:35 I will add to the 5Â s rule discourse, that there is a great old episode of mythbusters.
10:08:40 You can watch which basically confirms everything Dr. Barry shared with us today.
10:08:43 Otherwise I'm here. No Kptc. Questions for me, but I'm happy to take any questions.
10:08:50 Really, I'm wondering what if anything has been launched about the bridge closure kind of emergency contendency planning.
10:09:01 Have you heard any? Okay? Yeah.
10:09:03 What we have our meeting this week. That sounds like Commissioner Brotherton will be at on the 20 third.
10:09:11 Okay.
10:09:09 I'm washed out his meeting with emergency responders and emergency services so we'll be talking with them later this week, and then they're coming back to the first week of
April.
10:09:20 That's kind of our kickoff emergency planning meeting with them.
10:09:22 I'm working with lit deadly. Who's the regional emergency manager for?
10:09:26 Washed out for the Peninsula. That's when we're gathered some of our local Eoc members to start talking about our emergency posture.
10:09:34 Our people that's April fifth, so we'll have some more information coming out of that meeting.
10:09:40 That meetings in the morning, and then in the afternoon I'm washed out, is going over to Palm County to hold a similar planning meeting, and then I'll be working pretty closely
with the under sheriff and Cloud, and Who's also their emergency management director I'm Ron Cameron we talked about our plan
10:09:58 for the as a whole, so series of meetings lined up.
10:09:58 Once we knock specifically the Eoc's popularity of the plans will be putting together.
10:10:02 I know a lot of our individual partner agencies we've been having some direct conversations already.
10:10:09 A lot of contingencies being planned for research is being put in place.
10:10:13 I'm just a matter of making sure we're all on the same page again, coming out of some of those coordination meetings.
10:10:18 Great, thank you, and I was glad to see you twice on your bike on Friday, right out of town and back into some.
10:10:26 Yup, weather's getting nicer. So time to start backing into work.
10:10:30 Nice I was. We were at a a Brennan town Hall last week, and a lot of questions came up about emergency management, and I was wondering if kind of to your your excellent presentation
last week about the Hubs if a hub had been identified in Brennan
10:10:48 and and which facility, that is, the fire station.
10:10:51 Yeah, not as of yet we haven't gotten far enough in the program to start identifying some of the locations.
10:10:59 We're still defining some of the the capabilities and capacities that go into those our specific meeting to start looking at potential locations and we'll actually at our tabletop
exercise on Wednesday of this week.
10:11:13 Be talking about potential hubs which are our emergency evacuation and gathering points, and then we'll have a meeting as part of our planning session. I'm here in a couple
of weeks to start looking as I talked about in my workplan briefing to the board we do have folks on
10:11:32 our planning committee, who are specifically looking at issues surrounding our more rural communities.
10:11:39 To make sure that their needs are being met with. The concept.
10:11:49 So we'll be looking specifically at specifically at Bren.
10:11:50 Great. Well, I do ask, is this as a develops that you bring updates back to this meeting as well?
10:11:57 You know our Kpt. To let folks know about those developing kind of new philosophy to a degree right about emergency planning, and some of our remote.
10:12:06 Yup, it's a pretty radical. It's a radical change in some respects, for in prep.
10:12:14 But we're also keeping everything that worked within our neighborhood preparedness programming and really expanding it and improving it on a lot of front. So really exciting.
10:12:29 And yeah, I'll be sure to bring updates to this meeting. And I know that Covid opened a lot of eyes. I know the bridge closure coming up is opening a lot of eyes, and the winter
storms have raised awareness levels as well, I know folks as we start to gather more and more in.
10:12:59 Great. Thank you so much, Willie.
10:13:00 All right. Well, any last questions for Dr. Barry or Willie.
10:13:07 Such an opportunity?
10:13:07 The I was gonna the only the only other question that I was considering was with all of these other transitions, moving into this next phase in the pandemic.
10:13:24 Okay.
10:13:20 What we wanna do as far as frequency of these meetings. But now, since we have a little time, we could talk about that, or we can take that offline and bring it back.
10:13:39 Yeah.
10:13:29 Oh, let's shine a light on it. What are what are your thoughts? We've gone down to one previously, and we had a lot of community response that there was still interest, and
you know, as we had another fatality last week.
10:13:46 Yeah.
10:13:46 So obviously, we are still dealing.
10:13:46 Do? I do think we are moving into a different phase and making changes around that face makes sense.
10:13:58 And so I do think it might be reasonable to scale back to once a month. At this point we are in a different place.
10:14:01 Than we were even 3 months ago, when we, I think, when we made that change last time, and we're moving into warmer months.
10:14:12 And so I am hopeful that we are going to keep moving in a in a better direction when it comes to COVID-19.
10:14:15 So I think it would be okay to move down to once a month.
10:14:16 Of course we can only scale up if things get more intense.
10:14:22 I'm always available, and I'm always your health officer, so we can always we. We can pull something together pretty sure, in a pretty short amount of time if we needed to.
10:14:30 But I think it's good to work on how we normalize our lives with Covid moving forward and going to monthly seems reasonable to me.
10:14:31 Might be good to time, that with our lifting of the emergency order, okay, well, that's that sounds reasonable.
10:14:51 Let's see, that's sweet.
10:14:52 That's happening in April, May. That's happening.
10:14:56 Okay.
10:14:54 Well, you haven't given us the update from your county coordination.
10:14:59 The state, emergency.
10:15:05 So the the mass mandate lists. April third. The Federal emergency lives.
10:15:08 May.
10:15:11 Schedule is mail, and Gotcha so doing with, I think, yeah, it's worth considering.
10:15:16 We'll let's let's kind of put a you know, in pencil.
10:15:17 Think about it.
10:15:23 It seems like going back to just the first Monday of the week, the first Monday of the month, as well.
10:15:26 And be easy to remember that way, too.
10:15:27 Let's yeah. We'll plan for that in April.
10:15:31 We'll talk to Commissioner Dean when she rejoins us or joins us today, and just make sure no issues.
10:15:38 We're not considering, but that seems like a reasonable adjustment.
10:15:43 Well, thank you. Everyone.
10:15:43 Okay, I know. I always have questions, I but I can't think of it now.
10:15:50 So I just yeah missed opportunities. Alright.
10:15:53 We'll let you guys get back to your day, Dr. Barry. Willie, thank you so much for your considered attention, and we'll.
10:16:00 Have a good day.
10:16:02 And your bike out there, Willie, you got a start bike into work again.
10:16:04 Okay.
10:16:09 Okay, well, let's see, we have a 1030 meeting for quarterly update from Dnr.
10:16:21 And that is, it's<unk> for the scheduled items, for this morning how far We've gotten mark you already did your calendar for This week, fully caught up here, yes, okay see I
don't think, we have Hey, with Us Yeah participants well, do you
10:30:02 Nice to see you in person.
10:30:07 Alright! Welcome back! I'll call this meeting of the Board of County Commissioners back into session, and we will hopefully we have our.
10:30:18 Here's from we have Kmount rates. Oh, we are on break, Kate.
10:30:26 We're just coming back. Hello, Mona! Hello! Drew!
10:30:28 Hello!
10:30:29 Thank you. Thanks for paying. Okay.
10:30:31 And I've got. I've got David Hearn and Brian Turner with me.
10:30:39 Hey? Good to have you guys, and we'll thanks for coming for our quarterly update.
10:30:44 We'll without further ado, turn it right over to you.
10:30:48 Thanks for the report.
10:30:50 Thank you. We're here for to do our quarterly update, for let you know how much income you have, and also we're going to do part 2 of a four-part series.
10:31:02 About State Lands management, so I'll hand it over to Drew.
10:31:09 Okay. So we'll actually cover this meeting's about 22.
10:31:16 So how we finished 22. But I also have a projection for how we're doing in 23.
10:31:23 So we ended fiscal or calendar, 22 at 1,393,000.
10:31:34 With another 5.2 million remaining under contract for calendar.
10:31:44 23. Any questions on 22.
10:31:55 Nope!
10:31:57 Okay, so let's jump into projections for 23.
10:32:02 So given!
10:32:04 For the public. Can can you share the report, or should I?
10:32:11 I can share the report to, so we can walk through. And just so people can get the most out of your presentation.
10:32:15 Twenty- for 23.
10:32:18 Yes.
10:32:19 Let me try!
10:32:22 I'm happy to do it, too. If it's the report that you included is what you're working off of.
10:32:26 The green one in the middle. Oh, share screen!
10:32:33 If I can find it.
10:32:47 Okay? Are you? Seeing that?
10:32:49 Yeah, looks. Good. Thank you.
10:32:51 Okay, so this is my projections for 23 and first quarter.
10:32:58 There's given. That we're almost done first quarter.
10:33:02 So far you've received 953,765 and wire transfers, and that's probably, I think I might have gotten one more payment on Center 21 last week.
10:33:17 But that should pretty much cap first, quarter, second quarter.
10:33:25 Looking at about, and just a rough guess of 328,000.
10:33:32 Taylor I think Taylor Downhill is done, and it's paid off.
10:33:37 There might be one more small payment coming in on that one, and the initial deposit for Bolton Rehab should be in anytime.
10:33:47 It's going through audit right now. Beaver Valley hasn't turned a wheel, and Pennywise, my guess is it's gonna finish this year.
10:33:58 Back of our is usually pretty fast. So, barring no, no big changes, for you know, in the economy or the log market, it should finish, and then that just leaves the initial deposit
for 23 or into 24.
10:34:19 And then one last sale, or only sale, for in calendar 23 will be lost.
10:34:26 Croquet sorts. I got it pegged, or just a rough guess at just over 2 million.
10:34:35 So if everything goes well under 24 accounts, 24, you should have about 3.7 million dollars under contract.
10:34:53 See, there's schedule for 24. How is that timber sale layout change since what we saw before?
10:35:02 Has it?
10:35:03 It hasn't changed. No, we did when we sold it.
10:35:08 We had. You know that we removed the first. That unit out.
10:35:13 I can't remember where it is. So that one's out.
10:35:18 The other 3 units are there, and nothing's changed.
10:35:20 Okay, okay, that's what I wanted to know. Thanks.
10:35:26 Thanks, like strong revenue this year. That's good.
10:35:30 This is.
10:35:29 Yeah, so far, the market's hanging in there.
10:35:34 We're doing well. So I'm hoping that continues for at least a few more months.
10:35:42 We've got.
10:35:40 Okay, we have Jeff Chapman with us. Oh, did you have a question, Jeff?
10:35:46 Yeah, yeah, I just wanted to say that we're changing the tax codes around it for probably be 2, 13 and already made the change.
10:35:55 2, 31 goes away because the 3 is good for port.
10:36:01 Level Fire District Fire district 3, and it's now our Eastern rescue.
10:36:08 Okay, so does that change the tax district boundaries?
10:36:12 Or is this just something you'll take care of when we, after we turn the sale in?
10:36:18 I can send it to you. If it does change the boundaries in a sense that the fire districts going away that becomes part of a different.
10:36:29 Okay.
10:36:27 It's merged into a different fire district, and I know our our Dis team is working on those district boundaries as we speak.
10:36:35 Okay, good. So I, either myself or David, will reach out then and get the new shape file from them, so we can be up to date, and we'll you know we'll continue to check in with
the assessors office to make sure that we're accurate.
10:36:52 So they can. If we're off they'll tune us up.
10:36:57 But the good news about that is, poor Leather was merged in the East.
10:37:15 Okay.
10:37:01 Jefferson. So if that, let the boundary as it was with add just added to each Jefferson, it won't be that hard to figure out, and it'll be pretty simple.
10:37:19 Okay, perfect.
10:37:24 And.
10:37:24 And sorry, Drew, I cut you off as you were going into the next point.
10:37:28 I think. Please continue.
10:37:32 I don't remember what it was now.
10:37:34 So that's that's always the risk of interruptions, I guess.
10:37:40 Great any any other questions on projections for 23 revenues from 22.
10:37:49 Okay, should we go into timber management school?
10:37:57 Alright, so I help!
10:38:03 There we go, so I will turn it over to Brian Turner.
10:38:10 Great thanks!
10:38:10 Morning, everyone. So I'm that straight manager for the Dnr.
10:38:15 I manage about 98,000 acres. I go from Deep Creek Lake Crescent over to Hood Canal Bridge, up to Port Townsend, and down to the Mason County line.
10:38:25 So those are the areas that myself and my foresters and engineers that we manage that.
10:38:31 So David Hearn gave a presentation on the last Board meeting, I believe, about sustainable harvest, and how all the numbers for each planning or come up, come up with, and then
those numbers are given out to the managers in the area, and then we come up with the areas
10:38:52 to harvest, and and then we start the planning process for that.
10:38:57 So today I'm gonna be talking about the timber sales layout.
10:39:00 So so the once we get those numbers, we have a screening tools on our computers that that go through all this.
10:39:15 So we create a polygon and area that's available for harvest.
10:39:18 So when I say available for harvest, that means that it's not some sort of a habitat already.
10:39:24 So it's not marble mere. Let habitat.
10:39:25 It's not spot at all. Habitat. It's not in.
10:39:29 In a special plan community or Taylor checker butterfly habitats.
10:39:33 So on the screen. There, you'll see that under policy layers those are all the policies that we that we have, that we protect for endangered species.
10:39:44 And then each one of those policies has a procedure that we implement when we're laying out a timber sale.
10:39:50 So once we yeah, go ahead.
10:39:56 No go ahead!
10:39:50 And I can hold questions till the end if you want. I I don't know what your preferences there's I don't know what the word greet means, so that can can you describe that as
it go through this?
10:40:02 I'll get to that one. So once we create a polygon in an area that's manageable, then we use our screening tools on our on our Gis systems to see if there's any other things
that may affect those areas.
10:40:17 So one of our screening tools is called the wooggi.
10:40:23 It's an old growth assessment predictor from our inventory, and if we get a star, that's a certain color in an area of a stand that we're gonna manage.
10:40:32 Then we go out and look for old growth. This is all done from the office.
10:40:36 None of this is field time at this point. So when, when, when when we make these polygons, we've already taken out what what's been set aside for mirelets, owls, and all the
other things, when we get to streams, and
10:40:49 wetlands. There are predictors of where they're at out there, but that actually takes more feel recon to actually delineate those areas.
10:40:59 Still.
10:40:58 Bryan can. Can you also say what you define as special plan communities are those heritage program?
10:41:07 What element occurrences. Okay.
10:41:06 Yes, still doing. Those are either nationally or state recognized special plan communities.
10:41:15 And so we have a few of those in both sides of the district in East Jefferson we have.
10:41:20 The Douglas for a Western hemlock.
10:41:22 Rhododendrons evergreen huckleberry, and then we have some grass ones around our balls and butterfly habitat to the west, and then we have a Western hemlock sword Fern Douglas
for also on the West end.
10:41:38 Okay. Thanks.
10:41:42 So once we once we try this polygon, and we go through.
10:41:47 So these are all things that are above and beyond force. Practice, rules and requirements.
10:41:53 These are part of the Hcp. Which is our habitat conservation plan, and I'm gonna just talk a little bit about the How Tech Conservation plan.
10:42:02 So endangered Species act went into effect. Nationally. They they started a listing species in the eighties and nineties spotted all was one marvel that was one.
10:42:13 So for predictability and ability to manage our lands.
10:42:19 The agency works with the Feds to come up with a habitat conservation plan, and that, habitat conservation plan set aside.
10:42:28 Stands and and areas for endangered species.
10:42:33 So those when those areas were set aside, they they were developed with fish and wildlife state fishing.
10:42:41 A lot of life. The Dnr biologist, and they pick the best areas to set aside for the endangered species.
10:42:48 So you'll see Cliff's balls and caves on there, so we don't have a lot of those.
10:42:54 But we have a few of those, and those are for minors.
10:42:58 More minor species, like paragon, falcon bats, and things like that.
10:43:04 So we also have the fisher which was reintroduced.
10:43:08 We had a nest around. Swim are not a as well as a nest.
10:43:14 It was it it? It was a nesting site for the fishers in the Cassity area.
10:43:17 Fishers are very. They move around a lot. They were there for a year, had 2 to be little cubs, and then they moved on.
10:43:26 One of them died, one of them, the mother, was killed, and so the other one was taken to the northwest track to be raised, so that they are no longer in our area that we know
of, but we look for them in any case, so what Greenup is is greenup is a rule that
10:43:47 says that we will not have harvest that are over a 100 acres in size, and that's there are different parameters for that.
10:43:55 But basically, it's that we won't have units over 100 acres size without some sort of a age or an age break.
10:44:05 So those can be broken up by arm's or by stands that are older than 5 years old.
10:44:12 But they're what they're looking for is not having harvest over a 100 acres that are greater than in in one area.
10:44:23 So!
10:44:23 Bryan. Here's a question, Rupert.
10:44:25 Go ahead!
10:44:28 Thanks. Yeah, I'm just wondering. Is that a new policy?
10:44:31 That's not one I'm familiar with, either.
10:44:35 Huh? Okay, thank you.
10:44:32 No, that one's been wrong for quite some time. That one.
10:44:43 So. Are there any other questions on this screen?
10:44:51 After me. I guess I have one thing ancillary question, and that's just like I know that when we were taking our Dnr tour together this past summer, one of the locations had
a Taylor's checkers spot butterfly.
10:45:07 I believe it was a location, and it was leased out as a like a sell tower location, and I'm wondering when there are in conferences like this.
10:45:16 Do you guys proactively look for other leasehold options?
10:45:21 Or is it kind of just from your perspective? Do not touch for timber sales.
10:45:27 So unfortunately, the best sites for sell sites are at the top of mountains where there are no trees, and where there's lots of rock and things like that, and balls not really
great, for not really great for growing trees, but they're at the top of the hill so they get the best service so the butterflies
10:45:47 also use those areas because there's not as many trees in their spring of femeral type so they like the spring flowers that they basically come out of out of the ground and
turn into butterflies in about late April through May and into June and then they go
10:46:08 back. They lay their eggs, and they pup paid, and they go back either in the ground or on plants.
10:46:15 So they're the one endangered species that I manage.
10:46:19 Hmm!
10:46:18 That doesn't leave the site. So Mirrolet's go to the water.
10:46:22 Also can move around a little bit, but the butterflies are basically their 365 days a year.
10:46:28 So we? When our cell sites were in place before the habitat conservation plan was signed so they were kind of grandfathered in, and then a 25 foot radius around the outside
of those we're allowed for them to keep keep things from you know, from
10:46:50 trees and things from growing. So so there's a fence around our cell sites and everything within that fence is not part of the habitat conservation plan, or they're not being.
10:46:59 It's not being managed for butterfly habitat.
10:47:02 So when they want to expand one of those sites, and it is in the butterfly habitat we have to have consultations, fish and wildlife, state fish and wildlife, and then we come
up with a plan usually usually if they increase the size, it's less than an acre.
10:47:22 It's a fraction of an acre, but we do have other kind of restrictions on there that they, you know they they can't they can't be driving on the shoulders of the road.
10:47:35 They have to stay in the center of the road, and just precautions for them running over the larvae.
10:47:41 Gotcha. Thank you for that.
10:47:46 Okay. So once we do, once we do the all the habits stuff we have to look at the legal end of things.
10:47:56 So we have to see if the property lines are in and what the who the elace, adjacent landowners are, and if the property lines are not in, then we schedule our surveyors to go
out and survey and mark the property lines then we have to determine whether we have legal access, or
10:48:11 not so. There may be roads to our sales, but we may not have easements on them, or there may not be roads, and we need to build a new road across somebody else to get to them,
so we start negotiations with landowners as far as getting access to our properties and
10:48:27 those can be large land owners or small private landlords, and then much of our lands along county roads our department of transportation highways. So, and there's not a road
there. Then we have to get a road approach perhaps and work with them on making it a safe transition onto the
10:48:47 freeways. Unfortunately, in this district there's a lot of there's a lot of trespasses, and they're associated with residents.
10:48:56 We have numerous kind of trespasses.
10:49:01 We have yards on us. We have a batting cage on us.
10:49:03 Well, septic systems, structures and unauthorized trails, and then some of the other things we have is like they will clear something.
10:49:16 Would be in our property to.
10:49:20 Increase, or keep a view of a beautiful landscape somewhere.
10:49:25 So and those are some of the trespassed issues we have, and then we send letters to the adjacent landowners.
10:49:33 Letting them know that we're gonna be managing the land.
10:49:36 So we send them a letter, give them a contact number, and then if they want a personal contact and we'll make a personal contact with them.
10:49:49 So once we get all that taken care of, then we actually start heading for the field so the geologists will have reviewed the proposal, and they have different predict predictors.
10:50:02 And Lidar. That shows them where unstable slopes are, so they'll give us a map of what they believe is unstable, or areas that we need to protect from our.
10:50:10 So we we'll look at that, and if there's additional concerns, and we will actually get the geologists out there to help us designate the areas to harvest on the ground.
10:50:25 The policy layer is, we'll load the polygons for mere.
10:50:32 Let habitat or other habitats into the to a GPS, and then mark the boundaries based off the layers that's protected.
10:50:40 Field observations. This is one of. There's a lot of additional things set aside that the screening layers don't pick up.
10:50:50 So there are a lot of smaller streams out there, smaller wetlands.
10:50:54 There are different wildlife uses, such as bald eagles, mass.
10:50:59 Harris nest things like that.
10:51:03 So when we're in the field we will be looking for those, and you know, with their they're also they're also documented in, or they're in the Gis layers like historic eels, and
that'll be in there.
10:51:16 So we'll look for those and see if there's they're still there, or if they're in new ones, then we'll be looking at the stand and we'll be looking at the size, the age stand
characteristics.
10:51:28 If there's any router disease out there and then from that we will develop a prescription from from the from the field data collected.
10:51:37 So our prescriptions basically are broken down into 2.
10:51:41 So we have a variable retention. Harvest, which is a final harvest.
10:51:45 We harvest the trees, leaving a Trees breaker versus complying with our leave.
10:51:52 Free policy, and then there are thinnings, and then our third one is a salvage.
10:51:57 So we've just recently had a salvage that was.
10:52:01 There was a burn up in the blint area that we sell with some burnt timber, and but most of our salvage is in the root rod area.
10:52:09 So if we have root rot, we we will harvest the stand and then plant a species that is resistant to that rod.
10:52:16 So an example of that would be Lindsay Hill.
10:52:19 We had a stand there that we sailed, and the root rod just started to kill the standoff.
10:52:27 So we cut that down. And now we're going to plant species that are more resistant to the rod.
10:52:35 So when we.
10:52:35 Hold on Wednesday and Brian a couple of questions.
10:52:39 Go ahead!
10:52:39 Go ahead! Maybe you're gonna go over this later, but it seems like in that stand assessment would be where this might come into play.
10:52:47 When do you guys decide how you're going to apply the older forest policy that's in the management plan.
10:52:58 So with the all the forest policy talks about having 10 to 50% of the landscape in an older forest.
10:53:08 By the end of the Hcp. And with our with our set of sites, and with the.
10:53:15 Buffers and things that we put on. So so we have the mere Lett habitat.
10:53:21 We have set asides for the owls we have set asides for other things, but then, with the unstable slopes repairing wetlands and things like that, that number is going to be higher
than 10 to 15% by the end of the 18 so we don't really look
10:53:36 at older forests as much as we look at old growth.
10:53:40 So we are out when we are laying our stands out.
10:53:44 So these are these are the We're designated as manageable.
10:53:47 Okay.
10:53:47 So when we go out of when we go out and look at these stands, the next thing that we're looking for, as far as older stands is.
10:53:55 And so we have an overall policy. And when we're doing our field observations, if we see those characteristics, then we will bring a old girl specialist in, and if if it qualifies
for old roles and we'll we will tag it out of the sale.
10:53:56 And my question, Brian, is just. If you can add a little bit of I guess timeframe context as you go through this, you know how how far before a harvest is.
10:54:22 You know the initial field work, the initial field recon or a data tool office work and field recon, and how, you know, are you looking when you're going through this process?
10:54:30 What's the timeframe that you're expecting harvest on that?
10:54:33 On a particular perfect.
10:54:35 So we develop a 5 Year Action Plan and that's a very cursory high-level view of it. So we take our sample harvest summers develop a high Five-year Action Plan as we come to
that year, we start to screen down the things that come to the units that are
10:54:54 in that sale, and then once we're into the physical year that it's gonna sell and we're gonna start laying it out.
10:55:06 That's when the activity really starts. So it's basically from the for for for the physical year, it's anywhere from 6 to 12 months of field layout before it goes to auction.
10:55:18 And then once it goes to auction, then they have a timeframe of when they can harvest it, and we generally go from 18 months to 3 years, depending on the complexity of the same.
10:55:29 And where are we in the process of the developing, the next sustainable harvest? Calculation?
10:55:36 I know the Board has been talking about that.
10:55:41 Okay.
10:55:40 So it's being worked on. There's a team doing it.
10:55:45 They're focused right now on the East Side plan, and but the West Side plan is part of that, too.
10:55:56 So it's all I can say is being worked on.
10:56:00 Yes.
10:55:58 People are looking at it right now it's a pretty long process.
10:56:04 It's really complex. So it's it's a long process.
10:56:08 Thanks, thanks.
10:56:11 Hey? So now, once we've kind of come up with a well, it's kind of worse in concert with each other, but we have.
10:56:22 We plan a road for it, so we talked about having access across other land orders and things like that.
10:56:30 We look at our potential hall routes, and then we determine what we try to.
10:56:34 We establish new roads in the most environmentally safe ways as possible.
10:56:41 So we'll look at the current roads and look at their condition and what kind of improvements we need to make.
10:56:47 So we don't have an impact to water quality. So our maps is road maintenance.
10:56:52 Abandonment plans. So that's something that came around about 2,000.
10:56:57 And it's was we it was. It was a law that was passed through force practices so hidden made the large land owners repair, and small land owners, but they can qualify for money,
but large land owners needed to repair all their fish passage barriers
10:57:13 so, if if a fish cannot get through a culvert, then you need to repair it.
10:57:18 So we had hold on 1Â s.
10:57:23 He had?
10:57:29 About 70. We have about 74 fish passage pipes, I believe, about 40 of those were fish barriers at the time, but there's all been corrected.
10:57:37 So we had till 2016. Some landowners weren't weren't able to get it completed by then, and I think they gave us to like 20 or 2021 to get them completed, but all our fish barrier
passages have been fit so rms doesn't end there for state
10:57:54 lands we have all our callers inventory, and so we we look at the culverts in the system that have been identified to replace, and if they're on the halt we'll put them in this
timber sale.
10:58:08 My engineers also walk all the roads and look at the existing drainage and culverts, and if there are, improvement needed, then we'll take those measures.
10:58:18 Like, I said we we do bridge inspections annually, so our bridges need to be safe, and they need to not be delivering.
10:58:26 So we have some really, that are concrete, that have a half inch to one inch cracks where the 2 concrete or the concrete blocks come together.
10:58:34 We need this spray expand a foam in them, and periodically to keep the Sultan things from dripping through to the acquiring access needs is always an interesting one.
10:58:47 And we actually just completed. If you watched the last Board meeting, we did a land extchange and the primary purpose of that land exchange was to gain access to some B in
our land that we did not have access to rock sources.
10:59:02 Rock source is very important. So you wanna have a high quality rock one that doesn't break down and turn into much or so.
10:59:09 And then we look at winter of all issues and winter hall issues, has all to do with delivery to fish streams or to other water bottles.
10:59:19 So we design a road plan. My engineers design a road plan that has the specifications to avoid any kind of delivery, and then we usually have timing restrictions in that.
10:59:32 And so the timing restrictions generally run from November first to April first, which is the wetest part of the season, and if an operator wants to work in that time period,
they have to give us a winter hall plan and that's all on them, they think they need to put more rock on or if they need to put
10:59:50 cleaner. They submit that in the plan, and say they'll do that, and then we make sure that happens, and then they also agree that they will shut down on what weather days or
days of damage to the road or water resource.
11:00:08 Any questions on that one.
11:00:11 Oh, it's great!
11:00:13 Hi! So we're talking about the reviewing of the timber sales.
11:00:20 So I have coordinators who are forers, who do the field work.
11:00:24 We also have a Marriott of different specialists that help us in our sale, design and layout so we have the region biologist which helps us with many questions.
11:00:37 Wetlands stream typing the nesting sites for some of the other things, like the herringookeries or a bald.
11:00:49 She helps us with old growth designation. So she's got a she wears a lot of hats, and she's a professional biologist.
11:00:59 We have licensed geologists, they need to be licensed to work for us.
11:01:04 So that means they have a degree in geology, and they generally have experience in geology.
11:01:08 So we have, Eric, do we? We have a geologist that are designated for our area.
11:01:16 And then, if there are special concerns, there's a geologist above that person that will.
11:01:21 We have a state archaeologist. So that was one of the things I missed in the screening.
11:01:26 So we also screen for archaeological things. So archeological things are basically for European type things, anything that's 50 years or older.
11:01:37 So old logging camps. We found it some steam dock he's in the woods, and things like that.
11:01:46 And then on the tribal side of things, there are for the biggest, the biggest thing that affects our timber sales here are culturally modified choice and that's where they strip
the trees and use them for baskets and ring gear and things like that.
11:02:00 So we we have an archaeologist.
11:02:04 I also have 2 archaeological technicians that have been trained by the archaeologists, so we send them out into the timber sales looking for any type of archaeological evidence
out there.
11:02:16 And so, interestingly enough, one of ours was the Swim City Dump, because the swim city dump has been around for so quite some time.
11:02:24 And it was at the end of River Road, and they just kind of basically backed up to the bank and dumped it off.
11:02:30 But it was older than 50. There was some stuff in there that was of our archaeological significance.
11:02:37 So we actually ended up putting a leaf tree clump around that don't we have a right way specialist?
11:02:44 So right away, specialists helps us with the access and also the the property, like the property lines and things like that.
11:02:53 We do this, not just by ourselves. We have many contributors, and the players that insist with us.
11:03:03 So we we find culturally modified trees, we will involve the trust, and they they will tell us what they would like done.
11:03:11 Either mark him as leave trees, or leave him in the clump.
11:03:15 Things like that. Wdfw. They assist us with things like the Taylor checker spot.
11:03:21 They stream, typing things like that us fish and wildlife.
11:03:27 They get involved that we're talking about at my level now.
11:03:30 So us fish and wildlife. They get involved with me mostly with the butter.
11:03:36 A little bit with mere lett like if we want to do something in merelet habitat, we'll have to get their approval at this point.
11:03:42 We have not done anything in mere. Let habitat that's needed approval from us.
11:03:48 Fish and wildlife out of my district. Washington, State Department of Transportation.
11:03:54 That's mainly dealing with access rot approaches, but it also there are strips along the highway that there's a question mark whether Dot owns the timber or we own the timber,
so we'll meet with them and work that out.
11:04:08 And then department of ecology is one of the Tfw.
11:04:10 Players, and their primary concern is water, quality and delivery.
11:04:19 So regional regional experts. We have the old Growth designee.
11:04:24 We also have, we have. So we have are regional biologists and the old Growth designee. And we also have 2 in the district.
11:04:32 Now that we've had trained up, and then we have a person out of Olympia who is the head old growth person.
11:04:38 So if we have any questions or concerns, we will get them involved.
11:04:41 Is is that the one in natural heritage is heritage. Psychologist.
11:04:46 It's it's standard auto.
11:04:47 The person. Okay, yeah, thanks.
11:04:53 Okay. So we also have a region experts and also district experts on wetlands and repairing zone, so that those areas are looked at and determine whether they're wetland or not.
11:05:07 So a difference between a webinar on land versus a wetland on private land is it's a forested well, land the private, the private landowners can harvest it on State land. If
it's of a certain size, then we put a buffer around it.
11:05:24 And then already talked about cold resources. So are there any questions on that?
11:05:29 No sounds good. Thank you.
11:05:32 Alright! So our lead is so so when we do a barrier with retention, harvest, it's not a true clear cut in the sense that we cut everything down.
11:05:43 So we have a leave tree policy, and we leave a minimum of 8 trees per acre.
11:05:47 2 of those are from the largest diameters.
11:05:51 So that's a per acre thing. But it doesn't mean that every acre has to have h trees on it.
11:05:57 So if we have an area that has large trees are structurally significant trees or snags, or things like that, we, we can adjust the adjust, the boundaries, or mark those as our
leaf trees.
11:06:11 So the caveat of that is, there cannot, there cannot be a 400 foot distance between lea trees, so there has to be a leaf tree at least every 400 feet, so those leave trees for
Acre.
11:06:23 2 of them are from the largest diameter cloud.
11:06:25 The rest of them are basically representative of the stand. So representative stand for our area usually means the larger diameter trees unless it's in a leaf tree clump, which
we count all trees under 10 inches in greater.
11:06:41 So our are generally designed to protect something besides the trees so if there's a stream that's a type 5 that we could harvest right up to it.
11:06:52 Sometimes we'll clump our leaves if there's a bald or a cliff we we have distances around that that we have to leave a buffer, but we'll also maybe add the other areas is if
we have a snag.
11:07:06 So L. And I rules that says that you have to.
11:07:10 You have to leave a tree and a half length, so if the tags 200 feet tall, you have to go 300 feet away before you can safely work.
11:07:19 So if we have some very nice snags out there, we'll leave a leak tree clump around, those so we can meet the safety distance.
11:07:26 So the snag recruitment. So it like, I said, we try to leave any really significant stags, but we we leave more trees out there so they can become snags in the future.
11:07:43 And we tag the boundaries. So there are you'll see several different types of tags out there.
11:07:48 You'll see Kimber sale boundary tags timbers, self boundary tags are the tags that go around the entire proposal.
11:07:54 Then there'll be special management tags, so those can either be around a leaf tree clone or they can be around a wetland that we're going to thin.
11:08:05 So we are allowed to thin repairing zones and wetlands, and so the reason for the special management tags is because the prescription for that area is different from the other
harvest, and then you'll see right away tags.
11:08:17 Those are generally along the roads where we're gonna be cutting right away.
11:08:24 Landing location. Go ahead!
11:08:25 Can I ask a question? Alright about the leaf tree selection?
11:08:29 I'm wondering, do you guys have? I guess? Species preferences or thresholds?
11:08:35 If there's a mixed mixed species on on a stand.
11:08:38 Well, how do you? I mean other than the largest 2, you know, break.
11:08:43 Or how do you change which species are preserved?
11:08:46 Where is that? Does that come up?
11:08:46 So if if everything's equal, and there's not any like large dormant trees, then we try to pick species that have a good root, tap, root.
11:08:56 So Douglas for has a good tap root.
11:08:57 Western hemlock does not have a good root system, so we try to pick things that will not blow over so sort of unique.
11:09:08 It doesn't have a great root system, but it does handle the wind fairly well.
11:09:11 So our priorities for marketing are usually Douglas for Western red Cater, and the reason for the Western Red cedars cause.
11:09:20 Usually it has some sort of other characteristic. It's either a hollow or it has.
11:09:27 It has defect, and then we will mark Truefer, which is either grand for or silver, for which we don't have very much silver, for it.
11:09:37 Also mostly Granford, and then other minor species like maybe with Drone or through like that, aren't really on the landscape.
11:09:46 We pretty much stay away from Cottonwood and Maple, because they are when they get big they take a lot of area up and they will take the area out of productive being able to
grow seedlings.
11:10:03 So so basically, it's a Douglas for Red Cedar.
11:10:09 Thank you.
11:10:06 True for, and then any minor species. Oh, you will see some hemlock mark out there, because some of them hemlock, have good wildlife characteristics.
11:10:18 Great.
11:10:21 So landing locations. That's the areas that the logs are gonna be brought into where they could be loaded on trucks.
11:10:28 So those those are delineated by the engineers and foresters to facilitate the logging.
11:10:34 And then yarding corridors and a cable logging.
11:10:38 So yarding can also mean ground base, but it's mostly cable logging.
11:10:42 So like, if we have a unit that's on the other side, and it's cheaper and more environmentally friendly to cable it across the stream, we will cable it across the stream, and
most cases that'll be full suspension over the stream, and probably half the situation is full suspension over
11:11:03 the repairing zone itself. So those quarters they are!
11:11:10 They're not part of the harvest. They're just for the harvest.
11:11:16 And I talked about with bearing zones and wetlands.
11:11:21 Any questions on that slide.
11:11:23 No thanks!
11:11:25 Yup. So now I'm gonna give you an example of a timber sell that we worked on from the office, from the office to what actually was finally harvest.
11:11:36 So I'm sure a few of you may be familiar with a penny wise timber, stale.
11:11:42 We started out with.
11:11:42 What makes you think that?
11:11:44 Well, you're getting the money from it. So so, Penny Wise, you know.
11:11:50 1, 2, and 3. These are all off and Penny-kick. There!
11:11:55 The proposed, the the harvest was ninety-.
11:11:57 The origin was 1924. So this area had been logged and was logged with railroad logging.
11:12:07 Back in the early 19 hundreds. So I don't know if you've heard this talk or not.
11:12:11 But most of my district was logged between 8, the 18 eighties in the 19 forties, and they started at the ports, and they worked their way in.
11:12:20 And if you look at the war photos from World War 2, you can see that they didn't leave much behind in those areas.
11:12:27 So they started at Port Townsend. Discovery Base, Win Bay, Port Angeles, and then they work their way up into the hills, and then what they didn't get to what they didn't get
to by the thirties was turned into either force or National Park, and those are the more of the in opera
11:12:46 layer inoperable areas. So this area was railroad logged.
11:12:51 It was railroad logged in the twenties.
11:12:55 Okay.
11:12:55 The species out there Douglas for Western hemlock, and there was also cedar in.
11:13:02 That was about 34,000 Mbf.
11:13:05 Per acre, and it was mainly a ground base, with a little bit of cable.
11:13:13 So the final layout. We went from 93.
11:13:19 I believe it was to 43 acres, so we set aside 50, acres for different environmental things.
11:13:27 There was one for that well associated with uniform 3 and a half acre protection, and a 160 foot sight buffer.
11:13:35 So I was telling you about the sizes of the wetland depending on the protection they get.
11:13:40 So if you have a wetland, that's greater than an acre, then they put a site index buffer on, and then the site index buffer is what that?
11:13:48 How big a tree will grow in a 100 years. There!
11:13:52 So a 160 foot is what the site index for that area is.
11:13:55 There were the penny Crick runs through there.
11:13:58 There was 39 acres over pairing habitat, and then 3 acres of lee tree.
11:14:03 Hey, Brian, on that, can can you? I guess maybe it's speculate.
11:14:08 But if this was just a private property that had been logged, do you know what the Fpa.
11:14:14 Would have required for the right period management zone for a private logging effort.
11:14:18 Oh, boy, that's that's a little bit out of my realm.
11:14:22 But I can tell you that the Wetlands probably would have been logged.
11:14:25 The buffer would not have been a 160.
11:14:27 It would have been probably more in the 100 to 1 20, and.
11:14:35 They let me see what type of strings we have out there.
11:14:41 So the the fish streams would have received the most protection.
11:14:45 The Non Fish stream. So the fours and 5 they would have had much less protection along those repairing involved.
11:14:55 Great. Thank you. And Kate has a another question.
11:14:59 So all the laterals there are. Type 4 is the main penny crick that would have received a repairing buffer on private, which would have probably been in that 120 foot distance.
11:15:09 The type 4 is, they probably would have had to protect the interior core, which is the unstable slow portions.
11:15:15 Gotcha. Okay, that gives me an idea. Thank you.
11:15:18 Yeah, if we could go back to that last slide, please. So just wanna be sure.
11:15:26 So out of well, can you explain what treated me?
11:15:31 Harvested.
11:15:32 Okay, great. And the total of these 4 units together was how much?
11:15:39 43. So we started out with 9. We started up.
11:15:49 Gotcha!
11:15:44 We started out with 93, and we we the final. The manageable acres that we harvested was 43.
11:15:51 Okay. Great. Thank you.
11:15:55 So it's units 5 and 7, 94 acres were planned.
11:16:00 The origins were 27 and 44.
11:16:04 The primary species of those for Western hemlock and red cedar.
11:16:09 Again, higher per acre volume of 38,000 per acre.
11:16:16 And it's a 100% ground based logging.
11:16:17 Hey? So we started with 94. We treated 68.
11:16:22 We set aside 660, okay, alright.
11:16:29 So one well, in totaling 25 acres.
11:16:33 So protected with a 180 foot sight in X buffer. So that's that sight index buffer again, building an additional 4 acres the repairing managed zone was 19 acres on the sale one
acre was protected for unstable
11:16:51 slopes, and then an old, so we so I was telling you how if we, if we run the Logie Predictor from our inventory, it'll it'll have a little star something that says this is old
growth. Possibly from our inventory.
11:17:06 So we had one of those, adjacent to the unit wasn't actually in the unit.
11:17:11 What it wasn't, Jason. So the foresters and the old gros they designees went out, and and when I say designees it was more went out and did an assessment of whether this was
an old growth stand or not.
11:17:24 So not an old forest stand, but an old growth stand. So they determined that 13 acres of the sale was old growth, and that area was taken out in Delinea is old growth.
11:17:36 In their first there were 4 acres of leaf trees, and those were mainly the dominant trees out there.
11:17:50 So for the, for the penny, wise timber sale.
11:17:56 Basically, the summation is we started with 271 acres.
11:17:59 We ended up treating a 100 thirty- acres, we set aside a 134 acres, so the total set aside was almost half the sale, which was 4.
11:18:11 The sale volume was 5.1 million. We received a bit of 3.9 million dollars for that.
11:18:21 Oh, I'm sorry. The delivered value is 3.9 million.
11:18:27 We sold it for 2.8 million, and that's 550 a 1,000, which is a really really good price for timber Sierra Pacific was the successful bidder.
11:18:37 The logging costs were $680,000.
11:18:43 Road construction was $554,000, and then checking off was 430,000.
11:18:48 So if you look at the 3.9 million and the 2.8, you're basically subtracting those 3 costs below the logging costs of costs and the whole cost.
11:18:57 This was mainly a Jefferson County Land sale.
11:19:03 So the money is going to Jefferson County for you to decide, and then a little bit of one to the common schools.
11:19:10 So in general for my district, so I have 98,000 acres, and about 40% of that is set aside for set aside for environmental issues.
11:19:27 And that number grows every time we put a timber sale up.
11:19:30 So when we do the delineation of different things out there, that number keeps increasing.
11:19:36 But right now we're this one here average 49%.
11:19:40 But in general we're setting aside about 40 40% of the landing.
11:19:59 I mean, you it was so. There was a sale right?
11:20:02 Was that delivered value incorporated into the sale price at all.
11:20:07 Or was it just sold at the sale price?
11:20:10 And those other costs were answering, how does because of those that logging road construction and hall trucking costs factor into the sale at that actually happens.
11:20:19 Okay, so those the logging in the are what we estimate.
11:20:24 It'll cost. So the purchasers can, you know?
11:20:27 Find ways to maybe maybe not have that that you know they have a road builder that they use all the time that charges them a little bit less, or something like that.
11:20:35 But those are the those are the statewide numbers that we use to estimate how much is going to cost to get that wood from the site to the.
11:20:46 Did I answer your question?
11:20:50 Okay.
11:21:05 So we get, we give them a so in the example is the road plan.
11:20:48 You did partially, but I guess when they so when Sierra Pacific bid for penny wise, we're were they working with those pre set estimate estimates about logging cost where construction
and hall trucking costs already?
11:21:12 We give them an example? Are we? Give them a cost estimate that we've determined for the road plan, and then they will review the road plan, give it to their road builders,
and then there's times when the road builder just said, No, that's way.
11:21:26 Too cheap. I need to. I need to, you know, have more money to build this road, and then there's times when they could say, Oh, if I do it, a certain time of year I can do it
cheaper or use a different rock source. I can do it cheaper.
11:21:37 So we give them an estimate, and they do get a copy over the estimate, but they come up with.
11:21:44 They determine what financially works for them. Hey! This is it.
11:21:46 Are you estimated the whole cost was almost 4 million.
11:21:51 They. They eat the logging road construction, trucking costs, and they bid 2, 8 for the lump sum.
11:21:58 Let me! This is David. Let me step it just define delivered value, so delivered value is what you would look at as a tree right?
11:22:10 The standing on the stump or the price at the mill pays when the thes are delivered to the middle, and that's an estimated value.
11:22:19 So the logging and all the costs. Logging costs, road construction costs are in the hauling costs are estimated values by the Dnr.
11:22:25 Use office like sort of the price surveys. So we try to estimate what the mills are paying for.
11:22:32 The, the lumber or the log, and then how much it would cost to log it.
11:22:39 So when we put the sell out, we say, Hey, this stand these 137 acres without any costs, as the trees themselves are worth almost 4 million dollars, and then we say, it's going
to cost about $681,000 logged it's going to cost as much to
11:22:56 haul it, and then to build the roads. It's going to be about 500,000.
11:22:58 So then we get a estimated bit price. I should have put that estimated bid profit on here.
11:23:05 But it. That was about 1.9 million, I believe so. If you were to add up our estimate, bid Price, with all of our estimate logging, Spi came in and bid over our estimated to
2.8.
11:23:22 So that's proprietary information. We don't know what the value of the lumber is to spi.
11:23:32 We try to get surveys and estimate what that is.
11:23:33 But you know, markets fluctuate. They put different values on it, based off of timber cells that they have under contract or with other land owners, so that value to them either
Sierra or Hampton, or inner 4 that value changes by a Mill owner based off of you know their needs so we
11:23:54 don't ever really know what they would pay for that delivered price.
11:24:00 So it's sort of our best guess. And then, like Brian said they might have a logger in the area already, or road builder, so they could maybe get a little bit cheaper cost than
what we are estimating, so we start at a lower price but that delivered value sort of
11:24:14 that's that tree. How much is that tree worth? Not and why we like to put it there?
11:24:20 So how much that tree worth you know to the economy? Right?
11:24:24 So it's about 4 million bucks, and then the sole price of what we actually ended up selling to.
11:24:29 And it's hard to sort of say, Hey, you know.
11:24:38 Okay.
11:24:34 We asked that delivered prices in actuality is probably a little bit higher, but you can't just add, you know, 50% value and get a realistic number because it just the map doesn't
add up.
11:24:44 So it's sort of our best guess of where those costs and what that value is.
11:24:49 The bottom line is it's sold for 2.8 million, and then our costs down below are sort of estimated.
11:24:56 You can almost add those into it to get a true, a little bit better. You know.
11:24:59 Guess of what maybe the delivered value is.
11:25:02 Perfect. Thank you so much, David Andrew, that's very help.
11:25:06 So the bidders bid, based on what they think they could make in their money, and, you know, needing needing to keep their mill operable, and things like that.
11:25:17 So as the markets going up our bids improve. In this case, you know the markets been strong and we have really high quality product up there, so they bid it significantly higher.
11:25:28 But when recessions hit and the economy starts to turn down, there are times when we get no bids on our harvests.
11:25:33 And then we reappraise and reoper.
11:25:36 So we haven't. We haven't had that in probably the last 5 years which is not normal.
11:25:41 So the whole environment that we've been living in for the last 5 years is not a normal circumstance.
11:25:48 Usually the timber industry goes up and down about every 2 years, and the one note of this, yeah.
11:25:53 Dnr. Timber cells in general are the security blanket for the mills.
11:25:58 Most of the the lumber or the logs that the mills are buying come off of private land owners.
11:26:08 A large prave land owners, you know, like the Rainiers, the Maryland rings, the Pope.
11:26:13 And they, you know, they buy those logs, you know, within like, on a quarter basis, right?
11:26:21 So they're buying it, and they're getting it, you know.
11:26:22 The next week, the next month, where, if they buy a Dnr timber sale, they have 2 or 3 years to sort of, you know.
11:26:31 Decide when they get to see that volume or realize that volume.
11:26:33 So there's sort of that security blanket for them, and especially during tough times, where the prices are.
11:26:38 Controlled by sort of the other private industries, where they have a Dnr sale, where they can sort of pick and choose when they get a login, and when they get.
11:26:50 Yeah. Sounds. Like silicon Valley Bank Bank should have maybe had some some of their.
11:26:55 We're fully logging. Sorry. Go ahead.
11:26:58 Hey, so go ahead. So this is so. The red is areas that are set aside.
11:27:04 You could see down in the lower right that the natural areas that are set aside, and then mirrorled habitat Merelet stands, and then other protection. Things like that.
11:27:17 So ballpark numbers for Jefferson County manage about 26,000 27,000 acres.
11:27:24 There about 1010,000 of that is set aside so, and that includes the natural areas in other things.
11:27:34 So they. You can see that there's about half of the map is blue and half of the map is red.
11:27:43 And so what that map doesn't show you is the Ag of the stands that are in the blue.
11:27:48 So they may be anywhere from 5 years old to a 120 years old, but we really only start managing them once. They turn about 40.
11:27:58 Hey, Brian, so are you.
11:27:58 I mean I will will manage, that man. I'm sorry managing them for harvest. About 40.
11:28:03 We do thinnings and plantings and all other stuff before 40 butt. Okay?
11:28:07 I'm sorry. Go ahead.
11:28:09 I just had a question back on this penny wise, just because it my curious mind kicked in.
11:28:16 Can you explain what? Show a shovel?
11:28:23 Seasonal shovel is. It's part of it's grayed out in the penny wise logging.
11:28:29 So seasonal shovel, so shovel is a ground based equipment.
11:28:35 It's kind of like an excavator that has a head on it for moving logs, and they are.
11:28:41 They are. They have very low ground pressure. So they under the right and under the right conditions. They don't do a lot of ground damage.
11:28:53 But if you have very soft soils and wet weather, they can cause some damage.
11:28:57 So that's why we had the wet weather conditions on a portion of the penny wise sale, and that the reason I bet back of our is not active on that portion of the unit.
11:29:05 So they do that when the conditions improve.
11:29:09 So once it starts to dry out. So the timing, I believe time restriction on that's either.
11:29:17 May, April first, or May first, so by that time we're starting to get dryer weather, the soil is starting to set up better, and they that's when their operational season is.
11:29:27 Okay.
11:29:28 So basically, that's the late spring, early or late, spring, summer, early fall.
11:29:34 Hey! Thanks!
11:29:34 Also with the also with the shovel. They can put a mat of limbs on the ground and walk on that, and that'll also with the soil damage.
11:29:45 So so it's a soils thing. Got it?
11:29:47 Is the soils, things.
11:29:49 Thank you.
11:29:52 Great. Please continue, Ronan.
11:29:57 I guess.
11:30:02 Fabulous, so that this is what's coming up.
11:30:04 So you got that's all I have.
11:30:09 Yeah. Ready for any other questions.
11:30:10 Can you go back to that previous map of the Straits district? I was curious.
11:30:15 Why, none of the Webinar Jefferson County populated, but I know that.
11:30:23 Oh!
11:30:19 Cause. It's not cause. It's not in my district that's in coast district.
11:30:27 So, yeah, so I only go to Lake Crescent. So that's that's I thought about looking over there.
11:30:36 But I don't like to look over the fence.
11:30:26 Oh, okay. I didn't know that so fair enough.
11:30:39 Any other questions. Kate, Jeff, hi Dee! I've been asking you to go.
11:30:44 Okay, well, this is super helpful for us to kind of dig into this a little bit as well as just seeing the numbers and the, you know, really appreciate this thing extra effort
that Dnr.
11:30:57 Has been putting out. Are you guys gonna talk about naming conventions?
11:31:01 I always find that fascinating. How you guys end up naming the sales.
11:31:03 But maybe you want. Do I make that a public record? I don't know.
11:31:06 Oh, I think we'll pass on that one.
11:31:12 Well, look forward to the net to part 3 from field auction. I guess, when we were return for the second quarter update is that when we should expect this.
11:31:21 Yup!
11:31:23 Yes.
11:31:25 Great, well, super helpful, really appreciate the extra efforts.
11:31:33 Thank you.
11:31:34 Okay.
11:31:32 Yeah. Alright, yeah. So thanks. And we'll let you go for now and see you soon.
11:31:40 So long!
11:31:41 Thanks.
11:31:41 A great day. Thanks, Brian, thanks, David. Thanks, crew.
11:31:45 You bet!
11:31:46 Okay.
11:31:50 All right. Believe that takes us through our agenda or timed items this morning.
11:32:03 Yeah, I do wanna add, we're gonna have a little roughly around 20'clock.
11:32:08 We're gonna invite Montana to make a brief, a brief talk with us this afternoon, but we have a fairly light late afternoon. Kate.
11:32:16 We've gone through briefing and calendaring already.
11:32:21 Do you wanna take a few moments to take us through your last week, and especially highlight, if there's any conflict coming up this week.
11:32:25 Sure. Yup, thanks. I'm sorry to be late joining today, and and important appointments we needed to be at.
11:32:35 So this let's see. Shake over last week.
11:32:38 Yes, please.
11:32:40 Alright so busy week last week. Tuesday.
11:32:47 Good, some planning for our legislative update for the Board of Health which is that a new feature?
11:32:55 We're having a Board of health started later in the week, and we have our Climate Action Committee.
11:33:01 And we're gonna be asked to be reporting out on our climate action goals.
11:33:07 So I'll be coming to Mark Mark and some departments with some requests there, and we wanna try get any good deliverable metrics.
11:33:14 We should think about what, what we can do, that we've set out for ourselves.
11:33:19 So maybe I'll bring those back next week, so we can take a look at it.
11:33:22 Attended the.
11:33:23 Recycle paper we got recycled paper now, and can I ask you a question?
11:33:26 Great yup!
11:33:29 In the executive Director of Work.
11:33:32 Ca is looking to touch base with the climate Action Committee about some climate goals and legislation that's going on.
11:33:38 And I was just wondering who should I connect him, Cindy Jane, or who's the?
11:33:42 Let's see. So Case cough just was appointed as the chair.
11:33:52 And yeah, interesting. I wonder, would the work that we're doing on board of Health be appropriate because we now have Laura Guesseslan?
11:33:43 Hi!
11:34:02 Tataro is now. Our chair is kind of designated for climate work, where it overlaps with human health, which might be appropriate for that Orca nexus.
11:34:13 Yeah, I'm happy to make that connection. Does Laura sit on the Cac as well?
11:34:17 She's been attending, but I'd also be happy to chat with him and see where you know where to best direct it.
11:34:26 Yeah. Cac is a volunteer committee. We we do have some staff, and Laura Tucker and Judy Server.
11:34:33 So just depending what it is, I could probably direct more specifically to the right person.
11:34:40 But there's not a lot of steps support.
11:34:40 Okay, you and Laura. So thank you.
11:34:44 Okay. Sure. Went to the open house on Tuesday night for the healthier to together initiative.
11:34:55 And that went really well. It was the in person one well attended, some great questions, input feedback from the audience.
11:35:05 There was, I was glad. I'm usually the one who keeps talking about how to make this project most accessible to the whole county, and there was some other representation from
people who live in the county there, and so I think that message continues to get amplified and that
11:35:22 consultants who are working on that project did a great job.
11:35:26 See? Wednesday started a busy couple of days in Olympia, had a leadership council meeting in Olympia.
11:35:36 That's some partnerships, and we spent a lot of time talking about how how to build into a lot of the funding proposals coming from the Feds in the State.
11:35:52 The idea of multi-benefits. So instead of just, you know, kind of pavement restoration, which washed it always tells us, is there so in safety, but those are their main concerns.
11:36:01 Say, Hey, if we have this? Yeah, literally, multi 1 billion dollar opportunity right now, how can that go towards projects that are also benefiting the environment?
11:36:10 So we'll be advancing that idea.
11:36:12 But it was good to spend a day with Dot, and both Usdot and Washington and Member State Regulatory agencies talking about went from that into I had a quick meeting on the pump
track.
11:36:34 Since I'm getting more involved in the fairgrounds.
11:36:37 Seems like I'm gonna be a little more involved in that, just as we try to. You know.
11:36:43 Make sure that projects like that don't fall into the the crevasses.
11:36:48 There's a. So we get that organization stabilized.
11:36:55 And that meeting was with Evergreen Bike Club, which will be doing the first round of engineering and coming up with some plans.
11:37:03 So that's moving along nicely. What to legislative steering committee.
11:37:08 Wednesday evening in Olympia. That was some legislators. That evening.
11:37:14 It was useful. Thursday was at legislative Steering Committee much of the day, and all Olympia met with Commissioner Franz and heard about.
11:37:25 You know. Dnr priorities. One thing that I had not heard previously is that Dnr.
11:37:33 Is interested in making land that they have. That's zoned residential in urban growth areas of available for affordable housing projects so they're doing a statewide inventory.
11:37:43 But I also asked Jeff Chapman if you would see if we had any land that fit that bill, so we'll see what that yields.
11:37:52 One question I had was about whether the carbon program, as we were talking about it, what maybe 3 or 4 months ago, before the carbon bill existed.
11:38:02 If that was still going to be an existing, regardless of the bill passed or not, and sounds like that, you know, as Heidi has mentioned, really the ability to sell carbon credits
versus leasing them has a lot more value.
11:38:25 Okay.
11:38:20 So, you know I think we the bill is there's been a lot of compromise in it, and there's concern from the environmental community that it doesn't go far enough.
11:38:33 But and the preliminary analysis I've done.
11:38:37 It sounds like there's it does provide some real opportunities.
11:38:41 So I'm something that we might want to consider supporting.
11:38:45 But I would certainly need to get some more input before deciding on that.
11:38:52 Let's see. Then we had a Board of Health meeting.
11:38:55 Thursday afternoon I totally spaced out the second healthier together.
11:39:01 Open house, which was virtual, it just completely like, didn't register.
11:39:08 After 2 really long days. Let's see Friday had a great meeting with Mark, and Wendy Davis.
11:39:17 A new communications manager that our workshop will be here for Wendy in a week.
11:39:23 Had a Workforce Development Board meeting which is good and timely.
11:39:31 We go to Washington, DC. So Saturday for the annual conference there on workforce, there is.
11:39:40 Okay.
11:39:41 It sounds like, continues to be some more additional funding coming through, which allows for workforce to pay for less traditional items.
11:39:53 Things like housing and food vouchers and transportation that's really having some great effects.
11:40:00 It's a bit of a first time this program was supported by the State, probably related to Covid Funds.
11:40:04 That's seeing great outcomes. Not surprisingly, when people are stabilized today are able to hold a job.
11:40:13 So trying to make a case for continuing that funding.
11:40:19 But it's politically a little bit tricky.
11:40:23 Let's see how a meeting with fairgrounds folks, the the small committee that is working on the reorganization, and I think we have made some good strategies and finding agreement.
11:40:37 It's pretty strong camps represented. Think we might have struck the balance there, so I'll be creating a proposal, and share it with you guys when it is when it gets some buy
in, and then I think we're gonna call a special to present it to the
11:40:58 stakeholders and the public. In the beginning of April, Umhm.
11:41:02 Special meeting of the Bs. C. Or.
11:41:05 Sorry not the the fairboards. Yup. Let's see, attended a memorial with with Julie for one of our county volunteers. Husband.
11:41:21 She passed away, and that was that was my last week.
11:41:27 So I look ahead.
11:41:29 Yes. Please. Okay.
11:41:31 So I am around this week, be joining you today.
11:41:38 Tomorrow, at fair. I'm gonna work with the No. DC.
11:41:43 Tomorrow with the Big Development Council and that recompete grants the large workforce development.
11:41:49 Grant is real. Writing is getting close they've done some listening sessions and a DC.
11:41:58 Has been engaged on. That sounds like they're there might be an opportunity.
11:42:04 Let's just call it for Jefferson to do our own proposal and so that's where we're gonna have to give a lot of thought to.
11:42:13 If that's that, who wants to take that on that?
11:42:16 There's potentially not a regional proposal which is unfortunate, but we'll see just little bit of a splintering going on.
11:42:27 We know that happens. So we'll be talking a lot about that, in the next couple of days.
11:42:36 We have our transit do we have a transit meeting special meeting yet?
11:42:39 Tomorrow afternoon, then I'll be testifying on the point O.
11:42:45 9 bill in the Senate virtually tomorrow. Late afternoon.
11:42:51 Wednesday I'll be in a Washington.
11:42:55 See. Grant Advisory Board meeting all morning that a childcare team meeting that Housing Fund Board meeting and then workforce development meeting that evening, Thursday we're
signing the lease for between the it's a complicated lease.
11:43:21 But primarily between the Y.M.C.A. And the School Port Times and School district for the new childcare center.
11:43:26 So first really official step there, which is great, I'll be meeting with Aaron reading from the Psychedelic Society as it sounds like both of you have already.
11:43:36 Meeting with on a complicated records request.
11:43:44 Then Friday, I'm meeting with the Municipal Research Service Center and our legislative update little bit late on Friday, which is just fine cause I have a early morning flight
to DC.
11:44:02 And I'll be working on weekends at the conference.
11:44:04 So I'm gone until Tuesday night, but then I go right to Olympia Wednesday, Thursday, so I really won't be back at the office until Friday thirty-first.
11:44:15 Okay, busy. Couple of weeks.
11:44:18 Very busy. Let let me just see if there's anything that.
11:44:23 So next Monday I will be joining you virtually from DC.
11:44:30 Okay.
11:44:27 And only for the morning session. Let's see, I've mostly cleared my calendar, otherwise we've got good coverage on the Usda.
11:44:40 Grant. Michael Mark is doing a great job on that.
11:44:47 Yeah, I think I think I'm covered.
11:44:52 Great. Okay? Well, that's takes care of that. I wonder?
11:44:57 Do you guys want to take a look at one or 2 of these letters that we have this afternoon?
11:45:07 Hmm!
11:45:05 You know what I I do have a meeting and I wouldn't mind being able to have grab a quick bite to eat.
11:45:12 Between? Is that what it be possible?
11:45:13 15Â min for that. That's no problem. Why don't we recess and tell 1, 30 and we'll come back, and we've got a fairly light light afternoon.
11:45:24 Hope to get out by 3 30 myself this afternoon. So that's our goal.
11:45:26 Oh, great and just real quick! I cannot do it.
11:45:30 With a meeting, because there's been a meeting called of a bunch of jurisdictions to talk about the wash dot, or washed up letters, and if we wanna take any further action,
so I wonder could we before we recess?
11:45:43 Can we talk about that just for a minute?
11:45:46 Okay.
11:45:40 Yeah, and take a reminder. You had a letter to walk on. You'll do that this afternoon.
11:45:51 Thank you. Yes, that'd be great. So the number of jurisdictions from Jefferson and Kyle are meeting at noon.
11:46:03 It was called kind of last minute to see if we wanna continue to apply any pressure on wash that would just levity fee feedback from you before I go into that on where we stand
on that.
11:46:15 Hey? What's that? Is it? Planned the bridge closer. You saw that the roundabout works not happening this summer right?
11:46:20 Yes. Yeah.
11:46:22 I have a meeting. I'm going to the emergency services meeting with Washtop on Thursday will eventually be there to be reported.
11:46:31 Good.
11:46:31 I don't know about more feedback. I feel like they've been pretty clear that they're not going to move those dates.
11:46:37 So we I mean asking for June. June is gonna fall on deaf ears, but asking for, you know, pass through access during those times is good as long as it does not result in another
weekend closure I mean I you know, I feel like that I have a conditional support. Of that idea but I don't know heidi anything else.
11:46:59 I mean, I would just say that in the community, in my conversations, most of what I'm hearing is people agree with the idea of moving, and I've said Well, it doesn't sound like.is
very excited about that idea.
11:47:16 But people are still excited about that idea, so I would just share that sentiment from the community.
11:47:24 Yeah, no, I would just.
11:47:25 I don't know. Sorry. Just say, I don't know if either of you have heard their messaging is saying that they're even concerned about meeting the dates that they outlined originally
and I don't know if that's supply chain, or but you know just definitely aware that as
11:47:41 soon as you get past that third weekend, then you hit thing, and 2 weeks later wouldn't vote.
11:47:49 So pushing it off. And you know, being kind of dependent on Earth, you know, subject to the supply chain issues means that it could actually just get pushed later and later.
11:48:00 Until then until next year, because of all winter weather, I mean.
11:48:05 So what are you thinking of as a first? As a point of view of Jefferson?
11:48:10 Count. Okay.
11:48:12 So I I don't feel I don't hear a real strong consensus.
11:48:16 I'm it sounds like June isn't an option in terms of so materials.
11:48:22 But I'm not sure if we, you know, give up on that.
11:48:25 I think the question is really, do we go try to go above, you know.
11:48:32 Go higher in the food chain. So right to Secretary Malar and so our legislators.
11:48:40 You know, I still think the longer longer, closure kind of getting it all done in a shorter amount of time is might be an option, you know.
11:48:51 We're trying to see if there's agreement amongst the jurisdictions on what we're asking for.
11:48:57 Well, if they're saying that it might be pushed later because of supply chain issues, could we just say, Can we really plan for 24?
11:49:07 We do a good plan for 24 that we could all agree on.
11:49:11 If they push it much past, wouldn't vote. It's the weather when you know they've lost their weather window so, and I don't know they may have to do it in this window, too. Yeah.
11:49:27 Okay, so it sounds like more sorry. Go ahead.
11:49:26 I mean I no, I was just gonna kind of echo what he hiding said that you know it would be great if it didn't impact all of August and it seems like it's moving in that direction.
11:49:41 So, considering a different kind of closure earlier in the year and 24 would be really palatable.
11:49:49 Okay. Great. I will carry that message but I wanna get something to eat first.
11:49:55 Okay, so we'll we'll rescess to 1, 30.
11:49:59 We'll see back here, then.
13:34:11 This will be online, yeah.
13:34:21 Hmm, okay. Yeah.
13:34:54 One.
13:35:00 Sorry! Alright! And Kate's a few minutes late, as well.
13:35:23 Oh, hang on the last one here. Yes, sir, sorry I I apologize to everyone, staff, and appears in the public, and I will call this meeting on the Board of Commissioners back to
order.
13:35:39 And thank you. Thank you so much for being here today.
13:35:44 Talk, about the finance departments, work, plan. Unless you have anything.
13:35:53 Now other than what we have here is.
13:36:00 Department department of one and.
13:36:22 You know, duty was cheap account, and there's a great deal of that in the office. And so the border between the thank you, I'm gonna go ahead and share my screen.
13:36:56 Alright, so I'm happy to share my goal for 2023.
13:37:03 And, as Mark had mentioned, a lot of my goals are partly building with the finance people and accounting in the office. So we'll just step back.
13:37:16 So. And actually, this speaks to my personal.
13:37:23 We were able to make some changes within the department, so that we have actually support.
13:37:29 The biggest one, where we have not 2 fault-time people. There.
13:37:34 So that is, that's been exciting to bring back together Aida was able to take her first week of vacation in a very, and she came back to work with me.
13:37:50 So that was just really exciting to be able to have someone go on vacation or not worry about what's happening.
13:37:59 As I'm not here so we've already done, really working those together.
13:38:06 The other thing is, with each and point on professional development.
13:38:09 There has been a lot of professional development you know, when Covid happened.
13:38:14 Professional developers. Kind of taped. And so it was kind of one of those things where we really needed to talk to our employees.
13:38:23 Okay, what part of your job you really like, what don't you like?
13:38:26 What we grow that kind of thing. So we're starting to have those conversations.
13:38:32 So that's exciting. And then another thing that I really it is near.
13:38:36 During my heart, for 2023 is well-being and it's really important that we treat our employees with that.
13:38:45 They're real people. They have relationships, are outside of our workplace.
13:38:49 And also helping them to navigate that balance.
13:38:54 And so one thing I do. Monday, and in that bottle one time my 2 most important second.
13:39:03 Right now I will be and trust, and so we're Bryan as a group in that.
13:39:11 And actually, today mentioned to them, I'd like you to pick one thing off of the tips list of about creating and maybe try to implement that this week so we'll see how they
do but to me it's exciting to be able to work with his team and help with them whether working together cohesively as
13:39:34 a team and not just these.
13:39:41 You know, working in their own. So so that's my personal.
13:39:47 That's a great goal. Judy. Yeah, so the Internet.
13:39:58 And what I find. Sucks, and when I find something that kind of resonates with where I'm trying to go with it, it's for well being, you know, side enjoying neighborhood or nature
connecting with friends getting plenty of rest and relaxing reducing stress I mean that's
13:40:14 just fine. I don't know 10 of them so, and I'm working on that as well.
13:40:24 So employee subservices. The next step for implementing payroll employees, self service is the ability for the employee to access their own information.
13:40:37 Their accruals are our work tax documents, all of you know.
13:40:40 They can schedule time off. There's a lot around that.
13:40:42 We're just now really diving into it. In the month of March.
13:40:48 But the goal is that they can actually just enter on their smartphone their tech.
13:40:54 And then that goes into newness. It gets the manager.
13:41:03 So there's not this sitting here bye, certain people just right, you know.
13:41:08 The other thing is request for the patient. Pt. I'll send directly to the presentation for approval, and then they're able to approve request for time off perfectly efficiently.
13:41:25 You know. Okay, so we're really excited about being able to do this.
13:41:36 Yes, so people can see their pace. Students are using us exactly, so we won't get those pieces of paper anymore.
13:41:47 So that's like another 300. Okay, yeah.
13:41:59 It's also an electricity to run the printer and all of that.
13:42:05 So our timeline, for this is march we're setting it up, or we're working, even configuring it in April will roll out to.
13:42:16 Made is our Beta testing and employee employee training.
13:42:24 And then what I think Beta, test. Only half of the departments are.
13:42:27 Gonna get their first try at it and help us kind of work for it, cause we need to put in place.
13:42:38 It's probably a good idea to find a second guess.
13:42:39 Everything that's gonna happen. But you know, we're pretty limited when it comes to writing everything.
13:42:45 Sure are you gonna be able to screen with me? Okay? And and then the goal is, how many employees will be entering into Ess in June?
13:42:56 And then July will be the first. Came home with Uss.
13:42:59 The only thing that could possibly be a pitch in this is that we have to upgrade to version twenty- and you know we were talking about trust and building trust.
13:43:10 We really don't want to roll a brand new program out then do it upgrade and then have it change.
13:43:16 That would just so we're talking right now. Whatever it takes to be upgraded.
13:43:23 And then, so that might you know, adjusted a little bit.
13:43:25 We're hoping that maintain the same timeline.
13:43:28 Yeah.
13:43:31 Okay, so municipal management management is decentralized, but with newness, management, equipment, we would actually have one area where all of our grants would be located.
13:43:45 So even though the it'll be decentralized throughout account.
13:43:50 Ing as it is now, at least we have one stopping place is the goal.
13:43:55 All our grants management. The beauty of this is, it's tracked.
13:43:59 It's tracked by the fund that's using.
13:44:02 And also it can help us provide the oversight that the Sel wants us to have.
13:44:09 As far as the State Auditors Office. Yes, thanks. I'm sure that's only better.
13:44:22 And so, yeah, so great's one of those things about regarding compliance. The Sao really wants us to start having that we hired Michael Mark Grant's administrator and part of
his role is to provide that compliance.
13:44:42 So we have to just get off the ground with that we're not right now, and can just make sure I'm understanding the first bullet point there that the Grant management across the
county will continue to be decentralized.
13:44:51 But this is because different departments get different grants and grants coming from all over the place is that.
13:45:05 So public health is expert grants, public works is expert, but we have people in this building who don't have the bandwidth to manage.
13:45:13 Grants. That's part of the reason we heard an example is the Usda Grant.
13:45:20 The massive amount of work, and if Michael wasn't here, who would be given that?
13:45:25 So the students would be used by these. Grant I want to see what grade we have.
13:45:34 I could go. Beautiful part of it is that we can actually push the button. We have a generator schedule 16 for receiving a schedule for the annual report.
13:45:54 , so I mean, it's gonna be a little down the road if you're able to do that.
13:46:00 But that's an old. As well. So the nice part about 2 then is, if there's a question we can go to one place and get that information.
13:46:12 It's would be huge. So , so our timeline for this is we just approved a training package with UN. We need to retrain move a barely.
13:46:37 And we do this, and so, therefore we. We need a refresher, for one of your first goals, too.
13:46:43 Right, exactly so. So we'll be generating the test environment and then we'll move out to training departments and how to use it, because we're going to be overseeing that area.
13:46:57 Area is still, the department is still going to enter that information.
13:47:05 So I wonder? Okay, so the next thing is, that's all I have is single work and SEO on it.
13:47:14 And I put this on as a goal is because number one is a reconciliation between.
13:47:23 This is an area that has been really challenging in 2021 because of 3 systems.
13:47:30 And so, even though it's just may not get top based, our account for all the hours.
13:47:41 And so we have a task force which is a lot of our name.
13:47:48 Mark likes to use assigned to accomplish that.
13:47:52 And so that's going to be between myself, Sara Simmons, and then a couple of people in the Treasury staff. So we're going to work collaboratively to really bring this around
and bring home.
13:48:05 And so then the goal is number 2 is that we would have no insufficiency in the internal control, because that's one of the areas of insufficiency.
13:48:11 Also we have a more depth review by the finance team, and when I say finance team, it's not just auditors we're involving other finance people.
13:48:20 We did it in in 2 half days last year, but I really see that it's going deeper into how did we put this together?
13:48:29 And so also we'd like to that. One is September third.
13:48:37 We don't want to that's never at all.
13:48:43 We can't control that completely, but we can help move it back.
13:48:50 The other thing, and this is on my wish list is, I'd like to do a went to learn.
13:48:56 Occasionally throughout the year, either monthly or quarterly, on such topics as new, as you know, shortcuts or handy things to use. What are you looking for?
13:49:04 This is where you go on, budget on, General Ledger.
13:49:08 On travel. Yeah. Principles excel. I mean the list can go on and on and on.
13:49:14 But what do we? What can we do in terms of need to help educate our county staff?
13:49:19 Because we have a lot of people. You know, that have come on board and they're trying to do their jobs. But they don't have all the tools.
13:49:28 That's what I see. The one thing about zoom is, you share a screen.
13:49:48 One, just note I've learned from the quarterly electives and directors meeting.
13:49:55 No one ever brings their lunch. I'll send. I'll send them with the lunchtime. They don't want to eat in front of people.
13:50:01 Okay. I'm almost done this couple of more slides.
13:50:19 And so I put this in there because I have personal bills.
13:50:24 Okay, mine is to improve my own. Alright. These last couple of years have been really challenging for all of us, and I recognize some of those challenges in my life.
13:50:39 And so that's one of the things I want to do is improve my health and my overall welling.
13:50:41 And then also work on my own professional development. Unfortunately, well, or fortunately, when I became finance manager, I was still for a year or better training normally
rental as a cheap account, and so a lot of that training's been done.
13:50:58 So I'm able now just to provide guidance, and so that is, that's gonna be huge.
13:51:03 With this the other time to work on my own development. Take a vacation.
13:51:07 I'll take a vacation last year. But I'd like another 2 meetings somewhere, and then so one of my goals is finding the intricacies of financial projections and learning to understand
our relative streams, and how they impact our county health you know, and just
13:51:31 really, I have just so I'd like to start to understand that.
13:51:39 And then we have the upcoming 20 or 25 by annual budget.
13:51:45 So that will be a lot of learning. And that process, too.
13:51:50 So even though I've done the word, it's more.
13:51:54 How do you put that altogether?
13:51:58 And then last. This is something, Brendan. I've been talking about.
13:52:01 We're in the process of updating travel and the travel worksheet for reimbursement.
13:52:07 There is a module that we've already paid for in this call.
13:52:14 Employee expense, and this allows you to actually enter your expenses instead.
13:52:19 A Travel reimbursement within the same system. Alright, and so the requirements are for departments to use, and I'm happy to report that all departments or use departments are
using premium except for public health, and they are entertaining.
13:52:39 So I have a conversation with Bronic last week and so if we can get to them as well if you go this way, you're gonna have this access a lot of time is spent on traveling everywhere.
13:52:56 A person doing it, the person having to approve it. The you know, the auditors of this kind of understand it, and understand what they're trying to get at.
13:53:08 I mean, you guys kind of do them, you know but you're handing it over to Julie right not yet. So it's a possible goal.
13:53:21 I'm just not sure if we have a capacity to actually implement in 2023.
13:53:26 But we definitely how many steps would that save, I mean so the employee would enter into there and save basically someone else inputting it.
13:53:33 Or that I mean it's. And then you stand here. And then, rather than filling out one of those truck and everlooks and ships, documents.
13:53:52 It would show up in your dashboard so I'm gonna eliminate every piece of paper in the county.
13:54:07 So that's all I have for you today.
13:54:10 So I know, yeah, I'm gonna pull the yeah. Her involvement in this goal will be tangential.
13:54:20 Bye, now, we don't have a purchasing office here.
13:54:23 We don't have a procurement officer, and I've had a conversation with about him potentially taking on that role, and that would involve implementing the contracts which would
necessarily involve some.
13:54:40 But essentially what that would do is, every contract would be entered into Unus yeah, we would scan in the documents the contract documents we put in not to exceed it.
13:54:50 So then, when folks are doing accounts table, they would reference the contract.
13:54:56 And those payments would then go against the not to exceed amount, and so, when you are approaching the not to exceed amount, it would inform you of that it would never let
you go above that amount, and it would also have the expiration date in there and it could trigger a warning 60 or 90 days, in advance then you have
13:55:16 a contract due to expire, and if you need to renew it, you might want to.
13:55:19 So a lot of functionality in the Us.
13:55:24 And probably 3 to 5 years to fully exploit it.
13:55:30 But we're on that right, I'm sure Judy would take an extra slide on the deck if you're meant leveraging more staff sufficiently.
13:55:39 Oh, I'm actually grants management works.
13:55:42 Someone in town with contract management. So what we've done is purchase a package with units for 9 days of training for that annual period.
13:55:56 It will start April to be a number of next year, and so that will give us, you know, people like Chris.
13:56:03 So frontline experience on how how to use it, the benefits of using it. That's not just for the auditors. So.
13:56:15 So you talked about training earlier and it's the finance staff.
13:56:21 But it's sounds like there's a lot of training.
13:56:24 That's gonna really help the county as a full to get everyone up to speed with me as as it continues.
13:56:30 To be sure, I think at some point almost everybody all have to login.
13:56:33 I mean yeah. So it'll be a different type of login.
13:56:37 But we'll have more more people on so Vss would be kind of a Munist portal.
13:56:44 Yes, it's a smartphone capability, in fact, already downloaded it to my phone.
13:56:55 Because I wanna make sure it was up there and then there are some things that you don't need to log into, and if you're just simply gonna enter your time and that by.
13:57:10 And I know it has thoughts on this from a security point of view, but certainly it's simpler for invoice to just log in to their their account account, and then have unfettered
access to the payroll piece.
13:57:24 Okay, so any comments, suggestions, questions, Kate. Anything to add?
13:57:34 Ask yes. Go ahead.
13:57:37 Sorry, complicated technology. So it takes a minute. Great work, Judy.
13:57:46 It's been really wonderful to see your position grow, and I'm sorry it's come at the expense of your health, and I hope that you can achieve some more balance something I'm
interested in.
13:57:56 I've heard from a number of people new to the county that they find the Budget Committee meeting really confusing, and so I've been thinking about.
13:58:08 Is there a way that we could structure some components of that to make it more user friendly and so I think you know, as we think about, if that meeting is gonna move back to
in person or a hybrid model like it's not a specific.
13:58:27 Ask, but just to like if maybe we could all be thinking about how to make that meeting more approachable for those that need to be in attendance. There.
13:58:36 And it took me a while to get really clear on how to follow it, and moves at a pretty good clip, which is fine, but just something I wanna be aware of that the public probably
is really quite lost if our own employees are feeling that way, too.
13:58:52 Sorry. I'm not sure I understand. Are you talking about the Budget Committee meeting?
13:58:58 Yes.
13:58:58 Okay. Okay.
13:59:01 Yeah. One thing I'm hoping. You know, we hired stop.
13:59:07 Carpenter is our database manager, and you mean us has tons of data in it, and there are ways that we can pull data out.
13:59:17 What is that for? That would be where you can display budget data and a number of different ways.
13:59:26 You could do it by department. And so what were the now right now?
13:59:31 He's in heavily engaged with that demand on his time, Wayne, somewhat, and I don't know when that will be my side.
13:59:39 I mean, yeah, I might not be here still, but we need that.
13:59:44 We need to leverage newness and begin to perfray data in a much more understandable and digestive format.
13:59:53 Not only for our employees, but for the public cause. I know the budget documents that we produce here.
13:59:57 I know when so we're still here he wanted a more effective budget presentation, and we've not yet achieved that.
14:00:03 And so I think I understand what you're saying. Okay.
14:00:08 And I've actually started looking at how we can just all the information on expenditure side directly out.
14:00:17 Yes, we don't have to hold. I'm sorry.
14:00:20 I'm still getting feedback, can. I'm talking to the microphone.
14:00:31 Thumbs, up, thumbs, down!
14:00:31 Either multiple or I'm sorry. I think we're a couple of people speaking.
14:00:37 I heard overlapping, or I?
14:00:41 It was just me saying, testing, testing.
14:00:45 Okay, I hear you. It's weird.
14:00:48 It seems to just fade out like every minute or so, and.
14:01:04 That any better?
14:01:08 I hear it. I hear you. It's been consistent like I don't lose you altogether, but it both of you both Mark and Judy, fade out with some regularity.
14:01:20 And in the public, saying that Greg, Kate, and Mark are good.
14:01:25 But Judy is terrible to these audio is terrible, so I don't know what's going on with it.
14:01:33 Okay, well, I think our time is up. You know, if you feel free to email me or suggestions, or come in and would like me to go over something else, hey?
14:01:44 Thank you to give you more detail extension 2 for one.
14:01:52 It's alright. Well, thank you, Judy, it's great to have you on that role, and great to see the work plan for the coming year.
14:01:59 The breadth of it's very impressive.
14:02:04 Thanks for being here. Brenda. Did you have anything to add?
14:02:10 She did it to practice alright. Well, great to see you, and thanks for being here and we'll invite Monty up to the table with Mark, and I guess really projects Monty.
14:02:23 I don't think, okay. Oh, wow! And we're walking, Monty on this this afternoon because he had sent an email earlier about kind of a proposal for perhaps considering changing
the way that we do bit openings at least for public work so I wanna give you a we don't have
14:02:42 a packed agenda. So we wanna give you a few moments to go over your idea.
14:02:45 Sure. Thanks as you guys, no, we've been opening events on Monday mornings, technical meetings.
14:02:55 That's it goes back I don't know how long it creates me.
14:03:04 But it's really not a great day or time of day.
14:03:09 The opening events for.
14:03:18 As your hold of you know. Maybe someone says, Well, why don't they do it? Earlier in the week?
14:03:28 It's just the way it goes. They're pulling together information up till the last minute on these bits, and I would like to push bidding back further in the week.
14:03:40 May counties. I've looked at her bidding Wednesday, Thursday, Fridays, I believe Mark Mccauley mentioned in Park County.
14:03:48 They on Thursdays I looked at. I guess I believe.
14:04:00 Hey? The bits are new.
14:04:12 Say on Thursday and 2 in the afternoon, and then we walked out of the hallway.
14:04:16 Open events publicly in the Commissioner's chamber, but not with any commissioners present.
14:04:25 Must. I wanted to be present?
14:04:32 It's required that it's an open public meeting.
14:04:45 So it's just seems like we could.
14:05:03 Not. We have I'm on your agenda in the middle of the day, where we have this specific time.
14:05:10 I mean the agenda where we do this, and you know it seems like it could work pretty well.
14:05:16 At least one better told me we might get better prices on some items, because sometimes they get last minute reductions in supply prices. Calls don't typically happen over the
weekend.
14:05:33 Of the.
14:05:38 And would you like right now we on our consent agenda today we had this Snow Creek Cold bid award in there, would you? Instead of doing that?
14:05:48 Then conversation with us. Where you talk about the bid process, and the award, or we just we could.
14:05:56 Yeah, we and we would still be awarding contracts through the board account.
14:06:00 And we could do that as a regular agenda item rather than send it in if that was dissolved.
14:06:07 That's certainly good.
14:06:09 So yes!
14:06:12 You're gonna have a lot of bits coming out this year, either.
14:06:17 Yeah, we have some good work this year, for sure. I mean, we open the single creek of the project a week or 2 ago.
14:06:24 And the sewers coming up, and then we have, you know, Stripy, and and we'll have more.
14:06:37 But if we're agreeable to doing this, I'd like to.
14:06:44 We have to submit an opening next Monday.
14:06:46 I'd like to push that till later in the week through, and demo a better.
14:06:52 We have to issue some other information regarding the documents already, so I would roll back in there with that again, saying, Look open Thursday.
14:07:05 And again this will change where the bids are delivered to they'll still come into the office down there you have a commissioner's staff will be the ones logging in the bids,
making sure they're on time time.
14:07:21 The day and the time that we actually hold the most bid, so I would come down, stick up the bids from the Commissioner's office, say at 2 Pm.
14:07:30 And come log down here with any. Theaters are under people who are present, and.
14:07:39 We haven't seen technical.
14:07:47 Transfer. It might be the one, the one that you were using the shorter one, I think is, might be alright.
14:07:57 Oh, yeah, both. Speaking of the one that Greg just stated.
14:08:02 Oh, okay. See if that we need to start over, you know. I don't think so, but I will turn to Kate and Heidi for Pops question so my one question I had was, whether is there any
need for us to publish all the like if we get 3 beds we need
14:08:21 to publish those. So the bid results. The Rcw.
14:08:29 Which is probably written 18, something.
14:08:38 Thousands of, but it says that the big Shelby, in writing either mark.
14:08:49 Actually, we file with the accounting clerk, and they'll be open and read in public if.
14:08:58 Immediately after the award is made, the award is made.
14:09:02 The big quotation shall be recorded and open to public inspection, and shall be available to.
14:09:15 So after be it a war, the big quote shall be recorded and open to public inspection.
14:09:20 So we would attach the big quotes to the adjacent item, which is what we do.
14:09:26 We, we attach the big tabulations to the award agenda item already with that agenda. So we're meeting this requirement.
14:09:37 And this is what the other? Well, oh, and typically in county many years I was involved with opening bids, and really, people that attended were the bitters.
14:09:50 Hmm, member of the public. Just curious. Well, I love the speculation that later.
14:09:57 Did accepting bids later would cause potentially lower bids cause they know the costs are good. So I mean, that's a a huge upside to your proposal.
14:10:09 Hey? Scattering on that!
14:10:13 Yeah. I'm just curious when some changes come up.
14:10:16 Legislatively and particularly well. I'm not the allowance of electronic bidding.
14:10:25 Do you see any of those kind of affecting the way we do it?
14:10:34 And I will say I would miss having bit openings in our meetings, but I think it's just gotten used to other than that level of information.
14:10:38 But I think it's just because it's the way we've always done it, and it's hard to change.
14:10:44 But certainly support it if it's if that's easier. But I'm just curious if some of this is going to change anyway, with electronic fitting and other changes.
14:10:53 Yeah, I haven't kept pace with the discussion or proposals that electronic betting and how that might work at a school government like this.
14:11:05 But I'm sure there will be changes like that in the office now, advertising.
14:11:13 Well, that's not good. We. Still, we're only posting our bid documents electronically on builders exchange.
14:11:28 City and others are using. Yeah, that's where they have to go. Get good documents.
14:11:34 So let me. Why has changed since the you know, few years ago.
14:11:38 Come in and pick up a pound paper copy of all of the documents, and it wasn't that many years ago when I paid it drive all the way to Paul's fault.
14:11:48 Be a documents, copy and stuff like that. That so? And now it's all Pdfs and online type stuff.
14:11:57 So it may continue to change, and then, as far as Hey!
14:12:04 Did opening itself. I mean we if we were opening bids on Thursdays, say here we could immediately push a notification out to the board, letting you know what the bit results
works, and everyone's serious, especially when it comes to like maybe this, or what these guys were you could let you
14:12:25 know how want. And then again, that's a little bit over.
14:12:32 And then, if they did come in and say, Thursday, could they go in the packet for the following Monday, or is there no need to deal with it? And it's no need.
14:12:46 Usually we're a couple of weeks between that opening a bit award, I would say to just the way the publishing dates work here.
14:12:49 The Board's meeting but the first publication gets Wednesday, officially.
14:12:53 So it's this weird like, is it? 2 and a half weeks or 3 and a half weeks that people really have these documents available?
14:13:03 It would be if we're opening on Wednesday or Thursday, then they will have like a full 3 weeks, you know, with the documents rather than that kind of the minimum wage.
14:13:14 13 days from the that first advertising. It's just a I didn't check around, and it seems like the the standard style.
14:13:30 I know. I know it files counting because I believe they meet on Tuesdays.
14:13:38 They still open their bids on a Tuesday, but.
14:13:44 Cause. That's one. That's okay.
14:13:52 Yeah, it's is there anything that would prevent? I guess we'll 2 questions send me. You might not have the answer to those, but one of us from coming down and watching a bit
opening? And the other, I guess, would be if more than one of us showed up.
14:14:07 I think there's no to prevent one of you from showing up, and I and not the expert on Opm.
14:14:16 Yeah.
14:14:15 A board members can be there. But if you're not, taking an action, if you're just watching, I think that would be acceptable might be a question for someone else.
14:14:28 Yeah, it's on the call.
14:14:33 Yeah, I mean, that's not the biggest part of this consideration.
14:14:39 I really enjoyed bit openings to something about the tactile opening of the envelope.
14:14:46 That's very appealing, but I would be modified if you just came back and talked about the process, you know, and the bit award when you're ready to reward the bid.
14:14:52 I think I would be happy with that. And come down and watch you open the envelope.
14:14:57 I could just and yeah, this isn't to.
14:15:03 Get out of the public spotlight, or sort of the board.
14:15:10 It's really that Monday saying, as long as you guys were meeting on a Wednesday we wouldn't be having so.
14:15:21 Yeah, we want it to work as efficiently as it can.
14:15:28 It seems like it can work more efficiently if it doesn't.
14:15:30 I've been during our meeting, so I mean, what kind of action are you looking forward to that?
14:15:37 I, you know, and anything like that. So I hope there's an agent that would be okay.
14:15:54 There's answer still. Sorry.
14:16:01 Sounds pretty good to me.
14:16:26 Second time I've used that in 2 weeks.
14:16:34 We have a couple of other based advertise right now for payment, marketing and aggregate.
14:16:40 I'm not sure if we'll change those or not.
14:16:45 You know the reason I want to change the sewers.
14:16:45 I feel like the bitters are going to hit us with questions at the last minute. We're gonna need.
14:16:59 Okay. And this is just for public work I mean, we have like we do our paper record bit opening.
14:17:06 And I don't think there's any reason to change that. I don't think there's a lot of other bids that come in. But just because this is a new, a new oh, just reporting that audio
from all of us now.
14:17:19 Just from the market.
14:17:21 No, no, just for monthly, and I can mostly, I mean, I'm more concerned about the public than I am about me. I mostly know what we're talking about, but like I did when you asked
Monty what's the ask here that we heard none of it.
14:17:33 On this end. So just sorry. Well!
14:17:33 But that's 3 different ways. That's my mic that he's on I feel like I'm pretty close.
14:17:43 I haven't been back and on, and me.
14:17:47 Yes.
14:17:48 Okay, so that's 3 different mics. And yeah, Monty is on my microphone. Now, I'm on Heidi.
14:17:56 Weird, where's yeah?
14:17:56 Zoom.
14:18:03 Yeah.
14:18:01 Turn around 3 times. Public is having the same experience but we'll let's give aside from the difficulty in hearing, because this is new and wasn't on our age.
14:18:18 I get that. We can't hear us sometimes, but specifically about this proposal from public works that they they change the way that they open the bid.
14:18:26 Not the word?
14:18:51 We can. Yes, thank you, Tom.
14:18:50 Okay. Can you hear me? Not in those heads? I was having a great day of difficulty understanding what's being proposed, but what I gather is that the idea is to open the bids
in private and do an evaluation, and then present only the conclusions to the commissioners for
14:19:12 approval, which kind of negates the need for the Commissioners to approve anything.
14:19:16 That's what's gonna happen. Cause that sounds like a rubber stamp.
14:19:20 The only concern I would have about it is, if, in fact, this process that you're describing, and the way I understood what you're describing is legal.
14:19:28 Then this notion of secrecy would might be, might cause some trouble that some contractor that would make a bid, say, well, wait a minute.
14:19:41 You opened them in secret. Nobody knew what was going on, and you know, maybe you know, perceived preference, or whatever.
14:19:48 That's the only concern I have the idea of them of the actual envelope being opened in public and read out loud. That lends a great deal of credibility to end transparency to
the process. So that's the only concern. I would say.
14:20:01 Did Mr. I wanna give you a chance to respond?
14:20:05 But I just wanna clarify one thing for you since we did have had some audio issues.
14:20:09 But Monty is proposing is that the bids are still opened in public, and the time of their opening is publicly listed with the bid with the Rfp.
14:20:19 Or the you know. Oh, from no phone, yeah, or whatever it's called it just wouldn't happen during open and public meeting.
14:20:27 And then the analysis and bid award would come back in front of the Commissioners, and instead of doing that in consent, Agenda would do it, that in an open session, but it
would still be a public opening probably in the chambers on a day, when the bocc was not in session.
14:20:45 Thank you for clarifying. That's helpful, as I think as long as that that bid opening process was done and advertised in the same way that Commissioner's meeting is advertised
and it'd be a hybrid meeting like this where people could participate
14:21:02 participate by zoom, then that would satisfy all those concerns.
14:21:06 I think. Thank you.
14:21:08 Thank you, Mr. Piers, and that does raise one question. I think we had just talked about in person that opening.
14:21:13 But is, what do you think about that? It's all in person.
14:21:18 You've gotta be there the way the other counties are doing.
14:21:21 It's not a public meeting. It's just their read in public.
14:21:26 So, you know, if you're there, you come down to the room and participate in the, you know big opening part open public meeting.
14:21:38 Or advertised as such. It's just I got the other counties, advertisements.
14:21:45 They all read the same proposals will be publicly, publicly, and then read aloud in Room 1, 16, outside of the front steps of a building adjacent to the room.
14:21:57 That's fine. Man. Yeah, I get what you're saying, and that's the standard practice with the other counties.
14:22:07 And so I don't think they're all being bids. Their evening meetings.
14:22:13 I think they're open public works with this.
14:22:20 And others. Okay.
14:22:23 Well, I will make one more call to anyone else who would like to make public comment on this topic.
14:22:28 You can click, raise hands.
14:22:32 Okay, seeing no one else, I will I'll close couple of comments, and I guess there's no action taken.
14:22:41 But we're looking for a general consensus among us for my plan.
14:22:48 Hey! Thumbs up 3 for 3. So yeah, we'll expect me to make that change for the in the you have.
14:22:58 I will let you know what we decide. I'm thinking Thursday right now, but I'll talk to Carol after the meeting, and go from there.
14:23:09 Thank you for your consideration. Thanks so much for work to increase the efficiency of government.
14:23:26 Likely that one that was aggregate probably won't mess with those.
14:23:37 But I feel like with the sewer we just currently do next we would be able to give them better. A few more days.
14:23:41 So I will implement this with the super bit like I said, we're gonna issue an addendum which is typical.
14:23:50 During bidding there are questions they need things clarified.
14:23:54 We've had pretty good walkthroughs on the project with these bidders.
14:23:58 They ask some questions. We're issuing a follow-up to that meeting.
14:24:03 Hold this change in as well.
14:24:14 And we'll likely proceed, since they brought it up.
14:24:21 You guys have to always do this.
14:24:32 Okay, thank you. Hey? You tell us how many people, how many get companies went to talk through 8 to 10 primes who might have had a couple of subcontractors there?
14:24:45 But you know, some of our local contractors, glad to hear that response.
14:24:53 Yeah, I think, I think we'll get a good response on that.
14:24:58 Hmm, yeah, thanks, Monty. Thanks for taking the time.
14:25:08 Okay, well, we'll move on. We have no other signed items this afternoon.
14:25:14 We do have a couple of letters. I heard, Kate. You might have a letter you want to walk onto, and I can give you an update of the new county radio program.
14:25:22 If you want. I'm sorry I was late, but it was super important meeting, and we like talking.
14:25:28 Yes, Mark, well, sitting here this afternoon. See mine. I got a letter that Mallory wine on her to be fostering is asking the word. Consider supporting.
14:25:40 Okay, so we can take your case, walk on, and then we have 2 that are scheduled.
14:25:46 Okay. Sounds. Good kind of start with the radio. You guys. So we have a radio program.
14:25:56 It's called county Connections. It is every Friday, at 1230 Pm.
14:26:02 It's 25Â min. They're not sure exactly what that transition that you know.
14:26:09 5, 2 will be whether it'll be their normal news segment, or it might be a song which would allow us to. You know.
14:26:16 Program when songs we can all give them. The idea is that we rotate, and we bring a guest.
14:26:24 I will let them know who the guests are for, and basically, what's Commissioner is going to be there for, you know, a month or 2 in lead, and if they have issues that will come
that come up that they want to address they can pushing me, and I'll talk about in open
14:26:41 session with, you guys, and we'll kind of program it that way.
14:26:44 One guest is pretty much plus the Commissioner is pretty much what you can take you can get 2 in there.
14:26:52 They can take guests in person, or virtually they had a topic that they asked about.
14:26:59 That would be. They would love for our first one, which is April fourteenth.
14:27:05 I don't know, Kate, I was gonna grab the first one, but what they would love to talk about some of the issues at the at the fairgrounds, not surprising.
14:27:15 So I don't know if you think that would be timely, and if you would mind a leading off with the conversation about the fairgrounds, and you could bring a guest if you wanted
as well.
14:27:26 Yeah, let me look at my calendar.
14:27:34 The day of the T lab Transportation Lab Conference.
14:27:38 So, maybe one is said like, maybe one of us would have to sneak out regardless.
14:27:37 Okay, so program.
14:27:44 Yes, I'm happy to do that. What is the you remind me when the city's bureaucracy program is?
14:27:54 Thursday, at 1230.
14:27:56 Okay, thank you. So did you say 12 or 1230 for hours?
14:28:02 Great. Thank you.
14:28:00 Oh, 30, yeah. Every Friday, at 1230 to 1255 and it's with Jim Burke will be the co-host is how he did it.
14:28:14 So basically, what are the Onsite Commissioner would be a co-host with Jim Burke, and you can bring a guest, and will, I would say, if you have ideas for this, shoot me those
ideas, where I guess shoot mark those ideas.
14:28:29 And we can have a work session next week, maybe, and just kinda talk through a month or 2 and get these set up, and I'll let them know I know this. Is there anything else?
14:28:38 Burning. Does anyone for the the second week, so we can give them April populate April.
14:28:45 Feels like you might know more about like the solid waste planning.
14:28:59 Alright, so I'll take 4 21. It's solid waste planning efforts.
14:29:07 And then I will plan you, Heidi, if you can't. On the 20 eighth.
14:29:14 Maybe I could do that tourism planning.
14:29:22 Okay, that sounds good. So I will. I will go ahead.
14:29:23 I think I think another interesting April one could be having the treasurer talking about property tax.
14:29:33 Oh, yeah.
14:29:35 Maybe Jeff Chapman, and one also, but you know that's a area I think public would benefit from some education on.
14:29:45 Yeah.
14:29:46 Both assessment and taxes.
14:29:48 I'm not sure when the best timing for the Olympic Peninsula tourism planning would be so I could find out. When we have our next meeting.
14:29:55 You find that I'll reach out to Jeff about assessments and Stacy about property taxes, and see what if they think happy to give up either of these?
14:30:08 Neither these are the optic or or solid waste.
14:30:09 Are like April, timely, so they can all get pushed.
14:30:13 If cause property taxes are coming out right after that right, for now.
14:30:19 No, they cannot solve. Is this your second payments? Do you know?
14:30:20 They do? Yeah do on Tex day.
14:30:25 Notice the value, but.
14:30:32 Alright, I will reach out to them and find out when they would like to be guests.
14:30:42 Oh, okay, so that's it. We have we have a radio program now.
14:30:45 I thought, bringing Wendy along. An early one, too, would be another good one, so we can also, it doesn't have to be a topic.
14:30:53 It can also be kind of a a department, or about an approach.
14:30:58 So yeah, I guess great. Well, we'll have a little opportunity next next week to bring topic forward. If if something strikes you, we can.
14:31:12 I think juvenile justice would be great, too.
14:31:17 Something that you know we can't talk about publicly very much. And yet it's really fascinating what we do, about rehabilitative work.
14:31:26 And Shannon could speak really well to that.
14:31:26 Justice, yeah.
14:31:33 Okay, it's gonna be pretty easy to program. I think.
14:31:36 Really get in any of the 3 of us there we can talk for 5Â min.
14:31:46 When I went, when I went and met with them initially.
14:31:50 You know, we had bring together brainstormed a list issues that could be covered, and I gave him the list.
14:31:58 At that meeting I gave him the list of all the Committees on, and they're like, well, there's a list.
14:32:02 Yeah, cool. Okay, speaking of juvenile justice and boards and committees, I just wanted to mention the sales Behavioral Health Administrative Service organization which we don't
appoint people to the Committee on.
14:32:19 But their advisory committee, then, has 3 people from each county, and with, and go into a subcontractor she had to leave for role.
14:32:32 They're leaving us with. No Jefferson County members on the Advisory Committee.
14:32:38 We did get a West End applicants. So we put one on, and only with that person being approved do we actually have a quorum, and the advisory committee can meet.
14:32:49 So even though we don't appoint these folks, we should think about, you know.
14:32:51 I know we have. I mean, Anne was really staffed when she was there, so I'm wondering if we still want to get some staff on there onto the Advisory meeting.
14:33:03 So!
14:33:04 And she was on it forever. So it lost a lot of institutional knowledge, too.
14:33:10 Yes, okay. Shall we move to latter you you wanna start Kate?
14:33:21 Sure. Let me share my screen. This was a kind of a late request.
14:33:32 Oh, sorry! I don't have a document open yet. Take a sec.
14:33:34 Kind of a late request. And since I'm gonna be out of town next Monday a week I wanted to get this before you today, just because it's we might run out of time next week.
14:33:45 So you may have heard that it's actually, I believe it's a senior project from a park.
14:33:57 Towns and students who has been working, lobbying city council for some time to install lighting at the skate park in downtown ports and they're applying to the T-mobile.
14:34:09 A Private Grant Foundation grant for $50,000, with the city to install the lighting.
14:34:20 I talked with Monty and with Mark about us, writing a letter of support for the project.
14:34:25 They were totally in favor of it. What else can I tell you?
14:34:29 I did include in here that I have known the young woman since she was a wee child, and it's just really exciting to see a project be advanced by a young person, and I think
that's worth mentioning and supporting to but we can take it out if that seems to switch
14:34:45 I really proud of the young woman who's overcome a lot to be this productive and doing more than a lot of kids. Her age.
14:34:53 It's really exciting.
14:34:54 Yes, I think cause what keeps it real, Kate. I think it's good to have it in there.
14:35:01 Is there more below community?
14:35:08 Available. Okay. Oh, it looks great to me.
14:35:14 It's.
14:35:15 As soon as Julie and we'll. I guess we need a motion.
14:35:19 Yeah.
14:35:19 Alright! Let's we'll get a motion.
14:35:24 Then public comment. Since we're just considering this for the first time.
14:35:27 I'll move to approve the letter of support for the team.
14:35:32 Mobile grants. City of Port Townsend, as presented today.
14:35:36 Second, okay, before we take action on this new letter, we will open it for public comments.
14:35:45 If anyone has a comment to make on this letter, please indicate.
14:35:49 So by raising your hand with the raise hand button or star 9 from the phone.
14:35:54 Oh, for public comment on this letter, Sina, I will close couple of comments and call the vote all in favor of signing on, as the Bspc.
14:36:13 Hi!
14:36:08 To this letter of support for getting lighting for the Skate Board Park in Fort Town indicate by saying, I bye, is this what you're going to demo home downgrad? Program.
14:36:21 Are you gonna be in the office later this week to sign it as well?
14:36:24 Okay, you like to wait or.
14:36:25 Yes, I could like I could do that tomorrow.
14:36:29 Okay, and you're sending it to Julian.
14:36:34 We'll do that right now.
14:36:37 Alright, mark you want to walk on our second walk on letter.
14:36:42 Yeah, this one is.
14:36:45 From chickeny, forestry.
14:36:58 So this is a letter to the Us. For service, and it's hoping he's requesting 1.2 million to help expand with the milling capacity reduce carbon emissions, utilize wood waste
by jobs and enhance and stabilize with product manufacturing on the olympic
14:37:19 with product and creation, and building capacity for more local supporting, developing uses for low value, wood products.
14:37:36 And so there's a yeah, this quarters of the project and providing cash materials in any kind of support.
14:37:43 And I don't I've already talked to malaria, and I'll karence it monthly about using the partial of Lynn from the mobile phone, and the export of that.
14:37:59 Of course, for the and money as an outlook, carry out a their support by saying that if they need the land for transfer station, it's expansion that will be the land temporary
use by kind of it's a temporary mail or portable mill, that's
14:38:20 going on.
14:38:29 Most probably and I also know that Cory is looking at other properties, both private properties and other county own properties, as well as part of this and I'm also working
on a similar letter letter with Congressman Kilmar's staff for his signature to the Us.
14:38:59 Forest Service Grant Program and support of this project. What is the grant for?
14:39:05 Is this the?
14:39:07 Srs. And what does this client alright, so community would energy. 23 community.
14:39:18 What energy and what innovation program?
14:39:23 So this is a better goal from the very beginning. It's to trigger energize with products, industry, and not all things.
14:39:34 Down the road.
14:39:38 And Cory's already doing projects in in county.
14:39:43 This is just expansion of his efforts.
14:39:50 Yeah, okay, questions, calls, actually, every time I drive by a mobile network.
14:39:59 And then I'm in the next call. Query, I say, what about that mill off?
14:40:00 But you know Airport Road, or whatever, and he's like, yep, that's me.
14:40:04 Hey? Well, I saw alright. Well, I'll take a motion that we'll open up for public comment.
14:40:12 I'm I move that way. Approve signing up, I removed that.
14:40:18 We send this letter and support of the Olympic woodshed project for the first 23 community. What energy and what innovation program?
14:40:28 And I'll second.
14:40:29 Okay, it's been moved and seconded because this is a new letter that was not on our agenda.
14:40:34 I will open it up for public comment before we take final action on this.
14:40:38 So anyone from the public that is with us can click, raise hand or star 9.
14:40:42 If you're on the phone to make a couple of comments on this letter that has just been up here is still up here that we are considering sign.
14:40:55 One more call for public comments on this letter we are considering submitting to the Us.
14:41:00 For Users.
14:41:02 I also mentioned that they're reaching out to a lot of farms who use a lot of wood chips as part of this project.
14:41:08 So collaboration with the Ag. Community is also part of this project.
14:41:28 I!
14:41:14 Right? Okay, so no other public comment or no public comment. I will close public comment and pull the question all in favor of sending the letter of support as that we just
looked at on the screen indicate by saying bye, okay, that that motion passes we have a couple of letters that were on our
14:41:36 agenda, including the the foreign trades, are really sty. This last week.
14:41:43 So thanks for doing some of that research on that. You want to take us through that one first mark.
14:41:52 Alright! I can share. So last week, commissioners, I think you remember, we discussed the foreign Trade zone application of the Florida. Angelis would like to submit to the
watching reports on board.
14:42:10 And we are. I think we always read. There are benefits to businesses that are located in the former principal, and that apply and become part of it.
14:42:23 We can take advantage of of the attributes that exist in foreign trade, so that won't have questions about taxes, local taxes.
14:42:34 So I discovered that there are 11 phones in the State of Washington, Seattle.
14:42:40 The Tacoma, Everett, and that again, and so I was able to contact the executive Director's office of the Board of Dunghan, who then had his foreign trade zone Administrator,
called me to answer my questions and it gave me a really good
14:43:03 education. They only have one business and their foreign transport in, and they've been informed zone for about 11 years, and I asked them specifically about local tax and implications,
and he said that he was not aware of any.
14:43:23 So that businesses in the foreign trains. Okay, taxes I was able to find the next tech size tax advisory issued by the Washington State Department of Revenue.
14:43:36 I put a couple of quotations. In the agenda request, notable of which was this one that says, activities engaged with phone trade zone or subject to state taxes in the same
manner as if the Ftc.
14:43:52 Did not exist. And then another quote finally, aside from the express preemption or property taxes in certain circumstances, there is no actual infect between the act and application.
14:44:06 Now I do believe, though, that it's a real property tax for items have an inventory for manufacturing that would be exported and that those might be exempt from from local taxes
but I'm gonna argue this if they didn't have the benefit of
14:44:26 a foreign trade zone. They might not have those products in their possession at all.
14:44:31 And and so been doing this research. And it's really that pretty much all I can say about the matter.
14:44:41 And I'm unsatisfied. There is no local technical location.
14:44:47 I'm satisfied with that, too. What's the timing on this?
14:44:52 Because the letter that we have is still just a template.
14:45:01 Hmm! I don't know.
14:45:15 In in March, the first right that that!
14:45:26 So I mean the draft. It's up there, just inserting the Ftz number and the Grantee organization port of column. I assume.
14:45:40 Yeah. Mine's only partially let me do it.
14:45:54 So I have a drop under here. Yeah.
14:45:59 Like Julie for that. Oh, yeah. So we do have a just port Fort Angelas input into that.
14:46:18 Yup. No other changes. I can see.
14:46:22 We just change.
14:46:28 So what if people think about supporting for the clown counties efforts to become a foreign trade zone?
14:46:38 I think I'm fine with it. Mark's research answers the questions I had last week.
14:46:46 Any objection?
14:46:49 No, I'm I'm just thinking is, you know.
14:46:52 Would we know if there was opposition, any opposition from any of our partners in Carl and county?
14:46:59 I would be surprised if there were. But I still a little sheepish doing stuff without knowing the lance.
14:47:09 But you know good faith efforts. Do we know this?
14:47:14 The port of Port Townsend, supporting it.
14:47:18 No p languages. I know that you had thought you reached out to the port.
14:47:22 Yeah, I'm not sure I got a call. Answer route, Aaron. They seem to end up with one.
14:47:34 Yeah. No objection noted. But you know, sort of it seems like they're pretty neutral, I think.
14:47:42 Mark was trying to get information to our more germane, to our questions about, you know, potential tax implications.
14:47:48 And such!
14:47:50 Yeah, I mean, generally, I want to be supportive of efforts in the region.
14:47:56 I'd be a little surprised if we're able to take advantage of it.
14:47:59 Given. Billingham hasn't been able to at an even smaller scale.
14:48:03 Of course, but don't wanna get in the way of them pursuing their vision, so can we support this?
14:48:12 Alright. Well, I welcome folks with Zoom client!
14:48:18 It would move to support the port of Port Angela's.
14:48:23 Pursuit of foreign trade. Zone doesn'tation for county and the Jackson County Board of Commissioner sending a letter in support of this, a new Ftz.
14:48:37 Foreign trade, Zone.
14:48:41 I'll second.
14:48:42 Okay. It's been moved and seconded to sign and send the letter of support share on the agenda request.
14:48:52 All in favor indicates by saying, Oh, well, I mean, this was already on there, but sure to have an abundance of caution. We'll ask if anyone has any public comment on this letter.
14:49:03 Click, raise hand or start 9.
14:49:07 One for more public comment. You can hit, raise hand if you have a comment to make on this letter.
14:49:13 Counties Efforts to become a Foreign Trade Zone.
14:49:20 See no hands. I will close public comment and follow the question all in favor, indicate by saying, Hi!
14:49:26 Hi!
14:49:28 Alright! That motion, passes, and we'll get that letter signed and sent off, and then we have one more series of letters these we really can't.
14:49:38 I don't think, modify the text, since we're signing on to a letter with a bunch of other and explain what we're doing here.
14:49:49 Please, do. Okay. So.
14:49:54 Executive Director of the Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission are asking in Federal appropriations to support various future sites, sound recovery efforts and I listed a number
of examples there.
14:50:09 The 3 letters cover a wide range of initiatives.
14:50:13 Including, but not to sandwich recovery. Local ecosystem recovery and biological threat and basic species.
14:50:23 Research. I can share my screen. I'm not sure.
14:50:28 You know what Mark? I have a easy way to share it.
14:50:32 If you want.
14:50:32 Very good. Good. I'm pulling out the capture so.
14:50:37 And I'm on the board what's requesting this?
14:50:41 Take questions on it, too.
14:50:45 You had me at 75 million dollars for the Duck Bush Resiliency Project.
14:50:50 Well, I'm glad to hear that. Where did it go?
14:50:55 Let me just add up the there's a a Google form that's a way easier way to kind of capture.
14:51:02 The asks, take me a second.
14:51:06 Glad to see that these get at the northwest Straight Screen Conservation Initiative.
14:51:12 I don't like continuing funding for that.
14:51:12 Oh, my goodness! I am!
14:51:25 Okay.
14:51:22 Technologically challenging day. Sorry. Just need a sec here, but there's a nice summary one page summary of all the asks.
14:51:31 We're patient, hey? Doing everything on your phone.
14:51:38 Okay.
14:51:36 And my computer now, I've got my computer here. Yup, okay, got it.
14:51:41 Open!
14:51:49 But there's like, yeah, it's just complicated working from cancer.
14:51:54 Caroline's. A lot of steps involved. Alright, I just found this an easier way to look at the summary of the different requests, and I think I am gonna go to Peter Sunday in
the hell.
14:52:11 I've gone most years as a member of the board, so we'll be able to likely deliver these in person and appreciate us, considering signing up.
14:52:27 Ready for me to scroll.
14:52:29 Yeah.
14:52:30 Okay.
14:52:33 That's really it.
14:52:45 Oh, good stuff sounds good to me.
14:52:54 I am happy to make a motion to, for the Jefferson Board of County Commissioners to sign the letters.
14:53:05 Regarding Fujit sound recovery to various Federal agencies as discussed today.
14:53:12 Happy to second, that all right and just to be internally consistent today.
14:53:17 What. We'll open this also for public comments. So if anyone virtually today has a comment on these letters which are available on our agenda today, you can click, raise hand
or star 9 if you're on the phone and we would love to hear from you.
14:53:46 Aye!
14:53:35 Okay, seeing no public comment, I will close public comment and call the question all in favor of sending these letters of support as presented today, indicate by saying, bye,
no, I never said each Commissioner will be logging in.
14:53:54 I don't know.
14:53:58 You're cutting out. But it's a Google form that I can sign us all in in support of as the Board of County Commissioners.
14:54:06 Okay, there's no physical letter. There's no physical letter. Caroline.
14:54:07 Correct, correct.
14:54:11 Okay, so I think it's funny that you just chatted that you're having hard time hearing Mike again, because he's surrounded by microphone.
14:54:18 Very slight.
14:54:19 Yeah. Yeah. Something's wonky.
14:54:23 Yeah. You know, I would love to try to work it out maybe I don't know what is.
14:54:27 We have much more stuff. As I said, I'd love to get out by 3 30 today for so I think that will see under the agenda. Yeah.
14:54:37 So I just call anything else that we need to talk about today.
14:54:43 Think about that. And I would love to recess it for 5Â min and see if we can just do a little massaging of the mics here and come back and just do a test while we have you,
and then we can address any issues that come up in that 5Â min okay, so we'll take a
15:01:16 Alright! We're recording again. Welcome back everyone we have identified our audio issues.
15:01:24 So we've streamed that out and you should be able to hear everyone clearly.
15:01:28 Sorry we had gone to our our microphone instead of our separated microphone.
15:01:34 We were. Oh, oh, okay. So the sausage making happening no actual sausage making just working on tech.
15:01:43 But we're back in session, and I'll ask Heidi and Kate and Mark.
15:01:49 One more time. Is there anything else that we need to talk about today?
15:01:53 I don't think so good business business day I don't have anything okay.
15:02:00 We got a lot done. Yup, good, productive day.
15:02:01 Hearing no additional items, I will adjourn this meeting of the Board of County Commission. Oh!
15:02:05 Okay, cool. Just one request that if there's alright, this is important business.
15:02:15 Next week, however much that can be covered in the morning would be great and glad.
15:02:18 Wendy is doing her workshop and communications, and I'm sorry won't be able to join, but I don't wanna miss a full day of the conference, and it'll be getting late at that point.
15:02:27 So I appreciate it.
15:02:31 Thank you.
15:02:29 Sounds good, alright, so we'll front load our meeting next week, and we are adjourned.
15:02:36 Have a good week. Everyone. Thanks everyone.