HomeMy WebLinkAboutchat10:04:33 From Chambers to Hosts and panelists : FYI - Monte wanted a few minutes to honor Public Works Staff - he will prepare a consent agenda item for a letter thanking them by
next week's agenda
13:48:26 From Chambers to Josh Peters(Direct Message) : I sent you an email re: PC appointment
14:05:23 From Chambers to Kate Dean(Direct Message) : I see John Mauro is online, let me know if I need to bring him - or others - over during the next discussion.
14:07:44 From Kate Dean to Chambers(Direct Message) : Ok, will do.
14:30:05 From Chambers to Greg Brotherton(Direct Message) : If the Steering Committee appointed the task force members, those meetings would not be subject to OPMA I believe - but
they could always share the zoom link with the public for those meetings...
14:30:34 From Greg Brotherton to Chambers(Direct Message) : that would have negative political impacts, I think.
14:30:39 From Chambers to Greg Brotherton(Direct Message) : Right
14:32:13 From Chambers to Hosts and panelists : We will still need to advertise, but social media is great to get the word out
14:33:09 From Chambers to Hosts and panelists : We could have a publication ready for consent on March 11th, publication on the 13th and 20th, and discussion and action on March 25th.
14:35:20 From Chambers to Hosts and panelists : I put a placeholder of March 25th at 1:30 p.m. for discussion and potential action re: aquatic task force membership
14:36:16 From Chambers to Hosts and panelists : Scope of work can be held March 11th at 2:30 p.m.
14:37:32 From Chambers to Hosts and panelists : Scratch that. Conversation would need to happen before noon for publication deadline. We are packed the morning of the 11th.
14:49:54 From Chambers to Kate Dean(Direct Message) : Someone has their hand raised
09:02:27 Everybody ready? Yep. Alright, good morning. I'll call this meeting the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners to order.
09:02:37 Happy March, everyone. We will start off this morning with public comments. We invite the public here in the room and also on Zoom to provide up to 3Â min of public comment.
09:02:48 It is helpful if you tell us your name and place of residence, though it is not. You want to give an agenda update? Oh, yep, sorry. Thank you.
09:02:58 We do, so we've confirmed we are. Yeah, to confirm I don't know about.
09:03:07 She said it works next week and Willie says it works as well. So we'll move it to next week.
09:03:10 And Willie says it works as well. So we'll move it to next week. I think thank you. Yes.
09:03:15 So Dr. Barry had an emergency and is not able to join us for the public health updates this morning.
09:03:17 So we're gonna put that off until next Monday instead. So no public health update today. Or emergency management, yes.
09:03:27 Alright, I'll start in the room today. Who would like to provide public comments? Mr. Walker, come on up.
09:03:38 Right in my face. Good morning my friends. I can see you all my friends.
09:03:43 I've known you a long time. Well, I'm Scott Walker. I live in the city of Port Townsend within the city.
09:03:49 I'm speaking on, for the transportation lab. Which is an action group of local 2020 and I'm a member of.
09:03:57 We are putting on another one day conference this year in April. April, nineteenth. Again titled moving in the right direction.
09:04:06 And will be held at the Legion Hall. And the theme is again. The intersection of transportation with housing, equity, health, climate and environment.
09:04:15 Economic vitality, tax revenue, sprawl. All the things that transportation intersects with. We have 3 world class presenters this year.
09:04:24 We're looking into a fourth because the fourth one dropped out at a conflict. First one is Mike McGinn.
09:04:30 He's coming back. Former mayor of Seattle and now the executive director of America Walks in Washington DC.
09:04:38 And, Zeebartz, she's,
09:04:43 She's director of disability mobility initiative in Washington and disability rights, Washington and also a consultant with DOT.
09:04:53 And we also have Ariel Sullivan, who is the principal consultant of conscious transformation agents.
09:05:00 And serves as co-president of the Pacific Northwest Organization Development Network. We'll have 2 breakout sessions.
09:05:09 The morning one is, will ultimately ask each table of participants to craft their transportation vision for Jefferson County and Port Townsend.
09:05:18 Based on the information that they've received in the morning sessions with Mike McGinn and a Zebarts.
09:05:24 In the afternoon we haven't nailed down completely yet but the focus will be establishing steps necessary to achieve the transportation vision.
09:05:32 That they came up with in the morning. There's no cost participants but there's a cost for us to put it on which is why I'm here I'm asking you to help us along with other local
governments to help us contribute for the space rental.
09:05:46 The honorariums for the presenters which are modest, the printing, the website work and miscellaneous bits.
09:05:52 We're hoping you can provide $2,000 again for this last year you did. How do we do this?
09:05:58 I have an invoice for you now if you want it or what you'll have to let me know.
09:06:04 We'll be sending you invitations and, more information, the agenda so you can pick out what time of the day you want to be there.
09:06:11 I think you should be there all day because it should be. Worth your time and we're hoping that some of your staff will also come this year.
09:06:19 I have a one pager to give you right now. And I guess that's it for me.
09:06:27 For the particular public, do you want to say again the date and where people can find more information? No, that's the date is April nineteenth at the Legion Hall and it is
open to the public.
09:06:37 It's all day. From 9 to 4 and last year we got lots of great kudos from the people who came they just thought it was well worth their time because they didn't have to go to
the other side of the.
09:06:48 The sound to get this quality. I'll give you the one pager. Thank you, Scott.
09:06:57 Alright. Might be a little premature. I should say to our county administrator is out of town.
09:07:07 This week and Monty Reinders is acting as county administrator. So hang up that Scott will discuss.
09:07:16 Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, thank you.
09:07:26 Yeah, you got to go. And we will respond to public coming after, everyone has finished.
09:07:33 Yeah. Alright, anyone in the room wish to provide public comments? Go ahead, Becky.
09:07:43 Good morning. And the immortal words of Patty Labelle and Lady Mama Laude. The Llavoo, Cowsher, Eve, Moi, Seshawa.
09:07:58 Nest pupa. Do you want to sleep with me tonight? Today, France strikes a blow against the selfishness.
09:08:07 Of all men everywhere by enshrining the right for a woman to have an abortion into their conscience, the first country in the world to do so.
09:08:19 You might think, what does this have to do with subsidized housing? Well, everything. France has the same amount of social housing as the U.S.A, but only one-fifth the population.
09:08:33 That means that the U.S.A. would have to build 6 times the social housing. To be better than France.
09:08:50 We, in order to meet Article 25, the 1948 UN resolution charter stating housing is a human right.
09:09:00 The U.S.A. has not met its social housing obligations. Despite the fact that we started building federal housing back in 1,937
09:09:14 Lady Mama lot is saying, come on, we need more and more. Subsidized housing. It's not the same as affordable housing.
09:09:23 Come celebrate the blue, white, and red with me today in Port Townsend's coffee shops and bars.
09:09:32 It should be ladies night tonight. Women should get what they deserve. Buy one, get one free.
09:09:40 Viva La France, light the lamp of liberty and equity that has been dimmed in this country for so long.
09:09:47 Life the lamp and ring the bell of social equality once more. Forget your perfect offering. There is a crack in everything.
09:09:57 That is how the light gets in. So come, let your French flag, fly and come sleep with me tonight outside for freedom, liberty, and for And by the way, I heard about your commerce
meeting the state of housing and i don't see with the rodent problem and the blocking of the showers problem that has led to serious sanitation problems in the shelter.
09:10:30 I don't see how If you can't run a shelter, you can't build one.
09:10:35 Because you don't know what people need. They're dangerous, they're unsafe shelter is shelter housing is not housing.
09:10:46 I would rather sleep outside. Thank you. Thank you, Maggie.
09:10:52 Michelle Walter.
09:10:55 SHOULD. I was.
09:11:03 Thinking about some of the comments last week from the shellfish industry about how important the shellfish industry is to employment.
09:11:12 And about Commissioner Dean's comments that we know. The existing shellfish operations and I thought I wonder if the commissioners know that at this very moment 3 shellfish
farms are applying the to switch from hand harvesting to mechanical harvesting of clams.
09:11:36 This is a like a tulip harvester that's been adapted. For the stated purpose.
09:11:42 Of reducing the number of jobs. And I suspect, I don't know if you do know or not. Do you know where?
09:11:50 Do you know how many acres? The application federal application has a little box says have you consulted with the local government No.
09:12:03 And this led me to think about. I think what maybe the most serious problem in the current code. It's that the grandfathered farms.
09:12:14 Are out there. They're not regulated in any way and They, there is no requirement to come in and say, what are we doing?
09:12:26 Except for some very high bars. Easy bars. And yeah. I'll give you the easy one.
09:12:36 The current code allows Expansion of an existing farm. With no underlying permit and no permit. If it stays under that 25% rule, I don't think you can justify that.
09:12:51 Under the shoreline management act and SEPA. But take the cultivation, one that I've just mentioned.
09:13:00 You don't know what they're doing out there. As far as I can tell, all 3 of our neighboring counties.
09:13:07 Kids up, Callum, Anne Mason. Require some kind of filing if you're going to do something different.
09:13:14 In the case of Mason. You've got to, if you don't think you need a substantial development permit or conditional use permit, you must file a piece of paper that's called an
a statement of exemption.
09:13:29 But it also requires what are you doing and why? And so it what it means is that the Jefferson County is only one who's saying, we don't know who you are or where you are or
what you're doing and we don't want to hear from you unless you think.
09:13:48 That you need a permit. You need something that's that makes them come in so that the county itself can say well this is sounds okay or this isn't okay.
09:13:58 I'm working on this and want to submit something to you in the next couple days. It's complicated.
09:14:04 And I hope that the count the staff is doing the same. But I wanted to alert you that I think this is the fundamental problem that we're grappling with.
09:14:12 Thank you. Thank you, Michelle. Alright, anyone online we should provide public comment, please hit raise hand.
09:14:22 If you're on the phone, you'll hit star 9. We'll bring you over, Ms. Corbett.
09:14:26 You'll have to accept the promotion. The panelists, please. And then unmute.
09:14:34 Number 12 here. Go ahead and unmute Miss Corbett when you're ready. You have 3Â min.
09:14:41 I think I just did. Yeah, there we go.
09:14:43 Thank you.
09:14:46 Okay, thank you. I'm Su Corbett. I live on Churchill Lane in Port Ludlow.
09:14:53 At the commissioner meeting last Monday, mention was made of the HPA exemption for. Even though hydraulic hoses liquefying the substrate is far more disruptive than many other
things that do require an HBA.
09:15:11 Josh Peters made a comment along the lines of, well, There's nothing we can do about that.
09:15:17 Even if it's not good policy. I understand the comment, but the county can do something. The least that can be done here is to simply require a standard cup for all GUI duck
operations in Jefferson County.
09:15:34 That will allow a rigorous review of the types of issues that an HPA ordinarily would evaluate.
09:15:42 Things like ill grass protection and feeder fish protection. This is just one reason among several why there should be a full cup for all GUI duck operations, including expansions
and conversions.
09:15:55 Thank you.
09:15:57 Thank you. Miss Corbett. Mr. Tish.
09:16:05 Good morning commissioners. I wanted to make a note about the meeting you're going to have this afternoon.
09:16:14 Regarding the appointment of people to this new committee, the task force. It's, something occurred to me with respect to the, compliance with the Open Public Meetings Act.
09:16:28 And so I went back and I'm referring to the county's own OPMA guidelines for Jefferson County.
09:16:35 Boards, commissions and committees. And what concerns me about that or what came to mind is that so the commission here is going to be creating this committee basically because
at least 6 of the 8 members I think is what I read in your agenda item will be members appointed by the BOCC so it basically becomes a committee of Jefferson County.
09:17:02 And that's okay. You can have all sorts of advisory committees. But when it comes to OPMA, open public meetings, There's a little, little, little catch there, your own policy
acknowledges that, quote, Any board commissioner committee that makes recommendation that must be considered by the board of county commissioners is subject to OPMA.
09:17:24 So if this task force is going to make recommendation or a recommendation. That anything that the county does must consider before it takes action.
09:17:35 Then the meetings of that task force. Have to be subject to the OPMA. So as you're considering creating this committee.
09:17:45 And appointing people to it. Please keep that in mind. You know, compliance with OPMA is not a great big deal, not a huge burden, but it is, there is some cost.
09:17:56 Associated with it. There's staff time. There's, you know, publishing of agendas and all that kind of stuff, which I know you're familiar with.
09:18:03 So I just wanted to bring your that to your attention just a word of caution about the role of this task force and what it's going to be doing and what the commission is going
to be doing as a consequence of the recommendations from that task force.
09:18:18 Thanks.
09:18:20 Thank you, Mr. Teersch. Miss. You are now.
09:18:27 Cool. I'd like to build on the comment that was made by the lady in chambers this morning.
09:18:35 If you can't build a shelter, you can't build a pool. And later this afternoon you're going to talk about another task force, how many task force committees meetings do we need?
09:18:51 To continue and egregious waste of taxpayer funds. And community and not community. County resources.
09:19:03 It takes lots of time, energy, and effort to put all this stuff together. You've got employees that are spending time doing this when they have much better things to be doing.
09:19:16 There have been many, many, many instances of, bonds and things that have gone down for things that are really important.
09:19:27 The coolant school district, you're putting all of this on a county that doesn't have a lot of extra money, you yourself have said that.
09:19:36 And it's just time to shut this down and not spend another dime. Thank you.
09:19:41 Thank you, Miss. Here now. Anyone else online? Wish to provide public comments.
09:19:48 So please hit raise hand. Okay, She lowered her hand but Hmm. There's McDade.
09:20:01 Do you wish to provide comments? So you can accept the promotion of panelists. If not, it's alright.
09:20:20 Good morning, Miss McDade. Feel free to unmute.
09:20:28 Good morning. Sorry for the delay there. I just wanted to express, support. My name is Diane.
09:20:38 I'm the president of the Jefferson Aquatic Coalition. And we just wanted to express as an organization support for the new task force that's in the process of I've been created
and formed with strong countywide representation for consideration of new options.
09:20:55 The purpose of the task force as we understand it is to look at options for building a pool outside of the city limits of port towns and to look at alternate construction costs.
09:21:08 And to break some fresh ground in those conversations. So, we stand ready to assist and participate and look forward.
09:21:17 To provide in any advice or guidance that we can from our membership. And I did wanna ask if, there's a today at 2 o'clock whether that's an interactive session should be present
in person i just wasn't sure about that thank you
09:21:34 Thank you, Ms. McDade and we'll answer your question when we're finished with public comment.
09:21:40 Alright, anyone else?
09:21:46 Well,
09:21:50 Start our response to leave it up and for a few more minutes in case anyone else joins us. Well, I think $2,000 for the T.
09:22:03 Lab conferences and no brainer. So. Recommend processing that invoice, but I know it's not just my decision to make.
09:22:11 We actually have a like a pool of funds for sponsorship of activities like this, if not, I think we probably should designate a certain amount of money in the budget each year
knowing that we get these requests and, you know, there many community groups that do help do the work of the county that can provide a small amount of.
09:22:31 If it is, yeah, accessible, then it should be. That's non-, professional services line item.
09:22:40 This probably and others will get you out of. Yeah, I could see that would be beneficial to actually identify a lot of money specifically for something like this.
09:22:48 Sorry to interrupt. Oh, it's fine. I also prefer sleeping outside whenever I have the option.
09:22:55 I know it's not always an option for people. Or a choice for people, but I hear your comments and it sounds like.
09:23:01 The situation at the shelter is less than optimal and I don't, I don't have a a view into exactly what's going on at the shelter right now and maybe one of my colleagues does
so.
09:23:13 I'm gonna defer to their response. I was thinking about Marilyn's comment about it sounds like you were getting at the conversion.
09:23:23 Conversion piece of the whole SMP. Conversation. Talking about the change of.
09:23:32 Methods deployed. And, you know, I mean, I think that we've been pretty clear, well, I've been pretty clear that expansion makes sense to me.
09:23:42 Because it is essentially new habitat that's being disrupted. When an expansion proposal comes forward.
09:23:53 I feel like every time we get public comment on the SNP thing, we get new information. And so it takes a little bit of time to absorb that.
09:24:02 I wish that.
09:24:06 Wish it wasn't that way. It was wasn't so iterative. But I understand that we have to absorb the new information as we receive it as we just received some today.
09:24:16 And incorporate that into our deliberations and our decisions going forward. So.
09:24:24 I also. Birds Sue Corbett saying she's hoping that we move forward with the standard and UP for all I think we've talked about a standard CUP for new and expansions.
09:24:38 And continuing the administrative requirement for conversions but I think that's what we're moving forward with.
09:24:49 To Tom Tiers's comment about the task force and open meetings. I mean, it seems like those meetings.
09:24:53 Would have to be open, but that would take review of the OPMA and so that's okay.
09:25:03 Okay, and other currently other boards. That are. That have members appointed with And to Shelley's comment about.
09:25:13 I mean, I think with anything that we do, we have to think about having the capacity to manage the process.
09:25:19 So I think it's something that we have to talk about as we go forward with the task force discussion.
09:25:23 You know, do we have the capacity to have this additional? Committee basically. And who needs to sit on that committee.
09:25:32 It's gonna be an interesting discussion this afternoon. I don't have any. Pre meditated responses to that.
09:25:39 Conversation. Cause we haven't had it yet. Great. Alright, I can go.
09:25:46 Yeah, I support sporting T. As well as we did last year and I do think that we should.
09:25:52 Set it up so you know you don't have the hoods, you don't have to have the hoods put to come and ask for the money, but there is a.
09:25:59 A process in place of any organization that's doing something for the public benefit. Could apply for it.
09:26:04 So. More on that, maybe when Mark returns, which is later this week. Wednesday back, So I think, running that idea through him first would be appropriate.
09:26:20 To Maggie, you know, I, agree with everything you said, you know, about France.
09:26:26 I mean, I don't agree that. I don't have a lot of answers about what's going on with the showers yet, but we do have.
09:26:32 As I said, that commerce meeting was about, you know, building. Land use planning and affordable housing and workforce housing.
09:26:39 But this week Wednesday at 2 30 at the early cap conference room or online at teams we are gonna have a meeting talking about the the cultures and the Cosmo Brown and so I think
that would be a good conversation and that's not just fully kept talking but also only cap listening so I'll be there I mean, not just, fully kept talking, but also only cap listening.
So I'll be there.
09:27:02 I mean, I'm sorry. We can't, but can't hear you. So we don't have it back and forth right now because it's not even here. I'll see you there.
09:27:08 Big, are you worried about the capacity of that room? It's not very big and I know that there's been some outreach to get a lot of folks there.
09:27:14 Right.
09:27:17 You probably fit 30 people in there.
09:27:22 I don't know, could have, yeah, that's a good. It's a good point.
09:27:27 I just got the agenda worked out on Friday. So yeah, that's an issue. We can, you know, Julia talked about, QUF.
09:27:35 So we can maybe set up and open it if we do really, expand pass. I think it's worth.
09:27:42 Worth working that out and we wanna make sure that people that they want to be there in person. And so.
09:27:48 And what do we decide about the, special meeting of the housing fund board. I don't, we weren't, you know, holy cap kind of jumped forward and started programming it and then
I kind of came in and said we'll have the housing bud fund board facilitated or I will be facilitating that.
09:28:06 But really it'll be, making a couple 10Â min presentations about the shelter about Coswell Brown about the future shelter.
09:28:15 Like residents from Cosmo Brown and then what's kind of an open, open session after that for questions and comments.
09:28:23 But we weren't, I wasn't planning to do it as a meeting with the housing fund board, but I'll send that out today and if we do.
09:28:29 If everyone wants to go and is able to go, I guess we should. Post the special. Okay.
09:28:34 Remind me the time again?
09:28:43 So more on that. It's, you know, continuing to evolve. And to Michelle Walter, I like that idea of the statement of exception that you, that you raise.
09:28:55 I think it is worth. Thinking about as we've got, you know, we're looking in the guts of it to make sure that there is some sort of the appropriate communication.
09:29:04 I, you know. I'm still not sure where that line is drawn, but I appreciate the input and I'll look forward to your suggestions.
09:29:10 So they're always very helpful. And you know process whose response again the request comment full cup for expansions and I understand that's kind of one of the big.
09:29:23 Questions right now. Mr. Teersch, you know, we had meetings last week about this, task force.
09:29:34 We had a steering committee meeting. And one thing that came out of it is that we do want to make sure that it is open to the public.
09:29:37 We weren't intending necessarily to make it an open public meeting, but to make sure that it was open with attendees able to view it.
09:29:44 So. You know, depending on how that conversation, I mean, it would be, it's a small, small barrier to do, OPMA and I think, willing to do that.
09:29:53 I mean, it could, it is also. I think technically. It is advising the steering committee.
09:30:00 Not the Board of County Commissioners, but we are taking ultimate action at the Board County Commissioner. The But not reporting directly to the BOC.
09:30:14 Correct. It's finally on our list of other things we're looking at. I appreciate, you know, Mr. Cheers, as well, are always helpful.
09:30:28 And, yeah. All right. To Miss URL, you know, it's like planning a tree, right?
09:30:37 When's the best time to plant a tree? 50 years ago, second time, best time is today.
09:30:41 So, you know, if we don't build a pool, which has a lot of public benefit, then we're not gonna have a new pool. And that's.
09:30:50 You know, we've gotten notes from, from Mr. Grant as well, talking about an entirely privately funded pool.
09:30:58 And that seems It's gonna have to be. Privately funded or nonprofit funded as well as publicly funded to.
09:31:07 Pencil, but we are looking at You know, the strong and other building options as well as other locations and a lot of the.
09:31:14 My analysis of it is a lot of the the roots. I don't I'd almost say major objection is really the location that was being considered and I think Having another conversation
is a low cost way to keep pushing the practicality of building a new pool, which I am confident.
09:31:38 Will make Jefferson County a better place. So if we can build a pool, that is something that we should try to do and it's not easy.
09:31:45 I've just stepped into the role of kind of helping be the liaison with that group and you know, the challenges or they are.
09:31:53 Not insurmountable, but let's try to surmount them. So. Not given up yet.
09:31:58 So. Thank you, Nick. Miss McDade. For your support and I think Jefferson Aquatic Coalition has been a strong voice in this and also a voice that will continue to contribute
to looking for a successful path.
09:32:16 I think we can do it. That's it. Right. I won't add a whole lot.
09:32:24 In terms of the T-lab conference. Really hoping I don't have COVID this year and can attend.
09:32:31 I was very sorry to miss it last year. It was like, yeah, there wasn't an empty seat in the house, I don't think it was great.
09:32:37 I'm really glad I wasn't there though. I do, I see, Josh Peters is listening, and be great if this could help.
09:32:49 Inform our count plan process. I want to consider that potentially, you know, we do have outreach funds from commerce for that.
09:32:58 Consider that potentially, you know, we do have outreach funds from commerce for that. So, talk to Josh and see if maybe that would be a opportunity for account plan staff to
be getting some good feedback.
09:33:06 Yeah, so let's that's partly why I was saying hold off on this because couple of avenues that.
09:33:12 We could. Go here. Let's see, in terms of SMP, I think you, Michelle Walter, I agree that it is.
09:33:23 We don't have our arms around the totality of. Of shellfish farming here. Therefore, it is hard to understand the cumulative impacts.
09:33:35 So appreciate you bringing this statement of exemption idea and we'll continue that conversation as well.
09:33:44 As for, Mister Trish's comments about the task force, I did assume that, that group would need to comply with OPMA.
09:33:52 I was thinking that they were advisory to the BOCC. So, you know, obviously there's a lot of things about the scope of that task force that are yet to be.
09:34:01 Yeah. Oh and to answer Diane's question it will be in person. I have to go home again. It will be in person. I have to go home again.
09:34:06 I do this quarter. I have to go home again. I do this quarter for I'll be virtual in the afternoon so anyone could attend and.
09:34:11 I think there will be public comment. Especially if we take action on any sort of structure. So the option for that.
09:34:21 Thanks. I think we're especially because we really need to get going on the. Task Force, that means figuring out how do we see the members. Do we choose them?
09:34:36 Is it an open process like most of our advisory boards? Do we do recruitment and open or? Hmm.
09:34:44 So yes, public comments. And just kind of building a little bit on what Greg was saying, about the community benefit of an aquatic center.
09:34:57 It's just continually been surprised at the framing of a community pool as such a extravagant or ridiculous thing to have.
09:35:09 I just think, community pool as such a extravagant or ridiculous thing to have. I just think, thousands of communities.
09:35:13 Some of them look like ours that have found a way to build aquatic centers and and to great benefit and there's a reason they are highly valued and sought after amenities and
communities.
09:35:26 Because they provide a lot of value and it It just takes community. Saying, yeah, we want to find a way to make this work.
09:35:32 And that's exactly what we are doing. We had a plan was not well received, we're willing to pivot and say, hey, what else do we need to consider here?
09:35:39 So. I think that process is valuable and we are still in it and we are seeking more input in it.
09:35:48 So just hope the public could hang in with that process and you know, it's it's messy and it takes some time.
09:35:55 Doing this work, but hoping to come up with a solution that is palatable to more of our community members.
09:36:02 So we were listening.
09:36:06 I think that's all I have for now. Monty, I don't suppose you want to weigh in on any of these thorny issues.
09:36:15 You know, thing or 2 about building public infrastructure there. Okay. One of which is the sewer.
09:36:27 Essentially, if I'm the quality facility were to be located anywhere. And Quite a septic.
09:36:37 Yeah. But, yes, lot of work. Going on and.
09:36:47 And as you know, our department also. Spends quite a bit of time working on non-motorized, facilities in response to the T-lab.
09:36:59 Comments that were made is great thing. You know, but. We've got work going on on the Olympic discovery trail.
09:37:07 Of course, within Port Hadlock, plans for future community connection. You can use, like that.
09:37:16 We gotta get through that sewer project first. But,
09:37:20 What's it?
09:37:24 Thank you. Right. I will announce again that we do not have our public health update today. Dr.
09:37:32 Barry was not able to join us. She will be joining us. Next week instead. We let KPTC now.
09:37:39 Yeah, I got back to Jim. Thanks so much. Moments before the. Okay, I think they've got a show they can slot in. Great. Thank you.
09:37:50 So sorry to anyone who is listening in for that report. That we're delaying it for a week.
09:37:55 Alright, should we take a look at our consent agenda? Need.
09:38:02 Any. Thoughts, questions, concerns? Well, I'll just premeditate. A response to what questions I'm I would imagine you guys are asking about.
09:38:12 And number 5, which is the frustration. I'm coming. Community wildfire protection plan.
09:38:17 So It was deemed that more work was necessary. To complete the plan based on. Kind of a Punky input from some of our key stakeholders.
09:38:32 So. That's all moving forward. Great at this point, but we've had to extend the capacity of our consultants to facilitate that additional work, which.
09:38:42 We're grateful that they were available. There was question if that was even going to be an option and they've been really wonderful to work with and.
09:38:49 This is the best path forward with. Completing the plan. Yeah. Well, and I mean the I know that the timing of the stakeholder concern was was not great, but I will say.
09:39:06 I hadn't realized how. For the DNR maps that we're being. And I mean, kind of useless and Apparently Wasack's been working on the legislation that has now passed.
09:39:21 To have DNR fix those naps. But like, I mean, that was happening under my nose and I was unaware of it at WASAC.
09:39:27 So. Yeah, like it is a very real problem that is being addressed. It would have been great if it had come up sooner, but we'd still be waiting.
09:39:34 For you know this week to see if the legislation passed or not. I think it will be a better product.
09:39:46 Oh, totally with new mapping. Absolutely. For sure. And grateful for our Senator, Kevin Van, for taking the lead on making sure that that legislation did move through and.
09:39:57 You know, almost got killed by politics, didn't he? He voted against the rent control bill and, So House Democrats voted down almost every one of his bills or wouldn't want
to take a vote at almost every one of his bills as a result.
09:40:14 Luckily they let wild fire through. There's not a lot of much nexus with wild fire.
09:40:21 Yeah. I'm grateful that we're going to come out of this process. Because of the sad and budget capacity with with the plan that will really be a solid plan and maps that are
actually risk assessment maps.
09:40:33 Yeah. Okay. I was a little surprised by number one that the lease. It seemed a little spending. Really high.
09:40:46 I mean, I understand climate. Controlled space is limited here. But you know it's considerably over the amount we had budgeted and sounds like we'll be able to.
09:40:58 Pull out of this lease if we find something more in line with our budget, but, Yeah, it's a lot of money.
09:41:06 25% over the budget. Yeah. Hmm.
09:41:13 Just say how big is it? I can't remember. I wanna say is that I wanna say I remember, 2,500 feet, but I.
09:41:24 I that's just pulling from my recollection. Yeah. Yeah, and there's just not a lot of options.
09:41:35 Hmm. Great to see the Recompete, Strategy Grant on there.
09:41:45 So we can move forward that now. It's good. And that'll go to DCD for their portion of the work.
09:41:51 It'll go to DCD. They're probably gonna have to go through an RFP to get a contractor on that.
09:41:56 They can't go with one of their. Existing contracts. Hey. Anything else?
09:42:06 Now I'm happy to move the move that we approve the consent agenda for March. Fourth 2024. A second.
09:42:16 Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Consent agenda is approved and adopted.
09:42:24 Hmm. All right. So, we have a bid opening for our legal newspaper record at 1015 until then.
09:42:31 Repeat again we do not have our public health update. Dr. Barry was not able to join us today so we're putting that off until next week.
09:42:38 Sorry to anyone who that inconveniences. So let's do some commissioner briefing. Maybe they want to put that on TPTC and stuff.
09:42:48 Oh, it's sitting stuff. We think so. Okay. Let's see.
09:42:56 In the last week. You guys of course on Monday. And then,
09:43:05 Tuesday, what did I do Tuesday? I think I did a bunch of those training. I was a little behind on some of my online trainings.
09:43:13 These day on Friday I did a couple. On Wednesday we, had our weekly, Team Jefferson meeting getting ready for tomorrow's in person meeting of the recompete coalition i think
we're ready then went down and joined a great panel at the Elks Club.
09:43:32 Thanks to Monty and Sam for a lot of input on on the progress of the sewer. They were very interested in that and was a really good chamber luncheon, you know, probably 50 people
and, really engaging, presentations from the city and from.
09:43:47 Housing Solutions Network and I'm Jamie, Machiavsky at the Habitat and Sound Bank and, One other.
09:43:57 I think solutions, oh, there's reward from the builder's association. I'm not Liz River, Lizanne Coker, 2 Liz's
09:44:03 Then housing fun board. I had to do, virtually. Oh yeah, we also, I was a late for housing fun board because we had our healthier together meeting that I didn't get to doodle
pull with everyone else for but so I missed part of housing board to go to that and we're kind of.
09:44:19 Framing the conversation and identifying the questions that we're really considering later at 2 o'clock today and going through the report, do you guys have a chance to look
through the report?
09:44:29 I think Mark forwarded on. Okay, great. And I've got I've got notes from our meeting too I can share with you.
09:44:35 I met with Peggy Webster who's, you know, Working it over the cap now and off the housing fund board on Thursday And.
09:44:47 Did agenda planning for the recompete meeting this week. And then went to J prep on Friday.
09:44:55 And it was great. A lot about Nixon. Just on online nixel and then I was so inspired I signed back up for the wash dot alerts only to have my entire inbox fill up.
09:45:11 Yeah, those updates. Wow, they send a lot. So I've just I've unsubscribed this morning.
09:45:16 And then met with all the caps, talk about the agenda for Tuesday's meeting that I've discussed and then met with some.
09:45:24 Community members later in the day. On Saturday I joined. Tammy and Barb Jones and a couple of new staffers that I hadn't met before down in Brennan for the Dosei Wallops River
Collaborative, Tim, Abbey from NSD came and, great presentation.
09:45:41 It was really, really. It's, you know, the same community that didn't want this work done basically at the headwaters, right?
09:45:51 But I think they were really impressed by. By Tim's presentation I had a couple of people that are pretty skeptical of conservation efforts.
09:46:01 Really learn a lot and then ask engaging questions and I think, you know. Started to see the value of the work and the, you know.
09:46:11 The scientific approach combined with their empirical knowledge, you know, over generations leading to a constructive pathway.
09:46:20 So it felt really good. I think, yeah, they did a good job. No power at the community center.
09:46:24 Of course, power was out when we got there. But it came on right as the meeting started. So it was fine.
09:46:30 So do you say Brandon or? And, that was my week.
09:46:38 My wake last week, I was with you guys here on Monday. On Tuesday. I did not attend the sewer outreach meeting at the library, but I did spend much of the day talking with concerned
constituents.
09:46:56 About the dollar store and about. Lists of questions they had about the sewer project. So I did let the staff know that there were a couple of folks who were coming to the sewer
meeting with.
09:47:11 Little pages long lists of questions. And if they could intercept those people and you know, address their questions.
09:47:17 In a more focused way it might be more effective and I did hear from Sam and Bob after the meeting.
09:47:23 That they were able to. Make good connections, especially with one gentleman who was. Very ahead.
09:47:31 3 or 4 page list of questions. So. Anyway, I think that that was a successful.
09:47:37 I heard it was a successful sewer meeting. And we had a bunch of our partners in the project available in the room to answer questions.
09:47:46 So. Like some of the construction team and yeah, so there was resources in the room to answer all kinds of questions from folks.
09:47:54 Which I think the community appreciated. Thank you, Public Works for that. On Wednesday.
09:48:06 There was a really good meeting. At the WSU extension.
09:48:14 Facility about the drainage district. Part of our our process that we initiated with our decision last year to kind of.
09:48:26 Extend the drainage just to consideration process. Was to do some community outreach in the meeting we had on Wednesday was the first meeting of that process and the room was.
09:48:37 Full and one of the questions that came out of that meeting was how do the folks in the drainage district who aren't in the room tonight find out about this process?
09:48:48 So. I worked a little bit in the last week thinking about how to get the word out, maybe sending a postcard to all the residents of or landowners of that.
09:48:57 Drainage district boundaries. So. Much more work to be done in that front, but. It is.
09:49:04 Interesting that this process is happening concurrent, interesting and not a coincidence that this process is happening concurrent to the short short farm planning process.
09:49:15 That the port is hosting right now. As well as. The conservation districts, Chimicum watershed.
09:49:25 Planning process. Assessment that they're doing so All of these processes are the conversations I feel like are getting more and more woven together.
09:49:33 And I think it's gonna be. Beneficial that we've kind of stage the 3 conversations in a way that they will be mutually supportive of each other.
09:49:42 So. Anyway, that was much of Wednesday. And then Thursday I. Had a couple of calls with constituents in the morning and then I drove out to.
09:49:56 Clown County to tour the sure thing, timber sale. With commissioner of public lands, Hillary France and a whole Brandy Johnson and a whole slew County County Commissioner Klein
County Commissioner Andy Johnson.
09:50:13 And a whole slew of DNR staff from the region and from Olympia. And, you know, I think that.
09:50:20 Are inclination when we were kind of Granted, all so many of the acres under the 2,000 acre and CS proviso from the 2022 legislative session.
09:50:33 Was what other counties have, you know, desires. And when we said in our response to DNR to their letter, our formal response that we were willing to give.
09:50:44 One of our parcels, equivalent of one of our purchase acre, acres to to work on the short thing.
09:50:51 Timber sale issue they took our They took our suggestion and they're moving forward with that and that's the plan now.
09:50:59 So we will still get all the day by day acres and the. Mount Walker acres but they acres that were up around penny wise timber sale will.
09:51:09 Not be part of our NCS acreage and will be transferred to Clown County. It's about 150 acres.
09:51:17 What was the is it not? You know, not pass this piece that was, yeah, taken out.
09:51:22 Yeah, and there was a, you know, we were. There was a lot of gratitude.
09:51:27 For us. We're making that shift. So, I mean, how would you describe, The short thing timber sale?
09:51:37 Yeah, steep, really steep and right next to the highway. Right next to 101 and steep, I mean, I was like, how could you even harvest that?
09:51:46 It was right above the highway. Anyway, so it totally makes sense and it also is adjacent to.
09:51:53 The National Park. Between the highway and the Olympic National Park. So it's a very logical public benefit piece for the long term.
09:52:03 So did you see the letter that the? Superintendent of Public Instruction said to the Commissioner about how the Board of Needs natural resources functions and that's all.
09:52:19 Yeah. That's interesting. You know, have somebody from the school's perspective calling out a need. That's interesting.
09:52:30 You know, have somebody from the school's perspective calling out a considered. It's not the first input, superintendent Reichdahl has given.
09:52:37 DNR about kind of spending schools for the future and I was really glad to see that letter. Yeah.
09:52:48 Let's see, and then on Friday, I attended the Salish administrative services or, Favorite Health Administrative Services Organization.
09:52:59 Advisory board meeting, which I know isn't necessarily my regular ongoing role, but it was, I just had never been to one and now that, yeah, now that I'm on the executive committee,
I felt like I got a Understand the advisory board and it was great and Lori Fleming was added to the advisory board as well as a number of other members.
09:53:16 So there are, I think there are now no vacancies in Jefferson County. On the advisory board.
09:53:21 And. Other than managing.
09:53:28 Family and appointments and All the considerations that come along with that, I that's that's what was my week last week.
09:53:37 Thanks. I will try and be brief although I do have a fair amount to report from Olympia of course.
09:53:46 I realized I forgot last week to report on the PTPO meeting and with Monty here might be interesting.
09:53:55 This is probably all old names to you, Monty, but Steve Rourke from washed up, presented, they do an annual kind of.
09:54:01 Work plan to peer TPO. So just a few highlights. The Elbow River Bridge is supposed to open in June.
09:54:09 I'm guessing this is the Olympic region has 58 backlog preservation projects just in this district.
09:54:17 Bridges and pavement. So, they're, you know, feeling the, the hurt there.
09:54:25 I'm sorry, the backlog because of staff capacity or funding. I don't know.
09:54:32 I don't know, but that's like the kind of list that they have that they're trying to work.
09:54:37 Things continue to deteriorate. So sure things are getting added to that all the time. The roundabouts at Paradise Bay and, the, 19104 both both team ahead.
09:54:51 For construction this summer. Somebody asked about the potential for a roundabout at the east end of the bridge and Steve said there are no plans for it.
09:55:05 There's no funding for it and it is on their wish list. But has never been. Approved as a potential project.
09:55:11 So. Just quick update from out of Steve's mouth.
09:55:18 Let's see.
09:55:26 Hi. Pick the high points here because it was a.
09:55:33 A busy week. Maybe I'll just dive into. Olympia. So.
09:55:40 You know, again, at this point, some of this could be old news, but I'll report on the things that we're moving really quickly last week.
09:55:47 That seemed to have a good chance of passing this local community. Federal funding bill which creates a pot of money for local governments to access to use as match for federal
projects.
09:56:02 Was a waiting floor action so very likely to move. It's only like 10 million dollars, but I think it's a good, move in the right direction for the state to say, Hey, there's
probably jurisdictions that don't have match and are passing up.
09:56:14 Important federal funding opportunities. The point 0 9 tax effort to, explicitly state that those funds can be used for nonprofit owned workforce housing is moving.
09:56:32 The affordable housing local option for, tax is continuing to move. So that's the ability to tax.
09:56:41 Short term rentals with an excise tax. In order to support workforce housing it's up to 10% of the cost of the short term rental.
09:56:52 So that could be a significant revenue source. The extension of the count plan deadline to the end of December 30 first, 2,025 instead of June.
09:57:06 Thirtyth fifteenth, whatever. Likely to move. The net 0 swap. With urban growth areas.
09:57:17 Is. Was moving quickly. Yep. The, we talked about the.
09:57:24 Change of the wildland urban interface code the Wooi Maps, the DNR maps. that was moving along.
09:57:37 There the bill that allows for expansion of retail services and LAMARDS that are more than 10 miles away.
09:57:45 From UGAs had passed both the House in the Senate already. There was no talk of the governor vetoing it even though there had been talk about that previously.
09:57:55 And. The waste material management, strategies for diverting organic material and decreasing food waste.
09:58:07 Was moving through so sort of few highlights Obviously some important. Budget. You know any more about that food waste list?
09:58:20 So yeah, Stolios, Bill. It is.
09:58:26 2301
09:58:30 Went through quite a bit of. Amendment through the process, but, worth looking into.
09:58:40 Wass supported it. So guessing that there's nothing. Too strenuous in it that Ties us into anything difficult, but I haven't heard anything about it from Al.
09:58:52 You guys haven't either.
09:58:56 Just few important things in the budgets. There's a proviso which, allows the, the court, the state courts to finish, processing the Blake cases.
09:59:08 It's not required. Local governments like ours can continue to do it, but made me wanna get an update on where we are with processing those cases.
09:59:16 We are one of the only counties. Are we all done? I mean, I think Ruth Garden, that was her.
09:59:22 That was her last task. Okay. But like, I mean, there's like finding some of those people.
09:59:27 I don't know if that was getting through the ones that she could easily find. Yeah, I'm just 100 for cases.
09:59:40 One of the budgets I can't remember if it's house or Senate called for adding.
09:59:44 10 corrections officers training academy classes to get through the backlog and that's within the next 2 years because it's now 18 months to 24 months out to get a new correction
officer trained and you know there's so many yeah that's one of the big backlogs is the there's yeah the training opportunities there's funding for public defense internships.
10:00:10 It's funny. I laugh at like incentives for lawyers, but, so many rural counties are having a hard time getting anyone to work in public defense.
10:00:18 So helping to fund internships to bring people on. Nothing, nothing, not a thing. And we continue to to drop in the percentage.
10:00:28 That the state is contributing towards the drop in the bucket. Less than 50 for a million dollars.
10:00:36 29,000 for a million dollar budget. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. I think we're it's now 2% the states.
10:00:44 Portion of what they pay. But for a. The, so, providing a waiver.
10:00:52 For folks to be able to get Medicaid upon release from jail for 90 days that they did get funded.
10:00:58 And that's expected to get both funding.
10:01:05 Big increase in the, housing trust fund. Including specifically developmentally disabled beds. The recording feedback fell making up for those funds.
10:01:20 The house is asked for 69 million dollars. Senator has asked for 39 million. And the it specifically talks about the value of maintaining existing service levels.
10:01:35 Yeah, they get it. They get it. And so those funds would be available on a competitive basis.
10:01:40 And so those funds would be available on a competitive basis. They'd have to apply for them, and so those funds would be available on a competitive basis.
10:01:44 They'd have to apply for them demonstrate the loss of revenue. Sounds like significant, increase in funding for, broadband and for fish barrier removal, although the fish barrier
removal is being funded by the natural climate solutions and it has a poison pill if the climate commitment act is repealed to that funding would.
10:02:06 Go away. There is, in one of the budgets, 4 million dollars to pay WASAC to audit county buildings.
10:02:17 To see if they, what. The cost would be to get those buildings to comply with the clean building standards.
10:02:24 Which you know will That comes into effect. Is at 2030 I think we have to comply and You know, I mean, just imagine this building alone.
10:02:35 So WASAC would be hiring the auditors to come and do the energy surveys on our buildings.
10:02:42 25 million dollars in the Senate budget for the encumbered lands for counties previously not. Funded and this was interesting to hear about the $25 in the Senate budget for
the Quinalt and Nature Conservancy?
10:02:58 Yeah, they're kind of in competition. With one another. Where did that come from? Like who I thought the Nature Conservancy was doing less work on the West End and suddenly
they're named in a for 25 million dollars.
10:03:10 I've been hearing about that circulating through the session and then. It came up as competing with encumbered lands.
10:03:18 Yeah, yeah, It's I was surprised because a big chunk of that is probably in Jefferson.
10:03:23 And then there's some funding for green jobs and infrastructure and decarbonization, workforce development around green jobs, infrastructure and decarbonization.
10:03:33 So, interesting. How we doing on time? We've got a few minutes.
10:03:39 Septage capacity funded in the house budget. The, Finally, getting some action on the school environmental health.
10:03:46 Did you hear what she just said? Yeah, that was 3 years of work. Yeah, yeah. I know for very small provider.
10:04:00 Yeah, yeah. That was 3 years away. Yeah, yeah. I know for very small provider. Yeah, I know.
10:04:01 I'm so That's for the study. So yeah, it's in the house budget.
10:04:05 So it's such a small amount and there's not expected to be much opposition to it. Lots of money for opioid crisis.
10:04:11 Response, another 10 million dollars for client planning for climate and growth management act, specifically for junior texting districts.
10:04:22 Interesting. Increase in funding for state and federal elections costs. In the transportation budget, there's technical assistance funds for small counties applying for federal
dollars and an extension of the federal fund exchange till 2027.
10:04:40 That's good. Increase funding for, bike pedestrian and say for up to school.
10:04:47 And also a. Creation of an environmental liaison for local projects within wash dot.
10:04:55 So, you know, all of these still being hashed out in the sausage making process, but these are the ones that Wassat was.
10:05:02 Fairly confident would be. Funded.
10:05:08 We don't have anything till 1015, right? I think Mandy wants to walk something on.
10:05:14 Oh, okay. So, a couple others joining. That's no way. Yeah.
10:05:21 So I was gonna do this after the newspaper. Did opening but. Our road crew members are always early.
10:05:33 But yeah, we're gonna walk on a issue to recognize an employee for some great. Great service.
10:05:41 But we should probably wait for the other guys to get here. It's hoping they won't take long. I don't think that.
10:05:54 So if we could, I'd love to go over one more important bit of business.
10:05:59 Legislative steering committee passed a new operation, way of doing business to address the concern of the large urban counties and so I don't want to share that with you.
10:06:14 It includes some weighted voting. Yeah, yeah. So again, that you know, we've had one urban county pull out of WASAC, 2 others threatening to, which represents, you know, 40%
of the budget of the organization.
10:06:27 And, so in an effort to try to keep the urban counties in. Wisex doing a very hard and careful look at the how legislative priorities are set and how, funding of the organization
happens with or without, those 3 or 3 largest counties and the dues for whatsack are proportionate based on population and yet for the most part each county has one vote those 3 large
urban counties have 2 votes
10:06:57 but you know when you're talking about a total pool of 45 votes. 2 votes doesn't do a whole lot of good.
10:07:06 So. Legislative steering committee adopted a new way of you know, deciding on our legislative priorities.
10:07:18 There will be 3 categories of to kind of pots that potential that proposals will go into.
10:07:28 So beginning of the year, actually very early now that's going to be due in May. So something we'll have to consider if we have a legislative priority we want Wasack to consider.
10:07:37 We will draft it and it will be put in a urban bucket, a rural bucket or an all county use bucket.
10:07:44 And then there will be urban and rural caucuses for considering those priorities. The urban caucus will decide on.
10:07:55 Will vote on their priorities using weighted voting system so the 3 largest counties will have, you know.
10:08:04 A much greater say. Waited based on population. Actually based on dues. Yeah.
10:08:13 So it's it correlates to size but not entirely because there's a kind of a floor that gives at least every county at least one vote.
10:08:22 So it's a little bit artificial. And So they will get to choose. 2 priorities.
10:08:31 Everybody can participate in those though, in recognition that even rural counties have urban growth areas. And can choose to weigh in.
10:08:38 The rural counties will get to decide on 2 priorities. Those will be just on a one county one vote or in the case the larger counties 2 votes.
10:08:51 There's a understanding that. Obstructing votes, you know, loading up the caucus with a number of people who only want to kill proposals is not acceptable, although there's
no way to.
10:09:05 Prohibit that currently. Yep. But you know, just really trying to operate in good faith is you know, representing county as best interests.
10:09:15 And are the big urban counties receptive to this plan? Yeah. And are the big urban counties receptive to this plan?
10:09:40 Yeah, Sahomish and Pierce, that unless they got mmm, Spokane, some of the Clark, some of the larger counties.
10:09:45 That have they have something like 7 votes apiece but they tend to not vote in alignment with Right, the more typically democratic left leaning.
10:09:57 Then those the 3 urban countries would still need like left leaning. Yeah. Then those the 3 urban counties would still need like 15.
10:10:02 Urban county or rural counties to vote in order to have the majority so It's, you know, I think we'll learn a lot this first time around and see if it works.
10:10:19 So, we'll see if they'll come back in. We had to run everything with them in and with them out because they're currently out.
10:10:24 We had to run everything with them in and with them out because they're currently out. Right. Yeah, because they didn't date last year.
10:10:27 And then there's another bucket of all counties. So things that don't necessarily fall into urban or rural.
10:10:33 Those proposals would be considered. And 2 priorities could come out of that if there is you know an obvious need for more urban or more rural issues to be adopted and, you
know, say there's nothing that necessarily applies to all counties, then could do 3 and 3, but the whole body needs to agree to that.
10:10:54 Process otherwise it's 2 2 and 2. So in, May at the LSC retreat, you know, if we had priorities, we would come to WASAC with that prepared and they would, that's where they
would be considered.
10:11:07 So it's much earlier in the process too that we need to start thinking about. Priorities for the next biennium.
10:11:16 So, it passed almost, I mean, so it was much more unanimous than I would have much more supported, not quite unanimous.
10:11:26 But, important bit of action and, receptive to the new plan I mean that something had to happen right?
10:11:41 Yes, yeah and you know they really have been funding this organization that has not been advocated on behalf of their interests at all and in fact advocating against their interests.
10:11:47 We also took on a policy of WASAC having a neutral position. Just about everything. There's some things that are would be egregious enough that would not meet with the policy
documents of the organization.
10:12:03 Unfunded mandates, for example, but for the most part, we have a neutral position. Yes.
10:12:11 And allow us to continue to work on those bills you know be be at the table as soon as you post something nobody wants to get the table so be able to have a presence and be
working on bills recognizing the diversity of opinions that other counties might have.
10:12:27 So. Really glad to be through that. It has been a huge push to get. Agreements from the group and nice to have it be you know, nearly unanimous agreement.
10:12:42 And, you know, when you think about, when waited voting was first discussed at our November conference.
10:12:47 It was war. Yeah. So, really admire the fact that the Was able to thread this needle and come up with.
10:12:58 You know, there's actually 3 different voting systems for the 3 buckets. The all countless bucket has to reach 85% agreement.
10:13:11 Yeah, and same with our taking positions during session for bill, you know, gets amended and comes before us to decide whether to support or not.
10:13:18 It has to reach the 85%. Threshold. With the overarching theme of do no harm.
10:13:25 So, you know, if you get 85%, that probably means that. It's not that's like hurtful to either the urban counties or the.
10:13:34 Where else? Is was that going into austerity budgeting already? I'm going to, losing what a border of their revenue.
10:13:45 Timing is terrible because they're trying to recruit a new executive director. So, you know, there have been there's been one primary position vacant.
10:13:56 All year, they've had a lot of savings. And having Paul Philby. Legislative director role and not backfill his position. Right.
10:14:06 So they've obtained some savings that way. They're going to just bring in a interim executive director.
10:14:15 Until we know about the budget for. The next. So. Super grateful for your leadership on this stuff.
10:14:24 I know you've been working really hard on it and Please share at least my I mean, I'm sure.
10:14:31 To the staff team down there because I know. It's a huge amount of work and finding a path forward was.
10:14:36 Dubious not long ago, right? Yeah. So this is a big win for counties. Yeah, thank you.
10:14:43 Recognizing that.
10:14:44 Alright, that was my big Olympia report. Oh, so end of session, end of this week.
10:14:51 I'm so glad to be done. Great to Olympia. And, you know, I think.
10:14:59 Lot of uncertainty even coming out of this session with the 6 initiatives. I've not heard if they decided I know they had hearings for 3 of the initiatives.
10:15:10 One of them had a good shot of getting amended and their car not going on the ballot, but still likely up to 5.
10:15:16 Initiatives going to the voters in November. Was it? Was it the climate line by any chance?
10:15:23 Is that true? No, I think it was, I think it was Captain. No, so removing the Dapper, right?
10:15:33 Yeah, I just remember the one that was likely to. I don't know if I made a note of it. I don't know if I made a note of it. I don't know if I made a note of it.
10:15:39 I don't know if I made a note of it. Cumbered lands, funding, I was tied to the passage of that climate initiative. Yeah. There are triggers all over. Yeah, the landscape right
now.
10:15:47 Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of uncertainty.
10:15:50 Gonna be a wild ride this year. This election year.
10:15:57 Okay, it's, 15.
10:16:01 Oh, 14. I'll move the. So we have a bit opening for our legal newspaper record.
10:16:10 Shall I hand this off to you, Caroline? Yeah, sure. Okay. And you'll describe the background why we do this and.
10:16:16 Yeah, so the call for biz was approved by the commissioners. You guys on January eighth, per RCW, 36, 72, point, 0, 7, 5.
10:16:30 The county must designate an official county newspaper by their first regular meeting in April. Bitters had must have 5 weeks to prepare and submit their bids to the clerk of
the board.
10:16:33 We received 2 bids. The Peninsula Daily News and the Jefferson County Port Townsend Leader.
10:16:42 Who received leader one back in January, so they were very early. I'll open that one first.
10:17:02 Who's doing these for public works? It's their only one now. Okay, so I'll like I have done in previous years I'll list a few of the items on their bid and then I'll submit
a bit tabulation form for your review next week.
10:17:17 So the poor towns and leader, they're bit amount is $10 per column inch. They're legal size for, font is 8.5.
10:17:28 Call him with 1.5 8. They have that their deliveries are 3,766 and you stand 1,997.
10:17:40 How much videos, 1,997. It looks like altogether. I should have said altogether, 5,763 copies.
10:17:49 And there's electronic subscriptions.
10:17:57 They have 10,966.
10:18:01 Okay, I just that's that's probably what I'll just they have a couple sample bids for ads that I had them include so I review that.
10:18:11 I'll open up the PINCA Daily News.
10:18:14 There is a very big envelope. Okay. So Peninsula Daily News, they have $7 and 90 cents per column inch.
10:18:26 On size 7.2, column with 1.0 7 inches. They're total.
10:18:35 Their total print. Looks like 1,392. Is that Jefferson County only? Yeah, and that's another thing you'll be looking at next week is if it's broken down between Jefferson County
and Calum County.
10:18:51 So, and they're electronic subscriptions is 3,910. And I will, like I said, prepare a bid tabulation for you per review next week.
10:19:02 Thank you. Yeah. We are. Very, glad to have members of the road crew here and this is just the winter that keeps on giving isn't that I couldn't believe it was snowing in Brennan
yesterday.
10:19:20 So. Great to have you here and thank you all for your service. Yeah, so.
10:19:28 This is really about recognizing one of our employees for some outstanding service. So Ricky, it's our rain.
10:19:37 Why don't you come on? Here's next to me. But, before we get into this, we might as well introduce everyone since, these, people work out in Habock and you guys look here, you
know, crumbs and hass very often, but we have.
10:19:51 Ricky Ray is a road maintenance technician for our road crew. We have Ryan Lammers, and, he's our, for, Hadlock, foreman.
10:20:04 Dale Brownfield is our overall road maintenance superintendent who took over when Matt Stewart went to the to the And, my half away is the area run supervisor, based out of,
So this is.
10:20:22 These 3 are. Kind of our supervision team. We of course have a foreman in.
10:20:27 We'll see in Rick Bangkok. And, as well, Bill Robinson.
10:20:33 For you guys, we have our 3 county commissioners, Commissioner Kate Dean, who represents the 4 towns in area.
10:20:40 Wish your Heidi Eisenhower is the middle part of our county. Great Brotherton district 3.
10:20:49 South County in the West. Anyway, that's some introductions. There.
10:21:01 We've got a great team with our road crew. Then some great work done.
10:21:07 And, Also, we have new, not part public works, but, several services hired and, managers.
10:21:18 So, really starting to work with that department. A lot more closely to to bring some improvements to our overall operation.
10:21:29 So that's that's been great to see. What we're here. Do today is recognize Ricky Ray.
10:21:38 Okay. Service to the citizens of Jefferson County over the last 12 plus years, particularly though wanted to thank you and give you, opportunity to thank him and express express
your appreciation for his help at the Jefferson County Transfer Station.
10:22:05 You'll remember that in December we were severely short-staffed going into January as well and our solid waste manager is here to talk about potential Saturday enclosures of
the transfer station.
10:22:20 Ricky Raise. Our road crew volunteered to step up and work Saturdays, well, and Friday's actually and transfer station.
10:22:32 Which is what, kept that facility open. On Saturdays during January, Ricky was working 50 plus hour weeks because he was still working for the road crew as well.
10:22:45 And of course we had a big stone store in the middle of all that. So you were getting plenty of hours and, little worn out there, but Ricky is, always really appreciated when
he's at the transfer station even though that's not his So be the roads, roadm, it's employee, but.
10:23:07 He does great work there. Of course, there's other folks at Solid W that, are essential as well.
10:23:16 No doubt about that Justin the school and the other employees there but Ricky really stepped up and was the difference to keep that silly open.
10:23:28 On Saturdays in January. And in addition to the, for over 12 years you know, just a.
10:23:40 Outstanding attitude, always first answer the phone in the middle of the night. Go clear trees, cloud snow all night.
10:23:48 Spread salt and sand. Unblemished safety record. Which is you know, another really excellent thing and, just a, you know, pleasure to work with.
10:24:03 You like Ricky's, model employee for, Jefferson County. So, I wanted to recognize him for that.
10:24:11 We have more recently been able to add staff to our solid waste program. Do in large part to the, updated teams through contract with, recruit people and also how adjustments
work to the recruit folks there.
10:24:29 So we're We're looking better shape now and even talking about expanding our hours loop, but I think I'll be, talking about, expanding our hours loop, but I think I'll give
you next week.
10:24:41 But Ricky got us through January by working some. Hero hours and did it always with the smile on his face so I just wanted to acknowledge that we have a place like that and,
And, you know, make the
10:25:00 You aware of that. So I prepared a letter that you could sign recognizing Ricky for a service, but I didn't get it on the agenda for this week so I can put it on the consent
agenda for next week.
10:25:13 Wanted to do this in person today because not all of these guys can be here next week on So, I will plan on putting that on your consent agenda next week if you'd like for,
so that you could sign that letter of recognition for Ricky Ray.
10:25:32 I'll stop. We don't do it today 2 months. Yeah, I mean, it's up to you.
10:25:37 I think, you'd have to. You open up the thing for public comment or whatever. So I do have, the letter here and it's dated for.
10:25:49 It mentions, all the things I just talked about. Mr. Ray, so if you'd like to look at that, Caroline, you have never digital copy of it.
10:26:03 Okay. That's okay. We probably just wanna read it. What do you guys think?
10:26:10 Do you want me to? I'm happy to read it. Right. You don't have any enemies that are in the meeting, do you?
10:26:20 I think it'll be fine. I think it will be fine. We're not going to have too many people speaking against it, I don't think.
10:26:23 You might have a flood of people commending.
10:26:28 So this is on the board of commissioner's letterhead and it's to Ricky Ray.
10:26:38 Mr. Ricky Ray wrote maintenance technician for from the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners and Monty Rinders, Public Works Director and County Engineer on March, 2,024.
10:26:47 For recognition for outstanding county service. And I'm probably going to tear up because I'm doing that really easily these days, but I'm super grateful.
10:26:55 I know. I'm watching my reading of the letter, but I just know that sometimes, extending your capacity by.
10:27:05 Finding the internal fire to go and bub and be on the call of duty is A powerful thing and super beneficial for our community.
10:27:14 And I'm the solid waste commissioner now and I was so worried about those sad days because I know that my mom goes to the You know, transfer station on Saturdays.
10:27:23 I mean, my community, so anyway, super grateful. So I will read the letter now. The Jefferson County Board of Commissioners would like to recognize the outstanding county service
provided by Mr. Ricky Ray.
10:27:33 Roads maintenance technician for. In January, 2,024 when the solid waste division was facing potential Saturday closures of the transfer station due to acute staffing shortages.
10:27:44 Mr. Grey, and we agreed, Mister Ray agreed to work 50Â h weeks to supplement the solid waste staff to avert these closures.
10:27:53 Essential services like solid waste disposable disposal rely on a few dedicated employees. And it is thanks to employees like Mr. Ray that essential county services could continue
to be delivered.
10:28:06 Since coming to the work for Jeff since coming to work for Jefferson County in 2,011, Mr. Ray has worked tirelessly to keep county roads safe and in good repair.
10:28:16 He's always been one of the first to answer his phone in the middle of the night. And he has worked through many late night shifts and weekends clearing snow and trees from
the roads.
10:28:25 He's an exceptional operator on the brush cutting equipment. Regularly having the highest production rates and leaving a neat roadside appearance.
10:28:34 Mr. Ray has consistently demonstrated the ability to remain calm and professional in stressful situations. A job is never done, just good enough for him.
10:28:43 He has an impeccable safety record over his 12 plus years of county service. Mr. Ray has consistently demonstrated the qualities that exemplify a model county employee and his
positive can do attitude as an example for us all.
10:28:58 The Jefferson County Board of Commissioners does hereby recognize and thank Mr. Ricky Ray. For excellent service for the citizens of Jefferson County.
10:29:07 From us, Jefferson County Board of Commissioners. Thanks, Ricky. Get a motion to. I will move to approve signing this letter as read into the record today.
10:29:20 I'm happy to second. Alright. So, before we take any action, we have to take public comments and although None of you are actually here as members of the public if you wanted
to say anything would be welcome to no pressure to also open it up to the public in the zoom audience if anyone would like to make a public comment.
10:29:39 Only on the letter that we read. Please hit raise hand at the bottom of your screen.
10:29:45 If any of you drive on the county road, you're qualified. To make comment.
10:29:54 Yeah, certainly. Good. Like service.
10:30:03 So Hey, yeah. We appreciate your team. Do you have a vacation plan or? To get some time off.
10:30:15 Yeah, I do that. What did you do mostly at the transfer station? Construction. Okay.
10:30:35 Into the. Don't be area. Okay. I was just calculating the other day.
10:30:45 I drive I drive Iron Dale Road probably 4 to 6 times a day. And I was like, how many times have I driven this road from, because I live in Hadlock, downtown Hadlock.
10:30:54 And And I was, I was, it's like tens of thousands of my lifetime. I'm always grateful like when I see You guys out clear in the trees or the sides of the road and I get a lot
of comments from that part of my district and I get a lot of positive comments about Roads Crew and the work you guys do.
10:31:14 And, yeah, Adam Maristone too. I feel like we've gotten a number of comments from Marathon of the good work that happens out there.
10:31:20 So. Ludlow too. Yeah, and it's rare that we get positive proactive positive comments.
10:31:27 So it's It's reflects on the work all of you do that people are reaching out to give us kudos when Usually we're hearing when things aren't working and.
10:31:37 Yeah.
10:31:41 Alright, call the question all in favor of signing the letter as read, say aye. Hi. And we can sign this right now and pass it down.
10:31:52 You guys can take it to just stop by. ADL and at the end and let them make a copy for the record and you can take it away with you today.
10:31:57 I'll pick it up.
10:32:02 Okay. Are you related to Willie? I would ask that too. We did work.
10:32:13 Very good. Yeah. Well, thanks to all of you.
10:32:17 Yeah, it's, I can't imagine how many late nights you've been working.
10:32:22 It's good. Yeah. And going above and beyond the call of duty is, It's hard to do because you're working a full-time job and I appreciate the sacrifice that you made voluntarily
to keep our services, our level of service maintained, which is kind of the goal often is to, you know, as we get a smaller and smaller chunk of the pie, keep that level of service
up and really
10:32:48 appreciate your sacrifice for that.
10:32:50 People. Okay, nobody else wants to say anything. Alright, I'm not Ricky for 40 plus years personally and Just by chance that you know you happen to come work at the same place
idea and working together and he's he's always been.
10:33:12 You know, top notch and dependable and quality work and he makes things. For Mike and Ryan and I.
10:33:21 We can always rely on Ricky. Lot of times if Ricky is out of town, we're kinda worried that are we gonna get somebody to do what he does.
10:33:32 So I, we really appreciate him and yeah, all of this is just a little thing that we can do for what he does for us.
10:33:41 So he's a big part of that. And And, very important. Thanks for all your work and thanks for sharing them too, you know across departments.
10:33:54 It's not an easy thing to do and I'm sure there's some places that the road crew wouldn't have allowed it to happen.
10:34:06 I mean, it's like, yeah, it's, yeah, yeah. It's, yeah, it's.
10:34:10 Yeah. It's, yeah, it's, yeah, it's. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's.
10:34:15 Yes. Thank you so much.
10:34:22 Nancy, I'm going to give this to Carolyn and then she'll get it to you or Thank you all. Thanks for coming.
10:34:35 Thanks. How are you guys? Hey, Ben. Hmm.
10:35:02 Great guys. Yeah, good to have a good team. Thanks for bringing that forward. Yeah, I don't know.
10:35:10 I mean, I think recognizing employees once in a while is really a good thing. I don't know if other.
10:35:16 Department director is gonna do it but I am. Yeah, it's important. Well, it's so good for us to hear too about kind of the, you know, it's easy for us to not know.
10:35:27 The kind of day to day of what's going on in departments and that's a great way to.
10:35:31 Let us hear like, yeah, people working 50Â HA week. What do we feel like doing?
10:35:41 I wanna take a break and then we could come back and do some, calendaring. Hey, what should we wanna go over the day or?
10:35:50 What else do we want to attend to this morning? What else we want to do? And I have a couple of things I want to walk on, some letters of support and such.
10:36:03 What's only 1030, so. Yeah, she can look, and then come back. Sounds good.
10:36:09 And if anyone else has me thanks to walk on with Zoom calendar and few letters of sport and seems like it might be good to do the KPTC.
10:36:18 I don't have any, I don't have a recollection of where we're at with Samantha said she would join me this week.
10:36:29 I know. Oh, I would love to hear, an update on the sewer meeting too.
10:36:34 Were you there? That was not I was working on the sewer ordinance that night. It seemed like we had a lot of county staff and contractors so I chose to continue.
10:36:45 And not a very large room either. So I did other things that night. I got I got feedback from Samantha and Bob on the meeting.
10:36:54 Sound like it went great. So yeah, that's what I heard too. I'm good.
10:37:00 I was, I had for some reason I was thinking you were going to be there. I was going to be in, for some reason I was thinking you were going to be there.
10:37:03 I was going to be in the medical appointment got scheduled over top of it. Any idea of attendance?
10:37:11 30, something like that maybe. I mean, Samantha really wanted to. Get people prepared for construction and allow, you know, property owners who might be impacted by construction
to interface with.
10:37:27 Herself and even the contract with 2 members of the contractors, team there. Unusual but nice. I mean, Samantha was project manager for a lot of the work that occurred downtown.
10:37:42 What was that dozen 15 years? I don't know. So she had a lot of experience working with, you know, property owners and businesses that are impacted.
10:37:52 So, but I think the, you know, the meeting turned into a briefing about more than just that.
10:37:57 I mean, just kind of where the sewer project is overall and what they're thinking about as far as schedule and connections and things like that.
10:38:05 But, And. And hopefully our impacts to businesses won't be. Too terribly bad.
10:38:12 I mean, we've it's set up so that it won't and see, constructions, you know, great contractor to work with.
10:38:18 I know they'll be. Let me know, probably most of those business owners anyway, but, Like on Chimican Road though, there's access from the backsides of businesses often.
10:38:30 And it's been laid out so that we're on the side of the street with the least.
10:38:34 Amount of driveways and things. There'll be some impacts along this corner road, but all those property owners have been talked to.
10:38:42 And met with, you know, repeatedly and stuff. And then a lot of the sideways you'll be able to get in from.
10:38:50 One direction or the other during construction. But I really appreciate that Samantha's. Thinking about, you know, things like impacts during construction and stuff like that.
10:39:01 So. Wendy Davis just said that she went as well and that there was a great meeting and She felt like there was good access to the county staff and and seat and the contractor.
10:39:11 With new, with a lot of citizens who are going to be impacted. So. She felt like it was a good.
10:39:19 It met its goal of providing citizens with the resources to get the questions they have answered. And I understand the citizen you were talking about with that had a lot of
questions they met with that person and were able to answer.
10:39:35 Many or at all of that person's questions and stuff. So, They got the information they needed.
10:39:42 We'll continue to have, you know, meetings, especially as we get closer to rolling out the sewer ordinance.
10:39:51 Finally, like I said, spent. My free time between everything else reviewing what they had prepared and feel like we've got a pretty
10:40:03 Pretty clean. Understandable ordinance to to roll out so excellent. When might we start seeing that?
10:40:21 Charge of that schedule. I think the next step is we want, the prosecuting attorney's office to look at it again.
10:40:31 They want several weeks time to do that. And so after that, I think we could start briefing you guys on.
10:40:37 On that. Is the beauty looked at it yet in that early draft? Now that we talked about not their commissioners, but you know their staff has been involved in the discussions.
10:40:52 Particularly about like the low income discount program and stuff because they have a program in PUD and Samantha is obviously pretty familiar with their staff over there and
their policies since she worked there at one time.
10:41:06 So. Yes, there's been.
10:41:11 Involvement with them. They haven't, you know, read. The current version of the ordinance, but.
10:41:18 But, yeah, we're getting close. So, you know, a couple of months maybe.
10:41:25 You ready? Or even sooner, to start briefing you on it.
10:41:31 Okay. Okay. Come a long way. Well, you know, it's a it's a huge project.
10:41:39 And there's, we're trying to keep up. Spantha does and her team do an amazing amount of work for how small that team is.
10:41:47 You know, you always wish you had more time, but, you know, we're up against some.
10:41:53 Blooming deadlines with the grant funds and everything which we've you know we've met those deadlines but there's really no slack in the schedule to.
10:42:05 To take a more leisurely pace with things. So a lot of things are happening concurrently.
10:42:12 You know, like you might say, it'd be great to have a sewer ordinance for your building.
10:42:20 It just wasn't possible staffing. And I know when Kyle and County did their Carl's work.
10:42:24 Or they were still finalizing their ordinance at the end of construction, you know, so it's just the way things are.
10:42:35 I got an email last week from those. Senator Cantwell's office saying like. EPA needed to get in touch with.
10:42:45 Whoever had been funded for this project through our appropriation. I'm like. Really? Like the hundreds of pages of paperwork that has Monty's name and contact information all
over it is not good enough so Did somebody get in touch with you? I don't, I don't know.
10:43:04 I mean, Samantha's been interfacing with the EPA. Folks and it's been kinda quiet on that front for a while.
10:43:13 We've been more recently working a lot with the Department of Ecology on the funds we got from them trying to get those funds obligated and under contract.
10:43:26 And the EPA funds were next, but we, you know, Samantha got the,
10:43:33 The match waiver approved which took 6 months, but. That mean that's.
10:43:41 That was 1.3 million dollars worth of match that we I got. Waved because of she you know look through the their program for a match waiver based on community economics and stuff.
10:43:59 And followed through in that process. So that was huge and and the staff at EPA when when we've been in contact with them.
10:44:06 I've been great, but I think they've got. A lot more grants and projects going on and they have people that work on it.
10:44:14 So, But, I can ask Sam. I gave him your name because Sam wasn't hired when a lot of that When we, you know, secured that funding and so. I didn't hear from anyone.
10:44:39 I, the weirdest. It'd be, they know, Samantha is our project manager and they're very aware of that.
10:44:41 But when I get back had a communication with them recently. So, This I could understand the senators office wanting to like, you know, check in progress.
10:44:49 So the project like it was their appropriation. But, It said specifically that the EPA needed a contact.
10:45:00 We have contacts in their regional office down in, you know, Vancouver, I think. But I, we're not, maybe this was someone from DC or something.
10:45:13 All right, well, let's, shall we recess? 10Â min, 1055.
11:00:20 Just talking about talking to. Branson. Good cuisine at McDonald's.
11:00:25 What? Okay. All right, we're coming back into session.
11:00:37 So. Let's see. I was hoping to talk about a couple of letters of support. One of which has been emailed.
11:00:48 I'm not sure if you got it to Greg. Sorry, let me find it again, supporting the.
11:00:56 Forest Service. Legacy roads and trails program. It's an organization called Washington Wild. Supporting a hundred dollar.
11:01:08 Allocation, within the interior and environment appropriations bill. Looks to me like you're asking for individual elected officials to sign on.
11:01:17 I don't see any other boards, so maybe we don't need to. Consider action.
11:01:24 Washington Wild. Tom, you, it's not an organization I'm familiar with.
11:01:36 Didn't we miss the deadline or anything? No. Just emailed again. Extended that line 3 14 I say, yeah.
11:01:47 So, looks like it's just individual so we can decide individually if we choose if we want to sign on I don't see any boards.
11:01:50 Per se. Yeah, easy to support.
11:01:57 Okay. Oh. I did not open up the. Peter's on partnership letter.
11:02:07 Let me find that. That is one that we could sign on as a board. Hmm.
11:02:16 Yes, too many emails from them.
11:02:22 Sorry, it'll take me a minute to find out. Hmm.
11:02:28 So this is a letter that. Limited some partnership takes to DC if the day on the hill.
11:02:42 I will share my screen. Hmm.
11:02:49 Hello. Nothing is easy.
11:03:04 Content of the letters.
11:03:14 So.
11:03:18 The ask that's included and it's actually 4 different letters that go to.
11:03:26 Different entities within Congress. I thought they already got the initial money for the Duckabish project. Well, you know, I mean, there's no There is no federal budget right
now.
11:03:39 So there's no 24 is operating under continuing resolution. Negotiating 25 budget.
11:03:50 But yeah, I was surprised to hear that the Army Corps had kind of accepted responsibility for helping with the deck of Bush.
11:04:00 It wasn't and then it wasn't in their budget. So, yeah, I think that's a Well, it's political, right?
11:04:10 Let a call. So they do have some. Authority. But still doesn't mean that they're.
11:04:17 That their budgets getting funded in Congress. Hmm.
11:04:26 I'm sorry, it's 3 appropriations subcommittees. Good House in the Senate, so maybe it's all 6.
11:04:38 Typically this, the partnership isn't pretty successful. Strong delegation goes to DC each year and you know continue to build a case for.
11:04:50 Funding and you know obviously the feds have just had cash to be throwing it projects like this is a lot of infrastructure projects that you know can be funded.
11:05:00 Also there's a big tribal presence that delivers this message, which is always a powerful message too.
11:05:09 So 3 different letters. I think it's 6. I think 3, it goes to 3 appropriations subcommittees in the house and 3 in the Senate, but they all contain the same mask.
11:05:21 So it's a letter with a number of. There's 6 it produces. And we have no input into the letter except signing on in support or not.
11:05:38 Yeah, and. The. Northwest Straits is funded.
11:05:47 There's, Farm Bill is a gonna be a big push. I'm ensuring that.
11:05:50 Especially conservation in. Projects in our CS, are in the farm bill.
11:05:58 Seems like. Illogical, impressed to support. Yep, I've got no problem with it.
11:06:05 Alright, anyone wanna make a motion? I'll move that we sign on to. To support the.
11:06:15 3 to 6 letters that present as presented here. Happy to second. Alright, so to open it up for public comments.
11:06:24 Anyone in the public wish to comment on the letters being shared here. So. Please hit raise hands.
11:06:32 See, I'm not able to see that. I might need to stop sharing my screen. To see, or maybe Caroline, you can tell me.
11:06:39 Okay. Hearing that, I'll call the question. All those in favor, please say aye.
11:06:45 Aye. Alright. Motion is approved and I will.
11:06:50 Let the partnership know we sign on this board. Great. And are you be saying I'm listed?
11:06:55 Are you saying? It is electronic. Yes. Hmm.
11:07:00 And then you said. At least 6 letters. 3 letters to both Senate and House.
11:07:13 Okay. That was all I had.
11:07:22 Kptc, do we, we asked, we haven't done calendaring.
11:07:27 I don't know if we wanna hear from our interim director about his past. Contrib to me. Contrived.
11:07:37 I mean. Do you know what we're talking about, the, you know, like usually if Mark is here, he reports on his whole week, but.
11:07:43 Like we're glad to hear updates from public works, but I don't know you need to tell us everything you did last week.
11:07:47 Sure. Chairs prerogative. If there's anything you want to share with us, I hope you know that it's welcome.
11:07:57 We already talked to her a little bit. So, I think I shared and the look back and I'm not sure but that the quimper east and west parcels both we're closed last week.
11:08:13 Yeah. Okay, should we do some calendaring? Let's ahead. This week.
11:08:24 I can go first. Let's see. Today I'll be. Attending the North Hood Canal Chamber of Commerce meeting after we're done.
11:08:34 Virtually and then tomorrow I'll be going in person to put into college for our first. We compete coalition in public meeting.
11:08:43 I'm having a scone off with, commissioner French for bringing treats. I'm having a scone off with, Commissioner French. We're bringing treats.
11:08:51 And seem to be the, You know, are Stacey begging this. But I thought, see, I, I, I, I forwarded them by, you know, positioned them by saying it's a Goat key for scones.
11:09:07 So I tried to lower expectations and he started talking, you know, talking to some smack, so.
11:09:13 Butter milk? It is just like Butter Mountain. Exactly. I make pancakes with it too, it's great.
11:09:20 And then, See coming back from that and we'll be going to with you all. I'll be in person at the growth management steering committee meeting tomorrow at 6 o'clock.
11:09:30 That's at the PD building and auto street. Yeah, is that where there is? That's 3, where they have their commissioner meetings.
11:09:39 Great. I will be there. Are we all, I have a hard conflict with MRC. For that.
11:09:49 Okay. I mean, I would say this is our first, management steering committee meeting. Yeah, I think it's important.
11:09:55 I know it's important that you guys will both be there so I just didn't know. We could divide and conquer, but.
11:10:00 I mean, it's your call. I'm not gonna tell you.
11:10:05 On Wednesday Jefferson County meeting and then we have a special LTAC meeting. Jefferson County, I'm sorry, Jefferson County Recompete Meeting.
11:10:17 If I forget to say the word, I'm sorry, Jefferson County recompete meeting if I forget to say the word just oh it's another recompete.
11:10:21 And then I don't know what that is.
11:10:24 Oh, the data and projects recompete meeting that later that evening and then afternoon and then I'll be facilitating the shelter meeting.
11:10:33 Got a little bit of work to do tomorrow morning on that 2 figuring out doesn't need to be a special meeting of the.
11:10:39 Of the housing fund word I'm hoping not to since it's Kind of oly cap and I made you know I don't know.
11:10:47 It feels a little weird. I'm hoping it can just be a community conversation co-sponsored by the Housing Fund Board is my goal.
11:10:52 But I will also look at another location in case there is more people than that room can accommodate.
11:10:59 So that's Wednesday. I'd like to attend and I'd like to. Pretend like I won't have anything to say.
11:11:11 Promise. Try my best. Well, we, we can, if you would, I mean, I feel like you've expressed it twice now that we can if you would I mean I feel like you've expressed it twice
now that we should probably notice is a special meeting and it doesn't Just, well, I also just fear that the housing fund board, you know, might be members who
11:11:30 don't understand, you know, the the quorum issues. So might be engaging. I'll work with, so it might be engaging. I'll work with Carolyn.
11:11:41 And there's, you know, like OPMA. So it might be engaging. I'll work with Carolyn.
11:11:45 And there's, you know, like OPMA for I appreciate you bringing that up. Talk if I want to.
11:11:50 Yeah, if that's when this Wednesday, 2 30 to 4 15 is the schedule.
11:11:57 Meeting. There is the. Recompete data and projects meet up. But, I don't have another one at that time.
11:12:11 Wednesday, yes, I wish probably Wednesday the sixth from 2 30 to 4 15. Let's just notice it until 4 30.
11:12:22 And then on Thursday, I should probably go to one of these. WASAC broadband meetings, stuff is coming up again.
11:12:34 And then Thursday afternoon we have the Hey, I think tank. No, I think now it's a courtesy of Alex Henley came up with that idea and made us a shared drive.
11:12:47 So it's great. Still, we're looking at some of the. Doom and gloom of AI this time.
11:12:53 Then I will be headed out for the PLVC meeting at the at the beach club this week.
11:13:01 And then, only cap, we have a special meeting mostly to. Add people to bank accounts and move people around and bank accounts and everything and approve this and some emergency
stuff.
11:13:11 Friday morning I'll be participating with the Peninsula Housing Authority's strategic strategic planning workshop.
11:13:19 And then meeting with some folks that are working on a development out round. The site of the new dollar store and port hatlock.
11:13:29 And then. Folks who are developing the new dollar store. People. No, and that's the housing development behind that.
11:13:36 The old, Vern project that's, building. You know, they put a loss there and, a call, they used to be called emerald greens.
11:13:48 And it's not being hooked up to the sewer less. And it's not being hooked up to this, before that they'd already put in the large onsite septic, I think.
11:13:58 Is that the way you're talking about? And that's my week.
11:14:04 Well, I mean. My week's company wreck, but. So there something showed up on my calendar, port towns and city councils signing of the community wildfire protection plan.
11:14:20 Carolyn, do we know what that is? Something showed up on my calendar for tonight. Port towns and city council approved signing CWPP.
11:14:29 City council and considering it maybe I want somebody to speak to it. So it seems pretty true for them to sign it.
11:14:37 Yeah, I don't know. I know nothing about it and I can't be there. I don't know.
11:14:44 It's just showed up on my calendar. Okay. Okay. Thank you.
11:14:55 Can't be there. Sorry.
11:14:59 That's where they have where it came from. I don't see any, how do you find out who put it there?
11:15:05 Maybe in the, should come in via email. Might be or myself and I didn't do it.
11:15:10 We need to not recall. I mean, anyone can send an invitation. I see us. Yeah, could come in as if you search.
11:15:19 Well, I don't it doesn't matter who put it there. I'm just saying I can't be there.
11:15:23 Cause we need to help collect signatures. Maybe. Oh. I would guess Wendy Davis more than one of the housekeeper would be collecting.
11:15:35 Yeah, I wouldn't think you wanted to do this because it's not one. Okay, I will forward it to her and sell her.
11:15:39 Anyone can make an invitation. I get out. Okay.
11:15:50 I.
11:15:56 Okay, I'm managing my calendar while I'm telling you I'm not, but I'm not able to do this week.
11:16:04 And then let's see, tomorrow. I'm really tentative to go to the Growth Management Steering Committee because the MRC we're without a staff right now.
11:16:15 And Gordon's the chair. And I . I remember he couldn't be there. So It's kind of I don't know, I'll reach out, I guess, to Gordon today.
11:16:28 If you can't share it as an ex officio member, right? No, but I've, you know, I've been at all of them, so.
11:16:33 I just, I do think, I think we're hoping tomorrow to decide on the growth projection and make really good progress on the gross allocations.
11:16:44 I know. I'm sorry. I have a lot of conflicts this week. So I will try and be at the growth management, Then on Wednesday, I will not be at the Jefferson County incident management
team meeting.
11:16:59 Which I thought I was gonna be or maybe that was the one I wasn't gonna attend. And.
11:17:06 I have 3 overlapping complex Wednesday evening.
11:17:12 There's so much going on Wednesday. The only big discovery trail presenting at the county library.
11:17:18 There's a joint, Jefferson MRC meeting at the Red Cedar Hall, and then there's the short farm, farm steering committee meeting, which is the thing that I would prioritize out
of the 3.
11:17:33 So if anyone wants to go to an Olympic discovery trial meeting at the library. Or a joint, on Jefferson, MRC meeting at the Red Cedar Hall.
11:17:41 That would be great, but. I mean like the coastal MRC. No, this is actually joint Jefferson and Clan Marine Resources committees.
11:17:51 They decided they wanted to meet together to talk about overlapping geography and you know shared priorities and vital energy.
11:17:59 Probably. College night, I have to mom that night. And so you're the ODT commissioner now, right, too.
11:18:08 So I'm not gonna feel bad about missing that. Library presentation. And I think that's just a presentation.
11:18:14 Yeah, I didn't have that one. I had the Thursday night on my calendar. Great.
11:18:20 Okay, well. That's cool. So I will plan on attending the growth management steering committee meeting and missing the.
11:18:25 Rc meeting for Jefferson County on Tuesday and I will plan on attending the short farm farm steering committee meeting on Wednesday.
11:18:43 I have a missing middle housing site review and planning meeting with Brent and Hadlock in the afternoon.
11:18:50 And I have a chimicum drainage district focus group meeting. Later in the evening.
11:18:56 On Friday. This is why I was asking about KPTC because I have. 3 other complex on Friday at the noon hour.
11:19:07 Okay, I'm KPTC this week. Great. And then I have public land steering committee.
11:19:13 Oh, NICO, which I can miss. So. Just Tuesday and Wednesday evenings are kind of train wrecks for me and I'll be somewhere if I can.
11:19:23 Hmm. Alright. I'll jump in.
11:19:29 So the Wessex virtual assembly at noon today on my calendar and he's still doing they're doing it they're doing a COVID act after action.
11:19:41 They sent us an email to all of us. I must go to my. You know, spam or whatever.
11:19:51 It, it was something on a statewide COVID after action. Hmm. I'll try and listen in.
11:19:56 Today tomorrow morning public service announcement because I always forget this the styrofoam recycling is happening in.
11:20:06 So I need to do that. Hi, ling up in the wind. It's a especially bad combination when the styrofoam.
11:20:14 Yeah. Then I have a Washington Maritime Washington advisory board meeting and Monty and I are meeting to discuss number of topics catch up on.
11:20:26 Tomorrow afternoon, and then the growth management steering committee. Tomorrow evening. Wednesday I have a meeting with the climate action committee to follow up on our presentation
from last week and see how it wanna proceed with further conversation.
11:20:39 So if you have any thoughts on that complete bordering recycled paper. I know it's been controversial in our office.
11:20:49 Paper paperless. Contracts paper paperless. Contacts. This was actually a follow up to the 2 goals we talked about last week, not our internal goals, which I keep asking Greg.
11:20:58 Sorry, Mark to put that on our agenda. Our internal goals, but we've been getting there yet, maybe waiting for.
11:21:03 Or new central services director to get a little more time under her belt. Plan to attend the, shelter meeting with Olicap Wednesday.
11:21:18 Also have a child care capacity or the new childcare center meeting. So it might be late, sorry, asking for the housing fun board meeting could be public or.
11:21:28 Noticed it might be a little bit late just we wanna check in with the childcare center. That I have a college nights that that night, Thursday.
11:21:39 Meeting canceled, that's nice. I have the morning free now. Have the, governors roundtable on, Right, Perian issues.
11:21:51 Thursday afternoon. We'll do agenda review and then have the public, the Peninsula Trails Coalition meeting Thursday evening.
11:21:59 Which, what do I contact to get on that mailing list who's handling that these days? Mary, is the Jefferson County person?
11:22:10 Really?
11:22:15 Okay. And Friday I have to. Be at an MRSC retreat all day at CTAC.
11:22:27 So won't be around at all on Friday. And nothing. This coming weekend.
11:22:36 Monterey short timer with us. You're just acting. Yeah, just marks back tomorrow.
11:22:46 I know he's got, he gave me his annual list of vacations. He's got planned this year and I think the intent is for me to fill in for him.
11:22:55 On most of those or all of them or whatever. Just a long weekend. He said it to the risk pool.
11:23:06 Conference too, isn't he? Well, Just this morning I've heard that he might have, HR director, Sarah, take his place, but she's getting her scheduled.
11:23:16 Oh, that's in Nashville. I'll go. Because isn't that, that's coming right up.
11:23:25 Yeah, so, we're making last minute changes, so we're standing by for that one.
11:23:31 Okay. So you don't need anything from us in the next day. Mostly just be with us here today.
11:23:40 Okay. Alright. Shall we look at KPTC? Yeah, I mean.
11:23:49 I'll bring it up here.
11:23:53 Number.
11:24:03 Alrighty, so I am. Thanks, Samantha's already agreed to join me. Okay.
11:24:11 This week, I mean, eighth.
11:24:15 Pressure update. And then we have right now on the fifteenth of March we have Heidi scheduled.
11:24:25 And we can change any of these. We have then to reassign that, Heidi.
11:24:33 Okay. And. That conflicts with the Olympic coast sanctuary meeting, which is virtual.
11:24:43 And only until I should be able to make it work.
11:24:50 I should be able to make KPTC work. Hmm. And then we have, Kate on the 20Â s.
11:24:59 Yep, that is. Who do I have lined up for that? I have somebody lined up for that.
11:25:09 Yeah, no, I like to get those locked in. I'm afraid of showing up and having to.
11:25:14 Top for half an hour, all by myself. You're good at that, Greg, but not me.
11:25:19 You would, I'm sure you're great. Yeah, I think I have. Sergeant Stasky joining me for a like day in the life of, it could be interesting.
11:25:32 Cool. And then I'm on the 20 ninth. Just a reminder, I'll be gone the week after that.
11:25:39 Vacation and then we have on the fifth Heidi. Fifth of April, the twelfth of April we have Kate.
11:25:49 I don't know why but we have Heidi again on the nineteenth. But we can could reassess that too as we get close.
11:25:54 Hmm, that's fine. Those all look like they work. That's probably why they're Okay, and I'll just.
11:26:03 Brandon on April twelfth. Sorry if you. Okay, gotcha. Not very well, Brandon.
11:26:09 But I can tell you who I have. On the ball there. Yeah, that looks right. Okay.
11:26:26 Oh, and. The 20Â s of this month. I have.
11:26:32 Wendy Bart and Simon Little talking about Chad Care Center.
11:26:40 The Y.M.C.A. by the way has agreed to be the fiscal sponsor for the quilting skate park.
11:26:45 Awesome. That's great news. They are so can do. I just really appreciate their willingness.
11:26:54 Yeah, totally. There I had a conversation with Wendy last week that was, really helpful there for questions, you know, and it's not a lot of time, but.
11:27:02 Yeah, they're in and we got our first actual, mock up, design from, Brian line came in.
11:27:10 I just thought this morning. Hmm.
11:27:18 So do we wanna go? Any farther? I think we need to really, we're still.
11:27:25 Yeah, Heidi, are you worried about having to end? I mean, that's something that.
11:27:30 I'm happy to take off your I'm, for those 3 that are on my calendar. Okay.
11:27:36 As far as I know. Do not, we could do a few more out, Gregg.
11:27:42 I wouldn't get a few more on the calendar. All right, yeah, since they're already booked and I'm just gonna take the, Officer Schugowski, you can come next week.
11:27:51 Steal your, your guests. Alright, so the 20 sixth of April, I guess I can take that one.
11:28:01 Sit that kind of off and then it would go, what's the next?
11:28:08 Okay. April fifth.
11:28:19 5 6. May third.
11:28:25 I mean, there is also the possible, election, you know. Doing your election tasks upstairs.
11:28:34 Certification is there. Do we know? Is I don't know that there is an April special meeting.
11:28:38 We know. Special election. Oh yeah, sorry. Gwens, yup, yup.
11:28:49 So, but it did work for me to get back from KPTZ and time to do the election certification task last week or the week before.
11:28:57 So. That one. Well, I mean, naturally it would be because Heidi is the nineteenth.
11:29:05 I'm the 20 sixth and it would be Kate but. We can always switch it to.
11:29:09 Alright, so Kate on the third and then I guess the tenth. Would naturally be hiding again. I'm just going in.
11:29:19 Hey. Yeah, you can just put on that. And then 5, these are just penciled in.
11:29:28 The seventeenth would be me again.
11:29:30 I don't think we're gonna have a 3 day birthday party for my daughter. I think I can do that.
11:29:38 20 fourth I guess.
11:29:41 Yeah. Hey Kate. Oh, And then.
11:29:52 5 30, I guess. Oh, so it is the one before. Memorial Day, you're right.
11:30:02 Twenty-fourth is Kate, did you say? Seventeenth is Kate. Twenty-fourth of Haiti.
11:30:07 I'm sorry. No, no, seventeenth is great. Twenty-fourth is K.
11:30:11 The thirtieth is Heidi, right? Okay, Alright, so that takes us to the end of May.
11:30:20 Actually save this.
11:30:29 Does anyone have? Big chunks of vacation. Scheduled I know how you probably don't sorry to be I have a I'm gone from Saturday, March thirtieth.
11:30:47 Coming back on. Monday, March, April eighth. So I'll be gone for the first week of April.
11:30:55 Okay. But you'll be here on the 8. Okay. And you're not gonna join virtually.
11:31:05 I mean, I'll be fully ensconced in place so if there's a little bit of work I mean I'll be fully ensconced in place so if there's a little bit of work I can join for the morning
if it Okay, be back on the eighth per session though.
11:31:16 Yes, Greg out on the first.
11:31:19 I'm just foolish that day anyway so you don't there's no good work that happens.
11:31:25 Is it wise to have a
11:31:34 I may have to miss a meeting. The third week goes. July.
11:31:45 One was where it posted.
11:31:49 Well, I'll be here also.
11:31:56 Looking back on.
11:32:05 Right. Anything else you want to? Try to get to this morning. No.
11:32:18 Let me show you this for lunch then. Sounds good. And I'll be virtual for the afternoon.
11:32:24 We are recess until 1 30 when we have a work plan discussion with. Community developments and then talking about the healthier together task force this afternoon.
13:33:19 Okay, I'll get the owl sound. Great, can you talk? Oh, beautiful.
13:33:28 Alright.
13:33:34 Alright, welcome back from lunch everyone. We will jump right into our. Work plan with community development.
13:33:45 Welcome, Josh Peters.
13:33:48 Thank you, Mr. Josh Peters, community development director. And I have. The work plan document 3 pages and link that I handed out to you I also emailed it to to all 3 commissioners
so that Commissioner Brother Tim could have.
13:34:05 A coffee as well and I have it up on my screen so if I can figure out how to share it, I will do that right.
13:34:36 Hmm.
13:34:42 Okay. There it is. So instead of doing the slide show. Which, and all honesty, I just didn't have time for.
13:34:55 I decided to gussie up a kind of working document that I just had going just to try to keep track of all the projects that were happening.
13:35:03 And I just added some information to it that was more general in nature and also made it.
13:35:10 Thanks for public consumption, I guess. So the first thing I wanted to talk about was The programs, these are just ongoing things.
13:35:18 This is not in reference to the 21 projects that I listed, but just things that happen all the time, kind of like the red and butter of the department.
13:35:27 We've got the permit center that we call it. Out front so with our customer service function and so we've got all these different kinds of ways that we interact with the public.
13:35:35 And we have talked about instituting. A more sophisticated way of tracking all that. Usually it's just sort of a organized chaos.
13:35:43 If you will, but We've been talking a little bit about how to invest a little bit more time in order to get the payoff at the end of actually being able to.
13:35:52 To assess sort of the level of interaction. Again, it's easy to count emails and a little bit harder though to track the phone calls and the responses and certainly we got a
lot of drop in and so.
13:36:05 You know, it's hard to kinda track things while you're actually engaged and that sometimes there's a queue that builds up for the folks out phone.
13:36:10 Anyway, that's something that we're looking at. We have some of these other functions the addressing and the road naming is related to the e 9 1 one implementation ordinance
and policy that was instituted, I believe in 2,011.
13:36:24 So we still have that. Then of course the rest of the typical department. Personnel, financial office management, all those those things which we have.
13:36:33 Essentially our administrative services manager and some of her team that helps her, that's Chelsea.
13:36:41 But we don't have, for example, like an actual. Fiscal department or even a person. She's just been learning the ropes with me essentially to be able to do those functions because
our offices are right in that.
13:36:51 I guess sweet spotted field between a larger department like public works or health where they have some of those dedicated staff to a very small department.
13:36:58 And we're somewhere in the middle. You've got just over 20 FTE. And we've got our planners.
13:37:04 So this is both long range planning and development review. And here's just a list of the types of things, not meant to be exhaustive, but just generally on the policy side
of things.
13:37:13 And then we've got on the current planning side of things, which is dealing with all the applications and so forth.
13:37:18 And of course we have our building permits. And that also involves is continuing education commitment because in order to maintain our rating from the ratings bureau we need
to dedicate a certain amount of time to training never mind that it's a good idea but we actually have to do it so we follow up.
13:37:34 There's for example the the Wabo week where a lot of the folks in the building team go to the you know, the building officials group, professional conference that's coming right
up actually.
13:37:44 So not only, of course, we want to develop those internal skills and capacity, but something that we in a sense have to do with we want to maintain that efficiency rating.
13:37:52 For example, we have one staff who of is currently a community development specialist, essentially a permit tech who is training to pass.
13:38:01 A test in order to become a plans examiner. That way that person could. Preview building plans and give some relief to the building efficient.
13:38:09 Then we have the office of the farm marshal that we're also in the process of developing that program.
13:38:15 And there's some more detail below that I'll get into in a sec. And then of course we have co compliance.
13:38:19 And that's for all the different kinds of codes that we have. Mostly it falls into either building or development.
13:38:24 Review code, but, we did actually have a flood code specific case that we have to follow up on from.
13:38:31 From our visit with a ecology staff. Late last year and I'll get into that in a sec 2 that's number 2 on the list.
13:38:36 Any questions about just the programmatic things before I get into the list of projects? No, but that just seems like enough right there.
13:38:43 Okay. Okay, projects. You're all very familiar with this one. I didn't quite catch what someone said this morning, but it's probably neither here nor there.
13:38:54 I was listening and also I heard my name and then I got a phone call. So whenever that was, I'm sure there was.
13:38:59 So we'll be coming back to you soon with another round of discussion. Around the SNP.
13:39:03 But that's once we actually do our local action we send it off to ecology. And as I mentioned before, they had the final approval or not so that we could actually be.
13:39:15 Obligated to do some more work on it depending on what we do. I don't think that's the case, but I haven't also heard from our college you represented in a long time.
13:39:23 I think she just kinda Letting us do our thing and then kind of circle back. And then we have the shoreline user guide to finish up and then we have to train the staff on what
the changes are.
13:39:30 Number 2. This has to do with the community assistance visit that we caught recently. It's supposed to be every 5 years, but it did something like Closer to 15 years, maybe
I would say since the last one.
13:39:42 What we heard from ecology is that there emphasizing counties over cities. Which makes sense, County having more flood planes essentially to manage in cities to in general.
13:39:52 So we had a visit, you know, we got one specific property pointed out to us that we need to do some follow up on and we're doing that.
13:40:00 But that's actually not bad. We thought it was gonna be maybe a little worse. But we've got a lot of changes even since then.
13:40:07 We've got a new fledgling development permit. We're looking at changes to our own flood damage prevention ordinance.
13:40:12 That's chapter 1515 of the JCC. And we're also considering re enrollment in the community rating system and we're going to come to the board soon.
13:40:22 To talk about that, pros and cons of making a decision like that. I'm just gonna keep moving on with your indulgence unless you stop me with any questions.
13:40:30 How's that? Perfect. Okay. Number 3, Growth Management St. Committee.
13:40:36 In fact, that's happening tomorrow evening. That's gonna be our first meeting of that weekend being committee.
13:40:41 And essentially we're their mission is to deal with the Office of Financial Management Population Projections.
13:40:49 Recommending one of the bands to choose to the board. And then also allocating the projected population to different areas, the 2 UGAs in the county, the 2 NPRs in the county
and then the rural lands.
13:41:02 So you'll hear a lot more about that. All board members will tomorrow evening. So I'll just leave it at that.
13:41:06 The one thing that I will mention is that because we may be looking at the countering policies and they're, We have invited tribes, as you know, you sign that letter last week,
I think it was.
13:41:19 And then we sent that out also to staff at Travel Nation. And so we anticipate some interaction and particularly it couldn't involve the revisitation of that one issue around
the Kunal Nation, which is essentially blank zoning spots on the map that you may have to.
13:41:31 I have to solve that puzzle at 1 point. It's been a puzzle that's been around for few decades now but something that's Probably gonna come up as part of that conversation.
13:41:42 Right now we are reviewing the responses to our RFP for additional consultant assistance for the 2025 periodic update.
13:41:51 So we're just exciting. We're taking a look at it. There's, we got 3 responses, but they involve a lot of sub consultants, including some transportation, related services that
were put in a sub-consultants actually to, to the main.
13:42:04 The main firms. So. Will be looking those over and talking with other departments like central services and especially public works for those things that overlap with those
departments.
13:42:14 The health department is also involved. Through, for example, the community health assessment and some other.
13:42:22 Nexus points for us.
13:42:26 That brings us to the periodic update grant, which was just assigned by the board. Last week.
13:42:33 And so we've sent that off to commerce and it'll be executed soon. I'm sure if it hasn't been already that's for.
13:42:39 The whole biennium, so we need to basically split the spending into 2 fiscal years. So that's gonna be interesting.
13:42:45 Exercise because there's only so many months left in this fiscal year so which is kind of the way it works.
13:42:52 Although in theory we could have moved quicker on this, it just wasn't in the cards. But that's okay.
13:42:58 We've had been working on it so we expect to recover some costs even going back to July first of last year, which we can do.
13:43:04 So that's we're going to try to do that same thing with the middle housing grants also by any of base that's a smaller grant.
13:43:10 But it's tied right into what we're doing and it's specially tied into a number 11 that's coming down the pike here.
13:43:16 On the list, but I know we've talked about this. We got the boards approval for that.
13:43:20 So. I'll just move on to the climate planning grant. This one we haven't finished yet.
13:43:24 I owe them. A revised scope of work. And this is a more of a deliverable base grant than it is a fiscal year base grant.
13:43:32 And we have talked about using some of the money for a coordinated water system plan update that's number 8.
13:43:38 I must say that our first response is from the RFP show for more spending that I assumed, might be needed to meet the requirements of house bill 11 anyone for climate planning
so we're kind of take take another look at that but of course we haven't put out the RFP yet for the CWSP so we don't know.
13:43:59 What what we're gonna get in terms of responses there and how much consultants think that we need to spend to update that CWSP.
13:44:07 But both of those things are happening. And there's also, an exciting internal
13:44:14 Climate summit for the county family trying to just assess where we are with the different departments working on different aspects of this, you know, Apple, Martine, and I,
public health director and I went out to WSU Extension last week to have a good conversation with staff there about I think ways in which we can collaborate.
13:44:31 So we're excited about that. And we've already picked some dates for those, so. For this summit.
13:44:37 So this will help. Everything is just help move forward this whole idea of. Of updating our conference plan to at least at the very least reflect all the work that's happening
so far and identify what our priorities are moving forward.
13:44:49 So. That's all partners, all part and parcel. Moving on then to. Number 9, short-term rentals.
13:44:59 This is something that the Chief Strategy Officer, Burn Futler, is working on. I, I believe with Commissioner Dean.
13:45:02 That's the commissioner sponsored in a sense. There's so series of meetings set up for each planning commission district next week So we're moving on that in terms of the policy
discussion.
13:45:13 Not surprisingly, it's the type of thing that generates interest and we've seen in the Peninsula Daily News, for example, that that they were like marathon session city council
meetings in Los Angeles around this topic.
13:45:25 It's a little different for cities, but nonetheless. I would expect some of the same at least that we're going to get some interest here people with different opinions and different
perspectives about this issue.
13:45:33 So. I don't think it's something we're gonna solve overnight, but it's we gotta start somewhere.
13:45:39 So we're having this conversation now that we'll see what generates out of that and what kind of policy options we want to put on the table, So I've had a couple of folks reach
out about the idea of folding the short term rental conversation into that.
13:45:53 Comp plan periodic review. Have you heard that as well? I haven't necessarily heard it from external audience, but it But I think it makes sense where.
13:46:03 We're thinking about efficiencies like that as well, Commissioner, in terms of all these various projects.
13:46:09 Is it best to keep some of them separate or to combine some of them? I think there's pros and cons to that maneuver.
13:46:15 I think there was an initial idea that maybe trying to get some of this work done while we still have Brent full time with us.
13:46:20 I think it's probably more realistic that it's gonna get woven into bigger conversation. For example, the planning commission is continuing to talk about rural housing in general.
13:46:29 And I think it does make sense in the very least to weave it into that conversation. If we're gonna have some policy changes around.
13:46:35 How we look at housing within the confines of course of state law and health codes and things like that.
13:46:41 Then having that conversation together with a short term mental conversation makes sense. Yeah. Just wanted to say that alone, cause it's been right.
13:46:54 It was recent and I'm like, wait, this is what we were just talking about. I think the timing is good though to be starting these community conversations to that can inform
the periodic update.
13:47:04 Absolutely. It's a remarkable that, well, I guess this is the world of community planning, right?
13:47:10 But you can make a case at all 2121 of these things are. Related.
13:47:24 We could bring that mic too if you want a second one. Okay. I don't really have anything important to say, but I can't help myself just that I'm really glad that Josh, and is
working on this, all these things in the comprehensive plan update.
13:47:42 It's just. A reminder that the Deadlines are are real. With all the grant funds we're using from the state and everything because we've had that issue before where portions
of our plan weren't.
13:47:58 Done and then we were eligible for, you know, grants and things. So. I'm not familiar with a lot of these.
13:48:07 Some of these projects, but just. Would be cautious about. Things that might have. Schedule impacts to getting at least the core.
13:48:19 Portions of the you know the plan done because again all the all the the grant work that's happening right now with the Sue and other projects like that.
13:48:29 And this, I'm only saying that just. I don't know because I could, I guess, not through because any concern with the DCD or the work Josh is doing or anything.
13:48:41 Just want to remind people of that. So. Just based on that I relound a little bit to the beginning.
13:48:50 I kind of got this programmatic section, but this part here where it says consistency with growth management, actual, and management act, etc.
13:48:55 What was meant there is that we need to make sure we're in compliance with all these state laws.
13:49:01 Besides just being in compliance. One of the main reasons that if you're out of compliance, then you get in trouble in terms of things like grant funding.
13:49:10 So. That's one of that and it takes more than you think in terms of the effort there to do that.
13:49:16 Okay, so I see that, you have something to, I'm gonna try to move a little quicker, believe it or not.
13:49:25 We're 10, we've got the 2024 cycle. We'll be coming back to you soon on that.
13:49:28 I don't think that we actually received any site specific comprehensive plan amendment proposals or rezone applications essentially this year.
13:49:37 We had some interest but We actually had someone coming for a pre application conference and then withdraw. And I believe we had some others who were talking about it, but didn't
actually apply.
13:49:45 But I'll double check with the staff but I'm That gives us some options actually whether we wanna.
13:49:50 Keep everything on a cycle and separate out the. Comp plan related things from the development code related things, but this is all to come.
13:49:59 We have to kind of assess and see the see the dust clear first but There's at least one thing that we might wanna keep on there and if not 2 and I'll move forward on that and
let you know what that is.
13:50:09 Number 11 is the, And so we are working with public words, in conjunction or trying to, to anyway in terms of the timing of the infrastructure project and how that relates to
when.
13:50:23 The regulations will change about development proposals. We, are revisiting the urban regulations like we talked about before in session here.
13:50:32 And one of those things that we want to do is conduct some outreach that has a visual component in terms of like this conversation of how the area might look.
13:50:40 If all these regulations the ones that we currently have plus any amendments that we make, you know, what kinds of proposals will be, what we see as a result of that.
13:50:48 I know that Commissioner R and how you talked about that. So. When we look at the RFPs, we're going to make sure that the at least one firm that we have on contract has those
kinds of rendering skills or other kinds of features that can do that.
13:50:59 That sort of shreds style. Conversation with the community. Port Townsend, conversation we have been following a particular bill that did pass both chambers.
13:51:12 And it looks like it's most likely going to be signed by the governor. It does open up a possibility for us to do.
13:51:19 And the one that we're thinking of for our standpoint would be in order to include Caswell Brown and perhaps a couple county properties adjacent to Caswall Brown.
13:51:30 Into the UGA of the city. So not in the city boundary but in the UGA of the city and what that would do is just make it simpler to access.
13:51:38 Public funding. To reapply essentially for a grant to help the city extend sewer service to Kazwell Brown.
13:51:47 And but we need to find a companion property or 2 in the city. So we're working on that project and what we're going to do is put a placeholder in the 2,024 complete amendment
cycle so that we can keep that option open until we decide whether we're gonna pursue it or not in reality.
13:52:03 There's the, strategy development grant that I believe Krishna Brotherton reported on earlier today.
13:52:10 And so that's something that was on your consent agenda. The contract as a sub recipient to Colin County and then we're gonna work to initiate the federal procurement process
and get a consultant on board for that.
13:52:20 So we're working on it that has to do with the Glen Cove area. So it's related to the port times in UGA.
13:52:26 And we got a couple NPRs. Portlando and Pleasant Harbor. Course, Portland is the existing one in the sense that it's at least mostly developed.
13:52:33 And, but the development agreement with Portugal associates is set to expire fairly soon.
13:52:39 I think it's a 2025. So we're working with them on that plus the the settlement agreement that is tied at least from a date perspective to the DA.
13:52:50 The subtle agreement has to do with our differing perspectives on whether you can conduct commercial forest practices in certain areas of the NPR.
13:52:57 So we're having a discussion with. And we'll be coming back with some solutions there. The Pleasant Harbor NPR in bringing.
13:53:05 They submitted a platform. We're working with them. We have a consultant to work with them directly.
13:53:10 It still takes a lot of time. I've been finding so far anyway in terms of both my time and some other departments time.
13:53:16 So, That's happening. We've got the fee study that was being finalized.
13:53:22 We'll be coming back to the board with some policy choices. About whether the board wants to, for example, Recuperate 100% of the recoverable fees from running a permit.
13:53:34 What we're finding is that our preliminary results are that our hourly fee is it does not represent half percent cost recovery so the choice is gonna be where do we want to
follow that we want to seek 100% or somewhere lower in each.
13:53:50 Durstition has done things differently in that regard. So we'll be coming with those. Policy choices I've been talking with the county administrator about that though this whole
time while we're waiting.
13:53:58 Office of the Fire Marshal. We're just, we're continuing to develop this program.
13:54:05 We're advertising right now for a deputy fire marshal. We're gonna ramp up the inspection program.
13:54:10 The fire marshal will be coming seen to you about adjusting the burn ban protocols, revisiting the fireworks policy.
13:54:15 And then we have the follow up work with the community welfare protection plan, including once that plan is adopted to seek rent funding to continue to expand the program so
we're not just expanding our own general $5 or other dollars.
13:54:28 Stock plans you've heard a lot about that program which is we're still working on it together with the city.
13:54:34 Brent still working on that with Emma Ballon, the cities planning director. CSS, this is has to do with Intergov or currently called or now called EPL.
13:54:43 This has to do with taking advantage of the full suite of tools within that system. So. This is more of a county administrators office program, but we're of course involved
just like the health department is and others who use the tool.
13:54:56 And we're just striving for that day when we could fully utilize it. So. Oh, where meanwhile we're working with it as it is now.
13:55:04 And that kind of relates in some ways to the implementation of setup. 52 90 from not this session, but before.
13:55:12 Which this changed some rules around how quickly you can, you have to review permits. And so we're looking at how other counties are doing that.
13:55:21 The development code administrator is going to go to a multi county. Meeting this month that happens every quarter with all the all sort of the bigger counties like the King
counties and snow homage counties of the world.
13:55:30 And I've gone to that a couple of times and this time Greg Baller is going to go to learn a little bit more about.
13:55:35 Among other things, how other counties are handling this particular issue. I think everyone's struggling to figure out what to do about that bill and how to do it.
13:55:43 And this kind of ties back a little bit to other permit center related changes that we're looking at.
13:55:48 Can we develop? More sophisticated tools around dashboards and things like that that could help communicate to the public like how long it takes to get different kinds of permits.
13:55:58 I mean, on all permits are created equal, even within a kind of permit, you've got your complicated cases in your easy cases or simpler cases, but certainly by the different
permit types you've got, you've heard a lot about conditional uses and now they're more complicated than just that.
13:56:10 A type one process. In our code. And then finally the strategic plan. So the county minister came over to visit me at my office.
13:56:18 A couple of weeks ago and started that conversation about. About the 20 some odd things where DCD is listed as the responsible party or at least a co responsible party.
13:56:29 And we went through that list and some of those things overlap with these other things. So in a sense, hopefully mostly, I mean, As we're putting that plan together, I remember
having that thought a number of times like.
13:56:41 Is this something we're already gonna be doing? Yeah, yeah, I, I think many too.
13:56:47 I don't know about mostly in the sense of There are 20 things and some of the things are not things that we have to do.
13:56:52 They're things that someone wanted to do and I don't remember the problem from my perspective in that whole.
13:56:58 Process was that it was right at a time where I wasn't able to dedicate as much time as I would have liked to that strategic planning process.
13:57:06 So some things got in the plan that when I revisited them and looked at the language. I wondered out loud, like first of all, like maybe what some of it meant or what, what
the objective was or then secondly, like, is that something we can really do?
13:57:17 Or maybe we've already done that. And we've already got results from that. So I'll work with Mark to come back to you with as we as the departments come and report on this process,
but.
13:57:28 I think that there are some things that. Just giving you a heads up that I might come back and with a result of.
13:57:34 Now we've done the analysis and that's something we can't really do. But some of the other things have to do with, for example, this permit tracking and those kinds of things.
13:57:42 And that's why I mentioned those other things that we are trying to work on those. Both in terms of trying to comport with 52 90 but also to fully, utilize the EPL to continue
to improve our our permanent process, but it just so happens that it meets some of those strategic And.
13:58:03 Good to go. Do you mind stopping sharing so I can see Greg. So, questions, for Josh?
13:58:17 None other than the view I covered in while he was talking.
13:58:24 Yeah, no, no great questions. I really appreciate the presentation, Josh. A lot of work, as Heidi said.
13:58:31 I think is you have 2. So, yeah, appreciate all the directions. One, I guess.
13:58:37 Brainstorm I had really was Yeah, try not to add to the list, of course.
13:58:44 The stock plans just as we work with on the recompete. With the CRTC and making which makes, you know, CLT facades and everything basically.
13:58:57 It came up in conversation just the other day. There might be some Nexus with our stock plans and with their plans as they look to make you know, tiny houses and everything.
13:59:07 If we had a stock plan that was pretty aligned with Portangelis or whatever that we could deliver to these.
13:59:15 Facade builders basically it seems it seems like the perfect application of that is I guess what I'm saying so I'm really just Raising it for something to consider and happy
to make further connections, but yeah a lot of good work going on there and I appreciate the direction you've been.
13:59:33 Guiding DCD and it looks it looks like a lot but it also looks like it's Good project management that has been applied so they've been broken down into their, you know, this
is this and this is that and it made a lot of sense.
13:59:45 So thank you.
13:59:48 Got a few questions. It just sounds like so much work in a, you know, relatively short period.
13:59:58 So curious where you're at with staffing level and, how long Brent's gonna be around for.
14:00:12 Aside from the Deputy Fire Marshal position that's currently advertised, we don't have any plans to ask for any additional staff.
14:00:21 We may revisit that question once we get into this. The difficulty would be we have grant funding from commerce to do a lot of this work.
14:00:31 But if we brought on staff to do the work. Then there could be a point in time in the future after this biennium concludes where we don't have the funding to sustain that staff
level anymore.
14:00:42 Plus we don't have the space. Man either. So the good news is that like I said, we have 3 consultants already on under contract and we expect to add to that.
14:00:56 To that bench of consultant assistance if you will. So that in addition to the fact that we have a new assistant planner, Vince, who I introduce you to at the planning commission
retreat, he's doing fantastic so far and so.
14:01:09 We've got Vince, George, Terry has been doing a little bit more along this planning.
14:01:15 Of course we still have Joel and then we have Donna Frost home is gonna work on the climate planning grant work.
14:01:19 So I wish I could say with complete confidence that I feel like I have the full group in order to do this but I I have to see how this whole thing plays out just to just to
be honest about it.
14:01:32 I do think that we have a plan though to make it happen and if we can get the consultants on board.
14:01:36 And really effectively hand off. A lot of the a lot of the work to them without having to dedicate too much time to sort of consultant management if you will then I think it
will be okay.
14:01:49 I know that we're not the only jurisdiction that is in this position. So. I think we're just gonna do our best.
14:01:55 And, at least we've got it mapped out, I believe, but I do agree with you in the sense that when I was putting this together and looking at the 21 or so things that came to
mind, maybe there's some more.
14:02:08 That in addition to just the programmatic elements that we started with, does feel like, does feel like a challenge, especially for this next.
14:02:16 Year and a half. And Grant's bread. So, Brents, he's of course, both inside DCD and has relationship to the county administration's office.
14:02:32 You know, he essentially reports to Mark. And so they have an agreement. And I certainly would prefer to have Brent speak for himself in this regard for his plans, but my understanding
based on a conversation that the 3 of us had is that
14:02:46 March 30 first is when Brent's full time employment status looks will end and then he'll transition to a clerk higher status or whether there's gonna be a delay or whether it's
immediate I'm not quite sure but we'll start with the Clerk higher which has a monthly limit on hours and then that will tail off as the projects that he's working on, which is some
half dozen projects, begin to get to
14:03:10 a place where either they're finished or we can hand it off to another staff member. So. Mark Brent and I talked about that.
14:03:16 That transition lastly until September of this year. Great. Thank you. But that could be subject to change though.
14:03:24 Alright. How do you feel about the extension of the deadline for the count plan?
14:03:34 Interesting. So when I checked that bill this morning, it looked like it had passed one chamber but just stalled in the house.
14:03:43 It looked like it just never went out of the house local government committee, but then I heard what you said this morning, Commissioner Do you know I was curious, maybe there's
a different bill.
14:03:50 That is carrying the water on that. I think it did. I guess while you're looking that up, I mean, Perfect.
14:04:01 So I must, I must have the wrong. So, companion 61 50.
14:04:16 That's probably, you know, that's what it was. I was following 61 50 and it looks like it wasn't good.
14:04:22 Evening house local government, but of course the other. That's great news. I think it's great news.
14:04:27 And to temper the excitement a little bit that does not change. The deadlines for expanding the commerce funds.
14:04:36 Alright, so that's still based on a by any. We still have to spend all those funds by June 30 at 2025 which means that It's similar to the Sherling Master program in the sense
that we haven't had any grant funding since last June thirtieth, 2,023 on that and we're still as you know using this consultant so it can get expensive if you're still working on
14:04:56 something and you don't have the grant funding for. So my objective would still be to try to.
14:04:59 Utilize the consultants all the way through June twentieth June thirtieth 2025, but it does give us a little breathing room, I think, to use at least some of them.
14:05:08 I think to use at least some of the remaining months of 2,025 to do the legislative work with you for example and I think to use at least some of the remaining months of 2025
to do the legislative work with you for example and maybe even the planning and we might just have to pay out of pocket a little bit if we're going to still utilize the consultants
throughout that process, but maybe we'll try
14:05:21 to do it a little bit differently and not rely on having the consultants at every meeting for example like we have tried to do with the Shoreline Master Program.
14:05:31 Oh, please do.
14:05:28 Greg, do you mind if I ask my last? That is related. So, and sorry that we're running late for 2 o'clock item.
14:05:40 I don't know if you, this is probably what you heard when I mentioned your name.
14:05:44 This morning, is the, We have the T-lab planning a transportation conference and they came to us asking for funding to help support the conference, which you know, I think we're
willing to do out of the general fund, but I did wonder if that.
14:06:01 If this could be interesting and valuable for informing count plan. Transportation element. And also if there were any.
14:06:13 If you felt there were going to be additional outreach funds available that could support that effort, as part of some outreach for count plan too.
14:06:24 Of course, we'd want to, you know, talk to Telap and see if you could have some of your needs met through that process as well.
14:06:29 But just wanted to plant that seed. We don't have to talk about it now, but maybe when Mark's back, we can see.
14:06:35 Yes, I heard that. I was familiar with it with the conference being planned. Immediately sent it to Vince on my team since I wanted to be the liaison with Public Works for updating
our transportation element.
14:06:48 To see if you were available to participate in that conference on April, nineteenth, I believe it is. In terms of the the money piece I'd have to We read the contract with commerce
and just see if.
14:07:01 If there's any issues with, utilizing a small portion of that. To supplement and then we'll have the conversation with Mark when he gets back.
14:07:09 And I'm not expecting it to come out of your budget, but you know, if you were in a position saying like, oh, we have it to come out of your budget.
14:07:16 But, you know, if you were in a position saying like, we have these outreach monies we need to spend, this could be a value, just to.
14:07:18 Just an idea. Greg.
14:07:22 Yeah, my question was really just a question. When you mentioned the short term rentals and I might be conflating different meetings.
14:07:28 You said the Brent was setting up. Some meetings in each of the districts next week. And I guess I thought my impression was that the respective commissioner was gonna be invited
to those meetings that I just haven't seen any words.
14:07:42 So I'm not. Am I thinking about something else or? Can you go into those a little bit more?
14:07:56 Hmm.
14:07:47 Commissioner Brothers and I think I'd have to get back to you on that because Brent is orchestrating that effort and I thought it was more of a planning commissioner so maybe
it was the Planning Commissioner from those at least one planning commissioner from each district if not all 3 because that would be less than a quorum would attend those district meetings.
14:08:07 Gotcha. That makes sense.
14:08:08 I wasn't sure we're talking about County Commissioner, but I will ask him though and I think if you expressed interest, I don't think there's anything wrong with one county
commissioner going to each of those meetings?
14:08:18 I think that was the intent and I'll see if I can find. I have one.
14:08:26 Invite. Let's see, Wendy Davis sent to us all on.
14:08:35 February sixteenth the press release that that mentioned states and such so I think Maybe was not. Sent us a direct invitation to each commissioner but I think that was the
intent originally when Brett and I talked about it.
14:08:53 But I'll leave it to other commissioners to decide so it's a the twelfth is at Cape George, which will include, even though that's in district 2, will include some of the.
14:09:04 Well, really district one is regulated by the city. So outside of our purview, but still I'd like to take part in that one.
14:09:12 March thirteenth at the Triare community center, March fourteenth at the Quilcy and Community Center all at 5 30.
14:09:18 Gotcha. Okay.
14:09:20 Next time I see Brento I will I'll mention it to you, Commissioner Brethren and have him contact you directly about March fourteenth.
14:09:27 At the quilt.
14:09:29 Thank you.
14:09:30 And I think when they were when they were playing, they're imagining you would go take Jordan.
14:09:35 I went to try area. Yeah. I do have one thing about the Planning Commission. I'd like to mention it if we have time, I know we've already gone.
14:09:43 And that's only that, as I mentioned in the programmatic section, you know, we were staffed to the Planning Commission and One thing we need to do is fill a seat.
14:09:55 That's been vacated recently. And I think you got the announcement from one of the planning commissioners who is stepping down.
14:10:00 And that term was going to expire anyway in March. So we have to advertise for that particular term.
14:10:05 Now there's another term that technically is also expiring, but the you made a recent appointment to that term.
14:10:13 And that person's only been on a plan commission for 2, maybe 3 months or so, something of that nature, maybe, 4, but.
14:10:20 Fairly short term. And my assumption was that you intended to appoint that person to fill the rest of the term that was vacated in order for that person to continue.
14:10:30 And if that's the case, then we were going to plan a consent agenda item for this coming Monday where you'd simply just exterm extend that term and it's aren't stronging. I
think Carolyn has something to mention.
14:10:40 Yeah, I like to interject. I was just gonna, you had me research it before the meeting started and I pulled up the agenda requests for October, 2,023 and.
14:10:50 And that's the agenda request that approved Arn's drumming to the Planning Commission.
14:10:55 And in the first paragraph, it says.
14:10:59 I'll just start from the beginning. Interviews have been conducted to fill 2 vacant seats on the 9 member Jefferson County Planning Commission.
14:11:05 Appointees feeling these seats will complete. The remainder of the unexpected terms then be eligible for reappointment to a full four-year term.
14:11:13 The annexpired term of the district one seat runs to March. 1720 24.
14:11:17 And the unexpected term of the district to see it runs from to March, seventeenth, 2026.
14:11:22 So I don't know if that was clear enough. And that by that agenda request that was approved.
14:11:30 If that. Would allow you then to just have that person our. Complete the next 4 year term.
14:11:36 So that's the question on the table. Yeah, I said eligible so I'm open to whatever decision you make about that it would be simplest if we just said great and just kept going.
14:11:45 So I'm pretty darn sure that Arn who I think is enjoying himself so far on the commission would want to continue.
14:11:49 And that was, I'm sure you probably had that in mind, but. But I wasn't sure.
14:11:52 So yeah, and I believe that's the intent, but, the commissioner should wait in on that.
14:11:58 I, you know, having selection process and interview process. I think it would be great to keep him on.
14:12:08 I don't know if that. We need to consider a policy whereby if you're filling in a Yeah.
14:12:15 Rounding out a term if that's less than a certain amount of time then you automatically serve the next turn as well.
14:12:26 But yeah, I mean, ours just gotten up to speed. So it seems silly to start a new process.
14:12:29 How about next time we do something like this will be more explicit even than that in when we make the actual action to appoint a person to complete an unexpected term.
14:12:40 But in this particular case, just to make sure we're just crossing all the T's, we could easily put together a sense of agenda item for this coming Monday which you just simply
if you consent to it then then barren would go for another another full term starting in March.
14:12:51 Greg, thoughts?
14:12:54 I mean, you know, it's only recently that we made, you know, planning commissioners even.
14:12:58 Really compete for when the seat was open. But this seems just like a Yeah, it seems logical to, appointment for another term.
14:13:10 So I'm, supportive of the idea and also of writing down explicitly what our policy is and when when does that come?
14:13:15 I mean, you know, like Mike in this district 2 in 2 years it probably it seems more reasonable to me that if someone else was interested in the spot too you know you still put
a reappoint him he doesn't have to reapply as a new applicant would have to but if he indicates interest in staying.
14:13:29 That we still accept new ones. Jimmy, I mean, I guess there, I'm not sure where that time is, but I would like to define that before too long, but I'm supportive of just putting
our in on the consent agenda.
14:13:43 Okay. And try to not lose track of this other little policy piece.
14:13:51 Maybe we can consider it with, when we consider mics. Position. Okay, maybe it's like less than a year.
14:13:58 Yeah, because doing that process twice in a year. Yeah, it's a lot of work for staff.
14:14:04 Yep.
14:14:05 Yeah, Alex, if we take it seriously. I remember when, Lauren, a seat was open and then people started applying and then they're like, Wait, Lauren is reapplying.
14:14:16 I don't want to. The position anymore and I was just like, oh god.
14:14:23 Alright, anything else for Josh?
14:14:26 Thank you. It's a ton of work. Just for tracking down, writing it all down now we.
14:14:36 We can appreciate you even more. Seeing so clearly everything you're working on. Hey, and we'll see you tomorrow night.
14:14:43 Yeah.
14:14:45 Alright. We have our next agenda item, which is the discussion of the healthier together task force.
14:14:56 Not sure how we want to handle this discussion. Craig.
14:15:01 Market asked that I kind of leave this conversation. I'm prepared to that is it okay with you?
14:15:07 It is, yep. I.
14:15:09 You might have sorry go ahead.
14:15:12 Did you see we've, John Marras in the attendee list? John, if you want to come over or interject comment, feel free to raise your hand and we'll bring you over.
14:15:22 Yeah, I know Kerry is in a meeting right now, so she won't be with us, but we might just take a look.
14:15:27 We do have Diane McDade here. Okay, okay, John, would like to join.
14:15:30 Okay.
14:15:31 Yes, good.
14:15:35 Yes, yes.
14:15:33 Great. I want Diane's in the room. Okay, well I would welcome Diane, maybe Diane could come up to a microphone.
14:15:40 I don't know, it'd be great if she has anything to interject. We're still.
14:15:44 Or correct any mischaracterizations when we were at the steering committee meeting last week, I was unfortunately in a car so could only participate.
14:15:53 Intermittently, that was John gonna test. I was. I was dressed appropriately. Yeah.
14:15:58 DAN, would you, would you be willing to sit at the table by a microphone so that you can join in if, you're so inclined.
14:16:07 And Yeah, and welcome to Jen Moro City Manager.
14:16:10 And, Kerry Height had just distributed I got today kind of the, the one pager I would say for the healthier together.
14:16:19 Diane made some modifications on the workforce, but I think it's even though we haven't we've not ratified this through anything but I think it would be helpful as a template
so unless Diane or John objects I'm going to share my screen and and share that document that we can walk through.
14:16:33 And you know, basically what's before us, the real question is how do we seep these members, these 8 members of, of the task force.
14:16:43 Well, 6 of them, that is kind of our responsibility. And one thing that is evolved and I shared back with the group today.
14:16:50 In our conversations is that we it looks like we're probably going to have to follow OPMA for these task force.
14:16:58 But I don't think it's a big problem. The way I see it, it means under staff you see Kerry Height, director from Parks and Rec Strategy from, Singapore Town and it probably
means that we have some county support here as well under staff.
14:17:12 So. Carolyn or someone from our office to. Facilitate the OPMA requirements is I'm guessing as well.
14:17:20 So 6 members appointed by the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners and the work product, you know, I might ask Diane after you kind of look through this.
14:17:29 There were a few other things as well and I think there were 6 items that Diane identified from our previous meetings, at least one of which I was at.
14:17:38 To for the task force to do and the one that's not really here is also go back and evaluate the Opsis plans and designs that came out of the first year of the steering committee
and kind of the homework would be.
14:17:51 Coming up to speed with that. And then Diane, what else did you mention that was not on this list?
14:17:58 There was 2 one or 2 others.
14:18:00 I think the idea of looking at the MVP studies, the Mountain View pool studies that have been performed and reviewing those to look more closely at the rehab rebuild, expand
options that those 3 studies touch on.
14:18:17 Totally, thank you. And then of course the meeting protocols would change a little bit if after legal review, which we're, I think we're kicking off now.
14:18:25 We do say that we should. Subscribed to OPMA and just for Diane and John and anyone else in the public that wasn't here earlier.
14:18:35 There was public comment, you know, pointing out that in our own policy, if there's any advisory board or task force that is making a recommendation to the BOCC, even if it's
going through the steering committee, then it should be subject to OPMA.
14:18:48 So it seems like a low bar to clear since I think we were all agreed to make these accessible to the public in any event.
14:18:59 So I don't know. Yeah, John.
14:18:59 Yeah, thank you, Commissioner. Just this is maybe me using and I was still, Tailen battling COVID when I was on this call last week.
14:19:07 So I think I'm still hearing. One of the things, I wanted to maybe draw from previous engagements we've had is a task force that is both publicly visible and you know open to
public participation but also you know maybe not the sole vehicle for receiving public comment so you know if I were to make any adjustment to the words in that document you're sharing
now I might say you know that the governing bodies
14:19:34 are the right place for those public comments to be brought to and it isn't limited to just those meetings.
14:19:38 I mean, at least the city we I believe you as well accept public comment electronically at any time.
14:19:44 Absolutely. I think that's good. I think that should be written into the the charter true to make sure that The task force is not supposed to be a political operation or agency,
right?
14:19:53 So separating them from that, I think is really critical. It's a really good point. Sure.
14:19:56 And you can with OPMA with, without, you know, including public comments. And so there's an opportunity to do that.
14:20:06 I will say too, it's not just in, our policy that it calls out that advisory boards are, subject to OPMA, but that, you know, that's part of OPMA as well that if we are forming,
you know, at the request of the BOCC forming a committee that we are required to comply with OPMA.
14:20:25 So. Because that is a foregone conclusion.
14:20:28 Yep. Okay. And these are kind of the criteria that we talked about for board members and just again to remind you or task force members, excuse me, that we today are going to
come up with the the method for selecting those members.
14:20:44 That's our work plan today. So I think most of these came straight from our conversation at the BOCC, the work plan today.
14:20:53 So I think most of these came straight from our conversation at the BOCC, you know, familiarity with the work.
14:20:54 You want to find a way to a pool, able to commit time. We want of course 3 district representation 2 from each district plus the jack member and the city member.
14:21:03 And, you know, diverse representation, there's all sorts of diversity. Really what we're looking here for is in being inclusive and bringing as many disparate groups into into
the conversation as we can balance of skill sets.
14:21:19 So some construction is good, some financial oversight, experience would be great. If you've made a pool, that's, that seems like a good skill, you know, And then, yeah, familiarity
with aquatics and you know.
14:21:32 This one I kind of said earlier, but really you want to find a way to get to a pool like, you know, we're at this point looking.
14:21:40 It's not we're not looking for Pollyannas, but we are looking for people that want to critically approach this very challenging work.
14:21:47 With an I on the goal, on the prize, which is a new pool that can benefit the community.
14:21:54 So.
14:21:54 Okay. Do you feel like that's included in this criteria, Greg?
14:22:01 I mean, I might rephrase that last one and you know, this Again, this is the work of one person right now distilling a conversation into a document that is very helpful, but
I think that that particular bullet point could be a little clearer.
14:22:17 Yeah.
14:22:20 Anything else I missed John or Diane from the conversation?
14:22:27 I was just gonna, can I plus one your comments commissioner about, you know, maybe some steer from the commission on the objective in terms of getting to, you know, what is
feasible? What is yes?
14:22:39 I don't know if that comes through largely here, so I just wanted to appreciate that common use man.
14:22:44 Yes.
14:22:46 Yeah, maybe it's like what the the task forces. Process for making a recommendation or something. Clear about.
14:22:56 The end goal of the task force.
14:23:00 Well, yeah, I mean, I really were it's kind of a The second bite at the apple. That's how I look at it.
14:23:08 But yeah, we can we could probably make that a little clear, but let's try one more time to cast the the net a little wider and looking for a path of solution, but yes.
14:23:17 But this, I don't want, I don't want to get high centered on, on the wording in this paper before after our next steering committee meeting.
14:23:24 I'm sure we can refine this and when that group is satisfied with it, I'll bring it.
14:23:27 Back to the BRCC and I'm sure John took it to the city as well. Okay.
14:23:32 Okay, I'm gonna.
14:23:32 Yeah, I would appreciate more clarity around. That we're seeking people who are interested in the.
14:23:43 And identifying solutions that result in aquatic facility in Jefferson County. Something. Do you mean if we go back?
14:23:56 Cause I'm still a little unclear on this question of is the task force advising. The steering committee.
14:24:03 The BSCC and City Council. I think that's what the language as it was stated and.
14:24:10 Would be helpful for me to better understand any conversation that was had about that kind of who are they reporting to and, oh, another question too, somewhat related to that
is the staffing I saw just Kerry was listed but I think originally we had talked about Mark McCauley being included in that as well.
14:24:25 Did that get dismissed?
14:24:26 Right. No, no, Mark was included in that as well. Yes, he should be added to that list.
14:24:33 And I don't know, Diane, John, you wanna Give us your conclusions from our conversations.
14:24:42 Well, I mean, I think the original, the first time we talked about it, which was in late January, I think the idea was that they, report back to the steering body.
14:24:52 And that the stream body would, you know, be open to hearing all of this data that's collected and any new findings.
14:24:59 And then in this last meeting, there was discussion about presenting all the information publicly. And I think in that context, they thought it made sense to brief.
14:25:08 The city council and this group. But, I mean, I don't think we had a lot of discussion about that topic.
14:25:17 I don't think we've had a lot of conclusive conversation about it. I've asked this question myself.
14:25:22 Several times and it's a little it is a little squishy but I mean Like if we go back to the report from from Susan and that I think both Heidi and Kate have gotten a copy of
that draft.
14:25:33 Review as well. It kind of also asked that question. I think in that report it's reflected as going through the steering body to the BOCC since the BOCC is the agency that would
have to you know, launch the PFD.
14:25:48 That ultimately it's informing that but but still going through the steering committee and of course, did I did I capture that?
14:25:55 Correctly, John.
14:25:56 No, no, no, no, I've just got, no, I had somebody add what I wanted.
14:26:01 I can't.
14:26:00 Okay, and then I of course keeping our other stakeholders like I have no problem with the inclusion of poor towns and city council on that list.
14:26:09 I think you know they're Very important partners in this process. The city of Port Townsend has been got guiding this process so far.
14:26:15 So. That's that's how I saw it, but ultimately it's going to be the BOCC that starts the PFT if it gets started.
14:26:24 Yeah, no, I mean, I think that makes sense, for what it's worth for me.
14:26:30 I guess the thing that's more complicated at the work product is wider than deciding whether or not to go to the voters.
14:26:36 For me, I guess the thing that's more complicated at the work product is wider than deciding whether or not to go to the voters, the remit does have some necessary nexus with
other agencies that would play a role.
14:26:41 You know, for instance, if it was in a different location or a different structure, it would impact the recommendations of the steering committee's article forward.
14:26:47 So I think the most elegant way, I think, is as you propose where it comes back to the VOCC because you are, you know, literally, you know, pushing go on the task force, but
that, any opportunity for other institutions like the city to take it through our governing body and make sure it's awareness, opportunity for public comment or decision making is always
kind of necessary.
14:27:11 So it's additive. And kind of close enough to the, to the remit that we should, we should definitely be involved, but it's really BMC.
14:27:21 Does that answer your question, Kate?
14:27:24 It does. And I think I'm probably just struggling with my new role and having to step back and Realizing I wanna jump into much greater detail that is no longer in my purview.
14:27:37 So.
14:27:37 And these meetings are so much fun. You're really missing out too. Trying to add to your phone.
14:27:39 Hmm.
14:27:44 So, but the question just, not to put to find a point on it is, you know, do we want to have like post open positions like we would for a planning commissioner position.
14:27:56 Do we want to actively recruit people based on these criteria, including the one that we're going to clarify a little about looking for solutions.
14:28:05 Or a combination, I mean we can do both of those things of course we could have an open listing and then also say, hey, I think you'd be great for this.
14:28:14 And then what's the process for decision-making that you guys want to. Make those selections with and we you know again we're trying to start these meetings in the beginning
of April.
14:28:27 So with the 2 week. You know 2 weeks in the paper We don't have a long time to.
14:28:34 Dither over the process for selection
14:28:38 And has anyone asked the question whether there is any statutory requirement? Given that, you know, we're identifying that this is a advisory.
14:28:49 Bored. I mean, we have many. They all seem to have very different. Requirements but oh mister Hansard just popped up.
14:28:54 No.
14:28:57 I I gave him permission to speak in line. And we have we have briefly chatted on this over the weekend via email.
14:29:05 So And it was actually regarding another committee, but the same kind of rule applies if the BOCC appoints the members.
14:29:12 So I give him permission to speak if he was able to.
14:29:16 Philip, would you like to? Are you at a place that you would like to speak to? This process.
14:29:28 Oh yeah. Okay.
14:29:26 He very well might be multitasking and you know, listen. Yeah, I, I like the idea of how, affording people opportunity to apply.
14:29:42 Instead of just like recruiting. And that means anybody who's interested could apply.
14:29:48 And it just reflecting on recent appointments to other boards and committees. There have been people who Super qualified people who I had no idea about.
14:29:59 Or the planning commission for example. That applied and that was great. And so I think there's probably people out there that we don't know.
14:30:08 Who are relevant to this? Issue that may be interested in participating that we would want. To allow to apply.
14:30:19 On that note, the Jackboard has, decided we'd like to put out a mailing, to our supporters and let them know about this.
14:30:31 And that way, we may unearth people that way. And, we'd be happy to share names of interested parties, you know, as appropriate with their permission.
14:30:40 With the commissioners because hopefully we'll, we'll have way more people than we can select ourselves.
14:30:46 And then be good to have people reflect on the qualities that are outlined on that document, you know.
14:30:51 For themselves so that we have a full sense of who we're considering.
14:30:56 I mean, perhaps I could, I could take a stab at revising Kerry's document, send it back to the steering committee.
14:31:03 And and use that as a posting recruiting people for this task force does that I mean I I favor that idea too you know you don't we don't know everyone there's Hundreds and hundreds
of people throughout the county and I'm sure there's more qualified people that we don't.
14:31:20 But we don't know of.
14:31:22 Yeah, I think in the in the spirit of transparency that it would be good to have that be an open process.
14:31:29 You know, I would argue that legal notice, I mean, I'm curious if legal notice is required, but you know, that that reaches a very small number of people actually.
14:31:41 So I would be more interested in a social media. You know, using, other channels where we hit, folks who are, interested but not necessarily reading legal notices in the newspaper,
which I don't even read and I'm a nerd.
14:31:58 And then, I would suggest, maybe requesting a letter of interest with a word limit and asking them to speak to those.
14:32:09 Criteria how they meet those criteria. And then, I think in the, in the interest of time, just allowing each commissioner, from there to choose from their district.
14:32:20 And maybe the board of commissioners then could, adopt that slate. Just to have a little check and balance, you know, in case.
14:32:32 You know, one of us were to select someone that clearly had a conflict of interest or you know. We were concerned about motivation or something that there would be another check
where we would say, yeah, and that's it.
14:32:44 I think let's go back to the drawing board on that one or you try to come to agreement as board on the total slate.
14:32:51 Be my my recommendation. Versus an interview process, you know, going like. Drawing in too many more steps.
14:32:53 That's, Yep. I like a one page letter of letter interest and yeah. It's each of us choosing 2 members from each district.
14:33:06 Heidi, how does that sit with you?
14:33:08 That's good to me. Yeah, sounds good.
14:33:09 Okay, and I think, you know, legal notice is one thing, but 2, you know, 2 weeks is no problem and that's kind of the minimum time you want to give people to be able to get.
14:33:17 Hip to the opportunity. So looks like we could have publication ready for consent on March eleventh, so gives a couple days.
14:33:27 I'll get a draft out by tomorrow. I don't think I'm gonna be able to do it today, but I can spend time on it tomorrow afternoon.
14:33:31 Can we get input on this process from Diane and John? Just what do you think of what we've outlined?
14:33:36 Yeah.
14:33:39 It sounds good to me. Yeah.
14:33:43 One focus thumb and one blurry thumb from John. So I guess that's support.
14:33:48 Okay, there we go. Hmm.
14:33:47 Good. Great.
14:33:52 So yeah, we'll, get it ready for consent on the eleventh and I'll, work with with Carolyn and I work with Carolyn after.
14:34:02 Kind of redrafting this to make these a couple of points of clarification, getting Diane 6 points in there clearly I think is helpful.
14:34:10 And then making sure that we, you know. Like, Kate, you and I said, you know, really focusing on the fact that we're looking for solutions right now.
14:34:18 We're not looking to It's easy to knock down the house of cards.
14:34:22 One other question about process. Be you know I think we wanna cognizant of the fact that this task force is helping the BOCC.
14:34:43 You know, make a hard decision if we're gonna pull the trigger on the PFD. So while I appreciate that the steering committee is working on the scope of work.
14:34:54 I would, I would like to be able to. To at least just have a look at that before that's finalized because we want to be sure that You know, one of the purposes is getting us
the information we need to feel good about the decision before us at some point.
14:35:12 So can we.
14:35:12 I'm sorry, can you, about the recruitment letter I was just talking about? You'd like to see a draft?
14:35:14 No, the scope of work and you know, so the document you just showed us is the first time I've seen any, you know, it's great you guys just worked on that last week in the steering
committee but just like I'd love to not have the steering committee just totally go ahead with the like what the task force is gonna do, the scope of their work, I work product, maybe
you called it, but
14:35:41 if we can, like I'd love to be able to look at that and ensure that that's gonna give us the information we need.
14:35:42 So if we could have checkpoints with the steering committee and the BOCC and make sure that we're you.
14:35:48 Well, maybe, we don't put it on consent next week, but kind of. Polish up this scope of work and we can do a brief workshop in the morning or afternoon or whenever go through
it and do the, you know, take the action to post a notice at the same time because I think they're really connected the the scope of work or whatever you want to call it and the Cause
we
14:36:14 we want potential applicants to be able to see this as well, I think.
14:36:19 I think it's really important that we outline that this is not the steering committee.
14:36:24 We're recruiting people to do to. I mean, I know that might sound really basic, but I've had a number of folks from the community who are somewhat paying attention to this issue
or.
14:36:32 Very much paying attention to this issue, reach out and be confused as to whether where we're grouping people to join the steering committee or we're actually creating a new
committee or why are we why are we even having a new committee I mean you know of course I'm getting all those comments but I think.
14:36:50 Being clear in the call for applications that this is not the steering committee. This is a new task force.
14:36:58 Just giving a little enough background that people. Know what they're actually, raising their hand for.
14:37:04 Because it feels like it could be it get confusing really quick for folks.
14:37:12 Yep. No, good point. Understood.
14:37:18 Great. Anything else? Anyone? We did.
14:37:25 Did we say we were going to take public comment? We did.
14:37:27 Oh yeah. So yeah, no action, but we can take public comment.
14:37:30 Okay, great. So, we welcome members of the public to, comment on just on the agenda item before us right now, preferably on the proposal.
14:37:42 We just Discussed? Anyone from the public? Can hit the raise hand button and we'll bring you over.
14:37:57 I've been putting stuff in the chat box regarding agenda plan or timeline for this topic. The public might be interested.
14:38:06 So you saying in these chats that we can't do it on the eleventh? The morning of the, we, since we move the, Public health update, we are a little more crammed.
14:38:14 Especially if there's gonna be a public comment period but. It would have to be that it would have to be approved for publication by noon.
14:38:21 So we can kind of figure that out.
14:38:27 Hmm.
14:38:23 I'll work with Carolyn and it could be that we, you know, post, post to the notice and continue to, refine that scope of work after that.
14:38:34 And I think that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
14:38:36 Right. Okay. Right, good afternoon, Mr.
14:38:40 Oh, good afternoon again. Commissioners again. Yeah, in, in refining this document in the discussions about the meetings being subject to OPMA.
14:38:52 You were also talking about how public comment was going to be accepted. And that you were gonna say public comment should be directed either to the BOCC or to the city council.
14:39:06 Well, you can't do that. Yes. Public Meetings Act says that public comment. Must be accepted at every meeting that is subject to the OPMA.
14:39:15 Now that doesn't say it has to be oral public comment. It can be written only. But you do have to accept public comment.
14:39:22 It to the task force directly. That's really, really clear. I can give you the citation if you want.
14:39:32 We believe you.
14:39:29 It's 42 30 dot 2 40. Paragraph one. So, that, just a fine point on as, you refining the document.
14:39:40 Thanks very much.
14:39:41 Thank you, Mr. Teersch. Shelley, good afternoon. Yeah, and our agenda has that
14:39:47 Good afternoon. I just have a couple of comments. One on the steering committee versus the task force.
14:39:56 You're meeting last week, even you guys weren't sure who was doing what. So I think that's really important.
14:40:04 It's important that it's clear. It's important that it's concise. It's important that everybody is saying the same thing because that's part of the problem that we're having
now.
14:40:15 Depending on who you talk to, you get different stories. And probably what I want to say most is don't we already have a conflict of interest in what this task force is forming
in that You already have everybody on there is totally pro pool people.
14:40:35 Now I'm not an anti pool person. I am an anti
14:40:42 Big pool complex with pickle ball courts and birthday rooms and all the extra stuff. And I think that we are, if you look at it logically, we are over 25% of the way in money
spent already and climbing in what it would have cost to remodel the pole that we have.
14:41:05 And if we can just look at this logically, we can't afford the Taj Mahal of pools.
14:41:14 It just isn't, it's not gonna work, number one, nobody can afford it. Nobody's gonna come.
14:41:22 The people at the pool participating are declining anyway. So you're gonna make this 50 million dollar pool complex.
14:41:29 And it's gonna serve. I'm being silly, but 50 people. You know, that doesn't make a lot of sense.
14:41:36 So we don't want a PFD. This needs to stop before a PFD. If there was a.
14:41:45 Group of people that were looking for private funding your costs go way down there too because you don't have to pay prevailing wage.
14:41:56 There's so many things to look at. And I love the pool. The pool is not the problem.
14:42:01 It's the people who are trying to put out a new pool that are the problem. So if you, and even here this meeting, you have said, oh, we need to find people who are pro pool.
14:42:14 Well, you've got plenty of pro pool people and I don't think you have very many no pool people, but you do have know what you want now, Pool.
14:42:21 Thank you.
14:42:23 Thank you.
14:42:27 Alright. I see Morningstar has raised her hand.
14:42:40 Good afternoon, Morningstar. You'll have to accept promotion. Great. And you can unmute and you have up to 3Â min.
14:42:47 Sorry, I'm, haven't done this process in a while, so thank you.
14:42:52 You're doing great.
14:42:54 I'm with Shelley. I'm glad that the county commissioners are part of this conversation and, you know, I really had wish that you all had been.
14:43:02 The lead on this in the first place because this should not be. A city situation, you know, we have a whole county community here that needs to be served and addressed and.
14:43:14 Yeah, what Shelley said, it's A lot of craziness, a lot of nonsense.
14:43:20 We need more. Viable solutions and Yes, again, what Shelley said like these different groups like okay.
14:43:31 Yeah we need to have more than Yes, people on every one of these boards or groups or task force it seems that A lot of our forces are very well handpicked for people who are
going to agree on a particular issue.
14:43:51 And so we don't end up with a lot of creative thinkers showing up to solve these problems.
14:43:52 And. You know, I hope we will end up with an affordable pool out in the county for everyone and maybe people in poor towns and will start to focus their efforts on realizing
what our pool is for here in Port Townsend.
14:44:08 The pool that's here is not for the hospital to have for free. It's not for the Y.M.C.A. to have for free.
14:44:15 I don't, I'm confused about all the resources we are giving to the Y.M.C.A.
14:44:19 And I think that we need to look at that in a little bit more reasonable fashion. The pool here, yeah, that's great. We need kids to learn how to swim.
14:44:30 We need elders to be able to go in and do their exercise. And beyond that, I don't.
14:44:35 You know, all this fancy stuff that we cannot afford is. Doesn't make any sense to me and the.
14:44:44 The level of division that we've created with in the city, with all of these robust processes of meetings that are packed with people who are already going to say yes are
14:44:59 It's insulting. It's. It's just not good.
14:45:04 We just spent all of the money we had and we didn't accomplish anything. And so I would ask you guys to try to.
14:45:11 Pull in people that are from diverse parts of the community make sure that you have actual local people not people that just live locally that people who have.
14:45:21 Connection to this place and this land and care for this community to be on these. Task force and groups and that they're that their voices are heard as well.
14:45:34 Cause I'm really not sure how this whole thing got so out of hand and that we keep promising people things that we can't deliver on and spending all this money.
14:45:43 So yeah, I hope that you will have. An engagement process that actually engages people who are actually a part of this community and care about people and you know, kind of
look beyond the prize or fantasy.
14:46:00 And that's 3Â min.
14:46:00 Yeah. Thank you very much. I appreciate you.
14:46:04 Thank you.
14:46:07 Alright, so Greg you feel clear about next steps.
14:46:13 I do. I do. Can I respond to the public comment a little bit? You know, any We're as Kate has said many times we're looking for a path that the majority of the county is going
to support if we don't think that we are looking for a path that the majority of the county is going to support if we don't think that we can bring a project forward that will achieve
that.
14:46:35 you know, victory in a vote of the people. Then, then we will, Not do it. You know, we don't want to waste.
14:46:42 We don't want to throw good money after bad. So very low cost investment to try to continue to mature this project that wasn't quite right before and we you know continuing
to work at it is I think in the best interest of the county and I think to the.
14:46:59 To the idea of looking for folks that are supportive of. You know, a pool that can look like a lot of different things.
14:47:06 And you know, we're trying to take the assumptions. Out of it and just work through analysis and if you come in you know, with the idea that just the amount of you pool and
just the, you know, the 50 million dollar pool is the way to go.
14:47:24 And that's, you know, confirmation bias the same way that, that, the only, there's no solution that would work with, with public support.
14:47:34 So we, we need folks that are willing to Dig in and be and analyze and represent their community as we as we just trying to try to figure out what works.
14:47:45 So this is, I believe us being responsive to the concerns of folks like Shelley and Morningstar.
14:47:50 And you know, it's what we're here for. We do it about all sorts of different things, you know, where we do it down in Brennan about the sewer.
14:47:58 There's countless staff hours to go into projects that really that flourish and turn into something and there's countless staff hours that go into things that end up not working.
14:48:07 And both of those Both of those efforts are worthwhile and that's just the job that we do at the at the county and at the city.
14:48:14 So. I do feel clear about the next steps and I will. I look forward to the conversations and I'll.
14:48:23 That's it.
14:48:24 Thank you. Diane, John, anything before we sign off? No, my only comment is just to echo that this will be a lot of work for the folks who are on this committee.
14:48:37 Until there's quite a broad range of topics they're going to be expected to examine and there was a hope that it would move relatively quickly as well.
14:48:43 So it's a real-time commitment to you know to serve on this so I'm hopeful that we'll be able to identify folks who have availability and commitment to it and we'll we'll be
rolling up our sleeves at Jack.
14:48:57 To be as supportive as we can to the new task force. Thank you. Thanks, Diane.
14:49:03 Mr. Morrow?
14:49:05 Thanks, Commissioner. I was just gonna say, you know, sometimes, we don't get right.
14:49:10 And when we went through our process. At the city and, you know, really did quite a lot of public engagement robustly with regionalism in mind.
14:49:17 It's a good reminder that sometimes not everyone's along for the ride and so being able to go back and fill in the blanks where maybe, along for the ride.
14:49:30 And so being able to go back and fill in the blanks where maybe, there was not information or maybe we didn't bring people to the information, with enough Gusto is part of the
spirit of this and I wouldn't say good money after bad because I don't think that the only bad money is the you know today having to approve another boiler replacement because of you
know failure this Sunday and
14:49:41 having the team there. I mean, it's hemorrhaging. The current pool is haemorrhaging resources pretty badly.
14:49:45 So I appreciate the spirit of the commission wanting to get this right and the coalition, and steering group trying to go back and, you know, fill in some things that we didn't
fully, vet before and that's what this is about.
14:50:00 Great. Anything? Nope. It seems like a good path forward to me.
14:50:06 Great. Okay. Thank you all for your work. See you in a couple weeks on this topic.
14:50:14 There's a hand raised that you close pull up. Yeah, sorry. Done with public comment.
14:50:19 Alright.
14:50:24 Do we have anything else on the agenda? Not in nothing in particular. Commissioners, Acting Administrator, anything we want to cover this afternoon?
14:50:39 I'd love to go work on this right now. Well, it's fresh in my mind.
14:50:43 So I don't have anything else that's pressing but. Happy to address anything that you guys have.
14:50:48 I don't have anything. Me neither. Looks like we make it out of here early.
14:50:54 Alright, for that. Going once. Going twice. Okay.
14:51:01 Everyone, we are adjourned. See you next Monday. Thanks, Monty.
14:51:04 Have a good week.
10:04:33 From Chambers to Hosts and panelists:
FYI - Monte wanted a few minutes to honor Public Works Staff - he will prepare a consent agenda item for a letter thanking them by next week's agenda
13:48:26 From Chambers to Josh Peters(Direct Message):
I sent you an email re: PC appointment
14:05:23 From Chambers to Kate Dean(Direct Message):
I see John Mauro is online, let me know if I need to bring him - or others - over during the next discussion.
14:07:44 From Kate Dean to Chambers(Direct Message):
Ok, will do.
14:30:05 From Chambers to Greg Brotherton(Direct Message):
If the Steering Committee appointed the task force members, those meetings would not be subject to OPMA I believe - but they could always share the zoom link with the public for those
meetings...
14:30:34 From Greg Brotherton to Chambers(Direct Message):
that would have negative political impacts, I think.
14:30:39 From Chambers to Greg Brotherton(Direct Message):
Right
14:32:13 From Chambers to Hosts and panelists:
We will still need to advertise, but social media is great to get the word out
14:33:09 From Chambers to Hosts and panelists:
We could have a publication ready for consent on March 11th, publication on the 13th and 20th, and discussion and action on March 25th.
14:35:20 From Chambers to Hosts and panelists:
I put a placeholder of March 25th at 1:30 p.m. for discussion and potential action re: aquatic task force membership
14:36:16 From Chambers to Hosts and panelists:
Scope of work can be held March 11th at 2:30 p.m.
14:37:32 From Chambers to Hosts and panelists:
Scratch that. Conversation would need to happen before noon for publication deadline. We are packed the morning of the 11th.
14:49:54 From Chambers to Kate Dean(Direct Message):
Someone has their hand raised