HomeMy WebLinkAboutchat19:13:41 From David Faber to Hosts and panelists : I have to run. Iâll try to be present at the next meeting, whatever folks schedule. Thank you!
17:03:50 I had Yeah. Hello.
17:04:13 Yes, Sounds good good good job. It is well. Shot down. I'll call this meeting of the Intergovernmental Collaborative to order as well as this meeting of the Intergovernmental
Collaborative to order as well as this meeting of the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners to order as well as this meeting of the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners to order
as well as this meeting of the
17:05:27 And yeah, this is over. I'll call, this Porton City Council the order.
17:04:41 Jefferson Oh, sorry. I bet you were still chair. I apologize. I think I'll call the 4,000 And.
17:05:29 Nice. Maybe should we go around the room and we can do introductions? Just further items.
17:05:32 Carolyn, you want to start? Oh. Bye, Carolyn, Galloway, third of the board with a county commissioner.
17:05:38 Aaron Bird, the director of the court. Carol, I'll see, to miss your district 2 for court.
17:05:47 18 cent long range planner could have saved 4 countries. Dot leaders, community development director. DANGEY.
17:05:56 Hi, DId. Now, our Graphic County Commissioner, District 2. Mark McCauley County administrator.
17:06:04 Kate Dean, Yeah. Get the street. Just benefit. Jeff Randall, Commissioner Jefferson, books online.
17:06:19 Good enough.
17:06:21 Okay. Go ahead.
17:06:23 David, the city of Port Townsend.
17:06:26 Greg Brotherton, Jefferson County Commissioner.
17:06:29 Ben Thomas, city of Port Townsend.
17:06:33 Kenneth.
17:06:33 Oh, and road, city council.
17:06:36 Kenneth Collins, Commissioner, PED, District 2.
17:06:43 Willie Benz, director with the Department of Emergency Management here.
17:06:47 Great. Well.
17:06:48 Dan, you for Jefferson PED.
17:06:51 Okay, okay. Thank you. Sorry, Dan. Didn't see you there.
17:06:57 Alright, so we have a, a, you know, significant amount of work to get to tonight.
17:07:05 So, we will try to be relatively efficient and relatively on schedule. It's always such Interesting conversation.
17:07:13 It's hard to cut short, but I will I will do my best. We will start with public comment tonight and then we have a couple of folks here.
17:07:24 Let's see, just raised in the hands. How many people plan to get public comment? Just 2.
17:07:27 Okay, thanks. Karen, I guess the audio is fine so they can they can maybe come up to the white table. Yeah, so we did sound check earlier on that podium.
17:07:41 Yeah, great. Sounds pretty good. Alright, so, and is there anyone online wishing to provide public Yeah, we have 2 members of the public online.
17:07:51 They need to hit raise hand if they want to. Let's start with,
17:07:59 I got to 3Â min. No, most all of you. I'm not here as an assessor tonight.
17:08:15 Though I was in Olympia on Monday and there's probably 50 60 property tax bills going through there so it's it's enough to make cross your eyes and you almost want to watch
the legislators Who do you think should pay taxes?
17:08:27 Because they have a lot of ideas that should add it all up. But anyway, I'm here to actually talk about trails.
17:08:36 I am a on the, I'm here to actually talk about trails. I am a on the, Pacific Northwest National Senior Trail Advisory Council.
17:08:44 And that's the trail that goes from Glacier National Park to the motion. And the landlord is represented for the whole trail and I'm the only one on the trail from this part
of the peninsula.
17:08:56 We do have, Molly Erickson's from. Orks and she's over on the other side.
17:09:02 We both are exporters. We both worked for the Olympic National Forest. And we're really excited about the trail development.
17:09:09 Because the Pacific Northwest Trail and the Olympic Discovery Trail have the same footprint.
17:09:14 From the very docket for Townsend to Discovery Bay. Maybe further, but at least that far they're going to be the same.
17:09:23 So we're, you know, we're really excited. As any request trial advisory council, we've been talking about the development of the trail from 4 corners up over to Anderson Lake
State Park.
17:09:36 Been working on the like start hard advocacy, giving them the money for doing that. And now we're looking beyond that.
17:09:42 So we're gonna we're saying well where's the trail gonna go when you go past Anderson like State Park to get over to Discovery Bay.
17:09:50 And we know that representative, in the commerce last year, provide $750,000 for acquisitions.
17:09:59 We wanna very much support that trail moving forward. Now the Pacific Northwest Trail was designated by Senator Cantwell and represented Norm Dix back in 2,008.
17:10:10 It was a long delay and then they had a federal advisory council the first one I was on that one.
17:10:17 It was represented then. It was under the Obama administration, when Obama left the advisor council.
17:10:24 And so there was this long delay before we started another advisory council last year. And so because of the delay, not much got done in that time.
17:10:35 That in the last year we've managed to put together a comprehensive plan for the trail. And it got adopted in the end of December by the.
17:10:45 Secretary of Agriculture, the Forest Service. And what should be signed in by the Biden administration.
17:10:52 And then, what is in the call plan is implementing strategy now that it's being adopted.
17:11:00 And one of the target areas in the compound to work on is Discovery Bay. And by Discovery Bay, they mean going from Anderson Lake all the way actually up to Snow Creek, right?
17:11:12 Because they want to get to the 4, Okay, so anyway, What basically I'm saying is we've been talking about this, where we know that the city for accounts is getting ready to
do the acquisition and then maybe hire project manager and we're looking forward to helping any way we can.
17:11:30 I'm also back on your horsemen. We've been helped with maintain the entire trail and will certainly help with maintain the trail over.
17:11:38 Thank you. Thanks, Jeff. Yeah.
17:11:46 Thank you. My name is Marilyn Mount and I'm your representative on the Peninsula Trail Coalition is the vice president of the Jefferson County segment, the team.
17:11:56 And I wanna discuss the first of all that we're so fortunate, to have every designated group, whether it's the port, the county, the, county commissioners all supporting each
other.
17:12:09 You don't find this anywhere in the country and I'm really proud of that. We're very proud of that.
17:12:14 Cause it doesn't occur. So I'm bringing to my information as the Peninsula Trails Coalition in the Olympic Discovery Trail.
17:12:22 Mount Hole 0 is actually at the ferry and you have a little tiny rotary park there. It's most important piece because mouthful 0 is here on a world renowned trail.
17:12:31 And each one of you have the rail trails conservatory magazine in front of you that describes their trail they came out cut a ribbon and that's how we were able to actually
secure the future sound to Pacific monies which were actually.
17:12:42 DECIDED. Out there with Jeff Chadman, Kevin Bell from Gerald Rose Conservancy.
17:12:51 We sat out there and talked about going for this this grant the 16.1 3 million. We sat out there and talked about going for this.
17:13:00 Conservancy. We sat out there and talked about going for this, this grant, the 16.1 3 million dollar grant, which really Marianne who went to Congress, the 16.1 3 million dollar
grant, which really Marianne, the 16.1 3 million dollar grant, which really Marianne who went to Congress and everybody, Marianne who went to Congress and everybody converged together
made that decision there. So right here in our town, which is very important.
17:13:14 So I'm just going to take you on a little quick walk up the trail as we go through the border water walkway, which hopefully will occur.
17:13:27 Bound post 0 heading up towards, and on the Andersen Lake State Park and Sequence into state parks, we don't lose that funding that could occur if we're not both in sequence,
in their construction.
17:13:32 Then we come to the city water line and the support that yes, representative there did secure that money and we don't want to lose that money again.
17:13:39 As we did in other monies in other parts of our county building roads and things we lost money.
17:13:45 So that money is dedicated, devoted for the safety and security of travel over their trail. No one wants to ride SR.
17:13:52 20 down. And it'd be beautiful to have a tunnel under us our 20, rather than having to ride over and have a tunnel under us our 20 rather than having to ride over and have a
tunnel under SR.
17:14:06 20 rather than having to ride over and have a process when they'd be beautiful thing and hire a summer to secure funding for a tunnel rather than going over over the road and
down on the Fairmont, which we own.
17:14:08 One of the most important key positions too is the Hall Bates Newpoint, which we are ready to do.
17:14:12 Construction of that secures the trail from sound to Olympic trail over, from Hood's Canal Bridge to Discovery Bay, a very important key piece of that is integral to the the
rail trails and currency trail coming across the great American rail trail looking with the Olympic discovery trail, the Larry Scott trail, the Pacific Northwest National Senior Trail
from Logan Space, Montana
17:14:36 is happening in our county that doesn't happen anywhere else in the United States. So we're just asking for support.
17:14:41 We're here to be part of your team. And as you can see the implementing things that are taking place on the trail right now.
17:14:49 We've taken Kate, Cape George County Trailhead and restoring that back to its original beauty and putting in bike maintenance stations, eco counters, beautiful 2 by 3 foot pictures
of working with the slam of tribe with their mystery and the water history will they'll be mounted all along the trail.
17:15:14 So excited to be happening. So we're here to ask for your support and we are here for you too.
17:15:17 So if you need us call us, we're here. Thank you. Let me, respond to public comment. There's been some new people online since you called the public comment.
17:15:33 Oh, great. Anyone online wish to provide public comment? Please hit the raise hand button at the bottom of the screen.
17:15:39 Jan has a standup. I don't know if he's trying to respond. Yeah, would you like to respond to public comment?
17:15:42 Yeah, I just wanted to say thanks to Jeff and Merrily. I attended their first collaborative meeting and the PEDs on board with being do whatever support we can and coordinating
with them to make this all happen.
17:15:55 Thanks again for showing up and to Marilyn and Jeff will have if I can't be at the meetings.
17:16:01 We'll be sure that there's a staff person or even another commissioner there to keep keep track of what's going on.
17:16:06 Thanks again.
17:16:09 Thanks guys.
17:16:13 Alright, no, Great. Right. Has everybody had a chance to look at the November sixteenth minutes?
17:16:23 Make it all sound so concise, Carolyn. You do not love us. Yeah, like, yeah.
17:16:36 Alright, any edits concerns? If that'd appreciate a motion to approve the minutes, it's been a I'll move that we approve the minutes of the November 1620 23 ITG meeting.
17:16:50 Bye.
17:16:50 Hi.
17:16:43 I'll second the motion. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Any opposed?
17:16:54 Minutes are approved. Next we have a presentation on the growth management sharing committee. So, thanks for being here, Josh.
17:17:05 And I'm sorry, I forget the name of the planner from the city. Nice to meet you.
17:17:09 Thanks for being here and send it back to you. Thank you. I have what I think is good news or hopefully it would be received as good news and that I do not believe that 18 and
I will need 45Â min for this presentation.
17:17:23 I think it'll be closer to 15Â min or so with the slide and then we could have some discussion and perhaps you can only be 2025Â min or so.
17:17:40 This essentially this is
17:17:42 That's a presentation that's join county cities planning staff.
17:17:46 Operation. Adrian deserves a lot of credit for putting this presentation together. And of course with them.
17:17:50 Planning, city plan director, Emma Bolan being on need. I'm doing stepping in to represent the city and our purpose.
17:17:58 And, and, the community, and, director. Okay, so getting the slide mode here in a moment and what we're gonna do essentially is run you through The plan for the growth management
steering committee work this year and then how that work intersects with the ICG.
17:18:15 So if you go back to the 1990, s there was a joint growth manage and steered community forms between the county and the city in order to tackle those initial growth management
related questions.
17:18:31 1999 the port was added. And then there was discussion actually at that.
17:18:35 And the last ICG meeting about about a role for the PV, so we put together a resolution that the board kind of commissioners adopted recently that the board kind of commissioners
adopted recently that we convened the growth of the board kind of commissioner's adopted recently that we convened the Growth of Engineering community for this purpose.
17:18:48 And you know that resolution is available on Jarvis and County website and anyone wants to see all of those details.
17:18:54 But here essentially we've got these 4 local government entities represented, plus a person from the unincorporated port had like irony over a big world area.
17:19:05 And we also have a rural Jefferson County representative from bringing added to the conversation. And we can go into a little bit why that's important.
17:19:13 So the GMA. The Growth Management Act tells counties that you essentially you need to be a couple of duties.
17:19:22 One is to adopt and maintain kind of like planning policies. You want to set a or growth management planning in any, in collaboration with cities.
17:19:36 First, we only have the one city. So it's a little bit easier for us or even more, it's easier for us or even more, you might say, in our case, but, we're winding that, you
might say, in our case, but, we're winding the net a little bit to make sure that there's others involved in conversation that have interests such as
17:19:46 support, with beauty, and there's other parties that will go into the room as well. The main duties, the size, the kind of policies, involved allocating population, which is
a road management task that we do under an, view.
17:19:59 Past and we're looking ahead 20 years. And essentially, like, says bottom both, it really talks about how we're establishing, planning, work through the counterman planning
policies.
17:20:09 And then this population projection and then the city.
17:20:12 Okay, Yeah, it's tough. So as Ch mentioned a big part of what the
17:20:25 I mean, is looking at population projection.
17:20:27 So it's a quick introduction to the data will be using that. Is population estimates that come from the Office of Financial Management.
17:20:34 They actually send us a range with a low, medium, and high growth projection. So with the growth management sharing company does is take the brains that seems most likely based
off of our local growth conditions.
17:20:50 They then recommend allocating those projected populations to different areas.
17:20:56 In the urban growth areas of the city of Port Townsend as well as Iron Dale Padlaw.
17:21:01 The county's master plan resorts in full-low and private and then finally
17:21:10 Rural areas. The reason
17:21:13 That's allocated is to make sure that. One, we're preserving our natural resource lands from excessive development too so that everybody.
17:21:20 Who lives in the county.
17:21:34 And will within account of the feature has access to the services they need.
17:21:51 So the second part of planning the back growth is, after making those. Determinations, the growth management, certainly reports back to this body, the inner government, for
your review and comment on.
17:21:55 Population allocations. The board of county commissioners then approves allocations based on feedback from the ICG as well as the both.
17:21:57 And then from there, as Josh mentioned, the county can use those findings as we're dragging our
17:22:03 Called defense plans.
17:22:23 In June.
17:22:38 This is just a graphic representation of, sound the growth management series relates to the intergovernmental Your group is a forum for a broad range of very important local
issues, the growth management.
17:22:46 Everybody focuses on a smaller subset of those.
17:22:57 As they relate to the specifically looking at planning for our teachers effective population and reviewing proposals to update our townwide phone policies, which John will talk
about.
17:23:06 Okay.
17:23:16 Essentially, if you're on the, you will be reporting back to this body on findings so that everybody here can review and make.
17:23:19 Okay, and this is just an insert from that resolution that I mentioned. And it just talked in detail about.
17:23:20 The role or the relationship between the Growth Management Steering Committee and the ICG as.
17:23:30 Bye.
17:23:31 Through adoption of this resolution. So essentially again, where the community, as said, is focusing on some particular issues of really diving into those details. I'm really
diving into those details.
17:23:38 And then at your next meeting, we expect to have that. Definitely have that. 45Â min.
17:23:41 We could.
17:23:52 Report out.
17:23:55 Bye. By that time we'll have a couple of meetings and maybe even have a recommendation on the table for a couple of these.
17:23:59 So we'll talk to this group about it, make sure everybody understands what has been discussed and what the data means and then at that point it'll be up to the board.
17:24:12 Adopt a resolution allocating that population, and allows accounting in the city to continue the 2025 period update process, which is, as, mentioned, will send at least until
June thirtieth, 2025.
17:24:27 There is a bill in the legislature that's moving right now that would extend that to the end of 2025,
17:24:27 Thanks. Yeah, so Josh on the GMSC, are, when you say representatives, are you talking about people from this body like a port commissioner?
17:24:35 Beauty Commissioner would be represented on the steering committee. Yes, the resolution stuff goes through that in detail.
17:24:43 And so it's the 3 county commissioners, 3 city councilors, which has been tradition. One court commissioner which has been conditioned as well.
17:24:50 It's really after the port. Yeah, that person is. Yeah, I think it's been selected.
17:24:55 I think actually, So me anyway that he's been he's been selected to represent. And I want to get into that business.
17:25:05 Of course, the PUB, I think it's Commissioner Randall. It's coming to represent that.
17:25:10 And then it up that the other individuals I mentioned have been selected by the commission of that. And then it up that the, the other individuals I mentioned have been selected
by the board already, it's coming to represent commission in that.
17:25:27 And then it up that the end of the other individuals' I've mentioned have been selected by the board already, for, and .
17:25:27 And then bucket. Thank you. And so, so this meeting, for example, is is a public meeting, all various entities, because of the corals represented by the electives.
17:25:39 For the growth man and stereo community meetings, it'll only be a board meeting or account commissioner because we all pre-coute and bishops, all the other boards, that have
been carefully selected so it isn't a quorum of both body.
17:25:50 That's why it's really an advisory body of course.
17:25:58 I think one back.
17:26:03 Okay, you mentioned this. And the other part about the resolution is it talks about casting an even wider net.
17:26:10 Based on the topics. So we anticipate there could be involvement from other community partners. As Commissioner Eisenhower just pointed out, just so happened with the person
representing our community partners.
17:26:23 As Commissioner Eisenhower just pointed out, it's just so happened with the person representing.
17:26:24 I, I know, for, like, UG, also, was involved in school district. So that's at 2 third, but there are other parties such as fire districts, etc, that could be interested will
also be engaging with or at least inviting participation from.
17:26:36 Tries that interest in Jefferson County whether they be because the reservations are cited here or they have interest in seated lands, treaties, in the nineteenth century.
17:26:45 And we actually are required to do so when we're by a new statute when we want to or thinking about.
17:26:56 To do so, when we're by a new statue, when we walk up to or thinking about, amending our, our thinking about, amending our counting like planning process.
17:26:59 I should also mention that the counter wide planning policies that were adopted in the calendar by planning policies that were adopted in the early 90, planning process.
17:27:06 I should also mention that the counter wide planning policies that were adopted in the early 90, s which then set that were adopted in the early 90, s which then set the framework
for the first GMA compliant plans for the countless 19 ninety- Those kind of iconic policies have not been amended since then.
17:27:12 So. There is a talk about the possibility of delay that they're, there were some amendments that were talked about in 2,005 was a previous incarnation of this collaboration
essentially but that didn't that didn't come to creation at that time but now it seems like it would be time to talk about those things, especially if we're going to talk about the
port towns in Bertie Grove area boundary and whether
17:27:32 that Matthew should be re-examined. And so that's one of the things that could be on the table.
17:27:36 And there are some other aspects of the account away many policies that probably will be investigated such as perhaps a specific policy that's to do with collaboration with
tracks.
17:27:46 Joshua and Adrian would you, rather wait on questions or take them as they arrive. Alright, and, Carolyn, tell me if anyone has their hand races on Zoom just like, maybe one
comment.
17:28:05 And please that Nicole Gafia is here from transit. I think that would be a great, person to potentially included some of those larger conversations, and Jefferson Healthcare
is expressive interest as well.
17:28:21 I'm just gonna jump on the phone. And how many meetings are planning to have this group need new chief I always knew it.
17:28:42 For that we're gonna get to that. But the idea of inviting multiple parties as part of this conversation.
17:28:51 Certainly nothing against that idea at all whatsoever. But again, I guess, well, if, and, when the county, what our planning costs are, and there is a slide to talk about what
points those.
17:29:03 That is one conversation. But I also want to make sure that we understand that. The larger conversation about the comprehensive plans.
17:29:10 Is also that broader opportunity and certainly I know Transits already represented in the county's conference plan in terms of capital facilities, element of transportation.
17:29:20 So I just wanna make sure that this isn't the only conversation. It sort of sets some framework issues.
17:29:25 Around around around the matter because of the framework goal that the counter by planning policies play. I remember we've had multiple periodic reviews before that deal with
the counter by planning policies play.
17:29:41 But remember, we've had multiple periodic reviews before that deal with conference. I know the city, I think whether it's in this week's play.
17:29:45 I remember we've had multiple periodic reviews before that deal with conference. I know the city, I think whether it's in this week's leader or future edition has all inserted
about how to engage in that process and we're going to do the same.
17:29:49 Dan, go ahead.
17:29:51 Thank you. So on the composition of the board, I know what Scott discussed a little bit at the last ICG meeting, but our board never really in my.
17:30:01 Recollection, determined, what a representation would look like. I would, and you hear this allotted EDC, you're going to hear it from me again here is the representation for
districts 2 and district 3.
17:30:12 I don't know what the balance I did hear everybody.
17:30:18 Names but I don't think that our board had a real conversation about who our representative would be in this particular instance and it concerns me that we you know I did hear
the composition of the county commissioners 3 people from the city council I heard my concern is that we balance this with because most the growth is projected in districts 2 and 3
if I'm not mistake and I could be wrong.
17:30:39 So my concern is it's now always will be is that all 3 districts are equally represented and this is an important process and important role with GMA and County, you know, county
plans.
17:30:51 So that I have a little concern there.
17:30:56 Understood. I guess I jumped down in terms of the port. Just start with the PD, how that represent how the beauty wants to be represented on the growth management steering committee,
how to represent how the beauty wants to be represented on the growth management steering committee, which again is just committee diving in the growth management steering committee,
which again is just, to be represented on the growth management steering committee, which again is just committee diving in the details about these specific tasks, population
17:31:15 allocation. And the county by planning policies. And we've also built into this process. The findings and recommendations from that body coming to this body, which does have
the full representation of all the weapons.
17:31:27 And ultimately, it's like county decision about. Alocating population and and, company, WANTS, IT, WANT, to be clear about that too.
17:31:38 But will awake we have the first meeting already scheduled we'll just wait and see who shows up from UD.
17:31:48 We'll just wait and see who shows up from beauty. What's the date and time on that. We're gonna get to that in a sec.
17:31:53 What's the date and time on that? We're gonna get to that in a sec. I don't have it in my mind. Exactly.
17:31:56 I think it's great.
17:31:58 Yeah, thanks. Great presentation so far and I just wanted to respond to Dan a little bit and say, you know, I, we did push to get some from the district 3 explicitly on there
as well.
17:32:08 As our new UGA, in port Hadlock talking about the NPR that is already in our growth projections going on in Pleasant Harbor as well as the sewer and port Hadlock.
17:32:19 And I do feel like, you know, we can, I mean, perfect equal representation would be like a 34,000 person committee and I feel like you know the questions are fairly limited
that we that we really need to answer.
17:32:31 So. I'd love to be able to move forward and, you know, we are always squeaky wheels down in district 3.
17:32:36 So I just want to assure Dan that we are, we will stand up and be counted.
17:32:40 I guess just speaking also for the PED once we get the schedule of meetings, how many it is, you know, I presume will discuss that our board meeting and pick representation
either to participate.
17:32:55 Yeah.
17:32:55 If I can chime in as the third PD commissioner. If the meeting is scheduled for March fifth from, 4 to 6.
17:33:07 That coincides with the PED board of commissioners meeting.
17:33:12 Yes. That's such a hard time scheduling it.
17:33:20 Yeah, I didn't. I'm not aware of that. I know we had one of the one of the
17:33:27 Commissioner's office staff doing multiple, to get to this meetings, but I wasn't aware of that particular.
17:33:37 It has been a challenge, I must say, signing. And if we have to cancel that, I mean, because of that reason, then so be it.
17:33:43 We actually try to schedule that. You know, to that reason, then so be it. We, actually try to schedule that first.
17:33:46 Growth Management Staring Committee, before this one, which is maybe why we ended up with 45Â min on the agenda because we thought we'd already have something to before.
17:33:55 Just meeting. It didn't happen that way. And we thought about the week after this meeting and then we later on the week after that because of different scheduling conflicts
through that dual polling.
17:34:04 So there was somebody, I don't know if it was PV staff that was on that email stream, but either way that, yeah, that'll be something that I mean, it's really I'll just defer
to our board on that one, how we want to handle that.
17:34:18 Just commissioner too, I could.
17:34:16 Okay. Oh, I'm sorry. Meetings, maybe we're not.
17:34:24 Okay.
17:34:24 It's commissioner, I could. So I guess a question and I know it could be a lack of continuity as far as the PD is concerned.
17:34:32 Is this something that we could rotate a representative to this group? I mean, would that create a problem or is that something that would be workable?
17:34:39 Or even we may decide a staff person may be the person fit for this at some point. Depending on the meeting schedule.
17:34:47 Sounds like you guys, that out.
17:34:54 Why don't we continue with this presentation? Then we'll know what the work is. Josh?
17:35:04 Or, okay, so. These are the 2 main topics we've entered that number for. So we've already been given these estimates from the Office of Financial Management and you may recall
that The growth management of programs program manager.
17:35:27 David Anderson presented to this body and he talked about The remarkable accuracy, I'm putting words in his mouth, but he did say that it was.
17:35:36 That the immediate the medium population estimates that they've provided over the years across the state. I've been, something like that.
17:35:45 I don't for us it might be a little different just because we're quite a bit smaller than most other counties when it in terms of population.
17:35:54 Anyway, they've already given us those numbers. We're at the staff level, looking at the numbers function.
17:36:01 I'm already doing some of the tools and then we're going to present that information at the first both.
17:36:06 And then we're going to present that information at the first both, and that the first both engineering committee meeting and have this conversation and see what that committee
thinks about it and then move forward.
17:36:11 Just for the record. That every allocation has happened since the nineties since the first one. Has chosen the needle population projection doesn't mean that we have to do it
this time just bring in on that.
17:36:24 That's what we've done for. So. This has happened at least 3 times I wanna say over the over the years since.
17:36:34 And then the other thing.
17:36:44 Right.
17:36:46 Oh yes, thanks. I was just wondering on this slide, Josh, if you can, or Adrian can talk about.
17:36:53 What's what's the real thing? Are we trying to guess with this body what the growth will be?
17:36:59 Are we trying to set a target for ourselves for our pattern of development? I mean, can we be aspirational or we supposed to be as realistic as possible about what will happen
or what should happen.
17:37:12 Yeah, I would say that. We've been given a range. From low to medium to high from 11.
17:37:20 And so whatever number we pick, my understanding is it and needs to be within that range. So I suppose aspirational if you're talking about additional population would be the
high of that range.
17:37:31 And then after we select the range, then we allocate that to the various areas that Adrian listed.
17:37:39 The 2 UGAs, the 2 NPRs, and then the rest of the rural part of the county.
17:37:44 And in the past it's been by percentage. And the last time it was done was 2015 by a resolution on the board.
17:37:54 I believe the city adopted a joint resolution. But to that effect. And so we're going to share that resolution at the first Ghost Management Steering Committee meeting to see
what happened last time.
17:38:02 Look at the numbers. And then make some decisions about how to do that. That's essentially that's essentially that task.
17:38:10 Thank you.
17:38:13 Monica. Thank you. I just like to throw out there for consideration that as long as you sharing the 2015.
17:38:27 I would like you to share the. 1997 or 98 whatever it would have been sharing the 20 fifteenfifteen. I was on the planning.
17:38:37 As long as you're sharing the 35. I was on the planning and she didn't have to share the 1997 or 98 whatever it would have been that we both county and city use for our first
conference because that number was way online.
17:38:55 So it might have been a high but I would like this new growth management steering committee to get as much background information as they can to come up with where they're gonna
land Yeah.
17:39:00 So I think it would be, so I was a planner for Grant County when the growth management policies first came out and boy it was this massive debate about countywide planning policies
and population and I kind of heard about the conversations that happened in Jefferson County and then it was interesting what Josh just said that once those policies were adopted, they
were never touched.
17:39:19 They're still the original policies. So I'm kind of wondering to what extent these population figures and any other substantive policies in the countywide planning policies.
17:39:29 Actually have been used. I'm not saying they're useless. I'm saying that the state had all these aspirational goals about cities and counties or plans being coordinated not
being in conflict, different cities trying to annex the same land.
17:39:43 I mean, that was the goal and I think it's largely worked, you know, people are now aware of each other's plans, they try to act.
17:39:50 Coordinated with them, but just so that people understand. What are the actual ramifications of these population numbers?
17:39:57 Are they just put in there? Do we use them in our capital facility planning? Do we use them for going for housing grants?
17:40:04 Is there can anybody share how they're actually used?
17:40:09 And if we don't know, I guess that's okay. We can talk about it. Well, I think, fully answer that question, Commissioner Randall, would take would take some time.
17:40:22 I think that's the type of thing that we'll get into with the growth. In a nutshell, There those numbers are important for planning services but they don't always come to fruition.
17:40:32 In fact, they never do exactly like you planned it out. Just like you said, you can't hear because yes, those population.
17:40:40 Estimates for the growth here in this county were quite high in the nineties. In fact, that's why Jefferson County would have had to have been a fully planning accounting under
GMA anyway, even if it hadn't decided to opt in voluntarily.
17:40:56 But then later those growth rates basically talk off. But the last round I believe are maybe more realistic growth rates.
17:41:04 If I've never, 1.7 5%, 1.5% somewhere in that range, we've used the 1.4 8%.
17:41:10 Target for our UGA planning and that's been I think somewhat realistic. And so those are the things the types of things that we'll be revisiting during the 2,025 update what
for what growth rate was the city using what grew up with a more purpose account using for.
17:41:27 And again, for planning purposes and it is connected. So it's absolutely and transportation and essentially building out a capacity at herring capacity number for a particular
geography.
17:41:38 And so you're doing everything you can to accommodate. That population as you mentioned in the introduction.
17:41:42 And then of course, then reality comes and we'll see what happens from there, but at least you're attempting to plan in your, I know you're a planner at heart.
17:41:51 So you know what I mean? Well, I guess looking back on it was the growth management steering committee.
17:41:56 Mike do the new one. I think now that we've had 2 cycles. Of having done that, plus we've had you know, 30 years almost of dealing with really addressing infrastructure challenges.
17:42:11 Try area sewer. We've we've got some experience maybe part of what the growth management steering committee could do is look back and say, here's the policies were adopted.
17:42:20 Here's how we've used them. Here's how they're helpful, not helpful, and maybe it'll kind of.
17:42:25 Lower the pressure on. Oh my god, we have to look at these again. It's like, well, you know, here's what they were.
17:42:30 Here's the function they've served. And just kind of advising the rest of us what is their meaning, how are they helpful, how are they not, you know, they don't bind us in ways
that prevent us from being creative and solving problems.
17:42:43 So just thank you for sharing how they've been used and Some of it is to be determined. Makes sense.
17:42:50 And ultimately, of course. We're just reacting to the what the statue says that we're making the state happy.
17:43:01 One thing I was thinking about is there's a number of bills and logs through the session that might affect like housing ability to build housing and landmarks, local areas and
more intensive rural development and stuff like that.
17:43:20 And so I guess after the legislative session will do a hot washtime. What changes were made and how that might affect where we allocate population to we might wanna.
17:43:30 Think about, if there is the opportunity to think about having a, I don't know. Not housing, but some expansion of commercial development.
17:43:39 So anyway, just was thinking about the legislative No, that probably, or at least as much as any other topic, I would think that there have been so many.
17:43:54 Or at least as much as any other topic, I would think that there have been so many changes to the statue related to housing that is one of the main challenges for us in terms
of the 2025 update something's more or less states that maybe national resource lands would be an example in terms of the stashing, but so many bills that has to have. Absolutely. We're
having to dive into that and having new requirements.
17:44:13 I think I might have mentioned last time about trying to plan for different income. Which is a whole new thing for the carrot. Sure.
17:44:20 I believe in the city. And so yes, we need to react with those. That's gonna be part of a longer conversation in terms of our respective housing elements.
17:44:27 But it absolutely is a factor in terms of how we think about allocating.
17:44:33 So I'm, I just remember the last meeting that we were at. I'm pretty sure it was Jeff who said something that kind of left me breathless, which is Where are we gonna get the
water?
17:44:44 Where are we gonna get the power? Anyway, oh, it's not an endless resource in this heaven that we live in.
17:44:51 So clearly that. Has to be a piece of this. And I'm wondering, is there an overlay in any way where there's voluntary or mandated for 0 emissions that we need to get to to survive.
17:45:11 At all. Is that gonna be a piece of this? Plan. I have 2 responses in here, obviously welcome to join in to Adrian, but So for the last thing you said, we are required now another
requirement that's new to have a resiliency, we are required now another requirement that's new to have a resiliency sub element to our comprehensive plans.
17:45:36 And that's from House Phil, 1181. And essentially it's climate planning. And we have, we've accepted funds from commerce or within the process.
17:45:44 So. That will involve, you know, essentially a comprehensive look at our conference plan from that lens and that involves all everything that that entails, which is the missions
would be one only one piece of that.
17:45:57 From the water side. I may have mentioned this last time or I know that the PV is familiar with this because that it just so happens that we are also engaging on the process
to update the coordinated water system plan for Jefferson Kelly.
17:46:12 The last time that was Adopted and and. 97. There's been some minor amendments since then.
17:46:19 But we are. Trying to kick start that process right now at the same time, the RFP, the request for proposals for that should be coming out in the next week or 2.
17:46:30 And it'll really be a parallel process. It just so happens. I mean, it's nice that it's going to be happening right when the 2,025 cycles happening would have been nicer.
17:46:38 Be a little earlier, like that, but in any case, there's lots of overlapping discussions happening right at the moment and that particular one is crucial we think for talking
about just carrying capacity not just our remote areas but just across the county.
17:46:55 To build on that little bit. Doesn't environmental concerns you talk that are one of the reasons we are planning because once you have a better idea of how many people we expect
to live here in the future. We're going to have a better idea of how many people we expect to live here in the future.
17:47:12 That makes it easier for us plan How can we change our policies and regulations to make sure that we are providing resources to them efficiently?
17:47:17 And, as Josh mentioned, including those projections in our new environmental, Once we know who to plan for, it makes it a lot easier for us to make sure that they.
17:47:35 Yes, we are 4 slides up. Good.
17:47:43 Yeah, I just wanted to say some water, but it's not really material at this point. We can just wait till the meeting.
17:47:52 Hmm. Go ahead, Josh. Okay.
17:47:59 Yeah, next. Do you wanna talk me more about Fel? 17.
17:48:06 I mentioned that there are new statutory requirements to engage with tribes when amending the so that's just something that we'll have to keep in mind and I know that at my
department's level, we're gonna be coming to the board soon with the proposed.
17:48:21 With proposed correspondence to the various tribes that would be affected and telling them about our planning processes and inviting them to participate.
17:48:30 Okay. Here, there are 10 essentially accounting policies, but of course there's many sub policies under those.
17:48:45 So it depends on how you count on. Only 10, but there's really more like a couple score.
17:48:48 Policies to deal with and we'll be sharing this information with the growth management steering committee and then of course eventually with the ICG as well in terms of any
proposed changes to those.
17:49:01 We want to tackle the population questions first so that we can have a number a target to work with as we continue to work on our 2025 periodic update responsibilities and then
tackle the calendar planning policies.
17:49:16 Second. I think the next slide I think you're gonna take over here. Talk about the meetings and so forth.
17:49:22 Alright, so Josh has done a great job of talking about. The fact that we are going to be doing population projections and why?
17:49:32 Here's the same of what that's going to look like in terms of work for the growth management.
17:49:37 So working from the office of financial management populations projections. The committee then gets to look at what it is, our broken line has it.
17:49:48 I think the medium projection. Over our last free reduce cycles as if they answered for us has been too bad or too low.
17:49:58 I probably do we wanna look at that plan for our future? A major part of that is, also for a new requirement looking at not just our population projections.
17:50:12 Total number of people we expect but also looking at how many people we expect in each income level. That's a new requirement for the state and the county.
17:50:19 What we see on the screen in the bottom right corner, the exit from. For a tool provided by Thomas the housing action planning tool.
17:50:34 Which you use to look at our projected population. And that actually breaks it out into whichever population.
17:50:40 Hello. Yeah, for whichever population allocation you predicted, then it's the only thing you can expect in each income level for that really That's important because we need
to be able to plan for housing for people at all income levels.
17:51:01 Because it is a state requirement and also is Do you have to? Sort out the ages of these people or, their, race, that sort of thing.
17:51:17 Is that a piece of it or just, just raw numbers? In. In. Incom.
17:51:24 It projects income and I believe there is also a different tool for looking at. Racial impacts. But don't leave the ages specifically required that state, although that is something
we can talk more about, given the 8 term just we have a bit in. Partening back to what Dave Anderson said when he presented to this body last year.
17:51:48 He talked about how OSN takes into account many factors when they provide us. It's population estimate range, including.
17:51:56 The age distribution, of course, is different than some other county.
17:52:01 That said though, there may be some things that we know are happening here that perhaps I let them is not privy to as closely as we are such as the fact that we project our
sewer system, for had luck to be available in 2025 for example.
17:52:17 And so there, you know, there's opportunity for us to refine this based on local knowledge and certain.
17:52:23 I did also just wanna point out that in the past you see that 70% that 30% split. That's what we've done before in the past.
17:52:30 70% of the growth is allocated to the urban grow areas including the city of Townsend and then 30% of the growth to the rest of the county, including the West.
17:52:40 Let me clarify. I had not heard that we were required to project population growth based on. Am I?
17:52:52 I'd heard I'd seen that in the housing element that we're required to. For housing, but does it actually start with making some assumptions about?
17:53:01 The AMI of population growth.
17:53:06 I guess I would phrase it this way and I know Adrian's been playing with this bottle and so has Joel on our accounting team.
17:53:15 What we're required to do is plan for different income bands. According to the population projection that we pick.
17:53:24 So the commerce gives us this model that we use. And we plug in, say we plugged in the low or you can plug in the high or the, you can change a few factors, you know, spit out
different numbers.
17:53:36 It'll spit out different numbers and it'll give us the numbers, it'll spit out different numbers and it'll give us the numbers essentially that we're supposed to plan for depending
on the band that we pick.
17:53:43 And I know that the Housing fun board meeting. Some folks who are really interested in this, pointed out some numbers that needed to be tweaked and I think there was some engagement
with number staff on that to recalibrate the model for us and so we're waiting for them to meet you back in order to gather that information that will provide it to the, for discussion.
17:54:00 That's my understanding how it works. That's my understanding. What I've seen is that on the level of the Brooklyn sharing committee we are not currently required to begin considering
income at that point but it will make our work later in the process with housing plan much much easier so it it's beneficial for us to start looking at it at this stage.
17:54:22 And I see that the tool. You're referencing it specifically for housing. So I'm just.
17:54:29 I'm fascinated by that because, you know, for example, I follow the income inequality index that the federal reserve does and you know our income inequality is so much higher
than King County.
17:54:43 Even, you know. And so I just, I wonder how much of that kind of local data they are including and making those projections.
17:54:51 I'm more just curious about kind of, you know, the bases we use for. Creating some of these, s targets whatever Question.
17:55:05 Thinking of Jeff sitting here, Jeff chatting actually. You know, for, for the bodies, our property taxes, but know, to know what we're gonna.
17:55:17 Get from the property tax for, but I've noticed over the years we seem to always beat the expectations in terms of.
17:55:26 The value of property taxes for the value of property going up. Rapidly seeing that particularly here. Jefferson.
17:55:33 Does that factor into this at all into the planning of looking at the overall value of accounting as far as property back to go.
17:55:42 As we move forward in that planning process.
17:55:51 I guess I would say not to directly with this specific task. That said, the comprehensive plan has the capital facilities, element in any other aspect of.
17:56:02 Of planning ahead to accommodate the population. And I would say that. That answers into the funding equation like you look at your tax base and different funding sources to
try to plan for and provide infrastructure to accommodate the growth that you've just allocated as a growth target.
17:56:19 So in that context, yes. And we can predict. You know, well, valuation goes up.
17:56:26 Right. You know. Portion of most of our taxes only can go up 1% with the exception of voter approved taxes and new construction.
17:56:37 But even that is a relatively predictable amount, you know, barring major recessions, but it's.
17:56:43 I don't know. I don't wanna speak out of term, but I, would, would, or sitting here, but I get, I get the sense it is, it is not that difficult to predict.
17:56:53 The. The regular levies of, of our local governments. Yeah.
17:57:02 Would you disagree, John?
17:57:04 Hey, depending on what legislature does. Well, actually, it's not a lot of residential. Which would drive a Okay.
17:57:26 We'll see. If you're going to the idea that we put 2 ADUs on, And then if it's, based on the, Okay.
17:57:48 So who can try? Yeah, you're right. I mean, I don't see that 1% change.
17:57:55 Zoom. But, but again, yeah, there's so many things. Yeah, it's hard to say.
17:58:11 Didn't mean to do that. No, there's too much. Alright. This is a scheduled meetings that we've learned how starting this spring going into summer.
17:58:25 At our first meeting, which Maybe will not be scheduled on March fifth, which will find out.
17:58:31 The goal of that meeting is going to be reviewing the roles and responsibilities of the growth management and to get work on selecting that population target from between our
low medium or file.
17:58:43 After that, we're going to at our next meeting, begin looking at this housing action projection tool.
17:58:50 And, also, started talking about preliminary funding to car, and, City and County are each working on with our fund factors to try and get a better sense of.
17:59:03 Of the land we have, how much it is actually near. Critical areas that would make it.
17:59:10 In not practical to develop and how much it is near, resources that you would actually want to have access to if you were developing a.
17:59:19 Commercial or residential use such as water systems. Large separate systems or all that good stuff. From their recommending growth targets and, reporting out on relevant legislative
changes.
17:59:35 Because by then we should be seeing the state live sleep session wrapping up and that will give us a better idea of how that will impact our planning.
17:59:44 There will be a third groupman steering committee meeting to continue working with the housing action planning tool.
17:59:51 And then recommend you know population allocation to specific areas within the county. And then also talking about those.
18:00:00 Will get to report out on those 3 meetings at the May sixteenth meeting of the intergovernmental
18:00:11 And then, from there, go to the board of county commissioners in one of their main meetings.
18:00:19 To finally adopt a resolution allocating the population projections to specific areas.
18:00:26 Any questions on this show?
18:00:30 Yeah. I have a question. So, since had you pick dates for the other meetings or are you just trying to pick the date for the first one?
18:00:42 Just the day. So being first one lands in the PED, regular board meeting. Is it possible we could just move it up to the prior week and pick a day the prior week because usually
none of us are meeting.
18:00:48 The fourth week of the month. Are we? We did. But that's on Monday.
18:00:53 Could we pick a date the prior week to have it? Was unavailable that too? Sure.
18:01:02 I'm sorry about that. The prior week that, yeah, it was unavailable that too.
18:01:04 Yeah, sure. I'm sorry about that. I the next up again, the dual full thing went out and I guess we just didn't hear.
18:01:08 I mean we're all we're all here. I'm wondering could we pick Wednesday or Thursday or Friday?
18:01:12 There are some other members that aren't here that we need to be consulted. But. We'd have a good idea of what date might be.
18:01:22 And maybe we could see if we time at the end of meeting. Okay, yeah. And also, the idea was that we would simply try to find the first meeting and then at that first meeting
and then at that first meeting with all the meeting and then at that first meeting and then at that first meeting with all of the first meeting and then at that first meeting with all
of that first meeting with all the meetings and there's president.
18:01:38 The committee itself would kind of schedule this out so that we wouldn't be in a meeting and there's president presence.
18:01:41 The committee itself would kind of schedule this out so that we wouldn't be in a position of having to do a pull every time.
18:01:42 Yeah, so the PV will meet prior to any of those meetings next week so we could pick our representative but I think it'd be desirable tonight if we could figure out.
18:01:49 What that first one is. Just about out of time for this agenda item. And I don't want to rush you, but last last slide here is just the second half of the meeting schedule.
18:02:03 Alright, once we get through our meetings, in the spring and summer in the fall, we're looking at another growth management sharing committee to keep discussing and becoming
wide planning policies and recommending amendments that are needed to those.
18:02:14 Result of the reserving fifth meeting just as a placeholder for wrapping off any planning work on that.
18:02:20 At the September meeting, oh, this group, the Growth Management Steering Committee, would be presenting those proposed amendments.
18:02:28 And then bringing those finally to the board account commissioner and city council. The forward county commissioners would be formally adopting those amendments and then city
council would be.
18:02:39 Discussing consistency with the city's comprehensive plan to make sure that it is still. In alignment with the.
18:02:51 Nice work. I'm curious. I'm just looking at the 10. Planning policies.
18:03:02 How, how do those differ and those include many elements that will be part of each of our conference planning processes.
18:03:09 How do they differ?
18:03:13 I would say that they just said, So if you think about other counties that have many cities. Account, plan policies to set the overarching.
18:03:25 Pattern or framework for all the various cities, including the county to do their corporate plan. And that's why.
18:03:33 Happen here for us in the nineties. So, And then they say the accounting adopted their coffee conference plans.
18:03:41 Like, 98. And so, but then we haven't actually found it necessary. To revisit those and we may reach the same conclusion, although I would suggest that this time perhaps it
is kind of revisit those and see where we'll have to see how this shapes out whether the summer call schedule really works that way.
18:04:01 Once we dive into those, there could be a lot of discussion, but I guess back to your question, and you know, I'd say that.
18:04:06 As long as, I guess from a staff standpoint, would probably be recommending some fairly minor updates.
18:04:14 Since they their overarching framework has worked for so far but that said once we dive into them we can end up amending them and then they just set again the pattern so that
when the county doesn't finish it's 2025 periodic update in the city does the same.
18:04:29 PLANS and they're corresponding to plants and their corresponding development regulations we need to be consistent with.
18:04:34 People, So for example, the County by transportation facilities and strategies. That would be, discussing kind of how the county and city and.
18:04:48 UGA, I'm actually, LAMARD. Will go about participating in decision making around transportation which is different than the transportation element of each of our comprehensive
plants, which go into much greater detail. That's great.
18:05:06 And I like the way that Krishna, plants, which go into much greater detail. That sounds good.
18:05:11 And I like the way that Krishna Randall described it as well of what happened already in G and in general.
18:05:13 Or anyone did their GMA plans. I mean, local governments have had plans under different statutes prior to January, but it wasn't that was the first.
18:05:21 Real state by planning, planning programming. So. And so in order to make that happen, I think the statues, multiply this process by which the county would engage in discussion
with the cities and a coordination in the cities establishes overall policies that then would be the overarching blue in the sense to tie it all together but yeah we'll have to see
What happens when we crack these open again?
18:05:49 But I think in general what you're saying makes sense. They're supposed to be much more general and over.
18:05:58 It'll be kind of an interesting history lesson too. Yes, I think when you read through and it'll kinda harken back to what were the issues we were wrestling with in the 19 nineties
like when totally discussed and you know we're in a different reality.
18:06:14 We have I think different awareness of things like affordable housing and we're we're going to be providing infrastructure so hopefully we can you know look at it and then take
it forward and have it continue to be.
18:06:26 A way that we all talk about problems and we're like, okay, we kind of see a common agreement as to how that speaking of a story, there is a white paper essentially that goes
along with those who will help tell some of the story behind the actual language.
18:06:42 Okay.
18:06:45 So just for some clarity, I heard some generalization on timeline. Does the county in the city have a hard fast deadline for this group's feedback or any other groups or public
feedback or testimony.
18:06:59 Hey, isn't that? Looks like.
18:07:02 Well, I would imagine you have a deadline to submit your plan, but if there's there's gonna be probably some leeway in there for the city in the county to harmonize, you know,
make sure everyone's on the same page.
18:07:14 I is that the deadline that you the county in the city have to submit or I'm talking about more about for feedback and deadlines from the public or this type of a committee.
18:07:24 So I was like, the statutory deadline is June 30, 2025 at this stage. Okay. Okay.
18:07:36 Yup, yeah, so okay, so for the purposes the county board and the city council, do you see yourselves wanting us a hard deadline for this kind of feedback?
18:07:47 Just curious. This particular group, you know, how long of a life should it have or will it have?
18:07:55 Yeah, that's more of a question for the group itself. I don't have an answer to that one, but what we set up, we projected this meeting schedule keeping in line the quarterly
meeting schedule of this spot.
18:08:07 So we're trying to get some things done for the main meeting and then trying to get some things done before the September meeting.
18:08:11 As simple as that, but it also gives us some time then to. Make sure that the planning work that we're already going to be undertaking starting soon.
18:08:20 We've already kind of started it, but we're going to hire up itself and start to really dive into this stuff.
18:08:28 On a parallel track, we wanna make sure that we don't wait too long for the growth allocation decision, for example, or will be pretty far along and we won't have that target
in place yet.
18:08:40 Alright, we need to wrap up. No, sorry. Go ahead.
18:08:46 I was just hoping we could wrap up or table this. I know I think I'm next on the agenda and if you guys recall I've got a kind of I'm double booked so I got I got a booking
over to the only cat meeting as soon as I can.
18:08:57 So. I was just talking to move on.
18:08:58 Okay, sure. Yeah.
18:09:03 Alright, thank you very much. Josh and Adrian, very informed. Just one note on the May, 16 meeting that's gonna be the presentation.
18:09:16 A check-in point, all weekport connectors will be out of town that day. So we can put that to zoom in, but you know, there won't be any in person port presence for the IT.
18:09:33 Nick will be in Scots. Maybe we should all go to school. We do ropes for for dinner.
18:10:03 I'm sure brother's hand is gonna give us an update on the. Okay.
18:10:06 Okay, sorry I couldn't be there with you guys, but I do have a complicated schedule this evening.
18:10:11 I will, I guarantee I will take less than the 30Â min allotted on the agenda though, cause I really do have to go.
18:10:27 Wow.
18:10:16 But I'll leave some time for questions too. The big the big thing that I want to report out is that our kind of the I don't have a slide deck because there's about 20Â h of
meetings a week for recompete basically as Aaron knows, he and Erica Taves have been dragged in and it's it's Byzantine.
18:10:37 I'm meeting with Josh tomorrow because even the 60 K that we have. And the strategy grant dedicated to kind of starting the conversation about Glenn Cove.
18:10:43 Is complicated. Any of these grants with EDA is complicated. So, you know, even our contractor situation is, more challenging and time consuming than we, expected from the get
go.
18:11:04 But the the big news is that we have pulled Glencove off the front burner and locally and pushed the.
18:11:27 Expansion of the boat yard to the kind of our
18:11:34 Or
18:11:39 Infrastructure.
18:11:43 Project.
18:11:48 We meet weekly with
18:11:54 Jefferson.
18:12:34 A contingent.
18:12:38 Bringing Jeffrey.
18:12:41 Health care end is coming week to join representatives from the city, the port. The county to kind of just oh and that wouldn't vote school to talk about
18:13:02 So with
18:13:06 Different strategies. It's been really helpful and it's been great to have Betsy at the table as well.
18:13:09 Our coalition is growing by leaps and bounds. It has all 4 cities in the North Olympic Peninsula and I'm doing a lot of outreach right now as well as other members to some of
the, the tribal nations like the Ho and even the, that are.
18:13:24 Associated with the project to the south of us to see if we can get more. If we can provide more.
18:13:27 Services to those, communities and make it worth their while because, it's, it really is a time suck.
18:13:30 I mean, that's one of the biggest dickering things is how are Lots of braided funds that are going into it.
18:13:30 There's an SFI grant that's gonna pay for some of Amanda Christopherson's time, our grant writer as well as the, writers from the Port of Portangelis and, And Portangelis itself,
I'm sorry, Calm County.
18:13:34 So the Glencove project basically was, is just not as right as the boatyard project and the straight line from infrastructure improvements to jobs created.
18:13:38 Really is very tight with the with the boat yards project and it nests really well with the wooden boat school.
18:13:41 Which has not been invited to be a coalition member yet, but that we're building that Nexus right now.
18:13:43 So we're gonna have requests out to, you know, members of this body, the port will be leading that, boat yard expansion project. We're gonna need lots of 8,900 forms, which
demonstrate a commitment to new jobs.
18:13:50 And we would love to, but it's just not going to be funded in the same way.
18:13:51 We hope that the eco-industrial park at the But, right now we're focusing on a lot of data gathering, trying to identify those pegs, which is, an how we were we use it as a
noun as well to talk about those folks that are aged 25 to 54 and are in full time employment right now.
18:13:54 We think there's about 2,700. Across the North Olympic region and a lot of the work now is trying to bolster up the barrier and work force development.
18:14:03 So we're looking at a lot of social service programs, child care stipends and things like that so if you guys are, in tune with workforce development or barriers to people getting
into those jobs.
18:14:19 Those are areas we're doing a lot of data collection on, but if you have ideas, reach out to me and we can interface you with the appropriate people.
18:14:25 I'm not on the barrier subcommittee. I'm on a job creation subcommittee. There's you know lots of subcommunities.
18:14:34 There was 15Â h of meetings this week but it's going well. I think the coalition is, is, working through our growing pains to.
18:14:43 Please your strength. The boat yard expansion has some additional infrastructure improvements with an outfall that was discovered that I think is really interested Jefferson
health care.
18:14:54 I think that's why they've asked to come to the table as well. So I think that that boatyard expansion as well as being a narratively really tight for the grant also has a lot
of capacity to bring in some strong letters of support.
18:15:07 So We're trying to push if you were call we had 8 million dollars slotted from our initial application or Glenn Cove We're still kind of, you know, if no other projects come
to the fore, maybe looking for a million dollars for design if we get to that point but the principally what we're trying to do is get that I think correct me if I'm wrong Aaron but
9.4 million
18:15:32 dollars. To fully fund the Westward boat yard expansion as the infrastructure element on East Jefferson County. Forks has been really involved and I will say to the boatyard
programs.
18:15:44 Cause we don't have a guarantee that we haven't voted on the full funding of the boat yard, but even Rod Fleck who is really an advocate for the West in, was breathless in his
enthusiasm for the strength of the boatyard project.
18:15:59 So I think we have a lot of support to get that project. Across the finish line and there might be an additional infrastructure project and forks but it's gonna run it into
the same problems that the Glen Cove did is that just you know a gleaming an eye is is not the kind of project that the EDA seems to want to fund.
18:16:18 So there's a lot of a lot of paperwork and engineering the ports hoping to get the boatyard project to 30% engineering before the application deadline or 30% design excuse me.
18:16:31 So yeah, I, I will stop there if there's specific things that people want me to report out on.
18:16:38 I, you know, it's gonna be over and done before the next meeting, but I'm happy to send a newsletter out to this group.
18:16:41 If there's something specific that I can answer that I can't right now. Yes, Dan.
18:16:53 Yeah, thanks, Greg. Just curious because of the kind of changing direction. The piff money that was allocated to the Glencoe project, is that going to be, is that something
those funds for right now in a different direction or is that something you still need for your research and development on that project.
18:17:19 Still moving forward with Glen Cove planning, community meeting, you know, working on a slide deck this week.
18:17:23 So still planning on using that 2 50 K from the infrastructure fund for design essentially. So that money will pretty much go straight to the city. We're not quite there right
now. We're gonna use the 60 K
18:17:35 One of the big issues too is that, you know, there wasn't full-throated support for the Glenn Cove project. And I, as I
18:17:54 Looking at the data, one of the. One bit that stands out to me is, you know, we had this survey of 17.
18:18:03 17
18:18:13 Business owners in Glencove. And asking.
18:18:23 I'm a myriad of questions and basically the 3 businesses that had the biggest footprints you know, Eden saw Frederick's electric and, Atlas technologies.
18:18:30 You know, said we will create a hundred 21 new jobs if we can get this infrastructure that we need.
18:18:33 We need to grow where that design fund becomes is you know Not practical at a certain point, but right now we're still planning on moving forward with things and looking for
other funding.
18:18:35 There's a lot of other funding options that might be able to push blunt code forward.
18:18:36 Yeah, I wasn't looking to diminish the Glencoe project. It's all good projects.
18:18:40 I just curious about the urgency of the recompete for the purposes, you know, that of the money needed and that sort of thing.
18:18:45 So that was my only question, reason for the question.
18:18:48 Quite frankly, it's a relief to take that April 20 fifth deadline off the Glencoe project because it's just pushing it through the public.
18:18:56 It was it was too too steep of a pace but another 2 50 is still very valuable.
18:19:03 Feel like there was something I was gonna say. I don't know. Any other questions that I can answer now?
18:19:08 Hey, do you wanna just do a quick reminder for folks of the 2 different phases of the grants and the timeline?
18:19:14 And the funding.
18:19:15 True. So it's EDA funding. That's, I kinda talked about the thesis behind the grant.
18:19:27 April 20 fifth is the deadline to apply for the phase 2 50 million dollar grant. About 5 to 10 million of that would just be admin for Klan County.
18:19:36 2 thirds of it is barrier. Barrier removal and workforce development and about. About a third is infrastructure development.
18:19:45 Yeah, April 20 fifth. So we were one of 22. Applicants out of you know hundreds that that was invited to apply for this phase 2 funding in April.
18:19:58 So this this money is There, Grace Harbor, Pacific County had a partnership which was invited to.
18:20:02 They they got a strategy grant like we did but they were not invited to apply for that 50 million dollar.
18:20:09 Windfall this year. So. We're having our first in person meeting, March fifth in port Angela to kind of work on the neat narrative structure, but it's a 5 year horizon to spend
out the 50 million dollars and EDA has been very clear that they really Expect concrete results in that time, you know, if there's a project that has a longer horizon, they're willing
to look at
18:20:31 it, but they've They also reserve the right to cherry pick projects out of applications and say, we'll find this one.
18:20:38 We're not going to find this one and we'll fund this one. So. It's in our best interest to make a project a suite of projects that are inextricably linked.
18:20:51 And for.
18:20:51 And I seen it, transportation is one of the barriers that we keep hearing about. And there's a lot of effort to get out to the, send the marginalized folks on the West End down
in South County on the east east side of Jefferson County as well.
18:21:07 And I think access. I'm thinking about that carpool van that we never use, Nicole.
18:21:12 But there's, transportation is one of the big gaps that we've encountered so far in child care.
18:21:20 Okay.
18:21:19 And 4 of the 22 will be selected for the 50 million dollar grant, correct?
18:21:26 Good day.
18:21:26 I thought it was more than that. No, I think it's more like 10. I think we had like a 50 50 not now, my thought.
18:21:30 Okay. I don't know. I thought only 200 million was appropriated.
18:21:38 That too.
18:21:44 I'm not, I'm not sure.
18:21:39 Yeah. Thank you. That's okay. She's saying 6 to 8.
18:21:50 Yeah.
18:21:49 So it's somewhere between 4 and 10. She's saying 6 to 8. So it's somewhere between 4 and 10. That's Jefferson County.
18:22:00 We're always trying to. So it's somewhere between 4 and 10. That's Jefferson County.
18:22:00 I prefer the high projection. The high projection is what we're gonna go for.
18:22:06 We're always trying to close somewhere. Alright, any questions, comments for Greg?
18:22:15 Let me off easy. When do we find out? Do.
18:22:23 June, yeah.
18:22:26 I would just add that this recompete opportunity is sparked and numbers very, and the opportunity is sparked and then, very's very interesting conversations in the community
and.
18:22:39 A number of us were out on the other night with a bunch of folks from the wood products industry in Johnson County and it's There's a lot of excitement about building, economic
development capacity in a number of sectors that have been.
18:22:48 Kind of generated or fueled by this recompute conversation happening. So. I'm really excited to see what happens around those tables as well.
18:22:58 And how they get folded into the deck of all this expansion and job, creation that we'll be doing over the next.
18:23:04 5 years, I guess. Yeah.
18:23:05 And we're looking to get that forest collective, some dollars as part of, and really getting them associated with Enric as well, which is a regional natural resources innovation
center and it really dovetails.
18:23:16 We've been looking for a nexus with Jefferson County so that that group that that Heidi is talking about is That's fine for me.
18:23:23 We were looking at the expansion yesterday and it's looking like it's gonna get even bigger than we thought.
18:23:31 So, it literally could double the size of heavy all out, which, you know, from an alcoholic perspective, And, so really exciting, Greg, to see you on board like this and I think
it's exciting for the port and it's exciting to see.
18:23:50 The port kinda get the baton move as fast as it can move to make this happen. So.
18:23:55 Yeah, awesome. That's why Aaron does much cheese as he needs. If you want to add Aaron?
18:24:06 Hmm. No, I don't think so. Is that happy to be working together? We, You know, we're fortunate to have the engineering team in place and we're full speed ahead, the breakout,
the engineering report.
18:24:19 Working closely with the city team on this. You know, get a product that will work. HOPED us already on this project.
18:24:26 That's great. Okay. Okay, man, would you like to? Yeah, and introduce yourself.
18:24:40 I don't see other stuff. And then I know, how do you think, and things like that, but I was, I was on the, and I'll say, and the thing that was really exciting today, I'll think
of the thing that was really exciting today.
18:24:53 And long conversation about the about just the workforce development ecosystem that already. About just the workforce development ecosystem that already, you know, half work
in the maritime sector.
18:25:00 And long conversation with Bethy about just the workforce development ecosystem that already, you know, half work in the maritime You know, that 2 thirds that Greg is mentioning
for the people and the sort of the training associated with the infrastructure is what's really exciting.
18:25:09 To me about, is the recognition for EDA that as a region, we know what our people need in order to get back to the workplace and some are.
18:25:20 Community. Based organization like the Northwest Mayor, that's better and our training capability is like in with us, or really, you know, the PTA and all of these pulling together
and really recognize and all of these pulling together and really recognize it and really recognize it and hopefully building that capacity by giving them dollars to do.
18:25:39 I think it's really cool opportunity for and in terms of, you know, being wanted, so that we were one at 565 applicants to this program and those 22 by the applicants to this
program and those 22 applicants you can read all of the narrative applicants you can read all of the narratives on the EDA website and a lot of them are from the EDA website and a lot
of them are from urban
18:26:02 areas on the EDA website and a lot of them are from urban areas, a very, and a lot of them are from urban areas.
18:26:06 A very, and so I think what differentiates that is the fact that we are in the world.
18:26:10 And so I think what differentiates that, and so I think what differentiates that is that we are, and, and so we need everything.
18:26:12 We need infrastructure. We need investment for workforce development. We needed that. And you know, it's it's a hardest, but it hopefully it's compelling that we can show demonstrated
model that can be replicated in.
18:26:31 We can show demonstrated model that can be replicated in, in the, of the, range, but hopefully it's compelling that we can show demonstrate the model that can be replicated
in, in, in Thanks to all of you who are spending a ton of time on this.
18:26:37 Cool. Alright.
18:26:37 Thank you, the time leader on this one. Yeah.
18:26:40 Amanda went to the all day virtual summit, but I gotta sign off to go to another thing, but I'll look forward to seeing you guys in person next time.
18:26:46 Okay. Thanks, Greg. Alright, we'll do that. Which is, you know, we think that will integrate in, you know, this project, which is, you know, we think that will integrate in,
you know, this from our component that Greg mentioned that super beneficial in the city perspective along with that the Larry Scott Trail spur that we've talked about.
18:27:10 You know this project will need to build that essentially from H to probably the extent of where the maintenance operation is today because that will be the city's access road
to be able to maintain the stormwater facility.
18:27:25 So, you know, it'll advance pretty rapidly. You know, that component of the trail project.
18:27:31 Which is also 2, 2 components that would be necessary to make it work, but are.
18:27:39 Fully integrated. You have separate objectives that have. More broad benefit. Right.
18:27:48 Alright. Anything else? Great. Let's bring.
18:27:57 Talk to those about emergency management. Welcome, Willie.
18:28:00 And good evening, everyone. Thanks for having me. Let me get this up real quick. Alright, so I think I know most folks in the room, but for those who I don't know, my name is
Willie Bence.
18:28:14 I'm the director for the Department of Emergency Management in Jefferson County. I wanted to really briefly update you all on some acronyms you may or may not understand.
18:28:22 I'm gonna go through this. I'm pretty rapid fire. But 3 different projects, different planning projects and we have here in the Department of Emergency Management that I think
are of particular interest to you all.
18:28:34 I'm gonna go through first and foremost our hazard mitigation plan. I'm something we're nearing the finish line on.
18:28:39 After a long slog through so we're excited to talk with you all a little bit about that.
18:28:45 The comprehensive emergency management plan is our next planning project coming on that we've just started. I'm particularly interested to bring that to you all tonight as there
are some additional opportunities for collaboration and some questions that we have there.
18:29:01 And finally, wanted to bring to light a planning committee that we're starting, I'm likely in quarter 2 of this year so wanted to make you all aware on that that was coming
down the pipeline as well.
18:29:13 As each of these 4 governmental bodies and will have a role to play under that lepsey or local emergency planning committee.
18:29:22 First and foremost, the hazard mitigation plan is, as the title suggests, a plan listing the mitigation strategies for dealing with the hazards we face in Jefferson County.
18:29:33 So mitigation mean lessening of the impacts of. It's not a response plan. It's projects specifically designed to reduce our vulnerability to disasters.
18:29:44 It's about a 1,100 pages or so. You can see that the following link or on our website with the Department of Emergency Management.
18:29:54 Now, we initially started this, back in 2022. That work continued to stall due to the ongoing pandemic response here in DE.
18:30:04 M. Continued to stall due to the ongoing pandemic response here in DEM continued to stop and start throughout, 2,023 as we had some staff turnover in our already small department.
18:30:11 And we actually ended up doing this plan update entirely in-house rather ironically due to delays in potential FEMA funding and their support through pandemic.
18:30:19 Okay. Okay.
18:30:21 And that ended up causing us further delays, doing it entirely in such a small house. However, we are nearing completion.
18:30:29 With a rough draft, I'm almost ready for circulation and review by the Emergency Management Division at the State and FEMA.
18:30:36 So within the hazard mitigation plan, a couple of the different elements. I'm one of the first things we did was identify natural and man-made hazards presenting potential consequences
in Jefferson County.
18:30:49 Which that consisted of a list of hazards as well as a threat analysis, a ranking of what was of importance to us as well as, to our constituents, the community.
18:30:59 And we had 27 hazards in total. And we received about 84 survey rankings from the general public as well as about 50 or so on mitigation.
18:31:11 Project ideas from our community. And so this specific segment of the plan has actually been done for quite a while. And this was the first picture.
18:31:21 Particular element. That we had tackled. Second
18:31:37 On the next major component of the plan was to build a jurisdictional profile. I'm based on all of the order.
18:32:16 I.
18:32:21 And
18:32:23 Operating agencies in Jefferson County, their assets.
18:32:39 Their service area, their population, a number of different elements. We first started with, partners.
18:32:52 In this plan called coordinating entities. They're not our entities who
18:33:14 To fully adopt the plan but their input is still important nevertheless and we had 19 total of these coordinating entities participating in the mitigation plan.
18:33:34 Those are all as follows. Those were completed next. So we work with those partners to update their particular slice of the mitigation plan, including folks from the state,
our partners over in Kalam, and a few other, key local partners that were identified as part of the planning process.
18:33:48 Last but not least the most difficult part of the plan on most resource intensive and the one that's taken us the longest and work with our partners, the participating jurisdiction.
18:33:56 So these are our full participants in the plan and folks who actually have to adopt the plan at the end of the process.
18:34:01 And by their governing body. And these, jurisdiction profiles tend to be a little bit more complex, a little bit more involved.
18:34:04 We had 22 total of those participating jurisdictions and that's where we stand now. We currently have, all but just about 2 wrapped up and we needed some additional data from
the city of Port Townsend.
18:34:14 They're being one of the most complex, jurisdiction profiles, as part of the mitigation plan.
18:34:21 We also have one more school district, who's still working on getting some data for their particular piece of the plan.
18:34:24 And then we will have all the required elements that we need to put this plan together. From there, our next steps is to finalize those last 2 pieces of data from our participating
jurisdiction partners.
18:34:28 I'm incorporate all those plan elements together and conduct our final review, what's called the FEMA Crosswalk, to ensure the plan meets all the prescribed elements.
18:34:31 Then it will go simultaneously as a complete rough draft to the State Emergency Management Division as well as to our partners for I won't make any necessary changes and finally
submit it.
18:34:38 FEMA for approval. We're hoping to have it to FEMA. I'm for approval, in early April or so at this point in time.
18:34:49 And then after FEMA approval will be coming to all of those participating jurisdictions listed earlier, for final adoption, by their governing bodies.
18:34:51 So we're awfully close and it's been a long slog, just about 2 years now we've been updating this plan. And so we put
18:34:56 The partnership from the folks who have been working on it. And doing it in house in such a small department has been difficult for us.
18:35:05 But we are nearly there. We are happy to say and happy to finally put this behind us since we do have. 2 plans, we're working on coming up this, calendar year.
18:35:09 So before I go on to those 2,
18:35:09 As a reminder, Willie or Josh, it gets adopted by reference in the comprehensive plan as well, correct?
18:35:20 Yes.
18:35:18 I believe so. Okay. See any other questions? Will the, it says partners for review under your step 3.
18:35:26 Yes, that's that's that phase. So once we have everything together, conduct that FEMA crosswalk,
18:35:25 Is there a point where the participating jurisdictions will get to see the Hold plan.
18:35:27 I just wanna flag, I'm gonna port, particularly, to make sure that there's language other than just in the port section.
18:35:28 Specifically addressing sea level rise. You know kind of partnership with the city on that in that regard.
18:35:32 Yeah. Oh, go ahead.
18:35:32 Well, are there processes or other grant making opportunities or, state processes that require. How's our mitigation plan?
18:35:50 Is it is it a foundational plan to other planning processes? I heard it's not mentioned on the top plan, but.
18:35:56 Just curious how it right then with other planning process, these are other.
18:36:01 Yeah, it's a particularly important plan for grant funding, which is why we want to kind of get this through as quickly as possible.
18:36:12 So it's not going to be as collaborative of a process and it hasn't been over the past, I'm honestly few years as we would have liked just given limited staff time.
18:36:19 And because to receive FEMA hazard mitigation money, you need a, up to date mitigation plan.
18:36:25 So, because it is so incredibly foundational, we are trying to get this through as quickly as possible.
18:36:32 Got it. Just confirming that. Thanks.
18:36:35 Yeah.
18:36:38 Alright, next one.
18:36:39 Perfect. So the next one that we're excited to move on to once we have this in the rear view mirror and is our comprehensive emergency management plan.
18:36:52 Okay.
18:36:49 This is also available on our website. I think the first and foremost thing we're going to change about this plan was written before my time here.
18:37:02 Oh, gee.
18:37:00 So I do have to excuse myself for this. They thought they were putting the hood canal bridge on the cover of the plan, but the hood can now break in 4 lanes. So the
18:37:08 Okay.
18:37:08 Big mistake and I think the first thing we're changing. I'm in this plan update.
18:37:13 Which is that? Okay. Okay. Yeah.
18:37:24 Bye.
18:37:19 Yeah, I honestly don't know. I just realized, that shortly after I hear and started to thumb through it that,
18:37:30 Jefferson
18:37:30 About 20. Nice try. Okay.
18:37:32 So the, CE, consists of our emergency management basic plan, the macro view of emergency management responsibility.
18:37:41 I'm in Jefferson County as well as a few component parts that dive in. I'm to the overall strategy and how we respond to emergencies.
18:37:52 So you can see up at the very top that basic plan defines our, emergency management program at the strategic level.
18:37:56 We have annexes and we use what we call the emergency support function model, which groups, emergency response functions like law enforcement, for example, to include Washington
State Patrol, Jefferson County Sheriff, Port Townsend Police Department.
18:38:12 I'm then beyond that there are all the departmental plans and status to standard operating procedures that exist at the department level.
18:38:20 That are beyond the scope of this particular planning process. RCMP was last promulgated in April of 2018.
18:38:29 We were actually given a one and a half year extension to write this plan by the emergency management division. They were a little bit more understanding than FEMA was and when
it came to the Hazard M.
18:38:41 Management Division, they were a little bit more understanding than FEMA was a little bit more understanding than FEMA was and when it came to the hazard mitigation plan.
18:38:46 So this plan is currently due on December 30 first of this year. Now, few things of note on the requirements for the Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan have changed since
it was last updated in 2,018.
18:38:55 Last time around when we reviewed this plan, we received a 66% and the, the threshold for approval was 65%.
18:39:04 So we just scraped by with a passing grade. I'm under the new requirements that were put in place in 2019 were at a 44% with a bar set at about 75 so we have a little bit of
work to do to get up to the new standard put forward by the state.
18:39:21 Among those things was clearly and concisely defining our intent for what this plan, looks like.
18:39:30 What are our goals and objectives, desired in state? I'm going to run you through those very quickly.
18:39:33 And we talked about this at our monthly incident management team meeting. I know, council member McGregor, and I think most of you have representatives at that meeting, but
I really do encourage and the fewer your agency can attend.
18:39:46 It's where we discuss on kind of the direction forward for things like this, but happy to share it here at the ICG.
18:39:53 This plan is not, kind of a quick access guide, nor is it meant to be, a plan for every single scenario under the book.
18:40:03 It defines broad policy and guidance. So a lot of folks immediately want to make sure that it's easily and easily readable and kind of in a checklist format but this strikes
the balance between being unreadable and then being too light on language and policy.
18:40:18 Objective 2, and we established some new emergency operations center conditions on which define, what are activation levels for the EOC look like, as well as different metrics
for activation triggers when we activate the emergency operations center.
18:40:37 And this is something that I actually would not mind at all coming back to one of these forums to talk with you all a little bit more about.
18:40:42 I'm to shed some light as to when and where we activate the EOC and specifically what that means and what that looks like.
18:40:49 Since that's a question we get quite a bit. This objective has already been met. This was actually one of the very first things we worked on.
18:40:56 So we have new activation levels as well as triggers for each and we've been socializing that within our EOC team over the past couple of months.
18:41:05 I'm objectives 3 through 7, less important. Incorporate some of our new emergency support function groupings and corporate female lifelines.
18:41:14 It's disaster assessment and a damage assessment model. We've been working with our neighborhood preparedness groups on a new program for them that we're going to incorporate.
18:41:22 We're working hard to improve our communications section. And finally, we want to incorporate our lessons learned from the COVID.
18:41:29 19 response since those were pretty numerous over our 3 year EOC activation. Specifically for this group though, I'm our final and certainly last but not least objective, and
is to improve and better define the relationship between the city and county, which as it exists in the 2,018 plan is a little bit vague.
18:41:50 So I have a meeting on the book shortly with councilmember M Mchaeger to talk about that and to strategize how we can start having those conversations and better hammer out
what that looks like. We want to improve on what that looks like.
18:42:02 We want to improve on what that looks like. We want to improve on what's called our policy management group, which met, we want to improve on what's called our policy management
group, which met, 3 times a week in the early portions of the pandemic group, which met, 3 times a week in the early portions of the pandemic.
18:42:13 Tone down to about once a week throughout the latter portions. I'm meeting with Dr. Locke and then, in the early portions of the pandemic, tone down about once a week throughout
the latter portions. I'm meeting with Dr.
18:42:18 Locke and then Dr. Barry on the overall pandemic strategy. I think there's some interesting conversations we can have in working with the ICG to better define how this group
interacts with that policy group when the EOC is activated during times of emergency.
18:42:29 So something we want to focus on over the coming months.
18:42:33 I'm done so far, can conditions and triggers have been developed. We've been working on our public communications section.
18:42:40 I'm started to work on first and foremost our health and medical section of the plan based on pandemic lessons learned as well as our communications section.
18:42:49 And I've started working on some responsibilities. I'm at the federal and state level there.
18:42:54 The timeline will be reaching out through each emergency support function, which does include on every organization in this room.
18:43:03 I'm so there's one for public works. One for energy, transportation. So do expect some outreach as we work to define the roles and responsibilities under each one of those specific
functions and go section by section to review, based on a checklist that we've put together based on that state guide.
18:43:22 We're going to be meeting with the city to discuss some follow up issues. And again, I'd love for this group to consider some additional work we can do on the emergency management
front in this form.
18:43:31 I hope this isn't the last time I get to participate in one of these. We're targeting August for our review of a rough draft of that plan, for a review by the Emergency Management
Division in September and then our final edits through the last quarter of the year.
18:43:47 Any questions on CEMP before I wrap up with my last 2 slides on what's called a lepsey?
18:43:56 You can't see if they're Okay. Go ahead, really.
18:44:04 Alright, last but not least we're going to be standing up what's called a lepsey or local emergency planning committee.
18:44:13 And these are established by whack 11840, which was last updated in 1,998.
18:44:20 And we've never actually had one of these committees together in Jefferson County. Specifically these committees are tasked with reviewing local inventories of hazardous materials.
18:44:33 Facility owners who house hazardous materials will know those is EPA tier 2 reports under the community right to no act.
18:44:38 Which basically states the community has a right to know which hazardous materials are being stored in their community.
18:44:44 What hazardous materials are being transported through their community and what the response plan is for those substances.
18:44:51 So due to a relatively low risk in Jefferson County, you know, we don't have particularly large storage of hazardous materials, we don't have a plant that manufactures an excessive
amount.
18:45:02 And we certainly do have, how there's materials transported through and in our community, but we don't have, you know, larger rail system or things of that As such, we don't
really have a lot of response capacity.
18:45:14 However, it's been long overdue to stand this committee up and this will take, every participant within this meeting.
18:45:23 And this will take, every participant within this meeting, we are going to be asking for your participant within this meeting we are going to be asking for your participation
as we look to stand this long overdue on LEPC and get them up and running.
18:45:30 We're currently putting together our stakeholder list and working with the Emergency Management Division on a draft plan.
18:45:37 I'm right now we're targeting a late quarter to date to establish the committee targeting I think right now the first or second week of June.
18:45:47 I'm so we're looking to put invites out here in the next couple of weeks for that.
18:45:49 Yeah.
18:45:50 I'm Q, 3. This will be a once a quarter group to meet. We'll review the plan and suggest some changes.
18:45:55 And then by quarter 4 of this year, actually have a hazardous materials response plan. For Jefferson County as well as opportunities for the general public to participate in
and review on the hazardous materials that are being stored and transported through their community, which is again really important, essential, and a mandated by law.
18:46:14 I'm chicken, we haven't been, haven't been in observation of when it comes to the establishment of this committee.
18:46:20 So that's where we are with that. Again, looking for participation and support on that coming up as well.
18:46:27 So expect to hear more from that in a couple of weeks. Other than that, I appreciate you, listening and you go through this really fast.
18:46:34 Happy to take questions.
18:46:36 Good to Commissioner Kelsey at the Mission Patrol. I'm just wondering about, an accident at Indian Island.
18:46:45 Hmm.
18:46:45 So they will be an important partner in the local emergency planning committee. They can't disclose.
18:46:53 Anything and everything that they transport through the county or store on Indian Island. But I will say they do an excellent job of in the room of safety and in the realm of
transportation things are often broken down into component parts and things of that nature.
18:47:08 So they will be a stakeholder absolutely we've already gotten support from them they will be a stakeholder and a participant but there will be a few caveats in that specifically
about what can be disclosed.
18:47:20 So I think that will draw a lot of interest from the community as well and a big reason for participation.
18:47:26 Right, like, like, like, like, like, a, question for trying to get the same question.
18:47:32 Yep. And honestly, I will say given their procedures and you know the national security risk, you know.
18:47:40 They're they're not one of the reasons I stay up at night. I will just say that much they do a great job over there
18:47:48 I mean, they are. I won't go that far, but they do a good.
18:47:46 They are not. One of the reasons you Thank you. Alright, anything else for Willie?
18:47:59 Great. Well, thank you so much. Sounds like we will be engaging further on these and it sounds like you have a busy year.
18:48:06 Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
18:48:08 Thanks, for still being here, Willie. I remember when we kind of had the rotating door to office so glad you're still on the job.
18:48:14 Yeah, absolutely. Happy to be here. Thank you for still having me on my own, not a lot of folks made it through the pandemic.
18:48:22 Emergency management was definitely in flux through a lot of those years, but yeah, appreciative to be a part of this community.
18:48:26 So thank you.
18:48:29 Alright, and we have our round table but Say, 3Â min for each jurisdiction, but just quickly outline what, what you're up to.
18:48:40 Any volunteers want to jump in? And can we try to leave time at the end for that date setting? Yes.
18:48:46 Let's try to be really quick on our round table. I would like to go first.
18:48:51 But jurisdiction updates? Yeah, like 2 to 3Â min. Oh, well, work and go first. We'll go fast. They can probably read the papers.
18:49:07 We'll go fast. They can probably run the papers, the, INTO, 1010, 10, Mobile, Travel, Lift, Award was finalized here about 2 weeks ago.
18:49:11 We expect to get through the process actually be able to order the machine in the next couple of weeks. We think we'll see it.
18:49:15 A crane in the yard getting built, early, 2025. So pretty exciting and super helpful to have that federal support.
18:49:24 Or such an important piece of equipment. This project, I think they're still working out there.
18:49:32 I'm on the camera. This happens to be the last day of in water work. And, the, the, yeah, yeah.
18:49:40 For those on the camera looking out the window towards the point husband, breakwater project. We're pretty well out of the water other than, some rock work and They count that
as a water because it falls in, so you got to send it over down, flag it, pull it up.
18:49:54 So today they're finishing up the last of the rock placement. And then over the next coming weeks you'll see the walkway get installed, punch list items, so sorts of things.
18:50:07 Maybe even up through much of March but the marina will reopen on March first. And about and you want to be part of a sort of small local celebration March first oh 700 and
you want to be part of a sort of small local celebration March first oh 700 it'll be a procession led by Emiliano and Taylor to welcome both back to the Marina.
18:50:28 And then save the day. Oh, and the new creatures that have been, repopulated the structure.
18:50:37 For your calendar save the date of April 24 we're gonna have the formal brand reopening celebration of Point Hudson.
18:50:49 Party. So look for music and cookies and the fun and excitement that afternoon. You're at LAYNED.
18:50:57 So maybe the only other thing I'd mentioned just briefly is that Please expect to have the ports a hundred year history book written by Scott Wilson published.
18:51:04 Early April and the. Sorry, I think pretty dynamic. So. Hope you find it to be as fascinating and fun as I have getting to read some early drafts.
18:51:16 And the same thing got all 3 captain commissioners here Sure, yes. We had a farm tour last week.
18:51:31 Gosh, I think they're almost 50 people are showed up to walk the farm tour last week.
18:51:36 Gosh, I think they're almost 50 people or last week. Gosh, I think they're almost 50 people are showed up to walk the farm with us, boots on and The committee is empaneled the
first official meeting of our farm steering committee is next week.
18:51:42 And they've they've got some work cut out out of them to really craft the plan that will that will solve some problems that have been persistent for many, decades.
18:51:53 But optimistic we've got the right people in the room, but a lot of expertise and interest.
18:52:00 I'm super excited about that actually. And I hope that it won't be too long before we'll have a place out at the farm or we could have a meeting just like this.
18:52:09 Kind of overlooking the valley there. I don't think we'll be able to have some kind of meetings, training, these sort of thing. It's right at the farm.
18:52:17 So. Okay. I'll add one more thing, as a comprehensive plan, shared in our Air Force master plan, which is a one every 10 years.
18:52:27 This year also, Okay. Discussion. Okay. All right, well as well. That's wow. I mean, he goes on our 3Â min. That thing.
18:52:45 And I'm sorry. And anything I miss. I guess the biggest highlight for me was when we had that really cold snap the second week of January.
18:52:55 Not just here, but all across the state of Washington. We hit higher loads and ever. And we've talked about it regionally what had to happen for EPA to have enough power to
get to us.
18:53:07 But locally we found we had a number of areas where we were short of power and some neighborhoods lost power because their particular lines were overtaxed.
18:53:17 So we've staff has identified a bunch of needed improvements at substations and in some line extensions and it was like over a hundred 1 million dollars of needed improvements
and this is like, it for me it comes back to this growth management planning we're doing.
18:53:36 And oftentimes I think electric utilities weren't really included in things like subdivision developments and plans and we've got areas of the county where just to have the
development that's kind of.
18:53:47 Happening now and it's going to continue to happen, we're going to struggle to meet it.
18:53:51 So we're looking at like a house would, what do we call that capacity charge?
18:53:58 It's kinda like a system development charge that the city charges for water or something like that for a new home.
18:54:04 That would help cover the costs of what everybody has done so far to have an electrical grid here will help them pay to have that electrical grid be here for them.
18:54:14 So, that's been sobering and some of the people who are affected by those outages have come to our meetings and are demanding that it not happen again and the fixes are expensive
but we're creatively trying to pick the lowest hanging fruit and make some improvements.
18:54:31 So. But yeah, so anyway, that's just on the electric side. I don't know if the other commissioners have anything they want to add or Kevin if you have anything you want to add.
18:54:40 Broadband update? We're. In the quill scene area where our crews are stringing 5 or we're actually starting with splice going down.
18:54:58 East Coast. We have started to few drops into houses. I'm very in the, like waiting.
18:55:10 And so it is moving along where we are. Little bit behind, but we hope with. With our crews doing a lot of the work, at least right now, we'll take up.
18:55:25 SP. Very shortly have customers connected to the Very exciting. Yeah.
18:55:34 Okay. I see the other TV commissioner's popped up. Anything you want to add?
18:55:42 Quickly.
18:55:44 Yeah, I'll add one thing and this is kind of the sins of the past, you know, coming up as we're talking about planning and things like that.
18:55:52 You know, the PED at our last meeting we talked about a lead abatement in our water supplies and I know that's something that city's gonna have to address and I think the school
districts in the county.
18:56:03 Just kind of putting that on everybody's radar there's some hard fast deadlines and some money that's going to have to be spent for potable water and and as far as letting copper
go so just another thing we gotta be thinking about in our infrastructure.
18:56:15 As we determine growth and you know where it already has happened and where it's going to go.
18:56:26 I don't think I really have much of an update to give right now. Other than I have COVID and my head is a little swimming.
18:56:34 So.
18:56:21 Yeah, thank you. Yeah. Okay, we'll get better. Okay.
18:56:38 Thank you. I don't hear my colleagues have anything to add or anyone from the city like Adrian is anything else to add at this point but Yeah.
18:56:48 Thumbs up. Okay. Adrian and, Josh. Joshua.
18:57:04 We are deep in the number of organizations and it's exciting. This would be my third complex being here in Port Townsend and this one we have the most resources most exciting
staff to work with.
18:57:17 I'm really reaching out to community. So pretty exciting. We got our kickoff from our staff at our last weeks workshop.
18:57:25 The other thing we're working hard on is we are down to our last public hearing. And, a great education is out there on our website.
18:57:40 It's been compiled for us, it's been compiled for us is, grade education is out there on our website.
18:57:47 It's been compiled for us as console, which reaches out to the whole community of who we are, what the infrastructure is, what needs to be done, what hasn't been done for a
long time.
18:57:51 It's really just singing Jeff's soft. So those are the 2 big projects. Okay, and Monica, that did remind me something I wanted to bring up.
18:58:03 Speaking of websites, the City will be launching a website focused on the comprehensive plan and public outreach for that.
18:58:10 Should go live by the end of this month. And there will be a big announcement about it on the planning page with city website.
18:58:17 So. That's where we're going to be coordinating a lot of, information about public outreach events.
18:58:22 Both virtual and Great. Can save. Just quickly, few activities, at the counting, the, like, sewer instruction is underway, largely the waste water treatment plant and we are
signing things like 10 million dollar contracts, and we are signing things like 10 million dollar contracts, and we are signing things like 10 million dollar contracts, which is a little
bit of plants and we are signing things like 10 million dollar contracts. It's a little, but great to see.
18:58:49 So that's moving along, set to come online, in 20 middle of 25 approximately.
18:58:54 The Aquatic Center, which number of books or jurisdictions have been involved with. got a lot of feedback from the public.
18:59:01 They're hoping to see more due diligence on some other construction types. And some other possible locations.
18:59:08 And so steering committee has created a task force with 2 representatives from each of the 3. commissioner districts in the county to to do some more analysis on the work done
and gather more information.
18:59:24 And be stepped by, Mark McCauley and Kerry H in the city and Wendy, from the Y.M.C.A. to help get that information it needs to do some more.
18:59:38 Analysis. So stay tuned. There is an independent financial analysis happening in Department of Commerce right now.
18:59:44 Finances of the formation of a otherwise, lots of legislative work happening, obviously, legislative session keeping a number of us busy and on road.
18:59:57 I won't go into those details. Yes. The community wildcard protection plan that we've been working on for I think 14 months or so.
19:00:08 We hit a little slight disagreement on the final draft. And. Between Chief Black with East Jefferson Fire and Emma Bolan and Steve King from the city.
19:00:19 We sort of sorted out that smooth that speed bump. Out and we're gonna revise a statement of work with our consultant and we're open to have that plan.
19:00:29 Adopted. I don't know, 30, 60 days from now. Which will open up all kinds of funding sources for mitigation work.
19:00:40 To protect against wildfire. So big step for our community, I think. First one. Yeah, we were one of 9 counties out of 39 without a plan.
19:00:51 We are gonna have one. Great. Okay, that brings us to the end of our agenda.
19:01:02 We've talked about a number of things that we will need to be, working on as a body for upcoming meetings.
19:01:11 First of the first meeting of the steering committee. We should also talk about the, ICG as well.
19:01:33 So, but typically just as a reminder, the hosting jurisdiction, but typically just as a reminder, to do as well.
19:01:40 So, but typically just as a reminder, posting jurisdiction, works with Carolyn to set the agenda.
19:01:48 But I think we have already have a number of items identified that we need to cover. And I'll just say, I'm really excited about the direction. This group is headed. We love
that we're talking about infrastructure.
19:01:55 We're talking about Have the meeting the week before? Is that doable? Did we move it up a week instead of March fifth?
19:02:00 We're also having a core name with the week before? Is that doable? Did we move it up a week instead of March fifth?
19:02:03 We're also having a coordinate with the port on the use of this room. And so every time we change the day, we've had to run it by her and make sure this room is available.
19:02:11 And so I'm not sure. If we could find the date, I imagine we could find a location.
19:02:15 It's not a huge group. We have public meeting. But give a number. We're asking.
19:02:23 Yeah, so just my schedule is probably the most limiting right now for this meeting. I'm out the Monday and Tuesday of that week.
19:02:33 I'm available after 5. On Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and that's it.
19:02:39 So you're talking about 2820 ninth first.
19:02:44 Right. 20 ninth. Thursday, 20 ninth. That's our portrait.
19:02:56 This would be an evening to that. So.
19:02:58 I think you're probably after the fifth might be your better option. I don't know.
19:03:03 Good. I mean, you know. The room will have the room set up for work too much. But That may be a possibility. What? The 29.
19:03:17 What time is your retreat over? 3. Give you guys a little break and then. Yeah, and it's really for this meeting.
19:03:24 This is the joint, the growth management. So it's, they're a paid to, it's, the, by the fourth, connection, the represent the port on that committee.
19:03:34 So it's really Eric. Yeah. Jump in there for an evening, go after the retreat.
19:03:41 I chaired me to get Olivia all that day, but I can be back by.
19:03:44 4. Maybe 5 would be safer . That 5 o'clock on Thursday the 20 ninth.
19:03:53 So Dan or Ken, do you have conflicts with? 5 o'clock. On March 20 or February 20 ninth.
19:04:01 Was there a hybrid option gonna be available or is this an in person only?
19:04:05 They'll be hybrid.
19:04:07 I can do hybrid.
19:04:09 Okay.
19:04:07 So. Yeah, if it's on the 20 ninth, Kevin and I will be in Washington DC, but I could do hybrid.
19:04:14 One way or another, I'm sure, on what?
19:04:19 What day in the week?
19:04:16 Let's take. Okay. We understand. So let's make that the date.
19:04:24 Thursday. Okay.
19:04:27 Ben and I are also on this committee. This is
19:04:32 Great.
19:04:36 I can do it. Remotely and but not. Happily.
19:04:44 Okay.
19:04:45 And I will be on an airplane, but it's Delta. So I can at least listen and talk a little bit.
19:04:52 So. I'd be happy. I'm okay with it. It has to be.
19:04:57 I. This is, again, I would rather push it out further. Than have been on a plane and me remote.
19:05:10 Don.
19:05:11 Back to And this time, please include the 3. The commissioners.
19:05:23 Well, we couldn't do that. Yes. Oh, what's that? Are you saying to the commissioner?
19:05:32 Yeah. Or both. Mary Gabr.
19:05:36 Yeah, I'm worried that this I mean if we're trying to include all 3 PD commissioners and figure timing for them.
19:05:42 This sounds like it's getting a little
19:05:42 We can we can pick a representative at our next meeting.
19:05:50 Right. Yeah.
19:05:55 Okay. And, and even the only issue right now is it's scheduled during our. What do you need in board meeting?
19:06:03 So that should have been caught. There's only one representative. So the issue they don't have a rep so they're trying to coordinate.
19:06:14 Yeah, Yeah.
19:06:20 What about that?
19:06:22 Alright, so I, I guess I'm just concerned. Adrian and Josh like How much does this hold up your progress?
19:06:30 To not have the population calculations to be able to run with. It's not ID.
19:06:41 Yeah.
19:06:45 If.
19:06:48 We really were hoping to have it done before this meeting and. Of course we do need everybody to be able to be there so as soon as we can do it is after the fifth and that's
what it's going to be but it's Our meetings from, 3 to 6.
19:07:08 6 o'clock on a bit. We got the zoom, build me right into it. Because everybody else is available on the pit at 5.
19:07:14 So. If you shift it by hour or an hour and a half, then you're all still likely available and you can add.
19:07:21 Whichever commissioner or UD staff that selected. Good morning.
19:07:27 Great thought, Aaron.
19:07:30 That works.
19:07:33 Yeah, I have no objection.
19:07:29 So what's very, You already have the Okay. Okay. For the record, the only reason we picked 4 to 6 that day because we're in the FISH, IN.
19:07:58 ARE, a Skip that.
19:08:01 Well, it's an MRC night. Okay, it doesn't work anything.
19:08:12 Okay, yeah, location should be too hard. But I wanted to, Is Friday the first and an option for folks?
19:08:22 It's. For me. I mean, if it's before 5 of us, but everybody met at the Whoever's the lucky person will get to stay late and keep going.
19:08:39 Is that, can we do it? Okay, we can do it. We can host. 6.
19:08:51 You want 2Â h between or not? No, we had a 6, but we'll try to end early.
19:08:58 So at least give ourselves 15Â min to. So Tuesday, March fifth, How do you do? Do you miss it? I think so. That might be an important one.
19:09:14 I have to check with that.
19:09:16 I don't know. I don't know if I'm sure that I can miss MRC that one.
19:09:21 I usually can, but they're, paying chat. I have a feeling we're not gonna be able to get a hundred percent participation at every meeting.
19:09:31 Yeah. And the meetings will be moving around. So having a person with PD. What word?
19:09:39 And then we could add the next one on here.
19:09:41 Alright, I could be late. I can attend part of the. They're all virtual, right?
19:09:47 Yeah, But I can pop back and forth. And they are advisory to us. So like you're not needed for a vote or right, there was something going on.
19:10:02 Is the climate action committee and to this process. To brother management. It is the conference. I'm sure they will.
19:10:23 I will say that we just presented to the by an action meeting this week on like on the commerce money.
19:10:24 We do, we will be engaging with that. And because you've got a corner of the county commissioners, they're public meetings, right?
19:10:34 Yes, so somebody from the climate action community wants to come and listen. Okay. I would say don't plan around me in the MRC because I have a family member with stage 4 pancreatic
cancer and that's priority number one right now so I might not be anywhere.
19:10:51 March fifth.
19:10:53 Okay. Alright, can we change the invite? Oh, thank you. One of the other members that aren't represented here can't take it is it more important to add this forward.
19:11:06 Yeah, there's the UAE rather than the other. I don't know.
19:11:15 This is Ben. We can, I can make it.
19:11:17 Yeah, I think we're, members. But, you know, let's dial in 6 o'clock on the fifth and then if, you know, both of them are unavail Startup, but let's fingers crossed.
19:11:36 Yeah, so Jeff touched on it. You're gonna have to notice this is a public meeting for the purposes of the Board of County Commissioners corrected in as far as putting this on
tape or recording is the county need any special electronics or anything we have the owls and we record our own me but this is a county heading half to have a presence there for those
purposes.
19:11:56 Yeah, I'll just need to have access to your Wi-Fi and I'll just use, I have a link for the growth manager to me.
19:12:03 We'll do a join special VOCC meeting and road management during committee meeting currently. So I can remember.
19:12:14 That it could be recorded on Zoom.
19:12:18 Alright, anything out. Good job, guys. Right, so Guess we really shouldn't go to Scomania.
19:12:39 They're charging stations aren't great anyway. Alright, so we are scheduled for the Oh, that's funny.
19:12:49 I'm gonna be at all the work on the sixteenth. I'm glad we pull this out.
19:12:55 It's supposed to be May. Sixteenth. 2? Teams, Thursday, 20 third is probably roadie.
19:13:11 Sorry. Oh, No one in this room knows. Okay, that would be late at Memorial Day.
19:13:27 But 20 here doesn't mean left will be yes.
19:13:31 20 third is post road, isn't it?
19:13:34 Yeah, I think, because I think that is right. Hello.
19:13:39 But sixteenth is roadie. So that's also a conflict. So the 20 third would be more than that.
19:13:45 Yeah. It's just, for me. Ms. Wacken, We do 6 o'clock on the 20 third of May.
19:14:09 Okay. Other folks online, 6 o'clock on May 20 third.
19:14:19 Yeah.
19:14:17 Okay, sure. Okay. Wow. Yes, that will, that one is good.
19:14:29 I will say, this is Ben the Kate and I theoretically have a Jefferson County Fair Paygrounds meeting, but that might be able to be moved.
19:14:39 Yeah, but if we were looking at the ninth, which is our business meeting, the more important one.
19:14:45 Right. Exactly. So it's not, I just. This is.
19:14:49 Should be fine.
19:14:47 So, okay. Oh, it's, Thursday. Alright, anything else for the good of the order?
19:14:58 Do these are? Oh, that's probably the galax in the trailer. Yes.
19:15:10 Alright. Let's call for anything to go to the order. Thank you, everyone. JERRYSTEEN, Kenny is a 4,000.
19:15:38 So I'm sure we're adjourned.
19:15:41 Yeah.
19:13:41 From David Faber to Hosts and panelists:
I have to run. Iâll try to be present at the next meeting, whatever folks schedule. Thank you!