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HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:00:00 Here's works because you're, all sorts of issues. 09:00:11 Okay. 09:00:15 Hmm. 09:00:19 Okay, sorry. 09:00:25 . But recording it progress Yeah. I guess because we were thinking you weren't gonna be there. Alright, I still don't, but now I, Oh yeah. 09:00:47 Hi, we're just made for me. Barbie with teenage girls. Perfect. Yes, we're in a rainy summer day. 09:01:01 You don't have to wear pink. I think it's Oppenheimer you're supposed to work. 09:01:05 Alright, good morning everyone. I will call this meeting of the Board of County Commissioners to order on July 20 fourth. 09:01:14 Good morning, everyone. We've got a heavy consent agenda, but light agenda other than that. Hope to be we had some travel plans that were canceled, but not a lot on the agenda. 09:01:25 As we always do, we will start with public comments. We have no one in the chambers with us, but if there's anyone online that would like to make public comment on any topic we would love to hear from you. 09:01:36 You can hit. Raise hand or star 9 if you were. 09:01:42 If you're on the phone and we'll bring you over for public comment. 09:01:49 What is? Raise your hand. Or star 9 to make public comments. 09:01:59 Okay, I've seen no one. We will keep public comment open until 9 30, but we can. 09:02:04 Take a look at our 18. Item consent agenda. I actually can't, Okay. 09:02:20 Any questions or comments? 09:02:23 . One 09:02:27 No, that seems fairly defacto a lot of, you know, continuation of existing programs. Always making changes to our consolidated contract with them. 09:02:40 Department of Health or Public Health Services. 09:02:47 Good. Sorry to hear. Some members from. 09:02:51 Resignations from our solid waste facility task force, some of our SWAC members left. It's unfortunate. 09:02:57 Are they just leaving the test force? Just the task force, yes. Okay. 09:03:06 And we see that's one of the items. Got a little high centered on the, the new. 09:03:12 Swack member who's now being added to the task force, but Stephen. 09:03:18 Chappy is now we'll take one of those spots. Hmm, okay, so like Lisa Crossby will still be on Swack, just not on the task force. 09:03:31 Correct. They would twist her arm. Hmm. Yeah, good stuff. 09:03:40 Lots of. Mostly money coming in. Of course the Number one, maybe just call it out a little bit, you know, getting a dead capacity for the sewer. 09:03:50 You want to jump into that a little bit much? And my computer is still in restart mode. I don't know if Stacy Preda or Treasurer is an attendee. 09:03:58 I spoke with her this morning about that and and invited her to speak to the board. If this was brought up. 09:04:08 Essentially what we're doing is going for a line of credit which is a short-term borrowing instrument. 09:04:16 To help provide liquidity for public works as they build the sewer. And they have a number of large road fund projects as well. 09:04:24 And So the line of credit could be used for either. Road projects or the sewer. And essentially, we draw on the line of credit, we pay our contractors, and then we submit grant reimbursements. 09:04:42 We get reimbursed. We use the reimbursement monies to repay the line of credit. 09:04:44 And so we incur a little bit of interest expense. But. Without a line of credit, paying our contractors in a timely way, which we have an obligation to do would be difficult if not impossible. 09:04:57 And I'll remind the board that we also, I think last week transferred the 1 million in general fund money that was in the capital fund to the sewer fund. 09:05:07 For liquidity as well. Anticipating that that general fund money at the project's end will come back. 09:05:15 To the capital fund and can be used for general fund needs should we need those monies. So. So thanks to, to Stacey for doing that work. 09:05:27 Great, and I see Stacy with us. I don't know. How'd Mark do Stacey, anything to add? 09:05:31 He did excellently. I really only need that. Anything if you have other questions just We did work with DA David sending the past on a couple of refunding and. 09:05:43 You know, he'll send this out to 2030 different banks, to see if we can get a private placement loan, which would be the preference. 09:05:52 With hopefully the best rate we can get in the terms. And this is how we do it. 09:06:00 Right. Good question, Greg. Probably for you, Stacy. I've never. 09:06:07 Dealt with a line of credit in public sector. You just described the process or maybe Mark kind of what is the general accounting practice for how that gets requested, where it gets approved, how does it move through our system so there are a number of eyes on it. 09:06:23 In terms of Oh, go ahead, Steve. 09:06:22 So. Oh good. So I mean, one of the most recent projects was the, the ports bulkhead project. 09:06:35 At Hudson Point. They did that as a line of credit and so they will pay bills and they will receive funds from. 09:06:47 The bank they requested and we get the money wired to us we book it and we enter the dead information and depending on how public works is paying it back or you know has others. 09:07:03 Expenditures to make. When they get money from the feds on. The grants that are paying for this. 09:07:13 They will continue to either pay you know, bills or Just keep some of the outstanding line of credit. 09:07:24 You know, accruing interest. Just like you would at home if you had more on that project to do, but really try to limit this to what the cash flow is needed. 09:07:34 And so it does get all booked and it will be in our. Our debt, reporting with the finance report finance committee. 09:07:43 So it's booked as debt, but they have the budget authority. Public work has the budget authority for it. 09:07:50 They have the expenditure authority and so they, 09:07:57 Well, loan activity is different. 09:07:59 Yeah, it's a whole another layer, but yes, I mean, If you have budget authority doesn't mean you have the cash just like the other enterprise funds, you know, they could have budget but they can't spend it all in January. 09:08:13 So. It's just cash flow. Not budget. 09:08:21 Okay, I think I get it. Thank you. And it sounds like the transparency piece comes up by the finance committee, correct? 09:08:30 Their review of the. That reports. 09:08:36 Well, the finance committee, you know, needs to be aware that that is being issued, but it is the boards. 09:08:44 Authority to is the only one that can issue death. I'm sorry. Oh gosh, please don't. 09:08:54 I did. 09:08:51 Yeah. And then the public's opportunity to get an update on this stuff. It would be most, accessible through the It seems like. 09:09:04 Yeah. 09:09:03 Yeah, on how much is outstanding, correct? And that's a monthly report. 09:09:08 Okay, that's. Thought that was part of Kate's conversation. Yes, thank you. 09:09:13 Oh, thank you for making that clear to me. I'm sorry I didn't catch that. 09:09:17 Correct, Kate. 09:09:19 That's okay. I think I think I get it. Just a new way of wrapping my head around that this budget piece. 09:09:25 I had maybe not a question, but number 6 that just the general terms and conditions it seemed like the most bureaucratic of bureaucratic things. There's no actual thing. 09:09:35 We're just going to add one additional level of bureaucracy now. It's a standard agreement. 09:09:40 I think every 6 years, you have to ink disagreement. I think public health. 09:09:45 So let me also say that came from us. 09:09:48 Oh. 09:09:50 The one page contract that was from DA Davidson was very straightforward and clear and then, our prosecuting attorney, civil. 09:10:02 Put it in our standard format, which we absolutely want to make sure we comply with auditor and all types of requirements, but definitely it's that's from us not from them. 09:10:19 Sorry, I can leave then, huh? 09:10:15 Thanks, Stacy. But I was talking about a different, a different item. I was talking about number 6 on the We're done with questions for you. 09:10:24 Thank you. Sorry, I'll stop butting in. Thanks. 09:10:24 But thank you very much. And then. Public health has a similar agreement that they execute. It's just for public health, but then we have to do one for the entire county. 09:10:38 Okay. Some of you may not see this again depending on whether you run for the election. I'm sure they feel very free to change the general terms and conditions on any particular contract that we go through too. 09:10:54 I'm sure they feel very free to change the general terms and conditions on any particular contract that we go through too. 09:10:56 Well, it's an interesting, an interesting point about this. So I've been hearing a lot about this contract at WASAC because it the until I was I was nervous when I saw this on here because the other counties have been saying that These have been coming to them with a vaccination requirements in it that anyone's doing business with DSHS, presumably including county governments, would have to have a vaccination requirement. 09:11:16 So I read this last night going, please don't be in there, please don't be in there. 09:11:20 Please don't be in there and it wasn't. So maybe it's been revised. 09:11:24 Yes, yes. And by the time it got to us, the governors. Order, vaccination order for state agencies had been revoked. 09:11:32 I was glad we didn't have to wrestle with that piece of it. It took a while to get to us, which is in our favor. 09:11:39 But in the quantity of funding we receive from DSHS. Yeah. In our favor. But in the quantity of funding we receive from DSHS. 09:11:46 And the quantity of funding we receive from DSHS. Not executing this agreement wouldn't be helpful. Right. 09:11:47 I'm not suggesting that it just. I felt a little bit like Brazil. The movie. Hmm. 09:11:55 Any other questions or comments? 09:11:58 No, good work. I have public health. For usual. I would welcome a motion. 09:12:04 We'll move to approve and adopt the consent agenda as presented. I'll second that. Okay, then moved in seconded. 09:12:12 All in favor of approving and adopting the consent agenda as presented indicate by saying aye. Aye. Aye. 09:12:19 All right. Well, done for the day. Alright, we're still in public comment. Anyone? 09:12:26 Oh, why don't we bring that Miss Cochrane over? 09:12:30 And anyone else that would like to make public comment that's online, feel free to raise your hand, keep it open for another 20 min. 09:12:37 Hello, Julia. Thanks for joining us today. What would you like to share with us? 09:12:44 Good morning. 09:12:42 Hi, good morning. I just wanted to, So yesterday, yes, I went to, I think it was yesterday, may have been Saturday. 09:12:57 I went to the pot look at Caswall Brown that the community build has been putting together. Put together it was really wonderful. 09:13:05 But we would disappointed that all the cap had it invited the residents, the community build that sent them an invitation to post. 09:13:13 They didn't do it. We managed to route up about 12 people, but Some of the people I know when I contacted them, they didn't had no idea this was happening. 09:13:22 They weren't around. And that's sad. So. But otherwise the community build potluck was wonderful or not, it was sort of a potluck. 09:13:33 They did a barbecue. They use the new barbecues and stuff like that and it was it was that was wonderful. 09:13:38 So anyway, that's all I'm sharing right now is just. Trying to get us to include the people that we are doing business about in the things that we are doing. 09:13:51 So have a good day. Yeah. 09:13:51 Yeah. Julian. Did you say it was a regular monthly? 09:14:00 Okay, okay. 09:13:58 No, this wasn't anything regular or monthly. This was put on by the community build as a sort of celebration of all those little buildings that they built. 09:14:06 Yeah, yeah, totally. That is. 09:14:07 Yeah, yeah. And they also built this. Sync. That's about they bought this guy bought the sink that was it's about the same size as he is. 09:14:18 He's like a 6 foot guy and it was just like a 6 foot sink. With a sink in the middle of it. 09:14:23 And, they built a shelter around this sink. And for people to be able to rinse their dishes and stuff like that. 09:14:31 I have concerns. I mean, I have a concern that there's no there used to be a meal a day being brought from the hospital, I believe. 09:14:38 To casual ground for people to eat. And that's not happening anymore. So people don't have access to that. 09:14:47 And, it's not happening because the hospitals renovate in their kitchen, but Aaron's dark is cooking at the fairground. 09:14:55 So he's still cooking the hospital still getting meals and I think that's worth figuring out how Castle Brown can still get at least a meal a day. 09:15:04 Because the only thing they're allowed to cook on there is like barbecue things. Which I wouldn't know what to do with. 09:15:12 And as a vegetarian doesn't really meet my needs particularly. And I've never used one. 09:15:19 So I'm not sure you want me playing around with the propane gizmo. So. 09:15:24 Yeah, it's just. 09:15:28 There needs to be more conversation with the people about what they need. 09:15:34 Thank you, Julia. 09:15:35 Okay, take care. 09:15:37 Thank you. I appreciate your comment, Julia. 09:15:42 Anyone else with us that would like to make public comment? You can click raise hand or star 9 if you're on the phone. 09:15:47 Good to hear from you. While we're waiting. I don't know any other response to Julia's. 09:15:56 I won't weigh in just not having a lot of information. I'm that that particular topic. 09:16:03 But, I am curious. Are there other cooking facilities in the long term plan for Caswall ban? 09:16:12 I can't remember there's I mean certainly the shelter has a kitchen you know that is gonna be built they're trying to bring that They, donated a double wide trailer that's fairly expansive. 09:16:25 I think that would add more kitchen laundry facilities as well. I think there's microwaves in units as well, I believe. 09:16:32 Like RVs and people are talking on our views. Thank you. And then the meals, I mean, it's unfortunate. I will confess. 09:16:46 I wasn't aware of the barbecue too or what have you. So. Do a better job and. 09:16:49 Definitely agree with Julia that including that the folks that are Living there? Common sense. I don't know how it happened or where the disconnect was. 09:17:01 Yeah. And I also know that. That we can. It can be hard to reach. 09:17:08 People to figure out, you know, as we're finding with our community meetings. How do you reach people to let them know something's happening? 09:17:17 So I don't wanna make any assumptions that only kept in. Yeah, always nothing for us without us, right? 09:17:27 I was gonna comment on a written comment we received. We received a couple of notes about the, 09:17:35 The new pool facility and the idea. Public bathroom or shower facilities and I haven't been as close to this as you have Kate. 09:17:45 I'm just wondering in those conversations. It seems like there's a difference of opinion as to whether there's support for public restroom facilities or. 09:17:54 Whether there's not support, a lack of support and you know, what's your take on that part of the conversation? 09:18:03 Yeah, so, I would say there's, not a consensus among the planning group. And but I will say that when every time we look at designs. 09:18:11 And try to think about how to incorporate. A bathroom and shower facility. Instantly a lot of design challenges come up. 09:18:22 And that's in part, you know, safety. You know, in general. When there's children around, you want it to be a supervised environment. 09:18:33 Being able to control who's coming and going is part of that supervised environment which is and the antithesis of having it just be open and available to anyone who wants to use it who might not be willing to. 09:18:46 You know jump through a number of hoops and we know the homeless population there folks who have a hard time doing that. 09:18:53 So. You know, and we've looked at having it kind of accessible on a different side of the building, but you know, certainly the experience of most public agencies is that you need EASON. 09:19:04 Public facilities like that. And so then you, it's a staffing issue. It just, it adds an enormous layer of complexity and expense. 09:19:13 And so there's been, you know, Some folks from the port has said it'd be way easier to have a free standing separate, not try to combine 2 things that don't necessarily go well together. 09:19:28 And of course there are a lot of people including on the committee who say, yeah, but this is a public facility and we know that this is a need in the community. 09:19:34 It's a relatively small expense to build into a very large expense, so why not? So I'd say there's not a consensus at this point. 09:19:43 I believe it's been taken out of the design. And, There's still a lot to be. 09:19:49 Decided. And so the public input is, welcome. This is the right time in the process to providing that. 09:19:57 I think it would be really helpful to get some, maybe examples of, other places that have been able to incorporate that into the design because it's, we have not found a way to do it that does not provide a big challenge for. 09:20:10 Monitoring. Wouldn't that be the consultant's role to look for other examples like where? Yeah, yeah, we could. 09:20:21 You know, I think advocates are sometimes more on the, you know, on the cutting edge of that stuff. 09:20:27 Just feels like so much money. I'm getting so much push back in district too about paying for it. 09:20:32 And the need for public facilities that if we build a facility that's just for people in Port Townsend, we're just gonna people with Port Townsend can afford to go in the pool, you know, it's just, it's just a privilege thing that I. 09:20:48 I have resistance too. I'm not gonna be super excited about. This facility. I don't know if I mean they're gonna have a say in it but I'm getting less and less excited about it as these issues are brought to light. 09:21:03 So whatever we can do to advocate for. The folks who really need to take a shower and the folks who are gonna have to pay for this facility. 09:21:12 I think I would ask our Hope that we can do that going forward. And not just act like it's What's the right? 09:21:22 A favor complete. You know, I'm trying to, Yeah, it's definitely not a theta complete. 09:21:34 There's ton of questions and there's always the chicken and egg of. People want to know exactly what you are presenting to be able to take a position on it. 09:21:43 And then as soon as you do that, then they say, why wasn't there an opportunity for input? 09:21:45 And so heard in that like iterative present something, see what the responses, refine it, present it, see what the response is, you know, it's a call in response to try to get to a something that might be agreeable, but still very much in that process. 09:22:03 I remember being a kid growing up on the fishing boats and every time the fleet would come in from a fishing trip, you know, we'd all go, we go to the ports that had a public pool. 09:22:11 So we could take a shower, you know. Or I remember the last time I went to Alaska and was coming south on my friends fishing boat with them. 09:22:20 We stopped at the ports that had good shower facilities. I mean, it's It's not just, it's not just homeless people, it's not just transient, it's not just people in RVs rolling into town in the summer. 09:22:32 It's there's so many different kinds of needs for public showers that I just hope we can figure out how to make that work in this facility. 09:22:40 I mean, but when you went to those ports, you would. Hey, the entrance fee to the public pool, right? 09:22:46 Yeah, alright, take my roll, roll a quarters, my little, little wallet of quarters up to in quarters in the machine. 09:22:53 I mean. State Park still has quarter showers. A lot of the State parks, Flagler has them. 09:22:59 Baby, you have them over in Scadget Valley. I mean, for Warden. Yeah. 09:23:04 So I mean, it's there's different ways to pay and But anyway, just it's something that I've heard other people in the community concerned about. 09:23:11 Wanted to lift the concern up. I love 3 showers and I, you know, obviously suggesting we put in chat publically accessible showers. 09:23:21 I do fine. I mean. One of our traveling hacks in my family is that if we after a long flight we'll go to the public pool and you know spend a couple hours at the public pool and kind of you know clean up and relax and decompress and I think that's it's great to have an accessible pool. 09:23:37 I'm hoping our. 50 million dollar pool is accessible to all people. 09:23:42 Just the management of showers. I'm usually the showers exit into the pool area, right? 09:23:47 I mean, that's if I was going to design a pool, that's what I would want to do. 09:23:51 So you create this. Dual use of this area if you're creating that all the wet walls and the pools and the showers they go right into here. 09:24:01 And we got to create a separate one just for a different application of showers, I guess. I would wanna make sure the pool. 09:24:08 That happens was cheap enough that people could take advantage of those showers along with the rest of the facilities. 09:24:16 I guess that's probably where I am. Asking our opinion about this right now but It's for getting comments about it. 09:24:22 Yeah. To the VOCC. Here's one from Deborah Peterson today. So. 09:24:27 Anyway, interesting. I mean, yeah, It's I think it's worth considering and having more shower facilities. 09:24:38 It's not gonna be less people coming here in the future. John Morrow sent me a heads up, email about a transportation benefit district in the city. 09:24:53 And where the city council could impose a one-tenth of 1% sales tax go to the voters for up to 3 tens of per cent? 09:25:07 But then, you know, Talking to Matt Stewart. He's looking into, increment for 9 1 one, a sales tax increment. 09:25:18 And there's a bond issue coming from the school district. If not this year, maybe next year and then, you know, we've got the Aquatic Center. 09:25:26 Either a PFP or an an MPD or a combination. So there's a lot of lot of tax pressure building in this community. 09:25:36 And I just don't know when the. The voters are going to be exhausted. And you know, a lot of it's timing. 09:25:44 That's a consideration also. Yeah, Every, it is. This is what we get for not having an income tax in our state where all, you know, the state. 09:25:54 Has to use property tax also to fund. Basic services and you know we still set it right in the middle of the pack terms of states with the tax burden and our county is not even among the highest near the highest in Washington. 09:26:13 We're about middle of the pack in the state of Washington. Obviously there's a lot of difference between each district depending on where they are typically in school bonds payment but and then as a state word. 09:26:23 Squarely halfway. Got number 26 in terms of individual tax burden. So it's, you know, I do, I do push back a little bit on the constant refrain that we are, you know, the most tax burdened place. 09:26:38 Like, actually, no, statistically, we're about halfway and in a state that doesn't have income tax this is this is what we have available. 09:26:51 Challenge. Let's get a state income tax. Wealth tax. 09:26:57 Yeah, that's well, and they did and that actually the revenue generated from that was high enough to change the revenue forecast for the state, which is updated quarterly anyway, but the new one came in last week. 09:27:08 I don't know if you read it, but. You know, between the, cap and invest program and the new capital gains, to wealth tax revenues are you know significantly higher so 09:27:23 Every little bit helps. Yeah. Alright, well I will got 3 min left before 9 30. I'll ask again if anyone with us would like to make public comment. 09:27:33 You can hit raise hand or start 9 if you're on the phone. Have anyone in chambers with us here but Love to hear from you if you have anything to add. 09:27:42 Okay. It's interesting on my zoom screen. I'm seeing a different. Oh, maybe. 09:27:50 Forget it. I get it. Alright. Great. 09:27:54 Well, leave it open for just another couple minutes and maybe we can talk about what else, we'd like to do. 09:28:02 Did Mark and Heidi, do you have another meeting in the AMs? We have an 110'clock meeting with our consultant on the drainage district. 09:28:13 Okay. And are there other issues that folks One to take up to date. Nothing but time. Got calendar and briefing. 09:28:28 I don't think so. No, that's fine. I'd love to chat more just about the recompute program. 09:28:34 I dug into that this weekend a little bit. You know, thinking about. 09:28:40 What local stakeholders and local partners. And. A possible what approaches you guys think. No, no, you've had to enough though, haven't you? 09:28:51 I shouldn't say I've read the whole no. So skimmed it and read the FAQ. 09:28:58 I read it and I did an intensive question and answer with chat block with it this weekend. Very helpful. 09:29:06 My, my proofreader. 09:29:11 And did have you gotten a report out from that meeting went last week? I haven't yet. 09:29:15 No. I heard it went well and there was lot of forward momentum. But might be good to Learn if there were specifics around. 09:29:25 Areas of interest. Yeah, totally. And dug in a little bit to that, the natural resource. 09:29:32 Integrated command. Invasion center. Yeah, I mean. It seems like one of the reasons they were so ready to present about that is because they've been working on this for quite a while. 09:29:43 They were, yeah, they didn't have the beginning of June to buy the consultants. Because they have state funding. They have state funding. 09:29:51 Yeah, 50,000 states and they put in 50 of their own. So I mean that's moving forward. 09:29:54 You know, regardless they're gonna do that. The analysis and data collection. Part of it. Yeah. 09:30:03 And finding how that nests in with other things that might be more relevant. I mean, can you just see a lot of application? 09:30:09 In Jefferson County from. It depends on the. Partners. And apparently the paper mills already engaged with Enric. 09:30:21 I can't remember the other local. Who else has been? Attending those meetings and part of the concern. 09:30:29 Originally was that the Outreach hadn't been very far. For Enric. It was, you know, very clown-based. 09:30:37 So I think they have made an attempt to broaden it to include more Jefferson County folks. Early stages of that still. 09:30:44 Right. Jefferson County was mentioned once in there are so. And Jefferson. Yeah, I'm not sure. 09:30:54 And then I think in terms of other initiatives. In Jefferson County, they really, you know, I think we really need to see. 09:31:03 Partners can bring to the table. We can be. I agree with the Colleen that it really should be. 09:31:11 Ground up in terms of the kind of what does industry need. What is their kind of appetite for providing it. 09:31:21 So I think. Last week's meeting was the first step in saying, okay, who wants a piece of this? 09:31:27 You know, is. Is the Ready to go and exploring their ideas around Kelp is the school wooden boat building. 09:31:37 Ready to, you know, think about a new program that specifically meets these needs. And That's not, yeah, yeah, there's, I mean, there's so much. 09:31:47 Latitude within that grant program to be able to do something cool but that means you know really creating having a vision and the right. 09:31:54 Partners at the table who are ready to go on something and that's I think that's gonna be the challenge if we can. 09:32:01 Around. The right idea that gets. So right partners willing to. Invest and it's a lot of effort and a lot of uncertainty is whether it will ultimately get some dead. 09:32:17 So it'd be good to reach out to Betsy at the both school because I know she's had a number of conversations. 09:32:21 But the land trust about using wood from Chemica Bridge for certain applications at the both schools. So. 09:32:26 Just finding out what other conversations he's had. Cause I know there's more than just that one. 09:32:33 And she's on the executive committee of NODC, so she's been following this really closely. 09:32:39 She's been following this really closely. It has expressed an interest in it, but you know. It's still in that kind of. 09:32:42 Like wait and see. Yeah, there was Enter DC was less willing to put a lot of work in before the NOFO came out and that was just a few weeks ago. 09:32:54 And so that's, you know, I think that's why we're further behind the ball then. 09:32:58 You see was because they had funding for the project anyway. 09:33:04 So yeah, I think the. I'm not sure what the next steps were coming out of the meeting last week and then obviously the test force. 09:33:15 Provide some more structure. Yes, I just It's hard to get industries to lead what we need to do on this. 09:33:27 Is just kind of antithetical. It seems like. To ask. Yeah. 09:33:33 You know, the pioneers in the industry. Basically, to come into a government bureaucracy to make that work seems. 09:33:42 Squishy to me, I guess. And I'm wondering. 09:33:48 Wow, just infrastructure. I mean, because that's what we understand and what they understand. Industry in general. 09:33:57 And it's clearly covered by. The recompute program. I mean, I assume that the, program, what they're really going to need is ultimately 09:34:10 I guess. I mean, I don't know what else that we can build that can, we can't, you know, give money to the Windows school. 09:34:17 We can't give money to, you know, a particular to the paper now. That's explicitly. 09:34:21 Okay, right. Yeah. And this is always the tension in economic development is how do you use, you know, publicly funded economic development, how do you use public funds in a way that isn't gifting. 09:34:36 And yet. You know, the private sector exist to make a profit and. So I think infrastructure is great. 09:34:45 I think that there's, I think that alone would not be competitive. I do think training programs is probably a sweet spot and just having the colleges on board and you know and that's where industry can really help inform like This is this is the kind of training. 09:35:04 This is the these are the skills we need. Training or there's probably some infrastructure, you know. 09:35:10 The the CITC, does that stand for carbon so the carbon recycling training center CRTC, CRTC, Cycling Training Center and Portangelist is an example of that where the EDA funded the infrastructure building this facility. 09:35:28 Funding the college to do training. Industry put money into it as well. And so they, you know, they have a facility and a training program then for people to be working, you know. 09:35:41 In a new and innovative field. Training is Is the biggest area right now? To workforce age 25 to 49. 09:35:51 54, whatever it is. I mean, I think there's definitely a a disconnect between the skills that are needed here. 09:36:01 On the peninsula and the for higher paying jobs for living wage jobs. And the workforce that we have. 09:36:09 The trouble is and what we're learning is that folks can't afford to upscale because they're working so hard just to pay for basic needs like housing. 09:36:20 And so would they take advantage of opportunities? You know, and basically there's been so much. 09:36:27 Tuition forgiveness and support the last few years because of COVID funding. And that it's basically been free to attend. 09:36:37 Lot of different community college level programs and people haven't been taking advantage but We, the anecdotal evidence points to the fact that it's just to people can't afford to be retraining while working to pay the rent. 09:36:52 Not often they can't live where they're working so they're you know already driving an hour you know so you add something else in that. 09:37:09 You know, this some question Karen talked about last week about whether you know how to paper. Hub support housing. 09:37:15 Costs. I mean, I think housing was kind of part of the application but when I read through it and my friend chat GPT as well there's a lot of opportunity I think. 09:37:28 To make, I mean, housing is the biggest barrier, you know, there's like a definitional disconnect between. 09:37:35 You know, this is not supposed to be funds to address. Demographic reality, I think is what they said. 09:37:42 So if you have specific example that they. Don't want to find with this is 09:37:49 You know, if you are in an area that has a lot of early retirees. So they're out of their workforce because of that. 09:37:57 And that's not a barrier, but you know, lack of wrap around services is a barrier. And we know that housing, I mean, I would, I would argue pretty. 09:38:07 Declaratively that housing is the biggest barrier to our workforce, bar none. I mean, you know, When I talk to the EDC, they say the same thing, you know, expanding the industrial capacity without more housing. 09:38:19 Is not gonna solve the problem, it's going to exacerbate the problem. So I guess I feel like acknowledging that in any application. 09:38:29 I was thinking of, I made a new word. Did you make the word? I made the word. I made the word. I made the word. I made the word. 09:38:44 I did some research on it afterwards, but. Permit structure, which is. From a culture and infrastructure. 09:38:48 This is sustainable infrastructure. And sustainable infrastructure, housing capacity and where the potential for housing capacity. I guess when I look around. 09:38:58 Jefferson County as if we want to really make economic development. It's working in our Lambert as we've already started doing, right? 09:39:06 Brennan and quilting and the urban growth area in Chemicum and Tri area. 09:39:13 Glen Cove. And creating more housing capacity. And I would say if those things could be fit into. 09:39:20 An application with Jefferson County, over Plound County about. Infrastructure and then you can it's easy to make just a kind of a blanket to tie them together with a thesis. 09:39:32 But I mean. I don't know. I feel it gets really squishing when we're talking about. 09:39:39 Training to do these jobs, you know. Will exist even if there's no houses you need to put. 09:39:46 There's no time to do the training because you're working your job. And when I've talked to small businesses, they're often very willing to do training. 09:39:56 And when I've talked to small businesses, they're often very willing to do training. Like the training is, you know, even we know with transit. 09:39:59 They're happy to pay for your CDL right now, for free. Public works. Public works will pay for your. 09:40:05 So like training is a shadow of the barrier that happens. 09:40:10 Yeah, no, it's something I would love to see, which I've heard the port talk about for some time now too is. 09:40:16 Doing more mixed use developments. For, with works faces. Yeah. 09:40:23 I think that would be, that's something I was. Things we worry about in the middle of the night. 09:40:29 I was up in the middle of the night thinking about how to, you know, what exactly our kind of legislative ask is going to be around Lambard flexibility. 09:40:37 And, and that. It's actually especially around multi-family or more dense. Housing types is gonna be a real challenge to get that allowed in Lammers, but if you could tie it to, you know, where the glamorous the transit is serving or you know very specific like try to meet other criteria with it or where you're creating jobs. 09:40:59 Yeah, exactly. So I think that could be one way to. We call that, a lot. Oh, good. 09:41:07 Good. But also to, create kind of a, an interesting, a compelling housing story as if we're, looking at new. 09:41:16 Building types and land use types here that do a combined work live. Situation reports than wanting to do that potentially they were talking about buying one of the hotels down there Yeah, I think the ports work and agriculture as well. 09:41:34 I mean, that's kind of all of a sudden moved into. Traditionally private industry. That moved into a public sphere for support. 09:41:42 And that's why ports got into the port business in the first place, right? It was because the priorization of port was, creating barriers and you know, creating a lot of inequity. 09:41:52 So, drove by Viva Farms in Skagat Valley twice on Saturday and they are still growing. 09:42:00 More acres are in production. Right, they're along Highway 20, so. Super inspiring. 09:42:05 How much on port property. Sorry. Small plots of acreage to. You know, new farmers so they can get. 09:42:16 Get a business plan going. Yeah. Love it. And you know, we talked about, food hubs as well, you know, I think from COVID for that, you know. 09:42:26 Resilience and being able to. Great our calories. I'm gonna come to the solid waste task force and make a comment about looking at it as part of that capital facility planning for. 09:42:39 Okay. Yeah, I think the challenge with egg and food production in terms of recompete will be the. 09:42:47 The wages don't support. The wages are lower than what recompute is hoping. You know, you have to rely on the data that we have, which is that. 09:42:58 And through manufacturing wages are typically very low. Not made their criteria for. Right. The type of jobs develop that, you know, again, we have to make the case that we want to do something innovative and. 09:43:14 That we can challenge that assumption that. I mean Growth is just is not. Just, absolute good, right? 09:43:25 I mean, sustainable growth is a different thing. Growing the way that we're growing responsibly in the way that our population wants to grow. 09:43:37 That's what I'm going to. Yeah, I mean, and it's having worked with and been funded by the EDA for. 09:43:46 I don't know, 7 years or something, right before getting elected was, I'm just so aware of the limitations of their. 09:43:53 Definitions around pretty much everything. And, so, you know, I get, we get to push the envelope a little bit. 09:44:01 This is a much more flexible funding program than they've ever had. But, It's, yeah, we've always been really tied to their metrics. 09:44:11 For things like. Wages and you know and that carries over into the workforce development realm too where you know funding can only be used in the industries that are both. 09:44:22 Growing in demand and have sustainable wages. So it's It's a challenge, but Aaron, Berg at the port would probably be another good person to call. 09:44:34 Going into these meetings. I know you've been thinking about this stuff too. Yeah. And he's also on the executive board of NODC. 09:44:43 So,'s all about what they've done up there. Yeah, they both had good ideas. 09:44:50 We had Betsy. So. I hope they will be engaged. I assume they sent folks to the meeting last week. 09:44:56 Okay. Cool, well thanks for letting, thinking through that stuff with me. I'm a structure. Construction. 09:45:05 You got that's great. Yeah. 09:45:09 Yeah. Alright. Well, and I would keep in mind that the, like, I mean, you brought it up, you are the, Lambered flexibility. 09:45:21 So again, the middle of the night. Stressors was like. You know. How do we address? 09:45:29 Waste water treatment if we're asking for flexibility and language, knowing what you know, what the red flags are for future wise. 09:45:37 So sprawl and Waste water and probably drinking water supply, which is less of a issue because we do some public water available at our lamards but I think most of 09:45:52 Yeah, yeah, II would assume, but I, Can't say that with the same certainty. 09:45:59 But, you know, so in terms of infrastructure, are there. You know. So for waste water would say putting in large onset septics losses in our lambers, would that be more of a red flag for GMA violations, the risk of GMA violations, or is that actually, you know, responsibly solving a concern. 09:46:28 So, yeah, yeah. I don't remember. First thing, Senator Short. She's from these side. 09:46:35 But she's from these side. But she's, she introduced. That's Roger's way over. 09:46:42 Sally Short. Sally, yep, that's silly. She introduced a couple of those Lammered. 09:46:47 Pieces of legislation. She may have had conversations with other communities and about, flexibility. That would be helpful. 09:46:56 Yeah, yeah, no, they've been going on for years and that was the first one. That, 52 75 was the first one that was. 09:47:04 Really successful in any substantive way. And I think it provides a little bit of latitude for us, but. 09:47:11 Still doesn't do much for. Density of housing, still really tied to that. Zoning. Thanks to Looking like it's gonna be roadie drive. 09:47:28 And, is not, is outside of the EGA. We're Goes up, not the road, but not to Gen in the Iron Dale. 09:47:36 I'm just wondering, I mean, that would be an opportunity that adds. Most of that is residential. 09:47:43 With some commercial. I mean, does it get that? Just wondering if that is something that we could, look at. 09:47:53 A piece. I think something to check in with Monty about. Yeah, I know the concern is that. 09:48:02 Any if we include any land use that opens up the project to being challenged as stopping construction, which then funding. 09:48:14 Yes, then the funding disappears. We can't meet that deadline. So, well, they're not this. Change of funding, right? 09:48:19 This. Chunk of funding is all allocated to that one. There's one, right? Phase one yeah so the phase like if we're doing looking into phase 2 it would be a different thing I think it wouldn't necessarily Gotcha. 09:48:36 Yeah, really starting the conversation about what these 2 gonna look like. I mean, I think that's already. 09:48:41 That be at Josh and Monty Conversations. Where's phase 2 planning at? Although I still think that where that phase one is where. 09:48:51 We would wanna really think about. Especially yeah commercial and manufacturing and light industrial zoning. Putting that in residential is not, that's not what we're. 09:49:03 I don't think that's our goal. So. Hmm. 09:49:10 Alright, food for thought. Well, I will turn back and make one last call if anyone has public comments. 09:49:17 We've got a little bit of latitude today. Entertain it. And people are like the last topic. 09:49:27 I know, I know. It's literally keeping me up at night. Alright, well I will close public comment now. 09:49:33 And I guess we can. I mean, just are we hoping to just stop at 11 then you guys Mark and Heidi have a meeting at 11. 09:49:42 More sooner if we get through calendaring and Alright, well that'll be our plan. Let's, get on with it. 09:49:50 We would like to start looking back. Like I'm happy to start. 09:49:59 Last Monday was here with you guys. 09:50:03 Went out and check the crab pots after that. Our engine died, we got rescued, it was an exciting day at Crab Camp, but. 09:50:12 We were close to the shore and rescue was close as well, so it wasn't we weren't. 09:50:18 Our hair was not on fire, but it was still. Friends you could call to come here. Oh yeah. 09:50:25 Friends in the right places and the marina closest to us. 09:50:31 And then I had a meeting. Tuesday morning with Sarah Ogden from DNR to talk about. 09:50:40 Upcoming meetings with us with our full board about our letter that we sent back to Hillary France commissioner frans and how to. 09:50:53 What's the right kind of what team from DNR do we need to be part of that meeting? 09:50:59 So she's going back to talk with Dwayne and it's about it and They will work too. 09:51:03 They're not looking to meet with us. As a full board until like September or October. Because everyone at DNR is taking vacations in the summer and anyway just to get everyone's calendars aligned it looks like. 09:51:15 September October so stay tuned for that. Hey, Heidi Kandar for just a second ask. 09:51:21 Can you in a nutshell describe the difference between what the King County Council asked of DNR. 09:51:28 And what. We have asked for in the past, not so much in this most recent letter, but the Yeah, there you read their letter. 09:51:37 That was about one timber sale, wasn't it? Yeah, but and but more specifically about the legacy forests. 09:51:44 A few counties have sent DNR letters about the legacy forest issue. And didn't we early on wasn't that one of our first Yeah, and many of the tracks. 09:51:55 Of land in our specific letter back to commissioner friends were What people call like a sea forest older forest older structurally complex forests and also. 09:52:07 In our letter back to Commissioner Franz, we also called out the need to identify as part of the 2,000 acres. 09:52:14 The legislature allowed for in the 83 million dollar budget proviso We called out the need to identify tracks of land that we could. 09:52:24 Secure protection for using that funding, but we did not. Put specific timber sales or tracks in our letter. 09:52:32 So it's I feel like, the King County letter is a subset of what we've been. 09:52:38 Discussing with DNR? Okay. But we've had more kind of robust conversations with the region about areas to look for replacement lands and to work with rainier timber so that Replacement lands that are purchased support other kind of landscape level. 09:52:57 Protection that has been going on in the community so around dabba bay and other areas So when we've gotten I'm assuming we've all gotten them letters saying like. 09:53:10 You know, we want you to do it. King County did. I kinda wanted to respond and say, I think we did. 09:53:16 I need some confirmation. You know, maybe a little different thrust, but I don't know how, people feel like what can, people feel like what King County has done is different. 09:53:28 I mean, I can look at that letter more. With the more of a fine tooth comb, but. 09:53:34 King John County joins the fight. Okay. 09:53:38 Can 09:53:42 Like it seemed more general than what we have. Yeah. Or maybe where we started. Further. 09:53:48 Further refined. Most so largely their letters a list of questions. 09:54:00 And they're talking about differing one timber sale. The Wishbone Sale until it can be reconfigured. 09:54:11 Yeah, they're just talking about. This letter from the King County Council to DNR is talking about one timber sale. 09:54:20 So you don't feel like there's some action that we should be taking and support. 09:54:24 Of this. Do we want to send a letter of support of calling the wish phone timber sale in King County. 09:54:34 Yeah. Nope, that letter is specifically about one timber sale. 09:54:45 Make sure I wasn't missing something. 09:54:51 Yeah. Thank you. Sorry to interrupt. Nope. 09:54:54 Let's see, back to the calendar. So we'll have a meeting with DNR. 09:55:00 In the fall. 09:55:08 As kind of related to that, I did get an email from Bob Winslow at DNR last week that they were able to find the funding. 09:55:17 To complete the last. . The one that's been going on since before I was in the center. 09:55:28 Yeah, yeah. So, as you'll remember in the legislative session during the. Yeah, yeah. 09:55:34 So, as you'll remember in the legislative session that during the legislative session during the legislative session that during the legislative session during the legislative session not as part of the legislative session the appraisal the funding, the funding recipe for that. 09:55:40 Trust line transfer became more complicated because the there was some part that had been left out and they needed to find more funding. 09:55:48 And they went back to our CO and there had been funding left from a previous. So There is now enough funding to complete that trust line transfer, which was a big question. 09:56:00 As to whether that could be completed in the time frame that it needs to be. So that one's moving forward as well. 09:56:09 Let's see. And We had our, Jefferson Wednesday afternoon. We had our Jefferson Transit Authority. 09:56:19 Public hearing on the 5 year plan. Tuesday, sorry, Tuesday afternoon and. Nobody testified. 09:56:28 So, anyway, onward. The plan looks good and we had a couple of. Comments for staff from the authority board but Looks good and it's moving forward. 09:56:42 Little bit of a conversation there about the 0 emission. BUS, you know, mandate, forget what specific vehicle it came up about, but do you remember? 09:56:52 Oh, we did. Yeah. You know, but we just kinda confirm that that's our desire. 09:57:01 To move in that direction. So. Oh, I think we just Revise some language. 09:57:08 They have some language. Because it's a 5 year ongoing plan. It was a little bit more conservative, I think. 09:57:14 Yeah. In the evening on Tuesday, I went to an MRC gathering at Sarah Fiskins house. 09:57:24 Dreamy. Okay, just saying, just saying that loud, that was one of the most dreamy places I've ever been. 09:57:29 And Jefferson County. Oh, I miss. I'm just being in the MRC for that reason. 09:57:36 And Milo loved it. He swam and swam and swam. Wednesday morning I did a walk and talk with Aaron Berg in the port, talked about the drainage district and. 09:57:47 Other port collaborative issues. Always love walking around. Okay, I think it's my future. 09:57:58 My future will be in the port after I leave commissioner life. Somehow. Jefferson count. And then we had our strategic planning check in at 1030 with our consultants. 09:58:12 And that is moving ahead well as you all know. And then we had our community outreach meeting to Wednesday. 09:58:20 Evening in Chimacom and again it was very lightly attended by members of the public. And I don't know, since this is my first round of these I've done and I've used to be an outreach person. 09:58:32 That was my professional pass. I'm like, what is going on? We did tons more outreach for this one than we did for the previous one. 09:58:39 You're next door. And then somebody said, well, you didn't use disc or your discord channel. 09:58:46 And I'm like, oh. I'm sorry, I forgot that one, but it was just this thing of like, no, I mean, I, that's how I communicate with farmers in Chima. 09:58:57 Share things with him and I forgot to put it there. So. Yeah, yeah. So anyway. 09:59:05 I, you know, I just said maybe it's the, maybe it's the season, maybe it's not a summer thing that we don't do these in the summer because I remember doing events. 09:59:13 For the land trust and for the maritime center and. I mean, that was the Lantra's event. 09:59:24 I'm gonna get that. I was not invited. So I don't know how it was. 09:59:29 Must have been nice. Let's see. Then Thursday. We had our board health meeting in the afternoon. 09:59:40 And my eldest goddaughter turned 14 which oh my god What happened those years? So yeah, that was. 09:59:48 That was a big day for me. In my life. And then Friday morning I went to WSU and participated in interviews for our next 4 H coordinator. 10:00:00 Unfortunately, I think I've said this out loud a number of times but Therap Peterson who we were all really excited about who we just hired like 8 months ago. 10:00:06 And her husband got a job in Maine and they left our side of the country and went to the other side so we lost Sarah. 10:00:12 And we had 2 great, applicants and so made it made a decision on one to offer to and that. 10:00:20 We'll see how that goes. And then right after that, I got a call from DNR about maybe a need to have an emergency declaration about a boat that was sinking in Maths Bs Bay. 10:00:32 And, you know, remember last time that happened underneath the Indian Island Bridge. We had some time. 10:00:41 Took us a couple of weeks to get that boat out of the water. This one was like, maybe we have to get it out today. 10:00:44 I'm like, I don't know how I declare an emergency on Friday. I need, I guess I would have need to call one of you. 10:00:58 And on Friday, I swear. So I wanted to talk through that. I mean, if there is a need to call, do we just the road on the west end. 10:01:04 Notice. Notice it's suspended. We need 24 h. Yeah. 10:01:11 Okay, so I put a call. So that was my thing. Yeah. Okay, so I get a call. So that was my thing. 10:01:13 After they call, I'm like, okay, I guess I call. I call, I call a Kate or Greg, or, or, care's out with Caroline. 10:01:20 Yeah. But, But they told me to hold off and so I went but I'm I went down there because being So the kind of person who likes to see the things that I'm being asked to. 10:01:30 So I drove down there and sure enough, you know, there's a big oily sheen. 10:01:35 I'm half of mass mass bay and a boat sunk in the water. And Coastguard and Department of Ecology were there and so they were working with global diving and salvage to get the oil and gas out of the boat before it all escaped into the bay and they were able to get. 10:01:55 The rest of the oil and gas out of the boat. So I got an update from. DNR this morning that it's no longer an emergency situation, but unfortunately. 10:02:04 For the marine environment, a lot of gas and oil did get in the bay in Mass. 10:02:13 And then. Friday after that that was afternoon and then I think That was it. Let's see, did anything happen on the weekend? 10:02:27 I need to tell you guys about. 10:02:31 Nope. Went to Edison and did see the Growing Viva Farms, which always makes me smile. 10:02:40 But No crabbing this last weekend. Yeah, that's it. Do we want, do you want to look? Go ahead, keep going. 10:02:50 Okay. So this week. Here with you this morning. 10:02:56 Mark and I have a meeting at 11 about the with our consultants peak sustainability about the conversations we're having. 10:03:03 About the a legacy drainage district in Temacom and how to. And move forward with that. 10:03:10 As you'll remember, we all received, I think we all received the letter from Auditor Huntingford about the need to have a hearing by September first. 10:03:19 About inactivity of the drainage district. And, so we're trying to figure out with a group of stakeholders what. 10:03:27 Our request will be at that hearing. We're making progress, so. And I have a Jefferson Transit Authority board agenda prep meeting with. 10:03:39 Councilmember Thomas and. Nicole. And then I think I told you already that I just got invited to go to the Barbie movie tonight with my goddaughter. 10:03:51 So I'm super excited about that. I never get invited to fund things like that. I'm super excited about that. 10:03:56 I never get invited to fund things like that on having kids. So I know I can't wait to get to you and hear about the Swift world, but. 10:04:01 I live vicariously through you people with kids. So I'm super excited to go to the Barbie movie. 10:04:08 Tomorrow we're in interviewing for the next grants administrator. In the morning and then I have a community foundation boardman meeting the middle of the day and then I'm gonna go. 10:04:19 Stay here and do the naloxone training. In the afternoon. Wednesday we have budget committee. 10:04:27 Are you doing the full one or the short one? Sure 10 good. We didn't talk about that. 10:04:32 Cause I wanted to do it too, but we're in different ones. Okay, and it's actually not county business. 10:04:40 Wednesday morning we have budget committee. And then we have our strategic planning check in. Later in the morning and then we have a special LTAC meeting to review. 10:04:54 Available funding and set the schedule for this year's LTAC. Grants. And we have a couple of other special considerations for that. 10:05:02 Meeting. And then I'm going to go for lunch to chima come. How was the group of constituents? 10:05:13 And then I'm planning on going to that Democrats picnic at HJ Carroll Park Wednesday evening. 10:05:20 I think it's a 5. Trying to get a times. Down for the drainage, the next drainage district stakeholder meeting that might be happen on Thursday. 10:05:33 It might not. 10:05:34 And then I might be going to this Seattle Art Fair Thursday Friday. Bikes work's been included kind of last minute. 10:05:43 And. If I do that, I'll call in to this. Solid waste task force meaning to make my comment about. 10:05:52 The potential for a food hub. At the. Next facility. 10:05:59 Also be a special meeting of the OCC, of course. Yeah. 10:06:04 And then this coming weekend unfortunately I have to help with the memorial for a friend who passed and Cooking some fish. 10:06:12 So. That'll be nice to gather with people and remember him. So. Yeah, that's the next week. 10:06:21 Alright, you wanna sure back and forward? Yeah, last week had a short work week because I was Fred Hutch with my husband for a couple days, Tuesday and Wednesday. 10:06:34 Did get back for the community outreach meeting and yeah, Just love to find ways to get more folks come into those and. 10:06:45 Maybe we can. Task Wendy with, you know, kind of doing some research on how other governments are changing their outreach, you know, just seems like our old. 10:06:55 Channels aren't working. Is there is there a new way that we're not? Finding to reach folks. 10:07:02 Do you think it's potentially just to this kind of post COVID? People not used to meeting in person again or you know and and then the other thing that people have been said to me is because you guys are doing a good job, but I know people reach out to me with things they think we're not doing a good job about. 10:07:16 So I know there's people out there. Yeah, yeah, I know. I mean, there isn't a big controversy right exactly. 10:07:23 We had the commercial shooting range going on. There were a lot of people in the community. We had the commercial shooting range going on. There were a lot of people in the community. 10:07:28 I think. Yeah. Oh, more controversy in the city at the moment. Yeah, but like even, I mean, they're in the intervening months. 10:07:39 Even before I took office, there was a lot of folks who were concerned about the Port Hadlock. 10:07:48 The chima come outreach meeting, right? Throw some of them out, but. 10:07:54 So. Thursday. 10:08:03 Board of Health meeting and. We really have, we didn't take any action, at port of health meeting. 10:08:16 Yeah, That's right, we have a few applicants for. One vacant position which we'll be deciding on next month. 10:08:22 Or at least interviewing next month. Friday I had an Olympic consortium board meeting. 10:08:29 That's the oversight for Olympic workforce development. And they are starting a strategic planning process for the whole Workforce Development Council. 10:08:39 So, Stay tuned, I'll try and bring back the updates on that. 5 or 6 year plan on efforts around workforce development that I keep reminding them really needs to be aligned with. 10:08:50 There are recompute efforts. And 2 staff people from Olympic workforce were at the meeting last week so so far they're getting the message that those need to be aligned. 10:09:02 We had the county coordination meeting which we all attended and various configurations. And. 10:09:13 What to report out there. Mostly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not successful. Collected bargaining. 10:09:26 But always nice to, I'm prompt. Yes, yes, yeah, that was the main feedback. 10:09:31 Mark was how, how prompt the finishing collective bargaining was. Before the contract was over rather than a year after the contract was. 10:09:43 Yes, yeah. Apartments. Departments really appreciated. That. 10:09:49 Then went over to Public Works and had a good update on the sewer project. So, you know, really appreciate everything public works is doing and, look forward to digging in on the sewer ordinance. 10:10:03 So come before us this fall and winter. 10:10:07 Saturday, Taylor shift concert, of course. It was interesting that, there were 72,000 people there, largest events ever. 10:10:18 But I was thinking that's 2. 2 Jefferson counties. Population of 2 Jefferson counties. And It was such a love fest and I was like, what would it take to get Everybody in Jefferson County all on the same page like just positive and say like loving about one thing. 10:10:41 A memorial field arguing about roundabouts, you know, like I just, I was like, we live in the most beautiful place in the world and why can't we come together like even if it's just once a year. 10:10:49 And so I was I was inspired. And a little dumbfounded that it takes, you know, pop music to bring people together in that way, but, just such a love fest. 10:11:02 Like, people willing to put aside differences and just be. Sharing a moment together and It's rare that humanity is able to do that. 10:11:15 And in our jobs, I think it's it feels even more rare like when we are trying to find consensus. 10:11:20 And provide leadership towards a common goal that it's it's so challenging to do and yet you know, one pop star can come in and do it. 10:11:29 So you're gonna add pop to your replicas? I don't think so, but I do wanna, you know, it's like what are the. 10:11:36 How are the ways that you reach people? And appeal to their best selves to like. You know, show up in a positive way. 10:11:44 I feel like Rody does that the best here. Yeah, yeah. The roadie parade. I mean, that's, this year that was super high point. Yeah. 10:11:53 And that kind of energy. Yeah, yeah. So, do you need to work on May? Lip sync. 10:12:00 For Rhodey Parade. You know, do you know the songs Kate? Tilly Swift songs? 10:12:07 Yeah, I do. Yeah. So having had teenagers for what, you know, 10 years of songs? Yeah. I do. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 10:12:11 So having had teenagers for what, you know, 10 years now, I I've had a lot of Taylor Swift in the background. 10:12:13 So my girls, thank God daughters, my girls. Have a little Bluetooth speaker they bring on the crab boat. 10:12:20 And they always, well, when the end to be able to pick my song for when I'm pulling the pot, and we're like, okay, so it's often Taylor Swift. 10:12:28 And I don't, there's, they're like, pulling their pot and singing and I'm like, I don't know any of these songs. 10:12:35 I am out of it. Yeah, I think Taylor Swift has made it okay to like, pop. 10:12:41 As an adult too, you know? And she is a great. Yeah. Yeah. 10:12:48 And just. Lot of positive messages and, so it was uplifting. Just a little bit of gossip so you can have a little bit of gossip in it still. 10:12:58 Yes, yeah, and of course, you know. Heartbreak and you know, not all. 10:13:05 Not all sunshine. Not, yeah, exactly. The coming week, let's see, I have a phone call with Bridget Greg tomorrow. 10:13:15 Part of. The fair grounds, you know, kind of rebirth is. Trying to. 10:13:24 Be conscious of the relationship with 4 H and the county fair in particular and the fairgrounds in general so we need to give some attention to that. 10:13:37 Well, we do have a new WSU director starting next week. I'm at Sharma will be with us next week. 10:13:44 So I know that there's. Gonna be some transition there and then we'll have a new 4 H coordinator as well. 10:13:49 So just be aware there's transitions in the works and as part of that conversation. Well and I appreciate Greg, Bridget Greg trying to you know, bridge. 10:14:01 Yeah, yeah. So and I look forward. Hey, sorry. Look, I do a short meeting the new director. 10:14:13 Yeah. Then doing the Naloxone training tomorrow. Wednesday. I need to be at Fred Hutch with my husband, so hoping. How do you feel in for me on budget committee meeting again? Taken minutes. 10:14:28 Thank you so much. I should be able to join the housing fund board meeting. I will be able to, I'll be virtual though. 10:14:37 Thursday. We have our Child. It's 2 different childcare meetings. This is a community foundation does one that's that is Wednesday morning. 10:14:50 NODC meeting Wednesday afternoon followed by a fairgrounds meeting in the evening. 10:14:57 Sorry, that was Thursday. Friday. Since the Solid Ways Task Force meeting is being noticed. 10:15:08 As a public meeting I might just wanna sit in and listen in because I've never been able to participate in any of those since I haven't sat on that. 10:15:18 Committee so I will plan to join that. Saturday night is the county fair kickoff dance or doing a dance. 10:15:26 In advance, it's a 10 days or so before fair actually starts, but. Ben Thomas from City Council be leaving some line dancing and it'll be a fun event. 10:15:36 So I encourage folks to come. And so are there 2. Dems events. Okay, that's someone in squim, right? Okay. 10:15:50 And so we're celebrating my mom's birthday, right? Okay. And so we're celebrating my mom's birthday that day, so I'm not gonna be able to join unfortunately this Wednesday night. 10:15:56 Yeah, I'm in Seattle. I don't think I can make it back from Seattle. So I'm sorry to miss both of those. 10:16:02 That's it for me. Alright. Let's see. Last week with you guys of course on Monday and transit as well as the South County harm reduction meeting on Tuesday. 10:16:18 Naloxone, Narcan boxes are going in at the. We'll see in fire department as well as ultimately both the community centers down there and I think the Brandon Fire Department too. 10:16:30 So it's great that's happening. On Wednesday we had a special meeting of the left one board. 10:16:38 And we're going to a complicated reimbursement for someone, but thing that maybe I share is. 10:16:45 We've, suggested that both the city and county pay for airlift and What's the other one? 10:16:56 The other helicopter, early life flight for the members. They get you know, there's only about 12, I think. 10:17:03 Members that were in the earlier. Left and left, which is what firefighters and law enforcement officer are and now. 10:17:11 And you know this one that we are not reimbursing was, $50,000 ambulance drive basically when they get in a helicopter and that happens more often for our seniors. 10:17:21 So. It seems like proactively paying for that at the city. It comes from straight from the general fund for in the city. 10:17:28 How much is it per person for both of those? It's like 1 30 or something per person and some people, like, annually, annually, they're both for for both. 10:17:38 About $70 each. And there's also a program if there are. And Metigap program, which I think is a expansion or something that covers those flights so There might be some numbers that are already covered with the. 10:17:53 But a little a little bit in front just to prevent some some really handless charges and our left one does not cover transportation. 10:18:01 Yeah, according to some of the institutional. Memory. That's a change. 10:18:12 And the went to the anti racist class that I've been participating in. I went to the anti racist class that I've been participating in. 10:18:20 I'm really thought provoking good stuff there. And then I had a ride along with certain Sheriff's Department for a couple hours and. 10:18:28 What? What inspired that? Just I'm curious how all of our different. Systems work. 10:18:37 I wanna do a snow plough right along too, so I've never done a share of stuff anyway. 10:18:41 No, I wanna do it too, but I just wanted what inspired it. Yeah, I, missed the opportunity. 10:18:47 I could have gone with him on the evening of the fourth of July and I couldn't do that one. 10:18:51 That would have been no. But this was still interesting. We had a lot of Good engagement on one call with the navigator so we could see how law enforcement and the navigators work together. 10:19:00 And that was a big question that I had as the efficacy of that. Partnership and Kind of just, I don't know. 10:19:08 Good. And understanding the viable little? There's a lot of nothing to do. I haven't done it since COVID, but. 10:19:15 Yeah, it's the first time I've done. I've been doing it long. I'll do more of it. 10:19:19 But you know, we both did the cares right along. And I wanna go along with the real team as well. 10:19:26 So really just seeing how these different systems. And I want to go along the real team as well. So really just seeing how these different systems. 10:19:29 And then joined you guys at the community outreach meeting at the Trier community center and yeah 2 members of the public and person and 2 online one I later learned was a journalist. 10:19:44 I mean. Maybe I shouldn't have taken the fireworks off the, flyer. 10:19:49 I mean All the district 3 have been well attended so far and I am sure they will continue to be. 10:19:57 So I'm gonna just take it as a competition. And that's because people are don't, you know, they're having. 10:20:04 Problems. With their commissioner in district 3. But there is a lot to talk about and I really I actually got a lot out of the sewer presentation that having ancillary benefit is probably. 10:20:26 Justifiable. I think, I don't know, someone had floated maybe not having subsequent meetings. 10:20:31 I just I'm not really interested in that too much just because we had poor attendance at some. 10:20:36 You know, doesn't mean that other communities aren't going to engage. So it seems just ingenuous. 10:20:45 Yeah, what's on the lines of the local residents? And I think the further south we go, the greater attendance will be. 10:20:48 Yeah, there's a lot more on our minds. But, also I think finding, as Kate said earlier, something that folks want to talk about. 10:20:58 So for the next couple of meetings, as Kate said earlier, something that folks want to talk about. So for the next couple of meetings, I'm going to take it on myself to do a little bit of. 10:21:02 Like, what do you guys want to talk about at Gardner? And they're gonna want to talk about the boat ramp and fireworks. 10:21:08 And what do you want to talk about in, in the West End. So little more kind of seating the pot with some. 10:21:16 Explicit outreach. To the some of the community leaders down there, I think will help. 10:21:22 Then on Thursday. I was crabbing on Thursday for the first time. Off the pier down here in Port Townsend. It was great. 10:21:33 Loved it. 10:21:35 Got Red Rock mostly, which is a lot of work. Get them out. Yeah, you don't like it. 10:21:44 A 1,000 back? Yeah. Wow. We didn't have the luxury of 50 crab. 10:21:47 We had 3 crowds. So, but it's nice to be able to, you know, just drop it in, go walk around downtown a little bit and just go get your crab. Downtown a little bit and just go get your crab. 10:21:57 So super convenient. And downtown a little bit and just go get your crap. So super convenient. I'll be back. 10:21:57 I'm allergic. I will never know. You know, need one or 2 or instead of just one. 10:22:17 Howling that night. So. Was wild. Wild ride. 10:22:21 And then did agenda planning with Chris and Mark's absence at risk pool. And then, well, that was a heavy list. 10:22:30 It was a heavy list of journey planning. Yeah, did not take too long. And then board of health of course we talked about and I went and met with some of the leaders from the American Legion who are I don't know, having some frustrating communications with Olicap regarding shelter and just trying to. 10:22:49 Give car rails for everyone so we can Navigate this last last chapter of our of the shelters existence at the American Legion gracefully and I think that was Well, appreciated. 10:23:02 I just I happened to you know I was hanging around. The whole living around for towns and as the kids do and you know went to the concert on the docks and saw the great presentation from the city about having vista and a different option they have so that was a good conversation with Emma and Steve out there and they did that at concerts on the dock. They did. 10:23:24 They just they had just a booth step and all their platforms out and everything. So it wasn't like a presentation. 10:23:29 But it was good. Moving along, I was like, I'd love to learn more. 10:23:34 So I think they'll include all of us instead of just Kate maybe and they move forward. I really haven't seen you very much. 10:23:38 I don't know. You seen much as it's coming? No, I haven't done anything with that. 10:23:45 It's just, ages. Yeah, so they're still moving along. You know, their consultants are working through it. 10:23:47 So curious to see they've got a couple proposed ideas, but there's still a fundamental thing I don't understand. 10:23:56 What they really identified is that the the sector that they need to create housing for is the 200% and below medium income. 10:24:07 Best like the workforce that struggles to get housing and then I've worked with where how are you doing? 10:24:12 Pay for that all the money is like 60% am I and below maybe 80% so Gotta be one of our legislative pushes. 10:24:20 Yeah. I guess. So, I'm seeing more and more, 200% federal poverty level. 10:24:30 Oh yeah, 200% poverty. Okay, sorry. 200% poverty level. Hmm. 10:24:35 But is it federal poverty level or do they account? Do they? Be interesting to do an analysis and see which is more beneficial for us here. 10:24:52 I mean our IS actually fairly low. 10:24:58 Yeah, and according to assessor Chapman, it was expected to go way up and then came way back down from. 10:25:05 And like, it's not helpful. Friday we cancelled the BHSO meeting. There was not too much to go on about. 10:25:16 Talk with, Mr. Peters from DCD, couple of issues and then county coordination. 10:25:23 Then I went on the radio with Nicole got there and and Debianki from the GM transit as well as the chair of Tad. 10:25:33 They did great. We argued about it. That was like one of our preceded arguing and and they were like still 0 fair but if you're talking free fair That's still accurate. 10:25:47 I'm going with Free Fair. I feel like I won the argument, but we didn't, I couldn't get Jim to, but we did talk about 0 fair. 10:25:57 We talked about electric buses. We talked about 10:26:00 New membership on JTAB as well as the need for more people on the tag and important roles that Tag offers. 10:26:11 And listen to Magic Bus by the Who. And one other bus song. I figure which one. But that was good. 10:26:20 Then, 10:26:23 And that's that was pretty much it. I didn't, this coming week. Let's see, I have the finance meeting tomorrow morning and then meeting Chief Black for some coffee. 10:26:35 On Wednesday, I'm gonna miss the. Go to all ups River Collaborative to join you guys or at least, Heidi at the budget committee meeting. 10:26:48 Housing fun board meeting and I'll try to make it to the DEMS picnic out there at HJ Carol Park. 10:26:54 On Thursday I won't be able to go to the Wasack. Broadband committee because I'll be at the Jeffcom, 9 1 one meeting going through collective bargaining with Jeffcom right now. 10:27:08 Agenda planning with Mark. And then Friday most of the day will be the solid waste task force. 10:27:16 That I will be at and with. Both of you guys I guess. 10:27:23 And then I'm. Saturday I'm going to art there actually we have a friend who's in it so we'll be we'll be gone Saturday and Sunday so I'll be missing the Sunday picnic. 10:27:36 And then. Monday I'll be at Jefferson Healthcare all day. We're not gonna have a meeting on the following Monday, of course, because the fifth Monday, but I'll be. 10:27:46 Okay, I'm going to be watching basal cell sarcoma's carved out of my body somewhere between 2 and 6 h. 10:27:54 Take it out. Is there anything left? Take some more, take some more. So it's a. 10:28:01 Kids, where your sunscreen? And And that's it. Yeah, I can't come close to matching. 10:28:18 All right. Well, Mark, tell us about last week and this coming week. I can't come close to matching. 10:28:33 Well, yeah, and I've got some news to share about. Oh no. Always. I've never been good news back from that conference. 10:28:41 Pardon? So you never bring good news back from that conference. Pardon? So you never bring good back from that conference? 10:28:44 Not lately, no. Okay. So you never bring good back from that conference? Slightly, no. 10:28:48 Okay, so on the seventeenth board meeting. And then on the eighteenth trying to wrap things up before I left, I had coffee with Mallory Weinheimer in the morning. 10:28:55 And then my senior management team meeting. Then I met with, Chris Goy and so, to talk about, We ran into an issue with a position where we owe retroactive payments to the retirement system. 10:29:14 And so we just worked through that. Then met to discuss the unnis depreciation schedule. You know, it's a mundane accounting thing, but we need to charge departments depreciation so we can. 10:29:27 Pull some money to replace Munis. And we selected a useful life of 15 years. 10:29:34 And so that. Oh, it's from Munis itself to depreciate. Yes, interesting. 10:29:40 Yeah. That's funny, I've never thought of software to appreciate it. We did it for gems. 10:29:49 So we had 447,000 set aside to replace jams. So we had 447,000 set aside to replace jams when the time came. 10:29:53 We did it for gems. So we had 447,000 set aside to replace jams when the time came was not enough. 10:29:56 Ask of the general fund was substantially reduced because we have that 4 47 set aside. And so this is just responsible financial management. 10:30:07 And then of course I sat in on the 2 h meeting on the Recompete Grant. Very, very interesting. 10:30:14 A lot of very informed educated people contributing. 10:30:19 A lot of good ideas. I'm looking forward to the summary documents. And I'm sure Greg is the rep to that group. 10:30:27 All 3 of you are looking forward to those documents, but you in particular, you're going to be participating. 10:30:34 Any distillation, any takeaways that. It sort of ran the gamut. It was very wide ranging. 10:30:41 You know, We have industry here already and there are things that can be further developed and teamwork was really talked up and having a coherent, regional strategy. 10:30:57 But. Nothing of an exceptionally profound nature that I should share. With you. 10:31:07 That I met with my weekly with Brent Butler and then I had my monthly check in with Wassack, another county administrator group. 10:31:19 Big thing there that I'm really interested in is a class action lawsuit on indigent defense. 10:31:26 It's a constitutional duty of the state to provide defense for indigent individuals and And the argument is that it's severely underfunded. 10:31:37 And for example, we get about 35,000 to help us with a million dollar annual cost. Correct. 10:31:44 Yeah, slightly under funded. And. There are other issues associated with indigent defense, especially east of the mountains where the supply of attorneys is incredibly small. 10:31:55 And sometimes they struggle to provide. Defense for indigent individuals and they've got to import attorneys from out of county. 10:32:04 And according to Eric Johnson, though, there's a risk here. That during the lawsuit, other parties might argue that our case standards are inappropriate and that we need to dramatically lower them. 10:32:20 Which would then require us to bring on additional attorneys and would substantially increase our cost. So it's one of those careful what you ask for. 10:32:30 Types of lawsuits because You could fail in your effort but lose on a number of other fronts. 10:32:39 And so, anyway, I'm. It'd be great if they would fund half of our indigent defense mission that would free up funds for other important local needs like housing and so on. 10:32:51 And that's just bolstered with general fund dollars, right? Yes. It's all known departmental. 10:33:00 Okay, then on Wednesday I was on route to Spokane and I was in Spokane for the balance of the week. 10:33:10 Now, liability premiums. And this is for the entire county. No, we pay this out of non departmental and then Judy Shepherd does a journal voucher to spread it. 10:33:22 Using our allocation methodology. Liabilities going up from 774,000 to 911. 10:33:31 That's a 17.7% increase. Is that like across the state everywhere is going up 17% or yes, okay, it's not like a risk about as close as free trends. 10:33:43 They're talking about they call them nuclear verdicts. Where someone will sue and, you know, a rational award might be 10 million, but the jury might award a hundred 1 million. 10:33:58 And so the risk poll has actually had a number of large losses. Contributes to the increase in the premium. 10:34:07 But then you have industry wide, phenomenon occurring. And it's. 10:34:15 Fewer insurers. Are providing. Quotes for reinsurance layers, you know. And the pool is looking at increasing its self injured retention. 10:34:28 . Which means that claims up to potentially 3 million they would have to pay out of reserves. And they have to have the reserves in order to pay them. And where do the reserves come from? 10:34:40 They come from member counties. And so. They did increase their SIR a number of years ago and our premiums have gone up to help. 10:34:49 Fund the reserve so that they can actually stand business with that increased SIR. So one thing we need to look at and I know that Philip Morley talked about this number of years ago is doing a study to see if we should increase our deductibles from 25,000 up to some larger amount. 10:35:08 Which would, require, a historical review of what our claims have been and would it make sense. 10:35:16 How many claims have we had? What? Where our total payments, what would our total payments have been if we had to pay out a hundred 1,000 versus 25? 10:35:25 And then compare that to the growth in premiums. Right. So what's the what's the premium differential if you're deductibles, 25 versus a hundred 1,000. 10:35:38 We would have to look into II would need to get a quote from the risk pool if we doubled our deductible with our premium. 10:35:42 Be reduced by by half. I don't believe so. I don't believe it's a linear relationship. 10:35:48 Doesn't, but that would be part of the study. So that's something that I might to do with. 10:35:54 And that was a small increase. The large increases in property. A number of reasons for that. Dramatically increased property valuations and the cost of replacement or reconstruction. 10:36:09 You know, what's inflation been over the last few years? 20%. So our property, premiums going up from 2 75 to 372,000. 10:36:23 That's an increase of 405%. Wow. Now that's still smaller than the premium increase that we saw between 21 and 22 or. 10:36:31 Liability premium one up 40%. So when you, and crime terrorism, cyber, those costs are static. 10:36:44 But when you, when you Add these 2 together, it's a 22. A 3% increase in the premiums for these 2 items. 10:36:55 So, another thing I would probably be prudent is maybe to test the insurance market to see if we Like, County did when they were evicted from the pool. 10:37:09 What would it look like if we. Trying to insure ourselves. Whether or not it would be cheaper, more expensive, or what have you. 10:37:20 So yeah, II was wondering, I mean, like, Do we get data on if there are certain? 10:37:26 Is this just counties in our pool? 24 counties. No cities, no other. No cities, there's people for cities also. 10:37:36 I mean, are there counties that are costing much more and that are costing the risk pool much more and stand right well if you look at that's part of the information that they share is. 10:37:50 How many people are in a county? How many, one chart it shows how many liability cases, how many property cases and so on. 10:37:59 And there are some counties that I think one has 35 active faces. Oh, we have 5. 10:38:05 And they're all liability. We have no property cases. And when you think of the cases that. 10:38:12 That the risk will knows about. We have the carpenter case, we have the Dave Carter case. 10:38:17 We have the Julie St. Marie case. And 2 others. 10:38:24 But we don't know what the ultimate outcome of the lawsuits will be on those cases. But the risk pool does set aside. 10:38:34 Reserves. 10:38:38 So, I would say that of the 24 counties were probably in the bottom third in terms of. 10:38:47 Where the risk pool has to fork out not monies to cover settlements and that's evident in our experience factor. 10:38:57 If you're even in the group, your experience factor is one. If you're worse than average. 10:39:04 Than your experience factor is greater than one. So they take your premium on a straight line basis and they multiply it by that experience factor so then you end up paying a higher premium. 10:39:15 Counties with a better loss experience pay. They'll have a less than one. You know, if you were one and it was 10,000 and you had a point 9, then you would end up paying 9,000. 10:39:30 And so it's a it's a fair system. What's our is that? It's 1.0 5. 10:39:35 Okay, so we're just a little bit above even. 10:39:39 Hmm. So when, you know, the risk management program, the whole purpose of that is to try to keep that experience factor low. 10:39:46 Hmm. Right. So, okay, so that was risk full conference. 10:39:54 And then go on to next week. And so oddly, I have nothing on my calendar for Monday. 10:40:04 Tuesday, senior management, then risk management at 1030. I'm gonna have lunch with John Morrow. 10:40:13 1145 and that's it for Tuesday. Wednesday. And you're on this week, right? 10:40:23 You're on this current week? 20 fourth? Yeah, I'm sorry. I said next week, but I. 10:40:27 This week. 10:40:32 So, yeah, I'm totally messed up. Sorry. Some short meeting today. Tomorrow, quarterly finance committee meeting. 10:40:41 And then Grant, administrator interviews. We have 2 candidates for that, both of which have some promise. And then, Courthouse Security. 10:40:51 Group is meeting tomorrow at noon. And there's a Cordel security grant that Superior Court and W. 10:41:00 Interested in pursuing and then Chris Koy will be there as the facility manager. And then in the afternoon, we're gonna negotiate open negotiations with Sheriff's admin. 10:41:12 And so hopefully. Negotiations with that unit will take. No more time than it took with you. 10:41:21 Wednesday budget committee meeting. Strategic plan project team meeting. And then, LTax special meeting. 10:41:30 I guess we're gonna talk about numbers and other matters. 10:41:38 And that then on Thursday, check on 9 1 one board meeting agenda planning with. And I'm gonna visit DCD and Greg Dallard is going to run me through all the positive changes he's made over there. 10:41:53 So I'm surviving on 22 June. When is that? Perfect. When is that? 10:41:56 It's tomorrow at 20'clock. Does someone want to join me? I would love to join. 10:42:01 I will give them a heads up and I'll send the invite. Oh yeah, let me just forward it to you then. 10:42:12 30'clock, beat Kriskoy and then 40'clock. Beat with Josh Peters. 10:42:17 On Friday. Late time. 10:42:23 That's next week. We should probably look at the following week since we aren't going to be here on Monday. 10:42:31 I wanna take a look and see if there's any conflicts next time the following week as well. 10:42:39 So keep going. Yeah. Okay, so Monday no meeting. 10:42:46 And then on Tuesday. Senior Management Risk Management. On Wednesday. 10:42:58 Thanks to the board approving the supplemental appropriation that Sarah submitted for additional HR resources. We're going to interview for that. 10:43:07 HR analyst. Position that the budget you provided will fund. 10:43:14 And then strategic plan project team meeting and then lunch with Chief Black. And then the public sector cabinet meeting. 10:43:24 Yeah, 3 x clock. And Kate, you're in on that. I understand it. 10:43:31 On Thursday. Meet with Brent Butler in the morning, agenda planning with Greg at 1 30 and then. 10:43:41 James Kennedy is interested in our case management software. For his office and so Chris Gray arranged a software demonstration with a company called Carpel. 10:43:54 So a number of people from James's office will be in on that demo. And then I weekly with Chris and then my weekly with Josh. 10:44:06 And then Friday, late time. 10:44:11 Other people wanna go through there the first week in August real quick? Happy to look and then I was also gonna. 10:44:17 Just flag. Just so you're aware of it, Greg. 10:44:23 We received. A request for supplementary funding from the North Hook and El Chamber of Commerce for the quilting visitors center because the forest service as finalized their decision not to staff. 10:44:35 Offices. So we'll be considering that at our LTAC meeting next week as well. That's one of the special items. 10:44:42 I think it's. There might be one other one, but that's the one. And then the first week of August, I'll be attending that DEMS picnic in Squim on Sunday the thirtieth. 10:44:57 Twenty-fourth Ldims picnic. And then Monday. On my calendar so, first week of August is a big week around my house. 10:45:11 We have our annual garden parties sculpture and garden party so we will be ramping up for that. 10:45:17 And I may take Monday to. Finalize my plans. For later in the week and then. 10:45:25 I'm holding a few times. During the first week of August for next drainage district stakeholder meeting. 10:45:32 I have an MRC meeting the evening of August first. 10:45:38 Holding some time for a Piff meeting on the morning of August second. We haven't confirmed that. 10:45:45 Haven't confirmed that date yet. Have a Jefferson Transit Authority Finance Committee meeting on the afternoon of August second. 10:45:56 On August third and fourth I may be out. Getting ready for a hundred people to send on my house or 75 people it looks like. 10:46:05 So. I haven't had much time this year. I usually have And years past, I've had more time to get prepared for this, so I'm just gonna cram it all in that week. 10:46:16 But on Thursday evening or Thursday, August third I have a, Jefferson County. Content for the. 10:46:23 Peninsula Trails Coalition. Meeting. And then Saturday the fifth is said. Gathering. 10:46:32 So. 10:46:33 That's my first week of August in a nutshell. And Yeah. And then. So I don't know the next on the next week. 10:46:44 So yeah, that's it. 10:46:46 Yeah, I have a usual complement of meetings that week. I had managed to fill up my Monday with couple of meetings already. 10:46:55 I mean, a school research service center. Meeting that day. I'm, on the board of, Tuesday have a economic development council finance. 10:47:07 Meeting and the Maritime Washington National Heritage Area meeting. Wednesday is the economic development council full board meeting. 10:47:14 Followed by a check in with Jefferson Healthcare. And the public sector cabinet meeting. So think economic development week next week. 10:47:24 Oh, on there twice. Have to be at Fred Hatch on third and then fairgrounds meeting that evening. 10:47:35 And then. Then the Week after that, I'm, you know, supposed to be out when this. 10:47:42 With my husband on medical leave this summer, but it got delayed until fall and I realized I should go see my son who's working in Congress. 10:47:56 And it's just, I assumed I wasn't going to be able to lay eyes on him in that role, but, I might try and squeeze in a few days in DC to. 10:47:58 See him in his, in his role working with. Representative Loose and Kemp Perez. 10:48:05 So I might see if I can squeeze it in that second week before our medical stuff really ramps up the third week of August. 10:48:10 So. 10:48:12 So stay tuned. I'll let you know if I decide to, but probably do it as a long weekend and just try to miss a day or 2 work, but. 10:48:20 Sound good. Let's see. I have, as my first weeks are usually pretty light and I told you what I'm doing on Monday. 10:48:29 I don't have anything on the schedule yet for Tuesday the first. On Wednesday. Anti-racist class every 2 weeks and then. 10:48:39 Thursday at the O 3 a council of governments meeting as well as agenda planning and then a bit of a conflict with the parks and advisory board meeting. 10:48:49 Same time as the Port Ludlow village council meetings so I'm probably not gonna go to the village council meeting. 10:48:56 Because it does often conflict in high. PARKS and rack for you if you need it. 10:49:03 I'm making a presentation about the kiosk, so I do wanna go to the Parks. 10:49:09 When is PLVC? It's in person at 3 pm. Sorry, which? On the third. 10:49:16 Not good for you. 30 of the day here. I am in Seattle. But, yeah, I think I think I'm there to like one or 2. 10:49:25 Be hard to get back, but yeah, first thing on the agenda. We've got it. Big stuff coming up in the next couple of months with the village council. 10:49:35 Working a little bit with Josh about coming up with a concept of it as a call of the Well attended district 3 community conversation meeting when we talked about the end of the. 10:49:48 Moratorium on Amazon commercial tree harvesting. So Come in, you know, Josh has met with the prosecutor's office and everything and in the fall or coming, going to get some. 10:50:01 Concepts that we can run by the community. So I think there's not a lot to share this this Thursday this coming the third so if someone would like to attend that would be great. 10:50:14 Good to have a different perspective, but. I don't think it's great. 10:50:23 Let me know. Okay, I think it'd be hard for me to get back, but, it's on the way back from Seattle. 10:50:37 Okay, well, I know that Heidi and Mark have an 110'clock. And anything else folks want to touch on? 10:50:45 So good to the order. Any update on It'll be 2 weeks. Let's just take a quick look at it. 10:51:01 How are we doing? And also, I might just remind us that we do need to decide if we want to. 10:51:08 Help fund the North Olympic Legislative Alliance. For the upcoming session. 10:51:15 Why wouldn't we? We've only done it once. That was to relieve the EDC of another expense. 10:51:23 But we don't even know. Yeah. But yes, and yet like the kind of scope of what they can advocate for depends on if we're paying or not. 10:51:36 So, you know, we have a lot more say if we are helping to fund it. Not in a formal way in terms of representation of a vote or something but you know we We have been a an equal partner, I would say, and setting the agenda, even though we pay a third. 10:51:55 And I think I would probably lose my status as a equal cochair if I were, if we were to not be paying. 10:52:03 So. $10. 12,000 a month. 10:52:15 We paid that invoice this year. I can About a thousand a month? There's not an invoice, Oh, was that the convoluted agreement we just entered into? 10:52:32 Where it was more like a free way. I can't remember how it. Transpired. 10:52:40 It was a few months ago. So it would have been Gordon Honeywell. That's the one. Sorry. 10:52:47 I mean convoluted in a derogatory sense. I mean, I was really motivated seeing the lammered flexibility in our strategic plan and, you know, maybe it is time to really start and, you know, push in. 10:53:02 We feel like it innovation there. And, would be a good place to do that. 10:53:11 Sound like, Yeah, that seems like reason enough to me. Okay. Well, I could. 10:53:23 You know, participate in Nola and say our intention to do that and then it would go through. Our usual contract process. 10:53:33 Sound good. Great. Thanks for bringing that up. So back to the board board and committee vacancies. 10:53:39 It looks like staff is working on advertising a number of them. Listen, and I will. I see there's a bunch of, Get with Julie and figure out which are vacant there. 10:53:53 It says there are none on the sheet, but then. When you get down to the second page or the The first page it says. 10:54:00 There are 3 and then on the second page, it says there are none. So I need to figure out why that's. 10:54:06 Okay. And then sounds like with conservation features there's. Hope for re appointments. So. 10:54:13 A lot of time they make a lot of times the vacancies are just. Reappointments have not been. 10:54:21 Done. And then in MRC. Oh 3 actually appointed a few. 10:54:28 Well, if there's a border committee that you are the commissioner to. And you know that there's a discrepancy in the list get with Julie to figure that out because a couple of times that's worked for CNI. 10:54:41 To true up the lists. Does solid waste advisory committee do they tend to recruit? You know, there's always that difference in how boards function. 10:54:52 Some like to. Recruit members and some like us too. So I'm always advertising currently. And we just got the district 2 person. So that's it. 10:55:03 Stephen Chapius. There's another, there's another district 2 person who's also interested. 10:55:07 So. That, so there's a number of seats that are filled on here. Okay, great. 10:55:13 Hi, somebody great interested for planning commission for district one. Interesting. We're looking for a district 3 member for the pipboard, huh? 10:55:27 It's a hard one to keep filled. Are those meetings all hybrid? Yeah. 10:55:36 Yep. 10:55:52 For noxious weedboard. Going through. Rattle the cage again, Greg. Shake the cage. 10:56:02 Yeah, because they're trapped up there with the work on Hmm. Oh, they're, they're literally trapped. 10:56:11 Okay, will you see it? Yeah. Have you seen pictures that I know,'s sent them as well but 40 feet down, you know, it's crazy to see in this road that we go on all the time. 10:56:23 That's a steep area. Okay, well, anything last last thoughts for the good of the order? 10:56:31 Have a good. It's like a whole meeting and a half that we are taking a summer vacation from. 10:56:39 Indeed. That's great. Okay, well with that we will I will adjourn this meeting and let Mark and how you get after the next one.