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HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:00:44 Alright! Good morning, everyone! I will call this April 20. 09:00:48 Fourth meeting of the Board of County Commissioners to order great to have folks in the Chamber with us. 09:00:53 I appreciate you being here, it's always yeah. 09:00:55 Makes it feel like a real event. So we have a full agenda. 09:01:00 I'm guessing some people are here for the t o'clock item. 09:01:02 We'll have a public comment before that. 100'clock agenda. 09:01:05 Item about the enthusiasm as well, but we always start our day with 30 min of public comment. 09:01:12 So we'll start in the room and then go to online but anyone would like to make public comment about any topic for up to 3 min indicate. 09:01:19 So now we'd love to hear from you. Is there anyone here that wants to make public comment? 09:01:24 Yup! Please come on up to the microphone, Umhm. 09:01:31 So, oh, and just make sure you talk in the microphone so everyone can hear I'm a 1 min version, but I'll try my microphone so everyone can hear. I have a 1 min version. 09:01:44 But I'll try for my 3 min. Okay, so thank you. Morning. 09:01:45 My name is Suzanne Marlin, and I'm from Port Llow, and I strongly support passing the resolution on endpoints as a registered nurse with 40 retired register, nurse, with 40 retired register nurse with 44 decades 09:01:53 of and hospital administration in several States in this country. I was a witness to the effects of what the Fif Year War on drugs did to our society. 09:02:03 Countless humans suffered from depression, anxiety, Ptsd and other diagnoses with self-medicating behaviors that with using very harmful high-risk, addictive substances like heroin crack and cocaine without relief from their underlying torment of 09:02:18 their conditions. These behaviors only led to higher rates of suicide, violent crime, and incarceration over the years. 09:02:27 I witnessed the closure the decline in treatment centers available for mental health and substance abuse and due to declining, funding and the lack of effective treatment for these disorders by traditional therapies, and the poor success rate of pharmaceutical drugs which brings me to my 09:02:44 passion. Plea for support of this resolution. We hope and desire for the change and potential for transformation of human consciousness, for individuals, and our community with the responsible and intentional use of entangents. 09:02:59 They've been studied in many, many trials and are showing great relief. 09:03:04 They're non addictive and naturally occurring, and in a safe and supportive community we can help individuals and our collective community. 09:03:15 My personal interest is as a certified death dealer, and conscious signed coach I would like to see our aging population be able to explore their relationship to dying, and a have an expanded perspective to approach the end of life with less fear and anxiety we would like to be able to support 09:03:37 our community with education and engaged integration of experiences. 09:03:41 And the ability to support members of our community, and I would not support any measure that only promotes legalization without decriminalization due to the availability to only the wealthiest populations when it is sought in criminal commercialization and profit those suffering the most would be unable 09:04:02 to afford it. Thank you. Thank you very much, Suzanne, and just to let everyone know we listen to all the public comments. 09:04:10 I'll take that. Thank you. And then we'll respond after we hear the public coms. 09:04:14 So who else today would like to make public on it? Please come up to the microphone. 09:04:21 So! 09:04:27 Right? Okay. I don't. I just. I'm let me. I'm sorry. 09:04:32 I just wanted to pass on Carolyn's comment, too, that we will have the prosecutor's office and legal with us at the 100'clock, when we consider the resolution. 09:04:38 So please thank I'm presently a massage therapist. 09:04:49 I live in Portland Commissioners, Brotherton, Eisenhower and I strongly support the Ptps resolution regarding decriminalizing and the Agents. 09:05:00 I've only been in port a little over 6 months, but my involvement in the Ptps support towns and psychedelic systems has become important. 09:05:10 Volunteer work for me. Our focus is on education, advocacy and building community around the safe and responsible use of these. 09:05:19 So I helped organize our end of life, death, care, symposium. 09:05:25 In November of 2022, the interest in and support for that event became clear when we initially, how does space reserved for 40 people? 09:05:35 And within a day or 2 we got a space for 150, and within another day we were maxed out at over 250. 09:05:45 So there is a lot of interest in this audience. Members included families with children, and my 89 year old father-in-law we're not a bunch of hippies looking to get high. 09:05:58 My friends and family, who are interested in learning more about the healing benefits of Anthea. 09:06:03 Gen's, which is the word I didn't even know and can barely pronounce, but I had never heard. 09:06:09 6 months ago, we're interested in learning more about the healing benefits of Nfa. 09:06:14 Genes. And are these? We are people like me. One improve our present quality of life, and have the freedom to use these products as we reach the end of our lives. 09:06:24 It is established that responsible use of antheogens has positive effects on the brain, decreases inflammation, and I can personally attest that they have already helped with my Ptsd. 09:06:36 Anxiety, depression, and my fears around aging and death. 09:06:41 Last week I met people at a composting class in Port Townsend who were thrilled that the port towns in likeedelic society was coming to speak to their little retirement. 09:06:53 Community about the use of psychedelics at this stage of life. 09:06:58 There's wide support in the county for making sure that residents can learn about these substances and use them without without concerns of legal rams. 09:07:10 I'd like to also respectfully say that I want you to remember that you are responsible to constituents like me, not to some other politicians. 09:07:19 Political appointees, or members of law enforcement, that law enforcement, hierarchy in our county and State. 09:07:25 Please serve your county residents who are making this riskful request for the sole purpose of improving their lives and the lives of those in our community. 09:07:35 Respectfully. Thank you for your time and consideration. 09:07:39 Thank you very much. 09:07:42 Anyhow, in the room. That would I have to make public comment this morning? 09:07:50 Yeah. Hmm. 09:07:54 Good morning, morning, everyone. My name is Rebecca. 09:08:01 Alertiki and I have lived in this community for the past. 09:08:07 This is my thirteenth year. On and off and I've served and growing up in this community in many different ways. 09:08:14 But I came here as a foster youth, so that was my introduction into this community, and through a journey of healing, and with these medicines I have been able to come back and serve the homeless population. 09:08:34 The foster youth, population, and the people of the port Town and Psychedelic Society, who are seeking these plant medicines as a way to heal as a way to discover ourselves in a world that is broken, and as a way to come together more authentically and more wholeheartedly so there's a lot 09:08:55 that I could say sort of about the the benefits of these substances to which I hope that all of us have been educated on the uses towards healing postmarks, stress, disorder, healing addiction, and using these substances in end of life transition. 09:09:13 So I'm mostly just here to speak from the heart and just share that I wish so badly that you could see what goes on behind the doors that I get to walk into, and so many of us get to walk into the conversations around how to heal and how to be in 09:09:34 this world in a way that isn't harmful, and how to address each other with care. 09:09:42 And and I think, back to my younger years as a college student, and how ignorant we were exploring these substances, and how, in a small town I know that there are behavior, there are ignorant behaviors in these plant medicines, especially for the younger population, because it is a small town and 09:10:06 there's not a lot. And so I think this community that we formed can help address. 09:10:12 Not only that, but the full spectrum of aging the full spectrum of life. 09:10:17 And I know that if this knowledge would have been accessible to some of my peers back back in that day in time, some of them might not have dropped out of college, some of them might have used these substances in a way that was more conducive to a livelihood rather than just 09:10:40 you know youthfulness, and so I'm here just to kind of represent this spectrum of just the community. 09:10:50 And just say that I support the resolution to decriminalize entthe engines. 09:10:54 So thank you so much for your time. Yeah, I look forward to continuing this conversation. 09:11:00 Thanks. Rebecca! 09:11:03 Anyone else in the room that would like to make comments this morning. 09:11:06 Please come on up! Hmm! 09:11:12 My name is Keith. I live here. I'm also in the healthcare world. 09:11:18 I, yeah, just appreciate being healthy nature, connected, awesome educator. 09:11:24 To children and adults alike. And yeah, I wanted to speak more from like the statistical point of view, because this stuff is wild. 09:11:34 What is actually happening and like is provable and verifiable over and over and over again in the FDA studies. 09:11:42 And, like, you know, the maps organisation it's like passing all these incredible thresholds that other drugs or other things in the FDA would take years to basically overcome their statistics are so profound and positive. 09:11:58 So. So I wanted to speak to that, and wanted to write it down because I was yeah, didn't wanna speak as much from the heart as I did. 09:12:09 Want to speak with my whole body, including my mind. So decriminalizing emptyogens, is not only a compassionate step towards addressing the mental health crisis, but also supported by a growing body of scientific evidence, studies have shown that substances like Psilocybin and Mdma 09:12:28 when used in a controlled setting, with the guidance of trained professionals, can significantly reduce symptoms of addiction, impeachsd, which is a theme, and, for example, just wanted to speak to this specific cause. 09:12:42 It's wild and super successful in a recent clinical trial. 09:12:47 67% of participants who received psilocybin assisted therapy for smoking cessation remain abstinence for 6 months, abstinent for 6 after 6 months compared to only 27% in a controlled group which is like triple the 09:13:03 amount, another study, 54% of participants who received mdma assisted therapy for Ptsd. 09:13:11 No longer met the diagnostic, diagnostic criteria for Ptsd. 09:13:16 After 3 sessions, which, and is even more studies about treatment. 09:13:22 Or is this in Ptsd as well like stuff like that through all every treatment you could possibly think of? 09:13:29 Is not affecting it. And this, sometime after one, sometimes after 2, sometimes with months of support, it disappears so just being able to follow that thread is where it's weight, right there. 09:13:44 Yeah, these positive outcomes are not isolated incidents, right? 09:13:49 A meta-analysis of 6 studies. So it's studying studies about this on psilocybin assistant therapy for anxiety and depression, found that the treatment was associated with a large effect size indicating significant clinical benefit basically being like this is worth your 09:14:05 time. This is not some fluke. This is not just a one-off thing, and these studies aren't biased or skewed, or whatever right. 09:14:13 So we wanna make sure. That's clear, too. More of our studies have shown that. 09:14:18 Yeah, I got one. I have one more sentence here. So right, these are not only good for that. 09:14:24 Reducing depression, anxiety, spiritual mindfulness, etc. 09:14:29 But if we can decriminalize them, then we can allow for more research and education, and then leading to more compassion and effective drug approach to drug policy in the county. 09:14:40 So thank you for your time. They've travels. Thank you. 09:14:47 Hmm! 09:14:52 Good morning. My name is Christa. Demo. I'm a licensed mental health Counselor in the State of Washington, and I'm also a human trafficking survivor. 09:15:02 Domestic violence, survivor and survivor of childhood, sexual abuse. 09:15:07 And I'm here to speak from the heart about the effects of these ethnogens in my life, to be able to stand here and say those words that I couldn't be honest with myself or other people about before I used this plant medicine to help me integrate the complex ptsd that I 09:15:28 suffered from for my whole life. 09:15:33 The effects of his plant medicines are profound, for people like me, who never had a sense of safety or being loved, or being protected, it makes the nervous system unable to receive care and love, and to function properly. 09:15:53 Using these plant medicines was the first time my nervous system was able to relax enough to feel a sense of safety so that I could bring my whole heart into the world in a way that I could serve my clientele as a licensed mentor therapist and then to see my 09:16:12 clients who were able to access plant medicine. How quickly they healed, as opposed to my clients who did not have access to this type of medicine, was stunning to me, and so I'm here both personally and professionally to ask you to consider passing this 09:16:35 resolution. Thank you. Thanks, Kristin. 09:16:40 Hmm! 09:16:42 Oh, yeah, we can take it. Thank you. 09:16:52 Good morning. My name is Jerry Spickerman. I'm here to support the decriminalization of enthogens. I'm not sure I pronounced that right, but I think you all know what I'm talking about. 09:17:06 I lived in this community for 26 years I've been active as a chair one time as a chair of the Edc. 09:17:15 As a vice chair. Of the port. Thompson planning commission, and most recently, as head of the Port Townsend. 09:17:22 We volunteer volunteers for 3 years. I'm 80 years old, and I have metastatic. 09:17:31 Prostate cancer for the past year I've been microdosing with psilocybin I don't get high rather at the end of the day, and my wife will support this. 09:17:44 I find it's significantly reduces by depression and and it works towards eliminating my anxiety. 09:17:52 In other words, I have a good day being diagnosed with the terminal illness. I'm afraid by end of life will be sooner than later. 09:18:05 I am sure both my anxiety and depression. We'll increase exponentially as my end days. 09:18:14 As I nearby end days, I strongly feel that growing mushrooms should not be criminalized, and then I. 09:18:24 Should be able to grow my own safe, non addictive, natural medicine for my own consumption. 09:18:33 Please pass the resolution to decriminalize these materials. 09:18:39 In other words, I should be able to pass from this earth. 09:18:43 Well, I'm having a good day. 09:18:48 Thank you. Thank you. Gary, hmm! 09:18:57 Hello! My name is Andy Fisher Price, and I strongly support the passing of a resolution to decriminalize Anthea. Gen's. 09:19:09 From my own experience I I experienced several different challenging childhood events that I later was told amounted to a complex Ptsd diagnosis, and it seems that there is a pandemic of childhood trauma where they trauma. 09:19:38 Doesn't stop at the event perpetuates itself, and the victims of childhood trauma either become perpetuators of trauma as adults or are. 09:19:54 Are living lives as adults of torment from depression. 09:20:01 Ptsd. Anxiety and Anthea Gen's have the power to disrupt that cycle of traumatic perpetuation. 09:20:16 In my own story I was living a life, I addicted to cocaine. 09:20:23 I did one ceremony of byahuasca, and never touched it again. 09:20:29 My partner at the time have been struggling on and off with an addiction to cocaine, because she is the victim of extensive childhood. 09:20:37 Sexual abuse. She was thinking that she was gonna have to go back to rehab for a third time that same iyahuasca ceremony completely. 09:20:49 Just obliterated her addiction. She's never touched it again. 09:20:54 So this is really, really powerful. It's meaningful stuff. 09:20:59 And with proper education and community resources, it seems more criminal to have these criminalized so strongly and passionately encouraging the passing of this resolution. 09:21:17 Thank you so much for considering. Thank you, Andy. 09:21:23 There is another seat up here, as well. 09:21:28 Anyone else in the room like to make public comment at this point. 09:21:33 Hi, all of you! I'm so delighted that this resolution is on the agenda and that you're considering it today. 09:21:40 And I want to give a special thanks to Heidi for all your work. 09:21:42 On, moving it forward and bringing us to this point. I love this community. 09:21:48 I love this county. I have such a deep desire for us to lead the way in. 09:21:54 How the world can can hold entthogens in community and theogens that word, the word that no one knows how to pronounce it's actually coined at Fort Warden in the seventies, at a Hallucinogenic Conference with all the psychedelic experts in 09:22:08 the world. So it actually has its roots in this town, and I feel like our community also, more than any place I've ever lived, including Berkeley, California. 09:22:19 People here work with these medicines mindfully, intentionally, with care. 09:22:23 People want to care for each other. They want to care for this planet. 09:22:26 These plants facilitate deeper care for each other, in deeper care for this planet. 09:22:30 We had a peer support training. Recently, we maxed it out with 45 people and one of the sections we had was on reciprocity. 09:22:37 So when people work with these medicines, often in healing themselves, they also are able to get back to their communities, in more full, wholehearted ways, and that was one of the in our feedback forums. That was one of the pieces that people were most appreciative of they're like oh, how can I volunteer what am 09:22:52 I most passionate about? How can I get back to this community? 09:22:56 I have also seen insane amounts of healing from these medicines, both in addiction with people who are depressed, people who feel disconnected people who feel lonely I can't tell you how many stories of transformation I have heard, and I think people in this community by 09:23:16 partisanly support our money not going towards criminalizing us, hoping one another in healing one another with these plants that grow naturally in this area. 09:23:25 Some gr naturally in this area. And we want to make sure these plants are also protected from commercialization. 09:23:31 A lot of people come to our meetings thinking they support legalization. 09:23:34 And then, as soon as they understand that legalization means control and regulation and high cost I don't support regulation, of course they support decriminalization. 09:23:43 Our community really stands for people being empowered to make their own decisions regarding medicines, to grow their own medicines, to not be we still can't grow cannabis in our backyards unless you have a medical license and people have tried to change that and the lobbyists in the 09:24:02 cannabis, industry, fight it every single time, and no one's been able to do that. 09:24:05 And we don't want that to happen with these plants. 09:24:06 These are sacred plants that have been worked with by communities in communities for millennia, and we want to carry them responsibly for it in our community. 09:24:16 In that same way so please pass this resolution. Please keep it strong. 09:24:19 As best you can. And yeah, thanks for listening. Thank you, Aaron. 09:24:29 Anyone. Else. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great. Thank you very much. 09:24:37 Alright! Anyone else in the room like to make public. 09:24:39 Please. You have 3 min. My name is Shara, and I've been a part of this community now for 6 years. 09:24:47 I'm a spiritual mentor and a volunteer for the Psychedelic Society. 09:24:52 Is that better? Okay? 09:25:00 I'm here on behalf of the plants, but I'm also here on behalf of the many phone calls that I intercept with people in crisis and seeking health, and also with a lot of hope in their hearts because they have read that these and the agents these natural substances, from 09:25:17 the earth can greatly alleviate some of the things that people suffer with the most these days. 09:25:24 Severe depression, anxiety, addiction, suicidal ideation, and even some chronic pathological illnesses that have no other remedies. 09:25:33 Yet they call me, and the major concern is that a what happens if I can't afford this? 09:25:42 And what happens if I once, if I have access to this through an undergraduate channel, and it really works for my life and then there's this sphere that if I'm walking down the street, or if I get pulled over and I have a little bit, of this something that is saving my 09:25:58 life that I am going to be punished for it. And then what happens is this, just then sends that person who is dealing with all of these very deep pathologies, likely into a deeper spiral. 09:26:11 I personally have been, I mean I will say my life has been saved from the working with the earth. 09:26:19 The return to the earth to allowing these medicines to regenerate me, I suffered with near-death addiction for over 20 years, and that is why I'm here to stand up for the reconnection to what is natural for us. 09:26:35 Because that, I believe, is at the root of the majority of our illnesses and our addictions is a separation from what can truly feed, nourish, support, and heal us, and that is under our feet. 09:26:46 In these incredible medicines that we carry. And so I am. 09:26:50 I'm here on behalf of the Earth and all of those phone calls I get. 09:26:53 And there is a one little girl she's a teenager, and she is suffering from. 09:26:59 I know I'm gonna finish up. She is. She and her mother have called me. 09:27:04 She is at the edge of potential, her of life with anorexia, and I know that in Stanford that right now they're doing a lot of research between the connection with Psilocybin healing and erexia and eating disorders which are some of the hardest 09:27:21 addictions to treat that we currently have, and she is hopeful. 09:27:25 Yet she is scared because she doesn't know where to get access. 09:27:28 That doesn't require going through loops or going underground. 09:27:32 Thank you so much. Thank you, Sharon. 09:27:37 Anyone else in the room that would like to make a double comment. 09:27:40 And I see folks online. I think we'll go past 9, 30. 09:27:43 But we'll we'll make sure that everyone gets a chance to speak. 09:27:45 Hello! My name is Juan Carlos. The volunteer with the poor Towns and Psychedelic Society ambassador to the Heroic Arts Project, and a volunteer with Reach Washington. 09:27:57 A state level initiative, the decriminalized Np. 09:28:00 Engines in Washington, State and I'll keep my comments brief. 09:28:03 I really just want to sort of highlight. What's already been said. 09:28:09 And that is that today we have the opportunity to write. Oh, historical wrong by decriminalizing what are plants and fungi that can heal invisible life, threatening wounds for which we have very few tools right now, and for which many people in our society and our community are 09:28:33 struggling, and these plants have the opportunity to help people. 09:28:38 They've helped me treat and overcome a lifetime of chronic depression. 09:28:45 That's ran in my family for generations, and I've seen them help people with with depression and especially with addiction, essentially reach and a a bottom that otherwise they would have to run into in their lives after they've lost everything. 09:29:06 But instead, with these messages, they can gain perspectives on the trajectory of their lives and make course. 09:29:15 Corrections before they have done harm. To their families, to their communities, to their children, that take a lifetime to recover from. 09:29:28 So I just really want to request that this resolution, in its current form is considered and I'm just so grateful for everyone that's here today. 09:29:38 Thank you. Thank you. One, Carlos. Anyone else in the room like to make a comment today. 09:29:44 Of course there will be another opportunity when we consider the resolution. 09:29:48 At 10 Am. Alright. I'll come back to the room. But I'll go online. 09:29:50 I see we have one hand raised there. You want to bring Kristen over. 09:30:00 Welcome is Barnes. You have 3 min to make a comment on anything you'd like. 09:30:05 Yeah. Good morning. I'm calling in from Seattle. I'm a part-time resident of Port Townsend. 09:30:10 I live and work part time over in Seattle as a naturopathic physician and an acupuncturist. 09:30:16 But I'm also a 27 year veteran of the Us. 09:30:19 Navy, and I heard so much about giving back to the healthcare veterans specifically so much, that after I retired in 2015, at the age of 46, I decided to go to medical school at Bastor University, and then I got into plant Medicine, which naturally led me to Mushrooms, and the plant 09:30:39 Medicine of the Pacific Northwest. I wanna thank Aaron for introducing me to what you all are doing there. 09:30:47 It's very important. I think. What I bring to the table today is the perspective of a veteran chief medical officer of a non-profit called No fallen heroes, which advocates for the use of psycho active medications and treatment of ptsd and veterans and first 09:31:01 responders. I want. If there's nothing else that I can bring to the table, let me just drive home today. 09:31:07 It may seem small what you're doing, but there are so many people watching and waiting to see how Washington response. 09:31:18 Hoping that it goes in the direction similar to Oregon and Colorado. 09:31:22 But I love the idea of the decriminalization as opposed to legalization, because it does maintain access for people to embrace their own plant medicine as a natural path. 09:31:32 I can't advocate for plant medicine and then say we can only give it to certain people based on how much money you have. 09:31:40 It's not fair to overburden the Medicaid system with people that need this care, and then wonder why it's broken, because they don't have access to it. 09:31:54 So that makes sense. We have the tools, resources. There. I'm sure you've done all that. 09:32:00 And Keith made a good point about some of the research, but the 2 tools are there. 09:32:05 All we have to do is make it accessible, and allow people to do it in a way that's responsible but we can't do that until we start decriminalizing as a veteran in the user of psychedelics. 09:32:17 It has been very impactful in my own life. It's very important for me to continue sharing that, and when I come to 4,000 permanently in June of this year I will continue to do that and be active in the Psychedelic Association, but for now i'm just gonna say from 09:32:30 afar. I appreciate everything that you and Psychedelic Association of Fort Towns are doing, and I encourage you to consider just how monumental it is for you to take this tiny step. 09:32:42 Thank you. 09:32:44 Thank you. Kristen. Alright! I'll make a call out to anyone else joining us. 09:32:49 Virtually we would love to hear from you. If you've got something to say, just raise hand or star 9, if you're on the phone, and we'll bring you over. 09:32:57 I see another one there. Why don't we bring this fall over? 09:33:04 Hello, Jean, thanks for being with us. You have 3 min. 09:33:08 Good morning! At the risk of piling on what already been said. 09:33:14 This seems like a real no brainer to me. I mean, we're talking about allowing treatment options for people who have medical need and I don't care if they use anything recreationally. 09:33:27 Yeah, we had the same problem with the legalization and decriminalization of marijuana and the fear mongering is what kept everybody from coming to their senses. 09:33:38 And they kept saying, Oh, you know all our houses are. 09:33:41 Gonna get off. There's gonna be crime everywhere, and what we've seen is exactly the opposite of that. 09:33:47 We have cut the knees out of the black market. 09:33:49 We have made things accessible and affordable, and we have put medicine in the hands of people who can use it to help themselves. 09:34:00 If you don't need a certain prescription. Well, you are not obligated to take it so to prevent others from having access to treatment options. 09:34:10 Seems really just. I'm maybe I'll stop with using the words may have otherwise used, but it's wrong. 09:34:20 It is wrong. It's criminal, it's disruptive. 09:34:23 So this is a real no brainer, and I just can't thank you enough for your support of such a thing, and I hope the rest of the country, or at least the state comes to their senses very soon. 09:34:34 Thank you for considering it. 09:34:36 Thank you, Jane. Anyone else with us virtually. That would like to make a comment today. 09:34:42 Raise hand or star. 9. 09:34:49 Alright! I'll make one more call to the people actually with us. 09:34:54 Anyone else like to make public comment alright. Come on up, sir. 09:34:58 My name is Joseph. Go forth that I've been a community member here in Port Townsend since 2018. 09:35:04 I've got a personal story that involves alcohol addiction, and I was, you know, I use the kind of regular channels Aa. 09:35:17 And recovery to get my feedback on the ground, and as soon as I discovered using these medicines to strengthen and help my own situation, I was able to take advantage of those, and it's help me with depression and help me with anxiety. 09:35:34 It's helped me to become more of a helper in my own community. 09:35:39 Here I work with the Psychedelic Society at the support level. 09:35:44 So the thing fast. Different events. Will set up a booth. 09:35:47 If people are having a hard time because they've taken some psychedelics, we have a safe space for them. 09:35:54 So that doesn't burden the Ems it doesn't burden the police officers every time we show up. 09:36:01 They greet us with open arms, because they often don't know what to do when someone's having a hard time like that. 09:36:07 So to relieve them of that, and provide that to the community has opened my eyes to just how valuable this is, not only for people's independent personal healing, but also it takes all the unnecessary pressure off of our other resources in the community that can be better use to do what they're here 09:36:28 to do and help in the ways that they're set up to help him. 09:36:32 So I completely 100% support this initiative to decriminalize antigens. Thank you. Thank you. 09:36:41 Alright! Anyone else. 09:36:44 Alright! I'll make one more call online. Alright! 09:36:48 See no more public comment at this point we will close public comment, and we will respond. 09:36:52 We'll probably have a more robust conversation with. Consider the resolution. 09:36:56 But I'll Kate Heidi, you want to lead off response to the public comments. 09:37:02 Do you wanna go ahead separating. Okay. Thank you all for being here and for sharing your powerful stories of healing. 09:37:11 And I have learned so much and a little bit last couple of years from Aaron, who, I think, is represents many of you. I know that it's not her work alone, and just have enormous gratitude for your willingness, and and for some of you. 09:37:28 A risk, risk that you take many of you the risk that you take to do this work to support people in the community who have not had a lot of hope and a lot of help previously, and I and I say this with some personal experience, too, of a close family member of mine not here in this community, but nearby 09:37:47 who is a therapist, got her license in Oregon to be able to practice plant medicine as a therapist and, you know, puts herself at risk her profession. 09:37:57 License at risk to do that work here. So I know I have a glimpse into the world that you face, and some of the risks that you face in trying to do this good work. 09:38:10 So I'm looking forward to our discussion a little bit later today. 09:38:15 In 20 min or so I think you will have my support. 09:38:19 You know, we work in a system that we, we try to balance the needs of our fellow elected so you know, you might hear some of that discussion which I think is good. 09:38:30 You know, fleshing out some of the issues around. This is valuable for the public to hear and take part in. 09:38:36 Also, so bear with us as we work through a system that is, we think some of you called broken, which I don't disagree with, but it is certainly slow and little bit cumbersome. 09:38:49 But you have my support, and I look forward to working with you, and we'll discuss more later. 09:38:59 Well, I'll just add that you obviously have my support, and you know, when I was elected I I I ran for my community, and you are all part of my community, and I recognize that. 09:39:10 And that's why I thought it was important to bring this back to the table. 09:39:14 It was before us before in a different form, and I've been talking with Aaron over the last year and appreciate you working with us and understanding kind of some of that internal family politics we have in the courthouse as well. 09:39:31 So I asked Aaron to work with all of us independently, because we can't talk to each other outside of these meetings. 09:39:39 I don't know if everyone realizes that. But so I said, Aaron, it's your job to get everyone on board with the with the draft of the Resolution, and then bring it back. 09:39:50 And then we I shared it with one of our other elected officials, and I didn't share it. 09:39:55 Soon enough with another one of our other elected officials, but I worked over the weekend with him, and we have a couple of recommended changes that aren't. 09:40:04 I don't think they get it. The intent of the resolution, and I've been talking with Aaron about those as well. 09:40:09 So, anyway, it's it's definitely I'm learning firsthand through this process. 09:40:15 Specific process, what the recipe is in the sausage making, and I appreciate everyone being patient with us. 09:40:22 I also have close members of my chosen family who've use both psilocybin mushrooms and iahuasca, and in the life and in stress related to a very extremely stressful professional they've chosen and so I understand both 09:40:42 the practical and the spiritual application of indigensions, and am supportive of those, because I know they're a healthy way forward, and I hear that in all of your testimony today, and I appreciate you all being here. 09:40:56 So that's okay. Thanks, Kate. And I also am it's great to have a full chamber. 09:41:04 So thank you for coming and sharing your stories, and you know folks that are we're vulnerable enough to share really personal stories. 09:41:11 I really appreciate it. It does. It's compelling and I think you have 3 supporters of the work that you're doing here. 09:41:19 I certainly support the goals I still would like to have a little more conversation about decriminalization versus legalization. 09:41:26 You know, policy is never perfect, but yeah, it's just. 09:41:30 It's an interesting path. But if decriminalization is the path that this group is really set upon, I think that deserves more conversation. 09:41:38 I think that deserves more conversation, but I'm willing to support. 09:41:39 I do have some concerns about the resolution that I have shared with Aaron, and it's kind of, I think it was Genie. 09:41:45 Maybe that talked about, you know that we're you're elected representatives and you know, don't let the career law enforcement get in the way of that. 09:41:54 But different than the city where the electrical representatives have control over the law enforcement. 09:42:01 We have an elected sheriff, and you have an elected prosecutor. 09:42:05 So in the same way that I would be very hesitant to tell the Assessor you should stop. 09:42:09 Doing this tax or assessing this way, or to the treasurer, you have an elected representative that interprets the laws locally, and I'm I'm really hesitant while being huge supporters and of of the program. 09:42:24 And I would honestly decriminalize all drugs I think I really, there are planks in here that are prosecutor disagrees with that. 09:42:31 I agree with that. I'm happy to push those past, even if we disagree with them. 09:42:34 You know about public health and harm reduction, and I completely am on board with you. There. 09:42:41 But I do have real hesitations about telling peer-elected how to do their job in the same way that I would be. 09:42:49 I would push back if the prosecutor told me how to do my jobs so I just wanna be very clear about the hesitations that are there. 09:42:57 And some of the planks of the resolution, but really appreciate the the vulnerability and the and the and the power of these drugs. 09:43:11 I mean, 100% supportive and want to help you guys on the State and Federal level as much as I can. 09:43:16 The local level is more challenging for me personally. 09:43:21 Okay. Yeah, to be, continued Yup. It's not gonna be long. 100'clock. We'll be back in this. 09:43:29 We're gonna invite the prosecutor who is joining us. 09:43:31 Okay. I've had. Someone said, I don't know. 09:43:39 Okay. We'll see if they're able to come. 09:43:44 But we do have notes, and we'll go through the resolution plan, and we'll see if they're able to come. But we do have notes, and we'll go through the resolution. 09:43:51 I think I got a zoom. Our little oxygen meters we're gonna put everyone to sleep. 09:43:59 If we we're at 1.4 parts per 1 million Co. 09:44:01 2, in we're gonna put everyone to sleep. If we we're at 1,400 parts per 1 million Co. 09:44:09 2 in if we responded, well, let's take a look at consent. Agenda. 09:44:16 So exciting to see the first award of contract for the port headlock sewer absolutely thrilling and for it to be under budget is very exciting. 09:44:27 I'm so glad that that seat in construction was the lowest bidder responsive bidder, and so great to have local folks working on the largest infrastructure project we've had in the county, and deck mobilization was one of the big cost savings looking between the 09:44:43 different bids, you know the fact they are local, was one of the reasons they were able to be cheaper. 09:44:49 Great. Okay. 09:44:53 Anything else. I'm just glad to see the shoreline master program moving forward because I report on that every month at the Marine Resources Committee meeting and say, we're working on it. We're working on it. We're working on it. 09:45:07 And I'm just kind of getting so I'm thrilled to see it moving forward, and I know this has been our plan along to work with Burt consulting. 09:45:12 And what was it? A year we waited for ecology to get back? 09:45:17 Wasn't all our delays at all. I want to say thank you to John Cook, who's been reappointed to the parks Anderic Advisory Board for that. 09:45:26 I don't know how many, if there's a term. Yeah, I think more. He was there when I came on in 2017. 09:45:36 So thanks for that ongoing work for District 3. 09:45:42 Great, I would move that we adopt the consent agenda for April 20. 09:45:48 Fourth, 2023, s, all in favor of approving and adopting the consent. 09:45:55 Agenda, as presented in the gate P. Saint. 09:45:58 Aye, aye, all right, alright! That passes! 09:46:01 I did the payment marking. I keep looking for better names for pavement, marking companies. 09:46:06 It seems like a real mist. Opportunity, wasn't there stripe right? Striperight was pretty good. They didn't win the bad, you know. You can't do the bid on names alone that yeah, I did put into AI and came up with a couple line them up. 09:46:19 Pavement marking, or on the you know AI, to come up with those you kind of come up with those you kind of come up with those. 09:46:36 What I'm testing. I'm testing Greg's not me using. 09:46:36 Yeah, I know I'm not good at remembering jokes, and I needed a joke last week, and I found one of using AI I'm not good at remembering jokes. And I needed a joke last week. And I found one of using AI Google I just say, I know I wonder if we have a few minutes. I do have one item. That the letter. 09:46:47 On the naming of passage through is that we could do. We're not going to have time to finish briefing. So let's do it. 09:46:58 Yeah, that's what I was. Department of Natural resources. Has a committee on geographic names. 09:47:04 The Port Campbell Scalum Tribe. Proposed the naming of the water way, which we didn't really think of. 09:47:21 Well, the what we called Killison Harbor Project, which opened up the waterway between Indian Islands and Maristone Island was not previously named in our, you know, kind of colonial mapped world, and so when that waterway was opened through that largely salmon restoration project 09:47:44 the Port Campbell scalum tribe asked for that waterway to be formally named, and they have proposed the name passage through which is the direct translation of their historic and perhaps current name for that geography. 09:48:00 So we had discussed writing a letter to send to the hearing which is on May first. I might still try to attend virtually, and testify in person as well, but I'm proposing the language presented here to submit to the hearing record. 09:48:20 It looks great, hey? It looks good. I love that. There's joy joy I love that there's joy. Blessed, honored it was! I felt like teeming with wildlife. 09:48:33 Yes, one question just wanted to make sure I was put in here connecting Oak Bay and Scow Bay. 09:48:40 Is that the I think the correct geographic terms is the southern portion of. 09:48:49 Yeah. 09:48:52 I just don't know if it's I guess it's official. 09:48:56 I don't know the answer that I know the chat Bot! 09:49:00 Here? I asked Google, and it seemed to think those were accurate. 09:49:08 But I'm not. I'm not a mariner, is definitely what we call the south end of Kills at Harbor. 09:49:17 But it's on the other side of passage through. 09:49:22 But yeah, okay, is the south end of Cilicus at Harbor. 09:49:27 Yeah, Hi should not be. And that's very slow. Yeah, I mean, we can adjust that. 09:49:32 Let's just verify before we send it. Yeah, I got no Internet right now. 09:49:36 I think this is accurate. I just don't know if it's the most accurate. 09:49:40 No, I think it's fine. Okay, we will. Since this is new, we'll take public comment before we approve it. 09:49:46 But I don't have any changes motion. I would move that we approved the letter supporting the naming of the naming of passage through to the Washington State Committee on Geographic names for the new passage between and Oak Bay. 09:50:06 A second, okay, it's been moved and seconded because this was not on our agenda. 09:50:12 I will open it up to the public, either in person or online, to see if you have any comment on this action. 09:50:16 We are considering. So anyone in the room passage through which says it's A. 09:50:26 Okay, no one online. I will close public comment and call the question on in favor of the motion indicate by saying, Aye, Nope, all right. 09:50:35 It is unanimous, great! 09:50:39 Carolyn, I'll send this to Julian Adele for letterhead. 09:50:44 Please thank you. Well, I could use a quick bio break, so I know we have 10 min, but well, let's take a recess for 5 min. 09:50:54 Come back at 9 55 and get that'll to really start by 10. 09:57:00 Oops! Alright! One moment before the text. 09:57:06 Alright! Welcome back! I will call this meeting in the Board of County Commissioners back into session. 09:57:11 We have just a moment or 2 before our 100'clock discussion and potential action about the resolution requesting that the arrest, investigation, and prosecution of individuals involved with enthusiasm related activities be amongst the lowest priority in Jefferson County. 09:57:28 We don't really have time for briefing anything you want to watch. 09:57:31 Part of my briefing is is a video. Can I play a video? 09:57:35 Of course, all right. That involved the banjo. There's no bandwidth. It was not made at all with AI, and I have to say AI is horrible at writing songs. So far it's just really bad. 09:57:48 Get this going your musicians of the world will not be replaced. No! 09:57:58 Well, I mean, I think that it someone. There was a big drake song that came out. It was just like the drake's on, but it depends on your genre. 09:58:01 It was pound widely, too. The AI Drake sign. 09:58:03 Was it 10, for it's on its merits, or because it was facsimilated. 09:58:07 It was a pastiche. Oh, I believe alright, I'm gonna share my screen and so one of the things I did last week was right along with the cares units, and I and you wrote a song about it. 09:58:25 Oh, awesome! 09:58:28 Definitely, Anne definitely Anne Oops. But of course I hit the right button. 09:58:34 Sorry. Try one more time. 09:58:42 Maybe we should. You should say what they navigator team with the fire departments, but I'll let them speak for it. 09:58:58 Okay. Oh, awesome. 09:58:53 They can't, so. 09:59:02 Definitely. 09:59:03 That sounds. Hmm! 09:59:07 Rescue, 20 year Paramedic, and I am Leanne Peterson, and I am working on my masters. 09:59:14 We're going to have a masters in addiction and have worked in crisis work and community coalition building and the Cares program is actually under an Rcw. 09:59:22 That Governor Angel signed back in 2015 and made it a Senate bill, and the acronym stands for community assistance. 09:59:28 Referral education services, the intention coming into this work was to link individuals to services that they may not be aware of one of the challenges that the fire department has with our deployment model is we're a tool to respond emergencies. 09:59:44 A 901 emergency very quickly and deal with the emergency, mitigate the hazard, or treat the patient, get them to the care they need quickly, and then get back in service so that we're available for the next 911. 09:59:57 Emergency and that's one of the challenges that have plagued the fire service for decades throughout my career in the career of many of our people is we have not had time to really unpack the underlying needs working with the aging. 10:00:11 Population is a primary aspect of the work that we do. 10:00:14 If we track our data on a daily basis. And over the 4 months that we've been working about 80% of our individuals that we work with are over the age of 65 years old, probably a fourth of them are veterans that do not know how to access resources for veterans affairs and what we do is we 10:00:33 work alongside the individuals we ask them what their needs are. 10:00:37 We support those needs as the oldest age population in the State, and one of the oldest in the nation. 10:00:41 We have people living longer, independent lives in our community. The unintended consequence to that is, people are living right on the edge of independence, and maybe not aware, have not had access before to some of the services that we have in a rural community where they would have more prolifically in a metro community so 10:01:04 the kerosene. It's been able to kind of fill that gap I've always had the passion for helping people that are experiencing trauma or crisis situations help them realize that there's a way out. 10:01:16 And so I've never seen the paramedic side or the firefighter side. 10:01:20 I've seen the behavioral health and the addiction side of the topic of crisis and trauma. 10:01:24 And so when we walk into a situation, we can kind of assess what's the most priority need that we have to address? 10:01:31 Is it the medical side, or do we see a lot of empty outcohol bottles in the home, or do we see, you know, a pot on the stove that's been burning too long, and the foods to a crisp? 10:01:42 We kind of assess the situation, focus on the most immediate need, and after addressing that immediate need, we kind of tailor a needs assessment of how can we further help this this person get the support that they need whether it be linking them to mental health or addiction, services or getting them 10:01:58 linked with area on agency or Dshs. Just the services that they may not know that are existing in the community so that's kind of my aspect. 10:02:08 And when we started working together, we kind of have queues. 10:02:11 Now I mean he can look at me and be like, okay, Leon, it's your turn. 10:02:15 What are your thoughts on working with someone like me? Mainly the elderly people have mental health issues, and no one ever but things that have an eighty-year-old lady that lives in a house by themselves, with a roof caving in. 10:02:29 And she thinks it's okay, like, there's somebody mental health components to that. 10:02:32 And a lot of people don't understand that, or our 911 resources will respond to the scene. 10:02:38 See some things that need to be followed up on by the cares unit, and then the cares unit will follow up the next day or so and then try to help navigate that person to some of the resources that we have in our communities. 10:02:55 Alright, that's good. Sorry, took us a minute past, Tim, just in alright. 10:03:02 Well, great, great. Oh, yeah. I learned a lot. Yeah, no, it's pretty cool program. 10:03:08 And it's absolutely it really felt like a behavioral health gap that we haven't been conscious enough about. 10:03:13 But every place that I went to was someone aging in place on the edge of Independence. 10:03:20 And it's it's a real issue yeah, I I, when I dread my right along after the first stop, I was like, does he have food I mean, just cause I'm I like to feed everybody right? 10:03:33 Like, does he have to love language? Yeah, and then I went to the next house, and I'm like she doesn't have food. And Lianne was like good instinct. 10:03:44 Heid Jeff, I'm like, is there food in the budget of cares? 10:03:47 You know, and he's like, no, we just buy it. 10:03:49 They buy it out of their own pocket yeah, not dedicated. Yeah. 10:03:54 And great youian. Alright, but onto our scheduled talk. 10:03:59 So, Heidi, do you how would you like to lay this out? Do you have? 10:04:05 How would you like to lay this out? You want to tea it up. 10:04:06 Well, I kind of started earlier, but I'll just say that this has been an issue, that our community has been talking about for a long time for me. 10:04:12 I remember talking about this when I was 13 years old, growing up here with elders. 10:04:16 My elders in the community who are trying to talk to me about using psilocybin mushrooms. 10:04:23 And anyway, it you know, it's long been something that our community accepts and. 10:04:31 I think that the overall goal of the resolution we would like to pass is about decriminalizing in the agens at a state level, because counties are agents of the State the prosecutor works for the you know, has to implement state law the sheriff I mean we all we all kind. 10:04:51 Of are working in that framework. So what can we do as a county in Aaron and I have been talking about this, and we can be another voice for changing that context. 10:05:01 Within which this is. This topic is discussed. And so that was the the goal. 10:05:07 With this resolution, and, as I mentioned, I've had conversations with the sheriff and with a prosecuting attorney, and there are some couple of concerns. 10:05:19 But in general I feel like there's support for the resolution and I don't know how you want to proceed with talking about the concerns or, okay, we don't have the that looks like the prosecutor or the sheriff is here i'm not sure if I could just 10:05:43 say, but if I could just say, in response to you, Greg, to your concerns, and of course we do balance the powers. 10:05:55 I mean, it's why we have a number of elected in different branches of government. 10:05:55 But I mean in this case I well, it will be the legislature who will be weighing in on this. 10:05:58 So they are legislative branch, just like we are, and so I don't feel it's inappropriate to be speaking as a legislative branch on an issue that will be addressed by the State through the legislature of course the Supreme Court. 10:06:11 Might weigh in involving the judicial branch. 10:06:12 You know, but I think we have a lane, and and that we we can find a way to work in our lane and be, you know, explicit about the fact that this will be a largely legislative decision. 10:06:28 Statewide, and that there's there's power and value in us speaking up to that. 10:06:35 I mean, I I agree with that, and we're maybe we should put the resolution up there. 10:06:40 So folks can see what we're talking about and like. 10:06:42 I know that the section 4 under the therefores that we should maintain that the use and possession of all controlled substances should be understood primarily as a public health issue and supports harm reduction strategies. 10:06:54 I totally support that, and I think that's speaking to our legislators on the State Federal level. 10:06:59 I know the prosecutor did not like that, and that's to me. 10:07:02 That's not. That's our lane. But when I look at Section 2, we'd like to see a future where no county funds or resources are used to assist in the enforcement of laws imposing criminal penalties for the planting cultivating purchasing or use it, by 10:07:17 adults, when reasonably possible, this is not preclude enforcing other laws when empty, insider are present, so that to me says, Hey, sheriff, don't do this. 10:07:25 They prosecute or don't do this according to the laws and I like the conversation with the staff. 10:07:30 I'm uncomfortable with the conversation locally telling our peers, who are also elected and represent, you know, the same people what to do. 10:07:39 And yeah, where this came from, I feel quite comfortable in saying, is that, as you know, our lane is to control the county budget as a policy documents, and so talking about it in terms of financial resources is an effort to identify the the lane that we that we do 10:08:03 occupy and in conversations with Sheriff Nle we specifically changed the language of Section 2 to we'd like to see a future, because we know that's not right. 10:08:11 Now, you know, we're working towards that collectively as a community. 10:08:15 But we know that's not the case right now, and that's why we change that language. 10:08:21 He still was a little uncomfortable with it, uncomfortable with it, but was, but did incur. 10:08:28 He said, this is your guys' role, you know. You just have this conversation. 10:08:32 And so I felt like, and I felt like it was a good conversation with them about it, and I felt like I wanted to bring it back to us to have that conversation. 10:08:43 Oh, you wanna bring offer sheriff. No panelists see if he accepts. 10:08:50 You will. 10:08:53 Hmm! 10:08:58 What do you want to put your? You got updated draft that we haven't seen well, no, I just. I have the sections that people had issues about. 10:09:08 But he just basically covered that, although what was sent off via email, though that I saw one that was actual and updated I interact with a solution from Juliet 8, 56 this morning. 10:09:20 No, that was about. That was about Barbara. Barbara. 10:09:25 You're like, been having approved it. Divorce! 10:09:26 So we always imagine that this to be a 2 week process because we don't. 10:09:31 We can't talk to each other and we've had these conversations with Erin, and we've had these conversations with a sheriff and the prosecuting attorney. 10:09:37 We needed to come here and have a conversation with ourselves and figure out if there were any changes to the resolution, and then run it through the prosecuting attorney's office. 10:09:46 But I just got accepted as to former, because it was on a template that Staff put the resolution on. 10:09:51 So we took that off. Okay, so just to set the table. Your anticipation as we discuss it, work through it today. 10:09:58 Approve it. Next week. I would love to get feedback and have diabetes I mean, I think the dialogue with the prosecutor and the sheriff is an important part. 10:10:10 I wanna just I mean, it's it feels a little bit like, you know, since shore like we're insuring them. 10:10:17 Are you saying that word right? Well, that was not the intention, I mean, it was the intention. 10:10:24 It was not my intention. Oh, the attention of the it absolutely was the intention of this document to say, Hey, stop doing that! 10:10:31 They're not doing it. Reality is, that's, you know, with very small exception. 10:10:39 And for you know, I think some legitimate reasons. 10:10:43 There has been only one case, and the many years that I have been around here, where Anthony agents have even been involved in a criminal prosecution, right? 10:11:02 Yeah, thanks for being here. James. We're gonna need this mark. 10:11:10 You haven't said anything at all on this alright being here, James. 10:11:18 Sure, yeah, we're just starting to discuss it right? 10:11:19 The second, so we were just talking about the process. So we were just starting to discuss it right? The second. So so we were just talking about the process. 10:11:30 So we introduce ourselves. So we were just talking about the process, so there would be support so we were just talking about our process. And it was imagine that we worked with the draft resolution we got input. 10:11:45 On it today, and then next week we would bring a final resolution to the Bocc agenda. 10:11:49 That's always how it was imagined, because we couldn't talk to each other right, except for right here. 10:11:54 So that's kind of the process we're in the midst of now. 10:11:57 So we would love your input to as we go through this process. We're in the midst of now. 10:12:03 So we're in the process. We're in the midst of now. 10:12:04 So we would love your input make changes. But I don't know any emotions cool and make sure that we're making the right trust cause. 10:12:12 I, this is important. I think that I think we were expressed before that we are all supportive of the work of the Psychedelic Society. 10:12:16 Okay. 10:12:19 It's this resolution that we're talking about now. 10:12:21 But you were in the middle of something, Kate. Okay. 10:12:26 Or you're talking do we wanna see if General wants to join us, too? 10:12:34 I heard him. 10:12:36 Alright share for you there. Well, maybe, can I? 10:12:45 I am here. Sorry. 10:12:44 I'm curious if you at oh, yeah, I have a question for the sheriff and prosecuting attorney. 10:12:54 You know, we're discussing I don't know if you were able to hear the last few minutes talking about kind of trying to identify our lane in this, and I was suggesting that because the Legislature is taking this up has been taking this up that there is a legislative to legislative 10:13:08 branch role here, where we are weighing in and saying that, as the legislature considers a statewide, you know, I think ultimately did the bill die. 10:13:21 Okay, okay. But just that, we do have a role in that. 10:13:26 And you know we know that anything that the legislature does might be appealed to. 10:13:29 The Supreme Court. Where then, the judicial returns? But it's part of the balance of powers, but so would you. 10:13:35 I guess I'm curious if the 2 of you would you agree with that assessment that there is a legislative role here given? 10:13:40 The legislature's role as well. 10:13:43 You're asking me that. 10:13:44 Oh, yeah, both you, Joe and James. 10:13:47 And I'm sorry I've been. I've been. 10:13:50 I don't know what's going on. My computer. 10:13:52 Oh! 10:13:51 I've been trying to log on for about 15 min, and my video won't start. 10:13:56 Joe, I think your video started, you might do you have a laptop? 10:13:59 You might have your little shutter flipped, maybe. Oh, maybe you don't have your video on did earlier. 10:14:07 And it was, Oh, try turning your video on and undoing your shutter. 10:14:12 That's right over the camera, the little Slider bar, the physical. 10:14:19 We know it's. 10:14:14 Well, I yeah, that's I guess I should say, and fail to start. 10:14:20 Hmm, okay, well, that's you. 10:14:24 Okay. 10:14:28 No, it wants me to log in again. Let me. 10:14:35 We can. We can hear you. Yeah, go ahead, Joe. 10:14:34 You can still hear me. I don't wanna hold this whole thing up. 10:14:38 We're happy with just your voice. 10:14:39 Yeah, I think it is a what legislative issue for sure and and I don't. I guess I just wanted you know, I wanted to say a few things if I may. 10:14:49 Please. 10:14:50 I you know Heidi and I worked on this last week to look up to a certain degree, and but you know and I I don't want. 10:15:00 I'm not saying this to be. Anyway, I'll just say it, you know. 10:15:03 I took an oath of office to enforce the laws. 10:15:07 The State of Washington, and I think that that me, as a law enforcement officer to me, that's important, because I think that law enforcement needs to to abide by it by the rules that the legislature legislators said, and another supplies to laws 10:15:24 that I agree with. Or not, and and you know I take that serious, you know, and I do have discretion on how we enforce those laws, so that, you know, is taken into account for sure. 10:15:36 But my opinion is, that when law enforcement starts picking and choosing which laws that they're going to enforce, I think that's a slippery slope that that I don't wanna see it. 10:15:50 You know, I'm just I just as an example of that. 10:15:53 I remember a few years ago, when there was a new firearms legislation that went through and there were shares throughout the State that samely work wouldn't enforce those laws and you know, and I thought, how can you do that? 10:16:03 It's the law. So and I'm I'm not comparing this to that, but just you kinda get the idea you know, and I was on. 10:16:19 I listen to to the people talking this morning, I totally get it. 10:16:22 I you know I see the struggles that people are facing. 10:16:24 You know us here in law enforcement on daily basis. 10:16:28 I I'm all for anything that can. If you want to say, fix that, or, you know, alleviate it, help people with their suffering and whatnot. 10:16:36 But you know in to me it has to be, you know, to to make the. 10:16:43 And I know that are plants, and I get all that. 10:16:46 But but I think it's something that has to come. 10:16:50 It has to be a law, and so. 10:16:56 You know I that's where I'm coming from. I it doesn't mean I don't support what you're trying to do, and I get the idea that doing it in Heidi kind of led me through this. 10:17:07 You know that doing it at a local level to try to effect lease. That's how I see it doing it a local level to try to effect at least, that's how I see it at a local level, to try to affect the state level the more. 10:17:19 People you have in making this kind of like an official thing throughout the State. 10:17:23 The more people you have in making this kind of like an official thing throughout the State, the better chance there is for the legislators. 10:17:25 Again. I just you know I support the idea, but I just. 10:17:32 Pause. You know, as far as being low priority, I have a little trouble saying that that's the I don't know when the last time was we dealt with anything of that nature. 10:17:46 However, I do know that people don't want us, you know. They don't want to. 10:17:51 You're breaking up a little, sheriff. All all that Internet seems unstable today. 10:17:59 So that's all I have. If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to to try to answer. 10:18:05 Alright. Thank you, sheriff. So, Commissioner Dean, to answer your question succinctly. 10:18:10 Yes, I do think that there is a legislative role, that is, I have talked to some members of this community over the past couple of years, and I was hesitant to sort of take of action on this for many of the reasons that share notes stated earlier I too, took an oath to support the loss. 10:18:31 The Constitution of the State of Washington. 10:18:34 And I am very concerned about sort of just using and choosing which for which ones I don't. 10:18:48 Position from the start has really been legislature and legislative bodies to take up, that is their constitutional role. 10:18:57 As to rights, that the forces. And if there's to be a change in needs to come from that to this community. 10:19:09 I encourage you. 10:19:14 It has not been prosecutors, offers to target. 10:19:21 We are consuming. I can only think of 2 examples in my past term where individuals we came across these one an individual hire recall correctly, was caught dealing. 10:19:39 I mean heroin, and also mushrooms, that he was dealing with. 10:19:45 And sort of. 10:19:47 And process, or. 10:19:52 Activities that are st stated in the. 10:19:56 A solution keeps just a drug. 10:20:00 Just not charge that. 10:20:05 And another individual was caught with. 10:20:11 For her person. 10:20:15 Some mushrooms fall in the traffic stop, and also some, I think, oxycodon as well, and my main position on that one. 10:20:28 Not necessarily that this person has a drawing point. 10:20:32 Them to get screened for a drug problem and see if that was an issue that needed to be addressed. 10:20:37 And let the treatment providers determine whether that was something that this individual we need to follow up on or not. If. 10:20:47 Controlled substance charges, then it will for me to make that to order the resolution. 10:20:58 That's it, though this is not something that I. 10:21:08 And that tells me a lot. People who are using these things are running on. 10:21:14 Problems, breaking the wall engaged in societal decay. 10:21:16 The other attributes we might link to other controled substances. 10:21:23 It's. 10:21:26 And do seem to be something. 10:21:29 Any concerns from or community care, taking. 10:21:35 Perspective that. Thank you, James. 10:21:41 We will. We'll have a public comment period fairly soon. Here. 10:21:45 But points that excuse me, call it some of the specific points that have raised concern. 10:21:54 Yep, so I can. I mean I have. There's 2 that in conversations with James we talked about removing the whereas that starts the so called war on drugs, removing that, and we also talked about removing sex 4 which has maintains that the use, in possession, of all controlled 10:22:13 substances should be understood primarily as a public health issue and supports harm. 10:22:17 Reduction strategy. Both of these pieces of text in the resolution are kind of outside the scope of the conversation about envy agents, and so it felt appropriate for me to remove those 2 sections they feel like they're a different conversation and that we wanna keep this. 10:22:37 Focused on decriminalization of anthogens at a statewide level. 10:22:42 And so the section 2, that Sheriff Noel mentioned. 10:22:46 These are, can we start about the first? Because I mean respectfully disagree with James on that, you know share put up on screen. Yeah. 10:22:58 I mean, I think those are policy issues that are in our lane. 10:23:01 We, I think, prosecutor. I have different opinions that we see him from different perspective. So I mean, I wouldn't mind taking them out, but I guess those don't bother me, and I don't I'm happy to have a conversation about it. 10:23:13 But I guess I I'd be inclined to leave those in. 10:23:17 I think, where I both of those the top 2 stanza in the section 4. 10:23:26 I would love to not make it a binary that this is either criminal justice or a term reduction. 10:23:32 We have done a lot to support our therapeutic courts. So if we're talking more broadly about controlled substances, I don't think that as much an issue. 10:23:39 I don't think it's an issue with envy agents. 10:23:41 I think that. But but we could stuff in the language so that it's not saying that. 10:23:47 That those 2 things are not always at odds with one another. 10:23:51 So so instead of rather than prioritizing harm, reduction policies. 10:24:02 Could be, and failed, you know, has failed to recognize. 10:24:10 But I mean, like we are in doing a pretty good job in this county of diverting. 10:24:19 Folks from the criminal justice system into therapeutic systems. 10:24:23 So, anyway, I'd like to work a little bit on that. 10:24:26 And then in the section to sorry. Section 4, yeah. The you know, I think there is a whole. 10:24:36 If we're talking about all controlled substances, there is a whole spectrum of responses, and I know that's right, that I thought when James brought this one up. 10:24:45 By my God! The resolution would be a lot longer. We were talking about all controlled substances that felt like to me right? 10:24:49 Yeah, but I think it's I would like to maybe acknowledge the whole spectrum. 10:24:55 There that it is a public health issue. There are harm, reduction strategies, and and that there are times when we're talking all controlled substances, that a court mandate is the month effective tool in getting folks access to the resources and the help that they need that it isn't always one or the 10:25:15 other. So those are my 2 comments about those 2 kind of broader, all controlled substances are war on drugs. 10:25:23 I'm portions totally amenable to that kind of change. 10:25:27 As I say, I, I take these like they are too. 10:25:29 Much, just as I believe that I support those Tuesday, so happy, happy to mitigate them a little bit. So, as I understand this resolution and the purpose of this resolution, the statement on the war on drug seems to be well beyond. 10:25:53 The goals of this resonance be intrinsically tied to it. 10:26:01 As I said. 10:26:04 Come up. Conversations with narcotics, task forces. 10:26:11 Okay. 10:26:13 To stay, and theogens have never been the target. 10:26:17 So the main. 10:26:22 Focus of those groups. I think like that before the legalization of marijuana. 10:26:28 There was some focus on those that's been a while. And and since that time, yeah. 10:26:35 Opiates. I add. 10:26:42 And and with respect to. 10:26:48 Section 4. I. It's not that I'm opposed to drugs as a public health issue. It clearly. 10:26:58 Is that I think I think that this is really a full- okay. 10:27:04 Well, that's what to contain drugs, I mean is killing people. 10:27:08 It is killing people. 10:27:12 While drug addiction. Yeah. 10:27:17 Disease. It is a communicable behavior. It passes from a one person to another. 10:27:22 I think that containment? The answer I just cannot fathom. 10:27:29 Is too dangerous, too deadly, as also the county's coroner. 10:27:37 I see these. What do come across my desk? They kill a lot of people. 10:27:47 Sounds like Kate wants to make those changes. I'm happy to consider that. 10:27:52 I mean, it seems I don't have a problem with it. I don't know. 10:27:56 I don't have a problem with it, either. These weren't. 10:27:59 If they can be made. I just feel like I don't want the scope of these statements to distract us from the purpose of the resolution, especially. 10:28:09 I mean, you know the point of Awareas is to create the context, and I do think that the the war on drugs has created this, you know, across the board definition of controlled substances that very much did penalize. 10:28:25 Especially communities of color around marijuana, possession, practice through the eighties, yeah, yeah, although, the difference being marijuana being a plant-based product that we now say, Wow, that was crazy. 10:28:37 Like we were wrong, that that interpretation was was dangerous and had really detrimental effects especially to bipart communities. 10:28:46 So I I think the context is is important. But I think we could be a little more broad in how we phrase it is important. But I think we could be a little more broad. 10:29:03 And how we phrase, yeah, I'd be glad to bring and writing writing by committee who can't talk to each other is really odd. 10:29:16 And writing by writing my committee. You can't talk to each other. It's really odd. 10:29:16 Yeah. Make the sausage in public. No, this is section 2, yeah. 10:29:21 Section 2, right? For section 2, right? Yeah. And what's the note here? 10:29:29 This is as edited. Yeah. And it was edited to talk about kind of the future regulatory environment we're seeking. 10:29:37 We would like to see a feature where no county funds are. 10:29:40 We funds or resources are used. So it's talking about the future desired state. 10:29:46 I appreciate that. Defangs the censure, but it is still insenshore, because it's stocked. 10:29:52 I mean, or that's the intent. If you read behind it right? 10:29:55 Well, we need to change it then. So it's not reading like a censure, because that was not. 10:30:00 That was the intent of making this change was to make it not a censure. 10:30:05 What about adding the word safe enforcement of laws imposing criminal penalties for the safe planting, cultivating, purchasing, you know, really making the distinction that this is not about criminal activity, you know, James pointed out a couple of examples where there was was concern where enthagens were involved 10:30:27 but. 10:30:31 But we recognize that there's a difference in what this community is bringing forward to us as a safe, supported therapeutic environment. 10:30:39 I guess I'm okay with that defanging this insure. 10:30:43 But I would rather just talk about the state changes that we want. 10:30:48 I guess I feel like, if we make this acceptable to the people that it's telling to do different things. 10:30:55 Then we're just defanging it. But really what we want and I'd love to have more conversation about decriminalization versus legalization. 10:31:02 And these other issues that are actually what we're trying to do. 10:31:07 Oh, yeah. James, sorry. Go ahead. I'm just wondering. I'm just looking at the the resolution language here, and and whether this it's could just be reconciled with section 6, which declares that this resolution does not authorize or name activities commercial sales and 10:31:25 Theogens possessing or distributing these materials in schools, and driving under of these materials disturbance, because from my perspective, those are the things that are would be residually concerning is concerned about using these in a spiritual experience. 10:31:40 But if you're driving while on them, then. 10:31:46 I'm wondering if the language in section 2 and section 6 can maybe just be tweaked. So there are. 10:31:57 I like that. I also think section 3 should be the first one, because to me that's the that's the lead. 10:32:06 Maybe take section 2, make it part of section 6 brings number 3 to number one. 10:32:15 Bye! 10:32:14 Umhm. Okay. Yeah. Go ahead. Sheriff. 10:32:18 Yeah, sorry. I wish you could see me raise my hand, and I guess my, the thing with Number 2 was, I? 10:32:25 Kinda and I think we're all getting on what I I think is kind of the point here is, I guess I would like to, you know, something like we would like to see a future. 10:32:34 We're laws imposing criminal penalties for planting and on and on and on are no longer necessary or no longer. 10:32:43 You know that that the idea that the bloggage changed? 10:32:46 At the legislative level, so that those are no longer concerns, and I think, like Greg, you keep talking about, mention. 10:32:56 You know, decriminalization versus legalization, and I think that that's an important point that that needs to be it kind of puts these in perspective for me, anyway, that the legalization is the way to go. 10:33:10 But of so does everyone else, probably. 10:33:12 I like that text. I can work on the section 2, 3, and 6 issues. 10:33:20 I think I understand those. 10:33:24 Doesn't. It does lead off. Well. 10:33:33 Okay? And then let's see. 10:33:35 So I can work on those Kate's gonna work on the whereas in the Section 4 language, I can get that back in here through Carolyn. 10:33:49 And we want to do next week we can take action on the final resolution. Can I ask Sheriff, the prosecutor, about Section one request that the investigation and that they're now there. Force, investigation, arrest and prosecution of adults engaged in anthea gen-related 10:34:05 activities, believe, but not limited to, should be among the Jefferson County's lowest law enforcement priorities how does that so sit with you? 10:34:13 I think it already is. That's what they both said to me when I asked that question. 10:34:19 Yeah, that's yeah. And I guess that's how I feel. 10:34:23 And and I guess I feel kind of guilty in a way, because I feel like don't ask me that. 10:34:27 It's already there. 10:34:28 Right. But James Dave said to me that when we talk first on Friday it was like, but I thought we all worked well together. 10:34:38 I'm like we do. That's why we're calling you, and I'm sorry I was late to call you James, and you were out of town. 10:34:42 You were at a conference, and so I mean there was. 10:34:45 But I. The thing that everyone in the room should know is that we all do work well together. And so I mean there was. 10:34:50 But I, the thing that everyone in the room should know is that we all do work well, can collaborate, and I really appreciate that that we have a colleagueal environment. 10:34:56 But between amongst our elected in Jefferson County and in my 2 in a third years, as the Commissioner. 10:35:03 Now I have seen other counties not have the luxury of that, and it's debilitating, and something like this would not get off the ground because there wouldn't be conversations happening like you're seeing happen right now. 10:35:15 So super grateful for that. Okay? Any last thoughts before we open up for public comment. 10:35:25 Alright! Well, here we are! Again public comment. Would anyone in the room or online like to make public comment about this topic and folks who made comments earlier? If you have something that you've heard a comment about this topic and folks who made comments earlier if you have something that you've heard you can comment again based 10:35:38 on if you didn't include something earlier. If you have something new that you want to react. 10:35:47 Okay. And anyone can speak again. So we'll start with Krista, and then we'll go. 10:35:52 We'll go to an online webinar and you have 3 min. Thank you very much. 10:35:58 I'm Krista Demol, and I'm a licensed mental health therapist, so we'll we'll start with Krista, and then we'll we'll go to an online. 10:36:02 We'll alternate him out and you have 3 min. Thank you very much. 10:36:05 I'm Christa Demel, and I'm a licensed mental health therapist, and I want to comment to what you said about how drugs kill people. 10:36:12 They do. And from my perspective, it's actually the trauma that happens first, that then leads to people doing drugs that kill people. 10:36:19 And so the reason this is important to me is because when we heal the trauma that people have gone through, then they don't perpetrate that on other people, because it's hurt people that hurt people. 10:36:35 And so this medicine is used to heal that trauma, so that we're not continuing to traumatize people who then kill themselves through the drug use that, you see, and thank you very much for the work that you do. 10:36:47 It's so important. I'm very grateful for the service that you provide, and I think that it's really important to understand the role in which trauma place in the reason that people turn to drugs as a mental health therapist. 10:37:02 I can say people are always doing the best they can, and when they don't have access to things that work they do end up killing themselves. 10:37:11 But it's not the drugs that's killing them. 10:37:13 It is the trauma. So I just wanted to thank you. 10:37:18 Thank you. I think everything you have said has been consistent with my own. 10:37:23 Hey! James? Fyi! It sounds like your mic is kind of quiet online. 10:37:29 So if you don't mind trying to hear you, James Yay, I'm going to twist the podium here. 10:37:38 Anyone online, we'll click, raise hand if you'd like to speak alright. 10:37:41 And Mister Tiersh, welcome! You have 3 min. 10:37:46 Thank you, Commissioners. Thanks for the conversation. I want to start off by first saying that I fully support this resolution, and agreed with the Commissioner Brotherton about the decriminalization of all drugs. 10:37:59 I mean this and this war on drugs, this insanity that we've been going through in this country has got to stop and I disagree with the notion of removing that from the resolution I believe that position needs to be stated again, and again at every opportunity to emphasize the 10:38:14 importance of stopping the prosecution of people who have done nothing wrong. 10:38:21 It just needs needs to be settled. And so, you know why water this down. 10:38:27 I just don't see the point other than trying to go along and get along. 10:38:32 No, make a statement, stick with it as far as some of the testimony or comments we've just heard from the other elected. 10:38:42 You know Commissioner, Commissioner Dean made an important point that you know the Board of County Commissioners. 10:38:49 Is, in fact, both the executive and legislative branch of county government, and as such well, I'll expand on that and say, Look, you have a role. 10:39:01 You have also have a tool that you're disposal, that every other legislative branch has and that's called the budget. 10:39:06 And if you want the other elected to do something or to not do something, you have the ability to control that through the use of statements that you incorporate into your budget, budget, you can, for example, say that you can you can place restrictions, that say the prosecutor may not expend any 10:39:25 money's for dot dot Dot, Dot, or the sheriff main not dot dot dot, and you can control their activities that way. 10:39:32 Yeah, I know you all want to get along, and you all have a collegial relationship. 10:39:35 But you know what sometimes you've got to force people to do things and that's one of the most powerful tools that you have. 10:39:42 You know the power of the purse, and you know not necessarily saying you have to use it in this case. 10:39:48 But there might be some future electeds that don't disagree I don't agree with the approach that you're taking, and they may may choose to to enforce things in ways that you don't want. 10:39:59 So you have the ability to regulate that. And I would suggest that you consider doing so. 10:40:05 You know I I'm glad to hear that both the sheriff and the prosecutor agree that their oath of office is important, and that they should, in fact, follow all the laws of the State, but I don't see that actually happening. 10:40:19 We know that, in fact, the prosecutor is very clear about selectively choosing what he does and doesn't prosecute. 10:40:25 I've been injured by by something that he refused to prosecute, even though there was clear evidence to the fact that several laws had been broken. 10:40:36 But yeah, he refused to take it up. So you know, let's be clear and honest about the fact that you don't really support all the loss equally. 10:40:44 Do you no, I don't think so. Anyway, I don't want to make too many enemies here. 10:40:47 Thanks a lot. 10:40:49 Thanks, Mister, we'll we'll make respond to all the comments after we hear all the public comments. 10:40:55 We'll go back into the room. Anyone else here like to make a public comment. So we'll go back into the room. Anyone else here like to make a public comment. 10:40:59 I don't need 3 min, but I wanted to address the subject. 10:41:04 It keeps coming up about decriminalization versus legalization. 10:41:10 And from my perspective I applaud you and this group for bringing decriminalization as an issue forward, blazing the path and showing that we support that. 10:41:23 If we go with the legalization model like Oregon did it puts it in a recentrictive and controlled just for providers, and then it becomes very expensive. 10:41:37 And as a community, some of the people that suffer the most are community members that are not of a, you know, wealth, status, and insurance is not going to pay for this ever in the medical industry. 10:41:50 So if we show that decriminalization is able to be responsible, and we care for each other in a community setting, then there is a place for legalization but I feel it needs to be happening simultaneously, and that legalization has its path through therapists therapists and doctors and 10:42:12 clinics, but as a community in togetherness and helping one another, that decriminalization will protect us. 10:42:21 So I appreciate that you're working on that. Thank you. 10:42:24 Thank you. Suzanne. We'll go back online and bring this beyond over. 10:42:29 Oh! 10:42:31 I have no comment. Thank you very much. 10:42:33 Thank you. George. Alright. Hello! His hand. See no other hands virtually we'll go back into the room. 10:42:41 Anyone else here, like please come up, sir. 10:42:49 My name is Dan Marillion. I live in Port Ludlow. 10:42:52 Thank you, commissioners, and a prosecuting attorney and Sheriff Noel, I'm glad you're here engaged in this discussion. 10:43:07 I appreciate the need for for the people in their representatives to demand solutions to our Fentanyl crisis. 10:43:15 Furthermore, I applaud the thoughtful but contentious struggle in the past. 10:43:20 Legislature, session searching for effective response to drug possession and addiction. 10:43:26 Yet I stand before you today asking to have Anthea. 10:43:33 Gen's treated differently. I'm asking for decriminalization. 10:43:37 We have seen emphasis, patrols, instituted by the sheriff's office to focus our attention on dangerous trends in our behavior. 10:43:45 Conversely, if the users of these Antigens conduct themselves as promised in the resolution, we will have earned the D emphasis that decriminalization warrants. 10:43:59 We've talked a lot about the benefits of it, and I wanna just stress one thing that maybe was not touched on our veterans deserve unwavering support for their commitments. 10:44:13 And in some cases they're sacrificed. The Va. 10:44:16 Is currently studying soedelics as a mental health treatment for veterans. 10:44:21 The Va. Is building off, of peer reviewed studies that facilitated the Fba to grant siliccybin the status of breakthrough therapy for treatment, resistance, depression. 10:44:35 I think. 10:44:39 As these studies come together as our society differentiates between some of the dangerous drugs in our culture and some of the supportive drugs in our culture that decriminalization is is a step to making a statement about that all drugs were not created equal you mentioned drugs I've made 10:45:04 that same mistake. It's plant medicines. 10:45:07 It's in theogens. So thank you very much. 10:45:10 Oh! I'd like to say that, of course the the studies are important, but these mushrooms around here grow on trees so they're very available and we ask for more freedom to explore the benefits in our homes and private settings. 10:45:30 Thank you. Thank you. And then cal pastures. Hmm! 10:45:38 I don't know anyone online. You can hit raise hand and we will come to you. 10:45:41 But anyone else in the room like to make comments. Please. 10:45:48 Hello! Good day, everyone. My name is Jenny Grace, and I am a mother of 3. 10:45:56 I'm a survivor of sexual abuse. 10:45:58 I am a healer myself, and what I mean by that is simply I'm someone who's shown up to take responsibility for healing myself and for being a responsible part of the community. 10:46:11 So I'm here today because the question that I keep hearing is is, How do we make change? 10:46:19 Right, and I hear from all of you that you support us and what we're doing, and that your hearts really believe that this work is important, right? 10:46:31 So what's stopping us from making these changes? And I definitely hear you when you say I want to stay in my lane, I want to not encroach on other people's rights. 10:46:43 And I wanna say to that, you know, I don't think that's what's being asked. 10:46:49 I think. What's being asked is that you stand up for what you believe in? 10:46:53 For what's right in your heart, and that the people around you have put you in these positions of power because they believe in you, and they believe in your ability to access your heart and to stand up for what you believe in, and I believe that if you do that you'll be supported by your 10:47:11 peers, because I think that we all want that we all want a system of people who are strong enough to face adversity and to really show their hearts and say, I believe in this personally, and and I'm wanting this change because I know in my heart it's for the better I am I'm a 10:47:32 former military spouse, and so I've had the honor and the pleasure of working with wounded warrior. 10:47:39 I am also embarking on a journey to do this work in Peru with directly with the Government, who has a fund, I think, and they are supporting this work. 10:47:54 They are going to be sending 6 of 6 wounded warriors a month down I'm supporting this project to be able to heal from Ptsd. 10:48:03 So, not only is it my own personal experience that this work has saved my life. 10:48:09 I've been doing this work for 7 years I've been assisting with this work for 2 years. 10:48:15 I have seen hundreds of lives change an incredible increment from the benefits of being able to take responsibility for your own healing. 10:48:27 I believe that's the benefit that we're seeing here with this medicine is that it puts a person in touch with the ability that they have to heal themselves in a supported environment. 10:48:38 So I thank you very much for your time and your consideration of this motion, and if you have any questions, please know I would love to engage in more conversation. But thank you, thanks, Jenny. 10:48:52 See no one online, anyone else in the room. Yes, please. Hmm! 10:48:58 I already spoke. But Hello! And Hello, Sheriff! 10:49:04 Online, I just I really value order. I do. I value the necessity, the the necessary order to end the laws that we have in place. 10:49:17 And I really value that. You took an oath to uphold order, and then I think about nature, and nature has order. 10:49:26 But then, how does nature and anything evolve right? So nature keeps things in balance. 10:49:33 It took an oath to keep life moving in the direction of evolution and continued genius, and then so Nature's, you know, going along. 10:49:43 And then there's one little thing that goes out of balance, and rather than hierarchies coming in and saying, Well, I just had my my toe stepped on, and I don't think so. 10:49:52 It actually happens in that community that there is an evolutionary process where something emerges and says, Hey, we need to actually, maybe go this way because of what we're now learning. 10:50:05 And in order to evolve in harmony. 10:50:08 We're gonna propose this, what do you think? And there is no again, there is no, there is no hierarchical structure, and yet everything is still imbalance and abides. 10:50:21 Does that make sense? Hold it? Yeah. And so I really appreciate that. 10:50:25 And how do we evolve as a community if we don't go oh, we're learning these things. 10:50:31 And so rather than like oh, I'm I'm censoring you, or I'm overriding you, hey? 10:50:36 This is I'm proposing this so we can flourish more because aren't we here to learn and grow? 10:50:42 And I do really understand. We don't want people driving around on any substance, you know, regardless of what it is, because you know, I take mushrooms, and I don't get in a car, you know I did when I was 16, and I'll never do that again. 10:50:55 So I do understand, and when we don't decriminalize and put the power in the hands of the people, we limit our ability to then bring this more to the forefront and actually have education around, why, you wouldn't get in a car, and drive we open up that potential whereas if 10:51:10 we keep it limited, we we, in a way, do limit that potential, because in our education has to kind of slide underground. 10:51:20 And yeah, that's all I wanna say. So. Thank you for hearing me, and thank you for your work. 10:51:25 All of you. Yeah, thanks. Cheryl. 10:51:28 Anyone else in the room. Andy, please. 10:51:34 Hello! My name is Andy Fisher Price, and I spoke earlier, and something that I did not mention is that I have supported in many of these plant medicine circles, and if you are around at the end, when people are talking about their experiences, and their inspiration that they are 10:51:58 feeling to take into their lives. It all centers around. 10:52:04 I want to be a better person. I want to give more to my community. 10:52:07 I want to be a better father or mother, and it seems that there is this general agreement that, like this is obvious. 10:52:18 This is obvious, and that you personally, Mr. Prosecutor, and you, Mr. 10:52:23 Sheriff at home, like already, are in agreement that the law is outdated, and there's a feeling that an allegiance to this outdated law. 10:52:33 But if we look at history thankfully, there were people at the community level who decided to act in accordance with what was actually right instead of adhering to an outdated and unjust law. 10:52:51 So I just would like to say that history will be kind to you and to you, Mr. 10:52:57 Brotherton, because this is obviously the way that things are going. 10:53:00 This is obviously right. So I don't understand why we would refuse the opportunity to pass a resolution that would would ultimately help pave the way for a change in an outdated and unjust law. 10:53:20 Thank you so much. Thank you. 10:53:24 Anyone else in the room? 10:53:29 Hi, Jim, I spoke earlier. My name is Rebecca, and I wanna address this sort of question mark of decrimization versus legalization. 10:53:42 And first sort of give the context that I see, which is that we're all navigating, whether it's personally or institutionally, we're all navigating very complex realities and trying to navigate them in a way where we can build a better world that we all know is possible and 10:54:00 that we all believe in, and I hear in this conversation that we're doing this collaboratively, maybe from different angles. 10:54:07 But I want to invite that. And because what I see in this meeting behind me is that we all bring this mosaic of different lived experiences, whether it's addiction or survivors of sexual abuse, or people who have gone through the foster care system, or veterans you know 10:54:25 these are complex things. And we have created this peer support model that really addresses some of these things, that all of you encounter on a daily basis. 10:54:35 And so I see that as very exciting and very energizing to be in this conversation, to be in this moment, and would caution against legalization because it kind of closes the door on the equitable accessibility to this this. 10:54:54 I I don't want to call it a solution, because not a solution for everyone. 10:54:57 But it is a possibility. It's a potential for a solution. 10:55:03 And I would really hate to see a natural substance have gateways to it in this way of capitalization and commercialization. 10:55:17 So I just wanted to address that. And again, just give a big bow of gratitude, each one of you, for being in this collaborative and cooperative conversation of how to do this. 10:55:30 And how to do this within our modern world. And I'll just say again, just kind of I don't need 3 min but to wrap up sort of why I support this resolution is that. 10:55:45 All behavior, is inherited and contracted by our relations. 10:55:52 So this model that we get to propose is our way of sort of infecting people with a possibility or healing and relational capacities. 10:56:03 And I think this beauty of what we're presenting is that this way of relational healing is now proposed in this institutional manner. 10:56:14 And so again, I just wanna say a little statement and support this resolution and say, Thank you to everyone for being here. 10:56:21 Thank you for all your journey. Thanks, Rebecca. Anyone else. 10:56:31 Hi! Everyone. My name is Juan Carlos. I just wanna make 3 quick statements about the conversation, and I just wanna start by saying, Thank you so much. 10:56:40 To the district attorney and the sheriff for engaging on this issue, which is so important to so many people in this community. 10:56:45 There's a lot of conversation about the relationship between decriminalization and law enforcement. 10:56:52 And so in the context of section 4 and Section 2 that were discussed, I just want to be clear that when it comes to acknowledging the use of the public engaging with constraint controlled substances as a public health issue, I really want to draw attention to this is not a Binary 10:57:08 between our use of harm reduction measures and law enforcement. 10:57:11 I think law enforcement plays a very critical role in this issue. 10:57:18 In particular with the use of sales or public intoxication. 10:57:23 I think we've seen that areas that have successfully dealt with these sorts of crises like the Netherlands and Florida have not decriminalized sales. 10:57:35 They've not decriminalized, you know, public drug consumption and intoxication. 10:57:40 And they've continued to enforce their laws successfully while treating it as a public health issue. 10:57:46 So I just want to call that out. I think maybe a little word smithing there can make that clear that there's not a binary in that. 10:57:50 We still want to engage our law enforcement, so that people who have disassociated and disengaged from society and are no longer capable of of essentially helping themselves, especially the youth who are clearly indicating, through their self-destructive behavior, in public that we can use law enforcement to support them I think that's 10:58:11 really important. The reason why I think that's really important is because, you know, I moved here from California. 10:58:15 But 2 and a half years ago, and I saw over it decade. 10:58:22 The way in which the culture and society disintegrated, and partly through the the ways in which law enforcement were not able to be effective in in supporting that community. 10:58:41 So I think it's really important that we engage law enforcement here with problematic use of control substances which I don't believe that anthogens should be. 10:58:50 And then, with regards to Section 2, I just want to call out that nowhere in that section is commercial sales or commercial manufacturer included. 10:59:01 It's really uncommon to personal community noncommercial activities and so I just want to be clear that I think again, a little boardsmithing can make clear that we're discussing not activities which are legitimately in the interest in the public interest of being regulated in 10:59:19 ways to protect all of us. But we're really talking about, you know, personal activities engaging with with these substances in noncommercial, personal and communal ways, and yeah, and so I'll just wrap up by saying that I so appreciate this call to action for our state 10:59:37 legislature to engage on this issue and that through decriminalization we are going to increase access education within our community and ensure that people who are in unsafe circumstances can reach out for support. 10:59:48 Thank you. Thank you very much. Alright. Anyone else with us or on that would like to make a comment today. 10:59:57 Hello, Aaron, hey? Again? Yeah, thank you all. So much for the rich discussion you're having. 11:00:02 I appreciate everything that's been said by all of you. 11:00:07 I did wanna make one clarifying comment about decreim versus legalization, which is that decriminalization can also happen at the state level. 11:00:16 So it's not just locally that we can decrim, but at the same time most legalization efforts at the State level are for regulation only, and our current legislators have not been open to including personal use. 11:00:28 Decriminalization and community use. And so it's really, we really need to make a statement and also locally, so that they understand that the people in the State also want decrim included in State legislation. 11:00:44 And I guess the other element is, I know that we need to change the state level, to ultimately have full decrim here, but there is a possibility that at the State level they will. 11:00:55 There's a likely possibility that they will pass only regulated legalization. 11:00:59 This resolution becomes even more important for us to have a culture here where people can still work with these medicines and community work in peer support models, have education. 11:01:08 That's outside of that regulated model. So I think it's extra important to protect ourselves, even if the law doesn't change in the ways that we want it to even if it's just a local culture where we don't enforce these laws and we don't prosecute cases concerning at 11:01:24 Theogens, and I would really love to talk to you more about that Policy Directive, because it would be really amazing if we could pass something like that locally, yeah, I think that's all I have for now. 11:01:34 But I'm just really grateful to live here with all of you. 11:01:36 Thank you. Alright. We're a few minutes. We're late for our exact sorry, but that we'll just finish this up and give a chance for a response. 11:01:46 Any other public comment from the room. 11:01:49 Okay. And one more. Call on line. Anyone want to make some public comment on this topic? 11:01:57 Okay, looks like we've gone through that. 11:02:01 So I will close public comment and give everyone, including Sheriff Knoll and prosecutor. 11:02:05 Kennedy a chance to just kind of respond to public comments. 11:02:09 And you know last looks. Thank you, Commissioner Brotherton, so thank you. 11:02:14 Everyone for showing up today and sharing your comments with what and the rest of the county. 11:02:18 Of course I appreciate that, and I appreciate your input. 11:02:21 There were a couple of comments made earlier that I did want to address specifically with respect to the prosecuting attorney's office, not taking particular cases. 11:02:32 It's true. We do exercise our discretion in terms of which cases we prosecute which ones we don't. 11:02:38 We don't don't base those on. We based on the facts that are presented to us, cases where we don't think there's a reasonable chance of us ever being able to obtain a at trial or in cases we typically don't prosecute that's apparent to us 11:02:54 that's going to be apparent to a defense attorney, and that's likely not to be a very good use of time. 11:03:02 And with the the other comment about prosecuting people for doing nothing wrong. 11:03:10 Since the Blake decision has come down we haven't prosecuted one for possession of a controlled substance, but we do pro prosecute people for car car stealing mail, burglarizing homes and businesses and those are drug related. 11:03:27 And prosecute, and so. 11:03:31 And those are definitely with to the use of controlled substances. 11:03:38 And, as I said before, but I'll repeat again, I'm not aware of really any linkage between those activeities and. 11:03:47 Alright, thanks. James Cheernold, last thoughts. 11:03:50 Yeah, I, just I wanted to like has been said, Thank everyone for being part of this. 11:03:56 I liked it when I think it was the last woman that spoke said that she so happy to leave her grateful over. 11:04:03 I feel the same exact way I don't think you'd see something like this in a lot of other places. 11:04:09 But I I I guess just, I guess really the one thing I wanted to say at at the risk of it, Bug, exposing my ignorance, you know the decreinalization. 11:04:21 We're just legislation, I thought, why would you want to just decriminalize it? 11:04:24 Why not just make it legal? But I that's more complex than than I realized. 11:04:29 So I'm gonna be doing some thinking on that. 11:04:32 But again, thank you, everyone, and it's great to see people coming forward for something they believe in and trying to make some changes. 11:04:40 So thank you. 11:04:42 Thanks. Joe, yeah, I just first, I have to say Tom, tears will never cease to surprise me. 11:04:53 So. Thank you, Tom. The timing of this is so interesting. 11:04:57 I have not even parsed what happened as of midnight last night, when the legislative session ended so I don't know where he landed on drug possession. 11:05:04 What we call the Blake case, or it sounds like Aaron. 11:05:09 Give us some intel, the end Agend Bill, or the Psychedelics Bill, which is a task force. 11:05:14 Anyway, there's like so many moving parts at this very moment that I haven't had a chance to dig into, but will inform the next legislative session. 11:05:23 And what happens in the interim, as we prepare for that legislative session, so I will look forward to following your activities on the legislative front as well. 11:05:35 You know, I just want to call out that the a lot of what the county deals with is the fall out of of traumatic experiences that, you know are families. 11:05:48 Experience, dealing with poverty, trying to be the safety net, and it's it's just really powerful to hear people who have come through trauma and obviously speak from such a position of strength of inner strength. 11:06:05 And I think that is, that speaks for itself in terms of the value of plant medicine, and also the strength of the community that you have, that you have created a safe and therapeutic support system for this community which is just it's really profound and great to see because we deal 11:06:27 with the folks who have not been able to access that kind of medicine and strength for themselves. 11:06:36 So thank you. I learn a lot every time we talk about this. 11:06:42 Yeah, I was, just, I would like to thank James and Joe for showing up today. 11:06:47 I'm not wasn't the most organized. 11:06:49 Creator, creator of this agenda item. I'm still like, I said earlier, learning the ropes as I go, but happy to learn with all of you, and grateful. 11:06:58 You all showed up, and this has been one of the most meaningful conversations in my time as a county commissioner and that's because of all of you, everyone who showed up for the conversation. 11:07:08 So I look forward to working with you as we go forward, and continuing to support our community in this way, and as I mentioned, I've had real firsthand experiences with my chosen family going gracefully into desk and living gracefully in life with the use of enthagens and personally 11:07:27 supported of that path forward for everybody. Great? Yeah, thank you. Everyone. 11:07:33 And I hope, see you next week, too, and we'll just talk about envy agents every week if we can fill it. 11:07:37 But you know, I hope it doesn't come across as as if I'm in opposition, you know. It's what are the best tools to move this forward, and I really want to help. But I'm happy to go with decriminalization. I still, see issues. With it. 11:07:52 You know, I mean, we often have to make laws or policies for the lowest common denominator, not for best intentions, and that seems to be how you guys are operating. 11:08:02 I do also notice that there's some to be no barriers in Jeffrey County right now. 11:08:06 I mean we had. You know, people have been here 6 months have been keyed into it. 11:08:10 We have, you know. We thought we were going to have 40 people at this event. 11:08:13 Then we had 250, so I mean, you know just I do acknowledge from that that this is a it seems like a pretty good community, and it seems like there are not a lot of barriers right now. 11:08:23 So I mean, if there were more barriers I would be more inclined to operate locally on this. 11:08:29 I still really interested in helping on the statewide level. 11:08:33 I think the changes that we've talked about, and I'm fully in support of, and I hope the conversation continues, and you know I'll talk to the legislators about this, and I think we can be. 11:08:42 We can move this forward by I still this legalization, I mean, legalization is hard to do the right way. 11:08:49 But any policy that's going to go through the State laws is still going to be a policy that are going to have unintended consequences. 11:08:54 So I just I wanna talk more about this. And I think I understand the perspective is why decriminalization is a priority. 11:09:03 But I think reckoning the probable path and the other inputs into the State legislature having a strategy for legalization would be a good parallel platform. 11:09:15 I think we'll we'll stop there on this topic. 11:09:17 We're a few minutes late for our executives or our closed session, but really appreciate everyone coming, and we'll plan on 10 Amish. 11:09:28 I think we'll work next week for our executives. So our closed session but really appreciate everyone coming, and we'll plan on 10 Amish. 11:09:33 I think we'll work next week to take this up and hopefully get some action that satisfies everyone. 11:09:35 Next. Monday around 10010300, right! We have the health update with Dr. 11:09:39 Barry, so more like 1030. But we'll do it in the morning again. 11:09:54 We'll do it in the morning. Again. That's part of our health update. Well, we've already done it. Yeah, we we started with this sort of help that we all sit on, too. But all right. 11:10:04 So we'll we'll get people a moment and we're gonna get together. I think everyone on our closed session is actually here right? 11:10:07 Say, everyone, you guys. 11:10:07 It's, Yup! Yup! We'll just take a minute. 11:10:11 You! 11:10:10 Thanks. Guys. See you later. Okay? 11:10:20 Yeah, they bought it. 11:10:26 Oh, here comes the windows. Oh, yeah, come down! 11:10:37 Look at that. You don't need a microphone, Sarah. It's just us. 11:10:41 Thanks, James. Thanks for coming down the whispering prosecutor. 11:10:48 So quiet! 11:10:55 Yeah, right? We're still, we're just clearing the room. 11:11:00 And we're gonna go into closed session prop late. 11:11:03 So, and we will come back with for any action before we lunch. 11:11:08 Break. Oh, sure. Okay. Let me get back to the agenda. 11:11:13 Alright! We're going to go into a closed session. 11:11:17 If 15 min really enough. 11:11:21 Let's let's say 30 min. We're gonna go into a close session with the county administrator and human resources director. 11:11:28 Discuss that portion of a meeting during which to discuss adopting the strategy or position to be taken by the governing body during a course of any collective bargaining, professional negotiations, or grievance or mediation, process proceedings, or reviewing the proposals made in negotiations or proceedings 11:11:45 while in progress exemption is outlined in the open public Meetings Act, Rcw. 11:11:50 42 dot 3,140 parentheses, 4% parentheses. 11:11:54 B. And we're going to go in at 1110, and we'll come out at 1140. 11:41:28 Dangerous levels, morning morning people breathing. Hey! The rock stars are. 11:41:36 What song are you gonna play for us this time? Oh, my goodness, that is something I did not know. 11:41:45 That is fantastic, alright, I will. We're coming out of closed session with no action taken, and we are back in a session with no action taken, and we are back in regular session this April 20 fourth meeting the bocc and we're 11:42:02 joined by the public works, director, county engineer, as well as staff, to talk about Brad. 11:42:07 Is that what we're talking about? Yeah, Commissioners, as I like to do every year it when Crab bust those upon the county, there's certificate of good practice for our Public Works Department is to have our public works director Monty reinders and his staff. 11:42:24 Come receive that certificate, cause it. It's a small piece of paper, but it it signifies a great deal, and I'm gonna put up on the screen. 11:42:36 What it, what it signifies. There are 13 major areas. 11:42:40 We're public working, has to be compliant with rules promulgated by the crab, and money can go into much more detail on these than I ever could. 11:42:51 But it runs the gamut, you know. They gotta have maintenance management procedures in a system to management. 11:42:58 That's you can't have a vacancy in the county engineer position for very long. 11:43:04 Always have to have one. If if you lose yours, you gotta go get another one, money doubles as our county engineer as well as a public works director saving us some money in the process, and then there are other things that you can see here right here the 11:43:23 Traffic Law Enforcement expenditures. We've got a certify that we're not taking more money out of the road fund property tax wise for traffic law enforcement. 11:43:32 We have to complete a spreadsheet, laying out the cost of traffic law enforcement, and how much we divert from the road fund and to your credit commissioners. 11:43:44 You've reduced that diversion a hundred 1,000 over the last 2 years, 50,000 in each of the last 2 years, 2,022 in the current year. 11:43:54 But what this does is. It's a certificate of professionalism and I just want to hand this to my. 11:44:02 This is for 2022, but once again we have a great Public Works department, and, Monty, the floor is yours. 11:44:10 I appreciate it in the board as well as Mark indicated, we have to go through this process each year to ensure we're following all these processes, and Mark had pulled up on the screen. 11:44:27 Thanks for doing that. Mark what this does in the end is ensure that we're still eligible to receive the motor vehicle fuel tax for the road program. 11:44:40 It's about 1.4 5 million per year. So if a county fails to receive its certificate of good practice, then they can start sanctioning you. 11:44:54 Of course they would take steps before they took a heavy handed approach like that, but the County Road Administration Board, which is what Crab stands for. 11:45:05 It takes this very seriously. And again, there's a number of things we have to do. 11:45:12 I brought the system public works, director engineering services manager with me and Connor Ferry, who's our I don't know engineering technician who does much of the the data entry and reporting to Crab with me. 11:45:29 So Connor took over those duties when we and Eric does, and the staff, but particularly Eric, does a lot of the work to make all these things happen like the 6 year transportation improvement program is a you know, annual planning process. 11:45:52 We go through and that takes a lot of work, and we don't have a dedicated, you know, transportation plan, or any longer, so that a lot of that works fall into Eric's shoulders. 11:46:03 And of course you know we do a hearing every year, and we're continually looking at our priorities with the board, and where we should spend our money, and what types of grants we should go after, what kind of projects we should do. 11:46:15 So, as you know, Eric is primarily leading that process, and then, when it comes to our, you know, capital program actually building the projects. 11:46:26 Again Eric and the staff under Eric are making all of that happen. 11:46:33 So we've got a lot of projects going on some big projects. 11:46:35 Bridges, and other culvert replacements, so pretty, exciting time to be working in public works. 11:46:43 But again, yeah, thanks to all the staff who make all of these things happen and ensure that we follow the rick wax. 11:46:56 The Washington Administrative Code in the administration of our road program. 11:47:01 So thank you. Great any questions or anything, or just great appreciation. 11:47:09 I mean the Public Works Department, the roads, the work that you guys do is definitely we punch so far above our weight in Jefferson County, due to the efforts of you guys in the the capacity that you build far above what we can get from the motor vehicle tax and all that so 11:47:25 we' appreciate all the work that you do, and I have no doubt that this will. 11:47:30 This is a this is routine for your department, but it is still a lotatory, and thank you. 11:47:35 Thank you. 1 one question, because my district is Port Townsend. 11:47:42 People like to complain to me about the roads, and you know where exactly are you talking about? 11:47:48 And it's always within the city that they're talking about, not the county. 11:47:52 So it's it's fun to be able to, you know. 11:47:53 Help them come to the realization that county rods are really good, but but just curious. 11:47:59 Any potential for getting that transportation planner position filled? Is there? 11:48:05 Is it open and not getting appants? Can we be helping to amplify that, or like? 11:48:09 What do you think is the future of that role? 11:48:13 And I say this out of guilt, because I can never attend the Prtp meetings. It seems I often have conflicts, and so. 11:48:24 Hmm, position with Kosh, and we've been more focused on trying to make sure we have enough project management staff. 11:48:32 And really our effort. In the last 12 to 18 months was to get our right away position fill, which we did with Colette, which is been an amazing hire for us, as you know, and then to fill retirements like the position I took Eric's very good at doing the 11:48:53 transportation, planning portion of our program, because. 11:49:01 He has developed a lot of the relationships with the other agencies and people in those agencies which is a lot of that. 11:49:09 What that program is. So at some point we may transition some of that work to some of our other people, but we're also approaching our budget with caution. You know. 11:49:19 So again, right now we're able to manage the planning components of our program. 11:49:27 But we're, you know, we're really trying to folks on the project delivery portions right now. 11:49:35 Eric. Is there anything you'd like to add to that question from the Commissioner? 11:49:42 You get a mic. Sorry. 11:49:46 I think what we've noticed. I mean, at least in 10 years I've been there. 11:49:49 So it's a hard position to to fill as a person and as a like managing the material that I mean, it's sort of it's kind of Evan flow Flood, you know, as far as I don't know, so it's just distribution 11:50:09 of tasks and staff. So, yeah. 11:50:14 I would say our motivation to fill that position has not been as high as it might have been if we didn't have someone with Eric's talents here. 11:50:22 But right now we're taking advantage of what Eric can bring to the table for us. 11:50:26 So, and I know it can take away your capacity to be managing somebody new and so there's that consideration to. 11:50:39 It's easier to just do it yourself right then to manage somebody else doing it. 11:50:43 Hmm, okay. Well, I already shared it with everyone else, but I had my chat. 11:50:49 Bot come up with other Payment Marketing Company names, because I think our pavement marketing names are. 11:50:52 They're just too. There's so much opportunity there. So I'm going to share them with you, too. 11:50:57 And if you guys can pass these on, I'd appreciate it. 11:51:00 Oh, you're not gonna like patent them, or what it no, no, no, these these are public. 11:51:06 You're gonna find yourself open source yeah, these are creative commons. Yeah, straight line pavement. 11:51:10 That's pretty easy. Line them up like that, or on the mark on the maybe a little bit on the app. But you know I'm the market for a race. 11:51:23 I see it's like getting going, like passing through instead of Kellis of Harbor. 11:51:29 It's one of those active names. Simple Google. Okay? 11:51:36 I think that's actually one of the ones that we had. 11:51:38 So I mean, that's just existing. That's not new, generative. 11:51:41 AI is what I'm using. Yeah. And I think our contractor for the next 3 years is applied payment mark special specialized payment. 11:51:52 Apply a line, right apply line. That's a good one. 11:51:58 Apparently it's not called a skip stripe. 11:52:02 It's called a broken pavement, marking broken pavement. 11:52:05 Marking, broken pavement, marking broken pavement, marking broken pavement, marking broken pavement, marking broken pavement marking, broken pavement, marking broken pavement, marking broken pavement marking broken pavement, marking, broken pavement, mar that we would I could use with my John put me on the spot. 11:52:17 here our vms recessed pavement markers or raised pavement markers. 11:52:28 Protect, okay, those are rubble strips, even if it's not if it's just painted, it can still be a rumble strip like the ones on the other side driveway market driveway market. 11:52:43 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what they call those. 11:52:46 I'll come up with a name. Sounds like it. 11:52:53 Okay. Bit too many as well. Okay, well, we're done with this agenda item. 11:53:01 I have an agenda item that these guys might like to think the capital budget passed. 11:53:05 Oh, yeah. State capital budget passed, and there were about 82 million dollars a projects in Jefferson County. 11:53:12 Excellent and I know Eric likes maps, so it's not as good as your tip map. 11:53:17 But if I share it, please, if I can share. 11:53:23 The city of. 11:53:29 I and 74. Yeah. 11:53:36 Or for swap. See a green god in the vicinity of that. 11:53:44 So, yeah, they did. I mean, so this is the you just hover over. 11:53:50 So Fort Warden got money for the Pda. Fire alarm system doesn't have the amounts, though. 11:53:59 Here. Not so much. Holy cap. Fifa house! 11:54:05 Olympic Discovery Trail. Land Purchase. 11:54:08 I have that number actually, I also made a little may I want to take up too much time? 11:54:14 I just like you're gonna take us up to lunch. 11:54:22 Greg, so Odt land purchase actually got 2 appropriations. 11:54:28 One came through the Washington wildlife and Recreation program. 11:54:31 That was 1.4 million, and then there was a 700, another $750,000 allocation in the capital budget. 11:54:40 So about 2.2 million or land purchase. 11:54:47 This first one. 11:54:51 That sounds like Anderson, Mike. It's really is not good. 11:54:56 Right, right. We are talking about that for a long time. 11:55:02 Yeah, so what was I was on one? And then it was, or library capital improvement City of New York City. 11:55:09 City, port Townsend got 173 and Jefferson County got 285,000. 11:55:16 Some of these dots are close, so it's. 11:55:20 Okay, here's more different ones. Library Heritage Camera Project for a maritime visitor Center and Site interpretation I'm not really sure what that's that's Hi. 11:55:34 Marie is in Port Townsend right now. Oh, I know that's that's for the International Heritage area. 11:55:42 Maritime Washington, which is gonna housed. 11:55:46 They're gonna have an office at the Maritime Center. 11:55:51 I wanted to name that. 11:55:56 And then there's recyclery. It's getting some funding or bathroom and shopping. 11:56:05 Ment. I'm not sure the status of recycle. Yeah. 11:56:08 I thought that they were changing their business model, but moving parts there, this is a maritime visitor center. 11:56:14 There this map. As I said, I think your tip map is better, but let's see, where else do you want me to cruise around? 11:56:23 Wildlife corridor. Gotcha! I'm brilliant for almost a million dollars. 11:56:32 That's for Jefferson. Healthcare. 11:56:36 Got 4 million for reproductive and gymnological accounts, I have babies in the county. 11:56:43 And this will be easier. This is for Odt trail Extension. 11:56:50 This is the 1 point, and for Yup, hmm, Brian Abbott. Sprayer removal for Naylor's Creek. 11:57:01 Short 1 million dollars to the port for short term acquisition, and that was just community projects. 11:57:10 Yup! Oh, storage for Dnr. 11:57:16 At their I think that's the Eagle Mount Facility Center. 11:57:23 Yeah. Over here. Jefferson Land Trust for the Salmon Creek Rock. 11:57:28 So that's just more in the Salmon Creek Project area for the Land Trust down a quilt scene. 11:57:35 Farmland Preservation. 11:57:40 I think that's I forget the name. Yeah. , he said. 11:57:50 Debbah Bay, Dave, I've got so 2.2, Dave, I've got 2.3 million. 11:57:57 To complete the last expansion, and then they got another 642,000 and I'm not sure where that's being applied. 11:58:04 I can't remember the details on that one. School school district for modernization, and they didn't parse out the amounts. 11:58:12 But and Brennan both got a little funding farmland schools. 11:58:24 Hey, Bob! And then devil's like 5.2 million Yup that got funded. 11:58:31 Thanks to my dear Sarah Stein. Let's see, and this is the Brandon school, and then talk about it. 11:58:42 This is the biggest problem project in our county. 41 million over 2 Biennia for the this is still interesting for you guys. 11:58:53 Okay, I thought it would be. But and then here's West Jefferson. 11:58:57 Ho, Lindner, Lindner, Complex reach corrections, minor works. 11:59:07 Culvert on Monitor Tower Road, minor 48 foot corporate. 11:59:12 I'm looking at you guys I'm like, do you know anything about? 11:59:16 Hmm Olympic corrections. Camp 5 Buildings. 11:59:22 So this is for Dnr. To do work on their facilities. 11:59:25 It looks like this to this is all Dnr funding. 11:59:32 Mcavoy. 11:59:38 And this is the to the is, that the is, that the okay? So it must be, yeah. 11:59:54 Preparing for the effects of climate change, including supporting relocation of tribal communities. 11:59:55 25 million gods from the Feds. Yeah. And I forget I didn't get the detail on this one. 11:59:57 Anyway, good stuff happened. And so in total, it's see over base. 12:00:03 I got 2 million for Woodley Place and Port Hadlock. 12:00:07 That was one of I spent a lot of time reading budgets. 12:00:11 This weekend Port Townsend got 1.4 million for affordable housing development thinking that must be Evans Vista. 12:00:20 Yeah, the port got the short from money, and they also got 1 million for the point. 12:00:23 Hudson Breakwater already talked about Odt Quinn for wildlife posting firmly, and salmon rock libraries, Polycap got 412,000 for affordable housing and childcare that finishes the seventh even childcare cost for the tenant 12:00:41 improvements, Moly Cap also got 70,000 bucks, a hundred, 27,000 per fif for house. 12:00:49 That's just the school districts and and in Brennan, and then the Fort Warden Pda fire alert system. 12:00:57 What what I was typing, all these in what I realized when I went to the map is I didn't collect everything, so we'll need to get a complete lists, so we'll need to get a complete list at some point. 12:01:05 But in addition excited. Heidi gets to tell you that our House Bill, 1460, pass last week, revitalizing the trust line transfer program for Dnr. 12:01:17 Alright! Oh, shoot! And then 5.2 million for Devil's Lake, and trust land! 12:01:25 Transfer 2.3 million for daybob expansion in trust landtransfer. 12:01:30 But the total appropriation that trust and transfer was 19.6 million for 7 projects which is, look at the point 3 right. 12:01:37 Yeah, but it was awesome because the Senate budget came in at 10, and the House budget came in at 23. 12:01:43 And so it there was 5 million dollar reauthorization of the 5 million dollars for the encumbered Lance proviso that we got in the last session, and there was 83 million dollars appropriated for carbon sequestration funding including 70 million or West 12:02:05 side county replacement, land acquisition of that up to 2,000 acres can be structurally complex. 12:02:11 Carbon dioxide transferred out of trust status. 12:02:15 And we're eligible. That's exciting. 12:02:16 Yeah, so, okay, great. And there was, there wasn't a lot of specifics in the Olympics. 12:02:24 I did all the search terms, and there was 364,000 for public health, general support, and then a hundred 50,000 for a feasibility study for creating a maritime academy on Olympic Peninsula. 12:02:38 Those are my budget notes great notes. It seems like a lot of great work coming to Jefferson County. 12:02:43 Yeah. And I was just distracted when we were doing the grab presentation, because apparently Monty is envisible to the owl. 12:02:50 I don't know if you notice that, but it won't follow him. 12:02:52 It'll follow anyone else. Vampire, maybe. 12:02:59 Invisible. Alright. Yeah. Now I got the cloak on parking devices well, thank you for the update. 12:03:06 Thank you guys for all the work that the public works is doing. 12:03:10 And we are recessed until 130, when we will look at the work plan from Wazir Extension. 13:31:00 Hey, are you with us online? We need to leave audio on there. 13:31:08 Boom. And then, Bridget, when you talk you wanna make sure that you use the microphone. 13:31:15 Or should we just go ahead, then? Are are we go ahead? Are you? 13:31:20 How time critical is, is your afternoon, how time critical is yours? 13:31:25 I'm I'm you're our big, our main topic this afternoon. 13:31:31 So we're we're our main topic this afternoon. 13:31:33 So if we can, wait, just if we can wait for a few minutes for Kate, then we can start, but I will get. I will bring us back into order. 13:31:38 So I will call this meeting of the Jefferson County Board of Canada Commissioners back into session it's 130 Commissioner Dean is held up for just one a couple of minutes and a lunchtime meeting, and since Bridget our interim director of extension does not 13:31:52 urgeently need to leave after this presentation. We'll just. 13:31:55 We'll pass the time, perhaps, talking about our own past week. 13:32:00 You wanna lead us up and we'll you can stop sharing for the time being, Bridget, and we'll just bring it back up one year. 13:32:07 Actually presenting last week last week last week I. 13:32:19 Had a trend. Well, I was obviously here with you on Monday, and I had a Transit Authority Board meeting. 13:32:27 We all did on Tuesday. It's prep. 13:32:32 With treasurer, prayed for our Friday. Kptz. 13:32:36 So did some prep for the in the agenda's resolution this week. 13:32:44 On Wednesday morning, had a couple of conversations with planning commission members about transitions that are happening at the Department of Community Development, had lunch at the Recovery Cafe, which was awesome. 13:32:59 I went with Apple and Liz from public health, and it was great to see it in action excellent, and saw a lot of faces I knew, and people I knew. 13:33:10 And yeah, it was really inspiring firing. That's great. 13:33:15 I don't know how often I can drop in for free lunch, but I know but once a week now I don't think they do it. I don't think they don't. Why don't I? How many? 13:33:26 I think they do it 3 times a week, but I mean, I think at that point, but I think once per week you can do any day would only be appreciated. 13:33:33 Okay. Then Wednesday evening I attended the planning commission meeting, which I don't have a lot to report back on that Josh did a good job of holding the space about the transitions that are happening at Dcd. 13:33:48 And exhibiting leadership on the on what moving forward with the job, descriptions and posting those positions and getting building the team backup but he also talked a lot about how the people who are left there are really new and need some grace in this time of coming on 13:34:10 boarding, but I think it it was good. 13:34:14 It was. The center was good. 13:34:19 Man, why can't you be more like Heidi? 13:34:22 She came to the meeting. It's very appreciated with any. 13:34:28 No one else wants to go I think if one of us went oh, and this time of so much transition there! 13:34:35 And I. You know I like I like that stuff. So it's kinda and then on Thursday, my little trust land transfer work group celebrated the passage of House Bill 1460 and talked about how we didn't know how much was gonna be in the budget for trust and transfer and 13:34:59 then on Saturday it came out that there was almost 20 million, which is awesome, and of that 7 will be coming to Jefferson County projects, which is great, and then attended the Board of Health Meeting, and on Friday I did a lot of homework. 13:35:25 On various things, and more, and the agenda resolution, perhaps conversations. 13:35:33 And then Stacy and I were on Kpdz, together with Jim Burke, and I think we did a good show on. 13:35:39 Your property, taxes being due yeah. And I use my joke, which I'm not. 13:35:47 I can never remember jokes, and so it's really good to have that little tool in my pocket. 13:35:52 Thanks. Commissioner Brothers, and for that, and then we had our sewer update from the Public Works staff, which was great to see all the work that they've been doing on the sewer, and that was that was it for meetings on last week great I'm sorry can 13:36:15 we started just with some briefing to end of legislative session. 13:36:22 Kurfuffle that I'll report on. I feel great. 13:36:31 Oh, I can't wait! Oh, I can't wait oh, I can't wait. Oh, I can't wait. Oh, I can't wait! 13:36:38 No, I'll be texting you about. Yes. Oh, okay, yeah. 13:36:41 Go to there, all right. Now. We'll return to our regularly scheduled program and turn it over to our interim extension for you're 2 years from service, I think. 13:36:48 No, a year and a half yeah, yeah, it'd be a couple of weeks with more. 13:36:53 Or 2 years ago, I think over 2 years ago. 13:36:56 It told us he was gonna retire Wc. We had plenty of lead time, and here we are. 13:37:03 2 years after they were notified. Finally, having interviews and we're all excited about the candidates. 13:37:09 I just wanted to thank you for stepping up. I know that it kept getting renewed, and you didn't wanna do it. But you, the welfare of the team in the county took priority, and I want to thank you for that. 13:37:27 Alright. Can you hear me? Does this sound okay for this mic? 13:37:33 I'll go ahead and share screen I have shared with folks already presenting isn't my strong suit. 13:37:43 If I wake a little bit I'm okay, and then let me see if I can get this bar here that you are sharing screen bar. 13:37:54 Okay, it's okay. We just see the transcription at the bottom. 13:37:59 Nothing you can do about that. So Marcus made me come and present, and I'm happy to be here to talk about what we're doing out of the extension office this year. 13:38:11 I'm gonna go program by program. But I feel like this is the discussion. 13:38:15 So please feel free to ask me questions as we go I have asked each of the program coordinators to give me a just a snapshot of what they are planning to date. 13:38:27 And then an overview of what you know. Often our programming. 13:38:30 We have year round program in as well. So I want to start with the 4 H. 13:38:35 Youth Development Program and I think you've all heard the announcement that are for H. Coordinator. 13:38:44 Sarah Peterson has moved to the East coast she is staying on remotely, so I'm thrilled because she's really phenomenal. 13:38:51 She's gonna stay on until we can bring on a new candidate. 13:38:55 I've submitted the paperwork to Wsu. 13:38:57 I'm told that's about a month to get that position. 13:39:07 I hope, but so it will take a a month, and then we can start. 13:39:12 We could advertise and put it out to the public. 13:39:16 So that process is already in place, and Sarah has agreed to stay on through the summer. 13:39:22 Of course, if something comes up, you know, there's always that caveat, but she's really been phenomenal, and so I think you can see that from the programming she came in after almost 2 years of nobody in that position you know, we had a couple short-term candidates. 13:39:36 Came in, left for various reasons, but she came in really ready to go forward and get youth programsing active. 13:39:47 So for this year, it says, completed for 2223. 13:39:53 She has been spearheading the after school burden program. 13:39:58 That's the program that the County Commissioners of the county is supporting. 13:40:02 It's a 3 day, a week program where 4 H programming is provided to the kids with 3 paid staff that are delivering for H. 13:40:12 Well, I already said that programming. And so it's really been a phenomenal program. 13:40:17 My understanding from Sarah is about a third of the students from the Burden School attend that. 13:40:23 That's, I think, 75 kids at the school about 25 attendees it is astonishing the parents are really appreciative for that after school care, and it's just a great way. 13:40:37 I think it's a great model for how? 13:40:38 For H. Should be going. Probably stay wide honestly in the future, which is taking this fantastic curricula for kids it's just doesn't exist the way it used to when for H. 13:40:56 Started. Parents. You don't have 2 parents at home that can be at home organizing and planning this, and so I I really appreciate it. 13:41:06 I see the value in it, and the superintendent and Vernon said she would love to come and talk to the bocc and present and talk about that program and other issues that they have in conversation about the Virgin school district. 13:41:23 So continuing on another program that for H is partnering with is the Salish rescue. 13:41:31 And this is again another kind of after-school program model. 13:41:37 What for h and Ws Tu provide one of the things that they provide is a phenomenal insurance coverage right? 13:41:46 So organizations, and Sir and I talked that length about this. 13:41:51 We have a lot of partnerships that come to us that have programming, that they want to provide to the kids. 13:41:55 But really, it's just basically impossible, because it can't shoulder what that financial burden of insurance is. 13:42:03 And so we come in they become 4 aged volunteers. 13:42:08 We provide that educational support, we supply provide Sarah's support, but then we also get that insurance. 13:42:14 And so both the sales rescue and the Community Bo project. 13:42:18 Are models that that are similar to the after school burden program. 13:42:23 In that, way that it partners with us. So we have kids. 13:42:27 Unfortunately, I didn't set this up for dual screen share, so I can't see my notes for the number of kids. 13:42:34 But I believe the community boat project there's like 8 kids that were doing some nautical mathematical learning. 13:42:41 They were using our classroom for that school education. 13:42:48 We'll move on. So that happens obviously, during the school year. 13:42:52 Those are all school programs in June and July. There are several 4 H. Outreach classes. 13:42:59 These are really community, sponsored or volunteer, sponsored events that are like camp but they're offered once a week over the course of a couple of weeks they'll be open to any kid that wants to attend. 13:43:14 They have to enroll as a 4 H. Member in order to get that insurance again. 13:43:19 But she has volunteers that are interested in doing fiber. 13:43:23 Arts, camps, gardening, as well as our camp, so that should be fun, and then again using our classroom, which has been a, I think, a huge asset for us oh, didn't the County August, of course, is the Jefferson County Fair, and as always for H is a huge component of that and 13:43:45 that's where forage members will do their youth caps don't events, and for those of you I think you've all admitted before, but that's often posters. 13:43:54 They do their public presentations, they really take everything they've been learning in the for each program. 13:43:59 And summarize it all at at the fair. 13:44:03 Any questions, I'm talking too fast, I guess. 13:44:12 One question about the classes. You talked about possibility of fibroids. 13:44:17 Gardening? Are the selection of classes informed by the teachers available, or by the interest of the kids. 13:44:24 They're formed by the teachers available or by the interest. 13:44:24 Unfortunately, ideally, it would be coming from the kids. Well, they'll only happen if there are kids who are interested kind of that around. But those are the expertise that the volunteers have and are willing to offer those opportunities to you are you feeling like there are kids who have interests that aren't 13:44:43 being met, or I think there's always kids that I'm sorry. There's always kids that have interest in aren't being met, and that's somewhere our county and improve on. 13:44:53 I have 2 kids that have gone through the school district summer care, and summer activities are always a challenge in part because they fill up with folks that are retired and have their maybe experiences. 13:45:04 You know, Gran kids that fill up the marines there and actually having something local well, no, not having grandkids. 13:45:11 But I'm saying, like, you try to get into a camp, and you're unable to. And so I think these sort of you know, home grown events that really haven't appeal to kids that are here that are happening consecutive weeks or serving our population. 13:45:31 Not too far. Alright! And then ongoing for 4 8, they have their monthly council meetings, and then there are approximately 9 clubs right now. 13:45:46 This doesn't list all the clients, bundle them underneath different categories. 13:45:50 But there's horse, cat, livestock, robotics, middle working and jewelry making as well as gardening, cooking clubs that are currently active right now. 13:46:00 The jewelry Club. I don't know if you all saw the advertisement for that that's happening down at the fairgrounds. 13:46:06 It was really fantastic doing some metal work separate from the rock. 13:46:12 And, Jim, it's sponsored by, but it is separate. 13:46:14 Yeah, and so it's our new Youth club has really hired that the Rock Club Backup, the Rat Club sponsors the well metal work and jewelry, or vice versa. 13:46:36 There were I should. I don't know. The all the work is. I should ask Sarah to make sure that I'm clear. 13:46:37 There are 4 H matches volunteers who are part of the Rock Club, right sort of the way these things work. 13:46:45 We found out about the there were some grants that were being offered by environmental health, not limited. Atkins. 13:46:57 I always go to Linda as not, Linda. 13:47:00 No, she's the one who does the composting walkin or Lori Tucker. So Lord Tucker and I were talking, and they had some youth tobacco cessation grants, and so Sarah and I worked together on what programs might be and in the 4 H. That might be able to access 13:47:16 that so they got were a recipient of that grant, and use that Grant to make purchases and be able to offer this jewelry, making metal, working. 13:47:25 That's great. So, yeah, that was fantastic was a really great connection with Laura. 13:47:30 Sorry, Laura, so. 13:47:36 Regional small farms. So it's a regional program. 13:47:39 Japanese, Callum and Kitsap County. So these are the programs that are happening across the 3 counties. 13:47:48 As you can see, there's. 13:47:52 Kelly just facilitated this agricultural entrepreneurship, class that was held in our office classroom, and she brought in educators from Wsu to come in, and it was very successful. 13:48:07 We 3 month class right? It was once a week, she continues to offer the whole farm, planning. 13:48:15 They recently brought on a some staff in Clown County, who's a livestock expert, and so our ability to provide livestock education out here, you know, has just been increase the 100 times yeah. So I think that's really been the impetus for the beef and the mobile meet 13:48:40 class. Laura. What is Laurel's name? 13:48:45 I can't remember her last name, but she's the master gardener, coordinator in Clown County. 13:48:49 She's been brought on as a integrated pest man. 13:48:53 Ipm specialist. So these sleep butyl classes in the mummy-bury classes are being coordinated through Laurl, and then being offered, and all the county, so farmers are allowed to come for to any county event, and they're advertised to all the farmers I 13:49:12 don't know how. That sort of deciding which it's really on a what farms are available to host these event basis, I believe, and so a percentage of them are in. 13:49:23 And Jefferson, and and it's. 13:49:27 Yes, thank you. Decades right? Well loved. Yes. Yeah. And yeah. So like, I said, I don't like public speaking. 13:49:37 So my brain names just disappear, and then, as soon as I walk out of this room, I'll be like I said. 13:49:47 I don't like public speaking, so my brain got great names. Just disappear. No. And then, as soon as I walk out of this room, I'll be like, yeah, I knew all of them, but doing great anyhow, so help me out when I go for help so heidi pointed out that AI for beef 13:49:54 production so Heidi pointed out that AI for beef production so Heidi pointed out that AI for beef production. So Heidi pointed out that AI for beef production is like Click paid for me. 13:50:02 Now, can you talk about for so I'd like to follow up Kelly and Clia, and they're maybe Jess Appington, and we'd all like to come present to the Oc. And so what I had just asked Kelly is to give me a slide so you guys can sort 13:50:13 of see the big snapshot, and then they can come in and really provide the details it's probably artificial insemination information, I'm sorry to say. 13:50:26 No, I'm not sure if you guys could sort of see the big snapshot, and then they can come in and really provide the details. It's probably artificial insem alright. Alright. 13:50:34 So I'm still excited, even if it's I'm in semination with 6. Alright! Alright! 13:50:42 So I'm still excited, even if it's the same. I'm not sure if it's going to be alright. 13:50:45 Alright, so regional! Small farms continuing, I think it's pretty exciting, we're having this propagating. 13:50:55 Sweet Potato Research trial happening across looking for a new egg product that the farmers could grow here. Yes, they'll have to tell you the results of the research. I think it's still ongoing, so I haven't heard any of the data yet. 13:51:20 So I'm interested. What they've tweak in the sweet potato to make it right. 13:51:26 But stand by for their presentation. Again. We're we help the small farms, coordinators involved with the farm tour and helping to coordinate master garden or volunteers, come in a couple different entities at it. 13:51:44 Extension help with that. Kelly also is the coordinator for Jefferson Land works she's working with the port towns and school district for the Pharmac School Grant at Salish Co so that's the work that's going on with the greenhouse and then of course she 13:52:01 provides technical service one-on-one with farmers here we'll travel out of county when needed. 13:52:07 But Kelly often focuses her work here in the county. 13:52:10 Primarily questions on, if I can answer them. That's exciting. 13:52:18 Yeah, they're doing a lot of great work. This I can answer almost any questions I have. 13:52:24 I think so, Master Gardener programs. It is our fiftieth year anniversary. 13:52:28 I love our byline, cultivating plants, people, and community, since 1973. 13:52:33 So this year after Covid, we keep talking about the after post-covid world, we decided our our efforts at this point are to get to where the people are rather than trying to draw people out to extension offices right. 13:52:50 So we in the past have had clinics at our office. 13:52:53 We're constantly trying to bring them to us, and just decided we wanna be where the people are. 13:52:58 That's our best way of delivering education, and I guess I assume Heidi and Greg and I know Kate is familiar with the program. 13:53:10 Add its core. Actually, I have that on the next slide, but at its core, essentially the master gardener program is reducing pesticides in the environment. 13:53:19 Right. We are giving people the best management practices in their residential home that they can. 13:53:25 And it's not just gardening. I get questions about bed bugs. 13:53:28 I've had somebody ask me. Oh, gosh! It was well, they were afraid their son had gotten bitten by a tick. 13:53:37 And how did we find out? If they have lime disease? 13:53:40 And then we do the research. And we dig in and say, Okay, here's who you contact here, so you can send your sample to, etc. 13:53:46 So it's not just home and garden, and how to take care of your pretty appliances. 13:53:49 It's really way, more comprehensive than that. 13:53:53 So, we're partnering with the libraries this year both Port Townsend Library and the Jefferson County Library. 13:54:00 We were there once a month, and we had master gardeners available to answer questions. 13:54:06 It's been successful. It's been more successful at the County Library, which is surprising to me. 13:54:11 I guess I had anticipated we'd had an audience here. 13:54:16 We used to be in Port Townsend, and a lot of folks, I think, are recognition is higher in the city of Port Townsend. 13:54:23 But yeah, we have just a constant flow of folks that come to our Saturday clinics. 13:54:31 And now we're hoping to partner with the library to get down to quilting, and Brennan, because they will do periodic visits down there and bring a library programming down. 13:54:40 So this is one of the partnerships I'm trying to foster and getting to get us out in the public. 13:54:46 We did. Host. A yard and garden lecture series this year. 13:54:49 That's both a fundraiser and an educational outreach. 13:54:52 Hi I have a master gardener, passionate about fruit tree pruning, and you know, as part of fruit tree pruning, it's really teaching folks, you know you're legally mandated to manage your trees for coddleling moth and here's my brother. 13:55:10 Thank you. And any way to go with the assist there, Mark. 13:55:17 Yeah, so embedded in all of these workshops really is trying to get that deeper and complete understanding of what folks are required to do we are now offering our growing groceries class that last classes tonight. 13:55:37 I'll be there, and that class is really boot security oriented local food. 13:55:43 How to get people growing their own food. And it's really a mini master gardener class rather than talking vegetable. 13:55:51 Buy vegetable. We're teaching them how do you take care of your soils? 13:55:54 And then once you've taken care of, you know, actually, most of it is your soil. 13:55:58 Honestly, but then, after that, you know, how do you manage your plants in a way that you are using the least amount of pesticide? 13:56:06 You know. How can we do mechanical control and biological controls? 13:56:12 And what are your resources to help you manage that let's see, we're also starting up a lunch and learn at the County Library before cl clinics. 13:56:21 So we have some fun presentations on how to interpret a soil test, how to landscape a septic during field or around a septic training field, which is a question that I field a lot, yeah, a lot. 13:56:36 It's slow down a little bit. But yes, I get those questions Linda would refer them to me. 13:56:41 Oh, nice. Frequently. Yeah, I would say is a June pollinator month. 13:56:47 We'll have some pollinator education out, probably at the farmer's market as well. 13:56:52 July will be doing container gardening, so trying to target folks. 13:56:54 That may be. Don't have the space to do traditional gardening. 13:57:00 There's tons of plants that you can grow on your desktop again, a local food and food security focus will be at the fair. 13:57:07 We're always at the fair, but haven't decided yet what what we're going to educate on. 13:57:13 Last year we did our big push on noxious weeds and had a really fun interactive booth where folks come in. 13:57:19 And identify. If it was a friend or foe. So I'd like to stick with that model because it was engaging even if there weren't volunteers in the booth and also educational. 13:57:30 We'll see what we what would, and then we'll offer a growing groceries class in in the fall. 13:57:36 Richard, how many master gardener, participants do you have? 13:57:40 I have 61. So when I took the job prior to Covid, I usually hovered around 75 so we took a pretty big dip. 13:57:51 We couldn't do training, but I just had a new class finish up in the fall, and they're really phenomenal engaged group of people. 13:57:59 So we're rebuilding. It's a good grace. 13:58:04 So I think this actually graphic sums it up with the program is, I mean, our focus is on water food security and the environment. 13:58:13 And all those are our program priorities in the way that we do it. 13:58:19 So, just to kind of look at what we have ongoing. 13:58:24 We are. We have a lecture series that happens at the classroom every month. 13:58:28 Those are hybrid. We use our owl for those we have pop-up clinics. 13:58:34 So if there's an organization that wants us to come we've done that for the habitat, for humanity. 13:58:38 They had a free plant, giveaway, we should up. We had a table there to help people understand where their plants would succeed and give them advice on how best to grow the plants that they did receive from that plant, giveaway. 13:58:52 We have volunteers in the Rain Gardens, the demo garden on street food, bank and school gardens really got huge right pandemic. 13:59:01 We had a special permission, essentially from Jay inslee to being gardens when everything else was shut down. 13:59:10 It was a considered essential and most of my volunteers moved into those gardens, and so our relationship with the food bank growers is phenomenal. 13:59:23 And we have, yeah, I'd say, probably 75% of my volunteers are out there growing food teaching people how to grow. 13:59:27 Food. That's great. Yeah. Of course, I get plenty of emails. 13:59:31 Online, phone calls, etcetera, that I send off to my volunteers to answer answer, although I do sometimes as well. 13:59:39 We're partner with Coca-cola Han for native plant gardening, axious Weed. 13:59:45 We've been working with the Marine Science Center and repair events, and the first ones were just tool sharpening. 13:59:50 I was like, let's just see where this goes. And the Coordinator there just reached out, and she's like, well, what about plants? 13:59:58 And that's kind of a repair, isn't it? 14:00:00 I'm like, yeah, it is kind of a repair. 14:00:01 Maybe we'll do plan id. So people know what they have, and then they can know how how to grow them best. 14:00:08 So it's been very fun. I it was a creative couple of meetings that we had to come up with, where we could be engaged. 14:00:13 We may be at the cake picnic, helping with edible flowers, you know, just trying to connect with our community. 14:00:20 So alright noxious weed. So Sophie came and presented to you all. 14:00:27 I believe, not too long ago, so I won't go into much detail here. 14:00:31 Then to say, she's fantastic, and I feel really, really pleased that we went with with Sophie for the Coordinator. 14:00:42 She has the heart for it. She has the savvy on how to speak to the public, and just very pleased. 14:00:49 That's fine. I I didn't connect with someone. 14:00:53 District 4. Potential for the We Board this week. Yeah, yeah, excellent. 14:00:58 Yes, push hopefully to get that board function fully functioning. So it's functioning. 14:01:05 Now they have a forum. Yeah, oops wrong direction. 14:01:11 Water programs, too. I think. Monica came in right not too long. 14:01:15 So same thing. I if I was to say anything, I think. 14:01:22 We just have such a strong office right now. Whoever comes in as the director should be stepping into something that's functioning well and I think that's amazing, considering how much that impacted us right and getting sort of knocked down as far as that community outreach and it's 14:01:42 been a bit of a slog getting there. But yeah, Monica, and the work that they're doing at the Mrc. 14:01:51 And the dollars are bringing. It's fantastic, so I won't go into this unless you'd like me to. 14:01:56 If you have any questions, I mean, I would just say, Yeah, the Mrc is one of my favorite assignments as a commissioner, and I love the group that's involved in the Mrc. 14:02:07 Right now, and Monica is stellar. 14:02:10 She is just such a strong staff person for that cohort that yeah, I really appreciate that group. 14:02:18 Good. Yeah, yeah. She amazes me. And the stuff that they do all their projects I mean, they're listed there. 14:02:25 But it's just. It's a fairly relatively small group of volunteers, and they are just in their coming up a new projects and high level. 14:02:35 Yeah, right? I come. This is my background, and the science that they're doing, the folks that they have on that board. 14:02:43 There, research capabilities and understanding is very yeah. That's amazing. 14:02:50 So then last I decided, summarizes a few other activities that we have organizations that are associated with the extension office. 14:03:00 We see Grant, we have one of their fact or staff that use our office that uses our office. 14:03:09 She's retired, but then she decided to semi retire. 14:03:15 But that has been an important relationship. There's it's a very loose relationship. 14:03:20 But a good example was during Covid. She works with the the tribes on well, she works with many different organizations, but teaching safety, marine safety, and fishing boat engine repair all kinds of things, and so she knew, like for example, the tribes, had a ton of 14:03:43 salmon that they couldn't get rid of. 14:03:47 Essentially, I can't remember the details as to why, but she's there. 14:03:50 She's talking with our Snap Ed Coordinator, and Kelly, and say, Hey, let's get this to the food banks. 14:03:55 And so they had, you know, help broker a sale, essentially of salmon to the food banks. 14:04:01 So those so that resource and protein source could be available to folks. 14:04:06 So then, yeah, snap Ed sits at our office. 14:04:10 It's managed by clear Rome over in Clown County. Some of that was a decision that was made, as Cliff was leading, and they extension of gotten the grant. 14:04:17 This is my understanding, or the dollars for Snap. 14:04:21 Ed. Clea took on that management. But we do have coordinator that just left, but I believe they are hiring for that new position. 14:04:33 And what the snap add. Sorry snap, Ed, that's essentially food stamps is where people used to call that snap program. 14:04:44 And then there's an arm of it. That's the education. 14:04:46 So that's it pretty frequently so it's an extension office, since education is really our mission. 14:04:54 And then supplementary nutritional aid program assistance assistance. 14:05:02 And then there's the food bank growers, Coordinator here in Jefferson County. 14:05:06 They are also funded through. Clea's got the dollars. The dollars over there in Clown County, but the Coordinator is servicing our counties. 14:05:17 Who bank gardens? Is that going to stay for Snap Ed and Food bank growers under the new director back over to our county. 14:05:29 It would make sense to me that it would. I don't wanna speak to what they decide to do, but I could see some real benefit, and having the managed over through our county, there's also a remote workers certificate that Ws. 14:05:45 Use, offering statewide in response to welcome to Covid into the more interest from working at home. 14:05:53 And so that education and I'm trying to say if we are certification, you know we pump that out through our office, out through our media. 14:06:06 We're not managing it in our office, but they are just a conduit, so that Wsu program. 14:06:17 What is that's what we're going to do. So that's what we're going to do. 14:06:21 Is, we're going to talk about that. So that's what we're going to do. 14:06:23 So that's what we're going to do. So that's what we're going to do. 14:06:26 So that's what we're going to do. So that's what we're going to do with the on your CD, essentially right, wear pants, even if you're by yourself. 14:06:33 And it's like it's you gotta pretend like you're at the office it's like it's got to pretend like you're at the office. 14:06:47 And then finally broadband initiatives. So Wsu received some dollars to help promote broadband equity across the State. 14:06:59 Our counties are already doing a phenomenal job with that. 14:07:02 So the most recent word I've heard is that we will have about $10,000. 14:07:07 Come into our office for us to use to help facilitate anything that may need in order to do the broadband, outreach. 14:07:16 Or the library. Maybe the Digital Equity Navigator isn't a lot of this about digital equity it is. And maybe the library. They are really leaving that up to the for somehow I don't know how this worked out. 14:07:29 But the dollars are are at the discretion of the directors to use, and what ever manner they think fits this initiative best, and they will they should be coming in the next couple of months see, Michael Gaffney at every wasack broadband meeting now he's spending a lot of 14:07:46 time, anyhow, that was just the most recent word I heard on where that initiative is going. 14:07:53 So sorry, Bridget I guess I've been trying to track this a little bit. Is it? 14:08:01 I thought it was a considerably more money like 50. There was a lot of money, and I'll be honest. 14:08:08 I have reached out, and have asked like, How do we get engaged you know, here's the contact for folks out of Ped. 14:08:15 What can I do? And I the timeline? It was so short. 14:08:20 I'm not sure how the dollars ultimately we're all distributed, but I do know that at the end they essentially said, There's a $10,000 per county. 14:08:30 Yeah, I don't know where those other dollars went and how they were distributed. 14:08:39 It was a big presentation, but no DC. Got like 65. 14:08:45 Yeah, to do the plans. 2 different plans. Right? 14:08:52 There's digital equity. And I can't remember the name of the other one. 14:08:55 2 different plans, so I thought we were eligible for a number. I've reached out. 14:09:06 But I will tell you this is the downside, and I said, I'm excited to have a director here. 14:09:07 I basically had with the programmatic responsibility still fully on my plate in 8 h to do director I could hold the ship, and I could maintain our office for these type of programs when they came I reached out what can I do to connect the ship. And I could maintain our office for these type. Of programs. When they came I reached out what can 14:09:24 I do to connect? But I really didn't have the bandwidth. 14:09:28 Yeah. No pun intended but to get one. No, I appreciate it. That's good. That's good. 14:09:36 That's a good idea to connect. But I really didn't have the bandwidth. Yeah, no pun intended but to get one. No? Well, I appreciate it. 14:09:40 Yeah, jay bat would be conversation, you know. Extension hasn't really been there and Ws. You did hire somebody for the Peninsula, who, I think, is based in Grace Harbor yes, I could pull out their name because I had sent an email to him as well, saying hey? 14:09:57 I saw you in this meeting and I know you're wanting to know. 14:10:00 Here's p u d. So I should. They did not. CC. 14:10:05 Or include me in any communications beyond that, if they have been reaching out to Pd. 14:10:10 Without community. I don't know. I don't. 14:10:12 If they've done that or not. But hmm, okay, too big. 14:10:22 So they're good questions, Kate. I don't want to answer. 14:10:25 Okay. I wish I did. We can try and help find the answer. Also. 14:10:38 That's it. No, that was all right. 14:10:44 Great questions for Bridget so are you staying on? 14:10:49 Is the master gardener, coordinator? Yes, yeah. 14:11:01 Presentations. Oh, this week, right? Oh, yeah. One of the is there. 14:11:09 Are they public? Wednesday, Thursday, Friday? Do you want me to? 14:11:19 Website, you will see it on our banner. So let me share here, for you. 14:11:29 A moment! 14:11:31 So! 14:11:35 Here are the details. I'll scroll up so folks can see I can make that a little bigger. 14:11:41 Move that over. 14:11:44 So with 3 candidates were selected. Rebecca miner check. 14:11:51 I'm saying that correctly. I apologize, Rebecca is gonna be presenting oops at 2 30 on Wednesday, April 20, sixth. 14:12:01 The public is welcome. There'll be a 40 min presentation, followed by 20 min for, and then an additional 20 min for meet and greet. 14:12:09 You're making make the 40 min 40 min presentation. 14:12:12 Wow! And all virtual, or they are hybrid. So they're at our classroom, and we'll have our owl set. 14:12:27 Captain? Are you gonna record the? They'll be recorded, and we have housing fun board. 14:12:33 Kate and I will be occupied. Of the 26 I know. 14:12:40 Yeah. 14:12:42 And then Rachel Cardona. On the April 20 eighth, admin we have the fourth. 14:12:49 I'm gonna miss the whole fourth grader session, because our time on the interview panel is longer than these timeframes. 14:12:58 So for an hour. Watch day, half a day. I'll be yeah and been there. 14:13:06 People are inited to complete a survey following. 14:13:09 Yes, thank you for bringing that up, mark so, and folks will have until May fourth. 14:13:16 So the candidates we'll meet with the public. They'll meet with the hiring committee, the office staff, Mike Gavin with Wsu, and then they need to meet with Big Dean Vicky Mccracken and Vicky was not able to meet all the candidates that 14:13:33 week, so I think her last meeting is May fourth, and we'll afterwards bring all the survey results together, and the hiring team is my understanding. 14:13:47 At this point we'll come together at that point and and put forth a candidate. 14:13:52 Start date of one June, or I can't speak to when this date is. 14:13:59 I know it's the well I know. Well, my son graduates, April fourteenth is his graduation. 14:14:13 So, all I know is I'm just gotta make it. 14:14:31 And Ahmed is in Seattle. Yeah. 14:14:36 So close to local. Yeah. Yup, that's exciting. 14:14:39 Thanks for holding the ships steady, Bridget, I really really do appreciate you sticking with it. 14:14:43 It's you're welcome. Yeah, this is sacrifice for the greater good I know. 14:14:49 Yeah, it was good. I appreciated it. I loved learning what all we do in more depth. 14:14:58 I've enjoyed working with the Commissioners and with Mark we've been fantastic. 14:15:03 Yeah, have valued this experience. Really. So thank you guys. So what's the plan with the? 14:15:12 Are we leaving that to the next director of the 4 H. 14:15:17 I'm moving forward. So if it comes, if I'm still seated, I'll get the advertisements out, and we'll go I'm happy to serve on that committee again. 14:15:29 So unless somebody else wants to. No, not gonna for it. As long as you can name. 14:15:37 What are the 4 Hs hard hands and health so no, we'll go forward with that. 14:15:47 Any other questions. I may or may not be able to answer. 14:16:00 I may or may not be able to answer. Oh, sweet, this week. Sorry. Yeah. 14:16:01 This week. You're right. Great, all right. Well, we'll let you get back to the rest of your day. 14:16:07 Thank you. I'm going to leave the webinar. 14:16:11 I'm not gonna end it. If I do that right. 14:16:11 Good thanks, so much. We can take this transition time just to do a little table setting for the rest of the days. 14:16:20 So our last, other than board and committee vacancies are last scheduled. 14:16:25 Item we've just touched on briefing a little with Heidi, and we haven't done calendaring other things. 14:16:30 People wanna address today, whatever that's what I'm saying. 14:16:41 That's awful it's awful. Yeah. And then I have 3 other items love to talk about the Friday fourth grader. 14:16:47 Oh, yeah. Wednesday. Administrative assistance day. 14:16:51 And if we want to consider a thank you. Letter to wash that definitely, yeah. 14:17:02 Let's just take those first cause. I think they're all critical. 14:17:06 I think we should definitely send a letter. Of Thank you. Watch that, and I mean we sent a letter to in the office as well. 14:17:15 So I think lots of Bccs, and basically thank you for being responsive. 14:17:22 Transit with Nicole, so I'm happy to sure I'll not say no to that. 14:17:33 Okay. 14:17:34 Alright, great! So bring for next week. Hmm! Next week. 14:17:41 Okay. Admin assistance day on Wednesday, yeah, it sounds like a 10 doesn't work for Greg, and it only works. It works. It's the only time that works for heid after work. 14:17:56 Sunday. Check them out for some office, and old beverage or something. 14:18:02 I fair amount of flexibility can do. 14:18:07 Thursday or Friday. But, Carolyn, you had a schedule. Julian Angela will all meet but Thursday and Monday. 14:18:20 Covering the front desk of DC. Then, Alright! 14:18:26 Oh, yeah. I didn't ask. We have the Jcf. 14:18:35 Reception. Wednesday after work right Friday. Afterward. 14:18:39 Yeah. It works for me, even, you know. Even leave a few minutes early. 14:18:46 Yeah, do that. I just have to be in good shape for the camp. 14:18:48 B. Site work party the next morning. Yeah. Both side work party. 14:18:54 I haven't heard about that that out. Yeah, yeah. 14:19:00 Of course I mean. 14:19:05 I do have a there's other I have 2 Thursday evening meeting, Tuesday. 14:19:12 Yeah, well, tomorrow, I could do, yeah. 14:19:19 I think Heidi is tied up at Long. We can do another day for our lunch. 14:19:22 We could see. We could do lunch tomorrow. I don't. 14:19:26 You have the I interview not tomorrow. Oh, Whoa, gotcha! 14:19:32 Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, we could. I could do tomorrow once tomorrow. 14:19:36 Yeah, okay, I have between 12 and one. Okay? Well, you don't have to do any planning or picking up. 14:19:46 I'll do all that alright. Let's do that. 14:19:48 So tomorrow. Then I have. Well, I'm busy from 12 to one. 14:19:54 Okay. But I can. You know what I can do this instead, I'll just put this. 14:19:59 I'll just do half of that meeting. 14:20:05 Hmm! I can't do one or 2 well, let's do 12 to one. 14:20:12 Alright! It'll be fine first. Okay? But Sarah is gonna be here because there will be your or what? 14:20:19 What about like a later in the afternoon? Thank you. 14:20:23 Okay, yeah, what that work for them, too. I have meetings. 14:20:32 I have to go to my one to 2. After that I have some availability that doesn't work for long. 14:20:41 I won't be here until. 14:21:03 4. 14:21:12 Huh! Once for me! 14:21:16 Page 4 to 2. 14:21:24 Hmm hmm sorry. 14:21:31 It didn't work for Christin right works for all of us. 14:21:35 So work for a personal meeting. If something 6 number third one is fine. 14:21:39 Okay, how about 4, 4 to 6? Yeah. Mark, does that work for you? 14:21:48 Where are we doing this I don't know yet. Tomorrow, after work. 14:21:51 Yeah, like, happy hour, we can the side location and everything. 14:22:01 Oh, we will really, never apologize never apologize for being on a massage tale. 14:22:08 4, 30 to 6, 2 h massage service there 90 min. 14:22:15 Hmm, 3, 30. Okay, join us. Join us for the first half hour. 14:22:22 Well, let let me confirm. I have it on my schedule. It for. 14:22:25 But let me look at the email. I just got windows again. 14:22:32 Cold, hot, cold, hot. 14:22:35 Hmm! 14:22:38 We're shooting for 4. 14:22:43 We're all waiting. 14:22:51 That's you. Go ahead. Wait, perhaps. Oh, it's nice! 14:23:04 Hmm, yeah. 14:23:09 Okay, it's supposed to be nice. 14:23:12 That sounds fun to me. I haven't been there and since Caroline Gibson's birthday party 40'clock, it's supposed to be mostly sunny and in the fifties, okay, so is that sound fun to you, Carla. 14:23:28 We're going to the poor house and getting typhoon and sitting outside. 14:23:31 And okay, tomorrow. It? Is alright. Thanks, thank you. And shall we talk about the Friday, the 20 eighth? 14:23:47 Ky. Is totally out, and, Greg, just curious if you're going to be there for a meaningful amount of time that, make it worth noticing a as a public meeting, or if I mean, I would love to be. 14:24:03 I can blow off my 110'clock, but I have the radio at 1230. 14:24:08 So that's that's when I have to. I can be here from 10 and 1222 and half hours. 14:24:17 That's meaningful. It was. I see it from 10 to 1, 30. 14:24:23 Is that the updated schedule? This is from Brian Gleason. 14:24:26 I have this schedule right here. Oh, I see I didn't have that done all right. 14:24:36 Well, hmm, so I can watch one and a half of these sessions. 14:24:41 Each of these cause there's 4 classes. Is that right? 14:24:44 Yeah. So you could do that. 1140 to 1211. 14:24:48 40 to 1210, main it's possible we get them altogether for some legislative action. 14:24:53 No, because the 3 groups rotating through 3 offices, you know, the Fourhouse Block tower is pretty element. 14:25:04 Oh, yeah, I think you're gonna be doing that 4 times 3 times. 14:25:12 But I wonder if somebody else is taking over if they just needed you for one, Carolyn. I heard that only once. 14:25:20 Oh, don't check, is it? Says that there's 3 3 groups of kids going through that. 14:25:29 For the. 14:25:34 Okay. On Saturday evening. 14:25:37 This is a lot of harder than I thought it was. 14:25:42 Yeah. 14:25:47 So do you wanna be here for the first one? Sure. Okay, yeah. 14:25:54 Okay, the let's see if I have it here. 14:26:03 So that's kind of. 14:26:06 I think we. 14:26:10 With me must be a different pad of paper. So I I think we decided not to do a legislative action, and instead do like a priority setting. 14:26:23 And so I met with one of the teachers, and she talked through kind of what was most popular at the City Hall visit, and one upsets and parents. 14:26:35 And so we landed on. She thought kids were interested in taxes like what Texas are, how they work. 14:26:43 And then we thought about doing a priority setting session, giving, bringing the kids into groups and giving them monopoly money and deciding how they want to divvy up how the money is spent. 14:26:53 So make some graphics of like, you know roads. And you departments basically, and then have them kind of report out on why they chose what they chose. 14:27:08 That's a good activity. Yeah, and come down and talk about text you know the assessment or Stacy. 14:27:17 Yeah, I, worry, just because it'll be like, literally, like, 5 min. 14:27:23 So I think like we do want to talk about this. 14:27:29 The legislative role to. I was surprised. So, Teacher Christine Kylie said that the kids are really like wanted more information. 14:27:42 And like, I would have thought, you know, kind of talking at them would be the least interesting thing. 14:27:48 But she said they were eager for more information. So if you trust me, Greg, to handle coming up with a little Mini curriculum for those sessions, I'll just run with that, and that'd be happening. 14:28:01 You know. Thursday at midnight okay, but I don't I'll just be there for the first special meeting, but I'll hand it over to you. 14:28:14 Okay, perfect. 14:28:17 Okay. Great. And if they're well you'll you'll certainly be there to be able to contribute any points that you want to make, and that, you know it would be fun and interesting. 14:28:27 Okay, yeah, it's funny how having older kids. Now, I just, I think, kind of forgotten what's the age appropriate kind of a level of detail, I guess, for that. 14:28:38 It's great great, because they're starting to get like information from the outside is making an air. 14:28:44 And they're cooperative. Yeah, they're not. 14:28:47 Yeah, yeah. Remember when they wanted to hang out with us. Yup, I remember those days. 14:28:54 Yeah, we're logged on for sixth grade. Yeah, 9 to 11. 14:28:59 Yeah, they're capable. Yup, yup, okay. 14:29:02 Alright, great boom, boom! Boom! Well, no! For the first one I guess we do, because we'll both be in here that'd be from 1140 to 1210. 14:29:12 Sorry I can't be here. Maybe say 1130. I don't know. 14:29:16 Should we start a little? Oh, okay. So so, 1140, we can pump in circumstance. Call the meeting to order. 14:29:25 30. I think he has a drop agenda. 14:29:31 Okay. Okay. 14:29:36 The fourth graders, and I don't take a lot of action. 14:29:39 Yeah. Hmm, okay, well, so, as you might have heard yesterday. 14:29:54 But vote on the Blake fixed bill failed. 14:29:58 The Democrats were divided on how to handle, you know expected the division between Democrats and Republicans, but then the Democrats weren't able to come to agreement so pretty. 14:30:09 House literally, and the Blake decision. So currently there, you know, there's a temporary fix in place. 14:30:19 That drug possession can be charged as a misdemeanor, but that expires on July first. 14:30:25 So July first, you go back to no charging of drug possession, because they did not pay a a new bill, and the Why counties are really concerned is because a number of counties are already like raring to go to create their own laws to make their I. 14:30:50 Apparently they have the authority to say that it's a felony in this vacuum. 14:30:55 They can decide whatever they want, I mean against the Supreme Court. 14:30:59 Well, they just want something in place July first, and you know it's a mess like it will create this patchwork of their own treatments. Yeah. 14:31:10 And cities, within counties of cities want it to be one thing, and counties want it to be something else. 14:31:14 I mean, they just feel like it has the ability to cause such chaos in the court system. 14:31:19 So go from county to county, the rules will change. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chaos. 14:31:26 Yeah, so wasack is trying to decide how to respond. 14:31:31 So the the Governor is considering a special session calling folks back in to finish this before July first. 14:31:42 But you know he's gotta sign the budget in the next 20 days, like he's got a lot there's a lot that needs to be done to wrap up the work that was done in the session and there's a question as to whether or not they'd actually want there 14:31:59 to be a special session unless there is traction on some agreements. You know. 14:32:03 Be much better to have the caucuses be able to come back with a solution for a very short session, and apparently there's really high emotions. 14:32:15 People are mad about the outcome, even within the party in the Democrats. 14:32:20 Well, it's really the ideology of, you know. 14:32:25 Do you believe that there should be? Yeah. So that I think the crux is really on the gross misdemeanor I don't think there's most of the Republicans who, on a felony, but the yeah the question was should it be a gross 14:32:38 misdemeanor or just a misdemeanor. 14:32:39 And so, you know, really, this whole, you know, tough on drugs and crime stance. 14:32:45 There we go again! 14:32:50 So so that's one solution. The governor could call folks back in counties are worried that they have not really been consulted throughout the process. 14:33:05 And you know just so. As the legislatures kind of thinking of these solutions like, are they practical? 14:33:13 How can it be implemented? So Wesx, considering, contact with the legislators, I'm sure a vacuum of accounting right, and the prosecuting attorneys? 14:33:27 Have a you know, their professional association, but it's so. 14:33:32 Yes, the counties are represented to some degree in those conversations, but to really varying degrees, and you know, Westbic, well, I'm sure their membership leans very far right, and when you have a left leaning legislature, you know that function yeah, the nature of that input probably 14:33:50 wasn't taken very seriously. So at this point it doesn't feel like there's a coming together. 14:33:58 But in a couple of days, when tensions cool, maybe cooler heads will prevail, and they will decide to come back together, although everybody's exhausted. 14:34:06 Of course I don't know that legislatures really get how chaotic this is. 14:34:14 There's a sense that some people are happy with this outcome. 14:34:18 People who really want to prove that. That's you know, the decriminalization is, you know, leads to spiraling chaos. 14:34:27 There, chaos. So okay, so that's you know, an option that maybe folks will come back together in a few days. 14:34:36 There's a little bit of wait and see, but then what's Sec is trying to consider what it can do to be either inserting itself in those conversations. 14:34:43 Yeah, one of the one of the items we discussed was, you know, should we try to see if we can get the legislative steering committee to a consensus I'm not sure what? Oh, wow! 14:35:01 Was that a cute to belly laugh or pretty much I mean especially given how we spent our morning. 14:35:03 Yeah, that's seem really unlikely, while our counterparts are writing, you know. 14:35:07 Felony, resolutions on the other side of the State, so that I think we all agree that that is an unlikely scenario calling back together legislative steering committee to try and come up with something as unlikely proposal that was secet is to create some a 14:35:27 few boilerplates, ordinances that would at least have consistency. 14:35:33 So if counties decide to, you know, kind of choose one of a few routes that they have, that there's consistency. 14:35:40 So they're not white. Such a patchwork, but even like getting, you know, there's some question as to how much you can be able to get the legislative bodies on board with the prosecuting attorneys and the sheriffs for that language within each county so 14:36:00 yeah. So I think you know, we need to stay tuned. 14:36:08 I think we do. Wanna start thinking about what July first looks like. 14:36:13 If there is not a legislative fix, if there's any action that we would be interested or willing to take, especially for the you know, kind of dangerous criminal activity that we heard James talk about today, I mean, all that stuff is still illegal, and that's how I mean no not as of July. 14:36:33 First, I mean breaking into places, and all all the ancillary crops. 14:36:38 That's what he was saying. That's what he's saying. 14:36:43 For breaking in while they're in possession. 14:36:48 Although we I mean there you can bust for possession right now, and I know that they're not doing a lot of it because of the kind of uncertainty. 14:36:57 But yeah, I mean it. Just I think it's incumbent upon us to think about if there, if we wanna take some steps, so that would be obviously working with James and Joe and maybe that's where our we have the ability to write in about enth ageens maybe we'll be writing 14:37:14 a policy on our criminalization of some drugs and not others. 14:37:20 Would you criminalize some drugs? I would need a lot more information. 14:37:26 I've not been in that world. I do believe James and my sister and people who work in the courts, and say that sometimes a court order is the only thing that gets people into into treatment. 14:37:41 So I doubt I would be interested in removing all of abilities to do that. 14:37:47 But yeah, I mean third year courts exist, even if possession isn't the they picked up for, I mean. 14:37:56 And so picked up, okay, you're satisfying with this, and then still go into a a therapeutic version and get treatment that way. 14:38:08 I don't think. 14:38:12 Someone else would actually. But I don't think any of the drug quarter mental health for are being picked. 14:38:20 Simple possession. 14:38:22 More significant. 14:38:26 To get out of the, you know, gross, but can possession charges lead to dealers, for example. 14:38:42 I mean, I think that like I would. I would think that being able to charge people dealing that though, would be oh, that's yeah. 14:38:56 You can charge dealers, because that's the way it's. 14:39:00 Views it. I mean, definitely chilled. Yeah, because it's hard to prove intense. 14:39:07 So yeah, make sure of the case. Yeah, right? 14:39:11 Intent of possession. Alright! That was the. 14:39:19 Just because somebody has starts on them, doesn't. 14:39:20 Yeah, we don't that they knew about it, or that they. 14:39:25 Yeah, I think other people belong to that conversation, too. If we're talking about having to come up with policy like this because. 14:39:33 Just get the folks from law and order. You're gonna get an episode of law and order. 14:39:40 Over the recovery. 14:39:42 That support, mental health. 14:39:49 Do I first? Yeah, that's the only thing we know. 14:39:52 There's no other deadlines or anything at this point, so maybe we'll know more in a few days at least. 14:40:04 See how how people are responding are the causes or leadership saying, Yeah, we took this really seriously, we wanna fix it before July first. 14:40:12 Are they saying nothing? You know. 14:40:17 Hmm good. 14:40:22 I don't. I haven't been able to dig into it yet. 14:40:26 I would guess that they, my guess is that they were on the stricter wanted it to be a gross misleader. 14:40:36 Yeah, that's true. 14:40:39 Hmm! 14:40:42 Okay, yeah. So we're staying. Yeah, yeah. And I'll I'll try and get reports back. 14:40:53 I know it's like special session, and what? 14:40:58 Hmm any other large update you? 14:41:01 Wanna debrief from the end of the session. 14:41:06 Let's see. I don't know. Rollin. 14:41:09 Yeah, we're all in that. The Quarterly Meeting on Friday. 14:41:10 So, you're at the Quarterly Meeting on Friday. So you're off point oh, 9. Yes, that's great. Yeah. 4 years. 14:41:15 It took 2050 something. Now, yeah. 54, right? 14:41:25 Yeah, 52 or 4. I guess it's for it was 2 years ago I guess it's for it was 2 years ago I guess it's for it was 2 years ago I tried to pass it. Yeah, so none of us have to worry about that anymore. Probably not yeah, remind me, the other day. 14:41:41 How I'm a mom. I don't mean to. 14:41:47 We? Wanna yeah go through like, do you want to talk about transfer? I don't know what. 14:41:55 No, that's great. Yeah. There's work to do in our little committee cause there wasn't really an organization of holding. 14:42:07 Banner. Hello, Committee is agreed to stay at committee and okay as they, as they implemented. 14:42:20 Right, so, yeah. 14:42:26 I'm looking for legislative report from our lobbyists. 14:42:32 Good summary, the Nola. Hmm! 14:42:36 Hmm! 14:42:50 Transportation budget funds, capital facilities, investors, let's see the budget release. 14:42:58 This week includes total appropriations of 13.5 billion dollars included in the appropriations or various carbon reducing programs, and initiatives, funded through the clinic Commitment Act, such as the pedestrian and bike safety and safer routes to school grant programs 14:43:13 as well as investments in transit and transportation, electrification. 14:43:16 So that's good. No surprise. There! 14:43:23 Let's see, like I said we did get the electrical apprenticeship deadline extended. 14:43:37 The the funding for Edc. Is for grant writing did pass, which yeah, nobody seemed to be talking about that. 14:43:48 So the 5 million dollars for Edc is to hire grant writers. 14:43:53 Yeah, so we'll get some. Yeah, I mean, you still have to apply for it. 14:44:01 But yeah, oh, this is interesting. This says. 14:44:07 $350,000 to continue Dnr's pilot for selling specialty forest products on the Olympic and Pacific Cascade regions. 14:44:14 Do you know anything about that one for us? Maybe that's not much. Oh, sorry! 14:44:22 It's 1.4 million for the Ato Grant writers, so that 5 million is for locally led initiative seeking Federal funding. I'm not sure what that one is. 14:44:41 Again mentioned before the Condominium legislation passed. 14:44:49 Interesting. Did you see the of the you know they? Disallowed single-family zoning. But if I'm on our assistations, we're exempted from that. 14:44:58 So so 80% or are going to scramble. 14:45:10 So the reach for affordable housing did not pass we'd taken a position on that Yup. 14:45:20 The Legislature did not enact Inslee's proposal for 4 billion dollars in bombs that was supposed to be a voter initiative. 14:45:29 But did fund the Housing Trust Fund to 400 million dollars 60 million dollars for grants to look governments and pods to assist in the cost of utility improvements, or connections to new affordable housing projects, bringing down costs there 50 million dollars for transit oriented housing 14:45:52 40 million dollars for housing, finance, commission for land acquisition for affordable housing projects. 14:45:59 So good housing bills. 14:46:05 1460 was Teslan. Transfer it? The property tax cap lift did not pass. 14:46:14 That went right up to the end, the increasing their ability to remove the 1%. 14:46:20 Cap. Hmm! So those are the main ones we. 14:46:26 Yeah. So to be continued. Alright. Well, shall we take a quick look back and forward, and I would just say, one thing is that the 83 million dollars for so carbon demonstrration will have of that 2,000 acres that are going to be can be transferred older for us. 14:46:51 So at some point we'll wanna workshop. What for us? 14:46:55 We might want, I consider, recommending to them, and Mallory and I were in conversations to be in our region. 14:47:05 Talking about some specific parcels of this managing. But basically that's not going to manage. 14:47:12 That might be candidates, and is one of those. But there are some other. 14:47:22 The low hanging groups. So, but it's something I don't. 14:47:29 That means that conversation. The thing about what we know. 14:47:39 Cool, all right. You want. Look back, sure. 14:47:44 Last week, spent a lot of time working with the use career connected learning workforce development folks with the I seem to be just jumping into the like difficult issues these days. 14:48:00 So we had a something of an intervention listening session with the Weston stem network, and the staff was willing to just hear out the unhappiness from our providers. 14:48:15 And so they took in what was heard. And they're going to come back to that same group with some proposed changes for how they can operate. 14:48:27 This is really important because they the Western stem network, has set up a new office at Peninsula College to serve all of these organizations because they are funded by the State to have a couple of important designations. 14:48:44 I'm here. Oh, interesting! If we're been kind of so you know, they have a lot of money flowing to this area, including a Federal appropriation that Kilmer got specifically for career connected learning for Jefferson andalum counties and you know, so we really want to 14:49:08 basically have a lot more. Say, in how those dollars are spent and what was the root of the discontent? 14:49:16 I guess it was a consistent red. Yes, that's that. 14:49:23 The Peninsula has not been able to access the services that the West End stem network is funded to provide, and so that came in a lot of different forms. 14:49:36 But mostly it seems as though the consensus is larger. 14:49:40 School districts are funded to have a career and technical education director. 14:49:45 And you know they're large school district. We'll have maybe 2 or 3 Ftes for that role our school districts have about a point one or a point 2, and it's usually the superintendent or the principal who are way, too, busy, as it is and so the larger school 14:50:04 districts, just primarily, kids. App also pant angelist and swim. 14:50:09 Actually, they have cte directors that can effectively work with the West Sunste network to get what they want. 14:50:15 Our smaller districts haven't. Yeah, and they don't know what to ask for. 14:50:21 They don't have the time to be asking for the thing they have asked for is a cte director, and the network has said, That's not what we do. 14:50:29 And so now our folks kind of like too bad. That's not what you do. That's what we need like. 14:50:33 Are you willing to provide that? So we'll we'll see what they say. 14:50:42 Our folks. We're pretty excited that they also want some management control of the staff person. 14:50:49 There's been some sense of a lot of like gatekeeping even around the Jefferson Count or the Olympic Peninsula Staff person that they have not. 14:50:56 For example, been able to attend meetings. They were not allowed to set up meetings or take phone calls with people. 14:51:01 They had to run it through. Yeah, Kelly Watson's position so pretty. 14:51:11 Some pretty specific requests, you lose people, and that showed you a break in the system well, we lost Kelly Watson in the schools is unemployed, you know. 14:51:24 I mean, it's just. It's like a total loss. 14:51:26 On so many levels and and that's why it's I think so. 14:51:31 People feel so offended and disappointed by this outcome, so high emotions all around, and I think, you know, I think we just operate differently here, too, with a lot more social capital and relationship based. 14:51:44 And this organization and kids have isn't used to that level of kind of high touch, high relational value. 14:51:54 So it was a difficult meeting to lead and it's funny both groups ended up referring to me as Mom. 14:52:11 Like Mom has to come in and I could try to the fairgrounds end. 14:52:18 And this group mediate well, it's good that they trust their local representative. Yeah. 14:52:26 And I like, I actually don't have a dog in the fight. 14:52:26 You know, but I do care about getting the resources here, so. 14:52:35 Yeah, we'll see if I do after works. So Joy had to join Transit Authority Board meeting a little bit late, because that was long and difficult. 14:52:48 Meeting let's see, had another onboarding meeting with the State Board of Health. 14:52:52 They really get it onboarding, I'll say that. 14:52:56 Had a meeting with Chris Goy. Just go over any number of things that I'm always pestering him about. 14:53:03 So what about the community centers? What about C? It gave me on date charge? You know some municipalities think that giving away the giving the electricity is not a gift of public transport. 14:53:18 I think we should really dig into that I just I know city of Richin as free charges that I just I know city. 14:53:28 They handle everything. Well, I know, but they handle things by making a profit off of it right? 14:53:34 Yes, that would be a page but the it's also fast chargers that he's looking at. 14:53:41 Okay, we're talking 2 locations, 8 chargers each other. 14:53:49 But it's also fast chargers that he's looking at. Yeah, we're talking 2 locations, a charger just each. 14:53:51 Wow! Running covers. The whole cost. Okay? And so if they make a little profit yeah, yeah, no, I I don't mind a little profit as we're putting them up, you know, if you're talking about a level 2 charger, you're talking about very little electricity. 14:54:03 I think it just people. If there's a maximum time of 30 min for people to top off, I think this. 14:54:09 But yeah, I don't have a problem with charging for fast chargers. I think that is a fundamentally different thing. 14:54:16 Did you learn anything about the community centers from Chris? 14:54:18 Do you have any updates for us? Let's see the uptown for towns and community Center is Eric. 14:54:28 Kuzma's been working on that. 14:54:32 I think it's getting close to going out to bid it sounded like that project was was getting ready for yeah. 14:54:41 It's awesome that we're doing it. But I'm just hoping, yeah, I'm gonna smell it before we get to the project yeahup and Britain seemed a little bit further behind and it's sounding like that top story second story might have to come off that's been the plan for years yeah, yeah, so 14:55:02 not sure what the delay is there, but it sounds like things are moving they're moving it forward slowly. 14:55:07 Yeah, we're definitely hearing about that. We're down in Brandon for that town hall. 14:55:14 Oh, yeah. Well, it's worth yeah worth asking Christ for an update specifically on that. 14:55:20 And that one, of course, qualifies for Cdbg funds as well. 14:55:23 Nice. Yeah, Chris, gonna do a department update? Yeah. Well, I was away. 14:55:32 Can you talk about that yeah, it was like a little bit. I think it was March 20. 14:55:36 Fourth. Oh, yeah, I remember that. But I was just wondering about more specifics. 14:55:46 Let's see, we trying to see which one is the anyway childcare meeting the sounds like we will be getting funding from the Us. 14:56:00 Da, as co-plicants with the Y.M.C.A. 14:56:04 Bringing them on as co-pllicants is going to be a lot easier in terms of flow of funds. 14:56:11 Basically, everything won't have to go through us. Stuff can go directly from Usda to the Y.M.C.A. 14:56:15 Which is great. Yeah, we had to cancel a public meeting we had scheduled last week for those funds because of a notification error. 14:56:26 My thoughts, so it's rescheduled for a couple of weeks from now. 14:56:33 Head of fairgrounds. Meeting First full Board meeting of the new board, and it went pretty well. 14:56:42 I'm the chair I think it went pretty well. I'm the chair. 14:56:47 Yeah, I think that just you know, having a lot of experience with running meetings without having them devolve. Yeah, I think so. 14:56:57 It is Christie what is Christie's last name? 14:57:02 Pimintel, she's been involved for a long time. 14:57:05 She and Sue Mcintyre maybe related or just family friends, but they go away. 14:57:12 Emma. Yep, and Taylor, we both have been, and they're younger, and both involved. 14:57:20 With like Taylor does a lot of the maintenance facilities, facilities. 14:57:26 Yup! Yup! Yup! Has horses. Knows a lot about kind of regulation around arenas. 14:57:39 Yeah, so. 14:57:46 Let me know in the facilities. Walk around, as they said that we could all shoot. 14:57:51 It was yesterday. Yeah. Oh, yeah, sorry I did. 14:57:58 Yeah. Yeah. And Kevin Hitchcock printed off some beautiful maps of the fairgrounds. 14:58:03 Aerial view for folks to have, and markup, and that was appreciated. 14:58:08 Yeah, I was. I was surprised to see that the bathrooms haven't been repaired, which I thought that was the source of the funding we gave them. 14:58:18 I thought they had a project. We are actually the ones by the Rp department, yeah. Yeah. And did you hear anything about the leaks? 14:58:26 Yes. Yeah. A number of leaks have been fixed. 6 have been fixed recently. 14:58:35 There's 3 more they know about that. They need to grab, to dry out before they can continue with fixing those to dry out before they can continue with fixing those. I just remember Danny giving me a tour of the leaks. 14:58:44 Yeah, so I mean, it's there's just a lot to kind of clean up there. 14:58:53 The, so Rita Hubbard is no longer acting as interim manager Toby Mcinerney and Linda Noble have taken over that position as of today. 14:59:09 Actually Linda Noble, who we worked with, and Toby Mcinerney, who was also on the subcommittee. Okay. 14:59:23 Well, I send a note that the sell, the sell tower at the fairgrounds. 14:59:27 That project has reached from the dead the Verizon, one. 14:59:31 So I said, You know, okay, who do I deal with out there? 14:59:35 And so one of those 2, Yup, Yup, Linda and Toby Yup, dead zone out there. 14:59:41 So so hopefully that transition will go smoothly. 14:59:50 Rita is not helping with the transition. She just walked away and with the finance she was, she handed over all that with didn't really hand it over. 15:00:00 But she left so that, you know there's some hurt feelings and Glenda is still there helping transition the books over and get the books cleaned up. 15:00:11 But it's gonna be a rough year. 15:00:15 But the board is really committed, and jumping right in, we had this kind of facilities. 15:00:19 Audit walk yesterday, going through every building, and what needs to be done, and what has been done, and Jen was really focused on that. Yeah. Oh, good. 15:00:31 He had. He wasn't there yesterday. But we have a retreat this Saturday. 15:00:33 I mean, it's gonna be a big investment of time. 15:00:35 But we're really starting from scratch with committee's policies. 15:00:40 You name it. So it's gonna be a lot of work. But it's great to see how committed all these volunteers are. 15:00:45 Yeah, since I'm going to be away, or virtual for a few months Ben Thomas will take over for me as chair when I'm gone, which I appreciate. 15:00:56 I still plan to participate virtually, but if I can't, I would love to see if somebody else might stay on any here with help, with my fundraising scribbles. 15:01:04 The page I left. Oh, good. Yeah, yeah. Let me know. Okay, if they want someone to help them get organized on that front so yeah, I think they've got to get their arms wrapped up to see if somebody else might stay on any here. With help with my fundraising. Scribbles the page I left oh, good. 15:01:22 Yeah, yeah. For the bathrooms with the state that they think is expiring, but they don't know when. 15:01:25 And so it's, there's a lot of forensics to be done needing to be done, and so I think we're a little ways off from fundraising. 15:01:35 But it's that's gotta happen, too. So we do need to think about at rewriting our agreements. 15:01:43 And oh, good! Thank you. Set up a meeting with Kate. 15:01:49 Great and financial contribution. Right. We have promised to has enough congealed so that we know what to put in an agreement right? And I'm not. I don't know the answer to that question quite yet. 15:02:04 I think so. I mean, given that we want to stay at an arm's length for liability purposes. I think so. 15:02:11 I mean, given that we want to stay at an arm's length for liability purposes, but that we can build want in terms of transparency and reporting. 15:02:14 I think we could do it. I do think that getting staff on board is going to be really important for the success of this organization. 15:02:23 Since we've offered more funding, and that's what I believe they would be using that additional funding for. 15:02:31 I think it behooves us all to get the agreement done and with the agreement comes the funding, and you already set a number, I believe, right. 15:02:43 I think 50, 50, so I'd like us to be able to act on that sooner than later. 15:02:48 But that means you and I, working together on that one of the big concerns when I was standing in for you, and of course height, or I would be happy to whenever you need, was just making sure that there was enough money to get the fair going is that still, on top of the list. 15:03:05 Question they don't give short shrift to prep for the this year. 15:03:08 Yeah, trouble is, we have no idea how much money there is. 15:03:11 Oh, so yeah, there's a bank account. But there's a bunch of grants like outstanding that haven't done the invoicing. 15:03:23 Yeah, so that's a big question. The fair board did just submit a fair budget for the fair, which we think is way higher than it's ever cost, or way more money than we have. 15:03:38 So that's gonna be a little tricky. Having been a negotiate that. 15:03:41 Budget, so yeah, cause they never had a budget before. 15:03:48 They just spent as much as it took. So it's probably hard to go back and deconstruct that forensic yeah. Yeah. Is there a forensic accounting on the on the news word for the one in Brennan? Could we get him to come up? 15:04:07 Yeah. Is there a forensic accountant on the on the new board, the one in Brennan? 15:04:07 Could we get him to come up yeah, maybe we're trying to create harmony right? Right? Well. And Glenda is a a bookkeeper and so keeping her around for a little while to get quick books cleaned up, because it was one of those situations where there were like 4 people 15:04:20 working in the quickbooks. Account. Yeah. Cannot fly so she's going to get it totally cleaned up to hand off to Linda's going to be the treasurer. 15:04:28 She has some experience, but then we will we have a volunteer bookkeeper, separate bookkeeper right now, a professional. 15:04:35 But we do. Wanna hire a permanent bookkeeper. 15:04:39 So exciting times. Yeah, stay tuned. Yes. Where was I? 15:04:46 So I had my meeting with the sewer folks also. 15:04:52 Really enjoyed that. And love, you know, turn it on my policy brain to think. How do we? 15:04:59 How do we use? 15:05:03 Yup, did you agree with that? Okay, yeah. 15:05:11 So you know, as we start thinking about sewer ordinance, just how do we make but had, like the place to build and put density? 15:05:21 So really excited to work on that in coming months, Board of Health Monthly meetings love the public health heroes. 15:05:30 Of course that was a great meeting, and then Friday, mark and I had a long meeting with the aquatic center group. 15:05:41 As the consultants drill down to more specifics, we get, I think, a little more nervous about how to make the financing work. 15:05:54 So yeah, more to think about that. I like the Pfd idea, because we have facilities to so pfp, would that would involve sales, tax increment. 15:06:04 And if you look at hotel Moto, we have lots of people coming into town and sales. 15:06:09 Taxes are robust, and so we could get people who don't live here to help us pay for this thing. 15:06:17 So maybe a combination of a Pfd. With an Mpd sort of split the cost between. 15:06:27 And I just may. We can get the port to do it for us. 15:06:40 I don't know if there's any way to do it for us. 15:06:43 We can get the port to do it for us. 15:06:43 Do you wanna see the first? 15:06:49 Is, it is if they kind of look, is it just mountain view complexes? 15:06:53 What they're thinking about, Evan. Are they narrowed down the possible sites is not a final decision, because we have a meeting this week and to try and get input, from the county. 15:07:05 So when's that? That is on Thursday night of Sig? 15:07:13 I think. Yes, Thursday, from 6 to 8 at the Chimican High School Auditorium. But you'll be there. Yes. 15:07:28 I wouldn't be saying anything. Hmm! 15:07:34 They presented 4 different options. This is the base, the smallest, which is really just. 15:07:39 The pools with a little bit of office and classroom space. 15:07:44 This is around what 33 million is that the mark was 33. 15:07:49 What was the option? Yeah, it goes from 33 up to like 54. 15:08:01 Yeah, it goes from 33 up to 54. Yeah, this is option 3. But what's interesting is the more you build. 15:08:03 So capital versus oem. Well, they make assumptions about patronage, and I don't know how how much we'reliance we could put on those. 15:08:20 And they said, These are just the very first, like computer generated. 15:08:25 Schematics that they haven't kind of personalized. 15:08:28 It. That's always exactly added Way. That's an awful lot of open space inside in that lobby. 15:08:37 The lobby on the left, and then the birthday party room, which is a big generator and looking into the pool kids. Oh, you have the door end of the pool. Yeah. 15:08:52 Talked a lot about glare players a big deal for lifeguards. 15:08:58 So trying to put more glass up top to bring a natural light. 15:09:02 So those windows. People love the natural like their tape player. 15:09:08 Interesting, and that's where I am. 15:09:15 So I don't. I feel like I shouldn't share this yet. 15:09:18 Because it's not finalized and it'll go. It's fine. 15:09:21 The public meetings for this are May third and fourth Yup, but just in case some of this changes, I'm not sounds good, and the numbers yet in a public meeting. 15:09:31 So. But mountain view pretty much. What about like the recycler? 15:09:35 We just got some money for reconstruction, are they? 15:09:38 Are they not impacting the recycling location? 15:09:40 I think there's a I hope that the recycler you might find another better location, but the I don't think there's been talk of like changing that lead like, so I think so far as the recycling is not interested in that. Yeah. 15:10:01 But you know, if some questions to whether this city or the school district would try to entice them, you know, incentivize a lot of that depends on the golf course discussion, because that would be a good if they go with it. 15:10:14 Smaller size, I don't know if you saw the the golf course. 15:10:21 Consultants came up with 4 options, also 3. But yeah, oh, maybe it's 3, and one is to keep staying the same. 15:10:28 Oh, maybe that's yeah. So one of them is shrinking down the golf course and really making like the whole edges of the golf course. 15:10:37 The recreation area for other uses. One of which would be bike bye trails. 15:10:45 And so we thought that that could be a good location, a new home for the recycler. 15:10:48 It could be incorporated into that vision. So, but I think probably need to be some incentivization for that to happen. 15:11:00 You know, the secondary's put a lot of work into that place over the years, but it is the it's that is very valuable real estate for this project. 15:11:11 They're closed right now, right to the public. 15:11:14 They're not going to be a bike shop anymore. 15:11:16 Okay, so, they're really focusing on education, you know. 15:11:21 So there's some questions. Do they need that kind of high visibility corner? 15:11:25 That's really good for public surveying activities. 15:11:30 If they're doing, if they're not okay. And then I think to this, you know, some feeling of like, do you put it in a 32 million dollars brand new beautiful building next to bunch of different colored, you know, roofs. 15:11:47 And west end of the building also. So then there's 3 new pickle ball quarts going in. 15:12:02 Yeah, so those are. 15:12:06 There are a number of schematics that you'll see. 15:12:10 I'll share with you. And yeah, when I kind of decided on, so that's ready to go. 15:12:17 Sorry I'm not moving very quickly. It was a busy week. 15:12:22 So what did I get through? That was Thursday. 15:12:26 I believe. Thursday morning. No, that was all. The way to Friday morning, missed most of the Peninsula regional transportation planning, meeting. 15:12:35 Unfortunately, because healthier together, went along too pure. Tpo is in their hmm! I don't know. 15:12:45 7 or 8 year regional transportation plan, rewrite, and we want to make it a more interactive, web-based plan and they'll be seeking input from us it's interesting, I know, like I hear Monty and Eric saying, why, they don't want a transportation. 15:13:03 Planner, but I just I can't help but feel like, you know, hearing like more funding for safe routes to school. 15:13:11 And like that, we, yeah, yeah, so I, yeah, I just wonder if we wanna encourage them to keep that position open till we find the right person, because it's like, there's a lot we could be doing with trails. 15:13:25 And you know, if, like the sound to coast the Pacific. 15:13:36 Yeah, but what's the local? The grant that was p to P. 15:13:44 That we could then have capacity. We'd have some capacity to contribute to efforts like that if we had that position filled. 15:13:55 So that's something I'm still not convince. 15:13:58 We don't need then our coordination meetings with the question, our quarterly meeting with elected department directors and electeds. 15:14:09 It's always nice to catch up with folks. There anyways, to learn a lot what our departments are doing. 15:14:17 And and I think I. 15:14:20 Oh! So I think it took off for the day. But I did some background stuff after that on Friday, but still left a little bit early on Friday, after tough week, and then, like I said Sunday. 15:14:31 Spent yesterday, good check. The day at the fairgrounds, checking out facilities. 15:14:37 So that was my week. Alright, thank you. It does sound busy. 15:14:42 Let's see. Did you finish? He did. Okay. Well, I was with you guys Monday, and then grab the owl camera and went down to Brennan for the North Hood Canal Chamber of Commerce meeting, and met with they were Habitats for Humanity was 15:14:59 presenting, so Jamie and crew may, we're there, and I had the board meeting. 15:15:04 I had to leave for their presentation, but seen it before but they've got a lot more dollars for home repair and South County partially due to us, and so they're really kicking off that program and doing a lot of that work. 15:15:15 And I rushed to anything other than the 3 street project. Yeah, it's good to hear the other stuff's going. 15:15:26 Oh, yeah. No. And it's really it's growing. And I met Bob there, the construction manager. 15:15:30 Then I went backup still Monday night, to the closing community center for the the delayed because of snow in March. 15:15:39 I think, screening of love in the time of Fentanyl. 15:15:44 And watch that movie, great Independent lens love that program. And it's really interesting about was a shorter version, was only an hour long. 15:15:53 Instead of the 2 h that I think it is. But it was about a you know. 15:15:56 At least started safe use, facility and vanity. 15:16:01 Vancouver that was it was really it was really powerful. 15:16:06 Yeah. Good stuff and participated in in a panel with Dr. 15:16:10 Carloba, local, paramedic, and our Emt. 15:16:15 Excuse me, and and a er nurse real good conversation. 15:16:20 Good crowd, probably 30 people at the same community center. 15:16:25 So it was pretty good attendance our North Hood Canal Chamber meetings are actually getting great attendance. 15:16:32 Tuesday morning I showed you the video earlier. I made. 15:16:36 That will be slightly edited, and published on our website, our county, Facebook page. 15:16:41 But I went on account cares right along, and really appreciated the interface of paramedic and mental health worker. 15:16:52 I thought that was a really good fix, and it does, I think, qualify for behavioral health dollars. 15:16:55 You know, that was kind of the big debate. It's I mean, like the the person, Grant, that we had. 15:17:04 That's like specifically opioids, and not so much. 15:17:06 But it is really important, and to my own personal life, you know, I'm dealing with the same certain things of these folks that are as they age in place and maintain independence. 15:17:18 And when does it become a burden on your family or your if you don't have any family society? 15:17:24 And even if you do have family society, so it's I think it's really good program. 15:17:30 Other folks. We saw some people. We talked to some children of folks that you know, lived remotely, and there, you know, folks are trying to live independently as they go into dementia, and you know old law officer, that is, one feels threatened. 15:17:49 You know, talks about the weapons they have, and island you're not going to be able to threaten me, even if I'm the one that's being in coherent. 15:17:56 And it was pretty scary. So this, yeah, every single one of them that we went to was senior in every house that I went to was, and Pauline. 15:18:07 Yes, very different. I'm so scared to them. No support structure, you know. 15:18:20 These. They were like hairdresser to the stars. Back in their life and, you know, had lived lives of accomplishment and lived just the life they want to now are wasting away, in a hobble where they need more and more support and don't have any familiar or financial way to 15:18:35 get. It's pretty scary. 15:18:38 Really it was really, how is yours different? You're in none of the houses we went to were if the house no, no houses were in a state of disrepair, even disorderly. 15:18:58 The food thing was. 15:19:02 Yeah. Someone else in my life. Right now, they just kind of forget to eat. 15:19:06 Stop eating, and that was an issue that was came up to, you know, wasting away and open the fridge, and there's no food that's not just a scarcity issue that's condemned mental health issue as well. 15:19:20 Some addiction issues elderly. Alan, I think they said 80% or over 65. 15:19:27 So it's not exclusive, but I think the vast majority are these high utilizers of 9 1 1. 15:19:33 And that's the inputs the way I'm not sure that was explicit. 15:19:36 But the input is all 9, 1 one calls that come in and come in from law enforcement, primarily fire and ems, and then are distributing. 15:19:45 So it's just the case management that normal paramedics can't do that. 15:19:50 They've been dealing with for a long time. I think you know, Reagan, and before it's interesting that you know I was involved with my neighbors, I mean, ultimately she had to be. 15:20:00 You have her rights removed, to be held at the hospital and died there 81 days. 15:20:07 So very expensive there. But she was not eating. 15:20:12 She dementia? She was not eating, and she was picked up shoplifting, and not because anybody wanted to charge her. 15:20:22 For years people have been hey for her. Behind behind her, in line, and the Co-OP has been covering her, and I mean, you know, really very supportive community. She was. 15:20:32 She was known and loved by strangers, I mean just because she was always around. 15:20:41 And but it was sadly she needed and kind of like what James was talking about. 15:20:45 She needed to be to have a reason for law enforcement, to get involved, to be able to get her some services, cause she was, you know, wasting away, and it was. 15:20:56 It was when police came to to check her house that they found she left the stove on, and you know, just fire waiting to happen like you name it there's like so many ways that that could have gone wrong, and we were on a couple of calls with Apf and what triggers that is not being 15:21:12 able to take care of. Oh, I was, for Atl is the acronym. 15:21:17 Adult daily living. But you, you, if you can, you know, feed yourself and better than half, even if you're completely and the throws of dementia, and can't remember who you're talking to, you can still feel feel those tasks there's nothing that 15:21:34 anyone can do. 15:21:41 Yeah. One of my parents friends taking care of their 100 year old parent, and I can just only imagine my parents taking care of their parents and my oh, my work! 15:21:54 Yeah, it's really a massive problem it's lack of connection. 15:21:59 Like, I'm saving that Yup one of the things that came up both in love and the time of Fentanyl is the as several people said, as the most, the biggest trigger to addiction, and also came up in the cares Ride was alone. 15:22:12 Isolation, and then I went and had a lovely lunch with a director, butler and Josh Pears talked about many of the things going on over a Dcd. 15:22:26 Then we went to the transit meeting, where I went in person, so I could sit in our new electric bus so I could sit in our new electric bus. 15:22:42 There it is! 15:22:45 Oh, yeah. They turned it on for me, and then it was so quiet that everyone forgot that it was on there's an alarm that goes on. 15:22:55 If you step away from it when it's on, you look like a natural. 15:23:01 For a ride, and also at the transit authority meeting. 15:23:07 Of course we authorized the recruitment of our 2 new transit authority members, so I know there's some some interest I've heard from a couple of the agencies, but I think those are going out for what is it opens on the 20 eighth the new application period. 15:23:21 For other electeds in the area met with planning. 15:23:24 Commissioner Cohen, and then had a meeting with Orca Ed about some of the finance questions going on salary studies, and everything that we are finishing up at Orca. 15:23:36 Then I had a lunch with Barb Jones, our new chip director, was really great. 15:23:42 Good to spend some time with her and understand and the long path in front of us, and how more and more legislature, setting this up as a that are part of the foundation of public health rather than periodic so good that was good met with someone with recommendations about the for the housing survey 15:24:06 who at work with I forget what agencies should work for. 15:24:09 But some great notes. We had a good conversation and I want to spend an hour with Scott Carpenter and Brett Butler again, and Josh Peters and my AI. 15:24:20 And we we went through some cams and put it into the chat bot on bin, with mixed results. 15:24:27 But I think they saw Brett said he was sold, but I think they see a lot of applications for saving time. You know. 15:24:36 I mean, just a lot of the laborious things are like research. 15:24:38 Sometimes it came back with the wrong Rcw. So like the accuracy of the information that we're getting back. 15:24:45 Was still needed to be verified, and that was, you know, a big, sticking point. 15:24:51 But the speed at with which you can make lists for folks, and I think generated the idea of maybe some more online kind of cam back and forth with folks that it would be human, directed Chatbot supported. 15:25:08 But I don't know they're gonna try it out. 15:25:10 I think they're gonna try to get everyone to turn it on on their on their workstation and at least start using it. 15:25:16 And people, you know, were concerned about it taking away jobs. And I'm I repeated a line I heard from someone else that you know a chat box, not going to take the job. 15:25:26 Someone that knows how to use a chat. Bot might take your job, though so you should learn how to use it. 15:25:30 And are you able to specify that you're searching? 15:25:35 Jefferson County is code. So it's the wrong. 15:25:43 Rcw. But it would come back with Rcw. 15:25:45 Sites and everything, and it would dig through our code and come up with answers and put a big list together. There's a lot of guardrails they've put in place now, so like if you try to ask even for the lyrics to a song they're like oh, that would violate 15:25:59 copyright you know things that you can do on Google. No problem. 15:26:01 But yeah, it was pretty powerful and making a list like, you need to do this and this and this, I can go. 15:26:10 I I can grab the cams, but like so I typed in my address, and I'd like to build this you tell, and they I like what you need to know. How do I? 15:26:20 How do I build a house on this property? Well, you need to know what your zoning is. 15:26:24 Can you tell me what my zoning is? Yes, and I told me accurately what my zoning was, how big my property was, so it's able to dig in and find all that information out, and then I was like, what were the steps that I would have to do to this and they you know sometimes 15:26:37 they listed public works instead of Dcds. So occasionally they kind of interlated the department that would actually make the decision. 15:26:44 But they every time it was fairly accurate about the steps they would have to go through to to get the project done. 15:26:51 So we were just working from existing can request historical cams that we had the. 15:26:57 We had the kind of the printouted report. 15:27:00 So the printed report. So it was. It was slow going, and imperfect, but I think if you, continuing to work with it as its products evolve, it will be pretty powerful, and it's a to support humans doing that work. 15:27:17 So we just invested what 1 million and a half dollars in the new software system there, and I, you know I can't wait for the time that it would be great if that had it integrated in it'll be able to be I think, within 5 years. 15:27:36 And this is going to be be able to ingest your own data sets and have one that doesn't go out. It's not gonna make mistakes, because you're like, I want you to use the Rcw, the whack Jefferson county code. 15:27:45 Udc and our website and nothing else. And answer these questions. 15:27:50 And oh! And then gis, right? So it gets all that public information. 15:27:54 It failed to get in and find what permits have been pulled. 15:27:59 It isn't that that level of granularity? 15:28:02 But it was pretty successful at generating quick answers. 15:28:08 Yeah, start with a query. And then you can like, each session builds on itself. 15:28:14 Yeah, so you get different answers to if you query it differently, or go through a different. 15:28:21 That's why. But from that one question, starting with your I'm open-minded, curious. 15:28:38 So that was Wednesday, and on Thursday did the broadband Advisory Committee meeting. 15:28:48 It reminds me how far we've come. 15:28:50 Everyone is basically where we were when I was first took office, and we were like we should make a broadband action team. 15:28:56 And that seems like, really what extension is helping folks do is just make functional. 15:29:02 Bats, but that was, and everyone else is just trying to do it themselves, too. Yeah, I mean, there's big players like King County. 15:29:10 They're trying to do it. And I think they have they have a conference in a couple of weeks that I can't go to a kiditas county where we're gonna go and hash out. 15:29:17 But it's just commissioners and county staff, and I'm like, you know, you've got other agencies that are much better at building and engineering. This kind of infrastructure. 15:29:27 And there's different Pds do different things, of course, different ports are either interested or not, so most people do not have the benefit of another public sector ally that is really taking a lead on this work, and that may feel very privileges. 15:29:42 To be in Jefferson, but then I encourage you should invite, you know. 15:29:47 Pds and Ports. To this, because it's great, I mean, I think I shared it with you. 15:29:54 But one of my greatest pleasures that I've had at a bat meeting was going through the uula. 15:29:58 You know the contract agreement for all the people, and like having an open public session about what should go into that. 15:30:03 Not just agreeing to them without knowing if I've signed my soul away. 15:30:08 So I very impressive agenda planning with Mark on Thursday, and then we had the Board of Health Meeting and then I went and had a meeting with the Skate Park Group in the evening. 15:30:24 And I know, yeah, you're looking for contracts. 15:30:27 Yes, we're close, I think so. There's been some balking from their fiscal sponsor count me in for quilting, since they've lost about half of their capacity as my folks have left town, and they just don't want to get involved in something where they're having to do 15:30:45 much more than take a check and write a check. But we had a presentation from it's called Bryant House. 15:30:51 Grind line grin line, which is a Washington State skate, park manufacturer, I've got their notice of qualifications that they had sent with their grant. 15:31:02 We probably all got that in the Arpa Grant and their services to conduct community charades, design and plan a a skate park runs about $1520. So it's very well we gave them 20. 15:31:21 So I was really saying, Yup, that looks good, and I talked to Kevin for Quilson about my mom and letting her know about that really kind of allayed some of their concerns. 15:31:31 So this weekend I'll be going to the count me, and for quilting meeting to say Hey, if you're gonna shepherd them through this, it's gonna be a lot easier than them forming a 501 c 3 or a state nonprofit. 15:31:38 So that's still getting worked out. The agreement I did invite them to the public meeting we're having with is the park walk through the park, you know. 15:31:50 The parks, and Rec Advisory Board is going down to will scene in the middle of May, so they're going to come down and talk to the Parks and Rec Advisory Board about it. They've got a place where they want to put it which is you know big they want a 4,000 square 15:32:03 foot. Skate Park, according to current costs, they said, 75 to $80 per square foot. 15:32:10 So it's like a 350,000 $400,000 skate park. 15:32:14 There's a lot more than they were thinking, looking at the old, the prices of the old State parks in there. 15:32:20 But they're like, Oh, yeah, we should raise the money by the fall, and we'll get building and like, well, you can get this planning process done by fall. 15:32:27 You would be moving at light speed. So let's work together. 15:32:28 So they're very enthusiastic and just getting into it. 15:32:34 But within a week or 2 we can get a pretty simple contract. 15:32:37 I think that cost is really gonna be just for hiring this designer to go through the community design project process I think their grant proposal was limited to that so I think that'll work. 15:32:53 And there's no rush. We don't have the money yet. 15:32:55 Yeah, and we may not so I think that'll work, and there's no rush. We don't have the money yet. Yeah. 15:32:59 And we may not. The money is currently at risk. Oh, well, but it's already been. It's only if it hasn't been ded obligated, I think the term obligated. Yeah, yeah. 15:33:07 And what is that mean? Well, but this was whether Congress had appropriated, and Nico said that Congress had appropriated almost all of those funds right? 15:33:24 But when you, the Board, appropriates money it's not obligated until we have a contract. 15:33:26 But I think that what's at risk is the yeah. 15:33:32 What is left in Congress that has not been appropriated. 15:33:35 And it's Nico said. Almost all of it has been appropriate I don't think that has to do with our spending. 15:33:42 I think it's their trigger. Hmm, smoke and mirrors about the budget process well, and I I didn't follow up with it too much in part, because I know that our legislators are all on the right side of this. 15:33:56 Our Congressional delegation but yeah, I did. I was curious. 15:33:59 Your reading of that, because it was worded in a funny way in the. 15:34:07 In the Senate. I don't think old Cloud back so. 15:34:11 But we, you know this may be the time when we do default. 15:34:18 Hmm! 15:34:21 Hmm, hmm, yeah. Well, no, hopefully not. I don't know. 15:34:30 Okay. On Friday I participated in the annual head. 15:34:35 Start self-assessment. I'm looking at early childhood readiness. 15:34:41 Part of the Federal grant process, always fascinating to dig through charts with really childhood educators, basically. 15:34:50 But that was from 9 to 11, and then we had the county coordination meeting, which is great, and I had my meeting with Bob, and at all about the the sewer and the sewer ordinance, which is gonna be coming fairly soon and then I didn't make 15:35:07 the housing solutions. Happy Hour, because that meeting went long, so. 15:35:13 I didn't make it happen, and that was my fairly busy week, too. 15:35:19 Mark, you, wanna talk about last week, sure, since I was gone the previous almost 2 weeks I didn't have a lot planned for last week. 15:35:30 But I was missing. On Monday, the seventeenth, came back on Tuesday, had 2 items on that day, one that will not surprise you. 15:35:40 It was to meet with Brent and Josh to go over what happened on Monday. 15:35:45 And I'm really sorry I missed that presentation to the Board on the Closure for Dcd. 15:35:52 And a plan going forward. But I do thank you for giving them time to to formulate a plan and to consult with prosecuting attorney and with the assessor regarding ways. We can streamline the process. 15:36:08 Then on Wednesday we add the childcare project meeting with the hospital in the Y.M.C.A. 15:36:18 And Michael, Mark and Kate, and then following that, that with the Judy Shepard and and Sarah to talk about how to estimate the cost of the well, I gotta be careful what I say here to do. Some calculations regarding collective bargaining. 15:36:41 And then on Thursday. 15:36:46 What do I do on Thursday? Had a brief meeting with with Josh about the plan ahead, and that was just Joshua myself. 15:36:59 And then I had my weekly check-in with Chris Goy, and then on Friday we had the coordination meeting. 15:37:07 Then I had my one-on-one with with Brent Butler, and then I attended the interactive meeting on the sewer and what I got out of that mostly, was the required subsidy. 15:37:20 And Judy and I are gonna meet tomorrow to start figuring out how to meet that financial requirement, because that will need placeholders in the budget for 2425. 15:37:31 But that's a subsidy, and I've got ideas. 15:37:35 I know Marty wants to hit the hit the Pif fund, and I'll I'll be chatting with Heidi about that. 15:37:45 But that wouldn't qualify I don't think O. And M. 15:37:49 Would qualify for pif expenditure. 15:37:55 Principally for capital. Yeah, we'll have to check that, because I do know that there was a proposal to fund some Om. 15:38:05 No, that was yeah. That's worthy of some research. 15:38:12 Yeah, and yeah, and so, yeah, we talked about like, is there a way to have their? You know? 15:38:21 Be able to use some of the funds that we have or path, or maybe the cash flow kind of reserve fund. 15:38:31 We set up, but put aside some money for at least for the capital. 15:38:35 Replacement part of it like seed that so that we don't have to be charging users, that but that we're drawing from that for the so I think, trying to get creative with the funds that we haven't need to get obligated on our end. 15:38:52 But we'll have to look into what's possible. 15:38:56 Alright! So we'll have ideas for you that that I'm sure when Monty makes his presentation in the fall for the buy annual budget that that'll be part of his presentation. 15:39:07 And of course Judy and I will talk with the board. 15:39:10 Well, before that. And we'll likely put something in the boards. 15:39:17 Memo to electives and directors, we'll have a paragraph talking about the super we anticipate needing that for 24 or 25. 15:39:25 Well, I sent Marty. I know we talked about it yesterday or on Friday. 15:39:30 I said, I'm a note saying, Remind me when the subsidies do but not till it's in operations right? 15:39:37 So I think. Late 25 or 26, I mean, it would be only when it was actually operating. 15:39:42 I wouldn't say late. 25. I think we're hoping to turn it on. 15:39:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah, wait. 24, will late 23 and 24. Yeah, it could be 25 late. 15:39:55 24. A functioning sewer that is going to be the trigger to to the supplementary Supplementary fund will be an operational sewer. 15:40:03 I think. 15:40:09 This one don't want to decide. At the last minute, however mute that requirement. 15:40:15 So that was it? Alright! Great, thank you. Shall we look at the week to come? 15:40:27 I'm not you. Wanna start, Heidi? Hmm! 15:40:33 Tomorrow. I have some. Homework to do in the morning, and then have a Community Foundation Board meeting. 15:40:44 Then I have I lost a bet with our county administrator and I'll have to take him to lunch. 15:40:51 What was the back? I know what's that? It was survey results. 15:40:55 How many people respond to the strategic plan survey percentages? 15:40:59 And I I guess one, because people so many people responded. 15:41:05 So that's great. Last time you're not optimistic, right? 15:41:08 Hmm! Sometimes I'm a business. Let's see, and then I'll be with you guys in the later in the afternoon. 15:41:19 And then, Wednesday morning we have the Budget Committee meeting, and then after that I have a Olympic Peninsula tourism strategic plan meeting which conflicts mark with our strategic planning weekly strategic planning meeting so I will not be at the weekend plan meeting. But did we cancel it for this 15:41:41 week. I know it was cancelled last week. 15:41:45 I don't. I? I couldn't remember what we decided for this week. 15:41:52 Yeah, no, it's still on my schedule. Take good notes, and then most of Wednesday afternoon I have the first Wsu interview candidate, and then that evening there's the community foundation impact report launch event, the Maritime Center Thursday morning and second Wsu 15:42:18 candidate, and then I have couple ofatives on the Thursday afternoon. I don't know what's gonna happen Thursday afternoon. 15:42:27 Friday morning I have my third Wsu interview candidate. 15:42:32 So, a rigorous process. 40 min presentation. 15:42:39 Yeah. And I remember from the last time, yeah, one, maybe not the last time, but the time before. 15:42:43 Okay, their faculty number. So well, you were when we were recruiting to fill this position. 15:42:53 We had the candidates to a short presentation. Yeah, via zoom. 15:42:57 And I think their presentation was what 10 min, 5, or 10 and 40 is just brutal but it's an academic equipment. 15:43:15 They were given a question. Good question. I can find it to do with the area study. 15:43:20 No, it has to do with community engagement. I'll find it. 15:43:26 You can go on to something else, and I can update when I find it. 15:43:31 Unless you wanna. 15:43:38 Let's see. 15:43:40 No questions. I think we still have a 30 people in the audience. 15:43:46 No, I don't know. I'm guessing the dedicated. 15:43:51 The dedicated ones are still here. 15:43:55 Has been so oh, good! 15:44:05 And for anyone listening at home that might be able to pick up my child. 15:44:10 She's on the school bus. 15:44:25 Hmm, thank you so much. 15:44:46 On to something else. 15:44:51 I think I was d10, okay, Kate, you want to go through your week. 15:44:55 Okay. 15:44:59 Oh! 15:45:01 Do not have an evening meeting tonight which Monday evening they kill me. 15:45:09 Yeah, it's really hard, it's all. The last week I had 1 4 out of 5 or something. 15:45:15 Yeah, especially on Monday after. I mean, not that you guys are tiring, but there's something exhausting about sitting on this all day. 15:45:21 Yeah. And then, you know, occasionally I'll have to do a city council meeting, and then you're like, what is wrong with these governments. 15:45:29 They have the most boring meetings, oh, right, that's ours, too. 15:45:35 All right. Tomorrow. I have a Economic Development Council Finance Committee meeting. 15:45:39 Than a Puget Sound day on the Hill Preparation meeting. 15:45:45 That's I have a feeling that Ducka Bush project might be getting more traction in our Puget Sunday on the hill work with that 41 million dollars from the State that pushes it into a different category hmm. 15:46:01 I have an empowered teens coalition meeting tomorrow afternoon, and then get to hang out with our lovely administrative assistants to honor and celebrate and thank them. 15:46:13 Wed Wednesday. We have budget committee meeting. 15:46:18 Then I have a fairgrounds meeting with one of the fairgrounds. 15:46:23 Governance Committee members to talk about various policies, a. 15:46:30 We have a weekly childcare meeting now with all the partners and just can't thank Michael Mark enough for his work hurting those Cats Housing Fund Board meeting that afternoon. 15:46:43 Jefferson community Foundation reception sounds like at least 2 of us will be there, and I have no interest in talking county business. 15:46:50 There, so I promise to not. Yeah. I have a glass of wine in my hand and will not be talking county business now. 15:46:59 Thursday morning I have a call. The Municipal Research Service Center. 15:47:05 I am responsible for recruiting new Board members for that, having conversation with somebody that morning. 15:47:12 Then have I second a call with a second person in the running for the County Commissioner position. 15:47:21 It was quite an impressive list. It's a big list. 15:47:23 Yeah, yeah, I, I was like, this is for shadow. 15:47:28 Our next year's races. I know, I wonder, but I mean with Christina Ralph. 15:47:34 This seems like a step backwards if she doesn't want to. 15:47:37 Being with home as much. 15:47:42 But yeah, she had such a powerful position. She's already stepped down from ways and means. 15:47:47 Really, yeah, which is the second most powerful ranking. Remember that legislature. 15:47:52 Wow, yeah, crazy. So I'm yeah. She's really surprised. 15:47:59 Did you hear that? Senator Christine? Ralphis threw her hat in the ring for the Kitsup County Commissioner position! 15:48:07 Did you hear that? Okay, I step down from his position. 15:48:12 That's a rare event. Yeah, yeah. Hmm, I hope to attend the Wsu interview on Thursday. 15:48:26 I cannot. Let's see only one I can attend, so I'd like to do that have a North Olympic Development Council meeting that afternoon. 15:48:34 So we still don't have the rule writing for the recompete. 15:48:39 Grant, the big Kilmer, Eda Grant. But it's getting close. 15:48:47 And just so, you know that we're gonna start kind of convening folks who are interested in kind of maritime. 2 point. 15:48:55 O, so whether that's energy production or electrification or carbon sequestration or processing products from the sea, it seems like that is kind of where Jefferson is gelling around our portion of that cloud and wants to do something similar. 15:49:18 But with timber products, and we're still hoping to do a joint proposal with them. 15:49:23 So, if you have any ideas for folks as we start convening people who are interested in this realm, let me know and hopefully they're on our list. 15:49:33 But if not, it'd be good to not leave anybody off of them. 15:49:37 Yes, Yup, yup! And might need some shellfish contacts from District 3. 15:49:45 Yeah, maritime center, obviously wouldn't school wouldn't vote building Marine Science Center. 15:50:01 And how is that gonna reconcile well, it's these are, for, you know, regional. 15:50:08 I don't get the sense that they want it to be one sector. 15:50:13 It's supposed to be more regional economy. Yeah, and little more comprehensive. 15:50:20 What are all the things that you do to support multiple industries like? Okay? 15:50:26 So we'll see I mean, if the rule writing comes out and says, we really want you to go deep in one sector we'll do that, but we don't have that kind of guidance yet, so we'll do that. But we don't have that kind of guidance. Yet. 15:50:35 So asking questions along those lines. But it is. It's natural resource, based. 15:50:40 What is the next phase of natural, resource-based economies that aren't just extractive, and that's the case. 15:50:46 We're hoping to make. Yeah, definitely part of it. 15:50:52 Then I have a meeting with this empower. The peninsula is the Federal appropriation we have from Kilmer for this career connected learning. 15:51:02 One of the projects. That's kind of going sideways. 15:51:04 Meeting with that, and then that Chimichan open house on the healthier together, aquatic center. 15:51:10 Thursday evening, Friday. Have the fourth graders here, I have the fourth graders here then I'd be surprised if you hear. 15:51:23 And Shivin comey, are you building it out here? 15:51:24 Yes, no, that I am already on the agenda answering that question. 15:51:30 Yeah, we gotta dig up the market survey. That shows the density you need in order for them to get well utilized and really needs to be in towns. 15:51:41 Timing is a little unfortunate cause. If the uga were turned on, headlock could be considered. 15:51:49 But at this point it doesn't make sense I don't know if you saw Friday at noon is doing a legislative recap presentation that should be good but you're going to be with the fourth grade. 15:52:09 I'll shoot you're right well you're going to be with the like, I said Saturday, hoping to do Camp Bo. 15:52:13 Sit, work party, and that's it. I did find the presentation topic for the Wsu candidate, and it's well the one they use last time, which we've agreed to essentially use this time, again, is building a proactive extension program. 15:52:33 In Jefferson County opportunities and approaches the Jefferson County director is responsible for developing an overseeing programs across several areas of extension, including community and economic development agricultural and natural resources and youth and family share your vision for creating inclusive effective and forward-thinking 15:52:52 programming in Jefferson County. Give specific examples of what you have brought, what you bring to the position with your unique area of expertise, as well as how you might approach fostering programs and partnerships outside of your field of experience. 15:53:08 They'll present for 30 min, for I guess 40 min, followed by a 15 min question and answer. 15:53:15 I think that's generally the timing nice. 15:53:18 Yeah, yeah. That's why I'm yelling. Yeah, I wasn't because of anything plug that into your bot and see what it comes up with. 15:53:27 Oh, yeah, you want an hour. I mean, it'll do an hour presentation for sure. I got it. 15:53:31 Alright. It just reminder. I'll be here next Monday, but not the following 8. 15:53:40 That'll be alright. My week this week I've not really too many nighttime evening meetings. 15:53:49 Which is good. Tomorrow. My was coming. Some kids jumping at the playground, but they've got a cold. 15:53:56 So that's been rescheduled. I am here in the morning for the Quarterly Finance Committee, and then in the afternoon to celebrate the great support staff that we have on Wednesday I'll be at the Budget Committee meeting, and then. 15:54:14 Film, and Mickey about diving with a local company down in Point Whitney, and then I will go for the Seventh. 15:54:18 Haven Development meeting one of the last, the day in developing meetings, and I'm sure it'll have some good news now that we've heard that great news about the appropriation for the childcare at 7 7 and when I will go to the Housing fund Board meeting that I will also 15:54:34 join you both at the Jefferson Community Foundation, and you will that's where they talk about the accomplishments right looking forward. 15:54:44 I will not talk about any accounting work either. Happy to do that. 15:54:49 Thursday, another Jeff com meeting hopefully. We'll get good news about the job. Offer. 15:54:56 We made to the prospective Ed there and then. 15:55:01 I'm going to cover the front desk. A Dcd. 15:55:04 For a couple of hours. So you know I'll be a Dcd. 15:55:08 From 11 to one, and agenda planning, and then take the kiddo to a doctor's appointments. 15:55:15 No key peninsula. I'll be here for the fourth grade field trip for the beginning. 15:55:21 At 1140 I should write that down, and what 11? What time is it actually start? 15:55:28 1140, the two-venth. So Thursday, from 11 to one Yup, I could take over at once. 15:55:36 Oh, yeah. Okay. 15:55:42 I'm sorry. 1130, say 1140, but I'll I'll put it in 1130, and I'll actually be here on time. 15:55:48 Okay. I guess I can do the HUD. 15:55:51 How's America? Check in with? And then I will go at 1230. 15:55:58 I'm gonna be joined by past and current. Edis of Olycap, Dale, Wilson, and cherish Cron Miller to talk about Seventeenth Haven with Jim Burke on the week. 15:56:09 County radio program at 1230 to one. Did you guys bring a song for them to play out? 15:56:18 They had a song going I forget, and I didn't have a suggestion for all. 15:56:25 And then solid waste task forces meeting after that from one to 3. 15:56:31 Al promises me this is the one where it starts to get really fun. 15:56:34 So, I've enjoyed them all, but it's been kind of a little nebula so far, but I think we're really digging into the potential sites that we got briefly presented on here at this at a board meeting a couple of weeks ago. 15:56:48 Hmm! And that is my week, Mark. How's your week? 15:56:54 Look little busier than last. Of course, all day to day with the board tomorrow. 15:57:04 The Finance Committee meeting with you. Greg, the treasurer, and the auditor, and then I meet with with Wendy and Brent. 15:57:15 We're talking a little bit about the meeting that we had on Monday, and the plan going forward trying to develop some messaging on that. 15:57:27 Then the meeting to talk about sewer subsidy is an 11 to 1130 tomorrow. 15:57:33 With that with Judy, Heidi and I are having lunch, and then we have the A team meeting, and then, of course, I mentioned that, being on the massage table from 4 to 5 30 unfortunate timing there then on Wednesday we have Budget committee. 15:57:55 And then the Strategic planning committee meeting attend 30, and then Josh Peters, Brent Butler, Ld. 15:58:04 Riker and Lizanne Coker. We're meeting to discuss mitigation measures to try to relieve the backlog in Dcd. 15:58:15 And come up with a solution that they can live with, and then 2 30, the Wc. 15:58:22 Directory candidate presentation. I'd like to be there for that, Kate do we have a childcare? 15:58:29 The Y.M.C.A. Childcare meeting scheduled it to on that day. 15:58:33 Rosetta. Every Wednesday, every Wednesday. 15:58:36 Okay. Will you attend that? Yup? Okay, thank you. Then on Thursday, Jeff come admin board meeting, and then at noon the second Wc. 15:58:53 Director candidate, presentation weekly check in with Chris Coy agenda planning with Greg at 1 30, and then on Friday, Wc. 15:59:03 Extension, director, presentation number 3, and then nothing else scheduled that day. 15:59:09 And so I can work on fairgrounds, agreement, and the number of other agreements, namely, the transition documents for Jefferson County Historical Society and Tcc. 15:59:24 As they take over, management of the gateway Visitor Center. 15:59:28 So that's my week. Sounds good. Couple notes from our clerk. 15:59:34 One is to just be clear that we have rescheduled the Usda public meeting to May third, 2023, at 6 30 Pm. 15:59:44 And that is a hybrid meeting, I assume, and we'll be in here. 15:59:49 Yup, and there will be childcare about the childcare project. 15:59:52 It's like May third Yup, 6, 30 p. Here, and that meeting is. 15:59:58 It's a required meeting for the Federal appropriation. 16:00:01 We're getting through Usda for the childcare center. 16:00:05 The next night is also a healthier together aquatic center meeting at Fort Warden, 6 pm. 16:00:19 Right, and then also on Wednesday, May seventeenth, at 1030, a. 16:00:24 M. There's a tentative meeting about the Cdbg. 16:00:27 Or early learning, facility, hearing and staff is wondering if we're all clear for that 1030 special meeting to run, that hearing on this same, I guess that's also for the Y.M.C.A. 16:00:41 Yeah, that's that's of course, Carolyn's right on it. 16:00:50 So you know, we're still doing the cost, estimating on the childcare center. 16:00:57 But we're anticipating that there might be a budget shortfall just because of the inflationary. 16:01:02 You know we wrote the plan for this facility 2 years ago, and of course it's gotten a lot more expensive. 16:01:08 So in anticipation of a funding gap we're considering applying for Cdbg funds for that gap. 16:01:15 And so Michael and his infinite wasdom has pointed out that we would need to do a hearing in order to apply for that. 16:01:22 So that's the May seventeenth date. I'm not clear on that and we all have to be there for that I'm not sure it's a special meeting, and I, hearing okay, I just have a normal 1030 meeting. 16:01:36 Okay, what? So this is may seventeenth. What time? Okay, if this works for the Commissioners, then Mark will go back to the Yup. 16:01:51 To see if that works for the event. So it's not a set in stone. They're just seen. 16:01:58 If you guys are, 11 would work for me. 1030. I haven't strategic planning. 16:02:05 Yeah. Library. Trustee. Yeah. 16:02:12 I can do it. 16:02:20 How long will that be? 16:02:22 Oh, actually, Michael just texted saying, maybe May 20, ninth would be better, although I will not be here on the 20 ninth. 16:02:33 So! 16:02:37 May 29. Monday, okay? And it's a fifth Monday. That's no. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What are you making me come in on a fifth Monday how about the twenty-seventh? It was a 3 day weekend caroline's yeah. 16:02:52 Carolyn said. The room's not available that day. 16:02:56 It was a 3 day weekend. Carolyn's. 16:02:56 Yeah, Carolyn said. That's a regular meeting. 16:02:57 I'll let Michael know. Yeah, yeah, I'll just roll it into a Monday easy to schedule us on those. 16:03:24 I think he's starting with us, and then we'll run it by them. 16:03:28 Hmm. Yes. Oh, I'm so I thought I was gonna miss a meeting on the 20 ninth. 16:03:35 But I was forgetting we were trying to be with that. 16:03:39 A couple of meetings ago, we were trying to yeah, be flexible in May cause of someone's conflict on the Sunday as well. 16:03:52 I'm gonna be gone. No, I'll be on the 20 ninth. 16:03:56 Oh, no! I do have a I'll be joining virtually, but I do a medical appointment on the I think, the following one, but I was on the eighth. 16:04:03 Yes. Altogether. On the eighth, and then maybe I'm 15 for exploring correct. 16:04:12 But we're not gonna have a meeting on the 20 ninth. 16:04:15 As we were talking about potentially having one on the 20 ninth, right? 16:04:21 Yeah, no, I think it's just stick with it. And I would be gone on the 20 ninth, anyway. 16:04:24 Sorry. Okay. I mean, I could have joined for at least part of that one. 16:04:31 Is that one we're in Oaxaca? No, Edinburgh touring the University of Edinburgh that day. 16:04:38 Oh, wow! Yes! 16:04:41 That's but it might be the morning after the Hairy Styles concert, so hard to fit it all in. 16:04:48 But Harry style sponsor. Yes, I have a saved. 16:04:56 Actually, my daughter is a super fan, so oh, are there like swifties and rupees just swimming watermarks? 16:05:02 I don't know. Yeah, I'll ask my daughter. 16:05:06 She will, she will know. 16:05:10 Okay, so that's we're just we're just chasing it right now, I think that scheduled to hold it. 16:05:18 May 20, s at 10 Am. So. 16:05:26 I like that. 16:05:30 Okay, well, how we're gonna be out early where we can still get out on time, though. 16:05:39 Anything to talk about boards and vacant boards and committees. 16:05:43 I did connect someone with Sophie about noxious weed. 16:05:53 No conservation district looks for looking for, thanks to Tammy for taking care of distrib. 16:05:59 3. 16:06:06 Oh, Housing Fund Board is fully staffed now. We don't need any. 16:06:10 You can update that. Okay? 16:06:14 Staff. It's fully filled. 16:06:28 Solid waste deviceory, huh? 16:06:31 Yeah. Oh, that's more. Okay. 16:06:38 Come on, Heidi, what are you doing I didn't know that I didn't know either. 16:06:45 I don't think no, I didn't know that I reached out to Allen. 16:06:47 He said he was W. On it. Yeah, so I did. Yeah. 16:06:53 The reach out, down? I don't know if you want to help, and then planning commission. 16:06:59 I saw those ads in the paper. I think I have a plan for the district. 16:07:04 3 parks and Rec. Board. I'm gonna get one of these skateboard skate park folks on, and a good idea they kept talking. We should do a full full plan like a master plan for all of the parts stuff after that. 16:07:16 Oh, the pros plan! You should read it before you meet with them. 16:07:20 And this is an organization you can help cross that. 16:07:28 So was Arlene from District 2 or 3 early Alan from District 2. 16:07:32 Okay, that's so. Who else is up for reconsideration? Temporary? 16:07:43 We did like the short. 16:07:46 I think it was Chris Llewellyn. We just yeah. 16:07:51 We did do a short one for and then did we do that for Lona as well? 16:07:53 I think we did it for Lorna and Chris Short. 16:07:57 The interim for the here we go. Here they are, I mean, and so it doesn't. 16:08:12 Is that mean? Step down? We wanna do a thank you. 16:08:16 Letter for the did she step down from the chamber as well? 16:08:23 Oh, I didn't know that! 16:08:26 What other gossip do you have? Alright, Josh, yeah, it's not been public, I think. 16:08:35 Why is where she's headed back, leaving that position, I think leaving town. 16:08:42 Yeah, so shall I do a thank you and bring it back here next week. 16:08:53 So it's like, okay, was he interim appointments? 16:09:05 Cause it's Lorna wasn't reappointed. 16:09:08 Cause those guys are reappointed. 16:09:14 Going to that, have 2023 expiration dates are Kevin and Ld. 16:09:21 We don't have it on this list, but we should put the sales on here, since we just barely have one district 3. 16:09:29 Representative. They need. 16:09:38 May be good to get Wendy to do another social media posts with some of these vacancies I can reach out to her. 16:09:46 Okay, and then we can share it. It's nice to have one can be shared easily. 16:09:55 Hmm! 16:09:59 Planning commission, and then at the chamber of the Chamber. 16:10:06 Okay, well, anything else we want to talk about today. 16:10:13 I'm hungry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If there's nothing else. 16:10:22 Pregnant pause, I will adjourn this. April 20. 16:10:25 Fourth meeting of the Board of County Commissioners. We will see you guys here next week have a great day. 16:10:30 Thank you.