HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:02:04 So we'll bring over our one virtual commissioner here, and as soon as we do that we will get going.
09:02:17 She's since. Oh, she will cause the meeting just got started right. So she's got to get in.
09:02:41 Okay. Great. Well, bringing Commissioner Dean over, and then we will get started with, as we always do, public comment until 9, 30.
09:02:49 We'll keep it over.
09:02:51 So we will.
09:02:55 Wait 1Â s morning, Kate.
09:03:00 Alright! I did! Calls the order. Yes, I did. Okay.
09:03:04 So first thing up is public comment, I'll ask anyone in the room first if they have public comment. I'll ask anyone in the room first if they have public comments.
09:03:15 Yup. Good to see you my name is Cynthia Cohen, and I live in Port Townsend and represent District one on the County Planning Commission.
09:03:26 As you all know, so I'm on Wednesday we had a planning commission meeting to discuss the Planning Commission's recommendations to the County Commissioners for the upcoming docket.
09:03:40 2024 docket, and we have some exciting things that are gonna be coming your way.
09:03:48 And during that meeting we heard yet another update from staff talking about losing more staff.
09:03:58 Yeah. And you all know I have stood up here every year and more many times a year saying we have to fund that department differently, and you know the only people there are
that are there there's a 3 month, employee training a new employee.
09:04:21 And that means to me that everybody's doing the best that they can, but they are.
09:04:29 Nobody at 3 months has the skill. This is not a Mcdonald's job.
09:04:33 Where you learn how to flip the Burgers right?
09:04:37 Because there's a chart on the wall that tells you how to do your one job.
09:04:41 This is a job that requires knowledge and skill, and I think I think the planning Commission has has agreement about the concerns we have had for a very long time, and I feel
like this is the Dumpster fire that we have been warning against this is not particular directors.
09:05:06 Or managers, or employees, I don't know what your dramas about that are, but this has been going on forever.
09:05:15 As certainly as long as I've been on the planning commission, which is 8 years.
09:05:21 But as a community member much longer than that. So I don't like to hear that it's any one person's fault.
09:05:27 I think this is the natural outcome of the way that we decided to fund the Department of Community Development in Jefferson County 22 years ago, or whatever whatever whatever
year that decision was.
09:05:45 Additionally, I feel the legal lot of records. I feel like the planning commission was tricked.
09:05:51 I feel personally that I was tricked something that was supposed to resolve, not solve.
09:05:58 I can see I'm already yellow, cause I'm emotional.
09:06:02 My dad told me that when he started serving he started serving his first term.
09:06:10 He went and sat with every employee in Jefferson County employee, and I don't know if that's literally true, but I know he spent a great deal of time doing that, and I'd like
you to stop saying there's nothing you can do.
09:06:23 I'd like you to fix the funding problems and maybe it's time to get in there and pitch in and find out what those jobs are and find out the results of your decisions.
09:06:34 Thank you. Thank you, Cynthia. And as normal we'll respond to public comments after we get them all so stitch on for a little bit if we have a break between public comments,
we will respond to them.
09:06:47 But I'll go to folks online. If anyone would like to make public comments, you can click, raise hand button or star 9 if you're on the phone and we'll bring you over.
09:06:58 I'm not in yet, so you don't have to worry.
09:07:02 Okay. Seeing that we're hearing that there are no participants interested in making public comments.
09:07:09 Kate Heidi any any response to Cynthia's comments?
09:07:14 Well, this is I, Cheryl. I share probably all of your concern on this front, and have been talking with a lot of the crew at Dcd.
09:07:26 Some before they departed. Some as they were departing, some who are staying because they love their jobs and their team.
09:07:33 Yeah, and I think that's.
09:07:41 I mean, we have to trust the team that's over there, and we also have to show some leadership on their behalf, and I think we're moving in that direction.
09:07:52 There are some changes on the horizon that feel right, but when you talk about how the department is funded through permanent applications, largely, I had, I share that frustration
that you know.
09:08:07 I think we need to go above and beyond that and I don't know what that's gonna look like for us as a team.
09:08:13 But I think we're gonna be talking about it a lot.
09:08:16 And I know that all of us, at least from these, when we can talk to each other, share the concern about that.
09:08:23 That team over there and from every person I've talked to they really care about the team at Dcd.
09:08:30 And feel like they have a good team, and even the people who are left there feel like they have a good team, and they're committed to training the new people.
09:08:41 And but the company issue is huge. Yeah.
09:08:46 So that's from me. I see Kate's hand up.
09:08:51 Yeah, and bear with me. I don't have much of a voice, which is why I'm not there today.
09:08:58 I am. Yeah, certainly share the concerns. That department is so critical for the you know, really, that the functioning of of this county for for businesses and homes to be
able to develop and prosper.
09:09:14 And you know I I would say that every time Dcd.
09:09:19 Has requested additional funding for staffing or other needs.
09:09:23 This board has supported, them. We have never turned down a funding request.
09:09:26 In the 6 or 7 years that I have been here we have been willing to throw more resources and continue to throw additional resources at that department.
09:09:34 I don't think that it is a funding issue.
09:09:37 Think that it is a workforce issue that we're experiencing across the country, and especially in in rural communities.
09:09:45 We've also increased wages. Quite a lot.
09:09:48 The last couple of years for all of our employees, including their A.
09:09:53 Dcd. So I think it. It is really hard for rural communities to be able to bring in kind of entry level professionals, and when you have a community as expensive as ours getting
those folks to move here, you know, we are hiring planners right out
09:10:15 of right out of college, which is great, and yet you know the wage that that brings in is really hard to make work, and the cost of living that we have here.
09:10:25 So it's a perfect storm of a bunch of factors.
09:10:29 But I feel really strongly and proud that we have supported that department and what they have asked for and what they've needed, and we'll continue to do so.
09:10:39 Thanks, Kate, and I'll just follow up. You know I agree with everything that all 3 of you said you. You included Cynthia.
09:10:48 I think we really we do recognize that Dcd is not just a really one of the many critical departments that we have but often the biggest interfaith that residents of the county
have.
09:10:58 And so it really is kind of the the shirt tails of the county in a very real way, and we're looking for solutions to the problems and if there are many myriad problems that
I think we have to deal with, I think you know we've identified some of them.
09:11:10 And they're all nested together and really complicated way, you add in collective bargaining, and on top of that, and it just makes it even more complex.
09:11:17 But I appreciate your passion in writing this ship, and well, let's keep working at it, you know it's it's not right, and that I think money is not even really the issue, as
Kate says, we have responded byly to every
09:11:32 request and are are looking for solutions that will will help add a Dcd.
09:11:38 Thank you. And if you have specific ideas, and so I mean, come, sit with us, start with me, and let's talk about it, because unless we hear what specific ideas and solutions
are we mostly just here, frustration.
09:11:57 But when when I hear it solutions, it's it, then it the wheels get try and get on the track.
09:12:05 So that's really helpful. And I know that the planning commission has been involved in your your part.
09:12:11 You're going to be part of the solution space here.
09:12:16 Alright. Anyone else online with us that would like to make public comment.
09:12:25 Oh, yeah. Please. Do. Maybe capture is freezing up a bit.
09:12:30 So for those viewing at home. I apologize you can hop over to zoom and watch it live that way.
09:12:35 Probably get a better outcome.
09:12:41 Okay, yeah, as we do, we'll just move through the the technical problems best we can.
09:12:51 I love that as we do all right, I'll make another call for public comment.
09:12:57 Anyone out there like to make public comment. What! I will keep it open until 9 30, and if you are moved to comment on anything you've heard, or anything you'd like us to hear,
please raise your hand, you know I do I think AI can help us with Dcd I've
09:13:16 got permission to schedule something with the Scott carpenter over there.
09:13:21 Cause man, I feel like there's so much labor saving devices, so much labor savings that, hey?
09:13:28 I can do as an example. I had my big chat bought.
09:13:34 Me a dad joke over the weekend about open public meetings. Can I?
09:13:37 Can I share with you? So I said, Write me a dad joke about open public meetings, and it wrote, why don't scientists trust Adams at open public meetings?
09:13:49 Because they make up everything.
09:13:52 Okay? I asked it to make it funnier and it just added another line and they're also out of their element.
09:13:59 So, you know, even dad jokes are gonna get just a deepened and and enlarged by the the chat bots.
09:14:11 Okay, shall we? We'll if anyone does have comment, we'll come back to you.
09:14:17 But I guess we can go ahead and go into our briefing from last week.
09:14:28 Yeah. Let's do consent.
09:14:31 It's a massive. I'm glad that we have Monty here filling in for Mark Mccauley today, because this is a very public works, heavy consent.
09:14:37 Agenda, probably by design. Some exciting stuff doesn't want to comment on any of the.
09:14:47 I'll just say I was part of the interviews, and selection Committee for the community.
09:14:52 Wildfire protection, planning, consultant. And we, these people, are are, gonna be fun, really fun and great to work with.
09:15:01 That was a great proposal. Yes, yeah, really solid and deep experience.
09:15:07 So that's one thing I'm particularly excited about and one thing that we're overdue for in our community.
09:15:14 And I just love pointing out that that was with that Srs title that we really did not have another use for it.
09:15:22 Great to be able to take care of that gap in our communities.
09:15:27 Infrastructure with money that didn't have another use.
09:15:32 Oh, why don't we go ahead and bring them over?
09:15:36 Oh, yeah, and she's black over.
09:15:39 He's probably got something on the community. Wildfire plan as well yeah. And he wrote, sent us a lovely note.
09:15:48 Morning, Chief Black good to have you with us.
09:15:50 Good morning. I said, she said. My favorite acronym recently Cwpp.
09:15:56 I just wanted to thank the county for partnering on this project.
09:15:59 With all of the you know, agencies that will, you know, be impacted somehow.
09:16:05 Some way I really appreciate the mindfulness and collaboration it is gonna be really exciting.
09:16:10 As this project unfolds it, particularly I'm fascinated with the evacuation modeling that's was not originally in the scope.
09:16:20 But I'm glad we were able to throw it in there.
09:16:21 Thank you again.
09:16:26 Yeah.
09:16:23 Yeah. Thanks for being part of the selection team. Do Chief Black and Chief Black you said us a lovely note about kind of just Jefferson County employees without mentioning
any names.
09:16:35 Just coming together to help in an emergency. Would you mind if I put you on the spot and ask you just to kind of gotta talk about the theme of that note a little bit?
09:16:42 Yeah, I think sometimes we get threshold events as kind of a industry term.
09:16:49 We use. We're various emergencies around our county that require all hands on deck.
09:16:56 Sometimes they require obvious partners, like law enforcement.
09:16:59 Sometimes they involve other very important partnerships.
09:17:04 You know, public works, but we spoke about planning a few minutes ago.
09:17:07 There are planners are also really good example, but in a specific incidence we had a very significant 9.
09:17:14 1 one of it in Port Halok, and I just really appreciate this support and collaboration from the sheriff's office and public works, who, you know, kind of heard the call, knew
that that section of our district, you know, is pretty remote where we had to get to
09:17:34 and in a vein of, you know, trying to make it better even before we get there.
09:17:39 A couple of your great employees decided to res respond. Independent action.
09:17:44 So we really appreciate that.
09:17:46 Great. Thank you.
09:17:50 You too!
09:17:47 Thank you. Have a good week.
09:17:52 Alright! I'll make another call would anyone else like to make a public comment?
09:17:57 Click, raise hands, alright back to the meeting. Oh, all right, bring over Mr.
09:18:04 Hamilton, please.
09:18:12 Welcome, John, and you know the doors are open now. We miss your presence in the actual meeting, so anytime you want to come up to Port towns, and we'd love to have you.
09:18:25 And you don't have to unmute. If you come into the courthouse, too, you can just walk up.
09:18:30 Go ahead!
09:18:28 Yeah, there, you go! Alright. I figured it out.
09:18:33 Yeah.
09:18:33 Great thanks for being with us. You you have 3Â min.
09:18:36 Yeah, thank you. Good morning, everyone. And I just wanna bring up one of the things that I often talk about is, you know, the unfortunate case of mass shootings in this country.
09:18:48 There was another one this morning in Louisville, Kentucky, for bed, 1 one officer from the police department is in critical condition in the operating table right now.
09:18:59 Another one is injured, not as critical, but also there was a number of injured in that.
09:19:07 In that shooting we have yet to know about whether or not they used any kind of assault weapons.
09:19:14 It was at a bank, and they say that it was a workplace, violence, issue.
09:19:19 So either, someone lost their job, went back to, paid him back.
09:19:24 But there was also red flags with this individual, according to what the news said that could have prevented this if the red flag type of warnings were in place and followed
up on such as you know, threats coming about whatever his issue was same thing with the tennis shooting and you
09:19:46 know. A week or 2 ago what I person went into school and shot children.
09:19:53 So you know I keep statistics on these things. We're now at about about 500 persons dead, with this latest shooting from mass shootings and almost 200 children.
09:20:10 No, wait a minute. I'm not looking at that right.
09:20:14 About 200 persons, dead, and or nearly 500 people injured in mass shootings. This year.
09:20:20 Just it's only April this year. We get more than more than one mass shooting a day.
09:20:27 In this country again. We've had 13 school shootings.
09:20:32 I'm the K. Through 12 schools, and you know we're missing out.
09:20:41 You know. The gun lobbies does its job real well.
09:20:46 And you know, there's comments about loving your guns in this country more than you do your children allowing us to go on.
09:20:53 There are laws that could be on place, you know.
09:20:56 Red flag laws. Thanks for that nature that could help, that need to be put in place anyway.
09:21:02 I just wanna bring it to everyone's attention. This country is on some other civilized countries and on a country we're we're on the list to do not visit because of our gun
violence.
09:21:16 That's not a very good statement about who we are in the world, and we are the worst in the world for these individual gun violence problems and mass shootings in the you know
economically well off part of the world.
09:21:34 So just wanna bring this up again. Thank you very much, and thank you for your efforts.
09:21:41 Thank you, Mr. Hamilton. I'll make a call out anyone else like to make public comment this morning with the raise hand button.
09:21:52 Okay, seeing now one else, I'll turn to Kate and hiding any response for Chief Black or Mr.
09:21:59 Hamilton. Oh, I would just say to John, I was, I don't know where it's gone, in the last 24Â h, but I was really relieved to see that the Senate passed an assault weapons Ban
in Washington state yesterday.
09:22:12 Are the day before. I don't know. Kate might be being our closest years to the ground in Olympia might have more information on this, but I got a note from a somebody, in Olympia
that but things are moving in the right direction on assault weapons in Washington, so was grateful for that because I've
09:22:30 always thought, you know, when you see pictures of people with those I'm just always like, Oh, God!
09:22:36 So, yeah, and on Chief Black's comment about community wildfire planning, really looking forward to working through that process with them.
09:22:50 And also grateful for the collaborative nature of first responders in our community and people kind of owning their roles and their leadership in terms of first response.
09:23:02 It's just something our community values greatly.
09:23:09 Great Kay.
09:23:10 Yeah, I have to save my voice a little bit, but I can't help but I'm not weighing on the the legislation that Heidi Richard.
09:23:21 Yeah, so there's a bill that was brought forth by the Attorney General and the Governor to ban a number of types of assault weapons, and I'm sure there will be debate as to
whether that list of what is now banned is the right list or not but really proud
09:23:37 of our State for joining just a very small handful, I think 3 or 4 other States in the country that have a similar ban, so headed in the right direction.
09:23:46 Share your concerns, John, and you know every time, every time there's a shooting like this, I just think it could easily be us.
09:23:53 You know my childhood best friend is in Louisville, and I think you know these.
09:23:57 Just get closer and closer to our communities, and there's no reason that wouldn't be in Jefferson County next time, and you know how we just have to do everything we can to
prevent that kind of tragedy.
09:24:10 Thanks. Yeah. Appreciate both of the comments. And I'll just say when I was a kid and going to school, I did not naturally plan escape routes out of my school like I know my
daughter does.
09:24:22 And other kids do and I think that there's just the the weight of that on our society is of that of that risk is really causing damage.
09:24:30 So great to hear about legislation in Washington and see the courage of some legislators in Tennessee.
09:24:39 As you know, we are going to have to do something, and that's where it starts.
09:24:41 So appreciate that. And and Chief Black's good comments, too.
09:24:46 Okay, I'm making another call for public comment at 6Â min left.
09:24:51 Keep an eye out on it, and return to the incentive.
09:24:55 Kate, did you have any comments you wanted to make about the consent agenda questions?
09:24:59 So so much good work represented there. I do want to call out that I'm kind of amazed.
09:25:06 That department of emergency management can somehow write for Federal grants to fund some part-time positions and that must be a ton of work.
09:25:17 So good job there. And I, yeah, it's I'm reminded again again how difficult it is to secure Federal funding.
09:25:27 And so kudos to them for being able to put in that work to keep their clerk higher positions fully funded.
09:25:34 It's great anything else. The items 10 and 11 have to do with derelict crab gear, and as an active, active, and avid craabber.
09:25:50 I just, you know, know the value of programs that deal with all the pots that get left on the floor of our pja sound.
09:26:00 But I have a very. My captain runs a very tight ship very, very tight, 14 foot.
09:26:09 With 2 goddaughter's in it. So yeah, no, it's but it is.
09:26:14 There's a lot of crow when you're out there grabbing.
09:26:16 It's a, you know, in the summer, and you just go.
09:26:21 Oh God! How many of these pots are going to be left on on the bottom!
09:26:25 So I'm grateful for the efforts of our Marine Resources Committee and the Volunteers.
09:26:32 You know I've spent quite a bit of time with the Marine Resources Committee in the last few weeks, and you know, it's really volunteer powered, and it's powerful the work they
do.
09:26:42 So glad to see these moving forward, and then the last thing I was gonna say is recovery cafe.
09:26:50 Just excited to see support for the Recovery Cafe. It's an innovative program, and I'm looking forward to going there for lunch. Yeah.
09:27:00 Next week with Anna Mcginry. Yeah. Final payout from the Rcore.
09:27:05 Grant, and I see we have another hand raise. So what we bring over, Mr.
09:27:14 Good morning, Mr. Tears. When you get unmuted you'll have 3Â min to make any comment you'd like.
09:27:20 Oh, good morning. Thank you, commissioners. 2 things first of all, I wanted to thank you for having your special meeting last week, and for your continuing efforts to try to
convince the Transportation Department to do something a little more sensible in terms of the Mitigation for all of the the problems that we're going to have due to
09:27:42 the construction on the canal bridge, and 104 and 101.
09:27:47 So thanks for that. Second thing is, I was just thinking about something that Mr.
09:27:55 Hamilton just mentioned in his comments regarding and and Commissioner Dean also saying, Well, Jefferson County could be next Mr.
09:28:04 Hamilton mentioned that that his topic was about a workplace shooting, and I just want to remind you that you folks approved a courthouse security plan which specifically exempts
a lot of people from any kind of screening.
09:28:22 And you know, as I pointed out in my recommendations to you on that particular policy, 26% workplace violence comes from people.
09:28:32 You know. You know it's not strangers people you work with can happen anytime.
09:28:39 So you know, every time these things happen it, you know, going postal is an expression, and it's an expression for a reason.
09:28:47 It came from someplace, so you may wanna think about revisiting that policy.
09:28:51 Thanks.
09:28:53 Thanks. Mr. Keshe make another call. Got 2Â min left for public comments.
09:28:57 If anyone else would like to weigh in we'd love to hear from you with the raise hand button, or star. 9.
09:29:02 If you're on the phone.
09:29:06 Responses to Mr.
09:29:12 Yeah, I.
09:29:16 I'm devastated each time I wake up and read the news, and these are the headlines, and I I'm sensitive to the fact that it could happen in our community.
09:29:26 And I also feel like in terms of courthouse security.
09:29:29 We did a lot of thinking and deliberation about that, and made the right decisions.
09:29:36 So, but famous. Last words right, you know. You never know where the chink and the armor is.
09:29:45 Gonna be so yeah, it's unfortunate that we have to spend our time in energy thinking about these things, and that our kids have to wake up in the morning and go to school.
09:29:55 And worry about these things I'm glad that we're gonna be looking at Cornell's evacuation drills, and we had active shooter training.
09:30:07 I preferated in a few months ago, Mr.
09:30:11 Brotherton just said he did, too. So we're all waking up in the morning thinking about these things, and it's unfortunate that we have to spend any of our time on that front.
09:30:24 Anything to add Kate.
09:30:28 Let's see. Oh, thank Mr. Tears for his help, and input on the letter that we sent to the Governor and Secretary of Transportation more last week.
09:30:38 Not so that may be flew under the radar a little bit, because it was a special meeting, but, you know, just continue to make our case, and who knows if all hear anything back?
09:30:51 Seems to mostly be falling on deaf ears, but maybe good time to point out to that.
09:30:57 This the next 2 weeks, Monday, through Friday, will be very significant.
09:31:00 Delays on the Hood Canal Bridge for some testing that they're doing so.
09:31:03 Folks should plan ahead if they're planning to cross the bridge at all for some delays.
09:31:09 They're hoping for no delays longer than an hour, but that can.
09:31:12 Yeah, add to a, you know, a significant contribute to significant backup for longer delays.
09:31:19 And yeah, that and Cortez security really tried to strike.
09:31:23 Strike the right balance, and I'm you know, will we know if we?
09:31:29 Found that right balance, hey? I hope we don't have to find out, but there is a need to allow things to keep flowing, you know.
09:31:42 Many of the active shooters we've seen in recent months have been a real forced entry, and it weren't folks who are lawfully entering buildings that we're coming in shooting,
and that's that's often the case, too.
09:31:57 So it's it's just really hard to know what to prepare for it, how to prevent any potential violence.
09:32:03 So we always hope that we are striking in the get, you know, aiming for the right target.
09:32:10 Maybe I shouldn't use a target metaphor here, but in making policy we always hope that we're getting close.
09:32:17 But there's a lot of factors at play.
09:32:19 So appreciate your input.
09:32:22 Yeah, I think, I think you guys covered it. Well, I mean, they were largely a capacity issue, too.
09:32:29 I mean, we've hardened, hardened our entrance a lot.
09:32:31 We've got other other county facilities, too, of course, that we have to take care of, but I think you know most gun violence is really a mental health issue with really devastating
tools available to the public.
09:32:40 So it's working with people, and how we treat our employees and how we treat each other is a big.
09:32:49 These are all, all things, all mitigating facors. And yeah, hopefully, the additional hardening that we put to the courthouse is never needed.
09:32:59 And we just continue to to the work of the government harmoniously.
09:33:03 But you always have to be prepared and that's an unfortunate part of our our society today.
09:33:08 Okay, I will close public comment, saying, it's 9, 33, and we can.
09:33:14 I was going to ask a question about the derelict crab pot removal. Heidi. I don't know if you know this.
09:33:20 I was actually on the Mrc. When the C. Dragons came out first to propose.
09:33:24 Hey, we have this rov, this our remotely operated vehicle.
09:33:28 Can we help and are they the ones that are getting that funding?
09:33:30 Are they entrepreneurs with it? It's like the $6,000 one.
09:33:34 Is that going? The Rov? And some of it is yeah, the 6,000 or 5,600 that's going to.
09:33:45 Oh, that's great! I just love seeing our use getting in, and how they should be paid for developing those skills.
09:33:54 So that is great to hear. It's unfortunate, though, that the the scale of the problem is much larger than the the Rov can take care of right.
09:34:05 So I mean, there's hundreds of pots on the bottom.
09:34:07 And they're getting pen. The last report. So you know, finding other methods will be important and hope maybe they can find some innovations in their technology that can get
more of the pots off the bottom.
09:34:27 Great to see the upgrade to the mail server, which is kind of an emergency, and everyone in the county, I'm sure, will be happy when we move to the cloud with our exchange server.
09:34:38 And I also, Monty, I really like seeing the corporate lining being set up as a like an ongoing project that seemed like a Really, I don't know.
09:34:50 Engineering forward solution to a persistent problem with old culverts so great to see that being set up, do I have any other questions?
09:35:02 Oh, I had a question for you on the grab report for 2022.
09:35:06 I thought we had already glided down the law enforcement, diversion from 6 70 to 6, 50, or something in 22.
09:35:15 It was 6, 70, and 22 and it's 6 20 this year.
09:35:20 So that's a report on last year, 22.
09:35:23 Okay, so we're that's a report on last year.
09:35:29 22, right? So, yeah, okay. Oh, it was 7, 20.
09:35:31 Well that those are important documents to keep up on.
09:35:35 Okay, well, I think we've talked about most everything. Now, anyone I'd welcome emotion if you guys are are ready I'll make a motion to approve the consent.
09:35:44 Agenda for April tenth, 2023.
09:35:48 Second.
09:35:49 Okay, it's been moved and seconded to approve and adopt the consent.
09:35:54 Agenda, as presented all in favor, indicate by saying, Aye, aye!
09:35:57 Aye!
09:36:00 Awesome in the community. Wildfire, protection plan, props to Bridge Haven.
09:36:04 I think that's the first time I've seen the small community of Bridge Haven referenced in. Yeah.
09:36:10 Good. They're really kind of right by the bridge there, and exactly so.
09:36:19 That's good. Okay? Well, on to our proclamation.
09:36:25 We have the public safety telecommunicators, week.
09:36:31 Well. John Edner, from emergency management, wasn't previously asked to speak to this.
09:36:35 But Louie Vince is not here, so do you mind if I call him over I don't know that he's prepared. So, Hi, John, we're we'd love to hear a little bit about.
09:36:50 But no pressure you'd have to accept the promotion to panel.
09:36:55 Yeah, Kate, you wanna skip on the reading.
09:36:57 I was just gonna say, if I could skip, that'd be great.
09:36:59 Yeah.
09:37:00 I get I'll start a coughing, Jack, and nobody wants that.
09:37:04 No, save your voice. We wanna hear, yeah, so we'll alternate.
09:37:09 I'll go first. Are you ready? Yeah, all right.
09:37:13 It's a proclamation, whereas 911 telecommunicators across the State are available around the clock to answer calls from those in distress, whereas 9, 1 one telecommunicators
are also radio lifelines for police officers firefighters and emergency medical
09:37:27 personnel who respond to emergencies, and whereas 911 telecommunicators are responsible for a wide range of public warnings, including amber alerts and notification notification
of earthquakes, tsunamis, hazardous material releases, and other threats, to
09:37:41 public safety, and whereas countless lives have been saved by the prompt, effective, and compassionate response responses of 911 telecommunicators, and whereas the Washington
State Chapter, the Association of Public Safety Communications, Officials, Capco and the National Emergency Number Association Nina are Composed of Members
09:38:02 Representing telecommunications from every facet of public safety.
09:38:05 In Washington. Now, therefore, be it resolved, the Count, the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners, to hereby proclaim April ninth to the fifteenth, 2023, as public Safety
Telecommunicators.
09:38:18 Week in Jefferson County, and encourage people in this county to join us in this special observance in recognizing the important contributions of this dedicated group, approved
this tenth day of April 2023, by Us.
09:38:33 Okay. Well, I would welcome emotion. I'll move to approve the public safety telecommunicators, week proclamation.
09:38:46 Alright! I will second.
09:38:49 All in favor indicate by saying, Aye, hi! Hi!
09:38:53 Hi!
09:38:54 Oh, we still have Kate. Okay, good. Get a cup of tea, Kate.
09:39:00 Exactly.
09:39:00 I was.
09:39:05 I think a lot about Mount Walker. When I think about this, I have to admit, and that the the national news that our 9, 1, one telecommunicators that were in.
09:39:15 But they are just a critical first responders as a getting the services that people need.
09:39:22 I just we're looking for a new director for our own 9, 1 one center and their work never stops.
09:39:31 You know this is 7 day week, because 9 1 one doesn't stop.
09:39:34 Well, and I think about the story that chief Black just shared with us this morning, and if you know this, our 9, 1, one telecommunicators weren't there doing their jobs, and
our folks would not have heard from all from all walks, of first responders in our community wouldn't have heard the
09:39:51 call and been able to respond. In a quick and effective manner last week to the emergency in half block.
09:39:59 So grateful grateful for our local Jeff Kom folks and look forward to helping to find that new leader for this, that team got some great applicants, great.
09:40:15 Okay. So the next Timed item is, we have a few. I guess these are orphans of the old Bid process, but a couple of bid openings at 1030, and 1045, and we'll be talking about
the declaration of emergency the thirteenth county-based policy for
09:40:35 emergency response and potentially reporting that 110' clock.
09:40:40 But now we can go into a briefing hey? Do you wanna kick us off?
09:40:44 How's your last week? Was sure so.
09:40:51 See. On Monday, Monday I was with you guys all day, and I did not squeeze in anything extra to report on, so I had things on my account.
09:41:04 I'm looking at them. I didn't attend those.
09:41:09 So Tuesday morning I met with a one of our our Dcd.
09:41:14 Staff leaders, and had a great conversation. And really, you know, we count on the folks were there to hold that ship together in this time, but we might need to think about
going above and beyond the call of duty.
09:41:33 Ambassador to the team, because it's choppy waters over there, to say the least, trying to be politic here.
09:41:41 But maybe I'm gonna be a little less politic and say it's in common upon us to rise to this occasion with them because they are strained.
09:41:50 And stressed, and then middle of the day, I had someone tenth of 1% vendor data reviews.
09:42:04 Just I really like attending those, because I think it was some of my first meetings as a commissioner.
09:42:10 I went to some of those as I got assigned to the Behavioral Health Advisory Committee and really got my first look at some of the work that our vendors do, and I find it really
beneficial to continue going to those and hear how it's going so we met
09:42:23 with Jumping Mouse. Last time last Tuesday, and let's see who else Gabby Gifford?
09:42:34 And talking about the mobile Su. D. Clinic and inmate services.
09:42:39 I mean that and the only cap transitional housing. So the Haynes Street cottages, so that just the diversity of programs and projects that that funding is applied to in our
community is astounding.
09:42:52 And the work that our partners are out there doing is really inspiring and also effective, and that these data reviews actually show the effect of of the funding that we give
them.
09:43:03 So Tuesday evening was the Mrc. Committee meeting, and we met in well hybrid meetings, but a bunch of us were in person and at Kibbly Center, and we haven't quite got the the
Zoom Meetings working perfectly seamlessly out there.
09:43:21 Right, then. On Wednesday we had our session to talk about the letter to the Governor and Secretary Malar regarding Hood can outbridge closures, proposing yet again some solutions
that might they might consider and I hate thinking that they aren't gonna that
09:43:44 those recommendations will fall on deaf ears.
09:43:45 But I imagine some predictions that I've heard in the room this morning.
09:43:50 Her rights, so it's unfortunate. Then we are.
09:43:54 We had our strategic planning team, check-in, and we have had a ton of respons to the surveys we put out to the community.
09:44:04 I think, like 600 people. Yeah. So we've done a really good job of pushing the the survey out.
09:44:12 That's stakeholders and staff so it went out to our.
09:44:17 You know our entire staff list, which is like 350 emails and and then we had a stakeholder list that we had compiled, which was about 500 people from the community.
09:44:30 And then we asked people to push the survey out, so it'll be interesting to see the compiled results of the survey we've just been getting the date, the data on the response
rates.
09:44:41 But we also been getting a little preview in some of the comments that people are sending, and not surprisingly housing is rising as the top issue of concern in our community,
and affects everything we've been talking about today.
09:44:56 Finding, a new Jeff. Pm. Person getting filling positions and keeping people in their roles a Dcd, I mean every issue that we talk about.
09:45:07 You can almost tie it back to housing concerns.
09:45:10 So, and then middle of Wednesday and other vendor meeting, behavioral health vendor meeting.
09:45:19 Then Wednesday afternoon I met with a departing Dcd.
09:45:22 Staff member to talk about their transition and their time with Dcd.
09:45:27 And just underscore everything I just said a couple of minutes ago, and we heard from Cynthia earlier then had a Jefferson transit Finance Committee meeting in the afternoon,
and finally a Northwest States Commission Conference Planning Committee meeting.
09:45:49 I raised my hand to help with that from my role as a Mrc.
09:45:53 Member here, and then I was out on Thursday and Friday, very much needed reset, and there was something oh, but in the midst of me being gone, I was getting tons of emails and
texts about the Trust Land transfer Bill passed on Friday, so great for good news and a ton
09:46:15 of work. I have never I guess I've never flown as close to a piece of legislation as I have to this one end I just sent an email to everyone this morning saying, this, this
is the best use of the longbow metaphor I like to use of you know, always have to
09:46:30 all be growing together in the same direction for a boat to get anywhere and through the chaos and the choppy waters of the House Bill, 1460.
09:46:39 Journey the ship may it, to harbor so that's great news.
09:46:43 Yeah, so I think.
09:46:45 And Heidi, are you? Are you happy with the bill where it ended up?
09:46:48 Much better than it. There. There were moments where I was like.
09:46:54 Why did we even work on this bill? So I a lot of them ending.
09:46:57 And ramending and ramending. Give us a quick.
09:47:04 The elevator pitch about the final bill so it's a it's a bill to put the trust land transfer program, which is a program within the Department of Natural Resources which allow
them to move unproductive assets out of the timber base into a conservation status most
09:47:24 commonly the Dnr natural areas program. And that program, the trust and transfer program, since it was founded in 1,989 has always been funded by a budget proviso.
09:47:36 It's never been in statute. So this bill puts the program in statute and defines how it can be used.
09:47:44 And the biggest concern over the course. From my perspective over the course of the legislative session was the some of the interest groups, principally the forest products
industry wanting to narrowly defined the lands that could be transferred.
09:48:06 Using the mechanism, and we went through a year and a half sitting on the subcommittee with the forest products in industry, talking about how we would use the program came
to unanimous agreement and then there's we get the bill start moving through and they keep trying to put more
09:48:23 constraints on what the work group had agreed to, and it was.
09:48:29 It came down to our legislate. It came down to our Senator Kevin Mandela, working on those amendments, and you know it.
09:48:40 It was interesting because it was we'd see this amendment come, and then we'd be like no, we've got to do this way, and it was very.
09:48:48 It was a back and forth conversation through through the Senator's office, and I feel like Paul.
09:48:55 Joel was there it was, had a seat right at the table, and was very as he is very good at bringing multiple voices to legislation.
09:49:04 And so I felt like it was a good coalition in the end, but it was because we weren't necessarily talking to each other directly.
09:49:13 It was a little bit sideways getting there.
09:49:18 Felt like a little bit like screaming into the finish.
09:49:21 But in in the long run it does.
09:49:26 The program is allowed to be used for a diversity of the kinds of lands that Dnr.
09:49:34 Might consider encumbered by elevation, by shoreline issues, by no Tim, no revenue producing assets on the lands.
09:49:48 So it's it's so. It's a good piece of legislation, and I'm really proud of the diversity of the groups that came together to get it to the finish line.
09:49:56 But I've like I, as I've said.
09:50:01 As I said, I've never been as close to something like this and I've never been quite in the sausage recipe like I was so I'm a little bit I'm like huh!
09:50:12 God, I mean, yeah. Breathless here.
09:50:19 Oh!
09:50:16 Does it include a set funding level? Or is it add to the 80 million?
09:50:22 Okay.
09:50:22 It's not 80 million. It's not 80 million.
09:50:24 It's it'll be a capital budget allocation each time that it's funded a biennial allocation.
09:50:31 And this year it's in the Senate budget at 10.4 million.
09:50:36 But again our our representative. Their answer is chair of the Capital Budget Committee, and he put in about 24 million dollars for the program, and we're hoping that the program
comes out at that level because at 10 million it doesn't even get through devil's Lake which is the number
09:50:51 2 project on the list, and that's the project in quil sign. That's been on the list for about 12 years.
09:50:56 I think. So we just want to get this backlog of projects that have been sitting on the trust land transfer list for decades funded and start over with a new program that has
a lot more is a lot more robust and has has basically we'll have a manual much like the our co programs do.
09:51:15 Yes, and did I hear the carbon bill died?
09:51:21 I heard it was gasping for air, and I don't.
09:51:25 I don't know the final outcome, but you might know more than me on that one.
09:51:30 Yeah, I think Friday at the No. Was that call? They announced that it was dead dead.
09:51:34 Well, and we should send the condolence card to Representative Chapman for that, because he was working very hard on that bill very hard.
09:51:45 Good to know.
09:51:47 Alright! Well! Congratulations! On! That was a lot of work.
09:51:50 Now we know someone who can really work, go, hand in glove with the legislation as it works through and a committee of diverse stakeholders.
09:51:59 Yeah, building concepts is never easy. Alright, Kate, you wanna quickly take us through your last week.
09:52:05 Sure. So with all of you on Monday, of course.
09:52:12 Tuesday. Much, much of my week was hijacked by Covid in the house, but I was able to work quite a bit with our fairground stakeholders.
09:52:25 Although I did have to cancel the meeting scheduled for last week.
09:52:31 For fear of spreading Covid and the as fate would have it, I didn't end up coming down with Covid until yesterday, which means the rescheduled fairground meeting is this week,
and might be looking to one of you to see if
09:52:50 either of you would be available on Wednesday night to represent the county at that meeting it's at 6 30 at the fairgrounds, and we do have a proposal and a subcommittee that's
worked very hard on that's proposal to present to the all the
09:53:07 stakeholders. So we can talk about that later. But just want to plant that seed, but spent a lot of time last week trying to.
09:53:13 Can get this grand compromise.
09:53:15 Completed, which is mostly done. Still few things to hammer out, but getting pretty close.
09:53:25 Let's see another kind of sticky with it.
09:53:32 Spent some time dealing with last week. I don't know if you both heard that Kelly Watson resigned from the workforce development or STEM network that she's been doing the work
she's been doing on the Peninsula and since brought up some
09:53:49 concern with regional partners and school districts and other places.
09:53:54 Just in. You know what we often talk about is that we? I feel like those dollars.
09:53:59 Don't! Successfully get put to use here on the Peninsula, and so I think she's Kelly was very frustrated that she wasn't able to develop the kind of programs she wanted to develop.
09:54:10 So there's there's some hurt feelings going around, and some strong opinions about how we can better be accessing those dollars and putting them to use.
09:54:22 And so so stay tuned. It's I think it might he up a little bit and tend to shepherd a bit of a process there.
09:54:33 Let's see, I was not able to go to Senator Mary's community round table on Wednesday afternoon.
09:54:41 I was sorry to miss that she met with a number of leaders across the Peninsula.
09:54:46 And again I was just a little concerned about Covid in the house.
09:54:52 Thursday had a Economic Development Council meeting, and so that Edc.
09:54:58 Is, you know, still still working on stabilizing financially, but doing a good job.
09:55:05 They've got a good staff team, strong board and feels like things are starting to gel there, really nicely under Cindy strong leadership.
09:55:17 Of course, had a ongoing onboarding with the State Board of Health and a lot of issues will be coming to the State Board of Health of great interest to Jefferson County, we've
all been eagerly awaiting the new onset.
09:55:34 Septic rule, which is taking longer than they anticipated, but that we will be kind of finalizing that this year, probably by fall, and then also quite a bit of shellfish regulation
is coming up on our agenda next.
09:55:49 So that'll be interesting. See? Friday attended the Wasac legislative call good to get an update on a few bills that are still alive.
09:56:07 Some progress there with our point O. 9 Bill.
09:56:12 There were some amendments that were added and heard at the last minute, which did get it out of send it ways and means.
09:56:21 And so it is waiting on the rail in the Senate, and apparently there are a number of texts.
09:56:27 Bills that they're wanting to pushed through all at once, so say it will be kind of down to the wire.
09:56:34 We hope they get to them. And so, in the position we've been in a number of times.
09:56:40 The amendments were related to reporting Hi Marilyn, which is a concern we've heard and been trying to address the behavioral health Network Adequacy Bill did pass out of both
chambers, and so was ex feeling good about that the Federal fund
09:57:01 exchange is included in for transportation dollars is included in both the house, and to see a budget, so that just to go through the main priorities that last second, I think
I covered them all.
09:57:14 Oh, then the jail jail proviso for study.
09:57:16 That's still in disagreements Senate version of the budget funded that fully.
09:57:24 House Virgin did not, and so, still working on, trying to.
09:57:27 Convince folks in the house that if we want to modernize jails to really talk about the services that they provide and the facilities we need in order to do that kind of rehabilitative
justice that we want to do that our current jails do not allow for that so
09:57:44 if you have an opportunity to talk to our members of the State House.
09:57:47 That's an important talking point, Darren sure has been a sticking point in.
09:57:54 Yeah, so that was mostly my week. Took a good long time between my husband's covid to me, testing positive, which is such a bummer to press the reset button on quarantine and
all that.
09:58:10 So I will be out all this week, working from home, as I'm able, hoping that you know I can stay with you today.
09:58:19 But I am tired, and might turned my camera off for a little bit and manage my energy as I'm able today.
09:58:27 Okay, for you to take a sick day, even on a Monday. Kate.
09:58:30 So yeah, appreciate you being here. But we have a fairly light afternoon, and we we can talk about that.
09:58:41 Okay.
09:58:35 But I'd love to adjourned pretty early to go for going away party for my folks this afternoon, so I think we we can all get done pretty quick.
09:58:45 You still had a pretty busy week last week mine was fairly light, as I was on vacation for most of the week with you guys on Monday, you know.
09:58:56 Did got up an email and such on Tuesday postponed one meeting because it wasn't quite ready to talk about the skate Park stuff. Miss.
09:59:08 The, Olympic area, 8 agency on aging counsel Governments meeting on Thursday.
09:59:15 So you know, as it goes. I was elected chair for next year, and then parks and Rec Advisory Board meeting. I went to.
09:59:26 And was good. We had a district 3 appliance that we interviewed that she was great, so we'll probably see that recommendation on our consent.
09:59:37 Agenda the next week or 2 presented the Poc.
09:59:39 The Port Village Council meeting. I think they're gonna try to ask us to help them with a new Park public Park County Park, and I was really my week.
09:59:55 I was I was pretty much on vacation, so where would said County Park, be located?
10:00:02 Believe it would be on, a teal lake, and it would be partially a dog park.
10:00:07 They didn't. Actually, I was not able to. I had both meetings at the same time, so I did not give the the standard response which Monty has trained me on.
10:00:16 Well, no, but that it will come before us, I think, and I'm starting.
10:00:21 The emails are trickling in. So we'll continue to with that, Monty.
10:00:29 Thanks for joining us today, filling in for Mark as county administrator for a couple of days last week, and a couple of days this week.
10:00:36 But anything you wanna report on from your last week.
10:00:42 Put me on the spot here. Yeah. Wonder? No, it's been yeah, fairly quiet.
10:00:50 I think people cut me a break when I'm filling in so so that's good, because, you know, we've got plenty going on in public works.
10:00:59 My normal job with the sewer and solid waste, and marks and roads and everything else.
10:01:06 So you know. Course, roads were preparing for the summer's chips seal season will be opening bids today for some of those products, but the crew they go through a fairly methodical
list to address a number of issues along the roads prior to chip sealing broadcasting patching things
10:01:29 like that we try to be, you know, a year ahead, on our patching programs. So you know, we did a lot of work on Coil Road last year in preparation for this summer's chip seal
out there.
10:01:43 For example. So there is a a method to the whole approach.
10:01:48 There!
10:01:51 Solid waste. You know we continue the process of working with a stakeholder group on on a future capital facility, improvements or relocations to address the the capacity issues
there, and aging that facility probably gonna have a workshop with the board next week.
10:02:19 or whenever we can schedule it in the near future.
10:02:21 On the fee structure. That's solid waste.
10:02:24 So that'll be yeah coming up. I know we were.
10:02:31 Being encouraged to do a. The public works, annual work plan, workshop with the Board.
10:02:39 But after discussion with Mark, felt like public works, was going to be in front of the board.
10:02:44 A lot this year with issues ranging from solid waste to sewer, to road transportation improvement program.
10:02:53 Things like that. So it seems like we have a lot of opportunity to again in front of the board and talk about our various programs, and what we're doing.
10:03:03 And of course, members of the Board participate in the solid waste pisory committee and the Park and rack advisory committee, as well.
10:03:11 So!
10:03:13 Sewer. As you know we receive bids for the kind of the site work, earthwork phase on that project, and we got very favorable bids from some local bidders.
10:03:27 We'll be working to award that contract to the low-bidder in the coming weeks, and then that project will occur all this summer.
10:03:39 We gave them, you know, lots of time to work to build some flexibility into the schedule, which helps get good bids, as contractors need to do multiple jobs at the same time
and be able to.
10:03:51 They have the same I don't know about the same.
10:03:53 They face staffing issues as well in the contracting world, and there's a lot of work going on out there.
10:03:59 It's hard to find, you know, people to do all these projects.
10:04:05 But you know we got favorable, favorable bid from a Port Townsend based contractor that we're all familiar with. So tell us who it was.
10:04:21 And but we had some good bids from other local contractors, as well.
10:04:26 Yeah, but kudos, on splitting up the project so we could use leverage.
10:04:32 Those local bidders. So the plan for the sewer will be this fall to bid out the major sewer, wastewater treatment, plant work, and then post on the heels of that more of the
collection system out in the streets.
10:04:51 There's a lot of work going on right now that, and not many months ago it was just me and a part-time person, Bob Wheeler, and we're very lucky now to have a right away person
working with us.
10:05:06 I mean, I feel like all these staffing fines or higherres have come at just in a nic of time.
10:05:17 You know, we need a number of easements for the sewer, and we have, and we also have a full-time engineer, 3 working with us on the sewer project now, and he's doing great work
still looking for additional help.
10:05:31 Because trying to put out 20 million dollars where the work before December 2024 is.
10:05:37 Not easy, and that's our deadline to get that state appropriation.
10:05:44 At least obligated. We don't have to finish the work, but we have to have the all the contracts signed for doing things so we're trying to get most of that obligated this year.
10:05:57 In between like I said, the waste water treatment plant and the collections system itself, and then also the connections to some of the individual properties.
10:06:10 And you know each that's the smallest amount of work dollar wise, but probably the biggest amount of work time wise because you're working one on one with each property owner,
which one's a broad.
10:06:22 Each one's a project, you know, and it's complicated hooking up existing buildings to, you know, new sewer infrastructure.
10:06:30 They weren't designed around a sewer so often.
10:06:35 Building drains and drain fields are in the back of a building but the sewers now in the front of the building, so you have to bring it around, using the the low pressure sewer
system that we're using that with the grinder pumps is actually kind of helpful
10:06:51 that way, because with more flexibility and routing and don't have to slow the pipe continuously downhill, and things like that adds the complication of having to connect to
the building's electrical system that you know obviously you don't have with a gravity sewer
10:07:10 so a lot of work to be done there. What are the pieces of capacity that you'll be looking to add to the sewer team?
10:07:16 More engineer project manager, someone to take over a lot of what I've been doing, which is overall project management and.
10:07:31 Again. Just the amount of work out there is tremendous that we have to do.
10:07:39 We are making some well over the course of the summer.
10:07:42 We'll be finalizing the design of the wastewater treatment plant and the collection system.
10:07:53 Given, the the funding picture is, it looks now, and in the way we think bids will come in.
10:08:02 We're making some improvements to the design to make it a better, better project.
10:08:06 Putting rough over the over. The to cut costs back in the day when we had no money and no pandemic and no money on the horizon.
10:08:21 Maybe. And now that the funding pictures improved, we're going back and adding some features that will make it, you know, a better project that's more friendly to own and operate,
but also cheaper to operate.
10:08:34 And I mean a roof over it will be cheaper to operate long term, because it'll maintain the the the asset right?
10:08:45 But we I went out to Port Gamble. Their waste water treatment plant with Bob like over a year ago, but we walk into this building and I'm brand new to the team right?
10:08:59 And I'm like, are we gonna have a building, Bob?
10:09:00 And he's like not in the plan. And I'm like, I think we need a building or something, because it's a huge, and once you look at the apparatus it's a huge complex apparatus,
you just want it's like a spaceship and and
10:09:17 then not building it, putting it in a garage, you know, doesn't really.
10:09:22 But they do, install a lot of those units outdoors, but roof is always highly recommended, it's an improvement totally makes sense. Yeah.
10:09:38 So some things like that to, you know, we had cut things desk, I mean, we were cutting it down to.
10:09:41 We didn't even have asphalt on the road going into the plan.
10:09:42 Now now we do. We are adding sledge thickening to reduce the amount of hall we have to do of the biosolids.
10:09:52 We're adding odor control. Prior to this, we are going to rely on our large buffer and surrounding property.
10:10:00 But we have the funding to include that now in the in the plan.
10:10:08 So all that work has to be done this summer by our consultant, and to finalize the design.
10:10:16 And then the collection system, fairly simple. Out in the county roads.
10:10:20 But a little more complicated along the State highway. There, with their requirements in the room we have to work in.
10:10:27 So we've been working with the adjacent property owners on easements and it doubles as a opportunity to really talk to these property owners that will have sewer service.
10:10:41 You're trying to avoid the State highway, whatever as much as possible.
10:10:45 Yeah, we still have to cross it a number of times, and our ride away.
10:10:48 Person's been working with the dot on those requirements.
10:10:54 Alright!
10:11:00 Parks, busy as always. If he's coming with Parks, too. That's when it's something else we talked about as Advisory Board right?
10:11:08 Haven't been raised in in a while or adjusted in a while, and with Parks, you know, we always try to target a the market, you know, for the type facility we own, and what the
going rate is.
10:11:21 I mean, it's not a full cost recovery program, as you know.
10:11:25 It's quite heavily subsidized by the general fund, but you know we try to keep our fees in line with with our neighbors.
10:11:34 So Matt Tyler, the Parks and rack manager, will be discussing that with the board soon.
10:11:42 But yeah, I mean, this is the time year when a chorus parks work really starts picking up between, you know, mowing and everything, and and the usage of the parks as well.
10:11:57 And so that's a public works report, even though I know I'm acting as the county administrator.
10:12:05 I haven't had much time in the few days have been doing this too glean much information from the other departments.
10:12:12 Of course I know the struggles that Dcd. Is facing with staffing you know you're right.
10:12:20 Oh, on the money I mean the housing challenges in this county are are the the biggest issue and driving the you know.
10:12:28 We have the same, not the same. We have the issue in public works as well, trying to recruit and retain people for all levels of positions, and particularly our at. You know
our starting wage and trying to.
10:12:45 Bring people here. I mean, there's just nowhere to to live right.
10:12:50 I mean we, the housing inventory is so low, the rental inventory, and then we have the third highest Median home price in the State King counties higher, and the San Juan County,
and then Jefferson County comes in third and There's a few others
10:13:07 Hovering around the same area. But it's 600,000.
10:13:10 Is the Median home price in this county, and.
10:13:20 If I didn't already own a home here. Yeah, I wouldn't be be able to afford that.
10:13:27 You know what I mean. So unless I was able to sell a home in a equally expensive community to live in and trade in the equity.
10:13:35 Challenge. And these communities that become.
10:13:44 Dominated by a certain level of buyer.
10:13:51 So where do you find your people to drive your trucks and work on your permits and things like that?
10:14:01 You know.
10:14:06 You know. It's exciting to see the Lock sewer which will bring open up some housing opportunities, and course habitat is bought.
10:14:17 That large piece of property with the board helped with that, but it's gonna take a lot more of those kinds of projects to do it.
10:14:25 Of course I see the apartment complex going up here in town by the roundabout.
10:14:29 I don't know what those will run for, but it's certainly some inventory. Yeah, so. But at least it's some inventory being built.
10:14:37 Yeah. So that's you know. Good to see.
10:14:42 Anything else, I don't want to stop you. You're doing great.
10:14:47 I really am enjoying all the information coming out so like you, said the bid openings today are kind of an orphan.
10:14:53 We decided to just leave them on a Monday morning. But we've gone to the new system where we can open bids in the afternoon.
10:14:59 Later in the week it worked well for the sewer.
10:15:02 The bitters were very appreciative of that. It really.
10:15:09 Yeah, they really like that. And I did, you know, when I discuss that with the board, I reached out to several counties and had, I don't tell what they were doing and I was
only able to talk to a couple of them?
10:15:23 But since then Mason County reached back out to me, and they're doing something very similar to what we've gone to here now as well.
10:15:33 They open their bids on Fridays afternoons with staff like we are.
10:15:40 So I hope you know you bring the bit awards to us.
10:15:44 Can you bring those in a sealed envelope and open it with literally some of the the ceremony that we have for the anticipation and everything?
10:15:52 Yeah, we could do that better. I did. I think I I did.
10:16:01 I mean, I meant to email the board when we did open those bids to let you know what we had, what we had got there, so that you weren't waiting for a couple 3 weeks to let you
know what we had what we had so that you weren't waiting for a couple 3 weeks.
10:16:18 Yeah, I I credit you. I credit the great responses with the changed date.
10:16:18 Yeah, no, it it was really good. So of course, speaking of projects and bids, we have the project going this summer down year.
10:16:30 Neck of the Woods Commissioner Brotherton, on Snow Creek Road, with another one of our local contractors, Brucken Brock, construction from Port Angeles, will be replacing that
culwork.
10:16:42 That's falling apart and deteriorating with some significant.
10:16:50 Disruption to the folks that live on the other side of that.
10:16:54 But nothing like the Hood Canal bridge. Here there is a reasonable detour.
10:17:00 10 miles or so for the duration of that project, and the contractor we have on that job.
10:17:07 Will do it as fast as any contractor could. They're very good at that kind of work, so we have the right people on the job, for it.
10:17:19 Very exciting that took years to put the funding together for that culvert project between Fema Hazard mitigation funds.
10:17:28 Alone, people thinks public works. Sometimes people think we have all kinds of money.
10:17:36 If we did, we wouldn't be borrowing money.
10:17:39 Replace infrastructure, 20 year loan. We just paid off another loan for work we did 20 years ago on Lindsay Hill road.
10:17:50 At least the terms are pretty favorable on on that program.
10:17:55 Less than 1% interest on the public Works Trust fundraiser. That's what we're going to do with this.
10:18:08 But I think there's yeah. I couldn't tell you what.
10:18:11 Today's rates are obviously higher, but still, you know way pretty favorable.
10:18:24 Yeah, so, but plenty of you mentioned the culverts.
10:18:31 The line. That was a great a new way to take care of the aging call works for us.
10:18:39 Aligning them with the cured in place.
10:18:43 By product of heavy, thick fiberglass. It's like a boat hall.
10:18:47 It's about a half in quarter to a half inch thick, cured inside the pipe works.
10:18:52 Really? Well, it's a structural solution, doesn't help when your pipe is deemed to be a fish passage barrier, which is, most of them.
10:19:03 But for those pipes where you don't have fish use, and there are a number of them.
10:19:09 Why, why can't it be used for efficient? Because most of the pipes are Dean to be too small?
10:19:16 And then their velocity barrier, and then, once the velocity becomes excessive in those pipes.
10:19:22 During winter flows, they typically dig a scour hole at the outlet.
10:19:27 So then you have a drop as well, and those pipes, but there's still a lifetime supply of pipes that we could do with geared in place.
10:19:37 Pipe and one of our engineers is out.
10:19:43 Evaluating which pipes we can do, and discussing with the permitting agencies primarily this wildlife, you know, finding out which ones they'll agree to, let us do with that
methodology.
10:19:57 So, and I remember in the consent agenda item, it was listed as like the actual application of it was a little less than $200,000 was that for a certain number of pipes, do
you know or how may I how I guess how does the price relate to you know kind of like the work we're doing on
10:20:12 Snow Creek, where it's excavation and replacement right?
10:20:19 So we lined a pipe under Oak Bay Road.
10:20:22 It was with the last, you know. It was in November, December last year.
10:20:28 With this methodology, and it cost us about $60,000 to do that work.
10:20:35 It took one day. And to dig that pipe up would have probably cost a couple 1 million dollars plus.
10:20:45 We would had, you know, obviously, months of traffic impacts and had to relocate temporarily utilities as well that pass above that pipe.
10:20:56 So it's it is very cost, effective.
10:21:02 I mean, we ended up doing about 300 little over 300 feet of pipe for $100,000.
10:21:09 So you know, it's.
10:21:14 It's pretty pretty cost effective that way. Versus digging them up.
10:21:20 Of course we don't have that option. It's Snow Creek, because the pipe is you know, that's 200 sized already.
10:21:29 The main issue. There we have repeatedly had plugging issues at the inlet of that pipe with debris and stuff and creates a very dangerous situation.
10:21:38 So we're putting in a much larger pipe. There. Also the funding that we received is is tied to a pipe up sizing as well.
10:21:53 That cured in place pipe we would, but we have a number of other really deep culverts out there, where, if we can avoid the fish passage issue, it'll save us a lot of money
doing that so it's great product really one of your staff our staff from public
10:22:14 works.
10:22:17 John Bruce, Patterson figured that out. I mean, it's not like a big mystery, but it isn't something that's been used a lot traditionally for culverts it's starting to gain use.
10:22:31 And he was originally tasked with slip lining those pipes, but he found a cheaper, better way to do it.
10:22:42 So great work on Bruce's part.
10:22:49 Alright. Yeah, I think that's funny. So thank you. That was a great update.
10:22:54 I don't know Kate or Heidi. Do you have any questions, Monty?
10:22:58 I love all the updates, though really, really.
10:23:01 Is. Did you say Chris? Goy is in the room?
10:23:03 Yes.
10:23:05 I was wondering if we could get a little update on on our the county email situation.
10:23:10 Oh, sure. Yeah.
10:23:12 Consent agenda, and had a little issue last week.
10:23:14 It, and if you don't want to be put on the spot, Chris, that's okay.
10:23:17 But just love to know kind of what's happening.
10:23:20 Sprang up. I'm right here. Thanks for the question.
10:23:28 Hmm!
10:23:25 So a couple of factors of play with regard to the county email, first, we're operating off of a an on premises.
10:23:35 Solution that was purchased in 2013. So it's just showing its age.
10:23:41 Essentially, there are limitations with regard to storage capacity that briefly limited our ability to send and receive external emails.
10:23:51 2 weeks ago. Our team, much like the the staff member that Monty just referred to we've got some really creative problem solvers that were able to get us back in line in that
respect.
10:24:05 Last week. There are a number of security certificates that we have to regularly renew.
10:24:11 Essentially our driver's license to the outside world to verify that we are who, we say we are.
10:24:17 One got missed, and we were quickly moved to rectify that situation.
10:24:23 Fortunately it was after hours, so the impact of the county was minimal.
10:24:28 Moving forward on that particular note we're about to.
10:24:33 We already have launched service desk, which is a help desk feature for ticketing, for better transparency and higher customer service.
10:24:41 There is a embedded reminder feature that allows the entire team rather than one person and one person's calendar reminders to be notified.
10:24:51 And so going forward, not only for licenses, but so certificates.
10:24:57 Annual purchases of all kinds will be included in reminders that the entire team gets as opposed to just one person, which is one of the main features that we wanted to get
to as a result of having a ticketing solution in the first place, so proactively that's how we're
10:25:13 going to avoid the situation to which you are referring.
10:25:17 I believe that happened last week, and thirdly, we've identified a way to quickly transition to Microsoft Exchange online, which will make us much less susceptible to frankly
the vulnerabilities of having an on-premise solution it's recommended by all of our
10:25:37 it, professionals, it's considered an industry standard. It's sort of the base model.
10:25:42 There's office 3 65, which includes things like sharepoint and the ability to work off of the same document.
10:25:49 That is frankly too rich for our blood right now. But we're getting.
10:25:53 We're getting the reliable Toyota that will last us a good long while, and I feel confident that we're getting the best paying for our buck.
10:26:01 So those are. That's up for consideration today. And we'll be working with Cdwg on that project.
10:26:08 We put it out to bid, and got 5 different responses from firms in the area and we felt given Cdwg's experts and familiarity with local governments, not only in Washington but
in the Peninsula, and their capacity as an organization that they were the best choice not the cheapest choice but the
10:26:27 best choice for us to seamlessly make this transition for one of our most critical services that we provide.
10:26:33 So that's up for your consideration today. I think we already approved it.
10:26:38 Oh, yeah, great, great! Well, did you have any follow up on that?
10:26:45 No, no, that's great, thank you. I was just curious.
10:26:48 If the 3 events were related or separate, and would like, you guys are doing a great job of troubleshooting.
10:26:57 The various things flying at ya!
10:26:58 Thanks for the question we're on to be steady as she goes.
10:27:04 In the days and weeks ahead. Great, thank you so much. Alright!
10:27:08 Well, we have a 1030. Bid opening. I see. Eric and Connor have joined us.
10:27:12 Good to see you guys do. People need a quick break?
10:27:16 Or do we hold on? I would love a quick break all right. Let's just take a we'll recess for 4Â min and come back 31, just 1Â min late.
10:27:26 Okay, 3Â min is fine, too.
10:31:43 Okay. Alright, we're all back. 1031. Go ahead and start it.
10:31:48 Great, alright welcome back everyone! I will call this meeting of the Board of County Commissioners back into Session.
10:31:58 We're joined by Eric Kuzma and Connor.
10:32:01 Oh, I'm sorry if we did corner Carrie. Sorry!
10:32:05 Sorry to open a couple of bids, so without further ado, well, I'll pass it over to you, gentlemen, and glad to have you and I do want to point out this is the last time this
is gonna be happening.
10:32:15 So, you know. Pour one out, Mike, drop on your way out would be fine.
10:32:20 Yeah, she's from your web, and you have to drag the first one out for 15Â min, because the next one's not so 1045, right?
10:32:30 Yeah, so really, well, good morning, everybody. So kind of fairies. My name.
10:32:38 It works. Yeah, I'm gonna open the first bid here for the pavement, marking.
10:32:48 And this bit is from spm specialized. I'll see.
10:33:06 Oh, let's yeah. Oh, well, she's to there. She's not.
10:33:13 She was gonna go off. Video, we still we still have a quarantine.
10:33:16 I'm here. I'm here.
10:33:17 Okay, great. Thank you, Kate. And our engineers estimate is 5, 4, 2, 5, 9, 9. Thank you.
10:33:28 2 years, 542,000. 599,000.
10:33:39 The first bit amount from spm is for 3 95 per line, and for the Spcc.
10:33:49 Plan. It's in total, it's it's actually 1151,150 for the Spcc plan.
10:33:57 Which gives us a grand total of 195-88-5195.
10:34:03 As an 885 on the bid total for the 3 years.
10:34:09 For the 2 years.
10:34:11 3 years is 615,326, 1, 5, 3, 2, 0, 3 years.
10:34:27 So, Alan, you have something to add.
10:34:37 And the total altogether, you said was originally solved for 3 years is 615320 correct, and all of these yeah, the agenda item says 2323 to 23.
10:34:52 But it's 2023 to 2025.
10:34:54 Great. I'll change that on the agenda.
10:34:57 Sorry. Please proceed.
10:35:02 It says spm, or is that an acronym for something else?
10:35:06 Yes, that is an acronym for specialized pavement, marking.
10:35:09 Thank you.
10:35:21 Second bid. I'm gonna open this from stripe right?
10:35:25 Incorporated.
10:35:31 I get it on name stripe. Right? Yeah. Stripe right?
10:35:40 Alright ght no r i t e no r.
10:35:44 It. Our it? Yeah, want to just stand the full level of pun.
10:35:51 This, you know. Huh?
10:36:01 So the bid total for the 3 year contract with Striperight Incorporated is 616,891 and 20 cent 6, 1 6 8 9 1.2 0.
10:36:25 Close.
10:36:28 Considerably over the Internet, doing an analysis to make sure that they're comparable, bids right?
10:36:34 So there may be a difference in there that will come out in in the wash.
10:36:42 We had a more complicated waited at, you know, bid these previously, and then we eliminated, and we started buying the paint directly, just simplified it so we could eliminate
the color. We could eliminate the stripe type, and it was just by linear mile of paint.
10:37:00 So it dramatically simplified the process. Okay, Umhm.
10:37:10 You can use that. I would just point out, like Eric was alluding to. There.
10:37:16 That doesn't even include the cost of the paint. So you're looking at over a 1 million dollars to paint county roads for 3 years this doesn't include the West End, either.
10:37:26 We contract with the dot typically to do that. So roads ain't cheap and this is a great example of it.
10:37:35 This is work that has to be done every year to keep those stripes right is bright as possible.
10:37:44 Keep it safe. But it's increasingly expensive to do that kind of work, as we can tell.
10:37:55 Great thanks. You guys.
10:37:58 How are you gonna read some AI poetry for the next?
10:38:07 Understands clearly what a dad joke is, but a lot of people do ask me what you know, what even is a dad joke and obviously is when the punchline is apparent.
10:38:16 Alright. Let's wait for a cap in the day.
10:38:22 I wouldn't say they missed the first one. Yeah.
10:38:28 Well, that maybe computers, you know. Well, we cannot go to the next bid.
10:38:40 Opening until 1045. So we have a few minutes.
10:38:43 If anyone else has, can I ask you just about something slightly in context of this, which is striping out on Shine road?
10:38:54 And that idea, can we just would you mind ruminating on the idea?
10:38:58 Just that was proposed in the Arpa application from the shine community about making a kind of a bidirectional one car lane implied with moving the fog lines in so City Port
Townsend has done that in 3 locations so you want it North beach one kind of behind our office and then I
10:39:19 think the other one is.
10:39:26 It's an interesting idea. There's really no precedent for it.
10:39:33 Umhm. And so I think just something that's more thought before we just blindly jumping.
10:39:39 I forget what the National Engineers Handbook is that guides these things.
10:39:44 But it is it silent on this was, I don't know what the correct term is, but Fhwa had given it sort of a tentative approval, and they've since withdrawn that to given more consistation.
10:40:03 Now there's some belief that you can make it muttcd, compliant by calling it a shared road, which, by definition, apparently a shared road, is a road that doesn't provide vicycle
lanes.
10:40:19 So the entire road is able to be used by all user types, and then the dashes are just there to kind of imply where user groups may or may not be.
10:40:31 You know. But I just think that there's some yeah, I mean with, it's just hard jumping.
10:40:39 Right, I mean, apparently New England. They're doing it quite a bit.
10:40:44 Okay, do they? The side which Rose Rose might be eligible for that kind of thing by the amount of use of road gets, because it seems like I could not connect Lane Street and
Port Townson north of is it Tyler Tyler Street is a less trafficked portion of Blaine Street I
10:41:04 mean Blaine Street in general cause the upper portion has the speed bumps, anyway.
10:41:11 What they want to be. No, well, that just part of Lane Street has food by no one.
10:41:19 Commissioner on Shine road predicated on a certain amount of traffic, or I think I don't know if there's anything specific.
10:41:28 If it comes down, there's analysis, and whether it's determined to be appropriate.
10:41:34 And if it was a shared road, would it change? How Google and other mapping companies consider it as a route I don't think so.
10:41:47 It's still a road it's still 2 way traffic.
10:41:50 So you know, it really would come down to being may be a traffic coming approach but it wouldn't change the fact that it's a through 2 way road wouldn't impact the algorithms.
10:42:02 I was in Vancouver, BC. This weekend, and was writing a bike around Stanley Park.
10:42:10 I don't know if anyone has done that. But see wall, ride, it's awesome but there are portions of it on the town side where there are like the roads and Bike Lane Head lanes
bike lanes.
10:42:26 Car. Lanes are all the striping.
10:42:29 The markings on the road are very confusing, and I was like, Oh, this is chaos, you know, because you're you have like a car lane.
10:42:38 I know, going over a bike lane. It's a I was like I did not understand at all.
10:42:47 And all that green lights are blinking. No, there were no.
10:42:51 Oh, yeah, in Canada. Yeah, I get it.
10:42:54 I don't see.
10:42:58 Issue on shine, and that approach is maybe it could potentially be used for a short segment of the road.
10:43:05 Maybe where it's really narrow, and we already wanna, you know, keep people away from the edge.
10:43:10 But doing it for the entire length, or a very long length of that road, you might end up with a lot more pedestrians, thinking they have the right to walk down the edge of the
road and conflicts.
10:43:26 There, and we'd really have to think about works.
10:43:36 You know we may be at a point where we need to consider load restrictions on that road for trucks, but that's not going to do anything for the our traffic, but I've seen 18
wheelers go down that road while I can't figure out what they're doing now
10:43:52 avoiding the backup on 104, yeah, you know, and I don't know how that new roundabouts signal wise use of that road for those people trying to get around those backups.
10:44:05 But.
10:44:07 It might not help we'll have to see, and a challenge with the dot trying to get a bigger signage up there, saying something to the effect of Don't you shut down?
10:44:19 It's not really an enforceable message, so I don't like putting it on their highway, but we have a sign.
10:44:28 We finally got a sign. But it's fairly small, and as part of this roundabout project we've suggested to the dot that they include some better signage to that effect, we gotta
keep working with them there like local traffic, only kind of thing that's that's unenforceable and that's a slippery slope.
10:44:46 Because everyone wants their road to have local trackffic only, and you can find plenty of examples of cities and towns that have tried to say don't use this public road unless
you live here, and it doesn't work it's not illegally.
10:45:04 It's just doesn't stand up to challenge. But you know what really needs to happen as it needs to be really inconvenient to get back onto 104 at that roundabout like that, light
should be read for an hour.
10:45:16 That would that would treat them, that would, or something like that.
10:45:21 But I don't know how they're gonna set up the on that signalized roundabout, which, as you know, has been that projects been delayed.
10:45:29 Now until next year. So there's maybe some more time to discuss that with the D. O.
10:45:34 D before they build it. That group in shine has also gone back to the dot with the roundabout being postponed to ask them about putting turnlings in Tea Lake there and then,
also, you know if you're on the other side of bridge they have crosshatched striping at the
10:45:51 driveways right well, could we do something like that, so that when the traffic goes back a break is maintained on one.
10:45:59 Oh, 4. Think there's some logic to that Yup! Great!
10:46:01 Well, let us know how we can help, as communications continue alright.
10:46:07 Well, we've preamble enough. We we can get on with with the next bit opening, and I did not see the engineers estimate on this one.
10:46:17 The engineers. On this is a 5, 1, 3, 3, 9, 7.
10:46:23 I don't know why I write these numbers down Passport.
10:46:27 That's our job. Now, I like keeping score.
10:46:32 So it's 2 years of aggregate, and I think, if I remember correctly, we put the ability for them to extend it with certain contractual language about Cpi, and so on and so forth,
and this one's kind of the inverse of the last one which had no materials and only
10:46:48 labor. Okay, take it away, Connor. So this first bit is from Northwest rock, and they're based in Aberdeen.
10:47:06 So was it northwest, northwest Rock, Incorporated so I have a monitor between.
10:47:15 That's okay.
10:47:40 So!
10:47:45 The total amount for the 2 years is 480,000.
10:47:58 And that was for Northwest Rock.
10:48:08 The second bit, for the aggregate is from Broken Brook, and they're based in Port Angeles.
10:48:25 That broken brook construction.
10:48:30 It just says Broken Brook.
10:48:49 The total amount from Broken Brook is for 52418524118.
10:49:04 And that, those are the only 2 bids correct. Great. So you guys will take a little bit of time to dig into these for completeness and all ability to perform.
10:49:13 And we look forward to seeing the responses come back with a recommendation.
10:49:19 Alright. Thank you so much. That's the last time the envelopes, I guess, are coming.
10:49:24 Yeah, thanks. Thanks a lot for being here, gentlemen.
10:49:37 You don't get to stay in the peanut gallery for the whole day.
10:49:39 Of course, come back to the table.
10:49:46 Alright! Well, the only other time business we have this week is a 110'clock discussion of our county emergency policy, 49 22 is the resolution and a temporary policy that we
might replace that with and put as part of the personnel so until a 11 I guess we
10:50:07 haven't really looked at our calendar, and I'm especially interested, Kate.
10:50:10 If there are conflicts that you have this week, that one of us can help you out with.
10:50:15 Thank you. It's take a look.
10:50:23 I'm supposed to be in Olympia.
10:50:26 Wednesday, Thursday, obviously. And that's not gonna happen I'll be able to join virtually Thursday for legislative steering committee.
10:50:36 Bye!
10:50:33 But it's too bad. It's the last one of the year. So oh, Carolyn, we have to remember to cancel that hotel reservation.
10:50:40 I'm sorry for Ls. Me.
10:50:42 Yeah, unless unless somebody else wants to go down.
10:50:47 I have time, I would, but likewise.
10:50:50 Yup, okay. Let's see. I don't know if either of you have been approached by Long live the Kings!
10:50:57 They are supposed to do a boat tour tomorrow to see the Phillips going in on the Hood Canal bridge, and so I had to cancel my participation.
10:51:08 But if I'd be happy to tell them that one of you would be interested, they have a number of time slots available, too.
10:51:16 It's not just a one time thing, but if you'd be interested.
10:51:19 When are the time? Slots?
10:51:23 I would be, I'd have to dig up and all the email to find them.
10:51:26 I chose tomorrow at 10, and obviously, that's not going to happen.
10:51:31 So!
10:51:32 Yeah. My day tomorrow is back to back all day.
10:51:36 Yeah. But if you're interested I'd be happy to tell folks that you might wanna do another another trip.
10:51:45 It's relatively short. They can leave from that Salisbury Point Park over on the kitchen side. So it's not a far, a long journey.
10:51:55 The vote right? It sounds fun. Yeah. Well, send us the note, please, and I, if I can put it in my calendar, I would love to.
10:52:03 Hmm, okay. So Wednesday is supposed to be down in Olympia for State Board of Health meeting still have to attend virtually the let's see, that night is the fairgrounds state
of the fairgrounds meeting which would love to be able
10:52:24 to get some coverage for, and I'm sorry. I know it's a rough week with Mark gone like a lot of people are out this week, so.
10:52:32 I don't know what's what's when's your Wednesday night?
10:52:35 Look like I'm meeting it from 6 to 7, 30.
10:52:39 I have an old cab from 5, 30, 30 as well, but if?
10:52:48 You know, if someone needs to be there, there's nothing too critical.
10:52:53 So I I could. I could skip that, and joining the fairgrounds, muted.
10:52:59 I think this is a situation where one of us could, Stephanie step into your role because you've been so. You've been the holding all that together.
10:52:39 Hmm!
10:53:07 Well, I think I think that the alternative is worse, that if I were to cancel the meeting again, I think the county would lose some face, and there is.
10:53:20 We do have a subcommittee that has been working on this proposal.
10:53:24 So it isn't that I'm necessarily carrying all of it.
10:53:27 I think they will be able to present that, and it's just more important that we show that the county is engaged and paying attention, and that it was actually the subcommittee's
idea to have one of you account in my stead.
10:53:41 So they would be happy with that alternative.
10:53:45 So, Greg, if indeed, you're willing to rearrange your schedule, Jay.
10:53:51 Appreciate. I'll I'm gonna be meeting with them the subcommittee again this afternoon.
10:53:55 I will confirm with you, but I, as far as I know, we are planning to move ahead with Wednesday evening.
10:54:02 It'd be great if you could be there. It's the fairgrounds at 6, 30.
10:54:06 I think it's in the Arts and Crafts Building, because Eric sent us under construction the hospital kitchen going in.
10:54:11 Yeah.
10:54:11 Yeah, I'm happy to do it. It's important to. So I I I can.
10:54:16 I can keep accounting presence there. That'd be fine.
10:54:18 Great. Thank you. Thursday. I'll be attending Lsc.
10:54:24 From bed, even if I feel better, I have to my isolating in my room, cause my water is still home.
10:54:35 Oh no!
10:54:36 Yup, and then Friday, hopefully, I will be feeling well enough to attend the local 2020 Tab Conference.
10:54:45 That would be my my day of being sprung if I am symptom free. Also have the fairgrounds discussion on Kptz on Friday.
10:54:54 Are you planning on doing that virtually or in person?
10:54:59 Yes, if I can. Yup!
10:54:58 If you can. Okay, okay, cool. We need the plan, for if you can't, what's that? Friday?
10:55:10 It so there is a virtual option, Greg. We could.
10:55:12 You could do it virtually. Yeah. Jim already offered that.
10:55:15 Okay, yeah. I imagine I'll be in fine shape to do it one way or the other.
10:55:20 Okay, and just let the Jim know who your guess is gonna be if there's gonna be a guest, we just put in.
10:55:32 Okay.
10:55:26 Okay, yep, Linda Linda noble as the guest, we'll do.
10:55:36 And that's believe. That is my week. I will try and go to the Connectivity fair on Sunday.
10:55:45 Blue heron.
10:55:47 Yup, that's all.
10:55:49 Wait. What's the connectivity? Fair blue hearing on Sunday? I don't know why that.
10:55:53 A number of nonprofits, and even some governmental.
10:56:00 I think Willy Willie, so he's gonna be there organizations around the county who have provide service opportunities.
10:56:09 So volunteers, educational. They're gonna be kind of in one place and inviting the public to come and talk with number of different organizations to see if they want to engage
in some way.
10:56:23 It was I can't remember. If it was. You know Ben Bowerermeister was one of the planners of it, but I can't remember who he or Willie that reported on last week the that volunteerism
has not recovered since Covid, and so this is an effort to get people more
10:56:38 connected to opportunities to engage.
10:56:41 Not directed just at students, but at the whole population.
10:56:44 Yeah, exactly. No. I think it is marketed towards towards adult volunteers.
10:56:50 Okay.
10:56:51 Yeah.
10:56:53 Alright, Heidi! Can you give your 4Â min to at least get started on your week?
10:56:59 So, today, at one from one to 1 30, I have a a new thing that we've started at transit to do a board board agenda planning session before the board meeting.
10:57:12 So that's today other than being with you guys.
10:57:17 And then tomorrow I have a meeting with the Constituent who recently moved to the community, and just wants to get networked in the community and actually find a job which is
awesome because he has a house Monty, are you listening and have a community foundation have a community foundation work. Session later in the morning then I'm gonna go to the
10:57:41 pod lunch at 4 Corners, and then we have a Jefferson trits onboarding of our new board members planning session with Nicole.
10:57:53 In the afternoon, and then a tourism coordinate, coordinating council meeting later in the afternoon.
10:58:00 Forgot to mention that this evening I am sitting on a panel about a dam removal movie called Damnation.
10:58:12 It's a virtual screening of a movie. I started to Facebook.
10:58:15 If anyone's interested, but participant participating on a panel with some, and as pierce tribal leader and a commercial fisher person and myself, after the meeting for a discussion
of dam removal and salmon issues in the Northwest the other thing, I wanted to mention looking back
10:58:35 from last week is I did get a point in the public Land Steering Committee of Nico and coming out of our discussion last week I've had a grapple with having our issues reach
the radar of the National Association of Counties.
10:58:51 So, I'm biting off, probably more than I can choose. There.
10:58:54 But there I go, Yup, and then let's see.
10:59:00 Wednesday, tax Blues. Breakfast first thing in the morning, 6 30 in the morning.
10:59:06 On Wednesday we have a planning session for that job fair meet.
10:59:13 It's later. But we have a committee who's working on our participation in that job fair.
10:59:19 We have our strategic planning meeting, our weekly strategic planning check-in, have one tenth data review around the fire Cares program, which is been something we've talked
about as a board and with some of our vendors so I'm very interested to hear how that's going so
10:59:37 far this will be their first vendor. Check in, and then in the afternoon I have a meeting with the Community Foundation about planned giving and planning for how to more effectively
out reach out in our community with plan giving opportunities for all the nonprofits in Jefferson county and then
11:00:01 Wednesday evening I have an Olympic Discovery Trail Board meeting, and also a Grange meeting.
11:00:07 So, I need to do on Wednesday. That'll be a long day from 6, 30 in the morning till 8 30 at night, and then Thursday very exciting.
11:00:17 We are interviewing 4 candidates for the Wsu extension Director position, and we've selected 4 of them to move through the process.
11:00:30 And we're leaving it. It's open till filled, so we're leaving it open for now.
11:00:36 Were you happy with the applicants?
11:00:35 But.
11:00:42 Great.
11:00:40 Yeah, particularly excited about a couple of them. Yup, and then it looks like Cynthia Cohn got on my calendar to talk about Dcd.
11:00:50 Later in the afternoon on Thursday, and then my plan was to take Friday off cause my birthday is next Monday.
11:00:59 When I'm with you all. So I am gonna try and do something fun with my family on Friday.
11:01:10 Go, West young woman. Yes, so that's my weekend.
11:01:19 A nutshell, all right. Well, well done! We're 1Â min over, but we will take a pause in that and and welcome Sarah up to the table.
11:01:28 Please give you a microphone to this.
11:01:32 Lot, better.
11:01:35 Okay.
11:01:39 Yeah.
11:01:46 Okay, so this kind of complicated stuff, do you wanna tee this up for us?
11:01:51 Sarah. Sure I will, and Carolyn can jump in.
11:01:55 Anytime if you'd like to. So what we have on the agenda this morning is a matter of repealing resolution 1220, which was the declaration of emergency of the COVID-19 pandemic
repealing and replacing resolution.
11:02:15 4, 9, dash 2, which was the adopting of a thirteenth tenporary covid policy based on emergency response to the COVID-19 pandemic and to replace that with some new temporary
personnel policies.
11:02:30 So we've come a long way since February of 2,020.
11:02:34 I remember being in a meeting with Monty and the other leaders at Public Works talking about.
11:02:41 What are we going to do? Is this real? What's going to happen?
11:02:45 And so here we are today, where we've had 13 temporary policies and resolutions.
11:02:53 And today we are looking at repealing and replacing a personnel policy and the replacement personnel policy basically would just leave into leave and effect making sure people
stay home when they're sick.
11:03:12 And washing their hands as a way of disease control, and also don't touch your face yeah, I mean, I was just when you said that I was thinking, where was I have? Yeah, it was
at the maritime center, and we shut the place down.
11:03:33 And we were telling everyone not to touch their face. And, yeah, watch your groceries watching Youtube videos about watching your groceries.
11:03:42 Yeah. Sneeze in the pocket. Yeah. And then the third item of the replaced appendix.
11:03:56 I was that if they're is another emergency that would come about that I response, would be LED by Health Department or State or Federal emergency declarations Carolyn, do you
have anything to add?
11:04:11 I do. Good. Okay. So although not here today, chief civil deputy prosecutor, Phil Hunzacker, and deputy prosecutor Barbara Ehrlichman, reviewed the draft resolution and made
edits.
11:04:25 They approved this document, as is Sarah had then made another notice on the appendix.
11:04:32 I in the original agenda packet. It had 2 section 2.
11:04:38 So we just it's a scrivener error.
11:04:39 We change section to the last section 2 to section 3 under responses to state emergency.
11:04:45 I uploaded this morning right before the meeting started.
11:04:49 So those viewing at home might have seen that mistake, but we it's been incorrected.
11:04:54 Yeah, so our legal team is on the board with this version of the resolution, right?
11:05:01 I'm just asking what what are the since I didn't prepare as I was doing us for her class? What are the currently we have leave policies in place for Covid?
11:05:15 What, how does this change that, or does it?
11:05:20 The previous temporary policy included a masking requirement at first, and then it was a masking recommendation that's been, that is, no longer in force.
11:05:32 There was also the recommendation for vaccination, and that is no longer in the current policy, or would no longer be depending on board action.
11:05:42 The prior policy included temporary paid leave 40Â h of admin leave for any employee who had covid, and up to an additional 40Â h for those employees who could not work remotely,
and it included Covid prevention measures which were and improved
11:06:09 Hvac filtration systems and improve ventilation in offices as well, and that was for Covid Prevention.
11:06:18 And I think that items like ventilation, and you know how close we get to people and how we these are all aspects.
11:06:31 I think of Covid that will remain just in terms of our health and community health and health within work here at the county, and of course, anyone who wanted to would always
be able and welcome to where a mask, if they felt more comfortable wearing a mask it just would not be included in a
11:06:51 policy is that some of these policies are are going away.
11:06:58 Can I just, I guess, drill in a little bit on?
11:07:02 Stick on in the, you know. Sip means a lot of different things of course, I mean infectious diseases.
11:07:07 If, I mean there's all sorts of things I don't know. It's just.
11:07:10 It's hard to parcel little bit, and there's I mean, as we go forward.
11:07:15 If you have a bit of a head cold, do you stay home?
11:07:20 Is that sick? Well, there's no, there's no clear rule on that, and I think that an individual has to be responsible for themselves and what they are bringing into work.
11:07:36 But there's no rule hard and fast on something like that.
11:07:40 Other. The county does in our personnel manual have already is sick.
11:07:46 Leave policy and basically an employee can take off. You know, off a few days if they're sick, and in fact, we want employees to stay home because we want them to be better
and not bring illness to work.
11:07:59 But we there's no rules about when what if you have this?
11:08:05 And yeah, what the threshold is. But I guess I there's no mention of masking at all.
11:08:13 And you know, if you have a little bit of a cold or something, and you come to work, I guess we hand washing, which was there in the beginning, and proved not to be really a
very necessary mitigation for Covid is still here, but masking is not his absence entirely and i'm just wondering
11:08:30 if mentioning how masking can be used a source control for any infectious diseases as well as protecting folks, still belongs in their hand.
11:08:42 Washing does the mitigation that's available to staff.
11:08:44 And we want them to know that they can use it right.
11:08:47 Yeah, I mean that it is another area where information it would be available to staff say, Hey, this could be helpful and protecting oneself. And our colleagues, okay.
11:09:03 Could I jump in on that? Yeah, I think it would.
11:09:08 It would be great to include a a sentence in there that we encourage employees to mask.
11:09:16 If there's a question of illness or I don't feel informed enough to come up with the exact wording.
11:09:26 You know it's not just necessarily respiratory diseases, but I think, having, you know, helping to contribute to a culture where that is a really acceptable thing to do, that
people don't look at you funny if you choose to mask.
11:09:42 I would like to, you know, ensure that we keep some normalcy around masking, because of what we've learned the last few years.
11:09:53 And certainly putting a couple of sentences in a policy that you hope people read carefully, as no assurance that that will happen.
11:10:02 But I would love to add a sentence or 2.
11:10:20 I've noticed that when I put on a mask and dense like packed places right I'll put on a mask and cause I did get Covid, as people well know.
11:10:34 Now in February, and I was, you know, otherwise had never gotten in and completely healthy, and I went to a conference, and I was in a room with 4,000 people, and I'm like,
Yeah, I probably should have been met better about masking at that event.
11:10:47 But I wouldn't want people to feel uncomfortable if they masks.
11:10:52 So I think, supporting that personal decision to mask is something that would that well, here, can I ask Sarah, if we repeal the the 2 resolutions?
11:11:05 But then worked a little bit more on. On this. I would that be would the gap be okay?
11:11:14 I tend to agree that, just mentioning the options, you know, maybe instead of you know, employees must frequently wash hands like these are mitigation options for infectious
diseases that we that have improved effective and are at employees.
11:11:30 Disposal, you know, if they wish to, including, you know, I'm asking for source control, or if you are compromised, you can use a higher quality mass to protect yourself like
those we do want to encourage the culture of acceptance on those without mandating that people do anything and I mean it's not
11:11:50 like anyone. Go. We don't have the handwashing police going around and saying, Well, did you wash your hands recently?
11:11:55 So it's right, I guess so is that, would that gap be okay? I believe the gap would be okay.
11:12:05 And as you mentioned, like that section 2, instead of saying frequent and adequate hand washing, it could say something like mitigation options for preventing transmission spread
of illness, and one would be the frequent and adequate hand washing and the second would be encouraging employees
11:12:23 to mask, or that, you know, if that's what they're comfortable doing I would encourage making those edits today, because the title of the resolution is rescinding and replacing
so where we're sending one or repealing one resolution and repealing the second one and replacing it
11:12:39 so, if there's if there's gonna be a gap, are you suggesting that only approving part of this we'd have to change the title of the Resolution and then bring forward another
resolution at a later date, or we make the changes to appendix.
11:12:51 I, in session, or bring it back to this afternoon?
11:12:54 I could work on something and bring it back this afternoon.
11:13:00 Yeah. Happy. We could bring it back right at 1 30.
11:13:04 And me, you know, done with it pretty quick, if that's what the meet with.
11:13:09 That sounds good to me. Yeah. I mean, we have time this morning, too.
11:13:12 There's not much.
11:13:16 Okay, well, that's before we dig into that kind of execution of a potential action we'll see if there's any other questions.
11:13:24 And clarifications, and I'll take public comment, and then we'll we can do a little bit of word smithing before we before the lunch break.
11:13:32 Okay. Sounds good. Okay, thank you. Any other questions or comments for Sarah.
11:13:38 No, it looks good. It feels good to be at the nice and okay.
11:13:46 I'll have that draft resolution a word sent to you, so you can use that.
11:13:52 Okay, we should. We'll be taking public comment on this because we're gonna take public comment on this because we're gonna take action since we'll be changing the draft before
we actually execute it.
11:14:06 So, if there is no further comments or questions, we'll open this for public comment.
11:14:12 Now, for in the room you can raise your hand or online, you can click, raise hand, please.
11:14:17 Oh, let's put the microphone back for Steven.
11:14:27 2 and a half minutes. 30Â s warning.
11:14:35 Is that right? Look at you all trained up do these assigned right?
11:14:46 Alright, Mr. Schumacher please listen. I really appreciate you all doing such serious work to try to make this right, and to get this emergency thing settled.
11:14:57 I just I guess I would, since I was overhearing math this mask issue.
11:15:05 I do. Wanna just try one more time and say that the Cochrane Review did find no randomized, controlled trial evidence for source control that the masks actually are effective
in preventing viruses from infecting others.
11:15:23 Afterwards there was pushback, and not the authors of the reports, but some bureaucrat, or whatever at the Cochrane Review, you know, basically issued a clarification statement
saying that they were concerned that people had misunderstood the report and that the report had not addressed the possible
11:15:44 efficacy of masks to protect oneself, but did not deny that the review had shown that there was no actual evidence from randomized, controlled trials.
11:15:56 That source control was effective. You know. So I do feel like, for you know, I mean so I don't really love that idea of sort of being putting out in some kind of you know,
we know that masks are effective for source control.
11:16:12 So we encourage employees to wear masks, you know.
11:16:15 I don't think we know that, and if anything, I think we have every reason to believe they offset.
11:16:21 So that said, I really do appreciate the idea of personal choice.
11:16:25 People should be able to feel comfortable, to wear masks if they feel that that they are effective for source control.
11:16:33 If that's their opinion, or if they want to protect themselves, and they think they're wearing it in the right way.
11:16:39 So I you know one of the problems I've things in the last few years that has really disturbed me is, you know, what is health? I mean.
11:16:46 Health is a private thing. People make their own dietary choices, their own choices about everything.
11:16:52 About their bodies, but instead, it feels like it's been replaced by public health, and I understand there's a role for public health, you know, in sanitation and so on.
11:17:02 But to a large extent health is a collection of private choices, and so people should be able to make their private choices, and I so I'm glad things are no longer mandated.
11:17:13 But even the way of of public pressure. You know, saying, we know this, and if you think differently, then you must be, you know, a disinformation person, or whatever.
11:17:26 No people have different opinions, and and so, anyway, that said, I thank you for proceeding with the termination of this emergency thing, and I hope that that people can go
back to their own personal lives.
11:17:41 And you guys can go back to dealing with the actual work of the Border County Commissioners instead of a lot of these health matters that are not necessarily precisely your
bail awake no way.
11:17:51 Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Schumacher. Does anyone else have public comment on this issue today?
11:17:57 You can click, raise hand or star 9. If you're with us. Virtually you'd love to hear from you.
11:18:13 Alright, see no other public comment. I will close public comment, but I'll remind the public that we've agreed that since we are gonna be making changes to the draft, we'll
have another public comment period before we take final action I don't know if anyone wants to respond to Mr.
11:18:27 Schumacher, it just brought. Stephen was talking, and that, holding your hands up to your face like that during it was April of 2020, and someone in the community may because
there was this conversation started back.
11:18:45 Then how effective are masks and somebody in the community made a video on Facebook with a mask on and couldn't blow out a candle through the mask and that was compelling to
me because we know that aerosol transmission is a thing with viruses i'm not talking about
11:19:09 covid. I'm talking about illness, virus, and so it's hard for me to believe that masks have no role in source control for illnesses being spread, because if somebody if Greg,
sitting next to me with the flu and sneeze is a big schooluji
11:19:28 sneeze out, and some of it lands on my cheek, because he's telling me about AI before he sneezes.
11:19:35 You know I'm much more likely to get sick than if he'd been wearing a mask when he'd been telling me about.
11:19:41 Hey? I wrote his agenda for the week, so I mean, it's just.
11:19:47 It's really hard for me to believe or accept that there's no role for masks in source control because of just the basic physics.
11:19:57 You know. Yeah, but you know, couldn't blow out a candle.
11:20:05 Thank you, Heidi. Anything to add, Kate.
11:20:09 No, I'm convinced of the effectiveness of masking which is why it's been used in hospitals for a long time.
11:20:21 And so, yeah, we wanna be sure we include that.
11:20:25 I think 2, maybe, Sarah, that it might be worth calling out in the policy, and it could be in relation to this part, too.
11:20:34 Just that, you know. That reminder that it's you know there are vulnerable populations, people that that there is.
11:20:43 You know, we need to be respectful, that there are people who might have immune compromised immune systems and I don't know if it needs to be called out.
11:20:51 But just in, you know, in recognition that it isn't just about the people, the assumptions we make about the people that we work with and serve in the public, but that there
are often other factors at play that are not obvious that might pertain to people's choice
11:21:10 to mask or need to mask for themselves or for other people in their household or in their care.
11:21:19 Great. Thank you. I think that's a good a good thing to consider.
11:21:25 Is you draft that, Sarah, in response to Mr. Schumacher, yeah, we're over a 1,000 participants I'll just say that.
11:21:34 You know everyone does makes their own private health choices, but it is one of the the Board of County Commissioners as Board of Health members, and as Bscc.
11:21:42 You know, directors of the Public Health Department, Public health is absolutely one of our responsibilities, and it's a very different business taking care of the forests that
it is taking care of a tree and different decisions can be made sometimes.
11:21:56 And we definitely don't want to pressure anyone I mean, there has been pressure as we've been going through you know, unprecedented pandemic.
11:22:04 But at this point we want to make sure that everyone feels comfortable to wear a mask if they want to, not to wear a mask.
11:22:08 If that's what they want, you know I have a family member going into surgery, and as Kate says, I definitely want the surgeon wearing a mask when they are cutting them open
and getting into their insides so I think there's clearly efficacy there.
11:22:23 But we want to make sure that staff members can do it right.
11:22:28 Feels right to them while doing everything we can to make Jefferson County a safe place to work and to.
11:22:36 Okay. So we've got. Do we want to spend a little time drafting this?
11:22:41 Or should we? What I was thinking was, I could go to my desk, pull this up online and then come into the meeting virtually oh, and then we would have something to look at.
11:22:54 Does that sound great that would work? You want to rejoin us in 15Â min. You can take some time and kind of get a get a first little stab at it, and we'll see you back here
at virtually at 1140.
11:23:06 Sounds, good, great! Thank you for your flexibility, Sarah.
11:23:09 Alright, so stay with us, and we will return to this subject in a little bit, so you can also address the afternoon items.
11:23:16 Oh, yeah, you're so we all I mean, yeah, you think we can finish this morning, folks?
11:23:25 Yeah, I mean, I don't see why not? We've got a very light agenda.
11:23:31 We've got legislative update, and of course, the Nico Steering committee appointment which I already addressed.
11:23:38 But we should, you know, pay deference, and thank you for taking yet another wait on your shoulder. But yeah, let's, I guess.
11:23:46 I haven't done my briefing for this week, my calendar, and I should say, but I'll do that really quick.
11:23:53 I also have a meeting with Miss Cohen tomorrow, and we're joined.
11:23:59 The only cap exactly executive director of you. Tomorrow I will be participating in the onboarding meeting with Commissioner Eisenhower as a.
11:24:07 Jta Board, member, so not as a forum of the Bocc.
11:24:27 Submissions or Eisenhower as a Jta Board member, so not as a form of the By the way, my chair that submit we'll do some prep for the next Monday when there's a screening down
and quilting of the love and the time of fentanyl where i'm gonna
11:24:33 be a panel that's gone for a film. So it's the film panelist week for that.
11:24:38 Commissioners on Wednesday. I will get up early for the tax Blues breakfast.
11:24:44 That seems like a a great time to spend some time with some of our staff and finance committee meeting, for Orca is Wednesday morning, and then, followed by the Orca Board meeting.
We've got.
11:24:58 We're doing a big salary survey down at Orcaa Board meeting. We've got.
11:25:03 We're doing a big salary survey down at Orca as well, and I don't know.
11:25:04 Inflation just keeps on rolling. I think Cpi.
11:25:06 For the last couple of years. 27% I heard.
11:25:09 Wow, it's just it's just crazy.
11:25:11 I can't remember how many years that is. Then I will be skipping the Olycat Board meeting this week to stand in for Commissioner Dean at the Fairgrounds meeting on Thursday.
11:25:21 We have Jeff. Calm. 9, 1. One director interviews. We had 3 screens, one applicant backed out, and then we did have another applicant or 2 over the weekend as as we we might
add a couple more of those we've got agenda planning on my schedule i'm not
11:25:38 sure if that'll be with Sarah. When are when are you leaving us as a interim administrator?
11:25:46 There is. Gonna take over for Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
11:25:49 Okay, so I'll plan on meeting with Sarah. If that time works for her.
11:25:53 We don't have a behavioral health consortium meeting because we last or the week before we did the big meet and greet.
11:26:03 Then I will be attending as much as I can of the local 2028 transportation lab, and I have a meeting in this in the Chambers here at 100'clock with the Housing Fund Board.
11:26:14 Community Conversations Committee to do some training with the Department of Commerce, Andrea from Department of Commerce will virtually be here to go over some of the coordinated
entry stuff that we've been working on, and we will have final applicants for the coordinated entry
11:26:32 Advisory Council which we're required to have by our Five-year Plan on on Homelessness.
11:26:38 Take good notes at the T lab conference. If you go, both of you, because I am not gonna join for that, take a little time for yourself.
11:26:48 It's very critical, and that is my week. So why don't we jump into our other agenda?
11:26:53 Items for this afternoon, so we can just break for lunch and really break legislative update.
11:27:02 I think you gave us a lot of it already Kate, and your breakdown anything else from either of you to add, I feel a little a little guilty and a little.
11:27:10 Relieved that I did almost nothing with the legislative session.
11:27:14 This. You guys have been working so hard on it, and I feel like it's it can be a real time slack with sometimes some very frustrating outromes. And sometimes the bill gets passed
in an appropriate way.
11:27:25 So it's good to see work paying off. But any other updates or predictions for the last week or so.
11:27:32 No, I did touch on on what I wanted to share with you something that Monty and I have talked a little bit about is that we probably should give some thought to how we want to
proceed with our future efforts with our lobbyist. So Paul Barrtz just
11:27:55 Wow!
11:27:54 retired. His last day was Friday, and with the sewer funded and Upper Hill Road, mostly kind of you know, buttoned up at for the moment, funding wise.
11:28:06 The you know, we might wanna think about what?
11:28:12 Where do we want to be putting our lobbying efforts so just something to think about, we should, you know, keep in mind in the loop with Monty on that.
11:28:22 But you know our needs very well could be changing, and you know, I think we want to be intentional about how we, how we spend those dollars.
11:28:31 And set our expectations. If we want to stay with strategies through 60, you know, change our expectations a little bit.
11:28:39 Heavy, and, you know, see if their portfolio includes some of the other priorities.
11:28:43 We have so to be continued. But I think that is something we wanna think about. Soon.
11:28:49 So the timeline for that conversation, or the kind of the project layout would be.
11:28:55 First we discuss what our priorities are, and then evaluate whether 3 60 is the best agency for that that we're proposing.
11:29:05 Yeah, and maybe we could. You know, train use our strategic planning to help us think about this also.
11:29:15 You know what our priority is going to be in the coming 5 years, and I don't think it's a decision that needs to be made anytime real soon.
11:29:25 There is a replacement for Paul that we've been handed off to, and so I don't think there's a rush, but I think I would.
11:29:35 In thinking about a kind of next steps. The strategic plan seems like a good time to be at least seating that conversation.
11:29:45 Okay, no, that that seems great. Yeah. I would just, I believe, strategies.
11:29:51 Contract Extension runs out of the end of the year, although we'll probably run out of money before we run out of time, and that contract, and obviously the legislative session
will be over.
11:30:04 Soon. So you know before the next legislative session, it'd be good to see where the Board wants to go with that kind of cause.
11:30:15 I mean, if we're not using them in public works for anything but there may be like Kate says, oh, other initiatives that you want to work on legislation yeah, well, exactly,
or in partnership with, you know, other local agencies around here so just thinking about how that how that works and who's the
11:30:35 best firm to do that would be would be good, and you know, and if there were areas that public works needed, you know, help with.
11:30:47 And you know we could use public works funding whether it's roads, or Sue, or whatever.
11:30:51 But if it's not, then it would be more of a general fund, and then, where that contract lives, it lives in public works right now, and we do all the contracting and reporting
and stuff to the Pdc. And things like that.
11:31:05 So maybe the contract lives elsewhere in the future.
11:31:09 I don't know. Okay, I know. Yeah, thanks for proceeding that.
11:31:13 Can I ask you about a slightly ancillary question, Monty?
11:31:18 We can use pip funds for affordable housing projects.
11:31:22 Now right!
11:31:26 I I believe that's true.
11:31:28 Publicly owned workforce housing.
11:31:32 Very specific.
11:31:30 Publicly owned workforce housing is that? Yes, I'm wondering how much of a dearth do we have for these big infrastructure projects that pif funds?
11:31:41 Is this something that you think we can even consider to restategoryize how we approach Pif.
11:31:57 But I think we should, you know, beat them if you know if the aquatic center is moving forward.
11:32:04 Is that something that we would wanna have some help with with the lobbyist?
11:32:08 The trail projects, it does fall under public works, but you know so I think we just need to think outside of the it's easy to think.
11:32:20 Oh, this is how we've done it! So we'll keep doing it.
11:32:22 But it's a good time to kind of reconsider.
11:31:48 Big question, yeah, I agree. I think you know, obviously, housing is is a major issue, that the board the county wants to work on with other partners and that could be a focus
just exactly what Commissioner Dean said.
11:32:36 I know the aquatic center may be an issue.
11:32:41 Multi agency issue as well. And then you know the trail, of course, in in the future sewer in the future.
11:32:51 But certainly right now we're we seem to be in pretty good shape.
11:32:56 I would just, you know, good strategies. 3, 60 has then, you know, very good work for us.
11:33:06 I'm not saying, not marketing for them. I'm just saying that the use of a skilled, lobbying firm has paid dividends.
11:33:14 There's costs with it. But the the dividends have been really, really good.
11:33:21 I mean, we've I think, 10 date. We're up to about 28 million on the upper hill road.
11:33:27 Not all that's been spent, but and it's through the Federal lands access program flap.
11:33:40 Huh!
11:33:32 But the initial entry into that program was because of a process that Josh Peters, who was working for us at the time, working with strategies 360 put together a multi agency
stakeholder group and the cooperation of that group is what leveraged the attention to the
11:33:54 Upper Hill road, and those dollars and why we've been so successful on those applications over the years.
11:34:02 And then, of course, in the sewer as well, Commissioner Dean's done a lot of really good work.
11:34:10 Legislatively there, but having that, that presence in both DC.
11:34:15 And Olympia has been helpful and Commissioner Dean can probably speak to her experience.
11:34:23 Engaging with the firm you know, lobbying firm.
11:34:27 So I but I think it's been effective, you know, for the county, for sure.
11:34:32 There's also the ability to use some of the L Tech funds for workforce housing then brought up a number of times.
11:34:40 If the housing is, you know, a certain and certain proximity to transit.
11:34:48 So, for example, the Theater Avenue project, the Aka Mason Street.
11:34:53 Is right there by a transit stop. So I mean, it's something to look at in terms of aligning.
11:35:01 Some of our other sources of funding that we have regularly in the county, housing something to analyze as we move forward.
11:35:09 For sure!
11:35:12 Could I just report on a little bit of a tangent?
11:35:17 Also tangential conversation, but something that Mark and I have started to dig into, and let me just go back and say, I do agree with Monty that strategies has been great,
having a DC.
11:35:29 Presence also that is, it is related to my tangential issue, which is, that with the return of earmarks having somebody who's dedicated to help work on those proposals is also
really helpful and yeah, I think we would have been successful in getting the earmarks.
11:35:46 that we got, regardless of strategies. But it is really nice having somebody keeping dips on that, and it's prompting us again and again.
11:35:54 One thing that I think Mark and I will probably be bringing to the board is a policy decision that we need to think about, and it has come up in the the earmarks that we got
for the child care center when we created and funded the Grant's Administrator position there
11:36:17 was, an I guess. Attempt to have that be something of a cost to recovery.
11:36:23 Basically charging for the use of that person's time.
11:36:27 And so based on, I think, kind of this. I don't know if it's in our own policy, but, for example, with the earmark that the Auditors office is planning to take 10% of that for
administration and yeah, it's a $150,000 and
11:36:47 that you know pretty much covers the salary of that person for a year, and so, you know that money then goes out of the general.
11:36:57 Well, you know, basically goes into the auditor's budget, which you know that could end up being if we continued to have success with these earmarks that it could end up being
a really significant amount of revenue coming in through that office which I don't think was our intention
11:37:14 you know, I think there's some hope of cost recovery and covering that salary.
11:37:18 But you know I mean it. It could provide a funding shortage for the childcare project, and, you know, be just a big lump sum.
11:37:27 Come into the auditor's office, that is a little bit out of scale, I think, with with the intention.
11:37:31 So because, you know, it's a little bit of an unusual situation.
11:37:35 We created that position and housed it in the auditors department.
11:37:39 We need to think about how we want the revenues for that to be expended so more on that to come.
11:37:47 But it might come up sooner than later. As we try to figure out the specifically the child care.
11:37:53 Appropriation, and Michael Mark is doing an excellent job and certainly want him to be recognized for that, and his part of his work to be compensated and yet I don't know that
we need to take such a big chunk for for that, more than covers the amount of
11:38:14 time he is putting into it.
11:38:16 So maybe just changing the percent, you know, 3 to 5, 3%, 5%, you know.
11:38:21 Yup! Yup!
11:38:22 But you know, I think we're we're just dipping our toe into this grants, having the capacity for grants management.
11:38:30 So it's we should be reflecting on how it's going.
11:38:34 After a year or 2, and making adjustments to the program, and we may, if we come through the strategic planning process.
11:38:42 And we're we know that housing is a huge issue, and it's been recommended.
11:38:45 A number of times, and we've talked about it a few times about having a housing office of the county.
11:38:51 We may be able to use some of that funding to stand that up and get a position to support our housing efforts.
11:38:58 I mean, that's I'm just brainstorming on the fly. But I think I think that's the kind of brainstorming that we should be doing as a board, so that we're setting laying that
laying the track for future efforts in the county after we're gone.
11:39:16 Yeah.
11:39:17 No, that's great.
11:39:19 I should report to that the bill that allows for administration costs to be taken out of both.
11:39:27 The behavioral health and the one tenth of 1% for housing is that 1590 or (140) 614-8149, hey?
11:39:33 59. Okay?
11:39:41 You know. 6. So that did pass out of both chambers.
11:39:42 Good.
11:39:42 So there will be some additional. I mean, it's same pot of money, but some of it can be taken out for administration, so if we think about things like the housing office that
could also be partly funded through those funds now which is otherwise not
11:40:03 allowed was that?
11:40:03 And some, some counties are creating those. I mean. I wasn't Grace Harbor.
11:40:10 Somebody else. Yeah.
11:40:14 Anyway.
11:40:15 Did you hear that, Kirsten Jewel is leaving county?
11:40:19 The homeless program.
11:40:19 Oh, no! That's their their house housing program.
11:40:22 Yeah. Too bad.
11:40:22 Yeah, yeah, really unfortunate. She's going to department of Commerce.
11:40:32 Good for them may be good for us. Right?
11:40:34 Yeah, yeah, maybe. Hmm.
11:40:39 Great right on cue. Hello, Sarah!
11:40:44 Are you still? I can't hear you.
11:40:52 Hi! Can you hear me now?
11:40:53 Yeah.
11:40:55 Okay. Let's see, I'm gonna to this. Okay.
11:41:01 And okay, I can share my screen, it might take me a moment.
11:41:07 So!
11:41:11 Screen, one.
11:41:22 Again!
11:41:16 Please let me know if you see the appendix. I great, and can you hear me?
11:41:26 Perfectly.
11:41:26 Okay, great. So here's what I came up with.
11:41:31 Since we last met, and I'll just kinda read through it, and then you can all give me your suggestions on how to revise, update, include any other information.
11:41:43 So appendix, I temporary health and safety workplace requirements.
11:41:50 I've included a line at the beginning these temporary health and workplace requirements for employees are established to support the overarching goal of Jefferson County.
11:42:00 Being a place where people live, grow, and thrive. I changed the title of Section one to say, actions to help prevent this spread of disease, and.
11:42:17 Section one that would include a section that was already present, which was, stay home Wednesday.
11:42:26 It includes frequent and adequate hand washing, and it would also include a section for employees may wear face coverings while working indoors to help prevent the spread of
disease.
11:42:40 Face coverings.
11:42:48 Are recommended. Oh, where these guys are recommended!
11:42:55 Well, so I can go over this one step at a time, or just let me know what best would work for you.
11:43:04 Do we kind of move through it from top to bottom?
11:43:07 Okay.
11:43:10 I like the new paragraph at the beginning.
11:43:14 My first, I guess. Note is section one. The employees must follow the following workplace requirements, and I'm wondering if must should be.
11:43:26 But I am not adamant about that, but it just.
11:43:30 It just seems yeah hard for me to think about it.
11:43:35 Implementation of forcing people to wash their hands all the time.
11:43:39 Well, I agree with that, Greg, because we can't be policing that either.
11:43:45 So!
11:43:46 Or it's recommended. Comma, you know something like that. Yeah.
11:43:55 Sure it's fine, though.
11:44:00 Any other notes on the first paragraph, where the title of Section one Nope looks good.
11:44:06 Thanks for an improvement. Thank you.
11:44:09 Yes, my pleasure.
11:44:13 Okay. So to help prevent spread of illness and keep all employees safe.
11:44:20 Employees should follow. Sorry I'm going to make sure there's no comment here.
11:44:23 Hmm!
11:44:24 Employees should follow the following workplace requirements, and this includes temporary yes.
11:44:29 Wait. Can I stop? Is there? If if it's a requirement, is it should.
11:44:35 How about the following mitigations to help workplace mitigations?
11:44:41 Recommendation.
11:44:43 Or should recommendations?
11:44:44 Practices.
11:44:48 Yeah, either. Any practice.
11:44:58 And follow. The following is a little funny.
11:45:02 Hi! Follow what you're saying.
11:45:11 I'm sorry. I like employee.
11:45:10 Okay.
11:45:11 But then it's employees shall employ.
11:45:13 Yeah.
11:45:17 That's fine!
11:45:22 Oh, no! Utilize!
11:45:24 Well, this brings me back to what you had originally recommended.
11:45:28 Heidi, so I can't remember what it was it was to helps prevent the spread of illness and disease and to keep all co-workers safe.
11:45:37 The following practices.
11:45:42 Should be followed.
11:45:42 Umhm.
11:45:48 To help prevent the spread of illness.
11:45:51 And to keep caller, the phone should be, yeah utilized.
11:46:00 Following should be.
11:46:03 Oh, it's hard to read over there to help prevent the spread of illness, and to keep all over it safe.
11:46:12 The following practices.
11:46:15 Should be.
11:46:16 Should be followed by all employees.
11:46:20 But then it's following. Follow again.
11:46:22 Oh! Adhered to!
11:46:24 The following practice could be adhered to. Yeah.
11:46:30 So here's what I heard to help prevent the spread of illness, and to keep all coworkers safe.
11:46:37 The following practices should be, oh! Followed by all employees.
11:46:41 Should be adhered to.
11:46:44 Or utilized.
11:46:44 Hmm!
11:46:52 Thank you. The goal was to make it that it was like a recommended strategy, and not a mandatory so are we drifting back towards, I guess should should be adhered to.
11:47:06 But okay, is it here? The following practices are recommended.
11:47:14 Yeah. I'm liking that.
11:47:13 Following practices are recommended there, that it's words, I'm happy with that.
11:47:28 Help prevent the spread of illness, and keep all employees safe.
11:47:33 The following practices are recommended.
11:47:35 I it? And then, okay, no, I'm just looking at the next line. Sorry I was moving down the list.
11:47:43 Well, I really, I really don't think this needs to be in there, because temporary and seasonal are also employees.
11:47:51 Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing exactly.
11:47:56 I think too, we're also trying to keep the public safe, though employees.
11:48:02 So to keep all employees and the public say for and then the public we serve save.
11:48:10 I like that.
11:48:13 To try and get more people to come to our Commissioner meetings.
11:48:17 I worked on John today. Yeah, good job.
11:48:21 Okay. So to help prevent the spread of illness and to keep all employees in the public, we serve safe.
11:48:28 The following practices are recommended, a stay home, one sick.
11:48:37 Be frequent and adequate. Hand washing.
11:48:42 We need frequent anaequate, can it just?
11:48:45 I guess. Can I just?
11:48:51 Yeah, right?
11:48:47 Well, I think that adequate encompasses that twenty-second.
11:48:58 Thank you.
11:48:53 That sentence underneath this is redundant and a little bit contradictory, too.
11:49:02 Hmm!
11:49:09 And then here was one. This section C added, based on the prior conversation.
11:49:18 I took this language right from the language that had been in the previous appendix. I.
11:49:27 I don't know that we're actually encouraging everybody to mask win indoors, though.
11:49:33 I agree.
11:49:36 I would say.
11:49:40 Oh, I see!
11:49:34 Yeah. A second part of that sentence. The last part of the sentence face recommended.
11:49:44 I'm Floyd.
11:49:51 Well, I could just be that first line with nothing else. Employees may wear face coverings while working doors to help prevent the spread of disease, or just employees may wear
face coverings while working indoors.
11:50:05 I don't even think we need the while working indoors.
11:50:14 But I think we still need it to help. Okay. Always says to help prevent the spread of a disease above. So.
11:50:22 Yeah.
11:50:23 Hmm!
11:50:24 Yeah.
11:50:27 Do we need? Do we want bullets or numbered points? Underneath this all the other sections have have 3 paragraphs on hand, washing.
11:50:40 Well if we take out this last sentence right here on Section C, then we wouldn't have any bullet points here.
11:50:49 If I'm following.
11:50:53 Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Do we want any further clarification?
11:50:57 Oh!
11:50:58 That's underneath of Section C. Employees may wear face face coverings.
11:51:04 Do we wanna say face coverings? Let's try making a couple of bullet points.
11:51:09 Go ahead, Heidi, make a bullet point face coverings.
11:51:13 I, why are you calling on face coverings? I'm sorry.
11:51:20 Because over the last 2 years there was. Do you remember how we went through iterations of Hey in 95 and 95 cloth mask?
11:51:35 Hmm!
11:51:34 Gator. It was just all these different potential face coverings.
11:51:40 It kind of covered everything, and not just what was called a mask.
11:51:49 Yeah.
11:51:49 We could add to the face coverings or masks.
11:51:52 Okay.
11:52:00 So I think we would say that.
11:52:04 Masks present prevent the spread of.
11:52:11 Illness.
11:52:13 Right. I was, gonna say, the first bubble. It should be something infectious disease.
11:52:19 And it's respiratory in particular.
11:52:21 Yeah.
11:52:24 Respiratory infection.
11:52:36 And.
11:52:42 Hmm!
11:52:39 And so long as I've thought about this kind of stuff actually drafting it.
11:52:45 And also, like employees, may choose to wear a mask to if they are well.
11:52:57 If they.
11:52:57 For source, control, personal protection.
11:53:00 Yeah, I think, too, though that like, you know, and I'm in this because I'm asking a lot now.
11:53:07 And people think it's weird that I'm asking.
11:53:07 It's like I care for someone who's immunocompromised like. I don't want this to be a topic of conversation.
11:53:13 That's.
11:53:13 I do think that calling that out people mask for reasons of source control, protecting family, I mean, I think calling that out is in that.
11:53:24 Give Grace, and I'm not sure the best way to.
11:53:27 Yup!
11:53:33 While we're while Sarah's typing, I will.
11:53:36 To protect themselves, or or vulnerable or other vulnerable Hmm!
11:53:44 Number that members of the community who they come in contact with to protect themselves, their family, or other members, other vulnerable members.
11:54:00 Or vulnerable populations.
11:54:15 Maybe remove, other.
11:54:29 Their families.
11:54:43 Looks good to me.
11:54:49 Yeah, I don't.
11:54:52 Something like properly worn masks, or.
11:54:58 Yeah.
11:54:58 Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
11:55:04 So I have to say I haven't seen a lot of people wearing around their chin recently.
11:55:09 Hmm!
11:55:20 I think that looks good. Is there any? Is there a third bullet that anyone wants or?
11:55:29 So anything about mask, of the available, I mean, are we?
11:55:32 We're not providing masks anymore.
11:55:36 We do have a met security, but I don't know if we wanna commit ourselves to that long term.
11:55:42 Right. Put it in the policy, though I mean, if an employee wanted a paper mask, I would say that is not a huge hurdle for the county to.
11:55:54 Cross, to hurdle.
11:55:58 I'm fine with just the 2 I think just calling it out is the important thing you can and I don't think we don't want to get in too deep without another legal review as well.
11:56:07 Right.
11:56:09 Right, and I would also recommend the farther we can stay away from.
11:56:18 Like saying that we are actually able to do something or provide something. I just think that's better cause we want this document to be kind of a guidance. And I think that
what we have here really it does provide that.
11:56:41 Hmm looks good.
11:56:44 Okay.
11:56:48 Are you kind of slowly scroll through the letter from the top one?
11:56:53 I mean the policy from on the top. One more time before we consider a motion, then open for a second public comments to look at the changes that we made.
11:57:03 Okay, I'm going to the top, but I don't see it changed yet. On my screen.
11:57:08 So I think there's a bit of a delay.
11:57:11 Hmm! Looks good on our end.
11:57:15 Oh, great. Okay. So we've got temporary health and workplace requirements.
11:57:22 These temporary health and workplace requirements for employees are established to support the overarching goal.
11:57:27 Of Jefferson County, being a place where people live, grow, and thrive.
11:57:32 Section one. Actions to help prevent the spread of disease help prevent the spread of illness, and to keep all employees in the public.
11:57:41 We serve safe. Following practices are recommended. Stay home when sick.
11:57:49 Frequent and adequate hand washing.
11:57:55 Employees may wear face coverings or masks properly warned.
11:58:02 Masks help prevent the spread of respiratory disease. Employees may choose to mask, to protect themselves, their families, or vulnerable populations.
11:58:15 Sarah something. We don't mention in here, which I know it's highly variable department to department and position to position, but is the working from home is that something
that we could incorporate into the stay home when sick?
11:58:38 We do right, and we do have the remote, remote work policy which is separate.
11:58:44 Then this one, and we could incorporate that here.
11:58:50 Or reference to our reference to our policy.
11:59:01 Hmm!
11:58:54 Well, the thing, too, is, if somebody is sick, do we want them working?
11:59:03 Cause that comes to like that balance between, like someone who has, who had Covid and had mild symptoms and tested positive but definitely didn't feel like they were restricted
at all from being able to work.
11:59:20 So they could work from home.
11:59:24 And I go ahead.
11:59:24 I can say I can just say I can just say in the past I mean I'm I'm a workaholic, but in the past, if I've had of pre covid marketing back to the days, if I've had a you know,
like cold, or if I was at the end of
11:59:44 a cold. Then just like, at the beginning of a cold and sneezing.
11:59:59 What?
11:59:48 But you know I mean, there have been times in an illness where I definitely felt like I could work, but if I was sneezing, you know, maybe I would opt to stay home in this end
I didn't feel impaired.
12:00:06 I agree, and it's the kind of the old work culture versus the new work culture.
12:00:11 But I think it's a pretty delicate line to define.
12:00:15 But if we have a work from home policy, an existing work from home policy, we could just add, you know.
12:00:25 Using your judgment. Review the work from home policy. Hmm, well, I I think you know work from home is at the department directors.
12:00:35 Discretion. Yeah, discretion. So I mean, any personnel policy, and ultimately has to be implemented by each department in those department directors, and they have to do what
it takes to.
12:00:49 You know, determine whether someone's working effectively or not, working effectively, or whether they can or can't.
12:00:59 And so it's certainly an option, but it depends on a lot of factors that you can't define in a policy that could only be defined by the director.
12:01:08 Having that discussion with the employee, you know, and is, is that the consideration in the remote work policy that exists? I mean, it's referenced here to talk to your director.
12:01:19 If you're sick, you know, call in is everything. So I mean.
12:01:22 Could we just add on to that? That working from home might be possible, dependent on.
12:01:32 Conditions, or.
12:01:35 I thought. I think Greg was recommending, adding that up above, under yeah, within the first section.
12:01:41 Stay. Home. Yeah.
12:01:44 Like, yeah.
12:01:46 Please contact your supervisor immediately and stay at home.
12:01:49 Work from home options may be considered, or something.
12:01:57 I mean if we have a remote work policy it doesn't seem like we're going outside the scope of the policies.
12:02:02 We have in place to add this sentence to this, putting it there connected to the Supervisor at least so.
12:02:19 Do you mind going? Just a few minutes past 12 since we're gonna adjourn after this?
12:02:24 Hmm!
12:02:25 Is there a meeting today?
12:02:29 I don't know. I have that transit meeting. So.
12:02:31 Hmm! I don't see one.
12:02:33 There will not be a.
12:02:41 I don't think there's a meeting.
12:02:46 Yup sounds good.
12:02:50 Depending on an employee's position, they may be able to work remotely in accordance with Jefferson County's remote work.
12:02:57 Policy, perfect. I think that's perfect. Yeah, no objection, Monty.
12:03:04 No, I think that works fine there's other, you know.
12:03:05 I mean, we've had employees who have worked remotely because their spouse was head covid, or things.
12:03:11 So there's, you know, there's all kinds of reasons why that might be a effective strategy.
12:03:15 I'm doing it right now.
12:03:17 Yeah, I'm just gonna say that. But I didn't want to call you okay.
12:03:24 Hmm!
12:03:25 Okay, is there any more adjustments to this? Have we read through the whole thing?
12:03:34 Yes, we did.
12:03:32 I think we did, didn't we? Yeah, I am. I'm prepared to make a motion.
12:03:38 I I would move that we repeal resolution number 12, dash 20.
12:03:45 Regarding declaration of Emergency of the covid-nineteen, pandemic and repeal, and replace resolution.
12:03:51 Number forty-nine-twenty-two.
12:03:55 Regarding adopting a thirteenth temporary county policy based on emergency response to the COVID-19 pandemic and add, sorry with after COVID-19 pandemic with new temporary personnel
policies as amended today.
12:04:23 Okay.
12:04:25 And just sorry I'm having a hard time opening the document.
12:04:30 I will second that. Hmm!
12:04:32 Great it's been moved and seconded to repeal and replace the old 2.
12:04:39 Resolutions, with with the new temporary, or with new personnel policy addition.
12:04:46 Before we take final action on this. Since we did modify this draft, I will open it to the public for anyone to weigh in on the changes we made, or the general action that we
are considering taking right now, you can click raise hand or star 9 if you're virtual and we have no one with
12:05:03 us, in person.
12:05:08 Make one more call for any public comments on this this motion, and seeing no hands, I will close public comment, and I will call the question all in favor of approving the
motion as presented indicate by saying, Aye hi alright!
12:05:30 That passes. Thank you so much, Sarah, for your flexibility.
12:05:33 And getting this adjusted for us today, and he was hoping that Barbara, who I know, is in court today and Phillip was on a well deserved vacation, approve of these changes as
well.
12:05:44 Right. We'll be here.
12:05:42 Otherwise we might see in a couple of weeks. Okay, well, thank you so much, Sarah.
12:05:48 Alright. Thank you.
12:05:49 Sorry. Can you send that to me? Please?
12:05:51 I will!
12:05:54 Okay. The last thing is just congratulations.
12:05:59 I'm reading through the Nico letter to Commissioner Eisenhower.
12:06:02 Now for stepping up for public lands, steering committee, steer them in the right way.
12:06:08 Would you? Yeah. So my, only they. So then I go to these conferences right?
12:06:16 Kate Monthly Conference. Calls monthly conference calls, and these 2, and the other one, I'd like to know, is right, Kate.
12:06:27 Monthly Conference calls, monthly conference calls, and these 2, and attend.
12:06:28 Have. You haven't participated in one of these, have you?
12:06:32 Have you participated in one of these subcommittees?
12:06:35 I've not. Nope! Yup!
12:06:36 Okay, hey? Alright. Well, thanks for stepping up. Commissioner.
12:06:44 Okay. Okay, where's Travis County?
12:06:47 We should think about if that if it will require a change to our travel budget, just because that will come out of our budget.
12:06:54 Right. I did. I did fish around last week for any kind of wasack or nico support, and apparently there isn't for these during committees important to have our voice.
12:07:04 Yeah.
12:07:06 There, I'll skip a conference so you can go.
12:07:11 Hmm!
12:07:10 How about that? Okay, okay, thanks. I'm happy to that. Thanks, guys. Where's Travis County? Someone tell me for Travis County, is it?
12:07:19 Is that the wir?
12:07:23 It's the Summer Conference, Nico.
12:07:26 It's I think it's Utah.
12:07:31 Oh, it's Texas. Okay.
12:07:29 Travis, County, Texas, I think it's on the south.
12:07:36 Oh, it's around! Oh, good barbecue! Good music!
12:07:41 Alright! Well, have a great time. Okay? Well, we're gonna take it easy on Monty today, and adjourn in a moment.
12:07:51 But anything else for that good of the order. No, I'm dying over here yeah. I know we're over a 1,000 parts per 1 million.
12:07:58 You're lucky you're at home gate, falling asleep on the dais.
12:07:58 Hmm, yeah. Well, I'm falling asleep here.
12:08:05 So the company.
12:08:05 Alright. Well, thank you for sticking with us here, Trooper. Alright!
12:08:10 I hope you feel better and if there's nothing for the good of the order, this meeting for the April tenth board of County Commissioners meeting is adjourned. I have a great
week.