HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption09:01:02 We have Kate with us. Okay. Good morning. Good morning, Kate.
09:01:06 Good morning. Okay, can you can hear me all right?
09:01:11 Yes. Yep, we can. Sorry. My computer had to reboot.
09:01:16 So I'm just a little blind. But, Morning, Kate. I will call this September eleventh meeting of the Board of County Commissioners to order.
09:01:25 And we will, we're gonna have a moment of silence and commemorate the losses that we all severed the the second Trump I would say that our whole nation suffered on 9 11.
09:01:36 Come 9 45 with a ringing of the bell. At 9 59 but first we will begin as we always do with public comment.
09:01:48 So anyone who is with us in person, I don't know, Susan, did you yet? Please come on up, make sure you speak in the microphones if you can all hear you.
09:01:53 Is that good? Yeah, I have 3Â min. Thank you. So I actually wrote this letter on August, the 20 eighth.
09:02:01 But I just wanted to read it to all of you. Last week, the UFCW 3,000 unit contract was signed.
09:02:07 I want to commend all who had a part in this process. This is my eighth experience in being on the negotiating team in this recent contract negotiation was night and day difference
from all past.
09:02:16 Union negotiations. The county was represented by Sarah Melanchon, HR director and Mark McCauley County Administrator.
09:02:24 And what stood out in particular is first, our negotiation meeting began with a statement read by the HR director regarding the fundamental purpose of public employment.
09:02:33 Is to provide the highest level services to the citizens of Jefferson County and that this will be the overarching guidance and the negotiating process that value and fairness
to employees being part of this process.
09:02:45 Our concerns, number 2, our concerns were listened to with careful attention to the details. Solutions were then proposed that addressed and solved the concerns of both sides.
09:02:56 The process went smoothly and was much more streamlined and efficient than past negotiations. The final agreements were beneficial and fair to both the employees and county.
09:03:05 The contract supports the goal of the highest level services to citizens of our county. As a result, the message we received as employees of the county is that we are valued
and appreciated.
09:03:16 And I have to say this to the first. Also at first each of us on the negotiating team was asked to sign the final contract.
09:03:21 Thank you for changing the structure of negotiations. Thank you for hiring, Sara, Mellingcom for HR director and thank you for rallying the public employees of Jefferson County.
09:03:31 Thank you, Susan O'brien. Yeah, great for the record. Thank you.
09:03:37 And stick around if you can, Susan, we, usually respond to public comment after we've heard all public comment but will if we get a break we will do any responses.
09:03:46 I'll turn to the online guests and ask if anyone would like to make a public comment today. You can click raise hand or star 9 if you're on the phone.
09:03:55 Value this input. Let me bring Mr. Cheers over.
09:04:02 Morning, Monty.
09:04:07 Mr. Cheers, thanks for joining us today. You have 3Â min.
09:04:12 Good morning commissioners, one and all. I have comment about an item on your consent agenda this morning.
09:04:22 Specifically, item number 2, which is asking you to to sign a contract. That clearly violates the Washington State Constitution.
09:04:31 Article one, section 11. And I will quote, no public money or property shall be appropriated for or applied to any religious worship, exercise or instruction or the support
of any religious establishment, end quote.
09:04:47 So this percentage agenda item is asking you. To give some money to a church. To fix door handles and stuff.
09:04:56 Well, we went through the same thing with this same church. Earlier last year. Where they wanted $20,000 to fix the roof and their their windows.
09:05:07 And at that time, you commissioners wisely decided that no, that would not be a good idea, it would not be appropriate.
09:05:14 In fact, it would be worse than illegal, it would be unconstitutional. For you to provide that money.
09:05:20 And so the same applies here. And you just need to reject this proposal. I think it's disappointing.
09:05:29 That your time is being wasted that the county's time and resources are being wasted by this church that continues to try to.
09:05:37 You know, elicit money in a way that it simply is not allowed to do under our constitution.
09:05:44 You know. It's just annoying that they that they keep trying. And wasting time and money.
09:05:53 One other comment. And that's what what you just mentioned, Commissioner Brotherton, regarding the trauma of 9 11.
09:06:02 There's another trauma. That is not as well recognized. And that's the so-called Patriot Act.
09:06:10 That, that thing. Attacked our personal rights. To an extent never seen before. And unfortunately most of its provisions are still in effect.
09:06:22 You got TSA, you can't go anywhere without being searched.
09:06:27 And that sort of violation of our personal liberties. Is, you know, simply, well, it's highly objectionable to me.
09:06:36 Always has been, always will be. And I just wanted to say that. Yes, we have to remember we were attacked, but you know, we are now attacking ourselves by removing our liberties.
09:06:47 Anyway, thank you for the opportunity to comment.
09:06:50 Thank you, Mr. Teersch. Okay, would anyone else online like to make a public comment today?
09:06:57 You can click raise hand or star 9 if you're on the phone. We would love to hear from you.
09:07:05 Okay, I don't see any hands at this moment, but if you feel moved to comment, please do raise your hand.
09:07:11 We'll keep public comment open till 9 30 and I'll turn maybe the Kate first. Any responses for Susan or Tom's comments?
09:07:19 Yes, Susan, I'm so glad to hear that you and others feel that the process, embarked upon for click to bargaining was more effective.
09:07:30 That was the hope when when we embarked upon this and I'm glad that you can to agreement we have a number of more agreements to negotiate and so really hoping that they go as
smoothly but appreciate your feedback.
09:07:45 You know, sometimes we only hear when things don't go well. So really appreciate hearing that things did go well.
09:07:52 Mr. Teersch, I, I shared your concern. I did see in the a consent agenda item that in a number of community groups were listed demonstrating that there is public use and benefit
at Trinity United or Trinity Methodist Church.
09:08:12 Which I believe in our previous analysis was the threshold we needed to get to that. Local governments do.
09:08:21 Sometimes provide funding to the faith community if they provide services. But, I guess I am inclined to get an interpretation on this.
09:08:31 I would suggest we pull it and see if, our legal counsel can weigh in one way or the other on it.
09:08:37 I'm also not sure that the list provided by, The church is current. And so I think if there is a threshold of some sort of public benefit, we might need to verify that.
09:08:51 I, you know, we don't want to just have it for private groups that are not. Open to the public or something like that.
09:08:56 So that would be my recommendation.
09:08:58 Thanks, Kate. Heidi. And I would just, I mean. Sometimes I feel like we just say did a lot.
09:09:07 But she said it pretty well. I also, agree and I am thankful for Sarah Millen's leadership through these negotiations and I like the approach we're taking and I from all the
feedback I've heard it's working well and I I really appreciate you being here today and saying it in the record because it is hard as Kate just mentioned.
09:09:25 We do often just hear when things aren't going well and there was a letter on the public comments today about the Humane Society, and about the director being fired.
09:09:39 And I was like, wait, she was just in here last week talking about her plans for the future.
09:09:42 I don't understand. So sometimes it's confusing and so it's much more helpful when someone comes in and says This is working. Thank you.
09:09:48 So that's really great to hear. And I think that. Support for our teams of employees is is should be priority number one and hearing that a new approach to something is working
is really helpful for us in our role.
09:10:06 And I am glad that Kate said. Recommended pulling that item from the the agenda and getting more analysis. I was like, what are we going to do?
09:10:16 This is there's clear benefit to these community groups, but there it also appears to be a clear conflict with our constitution.
09:10:23 So. I agree with having more analysis on that. Consent agenda and I think it's actually items number.
09:10:29 One and 2. Cause they're same the same exactly. Yeah. So.
09:10:36 Dinner. Yeah. No, you guys said it well, I thank really appreciate you taking the time Susan to come in and And, you know, acknowledge when we do things right too.
09:10:46 And this is a process. I mean, negotiating with our employees were the ones who are the manifestation of the county is is really important.
09:10:56 So I'm glad it was received well and I hope that it's a roadmap for the future.
09:10:59 So we can, there's always a tension between. Labor and management and we're even a little bit outside that often in our role and it's it's great to get confirmation when we're
on the right track.
09:11:10 So thank you. And I agree with Kate and Heidi and and Mr. Teers as well that we should probably.
09:11:17 Pull this and get a little more analysis on it. Yeah, we've, this is not, our first rodeo on this and
09:11:24 Yeah, I agree. It bears more analysis.
09:11:28 Okay, welcome,ty Reinders to our acting county administrator joining us and ask if anyone else with us today would like to make public comment.
09:11:41 We'd love to hear from you. Or maybe do you wanna? Talk to we should we talk?
09:11:46 We got a lot of public comment or have continued to get public comment about the humane society. And often with, you know.
09:11:55 I'd say an edge to them. And I have different edges though. Different edges, different edges.
09:12:03 We don't of course manage the humane society. They're independent of us. Do they?
09:12:06 Enforce some county code the animal control code and there's been Also, I think. The history has been checkered in the relationship between the humane society and the county
and there's other agencies or nonprofits in the county that provide similar functions too.
09:12:24 So whether or not they stay in the functions of animal control has even been a question in the past no I think it's not a question right now.
09:12:33 Even in my time as Commissioner. But I think all agencies are comfortable with them being the animal control. I forget what they.
09:12:42 Specific design is and the other nonprofit kind of offers complementary but not identical. And I think we're dedicated to looking for solutions to the complete lack of funding
and to the kind of structural problems that exist of.
09:13:03 Essentially free rent at a county facility and the additional costs that that raises for maintenance and everything. So. We're on that path.
09:13:13 I just want to acknowledge those multiple letters that we've received and I think we're aligned with the direction they want to go.
09:13:19 And I hope Ken is still there. Yeah, we need to, I will, I will follow up and find out.
09:13:26 Okay. Thanks, Susan. Any other public comment? Nope.
09:13:34 Well, I will keep it open until 9 30 as I said, but let's take a look at our consent agenda.
09:13:41 And we were talking about Go ahead.
09:13:42 Thank you. For clarification on one issue. I'm just, I think Maybe we should clarify with, Carolyn how we want to get that agenda item number 2, up to.
09:13:55 The civil deputy's office without or excuse me if that marker to do his usual shepherding and I want to lose sight of it.
09:14:02 Oh, I'm on the phone with Anna McKay right now who put forward that agenda request and that contract and she's asking to pull until Mark and Collee can have a chance to view
it.
09:14:11 Okay. So, and I think it's both the agenda items one and 2. Yes. So, could you hear Carol and Kate?
09:14:20 Yes, thank you. Just didn't wanna, didn't wanna lose sight of it.
09:14:23 Yep, so items one and 2. We'll, we'll plan to, pull and tell Mark's return so we can, really dig into it.
09:14:35 Any other issues or questions or comments? I, you know, just, happy to see the school based mental health agreements moving forward.
09:14:46 I mean, we'll probably hear this isn't enough funding. It's seems like.
09:14:51 On the behavioral health advisory committee we hear about this a lot and it. It's pain, it pains me that this is needs to be such an area of focus, but also.
09:15:05 I think it's a good thing that we focus. At this age in people's lives. When people are young, you know, addressing issues in their.
09:15:14 Daily life as we can and helping to build a stronger foundation for kids. So I mean, it's just, I don't know.
09:15:21 They're like trees. When's the best day to start planting them? It's today.
09:15:26 Right, right. So it's, you know, consent agenda is like this, you know, every week we have this consent and I always.
09:15:32 Ask myself to reflect on where I get paused and I did. When I got to those 2 agreements but not Not in, opposition to them, yeah, in a good way, in a good way.
09:15:45 Yeah. Great. And then. 7 and 8.
09:15:53 Glad to see HAD Luxuor project moving forward, Monty. Yeah. Bit by bit, little by little.
09:15:59 We, and start having these agreements. So yeah, change order, yet, but. Good to see it going to a local.
09:16:04 Firm, that means local jobs and glad to see it moving forward. Yeah, it's progressing well.
09:16:14 Although this week they're kind of off on the Swansonville job that they're doing for the DOT that they have to get finished I think by the end of the week.
09:16:23 That project had a tight timeline, but then they'll be back at it, next week and, They're doing a great job.
09:16:32 And, we're closing in on getting the wastewater treatment plan itself out to bid, hopefully in October.
09:16:40 I know Samantha Harper and John Black and others are. Are working, diligently on that.
09:16:47 As well. Excellent. I drove by the Swansonville project and it's great that local contractors are getting those, those statewide bid contracts as well.
09:16:56 Yeah, I mean, some of them, you know, like that one in Seaton, our local contractor who's doing the sewer also did the project out there on one of 4 fairly large project but
many of these fish passage projects are being put out as design build, 100 million dollar things and that's a a little bit harder for our local contractors, although they may get pulled
in as subcontractors on these
09:17:23 jobs. You know, you're getting the you know, some pretty big firms from out of the area coming in to do some of that work, but.
09:17:30 Like you say, some of the jobs are, going straight to local contractors. Which is which is good to see.
09:17:39 Yeah. Excellent. Any questions or comments? Go ahead.
09:17:44 Yeah, I just like to call out a couple of, wins, for environmental health.
09:17:51 We've been talking for a long time about making more digital the food permits so thrilled to see that that's finally happening I remember talking to Stuart Whitford about that
years ago.
09:18:02 And the second, sorry go ahead.
09:18:02 Hello. I said I love seeing that one too. Yeah, it's work. It's just looking through it is like it's a lot of work.
09:18:11 So it's great.
09:18:12 Yeah, yeah. And then the second also in, involves public works just, getting that seal rock road property, which is having a really hard time being able to get.
09:18:24 Septic. septic field. Upgraded and improved right along the water.
09:18:32 Hood canal that is took a lot of creative efforts by Amanda Christopherson when she was still at environmental health and you know, public works, was willing to make that right
of way available.
09:18:46 So, thank you. Public works team and right away team in particular. It took the the kind of Problem solving and willingness to.
09:18:57 You know work within the parameters we have to make something a better solution possible it's easy to get to know in this world and it's Really appreciate that, the county was
able to get to yes on this and I know the property owner really appreciates it too.
09:19:11 So just. Great work.
09:19:11 Yeah. Colette as well. She did a lot of work on that. Yeah.
09:19:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right away person, really good. Working with the county's legal council to work through that one.
09:19:25 So yeah, yeah. Yeah, great. Yeah, I spent more time on that one than any of the rest and it was like, this is a lot of work.
09:19:32 So I could, ditto the kudos to Coat. I could, I could see the work going into this one.
09:19:42 Okay. Anything else? No, I'm happy to, move that we adopt the consent agenda for.
09:19:51 September eleventh, 2023. You wanna pull some? Pulling items number one into and asking for a legal advice on Those 2.
09:20:04 Okay.
09:20:05 I have a second.
09:20:06 All right, it's been moved and seconded to approve and adopt the consent agenda minus items one and 2.
09:20:13 All in favor indicate by saying aye. I. All right. Onwards.
09:20:16 Bye.
09:20:21 So, let's talk a little bit about our 959 moment of silent.
09:20:27 It's been shifting a little bit. So originally we were planning to go out at 9 45 and I don't know I saw a note from the under sheriff too that There was still a gathering at
9 45 so we might take a brief recess and see if there are people gathered out there and those of us in person go out so we'll be a little flexible but we will all hear on zoom and in
09:20:45 the room join in for the moment of silence at 9 59 for the bells to ring and that gathering will be at the bell tower though.
09:20:55 Yes. So we'll make a brief recess just to see. Go down the road. With the bell tower. Were not the bell tower?
09:21:01 No, the bell tower is the. Well, maybe hold that belt out. I don't know which.
09:21:08 The Red Bell Tower. Yeah. Oh. On Taylor Street.
09:21:14 Interesting. Maybe that's. Yeah, that's probably. Okay.
09:21:24 Okay. Well, we'll do, we can do, we can do a minute of silence here too I think we'll be okay well so we won't we won't recess after And then we do have a fairly light agenda.
09:21:36 So hopefully by the at the lunch hour we will break. We'll adjourn for the day is the plan.
09:21:41 But we do have a. An executive session at 1130 till. To lunch. Sorry, I said Taylor Street, but I meant Tyler.
09:21:48 I've done that since I was 10 years old. Yeah.
09:21:51 Yeah, just a scheduling. I might be in and out a little bit. So if you see me drop off, I might still be listening in but.
09:22:00 I have to come in and out just wait then doctor schedules of course.
09:22:04 No problem. It's a fairly light day, so. Should we go into a briefing from last week?
09:22:13 Thanks for that. There's a proclamation and there's nobody here representing that proclamation.
09:22:18 Well, let's do it after we close Polycom at 9 30. So we can at least get through some calendaring.
09:22:26 Who would like to, you, Kate, do you wanna look at your past week?
09:22:31 Sure, it'll take me a minute to get there.
09:22:34 If you're queued up.
09:22:38 Let me check.
09:22:41 Let Kate go first. Okay.
09:22:43 Okay, I am ready. Let's see. So we had a, short week last week.
09:22:53 Awesome Monday for the Labor Day holiday. Here with you all on Tuesday. That always turns off my schedule.
09:23:01 Missed a number of other important meetings that day, but. Had a, commissioners from a commissioner from Palm County and to commissioner from Island County come over and meet
with Hossack staff.
09:23:16 After our meeting on Tuesday, we had a dinner together and like talking about how, how to kind of work on, the.
09:23:26 What's feeling like a very polarized, association of county is right now. And apparently this is nothing new, historically, they're every, you know.
09:23:35 10 or 20 years to go through these kind of swings of the pendulum more and more polarized.
09:23:41 But you know, Les, I really want to see how we can come back together and identify the shared concerns that we do have while recognizing that there are, you know, going to be
things on the fringes that we don't share.
09:23:56 And so that's been a little bit. You know, taking up a fair amount of time.
09:24:01 A lot of. Hard conversations. Differences of opinion and But I'd say Wassex doing a really good job of it.
09:24:11 It's a little tricky with Eric Johnson leaving WASSAGE, of it. It's a little tricky with Eric Johnson leaving WASAGE because I think he is working through, partisanship.
09:24:20 So we have him around for a few more months.
09:24:21 Hey, the helm is such a calming unifying influence. That's, I wonder how much his departure is.
09:24:30 A catalyst for this, attention.
09:24:32 Yeah, and it's really hard for the organization to know how to move forward. You know, if indeed King County were to pull out the funding model would be very different.
09:24:44 So they don't know how, you know, how many positions to fill within the organization. So it's stressful.
09:24:52 For staff and you know being fairly close in leadership there. It's definitely feeling the strain of all these issues kind of culminating at once so stay tuned they're doing
a good job trying to Really listen and find a path through the dark forest to the other side, but we're still in the dark forest for sure.
09:25:17 Let's see, had a meeting with the public sector cabinet and Mark Samson's I filled in.
09:25:27 And for the economic development council that is, and that, went well, generally agreement that is, and that, went well, generally agreement that, That's the EDC wants to really
function as a separate nonprofit and not be a function of government even though.
09:25:45 Governments are providing public funding and want to have some accountability for that funding. I was pleased that there was agreement that it needs to be recognized as, an
independent nonprofit and operating as such.
09:26:00 I had a couple good phone calls about the, fairgrounds board. Our annual meeting is coming up.
09:26:06 There'll be some vacancy. So trying to fill those positions and You know, it's just, it's a startup and all the challenges they're in.
09:26:14 But definitely looking for people with some, management, financial, legal. Experience. So if you think of anyone that might be a good fit for the fair grounds, please let me
know.
09:26:29 We are currently recruiting. Thursday had a meeting with, Paul Jewel and Brad Puck.
09:26:38 Again, kind of struggling to come up with. Best process for creating our legislative agenda, given the, polarization that we experienced last year.
09:26:52 We did, we were very successful with a legislative agenda ultimately, We end up with a lot of a lot of outliers in terms of issues that people want the LSC to take on and so
we're really trying to find that middle grounds, what are the things that we all share.
09:27:05 In the defense, behavioral health concerns. Roads funding, you know, there are things that are not part of an issue.
09:27:14 So, trying to find those things that we can be most effective all pull in together on. So we've a meeting on September 20 first day long meeting in.
09:27:22 Ellen's bird or will be. Trying to, unless you will be finalizing their proposed legislative agenda to the.
09:27:31 That will go before the OSEC membership in November at our in person conference.
09:27:39 Let's see. At a meeting of our healthier together. Steering committee.
09:27:47 Monte, I was glad to hear you and Matt are meeting with Kerry Heights. I believe.
09:27:55 You know, I think one of the issues we're working on is trying to figure out if we can.
09:28:01 Find a way to fund some improvements in the county. You know, definitely hearing that folks are really concerned.
09:28:11 Project. And so, and I think if we can. Land on a financing model that allows for potentially, IMPROVEMENTS at HQ, or something else that would have more direct.
09:28:25 To the. To county residents were in favor of that. So,'s gonna come up with Kerry, I imagine.
09:28:38 Had a municipal research service center board meeting on Friday morning. And. I'm gonna see, got additional funding from the legislature the first time in many years the base
funding was increased and so they are looking to.
09:28:54 Expand services provided and we did a lot of work and trained to decide what the, priorities would be.
09:29:02 Something that came up include more technical assistance on affordable housing and homeless projects. More interpretation of new legislation, which is interesting.
09:29:18 Greg, thought of our process with the Housing Fund Board of trying to make sense of the changes made to Marius.
09:29:22 In the last session and you that as an example of where. I can do that. Remember the other priorities off top of my head.
09:29:33 With Monty sitting there, I will say that, the rosters and I see rosters are going statewide that's going to become especially our statewide roster system not we still need
to pay to use it but it's will not be considered kind of only member based since you still have to pay for it I'm not sure exactly what that distinction is but it has been christened
by
09:29:57 the legislature as the official state roster. And, It'll also be setting up an e-bitting system, that can be used statewide, to switch bidding processes to, entirely electronic.
09:30:12 So interesting work there. So they're always innovating and, really appreciate the work that they do.
09:30:20 I heard about the new child empathy center, which, I had not been familiar with previously then.
09:30:26 Prosecuting attorney's office. indicate the need for more, advocacy for children who are within the criminal justice system and this is specifically law enforcement involved.
09:30:42 Dependency or some of the other ways that they come in to are true and see other ways that they come into the system but specifically law enforcement and really great that a
number of partners of law enforcement agencies, prosecuting attorneys office, department of children, youth and families.
09:30:58 They are all. Meeting collectively once a month and doing kind of case work. With children who are in the legal system and Y.M.C.A. is currently staffing that.
09:31:15 So under Tony, Barnett is a child advocate and, They are gonna be looking for a home.
09:31:24 Currently they're just. I think that position will stay within working under 10, same from the line that they need a physical space and, so you're very well might be hearing
from.
09:31:35 Jessica, wanna find her last name here. Just, you might be hearing from her to learn more about it, but I think it's a great, trauma informed approach, especially working with
children in the system.
09:31:49 We know are extremely vulnerable.
09:31:52 And I'm sorry to miss the community outreach. I reach meeting in Brendan on Friday.
09:32:00 I'd love to hear that from both of you. I'd love to hear from both of you on that.
09:32:02 And that was my week.
09:32:03 Great. Thank you, Kate. Busy short week. Oh, gotcha.
09:32:08 We are having issues with AV capture this morning. So folks are joining us on zoom. It'll be fine.
09:32:14 And if you're joining on AV capture, I guess you probably aren't. So hopefully you can find it with your way to Zoom, but it will be recorded and available after the fact.
09:32:21 It is 9 30 now. I'll make one more call for a public comment if anyone is moved to add to the conversation.
09:32:30 At this point you can hit raise hand or star 9 if you're on the phone.
09:32:35 One last call for public comment and. Seeing none, I will close public comment and we'll move on to our proclamation.
09:32:45 So we have a proclamation proclaiming September the eleventh, 2,023 is national day of service.
09:32:51 How about Kate, Heidi and me? Do you guys want to read through this and then discuss?
09:32:57 Go ahead.
09:32:59 And just. Yeah, I'm seeing that, and remembrance, correct? Is that the right version?
09:33:05 Thank you. Yes.
09:33:07 Okay, thank you. A proclamation, National Day of Service and Remembrance. Whereas, 22 years ago, the United States endured one of the most unconscionable tragedies in our nations.
09:33:18 Our country's history. The cowardly terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center at the Pentagon and on board United Flight 93 cut short the lives of 2,977 innocent people.
09:33:29 These attacks tore a whole in the heart of our nation and the pain of this tragedy still remains. Each year on the summer date.
09:33:37 We remember the horror and bravery shown that day just as we remember how we came together. United in grief and in purpose.
09:33:43 Each year we renew our solemn vow to never forget what happened on September eleventh, 2,001 for those who lost their lives and
09:33:51 Whereas we also remember the Patriotism and Valor of our service members who pursued our attackers.
09:33:58 Deliver justice to Osama bin Laden and degraded Al Qaeda and Whereas over the last 2 decades, the American people have demonstrated that the harder the circumstances, the more
resilient and stronger we become.
09:34:10 Our shared love of country and our shared values regardless of race, gender, religion, origin, or economic status, unite us as Americans against all enemies, foreign and domestic,
and
09:34:21 Whereas Congress has requested the observance of September eleventh as an annually recognized National Day of Service and Remembrance and.
09:34:29 Whereas on this National Day of Service and Remembrance, we honor every life that was taken too soon.
09:34:35 We honor their first responders, firefighters, law enforcement officers, emergency workers, and service members who answered the call of duty.
09:34:44 And the Braise civilians who rushed into action to save lives that day. Their courage embodies the American spirit and resilience and their heroism continues to inspire new
generations of Americans.
09:34:56 Now therefore, the Jefferson County Board of County Commissioners does hereby proclaim September eleventh, 2,023 as National Day of Service and Remembrance in Jefferson County
and encourages all residents to join us in observation of this important day.
09:35:10 Proclaimed this eleventh day of September, I'll move that, where do we discuss first number?
09:35:19 I'll move that we. Adopt this proclamation. For a national day of service and remembrance.
09:35:26 I will second.
09:35:27 Okay. It's been moved and seconded. All in favor indicate by Aye. Alright.
09:35:32 Hi.
09:35:34 Hi, thoughts? I mean, I think I said this every time we've read this proclamation, but.
09:35:40 I will never forget the exact place I was the moment I heard about these attacks and. When we read these proclamations.
09:35:52 Comes comes right back. So it was a devastating moment, our moments in our nation's history and.
09:36:01 It's a really important thing for us to remember.
09:36:05 Anything?
09:36:07 Yeah, I wanna acknowledge that our, our law enforcement team had a very difficult night and our probably still working on an active case that is.
09:36:18 6 extremely challenging and I I am reminded often when we hear about, you know, things happening locally or something like September eleventh that There are people who literally
run into, you know, burning buildings.
09:36:35 They run right into crime scenes and. That is. Takes a certain type of person and we're very, very grateful that they are willing to do that.
09:36:47 And I the trauma that they endure in the course of that work and the things that they see most of us can't even imagine.
09:36:54 Just really grateful that their people. Out there doing that work. That we all benefit from and I do just want to say too it's interesting as September eleventh or
09:37:04 You know, it was so, it was so shocking, but I don't think we had any idea how much the world changed from that moment on, you know, and it's only 22 years later, still seeing.
09:37:14 How the kind of major conflict in the in the world has continued to be. This. Question of what is the the role of America in the West and progress and account in democracy and
capitalism and You know, I just, I had.
09:37:41 I think it was such a wake up call for Americans to say, oh, the rest of the world doesn't necessarily think that we're on the right track and you know we have continued to
grapple with that.
09:37:51 In pretty much every way, whether it's military intervention or within our own countries. kind of dialogue about our role in the world and So it has defined.
09:38:06 Pretty much my entire adulthood now and it is. You know, I think still the the question of.
09:38:13 Our geopolitical times.
09:38:17 Thanks, Kate. With everything you guys said, you know, it's It's the first time that friends that I knew lost parents and siblings and as first line first responders and it's
it's not just the first responders that we honor all the time and should honor.
09:38:36 I mean is what I'm saying. But those that took it on themselves to go in and help other people.
09:38:41 I think it's, it was, That response was. Yeah, what America is all about to me.
09:38:48 I think a concept I learned in the anti-racist class I'm taking too is simultaneously and it's also true I agree Mr. Chair with Mr. Cheers that the Patriot Act was an over steer
and I think it's it's important to remember the incident that scarred me is it I like Heidi remember exactly where I was when that first collision happened and everything changed.
09:39:14 And,
09:39:18 Yeah, no, it's, it's still with us all. So it's important to remember and also important to help us.
09:39:26 You know, we've just been through a pandemic too where there was some over steering and some things we got right and some things we got wrong and and I think it's always important
to keep the values that gird us.
09:39:39 Yeah. Yeah, I was in the ferry line. Yeah. I was at work.
09:39:48 US Bank Tower, downtown Seattle.
09:39:50 Okay, well. We still have a few minutes before our moment of silence at 9 59 to honor this so I guess we can go on.
09:40:03 And do you want to look at your share? Past week and give us a little briefing. Sure.
09:40:13 So last week I was here with you guys on Tuesday.
09:40:18 And after that I went to the Marine Resources Committee meeting and it was in person, which does still feel like novelty items to me in person meetings and and Point Hudson,
which is great.
09:40:34 And I'd say that the the bring back to the team message from the MRC is that They're grateful for additional time to.
09:40:46 Collect their comments regarding the shoreline master program update. Yeah. In the response to the. No, no, yeah.
09:40:56 Yeah. So anyway, they've formed a subcommittee to. Compile those comments and are working through the process.
09:41:04 Is it all of the SNP or the changes that were made to the aquaculture section specifically?
09:41:10 Mostly focused on the aquaculture section. I think there are a few other comments, but.
09:41:13 That's where I would say 90% of the conversation. Yeah, yeah.
09:41:19 And process. Yeah. I mean, I actually, I would say it's more like.
09:41:25 60% aquaculture, 40% process comments. Yeah, there were some problems along the way.
09:41:33 Yeah. So then on Wednesday, I had an early morning meeting with the Department of Ecology and I've agreed to be on.
09:41:41 A model ordinance committee for. Model ordinances to discourage organic material. Disposal and landfills.
09:41:51 So I've been working with Al Cairns and we agreed that it would probably be a good use of my time to sit on this.
09:41:57 Task Force to develop these model ordinances. So raise my hand for that one. I felt like Wednesday I joined 3 or 4 more committees.
09:42:06 So we're going the other way. I know I was trying to jettison some but there you go.
09:42:11 And then we had our strategic planning check in and we are at final draft and we're collecting signatures for the plan.
09:42:19 So if you haven't. Stepped into. In the commissioner's office county leaders please use the county Special PIN, special PIN, sharpie, and sign in the little gray box.
09:42:34 Anyway, it will be good to get that finalized and out to the community and Wendy, Davis, and I went on KPDC on Friday and.
09:42:43 Gave it a little preview of our strategic plan and. Had a good show with. Jim over at KPTC on Friday, so.
09:42:53 I had a meeting with some advocates on forestry issues and You know, I feel like, we're kind of ahead of.
09:43:03 Ahead of a lot of the rest of the counties and developing a collaborative relationship, working with DNR and there's some consternation about that like how did you do that and
Trying to provide as much guidance, but also.
09:43:19 Saying you really had to be there. You had to walk through the. Walk the path with the team.
09:43:24 To get to this level of collaboration with DNR. So I, I don't really know how people can make makeup, can audit that experience.
09:43:33 At this point, but happy to help other counties think that through. We had our Jefferson Transit Authority audit exit interview with our Otter State Auditor's Office and I mean
I just have to say that transit team they got glowing reviews from the state auditor just.
09:43:53 Miranda and, Nicole and everyone, everyone on the team at transit is doing a stellar job and all on all fronts, but.
09:44:02 Blowless audit for transit. Excellent. Then it was interesting to go to the transit advisory group and your place, Kate.
09:44:10 Just had never sat with that group of folks and The take home message here is they need more members.
09:44:18 So I'm saying that out loud, out loud, folks. We need more transit advisory group. If you ever bitch about transit.
09:44:27 Show up for the transit advisory group and and you'll have a more rigid audience. But I would say that.
09:44:35 Transit the transit advisory group it was interesting you know Some people were like, the buses are all driving around with 2 people on them.
09:44:44 I'm like, hey, wait a second. The last 2 buses I I wrote and from Hadlock were Pretty much, 75% full.
09:44:52 So, you know, it's the Brennan run and the havoc, the triereal loop that morning commuters over morning commute runs, but not all the buses are empty.
09:45:00 So I'm just here to say they're not all empty, but some of them are. You know, some buses that run more frequently, the shuttle, you know, that's kind of the purpose, just regularly
moving people through the community and when you see an empty bus it might only be empty because it just offloaded 10 people at QFC or the hospital.
09:45:18 And it's driving down. Sheridan Street empty until it gets to the Hayes place, you know, it's just it.
09:45:26 Perspective, right? Or timing and perspective. So the buses are not all MD and, and Nicole provided some data on.
09:45:34 Recent, kind of the 2019 numbers and the 2022 numbers and the 2023 numbers and we are seeing ourselves.
09:45:43 Inch back up in terms of ridership. Almost. 2,019. Right, right.
09:45:49 So anyway, even though is it right that Almost all the fares are free right now. You can get up any bus.
09:45:59 You can get on any bus. 0 fares on buses except for route 14. I think it's free free.
09:46:04 And now there's there's all 0 talking 0 fair. So I'm Supporting the team 0 fair except for except for route 14 which is the Kingsted Express Anyway, which is a really fun way
to get to Seattle, by the way.
09:46:17 Ted wants to be free fair. Yeah. Oh no, Tag doesn't. No.
09:46:21 I think we're all on the 0 fair. Trying to support the team. So let's see.
09:46:27 Then. I went on Thursday morning, went to the quilting food bank ground breaking breaking in Greg's place and.
09:46:39 I would say inspiring. Wonderful group of volunteers got some more input about DCD not not good input and I'm just like oh That's on every front, I feel like, but I feel.
09:46:55 Not a lot of positive input recently too. Good. Yeah, and I feel like I always just stick up for the team.
09:47:00 I mean, we're in a rebuilding phase at DCD, so. But there are some questions and concerns from the community.
09:47:07 As you can imagine. Showed up for the hospital groundbreaking, but they were running late and I was wanting to be early to the Woodenboat Festival locals only nights on Thursday
so that the groundbreaking till about 4 30 and then headed down to festival and.
09:47:25 I would say that festival felt back to me. Pierre Garden was full. Docs were full.
09:47:35 I mean, everything was. Very busy at festival. I haven't gotten an official report from Barb Trailer, but.
09:47:42 Plans to be one of my first. Reach out this morning in a moment of. And a break.
09:47:49 If we get a break today, that's where I'm going to find out how I went.
09:47:55 So I did not attend the Jefferson County, Peninsula Trails Coalition meeting.
09:48:01 On Thursday night. Friday I had breakfast with Cindy Brooks from the EDC just to check in with her.
09:48:08 See how things are going and they're still trying to fill that operations manager position. So if anybody has any ideas, they have.
09:48:18 Upgraded the position from an administrative assistant to an operations manager to give it a little more salary and it's a full time.
09:48:24 Position and I think Cindy and Douglas are a great team so it'd be supporting excellent work in the community.
09:48:32 So just wanted to say that out loud in here. Then as I mentioned earlier was on KPTZ.
09:48:40 With Wendy Davis and talking about our strategic plan and then also talking about the the new reader board we saw on Sims way when we came down the hill that Sims way is gonna
be closed.
09:48:52 Thanks to Washington State Department of Transportation. For the roundabout at Kearney at the penny saver roundabout.
09:49:00 Starting tomorrow for about 2 months. So we're just, to remind the community as many as and then he.
09:49:09 Places as we can that this is happening starting tomorrow and they have I went on their website they have a Convoluted detour.
09:49:17 Yeah. Discovery road project starting in less than a month. I think it is. Okay, unless it got delayed, I don't know.
09:49:31 I just got, I read a note today that it was starting like October fifth. So, okay.
09:49:33 I assume that would be the big detour route for since. The commissioners plan extra time on your commute in.
09:49:35 Yeah, I mean, there's a West that can't walk there yet. Yeah. Anyway, so starting tomorrow, Sims way will be.
09:49:42 Traffic will be modified. And then.
09:49:48 I did not go to the Public Land Steering Committee meeting on Friday, but I did raise my hand to sit on that again.
09:49:55 The federal public land steering committee and also the federal issues committee for wassac so just saying that out loud here I, volunteered to.
09:50:05 Help on those 2 fronts. And I mean, I think I feel like the Federal Issues Committee is important and our advocacy for pilt and secure world schools needs to continue.
09:50:16 So. Anyway. I'm reacting for those. And then.
09:50:23 Headed down to Brennan for the Brandon Community Outreach meeting and yes, Commissioner Brother 10 wins the award.
09:50:29 Attendance at his community outreach meetings far exceed all of the other community outreach committee committee.
09:50:37 Report listings. Number 2. B. Combined.
09:50:41 Yeah, yeah, this one. Yes, last time all of them combined. Yes, yep, all of them combined.
09:50:46 Yeah, yep, all of them combined. So, but I felt like it was good. There wasn't just a a room full of shaking fists.
09:50:52 It was yeah people with you know concerns and questions and we had all the right people in the room to address the concerns and questions.
09:50:59 So I feel like those are valuable meetings when people do show up and people did show up on Friday in Brennan.
09:51:05 I think I got my second ever in person compliment as a commissioner there. So, more in person where someone.
09:51:15 Thank you. I'm kidding texts about the detour in the roundabout. Oh, and then there's a sunken boat and hat block.
09:51:24 Okay. But you know, I, I feel like so one pulled me aside and said I want to.
09:51:30 I was like, oh, that was sweet. So I'll end on that note. That's great.
09:51:36 And on a sweet note.
09:51:38 Alright, thank you Heidi. I will whip through my week here. 7Â min, 8Â min.
09:51:45 See, of course, with you guys on Tuesday, big thing I did meet with Kerry Height from the Healthier Together.
09:51:53 And on that Port Townsend Centric. Come on, I gave her, I suggested that they don't give up that you don't that we don't give up on the NPD idea that Poor towns has gotta have
the a hit for the rest of the county to really.
09:52:10 Engage with the PFD with an upload on a PFD. That's what I That was my takeaway.
09:52:17 I mean, I heard.
09:52:17 Hi, that was that was great feedback and appreciated, you know, bringing a mother kind of solution to the table.
09:52:26 I had to leave our meeting early. I'm not sure if any. Decision was made about your suggestion that I it was definitely talked about and Thank you.
09:52:35 Yeah, no, I mean, just from a, you know, limited perspective, but from outside 4 towns and then, I think all the people on the team are.
09:52:44 For town and residents, right?
09:52:49 There's at least one who's not, but yeah, primarily.
09:52:52 Yeah, yeah. But I still, I want this project to work. So looking, looking for, yeah, but it was great to talk to her and hear more about it and I still I think the design they've
come up with is It's really appropriate for the space and flexible.
09:53:07 So. In favor of the project still. I could not attend the quilting food bank groundbreaking on Thursday because I had the O 3 A, our annual meeting in person down at the cotton
building.
09:53:21 It was great. We had the annual review of our executive director, Louis Boy, and
09:53:28 Flying colors and should, you know. S the contract and you know, we're one of the only triple A's in the state if not the only that is fully staffed right.
09:53:40 Largely at the cost of all the cap being, but yes, it's great. So they're doing really, really good work.
09:53:49 Yeah, happy happy with how it's going there. I was at the first hour of the Enric round table that they had in Port Angelus on Thursday.
09:54:00 I was there, we is Zoom, the natural resource innovation center, largely led by the EDC and the planning grant that they got.
09:54:06 It was great to see a bunch of the natural resource vendors, forest product, you know, everyone from CR Pacific to small mills and everything and Some really exciting projects
there.
09:54:19 Not sure how it will all nest. I was there of course to kind of Just understand the coalition better.
09:54:27 We, as we, as you know, I fought as hard as I could against an RFP process and now we have an open RFP for everyone that's due September eighteenth and if you guys want it I'll
I can send it to you.
09:54:37 I've said it to the port and the city was wondering if they should submit one but our Glen Cove one really supports city infrastructure.
09:54:46 So I think they're gonna delay. Apparently the bell for remember remember remembrance was just run.
09:54:51 So 5Â min early, it looks like.
09:54:55 The 9 59. Moment of silence. Should we take our moment of silence? I think we should.
09:55:01 Okay. Well, let's pause for a bit and we will sit here in session for 1Â min in remembrance of.
09:55:10 9 11 2,001 Those lost their lives and those who served.
09:56:11 Okay, thank you everyone. Tough for me to leave. A dead air, but good cause.
09:56:21 Alright. Move to say anything else appropriate. Said it all. Okay, onward.
09:56:34 Went to the Jefferson County accountability audit entrance entrance conference and just kind of. Second the ground rules and what they're going to do.
09:56:47 They are investigating the complaint against me from last campaign season. So that's one of the single audits is.
09:56:52 Conflict of interest and. What is it? Beneficial interest, you know, do you get?
09:56:58 Is, are we making decisions that we get beneficial interest from? So they do reply, respond to all complaints whether or not, hopefully.
09:57:07 We don't, dismantle community action programs in Washington state. But that will be one of the I think 6 different single.
09:57:16 Single business line audits. And then I sped out to Port Ludlow for the Port Ludlow Village Council.
09:57:24 And really just gave the presentation what was going on in the county and then had to turn around and. Run straight back for the Jefferson Healthcare groundbreaking.
09:57:34 And the delightful food that accompanied it. It was good. They didn't want to do golden shovels, so they had a mini excavator, but they didn't move them in the excavator or
take a corner out of the building.
09:57:45 So I'm like, you know, this is no sewer groundbreaking. People ask me if I was going to.
09:57:50 You got the skills now. But no, it was it was there for looks but interesting to talk a little bit with the some of the contractors, their kind of design, build ideas is very
different than we often do, but it seems pretty logical for this kind of.
09:58:08 Big building. So moving, you know. Building building the team before you get started and walking all the way through it with them.
09:58:16 So interesting, but they'll be. All out of the 1965 building this week. Start to knock it down, I think, next week.
09:58:27 Let's see. I was. Some pretty frustrated folks about.
09:58:34 Code violation issue. I was going to go ahead and visit them, but they called me off at the last minute and yeah, worked a little bit with Greg Ballard.
09:58:45 You know, I have gotten quite a few compliments about. Few issues as well, but compliments in the last couple weeks about improving efficiency and I know that they had the first
10 SDRs sent over to the consultants to see how they can actually move through the SDRs and if they get those done at that at a pace.
09:59:07 Then they can start pushing SDRs almost exclusively through the the consultant. So it's pretty exciting.
09:59:15 Went to the recompete task force. Our weekly meeting there. It's kind of taken most of my time and I pitched the 2 projects that were
09:59:26 I guess that I'm applying for in the RFP process with our task force, the the Glenn Coe project.
09:59:32 And the. And the bread and sewer.
09:59:38 And both were received very well. It's like we might have lost Kate. Do you want to let me keep you guys abreast of how this is developing?
09:59:47 With the Brennan sewer project to be eligible for recompete, it was a little tough to get the project which is completely nebulous and can be still.
10:00:00 Aligned with the criteria which is good paying jobs, $26 and over for prime age employment gap.
10:00:07 So the focus I have taken right now is to really focus on entrepreneurs and the nexus with the pleasant harbor master plan resort which is starting to develop and talk about
entrepreneurial opportunity.
10:00:23 There's a lot of, as we know, small mom and pop businesses down there that are hungry for the sewer already.
10:00:28 We have a lot of community support. So trying to. Unlock that and get some letters of support.
10:00:36 That have some specific data, you know, there's many that own properties in that Brennan core.
10:00:42 That would soon certainly be able to expand continue and it would create those. Maybe not for all their staff, but for the entrepreneurs.
10:00:51 The primates employment gap. F. Yeah, did you present a question? How that will be executed right now.
10:00:59 It's kind of a. Planning and let's figure it out. Which is phase one and phase 2 would likely be if it works with PD, have them take over this.
10:01:10 2 million dollars is what I put in there. Just. Pulling numbers out of the ether and then the Glencove one.
10:01:17 I am meeting tonight with a bunch of the business owners out there in Glen Cove and I included.
10:01:23 A representative sample of some. Some of the initial responses from the businesses, you know, most of which were, oh, this would allow us to double our footprint and hire more
people and we pay everyone over $26 an hour.
10:01:36 And then. 25% of the responses I had were
10:01:42 You're just gonna raise our money and for what storage facilities and raise our the amount that we have to pay and everything.
10:01:51 Early days, but there's qualified support so far, though of course always trepidation about costs and a lot of trepidation initially too about the possibility of annexation.
10:02:01 So as we continue to work with the city, we want to make sure. I think we're upfront with that conversation and and create alternatives where it's viable for both the city and
county to move forward if it is annexed.
10:02:12 And and if it is not annexed. Is the idea. Then why did you say?
10:02:21 Yeah, great. If PED doesn't, I could see money's eyes grow wide if we were saying we were going to do it, right?
10:02:25 Another sewer project? I mean, we've got a deep sewer team, but I know they are kind of busy for the next couple of years.
10:02:33 So I would not. And we don't run sewers and that's really what this is.
10:02:37 It's an existing store, a little bit of engineering to connect, but I mean right now it's it's farmed out to a consultant, a company out of Brimmerton I think manages the sewer
now.
10:02:47 But it's really management of this. Most infrastructure is already in place. It goes right through the Lammert.
10:02:54 Figuring that out at the community meeting I lamented their lack of support for the floodplain exploration and the possible grant funding that we turned down where we declined
to Seek saying that we're probably gonna have to still do that.
10:03:09 You know, we have to do due diligence on our side too and make sure that it's reasonable as we explore, utilizing, I could send a bill, 52 75 from last year that.
10:03:20 Allows. Senator Schartzpell. I've just been justified on it. Nice.
10:03:24 It allows, yeah, more flexibility and lament. And I think it seems like it would even allow.
10:03:28 Her, level of infrastructure and a, so that's that the the attack that we'll try to take.
10:03:36 Actually, I think I testified in the year before and Kate testified on it last year. And then I was also with a community outreach meeting with Heidi and, Most of our electors
and directors and it was well attended.
10:03:52 I think They were very, I got a couple notes after that about the recompete thing.
10:03:58 They're very excited about the possibilities and I think we know no No heavy lift to get letters of support for that.
10:04:03 There. After full throat and they're supportive for things. And you know they've got just one side of the issue to to Comicon and we've got a balance and I think they spend
a lot of time trying to balance that.
10:04:19 You know, I mean, there's a lot of desire to. Keep the second floor of the community center going as they put on a new roof and That's probably not practical.
10:04:29 You know, just trying to be honest with with our constituents about things that we can do, things that we can't do.
10:04:35 Lot of call for law enforcement at that meeting too. Under sheriff did. Preview that they might make a request.
10:04:45 Only 25 budget. Yeah. For a South County officer. I mean, that's a 40Â HA week.
10:04:52 You know, that's not like you're gonna get instant service down there, but We used to have one and I think as areas grow it makes sense to consider it just, you know.
10:05:01 What's the, how's the balance? Is, is always the question.
10:05:06 What's the second story thing? I mean, I keep hearing about it when it will. I don't hear about it a lot, but when I hear about it, I'm is what's the reason that we have to
take the second story off.
10:05:17 That court can say more, but even when I was Tom Boatman, was he the facilities?
10:05:23 That since the facility then? Tom Boatman? Walker. When I first was here he had done a lot of engineering on it.
10:05:33 They used to be a motel that the county managed for a while and then a third party managed it.
10:05:37 That didn't really go well. It's not really our daily week to have a hotel, you know, as a county enterprise.
10:05:43 And then it's been so long just a community center that it would be a rezone to do it.
10:05:50 I mean, it's not zone for residential at all anymore, a commercial residential or commercial even, I don't think.
10:05:56 And the, you couldn't repair the second floor because there are, functional. Deficiency.
10:06:07 You know there's like one corner of it's like propped up and okay it had to be jacked up. It's like propped up and okay. It had to be jacked up.
10:06:10 So there's a bunch of I think the might be as best. I, it's just like it's a, okay.
10:06:14 It's a bad third reason makes the most sense to me. The cost structural, you know, complexity.
10:06:21 And also the cost of. Repairing it like the 1 million and a half to replace it with a roof to replace it with a new Hotel would be, you know, 5 times the cost.
10:06:34 I don't know. 5 times the cost. Is that a reasonable? 10 times the cost.
10:06:37 A 100 times the cost. But more.
10:06:43 Okay, any other takeaways from the community? Are Kate not even with us right now? Hmm.
10:06:53 No, I mean, I, I heard the concerns about law enforcement and South County and Totally.
10:07:01 Makes sense to me. So I mean, I think when we hear that that budget proposal, I hope we can all get behind it.
10:07:07 I mean, it Makes a lot of sense when someone make calls. 9 1 one and it takes 45Â min for them to get a response that there's something critical happening that's Feels like
a lifetime.
10:07:19 So. Yeah, no, that was something that resonated for me for sure. But good group and they were respectful and polite.
10:07:30 . Alright, Monty, you want to tell us about your past week? Yeah, what was your thoughts about the community meeting
10:07:40 I was happy to be there. Yeah. Another night of the week might have been better. Friday nights.
10:07:53 You know, I, I don't have a lot to report. We've talked about sewer already.
10:07:58 It's going pretty well. I would just,
10:08:02 Maybe take a chance to just. Say that you know, staffing continues to be a concern for me.
10:08:09 We've, we've lost a number of our. Road crew folks. We have some of our solid waste folks going out.
10:08:15 Short of mechanics, which isn't. Public works, but we rely on them. So, Just an issue to be aware of, you know, DCD went through real low there on staffing.
10:08:30 Now it seems to be hitting. Maybe public works. And, DC is not stealing your staff, right?
10:08:42 They're not, other counties, you know, just a number of things are lining up to make it a challenge to stay fully staffed and deliver all the services that We normally, you
know, try to, try to deliver.
10:08:58 Couple of accomplishments are road crew finally wrapped up the summer's chip seal and fog seal program with a completion of the fog ceiling on coil road.
10:09:09 The big one. Yeah, it's 14 miles. 14 miles of road that's
10:09:14 The better part of our entire chip seal. Program this year. Because we don't do as much as we used to but we did do some chip ceiling in, Port Hadlock as well as, like Old 4
Towns and Road and a couple of others up the Mill Road.
10:09:30 But always a big accomplishment. To wrap that up. And they did a nice job and that's particularly
10:09:45 Good considering they had a lot of new folks on the crew this year. We had a changeover in leadership with Matt Stewart's departure.
10:09:52 But, You know, I don't know that everyone knows how much goes into a program like that.
10:09:59 It's a lot from the. Having the equipment ready to the training to the, you know. The supplies and everything to make that happen and it's Again, a really important part of
the road preservation, program.
10:10:17 And it's a pretty short window, yeah, has it kind of aligned with the fish passenger well you know you need warm weather to do chips ceiling and then you really need warm weather
after you chip sealed to let the traffic work in, you know, work to gravel into.
10:10:29 Oil that you know chips seal the day after looks like what is this a gravel road now but a couple of months later it doesn't look that way and a year later it looks different
so they evolve over a couple of years and.
10:10:41 So you need that warm weather to do that and then. And definitely when your fog, I mean, you just can't have any moisture.
10:10:49 You need warm weather to, cure the oils. You know, the oils are cut with water.
10:10:54 So basically it has to evaporate, to cure. How if like tires are kind of just in Less than 25% of the roadway, right?
10:11:03 That's a challenge with a chip seal. You know, they're used because they're cost-effective, the most cost-effective way of sealing a road and rejuvenating it, which is what
this is all about.
10:11:16 Like, skin moisturizer basically after you been out in the sun. Sons all cracked and everything.
10:11:24 But, yeah, I mean, you have the wheel paths and then you have the center lines.
10:11:31 So you're trying to find the, you know, shoot exactly the right. Rates of materials that are the best compromise essentially over the full width of the road.
10:11:40 You know we compact the full width of the road with various pieces of equipment when we're putting it down, but the wheel paths then take more of the.
10:11:50 You know, get more of the compaction from the traffic, right? So you got a and the heat of the undercarriage probably.
10:11:58 Yeah, I wonder if electric cars are going to change the chip ceiling algorithm.
10:12:05 You want to have the right rate so that you don't have the oil coming up through the rock in the wheel paths, but you're not losing rock, it's center line.
10:12:14 You know, a couple years ago, few 3, we had, some, Rock loss on the center line of a portion of center road that we did.
10:12:24 We're able to go back the next year and recote that with some quarter, smaller aggregate, and you can't tell that that happened, but you know.
10:12:32 They're particularly sensitive to snow plowing the first year and the center line again where it's received less traffic and be a real sensitive area.
10:12:41 So it's there's a lot of art that goes into it. We're lucky to have Still some experienced people on our team, but you know again many new people but some of our Couple of our
newer people are really.
10:12:58 Getting into it and and and
10:13:03 You know, picking up the torch, you know, where others.
10:13:08 Dropped it off so That's really great to see. You know, we need people like that.
10:13:18 We. Put another heavy fog seal on the HJ. Carroll parking lot, which really now looks like it should look.
10:13:29 If you recall, there was kind of a lot of loose Small rocks in there and now it's that's all been broomed and really nailed down with a heavy fog seal and then we spent air.
10:13:42 Who's, drafted up a parking layout that we actually had a surveyor. Take from the Autocad plan to the to the parking lot itself and lay down so that it's laid out very.
10:14:02 Very straight and neat and We had a car that had rolled off the edge of the parking lot into the fence of the jump playground this summer.
10:14:13 You know, we had to rebuild the fence and everything. So we were. We pulled the parking back from the edge of that slope and created a pedestrian walkway in front of the cars
so people don't have to walk behind them and we were able to do that again.
10:14:25 Take advantage of this. Reeseal project, we get those stripes down. So it looks really nice now.
10:14:33 You know, maybe a small thing, but I don't know. I think it's, you know, it's a heavily used park.
10:14:37 You saw it at the county picnic. There was not a parking spot to be had. Yeah.
10:14:42 So it's, you know, just great to see little things like that. Continue to.
10:14:48 I do happen around the county. Hold on 1Â s, Kate's had her hand up for a little bit.
10:14:53 Kate, did you have a question or comment on something we might have already passed.
10:14:56 Yeah, I've been hearing from some of my biking friends so much they hate chip ceiling.
10:15:06 And Any I guess you know I mean you you're a bike a cyclist too.
10:15:16 Do you have any thoughts on? How I guess any way to make shoulders, any, you know, smoother, better writing surface or as well that with time also, smooth out.
10:15:31 Yeah, that's a tough one. I mean, you know, chip seal is essential to preserving the roads and you see that the DOT who Didn't used to do any chip ceiling.
10:15:43 Now has is doing a lot of chip ceiling because it's the only way they can afford to take care of the roads.
10:15:52 You know, many of our roads, West Valley Road, for example, that thing was falling apart. It has virtually no shoulder to begin with.
10:16:03 So if you're on a bike, you're going to be out in the lane and that's where we need to put that ship seal down, you know, now the one concession we have made over the years
is on center road, which is a popular biking.
10:16:15 Destination for many people, many people from outside of the county is we're not ship sealing.
10:16:22 All of that wide shoulder were just fog sealing it and
10:16:28 But you can only do that about once because you're gonna end up with a ridge line between the driving lane and the shoulder there so
10:16:39 They smooth out. Over time, yes, although the shoulders where there's less traffic takes longer for the the material to smooth out.
10:16:49 I would say every road that everyone's been biking on for years and years was chip sealed at some point.
10:16:55 Not, they are not asphalt roads. These are all chip seal roads. So if you're biking on it and thought it was good before we chip sealed it.
10:17:03 It was already chip sealed. It's been a while, but it just, you know, over time, should I start driving on the shoulders of a new chip sealed road to sort of help the bike.
10:17:14 You could do that. Sure. So, I don't have a great answer for you, Commissioner Dean, other than like I said, all of the roads.
10:17:22 Do we haven't changed anything we're doing so all of these roads that people have been biking on for years.
10:17:29 Have been regularly chip sealed. You know several times before and that's what they've always been riding on.
10:17:38 And And we know again what the alternative looks like by looking at some of the streets in the city where ship ceiling hasn't happened.
10:17:50 And again, that's a funding issue, not a criticism of the city or their choices. It's just that they don't have a road fund like the county does, but those streets aren't very
fun to bike on either.
10:18:02 Because they're falling apart. So, it's you know, we just cannot afford to put asphalt down.
10:18:11 It's 10 times as expensive to put asphalt down on a road as a chip seal. And we're not keeping up with, even with.
10:18:20 Chip seal alone. We used to chip seal twice as many road miles per year as we're doing now.
10:18:27 Which was probably about the right pace. To really keep up with the degradation on the roads.
10:18:34 You know, they suggest 7 to 10 years. Cycle and chip seal. We're on a 15 to 20 year cycle with our chip seal now.
10:18:43 And it may go down from there because the costs are really going up. I mean, you know. Look at the price of gas at the pump.
10:18:50 You pretty much figure that's what's happening to. Asphalt products as well. And rock, you know, the rock for chip sealing this year came from.
10:18:59 Grace Harbor County. Wow. Used to be made right here in our county down the road. But it isn't anymore.
10:19:08 So, all the rock. In recent years has come from. Many miles away so the trucking for that gets more expensive.
10:19:16 Still a lot more cost effective than . So we just out of rock. I'm I'm curious about that comment.
10:19:25 I know our local
10:19:26 Orries won't make it because they it's a it's a not a high profit.
10:19:32 Morning product. It takes all of the good stuff out of the middle of the. Of the blend of rock that they're crushing and leaves them with a lot of sand, which isn't something
they can sell.
10:19:48 So for a number of reasons they won't. They won't make it. But I, you know, I wish I had a better answer for the.
10:19:57 Viking community, but I really. Don't. Because again it's what It's what.
10:20:07 Keeps the roads from falling apart, you know.
10:20:12 Any file update?
10:20:14 No, I, I responded similarly though not as eloquently. And you know, if you do damned if you don't, right?
10:20:26 Like, gonna make a lot of people unhappy if we don't ship regularly. So, You know, I think.
10:20:31 I remember Yep, go.
10:20:34 And just say that that, you know, I think it's also, a particular. You know, really that road cyclists who are most affected by it, you know, I ride with.
10:20:45 Gravel tires even on my road bike because I want to be able to do trails and you know, so it doesn't bother me as much, but, yes, I think it's a small segment of the population
that probably notices that most.
10:20:57 I was just gonna say I remember when we chip sealed coil road the last time which was 18 years ago.
10:21:04 And I was out there and I watched some cyclists go by and I thought, wow, that.
10:21:09 That doesn't look too fun. You know, right after his chip seal, like you say, it looks virtually like a gravel road, but for the last 18 years, People have been riding coil
road on on bikes and things and it's and I don't even know if many people knew it was chip sealed, but.
10:21:28 Course now it is again so it'll take a while to smooth back out for sure. But But again, that's why it's.
10:21:40 We do it because it's necessary to preserve those roads, you know. Would you remind me what fog ceiling is?
10:21:48 So, let me start by.
10:21:53 Saying what chip ceiling is, I mean, with chip seal, you spray down a heavy asphalt emulsion and then you, spread.
10:22:02 Rocks, chips. Into it and and roll them. And then traffic continues to roll them to. Embed them in that oil and then the trend in the industry in the last 15 years has been
to put a fog seal over the top of that which is a much lighter weight oil.
10:22:25 In a very low shot rate over the top that. Helps. Further. Lock the rock into place.
10:22:37 It's what turns a chip seal black from the top. So they fog seal every time in chips seal you fog seal.
10:22:41 And, yeah, final stage. Yeah, it helps the, it helps the rock. With rock retention.
10:22:49 Helps the stripes really pop and it also helps with rock embedded because it heats the road up so you get hotter road up so you get hotter road temperatures while the rock is
seating the road up so you get hotter road temperatures while the rock is seating into the oil.
10:23:03 You can use a fog seal also to just.
10:23:10 Steel asphalt surfaces it doesn't last as long as it chips a very low shot right and you can't put it on so heavy that it's going to create traction problems but you know you
can missed.
10:23:20 Asphalt with fog seal to. Help, help with the sealing it from water intrusion and stuff.
10:23:31 Is it the new road smell? Yeah, that new road smell exactly. Yeah. So anyway, that's what, .
10:23:41 Actually, I was out meeting with the rep from the oil company. He was the road superintendent for Mason County for many years and we were.
10:23:46 Talking about the benefits of fog ceiling and the. The test that they'd done Mason County to show the benefits of it on a chip seal for rock retention.
10:23:59 Things like that. So it's, you know, you see all of the chip seals that wash dotts doing are all fog sealed as well.
10:24:08 Thanks. Always get to dive into something when you're here, Monty. Yeah, thanks for indulging us.
10:24:14 If you ever wanna come out and. Right on the chip spreader during their putting her down. I do.
10:24:20 I'm gonna drive it. Okay, we'll get you up there with the behind Ricky Elvik and some of our others.
10:24:28 Yeah, no, I love that. I love it. I want to snowboard with, actually. I've got a, he's my, the one I want to be in there at 4 in the morning with I assume that you'll be super
grumpy with me.
10:24:37 That's my goal. We can make it happen. All right. Yeah. I mean, anytime.
10:24:40 Wake me up. Okay.
10:24:44 Oh, go, okay, she's not with us anymore. Maybe she's just trying to.
10:24:49 Turner Cameron? No, she's trying to come back over as a panelist. Yeah.
10:24:56 Hi, Kate. Sorry, we lost you again. Can you can you hear us okay?
10:24:59 Yeah, sorry, I've been I had to. Jump to my phone to go. Check on Rico, but I'm back.
10:25:06 No problem. Okay, well, shall we move on to calendaring and take a look at this coming week and see if we have any conflicts we need addressed.
10:25:19 Sure. It looks like, are you ready to go, Heidi? I, yeah, I can go.
10:25:30 Take her away. One thing that I failed to mention and briefing was that I did submit a proposal.
10:25:35 For the WASAC conference in November to talk about our collaborative forestry work with DNR.
10:25:41 And so they have accepted that proposal and Sarah from DNR, the Trust Outreach Specialist will be co-presenting with me and potentially Mallory too if I can get her but Just
to kind of give a Look back at what we've been doing for the last couple of years and .
10:26:02 Yeah. So So get your tickets if you're interested. Conference here, I think is all I can bear.
10:26:12 Let's see, so tonight. This week there's something every night. Again, something every night.
10:26:20 So maybe I won't be here during the day. No, I'm just kidding. This evening I have a joined a subcommittee of the MRC around member recruitment so We have our meeting, this
evening.
10:26:33 Still have like 23 members. Yeah, but there's some recruit some positions that need recruitment, heads together for recruitment.
10:26:44 Then I'm gonna go out to the organic seed alliance community day at Fen River, which is always a super fun.
10:26:50 Moment in time in the fall. When they're harvesting and. A lot of folks join for that.
10:26:57 So I hope to hope to make. Make it out there this later in the evening. And then tomorrow.
10:27:04 I have the tourism coordinating. Cancel meeting and part Ludlow in the afternoon.
10:27:12 And I will not be attending the Behavioral Health Advisory Committee meeting. Aslan Palmer from the city is going to.
10:27:18 Chair that meeting so I've had a pre meeting about that with. Anna and And then.
10:27:31 After the TCC meeting I'll come back to the HJ Carroll Park for Jefferson County Human Services, coordinator meetup.
10:27:40 And that's a gathering that's hosted by both Tanya Barnett from Y.M.C.A. and Jen King Fisher from the Community Foundation.
10:27:49 It's always a big table of community. Community-facing organizations in a really good conversation. Yeah, it would be our first in person.
10:28:00 Yeah. And I always get rid of it to that too, but I will not go. Or we could just listen.
10:28:07 Yeah, okay. Tomorrow I have a conference planning meeting with the Northwest Straits Commission.
10:28:18 I'm having, they have a conference here in Port Townsend at the Maritime Center, November third and fourth.
10:28:24 And I'm helping with that. Events, mostly in honor of my dear, deceased friend, Caroline Gibson, who The whole time I was running for office said, we'll get to be on the conference
planning committee meeting.
10:28:39 Conference planning committee together. And so I showed up there. I'm like, I'm here because of Carolyn.
10:28:43 I'm here for Carolina nice. I'm hoping to. I will not be able to bring the level of fun that she could, but I'm I'm representing in her honor this year and Probably in the future
as well.
10:28:55 Then when's, oh, that's. That's Wednesday. And then, Wednesday evening we have the Peninsula Trails Coalition meeting here in Jefferson County and Carolyn is going to go with
me.
10:29:09 And they've requested use of our owl, so we're taking our owl and setting it up at the Fred Lewis scout cabin.
10:29:16 That's Wednesday. You said you could go with me. Okay, Wednesday evening. 50'clock.
10:29:26 And then. And Thursday I'm meeting with Terry McCauley from the Historical Society.
10:29:31 Regarding her, she's joined the LTAC committee and just has questions. I'm just gonna sit down with her.
10:29:38 At the noon hour and then. Once our Thursday evening we have our community outreach meeting and And then Thursday or Friday morning, I'm getting up at the crack of Don and driving
out to Nia Bay for the Olympic coast sack meeting.
10:29:56 And I remember. Yeah, and I remember David Sullivan saying with the best the best thing about Any of the committees is when you get to go somewhere with ZAC and I'm like, I
haven't yet.
10:30:07 So here I am, into my third year and I'm gonna head out there. Thinking Ike and the dogs and we are going to stay the night in Nia Bay.
10:30:16 And come back Saturday morning. and then Saturday, I just have some community. Events to attend.
10:30:26 So.
10:30:28 That's this week. I think I got everything. Was there anything else in the evening? No, I gave you all.
10:30:34 Gave you everything. Alright, Kate, you wanna take a look through your calendar?
10:30:39 Yeah. Everything's a little bit tentative this week, but I'll tell you my aspirations.
10:30:47 Hoping to be down at the Skakomish Tribal Center all day tomorrow with the Pgetown Partnership Leadership Council.
10:30:57 Dave Herrera is being appointed to the leadership council which is very exciting. Okay.
10:31:02 He's always really impressive too. Like you've got the history and Yeah, it's great.
10:31:07 Yeah, yeah. We will be presenting, so the HOOK KNOW coordinating council is kind of the host local integrating organization.
10:31:17 For the leadership council moves around the region and so canal is posting this month and I'll be on a panel with a number of other folks talking about the need for better.
10:31:31 Regional planning as, you know, so much infrastructure funding coming right now and you know, people really wanting these projects to be.
10:31:41 Both shovel ready, but more importantly, I think is having communities in agreement around. What, you know, benefits and how, project should unfold and so one of the things
that the coordinating council is presenting on is the need for more coordinated regional planning including community engagement frameworks that include things like what we call in
the the PPC and partnership world, human well being, which includes economic factors and.
10:32:14 That the partnership has recently hired more social science scientists. And so we're gonna be using Brendan as a case study actually to talk about the challenges of you know
when you have the perception of environmental.
10:32:30 Need coupled with you know folks who feel that their homes and livelihoods are potentially at risk.
10:32:39 And projects that could potentially, you know, make, make economic, kind of sustainability and a community more challenging.
10:32:49 Yeah.
10:32:50 That's you know we need better ways to talk about this and so should be an interesting conversation.
10:33:01 I don't I don't know that will come to any solutions but it's a good brain trust to be running these things by and the leadership councils in a position to advocate for.
10:33:06 Additional funding or, other kind of mandates for planning and so. Interesting to report back next week how that goes.
10:33:18 Yeah.
10:33:16 Can I say one thing on that just at the Brennan community conversation? There were, you know, there is that tension that exists in Britain.
10:33:25 I think it's a really good option, but I just want to report that several of the folks that kind of came.
10:33:29 A little heated about the topic, you know, or kind of fish before people or conservation efforts that have have ancillary, you know, impacts on their livelihood or homes.
10:33:41 And most of them, kind of signed up with Tammy to be on the Dersey, well, those who all ups, a group and are I think willing to engage in a way that I don't remember even 6
months ago.
10:33:54 So I thought I felt pretty good about the way that tension resolved itself at the at the meeting last week.
10:34:00 I'm glad to hear that. And I think Tammy is really good at. Holding those conversations and you know certainly has put in the time and building relationships to make that possible.
10:34:14 I will be missing the second day of the leadership council meeting down there. Just can't get away, for 2 full days.
10:34:21 So I have Couple of meetings lined up here. One, I'm gonna be talking to some stakeholders trying to dig into this.
10:34:31 The I talked about this last week too, the, proposal we talked about legislatively. Really, there's this question of.
10:34:41 How much flexibility is do we have with them, to change uses and density and it seems like there's a lot of different interpretations and you know, Caljel and Josh Peters, among
others we're going to be talking about it at the.
10:34:55 Planning Directors Conference, which was last week. So, I'll be talking to some property owners and in the coming weeks to see if they're, you know, if they feel that they have
been able to.
10:35:10 Pursue the kind of uses that they want to indeed the flexibility is there or not. We know that septic, is probably the biggest.
10:35:20 Challenge. Lots size, you know, sufficient for. Jane Fields and then of course the cost, our big challenges.
10:35:31 So. Thrilling down a little further before we advance that legislative, idea any further. I will join for the Housing Fund Board.
10:35:41 On Wednesday. Thursday, I'm going to miss the community outreach meeting and pressing.
10:35:49 Just this in a real low spot. And, treatment right now and just can't get away much.
10:35:57 Hope to attend that Olympic workforce development council meeting on Thursday. Friday have a State Board of Health environmental health committee meeting really hoping it's
funny you know when i joined the state board of health they're saying oh any day now we're gonna see the new onsite subject code draft and we still haven't.
10:36:15 So this is the the group that carries that forward. So hopefully, get a specific update on when we're gonna get that draft in hand.
10:36:26 And that's about it for my week.
10:36:30 Great. Thank you, Kate. Doesn't sound like there's anything that you need help with, right?
10:36:35 A coverage on an editing thing.
10:36:37 I don't think so. No, I've passed off a number of things to, to appropriate staff.
10:36:43 Thank you.
10:36:43 Great. All right, well, look at my week. This afternoon planning on us.
10:36:52 A journey early. I am meeting with Cindy Brooks, the EDC director to kind of prep for a meeting at 5 PM.
10:36:59 Tonight. At in Glencove just a Lizanne Koker helped me set it up, but kind of a casual.
10:37:06 First talk just getting the pulse of the and then, I have my final anti racist class on, Wednesday as well as I think a finance meeting.
10:37:22 Oh, I probably have a work a meeting on Wednesday that conflicts with that that I'll have to reconcile.
10:37:29 The housing fund board we have a special meeting on Wednesday is Kate referenced I'm glad you're gonna be able to attend I know at least one other member won't be able to be
there.
10:37:37 This is a special meeting just to answer questions about the RFP, which has changed, you know.
10:37:43 Pretty foundationally and also not much at the same time, but answer questions. The biggest one. I got a preview is do those emergency repairs in South County still count under
the new kind of simplified process.
10:38:00 We reached out to commerce, as we're told, ask your lawyer about the 50 $90 and regarding the 53 86 is that right now I'm getting all my that the homelessness funding, those
are pretty much emergency repairs.
10:38:15 Is I think explicitly listed. I'm just concerned because We're going to have so few of those dollars this year.
10:38:22 You know, $200,000, you know, we that's what we put into the shelter last year from the same fund essentially.
10:38:28 So it's. Hopefully, I'm hoping that we can find a path to.
10:38:32 At least accepting administratively from art with our authority that the $1590 could be used for emergency home repairs.
10:38:38 It's really the definition of housing related services. Does housing related services, is it inclusive? Emergency repairs to keep up.
10:38:51 Oh, it's a no-brainer to me, but that's I think the biggest question.
10:38:55 Yeah, Kate.
10:38:55 Well, and, and isn't there also, a provision for, preventing homelessness, which, you know, I think we also want to make the case.
10:39:05 That's That's but that's with the much smaller.
10:39:09 Oh, they're dollars. Okay.
10:39:11 So I'm just concerned. We they certainly qualify under that. It's just, I don't know if they will rise to the top if we're gonna prioritize emergency shelter as we have in the
past year.
10:39:22 Okay.
10:39:23 So on that front, we get these. Emails from strategies 300, and 60 about funding opportunities.
10:39:31 And I saw the HUD, open applications under pathways to removing obstacles. I'm just.
10:39:38 How do we respond to those? Do we? Usually it's to the housing agencies themselves. We're very concluded into that.
10:39:46 Okay, okay. Do we? Usually it's the housing agencies themselves, we're very, into that. Okay.
10:39:49 Okay, okay. It's funds. I mean, I kind of read through them and see. Yeah, no, I read through it and I'm like, well, this, yeah, I mean.
10:39:51 Somebody in Jefferson County, I hope is going after these funds. Right. I mean, if we had our own housing czar or department, but we don't have a We, we don't have staff that
can take advantage of them and we wouldn't be implementing them anyway, so.
10:40:05 Let's pretty much where we are right now.
10:40:09 Seems like a good opportunity for somebody. Yeah, I mean, yeah, and we're honestly all of our providers are doing great and getting capital dollars to put it on the ground.
10:40:21 It's you know, it's the same the pipeline afterwards for staff I think that is concerning the same way that you know, we're hearing it all over about childcare, you know.
10:40:29 It's great to get them built but That macaw example I think I shared with you where they have a brand new head start facility.
10:40:36 And have exactly the same number of seats because they don't have any more funds or. Staff pipeline to increase the number of capacities.
10:40:46 So they're say same class and a bigger building basically.
10:40:51 Then I have the only cap. Meeting, it's gonna be a challenge as I go into, back to school where Wednesday, 9 7 to be in Tacoma every week.
10:41:02 So I'm seeing if only cap if the other board members are flexible about maybe finding a different day, but I'll starting at 4 30.
10:41:09 I'll the finance meeting and the general meeting at 5 30. On Thursday we have a special meeting for Jeff Calm.
10:41:17 Our policy requires that we We come up with a budget every year by the last meeting in September. And we haven't actually had we've kind of looked over broad strokes of it as
it's been set up strategically but we haven't actually had a chance to look at it so this will be a a meaning to go over and make sure that we have a chance to Understand the draft
before we go to our final meeting where
10:41:39 we'll have to approve it. It's great also to have Matt Stewart in that leadership role.
10:41:44 I'll just say again, because he's. Sorry, Monty. Yeah, bittersweet for some of the room.
10:41:52 He's bringing, Just the same sort of thorough problem solving attitude that I think is at its streets and when he was on roads and really improved communication and morale through
that organization.
10:42:07 So we're really happy to have them there.
10:42:10 10'clock I am going up to the first floor to meet with the Jefferson County Bar Association for an hour to talk about.
10:42:17 I don't know what I'm gonna riff. Is that if you have a slide deck you can prepare.
10:42:23 I'm like, just. I am happy to talk. So we'll see what they want to talk about.
10:42:30 And then there's a couple, there's regular Thursday meetings with the Intergov consultant and Environmental Public Health and DCD staff and I've asked to be invited and I think
to those meetings that happen kind of periodically throughout Thursday.
10:42:44 So I'm going to be a. Fly on the wall for one or 2 of those meetings to understand how we navigate these issues with Intergov.
10:42:52 And we all have the community meet outreach meeting in quill seeing and I want to give you a heads up Monte, I think.
10:42:59 According to the the social media feeds, which I am told about but do not actually peruse myself there's a lot of, focus again on the speed through the quilting core and the
complete streets project.
10:43:14 So I think that will be a topic that comes up and you know the perennial can we get a speed limit one of the signs that If we can we get one on every block?
10:43:27 So it's just money. Yeah. And working with wash dot, right? Yeah.
10:43:35 To the easiest things to come up with. And so that'll be Thursday night and then the fifteenth we have.
10:43:43 In person meeting I'll go up to the Red Cedar Hall and Blynn for the Sailors Behavioral Health Administrative Service Organization meeting.
10:43:51 I will be both Clamo County and Jefferson County and I think Kitsap County will be officially.
10:43:58 Our recommendation for the opioid funds will be. Processed basically by the executive board. Then I will be on the radio at 1230.
10:44:10 I had tentatively behavioral health, but I'm still not sure who I would what we would talk about exactly.
10:44:14 So I'm leaning to seeing if Cindy or someone else from the recompete project can come to talk about.
10:44:19 3 complete project and broad broad strokes and specific strokes as well. And you know, talk about the opioid funding.
10:44:27 I could talk about the opioid funding. Yeah, I don't know. One of those things, I'm just not sure.
10:44:34 I love, I like spend the whole week like, I love it how you're not sure and you show up and do great shows.
10:44:41 I'm like, I have to do a lot more homework. Right. Well, I always have Treasury pray to make me 17 slides. Right.
10:44:47 Well, I always have Treasury pray to make me 17 slides to prepare for. No, I, I like, I do curate.
10:44:52 I might come up with what we're going to the talking points that we're going to come up with.
10:44:57 You know, I just, Do that 15Â min before the radio show. And then we'll have the recompete task force.
10:45:04 I think we're going to hear like I gave my presentation on the 2 site specific projects. I'm putting into this RFP process and we'll hear from some others as well though.
10:45:14 Take my landed pretty well last week, I have to say. But we still need workforce development.
10:45:23 Of course, that's, key one and that seems like the really sticky wicket how you can.
10:45:27 Who's gonna do it? You know, we kind of brought Peninsula College and kind of as the group to push that, but then we have We still, we're just still just talking about anything
that could be.
10:45:38 Workforce development basically. It's hard. This group really feels like hurting catch to me because there's so many different ways we could go.
10:45:47 And we just keep broadening the mouth of the jar instead of bearing the mouth of the jar.
10:45:52 I don't understand it, but. It'll be interesting next week to hear a debrief.
10:45:56 Your evening meeting with the businesses out there. Yeah, we'll see and I'm setting up one with the the neighborhood around there as well.
10:46:03 Board of Health member who lives over there. And that is my week coming up. This my. There's a surprise party for my dad in Tacoma for his birthday on the fifteenth.
10:46:15 I don't tell him. You just said it in open public meeting, Greg. I made sure they weren't in the Zoom room first.
10:46:23 Okay, that goes up for everybody listening or reviewing the Zoom video later. Do not tell Greg's dad.
10:46:31 Yeah, please don't.
10:46:33 Okay. Monty, you wanna take us through any high points of your coming week?
10:46:42 Still in. That's not a Friday. Talk about quilting complete streets, right?
10:46:53 So, and maybe I'll talk to Eric, cause I know he's been working on that for years between all the other things he does, which By the way, is everything is everything in our
department.
10:47:10 You know, so he or excuse me anyway, but you know some highlights in that area of course I mentioned the completing the chip seal on the coil road.
10:47:20 I mean, maybe people. Want to throw a party for that and stuff but you know that's a Big project.
10:47:28 It's 40 miles. Yeah, that's a big project and that's an important project.
10:47:33 We mostly wrapped up the caller replacement on your roads, No Creek Road. Before moon fast, which I guess was this weekend wasn't it?
10:47:45 We voted down to enjoy some. Yes, there you go. So just have some guardrail remaining to put on that but Again, that was a project 7 years in the making and.
10:47:54 When that call verte had washed out and failed that would have been the biggest priority of the We'll see area residence, but kinda out of sight, out of mind.
10:48:06 Right. If it doesn't break until we show up, but that that covert was actively failing.
10:48:12 And that detour that was not popular down Lord's Lake, road would have become the permanent route for years had we not.
10:48:21 Proactively. Gone after the funding. To make that happen. And that was a
10:48:31 That was a unusual funding source hazard, FEMA hazard mitigation funds. It took quite a while.
10:48:38 We had to, I won't go into it all, but we'd hire people from as far away as Colorado to help us put that funding application together.
10:48:45 Process very complicated. Now they go around. Giving. A lectures on how they succeeded in Jefferson County with a project like that because it isn't something that the type
of project that FEMA really funded before with that program.
10:49:01 We also got a loan to bow around out funding on that, which, People think we're awash in money.
10:49:09 They might question why we're getting loans to do projects at this point. Fortunately, low interest loan.
10:49:16 From the public works trust board fun board that program super important We're looking at it for solid waste planning in capital facilities as well.
10:49:29 On the solid waste side it can come with up to 50% grant. Which is hard to find in solid ways.
10:49:35 So, but you know the loans are you know half percent. Still, I mean, even today is pretty good.
10:49:45 Wow. You know, so, So not bad there. So that was a We'll sell Creek Colbert by 1.3 million all told and contractor did a great job.
10:49:57 Now we had a few days of delay while the culvert was delivered to the project but still they wrapped that up, you know, well ahead of schedule and you know before moon fest.
10:50:07 And everything so and did a great job. Brock and Brock local contractor well really out of Kalum County but I consider that local.
10:50:17 And they now own the Penny Creek Cory so they really are local. They've always done really good work.
10:50:23 Did you say they only had because they had spent a month, you know, driving by my house with material for that and they were, they were like within 2 or 3 truckloads of right?
10:50:33 Yeah, so to do that project. Expeditiously, they hauled all the the fill in for that project, which came from their quarry.
10:50:42 Ahead of time when stockpiled it at a site we. Procured, which I should also.
10:50:50 Shout out to Rainier and Pope. That project would have been a lot more expensive without their cooperation giving us an affordable place to get rid of all the old unsuitable
film material and and then the contractor used that to stockpile the new material ahead of time.
10:51:10 And it was about 18,000 tons of material.
10:51:15 12,000 yards so you know, a thousand truckloads of material, like you say. And, at the end of the job they had 3 loads left over.
10:51:29 Pretty great. So your public works team did a pretty good job estimating in the contractor did a pretty good job.
10:51:36 As well. With their estimates of what they needed to make that job happen. So pretty amazing when you saw the size of which you videoed it which I appreciate I showed that,
drawing footage to a number of people.
10:51:53 They really liked it. Appreciate that, but you saw the size of that excavation and then to only have 3 truckloads material left at the end of the job.
10:52:00 Pretty, good. So, anyway, like I said, just waiting for, There's a little bit of delay on the guardrail post, but, we've got the temporary barrier up for now.
10:52:11 So people could use the road and And, it's a good project. So.
10:52:19 Anyway, yeah, this week is. You know, more sewer. I know, and we got to look into the That quil scene bridge project that the hood canal salmon enhancement group is.
10:52:31 Promoting with the Jamestown tribe. We got to start taking a look at that. Do you think we'll be able to get it onto the tip this year?
10:52:39 I mean, oh, we'll get it on the tip. No problem. Remains to be seen.
10:52:45 You know, they haven't, inked a deal with their funding agency yet and I think that they
10:52:53 My experience with federal funding agencies is it takes a while. So I don't know what it'll be with this.
10:53:00 Not tiger. It's, what are they called? Raise. But I'm guessing it could be a while.
10:53:07 And then. You know, they need to hold off on bidding that project until they are. Understand all of the requirements from that funding source of what needs to be in their bid
documents, things like build America Buy America, or did I say that backwards, buy America, build America?
10:53:27 And all these kinds of requirements with federal funds may need to be included in their bid. Package.
10:53:37 So really bidding it before your You're, your funding is all, I in place could be risky for him.
10:53:44 So I'm not sure that the schedule that they rolled out to you. Few weeks ago is going to hold or not, but one way or the other at some point they will get that project started.
10:53:58 And I know they'd like to student started sooner rather than later and we've got a review their plans and everything.
10:54:05 So maybe. We'll have a little bit of time this week to do that. I don't know.
10:54:11 It's been, you know, pretty busy with everything going on. So. I wonder if you got a fire at the transfer station, but our staff there contained it with the fire department
being right next door there helps.
10:54:24 Load from the commercial hall or caught on fire when they dumped it on the floor.
10:54:31 Those are My guess, lithium battery, but, they don't know yet.
10:54:38 So they'll have to, of course, for the public. We're not supposed to put our lithium batteries in with the garbage.
10:54:40 There's a recycling for that, right? Right. Free at the transfer station. Don't put the batteries in your garbage.
10:54:47 You put the alkalines in. Yeah, the alkalines been at the lithiums.
10:54:50 They've had more than one transfer station burn down because of that, not here, but in other places.
10:54:55 Could have been something else but that's typically the cause but our staff was on top of it and and didn't do any damage to anything.
10:55:07 So, Unfortunately, the fire. Crews were able to respond really quickly to that, so.
10:55:15 Is it premature to talk a little bit about? What capital planning might look like for the next.
10:55:22 Quarter for solid ways to solid ways. It might be premature. I mean, we're taking a bit of a pause in the process to realign.
10:55:34 The scope with where we think it needs to go. You know, that
10:55:41 And some of the team members. The consulting team members won't be with us going forward and some probably will.
10:55:50 But I think that, you know, More than anything.
10:55:55 It's called a transfer station for a reason. It's a transportation facility and transportation is the core of the issue there, of course, also the functionality of the.
10:56:08 Facility itself in the end, the internal, those that's also, you know, very important. You know, making sure that it's Located at the proper place to make it.
10:56:21 Accessible to. The customers, the commercial haulers, the trucks that are hauling the waste out of the county, you know, obviously.
10:56:33 There's lots of vacant property down there off of SR. 100, and 4, but that would be.
10:56:38 Incredibly dangerous to locate a facility off that highway, which you couldn't do anyway because washed out wouldn't allow it and for good reason because we all know how difficult
it is to make left turns onto that highway.
10:56:51 So you got to think about other transportation facilities. Obviously the main one. For the bulk of our citizens is Beaver Valley Road and Center Road.
10:57:02 And looking for sites that are accessible to those transportation routes that also tick all the other boxes. And our existing site's not out of the question, but there are some
intersection problems that need to be addressed if we're going to continue to operate there and the current site is really too small.
10:57:25 Especially the lanes in. Yeah, the other side the property own off Cape George has a lot of you know some potential as well but When you think about where the center of the
population is.
10:57:36 North of 104 if we're you know where we have a facility in quill scene and that serves, in quill scene and that serves quill scene and that serves quill scene in Bryan.
10:57:49 But really that centroid of population is in the Port Hadlock area. Because you're thinking about people from Garter from Port Ludlow from Port Hadlock and for from Port Townsend
and in a perfect world if there was a ideal.
10:58:01 Piece of property would probably be located in the port Hadlock, Chimacom area, but.
10:58:06 Perfect pieces of property are few and far between in this county. We have a lot of steep ridge lines and swampy.
10:58:13 Alder bottoms and then. So there's a lot to, you know, really consider in that process.
10:58:21 And that's what we'll be doing going forward. I would say right now though our solid waste team.
10:58:27 Is really just focused on moving garbage out of this county with the staffing challenges that we have. So for the next couple months, that's what we gotta focus on, but we'll
be.
10:58:38 As we can.
10:58:41 You know, thinking about the scope of that planning project going forward so we can continue that. Thanks for that.
10:58:48 Yeah, one of the. My takeaways and I keep coming back to you from the last solid waste.
10:58:52 Capital planning meeting was the task force was the the drone tour of the Grace Harbor facility, which is not Perfect in a lot of ways for I think our needs and our customer
base, but.
10:59:02 I was really, It was telling to me when the architect talked about, about, you know, different levels of service, because that was what we were talking about at that last meeting
and and how the flexibility of kind of just a big.
10:59:15 Parking lot versus having concrete, you know, having everything predetermined with concrete lanes and everything that, you know, a big parking lot with orange cones was.
10:59:24 In many ways offered a higher level of service than something that was really a more of a built architecture. Yeah, I think it could.
10:59:33 I mean that Grace Harbor facility was pointed out to us as a model of a good facility for a rural community.
10:59:43 It processes about 3 times the volume of waste that we currently process per year. And, seems to do it, you know, really efficiently and .
10:59:52 Barely was fairly simple a facility. I mean, like you say, it's a large flat.
10:59:59 Paved area with a big roof over a part of it. Yeah, you can come in 2 sides, right?
11:00:08 So that flexibility, these and they're loading and compacting with commonly available equipment, not these, you know, knuckle boom.
11:00:19 Yeah, not the specialized equipment and things that. Some other facilities used so they're reliability is really high.
11:00:26 And the flexibility like you say. So definitely something to look at.
11:00:35 The one thing they don't have a lot of on that site. Is queuing area for customers but they don't they somehow they have a quarter of the drive through customers that we have
and they're processing 3 times as much garbage.
11:00:50 So don't have a lot of people bringing in small loads like because it's an hour from any cities.
11:00:58 It's that Montesanos and get there, right? I mean there was like, I would say that's not a feature of it.
11:01:03 I've been in Hoors cleaning out a house for my folks and like oh well I guess I'm paying someone to take this in so yeah I know no Probably not the same minimum load issues
if you got a drive for an hour to take your your, Subaru full of garbage.
11:01:15 Yeah, but I think they're, you know, their property is about 7 acres. So if you had you know, it seems like if you had.
11:01:26 Twice that amount of space you'd have plenty of room to figure out the queuing and the and the the lines and everything like that as well.
11:01:34 So mean we've been looking at sites that can offer at least 20 acres but we may be able to look at sites that are as small as, you know, 15 acres or something like that.
11:01:44 But in this process. Everyone's got an opinion and everyone thinks their ideas they all is right, but somehow If you get 10 people in a room, they'll have 10 different ideas
about what a transfer station should do and look like and where it should be.
11:02:02 So we're trying to, you know, bring consensus to that.
11:02:06 Discussion because it's a, you know, it's a It's a decision with. That will be living with for many years.
11:02:19 Can I ask one question? How much focus is there on the existing site? One of the options. It's certainly one of the existing site or the existing property behind the side or
the definitely on.
11:02:33 Is on the table. But we didn't want to be. Myopic, you know, because so often you see decisions made on hey, there's a free piece of accounting property over there.
11:02:44 Let's do it there. And then you realize, well, that wasn't really the best location for that from a transportation standpoint or something.
11:02:51 So I think, you know, looking into all those, but it It's just because we're looking at other locations doesn't mean we've ruled that one out.
11:03:00 It's I'd say it's one of the. Top top top tier. With an additional egress option right I mean like that that pinch point of the wetland and the 2 lanes coming in is seems impossible
to Get around.
11:03:14 Yeah, and it's just too short out to Jacob Miller road. There's not enough lane storage.
11:03:17 Yeah, and that's a terrible intersection to begin with. You know, you've got that curve in the hill right before that and everything and so.
11:03:26 So we need to look at, you know, all these kinds of issues. Well, thanks for diving in.
11:03:32 And again, we got one guy with a little help from me, maybe. So who's also responsible for, you know, daily operations and things.
11:03:42 So, you know, we're not sitting here with a massive capital facilities planning and design group working on these kinds of problems.
11:03:51 I mean, I don't know what people's impression are, but the county is very very thinly staffed.
11:03:58 So, we, we do our best.
11:04:03 And, it's an exciting project. Sometimes I wish it were. My only major project going on right now, but we have a sewer as well, which is also exciting project.
11:04:15 You know, again, lots going on in the public works department. Great. Thanks for asking.
11:04:20 Yeah.
11:04:21 Okay, well we're at 1104 now. I think we've made it through calendaring and briefing the only other item we have before us is an executive session at 1130 to talk about review
of a public employee.
11:04:35 So other items that. You folks have that you want to address today or bring up for the future. Issues that didn't make it under the agenda that you wanna deal with.
11:04:49 I don't. I mean every week I feel. I feel like they have a big big agenda.
11:04:57 There's a lot going on. It's not on the agenda, right? So. I don't have anything.
11:05:06 Okay, nothing.
11:05:09 Nope, no, I'd be happy to recess until 1130.
11:05:13 Okay, I do want to just take this moment to talk again about the community wildfire protection plan.
11:05:20 We're going to public meeting next Friday the 20Â s from 10 tel 4 I think 10 to 4 30 maybe at the Pavilion at Point Hudson.
11:05:31 It's also on Zoom, but it's a critical point to give feedback. I believe. This time.
11:05:35 Yeah, and we'll be doing outreach this weekend at the quilting fair. Did they get a hold of you about?
11:05:40 They got a hold of me as in transit. I'm coming back from don't tell anyone but the surprise party for my dad from the night before so he's getting over there so we'll see if
I man and if I can even Jefferson Transit is really understaffed so they're Good for someone that.
11:05:58 To man their booth at the same fair too. So they're gonna be down there.
11:06:02 Rejecting the coal. And then Sunday will be I'll be with them at the Chimican Farmers Market or doing outreach, so.
11:06:11 And then they'll be here Monday and Monday evening they have a engagement so there's a lot of community outreach going right now about the community.
11:06:19 Community wildfire plan. And the survey is still open, right? Survey still open till the end of the month until September the thirtieth.
11:06:24 And they could find that on. One page. It's on our homepage and If you haven't received it from me or one of us yet.
11:06:33 You can go to the Jefferson County CO dot Jefferson dot.us and on the homepage.
11:06:39 The the read on link there's a community wildfire projection planning item and then the read on link is the link to the survey.
11:06:49 Excellent. I guess the one other thing I had to just make sure that we don't need to talk about is the ICG meeting that's happening on the 20 first was I think Kate did you
talk with the public sector cabinet about that i feel like there was something we were trying to get on there or we talked about but we need to formalize
11:07:05 Yeah, so I talked with, Department of Commerce about coming to give their, comprehensive planning presentation and, so Carolyn.
11:07:15 Nicely prompted me this weekend to follow up. I sent an email to my contacts there. I haven't heard back yet.
11:07:22 Looks like. Dave Anderson. Who leads, Graft Management Services is out of the office for a few days, but there is other staff included on that.
11:07:34 So. I expect to hear back and we'll confirm with Carolyn. They had they had confirmed that date previously, so I don't have a reason to think that it's not an option.
11:07:44 So, but I'll certainly let you know, Carolyn, when I. When I hear back, it's a hard day.
11:07:51 I have to be chairing a meeting in Ellensburg that whole day for a legislative steering committee so I would probably be joining virtually regardless.
11:08:00 And there's also, you guys. We have Mossack, all members got this. So the.
11:08:06 Awesome. Organizing a planning one on one training in Olympia, 2 day training, much I think like.
11:08:11 Well, Greg and I went to timber school, right? But they're just, I've been to the planning school too, it's helpful.
11:08:17 Yeah. Considering attending that because although it completely conflicts with another 2 day meeting I have at that time so Have to remember I was trying to beg out of the other
one to do this one.
11:08:33 Greg, did you do a Wasack one or a commerce one?
11:08:38 Mine was a, I think it was commerce. I know David Wayne Johnson joined me down there.
11:08:41 Yeah.
11:08:43 So it was it was like more planner focused than Yeah, elected official policy makers. It was really.
11:08:48 Hmm. Yeah.
11:08:50 So I registered. I register for the Tourism Conference in Yakima, those same days with TCC. Okay.
11:09:00 So, but I ask Steve Shively if there was any other TCC members who might enjoy attending that.
11:09:03 So thinking someone like Dan Ventura or, you know. Cool. So I'll bring it up at the meeting today, but.
11:09:10 I think I would prioritize going to the planning 101 training versus the tourism conference.
11:09:16 If feels more, some more. Subject matter critical to me right now with planning comprehensive plan renewal coming up.
11:09:24 Hmm. Speaking of conferences, Caroline, do you prefer, for the WASAC annual conference?
11:09:34 Do you prefer to do those registrations or for us to do them with our own credit cards.
11:09:39 You guys are so great at either one. If you do your own, I always know that you'll give me the receipts that I need, so fully trust you.
11:09:46 Whoever's easiest for more than happy to help you book it if you like but fully trust you.
11:09:53 Last Thursday because the early bird deadline was last Friday.
11:09:59 You're going as well, Kate.
11:09:59 Yeah, I'm on, I'm undecided. I'm just gonna have to be super careful about immunity and.
11:10:08 I know that that will not be a very, COVID safe crowd, but, I don't know if you saw that FDA did approve the new booster today since we've been meeting.
11:10:20 So we should start unrolling those but yeah just I need to get a better idea of how protected I will be that stuff like that.
11:10:30 Okay, keep us in a loop. Okay, well I don't have anything else either. So unless there's any objections, we'll recess and return at 1130 to go into our executive session.
11:10:43 So. I will recess and tell. I'll say 1129 so we can get in there in a timely fashion and we'll be doing it you got a you got a zoom link Kate we'll do it online
11:10:53 Well, did we did one get sent out? I'm not sure about that.
11:10:56 Should be on your calendar. Julie sent one.
11:10:58 Perfect. Okay. Thank you so much. Yeah.
11:11:00 Okay, but we'll come back here first. Okay, see, 1129. We are recess until that time.
11:11:02 Sure. Yeah. Thanks.
11:11:08 But I didn't even know it.
11:29:34 All right, welcome back. We're coming out of recess back into regular session and as announced we're going to go directly into executive session.
11:29:44 And we're going into executive session with our civil deputy prosecuting attorney 3 and human resources director and interim county administrator to review the performance of
a public employee, no discussion of salaries, wages, and other conditions of employment to be generally applied within the county and no final action on the hiring, setting the salary
of an individual employee or class of employees or discharging or disciplined an employee.
11:30:05 Exemption is outlined in the Open Public Meetings Act, RCW, 42 dot 31 10 parentheses one parentheses G.
11:30:12 We'll be going in at 1130 and we will come out at noon.
12:01:47 This is not working. It's not showing.
12:01:56 Let me know. All right, we're coming out of executive session and we need to return for another 30Â min.
12:02:08 As a reminder, we are an executive session with the Civil Deputy Prosecutor, 23 Human Resources Directory and Interim County Administrator.
12:02:18 They're not interim but deputized acting acting county ministry. Excuse me. To review the performance of a public employee and a discussion of salaries, wages, and other conditions
of employment to be generally applied within the county and no final action on the hiring setting the salary of an individual employee or class of employees or just charging a discipline
and employee.
12:02:35 Exemptions outlined in the Open Public Meetings Act, RCW, 42 dot 30 dot 110 parentheses one parentheses G we're going at at 1203 it will plan on coming out at 1233 did you want
to know if you did the first time that once?
12:02:49 Part of the original exact. I did.
12:02:53 It was on my list.
12:32:09 Minutes.
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12:34:20 We just. Anyway, Okay. The speaker, now. We just know in yesterday, right now.
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12:34:54 That's going to go through it. Right.
12:35:03 Backstop in video. Okay, I'm getting you on mind. Alright, we're coming back into regular session.
12:35:10 We're having little technical issues as we switch between Zoom Meetings, but we need to extend for 10Â min more.
12:35:16 We're going to go back into executive session with the civil deputy press community at 33, human resources director and acting county administrator review the performance of
a public employee no discussion of salaries wages and other conditions of employment to be generally applied within the county.
12:35:29 No final action on the hiring. Send him a salary or final or of an individual employer or class employees or discharging our disciplined employee.
12:35:37 Exemption is outlined in the open public meetings act, RCW, 42, dot 30 dot 100, and 10 parentheses one, parentheses, G.
12:35:43 We're going in at 1236 coming out at I guess 1246.
12:47:49 That's fantastic. 1, 2, 3. No, nothing. Maybe not, that's fine.
12:47:58 Okay, as long as people online can hear us. Alright, we're back. All right, we are coming out of executive session with no need to extend and no need to extend and no action
taken with no need to extend and no action taken.
12:48:12 It's a reminder we were in there with the civil Deputy Prosecutor, the reminder we were in there with the Civil Deputy Prosecuting.
12:48:20 The reminder we're in there with the Civil Deputy Prosecuting Attorney 3, Human Resources Director and Acting County Administrator to review the performance of a public employee.
12:48:22 Exemption is outlined in the open public meetings, at, 42 dot 30 that 1 10 parentheses one parentheses G As I said, no action will be taken and as we are at the end of our business
we are going to adjourn this meeting of the Board of County Commissioners.
12:48:38 We'll be back. Next Monday at 9 am. So we'll see you here. Thank you very much.
12:48:43 Have a great week.