HomeMy WebLinkAboutchat09:47:25 From Philip Hunsucker-Chief Civil DPA (he/his) to Chambers(Direct Message) : Please demote me.
09:00:36 Hey, is everybody ready? Okay, so I'm gonna be. Good morning, everyone. How this meeting of the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners to order on June 24.th
09:00:51 Had a nice weekend. Any changes to the agenda today? I just have a letter from 4 in support of the, grant application that the peninsula.
09:01:02 Trails coalition is submitting. For the hubates you point to walk on at some point. Okay.
09:01:13 Since we already funded that at least a degree, it seems pretty easy to support. And. Nothing.
09:01:22 We have any changes in our calendar coming up anytime soon. We're not affected by the July 4th holiday next week.
09:01:28 Maybe we see our County connections is preempted this week. This place like Friday's at the port.
09:01:40 Throughout the summer, I think it's like 5 Fridays, right? Yeah, it's funny, it's not, it's affecting mine.
09:01:51 No, 8 2 is you right now. You're preempted on 8 2. Alright, let's start with public comments.
09:02:01 So we welcome public here in the room with us or on line to join us. 3Â min to address the board.
09:02:08 I love them to comment on any issue you like. So we'll start in the room here.
09:02:16 Love to talk about his 300 million dollars. Or I would love to talk about the McKinney Vento Act of 1987 and the 70.
09:02:32 Properties that are not available. For a low income and homeless people as they should be to. The health zone but today i have something more urgent and that is harassment within
the shelter.
09:02:51 And when I say harassment within the shelter, I do not mean, cause I have a pretty thick skin.
09:03:00 If somebody calls me that or ugly. I mean when somebody friends to kill me. Or since I should be aborted.
09:03:12 Or says. I, you know, I've talked to this man who constantly stares at the door that we all sleep in.
09:03:25 And then you can escalate this voice as loud as he can. And then she starts to initiate conversation when no conversation has been initiated with him.
09:03:38 And it seems that it started when. He was in the middle of attacking. Hey, person and I stepped in so instead of saying something like don't try and do me, he said, don't try
and game me.
09:03:59 When he was talking to the skate person. And I stepped into the conversation and said, that's not okay.
09:04:07 So the next time. We were in the dining room and I had my back turn to the TV and I was talking to this person.
09:04:17 And I was clear we were as far away as you can get from each other and my back was turned.
09:04:24 And something came on the TV about The anchors talking about the Supreme Court and reproductive rights.
09:04:32 And he started yelling that it was all the lesbians and gay's faults and and it's he didn't believe in reproductive Brexit.
09:04:44 No one was talking to him. I wasn't even listening to the TV. I have my back turn to it.
09:04:49 And so. there's this hospital environment that's been created. I told the monitor I would file a complaint today, but I want you to know that in the shelter when you have women
in one room and the other guys you cannot get away from each other.
09:05:11 And if you try and you know if you need the dining room you need your food then it's gonna be thrown away and there's no escape from the dining room as our snow escape when
I open my door and he's standing there on staring at the door of where everyone's sleeping.
09:05:32 And I do not initiate conversation with them. And so, I'm wondering what to do about you know, a hostile environment being created for women and gay people.
09:05:46 Who are being targeted in the shelter. And I'm wondering about people outside the shelter who won't come in because they know this behavior exists.
09:05:57 Okay. We'll respond after all of the as usual. So anyone in the Zoom room, that public comment, please hit raise hand at the bottom of your screen.
09:06:10 You'll need to accept the motion panelists and then on mute and you'll have up to 3Â min.
09:06:16 Any other Mr. Chair, he's going to bring him over in 11. 0, he's coming.
09:06:27 Good morning, Mr.
09:06:33 Good morning commissioners. Staff, one at all. I have. 2 things to talk about this morning.
09:06:42 One of which is maybe a little trivial. On your consent agenda you've got a couple of items that are regarding closures of county roads and so forth.
09:06:54 Necessary for removal and or repair of of fish passages. It's fine. What my question is All of these notices refer to milepost markers.
09:07:07 And, you know, I have looked. You're in there and everywhere. I can't find a map of the county roads that indicates where these mouthpost markers are.
09:07:17 Is there such a map? Could your GIS folks maybe prepare one and post it somewhere on your on your website?
09:07:25 It would be really helpful to understand these things. I mean, yes, a lot of the time we know we're you know the road name intersects with road some other road name that's fine.
09:07:33 But just to be clear, it would be really helpful to to have that kind of information available. Quickly accessible.
09:07:43 Anyway, maybe a trivial request, but if you could pass that message along to GIS, that would be appreciated.
09:07:49 The second question I have for you or comment, I guess, is regarding the agreement, the proposed agreement with the Fair Board that's on your consent agenda.
09:07:58 A little surprised that it's on your consent agenda for approval as sort of a 1st touch but That's, that's the way you want to do it.
09:08:09 My question about the agreement as proposed as I as far as I can read it I'm wondering is it sufficient to handle the issues that came up at the fairgrounds in the past with
respect to the homeless folks that were in camp there.
09:08:27 There was a tremendous amount of discrimination. Her harassment and abuse that those those folks there suffered. And yes, you know, things have been relocated now to other sites.
09:08:41 But, yeah, that won't be the last time that something like this occurs. So. You know, I just would like to know if you all feel assured.
09:08:51 That the agreement as it stands. Is sufficient to protect the the members of the public. Who want to use the camping facilities there at the fairgrounds in the future.
09:09:03 So if you could, at least address that and, as I say, state with confidence that that the agreement is is good enough.
09:09:12 That would be appreciated. That's all. Thank you.
09:09:17 Thank you, Mr. Trish. We'll do.
09:09:20 Morning, John Hamilton.
09:09:29 We cannot hear you, John.
09:09:36 It's like you're unmuted.
09:09:41 Let's see, John's getting that figured out. Oh. There you are. We can see, but we still can't hear you.
09:09:52 Okay. Get there.
09:09:58 Now hit unmute.
09:10:00 There we go. I got out on muted. So see, but we still can't hear you.
09:10:09 Can you hear me now?
09:10:09 Yeah, although, I wonder if you could go to the, your web page that's called AV capture, where you see our agenda and then.
09:10:19 Hits. Yeah.
09:10:16 Hi. Yeah. Got it on nearly It's in. Can you hear me now?
09:10:29 No.
09:10:31 Turn off your AV capture.
09:10:34 Yeah.
09:10:37 On the video it'll
09:10:42 No.
09:10:51 Yeah. Very good.
09:10:39 Okay. Go ahead. And, I can't. Fix on the video.
09:10:59 The tab on your internet, John, you should have one tab where you're watching them. Oh.
09:11:02 Okay, Again, It's on the internet, John. You should have one tab where you were watching.
09:11:21 See you guys. No. Yeah.
09:11:27 Hey, John. Good to meet you. See if you can get that AB capture turned off. It's on, on your web page.
09:11:38 Not on Zoom. I'm at your internet browser. If you click on the video, it'll give you the opportunity to pause that.
09:11:46 And then you would wanna have that background noise. So maybe raise your hand again when you get that quieted, okay?
09:11:53 Thank you. Alright, anyone else like to provide public comment? Please hit raise hand.
09:12:06 Alright, don't see anyone for now. We, John and Joe, will get that straightened out, but any responses in the meantime?
09:12:14 I can start. Thank you for the public comment and look forward to more. To Maggie, you know, of course we want to prevent any harassment.
09:12:25 There was a note that that you had sent out about some food issues over the weekend and those were, you know, taken care of.
09:12:33 And I think that we can we can work on this too. It's Always an issue of, you know.
09:12:37 Barriers, you want it to be safe and supportive for everyone that's there and you want to create the barriers as low as possible.
09:12:44 To not prevent other people even if they do have some. Some, issues that cause them to be not so nice sometimes.
09:12:53 So, it's hard for me to parse. A particular complaint we're not of course operational but I will I will forward that on to You know, base side and only cap as we go through
it and the goal is always to create a.
09:13:06 A harmonious space and that's Often challenging and I, you know, I'm sorry, but we want do want to create a safe space.
09:13:14 So thank you for letting us know to Mr. I think the contract with the fairgrounds, you know, I wouldn't mind a little conversation about it too, but we have talked about this
quantity as well before and I think it's okay.
09:13:27 And I think it's kind of neither here nor there in regards to the campground and the encampment that happened there in the past and I think.
09:13:34 Different rules making sure that 14 days is the maximum stay and these things to prevent. Residency which is what you know the issue was before and also there's other places
to go in it so I'm confident because we have built up the Slack in our system that, that won't be used again, but you know people are always free to camp there and to try during the
you know
09:14:02 it's But I do believe the rules of the campground itself and also the other opportunities we've worked to afford.
09:14:11 Dan housed our sufficient and this contract isn't the document to control that really anymore. But Curious, I know,'re a lot closer.
09:14:22 Yeah, and John, we will get back to you in a minute. Yeah, this part of the reason the operating agreement took so long to get to the finish line here is.
09:14:31 Because we were trying to be very mindful of. The potential pitfalls and issues that have come up previously and this agreement was very much written with the the issues we
have with the homeless encampment there in mind.
09:14:50 And while it doesn't talk about it explicitly, there are some safeguards in there, for example.
09:14:56 The county administrator will be required to approve all policies and there's a significant list of policies that the fair association is required to complete.
09:15:09 We are redoing the camping policy right now. And that really specifically outlines the tendency issue which is the concern there it is shockingly difficult to enforce that.
09:15:27 And so, you know, we keep. With every. Every time a situation comes up in the campground it brings up a whole other like.
09:15:35 Oh right, so if somebody isn't paying that is one pathway. And you know, there's this, you know.
09:15:45 Is there, do you trespass them? Do you evict? Like, because it's a really complicated legal framework.
09:15:53 He is representing the county's interest not the fair associations interest so but just please know everyone that the.
09:16:04 A lot of, much of the work that we've been struggling with at the campground.
09:16:09 Excuse me, the fairgrounds the last year has been very much with the that issue in mind and because it was so hard on everybody, you know, it was just a really problematic situation
for the neighbors for the pair association for folks who were living there presumably so it's Yeah, doing everything we can to kind of safeguard that space for the use that it was intended
for and to recognize that it is a campground.
09:16:34 For example, we have family displaced by fire. In a local apartment complex and they were looking for a month long camping site while their apartment complex and they were looking
for a month long camping site while their apartment gets rehabbed.
09:16:49 Keptground is not fully used right now and so you know so at our meeting last week we were having a discussion of should we have some sort of emergency policy where we do let
folks like that, you know, this is a great use of public space for housing and family there.
09:17:04 Yeah. And so how do you do that with again with the safeguards in place to not create tenancy.
09:17:09 So very much. Top of mind in in this work, even though it's not spelled out explicitly in the operating agreement.
09:17:18 We, to look again it. Remember this. Mark or legal somebody is required to review the bylaws the fair association also.
09:17:31 As an operating agreement so You see more of that there. And then it's really in the policies that markets to.
09:17:35 Approve. Thank you. And there's a lot of them. We're gonna have a stack of work.
09:17:42 Others even more. More coming. Yes, Yeah, so you'll you have some homework at some point.
09:17:55 Should go and go back to public comments. Sure. John and Jill, were you able to get that?
09:18:02 I believe so.
09:18:06 There, can you hear me?
09:18:01 Straightened out, let's try again. Great, good job. Okay, yeah, sounds good.
09:18:09 Alright, why I'm here today is, as you may know, I'm, you know, I'm a chapter service officer for the disabled.
09:18:17 American veterans and I help. Other veterans in our community file for, you know, benefits with the VA.
09:18:26 I've been housed out of the Port Townsend Community Center. And, little over a month ago, building was closed down because they were doing some repairs.
09:18:36 Or remodeling in there. And when I was told it was going to be, about a month, 3 to 4 weeks is going to be the time frame.
09:18:47 And so I said, okay, I can, just, you know, put off, my work on that for that timeframe But there is at this point we're a month into this and there's no.
09:19:00 No clear date of when that work is going to be done and I believe it's being managed by Parks and Recreation.
09:19:06 And I was just wondering if you folks knew anything about the timeframe for completion of the community center.
09:19:14 Not only my service, out of that building goes on, but there's a lot of other services for community.
09:19:21 That are on hold like the lunch for you know other people some other services and of course you know other organizations like use that building to conduct meetings and you know
communicate with the public, of Jefferson County.
09:19:37 So, my concern is that the place has been closed for a month and, there is a lot of the public that uses that for, you know, Good productive things and would like to know when
that would be reopening so what I can get back to helping veterans.
09:19:58 And other people can take care of the other needs of the senior community and others within Jefferson County. Thank you.
09:20:08 Thank you, John. Anyone else like to provide public comments?
09:20:14 Please hit raise hand.
09:20:21 Julia?
09:20:29 Good morning, Julia.
09:20:35 Good morning. I'm just interested in when you're going to discuss the Bayside Shelter that's on your agenda and there's no specific time.
09:20:44 You have a specific time?
09:20:48 I was telling Judy after the letters of the word. Let's see. Okay. Yeah, seems like we'll wrap up with.
09:20:58 Public comments. Maybe we could do the. 2 letters of support. And then, and then have the briefing.
09:21:11 I'm sorry, then have the. Sorry, the base. I discuss discussion.
09:21:17 Thank you. Good 9 45 hearing, right? Yeah. Yeah.
09:21:22 How much time do you think? That's good. So it might take 20Â min. I can do the letters and support later if we need to.
09:21:31 I mean. Although there are people can do that as in now. I mean, we, we can do it. We can try.
09:21:45 Okay, so let's, we'll finish And then, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, We can wrap up by 9 45 and now with that to.
09:21:55 Just a few minutes, Julia. Stay put.
09:21:59 Thanks.
09:22:00 Okay. Alright, I'm gonna go ahead and close public comments and any other comments, responses. I mean I would just add to Maggie's, discrimination and harassment should not
be allowed in the shelter and but it seems like more of an operating.
09:22:18 Procedure then something the commissioners can really. We can advocate for there to be a safe environment for everyone staying in the shelter and I'm sure we are.
09:22:29 So. But it sounds like there are some issues. It's just heartbreaking to hear.
09:22:35 People having to be. . With that
09:22:43 The fair agreement, I mean, that bringing up the COVID-19 encampments. Feels like, wasn't it wasn't that we're in it weren't we in the state of emergency at that moment when
that.
09:22:56 I wasn't I was not a commissioner on the fair. Rounds became a campground so yes, there was a, yeah, the governor, right? Fiction moratorium is specific.
09:23:12 Right. So I mean, we never know what external factors are gonna. Be in play. Can't really crystal ball the future but Seems like the way that the agreement is now drafted.
09:23:24 Allows for consideration of. Future emergencies should they arise. By the county administrator. And consultation with whichever.
09:23:35 The OCC member is the lead for fairgrounds. So district one. Anyway, but I hear that concerned.
09:23:44 But I don't have a crystal ball.
09:23:51 In response to Mr. Terrace's comments about my outpost markers, I share your frustration.
09:23:57 You know you see watch dot reports all of their road closures by mild post and you can find those.
09:24:05 With some effort, but, you know, I tend to check that kind of thing before driving to Olympia, say if there's a big storm or, and I, agree it's frustrating.
09:24:18 So, easy ask of public works if one exists and if not how difficult would it be to.
09:24:26 Have one made. I am. I feel, you know, having lived on, I looked at my post 2.7 on center road and off with my 7.2 on center road.
09:24:40 I'm sorry. I know those mile. I got murders really well.
09:24:43 But yeah, other, especially. What on one totally confounds me because of course it's all, you know, basically a loop around the pencil.
09:24:53 So you can't even like. Absolutely. I, yeah, I'm coming up or down.
09:24:59 So I get these, you know, post 200 and something. Like, I have no idea.
09:25:04 Alright, anything. Oh, contact going north by the way. Okay. No, but north from Olympia or north from the coast.
09:25:17 Mark, do a response to Mr. Hamilton on timeline for community center? I just email.
09:25:24 I don't know the plan to completion day, but hopefully I'm sure they all have an answer.
09:25:31 Great. So that was for replacing flooring through most of the upstairs.
09:25:39 So stay tuned, Mr. Hamilton. If you drop off, we can. Drop you an email to an estimate on the timeline.
09:25:47 Thank you. For all of your service to this in this community.
09:25:53 Anything else? No, no, thanks. Alright. Let's take a look at consent agenda, please.
09:26:08 Hello.
09:26:12 I mean, we're saying, I mean, let's call it option.
09:26:17 Is there anything we haven't talked about regarding the fairgrounds agreement that you wanna cover or I don't think so.
09:26:26 I mean, this will just say, you know, this is. It's very different agreement than we had previously with Fair Association.
09:26:34 Gives a lot more oversight. You know, the county has, the ability to step in and basically not approve of policy if we feel like something is headed in their own direction and
use those policies to say, no, that's not going to work.
09:26:51 $100,000 in funding. But the cell tower stuff, right? Is that like 40,000?
09:27:02 We're still negotiating. 25. Yeah. The last version was around 25.
09:27:10 Then originally you were thinking about splitting that, some of it, they get it all now. Obvious why the county would, but.
09:27:25 I appreciate it. And yeah, and there's just a lot of the food. And, there to keep that place functional.
09:27:39 So. We have the increased support. I think it's great sporting the The shelter as well, the ammo shelter.
09:27:49 Yeah, glad to see those. Capital improvements being done. I'm happy to move that we approve the consent agenda for June 24, th 2024.
09:27:57 Any further discussion? Okay. Bye. Alright, so we're gonna skip ahead a little bit on the agenda and, skip to face it, has a budget proposal for operating shelter.
09:28:14 Great. Yeah, we've been keeping track. Let me grab the last. Yeah, so we're working on a PSA or Philip, I should say, has worked all weekend, I believe.
09:28:29 Yeah, please bring Philip over and bring Judy over in case they If you have anything to add and I'll share.
09:28:35 The, latest version, so. If you look to the budget, the agenda request, it was still pretty challenging and above that.
09:28:45 That to everyone's credit. We just kept working through it last week and I think got to a number that we feel pretty comfortable.
09:28:53 Bringing forward so I'll share my screen and just walk through it at a high level really quickly. The, American Legion last week approved the MOU and the lease.
09:29:05 And I'll be able to pick up signed copies tomorrow. We have a cam scheduled with the city Wednesday morning.
09:29:15 Right down to the wire. Yeah, no problem. It's all working fine. Just like we planned.
09:29:21 And you can see that. So this is the, I believe the latest copy. And you could see that the, the budget now is broken out.
09:29:30 Maybe people start over here actually.
09:29:32 I can get to the controls here. Maybe. Alright. That's it.
09:29:43 6 21, wait is that? Sorry. 6 22. Okay, so right now we are at one full time shelter manager that also includes, kind of support, a little bit of supportive service work.
09:29:58 And 3. Full-time equivalent positions of Shelter monitors, plane or hosts, I think they're called now.
09:30:06 22 act, 22 an hour and the others at a yearly rates. Right now we're still talking about 4 pm to 8 am operations, 3 65 with 2 hosts.
09:30:19 And then as far as the budget, I mean the salaries. Flexibility on the staffing is really what allowed us to get down there that cause they're by far the biggest cost.
09:30:29 So the latest thing that happened over the weekend is, you know, they said really it's important that they don't compromise other programs going on.
09:30:36 IS. That they really they didn't want it to be a reimbursement contract but to you know pay forward the contracted amount with base out each month And that's not a problem.
09:30:47 So we're Operating with that so you can see the salaries there and benefits and then their liability insurance.
09:30:56 Meals is left in there that we still coast is dissolving but a lot of the same people are still really interested.
09:31:04 We hope not to hit that 7,500. There's gonna be reports so even though we're paying.
09:31:08 Paying stuff forward. You know, it's for money that's actually used. So that some of these budget items might go down if meals are able to be handled mostly in kind through
faith based and community based support, furnishings and equipment.
09:31:27 There's some beds and stuff that need to be replaced and supplies. And so that's besides total plus their 10%.
09:31:33 Indirect costs. So basically a $300,000 contract with Bayside. And then the county covers or you know big repairs and maintenance.
09:31:43 If something happens to the water system again or you know. As well as utilities, rents and, we're covered under risk pool.
09:31:53 So there's no additional insurance, but we are writing both the American Legion and Coast is additionally insured on our basis.
09:32:03 So total cost to the county, 46,000. So right now we're at 3 45 4 37.
09:32:10 And. And that's, you know, pretty much it. You've got, stop sharing now.
09:32:19 So that's down from what was on in our packet last week. Week so when it was up at that number.
09:32:30 I do talk to the Jefferson Healthcare. And there. They feel it's a little bit outside of their area like that because right now at 350,000 it's still and please Judy or Phil.
09:32:46 Sweet up if I'm just characterized anything. We're still 125,000 ish.
09:32:51 We don't know how much is coming back from coast and stuff. Over so we're talking general fund dollars or possibly looking to partners and I was gonna look at both the city
one meeting at 4 o'clock today with our new housing fund board member O and row to kind of update that, make that request and the hospital.
09:33:09 I think they see more. Real health impacts in the fall and winter month. So, you know, depending on how the budget goes and we're bad enough to get it started.
09:33:20 Good. They might support some, you know, come the winter. But, not asked city yet, not able to get a meeting last week.
09:33:30 And but this is this budget is with us putting money in to maintain the operations. And then, that's an additional 100 50.
09:33:52 Right, so we have we have right around 225. Coming into it. And that includes the 100,000 that was already approved.
09:34:00 Or 2025. And so we have a hundred 25. This year and a hundred 1,000 for 2025.
09:34:15 And
09:34:08 So the 225 is from, on board. And is that important? And we've been talking about that being the total for that.
09:34:19 So concern over what's not going to get funded with this getting funded, right? This is committing us to putting 125,000 from general funds a hundred $1,000.
09:34:39 At least and then the idea is that there would be. They could apply as any other project could apply but
09:34:48 Unlikely.
09:34:48 So we do have, so sorry to interrupt, we do have grant money that has come in from Department of Commerce for the reduction.
09:34:56 And recording fees, which impact this fund. And so we do have that money coming in this year. And so it was that's like 26,000 and under 86,000.
09:35:10 So, so far I haven't seen the contract for the 86, but they were working on it.
09:35:16 I think.
09:35:14 Last week so hope to see that soon Well, actually, I think Mark, you signed it while you were on vacation.
09:35:21 So I think we're set to go with that.
09:35:23 There could be additional funds coming back. From Holy Cap for anything that's unspent from the.
09:35:30 From the grant that they got from the Housing Plan board. And then you know this is not touching the $1590 that can be used this is just we're just in the reporting dollars
of the recording you know kind of the grant funds too because of the deficiency of the reporting funds. Okay.
09:35:46 So we've, already signed the MOU and the, police. We have the PSA that is maybe not quite right until this afternoon.
09:35:56 I don't know, Philip, I know he's been making some quick adjustments, but, I think that maybe we could bring a copy of that afterlife.
09:36:04 No, purchase and sale, purchase and sale, like a contract, the funding contract with Bayside basically how we're going to.
09:36:13 Give them the money basically. So that, you know, just the same as the contract with any of the RFPs for housing fund board, except it's not a reimbursement fund.
09:36:23 That this one will be ahead of the time. And Philip, do you want to? It's that this one will be ahead of the time.
09:36:31 And, Phillip, do you want to say professional services agreement? Oh, maybe professional. Yeah, Philip, are you with us?
09:36:37 Yeah, I am. Sorry, don't have my camera up. I wasn't expecting to be talking this early, but.
09:36:42 Oh, sorry, yes.
09:36:43 But it's okay.
09:36:47 Yeah, I mean, we've been working on the funding agreement. Sort of over the weekend with comments from base side and I've tried to adjust it based on them.
09:36:59 Judy had some helpful comments this morning. So I think further adjustment is needed. Haven't heard back from Bayside since 8 PM.
09:37:13 Okay.
09:37:12 Or when was it 3 o'clock yesterday? After I sent the last. Or before I sent the last version out.
09:37:20 But it looks like, We should be able to come to agreement with them. Hopefully today.
09:37:30 I made the point. To them to Bayside and I think it's also important to say it here.
09:37:38 We have a CUP meeting with the city on Wednesday. And we, we don't necessarily have to have the funding agreement signed by Wednesday, but But the county is already signed.
09:37:52 And the Schultz and the Legion said it will sign. The leaves and the MOU. And, and then I don't think we have signatures from.
09:38:05 Base side yet, although they agreed to all the language. So we have to have all that together. On those documents for the CUP meeting on Wednesday.
09:38:16 And then this is the last. Commissioner meeting of the month so which means unless you want to do a special, a special session.
09:38:28 We really need to get approval on the funding. Document. Today. Or you could delegate it if it's for close enough you could delegate it to someone.
09:38:39 Greg is probably the logical choice for that to get it to get the final signed. Document together, but it's There's a lot of moving pieces that, we're trying to, and we're,
basically about to bring them all together, I think.
09:38:56 But the, you know, we're really under. A lot of pressure to get this done.
09:39:01 We have basically 4 business days to finish everything.
09:39:08 And Philip has been working heroically on it. I would say the last.
09:39:08 And Phil. The last
09:39:14 Work, Philip.
09:39:14 Well, well, I have been working on it, but not full time. I have other stuff too that's actually crazy right now, but it's alright.
09:39:25 It's important.
09:39:26 Yeah. Well, it seems like what do you guys need a motion or? Well, we're gonna bring as Phil keeps working on it the PSA.
09:39:34 We really need to get signed today. And I think it'll be done. We'll try to bring it back after lunch and just walk it on.
09:39:42 But that's kind of where we are. We'll try to bring it back after lunch and just walk it on.
09:39:44 But that's kinda where we are. I wasn't sure if I'd be, yeah, I guess at this point it feels like this is as good as it's gonna get so I'm pretty comfortable that everyone's
doing their best to the to compromise.
09:39:54 So.
09:39:54 There is a number in the budget that Greg put up that we're at the yellow or orange block.
09:40:02 I can't remember what color it was. There's a 0 there for for the cost of the risk pool coverage.
09:40:11 Hmm.
09:40:10 I'm not sure that's actually gonna be a 0 because I pick the processes. We have the we have to list the building with the risk pool and then they add it to our list of properties.
09:40:21 I don't imagine that the cost is going to be the additional cost of that is going to be a lot.
09:40:26 But there might be some small additional cost for that. I, we just haven't, I don't think we talked to the risk pool about what that is yet.
09:40:35 So there is a little bit of uncertainty there. And that one area.
09:40:40 And we also don't have indirect costs for our own work, but there will be administration obviously there already has been and to process the contracts and the and the monthly
rent payments and all that so or kind of eating the ICR as well.
09:40:57 I'm not too concerned about that. You know, I think that's the value of having a capacity of the county here to support this effort.
09:41:06 But, I'm curious how you talked about. Should they arise? I'm super county is just on the hook for.
09:41:18 Frontloading each month paying them that and for you know like if there's a catastrophic water store or something, the county is on the hook for that.
09:41:30 Overages with food, you know, we keep working with the shelter coalition and try to. Build capacity, you know, for in kind support as well as volunteer support and Yeah, with
overages there, I think we just have to redouble our efforts or.
09:41:47 Okay, yeah, you know, I mean, ultimately I think that's I mean, we'll have the PSA.
09:41:53 After lunch, right? Is that Philip after lunch? Is that an appropriate time, do you think?
09:41:58 Yeah, I think I could have it by then, no problem.
09:42:03 Whether we're gonna have it in a form that we know Bayside will agree to by lunch, that's, I'm not so sure about that.
09:42:10 And their board meeting is Wednesday evening. So we're trying to get pressure to get the at least the MOU and I guess they don't have to sign the lease just the MOU signed by
Wednesday morning.
09:42:18 Yeah.
09:42:20 So that's it. Quite a big bridge for them too since they don't. Meet as a whole board until Wednesday.
09:42:27 Right. Just thinking things like, you know, over time or to become, you know, kind of a regular occurrence like that could be a really significant increase.
09:42:42 That I'm just curious how we're kind of, are we planning for some of those?
09:42:48 There's a little bit of contingency, but we wipe most of the contingency out and are kind of putting it into the indirect costs.
09:42:59 I mean, I have a great amount of trust for. Bayside and just what I'm worried about is putting us on the hook.
09:43:08 Or unforeseen. Yeah, in an organization that we don't have any. Management.
09:43:16 We're kind of writing a blank check for that we don't have any. Any hand in and so I just like, You know, gonna put some garbage on that.
09:43:30 I don't know, I mean, we'll, you'll have the PSA that you can look at.
09:43:33 I think that Usually what would have to happen inside would have to adjust the staffing model before over time costs push to that of the contract.
09:43:43 Hey Philip, do you have? Or a nuance to answer to Kate's question or.
09:43:46 Well, the way the contract is currently written is there will be a maximum amount that we pay them over the course of a year.
09:43:56 Whether they will agree to that. I mean, we have, we, you know, there was, they had a question about one of the sections in the contract that has that in it.
09:44:06 And so you know, based on the current numbers. And the budget for base. That's gonna be about $300,000.
09:44:17 So, so if we put that employees that would be a hedge against things like over time and so forth.
09:44:28 So we would have some certainty. Kind of a cap number. For what we pay Bayside. And I think the the county numbers in the budget that Greg put up.
09:44:39 You know, the, I talked a little bit about the premium and what we didn't, you know, that, uncertainty there.
09:44:49 I think that's. Probably gonna be a small number but but the maintenance and repairs number, you don't know.
09:44:56 For sure what that number is going to be. So it could be less, could be more than what's in the in the proposed budget, but I.
09:45:04 I don't know how you can, you know. How you can get it. Much more certain than it is.
09:45:12 Or.
09:45:12 No, I'm satisfied. I'm satisfied with the not to exceed. And that, you know, and then should unforeseen circumstances come up.
09:45:26 So I'm happy to negotiate and I approach this very much with good faith but just think we want to be cautious while writing the very instrument that you know provides us that
oversight.
09:45:34 I'm sorry to cut it short. We do have a hearing at 9 45 and it seems like we're at a good stopping point unless there's anything else Judy or Philip you wanna.
09:45:42 We'll have public comment, I guess, when we consider the PSA in the afternoon, probably.
09:45:49 I'm super grateful that base side is willing to collaborate in this way. This was our, you know, kind of dream outcome of this whole.
09:45:57 Issue and Just done a lot of gratitude for them. Yeah. And so Philip and Carolyn, maybe you could work on setting a time that we come back this afternoon.
09:46:10 Yeah.
09:46:13 I'm, I'm gonna be up, to talk about the MOU. Settlement on on the case against DSHS this afternoon.
09:46:28 Okay.
09:46:26 So maybe we could. That doesn't have a specific time, but. But maybe we could do it around.
09:46:33 Do those things together. Or roughly together.
09:46:33 Okay. 2 30. Yeah. Okay, so, maybe we'll plan to do base side agreement around 2 30 and then.
09:46:42 The DSHS settlement. After? Okay, just for the public's benefit. It sounds like we've been coming back.
09:46:50 Alright, thank you everyone. And, That's who are tuned in for the day Bob Letter.
09:47:01 We're gonna. Do that after we do this hearing. Thank you. Thank you.
09:47:06 Alright, so we have a hearing on applications for conservation future spending in 2024. So welcome, Tammy.
09:47:15 I'll hand it back to you. Good morning. I'm here with, Hello, Jefferson County Public Health, staff member, as well as 3, conservation, public health staff member, Chess, as
well as 3, conservation, teachers, funds, this, as well as 3, conservation teachers, funds, and oversight committee members.
09:47:29 I'm back then, Cheryl Lowe and also now, for you 3 draft resolutions, that would award.
09:47:41 Whatever level of funding you would like to each of or any of the projects that target wildlife reserve us loaf forest edition.
09:47:52 And different forest. The amount of money available this for this cycle is 280,000 which isn't enough to fund all 3 I'm back on June 3, rd Joanne Concello.
09:48:04 The committee chair made the committee's presentation. The recommendations from the committee which were to fully fund the Well, then preserved us of addition, 150,000.
09:48:18 That's a piece of both opposition and then she user. 130,000. Double pairing farm, which is the conservation, to include up to 12,000 and.
09:48:29 And unfortunately, although all 3 projects were considered worthy of funding, different forest, just didn't score as well.
09:48:37 And they spend it amount of time working over the the applications and the scoring. See, removing funding from any other person.
09:48:55 $0 can you explain the rationale behind that? That's been my routine over the years just in case you were to.
09:49:04 Choose to make an award as other than what the committee would recommend. So these regulations reflect the committee to make an award as other than what the committee would
recommend.
09:49:14 So these regulations reflect the community. They do support the project. And yeah, I don't think the committee would recommend.
09:49:16 So these regulations reflect and committee. We would only pass that resolution if we were to decide not to take the recommendation.
09:49:21 Well, you could do it right now. Just got $0 in it. Yeah, is there any concern, Caroline, that, I have not been able to get part water part 2.
09:49:37 Oh, and so I've such a large packet. It's very large. So I tried a few different ways to scan it in and around Friday afternoon I decided to put the pathway up above on the
Ways of Be, documents so they are all there.
09:49:53 I mean, and the public had a chance to view. And even if they couldn't click on him, I did.
09:49:55 Outline in detail how to get to laser piece to view those documents. Great. And the draftress, which is worth visible.
09:50:05 Yeah, 3 in the map came through, but yeah.
09:50:08 Alright, any, and we, of course, the brief about us 2 weeks ago, June 3, rd 3 weeks ago.
09:50:19 So any questions before we move into the public hearing?
09:50:24 There you go. Well briefed, I feel. Thanks. Alright.
09:50:30 So the commissioners welcome a testimony from the public, this issue. I'm opening the public hearing on the draft resolutions before us.
09:50:40 For 2024. Anyone in the public would like to provide comments, and either in the room or on Zoom, please raise your hands.
09:50:49 You'll have up to 2Â min. And to address only the issue before us. So let's start in the physical room with anyone in the room, and to address only the, issue before us.
09:51:02 So let's start in the physical room with anyone in the room like to provide Yeah, and in a hearing it is required that you see your name.
09:51:11 Okay.
09:51:15 Morning, my name is Sarah Spake and I reside at 1 1 7 flicker world.
09:51:23 I know it's a tough process. The committee goes through having to make decisions. I don't question the committee's recommendation.
09:51:34 I truly wish that there was more funding because, it puts us in an awkward situation.
09:51:40 With humble berry farm in particular we have the other match lined up. But, we may have to ask more of them because we want, yeah, full funding for that project.
09:51:51 Dear Foot Forest is a property that has been in the safe, for a long time and we think that they'll be patient and wait until next year.
09:52:02 But I say all this just in that I think it would be once again. Right, the county would consider revisiting the concept of.
09:52:11 Increasing the amount of conservation features funds that we collect. And I think it's a bigger taxing question.
09:52:20 Amount of tax that the county for us but I think it's time to take a look at all of that.
09:52:27 Yeah. Thank you. Do you remember the last time I looked at that? Is she?
09:52:36 And as you know.
09:52:41 Thanks. Thank you.
09:52:44 No, no.
09:52:48 Alright, let's go to the online Zoom room. Good morning.
09:52:56 Good morning. I can get my video going. I am here. Morning, I just, like to second Sarah's.
09:53:05 Request to revisit funding levels. There's usually more project good projects and there is funding. Also I just like to thank the especially thank the conservation.
09:53:18 Futures volunteers the committee. Who work on these evaluating these proposals and the staff Tammy and this and the staff.
09:53:26 It's I apply for a lot of grants and this is why the most rigorous grant processes. There was a there was a field trip with everybody.
09:53:37 There was a oral presentation. There's a pretty extensive written presentation. And so it's really a good process and appreciate that and appreciate the funding.
09:53:47 Support for the project so thank you
09:53:51 Thank you. Anyone else in the room or on Zoom would like to provide testimony? So please. Lase hands.
09:54:03 Alright, and we'll close. The hearing. Some direct resolutions before us to consider.
09:54:13 Yeah, I am.
09:54:17 1st of all, I would I would love to. Workshop the funding level discussion. Because I think I was involved in one of those discussions 15 years ago.
09:54:28 And just would like to kind of know the state of. Where a funny level is now, what the maximum cap is and what other counties have other counties approach conservation features.
09:54:37 So I think to be taking it. Oh look at it would be. Worthwhile and There are 3 resolutions in our packet and I'm happy to make a motion.
09:54:50 So, a little more deliberation. Good. Oh yeah, happy, happy to.
09:54:57 Have the broader conversation. Of course, about the levy rate and everything. I think the it's it's good to Yeah, to look at that all the time.
09:55:06 You know, I'm not sure. Yeah, I won't presume what my answer would be to that conversation, but I welcome the conversation.
09:55:13 And these projects, you know, I appreciate. As we heard from Peter, you know, the rigor that this process, goes through.
09:55:21 So I, yeah, rarely am I, I, so just like, yep, that looks, that looks like, the homework has been done and all the eyes have been dotted in the T's have been crossed and I'm
confident with these recommendations.
09:55:32 Great. Let's say likewise. I would not question the work of the committee who have been really.
09:55:41 Much more deeply involved and committed to this complex process. So. Thank you for your work on that.
09:55:48 It does look like hard decisions to make. And, I love going through the minutes too actually like they really walking through the deliberations.
09:55:58 Yeah, it is very deliberate. Yes. The, I do know that the funding question, which is a little bit outside of the scope of the hearing.
09:56:09 So should go too far into it. But, Just that it is it is complicated and there's often a discussion at the state level of a legislative action which would make it a little bit
easier to increase that or take it out of our 5 90 limits.
09:56:23 Been successful, I believe. So there's still some. Variables, I think that would.
09:56:31 Complicate that. It's not as easy as us just choosing to that. Let me, I would love to know the full context.
09:56:43 All of that. As well. Every few years she fills me in and then I forget between conversation.
09:56:51 So I would need a primer as well. Please. Okay, thank you. Alright.
09:56:59 I think now we're ready to consider a motion. Oh, I'm happy to make a motion that we adopt a resolution dedicating conservation futures funds.
09:57:08 To the TARBU wildlife preserve and the amount of a hundred 50,000. Further described as West Slope Forest Addition Project.
09:57:16 As authorized by and in accordance with Jefferson County code section 3 dot 0 8 dot 0 3 0.
09:57:23 Parentheses 7 to provide a system. Of public open spaces. Any further discussion? All those in favor, please say I.
09:57:34 Hi. Motion curious.
09:57:39 Someone else wanna do the other one or do you want me to just? Oh, you're doing great.
09:57:43 Okay. Okay, I'm happy to. Know that we approve a second resolution dedicating conservation future funds and the partial amount requested for this project of a hundred 30,000.
09:57:56 To the humbleberry farm project is authorized by an in accordance with Jefferson County code section 3 dot 0 8 dot 0 3 0 parentheses 7 to provide a system of public open spaces.
09:58:09 I will second. All those in favor say aye. Bye. Motion is proved.
09:58:21 Oh, Completed for the year. Thanks for all the work, Tammy. No, it's not.
09:58:33 You have to say once again, I repeat myself, but it's just going to be, Let me take them.
09:58:40 And to the committee, of course, and sponsors. It is a team effort and it's great to provide this place that we have a decision to say, and we can get to work in many projects.
09:58:52 And in fact, the Schmidt Farm, delivering the check over to the another one.
09:58:59 Excellent. What funding cycle is that? Hey, it's been in the work so long. And Sarah and Heidi and I were working on that together.
09:59:14 The team. Okay. Alright, thanks so much. Thanks for all your work.
09:59:22 Hmm.
09:59:25 All right, let's go. Yeah, update. How was the meeting last week? The meeting was good.
09:59:40 There were the room that's a beautiful community center. By the way, I had never been there.
09:59:47 So. And, it was packed. And we heard from. I was counting I wrote them all down but I don't have my list here but 50 people in support of the expansion, the 3rd expansion of
the Deba Bay natural area, only a couple of people voicing.
10:00:10 Comments, questions, concerns. You know, with the funding to the junior taxing districts is always a concern that we hear and it's 1 that we share.
10:00:20 And. Yeah, I don't generally just a lot of support. Yeah.
10:00:29 And. I think that Let me just regroup, reground myself and where we're at.
10:00:41 So. We can put a map in our. No letter? No, not our agenda request.
10:00:52 What you're seeing, about the extra. West what is called West So.
10:01:01 Okay.
10:01:05 So a majority of the of the.
10:01:12 The acres being proposed under this expansion are our legacy for us or older forests that Well, not a majority, but.
10:01:19 Wish I was Peter was commenting on this right now. I know he's listening. Much of it is older for us and, a lot of the ground being proposed for addition is to the south to
the south and east of the existing boundary.
10:01:41 And DNR included all of the acres that we. Recommended for expansion when we wrote our letter last year to them.
10:01:50 About a year ago. But the they took out the West, the 160 acres of West. No, I think so.
10:02:06 Let's see, Bob mentioned in the last day about, sorry, West, so part of that is an existing marble, site and we really feel that keeping those acres and, site and we really
feel that keeping those acres in the boundary expansion proposal would be beneficial.
10:02:19 Cause it would allow us to use the trust land transfer process. To compensate the county engineer taxing district for acres that are currently encumbered by a federally listed
species and it just feels like That feels like low hanging fruit in terms of.
10:02:35 Getting some revenue coming to the junior taxi districts from some of these acres. So we would like to see that.
10:02:42 Portion of the proposal re included in the boundary expansion but otherwise they were in agreement and took all of our recommendations that we sent them last year.
10:02:53 As part of this boundary expansion.
10:02:57 And that was almost a year ago. We sent that letter.
10:03:04 You're gonna need that. You know, gently asking about that 160 acres again, but general support.
10:03:13 I think it strikes the right tone. Great. Does this, include, I appreciate it, that you continue to bring up access for recreation. Yeah.
10:03:27 Would this expansion include any of the I know there's the 2 different designations one includes any of the I know there's the 2 different designations one includes natural
resource conservation area allows for 2 different designations.
10:03:38 One includes natural resource conservation area allows for low impact, natural resource conservation area allows for low impact recreation and natural resource conservation
area allows for low impact recreation and natural reserve is more of a locked up preserve kind of off the limits area.
10:03:45 The preserved portion of the Deba Bay natural area and natural area are the spits in the in the bay and some of the adjoining uplands.
10:03:54 The natural resource conservation areas, the majority of the acreage. Around Kaba Bay on the west and east slopes of Deba Bay.
10:04:03 So. I made in my comments at the hearing. I said that I would love to see DNR work on a management plan for the natural resource conservation area.
10:04:15 They finally do have a natural area. Staff in our region, which we haven't had for.
10:04:26 Yeah, we just met him last week, right? Over 15 years, I believe it's been since we had an, manager. I don't know.
10:04:27 Sarah might remember more than me, but it's been a long time. So that Yeah. Capacity in the region will allow us to do things like develop management plans and They're were
a couple of comments asking for recreation from specific portions of the preserve or the conservation area.
10:04:42 So I think that makes sense. Does it make sense to add that into this letter or do you think?
10:04:53 Yeah, I agree. I think it's important, but this is It's different people, different departments even that would be doing that, right?
10:05:02 Well, DNR, the natural area's program would do the management. I don't remember.
10:05:14 This is going to conservation and recreation division.
10:05:21 You've both been closer to this like test here. Impulse. We could take public comment.
10:05:32 Like we have time for that. Yeah. Alright, we will.
10:05:39 Internet, but we will have public comment here so if anyone would like to some signal in the room and I'm not really sand on the screen and we'll just do just every one or 2Â min.
10:05:54 IA lot to get through this morning. So. Go ahead, Peter.
10:05:59 Hi.
10:06:02 Yeah, I had I had a little presentation, but I think you. I don't think I need to do it.
10:06:08 And you guys have a big day, so. I just wanna say thank you all for, this support. Feels kinda like a marathon.
10:06:16 This whole process has been amazing amount of. Work and interaction with DNR with at 1st the carbon proposal and then finally this boundary expansion, you know.
10:06:26 Years after we had initially proposed it and So it's just a real great milestone here. I'm really happy that the West Day Bob is in there.
10:06:37 I think There's about 40 acres and that's about Older forest is about 20,000 an acre.
10:06:46 Roughly. So that's 800,000 and then add the land value. It's about a million dollars.
10:06:54 Of land value that the county could recoup. On land that they're not getting a dime for now.
10:06:59 And it'll be great for me or that habitat, to connect that connectivity to the existing natural area.
10:07:07 Boundary.
10:07:07 Peter, do you have do you have the map that you could show these guys? Cause I did not include it in the agenda packet.
10:07:11 Well, yeah, you sure I can do that if I can get this thing to work. Let me see if I can.
10:07:18 So they could glance at it.
10:07:24 Yeah. Yeah.
10:07:20 So is that share screen? Here. Yeah, this works. Sometimes this works.
10:07:30 Yeah.
10:07:34 Yeah.
10:07:42 Maybe just show us the map.
10:07:44 Yeah, let's see if I can get the map up here.
10:07:47 There we go.
10:07:49 And span that out a little bit. Okay. So this is the map Kevin just made and.
10:07:59 Kevin Hitchcock, amazing GIS person you guys have. You're really lucky to have him up.
10:08:04 Yeah.
10:08:05 So anyway, the red areas are legacy for us. The purple slash areas are globally imperiled for us.
10:08:13 Both of those are. The oldest most valuable forest in the natural area and there's about 900 acres if you come of overall coverage.
10:08:27 Of that type of forest. And so at, at.
10:08:32 At 20,000 an acre for the older forest. That's about 18 million dollars. Of encumbered land.
10:08:40 And. That's in there.
10:08:43 Think it's important to point out that the dashed line, the dash green line in the map are the expansion areas.
10:08:49 Yeah, so there's the West Day, Bob, and then DNR added these on their own.
10:08:54 And then these are the areas that were originally proposed.
10:09:01 And so The other thing is, what Kevin was working on, they didn't get the layer in time.
10:09:08 Was this map, which is really interesting. You see the pink areas. On the map. Those are called VR H deferred or variable retention harvest deferred.
10:09:20 In other words, they are areas that DNR has identified as off the timber, off the timber harvest schedule.
10:09:29 Basically encumbered lands. They're wetlands. If you look at the north area.
10:09:37 There's 2 big pink stripes going through. Those are big ravines, wetland ravines where DNR doesn't have any timber harvest.
10:09:44 Planned. So the point of this is in addition to the globally rare for us. And The legacy for us, there's additional wetlands, riparian areas, steep slopes that DNR under their
strict rules are not going to harvest.
10:10:01 So it's quite a bit of encumbered land.
10:10:01 And that's. That's maybe where I miss stated that the majority of these lands are off the books, you know, when I was saying the majority of these lands are.
10:10:10 Legacy for us, not necessarily just legacy for us, but not harvestable for us. Under Dn's management policies.
10:10:17 So getting these out of the timber revenue base would be beneficial for the junior taxing districts, including Jefferson County ourselves.
10:10:26 In terms of revenue coming to the county and I know DNR is working actively right now to identify replacement lands in East Jefferson County.
10:10:34 No, no, no junior tech, seen districts that spoke against the work at the coil were there?
10:10:43 No, they had comments about revenue coming to the junior taxing districts that there wasn't. You know, both throated opposition.
10:10:49 That I heard. I don't, do you don't remember any Peter?
10:10:57 Yeah.
10:10:51 No, they they wanted you know they were concerned about the financials and. One person asked for a financial analysis.
10:11:01 And I think This kind of points out that if they're anywhere close, there's going to be 20 or 30 million dollar.
10:11:09 Net gain if they can get replacement lands in the same junior taxing district. And even if they can't even if they half the lands are in the same junior taxing district, they
still would come out ahead in terms of.
10:11:22 Forest value, harvestable timber value.
10:11:26 Thanks, Peter. I just think this point can't be made enough because it's. You know, the bottom line for all of us.
10:11:32 So. And, I don't know if this is a question for hide or for Peter, but, I.
10:11:39 This is the funding for this is coming from Climate Commitment Act. Is that previously, earned revenue from sales.
10:11:49 Or if the climate commitment acts were to be repealed this November would funding be stopped in its tracks. It would probably just be, it would take a lot longer and it would
be multiple tranches and transfer by any after biennia for the next the rest of our lives.
10:12:07 Thanks.
10:12:07 But I've already been working half my life. And some of this stuff, so I got another half a life.
10:12:10 Yeah, there's a They climb the commitment act money is secured though that stuff for this transfer.
10:12:18 The initial, you know, 80 million that came in for the climate commitment act. Replacement lands. Yeah.
10:12:25 So it's from prior, previous sales of. That's okay. The last, These were budgeted amounts.
10:12:37 Okay. Alright.
10:12:39 I think will be additional trust land transfers. Yes.
10:12:45 Thank you. Peter.
10:12:46 Yeah. Alright, thank you.
10:12:49 Any other public comments?
10:12:53 Alright, Sarah. Thursday. On one side, just a quick comment, the dear foot forest, but actually nearly connect with the Okay.
10:13:08 Okay, cool. I didn't know that.
10:13:15 Alright, we have a letter here before us. Consider I'll move to approve, assign the.
10:13:25 The letter towards D and R as presented. A second. Alright, any further discussion? Thanks for your work on the site. Thank you.
10:13:35 All those in favor say aye. Alright, Right.
10:13:43 Should we do the other? And is that, share my screen to share that. Jeff, President of the Peninsula Trails Coalition Board contacted me on Friday about this opportunity.
10:14:02 Let me do it Thursday. But anyway, I said. Get me a draft letter. So let's see.
10:14:09 Share screen. Letter. Share, here we go.
10:14:18 So this is a letter to the T-mobile hometown grants foundation. I think it was a $50,000 letter.
10:14:28 Or $50,000 grand that they're pursuing.
10:14:33 But it just, this letter is just a letter support for their pursuit of that grant. Re asserting that we, you know, supported the whole base viewpoint with a $20,000 ARPa allocation
and supported.
10:14:50 The expansion of the Olympic discoveries trail in so many ways. So, No. If you have any specific questions other than.
10:15:00 Hmm.
10:15:07 Passes.
10:15:13 I mean as we all know the our Larry Scott Trail and our Olympic discovery trail now sit nested within larger regional trail.
10:15:25 Development efforts, including the He just on the Pacific portion of the. Trail and then the now the 3,700 mile great American rail trail.
10:15:36 So this would be part of that trail, part of those regional trails. When completed. Hmm.
10:15:45 Can you go back to the top again?
10:15:47 And the, viewpoint will sit overlooking Discovery Bay. A great place to see all the restoration work that's been done.
10:16:05 You know how what the funding gap is currently on the?
10:16:12 Significant. Progress towards belief. I'm glad to see them going after other sources of funding and you know, doubling down and getting that.
10:16:23 Component of the trail completed.
10:16:28 Okay. No issues with this. So yeah, take public comment. Right, since we did not have this on our agenda, we will open it up for public comment.
10:16:42 Does anyone have any comment they like to share regarding this letter of support?
10:16:49 T. Mobile So raise hand and zoom. Let me know here in the room.
10:17:00 Right, I don't see any. That's a close public comment. I'm happy to support this in real big trail supporters and having spent the last 3 days on the.
10:17:14 Yeah, Galloping goose. So, you know, just seeing the benefit of a regional trail like that is just packed and you know, seeing the benefit of a regional trail like that is just
packed and you know, we visited every brewery, like that. I'm just seeing the benefit of a regional trail like that.
10:17:34 It's just packed and, you know, we visited every bre Yeah, and it was really fun too, just traveling back and forth on the Blackball Ferry to and from Victoria.
10:17:41 You know, so going over is all people going to do the Gallup and Goose coming back, everybody was going to do some portion of the little discovery trail.
10:17:52 To be able to compare notes and give recommendations on where to stay and you know, and this is already an existing industry and, you know, and this is already an existing industry
and we have to keep supporting development particularly in the More challenging.
10:18:05 Yeah. And, updates, miss him dearly. It was such a great. Advocate to work with.
10:18:15 We share a birthday. It's also exciting that we at our transit board meeting. Approve the kind of the orientation of the trail across the transit property there at 4 Corners.
10:18:28 So I mean, we're, you know, work is happening. Get the trails. South of South of 4 Corners too. Yeah. And to really talk about the.
10:18:37 Development. For the That's why I'd have the parking lot. Yeah, so how that can be such a central piece of infrastructure for the trail users.
10:18:48 So yeah, Alright. No one care to make a motion? I'll move to approve signing this letter of support to for the whole base viewpoint as presented.
10:19:02 All second. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Doing it.
10:19:14 I don't wanna get on my bike. And a little sore. Yes. Alright, we don't have anything.
10:19:29 I'm still 11. Should we take a quick break? We'd be 10Â min come back at 1030.
10:19:35 We'll do some.
11:10:21 First, st but I think having at least some one. Some in the evening in what hadlock would be a good special meeting.
11:10:28 So. I mean, but if they all ended up that way, I wouldn't object. I can just see.
11:10:33 Us being able to really move through things. Faster here and or in an afternoon workshop or something.
11:10:38 But I don't know. I like what you guys are playing out. I'm wondering if, Phil, if there's anything you want to add.
11:10:48 I know. We talked about how to do this. Before today public works and I and I think they've done an outstanding job on a presentation.
11:11:02 I have a question. You know, we recently adopted a new fee schedule and so, schedule for the sewers totally separate and it specifies that it's not subject to the same.
11:11:17 Like, you know, percentage increase, right? I mean, this is a Maybe it would be referenced in that.
11:11:26 Part of the code. So we work. Mostly would still, so to make sure that this code, ties with other sections of our code, including enforcement and the.
11:11:41 Portions of our codes but The sewer. Schedule will essentially stand in. It'd be adopted by.
11:11:55 Resolution. It does have, the escalator built into many, many of those fees.
11:12:02 Which is, 5 back to the counties, the ordinance and when it talks about escalators happening in different fees.
11:12:14 It is tied together that way and what do I want to say about that? I just.
11:12:25 Thank you. Again, it will be a standalone, you know, the schedule, but it's not out of same with the other.
11:12:35 Basically in You know, where possible, the code takes advantage of existing county code. We don't, you know, for example, in my own enforcement section of code, and everything
calls.
11:12:52 It refers back to the . I guess what I would say about portion of the actual ordinance that deals with these talks about how certain fees are.
11:13:08 Structured. But then the fee itself is said in the which is adopted by Resolution. So there is some the language in the ordinance, but not the actual seas themselves.
11:13:25 Can I ask a follow up question on that and this I'm sure as we get into the actual ordinance will be more reveal but I'm just curious how does this our setting fees work with.
11:13:35 A different municipality operating and if I don't know, how do we work with PVD on this code that informs their operations as we move down the years, I guess.
11:13:48 So you're right, they are tied together and we're currently. Working with Kevin Street, talk about how we pay them for their services to operate this system and how he envisions
that working.
11:14:04 You know, the counties the backstop for any. Costs that are in excess of the fees that are collected.
11:14:12 We proposed fees that are in line with industry standard and.
11:14:19 To try to balance affordability. Means of operation. So you're right. We'll have to.
11:14:27 Bring that discussion in parallel so that when The board is looking at adopting fees. They know what that means for the super budget and finance.
11:14:44 Okay.
11:14:37 System. So the 2 discussions are linked together. Okay. Near a utility with a few users.
11:14:49 Entirely self sustaining. And we've talked about the floor, you know, we do. You have a certain amount of cost that you have to spread through your users, and, stuff until you
bring on more and more users.
11:15:04 Sam have been, and others been really, Alan, Payment, talk with their property owners and there's a lot of enthusiasm for.
11:15:13 Getting connected out there.
11:15:18 So without I mean, we could, you know me, I mean, I can go on for any public works topic or love to cover there.
11:15:27 I guess just to, you know, respond to What I heard from Greg and Heidi.
11:15:35 I mean, maybe we start off with a workshop or 2 with the board and then we. You have a special meeting and we.
11:15:42 Backtrack and at least go over those. Subjects that we've already covered in those workshops.
11:15:50 I can see that. Pretty well rather than just starting right off of the special meeting. So that you board essentially gets a chance to.
11:16:03 Awesome, back and forth and dialogue and staff before we're sitting in front of, you know, a special meeting down, or it's the 1st time you've had really do that.
11:16:14 Okay.
11:16:18 Yeah, I just wanted to add that, the way the, way the ordnance is currently written.
11:16:24 The fees are paid to the utility. Specifically says that and and then, the public work standards director are running the utility under its current iteration.
11:16:41 That's because it's a county utility. And so the county will set the fees for the, for the utility if.
11:16:46 The, the PUD would come in and run it. As the operator still accounting.
11:16:56 Utility, then the county would set the fees and presumably there'd be discussions with. The PUD, annual discussions with the PUD if it was the operator just as there would be
for public works on on you know whether there should be changes in in the schedule.
11:17:13 If it becomes a PUD owned utility, then they'll have to do their own fee ordinance.
11:17:20 They are, you know, they're, board is a legislative body and they'll have their own.
11:17:26 Their own ordinance that covers running it, charges, all that stuff.
11:17:32 And what would happen to our code about fees in chapter 13 if there was App. Was I was
11:17:41 Well, if the if the utility were transferred to the PUD and no longer was a county utility chapter 13 would go away.
11:17:52 It would be replaced by the Pud's own code.
11:18:03 Yes, that's exactly right.
11:17:59 So whoever owns the utility. Yeah. Hmm. And at this point.
11:18:10 I think the PEDs express willingness. Even a desire to operate it but you know, not own it.
11:18:20 But I can see that being a discussion. At some point in the future. You guys a lot of things they're telling me to do right now.
11:18:28 Pretty busy with the broadband. 5 of my to my house last week exciting. The world the wire. I mean go look at it.
11:18:38 I can't use it.
11:18:40 And so in the current circumstances, the, public works director has the ability to delegate a bunch of stuff.
11:18:48 But you would need some sort of a an agreement between the county and the PUD if it were to become the operator most likely that would be pick the form of an inner local agreement.
11:19:00 And it would explain how this all worked. Oh, Abbott's the county's. If it remains the county's, utility.
11:19:13 Back to that kind of outreach process and timeline, Monte, like your idea of having a couple workshops.
11:19:20 With us just so we have the ability to, you know, daylight concerns or ask for clarification before it goes to the public.
11:19:28 Obviously those are in public meetings. I know we have at least one member of the public with us today who's eager to see a draft of the ordinance.
11:19:36 So that's probably what it would become publicly available is when we start workshoppping it.
11:19:40 Do you agree?
11:19:42 We could. Put it on our website at any point. But, perhaps. Our, waiting until we started workshop.
11:19:58 Whatever you'd like to see.
11:20:02 Let's see. And then, We could share because we've got, you know, risk, our legal, and all the feedback and but the title work too, Yeah.
11:20:23 And it looks like here July. Starting workshops and that's like next week. Yeah. That's what I was saying.
11:20:31 I mean, I'm not saying what works out next week, but where it's imminent.
11:20:33 So I think this proposed. Roadmap as you call this. I think that's a good way to go and we agree and I have us take the 1st look at it before we take it to the public.
11:20:51 You know, there's always the concern that doing stuff in the summer, you know, people are just paying less attention and they're on vacation and, yeah, but then we do it in
the winter and they say it's too dark to drive in the evening and like, I don't know if there's any way around it, but, maybe just staggering.
11:21:10 Who goes on vacation? You need a vacation. So. Yeah, maybe just being sure that there's.
11:21:24 A number of touch points for the public. Just give, we get the feedback no matter what time of year we do it.
11:21:32 Yeah, I agree that. I mean, summer's tough and what that certainly wasn't intentional.
11:21:38 It's just, it's taken. Yeah. Stuff out there under construction and to manage instruction and then this has been a process to get to this point.
11:21:50 And happen. Just get into the hell. But I think that and it's important to get that.
11:21:57 Code is dotted. This year and perhaps preferably. I don't need December 31.st I mean, you know, this fall would be a good goal.
11:22:09 Because it's a, bill, right? I mean, it's, it's happening and there has been a ton of outreach.
11:22:15 The people who are directly. Impacted by phase one, There's been a number of those meetings.
11:22:27 Sam, and, and, the, A ton of them. But There are still gonna be questions about what the code says.
11:22:41 There'll be questions for people outside of the. Sewer boundary but you are in the urban growth area.
11:22:48 And, So anyway, I think just. We gotta, we gotta get on. Maybe.
11:22:57 I'm just thinking that there might be we good to coordinate with DCD too. I don't know if they're planning to do plan outreach at the same time but you know, just there's a
way to.
11:23:10 I don't know, inviting those isn't really realistic, but maybe, you know, gathering comments that would be more appropriate for the count plan to share with DCD or something
just you know the the public might be confused.
11:23:23 By these 2 separate efforts going on at the same time, so just something to be mindful of. Communicate that.
11:23:32 Often. Yes, early in often. Any other feedback? No, sounds great.
11:23:41 Looking forward to it. Looking forward to, you know. Our turn to dig into this too and can't wait to read through this so really appreciate a little work.
11:23:49 So. Sounds like we should move ahead and schedule at least 1st workshop with you in July. Go over.
11:24:00 Caroline's ready to, policy. I think that's probably the most. Everyone putting board.
11:24:11 You know, fees that go along with those connections.
11:24:18 We want to take that again is the need of the ordinance.
11:24:24 But yeah, we can over on schedule. When I think Carolyn is ready, And then depending on which community center will be available.
11:24:42 Perfect. Yeah. We don't meet on the 29.th We're going to be doing a super thing in the morning.
11:24:53 Mr. Yeah.
11:24:58 That works. That mean he won't be here in the afternoon? I'll be here. We could end the day with pickle ball, process 3.
11:25:11 And this. And so, I, you know, I just can't comment how much of an effort this has been because the super ordinances that we graph from other places.
11:25:32 Don't fit our circumstances and we're starting off with nothing and you know to a whole super. So huge amount of work.
11:25:39 We've been very much in communication with PCP, public health, and then several times with.
11:25:44 Their staff that are on the ground folks that are billing doing that type of thing. So they're really, in touch with us in terms of overdue, or if they've seen drafts of the,
that we've had and any degree support of where we are going.
11:25:59 So. You know, it's a pretty huge effort and I'll just say everybody I've talked to, Almost all the property members out there.
11:26:09 Everybody I talk to saying, hey, I'm in phase one. I want to come in and we've had a lot of people calling from outside phase one to say, are you serving me yet?
11:26:22 And you know, we've been letting them know, you know, this is what we're thinking.
11:26:26 People seem to just be on. That's fine. Let's go. So at least so far we've had, you know, a lot of support for this.
11:26:34 Lot of serious interest from folks. It's the benefit of it taking so long to get to this point that people have had a good long time to get used to the idea.
11:26:48 For for calendaring so on July 15th there was a recognition at 9 30 but there's a 10 o'clock hearing is that too much of a time.
11:26:59 Do you want to do everything at 1030? Okay. It's okay. So is that available?
11:27:05 That is wide open. 1 30 or something. We can tell we put it on the 1 30. Okay.
11:27:19 92? Sure. Okay. Yeah, and I'm just, I'm curious how possible is it going to be to, the, connections from the.
11:27:33 Charges like they Go hand in hand, you know, just thinking about. Yeah, I'm just, where the public spent today was to kind of get this kind of feedback.
11:27:50 So. Yeah, I mean, we could probably, I think our goal or presentation also, and I talked about this would I mean, yeah, we'll go through the ordinance, but.
11:28:04 I think we'll try and provide examples, maps, tables so you can see what it means to typical property owners and.
11:28:18 Use the So when it says a person with this kind of situation must connect or how does that compare to like.
11:28:29 This kind of property and all that kind of property. Helpful and more interesting. Can I give you one to include?
11:28:42 So a question I've got from a couple of my neighbors. Is, you know, their lots are large enough to be once the sewers and to be.
11:28:52 2 lots, you know, the because they want me this much area for a drain field and so If their house is connected.
11:29:00 Already. What's the process for connecting the other lot? Is it just like vacant land? Yeah, okay.
11:29:08 But that would be a good scenario to run because there's a number of those instances. In the phase one boundary.
11:29:17 You have to do it before you have to get your. Have you guys already got the contracts? Is that something that would still be adjustable now?
11:29:25 Am I misunderstanding the question? No, if you're if your lot is large enough to accommodate.
11:29:30 2, 2, and you want to get in on the deal while again, it's good. And while, is painful.
11:29:39 What's the process to have a second hook up on that property? Could you do it before you subdivide your property?
11:29:43 Right. Did you do it before? Have those discussions. There's a section of code that deals with 80 years which isn't exactly what you're talking about but Bye.
11:29:55 Sam wrote that down. That's just the question I've actually gotten. That's an interesting career.
11:30:02 Well, and in general I was gonna say like I will be looking at this with an eye towards the future zoning that will be unlocked.
11:30:15 And you know we have our The UGA setting, which you know we're moving towards with an intent.
11:30:23 Once we're completed with the project to look at that again. And, so just. I don't know if that's
11:30:34 I'm not sure what the question is, but like I will be looking for. Are we?
11:30:40 Righting this with. You know, the next. Zoning map in mind, not just the current one.
11:30:53 Enabling, enabling density. Yeah, is this is it responsive to the future development patterns that we helped to see there.
11:30:58 Yeah, go ahead.
11:30:59 The answer will be no.
11:31:01 Yeah.
11:31:02 And, and the reason is it's that those changes are already planned for the comp plan amendment coming at the this year what you don't wanna do is try to change this something
that would be considered a development agreement, a development reg now.
11:31:22 Right.
11:31:22 Before this before the the sewer comes in, otherwise it's subject to challenge. And if you You don't want to get caught up in another challenge.
11:31:35 Before we have the sewer. The sewer in. So, so it's just a timing question.
11:31:42 Those are those. Things are being dealt with. In, in the planning part for the amendments to title 18.
11:31:51 And I just wanna. Also say that last year at the board. Amanda title 18 to allow for a forward looking application.
11:32:05 To be hooked up to the. To the system. I think that partially answers IDs question.
11:32:12 I think we put those things together and you know that it's coming. Soon and not to say we shouldn't have a discussion about how those fit together But, but we don't wanna,
we don't, wanna do that in the sewer ordinance because there's We just don't want an appeal of this.
11:32:31 We want to avoid an appeal of this.
11:32:35 Yeah, I get it. I get that this is not a land use action, which would obviously be going to the planning commission, not us.
11:32:41 So I get that, but I'm just thinking more like, in terms of incentives for hooking up like is there do we talk about affordable housing multi family projects.
11:32:56 You know, just stuff like that, like the things that we know could be coming down the pike that we're not.
11:32:59 And you know go through all this work and then be like oh right but you know how did we plan for X.
11:33:08 Yep, that makes sense.
11:33:08 So, and the sewers.
11:33:13 Designed with, you know. Capacity for future connections in it and You know, we already know about the proposal for habitat do the 120 plus or minus units at the old Airstrip
property and.
11:33:32 Infrastructure is sized accordingly for that. And, you got to meet the Bill Ordens, you know, I mean, it talks about what to do if someone wants, you know, whether they want
to add another house to it or an apartment or multi-family or a duplex or an eighty-U it covers.
11:33:50 Those bases. But Z, just covered the time team. So. There are incentives for people that have existing exceptive tank, field system, which you will hear about.
11:34:13 There are some incentives that are later on. But that just has to do with the super side of it.
11:34:20 So there's some advantages. For instance, I will get in details by system development charges. We're referring some of those for are some incentives for those types of.
11:34:31 Situations that somebody comes in 2 years from now, they may not have to pay any SDC system to charge or the mail and, portion the normal. Go to eventually.
11:34:46 So there's definitely incentive though right now for people to be existing. Settings and that's been a big focus.
11:34:52 You're also. Future incentives and there's certainly incentives in terms of low income types of situations also.
11:34:59 So I think we've, you know, we can go into more detail and we get into this, the, I think that, some of what your questions will be, get into the details.
11:35:15 Yeah, and we've had some of these preliminary conversations in the last couple of years, which, you know, things like.
11:35:17 Like I brought up like, you know, are we prepared for? Egg food processing, you know, which.
11:35:24 Very well could, be an ideal location for it being so close to Chinatown. You know, like of course we have, you know, high.
11:35:32 Hi, you know, so just wanna be like thinking about do we have those? Planning for the components that we hope to see.
11:35:43 This, unlocks
11:35:48 So it sounds like. Connections and fees, the workshop. On both of those items would be our next step.
11:35:56 In July, 15.th Perfect. Sounds great. Yeah, we'll be working even more over time.
11:36:12 And full time for public comment too at that. Yes. So maybe, 2Â h.
11:36:24 Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, what does that say about us that we get this? Example.
11:36:33 Yeah. You wanna walk, walk us through before the meeting started. You guys told us what it was, but I think it's really exciting.
11:36:42 It's, you know.
11:36:42 So. For all of you at home, we are doing a low pressure sewer collection system or conveyance system.
11:36:51 And this is a 3 inch diameter HDPE, hi, Dentally, POLY, and to do our services, I guess I'll back up where the low pressure server system.
11:37:11 And this is another type of welding. This is electro fusion welding for our service connections.
11:37:16 They're all 2 in, so this is the too much connection and electron fusion coupling. To the 3 and sewer.
11:37:24 So the, together, there's. Copper wiring inside of here that welds the connection to the And then, as in a water main, it's poured out in the center.
11:37:44 And there you have a, so it'll either be electroph, or, or, but, the, We already all.
11:37:54 F the fun. Yeah, thank you. Oh, people don't ask me. Oh, yes, I small.
11:38:13 So, for, this system, that was a huge discussion. That was a huge discussion. We were at 8 inches and 10 inches in some places.
11:38:18 And get the sweet spot of a 2 feet per second flow to keep all the goodies going. You know, you want all the slurry keep moving and not sitting.
11:38:29 So you don't get the height diameter to get smaller. Smaller. So, through our own in house design by John Black, then show up to John.
11:38:39 We came up with our height diameter sizes, we range between 2 inch and 6 inch depending on how many connections are on that line and also what else is feeding from upstream
to that system and the intent is that We're not getting the influence from stormwater or groundwater as the gravity sewer system might.
11:39:02 And it keeps, we want to make sure we keep the flow moving because it's So for some reason, I'm sorry.
11:39:07 No, if it for some reason it's not moving, you just. Elucidated the potential of it.
11:39:14 Like the, waste kind of congealing or whatever. Is there a way to flush it out?
11:39:21 There are throughout the system we have cleanouts and multiple different types of cleanouts for the system. And where when we're 1st getting started if there's sections of line
that do not have an existing connection to them, if there are sections of line that do not have an existing connection to them, we've talked about, them off until they are in service.
11:39:41 My question is, do you have 2 of those 3 inch lines? Like one for future use or am I thinking about something else?
11:39:49 Between, for old alcohol plant, we do have a section, a dedicated orange line that is just behind the Kidley Center there on, corner all the way to the treatment plan so we
have a parallel line in that section and we're also looking at clean up parallel line from the influence that is just down from on essence core just down from Cedar Avenue.
11:40:15 So we're thinking that putting another 6 inch line down cedar and to masonic for that.
11:40:21 Our northern. I'm, mentioned if we go to roadie, it gives us more flexibility and options.
11:40:26 The upside to a low pressure collection system is that you can see how fast the contractor moving to put these pipes in.
11:40:34 Before foot deep ditch along the shoulder. 15, foot, ditch in the middle of Chimican Road that's 20 feet wide that takes all summer to do so the cost savings and the.
11:40:46 Even doing it as a huge advantage also the fact that it's you can go uphill down here all sideways, backwards, whatever.
11:40:56 And really, he is working around all the existing utilities that are out there. We just would not.
11:41:06 Be building a sewer if we were trying to do a gravity system also you know very easy for people to hook up.
11:41:14 2 inch flexible line. Doesn't have to slow down. Connect to their building drain. Wind around obstacles and their utilities.
11:41:26 The downside of a pressure collection system is that there's a ground prior pump on every property and you have to power to them.
11:41:33 So but more and more small sewers are going to this kind of system just because that's the only way you can get in and, Again, you know, gravity, so it's just so difficult to
install.
11:41:47 When there's so much existing infrastructure. Around here. I mean, they were putting this line down, Shima, between the shoulder and the road and tell, you know, fiber lines
and stuff and just squeezing that, in going under water lines and things like that.
11:42:04 So, but. Low pressure sewers are small, because you're not. That'd be gross, but there's no solids going down these pipes.
11:42:15 There's no boiler paid each chunks of things. This is it's a it's a water slurry.
11:42:23 If they can make it past the Right. It's pretty small. And so when you think about the water pipes that are serving this whole area.
11:42:31 There's water mains or 6 inches. You might have a 10 inch line, but with water, I'm sure you're also worried about high pressure, fire flow, with sewers, it's low pressure.
11:42:44 We're not trying to develop. Fire flow pressure. So that's why you're gonna see 2 to 6 inch lines the company that perfected this technology.
11:42:54 Granger pumps they said they'd never seen anything bigger than a 6 inch line on any project they've ever done.
11:43:02 No. You. At some point you could have a larger force pain if you were sewing an area that was quite far from the sewer treatment plant but This is how it's done.
11:43:13 The capacity is not unlimited. At some point you do have to run. Additional line.
11:43:22 The good news is that's not hard to. Because again, shallow doesn't have to.
11:43:26 Follow the, but we are making sure that there's a second line. Go to see or avenue that will be available for years and years of expansion up to the north and out towards running
drive as well.
11:43:45 The pressure come from the grinder pumps or is okay a giant vacuum at the Say that because there is such a thing as a back end.
11:43:54 Sewer systems, but they're pretty.com. This was better even for our situation. But the pressure will continue to build as you bring more people more users on line, it'll increase
the pressure.
11:44:13 I could send you the 20 page design guide. That's actually a pretty good summary. But the whole theory is that based on it is your distance from your that you're pumping it.
11:44:27 The static head you're trying to overcome basically your elevation. The number of writer posts that are served in the diameter the pipe and 4 factors that go into how much flow
you can serve but the model Thanks on statistics how many brighter pumps are gonna be kicking on at the same time and what happens when too many of them click on and then some of them
start to drop and then they'll pick and wait for the pressure to drop and then they'll kick in.
11:44:59 So they will always find it. So like a power goes out. And then comes back on. Everyone's gonna try and kick on at the same time.
11:45:06 Well, the ones 1st from the plan are gonna trip out and wait for the ones closer to the plant.
11:45:12 To cycle and then it will move out. This is automatically happens. One system, even though it's a gigantic, a bunch of projects.
11:45:22 Okay, sure. And I think it's 3 times. And I believe it tries 3 times before actually.
11:45:30 Good trips because there's too much pressure and then it'll come back. Wow, so it's a push system.
11:45:35 It's not, it's not, the pressure is not full. Describe your phones can overcome a hundred 85 feet ahead.
11:45:45 That is a combination of elevation. We don't have a lot of that to overtime or addlock except for the.
11:45:51 Distance, which is a measure of your friction in your pipe. There's a certain amount of friction for every foot of pipe.
11:45:58 Our furthest grinder pump is about 6,000 feet from the wastewater treatment plant.
11:46:03 The number again the number of pumps that are running at one time which would create back pressure and Anyway, that means to stay, 185 feet.
11:46:16 Which we're well, those tolerances. So that's 3 inch pipeline back and handle.
11:46:26 80 racket folks, stuff like that. In our you know situation so
11:46:34 Let me start with 3 out of the periphery. Yeah, steps up to 4, and jumps up to 6.
11:46:42 So for instance, it's 3 down by. At the south end of the urban run area by the jail, steps up to 4 by the time you get the because you have 2 threes coming together there and
the time you get to garden for apartments on Christy you're stepping up to a 6 all the way to the plan.
11:47:03 Okay.
11:47:07 Tempted the SVN to fix my cloud, shower drain, but that's okay.
11:47:16 I hope it's fixed before that. Alright, anything else? Great, thank you.
11:47:29 It's like we need to raise view the schedule because Wendy's asking.
11:47:45 So. July 5th on my calendar. I didn't. I have Kate as July 5.th
11:47:54 Wendy said it's on your calendar. Okay. I didn't take it off. I had every KPTV.
11:48:00 Oh, on there and I just forgot to take that one off. And then so Kate's on the 5.th
11:48:08 This week is pre empted. It was Heidi and then the 12th is me.
11:48:11 And the 19th is me, maybe, but it was preempted. And then, 26 with Heidi was preempted and the second of August was preempted.
11:48:23 We haven't, sorted any far, and I think those are all the 4. Friday concert.
11:48:30 So yeah, so I'm, I'm not on that for anything right now. Yeah. Yep.
11:48:35 6, yeah, last week. Yeah. But you did it. I was there.
11:48:40 Okay. Well, that was a busy morning. Did you recess for lunch? Yep, sounds good.
11:48:50 Briefing. You want me to do it now? Well, actually, I guess. I guess we could then we'd have briefings.
11:49:02 It's on the 17.th I was on an airplane back to Jefferson back to the Northwest.
11:49:08 And then the morning of the 18, th I was on the road from Bellevue to return. And then.
11:49:14 You know, that with John, was not available for the And of course, The June 10th holiday. On the 20, th fair amount of activity related to the.
11:49:33 The base side shelter issue and then one on one which off Peters. And then we did a gender review by an email.
11:49:42 So, and then on Friday I departed. Good morning, about 10 o'clock to head to the wake.
11:49:53 To that. Sounds like a nice week.
11:50:02 I know that we order Head to schedule a vacation. I will only wish Australia could happen. That'd be awesome.
11:50:15 Alright. Let's see.
13:30:13 Okay. Good morning.
13:30:20 She's come open. Yep, everyone ready?
13:30:24 Ready as I'm gonna be today for Monday after being the grump in the morning. I came back from lunch with a change attitude.
13:30:32 Love is that now happy friends. Alright, well, we're coming back into session and we have a workshop today with our so I will just maybe start with introductions.
13:30:53 I'm not sure if everybody knows each other or not. I'll start with Stephanie, who's online.
13:30:59 So Stephanie Wright is now our. DC lobbyist, so that she's in Washington state part time and Stephanie and I have.
13:31:06 Known each other for a long time, through association of counties because Stephanie was a council member for how much county and many years, but I should let you introduce yourself,
Stephanie.
13:31:17 Okay.
13:31:16 Oh, thank you. It's a pleasure to be here and I'm so excited to be working with your county and all of you commissioners.
13:31:23 So as Kate mentioned, I do come from the county family. Originally was a city person but at 12 years on the county council in St.
13:31:32 Homish County and then 2 years working for executive Dave Summers as the executive policy officer for Snohomish County.
13:31:40 During that time though very involved with WASSAC, that's how I've interacted so much with Kate, a member of the legislative steering committee and the federal affairs committee
and a past president of WASAC.
13:31:53 So, so for me to be working with counties and in this aspect it's really exciting for me so I appreciate being here with you guys and look forward to working with you all more.
13:32:01 Thanks for joining us. Which Washington are you in?
13:32:04 Actually, neither. I have a few clients in Hawaii, so I'm meeting with them in the next couple days, so I actually just flew into Hawaii.
13:32:16 But if you guys would like to like create a cross pollination sister counties or something I could set that up for you Yeah.
13:32:15 Yeah, stop good. Okay. Mr. Si think we should. Yeah.
13:32:28 Lots of similar issues.
13:32:31 Oh, good. Kelsey, Orna introduce yourself? Certainly. Thank you.
13:32:39 Kelsey Bols, vice president for government relations with strategies. 60 and actually I'll talk a little bit about this in a moment.
13:32:50 But, this is my last week with Strategies. 60 and actually I'll talk a little bit about this in a moment.
13:32:54 But, this is my last week with strategies. 60 and actually I'll talk a little bit about this in the moment. But, this is my last week with Strategies. 3 60.
13:32:57 So I'll be handing over things to Good, Paul. I, was, the an executive vice president of strategies at 3 60 and had served with company for 17 years and was recently brought
back on board.
13:33:12 I had retired a year at 14 months ago and with some of the personnel changes we've had and what not Ron asked me if I would come on back and I was happy to do so.
13:33:23 So if I worked with Jefferson County for most of that time too. We have worked with, Jefferson County, for about 16 years.
13:33:39 It wasn't the entire 17 years. But well, I shouldn't say that. I should say I worked in Jefferson County.
13:33:45 Projects for 16 years. We came on with the county Probably about 13 years ago, but prior to that we had worked with the maritime center and to help them get the final bit of
funding to do the maritime center which is now as long established that prior and then we also worked with Do you get the right class of berry built?
13:34:10 So that there could be, more regular berry service and accounting that say it was trying to build a bigger, that would come fewer times, but we got them to do 2 smaller, which,
That was a promise to Ferris.
13:34:27 That's right. But I worked with Jefferson County on. The maritime center. Alright, and that we work with Kenny on the other pro road was and one of the major projects.
13:34:49 Worked on with the public works that I've been wanting and is team. And that was a long process, but it was a success and.
13:34:59 You know, their, they're now, you know.
13:35:04 Projects in the pipeline that we started those years ago. That work. Also, Resulted in.
13:35:16 Getting additional funding for some of the other roads, smaller amounts of oil city road, this one I remember, but there was a site.
13:35:25 He was able to, get involved because he made all those contacts with the Park Service and the the federal government on their programs.
13:35:38 We, work for the sewer forever. I really wanna, Say the Kate was the commissioner dean was the real driving force.
13:35:51 I'm bringing that all in the end and represent a baron in particular. But it's something we had worked on for a long time and initially, we had gotten a million a million dollars
for the sewer and they You know, we were kind of, yeah, this is really gonna go and then kind of.
13:36:10 Slow down for a while until this last push for, for federal funding that I. Just, you know, through those 2, the hard work along with the commissioner, and provided that was
absolutely critical and you know all the commissioners.
13:36:26 We also worked on, the public infrastructure tax modification and that it was a multi-year project.
13:36:39 Good. Finally, you know, there was some modification passed and while the amount of funding we county received, I'm.
13:36:50 And while the amount of funding we county received on a sewer made it less necessary immediately. That is a tool that is really going to be useful.
13:36:53 I think for Jefferson County, you have that longer. Ability for a Thanks. Thanks, Paul.
13:37:04 I'm not sure, Marketing. Did you had a chance to meet both Kelsey and?
13:37:11 The Mark, calling, Great. You guess about that. I met Paul and Kelsey before I think of the sewer ground, the, the ribbon cutting is where we met.
13:37:28 It's nice to meet Stephanie and you know appreciate. All the partnership that's gone on in the past.
13:37:33 So. Yeah, and district 3 South County and West End. So. Yeah, I'm in the middle district too where the sewer is located so community is very excited about it.
13:37:47 How do you guys in our district too? So, I will hand it off to Kelsey in a minute, but I just want to say what I was kind of hoping to get out of today.
13:37:55 A few things. One is introductions, obviously. Part of that is because I am leaving and I have been the primary contact for all of you.
13:38:02 So really want to ensure that you all have a good working relationship and you know as Paul mentioned we have kind of had these big infrastructure projects that we have been
working on with strategies.
13:38:15 Most are you know, completed or in the works right now. And, So, you know, it's not really obvious kind of what we want our legislative agenda to be.
13:38:27 And I think because we have been focused so much on infrastructure, we don't actually really have a process for coming up with a legislative agenda.
13:38:37 So I think part of my desire is to talk about what's the best way to work with you to come up with our priorities.
13:38:45 And, so that's what I have in mind. I don't know if there's other.
13:38:48 Other things were hoping to get out of it today, but that was my intention. And I think Kelsey, you had some.
13:38:52 Did your presentation or just some thoughts that I'll share and then we can, we'll pass things off to call like those things. So can I just understand where we're at?
13:39:05 Strategies 3 60. I mean, do we have a contract? Yeah, how many more years is the contract and all that stuff.
13:39:09 Yeah. We just signed a new contract. 2 and 3 years.
13:39:24 So, I'll verify that. And I'm hoping this will be conversational and it's I'm hoping this will be conversational and step jump in as you see today. I think that's all right.
13:39:31 I would love to a conversation. Yeah, and that's exactly what we were hoping for, here today as well.
13:39:37 So, you know, last year, last session was the 1st year of kind of a general services contract for, led by the county commissioners rather than for a city department as we've
had in the.
13:39:50 And so, the thing that we things that we really focused on last session were, no more visibility and engagement, making sure that legislators weren't aware that Jefferson County
was represented in Olympia and that we were showing up all over the place as an extension of the work that commissioner Dean has done with you know so we supported partners in a lot
of different ways supported public health partners with their budget
13:40:16 requests, supported some DNR. land transfer budget requests. We spend a lot of time with Wasack both through Commissioner Dean and then again supporting extensions of that work
and then just being present and responsive to request that we got either from our own delegation here or from other legislators who were curious about the various ways that we were
engaging.
13:40:37 So that was kind of a good 1st year into this new model of how you'll be operating in the future.
13:40:44 With changes ahead, Commissioner Dean's departure, my own departure. This is a great time. Kick off that conversation and to talk about what should the development of the legislative
agenda look like.
13:40:55 What do you want your priorities to be? You know, how do we get into a rhythm moving forward to be able to do that in an effective way that's gonna allow Jefferson County to
really.
13:41:06 Effectively engage in Olympia and then bring resources home here to make a difference. So There are a lot of different ways that you can do that and that's not something that
we typically direct but rather advise, provide information.
13:41:23 Here's how some other folks do it and then ultimately it will be up to you to kind of determine what works best.
13:41:30 For your, your organization, but one key component of that is often, conversations with leadership conversations with department heads, you know.
13:41:43 Facilitating a process that's going to bring everybody together so that when all of those folks are engaging with various legislators, that's going to bring everybody together
so that when all of those folks are engaging with various legislators, that when all of those folks are engaging with various legislators, with various legislators, with agencies, staff,
of all folks that they're going to run into on a regular basis, with agency staff, of all folks that they're going to run into on a regular
13:41:56 basis that essentially everybody is singing from the same sheet of music, right? The Jefferson County is clear on.
13:42:00 These are our top. 3 priorities, 5 priorities. These are our top couple of budget priorities, whatever it might be, but that you have some really clear and concise messaging
that's going to help kind of break through the noise in Olympia, help you guys, stand out and your, goals be really, easy for legislators to understand.
13:42:21 To help you with this ultimately, that's what they'll want to do. So all this is to say you see this as the 1st conversation, the last conversation about what a legislative
agenda will look like.
13:42:33 Terms of an overview and I'll turn things over to Paul to continue and
13:42:43 You know. I think all the commissioners are pretty sophisticated in regards to how things work. I would just like to do kind of a flip-fly minute, refresher.
13:43:03 Thank you. Thanks.
13:43:12 And,
13:43:15 Essentially, we can get to. 3rd page which I think and I just kind of wanted to talk about it being effective in Olympia and what it does to do.
13:43:32 Kelsey, you all, alluded to this, but identifying priorities is to be the number one.
13:43:40 That in order to be affected with policy makers, we really got to. Kind of focusing on the priorities and.
13:43:52 Put our messaging behind it and not send mixed messages about what the priorities are. Because policy neighbors in Olympia if they hear different messages, it's a good excuse
not to do anything.
13:44:08 So I just think. That's absolutely, essential. Building relationships you know You're legislators are great and they're here a lot and so those are great but building out beyond
that too.
13:44:25 The rest of the capital budget. The governor's office
13:44:34 People who will can leadership at both caucuses and get it so that they They can get behind these projects and it goes smoothly as the process moves along.
13:44:48 Educating them. White papers you know we used i was reflecting on this on the upper road and sewer and we got worked with the county to create professional.
13:45:04 Documents and whatnot to share with them any data that We can provide with policy makers, empowers our.
13:45:15 Our messaging. You know, on both the upper road and, the sewer, I think that the broader, polishing alliances, you know, people came down to did, to test by.
13:45:33 You know, for instance, for economic development, That makes a huge difference on any priority. Obviously letters and calls, on the server of the years we developed a lot of
letters of support.
13:45:45 That we use. You know, attending legislative session, you know, Go to the county leadership in so much more powerful than I what I've seen in other counties.
13:46:01 Showing up and testifying. You know, regularly keeps the base before the legislature and keeps those issues before the legislature and it's something I really want to complimented
Commissioner Dean.
13:46:15 On you know, I can't manage how many times you were being in Olympia in the last few years and you're always there on all these directions.
13:46:28 Oh, social media and other, public awareness efforts, whether it's in press, you know.
13:46:36 To keep these issues alive. I just kinda wanted to. Go quickly to those as, of what I think in formula for success.
13:46:47 I'm priority is. And so I didn't, I think we do.
13:47:02 And, facilitate process. You know, it doesn't have to be complicated.
13:47:07 To. Administrator. To, have a process that we kind of. Divine top priorities so that we can being, blazer focused in our, you know.
13:47:25 Legislative advocacy that, make a big difference.
13:47:31 Hmm. And part of your list here, things that you all help us with, right? Like you're, you're made being a relationship building on our behalf, right?
13:47:44 That's, yeah, well, online. Under last, page, as well as what we believe.
13:47:53 You know, we are there. We are, constantly touching base with. Both in DC and and out in the state of Washington.
13:48:05 Where We're talking to those opinion leaders and representing the county. And educating, educating those.
13:48:16 Those members in a deeper dive than You can get in a 15Â min meeting. Maybe, you know, which, which we've had, but.
13:48:26 Answering questions and nuances about. From the legislature, you know. Oftentimes, the members of the legislature, there juggling many priorities in the community and having
a clear understanding of all of those priorities that they're hearing not just from Jefferson County but other community members so that
13:48:53 So that we can have a comprehensive understanding of their team members and try to accommodate accommodate them whenever possible.
13:49:05 We, We provide information and expertise as advocates. And Oftentimes, advocacy is very nuanced.
13:49:21 You know, it's not. This is not just what appears in the paper or in.
13:49:26 It's, really kind of understanding what decision makers priorities are and how we can appeal to those those priorities that our own messaging that's part of being strategic.
13:49:44 And, Yeah, we, we work with, coalition members and other advocates to draft legislation.
13:49:55 I mean, it's the need to bring the staff to. To do that and then to you know, really eyes and years.
13:50:04 Before the and what's going on if something. Installing and you know you know, the public infrastructure tax.
13:50:18 I, I think of all the times. You know that bill that had momentum and installed and you know, for years for like 2 lines of text.
13:50:28 That's right. And, but different advocates had to. Priorities and bigger counties that the border counties wanted in on the project complicated.
13:50:42 And building coalition. So. I, in regards to like next steps.
13:50:54 Okay.
13:50:59 You know, I just think too, It's all meeting. Okay, I'm internally at the county could have discussions on, you know, its priorities and then process of.
13:51:18 Talking those through and the legislative. Politics of it. And, and but, you mentioned Eisenhower and, and, and whoever will, will be the new 3rd commissioner.
13:51:34 You know. Working with you directly on.
13:51:40 Your presence if you if you're so I collect it. Just kidding. No, I was tracking a couple of issues pretty closely down there last session.
13:51:59 Thank you, Kelsey, for updating me all the time too. Process like that and we do that very savvy fellow electives and department directors.
13:52:14 And we do have very savvy fellow elected and department directors. A lot of the other elections are pretty strong advocates too.
13:52:19 Okay. Yeah, because I'd be curious like how we would take, you know, so we do meet quarterly.
13:52:26 Now, occasionally even monthly, but with all of our directors and electives and sometimes we talk about legislative priorities, but Mostly it has been us who have.
13:52:36 Kind of chosen and decided. What we move forward with you. But, So yeah, we haven't really thought of doing a formal process countywide or.
13:52:45 Across the organization that been a lot of clarity too. Think we've been working on for a long time.
13:52:54 But like for me it was when I think it was my 1st year as a commissioner and I was talking to Ruth Gordon a lot, our clerk, and she was very active with her state association
and was very actively working on some legislative priorities.
13:53:08 That I knew nothing about and I was like. Feels like we should be a little more coordinated, you know, so that if I'm in Olympia and talking to a legislator that could make
a difference on an issue that she really cares about, then now my aware of it, you know, so that seems like that seemed like a miss to me a little bit.
13:53:27 Okay.
13:53:26 Okay, with county engineers and a few of those other groups are very active and those they do have very robust agendas that you could also look at.
13:53:35 So I don't mean to step on Kelsey or Paul, but when I was with the county.
13:53:41 This is what we often did was try to identify this time of year talking to our department heads and fellow elected.
13:53:50 2 things, what were our struggles? What have you been struggling with? And this is something to ask your department directors and staff.
13:53:55 And then what do we put in our plans that have been kind of sitting there that could be nudged along?
13:54:02 If we had some changes or some funding opportunities this year and kind of going back to those plans and not only seeing what rose to the top but seeing are there some things
that are stuck.
13:54:13 And kind of looking at why. But the other opportunity also might be seeing what reps and the senators in your area are also prioritizing.
13:54:21 Or talking to the governor's office and seeing if there's a theme of this year and if there are some things that also are affecting your county that you could dovetail into
those things.
13:54:31 Like in the past it's been opioids or other things that we've kind of drafted a few of our priorities or struggles behind when we knew that those were going to be the priorities
of the governor's office.
13:54:40 So kind of framing those things for staff and then again picking their brains too if there's something from the solid waste group that is coming up or something they've with
that they're going to be prioritized.
13:54:50 You're out.
13:54:51 Those things could get in on your, I, I underestimated how much solid waste was a big thing when I joined the county.
13:54:58 Yeah.
13:55:00 So that's kind of always my punchline joke. So, but yeah, figuring out what else might be in there, even if it's not your major priority is what's on your agenda or what you're
going to be watching for or what Kelsey and Paul's team will be watching for.
13:55:14 So, and then anything that we put on the state agenda too, there's always those federal opportunities, you know, if you have a big transportation project or public works project,
are there federal opportunities from the infrastructure act or other things while we're looking at that or are these things that we could piggyback on for an earmark request?
13:55:36 But anyway, just to get the ball rolling. Sorry, Kelsey and Paul, I didn't mean to jump in.
13:55:39 That's great. Yeah. So I wonder if, I mean, we do have a few kind of irons in the fire.
13:55:47 I wonder if it'd be helpful to just tell you kind of what we've been working on and this came up.
13:55:51 Through the, appropriations that Okay, I can. Spending applications and then.
13:55:59 Also the, agenda very early this year. So I could kind of talk you through what we applied for there.
13:56:10 I think Nick has at least another idea. Would that be helpful to just hear kind of what the few things that we're kind of thinking about and have been putting out there and
that would be I think that would be initially great just to kind of get a feel for some of the big issues.
13:56:26 For, 2, the federal preparations to community projects or CDS, whichever, ones to, complete funding for an emergency homeless shelter just has permanent support of housing component.
13:56:44 There's a 2.5 million dollar funding gap. And that project was chosen by, both Kilmer and Senator Cantwell.
13:56:53 To advance in their. For their requests, which is great news. Hi, really high priority project. Second was a road project through the Mill road intersection when you drive into
town where the welcome to Port Townsend sign is we have a fairly sophisticated design.
13:57:11 Pre design, that we'd love to see funded there, washed out, is gonna build a compact around about, which we're really concerned is not big enough.
13:57:18 It was a joint project with the city. Then 2 very minor. Submissions to the WASAC legislative process, neither of which were selected for their priorities in part because they're
very minor and this is the kind of thing that'd be great to.
13:57:32 Find out like how what's the best way to work on these small things. And we did it with Piff, but that had a big financial benefit to us.
13:57:41 We have a couple of things. One was to change some wording on a, housing. I don't have in front of me.
13:57:50 Yes, RCW that, links a specific. Funding stream to the existence of a, to a land bank.
13:57:58 So basically it was legislation that was written for, to be able to impose a Live. So recording or excise tax.
13:58:16 Portion removed so that other counties had that authority as well. RCW. 82 dot 46 dot 75.
13:58:25 And I could send you the, right if we did for it. And then also similarly to, clarify the RCW around ferry advisory committees because the.
13:58:37 Attorney general's office has issued an opinion that counties are responsible for ferry advisory committees the way that.
13:58:45 Statute is written was kind of unclear kind of who is responsible now in the day of a couple of records that becomes more important for us to know where the liability sits and
to clarify, update some language there.
13:58:58 So. You know, short of time. We have a closed session.
13:59:05 We're gonna go into soon, but Greg, did you want to mention your even more important than the other.
13:59:13 Wack rules writing that I'm interested in is you know, what's the low hanging fruit?
13:59:18 I mean, it seems like we've been successful with capital requests recently and it feels like with the infrastructure act and chips there's more of that money so I guess I'm
a question for you guys is should we focus on capital projects because there are plenty, you know, I can say Glen Cove, you know phase 2 of the board Adlocks or you need to build a
new transfer station to talk
13:59:39 about, solid waste. It can make many being our representative. Right.
13:59:49 So they'll be mindful. We have a public works department that's like, we can't take out any more.
13:59:55 We have a public works department that's like, we can't take on any more. I mean, the public works department that's like, we can't take that anymore. I mean, that's right.
13:59:57 But I'm just thinking why if it took 20 years to get phase one funded, how long does it take phase 2?
13:59:59 I guess I just, you know, like we have capacity issues and implementing more capital projects right now, but understanding that calendar.
14:00:05 It would be great. But I guess the, and then I'm just curious, the whack about outdoor burning.
14:00:11 I'm not sure if this is something to talk to you guys about, but there was substitutes in the bill, 61 21 that was passed last year.
14:00:19 That allowed flame capped kilns. I'm really interested in our rural areas about that. Applicability and there's a rule writing that's gonna happen in the commercial burning
this year, which is 4 25 and then 4 30 is the outdoor burning and it just seems like it's really critical to get those definitions into both of those chapters of the whack and I don't
really know how
14:00:42 to. How to do that. Let me just do a time check. We do have a 2 to 2 30 closed session scheduled so we could put it off a few minutes but.
14:00:51 Sorry, it sounds like we've opened a can of worms here. Maybe 30 seconds, I'll introduce 20Â min worth of time.
14:01:03 It's my fault I suggested. So I mean, maybe we could just throughout these ideas and then have these discussions.
14:01:05 Later. I do. Is there anything you wanna. I mean, I was really into the, septage capacity, proviso that we were able to get funded last session, but I'm interested in the future
of that work.
14:01:20 So what comes at that fairly small, How do we understand? To really understand the capacity of. Counties in Western Washington to dispose of their waste.
14:01:30 It's gonna be more than a hundred $50,000 question, I think. But I'm very involved in all things DNR.
14:01:38 So natural areas, trust land transfer. The carbon how the carbon funding is being used through DNR and on the carbon enforced management work group I've been on the try I'm
on the trust and transfer I think I'm on 3D in our work groups right now.
14:01:54 So all the specific ask related to. Well, there will be coming out of the work groups, but we don't know what those are yet.
14:02:02 I'd say too in general we've supported the wrap apps. Speaking of solid waste, the ends.
14:02:08 You know ticket support we do you know as a progressive rural county we do like to use our voice to support things that other especially rural counties might not be because
I think both of you know.
14:02:21 So this just to kind of give you a flavor of what we're thinking, but I agree, like coming at it from that other direction of.
14:02:28 Personal governor, not entirely sure, probably guess, just to some of his priorities, but you know, he'll still be shaping his.
14:02:35 Team and priorities as well, right?
14:02:40 So I'm sorry, I should probably wrap us up, ungracefully.
14:02:46 Do you feel like you've gotten some? No, this is great. Think about this, be back in touch to, Some ideas for possible next steps.
14:02:59 I, I don't want to do anything too complicated, but. I think one more session where we can kind of.
14:03:05 And and or just monitor. Your, in real time as you're doing. I mean, right, you know, but we're happy to facilitate it.
14:03:19 If it's a if that would be helpful.
14:03:26 Yeah, okay, maybe that's something we could talk about. Yeah, yeah, good time later this afternoon too.
14:03:34 Just, you know, we wanna think about a process with the whole team or. We feel like we're gonna have enough things that we wanna tackle.
14:03:41 It would be helpful to have. Ledge priorities done by the 1st of December, you know, just so we don't wait until the next session.
14:03:54 In November. So I just, Great. We gotta get it down before Kate's gone too. So.
14:04:05 Well, thank you so much. Thanks for joining. Hmm. Go ahead.
14:04:19 Okay. Okay, hate to see her go, she's done. It has done a great job for all.
14:04:40 Have a good day.
14:04:33 Yeah, I will miss you. Yeah. Thank you. Bye.
14:04:46 Oh!
14:04:51 Alright, sorry Sarah, you know that. Oh well. Everyone's here. Okay. I don't mind.
14:05:04 So we don't just. Don't need to come. All right. We are going into closed session with the County Administrator and Human Resources Director to discuss that portion of a meeting
during which the governing body is planning or adapting the strategy or condition to be taken by the governing body during the course of any collective bargaining, professional negotiations,
or grievance, or mediation proceedings, or reviewing the proposals made
14:05:28 in the negotiations or preceding while in progress, exemption as outlined in the Open Public Meetings, RCW, 42 dot 30 dot 1 40 parentheses 4 for And do you think we need 30Â min
or if we try for 25?
14:05:42 Okay, so we're gonna go from 2 0 5 until 2 30.
14:05:47 We do not anticipate action. No, at the end. Okay, we will be back at 2 30.
14:30:54 Alright, you're coming out of a closed session and will not be taking any action and just as a reminder of our slightly mixed up agenda this afternoon we're gonna talk again
about the funding agreements for Bayside for the emergency shelter and then going to talk about the DSHS settlement.
14:31:15 So, Judy, I don't see. Yes. Yeah.
14:31:26 Yes.
14:31:30 Update on where we are, do you know, Greg did you hear over the lunch break? You know, there was a 1 little section on grant funding added to the PSA.
14:31:41 And I think I'm not sure if anyone from Bayside was able to join us. Let me see.
14:31:54 Correct, do you want me to put it up?
14:31:53 Alright. Okay. Yeah, please.
14:31:57 Okay.
14:32:01 And I guess we should just walk through it because you guys got a draft of this over the weekend. So there's been a few a few small changes.
14:32:11 Gonna make sure I got the right version up here. Yeah.
14:32:19 One quick check here.
14:32:24 Oh crap, that's the wrong document. Sorry.
14:32:28 Yeah, I thought I saw the wrong acronym.
14:32:31 Too many things going on at once. I apologize.
14:32:36 Okay.
14:32:48 Still the wrong document.
14:32:51 Okay.
14:32:51 I'm sorry, give me a second.
14:32:53 I, so.
14:32:56 I hear it, okay.
14:33:06 No.
14:33:01 Sir, I have, I have another like pressing emergency situation going on right now. So.
14:33:10 Hmm.
14:33:12 Okay.
14:33:25 Alright, I think this is the right document now, I apologize. By apologies.
14:33:33 Alright.
14:33:34 Not myself slightly flustered. I can't even talk right. Okay. Yeah.
14:33:41 So, this is the paragraph that's That's been added on grant funding and the question was asked could we also Oh, add donations here.
14:33:55 So, just give you a second a look at it.
14:34:22 Are we adding donations? Well, there are some donations that will certainly get coast as an example is, shutting down, and they're going to donate the balance of a grant that
they got from the Seattle Foundation, I believe, and are talking to Bayside about how Bayside could apply for that, in future years.
14:34:47 So there could be grant funds come in and there could be donations come in and so did we wanna add donations?
14:34:54 Yeah, I think I would that I mentioned it. I thought adding donations would be appropriate. Yeah.
14:35:04 Yeah, you gotta end donations repeatedly throughout the okay. Okay. Second 7, th
14:35:14 Oh, hang on a second.
14:35:19 Okay, so what's needed?
14:35:21 Consent. A second line. Okay.
14:35:32 No.
14:35:37 Just say donations. No, the one. Right above that. CASE.
14:35:46 ADD grant funding received or donations.
14:35:46 Oh. Right. Got it. And donation.
14:35:48 But sentence prior. Parties agree that they shall use Okay. Don't get smary now.
14:35:58 Okay.
14:36:01 I can't type as fast as you guys talk, no matter what.
14:36:04 So that should be donations for shelter operations.
14:36:11 Yeah. Yeah, those double spaces in there, Philip.
14:36:21 We can fix that, no worries.
14:36:27 Yes. It's.
14:36:23 I know. Trying to be a millennium. Greg. It's
14:36:36 That's how easy that is.
14:36:40 Okay, so the next sentence, any grant funding.
14:36:49 Yeah.
14:36:47 Grant funding Receive. Receive.
14:36:48 That says any grant letting proceed or donations.
14:36:56 Wouldn't be any grant funding or donations received? Yeah, I mean it's already there.
14:36:59 No, I'm looking at the very second sentence, not that.
14:37:01 Oh, it's okay the way any grant funding or donations received. Second sentence.
14:37:07 Second sentence.
14:37:10 This one
14:37:10 Yeah.
14:37:11 Any grant funding or donations received that made is superfluous. I think is what you're saying.
14:37:18 No, funding received or donations for. Any grant funding done?
14:37:23 Get rid of the main.
14:37:24 See it or donations.
14:37:27 Okay.
14:37:29 May. Hey, grant funding or donations received.
14:37:39 Take out the.
14:37:40 Okay, other received. Yeah.
14:37:48 Is the space missing? Yeah.
14:37:46 How's that looking? . Except that
14:37:51 Do you take the S off covers?
14:37:55 Yep, that makes sense.
14:38:01 Looks good.
14:38:02 So what about that unless the terms of the grant prohibit such reduction.
14:38:10 Yeah.
14:38:11 Not sure if. Good donation. Forgive it, I guess.
14:38:18 Well, I think it's possible that there could be something in the grant funding that says you can't use it to reduce something.
14:38:25 Okay.
14:38:24 I don't know. I just, I just didn't want to have that, that possible situation hanging out there and.
14:38:31 Us having to deal with it on the fly.
14:38:33 Sure.
14:38:33 That's. Yeah. Hmm.
14:38:44 Gotcha. That's your message, Maggie. Your message.
14:38:45 It could be more elegant than it is. I can tell you that. But I was trying to.
14:38:50 Well, it gets a job.
14:38:52 Get it before you guys today.
14:38:59 They they have seen it unchanged and I haven't heard back from them on it. I did I did hear from Heather who said.
14:39:09 Their plan is to get their comments on the draft agreement to us. Tomorrow morning. They also asked that There was a there's a question.
14:39:25 About budget related to who's going to be required to manage. Any repairs or maintenance.
14:39:35 That are required. Under the lease, is that going to be Bayside or us? And they said if it's gonna be base side, they would like for the overhead to be.
14:39:46 10%.
14:39:46 Increase to 10% instead of 9.9.
14:39:50 What is that? 10 bucks?
14:39:53 I don't know. I mean, we could look at that. We can change that in the spreadsheet and it'll tell you in seconds we want to look at it.
14:40:01 No, I don't. 0 1 increase in overhead. No, let's do it.
14:40:10 I think they did that as a response. Once we divided up the budget between their duties and ours, you know, the ICR change.
14:40:15 So Judy's been talking about residual monies. Like, oh, we kept having some money left at the end of their 30 June obligation and maybe coast has some residual monies.
14:40:27 That they might make available today side to operate the shelter. So that wouldn't be grant funding. But those be donations.
14:40:37 Those are gonna be covered by this language.
14:40:39 Those would be donations. I guess.
14:40:45 That wouldn't be. Okay, getting money back to us.
14:40:41 So the coast would be donation. And, The open is just budget. It's not money coming in from only cap.
14:40:53 It's just. The budget that is left over from what the Housing Fund Board has given.
14:40:58 Holy cap or the shelter would come to the county. So there's no.
14:41:02 Since this they haven't called for reimbursement on right so it would just be a budget.
14:41:11 So we might have.
14:41:06 Right. So we have one more invoice for June to receive. And then anything left over in that budget would then be for the county.
14:41:18 Although with the housing fun board need to reallocate. That we can. Is that West reporting? Gosset. Yeah, I guess.
14:41:31 I mean, it's coming back for the same purpose, but it should still get a recommendation probably. Yeah.
14:41:36 So we should maybe add that to the agenda. Yeah. Under the, we've got the shelter, we can just add the recommendation.
14:41:45 Yeah, consideration on undergo shelter update.
14:41:50 Good point. Thanks, Judy.
14:41:58 Does that require any, what we've been talking about require any change to
14:42:04 I don't think so.
14:42:05 Okay. So I also there are some other changes. Made
14:42:18 To the payment paragraph. And, this is just to make it parallel. I added that this morning.
14:42:28 This change here. So it's not substantive. But this is this number has been modified to be.
14:42:37 More base sides total number than the whole than the whole contract number and that makes perfect sense. And then when you do 1 12th of 300, you get 25.
14:42:50 25,000. So thanks, Judy, for catching that.
14:42:57 And then there were a couple of minor. I think Maybe one minor thing. Oh,
14:43:10 The property coverage thing, this is the language that I had added to deal with the property coverage. I didn't get any specific comments.
14:43:19 Back from anyone and it was highlighted. So I just wanna make sure that we're good with the way it's written.
14:43:28 Yeah.
14:43:28 Wasn't the request from Heather about the repairs going back up or something?
14:43:36 Go the, so the question from Heather was.
14:43:46 Who's gonna do the repairs? Is it gonna be us or is it gonna be, base side?
14:43:53 And if it's And that's what's tied to the request for increase. From, point 9 to 10% for overhead.
14:44:02 That makes sense. So I'm just gonna delete this comment. To satisfy my OCD here.
14:44:10 And if you want to look at, we can look at the budget again if you want. And change that number to see what we.
14:44:18 What we get see and then it may Mainly need that we need to modify this. Number slightly or these numbers slightly.
14:44:26 That makes sense?
14:44:26 Nice. Let me let me read this note. Is it still the expectation that Bayside would be responsible for providing maintenance staff to assist with repairs as needed to supplement
the work done by the maintenance person from the legion or would that be staffed by a county maintenance person?
14:44:42 And I guess I thought that we were at the place where large repairs would be, you know, like if especially if it was an outsourced, like Coon Blowing had to come in when they
had the big, water main thing but the counter would just directly take those bills But that we aren't offering maintenance staff to come and do kind of regular and routine maintenance.
14:45:06 So I guess. I'm, I'm not sure. How we should respond to that in the.
14:45:13 Yes, or the budget or just, I mean, should clarify it, I guess.
14:45:19 Well, you can look at what that change means by tweaking the budget.
14:45:24 A little bit
14:45:24 So it's 2, so it's $2,970 that would increase the budget to 3 0 2.
14:45:33 Hold on.
14:45:40 I had it before and then I lost it.
14:45:46 Would it increase it to 3 0 2?
14:45:53 To go up to the 10%.
14:45:58 Wait what? She's gone from the 9.9 to 10% different topic than what you're talking about.
14:46:06 That much that does it? .
14:46:08 3,000 2,000, they had it at 26. 9 73 for the for the overhead.
14:46:17 So that would increase it.
14:46:21 2 9 9 4 4.
14:46:24 Gotcha. Okay.
14:46:28 Does that make sense, deal?
14:46:32 Yeah.
14:46:40 Okay.
14:46:37 You know, that's okay. You guys are tracking now, it's time. Yeah. So that would change the total the 300,000 would go up modestly and then the monthly payment would change
as well.
14:46:49 I mean, the 300,000 already kind of rounds up, right?
14:46:53 Yeah, barely.
14:46:54 A little bit
14:46:56 Why? I got a different number than Judy when I change the thing in the spreadsheet.
14:47:05 Hey, you off the 6 22 one. Judy? The
14:47:09 I thought I was.
14:47:15 From here, let me just change the. Up there.
14:47:19 It's just it was point wasn't at point 9 9 9 or something and. Okay. Oh, I know why.
14:47:23 Yeah, it was. And I was doing a separate.
14:47:29 I, it's my fault, sorry.
14:47:32 So I was doing 10% of
14:47:37 I think I did do it. I'm sorry. I think I . Yeah
14:47:41 You've followed my lead. My original leave.
14:47:48 Sorry.
14:47:49 Yeah, so I get, I get 2.
14:47:54 299-71-0040
14:47:59 Okay.
14:47:58 That's what I got. So we're still under 300,000.
14:48:03 Okay. Around it. Thanks for some of that.
14:48:10 Well, it's an easy 25,000 per month too. Oh, budget standpoint.
14:48:16 Yes, I'm wondering also do we need to clarify the Maintenance versus repair. I guess what I'm saying is repairs on us and maintenance is on them since we're if you're talking
regular and routine maintenance.
14:48:30 But I don't know where to put that. Yeah, and what's the dividing line?
14:48:39 Well, but down in the bottom we're calling, we're identifying 15,000 for repairs and maintenance.
14:48:48 Down in the county section.
14:48:52 Yeah.
14:48:54 Well, we just take. I mean, we're thinking of repairs as the big stuff and the maintenance as the little stuff, right?
14:49:03 Rent.
14:49:04 Any idea what that? How the breakout of that 15 grand would be among those 2 topics.
14:49:11 So I know Coast had to coast was managing the repairs. And so when they have issues that they have.
14:49:21 Call somebody to repair like either showers or bathrooms or whatever. You know, 3,000. To bring a plumber in.
14:49:30 And that happens 3 to 4 times a year.
14:49:35 That's been their experience.
14:49:40 Yeah.
14:49:38 So that would be repairs not maintenance. That would be repairs. So, you know, cutting and a half might be.
14:49:46 A good way to split that baby. 7,570. Wait, but we're at $10,000 now.
14:49:55 And that's it. Okay.
14:49:55 Yeah, we're at 15. But that's on the county side. So,
14:50:05 I mean.
14:50:05 I mean it is a budget so if it comes in less like You know, I kind of think that, well, then that's good.
14:50:13 At the outside it could be 15. For you.
14:50:16 Well, but we're accounting for The increase by increasing the overhead, the maintenance. Part by increasing the overhead.
14:50:27 But that's that.
14:50:24 Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah, under overhead it says maintenance staff time as needed.
14:50:40 Alright.
14:50:35 Landlord maintenance staff. That's true. So repairs maybe just change that repairs and maintenance just to repairs and maybe we should define what that is.
14:50:43 I did, that's why I did do that. So let's see.
14:50:50 Yeah, called on a second here. Got a little.
14:50:56 You want me to bring up the budget so we can be changing that instead of this document right now? That's where it is.
14:51:02 Sure.
14:51:04 Okay. So. Let me see if I can re-share the right thing. This.
14:51:08 It's a little easier when you see only Excel spreadsheet you have up.
14:51:14 So, so here's I changed it to repairs. There and then we're just gonna say How about we just say repairs?
14:51:31 And then we should probably take this out. 2.
14:51:44 I mean, I don't know if that captures it or whether we need to. Tweak it to capture the sense of your conversations with them with base side.
14:51:54 I think that's good. I think we just have to. Stay flexible for a special meeting in case there is something a last minute change here that we make that is.
14:52:04 In the base side overhead, it still has a multiplier, could last sentence could be fixed. Oh, 2.1.
14:52:17 I'm sorry.
14:52:18 Callum C at the end of C 12.
14:52:23 Just the very last.
14:52:24 Oh, yes, gotcha. Good catch. Thank you.
14:52:35 Thanks, there should be a space in before that between used and for as well.
14:52:40 My name.
14:52:50 What if we just say 10%?
14:52:43 And make it point 1 0 because then it all really look like 10%. Okay. Okay, why don't we do that?
14:52:54 Okay.
14:52:59 How's that?
14:53:00 Good.
14:53:04 I want to say. Yeah, I guess still a multiplier. Okay.
14:53:15 I guess we would need a special meeting if. I or someone else got authorization to sign an updated.
14:53:21 PSA as well. Yeah, I think you want to do that. Yeah. Okay.
14:53:27 Well, you could do it today. You could authorize Greg to sign the, the final one today if you wanted to.
14:53:37 I think we'll have to. It's between now and then. Right. Yeah, along with the lease.
14:53:53 Yeah, the question is, you know, what kind of changes would trigger? Bringing it to the board.
14:54:06 I hope.
14:54:01 At this point I think any change will be inconsequential. Okay, yeah, I think, you know, the agenda request for today.
14:54:14 That's, yeah, no, I feel like we're in a good place.
14:54:21 Well, theoretically, if there's something that makes Greg uncomfortable like. Maybe thinks it's too much.
14:54:29 Then we, you know, we'd have. Until Thursday to Thursday we could decide or Wednesday we could decide to have a special session.
14:54:42 And I'd be making that choice. Philip and Judy and Mark reports too. So I'm not making it totally in a vacuum.
14:54:48 Right.
14:54:48 Yeah, and you could, and Mark could, us with questions or concerns, run it by us. Yeah, cool.
14:54:58 I appreciate that. Anything substantive changes. Okay. We need to make a motion to deputize Greg or we just agree.
14:55:11 Okay.
14:55:11 Yeah, I think you have to make a motion to delegate to Greg.
14:55:17 I'm looking person. If there's anything in the agenda that.
14:55:28 Okay, I just changed this from a 0 to $1. So that it and then. I got the yellow color out of it.
14:55:37 Everybody good with that?
14:55:37 And. I'm happy to make a motion authorizing Commissioner Brotherton. To finalize and sign PSA with Bayside Housing.
14:55:53 Or management of the shelter at the American Legion. I will second that. Right. For public comments.
14:56:06 So anyone in the room? Maggie or online who would like to provide comments? Sure. Great.
14:56:25 Okay.
14:56:15 Smacky coming up and hitting anyone through the zoom room would like to provide public comment. And we are only taking public comments on the budget and professional services
agreement.
14:56:28 Discussed today.
14:56:35 Okay, so this is regarding the budget for, And I knew. That you guys were in trouble when they were duct tapeing the toilet stalls.
14:56:53 And when I when the warden center opened And I called over to Terry. Because sometimes when things are newly open like they don't get all their stuff from the government.
14:57:08 So like we didn't have enough stick works at the learning center. So I called over to Terry and I said, hey, can we have 12 plastic forks?
14:57:19 You want to know what exactly? He said, if I give you 12 plastic forks. I could lose my job.
14:57:28 And we're talking about. 12 path plus that probably cost. 1 10th of one cents. For the same consumers that are in the shelter and people coming in who camp outside and sleep
in, we were short 12 works.
14:57:49 And nobody should have a budget. So skinny. That you know could you imagine working at Starbucks and getting fired for giving the customers 12 plus 6 draws.
14:58:11 So the issue of budget and and so it kind of was predictable the whole shower thing was predictable.
14:58:21 So, that, that was a sign that things were all. So this whole thing of whether things can be fixable within the budget or you know that building is you know from the 1940 s
there are things you can't fix.
14:58:40 And so You know, it's like, rather than hiding it under the rug, it's just, acknowledging it and then what can you do in the meantime and and probably the only issue really
left to even resolve it doesn't even really have to do with the budget probably would have to do with you know, the troops sounding like they're you know, bugging out for D day
14:59:13 on, the ceiling. You know, to, you know, especially too late, Phil 3 am in the morning.
14:59:20 So if you're gonna have the VFW doing that, why not? Let people sleep go to bed later and then sleep in on the weekends and and close the shelter at 9.
14:59:35 And work out a compromise with the VW that way. With the video. Okay, that's it.
14:59:45 Alright.
14:59:48 Anyone else that's by public comment? Please raise hand.
14:59:56 Right, close public comments.
15:00:00 Greg and you know But it's tough, so I don't disagree with anything. And this is still a tight budget and.
15:00:12 Yeah, I hear the concerns and it's still not going to be easy, but I think it's.
15:00:19 As I said often, you know, we This is not the time to let perfect be the enemy of good.
15:00:25 And I think that, keeping the doors open is the. The primary need right now. And yeah, still satisfied.
15:00:35 Is the, I guess one question is the spreadsheet gonna be like Appendix A with the PSA.
15:00:39 It'll be a
15:00:40 Okay, Yeah, no, I'm, really happy we got here.
15:00:50 Alright, any other discussion? Okay, all those in favor of authorizing Greg to sign the professional services agreement.
15:01:00 Please say aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries.
15:01:04 Alright, just proud. Alright, thanks. Yeah, you know, not just me. There's a team here that's been helping through the whole process.
15:01:12 So I'm gonna need them the whole time. Thank you.
15:01:21 Alright. Are ready to move on to the DSA dress settlement?
15:01:28 Yes.
15:01:30 You again.
15:01:33 Okay, so, I'm gonna try to bring up this document here. While I'm explaining what's going on.
15:01:43 The This discussion. Comes from the lawsuit that was filed. By a bunch of Washington counties and WASSAC against.
15:01:58 Yes, for for their failure to Follow the law. Related to determined that people who are determined to be mentally and confident.
15:02:12 Better facing criminal charges and they have several duties. To the counties in the public. Of warning and doing some other things that they just weren't doing.
15:02:24 They did and they admitted they were not doing them. And And so. The counties got together and decided that they were going to sue them.
15:02:40 And, to try to make them do. What they what they were supposed to do under the law.
15:02:48 And, and that happened and the DSHS immediately. Tried to remove the case to federal court to the court that had already held them in contempt the federal orders related to
their providing.
15:03:06 Services to
15:03:10 Mental health services, particularly at the state hospital. And. And the the federal judge flatly agreed with us.
15:03:23 That they were misinterpreting what her orders were. She Quickly remanded it back to state court.
15:03:32 And the state court. State spirit court judge very quickly entered a preliminary injunction against DSHS requiring it to comply with state law.
15:03:47 There were And then, DSH quickly appealed. So the cases pending in the quarter of appeals.
15:03:56 Meanwhile, there was a discussion among the parties about how how to really make you know, the,
15:04:07 The requirement of complying with their duties. How to really make that work effectively. And so there's some practical discussions about how to make that work.
15:04:17 Some difficulties arise with some mandatory language that the state wanted. Because you can't. Mandate that a superior court judge or prosecuting attorney do things when they
have discretion.
15:04:37 By law to do things. So it was a complex discussion. Finally, there was a language worked out between the Ag's office.
15:04:50 And, primarily.
15:04:55 King County's lawyers and, and the lawyers for WASSAC. Came up with language and then.
15:05:03 Senator around to the lawyers for. The various counties. You know, asking for input and we gave it input and and then we finally kind of have a final document.
15:05:20 And, and I'm gonna put it up now. It's this memorandum of understanding.
15:05:28 And it just, it's a very practical document that just says what everybody is gonna do. And probably the best way of sort of seeing what's gonna happen I think is looking at
appendix.
15:05:44 Oh, quiet.
15:05:40 The appendix to it so I'll try to scroll to that. Once I get past all of signatures, but any questions you guys have on doing that.
15:05:48 Yeah, well, while you're doing that, What is the relationship with this in the true blood case from 2014?
15:05:59 The federal case.
15:06:00 The true blood case that was also S.
15:06:03 Oh, Trouble, sorry, didn't quite again. Yes, so. So they're, really not related.
15:06:12 That's what the That's what that's what the federal judge said. That's the true bread to blood judge.
15:06:17 The federal judge to send it. To remanded it back to stay at court. True true blood is about different issues that were negotiated.
15:06:28 With a with a I think it was a class action. That was brought against the state and and and there was a consent decree entered and the state was violating the consent degree
and that's where the big contempt finding was that I think it was 250 million dollars.
15:06:48 Sometime what?
15:06:48 That also.
15:06:53 So I'm sorry to say again, there was 2 people talking.
15:06:56 Wasn't that also? that DSA just was found to not be, providing for competency review for trials that It seems very similar.
15:07:10 It, it, it did not include competency reviews for trials, my recollection.
15:07:19 But, to provide services to people who are in state hospitals was part of it. For sure. Hey, failure to build the the space at the state hospital that they said they would build.
15:07:35 Hmm.
15:07:35 And they came in with all these excuses and and as federal judge said, nonsense and And that's when she held them in contempt.
15:07:49 So they actually agreed to do things. The state did or the or DSA chess did with with the plaintiffs and there was a consent degree and agreement.
15:07:57 That they failed to honor and that's why they got that's why they got. Held in contempt with a big contempt number.
15:08:07 In this case or through blood.
15:08:09 True blood. Trouble, this is much simpler than true blood. This is just. You're not doing what you're supposed to do.
15:08:19 When you release people after they after they've had after they've been determined to be and competent to stand trial.
15:08:31 And so this This just makes them comply with state law. That's all it is. And, and so.
15:08:40 What we've sort of worked out in the memorandum of understanding is how everybody's going to make that work.
15:08:49 Okay.
15:08:49 Cause there has to be a there has to be a discussion, an ongoing discussion about. You know, who's gonna be released and so forth and that's what this that's what's the demo
you does it just lays out how that's all going to happen.
15:09:08 We're not seeing on your screen.
15:09:08 And it's and. I'm sorry, say again, Kate.
15:09:14 We're, we're not seeing that yet on your screen.
15:09:17 Oh, sorry.
15:09:18 Okay. Page 13 of the memorandum.
15:09:23 Yeah, so this so This is just kind of a chart showing what what all they're gonna, what, how it's gonna work.
15:09:31 And then, and then, There's a discussion in the memo itself about how it's gonna work.
15:09:42 I'm sorry, I'm scrolling back.
15:09:57 And it's been working this way since we got the injunction. So it it works this this is essentially
15:10:10 Complies with the injunction. And here are the key things. That they have to do. These 2 things, 3.1 and 3.2.
15:10:22 That they were not doing.
15:10:27 They have to receive and evaluate civil conversion patients and facilities operated or contracted. By DS.
15:10:36 DSHS under RCW 10.7 7 0 8 6 7. And they have to provide notice to prosecutors as required by RCW.
15:10:47 71 0 5. Or 2 5 regarding. Release transfer leave granted to committed patients.
15:10:55 That's really all we were asking for. That's what we got in the. The injunction and this is what's reflected in the MOU.
15:11:07 And then. And then the rest is really just how we're, how everybody is going to work together to make that happen.
15:11:20 So in. Where would this actually come to play in Jefferson County? Would this be someone being held in the jail?
15:11:32 Who the state would be providing notice if they granted a and confused how this plays out here.
15:11:44 Yeah, so, 3.1 would be. For our county would be someone in jail. And they and they would have to.
15:11:55 Take them and evaluate them. As required by by the RCW. Which they what they were trying to do.
15:12:06 Was was put this put this on our and our DCRs.
15:12:14 Hmm. For ITAs, yeah.
15:12:15 Okay, you know, and that's not and so that was very annoying and then because they were worried about true blood and I believe they were worried about violating true blood.
15:12:33 Hmm.
15:12:28 They were just letting people go without giving the proper notice. So this notice. Good. Gives counties the ability to do whatever they can to try to protect the public for
someone who's dangerous.
15:12:43 And is being released. But, but has been found mentally and competent to stand trial.
15:12:52 Sure.
15:12:50 So can I restate it just to make sure I'm understanding? So the involuntary treatment assessment, ITA that the DC W's would do with our community mental health center.
15:13:10 Yes.
15:13:01 That's so being held in jail. So it wouldn't be in jail. Yeah, suspicion of a crime.
15:13:12 Okay, thank you. And then they were trying to put it off for the VCWs, the SHS to do those.
15:13:18 Evaluations which are required within like, 14 days, right, under, true blood. Okay. And now they have to do them themselves and notify us if they do.
15:13:32 Release someone because they aren't. They don't they don't meet that threshold. That accurate.
15:13:47 Hmm.
15:13:39 What they were trying to do is say that it's our responsibility. To receive these folks from or that It wasn't, they weren't.
15:13:51 They were saying, we, we can't. Take these people because we don't have the beds.
15:13:57 Hmm.
15:13:59 Right. And so where would the people go? You can't keep them in jail. Right.
15:14:06 Have to go somewhere.
15:14:04 So where are they gonna go? They're getting released. Yeah.
15:14:08 So, so they're putting it back on counties to do this to basically deal with this. And, and and they were making arguments about the the designated crisis responders and could
do this or could be involved in this.
15:14:28 At their job.
15:14:26 And we're saying, no, that's not right. And basically the courts.
15:14:34 Both the federal judge and true blood and the state court who had the injunction said. We don't care if you don't have the ability to put these folks in the state hospitals.
15:14:48 You have the ability to contract. With others to do that. And you're not doing that.
15:14:58 So it's just telling them, do what you're supposed to do under under the law.
15:15:04 And there was a big sentence in the. Agenda request talking about the fiscal impact or maybe missing a word or something, but the only fiscal impact to sign on to this MOU would
be that Mr. Hunsucker, you have a little bit more capacity drain and kind of.
15:15:21 Being our perspective on this versus doing all of it. Is that right? Okay.
15:15:25 Yeah, so I apologize for the missing last part of the sentence, but what the, If you, if you agree with the prosecuting attorneys recommendation and, and authorized signature
of the SMU, then it will Very slightly reduce, increase, increase my capacity.
15:15:48 Hmm.
15:15:46 Because nobody else was working on this but me. If you don't.
15:15:53 Accept our recommendation, then we'll be the ones left in the case. And that will significantly increase.
15:16:01 What I have to do. So it's not agreeing is a big is a big budget. Negative for us.
15:16:10 It's pretty easy. Yes.
15:16:15 So it and this. The.
15:16:22 In Rogers and the, and the other lawyers representing. WAS active and really outstanding job.
15:16:31 For WASEC and the counties. In this litigation is really good job. So
15:16:37 Yeah, and especially, given that, lack of success with the indigent defense case, like just finally having a win saying, Hey, counties are taking so much of the burden of the
criminal justice system that the state is supposed to do.
15:16:53 So nice to get recognition that. It has a responsibility and They can be taking on this relatively small piece, but still.
15:17:02 Nice. A gesture in the right direction. I'm happy to make a
15:17:08 And it
15:17:12 Great, Phil.
15:17:13 I was gonna say and it wasn't that easy to get here even though the law is very clear.
15:17:19 Yeah.
15:17:22 Alright, so you're looking for. us to approve signing the settlement agreement. Hello.
15:17:30 So you could either you can either ask you can either authorize me to do the to sign this or I'd suggest Mark.
15:17:40 It might be a better option because, because of the stuff in there that relates to prosecutors.
15:17:47 I'm happy to move that we authorize the county administrator to sign the MOU on behalf of the county.
15:17:53 I will second that. And, since we weren't able to have this uploaded with the, agenda, it will open it up for public comment.
15:18:04 Would anyone like to comment on the. Mou and the settlement before us only. You're in the Zoom room, please hit raise hand and we'll start in the physical room, Maggie.
15:18:22 Okay, so I thought this was about the true one thing. And it's related, but.
15:18:31 If this is about.
15:18:34 SS. Releasing violent people into the shelter, dropping them off at the shelter.
15:18:46 I am concerned about that. You know, Could be they have a history with.
15:18:55 Firearms? We don't know. They, we don't get that information.
15:19:04 So I am concerned about that, byline offenders. So. If this is.
15:19:13 You know, where else did they go? I don't know. I don't know what the solution.
15:19:20 To that. Halfway house where they have to check in every day with somebody. I, I don't know.
15:19:30 But I think having in shelter where you have a mixed population. Men and women and LGBTQ and just disabled and elderly.
15:19:47 I think you have to be really careful. About taking. So somebody who's who might do something really not.
15:19:56 And putting them in that population. That's all I want to say. Okay. Thank you.
15:20:04 But anyone else like to provide public comments on the settlement agreement.
15:20:12 Okay, we'll close public comments.
15:20:18 In response to, I think this is an effort to reduce. The likelihood of that happening that DSA just has a responsibility.
15:20:24 It doesn't mean that it doesn't and won't happen. Continue to happen.
15:20:28 Anything you want to add, Phil?
15:20:31 No, I think you handled it very well.
15:20:35 Any other? 10Â min questions. I remember when this came up for us to consider signing. And it felt like the right path forward.
15:20:48 Alright, all those in favor of officer authorizing the county administrator assign the MLU, they say, all right.
15:20:55 Motion carries. Alright, great work.
15:21:01 Thank you.
15:21:05 Okay, where are we? What a day. Yeah, I'm sure it all. 40 many vacancies in the last thing.
15:21:13 And if you wanted to talk about legislative priorities when we should schedule that. We haven't done calendaring, but I do have a meeting at 4.
15:21:20 It'd be great to get out. A minute or 2 early to get We'll see if we can get out.
15:21:27 Alright, so we have some vacancies.
15:21:39 Hey, both advisory committee. And the ASO knows about that. So.
15:21:47 That was at a meeting on Friday of that group.
15:21:52 Thank you. I don't need that. I don't know where we got someone. Okay.
15:22:02 Okay. So should it not be on our board list or? But I'm just saying that HR is staffing it.
15:22:12 Okay.
15:22:14 Concernation features, and the committee usually recruit for those through. But there is a citizen district 3, just phone, brought your attention to that, Greg.
15:22:26 You know, very good. Yup. I push Tom who was here this morning. He's been great.
15:22:35 Yeah, that's a problem. I thought he was idea on it. Oh, you pushed it and it was successful.
15:22:44 Hmm.
15:22:49 Yeah, the housing fund board is fine itself, but what kind of flesh out the, committees a little bit.
15:23:07 We will get beginning our new housing fund board member this week from the city replacing Yeah, Owen, that's my meeting at 4 o'clock.
15:23:18 Just do a little on boarding with him.
15:23:21 And Monica for Board of Health, right?
15:23:26 And growth management. She was there in the audience. Listening last week.
15:23:43 Okay. We're working with Wendy on the free advisory committee and working on that. Those are limited to Port Townsend.
15:23:52 So.
15:23:57 We have. I'm sure of the MRC. They can see I haven't seen the.
15:24:06 I've heard discussion of that having not been in. Maybe rep on the MRC, like when I 1st joined the NRC, that was a vacancy.
15:24:15 And I feel like maybe Wendy doing a good job of. Cross referencing the list with the committees.
15:24:21 Repopulated that vacancy. Yeah, she is going through and sifting through and making changes and.
15:24:27 Trying to find a better way to catch expiring ones in the future.
15:24:34 It shipped up. Oh yeah. Noxious. Weed bar still has its.
15:24:39 I mean, I pull on my notches, weed, so now I can ask my neighbor if they'll consider it.
15:24:45 And Parks and Rock needs district one, district 3, I think. District 3?
15:24:54 Did John step on that right? Hmm, step down and I know it just happened.
15:25:03 I think.
15:25:21 Yes.
15:25:25 Anybody have their marching orders? Yeah. We want to talk this week. Sure.
15:25:36 I can go first.st Let's see. As I said today, I'm doing a little housing floodboard onboarding after 4 o'clock.
15:25:45 Tomorrow I'm meeting, Nicole and Miranda to do, to talk Jefferson Transit Finance in the morning.
15:25:55 And then at lunch I met with Dan Underwood, who's an economist that's been working with the Kyle, MDC and on Recompete and he's doing some analysis of the Blind Cove properties
so we can do some.
15:26:06 You know, future value of investment and things like that. So we're working on, I'll be with the, with the man at Christopherson tomorrow morning and then we have the shelter
coalition at 11.
15:26:18 And then that EDC. Has been recommended a couple times to consider not just being a c 6 but also open up foundation side that seem to be signed so we're looking into that and
have a we have a, to, do all the C 3 paperwork, but.
15:26:38 Oh, I've done. It's all. It's not that hard to throw this out.
15:26:44 But it's doing dialogue and articles and corporation and everything. So, $5,000 might be still a quick path to that.
15:26:51 So considering that off, you know, so we can. Like I mentioned, I bring more, yeah, apply for grants, bring more funding.
15:26:58 And you know, some operational grants, not just like a, that's passing through, which is, and get foundation stuff.
15:27:04 Basically, and, contributions. Then on Wednesday, doing a can join the cam down at City Hall for the shelter to continue the CUP.
15:27:18 Break's worked on and then, there's a, general membership meeting and yeah, come on.
15:27:25 I'm not sure if I'm supposed to sign on to vote on anything there, but then we have the housing on board.
15:27:33 Okay, housing fun board. You probably missed the housing fund board or be online for that. And then, Jefferson Aquatic Coalitions having their meeting Wednesday evening.
15:27:42 I'm gonna go to for some of it because, Matt from the South would be Parks and Rec District is who's gonna be with us on Thursdays going there.
15:27:50 So I'm gonna go meet them. And participate in that meeting. Then, on Thursday, the 27.th
15:27:59 We have a Jeffcom meeting that I'll definitely go to. I missed the last couple and we have our monthly NVC meeting.
15:28:07 We're learning. More about, I think title energy. Carbon removal. Oh carbon removal, yeah that there's been a contentious letter of support that we haven't quite done.
15:28:18 There's been a contentious letter of support that we haven't quite done. They're trying to do a carbon removal project and that Portland's right at the bay there and Very interesting.
15:28:27 It's like a little straw, but it kind of Can't remember exactly how it works, but it does add, create some very localized temperature differential as it's.
15:28:38 I think pumping carbon into the water. I'm not sure. Magic.
15:28:42 I don't know. But yes, department, and, removal. And then the healthier together meeting Thursday evening right here.
15:28:50 As I. Previewed will have Matt the commissioner Sims from the South would be Parks and Rec District to talk.
15:29:00 And then we might talk about doing a. A request for qualifications for a little bit of.
15:29:07 Septic, investigation at the Chinatown Park site. I guess I wanted to run that by you and see if you think that would be something that we want to invest a little bit money
and to kind of do some due diligence on.
15:29:20 What that septic system would cost. We'll be able to scope it a little bit.
15:29:27 Start in the South Windy folks. And Just looking at the wax, pretty easy to figure out.
15:29:32 Do you want this many people to be in it? This is the size of next speed. So they just do investigation into the soils and really figure out how much space we've made for the
drain field and all that so I guess.
15:29:51 I think it's the feasibility of the site. It's pretty it's the feasibility of the site. It's pretty.
15:29:57 It's see. We want to know until we get basically. So like, do we want to wait until the end of the task force or just like pick this process off?
15:30:00 Estimates from people but it's not going to really mean much. Well, if it's the site of choice so far, right?
15:30:08 Seems like we need to start doing some due diligence on it. The entry and exit would be on a state highway.
15:30:15 And so I think Washington should be consulting. Well, we did talk about that. I talked about that with Monty.
15:30:23 And so, they've already talked to washed out about it and have a proposed you know I can actually just read you Eric's summation of that I was told I couldn't put that.
15:30:35 I can actually just read you Eric's, summation of that. I was told I couldn't put that.
15:30:37 Dollar traffic study. I think that might be slightly premature at the structure just because. You know, we that is workable.
15:30:48 It's just, you know, are we gonna have to put in a small roundabout to 2 million dollars?
15:30:52 Would they want an underpass? Which is expensive, maybe a security issue as well? Would they want?
15:30:57 You know, I mean, I think that we heard at, at Jefferson Transit, John Fleming was there, talked about the ODT a little bit and they're going to do an at-grade crosswalk crossing
for the Anderson Lake.
15:31:10 The you know flashing light so and maybe reduce the speed limit to 35 not just.
15:31:16 Recommendation. And they prefer to be at the actual crossing versus just So we'll see what the answer there is, but I, there is a solution to that.
15:31:28 They did prefer and talking to Eric as well. App that at that intersection directly across from, park rather than coming in from a different way.
15:31:39 But we would just have to do a study. And, but. That would have to happen at a certain point because some of the other locations really wouldn't require much traffic modification.
15:31:50 That's a hard one because even Roundabouts are not great for pedestrians. Either they call traffic.
15:31:59 Yeah. But so it's not great for pedestrians either. I mean, they call them traffic. Yeah. But so that's not a great solution either.
15:32:03 Yeah. I think it's premature to know what the solution is. That's kinda. An affordable safe.
15:32:14 Probably right there. Yeah, and I know. But if you came off of it wouldn't do a signal is what I heard.
15:32:24 I mean, off of. West Sally at school. Yeah, then sharing now they didn't like that.
15:32:31 I mean, we could make the argument, you know, and I take a traffic says watchdog.
15:32:37 Yeah. Let me just look for that. No problem. I'll just.
15:32:47 And I would like impact analysis and intersection control evaluation would have to be performed by qualified traffic engineering.
15:32:57 Consolidated access directly across from the HTTL entrance. Signals unlikely to approve small roundabouts.
15:33:05 Pretty much it. And did they say that? 20,000 estimate for the. That was from Monte.
15:33:14 Appreciate that. I would. Love to be pleasantly surprised if the cost is any lower at that site than.
15:33:26 Not view, but. Oh, that cost for the total project. Right. Well, I mean, what the total project is another question.
15:33:36 But I mean, that you could phase it there too where you're, yeah, you have enough space.
15:33:39 This is where we're gonna build our indoor pool. This is where we're gonna build our outdoor pool and start looking for.
15:33:46 You know, build a master plan that you can. Thanks. But I, and I don't think we do that.
15:33:53 We still are, that's 1 of the challenges in the task force is. Coming up with hard costs, you know, there's back and forth about what's the stormwater gonna cost and a lot of
these don't think.
15:34:05 I don't think we're getting a lot of confidence about the true costs. Will have high and low ranges kind of.
15:34:13 You know based on the city's thoughts and as well as you know some outside experts but it'll be a pretty wide range for a lot of those.
15:34:21 Build a cost.
15:34:27 Let's get back to my calendar.
15:34:30 Calendar.
15:34:35 So healthier together on Thursday, Friday we're doing a special meeting of LTAC.
15:34:40 Trying to review some other plan. San Juan County has a like a plan a master plan for LTAC that they review and I think the commissioners contribute to so we're looking that
at their code and that as an example and just breaking into the RCW.
15:35:00 Yeah, so that's just beginning and we'll also be getting presentations from, some of the awardees from last year.
15:35:06 Not gonna be able to make to that dose of well through a collaborative on Saturday because we have a family reunion starting Friday afternoon that will take me after the weekend.
15:35:15 Thanks. Or the other coming here, right down in here. So one day at our house and one day, out and about one day at the rental house in Portlando.
15:35:31 So my week is not as busy as Commissioner Brother since, but tomorrow I have a meeting with Apple and Anna McGinry to follow up on our behavioral health opioid settlement funding
summit that we did a while back.
15:35:45 To kind of start formulating a plan based on everyone's input. In the late afternoon there's a retirement party for Bob Simmons Where else?
15:35:59 Retiring after many years at WSU. I had the WASAC meeting on my calendar. Thinking one of us needed to be there, but you'll be there.
15:36:11 So that's good. Yeah. Although we should look up the voting situation. Okay.
15:36:19 Can we proxy you maybe? There is an online component so I'm sure that will be online voting and I think we each have a vote but think so.
15:36:27 That's why we're voting on. I intend to be there online. Great. If needed.
15:36:39 Okay, I will look it up. Thursday I'm going to the farmers market. Board meeting.
15:36:47 I think it's at the Tri area farmers market. And then middle of the day and then in the afternoon I am doing the bicycle tour.
15:36:55 Of Hadlocks 3 historic districts. Mark, I might need to move our lunch date a little bit earlier on.
15:37:03 There. Like a half an hour earlier just to give me time to get to. That back to head back.
15:37:12 Okay, we're scheduled from 1130. Sure. Okay. Brush.
15:37:22 Maybe you need to call it branch. And then, the. Wassack. Encumbered Lamb's work group is meeting on Friday morning.
15:37:34 But exciting late breaking news as we just learned that we're gonna have our finalized community wildfire protection plan by Wednesday so we will be working to get All of the.
15:37:46 Signatures fixed to that plan by. Middle of next week. But it'll be on our agenda for Monday.
15:37:53 And it's on city council agenda for Monday. And I thought it might be fun we could invite people to come sign here.
15:38:02 You do a little signing ceremony. As part of our agenda. Next Monday. Saying that out loud from the city is what you're saying.
15:38:13 It's all the signatures that are going on the community wildfire protection plan. There's like 25 or 30 signatures.
15:38:20 Otherwise I'll be driving all over. And it'd be more fun to have a little ceremony.
15:38:25 So. Anyway, so that's much of this week. Good work. And looking a little bit further out.
15:38:35 I don't. Not that much further out. Are we, Mark, are you aware of this?
15:38:42 Courthouse rehab Grant. Yes. And we're not doing anything for it.
15:38:46 You don't have that capacity. Okay, cause we just got another message from the last interest for us.
15:38:55 Okay.
15:38:57 And that's it. Are we still on for next Wednesday at your house? Yes. Okay, I'm just looking a little bit further out.
15:39:05 But next weekend. Maybe. Taking some time off. Just take the 4th off, please.
15:39:14 That's what it takes. Yeah.
15:39:21 I'll be with you. I'll be with you on Monday. And I will.
15:39:26 Do you do my commissioner's corner article for Wendy? Nice.
15:39:32 So I'm looking at our packet for the Wasack. It's should probably read the bylaws to see.
15:39:43 Really? It's gonna take reading the whole thing. Just. Remember.
15:39:59 Okay.
15:40:04 Hmm. Okay.
15:40:10 Okay.
15:40:18 Central meetings.
15:40:32 It's gonna take me a while pet an active member is Duly elected or appointed county commissioners.
15:40:39 So we're each active members.
15:40:42 Each other voting rights. Only active members of the association are entitled to vote. Alright, about office risk, sorry.
15:40:55 Yeah, looks like each.
15:40:58 Have one but then is that
15:41:05 Ask Paul Julie, sent us an email today.
15:41:17 No, the majority of the votes entitled to be cast by active members. Present at a meeting in which of the votes entitled to be cast by active members present at a meeting in
which a forum is present should be necessary for the adoption of any matter voted upon by the active members.
15:41:31 Unless the greater proportion is required by applicable Washington. So that's the old bylaws. So I think that means that we do each kind of vote.
15:41:44 We are voting to change that to be proportional. Okay. So each of our toes will be able to vote.
15:41:55 I'm not sure of course. Yeah. Right. Less than 1%.
15:42:04 Okay, so yes, you could vote by. Which way are you inclined to vote? Desperate to Claw, Seattle, King County back end.
15:42:20 Just, I mean, you know. And Clark and Spokane. Yeah, maybe. I don't I don't know that we would lose them because they're more ideologically in mind.
15:42:34 So I think if we want to continue to have an association. That's probably, this is probably a necessary step and you know, a lot of my colleagues that I line with those countries
too.
15:42:47 Interested and you know, that's why I was going to blame driving there. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I, yeah.
15:42:59 But, I got to, No, Cernandez? Yeah, I, but the sound asparagus season yet or there's better seasons fast, right?
15:43:13 I'm not sure they have them. You don't like the neat ones. I do, but I wouldn't drive 4Â h for tomorrow at the same time.
15:43:21 Hello, so good. That's a good drive together. We could not talk about work.
15:43:31 Talk about Tamilis. Yes.
15:43:34 Alright, sorry, my turn, right? Okay.
15:43:40 So. Tomorrow I am in Tacoma. All day for diversity, equity and inclusion training specific to natural resources work.
15:43:53 Looking forward to then I'll join the climate action committee. More salmon at the table. Is that what we need?
15:44:03 No. Wednesday morning, have a call with Tammy. My way to Yakima.
15:44:16 So loud travel this week again. Okay. Be there in person just Looks like a 3rd minute.
15:44:29 Then I'll join the housing fund board meeting. I have to join a little bit late.
15:44:33 Do you think that's a problem? She catch that, Carolyn. Yeah, let me know if there is a core issue and I could potentially leave a little bit early, but okay.
15:44:44 Otherwise, I'd be joining around 3. Okay. Thursday I have signature verification training.
15:44:52 For the election. Then agenda review with Mark. And then I am out. Friday.
15:45:06 There is a North Olympic legislative alliance steering committee meeting. But I can't attend for 9 to 11.
15:45:13 This is Not supposed to be working at all, but.
15:45:20 Thanks.
15:45:24 It's from Window and the K 9 to 11 on zoom. I could do 9 to 10, but I have been covered lands work group meeting from 10 to 11.
15:45:34 If you'd be willing to join the 1st hour, it would be great. Do you have a calendar thing.
15:45:43 And we'll let Josh know that I can't be there. This is the old Only window I had to travel with my mom to say goodbye to her beloved sister.
15:45:56 So I'll be gone. Friday I'll be joining virtually on Monday. So, would one of you be willing to chair?
15:46:06 I think I already signed up for it. And then I'll be back on Tuesday. Okay.
15:46:10 Yeah, 100 degree. 100 degrees and humans. Yeah. Let's leave the trees up.
15:46:23 Read some of that. Yeah. Then, yeah, then that next week is a funky with holiday on the port.
15:46:37 Anyone going to the new music festival? I'm going on Thursday. Yeah, we'll see.
15:46:43 Yeah, go on Thursday. It's, you know, locals, local getting free.
15:46:47 I don't think we're gonna camp, but, Yeah, we'll do that.
15:46:51 You going? One of the bands on Friday, sorry. Contemplating.
15:47:02 And I do have I'm gonna work Friday morning with this, but then maybe take the afternoon off.
15:47:08 I'm with Mark and Short Fridays during the summer. Worker bets off. Enjoy.
15:47:19 Nice summer Friday afternoon. Okay. I'm going to wedding this weekend.
15:47:33 And the Beijing Museum of Art and opening on the next shows. Yeah.
15:47:44 That's about it. Most aware of. Maybe. This is, yeah, so the 5? th
15:47:56 Yes, 25. We have 3 passes.
15:48:00 Just a little update, to get, walking talk scheduled for the roadie carnival.
15:48:10 So Mark, I don't know if you're able to follow that, via email while you were gone, but.
15:48:12 Yeah, when does that occurred? Monday July 8th at noon over our lunch hour. Yeah, city and. So much.
15:48:21 Yeah. So, welcome to join if you're some clients or I can. Cover for county whichever.
15:48:29 You prefer. Yeah, alright. Yeah, just look at, sites and. Talk about the last Friday.
15:48:38 Yeah, talked about the past and, neither John nor Aaron were here last time around. Miss Lee, can I get them to liaison?
15:48:48 2 flags that you'd rather get pulled in once we narrowed down some options. Yeah.
15:48:56 Yeah, oh, should say to fairgrounds meeting this week, so we'll get the, I was asking Carolyn who signs the on behalf of the fairgrounds.
15:49:07 I shouldn't sign in. Out of county and fairground. So authorize. Maybe Ben Thomas to sign.
15:49:18 Yep. That's it. To me, Mark, your week.
15:49:21 Okay. Tomorrow. I think we're our negotiations with Teams. There's central services.
15:49:34 One o'clock I'm gonna meet with.
15:49:39 Josh and Money on the Then 2 o'clock, 18 meeting. And. 3 5 public sector cabinet meeting.
15:49:49 Cindy Brooks.
15:49:52 Wednesday. One on one with, with Brent Butler and then. Right, we have the camera at 10 o'clock.
15:50:02 Then I'm getting much Renee. Elliott, one clock to discuss the.
15:50:06 Central Services. Candidate evaluation process. And
15:50:13 How to compose interview panel and I just generally work on a strategy we want to employ.
15:50:20 And on Thursday.
15:50:23 Jeff, I'm admin board and then lunch with Haiti. At 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
15:50:32 Agenda review, okay. That does it for my.
15:50:39 So I went on Friday.
15:50:45 Alright, anything else you want to cover today? Oh, legislative. Agenda. I mean, yeah, I could put on the agenda planner for.
15:50:56 A different date. Just make sure I don't forget about it. Yeah. I worry about opening up too much of a process and setting an expectation that we can take on more than.
15:51:07 It's under. Yeah, yeah, it might be an item on the, on the coronation community meetings. Oh, that might be a place.
15:51:17 Just, well, I don't know. I think that opens the same Pandora's box and kids afraid of here. Oh, that might be a place. Just, I don't know.
15:51:23 I think that opens the same Pandora's box update, but it's always with kind of more like a situational awareness to know what people are working on or thinking about enough
to make a joint.
15:51:32 Share agenda priorities. Right, but I've, someone mentioned, you, that WASSACK has its affiliates that lobby on behalf of network works and public health.
15:51:42 So on. So. You know, their issues will be addressed. Right, but if they make it to our list, they get much more attention.
15:51:52 Yeah. I mean, maybe the counter coordination is the 1st step just to talk about. Ledge priority is coming up.
15:52:01 Next year. I mean, that's really. Advocates, you know, I know our assessor and treasurer, well, it's public works.
15:52:11 I mean, these are all really. Now there. If you don't know what their issues are, you can't decide to take it.
15:52:17 Right, come on. Yeah. So we cancelled coordination meetings, except. Well, we cancel June and July, low attendance.
15:52:31 Slim agenda so August, I think is that next? That a quarterly one? Okay.
15:52:44 Timely, we gotta get it all wrapped up by November or whatever.
15:52:55 Yeah, in July, I have it. On my calendar 3 times the coordination meeting and one is canceled.
15:53:07 Yeah. Yeah, the August one has a cancellation notice attached at July. Then Cause that's a quarterly.
15:53:20 It might be a good opportunity if it's scheduled. Hmm. Hmm.
15:53:32 So that is, yeah, July is still happening. August just cancelled.
15:53:40 So, So, The 19, which I'm supposed to be gone. So the popular celebration.
15:54:01 And, he's gone, apples gone. Like, these are, yeah, these summer Fridays are hard.
15:54:05 Talked about bringing it back to Mondays. Oh, right. Do it at a Monday meeting. Lunch.
15:54:12 Yeah, July, And both of you here. Friday the 19.th I am here. I might be out at, But, because sacked though. Oh, right.
15:54:39 And I do have an Olympic consortium board meeting until 12. But. And Mark, where you plan to be away that July 19? th
15:54:48 We are. Yeah. We should cancel it. Yeah, One second.
15:55:10 Okay, you're on the 19. Okay. So.
15:55:18 Okay. Sorry, Greg, who was trying to look at that. Successfully fills this power. Right, anything else?
15:55:29 No. We are. Thank you. Ready for sharing next week.
15:55:38 Join via Zoom. So Mark and I will do agenda or you're gonna do agenda with him. I can do it, but if you prefer to, you're welcome too.
15:55:48 No, it's fine. You guys.
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