HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption08:59:23 Okay.
08:59:31 Now, that's unusual. I'm gonna reset the clock. Yeah, I don't know.
08:59:42 My phone says 9. Good. Everybody ready to get started?
08:59:55 Good morning, everyone. I'll call this meeting in the Jefferson County Borders Commissioner.
09:00:01 Bye. What is it? March 20 fifth.
09:00:09 And any announcements before we get started? Okay. Just got a couple of things. We're gonna take a recess at, 10 am and also, on the agenda.
09:00:21 Did not include that there will be public comments after or at some point during or after these 3 block workshop on the emergency shelter.
09:00:32 Right, let's start this morning with. And welcome, comments from the public on any topic. Yes, you would like to, comment on zoom, you'll hit the raise hand button, will be
asked to come over, Okay.
09:00:53 Okay. Everybody will have up to 3Â min to speak. It is helpful if you state your name and place of residence, so it is not required.
09:01:01 Okay, let's start in the room. I would like to provide public comments. Thank you. Sorry.
09:01:17 Hi, guys. Okay, so this morning I would like to start with RCW Title 70.
09:01:25 Dot, 54 dot o 50, which is about the law enforcement and health care providers.
09:01:36 That have a duty to. Render aid to people who have contagious disease so there was a guy that came from and I am sorry for having to describe this, but.
09:01:52 It can only be described as his legs looked as though rabid dogs had been off. About 7 inch chunks of his flesh.
09:02:06 And, Swin did not render him made or you know bandage him or do anything and you know was raw and using pus and he came over here because obviously you know, we see the Portangelist
report towns and he was picked up here by the nonprofits.
09:02:32 And That's how we did. And they didn't know when they picked them up because his legs were covered.
09:02:38 But, they discovered it and, you know, so one of, your, guys, are guys, saved as luck really.
09:02:48 And he's gonna be on his way into treatment. But, I want to say that, you know, there's like, a list of 7 things that police officers have a duty to provide and one of them
is medical aid.
09:03:02 And so, and they did not even bother to do anything at all and they knew because he was in jail.
09:03:11 So, they send him on his way and you have a duty to protect the public because help law enforcement officers and health care workers are protected.
09:03:24 You know, by law from discrimination in their jobs and out in the community and the public is not. And we certainly are not and we don't make the policies or the public see
decisions.
09:03:37 So dad, that voice, I'm good on you guys. You'd save somebody's life.
09:03:44 He's on his way to treatment. And so then I wanna zoom out a little bit and I wanna talk about transparency and you know the first day of Obama's thing was he wanted to tell
all the agencies I want transparency well that means also being honest about your failures.
09:04:04 And so if you're honest about your failures. What it does is it increases the trust out of the community when you can openly talk about what you don't think you did a good job
on and what you can do better on.
09:04:22 And also it helps in terms of the problem of homelessness is not going away. Yeah, please, man.
09:04:27 Yeah. And so what I want to say is, you know, get, and down in California, they are opening up a hundred 84 units of these tiny village homes.
09:04:39 They just opened up 94, they're opening up 80 in a month. For a total of a hundred 84 and it can be done the government and, did it, months, in, in, let's, in, in, in, in, in,
in, in, zoom, on, channel, they did it in Denver.
09:04:57 We built beloved community and You know, there's, you know, you first in Austin, so don't bury your head in the sand.
09:05:06 Mr. Okay.
09:05:13 Hi guys, Gordon, KING,
09:05:18 Since Washington State. Good. Let's say this allowed free holding of shellfish farming.
09:05:30 Tide means to promote the farming of, and the associated economic benefit. Comes along with that. The, that I work for, they started farming shelters, 130 years ago.
09:05:49 And have been Strong community supporters. Over that time. Sharpage farming has been an important source of real jobs and counties where industrial and urban development is
not polluted the water so badly.
09:06:07 That juvenile shelters can't survive. Or that the the the animals themselves are unsafe to eat.
09:06:20 The shellfish industry. Has and continues to work hard. But I'm included healthy marine waters.
09:06:28 Claims of damage caused by shellfish farming are not backed by scientific studies.
09:06:35 The same cannot be said for the damage caused by our plan, development, which. Sounds of studies clearly showed.
09:06:43 Causing damage, to, marine environment.
09:06:51 You might wonder why. It is a concern about just having a public hearing. For the conditional use payment.
09:07:00 We all acknowledge that it is important for GUIDA. Farms and required by state regulation. To have a Cdp but there's various types of CUPs.
09:07:10 And the problem with a, The problem with public hearing is it takes a lot more resources. And the companies that just had a shop that I worked for.
09:07:21 We have a lot of experience in public hearing and we can survive. But small farmers can't. And Commissioner Dean is familiar with this.
09:07:31 Had never wanted us to even be an upland. Small If you allow for. Public, and conditional newspaper.
09:07:42 More conditional use. Permits for. With public hearing for GUI. Aquaculture, you will be preventing, small growers and startups from.
09:07:55 From being able to. To get into the business. And then most of what you That we're hearing this load of rubbish anyway.
09:08:05 Just as, if you read many of the comment letters. That we've had on G that farming over the last couple of years.
09:08:13 It's speculation and then if somebody has science which disagrees with them. They say, well, it's old science.
09:08:19 Well. Maybe it's on science but I'm happy to find out that compared to no science.
09:08:26 Anyway, thank you.
09:08:29 Please, it raised here on Zoom. You know, let's, by comments and we'll, offer you the opportunity to be promote as a panelist.
09:08:40 And then you take it down. So I'm not sure.
09:08:47 Right.
09:08:55 Welcome, Lisa. You can unmute yourself and you'll have 3.
09:09:02 Good morning. I, my name is Lisa Carlton Long. I live in Jackson County. In fact, I have a couple of homes in Jefferson County.
09:09:11 So, today. I'm acting as a citizen of Jefferson County that is in support for shellfish growers.
09:09:21 I. Realize that shellfish bars have been here in Jefferson County for over a hundred years. We've owned the property.
09:09:31 That we work and we are at we are farmers. We are with so Washington State. Agriculture and the farm bureau.
09:09:45 We are members of all of those different committees. We just have a different way of having to harvest and grow our crops.
09:09:55 We employ. Over 32, 33 people now and a large member of those groups. They do travel outside of the county because it's too expensive here in Jefferson County and lack of, homes
for them to live in.
09:10:15 But I've had several people for now, 11 years traveling in and out of Jefferson County and working with us because they do make very good money.
09:10:26 During COVID. We kept all our employees working, working very hard. We took 6 months of their pay and we divided it into figuring out how much they were making hourly.
09:10:40 Some of our workers were making 55, $60 an hour and we put them to work picking up.
09:10:47 Oyster drills out in the bay to try and get rid of them all. And they would gather up 5 buckets of oyster drills and.
09:10:57 Get paid that kind of money to do so.
09:11:02 Also took out all of the creosote racks that were here in, that had been out there.
09:11:09 In the waters for oh I think from the sixties. And they are all now all gone. So Rock Point is very.
09:11:20 Hardworking and trying to keep our waters clean in here in Jefferson County. We are good players. We are not bad players.
09:11:30 As some people We're kind of speculating last week's meeting. We care about our waters.
09:11:42 We care about Jefferson County. We help. With beach clean ups with the young storage group.
09:11:49 With Nature Conservancy with DNR, with Department official Wildlife, and with our own.
09:11:56 And a lot of the garbage that is taken off the bay is from the public. Not from the farmers.
09:12:02 So anyway, I thank you for listening and. I am in support of shellfish farmers.
09:12:15 Thank you.
09:12:11 As a home owner of Jefferson County. Thank you.
09:12:19 Who else in the Zoom room would like to provide public comment? Please hit raise hand the bottom of screen.
09:12:28 Anyone else?
09:12:33 Leave it open for a few more minutes. Any responses? And my fellow wishers? Hmm.
09:12:47 Sure. I'll go. Appreciate. The comments as always to Gordon and Lisa.
09:12:53 I appreciate you. It's not on the agenda this week, of course, but we're looking to it and I.
09:12:59 I think I reflected that I do know. The cost that public hearing have or small businesses through previous. Regulatory, questions that we've considered.
09:13:09 So I do hear you and I hear Lisa as well and, I look forward to being able to wrap this up.
09:13:19 And I, you know, I understand. And to Maggie, I'm sorry about the gentleman.
09:13:23 I'm, you know, It's always, I guess. It's nice when it's not our municipalities that are, you know, screwing up.
09:13:31 So I appreciate the props and You've got a render age. So that they can, you know, they, they have protection.
09:13:49 Support with all of the resources that we can bring to bear. So I will say I do think that we have you listed a lot of kind of alternative options to shelters the different
groups of public and private agencies have done.
09:14:06 You know, Austin, it's a faith-based, you know, kind of master plan resort essentially.
09:14:13 And I think we really try to do that with Caswell Brown and, you know, we are a small municipality compared to the, I would say probably the smallest county in California.
09:14:26 You're not able to do back and forth. I can't even hear. No, no, I can hear you, Maggie, because, I appreciate it.
09:14:35 I just said we're, you know, I agree. Those are good models and ones that we've tried to emulate here and tried to push forward and it's never enough because This problem is
larger than Jefferson County. It's larger than Washington.
09:14:46 It's a it's a nationwide problem and that worldwide problem right now and we. Keep doing what we can and it doesn't make it any easier and it doesn't make the impacts of failure
any.
09:14:55 Slider but yeah just keeps holding on so I appreciate you being here.
09:15:03 I don't have a lot to add a separate. To the off culture industry. I mean, I grew up in a small commercial fishing family, you know, one boat.
09:15:14 And I know that. The budget every month is tight on time and money. As a commercial fishing family and I imagine that it's the same for small selfish aquaculture operators.
09:15:28 Your comments resonate with me, Gordon. So. I mean, I've, I don't need to say more on that, front.
09:15:37 And you know I would spend some time doing some reading this week in preparation for one of our sessions later today and What one thing that strikes me about the housing homelessness.
09:15:52 Jobs All these issues that are interconnected is how there are all these new legal decisions being made and we're constantly doing hetchup.
09:16:03 Or waiting for the next decision to be made. So it's interesting as we as we march through these.
09:16:09 Processes there are state decisions which we are, agents of the state that we're kind of waiting for as we make decisions in the interim.
09:16:19 And it seems, that just seems really tricky and challenging to me. So I look forward to our future conversations on these issues and I appreciate you being here, Maggie, every
week.
09:16:29 So. Raise up the issues of the moment and the community. So I don't have anything else to add.
09:16:36 Okay. Oh, I don't have much else either. I will.
09:16:41 I don't know if I've confessed this in this room before, but I was, especially a labor enforcement agent.
09:16:50 Did you know this about me? No, I don't think so. Giving way on my secrets.
09:16:54 Worked for labor and industries and actually had a badge to enforce labor law and worked it with the agricultural community exclusively.
09:17:05 I was working on a very specific project. I didn't like, you know, I wasn't going out and busting people that I had to have the certain authority for my position and.
09:17:15 What I learned was how. How migratory the farm worker population is and I think that's 1 of the challenges in us kind of understanding the economic.
09:17:30 Impact of the shellfish industry. That a lot of the folks who. Were picking oysters are also picking brush out on the West End part of the year and then they might go over to
farms, they're also picking brush out on the West End part of the year and then they might go over to farms and sketch it and you know we were we were trying to kind of keep track of
who was
09:17:47 where and So when I got into economic development work, I realized just how, you know, it's just a, it's a tricky population to track to track employment numbers.
09:17:55 You know, they exist, but I think there's a lot more activity that goes on than we really understand.
09:18:02 You know, it doesn't help that they're often working. You know, it doesn't help that they're often working, pre dawn, it doesn't help that they're often working, pre dawn hours
and, you know, with the tides and, so I was just.
09:18:14 Kind of, I was surprised. I lived in this community in Pulsing for many years at this point and to learn what a large labor force there was working.
09:18:21 On the peninsula was, it was really eye opening for me. So. I've heard it to flash.
09:18:27 I did have 2 once. Yeah, somebody did not want to let me on their farm. Yeah.
09:18:36 Yeah, it's interesting. That's good. You got a comment. I wanted to respond to you anyway.
09:18:48 I think. So yeah, more to come. Shirley Master program. We do not have a date for the hearing.
09:18:58 I don't believe, or for next steps. Yeah, so stay tuned. We'll announce that as soon as we get it figured out.
09:19:08 I was thinking about you this weekend. I spent much of the weekend working on a, Appropriation, federal appropriation request for the new shelter.
09:19:17 Facility and. Just, you know, so aware of the.
09:19:25 Kind of day-to-day struggles and you eliminated one. For us here today. And so really hope that we can get this final gap funding so you can start construction on a new facility
and be able to provide.
09:19:41 More services in one permanent facility. Instead of the, this kind of endless, the 8 years I've been here, it's just been.
09:19:52 This fear of losing a shelter downtown and we're at a crisis point again right now so very much on my mind and fingers crossed, on the funding front.
09:20:05 Alright, I'll open it back up to the public. Anyone like to provide public comments?
09:20:12 It's had raised hand.
09:20:21 One.
09:20:23 Yeah, I'm gonna close public comments so if anyone wishes to speak Please raise your hand.
09:20:32 Okay, seeing none, close public comment. And let's take a look at the consent agenda.
09:20:42 Yeah.
09:20:49 Let me see.
09:20:53 Official, 4,000 leaders still our official paper. Even with a new editor.
09:21:05 Gotta, you know. It's not an easy road hoe. Independent local journalism.
09:21:14 Independent paper standing. You know, we've talked about Karl Hansen kind of stepping away from many of the roles.
09:21:24 He was the ID. Intellectual and developmentally disability advisory board chairs for a long time and think he's going to do some work with Clown Bay Correctional and lots of
good stuff out there.
09:21:38 So, Sorry to lose him, but I know he's still doing lots of good work.
09:21:41 Is that a particular? Role that on that board that needs to be built? Community member.
09:21:55 There's, some increased funding for ID in the legislature this year. So we're getting a transition to work, in the legislature this year. So we're getting a transition to work
staff member.
09:22:06 There's going to be an additional staff member. We're getting a transition to work staff member. There's going to be an additional staff member in public health.
09:22:09 I mean, from that.
09:22:11 Good to see Vicky Norris again. Introduced me to the drink the Beijing, which I really like.
09:22:20 Oh, nice. We'll serve them at our library breakfast. If it was anything but booze in it, there could be a non-alcoholic.
09:22:31 I don't know.
09:22:33 Forward to same, Nelson videos that gave this going to public health.
09:22:41 Continuing. Yeah. Yeah. I'm happy to move that we.
09:22:48 Approve and adopt the consent agenda as presented. Okay, any further discussion? All those in favor say aye.
09:22:59 Consent agenda is proved. Not really. You made some good jokes about the ordinance ordnance of public health last week.
09:23:06 I appreciate it. For the health, joke. So thanks for, you know, and I'll need to contribute to the printing humor.
09:23:15 Okay. All right, shall we look back at our weeks? I. Hi, Julia, I close public comments but because we have time there is no reason not to reopen it and have you come over.
09:23:38 So. Bring over for public comment.
09:23:42 Okay.
09:23:55 Hello.
09:23:54 Hi. I, sorry, I assume you stayed open till 9 30, but I only have a question is like I want to know the nature of the workshop on the shelter at 3 o'clock this afternoon like
Can I show up and listen to this or, what are you going to be discussing that type of thing?
09:24:15 I'm just curious what that is.
09:24:17 I can speak to that. You of course are always welcome. It's a public workshop.
09:24:22 We'll having to be having an executive session from 1 30 to 45 and then I think we're starting at 3 is that right?
09:24:29 And it will be kind of It'll really be the debrief of the Wednesday meeting that you attended last week, Julia, with, with community health and environmental health.
09:24:40 Really talking about public. Potentials for response to the closing of the shelter ideas to keep it open and everything or kind of still percolating and developing.
09:24:52 So we primarily what, we can do. To, you know, proactively react to the imminent closure of the, shelter.
09:25:02 And they'll be public comment as well. I mean, I say close it. It's You know, it's a mess.
09:25:09 So. Okay, and you will, perhaps see later. Yeah, Julia and Maggie.
09:25:16 Alright, Okay. Let's see. With you guys of course yesterday and I went to the North.
09:25:36 I'm sorry last week last Monday night. With you yesterday. Last Monday, the eighteenth. And then I went to the Northwood Canal Chamber of Commerce meeting.
09:25:47 And it was. Good kind of work. Yeah, it's interesting. Definitely, a lot of lot of plans down south, you know, so we're gonna have to continue some community conversations and
the chamber is really kind of still finding its feet for what is it for how can it provide you know.
09:26:08 Good value choice members. So I think it's a real positive group right now. On Tuesday with, with some, builder out in Port Ludlow.
09:26:19 So, you know, frustrated with the pace of regulatory. The regulatory path and then I bit the quill seen bring in empowered teams, and you know that Holly is leaving to come
to or towns and empower teams which is sad but I do like the approach that they're looking at is less about what education you have and looking more for someone that lives in South
County now.
09:26:44 So just wanna, you know, hey, it's a 3, $2 32 an hour, 40Â HA week job to, to help kids, with prevention and, all the things that the empowered teams coalition does, which is
a lot of fun project usually.
09:26:59 So just want to put it out there anyone in South County who, is interested in this kind of work prevention work for kids, drugs and alcohol.
09:27:07 There's a real good opportunity with public health right now.
09:27:11 And they'll be tag teaming. Polly and all. What's the, we'll be tapped, we'll be tapped, and you can totally hire someone for that lesson.
09:27:21 Great. Missed the budget meeting again, cause the team Jefferson, recompetes everything's percolating along there.
09:27:31 Data is, you know, all the plans are starting to get refined. I'll talk a little bit more.
09:27:34 We met on Friday as well. We had our, internal meeting. On with public health and about the the legion shelter closing that'll get manifested.
09:27:51 You here in this workshop today. Quarter ended school. Spring break. Yeah.
09:28:01 Let's see. Thursday. Board of health This was good. And had the jobs creation meeting.
09:28:13 I think we're all the infrastructure projects where we compete are pretty solidify, still trying to figure out how to move them into the narrative, but so it's the 4 that kind
of where we're there before and it's really where there's fluidity in the projects is the workforce development and barrier removal.
09:28:31 I did push my chat bot that I created job job which is a burial removal chat bot I think it was received well.
09:28:41 So today I create that for you. Use it. It's a You can use it over the phone.
09:28:46 So you could just call it up and it'll help you connect services. Still needs to get programmed with all this specific services that you want to do, but it was just trying to
get ahead of the height.
09:28:57 Mark. Article on my desk this morning about the, the hype cycle of a, chat box.
09:29:05 Yeah. That's the hype cycle. We are? Yeah, it's no, there's a lot of hype and there's a lot of fear, but there's a applications where I think it could be directly applicable.
09:29:16 My basic pitch was, you know, we're looking at these resource hubs that and put Angelus and Port Townsend and Squim where people can come in and connected to the existing resources
and DCYF, working connections, childcare and everything.
09:29:30 And Seems like everyone has a phone in their pocket. So if they can make phone call and get the same connection and, you know, something that will be a soft on ramp.
09:29:41 It seems like it will. Get to those places that are often, The basic argument. Only cap Thursday evening.
09:29:53 Tam is doing a great job. I'm We're still like, there's this, I'm doing this, trying to get logged back onto this HUD.
09:30:03 Real estate reactant thing to do, this one small Grant drop and it's incredibly frustrating to keep I couldn't do the form because the forms only for new coordinators and I
was a previous coordinator.
09:30:15 So they just cancelled it. So I opened a ticket and a week later I get a, you know, instructions.
09:30:19 Oh, you need to do this. So we'll close this ticket and you need to do this.
09:30:22 So I did exactly your word my letter on the letter heard exactly with all the information they provided. They said, okay, it'll take a week and then over the weekend I get a
note says, oh, you didn't have this bit of information.
09:30:31 So we're closing this and you can't it's just It's like one of these bureaucracies that has got obviously.
09:30:38 Interlocking tech systems that don't interface well, that are probably legacy systems that, you know, they do what they do and they just don't interface with it.
09:30:48 It's so frustrating. So I'm doing that. Maybe your chat back and fix that.
09:30:55 You know, it's the way I read this great book, Recoding America by Jennifer Polka that talks a lot about this.
09:31:02 And it's often the tech problems are really policy problems and creating how the tech gets created, you know, and it's a.
09:31:10 Tech problems are off usually bureaucratic problems.
09:31:17 Then, Behavioral Health Consortium, had that quick meeting to consider pursuing a grant.
09:31:24 And just kind of talking it through with different stakeholders. I, yeah, don't know if we're gonna do it yet.
09:31:33 Had a quick meeting with Diamond, from the healthier together as we get ready for our task force.
09:31:40 Still no district 3 applicants for the task force, but. Manning district too. Yeah, lots of good district too and district one applicant.
09:31:47 So I think there's There's, I'm excited about the work coming up.
09:31:53 So I'm gonna have to make a few phone calls. I got a couple of people that expressed interest, but then having applied so I think I need to call them and say hey I'm pretty
sure you're gonna Get this plum roll if you decide to apply.
09:32:05 So. And then, you know, kind of a long weekend, selling my birthday and lots of good fun with the family and what'd you do?
09:32:15 Sorry, Nico case down in Olympia. Yeah, she was fantastic and, and, and just kinda built a fence.
09:32:23 It was just, it was a good productive weekend. So. Beautiful weather. Good day for an outdoor pool.
09:32:30 You know, yeah, awesome. Let's see, looking back. I guess. I think I would generally just reflect on.
09:32:44 Caregiving. It's a never really been in this. Position and hope to never be in it again but
09:32:54 You never know what's coming. So every day is a new adventure. Yeah, so threaded amongst all of that newness and adventure.
09:33:07 On Tuesday after being here with you on Monday, I had a early morning check-in with Dwayne Emmons from DNR.
09:33:14 I think I'd mentioned in a previous meeting that in the legislative session they Pass to 15 million dollar proviso for continued continuing on from the work that we did with
the 83 million dollar the 15 million dollar proviso is partially for encumbered lands counties and partially for acquiring more acres of structurally complex.
09:33:42 For us, none in Jefferson. No, no, independence, mostly. And Thursday and peers, know how much county so other counties that were interested in seeing some of their structurally
complex acres protected.
09:33:55 And then, but I had heard in the previous week that Jefferson County had been pulled out of the encumbered lands language.
09:34:04 And I was like, that Jefferson County had been pulled out of the encumbered lands language in that proviso.
09:34:07 And I was like, huh, that's interesting. And so I call, I called a few people and I finally was like, I just gotta talk to DNR.
09:34:12 So Dwayne and I had a conversation. And he said, yeah, it was interesting when we pulled the acreage.
09:34:16 Of state forest transfer trust lands that were encumbered in all the counties. Jefferson County only had 73 acres.
09:34:25 Of our trust, the county trust lands. So there are many more. Thousands of acres in the common school construction trust in Jefferson County that are encumbered by Marble, and
spotted out.
09:34:38 But of the state first transfer trust, it was only 73 acres and that's why we were pulled out of the encumbered lands, this time, which makes sense to me.
09:34:48 So, but the proviso did pass. Yeah, 15 million. It was 60 and then it was 30 and then it was 15.
09:34:56 So, 15 million dollars passed. And did you ever find out about the, the Quinalt?
09:35:02 Project? That's it was a proviso for a big force. But I hear what the outcome of that was.
09:35:08 It did pass and I'm just so curious where it originated and I think the Nature Conservancy, right?
09:35:16 Yeah, I mean, that's what I heard initially. When it was introduced. Yeah, so curious where that, so I haven't heard a lot from the Nature Conservancy in the last year or 2.
09:35:30 They vested some, I think, from the West End. And they haven't been involved in the any of the work groups I'm on.
09:35:37 You know, they were originally very involved in the trust and transfer work group and they haven't had any staff on any of those so I don't I haven't been engaged with them
as well either but that's what I heard when that, that, that, that, that, all, all, all, came up.
09:35:52 So, but I can find out for sure. then. Still Tuesday morning had a call with Pinky regarding a property and Chim that has some code compliance issues but also has a lot of work
going on and they want to do some They need to do some revenue generation and.
09:36:16 Thank you and I were just kind of troubleshooting how to. Thread the needle between the code compliance progress and authorizing them to do some other activities on their land.
09:36:27 So it's always an interesting. Dance. That has to be done, right?
09:36:35 And then I spent the afternoon getting ready for the evening drainage just the last of our first 3 Seem like I'm drainage district focus group meetings and this was definitely
the best of the 3.
09:36:47 The first one kind of stumbled on technical issues. The second one. I felt like we didn't get to what we were trying to get to which was having individual landowners identifying
problem areas on their properties.
09:37:02 But in this last session we had a lot of folks probably 50 people there. And a lot of good, conversation in the room and I felt like we actually left.
09:37:13 Last Tuesday evening with a sense of support for the drainage district from members of the Ag community. And, we'll just have to, we're gonna do a survey, a postcard and a survey
out to all the landowners in the Drainage District.
09:37:31 To try and get a sense of where the entire land ownership, folks are at. And then we're gonna do another focus group.
09:37:41 Kind of to report out on what we learned from that survey. So, remind myself the. The boundaries of the D drainage district still exist because we haven't we didn't shut it
down so it's just it's inactive.
09:37:55 As it develops, is it possible to change it if there's like some people are like, Oh, we're upland and we're a house, we don't care about it or is it.
09:38:05 Is that a difficult? How that gets done. If we, to change the boundaries. So let's see, I feel like that process has been going well though.
09:38:23 Wednesday budget meeting with y'all. And then I had a, Meeting and walk with one of the forest activists just to check in on the legislative session and kind of what's next
and I feel like we're it's interesting.
09:38:41 I feel like I'm working on this for stuff a lot over the last couple of years and we're just getting started.
09:38:46 It's Yeah, the conversation is getting more interesting as time goes by.
09:38:54 And then Wednesday late afternoon, I had a community foundation gathering. To talk about board recruitment and.
09:39:03 Kind of priorities and the upcoming kind of couple of years and I feel like I really, I really appreciate the group.
09:39:13 My, the co word of us are involved with the community foundation. Is really looking to the future and trying to figure out how to tune our activities to what the community needs
are and I appreciate those conversations with a super smart group of Mostly women we did our board on the board recruitment committee and we did our survey of our existing board members
and where the gaps were.
09:39:40 It's men. They have one, gentleman on our. Board. Yeah, so.
09:39:46 Stay tuned for for Asks for help on that. Let's see, Thursday morning I did a walk and talk with Aaron Berg in the port.
09:39:57 And. He's got some ideas about the airport and so I have some calls to make to Josh at DCD and just can find out what's possible but you know there's interest in Jefferson Timber
Collective inciting themselves at the airport.
09:40:18 And Aaron and I had a long conversation about that and there are a few ideas. Yeah, I have the same conversation with there already. Aaron provided materials that I gave to
Josh. I do talk to Eric Taves.
09:40:34 And sort of. So Eric's doing some work. And then I attended the Timber County's caucus for the first half of it before joining you guys at the Board of Health meeting.
09:40:50 And Friday I met with the candidate for state rep, entertaining, interesting, was someone I hadn't met.
09:40:58 And then I spent the afternoon much of the afternoon driving around with Brent again in the phase one. UGA boundary and headlock and meeting with some folks at Bayside about
the Sherat's coming up in April and May and it just seems like there's a lot of work going on right now around the.
09:41:20 Well, I think Brent's kind of mission is. Middle housing right But there's also just so the nexus with them, the sewer development and kind of the visioning process for the.
09:41:33 Okay, one. So, interesting conversations there. And I think that wrapped up my.
09:41:43 County work last week. Yeah, I did find a little information about the 25 million dollars.
09:41:54 So that Nature and CERVENCe did partner with the this is spending from the natural planet solutions account to support the buy back of 11,000 acres of course land within the
reservation that fell into private ownership during the allotment era.
09:42:10 This project would allow for over 3 million additional metric tons. Carbon to be stored across the Klan nations lands over the next 20 years.
09:42:18 Yeah, so they got the full 25. Yeah. Alright, last week spent a lot of time on the.
09:42:28 Federal preparations. So, Steve King of the city did a lot on the male road one, but still.
09:42:35 Have some time invested there with our. Our delegation and some group meetings with all the project proponents.
09:42:46 Looks good. Got our district staffers up to speed on our 2 requests and priorities. See had a association of counties bylaws committee meeting still trying to structure the
organization to keep everybody on board.
09:43:05 Seems to be. Going pretty well so far. Simple missionaries are still at the table.
09:43:11 So. More to come there. Budget meeting on Wednesday morning, not a lot to report there. Starting to see.
09:43:22 Decline in sales tax curious if that's gonna hold or if it's just a a normal variation.
09:43:29 So it's under budget, but still higher than last year. So hard to say if that's really.
09:43:36 You know decreasing but A little bit on that. Jefferson transit connection plan, doing some review and, interview with the consultants working on that.
09:43:54 See. Totally spaced by child care team meeting. It's just too wrapped up in the writing, the information request.
09:44:04 Unfortunately let's see. Yeah, my whole week is like Kaswell Brown. Kaswell Brown.
09:44:12 Certified the presidential primary on Thursday and Friday. Okay. Had a lot that having to.
09:44:23 Reject 420. Wow. 30 ballots.
09:44:30 It was like bar the most confusing ballots. It only happens every 4 years and then it keeps changing.
09:44:35 So almost all of the rejections were because of. People not choosing the same part, you know, not doing a declaration at the party and signing that on the back or that their
party declaration on the envelope didn't match the vote.
09:44:52 Some people declared both parties. Some a lot declared none. And in some of those cases.
09:45:02 Because if there's either no signature or no party affiliation, they were contacted and asked to come and update their balance so that it could be counted.
09:45:11 The fire most did not. So I was wondering what was gonna happen based on the number of personal phone calls I was getting on the number of personal phone calls I was getting
on what to do.
09:45:25 In any way, what do I do with this? You, you indicate a party and then you vote for your candidate of that party, you know, but and you follow the instructions like that's the
right is a lot of people you know wanna kinda outsmart the instructions and it just means that their valid doesn't get counted.
09:45:44 It's really too bad. Can choose the party there and then you have to sign an alphabet.
09:45:52 I mean, I don't know. You know, I thought about games, game theory and everything, but I, you know.
09:45:56 Yeah, just went with Marian Williamson like I'm going to in the general. Okay. I knew that she did.
09:46:06 But I, I, I couldn't, sign to a different party for like a game theory. I don't know.
09:46:10 Yeah, yeah. It's a weird process and it is a function of the parties. It's a political party.
09:46:18 So if people don't like it, they don't have to participate. It is not a necessary part of our democracy, but, it is, I get that it's unsatisfied for lots of reasons.
09:46:29 So I found it that satisfied myself. I think people found it confusing to that. Even though, if they followed the instructions, it wasn't confusing, but.
09:46:38 We do we get ranked choice voting? It'll be super confusing. Much better. It's yeah.
09:46:44 And just as usual, you know, seeing a lot of signatures that clearly have just not been updated.
09:46:52 So really encourage people to update their signatures with the auditors. It says to happen at either end of the age spectrum in particular and we want to count as many votes
as possible but And the other thing I have to say, I, you know, I see doing those checks, I see a lot of names of love signatures unmatching of kids I know who are off the college and
they're not sign your
09:47:16 kids valid it doesn't work let's see. Board of Health. Meeting.
09:47:30 Got a great update on the, Spticia program. Yeah. Great work by environmental health.
09:47:36 And then. Meeting on Friday with a junior from Jefferson Healthcare, our kind of monthly walk and talk.
09:47:45 Did the radio show with Wendy Barts? We're largely talking about child care, but realize there's so many things that the Y.M.C.A. has jumped into fully.
09:47:56 Just been really. You know, such strong community partners, think largely because of Wendy's willingness, eagerness to jump in and so talked about the.
09:48:08 Food programs, child care they currently provide and, send a payment project as well as our project, high school.
09:48:17 And so very appreciative. All of her work and They're bounds meeting, trying to hire a, assistant to help with counting fair.
09:48:31 Excuse me, that'll be, posted relatively soon, so. Nobody wants a part time seasonal job hoping.
09:48:37 Hello County Fair. Keep an eye out for that. And then just lots of time working on the Kesel Brown funding request yesterday.
09:48:47 That all finished and then accidentally hit refresh and lost a bell. We created it, right? Yeah, most of it was in the Word documents like.
09:48:57 I know better. I was doing it the smart way, but still I ended up losing some work. So, you know.
09:49:05 And you send it to us. So yeah, we need it over lunch. That would be good.
09:49:11 Yeah. In advance of our conversation this afternoon. Yes, but I feel out of the loop a little bit on that would be good. Yeah, like in advance of our conversation this afternoon.
09:49:19 Yes, because I feel out of the loop a little how would phones feel about recessing a little bit early?
09:49:22 Sure. That I just got the call that I was supposed to get at 10 o'clock. So, if I could return an important call.
09:49:31 So mess you up at all, Caroline, if we recess. Oh, okay. So if you're listening or 80 capture we have trouble sometimes when we hit pause so please.
09:49:45 Okay so if you're listening or 80 capture we have trouble sometimes when we hit pause so please join us on zoom the zoom link is on.
09:49:47 So please join us on zoom. The zoom link is on zoom. The zoom link is on your 80 screen and that won't go away.
09:49:49 The agenda won't go away. So please join us on zoom if we lose you. Alright, let's recess until 10 o'clock.
10:04:05 Seen them all. I'd rather. Are you seeing when you look in laser fish, do you see this is what I see.
10:04:15 Oh. Nothing. And let us who it's 2 but and I can see. We do? Yeah.
10:04:26 I looked at the couple this morning, but not, Okay, I'm gonna restart my computer and see if that helps.
10:04:34 Alright. We are coming back into session. Sorry, my phone call went Yeah. Mark, would you like to do any briefing from last week?
10:04:51 Okay. Monday the eighteenth and here was board. Senior management team meeting at 9. And I joined here, CBS funding conversation.
10:05:06 Okay. You know, very impressive watching you operate. And then 18 meeting at at 2 o'clock.
10:05:14 Kevin and John, we're not in attendance. So, and, and, and, and he took me out onto the newly finished Jenny.
10:05:23 Nice. And that's where we had the conversation about the airport. Business business parking. Additional things they'd like to see accomplished there.
10:05:34 On the twentieth, budget, followed by one on one with Josh Piers. I attended the enforcement committee meeting.
10:05:48 Substantial discussion about the encampment policy and. And then of course I think you might have seen that, from.
10:06:02 And I attended the ARPA.
10:06:08 What's that check in? Apparently there are a number of companies that are having difficulty obligating all their HP.
10:06:26 Thursday, it's 1 of one with Brent. We have lunch with Chief Black. And we had a good discussion about.
10:06:35 Should relationships, now that, and Brad Tracer has come to the county and maybe our deputy fire marshal and the fact that we need to update our 24 tune and what we think we'll
do is have a 3 way with the city of the county and East Jefferson fire at some point.
10:07:01 So looking forward to that. And then Julia, Carolyn, and I met with, I met with Judy and Carolyn to go over that.
10:07:09 Budget in advance of the appropriation. And then agenda review with Kate and Caroline for.
10:07:21 Friday. Not with Josh and Brent. Sure, a synchronize, branch activities.
10:07:28 But Josh, and then, then a call regarding the shelter closure.
10:07:37 In preparation for today's activities and Then Josh and I, review the DCD budget and, when we bring in a supplemental appropriation to the board.
10:07:52 For you to consider. And that was my week.
10:07:57 Nice. Shall we look ahead? Sure. I can go first.
10:08:06 First a reminder that I am leaving on Saturday for a week long vacation. I'll be gone all next week, but can.
10:08:16 Yeah join Monday morning if there's stuff that needs to happen.
10:08:21 I will be missing the in person. Second, in person recompete meeting. So if anyone wants to spend.
10:08:29 4Â h at the Peninsula College next Wednesday under the third, let me know. But this week, I, what do we do?
10:08:38 Got, that was done. I'm actually meeting Bruce Eaton about Glenn.
10:08:46 To check their office out. And then EDC Finance Committee Tuesday late morning. And then there's a NODC has put on a with the PNNL.
10:08:59 Port Townsend Roundtable on marine renewable energy. So. As you know, they've been talking about this for a while.
10:09:08 Tidal energy but the you know, I don't know it comes up and then it fades away that.
10:09:17 Conversation usually adds and flows. Yeah. And then on Wednesday, the team Jefferson, we compete and then, Wednesday afternoon.
10:09:35 Our recompete coordinator Una who is on board now with Palm County is gonna come out to the boat school first and I'm gonna join for a tour of the boat school on their spring
break and then we're coming over to a port.
10:09:47 Boat yard tour with her and everything that the local team and some of the grant writers. I will have to leave early there to come and share the housing fund board.
10:09:59 Which I'll actually be in person for, thankfully. And then, I don't know, I've got a bit of a conflict with the rescheduled Jefferson County quarterly meet up that I was going
to do that you had another appointment a couple of weeks ago, hiding not that it's on any one of our calendars only, but it's been rescheduled.
10:10:15 And I can. The 20 seventh. Enjoying after after.
10:10:25 Virtually I can join after. The housing fund board. I can also join after the Empowered Teams Coalition, so I can take that back.
10:10:37 On Thursday, I'm gonna skip Jeff Calm, I think, and go to, some Jefferson search and rescue training up on Hurricane Ridge.
10:10:47 So I'll probably miss the. The monthly meeting of NODC as well. I love Karen, no.
10:10:52 I did participate in the agenda clump planning. Then on Friday, I think I'm up for KPTZ.
10:10:59 I'm sorry, did I trade that for? No, I think I'm up. And then, I have a weekly call with, dynamic date now as we kinda get ready for the task force going the healthier together
task force.
10:11:09 And then we have our weekly. North Olympic Peninsula Recompete Coalition Meeting.
10:11:15 And then getting back together with the behavioral health consortium for the go no go choice on that grant application.
10:11:22 For $250,000 but I think there's it might not be enough to justify, you know, I don't know, like it's kind of marginal, whether it would be worth it, the chance of getting the
grants.
10:11:37 The administration of it for. We're not quite with service, show service. Basically, if it's training, it's probably worthwhile, my opinion.
10:11:46 And if we're talking about onboarding new. Substance use services probably not with them.
10:11:53 And that is my coming week and then Saturday morning. I get on a plane really. Where you going in?
10:12:00 What? Living vicariously? Yeah, people. Yes, I've planned vicariously through other people.
10:12:09 So I don't really know where I'm going, but I believe it's Mexico. Right.
10:12:14 Can we talk a little bit about that Wednesday April third?
10:12:19 So, Wednesday the third, it's gonna be in person at noon at Peninsula College.
10:12:26 Free parking for the day and i think we'll be getting our information back from west sound.
10:12:36 Network so a lot of the research that peninsula college has been commissioning. So a lot of the research that Peninsula College has been commissioning and some that, so a lot
of the research that Peninsula College has been commissioning and some that, so that data is supposed to be back, which will really inform the.
10:12:44 The barrier, a removal conversation and kind of what that side of the, you know, which is a little squishier than that, than the company projects, what that will look like is
gonna start kind of.
10:12:53 The sprint starts then when we get the data. So that's the idea. I would be interested in attending.
10:13:01 What about you and I did? I'm happy to defer to you. I have a conflict at 4.
10:13:07 No, it would be great to have someone there. So, man, it will probably be going. There's lots of powerful options.
10:13:16 Cindy, you know, team. I think Eric Paves is on vacation too, so I'm not sure who will be going from Port of Port Town, but maybe, Amanda is really knowledgeable.
10:13:28 Right. So I just, I don't wanna miss speak or misrepresent. Yeah, Yeah. No, you can.
10:13:35 I mean if you bring any food and make sure it's up to quality you know. Okay. Be careful, Stacey.
10:13:56 Maybe you can get the husband to pick for you. That happens too sometimes. So I've heard of that.
10:14:02 The I have a conflict that I can probably move so let's plan on. Awesome.
10:14:14 I have something on my calendar that day. Climate survey in Chimicum. Why I think I will remember these cryptic notes.
10:14:24 She. Hmm, okay. Alright, looking ahead to me feels like, I don't know what the right metaphor is, but.
10:14:41 Okay, so. Let's see. .
10:14:49 That's thinking weekend. Okay, next week.
10:14:55 Hmm, next week on the second we have our regularly scheduled Marine Resources Committee meeting and I think as I estimated months ago with the departure of Monica, Montgomery.
10:15:11 Sarah Fisk and Lesser Heart is holding, holding the ship together. Just trying to retire.
10:15:18 You know, so we're looking for a new. Wsu is hiring for that position, but that's in progress still.
10:15:25 I feel like flying a little closer to MRC right now is a good thing to be supportive of the team.
10:15:31 And Wednesday at the Jefferson County incident management team meeting, which I think I said at the first of the year that I was interested in going to those.
10:15:41 So. Here I am going to one. Thursday morning is the 0 3 a council of governments meeting.
10:15:51 And then the afternoon is the Jefferson County Parks and Recreation Advisory Board meeting.
10:15:58 Okay, my first one back on the Parks and Record. And then. Friday we have a forestry meeting with Mallory in the afternoon.
10:16:10 And I have myself on the . The April. I'm definitely not doing that. So that must be me Yeah, I know that day too.
10:16:21 Okay, great.
10:16:22 No, I will think of something titillating for that. I'm not gonna have KPTZ this week.
10:16:31 I gotta think still. Did I look at this week for you guys? Or did I just skip the next?
10:16:40 Okay, so this week. We have our first board of health subcommittee meeting for the. Oh, the issues that we started talking about the last board health meetings? Because I know.
10:16:56 I got an invite from Pinky at 2 o'clock tomorrow. 20 sixth. Oh yeah, there it is.
10:17:02 Yeah, no, I'm going to that too. Basic sanitation. Yep. I'll be a little late for that. I don't know.
10:17:10 I'd be late for that. Renewable energy. Okay. And then the community foundation board meeting in the evening.
10:17:21 Wednesday we have, I have the Chinaman Power Teens Coalition and the rescheduled.
10:17:28 Quarterly health and human service.
10:17:33 Coordinators, collaborators, the WSU, Tanya Barnett meeting that's always awesome.
10:17:41 It's just a big. They ground table of folks sharing what they're doing and where they need help from each other, which I feel like is a really valuable.
10:17:49 Sharing that happens and you're planning to go to that. I'll go after empowered teams.
10:17:55 I'll leave empower teams a little early. I'll be a little late to that.
10:18:01 Wednesday, and my first meeting of the law library board of trustees for the county.
10:18:07 And. Thursday afternoon as a solid waste advisory committee meeting. Is that a new one?
10:18:15 A lot of library board of trustees. Yeah, there's always been a commissioner. On the the county law library or never heard of this.
10:18:25 And Brandon reached out and said. Was I interested in being on the library? I was assuming you talked to you guys as well.
10:18:36 You made it up. Maybe I said out loud and meetings, I'm a library net, which I have.
10:18:42 So I don't know. That probably was it. So if you've heard me say that.
10:18:46 So yeah. That's a new one. Swack Thursday afternoon. Democrats meeting Thursday evening.
10:18:54 Hoping to hoping to receive the endorsement of the Jeffrey County Democrats from My potential bid for County Commissioner before 5 and week.
10:19:13 And then the most exciting event of the week is that my eighth grader, my goddaughter, is doing her eighth grade presentation.
10:19:22 So. Super excited to attend. Headaches, Does she suffer migrants? Yeah.
10:19:34 And then I had the Washington risk pool conference on my calendar, but I'm not going to that.
10:19:40 Are you going to that? Just virtual. And then I also have Greg's vacation on my calendar and I'm not going to that.
10:19:53 So yeah Greg is the NODC, energy event. Is that open to the public?
10:20:03 That is open to the public.
10:20:09 Round table one. Let me just double check. Okay. Let's see.
10:20:18 So tomorrow, I don't have anything until the afternoon. Housing, no, sorry.
10:20:24 That's Wednesday. Tomorrow I'm meeting with Tom Tears to talk about the Ferry Advisory Committee and, the recommended language change that we like, Wesack to take on as their
legislative work.
10:20:38 And he has been working on that issue for a long time with the different advisory committees. So some great input.
10:20:44 And then have the Jefferson Transit Climate Action Plan. Team meeting tomorrow afternoon. Wednesday.
10:20:54 I don't have anything until the housing fun board meeting. So Greg, if there's, you know, if you want me to.
10:20:59 Kick off that meeting, you know, get it started on time and then hand it back to you or whatever.
10:21:05 Yeah. Okay. Our child care group meeting.
10:21:16 I think that one, that was cancelled. Well, I'm not sure. And then a gender review and nothing on Friday.
10:21:24 I have a shockingly light week. And the following week I am out, Thursday and Friday.
10:21:33 My calendar.
10:21:36 Something fun I hope. Yeah. Go to Joshua Tree. Oh, I love that desert.
10:21:46 Yeah, excited. Although the forecast isn't great. I love that desert. Yeah, excited. Although the forecast isn't great. So my sixties.
10:21:50 Like, South, I'm significantly warmer than here. But still should be dry and in bloom and Okay.
10:22:01 Alright, Mark.
10:22:04 Alright. So short week.
10:22:11 Today, of course, with the board tomorrow, nothing scheduled to get some contract work done.
10:22:20 No, Wednesday. We have a person on the Teams call. All day. So the family staff.
10:22:33 Let me get questions answered about. And tools that are available to increase productivity and that sort of thing.
10:22:42 So that's really kind of a need deal. So they'll just be on Teams and available to consult at any time of the day.
10:22:52 And then in the middle of all that at 11 o'clock, Willie Ben and I are going to travel to city hall, Yeah, yeah.
10:23:04 Trying to get what we need from the city. And in order to wrap that plan up and get it submitted to the state.
10:23:11 One o'clock meeting with Apple and some of her staff to go over a strategic plan, all the public health tasks.
10:23:19 And then of course, 5 30. And I think that's at the library.
10:23:26 What's that? The. The try area.
10:23:35 Is it the one Brentstone at the library? Yeah.
10:23:40 Thursday. Washington County risk pool starting at 9 30 so I'll be in on account for a half hour.
10:23:49 Okay. We'll give you regrets. Thank you. And the gender review.
10:23:58 On the 20 ninth. Wrap up risk full and then in the afternoon. With, to strategize for upcoming negotiations with FLP corrections and with the central services.
10:24:17 Yeah, that should finish. We go in 2 weeks then. If you're so fine.
10:24:25 Okay. I do have one more conflict I neglected, but there is a intellectual development. And developmental disability advisory board tomorrow at 2 45 that also conflicts with
the marine renewable energy.
10:24:40 I'm sent to note to see if that was public.
10:24:45 26. 2 45.
10:24:56 Zoom. Thank you.
10:25:06 Alright. So, Our day. And it's not public this one.
10:25:21 It's just, industry.
10:25:28 Any priorities to discuss this morning? Oh, one thing, you know, there's been a that letter of support for the whole tribes.
10:25:40 Fire services that's been kind of flying around I think the fire marshal Phil Cassero is gonna write a letter of support but did you guys get that letter?
10:25:49 Tossing our support. I have not.
10:26:05 I think it went to the sheriff's office.
10:26:13 Okay.
10:26:24 The fire, I can just put on the screen. And Phil was gonna send, send this letter, is that right, Mark?
10:26:31 Do you remember? I think you were the one suggested, Phil, to send this letter in. Sure, but you can join in there as well.
10:26:41 Just throw it up real quick.
10:26:56 Hey, went and ended up going to facilities and chairs office kind of the different. Part of the.
10:27:04 The whole government that operates.
10:27:17 I see.
10:27:27 Might wanna change it a little of, Phil sending the same one in. Hmm. I could take a stab at it over the break.
10:27:54 What funds are they playing for? I mean, I think it's like, gradually directed spending. Why this is and this is just that it just came in we sent a different one for them that
was I talked to vice chair Lopez we didn't send that letter okay in support of their congregation when you directed spending.
10:28:16 This ended up coming to Public works and the sheriff's office and we forwarded it through. The fire.
10:28:25 That's spending too though. Confession. Maybe it should say that in a letter.
10:28:33 Okay.
10:28:39 Maybe we fully support this request for.
10:28:44 Allocation from. Verify that that is what they're doing. I mean, that's the assumption that I mean.
10:28:55 The West End. 4 years ago now that's response to fire is a really big concern. Oh yeah. And.
10:29:10 Just. Wait times. Too long to be. Of any use.
10:29:17 Many residents that are not in any fire district. I could see some language about that. Alright, I will take a stab at making some changes over the lunch break and bring it
back.
10:29:30 And Josh is reporting that. Sincere is out of town at a conference. That you send a letter.
10:29:44 That sounds good. Then I won't make that many changes. Add some of that context that we talked about.
10:29:49 Great.
10:30:00 To find. An email I'm not sure if you both got it as well which was the association of counties.
10:30:12 So sample submission form that went out. We will, will submit our.
10:30:27 Let's say, priority requests. For consideration. So these are due.
10:30:38 Friday, April nineteenth. Oh, was that that survey? It's a chat form, but in order for legislative priorities to be considered.
10:30:49 They have to be submitted by them. So we have talked about the.
10:30:57 Changing the language on that specific statue. Oh, regarding the, Okay. Oh, thanks.
10:31:12 So, there's something. The home fund is what they call it. I, I can, I can write up something on that.
10:31:15 Yeah, and then maybe we could discuss the. Language and then, 10 tiers now work I'm with.
10:31:24 Okay, advisory committee language, but is there anything? I guess we should just be thinking about if there are any other requests.
10:31:32 We want to make. You know, I worked last year on the. Lammered proposal that did not get accepted largely because it just seems like the Democrats aren't very interested in
considering.
10:31:46 Any changes? Politically feasible. Yeah. So it's a question if we wanna revive, try and revive that.
10:31:55 File and you know democratic voice is pushing it is the only thing that's ever gonna get listened to so I would say that's worth pushing again.
10:32:04 I appreciate your leadership on that. Yeah, and the members of Los Angeles like it, the staff feel like, you know, don't have us working on stuff that's.
10:32:14 Gonna take a lot of time and isn't gonna be successful. So that's the. Challenge, say, since they kind of push it into the.
10:32:22 No basket. Interesting to know like from Senator Short or someone else. Legislative proponent of it if they feel like, you know, it has a We could revive it.
10:32:38 Yeah, cause a couple bills have passed in recent years. I think it's a bit of a horse training, you know, Republicans get.
10:32:43 Some of what they want. Then, Well. I don't I don't think we need to trade that's the thing.
10:32:57 Republicans need to. Okay. Yeah, but the resistance is within the Democrats. So.
10:33:08 Are there other counties? Thank you. I'm, allegiance with anybody. Is there any other?
10:33:16 Oh, Kelly supported this. They all really liked the proposal. Legislators and future wise that don't.
10:33:22 And therefore Wessex. Right. The loud voices. Yeah, but there might be, you know, certainly.
10:33:31 Tweak it to, you know, try to make it more appealing. That And if you'll remember the.
10:33:36 You know, I was linking getting more density just for housing where, can meet certain environmental right conditions.
10:33:48 Tailoring it too. I know there's still interest. In some of our, you know, our, And I mean, we could specifically put in just affordable housing projects.
10:33:59 It seems like that's getting easier to kind of verify. The state is recognized in more ways of ensuring that.
10:34:06 Link so you could kind of. I know. Put it in a denser area, you know, like affordable housing.
10:34:16 You know. I don't know. It seems like more connections make things more complicated and not less common.
10:34:23 So I don't know if that's a good strategy. Well, no, I think you're looking about in the opening session.
10:34:31 It's a full budget cycle. Beginning of the, so are there any budget capital or operating asks?
10:34:36 I mean, we . Thanks to our legislative delegation. So are there any other efforts that you guys know about.
10:34:49 Yeah, and I think that Aquatic Center was. You know, that on the list of future.
10:35:00 The, requests, but I don't think will be. Ready? You're right.
10:35:06 Yeah. I mean, if, we knew by the end of the year that we were going to.
10:35:12 The ballot saying that maybe. Consider it but it's at this point it seems premature. And we don't need that for Right, that's not on the.
10:35:29 Okay. Timber or national resources? I'm sure there will be, but I. We're still in the midst of our work groups, you know, so I've been coming out of those work groups, there
may be.
10:35:41 Legislated pieces, but we don't we're not there yet. Carbon and and forest work group, right?
10:35:48 Is, we're about halfway through those meetings. Yes, I have a long standing.
10:35:55 Annoyance with the the fact that, text sales tax on gravel is destination based. So it gets you know.
10:36:07 Yeah. So, you know, crush and the fair amount of impact, certainly to roads, heavy, heavy trucks on our roads.
10:36:16 And then all of the. Next goes to the destination, which I've always thought is unfair, but I've been told it's for some reason it's a third rail issue.
10:36:26 Yeah, I'm not touching that. And and I won't be around to be pushing these through.
10:36:39 Make progress on these. So I don't know if that's 1 we wanna consider. It's been very difficult to even get.
10:36:46 To find the where it lives and like I've explored it for a couple of years and just got nowhere.
10:36:54 Some strong lobby that. Doesn't want that touched. Is there anything with the new UGA company online, you know, that we want to be?
10:37:04 From Josh at DC the year. Anything legislative that we need to work on. Rams up. That's more internal, right?
10:37:20 They're busy. I do worry about DCT. It's like the flurry of people trying to get in before the, worry about DCT.
10:37:31 It's like, and then the flurry of people trying to get in before the, international building Yeah.
10:37:36 Okay, well we have till April nineteenth. It doesn't look like a complicated form.
10:37:42 I'll resend this to you guys. The top of your email. Right.
10:37:56 Anything else we want to? Get to this morning.
10:38:03 I'll just let you know that's headboat is off of Cal. Thanks to our colleagues at VNR.
10:38:09 That's been parked there for a couple of months. They were able to get it off last Friday morning.
10:38:15 Excellent. Yeah. We had very little, hand in that. It had been put on, it was the one, the super entertaining.
10:38:27 I felt like an entertaining story with the boat, 83 foot postcards, postcard boat and sunk at the Iron Del Beach.
10:38:34 And the guy had put a bully. So you knew where the boat had sunk. And then he came and tied this tugboat to the buoy.
10:38:43 And then that windstorm 6 weeks ago or. The. The, the, the boat, the tugboat that was tied to the buoy.
10:38:52 Pulled off and pulled the rigging off the 83 foot post guard vessel. And the whole Shitery, excuse my language, watch to shore on the Caliphate beach.
10:39:05 And it's been sitting there over the last 6, 7 weeks, 8 weeks maybe now. So, DNR has been working to get.
10:39:14 All of the, you know, all this goes through all the steps to get it removed and. I woke up.
10:39:21 On Friday morning. With the, with the, text and living in Iron Dale now, right?
10:39:26 Tax from a neighbor saying the tugboat gone. And I'm like, was it you guys or was it the vote owner?
10:39:33 And they said it was us. So, yeah, they're like, that's a Google program.
10:39:39 But that one we wanted to get off the beach before it started to break apart. So done and done.
10:39:45 Right. Well, we don't have any business. We adjourn and have a Hello lunch, we'll have a, I know we're gonna try to adjourn a little bit early this afternoon too, right?
10:39:59 How do you have a start to stop it? 4 4 okay okay Anything else?
10:40:07 Yeah, boards and committees is on there, but. Not. Look through the list now or do it later.
10:40:15 I think we're gonna be busy this afternoon. Yeah.
10:40:20 I heard Caroline saying, I bet you they'll look at boards and committees. So. She knows as well.
10:40:37 Oh, man asked, if someone wanted to go to the connection, Fair coming up. Oh, right.
10:40:44 Thank you. Yeah. Today. And I said I could do a couple of hours.
10:40:54 I had a I have a conflict. At the beginning, I think, April twentieth, is that right?
10:41:00 I'll look at my calendar. So I told Mark and Amanda that I could be there for 2 or 3Â h.
10:41:08 Yeah, so I have a thing in the morning on Marathon, but then after. Noon afternoon, 12 o'clock I can be at the connectivity fair and have it in my calendar.
10:41:23 Who wants to be there? Good morning. I can do the morning since I'm closest. Or no, it's Chimicut.
10:41:32 This year's not. Yeah. It's okay. Have anything on my calendar so I'll do the closing shift.
10:41:42 Okay. I can do. Let me see.
10:41:55 Plus 2 to 4 or something? It was 10 to 4, I think.
10:42:03 I see I have the email.
10:42:06 10 to 4. Yeah. Okay, so.
10:42:13 Sounds good. Yeah, then back to the.
10:42:20 Words and committee.
10:42:25 Looking for people for planning commission talk to PLVC last week I guess it was a couple of weeks ago.
10:42:33 Wait, it says planning commission, no vacancies. Oh, well, there's a district 3 vacancy still.
10:42:42 Conservation Futures District 3. And then.
10:42:59 I see that there's a note about, Sailors, Sailors, Behavior, Health, Inventative Services Organization, Vacancy, but.
10:43:06 I'd say based on my last couple of meetings there they're doing a good job of filling vacancies right now.
10:43:12 So I think we need to. Help yet? District 4 noxious wind boys waiting there for me.
10:43:20 One day when I'm like, I've got more time.
10:43:23 Looks like we're pretty. Staffed up those awesome. Thank you, community. Fun board.
10:43:33 We had one applicant after the deadline. But you know, still should consider. Okay, so 2. Okay.
10:43:41 Okay. Cause there was one in the agenda request. The calendar item was that received a little late.
10:43:50 Right.
10:43:54 I wish. I'm sure doing a better job of getting these to Wendy to promote on Facebook.
10:44:03 Are Wendy? Yeah. This would be a great. Oh, Windy Davis.
10:44:09 Are you promoting on Facebook? I would imagine there could be a number of people interested in having fun board.
10:44:16 To see a better job of getting it out there.
10:44:19 Okay. I have not looked at a legal notice in the newspaper in about 10 years. I'm not sure who does.
10:44:27 Does somebody want to follow up with Wendy? And Got it. Mark, okay. It's away this week, I think.
10:44:34 But yeah, and I've been doing some Facebook posts, let me know.
10:44:52 Yeah, no, it's like it's going pretty well though.
10:44:57 So I don't think we have anything to discuss on boards and committees really. Oh, I did it a long time ago.
10:45:06 I feel like when people ask me that and I'm like, is there more training but I did it out of the gate.
10:45:11 Yeah, comes up again. Oh, don't remind me and I have I have all the state stuff to do now too.
10:45:19 I got all firm by the Senate for. One of my state roles. I have this whole new layer.
10:45:25 So maybe. I said I had a bunch of free time this week. Maybe I'll do it.
10:45:29 Although I have to do the 2, other 2. So, you know, each, each member of Congress has a different, question.
10:45:40 At least you have it saved in a word document, right? Yes. But they ask questions in different, you know, slightly different ways.
10:45:47 So it's still gonna take polishing. So I help you polish? No, still not using AI to help you, refine that at all.
10:45:57 No, no, I did think about it yesterday. Yes. Any you know chat GPT or anything except You know, they offer it now when you're making a Facebook post.
10:46:15 They offer. You know, and it gives you prompts for like, you know, make this more.
10:46:19 Cheerful, make this more. And so that's the only dabbling I've done is in that very limited context.
10:46:26 Yeah. I don't dabble on Facebook.
10:46:33 That too much Like I haven't too much human interaction right now. But I did dinner last night with the Dean of the Evans school and, was asking about AI and how they're approaching.
10:46:46 AI and, the Dean was, she was. Just totally embracing it. Which is great.
10:46:54 And she's even a little older than us. She just feels like. You know, this will, yes, of course, change the workforce, but make even more valuable the things that humans.
10:47:06 No, only humans can do. So glad to hear they were. Wholeheartedly jumping in.
10:47:12 And wanting to be, you know, on the cutting edge of. Yeah. Public policy around AI.
10:47:24 Paying attention. Yeah, yeah, it's today. I took my son yesterday and he's also a school of public prepares.
10:47:32 And he's been very interested in using it for a long time, but I didn't ask him how that's.
10:47:36 You know, how much it's part of his program. Interesting. Yeah, someday we're gonna need a little presentation from you.
10:47:48 I can give them my slide right now if you want.
10:47:50 Yeah, well, you mean just, yeah, for you right now.
10:48:10 Let's see. I'm sure some of the lots of the stuff I've talked about before.
10:48:20 Okay. Okay.
10:48:55 Here.
10:49:35 I'll do it real fast. Alright. Yeah. Planning for AI in the public sector.
10:49:41 Okay, Hmm.
10:49:48 So you can see this roadmap. Created an AI. It's a kind of Illustrate some of the strengths and the weaknesses of AI because I made this cool looking roadmap in like 5Â s and
you also see that.
10:50:01 Rivers just turn into roads. So it's not really, roadmap, right? So, AI is all about kind of just this generative AI that we're talking about.
10:50:14 That we want to be, you know, general. Artificial intelligence soon is, Kind of predicts what comes next, whether it's an image or anything else.
10:50:24 So. On policy side. We've been, you know, we have the think take that's been looking through it and we really need to figure out how we're going to.
10:50:37 You know, what are the guardrails that we need? We obviously we have it in Facebook now.
10:50:41 We have it and it's gonna be in all the Microsoft products soon. This, I mean, I just created this in the free Canberra program and it created these AI images for me.
10:50:53 And there's been a lot more. I forgot my. In Canva, I believe I said, please, create a roadmap that could be used as a metaphor for.
10:51:10 For AI I can't remember exactly but I you know basically create me a roadmap So there's kinda 2 different regulatory paths.
10:51:17 United States does not have a universal policy though there's been some change as the White House has released an executive order as well as a framework guideline document,
but we have.
10:51:32 Piecemeal regulation throughout the states in Europe. There's a lot more regulation. They have a European artificial intelligence act in 2021 and they're identified what some
of the high risk.
10:51:43 Impacts might be, you know, like if it's dealing with transportation or automation of industry, then health care.
10:51:50 So they recognize in that regulation that they don't know what the problems are going to be. So, like the United States, where you in the first blueprint for an AI governance
by the Biden administration.
10:52:03 There's kind of 7 principles that come up for all of these. And they are the European one really Put in an ethics code.
10:52:12 That is very similar to these 7 principles that we can look at real quick. So this is the growth and, there's been a lot of the legislation basically the number of AI really
bills that were passed into law around the country in the world and you can see that there's a huge increase in the regulation that's coming as it as this grows.
10:52:35 But in the United States, it's a little more fragmented. So this is kind of a heat map of, legislation around the country.
10:52:41 Washington is, you know, like what we'd expect with California and Massachusetts. Maryland is one of the ones that has more.
10:52:49 Laws that have actually been passed, but many you can see most have 0, amount of regulation on AI.
10:52:57 So it really, I think the problems can happen and you know, someone argue that that the development of the industry would happen closer to with less regulation.
10:53:09 So that's I mean most AI. Developments have been happening in the United States, you know, we're still ahead and part of that is the lack of regulation.
10:53:16 So it's and then. It's just really challenging. You know, so in the United States.
10:53:24 9 the past US Congress and 80 were proposed in 2,022. So it's just it's hard for us as a federal.
10:53:34 Union to get our arms around this and so people are trying but it's not being very successful so far.
10:53:45 Cool. The US Congress. Yeah. And what kinds of things are passing?
10:53:52 And what are what are we able to get our hands around their head around? Yeah, around.
10:53:56 I don't have the answer. I can bring back. I'm not sure. Yeah, that's a good question.
10:54:05 I, I don't have any data that I could. Answer that one. So the blueprint, this is out of added the US and it kind of talks about these principles, right?
10:54:17 So it's safe and effective systems. You should be. Protected. Imagine these are being used by the county, you know, whether we're using it to write emails or help craft emails
or, you know, the kind of the far end is, you know, the Cambod, the customer assistance meeting bot, you know, like when can we start providing service and kind of take work off of
a staff member
10:54:40 shoulders, but it becomes really problematic. You know, there was a lawsuit against, Air Canada because they had a chat bot that was like a customer service chat bot and it
someone called and say, what's your bereavement policy?
10:54:52 Can I buy the ticket and then get reimbursed later? Cause I've gotta go to a funeral and Air Canada did have a policy, but the chat bot just created a new policy.
10:55:06 And said, oh yeah, totally, you can get reimbursed. And so, yeah, totally, you can get reimbursed.
10:55:13 And so, I'm not sure what level of courts in Canada, but they, reinforce that if your AI says something.
10:55:16 You're, you gotta live by it. Algorithmic discrimination protections that we've, you know, heard stories about like when Amazon was using.
10:55:26 Algorithms to, you know, do their job. You know, first filter of job candidates and they ended up, you know, filtering out the non-white males, you know, the institutional biases
can easily get magnified and replicated with once you turn it over to an algorithm and data privacy.
10:55:44 You know, protected from abuse of data practices. Oh yeah, there's 5, principles in the blueprint.
10:55:52 They've been expanded to 7. This is not totally up to date. Notice an explanation. So if someone is using an automated system, it should be disclosed and you know you should
give credit when you're generating things with AI.
10:56:05 And then people should always have a human alternative. So if you're not comfortable with, you know, your.
10:56:11 Building application being processed by, you know, the algorithm that we have in 5 years. Then you should be able to opt out and say, I'd like a human to review my plan or whatever.
10:56:25 So this was a quick, strength, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats. All these images were created actually in Dolly.
10:56:34 So that first one is Archimedes because you know. Hey, what's Dolly? Dolly is chat GPTs image generator.
10:56:43 So, you know, give me a lever long enough and a, and a, to put it on and I can lift the world.
10:56:49 It's AI is, you know, exponentially more powerful over success of generations and it really does challenge the paradigm.
10:56:57 You know, I think didn't, the scientific community reject that we're in a new.
10:57:01 E era recently, right? We're with the Anthropocene. We're not in that yet even though.
10:57:08 But, I think that we are in a new one now. I think we have just left the information era and we are into the artificial intelligence.
10:57:17 Yeah, okay. Pandora's box. That was the second image I asked to make a, Pandora's box.
10:57:27 That was the second image I asked to make a a, Pandora's box in Dolly.
10:57:27 And we just know it can be used. We're seeing it already deep fakes and, and it really does.
10:57:33 You know, every time there's disruptive technology, what is that? Yeah, we're still reeling from the impacts to our social fabric from, you know.
10:57:42 Phones in the internet. So what is this gonna do? It is gonna change the way that we interact.
10:57:51 About schools and education. One of the peer reviewed studies that I reviewed. About AI talked about the declining quality of the model as more and more AI is.
10:58:02 Writing newspaper articles or writing this and that it won't the model will be based on a predictive AI and there won't be you know it'll get worse and worse as it you know
just apes itself like a photocopy of a photo copy of a photo copy and tell it won't be you know, since the quality of discourse could really decline.
10:58:22 Opportunities. That 3, 2Â h work weeks up there. I can't remember what I prompted that one what?
10:58:31 Why is that an opportunity under AI? County that you know went to a 32Â h work week but yeah I mean it's It's white call. This is the first kind of disruption to white collar.
Job.
10:58:50 So, you know, we've heard about the lawyer that didn't, check his, work and, you know, the I just made up precedent out of whole cloth, which it will do not very truthy, but
it also means that, you know, if everyone has a doctor and a lawyer in their in their pocket, that really could be an equity.
10:59:06 Opportunity, you know, if everyone has the access to a real good medical opinion right away, that's something that's pretty significant and all the way too, you know, I need
a contract for this real estate transaction I wanna go into.
10:59:20 And then a lower one I asked Dolly to make me a paperclip factory because, you've heard that, Sources apprentice metaphor.
10:59:30 If you have AI, you know, I just need this machine that will you know, create paper clips as efficiently as possible and then soon humanity is in the way of creation.
10:59:40 Of the paper clip. So you got to destroy humanity so you can more efficiently create paper clips.
10:59:44 So it's the you know, Mickey Mouse and the Sorcerer's apprentice, that's their real.
10:59:48 And of course, as we talked about, implicit bias perpetuates through the system. As business information.
10:59:56 Yeah, you know, I think. It will. I mean, it can, you know, that engineers stamp maybe, I mean, just like.
11:00:07 Thank you. You still have to have a human kind of go through all the work and say, yeah, that.
11:00:11 That's still pencils, right? So I think it's going to reduce the number of lawyer time or architect time.
11:00:18 But it makes the time that you have more critical.
11:00:24 Ai policy by AI. Oh, this is, you know. We don't have to go through this because we've already kind of moved on Seattle's AI policy, which got updated.
11:00:32 We're more interested in, but as we're going with the, our little thank tank guy.
11:00:36 I created with chat GPT, a social media policy. It's not really readable.
11:00:43 I will be bringing something back. So I, I don't know if we need to.
11:00:47 I that readable. I did in subsequent, and these are the reference. And then this one, I can't remember what the prompt was, but Dolly may be that one too.
11:00:59 The same to come. Where's the role for AI and, and government, I think was what I prompted.
11:01:07 Alright, that's it. A lot of artwork. Cool. Thank you.
11:01:22 Anything else? Okay, I wonder if I has a new. Care for stage 4 pancreatic cancer.
11:01:32 No, not yet, but I might be if once we have our little machines that are always monitoring us, maybe it's like, Hey, you have stage one, pancreatic tech, cancer.
11:01:40 And that would be pretty helpful. Yeah. Totally. Okay.
11:01:46 I digress. Alright, we will recess until 1 31 30 will be going right into executive session so we will be coming really into That can open session until 3.
11:01:58 Sounds good.
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